#gtfo-related-questions

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narrow niche
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Hm

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When in doubt bring scatter uwu

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Trust

slim viper
narrow niche
past parrot
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How do you dodge again?

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I saw they added it tryna figure out how it works

minor fractal
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Shift while moving left, right, or backwards.

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It eats stamina for very little value, probably don't use it.

jaunty latch
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you might be able to use it to get out of being beat to death by chargers

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buti deally you dont get into that situation to begin with

tepid sand
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Just shove

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Shove doesn’t consume stamina

jaunty latch
tepid sand
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I don’t think dodging would even help in that case either

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You’d still be in range for melee attack I believe

upper ginkgo
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has the dodge always been this small?
i remember it covering way more distance in og

jaunty latch
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backwards is far enough to not get slapped

sturdy glen
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bro hes slapping into your ass

jaunty latch
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sideways isnt and I have no idea when you would ever use that

tepid sand
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Backwards is even worse

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You’d still be hit

sturdy glen
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besides, if youre dodging a giant charger youre going to the side anyways

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mf overshoots you

tepid sand
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^

jaunty latch
tepid sand
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It would still beat you

sturdy glen
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dodging backwards more likely to make you take 2 hits

tepid sand
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Dodging would not help

sturdy glen
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instead of just the 1

jaunty latch
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idk why, its not going to instantly try to tongue you

fathom whale
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question for whoever knows

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why does my game only show the r8 levels a1 b1 b2 c1 d1 e1

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and i can visibly see others playing a2 b3 b4 etc

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is it a beta or something

ocean spindle
shrewd dirge
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Anyone been able to kill|| the new scout without foam, wave call?||

ocean spindle
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ive seen people do it melee

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problem is they like turn on at the speed of light

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so runnin while their tentacles are out its very risky

sturdy glen
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I dont think they mean the ||crawlers||

ocean spindle
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oh

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i got semi spoiled?

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eh its fine

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still a mystery lol

sturdy glen
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rip

copper nymph
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Scattergun fixed everything

neon slate
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solve your dirty dishes with the brand new Scatter gun

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BANG BANG BANG

wild goblet
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anyone here from DFW want to game sometime soon?

ocean spindle
mossy aurora
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In texas

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Dallas fort worth

topaz anvil
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So true

mossy aurora
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🤠

earnest compass
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Why would I use the revolver over the HEL gun?

robust lintel
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you're cracked at landing headshots and want the higher ammo + greater potential ROF

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0.2s charge-up is kinda alot

mossy aurora
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Revolver has a disgusting reload animation cancel too

earnest compass
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oh true

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i just looked at the new reload animation

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it's super cool

robust lintel
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yeah that gun just doesnt stop firing lmao

earnest compass
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fair

mossy aurora
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If you're expecting to hold waves of anything but mostly smalls there isn't a good reason to take revolver imo

earnest compass
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The HEL Gun has greater than 15 damage so it can break a giant limb in one shot

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At least I think giant limbs have 15 health

robust lintel
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hel gun giant limb break is so good it's a valid justification to just bring 4 for every mission

silver fable
upper ginkgo
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if 10cc balances around pickrate, why hasn't revolver been buffed already

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16 damage and better flashlight pls

hardy grotto
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it’s just a distant dream vox

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No revo meta Sadge

austere cloak
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what is the "dodge mechanice" at patchnote???

grand sun
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Does the sawn-off count as a pistol? Seems like a dumb question, but I just want to be sure. Trying to do the pistols only achievement.

hidden ridge
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Is a car an airplane but for the ground? 🤔

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What's a Boeing if not a bus for the skies?

next pasture
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Ok I just joined this discord: where do I go for voice groups for the easiest rundown level? also, is the easiest rundown A1 or something else?

hidden ridge
next pasture
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ok, do I just use the in game matchmaking system to find an R1A1 lobby then?

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And then join their voicechat, or do I need to find the voicechat group here first, and then join the lobby after that?

dry pumice
uneven gulchBOT
dry pumice
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Go to id:customize and see that you have access to those.
Then just go to those channels (either #lfg-beginners or your area) and search for someone hosting A1 or host it yourself.

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@lilac fulcrum when "Controlled Response" ach says "complete expedition alone with only pistols and revolvers" does it means what i think it means?
Actual literal solo?

silver fable
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sounds like a super fun achievement

dry pumice
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Sound like a pain in my fuckin' A

fierce walrus
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mm got a rework?

dry pumice
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Running calculations on what B level out there is not fuckin' bullshit for me...

tardy ingot
strange jolt
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whats the best level to do that and no flash

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tried r6 and was not that fun

dry pumice
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Probably something like R1B1 or B2.

silver fable
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r6b1 hel revo high cal

dry pumice
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R1B1 is like super easy

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And you can use a sentry, so that makes things easier

strange jolt
silver fable
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you can use a sentry on lots of solos

silver fable
strange jolt
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i closed big door and let them stack (very smart)

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i got it but took a lot longer than what i thought it would take

silver fable
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r6b1 was my coming of age solo

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might be my favourite level tbh

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it's where I earnt my waveclear chops

brisk swift
# dry pumice R1B1 is like super easy

I did r1b1 with Hel revo, high cal, burst sentry, free af. There’s only one class 2 you need to do to complete the level outside of some stealth which isn’t too bad, was like 25 mins total

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Also no error alarm

tardy ingot
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R1B1 if you just wanna solo. You only need to do 1 alarm

After that theres 2 scouts you could meet or just perma sneak lol.

If flashlight achievement, probably R6B1 florkShrug1 let burst sentry carry

brisk swift
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Doing flashlight cheevo with a team is pretty ez on r2b1 as well, one of the faster b levels out there

brisk swift
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Haven’t you found it?

verbal zinc
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WHERE IS MY LORE

brisk swift
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LOOK HARDER

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surely it’s not a bug

dry pumice
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oh god

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no flashlight is such bullshit

brisk swift
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187 gang where u at

dry pumice
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its engrained into me to spam F

brisk swift
dry pumice
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yep, that's what i'm gonna do

lilac fulcrum
verbal zinc
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Maybe it's time to double check, Ben

lilac fulcrum
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technicalyl there are 192 as there are 4 dupes (but the dupes don't count twice)

brisk swift
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Theres 6 dupes from what I saw

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I’d be happy to name them all later

hidden ridge
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or pull everything else, who cares

brisk swift
dry pumice
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Alright.

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NOW I hate the "new lighting"

brisk swift
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Let’s go run every level again

dry pumice
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WTF is this pitch darkness

verbal zinc
dry pumice
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@lilac fulcrum am i allowed to use Long Range Flashlight at least orrrrr

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the one fucking time glowsticks are like gold and i can't find ONE

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I think i'm getting tilted....

hidden ridge
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"like gold"?

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R2B1 barely has any stealth

topaz anvil
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?

dry pumice
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i really hope burst pistol counts

brisk swift
silver fable
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r6b1 class 5 with hel revo + high cal + burst sentry was fun

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done, fun achievement for sure

brisk swift
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Here is a complete list of the log contentI found to be duplicated @lilac fulcrum:
CJ9-GVT-ERB: Appears on R6B2 and R7A1
98R-T5B-N57: Appears on R7D1 and R7D2
60F-056-HNK: Appears on R7E1, R7E1 (again), and R8B3 (the content is different here)

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There's about 15 or so whose names are duplicates between R6, 7, and 8, but their content seems to differ, so I did not list them here. That said, I'm tired after looking for 188 and mysteriously not finding one, so I'm gonna wait for a statement, fix, or tracker

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I should add that I did count and access a total of 192 logs as well, and I kept track of each one's name. It’s not impossible that I made a mistake along the way, but this seems like it is bugged.

fathom shell
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how do the dodge mechanic work ?

floral acorn
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hold d button strafing right, tap shift. u dodge. with huge stamina hit.

digital mural
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if i get a log
and then leave the expedition
does it still counts for the achivement?

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stabby stab

hidden ridge
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I think you need to either win or all die and go back to lobby

fathom shell
digital mural
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and now its back

indigo herald
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what does artifact heat and booster result mean at the start of the drop?

floral acorn
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gone or just reduced to insignificance, said it broke

digital mural
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thanks Sleepo

fathom shell
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ok

digital mural
rose stirrup
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how can one explain me sightrange of sleepers when neutral?

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sometimes they aggro across the room when killed one of them<sometimes they don't see killing right infront

floral acorn
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remote wakeups have always been a thing. i myself attribute it to sleepers actually in scanning state but due to distance, their animation / glow is not visible. from afar, the glow only shows at the end of their scan.

rose stirrup
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wait..they don't see entire zone in moment of scan?
or i did not understand something right

floral acorn
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just LRF / good flashlight sync sleepers around a few times, wait for them to go back down and start popping. not 100% guarantee of no remote wakes but reduces chance at least. (heh long range flashlight as LFG, lulz)

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there is a distance to hearing / seeing but sometimes it works a little funky, they shouldnt be able to hear/see but still get pissed

rose stirrup
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also
is there a way to dispose of scout without alerting horde?

floral acorn
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try sneak close, melee its head off, then fully stop flashlight off. with any luck the nearest sleeper will not wake, just pulse a bit (knife users need the back of head ofc)

rose stirrup
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i mean

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i tried to find """"Head"""" but most of the time he became blue and screamed

floral acorn
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if knife, u need to get behind, full stab the back of head, if possible even jump and stab the back top of head

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aim high, not over but top 1/3

rose stirrup
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hammer

floral acorn
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full charge, wait for scout to be in range, aim reticle at forehead, release .. if u too far away, u hit chest/neck/shoulder, if too close, "she" bumped into u and got pissed

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the range u learn in time, just get hours and scouts start dying consistently

tardy ingot
floral acorn
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most frustrating is when u sync with a light and u can see light touching every enemy .. .. but not all of them react. then when the rest go back to sleep, that one non-reacter then starts gurgling. meh.

regal heron
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why are people saying R8B3-4?

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they dont exist

winged turtle
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dw about it

digital mural
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i used it since idk how to explain it myself

craggy pier
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Any tips for r8c1 PE?

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I heard that you can start the terminal, then let timer end, unlock every door, explore freely, and then finish it

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So you don't need to rush the entire thing while defending 87 giants

craggy pier
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Do you have to start the terminal to unlock the doors

digital mural
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yes

craggy pier
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Ok

craggy pier
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Wouldn't you

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But then you have a wave on your ass forever

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And you need to deal with scouts

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In rooms with sleepers

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It's a recipe for disaster

latent cedar
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@brisk swift R7C2 outside, log:
D3T-INI-FNI

digital mural
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wait

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so there is a log missing?

latent cedar
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@ Ben, @ Fireblade, @amber phoenix and me are all 187 logs

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from what I understand

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Although I think Ben and Fireblade have the logs that DoggyDoge and I found, and vice versa

craggy pier
soft crater
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Is it just me or is your hands holding revolver placed higher up.

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(I noticed this at release of R8 but never got around to asking)

dry pumice
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Maybe... Don't use the gun enough.

soft crater
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The reload did get touched yesterday

silver fable
soft crater
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Which I haven't looked at yet

soft crater
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I've stated it every now and then how I've been using revolver as well

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Even my profile is related to revo

dry pumice
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Not a fan of the break points

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14 is just... Blergh.

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Don't like small mags either

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The only revolver I respect is Half Life one

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And the one from EYE Divine Cybermancy

soft crater
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Me liking the ones in hunt showdown

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But I Fucking HATE that they decided to lock it at 1/3 crosshair positioning

hidden ridge
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Or you mean to stall the timer and use that time to unlock everything?

dry pumice
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I didn't even noticed if waves can be delayed in any way. They seem to just keep coming.

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If there is a way to make a breathing room - I'd like to know it.

fleet shadow
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I'm having smth of a loadout crisis and would love some advice: the team I run w generally has a bioscan guy (HEL revo + HEL gun), a scout kill guy (pistol + precision), a wave clear guy (heavy SMG + arbalist V). What would you recommend I run to fill out my team the best?

neon gust
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giant killing

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scout killing guy its wave clear too

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A burst canon comes in handy

fleet shadow
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thats generally what ive tried to run in the past, though i havent tried BC in a long time

neon gust
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its good

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but yeah giant killing its always good to have

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it gives breathing room

fleet shadow
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i suppose the primary doesnt matter too too much does it? mostly a preference thing?

neon gust
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pretty much

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i choose my primary either by how im feeling or how the level plays out

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if its good a lot of shooters etc

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or the envioroment

fleet shadow
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can the BC handle scouts? i also would be curious if the HEL gun can too

hardy grotto
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Bc destroys scouts

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Hel gun can be pretty good too, one taps normal scouts to occi

fleet shadow
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sounds like a solid enough pick then, thanks

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generally, what is the meta these days for those various roles? im just interested is all

tardy ingot
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well while its nice to fill some of these roles, a lot of guns work for multiple things and so overall you just kinda bring a mix if the level needs it.
If you are interested in an overall meta, theres (hopefully) gonna be an updated tierlist on it KEKLEO

But yea, its not that easy to say. As a lot of stuff depends on the situation/enemies/player

soft crater
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Solo players: there are roles?

fleet shadow
silver fable
tardy ingot
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i honest to god think thats not the meta

hardy grotto
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scattergun hel gun burst cannon

silver fable
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but other specials are viable for sure

tardy ingot
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are hel gun and scatter rly fucking good and probably the 2 best weapons

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yes

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but id probably not take 3 hel guns

hardy grotto
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I think running too many of the same gun is just not worth

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Even if it is hel gun

tardy ingot
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the hel guns kinda wanna do the same thing so you just do less

soft crater
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Me wanting to see Mako's "Stagger the world" redeem

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Iirc everyone takes a specific loadout

silver fable
tardy ingot
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take out 1-2 hel guns

silver fable
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(I'm not attached to that loadout fwiw)

tardy ingot
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input something depending on level

hardy grotto
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I’m ok with 2 hel guns

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burst cannon is a good addition

tardy ingot
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a combat shotty/veruta to focus on short range so hel guns can ignore anything thats close

burst cannon to deal with giants and scouts

prec rifle for kraken (and maybe some shadow heavy levels i guess) and scouts

hardy grotto
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tbh do you even need a combat shotty or anything like that

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hel shotgun exists

tardy ingot
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well we talking specials rn

hardy grotto
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hel shotgun hel gun goes crazy

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well yea but I don’t think you ignore the other gun in that discussion

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it still plays a part

tardy ingot
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ye

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but theres levels where stuff is more close ranged
so a hel shotty/combat shotty loadout would have more value

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plus taking hel shotty means no hel revo

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which is its own trade off

hardy grotto
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the r2e1 double shotgun carry…

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a classic

tardy ingot
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you know, i legit dont know if you are sarcastic d4rkevBlank

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fuck text

hardy grotto
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when I played with nuggie and joe for the very first time I busted out the hel shotgun combat shotgun and I kinda thrived

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It was a funny time

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so it’s the double shotgun carry

tardy ingot
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the loadout also unironically functions super well with a hel gun user

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you can afk until stuff gets close and they will deal with shooters for you :^ )

hardy grotto
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it’s pretty good

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I feel like my loadouts recently have just been 2 hel gun 1 burst cannon 1 scattergun

tardy ingot
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im interested what tmrws list will end up as

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i just hope everyone shows up
ima beat peeps up if they dont without a valid excuse bonk

hardy grotto
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if the 3 guns mentioned above are not S I will be spamming you with many questions marks

turbid horizon
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Me when i

tardy ingot
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i very much think it will end in S

hardy grotto
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5 burst was a lot of fun and allowed u to destroy bosses but I think 3 is overall better

craggy pier
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What list

tardy ingot
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im gonna do a stream tmrw with scaler/tru/ray/dragon (at least the plan is) and the idea is to make rankings for melee/tools/weapons and stuff. Generally talking about it and so on

craggy pier
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Ok

tardy ingot
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since its slower for what it was good at before

craggy pier
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Can you make a tier list for melee skins

hardy grotto
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Yes

craggy pier
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I can't tell which hammer is the best

neon gust
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Maul of course

craggy pier
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No

hardy grotto
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It just makes the gun more accessible

neon gust
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theres no debate

tardy ingot
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yes its Maul

hardy grotto
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Also gavel is the best

craggy pier
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It's not mau

tardy ingot
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anybody who disagrees gets muted

craggy pier
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How can it be maul

hardy grotto
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maul gets close second

neon gust
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if you disagree ill contact mod mail for harrasment

craggy pier
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Mallet is the best

ashen frigate
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Anyone saying sledgehammer gets a ban

craggy pier
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HDH

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Is too small

hardy grotto
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The og sledgehammer goes crazy tho

neon gust
craggy pier
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The propertions are wrong

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The santionian HDH needs to be longer

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Actually any hammer with a crowbar needs another 10cm

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They just don't look nice while charging

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Also HDH has a shit handle

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But I really like the strike face

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Maul has a great handle but crowbar and the hammer is weird

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Mallet looks too much like a toy

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Every sledgehammer has things i love and hate about them

civic wave
hardy grotto
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gavel is better

civic wave
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gavel is great but I'm a bit jaded from how many people used it so I use sledge instead

craggy pier
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my ideal sledgehammer is like
Mauls handle, mallets end, HDH face

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That would be heavenly

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they're all in the uncanny valley

waxen jetty
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Gerz

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stfu

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Gerz Gavel Gay

craggy pier
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gavel has that carabiner

hardy grotto
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Rick

craggy pier
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Which is great

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But it's not symmetrical

hardy grotto
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I hope you fall into a den of wolves

craggy pier
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Wolves are pretty nice to humans

waxen jetty
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WHAT DID YOU STEAL

craggy pier
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Generally

waxen jetty
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WHAT ARE THE NUMBERS

hardy grotto
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are you excited

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are you hyped

waxen jetty
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im good

lusty bramble
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Maco Sledgehammer

lusty bramble
tardy ingot
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mm ?

civic wave
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MountainMan

tardy ingot
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ah

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why would i use a spreadsheet or the stream d4rkevThink

civic wave
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because the numbers tell you what weapon is good

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5 is higher than 3, and that is why old BC was better

spark parcel
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Burst or auto sentry for trash waves?

digital mural
civic wave
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burst sentry (it kills things)

digital mural
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auto sentry doesnt kill shit

neon gust
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auto sentry in b4 👨‍🍳

spark parcel
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Does someone have spreadsheet at which dmg+ booster the weapon kills faster e.g. hel revo only needs a hs?

civic wave
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Dmr is any main damage, hel revo is 13 or 14%, boosters are bad, don't use them, we already have hel revo montages

tardy ingot
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its rly just a funny gimmick
boosters are ...

civic wave
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You can do the maths yourself anyway if you know the damage numbers and enemy multipliers and hp

spark parcel
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Bro i have like barely a 5 in math

digital mural
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5/100?

turbid horizon
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Bro dumped all his skill points into dex

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Int is a dump stat frfr

spark parcel
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Thats my score usually

turbid horizon
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Respect

dry pumice
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How much HP does a striker head has again?

vagrant heart
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10

craggy pier
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At least 8

solar yew
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Hello guys, do you know how to do the new dodge mechanic ?

hardy grotto
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Move left right or backwards and tap sprint key

solar yew
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Oh ok it's just like that, thanks !

cloud fox
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What other weapons are worth using against the massive boys in R6D1/R8B2 (I think it was B2) cus i really don't want to use the sniper anymore. (I don't mention it by name since idk if its considered a spoiler anymore)

tardy ingot
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and yea sniper is :I

cloud fox
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Kk, ty, I've pretty much always been a sniper main but R8's changes, god. Scattergun is my new best friend.

tardy ingot
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a friend of mine played sniper in every level but original r2e1

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hes been making a lot of memes about it now

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and doesnt touch it

dry pumice
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Personally I don't want to see the 0 ammo hyper specialist anymore

dry pumice
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Talking mag obviously

tardy ingot
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sniper was fairly balanced already

dry pumice
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Don't throw your big brain numbers at me, I don't care

tardy ingot
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oh

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i thought you meant refill

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just revert sniper

olive robin
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we should make the mag size 3 again

tardy ingot
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the weapon didnt need any touches outside of maybe getting set to a clean 4 per refill

dry pumice
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Alternative idea: how about buffing reload speed by a bunch

olive robin
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but scatter gun

dry pumice
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What is it right now?...

olive robin
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slow

tardy ingot
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the shot delay (fire rate) makes it feel clunky
the recoil is just florkShrug1
mag size is killer
reload cancel speed feels weird but eh

dry pumice
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3.5 huh

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Let's try 2.5

olive robin
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Weapon type Special
Firemode Semi-Automatic
Max ammo 15
Reserve ammo 13
Bullet Cost 17.5
Magazine size 2
Starting ammo 8.57 (57.13%)
Ammo per refill 5.14 (34.27%)
Damage 40.01
Precision Multiplier 2.0025x
Precision Damage 80.120025
Stagger Multiplier 1x
Damage per mag 80.02
Precision (160.24005)
Total damage 600.15
Precision (1201.800375)
Rate of fire 46.15 RPM
DPS 30.78 DPS
Reload time 3.5s
Falloff Start 60m
Falloff End 100m

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from the wiki

dry pumice
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My man just copy pasted the whole wiki page

olive robin
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i copy pasted the numbers

dry pumice
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Honestly 10c logic works on something else, so I don't know why I even throw any ideas here. They will do whatever it is they do.

olive robin
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idk

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i managed to get dashing looked at

tardy ingot
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and now its worse

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well the dash isnt

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but the stam cost is ouch

olive robin
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it is

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the next patch should reduce stam cost to like 10-15, and maybe reduce sniper reload time/give it more mag size

upper ginkgo
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implying there is a next patch...

twin hamlet
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couple years time, you never know malice

olive robin
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i could see one coming in a few weeks

brisk swift
dry pumice
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Damn, people are actually going for all the logs?

digital mural
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and apparently

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theres one missing

dry pumice
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What's the most annoying one to get to so far?

civic wave
#

I imagine the one at the end of r5d1 will be quite annoying, on the run back to extract where you're forced to open a side zone

dry pumice
#

Oh God, that one.

#

Are there any within secondary?

civic wave
#

probably, I can check I guess

dry pumice
#

Skipping sec makes life easier.

civic wave
#

yeah looks like there's one in secondary

#

I guess luckily all you need to do is read the log once then end the run

#

so extracting doesn't matter

dry pumice
#

I mean... At that point you might as well, right? Extraction is around the corner.

civic wave
#

if you're stable, sure

#

if you're not what's the point of long kiting and maybe running into a shadow giant just for another clear

neon gust
#

I mean you can just kill the shadows

#

.........

civic wave
#

yea that's the plan

#

shoot well murder everything, but if stuff goes fucked then

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

brisk swift
#

Also ||r8a2 has one on the secret secondary terminal you seemingly need to magically know the name of|| AND ||one in the immortal room that's pretty scuffed||

verbal zinc
#

Go get all those 188 logs!

#

They exist

hazy wedge
#

Need more logs honestly

sturdy glen
#

is it worth the time

ashen frigate
#

Honest props for the people who tested the log collecting achievement. I have to admit I did not have the time and patience to go after each and every single one of them.

brisk swift
#

@verbal zinc had lots of fun doing it with me, right mr. blade?

verbal zinc
timid grove
#

1-18 1-15 1-11 pick numbers

verbal zinc
#

R6D4 has a log that is not being counted towards your progress if anyone else is malding over that stupid achievement right now!

ocean spindle
#

it just appeared on known issues so like

#

yes

ocean spindle
timid grove
#

this is going to be interesting

past mesa
#

188 are required for the achievement

#

You found the one

past mesa
ocean spindle
midnight tulip
#

are the scans in R8B4 "fake"? We brought bioscan speed and we still got waves after the scan ended so it seems like they're fixed. Wouldn't that mean we can ignore the scan and focus on clearing the waves first?

twin apex
#

is smg good for r2b3

dry pumice
#

It's a main. Doesn't matter.

#

Specials are far more important consideration... Speaking of which: what was that level about?...

twin apex
#

its a mining area w alot of fog

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and small separated areas

#

my team was kinda struggling so i wanna switch off my double pistol build

dry pumice
#

Uplinks?

#

Yeah, sure, go for SMG.

#

But again: specials are more important for quick wave deletion. Maybe Heavy Assault Rifle too while at it? High small enemy counter, but someone else will have to deal with giants.

verbal zinc
twin apex
#

we do have 1 member w Konin

twin apex
#

but she isnt really a shooter game player, so when hell broke loose she kind of panic

past mesa
#

Mb fireblade

twin apex
#

what are some good gun loadout that u guys would recommend

grizzled widget
dry pumice
#

A question as ancient as time... Anything that you can hit enemies with, really. And depends on your preference for close VS ranged engagements.
As far as skill requirements go - pistol plus heavy assault Rifle is a milktoast load out that will solve most problems, except for 5 or so giants marching towards you

#

Meta wise:
HEL Rev, Carbine and HEL Shotgun dominate the mains.
Combat shotgun, machine guns and burst cannon(?) dominate specials. Scatter too, if you know how to use it right.

civic wave
#

Machine guns do not dominate specials

#

combat shotty has insane ammo, hel weapons get insane value, burst cannon is still good but has levelled off at the top end

#

scattergun is literally the only boss killer left

dry pumice
#

What, veruta is no longer the shit?

sturdy glen
#

it never really was, its just accessible

#

most ppl can get pretty good value out of it

civic wave
#

veruta has alwaus been good and was better than abarlest for a long while

dry pumice
#

Thinking of recoil complaints - I'm not sure about that, but I guess it's subjective from person to person. How else this contradiction can be explained...

grizzled widget
twin apex
#

I've been interested in dmr and double tap rifle

#

but double tap feels underwheilming unless im not using it right

#

both bullet to the head for 1 kill right

ocean spindle
#

one head one body on dtr
so u can drag down super hard down

civic wave
#

DMR will 1 shot shooters, leave strikers on one hp

ocean spindle
#

and just aim for headshots

civic wave
#

double tap can 1 burst both shooters and strikers if you hit 1h1b

dry pumice
#

It can technically nuke smalls in 1 burst if you land a Bodyshot > Headshot burst, thus it has a theoretical capability of killing 7 enemies per magazine.

#

But its just too much effort for the average player. Just use Burst Rifle instead, basically same thing

ocean spindle
#

i dont htink its the same thing

#

closest thing to dtr its either dmr

dry pumice
#

It is in my book

ocean spindle
#

or burst pistol, cause it two bursts

ocean spindle
dry pumice
#

And you're actually correct

twin apex
#

burst pistol has lower dmg tho no ?

dry pumice
#

Burst Pistol got some fascinating things in common with it

ocean spindle
#

and kills

dry pumice
#

Including the same theoretical capability to kill 7 enemies per mag

#

Literally same principle

#

Good luck landing a flawless double headshot though

twin apex
#

hm

ocean spindle
#

u dont need double headshots

#

one burst to the head its enough

dry pumice
#

You do, i calculated it

ocean spindle
#

unless u mean the burst

#

in which case its not that hard

#

recoils very simple

dry pumice
#

True, but still

#

Burst Pistol had actually finally convinced

#

DTR does indeed needs an increased mag

#

Stupid things runs out too fast

#

another 2 bursts in mag will go a loooong way making it a more pleasant gun to work with

#

That or fucking... Delete the recoil. Like, compeltely. Reinvent Burst Bullpup.

ocean spindle
#

a oneshot gun

twin apex
#

so dmr is 1hp even if headshot ?

ocean spindle
#

long range

#

would be stupid

ocean spindle
dry pumice
ocean spindle
#

and leaves strikers at nothing

dry pumice
#

You can go in and just tap them with your melee and they'll fall over

twin apex
#

does booster go away if we win the expedition

#

or when I leave the match

ocean spindle
#

the booster goes away where u win, u leave or u fail it

twin apex
#

dang

#

should I save them or

ocean spindle
#

yeah unless u find a hard expedition u wanna burn em on

#

i only use the ones i dont want

dry pumice
twin apex
#

yee

dry pumice
#

Booster is gone after 30 seconds you drop into expedition - that's the moment the game will synchronise with servers to update data. After that the game remembers that you used the booster and will take it away no matter the outcome.

#

On a good note same principle applies to collecting artifacts - dying in an expedition will still give you the boosters you earned. But it won't count if you just quit.

twin apex
#

how good is mastaba revolver

ocean spindle
#

its ok
it oneshots smalls in the head, it has a super lightning fast reload, ok range
just really its only fault its againts bigs cause it doesnt have enough dmg to kill it within a mag but

#

otherwise its a good like wave control if u got good aim and a lil bit of breathing space to hit ur shots

#

just basically a longer range combat shottie, but with shorter reload and more skill demand

rain python
neon gust
#

damn

rain python
#

Speak of the devil

#

The man that coined the term and technique

dry pumice
# twin apex how good is mastaba revolver

For the longest time it was the most "light weight" special in the game - it exists exclusively to delete small enemies with headshots, but struggles against anything bigger and bodyshot value is cringe.
It used to have the quickest reload speed among specials of 1.75s, but apparently has been overtaken by recently added Short Rifle which fills the exact same niche, reloads at 1.7s and requires far less skill to operate.

neon gust
ocean spindle
#

short rifle i dont think its really the same thing, its a longer range but not oneshot that at least does a bit better on giants cause u can spam it

olive robin
#

it one mags giants which is a bit of a waste but still works

ocean spindle
#

yeah but at least it does it
i still prefer revo cause i think its better on big hordes, the reload can be canceled so fast u basically got an infinite mag and if u do it well, u get a good chunk of the wave before they get to u

#

as long as u got line of sight

olive robin
#

im p sure it has better range than short rifle

dry pumice
#

Falloff Start 12m
Falloff End 80m

ocean spindle
#

12 vs 8, yeah

dry pumice
#

vs

#

Yeah, there we go

#

Slightly better range

#

Well... 50%, actually. But... 4 meters. Whatever.

ocean spindle
#

58 falloff end on short rifle? that seems pitiful

dry pumice
#

Exact same precision multi too

ocean spindle
#

even pr has 70 meters, and its a gun ive heard people complain that sometimes they dont hit shoots too far away

dry pumice
#

I mean... It is SHORT rifle

#

Which is kinda counter intuitive with the whole semi things

#

I genuinely do not understand that gun, i really dont.

#

The entire concept and design seem to be conflicting with itself.

#

AND it uses the heavy SMG gun base

#

What a Frankenstein

ocean spindle
#

i mean i kinda get its just a rifle to short medium distance as it can be spammed and has a gigantic mag, twice as big as rifle
but for a small controlling gun, revo its just better in my opinion

#

as long as u can hit ur shots

#

revo might have the same prec multi but the dmg just helps a lot with it

dry pumice
#

They could've just copypasted its' ammo supply to HAR and win the day

#

Yes, i'm still malding over H "149 bullets" AR

ocean spindle
#

nerf the max ammo on short rifle from almost 200 to 150? i dont think that would do any good

dry pumice
#

They couldn't pick an uglier number if they tried

ocean spindle
#

the gun has enough funky shit as it does

dry pumice
#

Goddamn, i can't type straight today...

ocean spindle
#

smh typing gay

olive robin
#

gtfo guns are cool

#

the stats are scary though

ocean spindle
#

gtfo guns are cool

#

i love them a lot

dry pumice
#

Balance is the true horror element of GTFO

ocean spindle
#

slug shottie its fucking beautiful

#

its like my fav model and sight

rain python
dry pumice
#

I'd rather have different flavours of the same gun then one gun that just sucks

rain python
#

I mean Heavy SMG is closer to AR than SMG imo. I would love more variability that they tried with HEL pistol. Like “tungsten bullets” for stagger. Would be cool if they played around with an “armor” value and add meaning to the “heavy” variants of guns

#

I’d rather have cool guns good for each category to have more choice in roles vs just the same gun but different skin

dry pumice
#

HSMG literally be an upgrade to AR right now

#

It has inferior range, but its compensated by bullets with +0.3 dmg

#

More of them too... And fires them faster too...

#

Watch them nerf HSMG instead of buffing poor AR

ocean spindle
#

really if they just like put away the recoil of ar and gave it like a shit ton of range

#

would be fun

#

and a bit more ammo

#

that would be a very different like season on autos

#

a super long range auto u can shoot from anywhere on the map

#

but sacrifices a bit of the dmg

olive robin
#

but it doesnt use the slide at all

ocean spindle
#

and dont cancel

neon gust
#

Does the bot flashlight counts

#

for the achivement

#

??

turbid horizon
#

Bot turns on flashlight once, no achievement

#

From what I’ve been told

neon gust
#

bro

#

no shot

#

lmao

turbid horizon
#

One of the moments

neon gust
#

nobody test it that

#

?

turbid horizon
#

Might as well do R6B1 solo/flashlightless/only piss/revo

turbid horizon
#

I still have yet to get the achievement because my group hard trolled and wiped on our no flashlight attempt of R1B1 musicmommyOMEGALUL

civic wave
#

I did r2b1 earlier I think, pretty short level

#

just took the key off my keyboard, not being able to do some achievements with bots is funny as fuck though

turbid horizon
#

yeah I should’ve probably done that

#

One of my friends who has never soloed anything other than R1B1 decided to take a harder level, and managed to do a R6B1 MP/Revo solo on his 15th try

civic wave
#

I guess I could've done no flashlight at the same time as b tier solo but eh

turbid horizon
#

Yeaaaah that’s iffy

civic wave
#

wouldn't have been too bad because it's only r1b2 but still

#

probably less annoying to do separately

turbid horizon
#

I might’ve been able to, but that’s scary for me

ocean spindle
#

scawwed lil baby

turbid horizon
#

yup

ocean spindle
#

u need to afront ur fears

turbid horizon
#

No

ocean spindle
#

do r7b2 sec no flashlight

#

solo

dry pumice
#

You can do "solo pistols" and "no flashlight" in the same run of R1B1

#

Its going to be FRUSTRATING, but the alternatives are worse

#

I unbinded my flashlight button and used it as a stress reliever

rain python
dry pumice
#

Those giants almost cost me a run a couple of times

#

I think i got at low as 40% from 90%

#

Just 2-3 long range kisses

ashen frigate
#

Muscle memory is VERY strong

dry pumice
#

Canon event: warden got lazy and deployed one guy into the expedition, who just happened to have all his flashlights broken

visual coral
#

Are they going to add in-game counter for logs?

dry pumice
#

we wish

#

There is technically one on the achievements screen

#

It counts them

ashen frigate
#

almost accurately (should be fixed soon)

turbid horizon
#

It updates on expedition completion

dry pumice
#

But if they add like... Literal "there is 3 logs in R4C1" check list... I don't know, feels conflicting with the purpose of the logs which is "oh shit, there's something here besides AUTOGEN"

wooden karma
#

thought you needed 4 for that one

dry pumice
#

What i'm more curious is about is wether or not LRF counts for turning on the flashlight... I guess its linked to flashlight button, so probably yes?...

outer dove
#

hi, I have a question, where do I get the password for the terminal in r8a2 in order to get access to secondary objective?

barren mural
#

Gutentag I just picked up GTFO and would like to know if it's playable on a HDD or if it needs to be SSD?

midnight tulip
#

Are you asking if loading times on HDDs are unbearable?

barren mural
#

Does the game contain elements like texture streaming where it utilizes the hard drive in real time to deliver assets to memory during gameplay.

#

Load times can be long I dont care

midnight tulip
outer dove
#

thx

dry pumice
tepid sand
#

It’s just recommended to install on an SSD while playing any multiplayer game

#

Helps a lot

light cradle
#

Guys

#

What do you think about people that use trainers

#

In order to beat levels

#

?

dry pumice
# light cradle What do you think about people that use trainers

They are colloquially referred to as "cheaters".
Although, eh... As long as they don't boast about it and just quietly enjoy the game in the corner while playing solo with Betters Bots... Not like anyone can stop them.
But the second they pull that shit in a public lobby - yeah, off with their head.

light cradle
#

Sometimes happened to me , in a lobby there were a guy with inifinte ammo

#

But at the end I prefer that because we could beat the level , it sounds that is not enjoying the game but is so frustrating taking a lot of time to play a game

#

And the. Fail and fail

dry pumice
#

This is also known as "part of the game"

light cradle
#

True

dry pumice
#

Now yes, GTFO is a little bit more on the... Radical side of it, lets say. Most games are kind enough only to reset like 20 minutes tops of your progress, while GTFO can casually revert 60+ minutes worth of sweating.

light cradle
#

But after waiting 20 minutes and also the fact that I am very bad

dry pumice
#

But again... Such is the intended design.

light cradle
#

Yeah

#

But the matchmaking in r6 at the end was very slow

dry pumice
#

I don't know, i guess you could like... Try to be sneaky about it? Just refill your own ammo every so often out of nowhere while no one is looking.
But the second someone will notice - there is a chance they will report you to local mods and they WILL ban you from this server. Which effectively condemns you to gulag of in-game matchmaking.

light cradle
#

I never could do any secondary or overload in publics

#

I don't use cheaters

#

I am dog

ocean spindle
#

yes u could
i dont recommend it but if ur desperate ask for a carry and 70 vets will be on ur lobby

#

maybe

light cradle
#

So that frustrated me

#

Because I took 20 minutes

#

To play just one game

craggy pier
#

ok serious genuine question

#

How do you see shadows in bright rooms OMFG

#

i just fucked up killing a shadow scout because i couldn't see jack shit even though i was right next to him with my light on it

#

are you supposed to just shoot it

#

are there any settings i can change to see them better or something

#

i don't understand why they are so absurdly hard to see

dry pumice
#

If i had free time i could attempt doing some testing with shadow settings...
Wait, let me see if googles finds anything.

#

"...make sure your shadow resolution setting is at the very minimum set to medium, higher is better. It makes their outlines more defined"

#

This is the only thing google could come up with

craggy pier
#

like they are literally invisible

#

i don't know how else to explain it

dry pumice
#

Yeah, i know.

#

Shadows suck

#

Maybe all vets secretly sit on 4080 TI with all their graphics to Ultimate and somehow it makes shadows that much easier to work with

craggy pier
#

the biotracker can barely keep up with them because their scans decay so fast

#

it's just cancer

light cradle
#

Artek

#

I have a laptop with rtx. 3050 ti is it good or bad ?

craggy pier
#

it's okay

dry pumice
#

If one was to test shadows what would be the quickest way to find some

craggy pier
#

you can google benchmarks

dry pumice
#

Hm... There is one piece of shit of a level

#

if only i could turn off their fuckin' ai too

craggy pier
#

so basically

#

you take only weapons with either thermals or with like

silver fable
dry pumice
#

Either 1 thermal for overall QoL experience, or both to completely forget about them as an enemy

craggy pier
#

Medium range flashlight #2 weapons

dry pumice
#

I know his pain

silver fable
#

for shadow scouts, I'd just force a deploy and try to hit about 50cm above where the tendrils sprout from

dry pumice
#

No one believes me either that i can't fucking see them if i tried

craggy pier
#

I'm gonna start clipping this

#

and make a compilation of blindness

dry pumice
#

Please do. Later i'll try to get some screenshots of shadow settings compairons.

craggy pier
#

so either take Medium range flashlight #2 weapons because that is the brightest + most well lit flashlight or the thermals

#

and hope for the best

silver fable
#

if you're dealing with a lot of shadows in bright areas, bring bio I guess?

dry pumice
#

Unfortunately one of the settings is tied to reloading the game so... Fuck me i guess?

craggy pier
silver fable
#

...then do your job?

craggy pier
#

yes hi hello recharge time

dry pumice
#

The scan decay, man

craggy pier
#

9 second decay yes hi

#

have you played gtfo

dry pumice
#

Oh wow, i know where they are for exactly 10 seconds

silver fable
#

there's like 2 seconds between when the doritos fade and when you can ping again

dry pumice
#

Maybe i even killed like... 3.

silver fable
#

it's not that bad

craggy pier
#

and that happened to us

#

impossible to scan

#

some of them will be invisible

silver fable
#

what was the game's tagline again...

#

"work together..." ?

craggy pier
#

ah yes let me bring 2 biotrackers

#

teamwork

dry pumice
#

Maybe you could try bringing like crackton of CPU boosters and just have bio always ready that way

craggy pier
#

scan together or die together

silver fable
#

tbh you could probably bring 2 bios on most levels and be fine

dry pumice
#

I CPU boosted my bio before and it was honestly such a fucking QoL

#

Vanilla bio cooldown can suck my A

craggy pier
#

I am just desperate at this point

dry pumice
#

What level is this again

craggy pier
#

c1

dry pumice
#

Still trying to OV?

#

Brutal

craggy pier
#

kinda

dry pumice
#

Fuck em', just bring dual thermals and have someone else on giant duty.

#

And don't be the bio guy

#

Specfically

silver fable
#

I guess also you could try sentry funnel if you're doing a scan with shadows

#

mainly so that you have a predictable route for shadows to enter

#

shadows are kinda slow, if you're killing them as they enter the room then they don't really get to split up

#

sentry funnels are more conducive to getting that predictable entryway

#

even though you need pings for the sentries to fire on shadows

twilit estuary
#

Does anyone know how to do bot commands?

#

im really confused

dry pumice
#

The default button should be Q i believe

silver fable
# craggy pier c1

if you're getting dunked by the secondary scan (the main places shadows show up), the sentry funnel approach is what we used in the duo

twilit estuary
#

ahh

dry pumice
#

They will respond to TEAMWORK > FOLLOW ME
and, uh... I forgot the tool command.

#

Also you can just... Have a bot as 4th player

#

With their OP Bio they effectively counter shadows for good.

#

(with many a turret, that is)

silver fable
#

but yeah in r8c1pe you really could get away with double bio if you're really struggling with the shadows

#

make the other tools sniper sentries probably

dry pumice
#

And yeah, using 3 sentries recently i realized how OP the funnel strats are.

#

Have door open, have 3 sentires all patrolling different angles as to not have their zone overlap and you basically will have no enemies reach you

craggy pier
#

the most painful part of this is that none of this would be a problem if shadows just

#

responded to lights in the environment

hazy wedge
#

Sounds like gtfo

craggy pier
#

jank jank jank jank jank

hazy wedge
#

Still love the bug where giant footsteps go quiet and can sneak up behind you

craggy pier
#

im gonna just play drg

dry pumice
#

Why do glowsticks don't light them up

#

I hate it so much

light cradle
#

Worst enemy to deal with ?

#

Doesn't count fat yoshi

dry pumice
#

Although recently i've actually been noticing them being litten up by evnrionment... Like, actually giving off shadows.

#

Can't tell if its my new GPU to thank or if R8 is just that weirdly assembled.

ocean spindle
#

didnt that happened already

dry pumice
#

R8C1 in particular is just full of weird bugs, like ghosts of furniture (i can see a shadow of some box or another, but its not there)

light cradle
#

Yeah

#

There were a bug

#

Now patched

#

With overload

#

There were a terminal

#

That was unreachable

#

That thing was bad

#

Because you need to do uplonks

#

With and rng mechanic

#

So maybe one time you would have to do it with that unreachable

#

So you had to wait 3 minutes

dry pumice
#

Beep?...

light cradle
#

Beep ?

#

I don't understand

craggy pier
#

this game needs an operation health like r6s

narrow niche
dry pumice
#

did not see any of those yet

#

This game is like a job, and i already have one

#

finding free time is impossible

narrow niche
#

That's why I spoilered it uwu

tiny tundra
#

I'm sure this has been asked already but for the d-block decipher achievement, do you have to play the audio of audio logs or is running the read command all it checks?

digital mural
#

then you can stop the audio

#

and it will count

tiny tundra
#

Excellent, thank you

digital mural
#

you dont need to hear it all

proper quiver
#

how do you deal with the big mother

#

do you just spam the babies with machine gun then shotgun her sack

narrow niche
#

Yo

ocean spindle
#

dont try foam unless u got a tripmine or, 3 foam nades

proper quiver
#

ok

#

cause we got fucked at the end of r3d1 by it

raw mist
rugged lodge
#

why is giant charger called bbc?

silver fable
#

big black charger

#

also for the funny

shadow pagoda
#

Question about the r8c1 ||how do you deal with the overload objective nightmare scout?||

lusty bramble
#

FOAM

shadow pagoda
#

only foam?

lusty bramble
#

FOAM

shadow pagoda
#

FOAM

boreal bluff
#

yo do I have to do the tutorial of GTFO?

tepid sand
#

SCATTER

neon gust
#

You get an achievement for it too

boreal bluff
#

o h..

boreal bluff
wooden karma
#

yeah you learn the basics of the game lmao

hazy wedge
#

"Basics" They seriously need to update training, it barely teaches you anything

ocean spindle
#

teaches u enough to not die

#

i agree some parts r eh like terminal

#

but sneak alarms resources doors zones

past mesa
#

I think training is pretty Good

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All things considered it could be much worse

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I think the locked tank room should probs be used better

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Than it is rn

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Having something there either scout optionals or terminals passwords would be nice but I don’t think it matters anymore

hazy wedge
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That would be nice, but also have players experiment with other tool. I've seen beginners only use sentries and nothing else, not even a bio when they hop in a mission

past mesa
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That isn’t an issue tbh

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Sentry’s are kinda goated

hazy wedge
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True

past mesa
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Anything to get these players off of c foam

hazy wedge
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I'm just sick of being the bio player and having newbies tell me to ping shit when it's on cooldown

past mesa
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It is better this way

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the other way is worse

vagrant heart
past mesa
shadow pagoda
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Scatter?

wooden karma
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scattergun prolly

shadow pagoda
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Ohhhh

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What's "on client?" As in if you're host?

past mesa
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You are the opposite of host

shadow pagoda
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KuromaruWorry awah

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LOL

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that makes sense

past mesa
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Host is “bad” with scatter

shadow pagoda
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Because they don't have the latency to spam?

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||Do we have hp values for them yet?||

tepid sand
past mesa
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More an issue how damage gets calculated

shadow pagoda
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I can't find anything on the wiki

past mesa
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Do

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||162||

tepid sand
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Wiki isn’t being updated until later

past mesa
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Yeah 2 weeks then it is free game

tepid sand
past mesa
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Oof I might be wrong

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It is somewhere in there

supple kiln
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any advice on downing tanks? playing r7d2 ||and we chose to take a tank spawning over a mother in the generator door, but i have never been able to kill one no matter how hard i try||

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idk if i need to spoil it but i mean spoilers for r7d2

tepid sand
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Nah no need for spoilers

past mesa
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Also do you have real players or bots

supple kiln
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we’re trying to take it down on the bridge area; i use carbine and combat shotgun and my friend uses smg and heavy attack rifle, we also have a bot but idk what they have our host sets them up but she’s off sneaking in the tank room for the cell

past mesa
supple kiln
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also everyone has sentries

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would like turning a sentry or two backwards help?

past mesa
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Like sniper or burst cannon. You need to shoot the tumors on its back

supple kiln
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yea ik that

past mesa
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Just take a weapon that isn’t combat shotty

supple kiln
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okay cool would hel rifle work? i need more ammo than sniper :/

past mesa
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Burst cannon

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I would take

supple kiln
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i honestly don’t know if i’ve ever used one

past mesa
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Hel rilfe is fine it just don’t really do the damage we are looking for

past mesa
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Maybe make sure your host stays until the tank dies

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Before she goes to sneak

supple kiln
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that’s a great idea actually

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idk why i didn’t think abt that

past mesa
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But work together as a team will be easier

supple kiln
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cuz she takes sniper and heavy smg so she could help a lot

supple kiln
past mesa
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There is a lot more going on

supple kiln
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yeah fair

past mesa
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Full waves

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charger or shadow giants not the most cover

supple kiln
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also the second the tank spawns is always when our sentries run low on ammo

past mesa
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Yeah it happens

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What sentries are you using

supple kiln
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so i’ll just try to save a 4 use tool ig

past mesa
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What sentries are you be using

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And I hope you have a bio

supple kiln
supple kiln
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i was reccomended to try all sentries and it worked out pretty well

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with bio we can’t make it past the first room

past mesa
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Do you make it through the first blood door

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Easy?

supple kiln
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yeah

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that was fine

past mesa
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Then what happens

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Do you stay on the bridge

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(the room before the blood door)

supple kiln
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but then when we hold in the hub room we got killed

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no we went back a room

past mesa
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you all go into the hub

supple kiln
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another thing i was reccomended

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yeah

past mesa
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right

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That is correct you get punishment waves if you don’t

supple kiln
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yeah

past mesa
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Pretty bad ones

supple kiln
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cool i did smth right

past mesa
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How quickly do you make it through the blood door

supple kiln
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but when we had bio we could barely make it thru like three waves

supple kiln
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that’s the goal

past mesa
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Yup that is correct as well

supple kiln
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generally the first wave gets there right as we are picking up our sentries to move into the hub

past mesa
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Tbh just use the burst cannon

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I think your issue is probs big sleeper clearing

supple kiln
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fair

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is the burst cannon the one that charges up?

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i can’t remember

past mesa
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Yeah

supple kiln
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we called it a night tn but i’ll put that out there for tmr

past mesa
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3 round burst 60 damage at a safe range

supple kiln
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we’ve been stuck on this level since r7 came out

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kinda breezed thru the first levels

past mesa
supple kiln
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uhhh around 8-9ish cst idk

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but we’re determined to do this without help

past mesa
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Okay you guys got it if you need someone to look at your vods and find the more glaring mistakes just ask!

supple kiln
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we had a fourth at one point but he just doesn’t know how to play to be honest

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like

past mesa
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XD so based

supple kiln
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he just fell behind a lot

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couldn’t shoot or sneak much

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he was a friend from a modded minecraft server

past mesa
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Yeah this game is tricky sometimes