gtfo-related-questions

[slow stone]

oh I though you meant specific enemy that only appears in the level

[dry pumice]

Although there appears to be at least 1 enemy who might be level exclusive...

But i don't know for certain until i beat the game.

[slow stone]

There is at least 1 enemy yes

Actually might be 2

Pretty sure that ||Long mom|| and ||potato|| only appear in one level each, no?

[dry pumice]

Not reading the second one

[finite oracle]

when you say 10 of them, you are talking about the ||really big version of it right||

[dry pumice]

Yes.

I can think of at least 4 you have to fight.

[slow stone]

fun fact: did you know the mothers have small smily faces

[digital mural]

[ocean spindle]

:3

[digital mural]

did you know the kraken has a sad face?

🤓

[ocean spindle]

it has angwy face

[lone mortar]

no

like u?

[digital mural]

:C

[slow stone]

@digital mural #gtfo-media message

[finite oracle]

only in r8 or in other rundowns aswell?

[dry pumice]

Others too

||I remember at least one in R4...
At least one in R5...
One in... R7? Can't remember if she was optional to fight though.
There is at least one aboidable one in R8.
Don't remember one in R6 at all...||

[slow stone]

Yeap, there isnt one in ||R1, R2, R6|| atleast

[civic wave]

Yeah sounds right

[finite oracle]

In r3c1 ||the roar you hear is it just foreshadowing the next expedition, or is there a mother enemy in that expedition aswell ||

[civic wave]

Foreshadowinf

[summer echo]

wow
those are all the rundowns I've decided to play with one of friends
lmao gonna be a while until they learn of that enemy type unless they spoil themself then lol

[narrow niche]

||Nightmare baby||

[lone mortar]

[cinder totem]

where is zone 71 in r8a2?

[digital mural]

after zone 70

you are welcome

[narrow niche]

pable is so nice

[digital mural]

i know right

[narrow niche]

[austere cloak]

is there a logic of spawning location of hord(or wave) when doing alarm? exaple like spawning from many room or door far away from players?

[tepid sand]

Rule of thumb is 2 rooms away

Bear in mind room dividers count as rooms

[austere cloak]

that makes kinda hard to count room LOL

hmmm 2 room

[tepid sand]

Room divider rooms are very obvious

[austere cloak]

i actually dont get it while i played for like 100H LOL

thanks 2 room ill take this in mind

[slow stone]

if the letter of room changes then its another room

also the enemies always take the path of least resistance/fastest

[austere cloak]

ulala this is clean

[digital wave]

bro, we got the terminal error, cannot access it, anyone know how to fix ? stuck at final stage now so annoyed

[vernal nimbus]

Not directly gtfo related but sometimes when I play with an lfg group in a vc on this server someone occasionally joins and drops a loud metal pipe soundboard, any way to work around this?

[lilac fulcrum]

go to user settings >> voice and video >> set soundboard volume all the way down. now you won't hear the soundboard sonds when someone joins, or if they play them while in the vc

[vernal nimbus]

thanks

[hidden ridge]

As in noone can interact with it? Usually make clients leave one at a time

AFAIK this happens because someone was close to a terminal while someone else was using it

Which solves if the interested player leaves the lobby

But it's usually better to tell people NEVER to get close to a terminal when someone else's using it

[digital wave]

thanks, next time I shoot any mfs get near me

and shout "GTFO!"

[cinder totem]

is zone 71 in r8a2 secondary objective? cause i did not find no zone 71 after looking for a while

[dry pumice]

Why do you need it again?

[cinder totem]

im trying to get all the logs

but i simply cant find zone 71

[dry pumice]

In that case yes. There is a log hidden in the bullshit room of secondary.

[cinder totem]

but how is it in secondary cause the door of secondary just says zone 70

[dry pumice]

||You get teleported||

[cinder totem]

oh, alright thanks

[finite oracle]

how does getting boosters from expeditions exactly work? i get the basic idea of picking up the artifacts but, what has booster artificial heat got do with expeditions?

[mossy aurora]

you get a booster for reaching 1.00 progression from grabbing artifacts. a lower artifact heat means that each artifact you grab contributes less

artifact heat goes down from grabbing boosters in a mission /replaying it to prevent spamming 1 level to farm them, and will go up naturally again by playing other levels

[dry pumice]

The default progress is something like +0.17 or +0.20 per artifact, i think?

So you need to find like 5-6 in a row to get a new booster

Which is also why agressives are such gold

[tardy ingot]

0.15

have full booster slots and basically never use them and they become worthless

Devalue the boosters

[safe drum]

how do i stop sleepers from bullying me

[topaz anvil]

Consider shooting them while they are far away and don't let them get close

[cinder totem]

say no to they're licks, no consent no licking

[wheat tulip]

Is there any official information(stats) of weapons and monster? Like damage, health etc

[slow stone]

wiki

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/GTFO_Wiki

[wheat tulip]

What is artifact heat 91%? On map

[slow stone]

its basically how much progress youll get towards boosters, when it reaches 20% youll get none

[wheat tulip]

Thanks

[slow stone]

playing other maps makes it higher

[wheat tulip]

Which map has lots of artifact, i have very few left

[slow stone]

all maps are pretty much the same

[digital wave]

you can play R4A1-A2 they are long maps, I think there will be mote artifacts

[dry pumice]

Its very random, and you can find like none or all of them, but notably optional objective zones of Rundowns 6-8 seem to have lots of them.

R6B2 in particular comes to mind, you can walk into a room and just reliably find like 5 artifacts in your eyesight.

[wheat tulip]

Alright 👍 ill try

[finite oracle]

do sentries not have a backstab multiplier?

[dry pumice]

Not anymore they don't.

People liked placing them behind enemies a little bit too much

[dry pumice]

Is pump a bad pick for R8D2?

[floral acorn]

pump worked just fine for my bruh on d2

[dry pumice]

I just imagine i'll spend half the time doing nothing. Lots of long range engagement.

[floral acorn]

oh you'll get action alright .. .. that ||error-bit with the vogen + 3 terms + vogen + key + alarms_deactivate|| is gonna be some cqb * cocks pumpshotty *

[dry pumice]

Yeah, but only that.

||Useless in tank fights (i'm not approaching that thing), i guess can sort of make it work against mother, but the double scan... Hmmmm)||

[floral acorn]

and also beeeeg ||spoiler hahaha|| where u can safely go stand in the stink and do some-a-poppin' ..

hmm tank fights are okay u just gotta get a bit closer than with some other weapons, with any terrain / furniture it's very decent (in my humble)

but yeh my humble opinion is: pumpshotty is not out of place in d2 as long as it's not all 4 team-mates wielding one

[dry pumice]

I think i'll stick to BC. Aside from left-over ass-ishness of using it - its pretty reliable at doing many a thing.

Or.... God, i don't know.

No matter what i pick - i lose something.

Fuck it, i'll try pump.

[sudden scroll]

for log related achievements : does anyone know if you have to win the level for log collections to be saved?

[digital mural]

no

you can get the log and then die

return to lobby

and it should count

[sudden scroll]

ah ok thanks!

[whole grove]

Was there a change to the veruta flashlight?

[soft crater]

no

[fluid patrol]

You can list based on a specific zone letter area right? like LIST ZONE_100A and LIST ZONE_100B

[civic wave]

nope, you cannot list based on individual rooms

[red flax]

What's the difference between Burst RoF and RoF on the wiki for the two machineguns?

[hazy wedge]

Your question was answered before
#gtfo-related-questions message

[red flax]

The machineguns don't really burst though

[lone mortar]

it really does lol

[red flax]

Does it not just start shooting after you charge it up?

[lone mortar]

you dont just take all the values of Veruta and go all out

[lone mortar]

its a charge up into full auto/ burst for BC

but most of the time youre just gonna be 5-7 bullet bursting into small waves

[red flax]

So which one is the fire rate of the gun when it's shooting

[lone mortar]

i forgot the RoF but its kinda starts when you end the charge up and start unloading

[red flax]

Yeah that's what I'm asking, which one is that? Burst Rof or just RoF

[lone mortar]

just RoF

cause theyre full auto weapons

[red flax]

And Burst RoF is what in this case, how fast you shoot assuming you charge every shot?

[lone mortar]

no

it applies to burst weapons rn is the burst cannon

carbine/ burst rifle

[red flax]

Wait so why is there a Burst RoF stat on the machineguns then?

[jagged shore]

It's probably there on every gun?

[lone mortar]

its on there bc

you actually dont empty a mag

[red flax]

It isn't on every gun

[lone mortar]

and shoot in bursts in this case MGs are used by this alot

cause their reloads are pretty mid

[jagged shore]

Prob just done mistake

[red flax]

Can you elaborate on this?

[jagged shore]

Ask in wiki chat tbh cause seems like it'd be a mistake

[fluid patrol]

Thank you 🙂

what is the difference betwen calss 1 - 4 alarm as well?

[civic wave]

the class of alarm tells you how many sets of scans it has

[dry pumice]

Basically how many "rounds" the scan has. The more - the longer it will take.

[whole grove]

Why is there not enough bullets in the heavy assault rifle!?

Why does it have such bad recoil!?

[tardy ingot]

eh the bullets are fine

recoil is just annoying tho

[whole grove]

devs plz buff weapons or at least bring back old sniper

[narrow niche]

Sniper nerf was needed 🙏

[whole grove]

Niche weapon, majority don't know its potential

just like the hel gun

[narrow niche]

Eh hel gun is much better

:P

Also is hel gun really that niche

Eh

[tardy ingot]

wot

[narrow niche]

Don't you know

Sniper pen

Kill 5 strikers in one shot

[hazy wedge]

Devs mainly look at usage statistics. They dk how to balance weapons well tbh

[narrow niche]

Was the sniper used that much?

And the scatter that less

:P

[hazy wedge]

Yeah I think in one of the steam forums, Calle said sniper was among one of the most used

[past mesa]

Yeah scatter is still underused

[narrow niche]

Why

[past mesa]

People are bad at the game

Burst cannon is always under used aswell

[narrow niche]

:P

Also are all the noobs running spear or smth

Whyd it get nerfed

Sorry

All the noobs and artek

[waxen jetty]

could jish win with 1 clone

[past mesa]

Rick I should be in pub tier

The hel rev change was my doing like 7 months ago and it made it way into vanilla reloaded

[waxen jetty]

but u literally play with 3 lego clones and win

[past mesa]

I can with just one

[past mesa]

Rick what is the r8e2 time

[waxen jetty]

its not gonna be near 45 is all im sayin

[past mesa]

Really?

[waxen jetty]

ye

so much timegate

[past mesa]

not even kraken while reactor can save I guess?

[waxen jetty]

well reactor is what u would expect

but kraken u literally sit there for like 1m waiting for next bubble

[past mesa]

Yeah

[waxen jetty]

and after that u have to listen to like 3m of dialogue

about betraying the alt team

[past mesa]

oh fuck

[waxen jetty]

LOL

[past mesa]

I forgot about that

Maybe there is a dialog skip in this game

[waxen jetty]

and then outside u wait like

1 minute

[past mesa]

I forgot about the cringe this level has

When it comes to waiting

[whole grove]

Actually no, people just use it and miss

[narrow niche]

i mean

its really not that good

[whole grove]

The sniper is not that good prior to nerf?

[narrow niche]

no

not really

[sturdy glen]

it was the weakest outside of incredibly niche scenarios despite requiring the most skill

[halcyon current]

I'm not a GTFO vet or anything but no special weapon beats the feeling of the High Cal Pistol

The simple act of shooting that gun releases dopamine.

[sturdy glen]

so true

[tardy ingot]

I wouldnt say sniper was the weakest pre nerf

[sturdy glen]

of burst cannon, scatter, and sniper?

[narrow niche]

i mean you did just say weakest

so

[sturdy glen]

why tf would I compare sniper to anything but those

that is always the context

yeah guys sniper sucks vs smalls compared to revolver!!

[past mesa]

sniper was probs the weakest of the big killers last patch

Expect for kracken match up

[tardy ingot]

Oooh
Mb

[tardy ingot]

was also best vs bigs/hybrids

and far less shit vs tank/pmom than rn

[sturdy glen]

oh you actually thought I meant all specials wtf

[safe drum]

Why do ppl hate short rifle

[sturdy glen]

ig I did need to clarify

its not even the worst special rn so like

[past mesa]

No damage no stagger

[tardy ingot]

nah was mb chill

i couldve read that differently than i did

[safe drum]

Can't it headshot strikers

[tardy ingot]

yes and?

[sturdy glen]

not even close

[past mesa]

then what

[sturdy glen]

if you mean breaking head that does not matter

[safe drum]

That's a good thing

[past mesa]

Let me introduce you to har

Which is just better short rifle

[tardy ingot]

Honestly. If it didnt have ammo and mag size it would legit be worse than most fucking main weapons

[safe drum]

Har?

Hel assault rifle

[past mesa]

Tbh I think it is worse than hel rev and hel shotty

[sturdy glen]

it is

much worse

[tardy ingot]

the only reason why short rifle isnt actually worse than the majority of them is because you can spam bodyshots like an idiot

but if you scale it down to a main its soooo bad aswell

[raven jungle]

so i just got the game and am waiting for tonight for my friends to be available. just how doable is this game solo?

[sturdy glen]

id rather have dmr even

[tardy ingot]

oh yea 4sure

[past mesa]

Heavy assault rifle

Is just better short rifle

[safe drum]

So much recoil

[tardy ingot]

theres like 5 mains that legit just do better

Even rifle and pistol do more with what they have realistically.

[safe drum]

Why did they

Make it automatic

[past mesa]

You haven’t seen recoil till you play with r7

har

[sturdy glen]

tap fire it

[safe drum]

I've played with it

It's good for hipfire

[tardy ingot]

Solo solo: hard. Not everything is doable. And it wont adjust for player count
With bots: easier, but tedious. Still some stuff not doable
Both require massive cheese strats later on

[safe drum]

Tbh

[tardy ingot]

you know that sad thing

HAR is already weak

[safe drum]

😔

[tardy ingot]

and short rifle is just … worse

[past mesa]

short rifle hurts my hand to play well

[safe drum]

The primary slug shotgun is so weird

It's like it's got a choke on it

[sturdy glen]

im ngl I really like slug

[past mesa]

I have to click so fast and aim so fast for no value

[raven jungle]

i really didnt like the feel of the main slug shotgun when i tried it

[past mesa]

Slug is fine

[sturdy glen]

its not a strong main, but ppl give it too much shit

[safe drum]

I prefer the secondary slug
Aren't the aame

[tardy ingot]

i rly like the design

[safe drum]

Same

Primary slug looks good

[tardy ingot]

but so cucked by firerate and range

[safe drum]

I'm trying to hipfire with it
But I just can't even when the enemies are so close

[tardy ingot]

Hipfire is dead center tho?

[safe drum]

Wdym

I feel like hel gun has got the best hipfire

Shots

[tardy ingot]

[past mesa]

Slug shitty hip fire is dead center

[safe drum]

You can head shot easily with it

Do you guys even play with shotguns

Except scattergun

[past mesa]

Hello I am a hel shotty scattergun player and have been since r6

[sturdy glen]

I play hel shotty every game

[past mesa]

^

[safe drum]

I can't play with hel shotgun smh

I feel like I waste ammo when I shoot with it

[raven jungle]

id like to ask a question about rundowns because im not sure i quite understand how they work

[tardy ingot]

Yes? Cuz all of them are good

Well choke is kinda role crept but also works fine

[digital mural]

they are basically just a set of different expeditions

[safe drum]

Are they

[raven jungle]

13. While we bring back the old Rundowns with new twists and lore (referring to them as ALT Rundowns), we are still not permitting the original old Rundowns to be played on the server. This server being one of the most crucial parts of matchmaking, we would like to ensure that all players are on the same "page" (or in this case, Rundown), and respect the developer's concept for the game.

so from what im looking at, there is ALT rundowns R1 through 6, and then non-ALT 7 and 8? should 1-6 not be played?

[digital mural]

what do they mean is

[sturdy glen]

just dont play old versions of the game

[digital mural]

before ALT rundowns they were 1-6 only
they are not available

[tardy ingot]

Yes?

[sturdy glen]

dw you wont break that rule by accident, you have to be intentionally downloading and playing old rundowns

[tardy ingot]

Well slug shotgun isnt good

[safe drum]

I just want the magenta palette smh

[safe drum]

The secondary does good though

It does something

[raven jungle]

oh okay good, what does the ALT even mean then in the current versions?

[digital mural]

Alternate

[safe drum]

If I remember right

[sturdy glen]

its the rerelease

bringing them to curent version

[digital mural]

basically the same as the old ones but with some differences

[raven jungle]

oh so alt is like, new

[sturdy glen]

yeah

relatively

[raven jungle]

gotcha

is R1 strictly speaking easier than R8? or are they just like different "levels"?

[digital mural]

yes

its way easier than R8

[raven jungle]

okay coolio

[safe drum]

||the urge to spread misinformation||

I need a place to spread misinformation

Twitter isn't a good place

[raven jungle]

where it says COMPLETED:[1,-,-,-] is that referring to the number of times cleared on that difficulty?

[digital mural]

no

those are optional objectives

[safe drum]

It kinda does though?

[digital mural]

first number is main
second is secondary
third is overload
fourth is Prisioner Efficiency ( all 3 objectives in one run)

and the number means how many times have you completed each objective

[safe drum]

^

[digital mural]

if there isnt any number that means the expedition doesnt have any optional (besides main ofc)

[civic wave]

[Main, Secondary (also sometimes called Extreme, it was renamed in the past), Overload, Prisoner Efficiency (Doing all 3 objectives in one run)]

[digital mural]

[raven jungle]

so when i look at R1A1 it just has main when i click into it so there is not any other objectives for that mission?

[sturdy glen]

that is what the - mean

[civic wave]

correct, there are no optional objectives in rundowns 1 through 3

[raven jungle]

ah okay so itll say 0 if there was one

[sturdy glen]

ye

[digital mural]

yes

[civic wave]

rundowns 4 and onwards have optional objectives

[raven jungle]

this stuff.... could be more clearly pointed out in game xD

[civic wave]

A lot of stuff could be, but alas

[raven jungle]

its fine though im getting my answers ultimately

so is HEL typically lower damage? the HEL turret states its low damage but all other HEL weapons dont so im not sure if thats just an intrinsic property of HEL weapons lol. i do know they over pen though

[digital mural]

yeah they are usually low damage

[ocean spindle]

not usually, Hel weaponry can be as strong as others

HEL just means it overpenetrates

[digital mural]

hel revolver is a good gun

i recommend

[raven jungle]

ill give that a shot then

[ocean spindle]

HEL auto pistol and HEL auto sentry are just stagger weapons, its not the HEL part, its the 'tungsten bullets' part

[digital mural]

pro tip: dont even bother using the hel sentry

[ocean spindle]

HEL rifle has some of the highest dmg in the game, 30
HEL gun has enough to oneshot a small with a headshot

HEL revo its a two shot, head and bodyshot, which for a main its good

[raven jungle]

does the enemy health pools get bigger at higher levels?

[digital mural]

nope

[raven jungle]

sweet

[ocean spindle]

enemy health its always the same, what u might find its other types of enemies

[digital mural]

they still the same
of course different variant of enemy = different health pool

[ocean spindle]

which might have more resistance instead of more health

or no precision points

[raven jungle]

yeah, the consistency of enemy health is nice though

[ocean spindle]

which renders weapons like dmr which needs headshots a bit less useful

[tardy ingot]

What

[ocean spindle]

yeah i thought the same

[median pulsar]

how do i get into r8a2 secondary

[digital mural]

i forgot hel gun existed

[ocean spindle]

and hel rifle?

[median pulsar]

i ccant open door in emergency lockdown

[ocean spindle]

and hel shottie?

[tardy ingot]

The „auto“ parts indicates low dmg here

Hel „auto“ pistol and hel „auto“ sentry

[raven jungle]

spreading misinformation 😔

[digital mural]

you need to find a terminal in zone 69

a secret terminal

and put a secret code

[median pulsar]

ok ty

[ocean spindle]

the misinfo its real

[tardy ingot]

hel revo is high among main weapons

Hel gun/hel rifle?

hel shotty

[digital mural]

hel shotty doesnt do that much damage tbh

[ocean spindle]

what

[digital mural]

as always

auto sentry is the best sentry

use it

[ocean spindle]

sape

[tardy ingot]

yea dw only 3rd highest main dmg

[digital mural]

bro

[tardy ingot]

It has the most bullets!

[digital mural]

not that much damage see

[tardy ingot]

gotta be huge

[digital mural]

should be 1st place

[ocean spindle]

why are u like this

[median pulsar]

do i get secrect code from the terminal or no

[digital mural]

thats a good question

[digital mural]

one part of the code is in R8B2 secondary, on the terminal in the final fight
the other part is in R8B2 main

[median pulsar]

can u dm me the password lol

so its not spoilers for everyone here

[digital mural]

...

read carefuly

my name

[median pulsar]

TY :p

[raven jungle]

wow there is a surprising amount you can do with the terminals

[floral acorn]

pnig ammopack_556

uplink_connect frog

... dont u dare say u havent done just that ever 🙂

[raven jungle]

do other utility items like glowsticks and lock melters show up in lists

[digital mural]

no

[raven jungle]

ah

looooool
LIST -A
"oh god"

whats a HSU?

[ocean spindle]

its a hydrostasis unit, basically a human sized tank

where a human is

[digital mural]

it looks like a big capsule

QUERY HSU_XXX

[raven jungle]

ah okay

[raven jungle]

okay be honest, does anyone actually use the long range flashlight

[digital mural]

yes

its actually pretty useful

best item in the game ;)

well, every item is useful

[raven jungle]

[digital mural]

seriously speaking the long range flaslight is useful when synching enemies or just trying to see a big area

[raven jungle]

why would i want something that absolutely lights up every clicker in a thousand foot cone?

[digital mural]

👆

[raven jungle]

hmmm i see

[digital mural]

[raven jungle]

wait what the heck this zone has two HSU_656's is that possible?

[digital mural]

no

every HSU has a different number

[ocean spindle]

u only need one of those

[ocean spindle]

think it can happen but it doesnt affect anythin

[digital mural]

it can?

holy shit

oh well, just get one

[ocean spindle]

i remember it happenin before on this chat but always only one its the specific one

[raven jungle]

bug must be then

[digital mural]

wait

[ocean spindle]

not really a bug just chance or whatev

[civic wave]

I think what happens is that the game adds a duplicate in the item list for some reason

but there's not actually a second hsu with the same number iirc

[summer echo]

its honestly very convenient to have around when not holding something like a cfoam nade or fog repeller

I like s e e i ng a l l

[stuck prairie]

Does reading a log count if someone in your group reads it or do you specifically have to use the command?

[tepid sand]

It’s teamwide

[dry pumice]

I do. Its amazing if you want to actually see.

It is seriously long range and it does something that causes artifacts and lockers to really pop into your eyes when you catch them.

Far harder to miss a rogue locker or box that way.

[raven jungle]

wait weapons can have negative precision multipliers??? as in its actually better to NOT hit the head with some guns?!

[dry pumice]

Enemies themselves have a massive weakpoint multiplier, so you're still in the green.

The worst one is Giant Strikers with x1.5 head weakness.

That means that guns with the worst precision stat (usually ~x0.75) will deal like... +10% extra damage.

Its not NEGATIVE damage, but its nothing to bother with either.

If you're a High Cal user - just shoot the main body and leave head for someone who cares.

[ocean spindle]

basically with some guns its not worth hittin headshots on most enemies, like hel rifle or yeah high cal

[dry pumice]

However there is an enemy type that does not have head weakness period.

But it applies to all guns, so...

[past mesa]

All guns in base game are better to shot head

[graceful nest]

Is it possible to matchmake with friends only

[ocean spindle]

just hosting a lobby, dont press the matchmaking option and then just invite your friends through steam or through the lobby code

[graceful nest]

I feel stupid ya I just realized there was a host option

Thanks

[ocean spindle]

its ok

[austere drum]

are there mods that can prevent you from getting achievements?

[raven jungle]

Oh of course there's headshot multipliers too so the negative precision damage is to offset the headshot bonus

That makes sense (I think it's a shotguns only thing)

[ocean spindle]

no it happens to a lot of guns

[raven jungle]

Well then

[ocean spindle]

high cal, hel rifle, machineguns, HAR, most autos tbh [tho with those u hit multiple pellets so its funky], slug shottie

[austere drum]

it was mtfo nm

[shadow pivot]

Thank you for your service.

[distant citrus]

whats the giant spawn cap? how many giants can be spawned at once?

[willow haven]

Does anyone know if bioscan speed boosters stack across teammates for full team scans?

[tepid sand]

It should

[tepid sand]

If we consider the overall enemy spawn cap to be roughly around 25, and each giant counts for +2, we get around 13 giants

[chilly narwhal]

Who else misses the OG burst cannon with the 5 round burst?

[neon gust]

Who else missws the OG har in the primary slot 😭😭🤯🤯🤯

Only real ones know

[raven jungle]

are maps procedurally generated?

[halcyon current]

Are there any weapons yall would recommend explicitly avoiding?

[native sun]

Short Rifle

[soft crater]

Short rifle

[halcyon current]

That it?

[native sun]

Yes and no. They are procedurally generated, but in 98% of levels there will be next to no variation in the level layout itself (just the placement of resources, keys etc. that move around).

[halcyon current]

Appreciate you both

[soft crater]

Any other hammer other than Maul

[halcyon current]

I like the knife tbh

[soft crater]

Use Maul

[halcyon current]

Por que?

Right now I use DTR/High Cal/Knife/Mines most of the time

[raven jungle]

just reading the wiki on how agro works... when clickers do the thing where they periodically glow, is that stage considered the soft alert stage? or is it when they start throbbing? basically what im trying to find out exactly is there are two clickers in front of me one is far off but within 15 meters. id i dome the one in front of me and the other one happens to be glowing at that moment would it become alerted from the long rane agro? and if i wait for it to stop glowing would it not be affected by that long range agro?

ah

[lost flame]

If it's just glowing and not the shaking pulsating statr and it's 15 whole meters, you should be fine by giving another a good wack

[raven jungle]

never mind i used my eyes and read more of the wiki ahahahah......

If another sleeper is glowing within 15 meters and has a line of sight on the sleeper being killed, it will wake up. This is the long range aggro.

literally directly answers my question 🥲

[lost flame]

Huh, I've had enemies not wake up after being killed even after waking up while being like 10 meters away

With direct line of sight

And glowing

[raven jungle]

theres a grace period if a second one was already alerted nearby from the one you killed, so if theres 2 right next to each other for example and one further out, then when you kill the first one, the proximity agro will wake the other nearby one, and since there has already been a sleeper awoken, the internal cooldown starts meaning that for a short period specificallt the long range agro wont wake anything up

proximity agro will always wake up everything close by though

The long-range aggro can not happen if at least one enemy already woke (either by the proximity aggro or by the long-range aggro), and have a grace period of few seconds after that. It means that unlike the proximity aggro, the long-range aggro can only wake up a single sleeper. It also means having two sleepers clustered is the best setup to ensure no other enemy will be awoken while dispatching them.

[lost flame]

Ah

Neat

[raven jungle]

new question... why did i only take 5% damage from that spitter that just shot me???

arent they meant to do 12%

sorry shooter not spitter

oh, nope they do actually do 5% xD its the other ones that do 12

[hazy wedge]

Sleeper licks deal 12 hp, shooter projectiles deal 5 hp ||(exception with nightmare variants)|| I think charger licks deal a bit more

[past mesa]

18

[hazy wedge]

[hidden ridge]

It's random

And if I remember correctly

The line of sight thing is dependant on if they've LoS towards the center of mass (slightly tilted) of the other sleeper

Or something along those lines

And killing an enemy that woke up due to range aggro is always a silent action IIRC

[digital wave]

there is a ultimate guide in steam says range aggro with LoS does not triggered 100% every time

[hidden ridge]

yes, as I said, AFAIK it's random

[silver fable]

on the development side, yes
the game engine uses seed values to randomly select and stitch together room tiles to form a zone, level designers reroll seeds until they get a zone they want
afaik they can then make alterations to the generated room layout, but I'm not familiar with the details
they still need to do a bunch of manual work to put content into the generated map
for players, the maps should never change, but there are a few rooms in a few levels in the game which will bug out and change between runs

if you want to know more (and get an explanation that does away with the mistakes I've surely made here) you could check the modding server

.t modding

[uneven gulch]

While we do allow the use of some QoL and visual mods, GTFO doesn't officially support modding. However, we do recognize that a GTFO modding community exists and if you are interested in them, you are welcome to check out the modding communities found in #hc-modded (If you have any more questions, please read rule #12 in the rules channel for more information.)

[safe drum]

is there a way to ask the game to give me lugubrious

[lone mortar]

there is a way

if you go in games chat and /give GTFO_palete_colours_5uCk_M@_4ICK

[safe drum]

uh

okay

[lone mortar]

trust

[safe drum]

whats this machinery

[slow stone]

mf using minecraft commands now

[olive robin]

There's a mod that gives you every unlock but you can't pick which it gives so you just get them all

[safe drum]

is it considered as cheating

also how does it give me all of them

[civic wave]

it's cosmetics only, so no

BUT COSMETICS DONT MATTER

[safe drum]

THEY DO

I GAME FOR THE COSMETICS

[civic wave]

then if you have them all, you no longer game

and you ruin everything

[safe drum]

i know...

that happened to me in nms

i used save editor

and i regret it 😔

i thought the mod lets you unlock older stuff by completing missions (gtfo mod)

no im not gonna download it

also are there cosmetics that are in the pool but you wont be able to get them because you have done all the missions

[slow stone]

yes

cosmetic pool is larger than amount of levels so some you just wont get

also there are some cosmetics like halloween ones that you cant get anymore

[lone mortar]

like i said

/give GTFO_palete_colours_5uCk_M@_4ICK

for lubringous

and for others its /give GTFO_palete_colours_Y0UR_M0M5_@_H05

[slow stone]

I will try this

It worked cant believe this!!

[safe drum]

wow....

didnt know there were slash commands in this game@@@

!!!!

ugh

[lone mortar]

yeah

if you want to quickly go up to the vets and look cool

use /effects cocaine

[safe drum]

is there a mod that lets you play with +4 ppl

like 8 ppl or 6 ppl

[lone mortar]

no

because that will cause modders to add in other characters

and significantly expand the size of levels and game time by x4

[safe drum]

is there a mod that lets you generate random rooms*

and random missions

[lone mortar]

yes

ask Jish

[safe drum]

jishlat

[lone mortar]

or better yet @sacred dew

[safe drum]

this guy pinged you jish

[slow stone]

The random room + random enemy + random objective combo 😳

[safe drum]

and new enemy types

[lone mortar]

snitch?

it is to be expected

[safe drum]

🥰

[summer echo]

What's the best melee to give bots rn? I assume it doesn't particularly matter because I keep hearing people mostly flipping between knife and hammer

[slow stone]

all melees do same thing on bots

so it doesnt matter what you give them

[summer echo]

Huh

Goofy

[trim rock]

Bots do 16 damage and charge melee for 2 seconds no matter what you give them

[summer echo]

👀
Good to know

[narrow light]

Hey can someone please help me out with a few issues I'm having? I keep crashing on startup, sometimes I get unity crash and other times it just crashes without any error. It takes a little while to startup and I get the first animation and then it will freeze again until crashing

[sacred dew]

???

Why am I pinged?

[past mesa]

i think someone ghost pinged a few people

[past mesa]

i was to

[soft crater]

It was Kaiser I'm pretty sure.

[soft crater]

Referencing this 👆

[sturdy owl]

what level offers the easiest scout practice? As in, shortest time/least pain in the ass before you can find a scout that's ready to get its head bopped. I can't remember the last scout we've managed to kill silently

[slow stone]

scouts Playground :)

[sturdy owl]

is that a mod?

[ocean spindle]

yeah

also r7b1 if by any reason u cant do mods

has 3 scouts in the start

[sturdy owl]

👀 forgot about mods thank you

thanks!

[distant citrus]

can you fidn the code for R8A2 secondary in the level itself? or is it hidden in another level(s)

?

[past mesa]

Other levels

[distant citrus]

grrr

which ones?

[stuck gull]

what does "C-Foam portion" mean on boosters?

does it affect the amount I shoot out? the amount I start with?

[distant citrus]

pretty sure the amount you start with

[stuck gull]

alr

thx

[ocean spindle]

do u want it?

[mossy aurora]

it affects the the cost per blob of cfoam. so normally if a full charge of cfoam takes 12 units of cfoam, having that booster will make a full charge use less tool

[distant citrus]

I just want hints if possible

[stuck gull]

ohhh ok

[ocean spindle]

ah ok i wont do the thing i ws gonna do then

good luck finding it !

[mossy aurora]

shooting 1 blob will still take one unit of cfoam though because of rounding

[distant citrus]

Any tips on where to start?

[floral acorn]

rundown 8, tier b. have fun 🙂

[ocean spindle]

i wanna say a traveler rhyme but tbh i am not even sure where it was

i think ik but i, forgot

[distant citrus]

the riddler

[ocean spindle]

||on the past that your forgot long ago||
||where gunshots just went back and forth||
||search on the paths that you walked||
||*and those that you neglected to pass *||

i hope it isnt too obvious

[floral acorn]

wow. * slow clap * .. nicely done 🙂

[ocean spindle]

:D

[floral acorn]

i sure hope this doesn't make it be too obvious indeed

" 😄 "

[ocean spindle]

:[

ok ill spoiler it

ill work on it

[safe drum]

Hey siri
Where r8a2 code
Gogl:

[ocean spindle]

qwq

ok ok i get it

[slow stone]

I think it was fine, didnt instantly know where

||mostly...||

[sturdy owl]

For anyone running mods: I keep seeing that BepInEx and MTFO "remove vanilla progression" but what does that mean? I just booted the game with BepInEx and all the same rundowns and cosmetics are unlocked

[slow stone]

it basically means running vanilla and modded in another instance with both having thei own progressions

You can use bepinex with some qol mods and it will still count for vanilla but especially MTFO will move it to modded instance

once you switch back to vanilla you will have your original unlocks back

[floral acorn]

ummm

mtfo doesnt do that anymore unless u localprogression..

[safe drum]

MTFO?

Omg gtfo and scps are in the same dimension 😱

[sturdy owl]

ah ok, I saw something say i needed to remove a file from bepinex to make it work with vanilla progression. but maybe it's automatic or something. I see when i load scout playground (uses MTFO) it says MODDED in the lower right. Is that how I know if I'm not progressing in vanilla?

[floral acorn]

if u just install a qol mod with bepinex and mtfo comes with it, u basically launch vanilla and u can progress normally thru levels. u do get clears and cosmetics. what u wont get is achievements, unless u edit mtfo.cfg to enable them. then u get those too.

[slow stone]

huh I thought mtfo + gtfo api made it modded

[floral acorn]

it does and did until alt r1 or r2, mtfo used to set rundown id 1 and not report clears.. nowadays it does, except when u delib install localprog to make it local

[slow stone]

does this mean I could have used the mlem mod on vanilla the whole time 😭

[floral acorn]

yes

[sturdy owl]

for both MTFO and BepInEx, are achievements disabled? Not sure how to check

[slow stone]

in mtfo config you can see this, it is disabled as default

[sturdy owl]

also not sure how to remove specific files from mods like BepInEx. I just want to use the kill indicator client fix mod, which requires BepInEx but apparently not the dll that affects progression

[floral acorn]

install mtfo, hit profile folder, goto bepinex/config/mtfo.cfg and see the setting as true.. false it. more help happily given on the modding server

[sturdy owl]

modding discord server? where 👀

[slow stone]

I never could truly get it to work reliably tbh

[floral acorn]

#hc-modded

[soft crater]

.t modding

[uneven gulch]

While we do allow the use of some QoL and visual mods, GTFO doesn't officially support modding. However, we do recognize that a GTFO modding community exists and if you are interested in them, you are welcome to check out the modding communities found in #hc-modded (If you have any more questions, please read rule #12 in the rules channel for more information.)

[soft crater]

hm I see it was 2 hours ago

oh well

[hazy wedge]

Goob job Solace

[soft crater]

debating if I really want to GTFO tonight

[cinder merlin]

Will there be a rundown 9? or any other?

[tepid sand]

Nope, R8 is the last

[lone mortar]

GTFO now?

[cinder merlin]

damn son

[digital wave]

you will get to play new game made by same devs: Den of Wolves if you like

[velvet dagger]

if you use the disinfect station in d1, does it invalidate the no medi/disinfect achievement? or is it just consumable

[sharp tangle]

So every now and then when I watch folks who post their runs on YouTube I have noticed that Shadow enemies are much more clear and discernable from their point of view. Is there a setting tweak I am missing out on?

[lone mortar]

Still counts

It is “use any disinfectant”

[hazy wedge]

What is your shadow resolution

[sharp tangle]

High

[hazy wedge]

High or above should make shadows easy to spot

[distant citrus]

Anyone know how long one scan is? Is one big circle equivalent to four little ones? Timings?

[past mesa]

IT DEPENDS

[distant citrus]

How long does a cfoam load on a door last?

[native sun]

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Alarms#Bioscan_Sequences

[distant citrus]

Tysn

[native sun]

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Doors#Damaging

[halcyon current]

Till it gets destroyed, I believe

What's the max hypothetical kills per mag on the carbine?

[distant citrus]

Awesome 💖

[native sun]

8 on strikers. If you perfectly switch targets mid burst.

[fierce walrus]

(which is unlikely)

[native sun]

6 is more realistic, 2-bursting each of them. 4 is a good base-line, 3-bursting each of them.

[halcyon current]

Ty, that seems unlikely all the time tho

I'm pretty good with the DTR, I can consistently get 5-7 kills out of its mag

But DTR doesn't involve mid burst swap

[tardy ingot]

Read through it (out of curiosity). It says bigger team scans behave the same as normal ones. But arent they generally slower in progress?

[tardy ingot]

7 is litteraly the limit

on absolutely perfect play

[sturdy glen]

you will go far in this game

[tardy ingot]

^ thats no longer just pretty good

[native sun]

Some bioscan sequences feature enlarged team scans, these behave identically to a regular team scan, except that the area they cover is larger and that they generally take longer to complete.
wdym?

[tardy ingot]

I mightve legit just missread

early mornin brain go brrrr

[finite oracle]

ive seen some people use certain filter commands on the terminal how do those work? like for example i saw something like “filter u e_21”

[native sun]

Each filter filters everything to things only containing that filter.

So only things that contain "U" and "e_21" would appear

In practice, this limits it to resoUrces (as well as other key items like secUrity (keys) and Uknown (cells and generators)) in zonE_21

[finite oracle]

so i were to type for example “filter medipack e_20” it would look for all medipacks in zone_20 for example?

[native sun]

And doesn't show things like lockers and boxes or doors, since these count as storage (no U there)

Correct!

You can match on the item's name (like medipack_123), its type (like resources, security, etc.) and its zone (zone_123, etc.)

[finite oracle]

if you type “filter resources” does it show you all available resources? is it the same as “filter u”?

[sharp tangle]

I was playing with a group from the discord the other day and one of the players was urging us not to kill any enemies right as we finished an alarm because it was going to spawn an additional wave iirc... can someone explain this to me?

[native sun]

It would show all the resources in the entire level. You could do LIST RESOURCES ZONE_123 to do just the resources in Zone_123

[finite oracle]

ok, ty

[native sun]

Full waves can only spawn if there is enough room for them. This generally means there has to be fewer than 5-10 enemies alive. If you keep those enemies alive, no new wave can spawn.

Most of the time those enemies are a bit threatening and you really ought to kill them, but if you're very near the end of a scan, it may be worthwhile leaving them alive as long as possible to try and block another full wave.

[tepid sand]

Be aware that the new rundown does mess with the command a little since some zones have names now

[sharp tangle]

Thank you for the informative answer, I appreciate you!

[native sun]

This is also why c-foam is kinda giga-busted. Leaves the enemies alive for a really long time, so no new ones get to spawn.

[sacred dew]

Increase the cap to 35 instead of 25

[trim rock]

Buff surges

[craggy pier]

How hard is r4d1 secondary

we did main and i would not like to die

[slow stone]

It's fine just make sure you have some ammo

[craggy pier]

okay

that's what we doin

[slow stone]

Great, the zones may or may not have 3 of some enemy type

And because the zones have barely any ammo bring some with you

[trim rock]

If all else fails, GTFO, close door behind you, sit on extraction

[slow stone]

Did r4d1 have an error when reactor is done btw?

[safe drum]

Does it matter

Just escape

[slow stone]

If it doesn't then the secondary is easiest thing ever

[waxen beacon]

Nope

[slow stone]

Well then there's no problem, just a little sneak

[trim rock]

What sneak? || The rooms wake up on their own. ||

[slow stone]

Sneak so the enemies don't see you, sekiro style :)

Hide in the shadows and strike when they don't expect it

[safe drum]

Shadows hide in the light

[craggy pier]

we gave up and just left

we kept accidentally peaking moms

[dry pumice]

Which ones and where

[slow stone]

The 1 or 2

[craggy pier]

2

[dry pumice]

R4D1?

[craggy pier]

yes

[dry pumice]

Fuck, i forgot that level... Uh... Rising fog and constantly growing alarms or is that D2?

[slow stone]

Just have 2 people beaming the babies and 2 shooting tumors

[craggy pier]

no d1 is reactor and

mommies

for secondary

[dry pumice]

Ohhhh, yeah, i remember

[safe drum]

single moms in your area

[slow stone]

Scattergun my beloved

[dry pumice]

Cute level, didn't gave me too much trouble.

I imagine secondary is basically free these days with scattergun around

[craggy pier]

moms gave us trouble

[civic wave]

Rip burst cannon, rip 1 mag mom in fast time

[craggy pier]

because its instant weake

[dry pumice]

Yep.

HEL sentry could come in useful. Just gotta survive the initial rush.

[floral acorn]

we had 3 already in a good spot and 1 tripped the door and ran to them, ez

[dry pumice]

Then just bumrush and scattergun up her ass

[craggy pier]

at least we did main

[slow stone]

Well yeah since moms don't start spawning before they see you you can kinda make strategies

[craggy pier]

now i can do d2 and e1 i think?

[dry pumice]

The problem is not having enough ammo and or tool for the secondary. Reactor eats it almost completely, especially if you are not doing well

E1 requires D2 first

[slow stone]

So you can hide behind a corner waiting for them to come at you

[dry pumice]

D2 is... Annoying.

[slow stone]

That's kinda a thing in r4e1 place a cfoam trip mine and go hide

[floral acorn]

exactly, u can even place sentries to harrass the procrastinating birther hovering 1 room away .. then when she finally musters up courage to come, she's already mucho weakened

[dry pumice]

First 20 minutes are chill and then the following 30 are hell

[safe drum]

which mission are you guys talking about

that one 30 minutes that you have to survive

[floral acorn]

i'm actually glad they buffed r4d2 last alarm door, now the progression is linear

[craggy pier]

i mean

we did trip 5 scouts

in that last room

mistake by yours truly

[floral acorn]

but r4d2 is in the same binder as r2d2 for me .. the never-again-club founding manifesto

[safe drum]

i need the turtle neck torso

whats it called

[native sun]

Regular alarms don't need a spawn cap, the threat of enemies crashing your PC is what gives you the incentive to kill them.

[tardy ingot]

i dont see how you can be actually low on ammo on R4D1 the zones have so much ammo even if you fully pull all the scouts at the end

[civic wave]

^

You effectively get 7 zones full of resources for reactor itself, 1 zone with few resources, and then after you're done you have another zone full of loot + another zone with few resources

[topaz anvil]

R4d2 is one of the few levels I'd replay indefinitely

[floral acorn]

i toast my drink to our disagreement then 🙂

[slow stone]

What's that one again?

[floral acorn]

overload, pickup cargo, error begins

put cargo down, error doubles

[slow stone]

The charger one?

[floral acorn]

alarm doors class 3 4 5 6 7 8 for main

[slow stone]

ooh yeah that one

[floral acorn]

then when all done, go back for cargo, outwalk the shadow error etc

[slow stone]

I was thinking ab the charger hsu level with tank

[floral acorn]

it's not a bad level per se, it's just r4-style.. so very, very long

[topaz anvil]

You could speed it up if you pick cargo before going through main

[floral acorn]

gaah

[slow stone]

yes and have a fun shadow error behind you 👍

[topaz anvil]

It's the easiest shadow error I've seen

Shadows are slow and get stuck everywhere

[floral acorn]

doesn't it worsen the error if cargo is put down by carrier outside of overload zone?

[topaz anvil]

It used to, dunno if it still does

[floral acorn]

oh well, u've done it and much respect for that.. just feels about 17 miles above skill level 😄

[slow stone]

Even better since shadows are so slow have someone kite them for the whole run (expect doors)

this way not many chargers will spawn :)

[topaz anvil]

I want to do it

[distant citrus]

does a sleeper "know" if a door is foamed? will they path to a non-foam door instead of a foam door

[soft kiln]

no

[ocean spindle]

it depends on the spawnpoint and tile but generally they go to open doors

i wanna say yes, but i am not sure

[soft kiln]

he is asking about foamed door vs normal closed door

[ocean spindle]

yeah ik but thats why i mention it cause they can repath to open doors but i am not sure of just closed doors

[jaunty latch]

they know if its opened or closed thats it

sometimes they will decide to ignore it and bash down another path anyway though

[hidden ridge]

If they spawn close enough to a closed door they want to break it no matter what

Also I THINK (not sure) that their pathing takes distance from point of entry to closest door to enter the room the players are in without counting actual travel distance

Which would explain why they go for bottom door on R1B1's second alarm if both doors are closed

Or other weird things I saw on OG R6C1's alarm before giant zone

[jaunty latch]

im still pretty sure they have something telling them to rarely go somewhere else

[hidden ridge]

They 100% ignore foam anyway

[jaunty latch]

just m o s t of the time they wont

[hidden ridge]

Just check if closed/opened

[soft kiln]

they don't go to the closest point of entry
In the case of two opened door with similar time for them to walk to they pick the one which player is closer to
so they actually calculate based on the time to get to the player current position instead of the room

[hidden ridge]

Are you sure? I remember trying solo to hug top door on R1B1 and they still went for bottom

[soft kiln]

yes and I dropped to R1B1

[hidden ridge]

But for 2 closed doors they do?

[soft kiln]

however this is not some useful mechanics to remember cause most of the time we would leave only one open door to funnel

they would go for the closest entry point if both doors are closed

because they can't calculate the closest path to any of their target

with doors in their way

in that case yes they would go to the closest door

[hidden ridge]

Thanks for the info

[craggy pier]

what happens in r8e2 when the timer runs out

[civic wave]

surge alarm of dolt heads

or permanent error, whatever

basically nightmares out the ass

[fast ferry]

will using betterbots and pingeverything affect progression in the game?

[floral acorn]

no

[ocean spindle]

no but idk why would u use those ever

[fast ferry]

maybe because im tired of the bots walking behind me constantly and shaving off half my health

and them just reviving me instead of killing off the last 2 guys

[ocean spindle]

better bots its not some funky new aditions its literally gettin carried mega heavily by bots
if bots keep shootin u in duos, get em the right weapons so at least they dont do much dmg and always check ur positioning

[fast ferry]

dont know what you mean about getting carried mega heavily

theyre not even that much better, if at all

[ocean spindle]

like u can wake any room and just, walk and let em take care of it, even the heaviest
idk how much they changed on the last... month i guess but everyone always said the same thing

they woke a heavy enemy or miniboss and they didnt even shot it and the bots just did by themselves

[fast ferry]

huh? they barely helped me during an alarm 3

[fierce walrus]

Better bots barely helped?

[ocean spindle]

barely?

then the normal bots were already carryin u or somethin

[patent silo]

how to remove the isolation mode at the R8B2 level ?

[fast ferry]

didnt seem to be doing much

barely seen them kill a thing or two

if anything theyve friendly fired me to no tomorrow with the mod

[ocean spindle]

how even

what guns do u have in em?

[fast ferry]

gavem them hel revolvers and machine cannons

they used them very well before

[fierce walrus]

Huh

i mean i know better bots had their aim hacks toned down a bit

[ocean spindle]

machinecannon- i guess machinegun

[fierce walrus]

but that doesnt seem like better bots behavior

frankly… that seems as if they didnt do shit

[fast ferry]

well

they didnt do shit

[fast talon]

why dont you get a damage indicator and test if the better bots actually let them do more dmg?

[fierce walrus]

Better bots dont affect damage as far as im concerner, they improve their aim, make them open lockers and prevent friendly fire (i think)

[fast ferry]

plot twist

it does not prevent friendly fire

we got friendly fired harder than before

[fierce walrus]

you sure you maybe just didnt notice?

[fast ferry]

they literally kept downing themselves

[fierce walrus]

Huh

[fast ferry]

dont ask me man, they downed themselves 3 times eacch

[fierce walrus]

you sure you turned the mod on?

[fast ferry]

yep

[fierce walrus]

wtf regular bots barely ever friendly fire each other

[fast ferry]

thats what im saying

meanwhile now i wasnt even in front of them and they friendly fired me 3 times in a row

enemy was to my left, they were to my left

i wasnt even in between them and i just get domed in the back of the head

"look at the flowers" ahh execution

[fierce walrus]

Sure it wasnt your teammate?

[fast ferry]

sure because they kept doing it the entire rundown

[fierce walrus]

Weird

this is a bit extreme of mod talk but

you used thunderstore for better bots?

[fast ferry]

r2modman

[slow stone]

Oh I've been downed by bb lots of times

[fierce walrus]

Might be an issue with R2? But im not well experienced in better bots

[slow stone]

Nuh uh

[fast ferry]

weve had more friendly fire in this one singular rundown with bb than r1, r2 and half of r3 combined

[slow stone]

I personally have some mods including it straight on game files and they do Damage

And it indeed works otherwise as intended

[fast ferry]

theyre out for blood man 😭

they takin revenge for all the times i didnt heal them

[slow stone]

Should revive

[fast ferry]

either way im unistalling the mod and going back to the old loadout i had on em

mastaba revolver all the way

[dry pumice]

which one, lul

[fast ferry]

special one

r66 or whatever its called

[dry pumice]

Yeah

[slow stone]

Yes r66

[dry pumice]

What went wrong again?

[slow stone]

Betterbots did dmg to team

[fast ferry]

the bots were out for blood

they shot me 5 times, my friend i dont even know, more than me and each of them downed the other 3 times

chat was just "dauda is downed"

"dauda is revived"

"hackett is downed"

[soft crater]

Bot: not my they stood in the line of fire

[ocean spindle]

tbh even on a duo and even with bots just sounds too excessive

i woulnt doubt its some friend shootin em for the fun

... also bots are bad with the revolver

[fast talon]

I dont really have an issue on bot friendly fire, i just hate when they always rush in front of your gun and dead instantly

[fast ferry]

ah yes of course its just my friend shooting me for fun when i can literally see my friend in front of me while im getting pegged by the bot

[dry pumice]

The importance of backpedalling so that bots do all the job

Also you give them shit weapons for this reason

[fast ferry]

im fine with backpedalling but we often set up choke points and its tiring having the bot walk specifically behind me out of all places and just shoot me

[summer echo]

Is sniper still worth taking for levels with ||the kraken||

[civic wave]

||eh, not really. Precision rifle has similar efficiency but sucks less for the rest of the level/the rest of the enemy types (maybe excluding giants or snatchers)||

[ocean spindle]

uhh one person with it its fine, snipers meh but still useful for some situations i guess

[ocean spindle]

does it deal like same amount of dmg

i mean no i guess no but like how muchs the difference

[slow stone]

I was told that scatter is valid option for kraken, is this true?

like scatter > sniper type?

[trim rock]

@ocean spindle The betterbots 100% accuracy is disabled by default

[ocean spindle]

ifo?

[trim rock]

in newest version

[ocean spindle]

is there any major changes with it that makes it not bullshit

apart from that one

[trim rock]

Its balanced unless you go full cringe and turn the accuracy on

They do tend to teleport on top of shit and get stuck tho kek

[slow stone]

this is true, annoying if they get stuck behing alarm doors / on roofs / on top of boxes

[tardy ingot]

No since range

[past mesa]

On a certain kracken scatter is fine

[tardy ingot]

obviously not

but it kills kraken only a bit slower while having actual uses as a gun

[slow stone]

too bad that I usually never run it anyways then

[ocean spindle]

i realized my stupid question and corrected it later lol

[dry pumice]

PR is like 520 dmg per mag and sniper is like 530, among those lines. Not worth it.

[summer echo]

My first run with that mod I started an alarm sequence and the bot teleported behind the door and couldn't reach the full team scan

It was something

[ocean spindle]

welp

[trim rock]

10/10 they do phase back through tho if you get away from the door

[ocean spindle]

tbh havin that mod why would u not, i see a lot of people just sayin 'it will not affect it that much'

and then just

same as ever

[slow stone]

PR also does around 66% more dps btw

[trim rock]

I mean if you get carried by literal bots and find the gameplay enjoyable then who am I to judge

(Not targeted at Slendi, just in general)

[past mesa]

Batter bots with aim bot literally allows you to hold a and win

Any level doesn’t matter

[tardy ingot]

Huh what

theres no way you empty prec rifle mag before sniper mag no?

[trim rock]

The aimbot is so broken you can walk through r2e1 without firing a bullet kek

[tardy ingot]

a o.O?

wouldnt it be w

which is funny since you get a free W

[past mesa]

Na you could hold a

s even

[tardy ingot]

s for being Shit

[pearl plume]

real

[ocean spindle]

walk backwards always

[slow stone]

according to wiki:

PR:
Rate of fire 214.29 RPM
DPS 46.43 DPS

Sniper:
Rate of fire 46.15 RPM
DPS 30.78 DPS

tho of course sniper has better total dmg

[tardy ingot]

is this adjusting for precision

doesnt seem like it

[slow stone]

Yes truly not broken having bots kill enemies the ms they wake up and shoot them the ms they are withing los

[tardy ingot]

gotta remember the tumors of kraken are precision multiplied

so in „theory“ they are basically equal

but you usually wouldnt go full auto full auto on PR but be takig miniscule extra time

then again. If sniper misses once (aim punch lol) you goofed

its why prec rifle > sniper for kraken generally

[surreal lake]

Wait isn't PR actually goated at killing hybrids

how have I not tried this

[slow stone]

that is true, forgot ab that

[dry pumice]

Uhhh, not quite...

[slow stone]

Hopefully I calculated this right, but that way sniper dps would be 61.56 and PR would be 60.359 so it would be better actually

[tardy ingot]

eeeeh

[dry pumice]

hybrid heads are x3, right?

[surreal lake]

Its 5 shots no? Or is it too difficult in practice

2x

[tardy ingot]

I wouldnt call 5 headshots goated

sniper might be trash

but its 1 HS

choke mod is 2 hs and a body shot

[dry pumice]

it might be 3 shots, actually

but need to confirm i don't remember multipliers

[tardy ingot]

Artek its 2x dmg for hybrid heads

[dry pumice]

Fuck, only 2

[tardy ingot]

i dunno what im more concerned about

you not rembering that multi
Or you believing i wouldnt

[hazy wedge]

What's PR's prec multi

[tardy ingot]

1,3x