gtfo-related-questions

[mental furnace]

Happy to help

In overload, the first two sequences are not error alarms, but the third one is. The first two often feel like error alarms because a huge spawn queue builds up during the sequence, but they will stop spawning once the queue clears. You can shorten the queue dramatically if you don't input the secondary command until you're en route to extraction after overload.

[craggy pier]

@native sun bro

we were playing on hard mode

[sturdy glen]

if you do secondary it adds shadows to the between part, but even thats not infinite

you were playing on fun mode

[past mesa]

This is for the overload

Btw

[kindred locust]

Wait this is in the big white room with lots of terminals right?

[mental furnace]

A bit earlier in the level, when you enter the command to request access to the server farm, you can choose to unlock server farm [1] or [2]. [1] is Main, and [2] is Overload. I've never actually gone in Main, so I can't say for sure what's in there. Presumably it's similar to Overload but easier. I would say "big white room with lots of terminals" is an accurate description of the central terminal room in Overload.

[kindred locust]

okay thanks

[ocean spindle]

main its a ||corrupted onlink in the same tile, but with less enemies and with the side rooms being only spawn ones, not actually having any enemies but resources||

[mental furnace]

Nifty

[hazy wedge]

Main error begins after completing 1/2 uplinks btw

Main is so stupidly easier than Overload it’s a joke

[mental furnace]

Oh wait hang on, were you guys doing an uplink? (where you start with UPLINK_CONNECT 123.456.789.012)

[kindred locust]

yes

[mental furnace]

Oh

Uh this is awkward

Everything I told you up to this point, was for Overload. But if you were doing an uplink, then you were doing Main instead, which is apparently quite a bit easier.

So if you end up running R7D1 or R8C1 Overload (server farm 2), then my advice is still valid. Otherwise, forget it.

[kindred locust]

yk imma just convince my firends to do overload

[mental furnace]

Awesome. Full disclosure: Overload is a pretty big difficulty spike. Of course, if it doesn't work out, you can always retry from checkpoint. You might find this video from Professor Scaler helpful: https://youtu.be/PtOFa5LWDdA

[rotund remnant]

Hey everybody is there a way to fix the reloading issue in GTFO sometimes when me and my friends try to reload we usually have to switch something else to make the gun reload

[native sun]

@rotund remnant Your guns should definitely reload when you reload them.

Are you:

• Having guns reload one too few bullets? (This is a fairly common bug, especially on certain weapons)
• Switching too soon and cancelling your reload (you have to wait for the ammo count to update on the HUD before you can swap away)

If you're not doing either of those and your guns aren't reloading when you reload them, then something is very strange

[rotund remnant]

@native sun oh no what happens is me one of my friends will be shooting and we'll try to reload and even though I'm pressing the button I have mapped to reload it won't do it until I switch to another weapon or tool then switch back

For example I use the Hel auto pistol and I have 30 bullets left in my gun but then I want to reload it halfway to be ready for a wave but for some reason it won't let me sometimes

[craggy pier]

[native sun]

That's very weird. Might be worth checking the key you have bound to reload and making sure it works properly, or change what key it is bound to and see if you still get the issue.

Perhaps you're on a keyboard that doesn't support many simultaneous inputs? Does it occur if you have nothing else pressed? Always happens when you have a few movement keys pressed?

I've heard of some keyboards that advertise n-key rollover (as many simultaneous inputs as you want), but that will fail on very specific combinations

[iron rampart]

how do i ask to join someone else that knows how to play?

[rotund remnant]

@native sun well that's the thing three out of four of us use controllers and I turn Steam input off so that way things would be complicated because when I had it on it would somehow stop the functions of one of my buttons on my controller and it would happen randomly like one minute I'll be able to use items then I couldn't anymore but I do you use the keyboard when I have to interact with a terminal

[whole stirrup]

Are you always supposed to get an apparel item on first main mission completion? I just finished one and didnt get one

[craggy pier]

i forgor how it works its changed over the rundown releases

[native sun]

I'd still say try rebinding it and see if it still happens, if not, I've never played the game with controller so my experience runs thin, but good luck with it!

[gritty hinge]

Hey. A straight question; Is this community large enough- and more importantly, does anyone still play earlier rundowns? (R1, R2..)
I'm a guy who used to play back when it was brand new, left, and though I find the bots charming- they can't get me past R1C2 and quite frankly I'm tired of wasting my time with bots. I'd like some real, fun-enjoying players, y'know?

[frail heart]

Yeah I mean just putting out lfg's usually there are people who will play

Also just depends on the time of day if theres a lot of people on

[floral acorn]

there's modded bots that make it a lot better (imho) .. #hc-modded discuss it there if u want (unofficial modding server)

[old girder]

wait damn modded bots?

how are the different?

[craggy pier]

they're not mentally challenged

[old girder]

LMFAOOOO

[craggy pier]

also yeah people will play old stuff

if u try find a game at peak times

houldnt take all that long

theres always beginners trying to do earlier stuff as well

[old girder]

oh question

is loot 100% totally rng?

[craggy pier]

no

[digital wave]

that is not better, the bot friendly-fire is way worse

[old girder]

cuase i just had a room with 6 boxes while my entire team had 0 everything

[craggy pier]

each zone has x amount of resources just the positions are randomized

[old girder]

and

no ammo or health or tool

just straigh glowsticks

[craggy pier]

as for the like flashlights and lockmelters i think those are random

[digital wave]

they shot your head faster (yes your head, not enemy’s)

[craggy pier]

ammo/medi/tool has a fixed amount per zone but locations are random

[old girder]

ohhhhhhh

okok

[digital wave]

its in the box though, consistently

[craggy pier]

yes they are always in boxes/lockers

[old girder]

based discord profile image btw hekitty

[digital wave]

despite the anime profile image, I trust him and his words

[floral acorn]

betterbots and hitthelights == way better bots and no bot-ff

[digital wave]

are R6 C levels hard like R5 or R4 ? which rundown C levels' difficulty is similar ?

[craggy pier]

if u mean like r4/5 c levels no they're way way easier

r4 and especially 5 levels are generally significantly harder than r6

[gritty hinge]

Gotcha.. may give it a try.

[gritty hinge]

Duly noted. I tried doing a ||warden door|| or whatever it's called.. the end of R1C2, and I just got clowned on even with setup.

[halcyon current]

Short answer yes, long answer, I've finished rundown 1-3 and am halfway through 4 on LFGs

[gritty hinge]

I wish the game's inbuilt LFG was worth something. From what I can tell, it'll just throw you into any match, of any level, of any rundown? There's no "Hey, I want to play THIS LEVEL specifically..

[halcyon current]

Never used it tbh, was told to avoid it

Heard it sends people to R8 a lot tho

[floral acorn]

ran same myself and 3 helrev + helgun bots didnt let anyone close to me 🙂

[gritty hinge]

Yeah. I feel like that's a serious point 10Chambers could work on. Something you can actually tell what missions you want to play. I quit playing when Rundown 5 released, way back when- so I'm way out of my league.

[digital wave]

imagine sending you into the room of two nightmare scouts

[gritty hinge]

I don't even know what a nightmare scout is lmao

Scariest thing I ever saw was ||Invisible giants.|| That was a fun time.

[topaz anvil]

You just need to keep going deeper

[craggy pier]

just wait till you find ||invisible giant charger tanks||

[floral acorn]

||invisible giant flyer charger tank scout|| is muy scary

[craggy pier]

so true

[digital wave]

or till you find a buggy terminal

[gritty hinge]

[native sun]

I don't believe they'll change it for GTFO, it's a bit late for the game, but they have said they've learnt a lot from the failures of the match making system for their next game.

[digital wave]

Just show all the lobbies like other games

[floral acorn]

personally i fear the day a server browser materializes and i forget a slot open for players.. scanning a beeg team scan and suddenly team members required [a,b,c,-] tick tick tick .. tick tick tick .. .. and that casual server-surfer says "hello?", stays in weapon selection for 4 minutes but doesn't drop. disconnects as he decides he wants another level after all. wiped run, gg.

[topaz anvil]

You could simply include an additional button which prevents joining mid game

[floral acorn]

i remember surprise-joining my bruh's solo game in ogr5 and "we" wiped on the alarm 🙂

[old girder]

Question: what does the yellow alt text by rundowns mean?

[topaz anvil]

Gameplay-wise: it's just a re-release of the original rundowns by the same name with some minor changes

Lorewise: it's the complex in an alternate timeline

[old girder]

LMAO so they went with the alternate timeline method to fix plot-holes

[topaz anvil]

No

[old girder]

(Don't answer that I don't know lore yet)

Don't want spoilers lol

[topaz anvil]

😔

Jokes on you there's no spoilers anyway!

[old girder]

where's the best way to learn the lore tho

Like

Playing or is there a vid I gotta watch

[topaz anvil]

Imo it's more fun to find the lore in game and then piece it together yourself but if you are lazy there's a whole document in the lore channel pinned messages

[old girder]

Ohhh aight, do you gotta go outta your way in game to learn it or is it just kinda blatant as you play?

[topaz anvil]

You'll find lore logs on the terminals you access to query resources and objectives

[old girder]

Right the logs, read one once then forgot to do the rest

[sudden scroll]

some logs you do need to go to zones you otherwise woudn't go to

[topaz anvil]

Lol

There's only 188 to find :P

[sudden scroll]

but i believe the later rundowns have more "lore" in them just in the missions themselves?

I'm only on R2 so i wouldn't actually know

[old girder]

Been going through the game in chronological order of rundown

Well

[jagged shore]

like zone, fuckin, 77 or something in r5d1

maybe 73? idk, just that one fuckin zone lol

[sudden scroll]

I recall reading that yellow tagged missions are "story" missions or something

[topaz anvil]

There's no player relevant story in r1-r5 now. But world building logs are found everywhere in every rundown

[old girder]

Ohhh

Damn lmao sounds like all the cool stuff is in r6+, but it'd kill me if I didn't finish r1-r5 in order

[topaz anvil]

Unfortunately because you joined late, you've missed some of the context that'll become relevant in r8 but it's not a huge deal for now you can just ask later

[old girder]

👍👍

[sudden scroll]

yea.. R1 is baby rundown. R2 is already kicking my team's butt

[jagged shore]

don't latch too hard onto the idea of doing them strictly in order
a lot of people get hard stuck on some levels and then just quit cause they don't wanna keep trying it

[topaz anvil]

R3 will be some respite for you

[halcyon current]

R2 is easily twice what R3 is

[sudden scroll]

that's good news but ugh.. my team only has energy for like 1-2 D tier attempts a week , so it's gonna be a longg time

[old girder]

A WEEK?

[topaz anvil]

People live busy lives

[halcyon current]

^

[old girder]

RIPPP, we should play sometime

[halcyon current]

Plus if you have a static, conflicting schedules happen

[old girder]

That's true, is your team a team of 4?

Cause I mainly just duo and then have 2 bots

[jagged shore]

ngl, finding a static of people who are good at the game and actually interested in, and capable of, doing everything, has made this game an absolute blast to play through for me

[old girder]

^^^

[topaz anvil]

My team of people are so good we argue constantly and still somehow win

[old girder]

I just got one of my friends, actively looking for someone else around the same skill level to the game

[topaz anvil]

And it's funny

[jagged shore]

i was in like, one group, it kinda took a break, then got another group and played some duo mods with one after the other two kinda burned out, then the guy from the first got interested again, we found another, and we just went in on r4 and have been making our way through since
and god damn it's just so fuckin good feeling

[sturdy glen]

imagine not shitposting the entire time you play

[old girder]

LMAO

We be sweating

[topaz anvil]

Shitposting is fun but griefing each other is more fun

[old girder]

Especially that feeling after seeing that complete screen after 3+ attempts

[jagged shore]

yeah, idk if i've gotten as big a dopamine hit than when we got through r4e1sec lmao

[old girder]

My knife pull our keybind is the same keybind as my shove for some reason, the amount of times I've shoved a giant in a room with a scout is crazy

[frail heart]

the actual dream holy i wish

[ocean spindle]

C its a melee shove that, well pulls out ur melee
if u shove a big guy nothing happens, they dont care, a person in a team once shoved a big guy to troll me

just to like 'AH I HIT IT' and i, shat my pants

[old girder]

A guy in my static will do everything but kill a sleeper normally, this guy is out here doing 360 jumps from ledges while charging hammer trying to hit a headshot

[ocean spindle]

so real

[hazy wedge]

Cod player detected

[old girder]

LMAOO

[past mesa]

Who ever this is you must join him. He is having fun

[arctic marten]

NO! NO FUN ALLOWED

[old girder]

^^^^

[arctic marten]

DONT FORGET TO SPEND 6 HOURS STEALTHING 1 ZONE FULL OF REGULAR SLEEPERS

[dry pumice]

Based

[past mesa]

My bad dad will get right back to it

[arctic marten]

hi artek when is e2

[old girder]

You think dauda, hackett, bishop are having fun?

[dry pumice]

Ill get back at you, but probably Weekends. I need to finish DOTA Shard grind for that set...

[arctic marten]

ill clear my entire schedule

this is an important moment in history

[arctic marten]

only dauda is having fun

[old girder]

Good point

[noble wind]

what set u grinding for

[dry pumice]

Sven's

I'm a big Sven fan, gotta get all his drip

[noble wind]

gotta have the shield and sword immortals they are sick

the helmet is kinda meh

[dry pumice]

I have helmet and shield, created a very cool looking set with them.

The sword is fucking impossible man, it costs like 3 AAA games

You can buy x6 GTFOs with that

Ironically Sven doesn't have many good looking swords, for being The Sword Guy

Two thirds of them got them 2012 textures and the rest are a bit too much

[noble wind]

there was an exclusive one had a super cool helmet not sure if u still can get it

[vale kraken]

what does LFG mean or LF1 mean?

[hazy wedge]

Looking for Group/Looking for 1 (one player)

[vale kraken]

oh alr

[grand prawn]

does anybody know why strikers will attack me way beyond there reach? this only seems to happen when im not host as well

[hazy wedge]

Are you walking back when the striker is infront of you

Walk 3-5m left or right to avoid its attack. Its attack doesn't have a large turning radius

[grand prawn]

no i run very far away then some random striker thats not even facing me hits me

[grand prawn]

ik how to do that

im out of it's range

yet it still hits me

[slow stone]

Strikers have a long range forwards but a short range sideways s osimple strafing works

tho sometimes they are funky like that

[hazy wedge]

Was this striker close to you

[grand prawn]

they extend there tounge way further than it's suupposed to

[hazy wedge]

I cannot explain the striker hitting you when it is not facing you if you are far away from it. But if you were close, they can still hit you even when they're looking a different direction. If so, you can try to stagger with a weapon or melee shove

[halcyon current]

I believe what this man is experiencing is phantom range

Due to latency

I've had it happen as client too

Its easier to dodge stuff as host

[hidden ridge]

I dont want to link tru's comment about how striker tongues work for the 3rd time or whatever

But it's a keyhole shape with LoS checks and stuff like that

[grand prawn]

this sounds about right

[hidden ridge]

Of course if you're client the distance you actually see is not where the host sees you, assuming same point in time

Therefore you get hit anyway

[halcyon current]

Nah, ik exactly what he means, he means about a foot or so where the animation ends you still get hit as client

[grand prawn]

i was a bit further then where the animation ends

still hit

:/

[halcyon current]

Mhm, it's literally just a latency thing to my knowledge, it's a lot harder to dodge melee as client

[noble wind]

Desnyc

[grand prawn]

great

[noble wind]

Sniper melee

[hidden ridge]

I mean, yes but

[halcyon current]

It's even worse with big boys

[hidden ridge]

Desync imho would be extreme stuff

[noble wind]

Enemy is a lot closer to you than it appears on your screen

[hidden ridge]

client being client I wouldn't really call it desync

whatever clients see is actually slightly in the past compared to host

the worse the conn between the two is, the bigger the delay

to some cases it gets unplayable

[grand prawn]

cool

[hidden ridge]

this is expecially noticeable in reactors sometimes

[halcyon current]

Whatever it is it's just the game being the game

[hidden ridge]

As a rule of thumb if you press E to open a normal door and it opens kinda ASAP it's "fine"

Otherwise there's a mod that says latencies

Not really sure how accurate that is but it's there

[lone mortar]

you up for drops jake?

[halcyon current]

I'm still drinking coffee number 1, but if you give me five minutes sure

Fwiw I'm still just going through R4

[lone mortar]

alr

ping me when u ready

[halcyon current]

Gotcha

[halcyon current]

making a lobby now

[lone mortar]

In bed cuz 4:16am

Tell me when u lfg

[halcyon current]

i was in lfg for like 20 minutes, i just closed it

[lone mortar]

Oh

So its full?

[halcyon current]

no

as in i got tired of waiting for people, and closed gtfo

[lone mortar]

Aight

Ill be on pc in 10

[wild marten]

Hey quick question about all HEL guns. After they pierce, do they loose damage, or deal full dmg to every enemy?

[noble wind]

full dmg

[wild marten]

Damn, so youre saying i can kill 6 chargers with 1 hel rifle shot?

[noble wind]

make sure you arent hitting 2 body parts of the same enemy

[wild marten]

thats a thing? Ok thanks

[noble wind]

believe its 5 but i dont remember why

[wild marten]

potatoe potatoe

[ocean spindle]

its 6

[ocean spindle]

:D

so many blood

[noble wind]

5

[wild marten]

:D

[ocean spindle]

idk the wiki says 6

hel gun 4

[noble wind]

wiki sucks

[ocean spindle]

D:

well 5 6 doesnt matter most of the time u get 2 3 lineups

[ocean spindle]

:]

[noble wind]

no it does matter you suck

[ocean spindle]

:[

[wild marten]

:(

[civic wave]

you are ignoring bugged pen/bad raycast value eating pen value

so you will likely never get 6

[ocean spindle]

but well still very cool

[arctic marten]

yea its basically impossible unless you only hit limbs

[tardy ingot]

Why is it potatoes everywhere

[slow stone]

🥔

[ocean spindle]

:D

[tardy ingot]

im gonna riot

[arctic marten]

go evil mode

[noble wind]

Taters are cuul tho

[tardy ingot]

i love potatoes

but im getting bullied

everywhere i go

i see

🥔

[topaz anvil]

Potatoes are like a C tier vegetable

That's why you get bullied

[tardy ingot]

potatoes are so freaking versatile

plus they are a perfect base line food

like rice, pasta and bread

[topaz anvil]

And every way you can make them taste mid

[tardy ingot]

gotta actually prepare them well and use the right spices

[arctic marten]

L + potatoes are epic + hard stuck on r4c3

[tardy ingot]

bad potatoes are dreadfully boring

[topaz anvil]

Peas are easily S tier

[tardy ingot]

like imagine dry badly cooked pasta

[tardy ingot]

Ok you are coping

[topaz anvil]

Wrong

[tardy ingot]

theres 1 clear S tier

that nobody can dispute

garlic

[arctic marten]

go eat a clove then

if its so good

[tardy ingot]

i also dont just munch on a onion like a degenerate

but onions are omni present in food

[arctic marten]

i eat onions like apples

[tardy ingot]

whats your top 3 cooked vegetables

like removing onions/garlic due to it

mines prob brussel sprouts, zucchini and potatoes

[arctic marten]

i mean potatoes gotta be up there

maybe corn as well

[tardy ingot]

i love corn

but i feel like its not that versatile

[arctic marten]

bro you said brussel sprouts

[tardy ingot]

also man, i realize how i hate the english names for what you can do with potatoes

German names slap so much harder

[arctic marten]

theres like 2 ways to cook them

[tardy ingot]

Fair

im nostalgic to them tho

[arctic marten]

im so sorry

[tardy ingot]

pan fry, steam, cook

[arctic marten]

both pan fry and steam are methods of cooking

do you mean bake or roast

[tardy ingot]

i dont know the translation for the third

[noble wind]

Made into anything you name it its been done before

[arctic marten]

fair tbh

just put it in german

[tardy ingot]

its rly just „kochen“

which translates to cooking generally

[arctic marten]

ok you need a more specific language

[tardy ingot]

its uh idk kinda stupid lol

WE ARE SUPER SPECIFIC

for the wrong things sometimes

like theres multiple hundred types of breads

and again

German names for potato dishes > english ones

[arctic marten]

if baked potato is called kochen potato im gonna riot

[tardy ingot]

its kinda like „oven potato“

cuz you put it in the oven

[arctic marten]

yea you really proved that ther german name is better

[tepid sand]

Baked potato:

[arctic marten]

and by better i mean exactly the same

[noble wind]

You still Can bake outside an oven

[tardy ingot]

Kartoffelpuffer

Bratkartoffeln

[arctic marten]

puffed potato

barf potato

weird dishes tbh

[tardy ingot]

Baaarf?

what

is that

[arctic marten]

vomit

puke

throw up

take your pick

[topaz anvil]

Leek, peas and courgette

[arctic marten]

thats a car, you cant eat that

[topaz anvil]

Whur

[arctic marten]

corvette

not edible

[tepid sand]

Are potatoes considered vegetables?

I thought they classified as their own “starch” category

[arctic marten]

NO

thats a food group 🤓

what kind of vegtable is spaghetti

[tepid sand]

Spaghetti…?

Vegetable…?

[native sun]

@grand prawn This sounds just like regular ping issues. Note that enemy attack checks are performed by the host, and host gets updates of your position slightly late. You also see where the Striker is according to updates from the host, which means the position you have for the Striker is slightly late. The two effects compound.

See #gtfo-media message

The Striker basically has double your ping worth of advantage. So if you have a ping of 200ms, it'll use your position from 400ms ago. You can move very far in 400ms.

[civic wave]

in the english language, we call these "staple foods"

[tardy ingot]

[halcyon current]

Starchy root vegetable

[arctic marten]

yea what kind

[tepid sand]

I mean… it’s a stretch but spaghetti is made from flour and flour is made from wheat

[arctic marten]

so its like a fruit?

[tepid sand]

It can’t be… wheat isn’t a fruit

Wheat is a carbohydrate

[mental furnace]

I think wheat is a fruit isn't it?

Botanically, the wheat kernel is a caryopsis, a type of fruit.

New fruit salad just dropped

[digital wave]

bruh is it possible to finish R3C1 with 3 bots, the last error alarm door needs 2 guys outside, 2 guys inside to kill the scout and giants effectively right

[arctic marten]

everything is a carbohydrate

[digital wave]

I end up waking up the scout everytime when the error alarm charger come, and wake up whole room full of giants

[ocean spindle]

usually its, mining the doors puttin sentries everything
hopefully getting zone [think its] 20 cause its easier, the one without doors
sniping the scout asap, dealing with the consequences, healing the bots that mightve get hurt
and then finding the HSU asap

[tepid sand]

Damn plant and genetics bio really not doing me any justice rn

[spare heath]

has anyone tried class6 scan after reactor in R8E2 duo??? shit is impossible

[hazy wedge]

You can prepare yourself with resources in the zone before kds deep. There will be another terminal for time as well

[spare heath]

had 10 uses of ammo pack in total but damn... the last two scans are so brutal

[mental furnace]

No, I didn't say anything stupid because I didn't read, what are you talking about

[mossy aurora]

Why would you reply with things that they would already know

You think if they are getting to that class 6 scan as a duo they wouldn't know about that zone?

[hazy wedge]

Just making sure 🙃 those class 6’s might as well be class 9 for how long it takes to complete it.

[mossy aurora]

There's a reason why people who have duo'ed it have opted to skip that alarm with the teleport

[devout gyro]

can nearby sleepers get woken up by a successful melee kill?

[arctic marten]

yes

[devout gyro]

so when they're clustered super close, maybe it's just best to avoid them i guess...

[arctic marten]

you can have multiple people hit them at once, or just kill the other ones while they are waking up

you have a decent amount of time before they fully wake up and scream

[devout gyro]

is there some way to judge whether or not they're in hearing range of a stealth kill

[ocean spindle]

also enemies while glowin can detect from medium far distances, 3 2 meters, so make sure if u got like a lil ball that everyones not glowin while u hit one

[ocean spindle]

when they are about, idk half a meter from eachother, they have to be pretty close

and yeah u can always try to kill the one u woke up

it just comes to practice

[devout gyro]

i didn't realize there was a delay between wake-up and notifying others

i assumed it just triggered combat with the whole room immediately

[arctic marten]

no, sleepers must scream in order to wake the room

they cannot attack while doing so, and if you keep shoving them they can never scream

[devout gyro]

is there a difference between the ones with the spiky heads and the ones with the teeth heads?

[ocean spindle]

no, they both have the same aggro distances n stuff

[devout gyro]

same damage and all?

[arctic marten]

do you mean strikers and shooters?
the one with the tongue and the one that shoots balls of light?

[devout gyro]

i figured they all shoot shit

its dark idk

[arctic marten]

lol

[devout gyro]

one more thing

i noticed the giants dont actually die when you behead them

is there even a point to beheading them

[arctic marten]

most enemies can live without their heads, but all enemies take more damage on their heads

[devout gyro]

i see, ty

[arctic marten]

so hit them in the head for more damage

but it wont last forever

[ocean spindle]

ah on stuff shooters are a bit weaker on the head but have more hp, so bodyshots with melees usually dont work unless its the hammer from the back
shooters do 5 dmg with their projectiles, tongue bois 12

and uh shooters tend to be more, in the backline of enemies, but if u run at em and strafe as u see their projectiles they are not hard to kill while aggroed

[devout gyro]

👍

[inland tree]

is there a way to get into zone 46 in r8a2?

[ocean spindle]

wheres the door to 46?

[inland tree]

in the room where you drain the cooling fluid

room is labeled as "cooling tanks"

[ocean spindle]

ohh, i dont believe there is

or at least i havent found a way in yet

[topaz anvil]

There is.... ||R8D2 ||

[topaz anvil]

Here you go

[inland tree]

i see... thank you

[topaz anvil]

Yes

It'll all make sense in time

[scenic tangle]

having a bug with r8c1 where we have a constant wave in the terminal uplink do we just have to wait for the wave process to finish before entering the last code?

[topaz anvil]

constant as in enemies keep spawning incredibly rapidly or just normal waves that keep going

[scenic tangle]

waves that just keep going

[topaz anvil]

Did you do secondary

[scenic tangle]

even after the uplink completed

no

[topaz anvil]

oh, it's an error extract

you need to dip

[scenic tangle]

in between uplinks

[topaz anvil]

(Hasn't done main before)

I imagine they are just meant to keep going

[floral acorn]

at least for our main run the error began on first uplink start and persistent to the end

[scenic tangle]

i dont think so the first time we did it we went super slow and got a break in between ||i think it has something to do with the spawning of the snatcher||

[floral acorn]

dunno if it was bug or intentional, we did do secondary first on that run

[topaz anvil]

Truly, a great mystery

[scenic tangle]

the waves stop if you finish the uplink after the ||snatcher spawned and is killed||

allowing for resupply in between waves

[digital wave]

does exclusive fullscreen have better fps than fullscreen window ?

[floral acorn]

at least for me it does

[topaz anvil]

How do you say your name

[floral acorn]

google "translate hirnukuono to finnish", click on the 🔈

[topaz anvil]

[frail heart]

Yes there will be a few waves that spawn after you do each uplink but they will stop eventually

But on the last one there is a extraction error that starts

But after you finish the first two you just finish off the waves and they will stop

Even though it feels like they keep going its like 3-5 waves

Thats the mistake I made a lot when it was fresh is I thought you had to keep going cause the waves wouldn't stop

But they do

[tardy ingot]

there is only 2 uplinks ?

i think you are talking about the overload init objective @frail heart

[frail heart]

oh

i thought they were talking about overload lmao

mb

disregard everything

ive never actually done all of main before

[noble wind]

Main is dual uplinks
Ovl is where the fun at

[frail heart]

fr

overload goated

[tardy ingot]

@grand elm @frail heart
Every enemy in the game that can be killed can be solod

Issue is when other factors come together.

Potentially a lot of levels are soloable if you perfectly long kite on end.

Issue comes with super long S-scans since you cant long kite away from them.

So you need to either spawn cap smth that wont kill you (shooter bug + shooters) or spawn cap doorbug. (Or with mom birth even)

Generally long kiting is done a lot in later solos

[frail heart]

yessir

solo is goated

[thorn dawn]

guys

if you think you are pretty good at the game can you please give me some advices on how to not get overwhelmed by a horde of monsters?

i really wanna manage soloing any level but it just seems like i am missing something about not getting raped by like 10 strikers around me during an alarm

[edgy pasture]

USE CLIFF

[floral acorn]

bring bots 🙂

[edgy pasture]

HE SAID SOLOING

[thorn dawn]

thats what i have been doing for the past which enabled me to beat a bunch of levels but i wanna level up on my skill

[hidden ridge]

try kiting a striker around for as long as you can if you want to learn how to kite

regarding killing well, dont miss 😄

[floral acorn]

using furniture to jump on / over and doors u open + close (pathing) could be helpful maybe ..

[thorn dawn]

imma try and repeat that

so basiaclly i take the advantage of objects?

[edgy pasture]

YES CLIFF

[thorn dawn]

ok

is it about them falling on a place or climbing up to me?

[edgy pasture]

I'm not talking about stairs, but using the height of the wall itself.

[thorn dawn]

i see

[edgy pasture]

They will try to attack when there is no object within a certain arc range before they attack you.

Simply put, if you use height, they will perceive the cliff as an obstacle.

[thorn dawn]

ah

[edgy pasture]

SO USE CLIFF

[thorn dawn]

OK

[mossy aurora]

It might be helpful to watch some other players and how they handle alarms

Other than just shooting, you can see how they manage positioning and deciding when to leave the scan to clear enemies, things like that

[thorn dawn]

i watch a lot of videos of somebody "blablablaftw2". He is a player who can solo pretty much any level.

[mossy aurora]

You don't need to watch the really difficult ones that might require kiting, just watching simple ones like a and b levels can help a lot

[thorn dawn]

i try to learn and implement his tactics on my gameplay

oh ok

[mossy aurora]

Tom is good solo player too

[thorn dawn]

im checking his videos out rn

[civic mist]

you should play with ryk and watch his every move as you follow him around!

[thorn dawn]

Is RyK down rn

[civic mist]

idk bout rn but he loves to pub

[thorn dawn]

it would be awesome to watch and learn in real game

[mossy aurora]

No....

[upper ginkgo]

gtfo tutor

[mossy aurora]

You can watch 황올 when he streams, he's also good

[civic mist]

Yes!

[quick eagle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I8zpdZNvoI not sure if it might help

[lunar rain]

So is r8b4 error broken?

[arctic marten]

i dont believe so

[craggy pier]

nothing in gtfo is broken

everything works perfectly

:3c

[arctic marten]

battle revive is intentional

[keen seal]

#gtfo-media message surely

first time seeing a tank stuck

[craggy pier]

help me step-tank

[slow stone]

@digital mural

[craggy pier]

from being directly behind an enemy, how many degrees of error do you have for max back damage?

[craggy pier]

back damage is based off orientation

if ur more to the side you'll do less back damage

[slow stone]

thats because youre not hitting the back

[craggy pier]

max damage is more lenient than just directly behind

[slow stone]

multipliers are dependant where you are looking at

[craggy pier]

ok so u understand my question then

[slow stone]

so even if you hit the back but youre looking towards behind enemy, you dont get back multi

[craggy pier]

i understand how it works

thats not my question

[slow stone]

at least I simply dont understand the question

[craggy pier]

ok

example

i stand behind cscout and shoot it with hc it will die

how far can I orient myself to the side before it will no longer 1shot it

does that make sense

[slow stone]

oh thats what you mean

[craggy pier]

yes :3

[civic wave]

there's an article on the wiki with an equation to work it out

[craggy pier]

any idea which page

found it

[civic wave]

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Back_Multiplier
0-41.4 degrees for perfect back damage

[craggy pier]

ty anyway

thats actually way more lenient than i was expecting

[slow stone]

Huh I though it was either you do multi dmg or not, interesting

[craggy pier]

nope

[civic wave]

nah it's not 0 or 100

[slow stone]

didnt know it depended on angle alr

[craggy pier]

I literally only wanted to know this for hitting cscout breakpoint

[civic wave]

the fact that it's 41.4 degrees of forgiveness lets me know that I suck at hitting shooters in the occiput

[hidden ridge]

no?

multiplier is dependant on your position at the time you strike and the enemy's orientation/position AFAIK

Otherwise it's hard to justify the flexkill or whatever you want to call it against chargers

Where they sleep, you get to his back, lookup, turn 180 degrees and bonk

archit scan of hammer still hits him even if you're not looking at him and you still get damage bonus from back because you're behind him

Yeah also what pachi said

There's an image somewhere with angles and numbers

[past mesa]

But he is right

The multiplier depends where you are looking

At least partially

[hidden ridge]

Does it? I think it just counts the position and if you hit the target?

[past mesa]

Yes but to hit the target you need to look at it

And you have the ability to slightly change back damage

[sturdy glen]

Hitscan user

L

[hidden ridge]

Well

When I do that shit I certanly ain't looking at the target 😄

I get that it's an extreme case scenario

[past mesa]

Gun not melee

[sturdy glen]

Ew

[grand prawn]

anybody have an explanation to the enemies walking through a solid door during an alarm

[hidden ridge]

heavy desync?

I had something similar happen back when checkpoints were introduced in og r6c3

[grand prawn]

i still have no idea how desync works

[light kestrel]

Your connection to host has high latency.

[hidden ridge]

You start missing packets if things go south and then you get weird stuff

Like when people see enemies 100% stuck, not moving and alive instead of dead during reactors

Or getting orange hitmarks on Scouts but they dont get killed

[sturdy glen]

It can also be from a lack of syncing being done when it should be

Not always connection related

It's like the word implies, your client is not synced with the host/master

[civic wave]

desync is funny and just happens sometimes (never play on evas host)

[halcyon current]

Why does gtfo lag for me the first 2 minutes of a match, as host, and then is totally fine for basically the entire rest of the run?

[civic wave]

what kind of lag?

[halcyon current]

Like, my PC itself kinda freezes up, and the people connecting to me can feel it as well

It's stutters maybe 3 or 4 times as soon as we hit the ground over the course of maybe 3 minutes

They feel some lag

And then everything is fine

[civic wave]

sounds like it's more on the side of performance/pc specs than connection

[halcyon current]

2080ti, 9700k, 32gbs of ram

Don't ask me anything else

Bc I don't know lmao

[civic wave]

pretty beefy rig, do you have the game on a hard drive or ssd?

[halcyon current]

M.2 ssd

[hazy wedge]

What’s game optimization

[halcyon current]

One of the Intel 660ps

[civic wave]

I dunno ¯_(ツ)_/¯

it's just GTFO I guess

I assume it's just struggling at some point, for some reason, while loading the level, and then it's completely fine

[lilac fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/aliens-ancient-gif-15448727

[civic wave]

but I don't have the knowledge to know for certain, or to investigate further

[halcyon current]

I guess that makes sense. It's more fine on the earlier levels, been happening more on R4s

[civic wave]

yeah r4 missions are quite big

[halcyon current]

On r1-3 it wasn't noticeable

So yeah maybe it's just r4 optimization

[rugged dock]

for r6AX where do we input the ||override command||? none of the terminals seem to have that command? edited in case spoilers or something

[noble wind]

the one on the bridge

assuming you are in the right zone

[rugged dock]

yup thank you somehow we missed that obvious terminal!

[noble wind]

[dry pumice]

Nothing's ever obvious in this game

[deep trellis]

R2C2 is kicking my crews and I butt. Any tips? We have tried lots of things but cant seem to get it right

[noble wind]

are you shooting the waves or are you killing them with melee

[deep trellis]

Mostly shooting

[noble wind]

then melee them and save ammo

[deep trellis]

ill try that next, thanks!

[hazy wedge]

What’s the main issue you’re facing?

[safe drum]

whats with the

r7a3

mm thing

[ocean spindle]

theres no r7a3

[deep trellis]

Mostly moving and fighting in the fog

[safe drum]

there is

when you do mm there is a chance that i shows r7a3

and i think you can host it?

[ocean spindle]

usually its a lot of knowin the map, u can try to speedrun the fog part just by running across it and initiating the alarm asap, and then immediatly after theres a disinfect station and a lot of rooms so

[safe drum]

literally saw it

[ocean spindle]

u have options

[safe drum]

my friend found it too

[ocean spindle]

u mean r1a3?

[safe drum]

r7a3

[ocean spindle]

its a loading thing with the lobby

as u load in

[safe drum]

i saw r7a3

[ocean spindle]

well it says r1

[safe drum]

it was r7

im 100% sure

[noble wind]

R7.5 confirmed

[safe drum]

what are devs up to

[whole grove]

1 bio, 1 mine, 2 sentries; melee error waves, shoot during alarm doors, funnel the enemies from spawn up the stairs along the cat walk, place both or one sentry on the catwalk and towards the door you found cell and fog turbine(s) [there is two, and make sure you check for resources as always], clear the wave before going into the fog; don't stay in the fog, just go straight up the stairs after class 2 alarm door, use disinfection station; do blood doors and find IDs and resources; go back into the fog to find the remaining IDs or go to the blood door (requires key) on the west side near where you dropped down; make sure you have ammo once you pick up the last ID, return to extraction

[noble wind]

R7.5

[safe drum]

guess who killed the scout with 4 rev shots without alerting anyone

[deep trellis]

thank you! we have been stuck for a while and its driving us nuts.

[deep trellis]

thank you!

[slow stone]

I saw a dream the other day about r2c2 and trying to find the ids in the fog

at least I had 99% inf resist and most of sleepers were after teammates

[craggy pier]

need an asnwer fast

does cfoam on doors ever go away or despawn

i am r1c2 and im at last alarm

i have 4 cfoam nades

[sturdy glen]

No

[civic wave]

doors stays forever

other surfaces is ~4 mins iirc

[craggy pier]

love you both

[spark lantern]

what graphics settings help in seeing better? i know some say shadow resolution helps with seeing shadows better are there any others?

[ocean spindle]

thats about it

[dry pumice]

Texture quality improves DMR scope and some others (or rather: DMR and others have their scopes before worse as your texture quality goes down - becoming dirtier and more pixelated)

[digital wave]

turn off bloom, depth of field , decrease motion blur to zero and some others settings next to them that adds visual effects to the game

increase FOV to over 70, mine is 85

Im not sure about Fog quality

[digital wave]

remember that girl from X-men who can go through wall ? it happens when you leave syringe unused behind

[grand prawn]

what? who?

[whole stirrup]

120 fov leads to fun times thinking everything in the side view seem like giants

[grand prawn]

Anybody know a good map for the biotracker achievement?

[craggy pier]

r1b1

[grand prawn]

k thank you

[ocean spindle]

r2b1 its also a good option

pretty much anythin that doesnt have an extraction scan

and that u can pull rooms well

[hazy wedge]

I did r1a1 but yes

[tiny quest]

I looked at the gtfo wiki and it said that I can get the palette Lugubrious by completing all of rundown 6 main sectors, I did that but I don't have lugubrious. Is lugubrious still in the game?

[past mesa]

Alt r6 isn’t r6

They mean og rundown 6

[tiny quest]

ohhh

so does that mean its no longer in the game

[past mesa]

Pink isn’t currently collectable I do believe

[tiny quest]

oh well at least i got a cool helmet

[soft crater]

Anything with extraction errors isn't ideal for bio achievement tbf

[craggy pier]

which shadow setting effects the visibility of shadow enemies?

[ocean spindle]

resolution

[craggy pier]

ty

[dusky niche]

Hey i got a question about modding gtfo

for some reason Arsenality mod doesn't work

i've tried installing duo arsenality mod but it just doesnt work, other mods do work as it seems cause i can see stats and all of guns

[ocean spindle]

thats probs more a question for the gtfo modding server

[dusky niche]

ah theres a modding server?

sorry

[ocean spindle]

.t modding

[uneven gulch]

While we do allow the use of some QoL and visual mods, GTFO doesn't officially support modding. However, we do recognize that a GTFO modding community exists and if you are interested in them, you are welcome to check out the modding communities found in #hc-modded (If you have any more questions, please read rule #12 in the rules channel for more information.)

[ocean spindle]

its ok

[finite oracle]

is there some sort of exclusive enemy in rundown 5? i saw an image of some sort of snatcher looking fella in the rundown 5 trailer

[noble wind]

its not exclusive to rundown 5

but they added it there for some reason

[craggy pier]

cos funny

[noble wind]

laughs in different timeline

[finite oracle]

i have never seen it in other rundowns, i dont even know what the enemy is

[craggy pier]

silly funny enemy

[finite oracle]

is it more common to see them in r5?

or is it not a regular type enemy

is it some sort of special boss

[craggy pier]

its more common in r7

[finite oracle]

wait so is it the snatcher?

[craggy pier]

yes

[digital mural]

the funny dog

[ocean spindle]

r5 og also introduced an enemy u mightve seen already, ||a funny scout||
but that one got added in alt r3d1

[finite oracle]

the ||invisible scout?||

[ocean spindle]

no, that ones r4
r5 introduced the ||funny charger scout||

the other funny

[finite oracle]

ok

[hazy wedge]

I'm just built different (I'm not smart)

[neat aurora]

are there anything you can do when go thought door?

[radiant herald]

what?

[safe drum]

new secret grenade launcher special weapon

[soft crater]

[deep trellis]

trying to host a game, cant seem to get the link right even though im copying link to clipboard. anyone want to run R2c2?

[soft crater]

Be in a lobby copy lobby Id and post it with your LFG post.

Or send it directly to people that join your VC

[hidden ridge]

For R2C2, jykelly: know where to go, open the door in front at the start and bolt to the zone with fog turb+cell, ping both, get both, of that zone, leave the door on the far end open and the other closed so they take the slightly longer route, keep the other doors closed, do the alarm, then hold the left, keep the doors you find open and do the other alarm.

Upstairs there's a dis station which basically means free disinfection for everyone, open the blood door and get the key. Now, if you're lucky, with the IDs from those 3 zones you opened you should be just missing 1-2, those you can find in the zone that requires the key at the start of the map. Check on a terminal. If you're unlucky you need to also open another zone, which is also a blood door and needs a cell. Terminal for the fog zone (the one after the first alarm) is on the left side of the last room, you should see it easily.

Sorry for the wall of text

[soft crater]

I miss when R2C2 was a crazy experience for players back in OG

[hidden ridge]

Remember, the error waves are piss easy if you have 3 guys who are decent at melee you can have them all defend from the error waves

What usually kills groups is the first alarm tbh

[hidden ridge]

For some it still is, I had a german pub scream at me for taking an ammopack when he had supply efficiency

I just left

[civic wave]

d4rkeva has gone too far

[hidden ridge]

(wasn't darkeva obviously)

[soft crater]

OG weapon variety wasn't as big next to general player experience /knowledge of the game

And well I only know of 1 German player that goes into pubs

[noble wind]

People from Germany are very nice

[lone mortar]

hiii mar

[tardy ingot]

i havent even played with beepo once yet

[whole grove]

Anyone else have steam server connection issues?

[whole grove]

Did you beat it by now?

[past mesa]

On your main account you flame him on your alt

[deep trellis]

no

[whole grove]

Have your friends still want to beat it too?

[ocean spindle]

new challenge, activate all scout tendrils before meleeing it without screaming

[mental furnace]

I doubt there's enough time to do it solo, but maybe with teammates appoaching from different angles

[noble wind]

Can you bhop in gtfo

[upper ginkgo]

the closest thing we have to bhop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drw02JlDANo

kinda difficult to perform consistently, but getting 1-2 hops is good enough

[noble wind]

I assume moving left n right will kill the momentum

[tardy ingot]

its moreso that it stops you from maneuvering rly

[radiant herald]

alo

[noble wind]

Oofers

[civic wave]

yeah, no full air control cs bhop in gtfo

only go in one direction and conserve momentum

[noble wind]

Wanted to try the slendi challenge

Game unplayable

[eternal bridge]

No. Try the Soundless Challenge

[whole grove]

Will they bring back old sniper?

[eternal bridge]

Highly unlikely

[soft crater]

only time will tell

[vernal meadow]

Heya i have a question for R8A2 secondary we need to do smth specify to unlock terminal ? We do B2 to get both password and when we enter it on hidden term, that say he's wrong... i didn't understand. o///

[wind cedar]

The passwords reset every week

[vernal meadow]

Ya ikr, we did B2 like 10 mins ago

[wind cedar]

Huh, did you get the two parts of the password?

[vernal meadow]

And when we put password of hidden, that say he's wrong, and ye we put the "-"

Yap

[wind cedar]

Weird

[tardy ingot]

whats the password you got?

[vernal meadow]

3RG20-AMKK6

[slender sleet]

2o not 20

[vernal meadow]

MEH

I'm fucking blind

thanks u

[civic wave]

Every single time, without fail

People get sight issued by the gtfo typeface

[vernal meadow]

Ye it's mybad

Always trouble with 8/0 0/o

😂

[tame fulcrum]

Is there currently a way to check which logs you collected for the achievement? Doesn't seem like it, so I should probably start a list

[mental furnace]

https://andocas.com/gtfo or [deleted]

[tame fulcrum]

Sweet, thank you for putting in the work and sharing it

[mental furnace]

[deleted]

[digital wave]

its so annoying

make me think about the meme which shows an asian guy trying to look at a tiny small paper #gtfo-media

[noble wind]

tried r6c3pe soundless and it just gave me anxiety n hyper attention to look in every direction every 2 secs

[twin apex]

does sustain scan count as bio scan (running boosters)

[tardy ingot]

yes

[rain hearth]

is ingame matchmaking viable now? is it working?

[civic wave]

in game matchmaking was never good

it still is not good

hope this helps

[lilac fulcrum]

we have greatly improved matchmaking with rundown 8 release in December and have seen a significant increase in people finding matches.

but if you don't mind taking a little extra time and effort, you will generally find higher quality matches via discord

[twin apex]

can u stun tank at all without breaking one of its blob

[noble sierra]

Theoretically possible I think

With hammer, one can full charge a blob 2 times w/o breaking it, took 7 hits to stagger so if you solo hammer a tank it's kinda doable

[peak geode]

Hey, quick Q: What are the appropriate places and situations to use the HEL sentry? Is it any good?

My group and I run the Burst and Sniper, and we are unsure if the HEL sentry is underperforming or if we are just not good with it

[craggy pier]

Hel sentry is generally an inferior version of burst sentry.

It can keep more things away from you under ideal conditions at the expense of a ton of ammo

The ideal condition being that enemies will follow a very predictable straight line towards you, so it can penetrate and apply stagger to several at once

It is better against chargers, i guess.

But then you'd probably want to take sniper if you have room or shotgun if you don't

Take HEL if:

You are sure that enemies will line themselves up infront of the sentry

You have plenty of tool refill to spare

And/or If enemies spawn back quickly or really close to you so killing them doesn't do much

I still strongly believe that HELs fire rate should be nerfed

Because that would end up being a buff

[tardy ingot]

btw, just saying
youd rather want a kill sentry if enemys spawn back immediatly (if that spawn point is far enough away, see r2e1 as a good example)
auto sentry is good for close up spawns tho for sure in such cases

[halcyon current]

Anything to stop it from being a tool pack black hole tbh

[craggy pier]

yea

[lone mortar]

More dmg lul

[halcyon current]

I think almost everytime I've seen it used it eats all available ammo it has

[lone mortar]

Or make it a cannonball thrower

[craggy pier]

It applies so much stagger that it just doesn't need the fire rate, you can cut it by half and still permastagger anything

[lone mortar]

That literally shits out a big ball of lead

Stopping 1 guy and blocking the wave

[craggy pier]

Thr thing has a 8x stagger multi

It's basically just a taser

It doesn't need to be a bullet hose

[lone mortar]

Chain lightting

[craggy pier]

And damage isn't the reason you'd take it

[lone mortar]

Lets gooooo

[lone mortar]

Imagine a sleeper getting tasered

Itd be so lit

[craggy pier]

Nah

They'd probably poop themselves

It might not even kill them

They can live without half their torso, you'd need to fry their entire body

Now that we're on the topic

Taser knife reskin, make it happen 10c

WOOOW

Hel sentry's stagger damage is 6.4 and charger's stagger is 6.5

Ten chambers are a bunch kf bullies

[civic wave]

oh no, anyway

[craggy pier]

No it's important

Also apparently 10c had the same idea

If soft stagger lasts half a second then hel auto sentry deals exactly as much stagger as it needs to permanently stagger giants

So if you nerfed the fire rate it now doesn't keep giants away

I think that's a fair trade off to be honest they're slow anyway

You could make it's rpm 250 and it would still permastagger all the smalls

And it would use 1/3rd the ammo

[eternal bridge]

Lol! Yea, you will get that

[cinder void]

Do you have to scan wave enemies in the biotracker challenge?

[lone mortar]

nah

it burns them remember?

[arctic marten]

yes

[craggy pier]

If it one hit staggered chargers you could make it be 120rpm

And it would last forever

[eternal bridge]

Try R4E1 or R5E1 with that mindset and you can truly see the staggering mental hellscape

[peak geode]

Thank you all for the info

Just so I don't come around that often with questions about this and that: where do you folks go to for more info, especially stats on things? I tried the Wiki and various YT channels, and they feel old and probably outdated

[tardy ingot]

theres a few spreadsheets
wiki should be pretty up to date

theres up to date youtube videos with weapon discussions and guides

[topaz anvil]

We've lost another to the spreadsheeters 😔

[craggy pier]

Wiki I guess

But how much a gun kicks or how good it's reload cancel is or how terrible the flashlight don't show up on the wiki

It's best to try stuff out in game

The most useful thing to use stats for is getting a feel for how your gun kills

Do you need 4 or 7 bullets, how many headshots etc. so you don't overkill and can judge when something's about to die easily

[arctic marten]

ive got a spreadsheet here, but do note that as others have said, stats are only half the story
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CC_lsObUbvp7FrGt-MtQrcFvKQGsQ1FRLxIsREG6tu0/edit?usp=sharing

[hardy grotto]

Stats…

[neon gust]

what

thank god i stop playing this game

see you in den of wolfs

🐺

[noble wind]

dear god no i dont think i can do the error part of either of those especially tank error

[craggy pier]

It is in most situations, isn't it?

[hardy grotto]

It’s an inferior version in the sense that they are both sentries that shoot bullets yes

Hel auto sentry fills a different role tho

Burst sentry kills stuff, hel auto staggers stuff

[neon gust]

there 2 different sentries

thats like me comparing dmr to machinepistol

but i already had this conversation in 2021

[craggy pier]

Yeah and one is most applicable

[neon gust]

and 2022

[craggy pier]

Being burst

[neon gust]

and 2023

and now in 2024 again

[craggy pier]

Is more versatile

Therefore better most of the time

[neon gust]

100 hour take like always

[halcyon current]

Yk I see people talk about burst, hel, and sniper but I have never seen anyone mention the shotgun sentry ever

Is the thing that bad?

[neon gust]

no

its actually pretty good

its just that people suck at placing the thing down

[floral acorn]

pair it with bio + auto or sniper and it's godtier

[halcyon current]

I imagine it needs to be really close

[neon gust]

no

[floral acorn]

it doesnt even fire distance

[neon gust]

just use brain

you dont use distance

you use chokepoints

[halcyon current]

Chokepoints are ideal, yes.

You can funnel things really easily, as I've learned

[floral acorn]

and never ever point it so it fires from behind and u stand infront of it .. .. that shrapnel stings 🙂

[neon gust]

not even manipulating pathing

but just doorways and entrances

end of staircases

[halcyon current]

That seems suicidal I'm ngl

[floral acorn]

some other sentries get best angles that way but shotgun.. nope.

[halcyon current]

Maybe I'll try out shotgun turret sometime

[neon gust]

i mean it helps that all of them either shoot a burst or 1 bullet at a time

shotgun obviously having pellets

[halcyon current]

Yeah, shells have that spread

[neon gust]

technically the first pellet of the shotgun sentry shot always hit

i tihnk

the rest just goes whenever jesus wants it to go

[surreal lake]

You can use it, but for some reason the targeting on it is wonky. It also wastes a ton of tool because it fires at dead bodies, its supposed to be this close quarters sentry but most maps that have closed spaces also have doors… so you may as well just use cfoam mine.

[halcyon current]

I love funny c foam mine ngl

Watching 20 dudes just vanish is awesome

[ocean spindle]

it fires too fast when it has the bio tracker thing, but the bio saves it ammo so

[whole grove]

I wish they would make a scout that yells then hides and keeps spawning enemies until you find it and kill it

So many ideas could be implemented

Any other ideas for enemies?

[whole stirrup]

Invulnerable mother?

[neon gust]

SCREAMER FROM L4D ALPHA!!!!

😲

[noble wind]

a moderately tanky enemy that buffs other enemies with hp

[whole grove]

Shadow scout hiding would be fun

[noble wind]

if it gigles when its hiding then ill take you on that one

[craggy pier]

death of every pub since they dont know how to use bio

[whole grove]

Imagine it only makes a whispering sound and you can only find it with audio

if enemies made sounds definitely increase the fear factor

[noble wind]

can only be tagged for 2 secs i love it

[whole grove]

sounds like weeping and crying

[ocean spindle]

wow it's almost like an enemy that exists already
u know some kind of invisible enemy that u had to light with ur flashlight too would be funky

[whole grove]

Is there a built in log tracker or most ppl doing it externally with excel or other software manually?

[noble wind]

i heard there is a log tracker but dont know more than that

[jagged shore]

https://andocas.com/gtfo/

alternatively, https://github.com/rfvgyhn/gtfo-log-tracker/releases/latest

[whole grove]

Where's the log in R1D1? just one terminal?

[whole stirrup]

I started just playing bio because every time I let someone else do it they do a bad job…

[craggy pier]

fax

[whole stirrup]

“Let’s let the bot do it while we wait for a 4th…” nah cause the 4th will join without bio.

[craggy pier]

yknow i get it, sometimes u forget u have bio and have to be reminded, sure, fair enough, but when I tell u repeatedly to ping things and you dont im going to reach through ur monitor and strangle u

[noble wind]

i think its the one in the zone that opens after reactore shutdown

[whole stirrup]

Worst one was a person with no mic who didn’t type and would never scan and was also mostly just afk… never again

[light kestrel]

Biotracker when ping falls off shadows for 2 seconds between cds and team is yelling for reping

[whole stirrup]

[jagged shore]

i think you're thinking of r5d1

[civic wave]

^

r1d1 has no lockdown zone

[jagged shore]

both of those trackers tell you the zone number to look for a log on a terminal in

[narrow niche]

One of the res rooms

[whole grove]

74 74 76 78

[whole grove]

yeah r5d1

[noble wind]

pretty sure it does

[civic wave]

where

[noble wind]

after class 5 alarm

[civic wave]

after the class 5 it's just the reactor, no?

[noble wind]

the very first alarm

[narrow niche]

?

[civic wave]

that's just side zones

[jagged shore]

also there's 2 class 5s
but yeah there's no door in lockdown in r1d1 lol

[narrow niche]

It doesnt

Lmao

[civic wave]

you are getting confused with r5d1 because the level is pretty much a beefed up r1d1

[whole grove]

What's the questions?

[civic wave]

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2312099576268078177/88C81DB85AEFB298459262BABB216BDB1CFBB66F/ r1d1

[noble wind]

must have been a fever dream

[hidden ridge]

r1d1 does NOT have a lockdown zone

Speaking of which

I think that the first res zone branch on the left has the C room on the second zone that sometimes spawns different (like that old bug on og r5b2 Extreme) and the tile doesn't have an opened staircase or however you call them

I never bothered enough to check

Would be interesting if someone tested it a bit, in case one of you guys wants to

[eternal bridge]

Yea… I nearly broke down hard halfway in R4E1

That Mother stealth room messed me up

[distant gate]

how can i track "the inner"

[noble wind]

no way unless u remember every expedition you successfuly finished since r8 drop

[jagged shore]

yeah, the answer is you don't

or just be meticulous

[distant gate]

😢

[jagged shore]

to make it a bit easier at least, it only tracks when you beat the level

[lilac fulcrum]

you are 1% of the way to the total distance needed, +/- 100% 😄

[languid glacier]

anybody know the best mission for the biotracker achievement?

and what loadout?

[noble wind]

r1a1 or r1b1

[languid glacier]

i tried r1a1 but the error alarms been fucking me up

is it best everyone runs bio tho?

[noble wind]

that works too

[slow stone]

I'd suggest r1b1

any mission that has extract alarm just messes everything up

[dry pumice]

I did R1B1, 3 biotrackers (including yourself) and a shotgun sentry just in case.
Bots were given weakest guns so that they don't oneshot anything the microsecond it wakes up

[noble wind]

Sawed off sniper R8e2 bots thoughts

[dry pumice]

0% ammo after first alarm

[noble wind]

Well if I survive n get to the terminal then it won't be an issue

Reactor will be the next milestone

[dry pumice]

They don't aim for tank tumors, don't they

[noble wind]

How will I even go about the tanks man oh man

[noble wind]

They do but not significant dmg output

[halcyon current]

Using knife to kill giants is fundamentally the same as sledge right, outside you want to aim for backstabs? By that I mean go for limbs

[craggy pier]

https://youtu.be/aY-jTaEyS_4?si=ay65Eq0YKpLTf5mZ hope it helps :3

[halcyon current]

Lmao that mf got hit regged 4 times in a row

[desert sluice]

Havent encountered one yet but am nervous for when i do

[halcyon current]

Literally why are they unable to connect hits

[craggy pier]

what

[halcyon current]

I've seen the game hit reg on occasion but this is like, ridiculous

[craggy pier]

wdym

[halcyon current]

I mean they stabbed the first enemy 4 times and none actually connected

And the hits on giant seem 50/50 as to whether they're connecting or not

[craggy pier]

oh lol idk

[halcyon current]

Idk if it helps but was funny

[mental furnace]

I recommend R2B1 with three biotrackers and a c-foam launcher to permafoam the class VII, but R1B1 isn't too bad either

[noble wind]

They are lurking and looming be careful

[radiant herald]

3 bio trackers?????

[dry pumice]

(for the achievement)

[mental furnace]

I'm paranoid about mines or sentries killing unpinged enemies :)

[jagged shore]

yeah when my friends and i tried for it a couple times we decided on quad bio to ensure no deaths like that