Boosters aren't needed (besides glowstick power)
#gtfo-related-questions
past mesa
But do you balance around door cheese
Do you know about r7e1 outside skip
Was it intended or just a cool accident
uneven gulchBOT
past mesa
Ladies and gentlemen we got him
lilac fulcrum
oh no i didnt click the link
lilac fulcrum
I actually really like that link
past mesa
Also it is a serious question do you know about the outside skip in r7e1
Cause if so sick game design
lilac fulcrum
the brazil skip?
lilac fulcrum
yeah i've heard about it, pretty wild and an accomplishment to do that
but i don't believe the Level Designers made it on purpose, I think that's just a happy accident
past mesa
Nice you guys sometimes have these events chains that open doors one thing to early like r7d1 the charger room scan opens the door before you finish the scan.
I am just gonna think they are intended
unkempt matrix
What has higher damage on range? smg or high caliber pistol
narrow niche
hm
hazy wedge
High cal has a 8 m range before falloff
neon gust
waht
tardy ingot
tardy ingot
high cal will be better
narrow niche
use high cal tf
civic wave
I wonder if the gun with 30 damage deals more ranged damage then the gun with 2 damage...
tardy ingot
even if its not great
narrow niche
smg ||kraken|| rah
narrow niche
I wonder if the gun with 30 damage deals more ranged damage then the gun with 2 ...
nah
never
unkempt matrix
I wonder if the gun with 30 damage deals more ranged damage then the gun with 2 ...
I mean if the high cal dmg would drop to 1 the smg would be massively better
narrow niche
bruhhhh
narrow niche
afaik guns drop at most to 0.1 no?
all guns?
tardy ingot
not sure
earnest compass
Yes it’s all guns
10% is the lowest it’ll go
Although like the DMR and sniper would practically never get to that as their range is so big
earnest compass
What is the head HP of a striker?
earnest compass
put 5? 6? long rooms in a row and it will uwu
Finally something I can use to snipe a baby striker at 200m
hazy wedge
What is the head HP of a striker?
I forgot but the multipler should be 3x and 5x for shooters
Someone can answer that better
jagged shore
i think for striker it's 10
earnest compass
Makes sense
So 3 auto pistol headshots should pop its head?
As thats like slightly above 10 damage
hazy wedge
I always spammed hel auto whenever I get the chance to use it heh
soft crater
10
Pistol does like 11.~~ on striker headshot
I recall some guy trying to argue they can make consistent pistol double headshots by ranging a headshot after the dmg falloff to be just under 10
Doing like 9 dmg but not breaking the head thus allowing a second headshot
fierce walrus
sturdy glen
b3 still?
dry pumice
that sounds promising...
hazy wedge
C2 was pretty chill
cloud fox
Oh nah, B4 is a great time :)
hazy wedge
But it’s a bit unforgiving if you fuck up
cloud fox
:')
hazy wedge
That’s true
balmy plaza
for the more experienced players out there, would you guys say r7 or r1 is a better introductory rundown in the game?
ocean spindle
r7a1 its the easiest mission, but i personally think it introduces too much too fast, the whole rundown has a very VERY steep difficulty curve and it has lore which is funky
tbh most id recommend its doin R6A1, which is kinda the best A1 mission as its is easy and its cool and has lore but not so intrusive
and then just jump all the way back to r1
and play in order
dry pumice
7?... Hmmm.
I guess? It will show off way more flavour of the game and get people hooked, but replaying previous 6 rundowns will feel bland in comparison
sturdy glen
if youre gonna start with a later rundown make it 6
heady moat
R7A1 does seem to me like it was designed first and foremost to be beginner-friendly
(0 scouts, little bit of a 'you need to use terminals to find keycards' tutorial, relatively simple alarms, two checkpoints...)
tardy ingot
for the more experienced players out there, would you guys say r7 or r1 is a bet...
r6
ah shit im blind chill said that
turbid horizon
for the more experienced players out there, would you guys say r7 or r1 is a bet...
R6
ocean spindle
the tutorial
woven terrace
does anyone have issues where the game just disconnects or something
im not sure if it affects me or the whole lobby
alpine fox
So what yall thoughs on new stuff(weapons und rundown)?
civic wave
if steam servers or the other company that's used for whatever the hell goes wonky then yeah you can get connection issues
woven terrace
im trying to reconnect
to the prev match but idk if the other players crashed out too
dry pumice
So what yall thoughs on new stuff(weapons und rundown)?
Rundown's very fun, guns are fine for the most part although i can't really find the use for Short Rifle and SlugShot needs a little extra oomf to it
civic wave
it's possible that the lobby is completely dead and no-one can rejoin
alpine fox
Rundown's very fun, guns are fine for the most part although i can't really find...
Shorty is kinda cool, however it has strange sweet spot where it takes 4 bullets to kill(normally its 3?), Slugy is overall not really useful
melees feels like new skins for ol'good sledgehammer, knife and spear xd
neon gust
I dunno i feel like slug shotgun its pretty balance really
craggy pier
I like the slugger
sturdy glen
same
craggy pier
Truly i enjoy
sturdy glen
ppl expecting too much from a main
neon gust
still gotta play more short rifle and burst pistol
ocean spindle
slug shottie idk i feel like it needs range or rate of fire, if it had any of those i would get it but for a gun that needs headshots on shooters and also just has 6 meters or range?
play sawed off
neon gust
but i just dont like it
neon gust
slug shottie idk i feel like it needs range or rate of fire, if it had any of th...
its a priamry
craggy pier
Use secondary on shooters
sturdy glen
short rifle is a disgrace to this game
heady moat
It's basically just a semi-automatic smg
sturdy glen
you do not need to play more of it
craggy pier
Short rifle has a massive identity crisis
neon gust
also not having a slkill issue and landing hs helps a lot
with slug
you bodyshot close range
you hs long range
not that difficult to use
heady moat
(hell, with the short rifle, ||internally it's defined as an SMG, not as a rifle||)
sturdy glen
and its also a shotgun
ocean spindle
its a priamry
yeah but sawed off its too, and has way more rate of fire and its a bodyshot weapon
dmr has a ton of range and its a two shot on strikers, oneshot on shooters, more rate of fire, more ammo...
hell even like, hel shottie its kinda the same thing, double the mag two shot on everyone
that joke was not intentionate
sturdy glen
we dont talk about hel shotgun
ocean spindle
~~we dont talk about hel shotgun~~
not even takin into account waves
just individual enemies
neon gust
that joke was not intentionate
i didnt even understood what your tring to say there
hablame en espanol
ocean spindle
i didnt even understood what your tring to say there
i said 'hel' instead of 'hell'
neon gust
me pasa tambien
craggy pier
Ola mi name dora
neon gust
taco taco chimichanga
craggy pier
Diego no Bueno now amigo
ocean spindle
but yeah i love slug shottie as like usin it but if it just had, range or rate of fire, i would be compeltely fine with it, even with the lower ammo and stuff
not even the two just one of em
neon gust
but yeah overall slug shotgun its in a good state for me atleast good strenght and weaknesses
if i where to buff it then fire rate
ocean spindle
yeah
neon gust
but i think its good
craggy pier
One shot kill main finally
ocean spindle
i think it looks awesome
craggy pier
Finally
neon gust
saw off its one
ocean spindle
One shot kill main finally
sawed off
past mesa
Hel shotgun
craggy pier
Doesn't count
ocean spindle
double tap its a one burst
dmr a oneshot on shooters
ocean spindle
u just like to exclude anything smh
craggy pier
Or anything
past mesa
XD
heady moat
HEL revolver is still a pretty decent gun even if we overlook the HEL stuff
past mesa
Yeah
craggy pier
Single shot guns make playing client manageable
ocean spindle
u know what the slug shottie needs?
hel, hel slug shottie [yes im jokin]
past mesa
u know what the slug shottie needs?
hel, hel slug shottie [yes im jokin]
You might be on to something
tardy ingot
if i where to buff it then fire rate
id much rather have it be range, since its low range doesnt rly make sense thematically 
craggy pier
Needs like 2 meters more range
ocean spindle
You might be on to something
no stop
heady moat
Okay but hear me out - HEL sawed-off
ocean spindle
Needs like 2 meters more range
i would like 4, so it at least 10 and outdoes the pistols range
ruby wasp
Anyone started having repetitive disconnections from the game recently ?
past mesa
Okay but hear me out - HEL sawed-off
Hel scatter sawed off
ocean spindle
and u can use it from FAr away
heady moat
Hel scatter sawed off
That too
heady moat
Anyone started having repetitive disconnections from the game recently ?
Steam is being fucky rn
ocean spindle
if u could use it from far away the fire rate makes sense
if u spam it and could shoot its 6 bulelts fast the range would make sense
ruby wasp
weird
ocean spindle
different uses
woven terrace
@ruby wasp yes I jsut disconnected two times back to back
balmy plaza
i havent gotten any disconnects but playing with friends has been pretty laggy or have been desyncing since the update
supple gust
if i where to buff it then fire rate
Check it out in Samdown 
civic wave
what buffs did you cook up for that in samdown (definitely increased ammo, firerate too probably)
just a full package with range/damage too maybe
shrewd dirge
r8b4 main tips?
mossy aurora
word on the street is that foam is really good for the ending but ive never tried it
balmy plaza
do you get anything for doing secondary objectives in a expedition?
digital mural
do you get anything for doing secondary objectives in a expedition?
no
tepid sand
do you get anything for doing secondary objectives in a expedition?
Not anymore other than bragging rights
hazy wedge
a single +1 to the sec counter
Where my +2 for R8B4 secondary smh
narrow niche
Where my +2 for R8B4 secondary smh
:3
topaz anvil
fuck dude I want mcdonalds
narrow niche
:3
topaz anvil
I don't wanna go outside tho ;-;
upper ginkgo
yo pass me a fry
sturdy glen
with a shake?
topaz anvil
nah, 3 large fries, 20 nuggies, and a wrap
for my drink I've got some sparkling water next to me
sturdy glen
...
sturdy glen
lol
jagged shore
Not anymore other than bragging rights
well, achievements now
surreal wraith
||Does anyone know if the tank spawn in R8C1 overload is a one-time deal or is it periodic?||
lunar rain
is it just me or does it feel like when using the slug shotgun, you aim it directly at something and it just says "no you didnt hit"
narrow niche
:3
balmy plaza
is it just me or does it feel like when using the slug shotgun, you aim it direc...
yeah i feel that sometimes
ocean spindle
||Does anyone know if the tank spawn in R8C1 overload is a one-time deal or is i...
spoils
use the ||thing||
or write it in spoils chat
tepid sand
well, achievements now
True
light pasture
Hey, i'm having an issue where it's totally impossible for my friend to join my lobby or i to join his. we both have stable wired internet connections and have verified file integrity through steam. has anyone had a similar issue?
i should rephrase, we've managed to get in a lobby together once after hours of brute forcing the join from rundown menu. otherwise no luck
topaz anvil
you tried steam invites?
light pasture
yes, steam invites. joining from clipboard, everything.
we even tried random matchmaking and had some success that way but that deprives us of the ability to select a specific rundown level
light pasture
yes
topaz anvil
The other 3 slots, does it say below "Players & Bots" or "Players Only"
austere cloak
hows the bio trackers range for esch half circle?
light pasture
slot 2 players only, slots 3 and 4 are bots, have also tried all players only
topaz anvil
how bizarre
native dust
If you specifically host right now
If he hosts I can't join if I host he can't join. Could you join the room ID see if the lobby is bugged or something
topaz anvil
Fuckin weird word
light pasture
my steam is linked to my discord if you're willing to help troubleshoot
native dust
Or could you host a room see if it lets either of us join
topaz anvil
Aight gimme 2 minutes, need to turn on pc and go to the bathroom
light pasture
Thank you.
topaz anvil
is it 5m per circle or 10m?
I think its 5
austere cloak
thanks all
native dust
If you specifically host right now
Yeah we can matchmake and get in a lobby together but it won't let us have bots then, that sucks
topaz anvil
Yeah we can matchmake and get in a lobby together but it won't let us have bots ...
Sorry about the delay, krakatoa was upon me
topaz anvil
need turret slaves
You got a code?
@light pasture @native dust if neither of you are here I'm gonna get on with formatting my pc so I won't be able to help
though idk what else to do
ocean spindle
we've also tried other levels with no success
u can always check #1049599987878723635, u might find some answers on there on another post someone else made
or even multiple
obsidian knoll
Bro what happened to sniper
hardy grotto
Yeah
misty widget
hey guys its my first game and i was wondering should i be starting with alt rundowns or the current rundowns ?
topaz anvil
Is that the real kennyS
misty widget
Is that the real kennyS
no its the fake KennyS
topaz anvil
😔
I'd start with r1->r6 then r7 then r8 but you might find yourself getting a bit bored with how similar everything is until r4. Therefore start in r1, and if you want some variety, jump to r6 which is much more interesting
misty widget
I'd start with r1->r6 then r7 then r8 but you might find yourself getting a bit ...
alright thanks man
topaz anvil
Don't forget to look for friends to die with you in the complex
frosty wasp
Very serious question
At R4D1, is it better to wake up the last room with the 5 scouts.. or sneak in and try to get the code?
topaz anvil
Very serious question
At R4D1, is it better to wake up the last room with the 5...
Definitely don't wake it up, either stealth kill the scouts or sneak for the code
frosty wasp
I mean, its about 30 chargers and 5 scouts
I have 20 tries in that shit already
@topaz anvil are you sure
frosty wasp
Oh boy, this is gonna hurt
frosty wasp
Are you playing alone?
No, i usually have a team of 4
we can wake them up and do a controlled defense with the sentries
misty widget
Don't forget to look for friends to die with you in the complex
xD
dry pumice
Either sneak or at the very least try to stealth kill like 2-3 of the scouts and then wake up the rest. You got ammo for days and if you brought 3 turrets - your squad should be able to handle the wave. That's how i remember my clear going.
misty widget
what is expendition difficulty ?
dry pumice
Actually i might've imagined that....
dry pumice
what is expendition difficulty ?
Varies from level to level, but usually:
A = Easy
B = Normal
C = Advanced
D = Hard
E = Very Hard
topaz anvil
what is expendition difficulty ?
"A" tier is the easiest tier of level in a rundown, and it gets harder the deeper you go
frosty wasp
Either sneak or at the very least try to stealth kill like 2-3 of the scouts and...
I can't imagine otherwise
its a reactor level and losing 4-5 whole minutes with the risk of waking up the whole room with us inside doesnt feel logical, i would rather wake them up and defend at the door
topaz anvil
I can't imagine otherwise
its a reactor level and losing 4-5 whole minutes with...
That's why you keep 3 outside on look out and damage control. At worst you lose your 4th to whatever is inside but best case they get out and can join for defence
tardy ingot
For R4D1, 4th code zone if you can stealth kill a scout or 2
Then shoot another and defend the room side, then swap most attention to the wave side
Because honesrly you should have enough ammo and tool from the 3rd code areas.
obsidian knoll
For R4D1, 4th code zone if you can stealth kill a scout or 2
Then shoot another ...
What guns should I use to kill scouts
tardy ingot
whatever, theres a bunch that can 
novel sedge
Yo we did r1a1 melee and we didn't get the achievement
For doing an a tier missions with just melee or tools
Anyone knows what's going on?
tardy ingot
did you shoot anything at all?
sudden scroll
is there anyway to disable or lessen the amount of "SHHH SLEEPERS" I have to hear or do i just need to get used to it?
livid stone
Whats the longest level?
dry pumice
Whats the longest level?
R5D1, potentially R4E1, I think R5B2 or something is a long one as well... Shit takes an hour+ with averagely skilled squad.
tardy ingot
R5B2 is pretty damn short
dry pumice
Then I'm thinking of something else.
ember mulch
R4C2 is also long
sour bronze
I know that r8 is the "final rundown", but will there be anything else besides bugfixes and patches now?
Or will there just be a few small updates and that's it
fierce walrus
I know that r8 is the "final rundown", but will there be anything else besides b...
nothing confirmed other than small patches and such
sour bronze
They said "final chapter", but idk if that means final rundown, or final story driven rundown
tepid sand
It basically is the final rundown
digital mural
They said "final chapter", but idk if that means final rundown, or final story d...
no more rundowns
sour bronze
yea i assume so
but just making sure
Oh well, im still only a bit over half way through r8, so ill just focus on that
hidden ridge
Very serious question
At R4D1, is it better to wake up the last room with the 5...
It depends but my group did pull that room and survived
I think that if you want to pull, just pull
frosty wasp
(GTFO sequel when?)
hidden ridge
From my limited experience there what fucks people up is more about the "we decided to sneak but fucked up" than the "we pulled intentionally and weren't prepared"
frosty wasp
From my limited experience there what fucks people up is more about the "we deci...
This.
Thanks for the advice
olive robin
The new dodge is real
humble crater
The new dodge is real
placebo be like
tepid sand
The new dodge is real
The new dodge sucks
drifting halo
How does it work ?
humble crater
you press shift and if the game is fancy enough itll move you 1 pixel more
arctic marten
The new dodge sucks
why dont you back that up with a source
tepid sand
why dont you back that up with a source
Stamina
I mentioned it
Not to mention is basically now makes everything faster
Unintentionally
digital mural
arctic marten
i love speed
hidden ridge
i love speed
name checks out
upbeat flare
Anyone experience matchmaking using clipboard not being detected?
tepid sand
It's a massive speed change
arctic marten
are you going to reset the r1a1 speedrun for 8 hours until no one drops a dash
tepid sand
It's like it's favored towards speedrunners
Now we get to bhop everywhere unlimited with sharp corners
hidden ridge
Anyone experience matchmaking using clipboard not being detected?
I can try joining your lobby rn to check
dusk quest
in the new (10 Dec 23) patch notes, it says lore message is added into r1d1. ive got this achievement, but does anyone know what the message is, i dont think we have read any log or message.
tepid sand
arctic marten
in the new (10 Dec 23) patch notes, it says lore message is added into r1d1. ive...
there is banging in the room before the reactor which is morse code
tardy ingot
are you going to reset the r1a1 speedrun for 8 hours until no one drops a dash
imagine running that when it has a checkpoint now
upbeat flare
I can try joining your lobby rn to check
We are from PH and we are trying to play with our friend from AUS but we cannot detect his lobby
dusk quest
there is banging in the room before the reactor which is morse code
oh waow, is it loud????
arctic marten
imagine running that when it has a checkpoint now
checkpoints make you faster
hidden ridge
We are from PH and we are trying to play with our friend from AUS but we cannot ...
let me see if I can join your lobby, if he can't and I can than you know it's his issue (I can grab your lobby code already no need to give it me)
arctic marten
oh waow, is it loud????
not super noticable, but loud enough to hear if you're listening for it
ashen frigate
oh waow, is it loud????
dusk quest
damn ok, does it come from inside the final reactor door or in the hallway to the reactor door??
dusk quest
https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/585062984619917342/1172810867964...
okay, mb , new here
arctic marten
hallway
upbeat flare
let me see if I can join your lobby, if he can't and I can than you know it's hi...
Thank you. Big help thanks
olive robin
It's a massive speed change
So what did they change about it
verbal carbon
what are the shorter names of things (not including the rundowns)
tepid sand
So what did they change about it
At perfect stamina, the speed of the dash is 10 u/s, at max stam, speed of dash is ~6.4. Spring speed is 6
So you literally move faster by bhopping EVERYWHERE
olive robin
At perfect stamina, the speed of the dash is 10 u/s, at max stam, speed of dash ...
What is perfect vs max
tepid sand
Stam values overall are also fucked
Perfect is 0 bpm
Max stam went from 180 max to 190 max
olive robin
Is it better for avoiding enemies
olive robin
So I can't use it to side dash out of tongues
tepid sand
It increases stam so much
tepid sand
Non combat stam also got a buff
Prisoners are now faster
Max non combat changed from 130 -> 115-120
So you move slightly faster now
I'll bring it up to Calle later this morning this def seems like an unintentional change
hardy grotto
this is gonna be so useful! Can’t wait to move faster out of comb- nvm there’s a stuck enemy gg
jaunty latch
does it even matter outside of speedrunners
tepid sand
this is gonna be so useful! Can’t wait to move faster out of comb- nvm there’s a...
So true 😂
hardy grotto
kinda
Void im pretty sure we had a stuck enemy on the top platform on d2 earlier today
tepid sand
Bruhhhh
hardy grotto
and we didn’t clear room so we couldn’t even go kill it
We got the W anyway it was just pain
jaunty latch
I had a ceiling gaint somehow a few days ago
tardy ingot
Perfect is 0 bpm
perfect is not 0bpm, since you start at 60 or so
tepid sand
perfect is not 0bpm, since you start at 60 or so
0 on a scale, but yea
Mbad
Worded it bad
tardy ingot
no you right in wording
tepid sand
60 BPM is perfect (in-game), 0 on the comparison scale (i.e it's the lowest you can go)
sour bronze
For the no flashlight b-tier achievement, do bots count?
digital mural
nope
torn slate
for the achievement controlled responce whatre the best guns to use and also do bots count as making you not alone
craggy pier
im sorry, a dodge mechanic?
viscid sundial
hey pals, just a quick question,
why slug shotgun is a primary with low munition and (in my thoughs) specialized usage, and dmr smg (forgor the name sorry) is a special weapon being a all around thing similar to burst smg ?
heady moat
🤷♀️
craggy pier
how do you dodge and what does it do
oh you press sprint
can i use this to dodge tounge attacks
you can kinda dodge them if you get out of their range
olive robin
hey pals, just a quick question,
why slug shotgun is a primary with low munition...
Do you mean the short rifle?
soft crater
im sorry, a dodge mechanic?
Has always existed. But OG R6 nerfed/bugged it to basically be unusable unless you dodgejumped with the microsecond timing
Makes sense they would nerf it with stamina
dry pumice
hey pals, just a quick question,
why slug shotgun is a primary with low munition...
Slug being a special would be problematic because we already have a whole bunch of 15+ hard hitting specials. The market is overcrowded.
Having a 20 break point in main however is very interesting. Personally I like the gun, it just needs a couple of QoL buffs.
Shirt Rifle for special however... Is pretty weird indeed. Technically it's in the same market as HAR - versatile, low dps shoehorn... Except semi auto, less damage and insane (by special standards) ammo efficiency.
I guess it exists to commit into a role of like... Small enemy deleter? You won't drop a giant with that, but you can own average strikers pretty well.
Honestly I don't mind it, options like that are nice to have. I just wish HAR could have same amounts of ammo
dry pumice
Funny you say that
SRR seems to be using same base model
So technically you got your wish..
The monkey paw curls
soft crater
SRR?
heady moat
internally, it's actually defined as an SMG (and benefits from SMG damage boosters)
neon gust
hell naw
heady moat
its internal name is actually ||GEAR_SMG_Semi||
soft crater
I have not seen anyone abbreviate Short rifle to SRR. Tf.
I'm assuming that is what it is-
dry pumice
I have not seen anyone abbreviate Short rifle to SRR. Tf.
I had a Biden moment and thought it was "Short Range Rifle" for a second.
Technically checks out, but...
heady moat
I guess SRR disambiguates it from the SR
keen seal
who's gonna make the gtfo weapon abbreviations guide
heady moat
but then again you could just call it the CLR (seeing as it's called the Drekker CLR Short Rifle)
soft crater
but then again you could just call it the CLR (seeing as it's called the Drekker...
Yes. The abbreviated Clear command
Which gtfo uses Cls
But yeah
neon gust
but then again you could just call it the CLR (seeing as it's called the Drekker...
MANUFACTURER ALERT WOOOOOOOOOOOO WOOOOOOOO 🔔
dry pumice
Very accurate name btw, I love it
soft crater
when i see people use manufacturer names
I like using the buckland and malatack
It doesn't help
Drekker guns
All function differently from each other
Or like different roles
dry pumice
Really? I literally just was thinking the opposite.
soft crater
Aside from Rifle/ShortRifle
dry pumice
Drekker 556, Drekker CLR, and Drekker whatever Precision Rifle is.
All semi autos, all for mid range engagements. Seems to be a pattern.
heady moat
Drekker 556, Drekker CLR, and Drekker whatever Precision Rifle is.
and scattergun
soft crater
I like precision rifle. However. I do not like the thermal
I've contemplated many times just putting a DMR sight on it.
dry pumice
Everyone wearing top hats and sipping tea in sniping spots while Inei drools and blows up the room.
viscid sundial
Do you mean the short rifle?
yush sorry
craggy pier
Has always existed. But OG R6 nerfed/bugged it to basically be unusable unless y...
how are you supposed to use it?
just for projectiles? because dodging tongues with it doesn't really work
neon gust
its for when you fighting
not really for when you running around
when your fighting your strafing constantly and shooting
press shif and you can get a more space on that sleeper thats flanking you
its not a spam thing
viscid sundial
Slug being a special would be problematic because we already have a whole bunch ...
yeah but honnestly if your blaze your way around using slug shotgun you're gonna found yourself out of ammo really fast (and i mean just at alarm door, not shooting sleeping ennemies)
craggy pier
can you dodge backwards
neon gust
you should be able too
tardy ingot
Yes
viscid sundial
yeah but honnestly if your blaze your way around using slug shotgun you're gonna...
so it feel more like, a gun for shooting big sleepers
craggy pier
it feels weird
viscid sundial
so it feel more like, a gun for shooting big sleepers
i like the fun too but it really feel like a special put in primary
and i have the feeling of missing his point
reef lagoon
So, how do i actually dodge?
heady moat
So, how do i actually dodge?
Tap shift + direction
reef lagoon
Tap shift + direction
when i do that it literally jolts by a pixel. is it bc im running modded?
like, it almost looks like it freezes for a frame
heady moat
when i do that it literally jolts by a pixel. is it bc im running modded?
Maybe (but then again the dodge is kinda mediocre anyway)
reef lagoon
Maybe (but then again the dodge is kinda mediocre anyway)
ahh ok lol. ill try unmodded, then ill forget about it if it dont work
thx for the help 
dreamy garden
Slug being a special would be problematic because we already have a whole bunch ...
The biggest problem would truly be not being able to bring my Hel Rifle along side it 
olive robin
yush sorry
Short rifle and slug are specifically made to be weapons that feel like the wrong category
Short rifle is the main in special
Slug is the special in main
dry pumice
Funnily this means that they perfectly compliment each other.
soft crater
Maybe (but then again the dodge is kinda mediocre anyway)
I'd beg to differ but majority of players don't take advantage of it anyhow.
dreamy garden
Rundown 6 said we didn’t need it so I forgot about it
viscid sundial
Short rifle and slug are specifically made to be weapons that feel like the wron...
okaaay thanks ❤️
dreamy garden
Alright. So who’s the best prisoner?
civic wave
Robert
dreamy garden
I gotta say Bishop but-
torn slate
what zone is the extraction scan in in r8b3
steel trench
what zone is the extraction scan in in r8b3
Spawn
midnight tulip
since when can't you melee mines anymore?
wise thicket
|| Want does the secret code do? Does it cause a different ending or an achievement?? ||
crisp salmon
Does the slug shotgun count for the Close-Quarters Acheivement?
neon gust
Now it doe
misty kernel
evil looking thing in the ceiling? what is it
ocean spindle
:D
misty kernel
R4D1
pseudo kettle
Do the AI's alert hostiles in any way?
ocean spindle
Do the AI's alert hostiles in any way?
no, bots are COMPLETELY unable of wakin up sleepers
if they shoot, if they go through em, if they run, they dont alert em
regal tendon
They are also immune to infection as an added bonus.
pseudo kettle
Thanks
obsidian tapir
is there a difference between doing Secondary -> Overload vs Overload -> Secondary for R8C1?
thorny creek
evil looking thing in the ceiling? what is it
Evil looking thing in ceiling, in essence, refers to the unidentified malicious thing that dwells in the ceiling. This can be found by using natural muscle contraction of your neck in order to look up at the ceiling 
olive robin
Do the AI's alert hostiles in any way?
Bots
-cant alert enemies
-scout tendrils go through them lol it doesnt do anything
-all melee for them is cosmetic, this means a bot with knife or spear functions the same
-they ignore gun mechanics, example is firing burst weapons like a single shot semi automatic, or an automatic.
-they struggle with c foam gun and mine deployer, best with bio tracker, still fine with sentries.
-when using bio it has 360 radius and doubled range with half cooldown on marking or something
-will use melee in close range even if they should use guns so be wary of that
-they can pick up objectives, but will auto drop during alarms/combat so they cant be told to pick things up during error alarms/extract alarms
-if you enter a room with an objective item (turbine or cell for example) you can tell them to pick it up and they will path to the objective even if you dont know where it is
-their aim is decent enough, have a habit of shooting at longer ranges so dont give them shotguns
-they WILL stand in front of mine lasers so make sure you have them following a friend or you back well away from mined doors
-they revive people even when they shouldnt so avoid having the bot be last one alive
ocean spindle
why did u wrote a whole essay when they asked a question
olive robin
bot facts
ocean spindle
but like why
olive robin
cause new people dont know about bots and their peculiarities
wind wren
Can a mom get triggered by seeing a bot?
digital mural
Can a mom get triggered by seeing a bot?
no
wind wren
Thanks
digital mural
bots cant alert enemies in any way
wind wren
Fuck my wording was trash again. Does a mom seeing a bot make her spawn babies?
Or is that only for players?
digital mural
bots cant alert enemies in any way
wind wren
<:Knifykett:921759956087214092>
Well she's not being alerted.
digital mural
if she is awake
wind wren
Thank you very much, that's what I meant to ask
digital mural
lol
digital mural
u got got hahaha u dummy >:]
i got i got
wind wren
Holy fuck I gotta phrase my questions more precisely
ocean spindle
black_dragon'd
neon gust
Thank you very much, that's what I meant to ask
if you have 2 players you gotta bomb rush her if you have 3 then keep the "puppy" away
wind wren
if you have 2 players you gotta bomb rush her if you have 3 then keep the "puppy...
Imma be honest, at that point I'd just remove bot, kill mom, put em back in
neon gust
i understand your frustration
the safest approach
to mom when dealing with bots
its just to kill all the babies
then you go and hunt her down
otherwise the bot will go down trying to melee the 30 ish babies spawning right infront of his nose
sly dagger
is there a difference between doing Secondary -> Overload vs Overload -> Seconda...
to do overload you have to go past checkpoint door. So if you want to do overload and then die on the secondary, you will have to do both again
best to do secondary first
pseudo kettle
Bots
-cant alert enemies
-scout tendrils go through them lol it doesnt do anythi...
That's fantastic, one more thing, if you know, what pisses off the sleepers?
olive robin
That's fantastic, one more thing, if you know, what pisses off the sleepers?
if you
-sprint, all enemies wake up within 7m instantly
-walk, sends all enemies within 7m radius into glowing phase
-crouch walk, sends all enemies within 2m radius into glowing phase
enemy in glow phase will move to spasm phase if movement continues within 7m, continued motion wakes them.
shooting insta alerts all enemies in 50m
killing alerts within 3m?
olive robin
killing alerts within 3m?
with melee
ocean spindle
id say less if the enemy is not glowin
to awake an enemy while they are all sleepin they gotta be kissin
if it is glowin then yeah 3 4 meters
also ur flashlight
if u shine it quick it doesnt do anythin but if u hold it
itll wake up
pseudo kettle
if u shine it quick it doesnt do anythin but if u hold it
I did know that, that's why when I'm exploring an uncleared room, I click click click click click with the flashlight, so I can see
ocean spindle
u can also use glowies they dont alert enemies
valid plank
Pure Will Achievement: Complete R8D1 without using Medipack and Disinfect
Is it only me or the bot also must not using any of those?
ocean spindle
pretty sure the bots even like not usin it on them will automatically use them on u
so either way bots its not the way
ashen frigate
It would surprise me a lot if bots using those would not invalidate the achievement
It is not too hard of an achievement to do with 4 players
You can also pair it with the Shotgun one
(that is what we did when we tested them)
misty kernel
Bots
-cant alert enemies
-scout tendrils go through them lol it doesnt do anythi...
they ignore gun mechanics, example is firing burst weapons like a single shot semi automatic, or an automatic.
does that also work on giving them shotguns?
for ex: if i give them shotguns they wouldnt shoot from miles away?
will they wait for enemies to get closer?
heady moat
will they wait for enemies to get closer?
not really, iirc
olive robin
for ex: if i give them shotguns they wouldnt shoot from miles away?
they wont become more accurate
ocean spindle
shotties are awful for bots in general
misty kernel
got it
ocean spindle
even choke mod, with the range, its misused cause they balance ammo
olive robin
give them guns with range
spiral geode
did they remove burst cancelling?
spiral geode
😦 thx
narrow niche
idk abiut the other butst guns
Probably for all of them
south anchor
is the update out becuase i cant or dont know how to dodge
soft crater
The question is really. Is dodge even worth doing now that they made it consume stamina
It isn't a miniscule amount either.
olive robin
it consumes a lot
should prob be reduced
when it is used though it actually lets you get out of attack range
winged turtle
It isn't a miniscule amount either.
ooph, and if so then the answer is (basically) never
hazy wedge
The question is really. Is dodge even worth doing now that they made it consume...
How to disable dodge 😭 I'd rather get licked than not be able to run
ocean spindle
u dont u just dont use it
run with W
south anchor
thats odd becuasae it still doesnt work lol
ocean spindle
it does wdym
hazy wedge
Sometimes I look sideways while sprinting and it will do a dodge unintentionally 😔
ocean spindle
i tested it an hour ago
ocean spindle
Sometimes I look sideways while sprinting and it will do a dodge unintentionally...
if u keep holdin shift and then look sideaways i dont think it does it
only if u while lookin sideways press shift
soft crater
How to disable dodge 😭 I'd rather get licked than not be able to run
Learn to evade without using dodge
It isn't too hard tbh
south anchor
oooohhh, if you have sprint at toggle, it disables sprint. and if you have sprint toggle disabled, then you have dodge enabled.... weird
justy tested it in my settings
@hazy wedge ^
soft crater
oooohhh, if you have sprint at toggle, it disables sprint. and if you have sprin...
People actually use sprint toggle 
balmy plaza
is the entirety of rundown 7 only filled with fog levels?
south anchor
easier
hazy wedge
Learn to evade without using dodge
I mean I can avoid licks, but the dodging mechanic will make me consume more stamina than I want
And I will unintentionally use dodge
ocean spindle
is the entirety of rundown 7 only filled with fog levels?
no, but theres some
uh b2 b3 c1 kinda half of it, c2
uhhh thats it i think?
hazy wedge
oooohhh, if you have sprint at toggle, it disables sprint. and if you have sprin...
Wth 💀
ocean spindle
d1 doesnt have it and d2 less, e1 either, c3 no...
yeah think thats it
and a1 of course neither
hazy wedge
They shouldn't have added dodging back 
balmy plaza
uh b2 b3 c1 kinda half of it, c2
uhhh thats it i think?
my buddy and i did up to b2 so far and we're kind of tired with all the fog lol, are the rest of those fog levels as bad as b2?
ocean spindle
my buddy and i did up to b2 so far and we're kind of tired with all the fog lol,...
uh b3 but only near the end, the rest isnt like that agonizing theres very few spots like it
south anchor
@hazy wedge maybe just adda dodge key
ocean spindle
and uh sometimes c2 but, depends on if u go for sectors too
hazy wedge
Also is it just me or the r8 completion mask is orange and not red as the name suggests?
hazy wedge
<@239215873158676480> maybe just adda dodge key
Yeah if they do another patch 
hazy wedge
if u keep holdin shift and then look sideaways i dont think it does it
I just tested a bit and it still dodges even holding shift if I go sideways or backstep after sprinting forward
A bit inconvenient
neon gust
ah yes that a long time bug i think
its been like a year and a half since dodge got bugged and completly ignore
winged turtle
huh dodge mid sprint will take some getting used to
narrow niche
So broken
winged turtle
nah, it was broken, now just buggy
hazy wedge
Yeah I'm using more stam than usual because of unintentionally dodging
While fast stealthing
narrow niche
Bruh
winged turtle
never tried, but can you remap inputs?
balmy plaza
whats the dodge input again?
hazy wedge
I’ll check
But to put in perspective, I stealth a few sleepers which would raise my bpm to like 100-110, but now its up to 140+
naive vale
Ok so the dodge mechanic is like somthing from darktide? it just sends u in a direction really fast
mossy aurora
whats the dodge input again?
Press shift while strafing
naive vale
really strange that they dont allow you to remap it to a specific button. in darktide the only reason i find it fluent is because i can remap jump and dodge to different things
winged turtle
or press strafe while shifting
craggy pier
really strange that they dont allow you to remap it to a specific button. in dar...
quantity/quality oversight
craggy pier
now that BC kills giants perfectly, which one is more ammo efficient?
tepid sand
now that BC kills giants perfectly, which one is more ammo efficient?
Comparing against?
tardy ingot
sniper
dry pumice
what was? 60 bullets total or something?
craggy pier
what was? 60 bullets total or something?
59 i think
tepid sand
I recall seeing 45 in reserve
dry pumice
So that's ~20 dead giants VS sniper's uh... 18?
dry pumice
The main difference that sniper deletes them from any range in one click and BC needs to be at medium range and requires 2 burst in a row
and for some reason teammates fucking LOOOOOOVE walking in front of you when you burst
It just keeps happening
tardy ingot
i dont see how you get 20 dead giants
out of 66 bullets
when you need 6
sniper is also 15
dry pumice
Right, my bad
tardy ingot
just talk in refills man
craggy pier
11 for BC 15 for sniper
dry pumice
1 am base math
tardy ingot
max ammo is ass
tepid sand
and for some reason teammates fucking LOOOOOOVE walking in front of you when you...
You have some ass teammates
dry pumice
20 bursts is what i got
tepid sand
🗿
dry pumice
10 dead giants at slow pace, no skill
or 18 dead giants at instant pace, some skill
tardy ingot
"instant"
dry pumice
(+reduced team mate knock down chance)
tardy ingot
shot delay and 2 in mag
dry pumice
I mean instant headshot vs whatever it takes to unload 2 flawless bursts
On a good note you don't have to be scared of someone taking away giants' heads, since you don't need them
+BBC counter
craggy pier
actually yeah
the scattergun deals more damage with more ammo
or basically the same ammo
and now sniper is slow
maybe it's scattergun time
tepid sand
Hel shotty scatter is the meta
dry pumice
I actually kinda soured on it
tepid sand
slug is the meta
Slug is not meta
tepid sand
❌
tardy ingot
nano?
tepid sand
The burst pistol
dry pumice
Burst Pistol. The little boy. The Nano (canonically)
the itsy bitsy guy with the highest quality flashlight
dry pumice
I found it best to just forget about ADS with it
tardy ingot
nobody cares about the wonky names artek, 
you know that
tardy ingot
its a side grade to pistol
dry pumice
Head goes into the circle
soft crater
Pistol is better imo
soft crater
Burst pistol imo would feel better if it's shot delay was shorter
tardy ingot
burst pistol is similar to double tap rifle
but double tap is a mid range gun while burst is short range
and its far easier to hit bursts in short range effectively with it for the trade off of little range
kind badger
If I complete all the missions will I have all the skins or is the skin pool higher and it's rng if I get what I want?
tardy ingot
theres more skins than unlocks
because some were from og r6 (not available anymore) and events
tepid sand
Wesley goated 
tepid sand
Oh shit
kind badger
because some were from og r6 (not available anymore) and events
so if I ignore the old ones then from "current" pool I can have everything?
tepid sand
Lemme copypasta
soft crater
tardy ingot
so if I ignore the old ones then from "current" pool I can have everything?
some of the old ones are available in the current pool
soft crater
It was mainly objective clear specific ones that aren't obtainable from OG r6
Like do D1 or All overloads or smth iirc
OgR6 doing D1 gave Destination
narrow niche
It basically plays exactly how i played pistol
Hmmm this reminds me of the time you compared carb-
lusty bramble
Artek can't tell the difference
low vessel
has anyone tried to outlast the final wave during the tutorial/training mission?
i tried as long as I could to outlast the final horde before extracting, ran out of turret juice and i chickend out (idk why ive already done the tutorial, but i had an overwhelming urge to extract)
ocean spindle
eh fair enough
tepid sand
Hel gun/hel rifle usually does a pretty good job against chargers
fleet shadow
working on r3c1, and the last error alarm is difficult - hence the question
misty prairie
So, uh, probably wrong chat but pls dont point at me and laugh.
I've been playing gtfo last year and it was working all fine and dandy but i gave it a break and decided to download it again
But now game just wont run properly
It either kicks me out of main menu if i try to skip first cutscenes
Or i get to lobby, start to descend and my game crashes after like 5 seconds of loading
LET ME IN
LET ME IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN
300 hours in this game and it wont let me see the end of things, le big sad
neon gust
update drivers verify game cache
make sure you dont have a vpn on
also computer specs help
craggy pier
hi it's 3 am and i'm tilted af
how do i see shadow sleepers when they're awake and after you in a well lit area
It's completely impossible even with the best flashlight
ocean spindle
its not impossible with a flashlight
just be on the range of the flashlight
unless its really bright
then yeah
craggy pier
i had a sniper and a burst rifle
ocean spindle
ur gonna need bio or thermal
craggy pier
i couldn't see shit
ocean spindle
or just sense with ur melee
craggy pier
Why do shadows only react to your flashlights light
why is this a thing
it's so fucking dumb
dry pumice
Finally, someone else who sees the proverbial and punial light
I don't even mind the flashlight being the counter. Its how shit said counter is.
It only works at like 5 meters close. Even LRF can't light them until they are right next in your face.
And even then its not like the outline is mega obvious or anything, its kinda "better than literal 0" situation.
Hence why - for me - shadow levels require a mandatory thermal. Its fucking unplayable without one.
dawn egret
What happened to matchmaking?
ocean spindle
just say 'i agree'
ocean spindle
What happened to matchmaking?
uh its been always kinda bad but it recieved an update a couple days ago
and now u search by tier, instead of specific mission
dawn egret
An update that... removed it?
I just want to play R8A1 and I've been through 30 lobbies so far
craggy pier
welcome to gtfo
ocean spindle
it didnt eliminated mm but
it eliminated a bit of the, idk like use?
idk how to say it but id just recommend using the LFG
dry pumice
Actually... I think i'm expanding the brain and getting close to understanding this change.
past mesa
searching by tier is way better than by mission
craggy pier
SERVER BROWSER
soft crater
see friend in VC. I join friend
dry pumice
This change was purely for people who play GTFO casually and just want to find a level to play. In other words: vets who already beat everything. More likely to find people to just pop in and have some fun.
If you want a specific clear - devs simply to imply that you come here and do the LFG thing, otherwise go rolls the dice.
soft crater
This change was purely for people who play GTFO casually and just want to find a...
There is a vet post somewhere how the LFG system can be improved iirc
craggy pier
it can be improved with a server browser
dawn egret
The only possible advantage i can think of to searching by tier, is if there aren't enough people queueing for the mission you want.
craggy pier
like any reasonable game
soft crater
Current system was made a little better with small er numbers vs the 5 digit vc #s it was giving us. But it's still bad.
craggy pier
The only possible advantage i can think of to searching by tier, is if there are...
and they arent
dawn egret
Exactly
dry pumice
You just have to accept that Discord IS the server browser at this point.
craggy pier
battlfield 4 had a browser
tf2 had one
titanfall 2's modding community straight up made one
Deep rock galactic has one
dry pumice
Weird art direction, but... Devs gonna dev, what can i do but follow the rules of the game.
craggy pier
but discord has the sucky suck
also playing client makes the game feel like it's in beta
aaaaaaa
dry pumice
Oh definetely
soft crater
also playing client makes the game feel like it's in beta
Host your own lobbies then tbh
craggy pier
Host your own lobbies then tbh
if only i didn't have to wait 5 hours for a game
i would
dry pumice
I just played client with an american, i think? Them chargers were skipping some frames
soft crater
Though you lose out on things clients can do. That host cannot
dry pumice
How bad is your sync that guns don't feel proper.
Its like one tenth of a second offf
Its not game breaking, but just doesn't feel right
leaden trellis
is the ending different if you skip secondary on r8e2?
soft crater
Its like one tenth of a second offf
I know artek.
But this can vary if your system/connection isn't the greatest or the host isn't.
surreal lake
Client players in shambles whenever a surge alarm activates
soft crater
While it's mostly negligible. Several people explode it out of proportion
Guns feeling "proper" specifically
craggy pier
How bad is your sync that guns don't feel proper.
#gtfo-media message you tell me
the delay fucks you over a lot
craggy pier
i had one GTFO moment where i shot a striker, got the kill hitmarker, the striker LICKED ME, and then it died
craggy pier
yeah it got pretty bad
soft crater
Unfortunately only fix would be to host
Aside from maybe finding ways to improve connection or smth
Or if the host has a good connection
craggy pier
the game just doesn't play sharp if you're client
of course it's not game breaking
but it feels slippery
soft crater
The most I get out of desync is when I get killmarkers on strikers but nothing happens and I recharge again to kill.
soft crater
the game just doesn't play sharp if you're client
I've always played client tbf
But it seems you experience it every few moments or smth
craggy pier
also the fact that you get bizzare framedrops on top of all that
like idfk what's going on with that story
soft crater
I only get that if things are mass spawning
craggy pier
i have a new pc and it barely performs any better
soft crater
But otherwise it's fine
soft crater
I only get that if things are mass spawning
Specifically the map and etc.
craggy pier
does everyone have a generally low utilization of your gpu
while playing
i changed my GPU settings from power saving to performance but it did nothing
tepid sand
i changed my GPU settings from power saving to performance but it did nothing
CPU Culling set to small
Try it
🗿
craggy pier
done
hazy wedge
does everyone have a generally low utilization of your gpu
Game uses cpu more even tho I have cpu culling set to small
😭
gentle oracle
is the scattergun considered a shotgun for the shotgun only achievement?
I mean it feels like a shotgun
upper ginkgo
yeah it counts
hazy wedge
I mean it feels like a shotgun
Because it is a shotgun 😆
craggy pier
i have more 4 am questions
autumn dagger
Im doing R8C1 and we can start the next uplink terminal because it says theres one already going on
are we doing something wrong?
hazy wedge
In the Overload? Haven’t encountered that issue
autumn dagger
we are on main still
hazy wedge
Have you made it to the server farm
I don’t remember an uplink before that but then again, I don’t remember pre patch
hazy wedge
Someone else can answer for you. I don’t have a clear memory before the server farm zone
slim viper
question about weapons for r6d1
i can't decide what guns the team needs to have in arsenal for the end of mission friend
like 2x sniper would likely have been on our docket before
but with the nerf i can't decide
narrow niche
4 sniper
ocean spindle
uh one sniper should be good u dont really need two, just one person focusing the thing and the rest controllin like normal enemies
so, maybs a combat shottie or machinegun or somethin for wave control
a shottie- whatev u feel works for the alarms
narrow niche
Trust me
ocean spindle
and for the funny enemies
ocean spindle
why are u like this
slim viper
Reactor skip
lol. one of my quad likes to do the reactor
ocean spindle
i like to do the level its a very fun level
narrow niche
uwu
slim viper
uwu
ocean spindle
fuwuck
narrow niche
Hm
slim viper
o.O
hazy wedge
If you don’t want sniper, just stick with hel rifle
ocean spindle
ur gonna need more of those tho can otherwise it can take a while
2 of 30 dmg should be good
sniper just does a lot of dmg to the funny
hazy wedge
Yeah hel rifle’s prec bonus is ass
ocean spindle
yeah the usual
narrow niche
Or something equally appalling
ocean spindle
0.73
hazy wedge
Tbh just suffer with sniper if you want to be quick
slim viper
thanks everyone
silver fable
i can't decide what guns the team needs to have in arsenal for the end of missio...
people have discussed precision rifle for kraken
narrow niche
Ehhh
silver fable
it should be viable, I've done kraken with mid-range specials with not great precision multis like HAR and hel gun
(though it was pain)
narrow niche
Yeah but a lot of guns are technically viable
silver fable
PR should be better than those loadouts for kraken
narrow niche
Yes but what do you lose for it
Also won't the tumors be the same color as the kraken when ads
silver fable
Also won't the tumors be the same color as the kraken when ads
no idea, maybe?
narrow niche
Fair but sniper is much better for kraken
silver fable
my guess is you're right
narrow niche
Aiming for tumors would be dookie then no?
silver fable
tbh I just don't want to do r6d1 on the current patch
narrow niche
That's fair
silver fable
(or in general, I'm not a fan of the level)
hardy grotto
PR is good
sniper losing a bullet in mag and feeling like ass is enough to just never bring that shit
At least there’s still an argument to be made for PR
also you can see the tumors pretty clearly in thermal
narrow niche
Ah