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#gtfo-related-questions
past mesa
hardy grotto
I’m cooking up a consistent strat
past mesa
bread got mad at me for soloing dog during the ellcips run
soft crater
bread got mad at me for soloing dog during the ellcips run
Pogchamp
neon gust
solo giant
wind wren
Solo knife Pablo
How many enemies does it take to clog up a cfoamed ladder? Only 1 or is it more?
wind wren
That's a lot more than I thought. Does that mean all of those will be using up the cfoam simultaneously? Or how does that work
Oh also is there a way to approximate how much cfoam is needed to keep enemies stuck at a ladder for a certain time?
past mesa
Oh also is there a way to approximate how much cfoam is needed to keep enemies s...
It depends how far away you get
past mesa
Yeah once you are 2+ rooms if you have more than 60% it tends to last the full 5 minutes
Enemies 2+ rooms away behave werid
What level is the c foam strategy
wind wren
Oh right, I remember being told smth abt that. Alr so aim for 60%
wind wren
What level is the c foam strategy
Mmmr4e1
We're trying to not let 2nd tank spawn/if it spawns get it blocked on ladder by smalls
past mesa
Mmmr4e1
We're trying to not let 2nd tank spawn/if it spawns get it blocked on l...
Watch the Peter Beth Robert speed they do this
wind wren
Watch the Peter Beth Robert speed they do this
I did. But they got extra tool right of the bat so I was wondering if that was necessary
past mesa
@hardy grotto
tardy ingot
extra tool is just a tool to delay them longer
i had all the numbers written down for % in size of blobs (different amounts of blobs) on ladders when 1 or 2+ rooms away
past mesa
Sometimes they foam door it probably doesn’t matter
tardy ingot
as i did by far the most testing on this during r2e1 speeds
wind wren
Okeoke. Gud to know, its just we'd also be using a couple of blobs on door so I was very unsure if we'd have enough
wind wren
Sometimes they foam door it probably doesn’t matter
Oh, I see
tardy ingot
the extra tool is massively helpful in getting 2+ rooms away
past mesa
2+ rooms is free r4 e1
tardy ingot
Sometimes they foam door it probably doesn’t matter
Its to delay so you can foam ladder reliably honestly
wind wren
Well for r4e1 for that ladder it's fortunately very easy to get the far cuz the next rooms are small af
tardy ingot
once you are 2+ rooms away you get an rng amount of enemies usually. But r4e1 seems to be very consistently 1 enemy being stuck
funnily enough the break even harder there (remember the thing we found out jish)
so you basically just need enough foam to keep 1 enemy foamed until last scan is over (max ~4 min due to foam disappearing)
wind wren
the break even harder there?
wind wren
so you basically just need enough foam to keep 1 enemy foamed until last scan is...
And how much would that be? Like 50% of cfoam?
tardy ingot
they wont attack until they went up and then down
tardy ingot
And how much would that be? Like 50% of cfoam?
just use all
wind wren
even if you come back and jump down
Oh ye ik that, its very funny
tardy ingot
dont make blobs bigger than 2 full charges tho
unless you have extreme excess
anything above 60% per bubble is wasted tho
wind wren
Does it have diminishing returns?/does it just delete the cfoam above that like it does on doors?
tardy ingot
foam bubbles have a limited amount of blobs they can take on (iirc)
you do get diminishing returns depending on spend % per bubble on a ladder tho
idk why that is tho aside from potentially eating up foam twice or some shit
wind wren
idk why that is tho aside from potentially eating up foam twice or some shit
I would say I think that wouldn't make sense since I'd think itd be considered one entity but this is gtfo and I have no clue what's going on half the time so 🤷
Very good to know though
Thanks for answering my questions : D
timid grove
do yall think that sleepers can live there entire lives without there head? like when we just leve them down there headless and they go back to doin sleeper shit do they die later on?
ocean spindle
i think they just vibe
i mean its not like they need the head
they just need, as much of a host as they can get
cold quarry
do yall think that sleepers can live there entire lives without there head? like...
I don't think they need to eat or bleed out or anything so probably
spiral parrot
quick question... me and my friends were playing a long time ago like at least a year ago. we played a mission that was a cicular hole in the ground. you start at the bottom and move up the sides via stair cases with your whole team in a moving bioscan upwards. We just got back in the game and want to try to get back to that to beat it. Does anyone know the rundown?
ocean spindle
most probably r6c1 it's the mission ur talkin about
it's on the ending, the final section of the level
jagged shore
sounds like r6c1?
ocean spindle
yeh
spiral parrot
thank you guys so much thank you and have a nice day
solemn flint
1 question
how tha fuc can lowering the screen resolution make the game 1000 times better
lone tusk
less intensive for ur gpu
solemn flint
i guess gtfo will never be optimize
but shesh
just by changing from 1080p to 480p give me addition 10 fps
floral acorn
guage the f* out
golden niche
any mision u guys recomend for 3peaple ive done r1-a1(6times) r1-b1(4) and r1-b2(1) but me and my 2friends cant get past r1-c1(reactor) any tips or should we just try r2
dry pumice
any mision u guys recomend for 3peaple ive done r1-a1(6times) r1-b1(4) and r1-b2...
3 people should be enough for R1C1. Just bring 3 sentries, shoot good, loot good = easy win.
You can also add a bot as 4th unit and give him Biotracker.
If you're really that hardstuck - sure, move on to R2.
golden niche
tnx my man
narrow agate
where are the Russian rooms?
dry pumice
where are the Russian rooms?
midnight tulip
how to unlock achievements?
golden niche
tnx my man
les go we clutched r1c1 with 3
modern osprey
Why all the monster shirtless?
dry pumice
les go we clutched r1c1 with 3
Well done!
visual iris
Why all the monster shirtless?
why are you asking and not killing
midnight tulip
whats the distance for one circle on bio tracker? 10 meters or 5?
visual iris
5 meters each
untold loom
New player here, is there a reason no one is joining my R1B2 lobby?
Like is the map annoying or hard or something?
minor fractal
New player here, is there a reason no one is joining my R1B2 lobby?
It is 1:15 on Thanksgiving for EST rn.
Probably not the most active hour.
midnight tulip
R1 missions are usually the fastest to fill cuz they're the easiest
that and people like helping beginners
midnight tulip
there's a big mother at the end of ||R3D1|| right?
keen seal
there's a big mother at the end of ||R3D1|| right?
yup
midnight tulip
also why is she called "pee mother" by some?
dry pumice
Because P Mother
midnight tulip
what does the P stand for? Primordial?
dry pumice
Either Proto or Prime, we dont know.
But in some level or another the objective are containers that have "P-Mother sample" written on them.
So it's almost a canon name, we just don't know what P stands for
midnight tulip
I see
hazy wedge
R2A1 has you collect pmother samples
ocean spindle
there's a big mother at the end of ||R3D1|| right?
probs best to spoil the enemy and not the level
minor fractal
So it's almost a canon name, we just don't know what P stands for
It is not, because it is a misnomer.
The enemy and the samples are completely unrelated.
fierce walrus
Yeah
dry pumice
Perhaps, but then why are they called that?
fierce walrus
the samples?
I think they were for some other project
or had smth to do with the creation of units
tight blaze
hey since im a bit new can i have some advise on how to beat r1 the admin in the best way
jagged shore
are you playing alone, or with people, or with bots
tight blaze
bots
jagged shore
where are you dying
tight blaze
on the part were u put the key card in the door
jagged shore
you can probably get away with just using 3 sentries as long as you put them all facing the doorway they're gonna come through
tight blaze
k thanks ill try that
placid ember
you can also give one of the bots a cfoam launcher and tell them to foam the door shut, this should give you plenty of time to finish the scans
and then focus on shooting
tight blaze
k
jagged shore
i would not recommend giving bot cfoam of all things lol
that's like the one thing i wouldn't
tight blaze
ill try both
jagged shore
just because they can be finicky with how they spray it
placid ember
eh, its the first level you dont have to be ultra efficient
tight blaze
thank u to all who helped me since i have now done the first level
olive robin
Bots are best with scanner, sentries are second best, mines are third, foam is fourth I guess
Mines are low cause they struggle to place them sometimes
visual iris
Bots are best with scanner, sentries are second best, mines are third, foam is f...
they are better with foam than mines
dry pumice
Respectfully disagree
At least with mines its binary of either "I can't do that" or they just do it
With cfoam there is a chance they will straight up just misuse it by shooting it somewhere else and thus wasting resources
Just recently had it happen on R7B1 with a Cfoam grenade. I point dead center of door, tell him to throw - he throws it a goddamn wall instead. Not far away from the door, mind you - but insultingly close instead. Its right there, and yet it's precisely where its not gonna do jack shit. Not even on the floor, goddammit...
Either you're the foam guy, or there's no foam guy - its that simple with bots.
tepid sand
Bots with mines >>> bots with cfoam
visual iris
i assume u havent used em much then
ocean spindle
bots with mines >> bots with foam but they r ok in both
tho i have the mines
cause i just like usin em weird
visual iris
there is a delay before the command kicks in their gears and they may or may not do it
if there are any active enemies or during an error or an alarm they will not place mines 80% of the time
dry pumice
Aaaand?
midnight tulip
just place them before the alarm then
sturdy glen
they also wont go through the door youre trying to mine anyways
visual iris
they also try to place mines from weird angles if there a door is colliding with some wall
dry pumice
Usually if a level requires bold mining - either i'm not doing it with bots or i'm picking a mine deployer myself.
Except then they undermine that as well by getting stuck behind a door and...
Personally i just don't consider bold mining a viable strategy if i'm playing with bots. I just need them to help me slowly setup alarm preparations, and that's that.
tardy ingot
now imagine making bots foam during a situation where you wanna quickly foam and mine
brrrrt into a wall
neon gust
I will make a whiole document of bot feedback
Detailed to the bone for them to ignore
Its gonna be a banger
sturdy glen
now imagine wanting to do literally any fun play with bots
neon gust
Bots are good until your star maiing decision
dry pumice
New ALT Better Bots idea
dry pumice
Give aimbot, but take away their tools (or hardlock them to biotrackers or whatever).
Literal turrets, nothing else.
neon gust
ALT better bots
i mean alt r6 was mostly just mods slap into the based game
so they might as well
civic wave
please do not add cheats to the base game thank you very much
at that point you might as well get self res, resource stack and heroic heart too
I mean I don't think they would change bot behaviour but who knows, they might surprise me
neon gust
please do not add cheats to the base game thank you very much
ignorant
orchid solstice
whats heroic heart mean
A client-side mod makes it possible for players to control their heart rate.
orchid solstice
that's the description of the mod
tepid sand
i tought it just removes stamina
No you can set the cap
Usually you just set it to 60 to have inf stam
neon gust
Bad modding moderator 😭
orchid solstice
at that point you're basically cheating
tepid sand
I only know this because I had to complete that one modded level with like 60 billion spawns 😭
With ocelot
soft crater
sturdy glen
at that point you're basically cheating
that is indeed what literally everyone who uses it uses it for
modern osprey
why are you asking and not killing
Because killing is bad : (
amber bloom
I can't find the lobby code
amber bloom
Okay we have 3 people, how do we start with just 3? @digital mural
digital mural
Okay we have 3 people, how do we start with just 3? <@1107851904911937597>
there should be a button that says "start expedition"
and thats it
amber bloom
oh it doesn't let us start. What am I doing wrong
orchid solstice
oh it doesn't let us start. What am I doing wrong
you all have to ready up, and then it gives the host the option to start expedition
digital mural
you all have to ready up, and then it gives the host the option to start expedit...
he is matchmaking
lol
waiting for a 4th guy
thats why he cant start
orchid solstice
what
haughty wyvern
What's the best loadout as a more "support" role?
ocean spindle
support like in alarm? depends tbh
i mean i guess the 'obvious answer' its the hel autopistol since its a stagger weapon, not a dmg weapon
but i doubt its actually useful in many many levels
lone tusk
hel shotgun wld be btr imo
ocean spindle
id say u just kinda go more for weapons that u feel u can kill with and supply the team with that it lacks
like if u see 3 snipers
might as well go machinegun to be the support for lil enemies
soft crater
hel shotgun can be support. but let's be honest not everyone uses it that way
lone tusk
LOL
ocean spindle
i think hel shottie is more made to be spammed at a wave and kill it not so much to support it
soft crater
so can auto pistol
lone tusk
yea
ocean spindle
not as much dmg as other guns
yeah but its a two shot, with hel penetration, if u spam it at a wave, the two shot kills most enemies, the stagger makes em be at the same place, the full auto continues, and its a mag of like 14 or 12 or somethin
so u can take, a whole wave
with good placement
its not made for individual enemies
soft crater
but helshotgun you can still be a close range dmg dealer
lone tusk
i mean it really depends on what your team brings
soft crater
auto pistol can't do that
ocean spindle
kinda, id say it depens more on the level
cause its short range
so in somethin like an r1c1 its
very eh
rose stirrup
for r4b2 overdrive, is doing the blood door or the class 6 alarm better?
hazy wedge
for r4b2 overdrive, is doing the blood door or the class 6 alarm better?
Depends what your team wants honestly. Some people say blood door, others go for the alarm. If you’re doing blood door, expect lots of enemies after the tripmine tho
golden bluff
what happens if I get my pulse too high up?
past mesa
what happens if I get my pulse too high up?
You slow down.
modest monolith
tardy ingot
not as much dmg as other guns
Huh
What?
How is this gun „low dmg“ when it litteraly deletes waves
As solace said. Its got by far the highest dmg per mag, not even counting penetration. Obviously you will never hit all the dmg. But just hitting 50% makes it better than most other guns on 100% 
lone tusk
i see
ashen frigate
misty kernel
hel revolver & revolver (special) which is stronger and can 1 shot chargers?
ashen frigate
Neither can 1 shot chargers
(from the front at least ; getting behind a Charger running at you can be tricky)
misty kernel
yeah cant do that
trying to redo the mission after alarm nonstop chargers rushes towards u in R3
ashen frigate
Ah, R3C1
misty kernel
1 shotgun sentry, mine, scanner and c-foam is correct?
ashen frigate
Shotgun / ChokeMod are quite decent
To run > shoot > reload your way to the extraction
misty kernel
dunno what to give to bots
will they shoot from distant far away and tickle enemies like idiots or are they smart and wait for enemies to come near if i give them 2 shotguns?
misty kernel
hel rifle go brr on chargers
and main weapon?
tardy ingot
dunno what to give to bots
will they shoot from distant far away and tickle enem...
Burst rifle and veruta machine gun for bots
tardy ingot
and main weapon?
theres lots of good options (as in decent vs chargers)
Hel revo (4 shot and pen), dmr (4 shot), carbine (4 burst), sawed off (1 tap if all pellets hit), hel shotgun (holds back/kills bunched up chargers) etc etc
ashen frigate
You probably do not want to use HEL Shotgun against Chargers :)
misty kernel
You probably do not want to use HEL Shotgun against Chargers :)
i noticed but why? shotguns supposed to be good against chargers no?
ashen frigate
Too much spread and they are quite tanky
Shotguns with a tighter spread (Shotgun / Chokemod / Sawed-off) are much better against Chargers
tardy ingot
worse damage than choke or buckland
Its a main weapon
ashen frigate
Also this, yes
tardy ingot
hel shotgun works very well against groups of them
misty kernel
Shotguns with a tighter spread (Shotgun / Chokemod / Sawed-off) are much better ...
first gun name?
tardy ingot
since pen + big mag = destruction
tardy ingot
i noticed but why? shotguns supposed to be good against chargers no?
Not rly?
choke is quite good due to tight spread and good range before fall off
misty kernel
sawed off eems nice but i hate low ammo guns
tardy ingot
shotguns and sawed off have 30 dmg. You need 30 dmg
tardy ingot
sawed off eems nice but i hate low ammo guns
low ammo = low kills
sawed off gets ~8 kills if you kill 1 enemy per shot
misty kernel
Shotguns with a tighter spread (Shotgun / Chokemod / Sawed-off) are much better ...
shotgun name?
tardy ingot
most guns gets 8-9 at perfect efficiency (headshots, no overshooting etc)
misty kernel
i know choke and sawed off
tardy ingot
shotgun is shotgun
misty kernel
u mean bukland
misty kernel
shotgun is bukland
tardy ingot
nop
misty kernel
yep
misty kernel
buckland s870
ashen frigate
Most Shotgun variants in game are made by "buckland" manufactor
tardy ingot
buckland s870
nobody uses those names
ashen frigate
Nobody calls it that way
dry pumice
Technically yes, but no one uses or remembers those names.
misty kernel
but im correct
dry pumice
The only time gun name comes into play is machine guns
misty kernel
about this right
wish authotgun was effective against chargers
5x shot to kill them or sth
especially when they grouped up
dry pumice
(ideally)
tardy ingot
when grouped it just staggers and kills them
misty kernel
aimed at their chest if they r looking towards u right?
ashen frigate
aimed at their chest if they r looking towards u right?
Yes, always aim for the center mass against Chargers. They have no weak spot so useless to aim for the head
misty kernel
Yes, always aim for the center mass against Chargers. They have no weak spot so ...
then why chest
if no weakspot
ashen frigate
If you use a Shotgun, it will increase the probability that pellets spreading will hit the target :)
keen seal
wanna try hitting them in the arms or feet instead?
misty kernel
obv no, talking about the head
guess ill try autoshotgun and hel rifle
oh wait they r both special wtf do i pick in main then
keen seal
oh wait they r both special wtf do i pick in main then
I usually take hel revolver against chargers
1 pierce and 1 shot stagger
takes 4 to kill though
dry pumice
Chargers don't have a head multiplier
So there's no point in shooting them to the head. Aside from forcing a stagger.
misty kernel
4 hel rev shots to kill charger? bruh
dry pumice
So you just aim for center body mass.
And yes, main weapons generally suck against chargers. 30 HP doing numbers.
At least shooters have their x5 head...
tardy ingot
4 hel rev shots to kill charger? bruh
and?
misty kernel
hmph fine
dry pumice
HELRev and DMR are 2 strongest hitters among mains with 8.0 and 7.5 damage respectively.
Helshotgun I don't even know.
ashen frigate
Sawed-off wants a word
dry pumice
Oh right, I keep forgetting the baguette exists.
ashen frigate
The baguette pwns
dry pumice
Sawed off is very strong against chargers because it deals amazing 30 damage, which is exactly as much as you need for a kill.
Issue: the shots will have to be point blank.
ashen frigate
It may be underused, but it is very good in its current state.
dry pumice
Or you bring something like Heavy Assault Rifle and use it to finish off the left overs.
tardy ingot
theres lots of good options (as in decent vs chargers)
Hel revo (4 shot and pen...
@misty kernel
dry pumice
But again: reminder that it's the best you will get for chargers among mains.
Mains are not big damage dealers - that's specials' job, and there are many options for quick charger deletion.
solid dew
Honestly I'm not a fan of hel rev against chargers but agreed that it's probably one of the better options.
I tend to run choke mod for chargers more often. Ammo isn't great but the range makes up for it, and 1 may usually can clear enough for me to be able to kite.
hazy wedge
Hel rifle + chargers = 
keen seal
gtfo players discover that mains are objectively worse than specials
no way!!!!
steady jolt
what is Rule 7?
hazy wedge
The holy rule 7!
steady jolt
Reported blocked and noted
sounds good to me
hazy wedge
It's when players join a vc without an invite and cause a disturbance heh
civic wave
if only there was a rules channel...
past mesa
if only there was a rules channel...
If only there was a way to get this information
Truely gtfo chat is the best place
Hey guys is murder illegal????
hazy wedge
Only legal when it's sleepers
past mesa
My brother is sleeping?
hazy wedge
visual iris
what is Rule 7?
rule 7 soo good i radicalized a friend bout it
uncut rune
about to attempt r1d1? any recs for loadout?
we have npc coming with us with a bio tracker
ocean spindle
about to attempt r1d1? any recs for loadout?
um u can maybs get a thermal if u want
but for tools yeah bio on bot its great, and usuallt three sentries
its one of two levels where three sentries its best
neon gust
A pr will come in handy later
ocean spindle
on r1
soft crater
I miss when OG R1D1 and we didn't have Thermals
soft crater
Burst is just overall the best / efficient
ocean spindle
sure
uncut rune
thanks guys :>
ocean spindle
there can b some long range too
so make sure someone has like idk a slighly more range gun
not necessarily powerful oin dmg a machinegun can work or a pr or a chokemod skdmkm
unkempt ridge
Hello, is there finally a way to unlock the rest of the cosmetics once you complete everything ?
sturdy glen
no
worldly geyser
So what kind of situations is each sentry useful in? I understand full auto is for delaying a wave in a corridor, but besides that, burst seems better equipped for most situations
civic wave
Burst sentry for murdering smalls
Shotgun sentry for short lasting power
Sniper sentry for long sightlines/big enemies
Auto sentry for nothing, never, don't touch that thing
minor fractal
So what kind of situations is each sentry useful in? I understand full auto is f...
Because it is.
Sniper sentry is the only decent alternative, and it has major weaknesses.
worldly geyser
Damn, alright. Sad about the full auto, its constant firing looks funny
past mesa
Sniper sentry is the only decent alternative, and it has major weaknesses.
Ie it doesn’t shoot
olive robin
Damn, alright. Sad about the full auto, its constant firing looks funny
it is funny until you realize you lost all your tool ammo, nothing died, and it missed half its shots
lusty bramble
Yeah
soft crater
Now it's burst sentry
lusty bramble
Then it was changed
Back in rundown 1 when everyone said to take machine gun 😂😂😂😂🫵😂😂
soft crater
What be the next Beep Take?
soft crater
Then it was changed
I lowkey miss the old Arbalist
lusty bramble
I don't even know what your take is supposed to be
hidden ridge
Back when everyone just said to take sniper sentry 90% of the time.
Because it was busted?
lusty bramble
It's in the game
hidden ridge
I still think it's strong tbh especially with a bio bot pinging all the shit
Just that it requires the setup to allow for it (corridors)
lusty bramble
Symbiosis can make it pretty okay
soft crater
Less ammo needs bio to shoot okay
Otherwise a striker can run like 30-40m before that thing even fires
Shotgun sentry got ammo buffed but it still burns through it quickly.
hidden ridge
Shotgun sentry got ammo buffed but it still burns through it quickly.
Because, from my limited experience, it has a tendency to shoot more than needed
soft crater
Hel Auto. Iirc they haven't fixed the hel on sentries thing yet.
soft crater
Because, from my limited experience, it has a tendency to shoot more than needed
It 2 shots strikers regardless.
hidden ridge
I didnt have much to do and I did a run with vanilla bots on r4b1 extreme, placed 1 shotgun sentry out of reactor, I had like 10% cpu speed and a bot with bio: sentry shot 2 times after a target was dead
hidden ridge
It stand by that it nearly wasted half of its ammo
soft crater
You put max speed and it fires like 8 times for a single striker
hidden ridge
Cpu speed on shotgun sentry
yeah I just had like 4-5 lying around and wanted to give it a try
Still it's borked
soft crater
There's a reason Dak made it fire slower in occlusion
hidden ridge
Sniper WAS incredibly strong and now it's good if the situation arises, which makes sense since a sniper is supposed to be situational
soft crater
No he did that because he was trolling
beepposting not allowed
lusty bramble
Yeah but the situational part isn't really intended
I don't think the sniper having anxiety is supposed to be intentional
soft crater
lusty bramble
Do you have brain damage
lusty bramble
You should tell mako to play with gerz on r4e1
soft crater
looks over at -5 intelligence
lusty bramble
It's basically her level
soft crater
Duo?
lusty bramble
God no lmao
soft crater
To my knowledge they haven't gotten past reactor portion
Idk I haven't really seen gerz around Mako's Streams as of late
soft crater
It's partly people Mako DMs or whoever responds to the Error tag
Mako iirc tries to get people who haven't gotten the clear as well
sturdy glen
To my knowledge they haven't gotten past reactor portion
they got to the room before the class 6 at the end
and then full wiped off of a greedy padlock hit
soft crater
they got to the room before the class 6 at the end
I see. Rip
dry pumice
Sounds about right
upper ginkgo
and then full wiped off of a greedy padlock hit
greed players...
lusty bramble
Jish what do you think of the new datablock danger
sturdy glen
.
eternal bridge
Jish what do you think of the new datablock danger
New datablock danger?
That enemy in the dev leak?
soft crater
Patrolling enemy?
lusty bramble
They couldn't get that code to work
soft crater
lusty bramble
I'm naming the new enemy first they're called dicks
No one else can name the dicks anything else because I said the name first
You can quote me on this
ashen frigate
soft crater
I'm naming the new enemy first they're called dicks
they have multiple tho.
tendrils
past mesa
Dicks
past mesa
Dw I will send it to true
dry pumice
Lore channel has already converged on "sentinel" so good luck
(assuming they work as we are guessing they work)
sturdy glen
Lore channel has already converged on "sentinel" so good luck
*(assuming they wo...
frosty vs beep yet again
resurgence in r8
✊
lusty bramble
Couple of dicks here
soft crater
Couple of dicks here
Hackett: "We've got pings, hands off cocks"
past mesa
Tli that auto mod doesn’t like the single for cocks
smoky snow
Where do I ask devs to add more ammo/increase damage to the guns the game?
dry pumice
That... But also you don't, unless you got a specific gun in mind that ain't doin' well
jagged shore
why would you do that though
past mesa
Where do I ask devs to add more ammo/increase damage to the guns the game?
Such an insightful comment on gamebalance
smoky snow
Where do I ask devs to add more ammo/increase damage to the guns the game?
It is hilarious to see that in year 2050+ whatever it is, they figured out time jumping, but walk around with guns that have a warmup time to fire bullets 😆
past mesa
What if we added an infinite ammo choke mode?
dry pumice
Game has game mechanics 🤯
jagged shore
we're also prisoners, we don't exactly have access to the highest tier tech
dry pumice
I hate spin up as the next guy, but devs gonna dev - simple as
smoky snow
It is hilarious to see that in year 2050+ whatever it is, they figured out time ...
Also has anyone paid attention to how slow the bullets are? Seriously I have seen paintball guns shoot painballs at a faster velocity xDDDD
dry pumice
we're also prisoners, we don't exactly have access to the highest tier tech
Do wind up guns exist IRL?
past mesa
Also has anyone paid attention to how slow the bullets are? Seriously I have see...
You would be loved in gtfo lore
dry pumice
Aside form that one experimental magnetic thing
halcyon mango
most guns are practically hitscan are they not
dry pumice
Literally all of them
smoky snow
Just observations, I don't know if this is intended or a bug? Like the small red dots in biotracker
past mesa
most guns are practically hitscan are they not
They are all hitscan
dry pumice
The only thing that shoots projectiles is Cfoam Launcher
jagged shore
Just observations, I don't know if this is intended or a bug? Like the small red...
that parts a bug
soft crater
some have visuals that look to not be hitscan
halcyon mango
hel gun moment
soft crater
but it is indeed hitscan
jagged shore
well it is
just not intended
dry pumice
It doesn't mean anything, just weird enemy visualisation
soft crater
red dots on bio has never been fixed since the very beginning
dry pumice
What's interesting is that it always seems to affect same enemies in the same rooms
Which is fascinating... Why would it do that.
Do enemies have specific IDs or something?...
past mesa
It means you can’t ping them it is some fail safe measure that they haven’t fixed with loading and reloading sleepers
smoky snow
we're also prisoners, we don't exactly have access to the highest tier tech
Good observation. Makes sense.
dry pumice
It doesn't, i just like to keep things true.
jagged shore
yeah there's a little something called suspension of disbelief as well
you suspend your disbelief of something that doesn't make sense, in order for a game to work
but also, what super high tech stuff do we have access to on level drop
dry pumice
That's not what i'm saying
jagged shore
in-universe high tech
soft crater
jagged shore
that is for construction, is it not? that doesn't sound super high tech to me
ebon sigil
why give death row inmates nice ass guns when the old ones do good enough
sturdy glen
Also has anyone paid attention to how slow the bullets are? Seriously I have see...
what DO you mean by this
dry pumice
We're not prisoners, canonically. Prisoners is a nickname that Warden came up with because apparently our guys respond to orders better when they're called that. Before that we were just... I think BIOCOM basically just reffered to us as "resources", since KSOs are basically just robots anyway.
smoky snow
what DO you mean by this
You can see the tracers from the bullets, it is pretty slow for most guns
soft crater
Hitscan*. "Bullet Velocity of these guns is fucking slow"
jagged shore
and surely they could make a dispenser that didn't require a 5 second period before it's able to catapult everything out
that'd probably be more expensive though, in this world
ocean spindle
why give death row inmates nice ass guns when the old ones do good enough
nah cause we [were not death row we just there cause yes prisoners but not like from a normal prison, just in hydrostasis] if we die the warden loses em
they send us in expectin we dont succed, sso they minimize the dmg if we dont, but they gives enough that we could survive
jagged shore
they have enough of the foam to pack it into little grenades all over the complex
past mesa
Yeah but making it make bullets into foam(in world lore not mine) and being portal able is inane
past mesa
they have enough of the foam to pack it into little grenades all over the comple...
It being in Grande forms is also insane for it being a
Construction thing
ebon sigil
nah cause we [were not death row we just there cause yes prisoners but not like ...
aha i see
jagged shore
not really imo, reminds me of insulation kinda
ocean spindle
C:
smoky snow
Hitscan*. "Bullet Velocity of these guns is fucking slow"
The problem is, the brain counts that as a missed shot and tries to compensate in the heat of the battle
dry pumice
Fair, actually
jagged shore
that sounds an awful lot like a "you* issue
dry pumice
I fucking hate when visuals do not align with mechanics
soft crater
The problem is, the brain counts that as a missed shot and tries to compensate ...
Adapt. Overcome.
dry pumice
One of the reasons i despise counter-strike
Seeing a blood spatter and then being hit with "no damage dealt" on death screen...
past mesa
not really imo, reminds me of insulation kinda
Trip mine?
jagged shore
you have hitmarkers and the visual of the enemy recoiling at the bullet
dry pumice
Fucking hell, i have XCOM 2 on my account you know
soft crater
I fucking hate when visuals do not align with mechanics
Cs2 literally has the reticle trace recoil tho-
jagged shore
Trip mine?
the mine is weird, yeah
but that's a disbelief suspension moment imo
past mesa
the mine is weird, yeah
but that's a disbelief suspension moment imo
100%
But I just feel like you can poke holes in anything
If you try hard enough
dry pumice
In video games - absolutely
So you just recognise it when its too far and ignore it
Now if we were to make a movie though ~
past mesa
No you can do it with movies to
gleaming dust
wait did they remove the ablity to play a rundown without it unlocked?
jagged shore
oh for sure, i just don't think a foam existing, in obviously copius amounts throughout the complex that they can just chuck a bunch of it into little packets on a grenade, or whatever tf, and it existing in a launcher that we have access to easily is not very, "high tech"
dry pumice
wait did they remove the ablity to play a rundown without it unlocked?
Explain?
gleaming dust
say imk trying to play R6 D1 but dont have it unlocked and when i drop it drops like normal and then i get booted
i joined another freind
jagged shore
that's not related to you having the level unlocked or not
dry pumice
How did you start the lobby if you don't have the access
soft crater
Only Host needs to have the expedition unlocked
dry pumice
Also that does sound like a different kind of bug to me
dry pumice
Although wouldn't be surprised if a migrated host couldn't play a mission he doesn't have
past mesa
Thing
jagged shore
i think you still can artek
past mesa
say imk trying to play R6 D1 but dont have it unlocked and when i drop it drops ...
Gl
jagged shore
oh shit, i hadn't read anything related to the original thread in a while
that sucks lmao
past mesa
Not us being lost in the storm
Also don’t get me wrong the wedding ring stoped going off at a certain point
soft crater
Interesting
soft crater
My only assumption is the storm can't shock everything outside
past mesa
No battery needed
past mesa
My only assumption is the storm can't shock everything outside
Must be this
past mesa
Imagine using flashlights
You get it for free
jagged shore
woah how do i manage to play this game with a permanent-battery flashlight that sounds super duper cool!!!
past mesa
No flashlight in inventory
soft crater
woah how do i manage to play this game with a permanent-battery flashlight that ...
Lethal company talk
olive robin
woah how do i manage to play this game with a permanent-battery flashlight that ...
press q
jagged shore
oh it's lethal company i see isee lol
grizzled widget
frosty vs beep yet again
i didn't say anything about a name. this one isn't on me.
grizzled widget
Do enemies have specific IDs or something?...
each enemy type does, not individual enemies.
(exception for 1-of bosses)
sturdy glen
i didn't say anything about a name. this one isn't on me.
lol
I have it muted so I just assumed cuz idk who talks there
past mesa
Frosty is the best lore poster everyone else is more confusing
grizzled widget
i've seen a lot of the new stuff (including enemy) datamined, so i wasn't a part of the conversation over there.
the one in the dev-leak is a bit different from the ones i've previously seen though. it's lack of arms is strange to say the least.
sturdy glen
they might be tucked in front, though yeah the shoulders are also kinda nonexistent
grizzled widget
thats what i was looking at.
golden bluff
I just completed a mission (R1A1) and right below the artifact heat, it says COMPLETED: [ 2,-,-,-]. what does that mean?
ocean spindle
I just completed a mission (R1A1) and right below the artifact heat, it says COM...
means the amount of completions u have ! in this case u have completed A1 two times
the - are for optional objectives which dont appear until later
soft crater
until R4
ocean spindle
but in case a mission has side ones, itll appear as 0, 0, 0, 0
soft crater
R1/R2/R3 do not have optionals (Secondary / Overload )
ocean spindle
or 0, 0, -, - if its just the secondary
civic wave
The dashes designate optional objectives
Main, Extreme/Secondary, Overload, Prisoner Efficiency (Main + Extreme/Secondary + Overload in the same run)
dry pumice
To be precise dashes mean that those objectives are not present
Basically its not a mechanic you will encounter until you reach... Rundown 4?...
Because that's where the concept of optional side objectives is born, first 3 rundowns are main
only
soft crater
gleaming dust
When ever i try to join a rundown i dont have unlocked i will never load in however last time i played i was able to run anyrundown no matter if lockedf or unlocked(when i join a freind and we deploy)
i will go through the drop animation and either get stuck forever or ill get booted
did they change it?
jagged shore
It has nothing to do with you not having the level unlocked
dry pumice
They did not change it, it seems like a bug that prevents you from loading in properly
timid grove
witch is better PDW or heavy smg
ocean spindle
both r good
hsmg has less ammo, bit more dmg [2.15 vs 2.45 or so] an pdw has the thermal goin for it
thats basically it, well pdw its a bir shorter range, shorter reload
but by, small numbers
they r very similar id say its just taste
timid grove
alright
soft crater
HSMG is a borderline better AR ATM
PDW on the other hand has better RoF/Reload speed with thermal
timid grove
atm?
ocean spindle
um high cals a oneshot
tho it has, bit poor range
shotties r nice, specially chokemod
minor fractal
Which weapons is ideal vs BBCs?
BC
ocean spindle
Like Veruta? Hel gun?
same as always
minor fractal
Also, BC for bots
ocean spindle
a
soft crater
Bots are still better off with arbalist/veruta/BC
ocean spindle
i appreciate my, life being intact i dont like high dmg on bots
soft crater
Giving them heavy dmg weapons imo. Just means you need more awareness of bot positioning
eternal bridge
Thx for the help. I’m trying to deal with the damn BBC error
Wiped twice at terminal with that
soft crater
Otherwise- they might just cap you
native sun
I know Hel Rifle is one, but what other weapons?
I wouldn't say HEL Rifle is ideal, if you miss the limb break you don't stagger, and you definitely don't want to be missing stagger when a big charger is rushing you down
modern osprey
will you get extra reward after completing secondary objective or nah?
ocean spindle
high cals ok for bbc, shottie pump its ok but the range its danger
scattergun its danger for same reason
ocean spindle
will you get extra reward after completing secondary objective or nah?
no its brag rights and more fun
modern osprey
sounds good
eternal bridge
I’m just trying to get the bot weapons sorted
But I’m concerned about the BC cuz it’s an already very limited ammo
And I’m afraid that it’s not ideal in alarms
eternal bridge
Burst cancel?
soft crater
Firing less than 5 per shot
ocean spindle
And I’m afraid that it’s not ideal in alarms
u can make it work cause bc its also ok for smalls if u like drag
but thats fair u can also go for one of the others
eternal bridge
How confident are you on this?
soft crater
How confident are you on this?
Bots can basically fire a single BC shot and kill a striker
eternal bridge
So 1 Hel Rifle, 2 BCs and 1 Arbalist. Is that an ideal Setup?
soft crater
Accuracy wise it's a little iffy
eternal bridge
It’s a Heavy Charger level
ocean spindle
ik which one it is but
tbh idk if its
a bot level
with overload
on just main i think its a good loadout
eternal bridge
Ok
ocean spindle
if u do PE, um pray
eternal bridge
Um…. I’m doing Dak’s C2
eternal bridge
Oh… sorry
ocean spindle
its a natural conclusion
u get me
it fine
no worries
um ask dak if u can do it then with bots KSMKDMK
eternal bridge
I can do it. Almost got it but some things didn’t work out well
It’s just that ONE section
minor fractal
But I’m concerned about the BC cuz it’s an already very limited ammo
R5B1 has lots of ammo.
minor fractal
Um…. I’m doing Dak’s C2
o
ocean spindle
lmao
eternal bridge
I’ve done ALOT of bots
neon gust
shame it has never existed
Shame
If only
Steam had a guide somewhere
Or a newly added gun stats full with breakpoints for boosters in a easy to read format 😔
Such a shame
neon gust
So 1 Hel Rifle, 2 BCs and 1 Arbalist. Is that an ideal Setup?
Bad
You will either play behind them all the time
Or get one shotted
If your really insist on having a bit deal with giants then yeah give 1 of them the bc
But optimizing them for chargers its bad
Most of theyre ability to deal with bigs/chargers/big waves its to stagger to give them time for them to shoot
Or abuse backpedaling by just gaining distance and force the bot to shoot
sterile citrus
He has bet bot on Black he cant die from friendly fire.
neon gust
Ah yes new patch innit?
neon gust
Dak
eternal bridge
To see how far I can get soundlessly
neon gust
😆😆
eternal bridge
Um…
neon gust
But yeah if you r5b1 error shouldnt require you that much optimization
Even without sound
You can just blast rooms
Most of your ppay gonna be funneling
So unless you really suck at the earlier parts you will have some pretty decent ammo
sterile citrus
Hes doing Occlusion C2. Not R5B1.
neon gust
Bro
neon gust
Hes doing Occlusion C2. Not R5B1.
Why you troll me.like this 😭
ocean spindle
listen i just
my brains dumb shush
i thought it was some challenge
a bot run when before it was a team run
soft crater
also I thought wyvern wasn't using better bots
soft crater
well. their accuracy can be tweaked anyhow
sterile citrus
Even with better the levels definitely arent free like Vanilla.
sturdy glen
unless theres a tank I sincerely doubt that
sterile citrus
D3 cant be done with bots cause the Split of 2/2 you gotta do. D4 is prob impossible the basic bots. The T Scan alone is inasne.
D4 you can PE it with better, just takes a little set up and not wasting resources. I am stuck on E1 atm for his. It's pretty rough.
neon gust
anyone whose been around Wyvern knows they completed R1-R7 soundless already
I know he did it soundless with a team
It was a joke for a while
soft crater
neon gust
Because you know
Youll be talking then he would go " d1d Yu do1t soundless"
I should find people to play occlusion
soft crater
I'm sadge that when Mako did "soundless" run
I was the only true soundless
they still communicated via discord VC
neon gust
Thugernaut with the bible
sterile citrus
Wait when did I get the Bible?! I don't want it.
I live in the South. They take that shit seriously here 😆
If you do get a group for Occlusin though Black I suggest doing D4 first. Fuckin great reactor level in my opinion.
neon gust
I hate reactors
😭😭😭
Ive seen all of them 1 reactor, 2 reactors and a sideobjectivr , 1 shutdown, 1 startup(vice versa too), shit ive seen 3 reactors simultaniously
It melted both my eyes due to everuthing turning on and off and my gpu
I will cry if rundown 8 E level its a reactor
sterile citrus
Hahahaha, ya when the lights go hard im like Fuck me and my retina .
10C somehow gonna make me epileptic
ocean spindle
they alreay did it once i would doubt so much id its again
sterile citrus
I just want new enemies for R8 I dont care wtf they are 😦
sturdy glen
I just want r8 to not be 3 months away
gleaming dust
are you running any mods?
nope
timid grove
I just want new enemies for R8 I dont care wtf they are 😦
i want more guns
sterile citrus
That'd be nice also. Even just a major rebalance like Vanilla Reloaded mod would be nice.
sturdy glen
the respawn zones on the way to reactor are the main rng
theres a little bit of looting rng when you get to the room scan part but
native sun
its not even viable for speed
I kinda think it might be, the speed requires a fast stealth zone anyway, so you're not losing anything there, and in The brazil skip they do a 2-2 split for reactor and dealing with chargers + Pablo, but you can honestly solo hold chargers + Pablo so you have 3 players to speed up reactor clear
sturdy glen
I dont think its possible to pull it off tho
not in a way thats any faster than current
playing "safe" is still stupid af
therefore, not viable
native sun
If he gets within two rooms of you, yes, so you have to get through the stealth zone so fast that you stay 2 rooms from Pablo the whole time
sturdy glen
did you watch one of the clear povs
glad saddle
does failing the hacking actually alert enemies?
native sun
does failing the hacking actually alert enemies?
If they're close enough, yes
The range isn't that big, they have to be pretty close
sturdy glen
how did you watch evas pov and still think its chaos and fun
theyre the one who babysits pablo for most of it
lmfao
glad saddle
and scouts dont get alerted by sprinting they just extend their tentacles?
native sun
and scouts dont get alerted by sprinting they just extend their tentacles?
Correct
jagged shore
because it does
that's really all there is to it
native sun
wait does shooting alert the scout
If you're close enough, yes (within 50m if in the same room, 30m adjacent room, 10m two rooms away)
If you kill it with your shot it obviously dies, but maybe it dies while alert who knows
jagged shore
are there any single rooms bigger than 50 lol
solemn flint
theyre the one who babysits pablo for most of it
im gonna go watch bread pov
native sun
are there any single rooms bigger than 50 lol
Any of the long bridge tiles are 64m and all one room
sturdy glen
the only interesting parts are both times going through the mom respawn zones
native sun
Or really any tile that is just a full big room
jagged shore
like the r1c1 bridge? i kinda wanna go in and actually kinda test that, since i always just assumed that shooting in a room wake the whole room
sturdy glen
the entire rest of the run is either the same but forced to play slow, or more boring
and you can just soft throw to recreate the interesting parts in a normal run
past mesa
like the r1c1 bridge? i kinda wanna go in and actually kinda test that, since i ...
Yeah it should be 64 meters across
native sun
like the r1c1 bridge? i kinda wanna go in and actually kinda test that, since i ...
I mean if you shoot and then an enemy screams it will wake the entire room, so you'd need to prevent scream somehow (or just not have a single enemy scream I guess)
past mesa
I mean if you shoot and then an enemy screams it will wake the entire room, so y...
Shoot in room while shooting a mine that kills yourslef
native sun
Shoot in room while shooting a mine that kills yourslef
tek
vale raptor
does anyone know what is causing pings and bioscan triangles and nametags to be displaced and not in the correct position?
silk radish
That generally happens to me if I mess with my monitor settings midgame and does get fixed if you relaunch
vale raptor
do you lose boosters on relauch if you rejoin ur friends game?
hardy grotto
I kinda think it might be, the speed requires a fast stealth zone anyway, so you...
i dont think its any faster
we had to kill tanks + grab every rss
in normal run u can ignore them completely by going to outside dimension
and it all just dies
native sun
I did forget tanks, I might try messing around with my stuck point to see if you can get 3 stuck there, but even then it's not practical
silk radish
do you lose boosters on relauch if you rejoin ur friends game?
Pretty sure you do, unless you disconnect in the first 30 seconds of the level
hidden ridge
The range isn't that big, they have to be pretty close
Always wanted to ask, does that range ignores walls or room dividers?
Because I remember waking up a sleeper from failing an hack at the bottom of the staircase of the same tile as R3D1's ||stop-the-error-machine||
native sun
Walls yes, room dividers probably never tested
civic wave
Iirc room dividers are just treated like doors so it'd be -20
inland vault
Can I get some recommendations for decent crowd controller primaries?
inland vault
what would you consider the max effective range for hel shotty? my team typically prefers to keep their distance in most gun battles
ocean spindle
hel shotty is a close quarters gun
small range but if used right stops a whole wave
i'd depends more on the level, but in most it's plausible to go with it cause most levels in gtfo r close quarters
but i guess it would be a change on how u play
if u want distance guns u can go dmr, hel revo, carbine, rifle... dmr n rifle arent crowd control per se but have very big range and are very good weapons
most main weapons that are crowd control r just to kill 3 4 sleepers in a mag and that's about it
specials are really the ones that can hold a big wave by themselves cause specials are the stronger weapon
inland vault
i've stuck with carbine for a good while, but hel shotty's potential has always been appealing to me. it's just that my team doesn't like it, or rather they don't like playing around it ig
dry pumice
what would you consider the max effective range for hel shotty? my team typicall...
About 5 meters
ocean spindle
hel shotty required a play style yeah
it's a gun that requires a way to be, and that way to be might not work on every level
dry pumice
HEL Auto Pistol also exists. It literally exists for crowd control.
ocean spindle
ah i forgot of that one, but it's niche, it's not that useful on most cases
it's a stagger weapon rather than a dmg one
dry pumice
Its basically HEL Shotgun, only with no damage. But hey, it reloads in like... 1.0 second or something
ocean spindle
if u want an auto that its the same with the dmg, machinepistol
civic wave
Honestly, you'll do more by putting one carbine burst into each enemy than using hel autopistol
ocean spindle
yeah
inland vault
Honestly, you'll do more by putting one carbine burst into each enemy than using...
i've dabbled with autopistol for a little bit. i find it useful for when my team does literally nothing about the hybrid or giant that's charging their attack, but i agree with the fact that autopistol is lacking in damage
ocean spindle
tbh with an auto u can probs stagger it too if u do enough dmg
or use ur special to do it faster
dry pumice
What was the HELAP damage again?... 1.0?...
ocean spindle
yeah
dry pumice
And the SMG?
ocean spindle
yeah
and has the same mag and a fast reload too
and i think a lil bit more range
dry pumice
I would love to experiment with increaing HELAP damage.
We gotta try like... 1.4 or something
inland vault
so ig my current loadout now is carbine/hel shotty + veruta mg. does that seem solid?
ocean spindle
yeah seems oki
machineguns really flexible
u can make it work with pretty much any main
and remember usually loadouts also depend on the mission, if it's one with tons of bigs u might want somethin with more dmg, if it's a long range level u might want some long range special, if it's super close quarters mayb a shotgun...
it always comes down to being flexible and goin in for what's best in the level
inland vault
k thx. i gotta catch some z's. i'm tired af
ocean spindle
aight, goodnight :3
soft crater
It isn't really hard.
But it is a bit more than the usual A level
Specifically one part of the mission that is.
dry pumice
is R6AX hard?
Its a curved ball for an A, but its doable. I've beaten it with bots twice now. IMHO 3 sentries + biotracker is the way to go, you won't get much value out of cfoam or mines later on
soft crater
Normal path in R6 is A-D and then X levels tbf
dry pumice
Speaking of which. Is the bridge alarm wave direction scripted?
They technically should be coming from 3 different places, but they reliably only come from one place for me.
soft crater
I can't remember ngl
There another alarm in that tileset
Somewhere else
And I get it confused together every time
dry pumice
I believe a similiar room can be found in R5A2(?)
hidden ridge
Also R4B3
misty kernel
Its a curved ball for an A, but its doable. I've beaten it with bots twice now. ...
imho 3x sentries? wakanda sentry is that
just did b1
hidden ridge
IMHO = In my humble opinion
misty kernel
yeah that plan sucks
ocean spindle
both work
ocean spindle
so many doors
they r very easy alarms, and the last part which is the hardest has none
and the, second hardest part has none either
i personally had a mine deployer but i wouldn't pick the foam now
ocean spindle
doors do take a while to be broken even without foam
most alarms are pretty short and u can get it fast by gettin rid of the first wave of enemies
and blood door
which is well made to be mined
misty kernel
all alarm 4 and 5s
ocean spindle
tho i think u can find mines and foam nades in the level
misty kernel
they arent fast and easy alarm doors
ocean spindle
all alarm 4 and 5s
yeah short
ocean spindle
the first one can be done like in two three waves and if u funnel with ur sentry it's pretty easy
the second one has two doors together and a sentry will see both
tardy ingot
honestly i prefer having foam and mines for R6AX, makes the alarms chill
but sentries do work aswell
ocean spindle
it's just is the ||zone scan and the final dessert part, which is the hardest two parts|| will work better with sentries
but i guess u can get away with anythin
cosmic sequoia
What guns would you personally bring to R1C1? Machine gun makes sense for ammo/efficiency, but I wonder if someone should have some quicker DPS for hybrids/giants?
Assuming 3 sentries and bio with a bot
hidden ridge
What guns would you personally bring to R1C1? Machine gun makes sense for ammo/e...
A question that always gets asked
In terms of guns I'd always get 1 sniper to pop the hybrids
I usually get myself DMR (pops shooter's heads from far) and Sniper
Rifle IMHO's fine
PR does fine because most of the enemies are smalls and you have corridors
cosmic sequoia
Right range and drop off seem important as the most threatening enemies are probably the hybrids
Thanks
Maybe we'll try DMR, Sniper 2 machine guns 😉
hidden ridge
Just dont get more than 1 sniper or stuff like that
cosmic sequoia
or you think 1 DMR/sniper plus 3 crowd clearing weapons are better?
hidden ridge
or you think 1 DMR/sniper plus 3 crowd clearing weapons are better?
dmr is main, sniper i mean konig sniper and that's a special weapon
cosmic sequoia
ah sorry, ok cool so we easily have both
hidden ridge
DMR/Sniper on whoever feels like a sharpshooter, burst rifle/ Arbalist or Rifle/PR
Just try to have a max of 1 sniper, really
and no more than 1-2 PRs
ocean spindle
i think on main weapons u can take pretty much whatever that is minimally long range as long as ur comfy with it
dmr rifle doubletap pistol some automatics like heavy smg all of those can work perfectly fine
hidden ridge
3 sentries but try to place the third one only on waves 4-6-8
cause only those have hybrids and giants
cosmic sequoia
We learned that lesson. Wiped near the end as sentries ran dry at worst moment
hidden ridge
HEL Revolver of course is fantastic as always, same for carbine, really
hidden ridge
I tend not to take them there just so I've an excuse to take something else