gtfo-related-questions

[ocean spindle]

i usually just never take em lol

[junior quiver]

just out of curiosity, what's the highest class alarm?

[ocean spindle]

think is a class ||X||

[junior quiver]

that's wild

[ocean spindle]

but idk i dont remember there may b somethin higher but thats the one i remember

and it happens once every blue moon

[junior quiver]

that's still wild

considering VII is the highest I've encountered so far

[visual iris]

class 10 is the highest yes

[ocean spindle]

funny level ik which one u talkin about
but like depends on the tile n stuff

like that VII is not far from an X, but the context of that X its much more complicated

[junior quiver]

there's a few VII alarms I've encountered, but X is wild

[ocean spindle]

a class IV seems very low but on r1c2 the last IV can kick ass

[junior quiver]

oh 100% that's what can kill the run

it depends on how well you've conserved your resources to that point

[ocean spindle]

it depends also on the tile n the enemies and even kinda the spawnpoints and the shape of the zone

[junior quiver]

So, in large rooms right, can enemies spawn there?

or is it always in a different room?

I did some reading about that but if the room is really large does that reduce the range for spawnpoints?

that's what I meant to ask^

[ocean spindle]

its always two rooms away from the player, theres some alarms that defy this rule usually some special ones but for the big big big most part, its 2 away from the player, so even in usually large rooms like idk r6b2 r1b1 r2b1 they spawn two rooms away

what u mightve come by its for example, in r1b1 they cant spawn two rooms away if u dont open any door

[junior quiver]

ahhhh ok

[ocean spindle]

so the spawns are forced into just one room away, from the place u drop in

[junior quiver]

that makes sense

i was trying to figure out why they were spawning closer than I had thought

[ocean spindle]

yeah dependin on the level u can force spawns closer
theres also some set spawns n stuff but those usually are way more uncommon to come by, like r7b1 where one alarm for some reason spawns enemies one room away in a smol zone

but its usually always two

[junior quiver]

ok

thank you

[bold swan]

Hello! There is some sort of sorting here so that I, as a Russian player, can also find Russian-speaking people

[ocean spindle]

helloo, u can check #hc-europe message, its a gtfo server in russian

or if u want to be in this server, u can check the LFG channels to post and join lobbies

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[bold swan]

thanks!

[full frost]

are we able to join gtfo by ID without joing discord call?
we need 1 player for r1a1
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[uncut rune]

playinf r7c1 any recommendations for loadouts?

unfortunately we have two bots with us so we just have 1 with burst sentry and the other biotracker

[dry pumice]

Biotracker is fine.
Bring cfoam, that's for certain.
Weither you want a mine or a 2nd sentry - up to you. Both can provide value in that level.

never give cfoam to the bot though

[uncut rune]

yeah we made sure of that

[hazy wedge]

You could do 3 sentries too weapon loadouts aren’t too strict on that lvl imo

[eager lantern]

Why not give Cfoam to bot? Never had an issue telling it to foam doors

[digital mural]

this
3 turrets work very good

1 bio

[uncut rune]

ahh s guns dont matter to much then

[digital mural]

my team used machineguns

[uncut rune]

ive just got bullpup and combat shotgun n me and bots with machineguns

[digital mural]

i recommend you being the one with machineguns

[hazy wedge]

My team did it with hel shotgun and bc, all 4 sentries before

But since you have bots, the bio is recommended

[digital mural]

no bio? damn

crazy stuff

[hazy wedge]

Yeah grabbing the samples or whatever was chaos

[uncut rune]

kay we ball lets just see how it goes lma

[digital mural]

well

2 of you can stay behind

the other 2 searchs

[hazy wedge]

We play crazy

[digital mural]

crazy is more fun

[hazy wedge]

Also

I do not recommend doing R7C3 with bots

[eager lantern]

Still wondering why cfoam bot is a no go

[hazy wedge]

Especially when you get to overload

[dry pumice]

They don't understand sightlines and there's a chance they will fire cfoam at a wall or a pillar

[hazy wedge]

Because with a player, you can perma foam doors during alarms

[past mesa]

Try to get them to c foam a door

[visual iris]

they will cfoam from where they are standing meaning they can hit walls railings...etc

[eager lantern]

Have done it many time

[digital mural]

bots like to do stupid shit all the time

[visual iris]

make sure they have clear line of sight of the door or enemy u want them to cfoam

[past mesa]

Have you seen them just miss?

[eager lantern]

No

[dry pumice]

Also the best value out of cfoam is acquired through using it boldly with imagination, and that's just not an option with bots

[past mesa]

One sec

[past mesa]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/585063132553281556/1154094678082334740/image.png?ex=6570a3ed&is=655e2eed&hm=108b2dcbc01a6ced88f0137cba432932ff008e432ba0ce9006cf20d994c2ff5c&

[eager lantern]

And I get it now, bots basically have a preset action and if conditions apply they will just entirely fuck it up

And it's not flexible

[digital mural]

LMAO

[past mesa]

This is all to common

[digital mural]

what the fuck

how can they fuck up so bad

[neon gust]

because they foam from theyre position instead of the door position and they dont have a check for walls or pillars

[past mesa]

#gtfo-media message

[eager lantern]

Guys, the question has been answered like 15 times I got it

[neon gust]

bio bot its the bes bot since its automatic on its deployment and lack of maintance
sentry because its 99% foolproof
mines if the level its slow

[past mesa]

No I must continue

[digital mural]

HAHAHAHHAH

BRO

[past mesa]

Beat this dead horse like an academic

[digital mural]

the bots in this game are just... something else

[brisk swift]

Bots sometimes aren’t great with foam

[neon gust]

@eager lantern THEYRE BAD DAWG

THEYRE DEVIOUS

YOU UNDERSTAND

[eager lantern]

👍

[ashen frigate]

This clip never gets old

[cold quarry]

I love the complete lack of LOS check

same with fog repellers

[full frost]

when i copy lobby id, it wont show up on my game

how you guys find it?

[digital mural]

theres a button that says "join lobby" left side of the screen after you copy the lobby id

from someone else

in you are hosting a lobby theres a button that says "copy lobby code" on the right side of the screen

[full frost]

it's just

• Select rundown
  -Training
  -Matchmake

[digital mural]

after you copy the lobby code there should be a button on the left side of the screen

i think its above matchmake

#how-to-matchmake @full frost

[dry pumice]

If the button is not appearing - something's not working. Check if you copied empty spaces by any chance, and if not - its some other technical issue.

[lucid sonnet]

Is the sniper sentry bugged? have had 2 missions now where it targets a single enemy and can't retarget, effectively meaning it only shoots once or twice during an alarm

[dry pumice]

Depends on your definition of "bugged", but generally yes - the poor thing is not in a great spot right now.

Its essentially worthless if targets are not highlighted by the biotracker ping, even WITH the ping assist - the damn thing is just too slow, and only works on giant maps with sightlines for days.

There's not many of those...

[lucid sonnet]

My definition of bugged: " it targets a single enemy and can't retarget, effectively meaning it only shoots once or twice during an alarm"

Whether or not it's good is not my question at all

[ocean spindle]

id ont think thats a bug

[dry pumice]

That's not a behaviour i heard of. I just know its tardy on aiming time, so it can appear that way easily.

[ocean spindle]

its probs a funky placement, not enough time to aim or enemy excesive movement

[dry pumice]

It only shooting 2-3 people a wave is pretty much normal.

[ocean spindle]

sniper sentry works really well on bigger targets cause of ther slow pace and high dmg

and with bio it becomes faster

and so its in a bit niche position but it is useful

in some levels

[lucid sonnet]

So could be placement issue, I'll have to see about that, thanks

[dry pumice]

It also easily loses targeting if enemy passes by some cover or another.

On a certain level i watched just ignore 3 big, massive targets, and i was the fucking host.

3 gorillas just dancing in front of the thing, and it doesn't fucking care.

[neon gust]

not bugged

requires biotags to shoot

since the aquisition time its long

[dry pumice]

To be fair you never know with this game

[neon gust]

symbiosis help a lot

[dry pumice]

It could be easier to say if we saw a screenshot of the placements and where enemies come from

[lucid sonnet]

All 4 sentries seem to have the same visual indicator of the green light passing back and fourth, but the shotgun and sniper clearly have different ranges of 10 and 50 meters respectively

[dry pumice]

Yep

[lucid sonnet]

So that green light isn't actually acurate at all is it 💀

[dry pumice]

Unfortunately we are currently suffering from Burst Sentry supremacy

[neon gust]

green just means that its active

white that its empty

red that its shotting

[lucid sonnet]

Yeah but like the visual indicator of the cone

[neon gust]

no

[lucid sonnet]

yeah xD

[dry pumice]

I mean... It should be, but wouldn't be surprised if its not representative at all.

I just pray that it generally represents the cone angle

But it doesn't show range, that much i can say.

If there's any cover in the way - boxes and what not - sniper sentry will struggle a lot because it resets when it loses the target. It only truly shines in a perfectly clear field.

For everything else you bring Burst and call it a day.

[neon gust]

gotta love the extremes

[dry pumice]

Also it should be shining against giant enemies because it deals astonishing ~50 dmg a bullet and aims for the head too, but there is no specific behavior for who it aims at - it will shoot the first target it sees, simple as.

Which is not helpful when a giant wave comprised of 15 small enemies and like 1-2 big ones walks in.

[neon gust]

sentries shoot the furthest target artek

you can see that ingame

[dry pumice]

Literally never noticed that

[ocean spindle]

and bigs walk slow :O

ohh now makes sense

my r1c1 strats keep shinin with the one sniper sentry

[dry pumice]

I just assumed its the closest because that's what makes most sense. Now it does, sometimes, shoots random enemies in the middle of the pack of R1C1, and i just... I don't even know how what to do with that information.

Sniper sentry behaviour is a fucking mystery to me.

[neon gust]

literally all sentries behave the same

i dont know whats a mistery

[dry pumice]

So you're fucking telling me that both burst and shotgun will aim for the furthest enemy they see

[neon gust]

yes

but for shotgun it doesnt matter

[dry pumice]

Motherf~... This fucking game, man.

[neon gust]

its not a factor

sniper you can see that after it kill the first guy it sees then it switches to a targer further away

[ocean spindle]

yeah i mean u put it at chokepoints, shotgun sentry

[dry pumice]

They could at least fucking write it in the description. Who the fuck would ever assume for that to be the case.

[ocean spindle]

why woul u not do that

[neon gust]

because it really doesnt matter

aslong as the sentries are shooting you dont have to care about them

[ocean spindle]

i mean everyone praises burst sentry and it does the exact same thing

[dry pumice]

WELL IT MATTERS NOW, because there's now actual strategy to sniper sentry placement

[neon gust]

all sentries behave the same but its just theyre cone, distance, range, speed that just changes

[ocean spindle]

yeah put it, in a long range place

where it aims

thats it

wdym

[neon gust]

what the hell are you talking about

theres no strat

its literally rng

[tardy ingot]

you place it to shoot

[neon gust]

artek you on drugs

[ocean spindle]

u place it where it aims EVA GO SNOOZE

U SAID U WERE GOIN TO BED

[tardy ingot]

no

im in bed

[ocean spindle]

:[

sleep

[tardy ingot]

if brain would

[ocean spindle]

put funny music leave the phone smh

funny calming music

[dry pumice]

I will now come up with Goldberg machine style setups to make sure that the smalls are separated from bigs and so sniper sentry shoots bigs as a priority, just because i can.

Because that's clearly what the game wants me to do

for fuck's sake

[neon gust]

single bioping

[ocean spindle]

what the fuck

[neon gust]

removed just to torture artek

[dry pumice]

You mean the one that got cut and no longer works

yeah exactly

I'm this close to crying from quiet laugher

This game refuses to do cool things

[ocean spindle]

i wont change a thing about my strats and u keep torturin urself with stuff that doesnt matter and even works in ur favor for sniper sentry since bigs walk slowly and hybrids hang in the back

good luck with that

[neon gust]

I mean single bioping its useless

it the grand scheme of things its useless

why ping 1 guy

you wanna ping everything

so it benefits your team

[dry pumice]

They could give it a reduced cooldown or something

[neon gust]

not just 1 sentry

[dry pumice]

Instead of 5 seconds or whatever it is, you give it like... 1 second

And you can just point out all the priority targets

[lucid sonnet]

People pls I just asked a question about sentries no need to fight 😭

[neon gust]

?

[dry pumice]

Also i forgot how exactly single ping worked: did it pinged the closest guy or could you like aim at the guy?

[neon gust]

aim at and you had to ads

[ocean spindle]

are u really askin like again for the one single ping with bio that literally ive never seen anyone defend

[dry pumice]

Don't worry, that's normal.

[ocean spindle]

i have my boxin gloves dont worry

oh theres some nails on em

woops

[lucid sonnet]

d:

[dry pumice]

Well, they nerfed sniper sentry into oblivion and the ONE mechanic that could make it viable is currently not in the game. So yeah, i'm a little upset.

[tardy ingot]

It wouldnt make it viable lol

[neon gust]

i dont know if you remember

[tardy ingot]

like not at all

[neon gust]

yeah

[tardy ingot]

single bioping was troll af

[neon gust]

Artek really chug that disinfect pack

[ocean spindle]

nerfed sniper sentry into oblivion
did they tho

[dry pumice]

All they have to do is to give it a different cooldown

[ocean spindle]

is it really hel auto sentry levels now

[dry pumice]

Like 0.5 of a second or less

All the issues solved

[neon gust]

artek

its useless

[dry pumice]

Top tier biotracker gameplay

[neon gust]

you can just ping the entire wave

[ocean spindle]

what is this take

[neon gust]

and get 100% of the benefit

[ocean spindle]

this is the most funky take

[dry pumice]

And have sniper sentry shoot 50 dmg bullets into 20 HP enemies?

Sure, if you say so.

[ocean spindle]

they aim at the eneimes on the back- ok

[neon gust]

symbiosis literally refunds the ammo

what are you talking abourt

if you truly wanna fix that

you fix it so that when you bioping the wave

The entire wave

[desert sluice]

Hey let me weigh in here for the sniper sentry talk. Im the person trying to use it with mofire. The problem Im having is the visual sweeping green indicator. What its doing is this: The sniper aqcuires and kills a target, the indicator even changes to orange to represent this. From there, it stays orange, no longer sweeps and will not shoot anything again. (afaik)

[dry pumice]

I'm talking about an ability to actually play the game in interesting ways, instead of having one fit-for-all solution.

[neon gust]

it will automatically aim at the giants

so it will be "efficient"

[dry pumice]

Yeah, that would be a perfect solution.

[neon gust]

single ping its useless

[dry pumice]

Alas... The chances are low. But hope remains.

Where's that goddamn R8...

[neon gust]

r8 aint gonna fix nothing

they alreayd messup this game

[dry pumice]

Do only clients see this behavior, or does host sees it too?

[ocean spindle]

playin the game in interesting ways [suggest the feature no one liked]

[neon gust]

fr

single bioping its so useless

literally the reason everybody wanted that to go away

[ocean spindle]

u wanna play in funky ways? nab hel auto

its way funkier and funnier

[desert sluice]

I actually dont know. I think everyone sees it.

[civic wave]

I feel like this would be to do with sniper sentry being slow

I mean, I don't think the sentry lines really indicate anything

[dry pumice]

2 possibilities then:

1. You did indeed encountered a unique bug where sentry gets locked up somehow;
2. It functions as "intended", but a combination of slooow target acquisition combined with bad visual feedback creates a feeling like its bugged.

[civic wave]

if they get stuck in one state it wouldn't disable the sentry, just the feedback that the different states give you

[desert sluice]

Im thinking that might be it but often times when a wave is done and i go to grab it it seems the sentry has the same orange indicator and is locked onto the first enemy it shot.

[dry pumice]

So like: everyone's dead, room is clear, music is gone, but the thing's still red and staring into nothing?

[neon gust]

its called desync

[desert sluice]

yes

[neon gust]

its just that

[desert sluice]

every time i use it though? wtf man. my internets wack

[neon gust]

its not a unique bug

like lmao

you guys talking like there something rare going on

[dry pumice]

Hm. That is weird.
If only clients see it - its just a GTFO netcode moment.
If host sees it too - big shrug from me.

[neon gust]

its just doodoo internet

it used to happen when i play with a alpha

[desert sluice]

just trying to get to the bottom of why my game isnt responding the way its suppose to. like the good ol halo 3 online days.

[neon gust]

my man from vietnam

[dry pumice]

Yeah, that's just... This game in a nutshell whenever you are not the host.

[desert sluice]

thanks for the help fellers

[dry pumice]

You should've been here during Sniper Melee era. Fun times.

[neon gust]

^

[modest monolith]

☕

[paper surge]

Is the scope reticle accurate on the precision rifle? Or should I aim with screen center? The reticle moves around a lot and I swear I'm whiffing shots that I have lined up.

[turbid horizon]

Reticle should be accurate

[paper surge]

it seems unlike most other guns. Most other guns the center of the reticle stays locked pretty much at screen center

[uncut rune]

guys that r7c1 was so fkin hard becoz bishop was so incompetent

like we cleared it thankfully but oh lord was bishop a pain in the ass

[ocean spindle]

bishi tries his best :[

[neon gust]

its like a couple of pixels off

dmr too

[ocean spindle]

shouldnt matter tho i think

i mean it moves cause of the recoil but thats, the normal

[neon gust]

nah

[uncut rune]

nahh this was too much

[ocean spindle]

qwq

[neon gust]

unless you really pixel shooting the head of an enemy

[uncut rune]

we r tryna do scans and he just wants to fight the wave time and time again

[past mesa]

depends on your fov

[ocean spindle]

qwq he tries to take weight off the wave smh my head

[sleek widget]

Hello everyone. Tell me, please, I found a file in the terminal marked "video" is it possible to play it somehow?

[ocean spindle]

a file in a terminal?

a log u mean?

or where

[timid grove]

burst cannon is best for tanks right?

[ocean spindle]

pretty much yeh
scattergun u could make it work just has short range so depends

and snipers nice to it from a distance

but burst cannon its like both

[sturdy glen]

scatter fucks tanks up if you can do it properly

[timid grove]

also why dose hel rifle feel like it has a shorter charge up then hel gun

[grizzled widget]

i've never heard of this... would greatly appreciate if you could post a picture or proof otherwise in #gtfo-lore. it'd be incredibly interesting to look into

[sleek widget]

Yes, logs

[sturdy glen]

because it does

[ocean spindle]

it has

it just has a bigger delay between shots

but charge time its 0.1 vs 0.3

[sleek widget]

I'm newbie in this game and I don't remember all the commands. But I wrote a command that displays readable documents

[ocean spindle]

to read one, you can input READ and then the log name, like READ REACT04_823.LOG

[sleek widget]

If I someday I'll find it again

[ocean spindle]

or READ SHC_23J_KSN

[grizzled widget]

(its the video thing he said i'm interested in. as far as we know, there are zero video logs)

[sleek widget]

🤔

[ocean spindle]

idk would be funky we suddenly got a video when we never got one

but unsure

[sleek widget]

I can say, that it was a number name

06983 video

[ocean spindle]

what level did u saw it on?

[sleek widget]

First mission

With capsule

[ocean spindle]

R1A1?

[sleek widget]

Maybe

I hope I'll find it again, since I didn't make a screenshot, thinking that this is the norm

When entering the "read" command, it gives an explanation in the form of "read [document name]"

And the command to play, as I understand it, does not exist, since it is written about this in the terminal

[timid grove]

if hel gun has less damage and more charge time then hel rifle then why take hel gun?

[ocean spindle]

hel gun is tons more flexible, more adequate for bot small and big enemies due to its good firerate, dmg [oneshot any small with a headshot], and specially reload time which is very very very short
hel rifle its more dmg but has less way ammo in mag, it takes way more to reload and its just more made for big enemies

hel rifle its a solid choice for many enemies and levels

[past mesa]

hel guns shoots three times before

hel rilfde 2nd shot

[ocean spindle]

but hel guns just more flexible

really its only drawback its the 0.3 charge

which takes time to get used to

[timid grove]

alright good discription

anyplace where it realy shines

[ocean spindle]

being so flexible, pretty much any mission that doesnt require a specific weapon
like any level that doesnt have chargers, or a ton of giants, or shadows in case u prefer idk precision rifle

[sturdy glen]

third hel gun shot is at basically the same time as second hel rifle shot

[ocean spindle]

on r1, a1 b1 b2 c1 d1 are all good with hel gu
and it is also not bad with chargers u could take it

its just a two shot i think?

yeah a two shot

its 16 dmg

[sturdy glen]

pretty much everywhere if youre good with it

[sleek widget]

In general, hel gun kills big guys quite well

[ocean spindle]

it does it just cant do it as fast but it is good

[sleek widget]

Agree

By the way, do giants have weak points besides their legs?

[ocean spindle]

their legs arent, really a weakspot

i mean i guess u stagger em

but the only weakspots are the head, the back, and in the back of the head

so if they are walkin to u, pretty much only the head

[sleek widget]

Understood, thanks

I thought that if their legs become bony, then this is a weak spot, huh

[ocean spindle]

nah, if u shoot the leg u will stagger it, but u will also if u hit the chest or pretty much any other part

[sturdy glen]

thats a new one

adding it to the list

[sleek widget]

Understood

[ocean spindle]

even for some guns the headshots dont matter lol

like a shotfun or a high cal

[sleek widget]

List?

[ocean spindle]

misinformation list probs

its ok we all start thinkin weird stuff

[sturdy glen]

^ ye

(theres not actually a list, its a joke)

this game has a funny effect of just magically generating loads of misinfo

[sleek widget]

Understood

That is, headshots are a universal weak point?

[ocean spindle]

pretty much except for, a couple enemies that r probs spoilers rn dependin on how far ur into the game

u will see em when u need to

[sleek widget]

Okay, thank u^^

[timid grove]

should i be adsing with the scattergun?

i feel like that makes it worse

[sturdy glen]

it has no effect

[visual iris]

anything goes

[wind wren]

by how much does the spray decrease when scoped in? cuz the big ass crosshairs dont seem to be accurate at all for most guns

[hardy grotto]

you should use the accurate crosshair mod

it gives you an actually accurate crosshair for hipfiring guns

You’ll find hipfire is more accurate than the default crosshairs lead you to believe

Default hipfire reticles are only accurate for like 55 fov

if you go above that gl

Scoped in feels pretty pin point accurate tho so it’s my preferred way of shooting guns usually

[wind wren]

alr ill try that thanks

[wind wren]

oh... yeah that kinda makes sense

[olive robin]

idk why they dont scale reticles in base game

[soft crater]

[soft crater]

Inb4 it gets considered an "advantage"

[ocean spindle]

no i dont think it will

[topaz anvil]

55 fov gang rise up

[ocean spindle]

i have 60

[olive robin]

it isnt

i checked

quote
"As long as it effects only the crosshair and doesn’t change the way the weapon works then that mod is ok. We still highly encourage you to notify any teammates about you using some QoL mods before starting a match to verify it is ok with them as well.

-meatyloaf#0"

[topaz anvil]

this sucks. I might have to use pubs to play more GTFO :(

[olive robin]

pubs...?

u mean like lfg and stuff?

[topaz anvil]

public lobbies

ye

[ocean spindle]

at least u can play pubs

[topaz anvil]

why cannot you

[ocean spindle]

i cannot host lobbies

and geforce kicks me after an hour

[topaz anvil]

ah cloud gaming

[paper surge]

which FOV is it accurate?

[ocean spindle]

the circle of aiming its always the same, its coded to 55 fov
but aiming down sights has no relation to FOV

and if u hipfire the recoil moves it a ton and the hipfire on precision rifle i think its also kinda bad cause its imprecise

[gleaming dust]

sowhen i try to run certin rundowns they work but other ones don't it just boots me to the main screen, why?

also sometime the map will randomly work again? such as R5D1 i cant play cause i get booted

[soft crater]

It's sarcasm crab.

By what loaf said as well contradicts "if it provides an advantage outside of vanilla game."

The mods stuff I've just grown tired of 10cc not being straightforward on what is and isn't Allowed.

Moderation team from my understanding is fine just doing their part but can't do much beyond instructions and moderation from above.

[dry pumice]

Are you running any mods at all? Is your PC alright? Tried reducing graphics slightly?

[hidden ridge]

True but I'll be sincere: in most cases I've seen it kinda goes beyond common sense

Stuff like the team damage tracker is obviously fine but modded weapons isn't

Out of all the times I've played in pubs

The main culprit was the "ping everything", then the "modded weapons/axe/whatnot" then the "stack resources"

Then there's the times people spammed deleted voicelines or whatnot

The first PERSONALLY I think it's fine (I dont use it) even if I know some think it's cheating, I'd say it's debatable-ish at least

The last one is probably fine but I hate it when people abuse the shit out of it

The modded weapons and stack resources clearly are not allowed as they directly change the gameplay

For better or worse I dont think it matters

[soft crater]

You forgor perfect boosters

[hidden ridge]

I wanna know now: what's that EXACTLY? People getting endless amount of 100% perfect boosters or outright "700% melee damage"

[digital mural]

700% melee damage? im pretty sure perfect boosters cant do that

[soft crater]

The second part of what you said there is more of a Custom boosters thing

[sterile citrus]

^

[hidden ridge]

Yeah well

regarding shit like that the issue is that I cant really check, can I?

[soft crater]

You can easily tell

[digital mural]

perfects boosters just make boosters have max % and have infinity uses

[hidden ridge]

If guy X got lucky or just used that mod

[soft crater]

If someone is using custom boosters

You can't view them

[hidden ridge]

yeah but not perfectly rolled ones?

[soft crater]

Learn the % values.

[hidden ridge]

and?

They ARE rollable normally right?

[soft crater]

Otherwise run ModList

Modlist is a dependency for perfect boosters

[hidden ridge]

I feel a certain irony on having to run a mod to check if someone's using a game breaking mod I'll be sincere

[digital mural]

perfect boosters isnt game breaking

[soft crater]

You need a mod to have steam even track recently played and etc.

[hidden ridge]

Or I just add people on discord if I really want...

[dry pumice]

Debatable

[soft crater]

I use it more to track cheaters steams

[hidden ridge]

Well anyway the point is that if I've no way to tell if guy X is using that mod without having modlist

I'm just going to assume he got lucky

[soft crater]

Then refer back to my first point

Know the % values

[hidden ridge]

Innocent until proven otherwise

[soft crater]

[hidden ridge]

And?

Again

The %s are technically probable

right?

[soft crater]

An example here.

[digital mural]

[soft crater]

An aggressive 99% infection resist is possible in vanilla

However.

Perfect boosters will also show 99%

But it is actually 100%

[hidden ridge]

So from the inspect they look like 1% less than perfect but they're perfect?

[soft crater]

For the most part yes.

[hidden ridge]

That's still way too hard?

[soft crater]

A normal aggressive inf res 99% would need a muted or bold inf res combo to have immunity

[soft crater]

Then tough luck sleepo.

[hidden ridge]

Yeah for infection it's KINDA noticeable

[hidden ridge]

It's not really luck

[dry pumice]

Its a little unclear and undefined, since vanilla boosters can break a game just fine (99% res for infectious levels, 50% refill for maps where people struggle with resources, etc...) but at the very least they have an RNG and risk/reward/punishment element to them where:

• you have to actually get it (by playing the game and hunting for candy)
• you get to use like 3 times at most and you have to make it count or else it goes way and its back to vanilla gameplay

[hidden ridge]

it's 1% less than anything I cant see how you'd be able to notice

1% less supply efficiency?

[civic wave]

for infection res it's how the boosters work and not a mod using a different display

it literally just rolls the maximum values there is no -1%

[soft crater]

[hidden ridge]

Are those rolls ALSO able to appear on LEGIT boosters?

[soft crater]

Doesn't change the fact a vanilla 99% still gains a 1% infection

[dry pumice]

Perfect boosters completely removes the RNG and risk element, you can just keep spamming the 99% on a green level and effectively neutralise a major challenge element of that level.

[civic wave]

I have used a 15% muted and 84% aggressive and had complete immunity to infection in r4e1

[soft crater]

While a perf booster 99% will have complete immunity

[civic wave]

same as someone who had a 99% inf res booster

where the hell did you get this information/testing from

and yes, it is possible for a booster to roll perfectly in the base game, but unlikely

[hidden ridge]

thanks that's what I wanted to know

So I never bothered with that because if it still has a probability of dropping I've no idea if guy X got lucky or used that mod

and sure as hell I ain't going to keep track of who used what booster in previous games

[soft crater]

I've used a 99% inf res back during og r6 and didn't have complete immunity

[civic wave]

if it's got perfect values it's safe to assume that they're running perfect boosters for it

[digital mural]

99% res is in fact immunity now

[soft crater]

Next to encountering someone several months back who also had a 99% but still gained without perf boosters

[civic wave]

especially if they're running multiple boosters

[soft crater]

Unless it's been changed at somepoint

[civic wave]

multiple boosters is a dead giveaway

[hidden ridge]

ehhh

say they're running an E they might have shit saved

I'm not gonna go detective mode

[soft crater]

Perf booster users can freely abuse boosters without losing them so yeah.

[digital mural]

i mean

if someone has 3 boosters with perfects %

thats sus

very sus

[soft crater]

Unfortunately modlist or detective mode

[hidden ridge]

It's what I also hate towards people who cheat "sneakingly" compared to people who never reload

[robust field]

could also be a matter of how often they use the boosters

if you see them use a 99% inf res booster 10 separate times, probably not legit

[hidden ridge]

Yeah but in a pub scenario you aren't going to run more than 4-5 times with the SAME players

[civic wave]

"eh sure I'll chuck a booster on for this" in voice chat normally means they're not running mods for boosters, if they silently put it on then shrug (not foolproof)

[hidden ridge]

When I had to pub my way on r7e1 "our" group changed players a fuckload...

[soft crater]

Awhile back a month or 2. There was 2 groups of newbies running perf boosters. interesting group but it was bad.

Mightve been longer ago

[neon gust]

boosters where a mistake

creative perks woulda been so much better

but thats all they could spit in 7 months

[gleaming dust]

I have no mods

and grafics didnt help lol and my pc is okay i have tried reinstalling and such and didnt help lol

[neon gust]

update you graphics driver

make sure your running on your dedicated gpu

[gleaming dust]

i am

also have verified files

put as administrator etc

[cinder lance]

did the precision buff to spear give way to new breakpoints?

[dry pumice]

Uuuuuhhhh... You can get a reliable 2-hit kill on giant shooters and hybrids by going Occi > Head, but that's about it.

Smalls die itsy bitsy faster too (require less charge, that is).

[minor fractal]

Probabilistically, you can tell if a booster is much more likely to be perfect or not.

Especially for people that spam them.

Also, most people do not understand dependencies well enough to not use Mod List w/ it.

[soft crater]

you can't use perfect boosters if modlist isn't enabled with it

[minor fractal]

You can.

You go into plugins, and you delete the file.

[soft crater]

at the very least not though the usual mod manager

[soft crater]

tbf most people use R2/thunderstore mod managers

in which I believe should

[minor fractal]

Most people are, in-fact, not very smart.

[soft crater]

still be doable there

[minor fractal]

and do not know how the files the mod manger uses actually work.

Hence why I said "most don't do not understand dependencies well enough"

[soft crater]

shrugs

welp.

sleepo would have no choice but to detective mode the boosters

but modlist should still weed out majority that aren't using that method ray

[cinder lance]

lol

thx for the info

[soft crater]

this can be done with hammers as well

I'm not really sure aside from partial charge times being shorter

[dry pumice]

here i go doing math again

20 x 4 = 80...
20 x 2 = 40...
80 + 40 = 120
30 HP left

vs

26.25 x 4 = 105...
26.25 x 2 = 52.5...
105 + 52.5 = 157.5
7.5 dmg overkill

Hammer needs two occis in a row, spear needs only one and then a headshot from whatever angle it likes.

[past mesa]

What math are you doing

Are you account for head breaking on first hit or are you double hitting

Wait hybrid?

The double occi is free on both hammer and spear is your on the right side

[verbal zinc]

can you double occi me?

[past mesa]

Na I don’t play gtfo I am a lethal company sweat

Just here to shit on people that play the inferior horror game

[verbal zinc]

ok

[tepid sand]

You tell them boss

[craggy pier]

Alguien de España?

Para jugar al GTFO?

[verbal zinc]

trabajo si

[soft crater]

tbf the way it's worded is weird

[craggy pier]

Alguien de España para jugar al GTFO

[soft crater]

occi > head
instead of
1 hit to occi then 1 hit to head from whichever angle

[verbal zinc]

muy bien

[soft crater]

you used a greater than symbol

[supple gust]

fuck sake why no gifs

[soft crater]

because

no

[ocean spindle]

wnaaas, podei checar #hc-latin-america para un server en esp [tmb incluye a españa]
o si querei bscar aqui mismo en este server, podei checar #lfg-latin-america #lfg-western-europe #lfg-eastern-europe para compatir y unirse a lobbies, nomai siguiendo como la guia de #how-to-matchmake

[verbal zinc]

trabajo?

[soft crater]

[neon gust]

no trabajo

[verbal zinc]

amigo

[ocean spindle]

no perras?

[verbal zinc]

soy espada de fuego!!!

[ocean spindle]

el espadazosflamas

[verbal zinc]

arrrrrriiibaaa

[past mesa]

Trying to hide your crimes from the mods I see

[ocean spindle]

y jish es jish en español porque no tiene traduccion hahaa

[verbal zinc]

keep it gtfo related pls

and question related

thank you

[ocean spindle]

ill just write every sentence ending with an ?

[verbal zinc]

thats fine?

charger scout?

[digital mural]

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[slim viper]

That's that's Extreme cooperative FPS Horror game to you sir

[timid grove]

how many attempts of R4E1 befoure i go insane and spawn cap tanks with the door glitch

[ocean spindle]

70 :3

[civic wave]

You're already insane if your solution is to doorbug tanks instead of an alarm wave

[timid grove]

🙂

[vale raptor]

does a class S iii alarm mean its a surge alarm or an S type scan

[ocean spindle]

s type

surge will say, surge

on the door

[vale raptor]

gotcha ty

[sturdy glen]

why even play then

[neon gust]

For real

The level its not that crazy

Tanks are so easy to deal with

[jagged shore]

The level is so fun why would you do that

[modest monolith]

kinda weird when you want to use door glitch instead of practice killing tanks

like how hard could it be to kill a tank ?

[soft crater]

[bold ginkgo]

you would be suprised

[ocean spindle]

i would b not lol

[lucid sonnet]

Isn't the IIX Syringe supposed to give infection? I didn't get any after using it twice

[ocean spindle]

its an rng thing, u can get very lil infection or a lot

think its like 3 to 12%

anythin between that number

so if u get 3 and 3 u wont get even 10%, and it wotn show up

oh its from 3 to 10%

[visual iris]

experience 🔔

[lucid sonnet]

Ohh you don't see infection below 10

fair enough

[ocean spindle]

its a smol smol bar

but the infection text and coughs and everythin appears after 10%

[timid grove]

whats the most satisfying wepon to use in gtfo

[soft crater]

scattergun on a single baby striker

point blank

[ocean spindle]

i like the feel of the revo a LOT

and the feel of the sniper

[neon gust]

Revo hands down

[ocean spindle]

its two guns that have probs the cleanest sound and most satisfyin recoil

[neon gust]

And smg for the asthethics

[ocean spindle]

that too

smg its one of the guns that looks more gtfo than any other

[neon gust]

Yeah

I remember i bougjt gtfo and i was like damn

That smg look good

Smg and revo look so good on its design they look oddly similar too

[ocean spindle]

i dont see much similar but yeah i love their looks

i also love the burst cannon look, idk why those levels like in guns always r so appealing to me

[timid grove]

any wepon that can get the orange burst himarker in one shot or a bunch of them at once it extremely satisfying to me

[ocean spindle]

lol very specific

well hel weaponry

um scattergun sometimes when aiming at a horde specially

sometimes very rarely sawed off, but its hard

[sturdy glen]

any weapon can do it cuz its just a kill marker

leads ppl to get funny perceptions of weapons

byeah, scatter, bc, and hel weapons minus auto like slendi said

[olive robin]

Idk I really like the shelling pistols

High cal especially

Wish it had more range though

But it's already so good

[solemn flint]

1 question

how would u normally deal with r6d3

do you go 3-1 to shut off the error alarm

then sleath the tank zone

[sturdy glen]

theres like 5 or more diff ways to do it with various alarm cancel "cheese"

funnest way is 4 in, shoot up the tank zone

[solemn flint]

Without alarm cancel cheese how many more way do we have?

Expect the fun obivious no brain way is to go rambo mode

[sturdy glen]

the cancel stuff is all after youre already in

though some of those methods require the 4 in

you can do whatever mix you want, the error isnt hard and the stealth isnt hard

[solemn flint]

But how do u cancel error cheese?

I think you need 1 uplink terninal to cancel it

Isnt it?

[sturdy glen]

when you get to the deactivate terminal

you have access to a class 6 you go through after

you can cancel that

or you can do the class 6 during error and cancel smth after it

etc

the most normal way to do the level is probably 2-2 split no cancel cheese

[solemn flint]

So how do you cancel

I need a lesson on terminal cancel stuff

[sturdy glen]

its a deactivate alarms

it deactivates alarms

the error alarm turn off thingy turns off every currently active alarm and cancels all queued waves

uplinks just happen to also do this

[solemn flint]

So i just need to pull the door then cancel alarm right?

[sturdy glen]

yea

[solemn flint]

Sound easy enough

[sturdy glen]

yeah, it kinda just needs you to know its possible

its why its pretty cheesy

[mossy aurora]

Peter Nguyen.....

[modest monolith]

☕

[solemn flint]

im learning new gtfo technology

[dry pumice]

I sometimes use it to show a sequence of actions. You can read it as "Then", depending on the context.

[soft crater]

can still cause confusion regardless :/

[hidden ridge]

Just so you dont do the same mistake I did the first time: put DEACTIVATE_ALARMS or whatever it was only AFTER the error wave of the timer of finishing Main runs out, NOT before

Basically you want to wait for that timer to run so that the alarm actually starts, otherwise there'd be nothing to deactivate outside of the error from Overload

[topaz anvil]

Stop encouraging cheese 😔

[hidden ridge]

I did it normally in OG

To be fair I feel like it doesn't change much

Cheese makes Main a tad easier

You still have A LOT of time for Extreme tbh

So I feel like all that does is make you do Overload under more pressure but to be fair you still kinda are since fog goes up when you shutdown the reactor I think

If anything doing the cheese makes the checkpoint is kinda meaningless

Since you'd have even more shit to re-do

I remember taking the time when I did the cheese to check when the alarm started for Main

And basically noticed that we still cleared Extreme kinda fast

Like, we'd fucked up the timer of like 30 seconds but I dont think that'd meant much at that point

[soft crater]

It's not like this cheese is a mishap on the devs.

[tardy ingot]

Just do main -> overload -> secondary

no error to shut off ad meh sneak + melee

shorter time for secondary

Hurried overload fun

[lusty bramble]

R6d3?

You cant do it in that order

[soft crater]

You can.

Unless that's been changed in Alt

Never did check if it was possible in Alt

[lusty bramble]

Bulk is required for either main or overload

No?

[soft crater]

Bulk key is at the end of main

You should get another at the end of overload

This strat is mainly so you have unlimited time for secondary

But so tight on time so eh

[turbid horizon]

It does work

[lusty bramble]

Don't think I've ever done it that way

[soft crater]

Pretty much complete overload within 15minutes

Use deactivate_alarms the moment the surge starts

[lusty bramble]

That'd work yeah

I think that's how black dragon beat it

[craggy pier]

Hello I am new to GTFO and thinking of buying the game. I was wondering is it worth buying and playing the game?

[lusty bramble]

Wait until they release rundown 8 with whatever sale they have for it

[dry pumice]

Do you like high difficulty and using your brain?

[craggy pier]

I like a challenge

[dry pumice]

Plenty of that around

[lusty bramble]

I'd still wait for their next sale

Should be less than a month

[dry pumice]

We got 100 hours worth of content right now

So it's worth it, if you're ready to deal with the quirks

Like the fact that this discord is pretty much THE matchmaking.

[turbid horizon]

Isn’t it 35% off rn

[craggy pier]

Oh is it that difficult

[turbid horizon]

i swear it is

[lusty bramble]

I said the next sale

[turbid horizon]

why tho

[lusty bramble]

It's going to be big

😉

[turbid horizon]

mmmyes

[dry pumice]

It doesn't show its teeth for first like... 15 levels and then it bites ya.

And it's like "Oh... Oooohhhh..."

[craggy pier]

Ah how is communication with others

[dry pumice]

Discord.

[tardy ingot]

Yeah but now dont do that and do secondary fast af

Or dont finish main and then do overload before ending main

[dry pumice]

So... Decent?... Important too.

[tardy ingot]

R6d3 is so diverse in order possibilites

[craggy pier]

Alright thanks

[lusty bramble]

It's not that crazy

[craggy pier]

Should i buy it now or wait next month sale

[tardy ingot]

It is for a gtfo level

[lusty bramble]

Gotta wait for next month's sale

[turbid horizon]

I mean idk if it’ll ever drop below 35%

[tardy ingot]

rn is safe

[lusty bramble]

What zero content does to a perspective

[tardy ingot]

I doubt it would go above 35%

[turbid horizon]

but maybe for R8, who knows

[lusty bramble]

The next sale is big

[tardy ingot]

[turbid horizon]

I still doubt

Because the game’s only source of revenue is game sales

[lusty bramble]

I can't share details

But it's very big

[turbid horizon]

Mmmm sure

[dry pumice]

It literally never went abovd 35% yet.

[craggy pier]

Im conflicted between ready or not and gtfo which one to buy and which one to wait on the nect sale

[lusty bramble]

It was free for an entire weekend

[craggy pier]

Which one should i gp first

[dry pumice]

Sure, you can wait for 50%...when the game is dead already.

[lusty bramble]

Definitely ready or not

[dry pumice]

I haven't played RoN but something tells me it's a superior product.

[lusty bramble]

It has a functional in game matchmaking system

[dry pumice]

Gtfo is very... Flat, can I say?...

[turbid horizon]

eh I still prefer GTFO

[lusty bramble]

Says the moderator of the gtfo discord

[turbid horizon]

community + modding makes it better imo

[turbid horizon]

And why do you think I moderate for it lmao

[dry pumice]

But hey. It's shooting monsters in a dungeon vs shooting junkies in a basement.

Whichever kicks ya more.

[tardy ingot]

Gtfo and ron are different

[ocean spindle]

throw a dice and choose one of the two

[hidden ridge]

Ah yes poor man's SWAT 4

wowzers

[lusty bramble]

Let me know when they update swat 4

[turbid horizon]

Also RoN they are shooting back

[craggy pier]

I think il go for ready or not first then gtfo

[turbid horizon]

Gtfo they are not

[lusty bramble]

Great idea

[turbid horizon]

End of the day, your choice

[ocean spindle]

i guess u could say u were
ready C:

[hidden ridge]

I think GTFO's probably more peculiar than RoN

[lusty bramble]

Peculiar

[turbid horizon]

Peculiar?

[hidden ridge]

While you might not like GTFO's gameplay, RoN is well, like what you expect

[hidden ridge]

peculiar?

Individual, special

[lusty bramble]

Gtfo is a cooperative horror action shooter with a survival twist

You play it like a cooperative horror action shooter with a survival twist

[turbid horizon]

Ah yeah, you’re right

[lusty bramble]

It's a lot more surface level than people make it out to be

[hidden ridge]

I don't think the stealth present in GTFO is like one of other "cooperative horror action shooters" albeit I'll admit not many come to mind?

[turbid horizon]

honestly this game really does feel like no other that I’ve found

Stealth might be shallow, but it exists

[lusty bramble]

I played red light green light when i was 8 years old

[hidden ridge]

nice, what role did you do? the bad example?

/jking

[lusty bramble]

That's a crazy comeback

You should've stuck by it

[hidden ridge]

I know I keep it for the hard times

[lusty bramble]

For the longest time they tried to capitalize on fomo

[hidden ridge]

Point being, everything else considered, rando guy A probably has more chance of liking RoN than GTFO in my humble opinion

[lusty bramble]

Seems pretty on par with current games

[hidden ridge]

I always had the impression that in their original plans they assumed to be churning out a rundown every month or whatnot

[lusty bramble]

Yeah but then markiplier stopped playing the game

[hidden ridge]

Yeah, true

[lusty bramble]

Cyberheist early access is where it'll be at

[hidden ridge]

Cybernetical Burglary is going to fix it

[craggy pier]

One of the reason i got interested in gtfo is when markiplier played it and how coordinated they were

[lusty bramble]

It was big publicity for the 9 people working for 10 chambers

Having the game almost be entirely done and stripping it down so you can release it in bits and pieces during an early access works really well for a small team

[dry pumice]

Same actually. Teamwork is very much encouraged around here.

[lusty bramble]

Then they got 10cent money and instead of putting it into production they put it into branding since their low cost game was still low cost

[sleek widget]

as I understand it, the locations are passed several times here? Yes?

[dry pumice]

Not sure I got the question?

[sleek widget]

under the inscription "quality of artifacts" it says "passed [1,-,-,-]"

[civic wave]

that's your level completion counter

the dashes denote that the mission has no optional objectives

[dry pumice]

It's a completion counter (how many times you've won, which objectives)

[civic wave]

[Main, Secondary, Overload, Prisoner Efficiency] (prisoner efficiency is doing main + secondary + overload all in one run)

[sleek widget]

Understood thank you

[cedar dust]

Btw which nationality is pablo?

[topaz anvil]

brazilian

[cedar dust]

damn, i was sure he is colombian. thanks to the explanation

[dry pumice]

Did sniper rifle always had LRF junior installed on it?

[neon gust]

yes

[outer dome]

anyone know what artifact heat means

and what the percentage is

[ocean spindle]

artifact heat its a way to measure how valuable are artifacts to the progress of a booster
for example
100% artifact heat means one artifact gives 0.15% of a booster
but 50% artifact heat means one artifact will give 0.07
when the number hits 1.00, a booster is given.

[dry pumice]

Its a mechanic to prevent people from grinding same level over and over to acquire boosters quickly.
Artifacts is how you acquire boosters.
Each artifact contributes a certain amount of progress towards a booster. Usually about 4-5 artifacts = one booster.
With each sucessive expedition attempt (wether failed or won) artifact goes down from base 100% down as low as... I don't even know actually, like 35-45%? So you have to acquire twice the artifacts for one booster.
It does NOT affects the actual amount of boosters in the mission.

[tepid sand]

20% is the lowest booster heat level

Booster heat mechanic is per rundown

[timid grove]

i left for 1 day

the fuck happend round here

[ocean spindle]

people talk sometimes

so the chat its filled up

oh u mean the lfg i guess

[timid grove]

YES I MEAN LFG

wheres the cannels

[dry pumice]

New QoL feature to clean up the server visuals

Having 200 separate channels was too much

So now we just make up channel as we go, and then disband them once they are no longer needed

[timid grove]

omg

[tepid sand]

It's the same format as SoT Discord

[timid grove]

4 and 5 are still alive

[dry pumice]

Oh, they are...

The sheer spite

[civic wave]

20% for cleared missions, 50% for uncleared missions

[whole grove]

What is going on with the LF groups #'s?!

[civic wave]

it's somewhere in the discord announcements

[jagged shore]

#discord-announcements message

[timid grove]

why dose the afk voice exist? cant you be afk wiithout being in a voice channel

[civic wave]

To remove people from blocking vcs if they've been afk for an extended period

Was more relevant before the rework I guess

[timid grove]

what are the uses of the shotgun sentry

[ocean spindle]

um chargers and chokepoints
on ladders they r nice and great, and with bio u can technically save a lot of the ammo they waste by shootin extremely fast cause of symbiosis

[timid grove]

symbiosis?

[tepid sand]

For sniper + shotgun sentry, biotracked enemies give a slight boost to the sentries

Namely locking speed iirc

Unless I have fucking brain rot for not playing for so long ._.

[ocean spindle]

yeah detection speed and extra ammo

they basically, shoot faster

on r7 it was called symbiosis

[native sun]

Mostly it's just funny to watch it shoot 12 times and kill one enemy, useful for a good chuckle

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Guys, in the last game, a friend found some tt audio diary about an unknown signal. It was like the sounds of a sofa being moved by a neighbor from above. Does anyone know what this thing is?

[digital mural]

check #gtfo-lore

[eternal bridge]

Wait wtf?! I didn’t even noticed that the gtfo VCs changed

[cinder lance]

how's sniper sentry holding up?

[narrow niche]

its a sentry thats for sure

[ashen frigate]

It shoots at targets (preferably pinged by a Biotracker)

[narrow niche]

as long as it isnt auto youll be fine

[narrow niche]

ong

and shoots you

[ashen frigate]

And bots (who sometimes just love standing in front of them)

[narrow niche]

yes yes

contest between the bots vs the turrets shooting you

will dauda beam your head with a full mg drum when you activate a sleeper for 1 picosecond?

yes

[cinder lance]

dauda the true mvp

does things no one else will

yeah, a shame auto sentry still kinda in its own lil' hole

[narrow niche]

auto sentry says hel but

theres no pen

dont ask me

[cinder lance]

i will ask you

[narrow niche]

no

[cinder lance]

robert

[narrow niche]

[cinder lance]

is burst sentry still popular

never really used it. biased against burst fires 😏

[narrow niche]

burst is still op

:D

so is carbine

and burst cannon

dw

:D

all the burst

[cinder lance]

so true bestie

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I cant be trusted with full auto. I will magdump

[narrow niche]

[narrow niche]

just use sawed off

simple

[cinder lance]

give me my trusty dmr and sniper and i'm set 🥸

[narrow niche]

sawed off scatter vs dmr sniper

[cinder lance]

battle of the ages

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Ultra close range vs Ultra long range

[narrow niche]

ok hear me out here

hel shotty

combat shotty

massive kills / mag

[cinder lance]

but can i ask you

[narrow niche]

no

[cinder lance]

no

something about being accurate that draws me in, even though i wanna beat the shit out of dmr for not one shotting strikers

but i also never used those either 🥸

i assume dmr is still the same though

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Hel shotty is underwhelming from my experience. Compared to the sawn off, it lacks the destruction ive come expect from shotguns.

[narrow niche]

eh

skill issue tbh

one of the best mains

[lilac widget]

yea

[cinder lance]

is it strong in its dmg or pen

[narrow niche]

bot

h

the mag

[cinder lance]

or all the above?

[narrow niche]

size

ong

the mag size

[cinder lance]

the gtfo of all time

[narrow niche]

best kill/mag for a main without using pen afaik

along with dtr

if you double headshot everything

for dtr

oh yea

the stagger too ig

it can one mag a giant ig :D

[cinder lance]

wut's dtr

[narrow niche]

double tap

the funny

the hilarious

[cinder lance]

the one and only

[narrow niche]

anyways

just always use hel autopiss and pr

win

[cinder lance]

yuck

[lilac widget]

whats pr?

[cinder lance]

sounds poopy

[narrow niche]

pres rifle

[cinder lance]

what's pr?

yuck

[narrow niche]

bruh

[cinder lance]

sounds stinky

[narrow niche]

ong

real

[keen seal]

it is indeed stinky

[narrow niche]

its automatic

[cinder lance]

sniper rifle 😎

[narrow niche]

artek say it

[cinder lance]

long ranged friendly fire 💪

[narrow niche]

[dry pumice]

Hm?

[cinder lance]

hi artek

[narrow niche]

what were you typing

[cinder lance]

ur the fella that answered my spear thing right

[narrow niche]

spear best melee

trust

[cinder lance]

i remember seeing a predator but not pfp

[dry pumice]

I think so

[cinder lance]

so that's what you were typing this whole time

a lot of time to say i think so

[dry pumice]

Nothing, my phone auto types random shit sometimes

[narrow niche]

oh yea the wiki for the combat shotty says that the only automatic mains are the mgs and the combat shotty