#gtfo-related-questions
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this guy scatr
scatrgun gamin
Shift while moving left, right, or backwards.
It eats stamina for very little value, probably don't use it.
you might be able to use it to get out of being beat to death by chargers
buti deally you dont get into that situation to begin with
a gaint charger?
I don’t think dodging would even help in that case either
You’d still be in range for melee attack I believe
has the dodge always been this small?
i remember it covering way more distance in og
backwards is far enough to not get slapped
bro hes slapping into your ass
sideways isnt and I have no idea when you would ever use that
besides, if youre dodging a giant charger youre going to the side anyways
mf overshoots you
^
im saying if you already screwed yourself and its beating you to death
It would still beat you
dodging backwards more likely to make you take 2 hits
Dodging would not help
instead of just the 1
idk why, its not going to instantly try to tongue you
question for whoever knows
why does my game only show the r8 levels a1 b1 b2 c1 d1 e1
and i can visibly see others playing a2 b3 b4 etc
is it a beta or something
no
u will see it
but if u really wanna know ||once u complete those levels u unlock the rest||
Anyone been able to kill|| the new scout without foam, wave call?||
ive seen people do it melee
problem is they like turn on at the speed of light
so runnin while their tentacles are out its very risky
I dont think they mean the ||crawlers||
rip
Scattergun

anyone here from DFW want to game sometime soon?
hello! u can check the LFG channels to share n join lobbies! the instructions are in https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/653623062964731920
just some advice!
always ask to not be carried, make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
and if you are new be sure to do the tutorial first [Training] and start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one
DFW?
So true
🤠
Why would I use the revolver over the HEL gun?
you're cracked at landing headshots and want the higher ammo + greater potential ROF
0.2s charge-up is kinda alot
Revolver has a disgusting reload animation cancel too
yeah that gun just doesnt stop firing lmao
fair
If you're expecting to hold waves of anything but mostly smalls there isn't a good reason to take revolver imo
The HEL Gun has greater than 15 damage so it can break a giant limb in one shot
At least I think giant limbs have 15 health
hel gun giant limb break is so good it's a valid justification to just bring 4 for every mission
if you're trying to be as sweaty as possible you wouldn't
if 10cc balances around pickrate, why hasn't revolver been buffed already
16 damage and better flashlight pls
what is the "dodge mechanice" at patchnote???
Does the sawn-off count as a pistol? Seems like a dumb question, but I just want to be sure. Trying to do the pistols only achievement.
Is a car an airplane but for the ground? 🤔
What's a Boeing if not a bus for the skies?
Take that as a no.
Ok I just joined this discord: where do I go for voice groups for the easiest rundown level? also, is the easiest rundown A1 or something else?
you can start with r1a1 and finish all of r1
ok, do I just use the in game matchmaking system to find an R1A1 lobby then?
And then join their voicechat, or do I need to find the voicechat group here first, and then join the lobby after that?
Matchmaking was reworked to only search by tiers so there is no guarantee you'll end up in A1.
To ensure right level you should use LFG channels.
.t lfg
Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.
If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.
Go to id:customize and see that you have access to those.
Then just go to those channels (either #lfg-beginners or your area) and search for someone hosting A1 or host it yourself.
@lilac fulcrum when "Controlled Response" ach says "complete expedition alone with only pistols and revolvers" does it means what i think it means?
Actual literal solo?
sounds like a super fun achievement
Sound like a pain in my fuckin' A
wait what
mm got a rework?
Running calculations on what B level out there is not fuckin' bullshit for me...
its a b tier solo 
Probably something like R1B1 or B2.
r6b1 hel revo high cal
this is what i went with and was just kiting for about 10 minutes for the class 5 
you can use a sentry on lots of solos
you should be able to shoot the class 5
i closed big door and let them stack (very smart)
i got it but took a lot longer than what i thought it would take
r6b1 was my coming of age solo
might be my favourite level tbh
it's where I earnt my waveclear chops
I did r1b1 with Hel revo, high cal, burst sentry, free af. There’s only one class 2 you need to do to complete the level outside of some stealth which isn’t too bad, was like 25 mins total
Also no error alarm
R1B1 if you just wanna solo. You only need to do 1 alarm
After that theres 2 scouts you could meet or just perma sneak lol.
If flashlight achievement, probably R6B1
let burst sentry carry
Doing flashlight cheevo with a team is pretty ez on r2b1 as well, one of the faster b levels out there
Where is it?
WHERE IS MY LORE
187 gang where u at
its engrained into me to spam F
Unbind
yep, that's what i'm gonna do
I can promise you there are 188 logs. I double checked yesterday.
Maybe it's time to double check, Ben
technicalyl there are 192 as there are 4 dupes (but the dupes don't count twice)
r1b1 because you can technically just do 1 alarm then sneak everything else tbh
or pull everything else, who cares
Surely we messed up
Let’s go run every level again
WTF is this pitch darkness
Has to be one of them
@lilac fulcrum am i allowed to use Long Range Flashlight at least orrrrr
the one fucking time glowsticks are like gold and i can't find ONE
I think i'm getting tilted....
i really hope burst pistol counts
yes
r6b1 class 5 with hel revo + high cal + burst sentry was fun
done, fun achievement for sure
Here is a complete list of the log contentI found to be duplicated @lilac fulcrum:
CJ9-GVT-ERB: Appears on R6B2 and R7A1
98R-T5B-N57: Appears on R7D1 and R7D2
60F-056-HNK: Appears on R7E1, R7E1 (again), and R8B3 (the content is different here)
There's about 15 or so whose names are duplicates between R6, 7, and 8, but their content seems to differ, so I did not list them here. That said, I'm tired after looking for 188 and mysteriously not finding one, so I'm gonna wait for a statement, fix, or tracker
I should add that I did count and access a total of 192 logs as well, and I kept track of each one's name. It’s not impossible that I made a mistake along the way, but this seems like it is bugged.
how do the dodge mechanic work ?
hold d button strafing right, tap shift. u dodge. with huge stamina hit.
if i get a log
and then leave the expedition
does it still counts for the achivement?

stabby stab
I think you need to either win or all die and go back to lobby
what the devs mane by the adding the dodge mechanic back ?
it was gone
and now its back
what does artifact heat and booster result mean at the start of the drop?
gone or just reduced to insignificance, said it broke
alright
thanks Sleepo
ok
artifact heat is a multiplier that affects how much progress each artifact gives you towards each booster
100% heat = 0.15 progress per artefact (booster given when you reach above 1 or another whole number)
50% heat would be 0.075 progress, etc etc

how can one explain me sightrange of sleepers when neutral?
sometimes they aggro across the room when killed one of them<sometimes they don't see killing right infront
remote wakeups have always been a thing. i myself attribute it to sleepers actually in scanning state but due to distance, their animation / glow is not visible. from afar, the glow only shows at the end of their scan.
wait..they don't see entire zone in moment of scan?
or i did not understand something right
just LRF / good flashlight sync sleepers around a few times, wait for them to go back down and start popping. not 100% guarantee of no remote wakes but reduces chance at least. (heh long range flashlight as LFG, lulz)
there is a distance to hearing / seeing but sometimes it works a little funky, they shouldnt be able to hear/see but still get pissed
also
is there a way to dispose of scout without alerting horde?
try sneak close, melee its head off, then fully stop flashlight off. with any luck the nearest sleeper will not wake, just pulse a bit (knife users need the back of head ofc)
i mean
i tried to find """"Head"""" but most of the time he became blue and screamed
if knife, u need to get behind, full stab the back of head, if possible even jump and stab the back top of head
aim high, not over but top 1/3
hammer
full charge, wait for scout to be in range, aim reticle at forehead, release .. if u too far away, u hit chest/neck/shoulder, if too close, "she" bumped into u and got pissed
the range u learn in time, just get hours and scouts start dying consistently
the glow state happens pretty close to when they start the „scan“
Its just the first few frames that it wont show.
Another more important thing is tho that they only have a chance to wake up with long range aggro
most frustrating is when u sync with a light and u can see light touching every enemy .. .. but not all of them react. then when the rest go back to sleep, that one non-reacter then starts gurgling. meh.
dw about it
hey, this text seems familiar
yes, it yours
i used it since idk how to explain it myself
Any tips for r8c1 PE?
I heard that you can start the terminal, then let timer end, unlock every door, explore freely, and then finish it
So you don't need to rush the entire thing while defending 87 giants
mhm
thats what my team did
Do you have to start the terminal to unlock the doors
yes
Ok
i would not do point 2
Wouldn't you
But then you have a wave on your ass forever
And you need to deal with scouts
In rooms with sleepers
It's a recipe for disaster
?
@brisk swift R7C2 outside, log:
D3T-INI-FNI
did you try that one?
@ Ben, @ Fireblade, @amber phoenix and me are all 187 logs
from what I understand
Although I think Ben and Fireblade have the logs that DoggyDoge and I found, and vice versa
What was unclear
Is it just me or is your hands holding revolver placed higher up.
(I noticed this at release of R8 but never got around to asking)
Maybe... Don't use the gun enough.
The reload did get touched yesterday
I'm not entirely sure about this, but it seems like waves don't stop if you fail a round
Which I haven't looked at yet
I just love when I get hammer bite because I held my revolver improperly
I've stated it every now and then how I've been using revolver as well


Even my profile is related to revo
Not a fan of the break points
14 is just... Blergh.
Don't like small mags either
The only revolver I respect is Half Life one
And the one from EYE Divine Cybermancy
Me liking the ones in hunt showdown
But I Fucking HATE that they decided to lock it at 1/3 crosshair positioning
AFAIK starting the terminal for Overload starts the alarm?
Or you mean to stall the timer and use that time to unlock everything?
I didn't even noticed if waves can be delayed in any way. They seem to just keep coming.
If there is a way to make a breathing room - I'd like to know it.
I'm having smth of a loadout crisis and would love some advice: the team I run w generally has a bioscan guy (HEL revo + HEL gun), a scout kill guy (pistol + precision), a wave clear guy (heavy SMG + arbalist V). What would you recommend I run to fill out my team the best?
thats generally what ive tried to run in the past, though i havent tried BC in a long time
i suppose the primary doesnt matter too too much does it? mostly a preference thing?
pretty much
i choose my primary either by how im feeling or how the level plays out
if its good a lot of shooters etc
or the envioroment
can the BC handle scouts? i also would be curious if the HEL gun can too
sounds like a solid enough pick then, thanks
generally, what is the meta these days for those various roles? im just interested is all
well while its nice to fill some of these roles, a lot of guns work for multiple things and so overall you just kinda bring a mix if the level needs it.
If you are interested in an overall meta, theres (hopefully) gonna be an updated tierlist on it 
But yea, its not that easy to say. As a lot of stuff depends on the situation/enemies/player
Solo players: there are roles?
Yeah def, I’ll keep an eye out
probably 1 scattergun + 3 hel guns/rifles at this point
i honest to god think thats not the meta
scattergun hel gun burst cannon
but other specials are viable for sure
are hel gun and scatter rly fucking good and probably the 2 best weapons
yes
but id probably not take 3 hel guns
the hel guns kinda wanna do the same thing so you just do less
Me wanting to see Mako's "Stagger the world" redeem
Iirc everyone takes a specific loadout
what do you want to change in there?
take out 1-2 hel guns
(I'm not attached to that loadout fwiw)
input something depending on level
a combat shotty/veruta to focus on short range so hel guns can ignore anything thats close
burst cannon to deal with giants and scouts
prec rifle for kraken (and maybe some shadow heavy levels i guess) and scouts
well we talking specials rn
hel shotgun hel gun goes crazy
well yea but I don’t think you ignore the other gun in that discussion
it still plays a part
ye
but theres levels where stuff is more close ranged
so a hel shotty/combat shotty loadout would have more value
plus taking hel shotty means no hel revo
which is its own trade off
when I played with nuggie and joe for the very first time I busted out the hel shotgun combat shotgun and I kinda thrived
It was a funny time
so it’s the double shotgun carry
the loadout also unironically functions super well with a hel gun user
you can afk until stuff gets close and they will deal with shooters for you :^ )
it’s pretty good
I feel like my loadouts recently have just been 2 hel gun 1 burst cannon 1 scattergun
im interested what tmrws list will end up as
i just hope everyone shows up
ima beat peeps up if they dont without a valid excuse 
if the 3 guns mentioned above are not S I will be spamming you with many questions marks
Me when i
burst cannon unironically is the worst of the 3 for me
but even then at absolute worst id rank it like top of A
(im a bit biased because i like the 5 burst more)
i very much think it will end in S
5 burst was a lot of fun and allowed u to destroy bosses but I think 3 is overall better
What list
im gonna do a stream tmrw with scaler/tru/ray/dragon (at least the plan is) and the idea is to make rankings for melee/tools/weapons and stuff. Generally talking about it and so on
Ok
i think its worse for top end play tbh
since its slower for what it was good at before
Can you make a tier list for melee skins
Yes
I can't tell which hammer is the best
Maul of course
No
It just makes the gun more accessible
theres no debate
yes its Maul
Also gavel is the best
It's not mau
anybody who disagrees gets muted
How can it be maul
maul gets close second
if you disagree ill contact mod mail for harrasment
Mallet is the best
Anyone saying sledgehammer gets a ban
The og sledgehammer goes crazy tho
no cap
The propertions are wrong
The santionian HDH needs to be longer
Actually any hammer with a crowbar needs another 10cm
They just don't look nice while charging
Also HDH has a shit handle
But I really like the strike face
Maul has a great handle but crowbar and the hammer is weird
Mallet looks too much like a toy
Every sledgehammer has things i love and hate about them
the weapon of choice
gavel is better
gavel is great but I'm a bit jaded from how many people used it so I use sledge instead
my ideal sledgehammer is like
Mauls handle, mallets end, HDH face
That would be heavenly
they're all in the uncanny valley
gavel has that carabiner
Rick
I hope you fall into a den of wolves
Wolves are pretty nice to humans
WHAT DID YOU STEAL
Generally
WHAT ARE THE NUMBERS
im good
Maco Sledgehammer
Are you going to be using the mm spreadsheet for the stream
mm ?
MountainMan
because the numbers tell you what weapon is good
5 is higher than 3, and that is why old BC was better
Burst or auto sentry for trash waves?
burst
burst sentry (it kills things)
auto sentry doesnt kill shit
auto sentry in b4 👨🍳
Does someone have spreadsheet at which dmg+ booster the weapon kills faster e.g. hel revo only needs a hs?
Dmr is any main damage, hel revo is 13 or 14%, boosters are bad, don't use them, we already have hel revo montages
its rly just a funny gimmick
boosters are ...
You can do the maths yourself anyway if you know the damage numbers and enemy multipliers and hp
Bro i have like barely a 5 in math
5/100?
Thats my score usually
Respect
How much HP does a striker head has again?
10
At least 8
Hello guys, do you know how to do the new dodge mechanic ?
Move left right or backwards and tap sprint key
Oh ok it's just like that, thanks !
What other weapons are worth using against the massive boys in R6D1/R8B2 (I think it was B2) cus i really don't want to use the sniper anymore. (I don't mention it by name since idk if its considered a spoiler anymore)
precision rifle
Hel rifle is also ok
If a bit closer to it (go as close as possible)
Choke mod
and yea sniper is :I
Kk, ty, I've pretty much always been a sniper main but R8's changes, god. Scattergun is my new best friend.
a friend of mine played sniper in every level but original r2e1
hes been making a lot of memes about it now
and doesnt touch it
Goat
Do you think giving it back 3 ammo, but keeping recoil and RoF nerfs will make it fair and balanced?
Personally I don't want to see the 0 ammo hyper specialist anymore
artek
it had 4
well 3.91
Talking mag obviously
sniper was fairly balanced already
Don't throw your big brain numbers at me, I don't care
we should make the mag size 3 again
the weapon didnt need any touches outside of maybe getting set to a clean 4 per refill
Alternative idea: how about buffing reload speed by a bunch
but scatter gun
What is it right now?...
slow
the shot delay (fire rate) makes it feel clunky
the recoil is just 
mag size is killer
reload cancel speed feels weird but eh
why tho
Weapon type Special
Firemode Semi-Automatic
Max ammo 15
Reserve ammo 13
Bullet Cost 17.5
Magazine size 2
Starting ammo 8.57 (57.13%)
Ammo per refill 5.14 (34.27%)
Damage 40.01
Precision Multiplier 2.0025x
Precision Damage 80.120025
Stagger Multiplier 1x
Damage per mag 80.02
Precision (160.24005)
Total damage 600.15
Precision (1201.800375)
Rate of fire 46.15 RPM
DPS 30.78 DPS
Reload time 3.5s
Falloff Start 60m
Falloff End 100m
from the wiki
My man just copy pasted the whole wiki page
i copy pasted the numbers
Honestly 10c logic works on something else, so I don't know why I even throw any ideas here. They will do whatever it is they do.
it is
the next patch should reduce stam cost to like 10-15, and maybe reduce sniper reload time/give it more mag size
implying there is a next patch...
couple years time, you never know 
they released one p much 2 days after r8 release
i could see one coming in a few weeks
Yeah I got that one
Damn, people are actually going for all the logs?
yeah
and apparently
theres one missing
What's the most annoying one to get to so far?
I imagine the one at the end of r5d1 will be quite annoying, on the run back to extract where you're forced to open a side zone
probably, I can check I guess
Skipping sec makes life easier.
yeah looks like there's one in secondary
I guess luckily all you need to do is read the log once then end the run
so extracting doesn't matter
I mean... At that point you might as well, right? Extraction is around the corner.
if you're stable, sure
if you're not what's the point of long kiting and maybe running into a shadow giant just for another clear
yea that's the plan
shoot well murder everything, but if stuff goes fucked then
¯_(ツ)_/¯
R8E1 has some rather annoying ones, but if you know where they are and don't mind throwing a run for the first one it's not too bad
Also ||r8a2 has one on the secret secondary terminal you seemingly need to magically know the name of|| AND ||one in the immortal room that's pretty scuffed||
Need more logs honestly
is it worth the time
Honest props for the people who tested the log collecting achievement. I have to admit I did not have the time and patience to go after each and every single one of them.
@verbal zinc had lots of fun doing it with me, right mr. blade?

1-18 1-15 1-11 pick numbers
R6D4 has a log that is not being counted towards your progress if anyone else is malding over that stupid achievement right now!
8 7 8
There is 189 logs in the game
188 are required for the achievement
You found the one
You following the guide on the wiki?
not bad tbh
are the scans in R8B4 "fake"? We brought bioscan speed and we still got waves after the scan ended so it seems like they're fixed. Wouldn't that mean we can ignore the scan and focus on clearing the waves first?
is smg good for r2b3
It's a main. Doesn't matter.
Specials are far more important consideration... Speaking of which: what was that level about?...
its a mining area w alot of fog
and small separated areas
my team was kinda struggling so i wanna switch off my double pistol build
Uplinks?
Yeah, sure, go for SMG.
But again: specials are more important for quick wave deletion. Maybe Heavy Assault Rifle too while at it? High small enemy counter, but someone else will have to deal with giants.
My man... I have followed the guide followed this spreadsheet followed Jesus Christ and even found logs that were not on the holy spreadsheet and got added.
we do have 1 member w Konin
Ben has let me know
but she isnt really a shooter game player, so when hell broke loose she kind of panic
Mb fireblade
what are some good gun loadout that u guys would recommend
double shotgun unless you are a coward
A question as ancient as time... Anything that you can hit enemies with, really. And depends on your preference for close VS ranged engagements.
As far as skill requirements go - pistol plus heavy assault Rifle is a milktoast load out that will solve most problems, except for 5 or so giants marching towards you
Meta wise:
HEL Rev, Carbine and HEL Shotgun dominate the mains.
Combat shotgun, machine guns and burst cannon(?) dominate specials. Scatter too, if you know how to use it right.
Machine guns do not dominate specials
combat shotty has insane ammo, hel weapons get insane value, burst cannon is still good but has levelled off at the top end
scattergun is literally the only boss killer left
What, veruta is no longer the shit?
it never really was, its just accessible
most ppl can get pretty good value out of it
veruta has alwaus been good and was better than abarlest for a long while
Thinking of recoil complaints - I'm not sure about that, but I guess it's subjective from person to person. How else this contradiction can be explained...
i mean fair but they butchered the arbalest ever since ogr1
I've been interested in dmr and double tap rifle
but double tap feels underwheilming unless im not using it right
both bullet to the head for 1 kill right
one head one body on dtr
so u can drag down super hard down
DMR will 1 shot shooters, leave strikers on one hp
and just aim for headshots
double tap can 1 burst both shooters and strikers if you hit 1h1b
Oh, it is underwhelming... In that it requires fuckin' 200 IQ gigabrain and skills of a spider man
It can technically nuke smalls in 1 burst if you land a Bodyshot > Headshot burst, thus it has a theoretical capability of killing 7 enemies per magazine.
But its just too much effort for the average player. Just use Burst Rifle instead, basically same thing
It is in my book
or burst pistol, cause it two bursts
ur book its upside down
And you're actually correct
burst pistol has lower dmg tho no ?
Burst Pistol got some fascinating things in common with it
yeah but one burst to the head another to the body
and kills
Including the same theoretical capability to kill 7 enemies per mag
Literally same principle
Good luck landing a flawless double headshot though
hm
You do, i calculated it
True, but still
Burst Pistol had actually finally convinced
DTR does indeed needs an increased mag
Stupid things runs out too fast
another 2 bursts in mag will go a loooong way making it a more pleasant gun to work with
That or fucking... Delete the recoil. Like, compeltely. Reinvent Burst Bullpup.
a oneshot gun
so dmr is 1hp even if headshot ?
yeah dmr only oneshot shooters
Yes. It leaves biters with like 0.1 HP or something
and leaves strikers at nothing
You can go in and just tap them with your melee and they'll fall over
the booster goes away where u win, u leave or u fail it
yeah unless u find a hard expedition u wanna burn em on
i only use the ones i dont want
What do you mean? What, like after being used?
yee
Booster is gone after 30 seconds you drop into expedition - that's the moment the game will synchronise with servers to update data. After that the game remembers that you used the booster and will take it away no matter the outcome.
On a good note same principle applies to collecting artifacts - dying in an expedition will still give you the boosters you earned. But it won't count if you just quit.
how good is mastaba revolver
its ok
it oneshots smalls in the head, it has a super lightning fast reload, ok range
just really its only fault its againts bigs cause it doesnt have enough dmg to kill it within a mag but
otherwise its a good like wave control if u got good aim and a lil bit of breathing space to hit ur shots
just basically a longer range combat shottie, but with shorter reload and more skill demand
Gotta know the left booty cheek technique
damn
For the longest time it was the most "light weight" special in the game - it exists exclusively to delete small enemies with headshots, but struggles against anything bigger and bodyshot value is cringe.
It used to have the quickest reload speed among specials of 1.75s, but apparently has been overtaken by recently added Short Rifle which fills the exact same niche, reloads at 1.7s and requires far less skill to operate.
Ztriw and me
short rifle i dont think its really the same thing, its a longer range but not oneshot that at least does a bit better on giants cause u can spam it
it one mags giants which is a bit of a waste but still works
yeah but at least it does it
i still prefer revo cause i think its better on big hordes, the reload can be canceled so fast u basically got an infinite mag and if u do it well, u get a good chunk of the wave before they get to u
as long as u got line of sight
im p sure it has better range than short rifle
Falloff Start 12m
Falloff End 80m
12 vs 8, yeah
vs
Yeah, there we go
Slightly better range
Well... 50%, actually. But... 4 meters. Whatever.
58 falloff end on short rifle? that seems pitiful
Exact same precision multi too
even pr has 70 meters, and its a gun ive heard people complain that sometimes they dont hit shoots too far away
I mean... It is SHORT rifle
Which is kinda counter intuitive with the whole semi things
I genuinely do not understand that gun, i really dont.
The entire concept and design seem to be conflicting with itself.
AND it uses the heavy SMG gun base
What a Frankenstein
i mean i kinda get its just a rifle to short medium distance as it can be spammed and has a gigantic mag, twice as big as rifle
but for a small controlling gun, revo its just better in my opinion
as long as u can hit ur shots
revo might have the same prec multi but the dmg just helps a lot with it
They could've just copypasted its' ammo supply to HAR and win the day
Yes, i'm still malding over H "149 bullets" AR
nerf the max ammo on short rifle from almost 200 to 150? i dont think that would do any good
They couldn't pick an uglier number if they tried
the gun has enough funky shit as it does
Goddamn, i can't type straight today...
smh typing gay
Balance is the true horror element of GTFO
Stats are surprisingly simple which is why balancing is tough cuz it’s very easy to overlap
I'd rather have different flavours of the same gun then one gun that just sucks
I mean Heavy SMG is closer to AR than SMG imo. I would love more variability that they tried with HEL pistol. Like “tungsten bullets” for stagger. Would be cool if they played around with an “armor” value and add meaning to the “heavy” variants of guns
I’d rather have cool guns good for each category to have more choice in roles vs just the same gun but different skin
HSMG literally be an upgrade to AR right now
It has inferior range, but its compensated by bullets with +0.3 dmg
More of them too... And fires them faster too...
Watch them nerf HSMG instead of buffing poor AR
really if they just like put away the recoil of ar and gave it like a shit ton of range
would be fun
and a bit more ammo
that would be a very different like season on autos
a super long range auto u can shoot from anywhere on the map
but sacrifices a bit of the dmg
it has a slide on it like it was gonna be a pump action
but it doesnt use the slide at all
It disqualifies yeah

Bot turns on flashlight once, no achievement
From what I’ve been told
One of the moments
Might as well do R6B1 solo/flashlightless/only piss/revo
Idk, I didn’t test it myself
I still have yet to get the achievement because my group hard trolled and wiped on our no flashlight attempt of R1B1 
I did r2b1 earlier I think, pretty short level
just took the key off my keyboard, not being able to do some achievements with bots is funny as fuck though
yeah I should’ve probably done that
One of my friends who has never soloed anything other than R1B1 decided to take a harder level, and managed to do a R6B1 MP/Revo solo on his 15th try
I guess I could've done no flashlight at the same time as b tier solo but eh
Yeaaaah that’s iffy
wouldn't have been too bad because it's only r1b2 but still
probably less annoying to do separately
I might’ve been able to, but that’s scary for me
scawwed lil baby
yup
u need to afront ur fears
No
You can do "solo pistols" and "no flashlight" in the same run of R1B1
Its going to be FRUSTRATING, but the alternatives are worse
I unbinded my flashlight button and used it as a stress reliever
It shouldn’t be too bad since you don’t have to do the class 4 alarm. That’s the hardest part in the solo which you don’t even have to do for all IDs. All other are stealth zones. Biggie zone is also scary but you have a lot of ammo to work with
Those giants almost cost me a run a couple of times
I think i got at low as 40% from 90%
Just 2-3 long range kisses
This is probably the best advice for this achievement
Muscle memory is VERY strong
Canon event: warden got lazy and deployed one guy into the expedition, who just happened to have all his flashlights broken
Are they going to add in-game counter for logs?
almost accurately (should be fixed soon)
It updates on expedition completion
But if they add like... Literal "there is 3 logs in R4C1" check list... I don't know, feels conflicting with the purpose of the logs which is "oh shit, there's something here besides AUTOGEN"
interesting, i’ll try the no flashlight bit solo then on some other level (already did pistol only)
thought you needed 4 for that one
What i'm more curious is about is wether or not LRF counts for turning on the flashlight... I guess its linked to flashlight button, so probably yes?...
hi, I have a question, where do I get the password for the terminal in r8a2 in order to get access to secondary objective?
Gutentag I just picked up GTFO and would like to know if it's playable on a HDD or if it needs to be SSD?
Are you asking if loading times on HDDs are unbearable?
Does the game contain elements like texture streaming where it utilizes the hard drive in real time to deliver assets to memory during gameplay.
Load times can be long I dont care
You get the password from R8B2, it changes supposedly every week but is the same for everyone. Yesterday it was dx2ky-9wqk2
thx
mine feels fine on my hdd
Its only like 10 GBs... It should be fine on HDD, although SSD speeds up map loading by a mile.
It’s just recommended to install on an SSD while playing any multiplayer game
Helps a lot
Guys
What do you think about people that use trainers
In order to beat levels
?
They are colloquially referred to as "cheaters".
Although, eh... As long as they don't boast about it and just quietly enjoy the game in the corner while playing solo with Betters Bots... Not like anyone can stop them.
But the second they pull that shit in a public lobby - yeah, off with their head.
Sometimes happened to me , in a lobby there were a guy with inifinte ammo
But at the end I prefer that because we could beat the level , it sounds that is not enjoying the game but is so frustrating taking a lot of time to play a game
And the. Fail and fail
This is also known as "part of the game"
True
Now yes, GTFO is a little bit more on the... Radical side of it, lets say. Most games are kind enough only to reset like 20 minutes tops of your progress, while GTFO can casually revert 60+ minutes worth of sweating.
But after waiting 20 minutes and also the fact that I am very bad
But again... Such is the intended design.
I don't know, i guess you could like... Try to be sneaky about it? Just refill your own ammo every so often out of nowhere while no one is looking.
But the second someone will notice - there is a chance they will report you to local mods and they WILL ban you from this server. Which effectively condemns you to gulag of in-game matchmaking.
I never could do any secondary or overload in publics
I don't use cheaters
I am dog
yes u could
i dont recommend it but if ur desperate ask for a carry and 70 vets will be on ur lobby
maybe
I used in game matchmaking
So that frustrated me
Because I took 20 minutes
To play just one game
ok serious genuine question
How do you see shadows in bright rooms OMFG
i just fucked up killing a shadow scout because i couldn't see jack shit even though i was right next to him with my light on it
are you supposed to just shoot it
are there any settings i can change to see them better or something
i don't understand why they are so absurdly hard to see
If i had free time i could attempt doing some testing with shadow settings...
Wait, let me see if googles finds anything.
"...make sure your shadow resolution setting is at the very minimum set to medium, higher is better. It makes their outlines more defined"
This is the only thing google could come up with
Yeah, i know.
Shadows suck
Maybe all vets secretly sit on 4080 TI with all their graphics to Ultimate and somehow it makes shadows that much easier to work with
the biotracker can barely keep up with them because their scans decay so fast
it's just cancer
it's okay
If one was to test shadows what would be the quickest way to find some
you can google benchmarks
Hm... There is one piece of shit of a level
if only i could turn off their fuckin' ai too
they're at their least visible in bright rooms for sure
Either 1 thermal for overall QoL experience, or both to completely forget about them as an enemy
they are impossible to see in practice and i'm really tired of dealing with them
Medium range flashlight #2 weapons
I know his pain
for shadow scouts, I'd just force a deploy and try to hit about 50cm above where the tendrils sprout from
No one believes me either that i can't fucking see them if i tried
Please do. Later i'll try to get some screenshots of shadow settings compairons.
so either take Medium range flashlight #2 weapons because that is the brightest + most well lit flashlight or the thermals
and hope for the best
if you're dealing with a lot of shadows in bright areas, bring bio I guess?
Unfortunately one of the settings is tied to reloading the game so... Fuck me i guess?
i did!
i was literally the biotracker guy
...then do your job?
yes hi hello recharge time
The scan decay, man
Oh wow, i know where they are for exactly 10 seconds
there's like 2 seconds between when the doritos fade and when you can ping again
Maybe i even killed like... 3.
it's not that bad
the moment the group splits in two, you're fucked
and that happened to us
impossible to scan
some of them will be invisible
Maybe you could try bringing like crackton of CPU boosters and just have bio always ready that way
scan together or die together
tbh you could probably bring 2 bios on most levels and be fine
I CPU boosted my bio before and it was honestly such a fucking QoL
Vanilla bio cooldown can suck my A
I am just desperate at this point
What level is this again
c1
kinda
Fuck em', just bring dual thermals and have someone else on giant duty.
And don't be the bio guy
Specfically
I guess also you could try sentry funnel if you're doing a scan with shadows
mainly so that you have a predictable route for shadows to enter
shadows are kinda slow, if you're killing them as they enter the room then they don't really get to split up
sentry funnels are more conducive to getting that predictable entryway
even though you need pings for the sentries to fire on shadows
The default button should be Q i believe
if you're getting dunked by the secondary scan (the main places shadows show up), the sentry funnel approach is what we used in the duo
ahh
They can only walk
They will respond to TEAMWORK > FOLLOW ME
and, uh... I forgot the tool command.
Also you can just... Have a bot as 4th player
With their OP Bio they effectively counter shadows for good.
(with many a turret, that is)
but yeah in r8c1pe you really could get away with double bio if you're really struggling with the shadows
make the other tools sniper sentries probably
Q 1 then whatever number
And yeah, using 3 sentries recently i realized how OP the funnel strats are.
Have door open, have 3 sentires all patrolling different angles as to not have their zone overlap and you basically will have no enemies reach you
the most painful part of this is that none of this would be a problem if shadows just
responded to lights in the environment
Sounds like gtfo
jank jank jank jank jank
Still love the bug where giant footsteps go quiet and can sneak up behind you
im gonna just play drg
Oh god, yes
Why do glowsticks don't light them up
I hate it so much
Although recently i've actually been noticing them being litten up by evnrionment... Like, actually giving off shadows.
Can't tell if its my new GPU to thank or if R8 is just that weirdly assembled.
didnt that happened already
R8C1 in particular is just full of weird bugs, like ghosts of furniture (i can see a shadow of some box or another, but its not there)
Yeah
There were a bug
Now patched
With overload
There were a terminal
That was unreachable
That thing was bad
Because you need to do uplonks
With and rng mechanic
So maybe one time you would have to do it with that unreachable
So you had to wait 3 minutes
Beep?...
this game needs an operation health like r6s
R8||C2 or D2||? Idr but also kinda bugged
did not see any of those yet
This game is like a job, and i already have one
finding free time is impossible
That's why I spoilered it uwu
I'm sure this has been asked already but for the d-block decipher achievement, do you have to play the audio of audio logs or is running the read command all it checks?
play the audio
then you can stop the audio
and it will count
Excellent, thank you
how do you deal with the big mother
do you just spam the babies with machine gun then shotgun her sack
Yo
pretty much
u can divide ur team, big guns shoot her, quick guns take care of whatev else, quick guns can be hel shottie hel gun machinegun heavy assault rifle tbh whatev u have that its crowd control
dont try foam unless u got a tripmine or, 3 foam nades
Bianhua right? there's actually a trick you can do while the door is opening. If you jump at the center of the apex door, you can peek in and shoot during the door opening anim
Here's a vid demonstration
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDt-deQ7QOg&ab_channel=ReyyynA%3B
why is giant charger called bbc?
Question about the r8c1 ||how do you deal with the overload objective nightmare scout?||
FOAM
only foam?
FOAM
FOAM
yo do I have to do the tutorial of GTFO?
SCATTER
Yes
You get an achievement for it too
o h..
do I earn anything else than just achievement?
yeah you learn the basics of the game lmao
"Basics" They seriously need to update training, it barely teaches you anything
teaches u enough to not die
i agree some parts r eh like terminal
but sneak alarms resources doors zones
I think training is pretty Good
All things considered it could be much worse
I think the locked tank room should probs be used better
Than it is rn
Having something there either scout optionals or terminals passwords would be nice but I don’t think it matters anymore
That would be nice, but also have players experiment with other tool. I've seen beginners only use sentries and nothing else, not even a bio when they hop in a mission
True
Anything to get these players off of c foam
I'm just sick of being the bio player and having newbies tell me to ping shit when it's on cooldown
||After foaming, hit the tumors on its torso. There's one on the front and one on the back, they'll pop with enough damage. I don't believe it takes damage if you hit anywhere besides the tumors||

You can scatter it on client at least
Scatter?
scattergun prolly
No you aren’t host
You are the opposite of host
Host is “bad” with scatter
Because they don't have the latency to spam?
||Do we have hp values for them yet?||

More an issue how damage gets calculated
I can't find anything on the wiki
Wiki isn’t being updated until later
Yeah 2 weeks then it is free game
|| 161 || no?
any advice on downing tanks? playing r7d2 ||and we chose to take a tank spawning over a mother in the generator door, but i have never been able to kill one no matter how hard i try||
idk if i need to spoil it but i mean spoilers for r7d2
Nah no need for spoilers
What guns do you have and where are you fighting the tank
Also do you have real players or bots
we’re trying to take it down on the bridge area; i use carbine and combat shotgun and my friend uses smg and heavy attack rifle, we also have a bot but idk what they have our host sets them up but she’s off sneaking in the tank room for the cell
Maybe use something that does more damage
Like sniper or burst cannon. You need to shoot the tumors on its back
yea ik that
They can’t do everything but it can
Just take a weapon that isn’t combat shotty
okay cool would hel rifle work? i need more ammo than sniper :/
i honestly don’t know if i’ve ever used one
Hel rilfe is fine it just don’t really do the damage we are looking for
If you are having trouble
Maybe make sure your host stays until the tank dies
Before she goes to sneak
Don’t worry you will get better at killing tanks eventually you will be able to solo them
But work together as a team will be easier
cuz she takes sniper and heavy smg so she could help a lot
i have before idk why i’m struggling so hard on this one
There is a lot more going on
yeah fair
also the second the tank spawns is always when our sentries run low on ammo
so i’ll just try to save a 4 use tool ig
we’ve varied between 3 burst one sniper and 2 burst 1 sniper 1 shotty
we tried but couldn’t make it thru
i was reccomended to try all sentries and it worked out pretty well
with bio we can’t make it past the first room
you all go into the hub
yeah
Pretty bad ones
cool i did smth right
How quickly do you make it through the blood door
but when we had bio we could barely make it thru like three waves
before the first wave hits us from behind
that’s the goal
Yup that is correct as well
generally the first wave gets there right as we are picking up our sentries to move into the hub
Yeah
we called it a night tn but i’ll put that out there for tmr
3 round burst 60 damage at a safe range
we’ve been stuck on this level since r7 came out
kinda breezed thru the first levels
Hmmm well maybe you could go for help when do you normally play
Okay you guys got it if you need someone to look at your vods and find the more glaring mistakes just ask!
XD so based
he just fell behind a lot
couldn’t shoot or sneak much
he was a friend from a modded minecraft server
Yeah this game is tricky sometimes



awah