gtfo-related-questions

[turbid horizon]

Straight shooting, given code, no enemy variety

[timid grove]

and r1a1 because you can mess with new players

[fierce walrus]

RXGC is just better for it all

you get a simple, short level

with selectable difficulty

[hard condor]

how is difficulty determined anyways

[turbid horizon]

Wdym

[fierce walrus]

so you can show people all aspects of the game

[timid grove]

main secondary overload prizinor efficancy

[hard condor]

like what's the deal with this r1-8 or whatever, and all of the sub levels of those

[turbid horizon]

Community opinion

[timid grove]

and the level itself

[hard condor]

cause i thought r1 would be the easiest, then you go to r2, then r3, and so on

[sturdy glen]

chargers are a C tier enemy

[fierce walrus]

Rundowns are similiar difficulty wise, levels get harder from A1-E1

[hard condor]

ohhh okay

[turbid horizon]

It’s generally accepted that difficulty is R1 < R3 < R2 < R6 < R7 < R4 < R5

[fierce walrus]

Yeah no, R4 and R5 are consided hardest

[timid grove]

r4a1 vs r1a1

[hard condor]

so what's the difference between rundowns?

[fierce walrus]

they are like campaigns

[turbid horizon]

With the most commonly accepted hardest level being R4E1

[tardy ingot]

R6DX (cx now) aswell

[hard condor]

okay that makes sense

[fierce walrus]

…yeah? Stilll easy

[timid grove]

hey thats my next level after r4c3

[hard condor]

interesting

[turbid horizon]

Oh yeah

[civic wave]

rundowns are sets of missions

[hard condor]

mb

[turbid horizon]

Enjoy. It’s hard as fuck

[civic wave]

some rundowns will have new enemies/mechanics that won't be present in older rundowns

[turbid horizon]

This

[timid grove]

well shit

[civic wave]

(this has somewhat been thrown out the window though, with ALT rundowns)

[turbid horizon]

It IS the king of GTFO after all

[turbid horizon]

Nah lol

They said they would but they mostly didn’t

[fierce walrus]

I mean fog is still not in R1, no chargers in R2, neonate is mostly in R3 etc

[turbid horizon]

The only major changes were R3D1 and a few R5 levels

[devout bane]

haha i was doing it solo while doing the secondary 1 mistake made me screw up everything in that level figured i'd try it another time

[tardy ingot]

We get the DEFINITE (no doubt, 100% true) tierlist of level difficulty for beginners and vets soon (with r8 sleeper podcast TM)

[civic wave]

I'm talking about stuff like ||charger scouts are present in r3d1 when they were implemented in r5, snatcher in r5 when it was implemented in r7|| and that kind of thing

[turbid horizon]

When eva’s internet unshit’s itself

[turbid horizon]

Yes

That’s what I’m saying

[civic wave]

although I guess mission objectives haven't changed at all

[tardy ingot]

Huh?

sleeper podcast is r8+ only

[civic wave]

although I remember people wondering if r2e1 would have an optional objective because of the r2d1 dev leak, damned zone numbers

[tardy ingot]

as i wanna do a mostly definite one

[turbid horizon]

It was promised that ALT rundowns would have sharper teeth (they don’t) and we thought there’d be enemies from newer rundowns in older ones

I thought R5B1 EX would be not shit

But it still was

sigh

[tardy ingot]

they made some improvements

[civic wave]

god could you imagine if at the end of r1c1 ||you got to fight a tank||

[tardy ingot]

some downgrades

[civic wave]

that'd be hilarious for beginners

[tardy ingot]

some sidegrades

[turbid horizon]

R1 I don’t mind

[civic wave]

shadow scouts now divorced

[turbid horizon]

They added hybirds and it’s now the tutoring rundown

But like, R2 where chargers at

[civic wave]

r2 was always like that I guess, so eh whatever

chargers are a bit boring anyway

[turbid horizon]

Yeah wasn’t it designed around kiting

Og R2

[civic wave]

you get your fill with r4 and r5

og rundowns were not balanced around kiting, people just sucked

[turbid horizon]

LMAO

[civic wave]

you can complete every mission without kiting

people viewed the game differently back then though

[turbid horizon]

R4 could’ve been made a little more interesting in side objectives IMO

R6/7 generally have amazing optional design

[civic wave]

you don't find praying that a cell spawned in zone 266 interesting optional objective design?

[turbid horizon]

Like I’m not saying rework a level, but like replace R5C1 EX with NOT AN UPLINK

please

[hidden ridge]

On one hand, throwing a snatcher here and there in r1-2-3-4 maps wouldn't change the balance too much tbh

[tardy ingot]

R1 - ok, its beginner rundown
R2 - make some stuff slightly more interesting
R3 - did what it should honestly
R4 - upgrade side objectives
R5 - cut down tedious stuff
R6 - reduced ressources/checkpoints

[turbid horizon]

“A little bbc here, a little bbc there”

R6D1 I was hoping would have chargers

Would’ve been cool to have some chargers in the cocoon zone

I really like the new class V tho

That alarm slaps

[hidden ridge]

R6D1 is such a bizzarre map I've no opinion over what to do with it

A reactor, a scout zone, fog, and ||kraken|| all with 4-5 whatever checkpoints

[tardy ingot]

its gotten good upgrades for the fog area honestly

r6d1 boss fight

[hidden ridge]

It's just all over the place

[tardy ingot]

is the only part that couldve been tuned

but its a good level

[turbid horizon]

It’s a fucking cool level tho

[hidden ridge]

It feels like ordering a burger and getting a side of fries, fried bell peppers filled with cheddar and a salad with bacon in it

[turbid horizon]

It might be all over but it works

[hidden ridge]

Nothing about it is bad taken by itself

[tardy ingot]

Thats sounds banger?

[hidden ridge]

Sure but consider that you ordered a cheeseburger

😄

[civic wave]

tbh i can't remember anything past reactor skip

[timid grove]

dose r7 e1 have an overload

[civic wave]

the menu says it does not have any optional objectives

in fact, no E tier level has an overload

r4e1 has an extreme but that's because it's from r4, and every mission in r4 has an extreme objective

[timid grove]

extreme?

[civic wave]

"Secondary"

[timid grove]

ah

is that why r5e1 is easyer

[sturdy glen]

that depends on who you ask

[timid grove]

correction is that why every e level is easyer

[fierce walrus]

Depends

[timid grove]

all ive heard is r4 e1 is the worst

[digital mural]

E levels easy?

https://tenor.com/view/skull-issues-gif-13031152103567454559

[fierce walrus]

Doing secondary of R4E1 gives you a shit ton of resources for rest of main

Saying that, secondary is very hard to do obv

[digital mural]

@fierce walrus R2E1 when

or R7E1

[timid grove]

its a reactor isint it

[fierce walrus]

R5E1 on the other hand, you can wipe so many times througout the level

[fierce walrus]

yup

[fierce walrus]

dont remind me

actually

when i get lethal comp

[golden escarp]

heeey planning to use this server sometime to find groups and stuff, how does the join in thing work without like, adding the other folk on steam?

[sturdy glen]

idk even the secondary isnt that horrible to do

[digital mural]

just use the ID lobby code

[sturdy glen]

it just requires competence from every teammate

[golden escarp]

oh lol neat

[sturdy glen]

which is a problem

[hazy wedge]

When T scan surge with all bbcs 😩

[fierce walrus]

the game has a built in code system #how-to-matchmake

[golden escarp]

thx

[digital mural]

send the person the code then he can join you

[timid grove]

https://discord.gg/gtfo

well that didint work

[golden escarp]

?

o

[timid grove]

uhh

[fierce walrus]

yeah… „competency”

[digital mural]

@fierce walrus

hear that

[timid grove]

how to machmake at the top of looking for group section on the left

[fierce walrus]

you lack that =)

[digital mural]

We*

[fierce walrus]

i lack it sometimes

[golden escarp]

I played a couple times with the bots, and even got a couple levels completed using bots, but like, figured soon if I wanna touch this game more, better find some folk. And most my other friends are on their own niche games anyhow

[digital mural]

whats your timezone?

[timid grove]

if you want i can show ya

[golden escarp]

PST

[timid grove]

https://discord.gg/zvJekQSxJg

[digital mural]

a better question
what time is it for you right now?

[fierce walrus]

pst… asia?

[golden escarp]

I'm good for now, thanks tho preciate ❤️ Just was looking to see if I had it right that there was a lobby thing

my time is 12:44 pm

[digital mural]

goddamn

[timid grove]

k cool

[fierce walrus]

I never know if 12 pm is midnight or noon

[golden escarp]

or for like regular time, just 12 lol

[digital mural]

noon

midnight is 12AM

noon is 12PM

[golden escarp]

24 hour clock aye?

[fierce walrus]

Fuck you and not being able to count to 24

24 clock is objectively better

[digital mural]

wait

[golden escarp]

its 12 about to be 13 then :p

[digital mural]

oh

i am 2 hours ahead of you

[fierce walrus]

Its almost 22 for me

[olive robin]

i remember it by guessing and getting it wrong the first time if i dont get it right.

[timid grove]

guess im at 15

[golden escarp]

oh hey didya know silksong release?

honkhonk 📯
(neat pfp)

[timid grove]

what

[ember mulch]

22 ... 10 PM 😒

[fierce walrus]

the pain is real

[golden escarp]

lol

[digital mural]

Cubix, we need the say gex squad back together

[fierce walrus]

=(

[digital mural]

for some E1

[fierce walrus]

ppp dont tell me you like 12 hour clock

[golden escarp]

43 pm on a titan moon monday

[ember mulch]

Naah

[fierce walrus]

thank god

[digital mural]

24 > 12

[timid grove]

no it fucking didint

[golden escarp]

bruh lol

[fierce walrus]

I believe we will get it in february

for the HK anniversary

[digital mural]

cope

copeeeeee

[fierce walrus]

i want to believe

[timid grove]

he has enough hope to rival a cristmas film

[fierce walrus]

If unity doing its shit delayed silksong i will find unity devs and vivisect them and their entire families

[timid grove]

that cristmas film is silent night

i just thought of my best gtfo question yet

what dose cfoam taste like

[digital mural]

if i say what i want to say

im gonna get banned

[timid grove]

also whouldent it be good if they changed the cfoam color back to white

[ember mulch]

Chlorine?

[timid grove]

gonna have to tast some for comparison ill be right back

[ember mulch]

Dont bother, rather come here have a shot of vodka with me

Apple juice*

[timid grove]

russian water*

[uncut rune]

abut 2 try R1A1 for the first time any recommendations for load outs

havent played in a while so the teams looking rusty

wait i have a question about this actually

[hazy wedge]

Use whatever you like. But if you want my personal recommendation, it's sawed off and scatter

[turbid horizon]

Yes

[uncut rune]

i just realised we've completed all of r1 expect the final level lmao

i was gonna aks why it says main 5/6

but its all comebqck to me lmao

[neon gust]

pdw, combat shotgun

probably the easiest loadout you can use till get adjusted

[devout dove]

hey so i recently got this game and im just trying to play it with some friends who are also new. for some reason we are ready in the lobby but the cage isnt dropping?

we're just stuck in the lobby

[neon gust]

he got to drop once everyone its ready

host gotta hold the drop cage button

[civic wave]

Or it could be connection related if somebody has a vpn or steam is shitting itself

[devout dove]

doesnt work

[neon gust]

switch host

[turbid horizon]

host migration

fear

[hard condor]

i don't like the implication of your status

[ocean spindle]

:3

[timid grove]

how do you get rid of an afk guy in voice

because gtfo-9 is now a channel for 3

[ocean spindle]

well if they r afk just choose another vc

[timid grove]

but what if you have a petty grudge against them for locking you in gtfo expidishion lost screen because they were the host

and didint return to lobby

[ocean spindle]

u dont

play with em

[neon gust]

Simple as that

use the note feature on discord

so when you click on their profile youll see its them

[high elm]

if I'm new to the game and unable to play certain rundowns because of progression requirements, is there a way I can specify that in LFG?

I j don't want to waste anybody's time

[sturdy glen]

you can join any level

just cant host

[high elm]

oh thank you

[sturdy glen]

just be wary of higher difficulty on lower levels

[ocean spindle]

i would still suggest u start in order

like just say ur a newie, theres a whole channel for newies, #lfg-beginners

[soft crater]

Yeah man I encountered a Mom on R1A1 before. Shit was crazy

[high elm]

was she single?

[severe wraith]

nah she's taken, by me

[digital mural]

sorry man

all the mothers are mine

[severe wraith]

You wish dude

All women are mine

[ocean spindle]

all guys are mine

i am gay

[digital mural]

you are mine

[severe wraith]

You can have the guys

[ocean spindle]

uwu

[severe wraith]

I'll take the women

deal?

[ocean spindle]

yes

[severe wraith]

moms are exclusively mine

[olive robin]

what guns would you recommend for alt r2/c2

[ocean spindle]

ummm pretty much anythin works but its a mostly small enemies level
so 3 people with small clearin weapons its good
but its almost all about that sweet melee

so hammer

or knife

or bat

[dry pumice]

Hammer, HAR, HCP, pumpshot...

[olive robin]

the machine pistol is bad though?

has a lot of ammo

[dry pumice]

MP is fine

[ocean spindle]

mp is fine

[dry pumice]

Just gotta use it at close range.

[olive robin]

i have machine pistol + burst cannon

[dry pumice]

Its a shotgun without the shells

[olive robin]

would the burst cannon be wasteful

[ocean spindle]

that seems nice

nah

as long as not like 3 burst cannon

[olive robin]

sick alrightt

[ocean spindle]

just one

[olive robin]

other guy has hel auto pistol + drekker precision rifle

another has heavy smg + high cal

[dry pumice]

sounds fine to me

Although HEL AP...

[ocean spindle]

i would not go pr but thats a me problem

[dry pumice]

Not sure how that's supposed to help, but i dont use the weapon

[olive robin]

he likes the thermal

and the headshot

[ocean spindle]

cause i feel like u dont have a ot of space for it

but sure

i would go more revo

[olive robin]

hel auto is honestly ammo efficient if you use piercing enough

[olive robin]

meant to reply to this

[olive robin]

regular revolver or hel

[ocean spindle]

regular revo

im talkin of the special

i dont even comment on the hel auto cause i think its funny

revos more close quarters

[olive robin]

fair

i mean the 4th guy has pdw and combat shotgun

so ig we're covered

[dry pumice]

Honestly weapons dont really matter on that map, i think

[olive robin]

thats true

[dry pumice]

There's rooms of various sizes, so everyone has a job to do

[olive robin]

it is just an error alarm clear

[ocean spindle]

eh

[dry pumice]

The thing that REALLY gets people killed is the surprise at the end

[ocean spindle]

its all about that melee

[dry pumice]

Bring something that can kill giants real quick

[olive robin]

burst cannon

that is why

[native sun]

@turbid horizon Re: Melee rebalance. My take is:

Hammer - charged stagger multi: 5.0 -> 1.5 (same as Ray's take, you only get light stagger on giants if you're behind them, no more mom chain stagger).

Bat - light attack damage: 3.0 -> 3.5 (gives it occi on strikers, makes it the light tap monarch and coupled with hammer nerfs makes it become one of the better options vs giants, much better all-rounder).

Knife - backstabber multi: 1.0 -> 1.5 (gives you something to do vs giants with no head, being perfectly behind them now lets you break limbs in one hit).

[turbid horizon]

Hmm i have to figure out how to do backstab multi

Lemondrop

[timid grove]

were still talking bout the meele balincing?

its been 5HOURS

since i left

and i think it started 2-3 hours befour then

nvm i scrolled up

[ocean spindle]

lol

[minor fractal]

Backstabber is hitbox-based, btw.

Or at least it was partially hitbox-based.

[timid grove]

how do you indeffinitly stun a giant with bat

[sturdy glen]

exact same as sledge but you full charge

(it still needs limb break with back damage)

will also likely take 1 more hit because your starter does half as much

[timid grove]

so its only doable from the back

[sturdy glen]

for full stun/no scream yes

[timid grove]

ok cool

[olive robin]

please

i would say maybe make knife hitbox real too

[timid grove]

also whats the breakable parts of a giant

[past mesa]

Limbs hips sholder upper chest head

Be careful of order sometimes you can’t break things depending on what you break

Can only break 4 limbs

[timid grove]

good to know

so both legs and the 2 chest peices seem like a good goto

[hazy wedge]

Or 3 hammer back shots

[sturdy glen]

if you do decide on chest do it last

and only do 1 of them (chest/stomach have some funny shit going on)

[past mesa]

You can easily get full back damage and limb break

So just go for limb breaks

[native sun]

Normally head, leg, leg/arm, arm works well

[hazy wedge]

Ah that was for solo killing I’m assuming

Or just in general?

[timid grove]

solo

[past mesa]

In general it stuns for longer but it allows stun lock solo

[timid grove]

and why dose first hit not break limbs

[hazy wedge]

[past mesa]

It does

You are just hitting the hips

[sturdy glen]

theres only 1 place you can hit that wont break yea ^

[past mesa]

They don’t lie you know

[timid grove]

it was the leg

[past mesa]

Then you didn’t get hit scan

In the right spot

Unless u r running back and not back shotting

[timid grove]

do the hips break after the first hit?

[past mesa]

They are special

No

@minor fractal can we get the hips don’t lie clip

[timid grove]

so i need to hit the legs and an arm or the upper body

[past mesa]

Just hit back head first

[timid grove]

all from the back

[past mesa]

Always

X2 damage from back

[timid grove]

and never run back to charge up

[minor fractal]

https://youtu.be/H24RkuLxa28

[last hornet]

Mk so i just got done with R1C1 and i was wondering if R1C2 was composed of the same ish material as R1C1?

[timid grove]

stick to his ass

[past mesa]

Thx Ray

[past mesa]

No

[last hornet]

kk

is it supposed to be a pretty long one?

[past mesa]

Depends on you

[last hornet]

not sure if i wanna do it tonight or tomorrow

[past mesa]

If you don’t have 50 mins as a new player maybe tomorrow

[last hornet]

kk

ill prolly do it tonight then

on break now so ill just do it tonight then prepare for R1D1 tomorrow

[past mesa]

Gl gl

[hazy wedge]

R1C2

[last hornet]

Ive done the entire R1 up to this point only today which is nice

as a new player im grabbing on pretty quick

[past mesa]

Yeah playing in public lobbies also helps

[last hornet]

ofc

[neon gust]

He got past the wall tho

[past mesa]

He did tbh I don’t think it is much of a wall in pubs

[neon gust]

Its r1c1!

The biggest straight line in gtfo history!

[past mesa]

XD

[neon gust]

Xdxdxdx kakakaka

[timid grove]

why dose it feel like it take more time to kill a chicken with a meele wepon

[sturdy glen]

cuz it has more health

[past mesa]

Did you know it had more health 🤯

[sturdy glen]

did you know smg is the best sidearm

it has a 0.9 precision multi

[clear patrol]

Do turrets still do more damage if they shoot from behind?

[upper ginkgo]

no !

patched since og r6

[clear patrol]

Good to know

[solemn flint]

1 question

does the lowspec mod remove the aiming sight from the sniper?

[ocean spindle]

at modding server

[tepid sand]

Yes, that was what was breaking the mod

Time still has to rework the folder naming since that's what's causing the issue

German ö moment

[solemn flint]

also

how tha fuc can people play with 20 fps

[tepid sand]

Try 2

[solemn flint]

predict the future=))

[tepid sand]

No it's literally the past: #gtfo-media message

Yes it was absolute shit - part of the reason why I decided to build a new rig

[solemn flint]

but also at 20 fps

the ai of the enemy just look dumb

[tepid sand]

It's essentially entity cramming - your GPU just can't handle the amount of enemies and can't display their movement properly

Probably part of the reason why I couldn't aim for shit

[tough canyon]

what does artifact heat mean?

[topaz anvil]

At 100% heat, 1 artifact gives 0.15 booster progress.

At 67% heat, 1 artifact gives 0.10 booster progress.

Heat goes down as you pick up more artifacts in the same level

[tough canyon]

ahh okay ty

do they eventually regen?

[topaz anvil]

Picking up artifacts in a level will increase heat in every other level

[sturdy glen]

(by/per rundown)

[solemn flint]

do we have any a teacher for how to play gtfo with 23 fps

low spec mod help me got from 20 to 23 fps

now i need a teacher to teach me how to predict the future

[topaz anvil]

There is no learning, it simply happens

It is but intuition

As a famous stormtrooper once said: "just like the simulations"

[solemn flint]

so

how do u kill a scout with 23 fps

does it just happen

[civic wave]

Clone trooper****, gosh what is wrong with you

Probably just need experience so you have better foresight

[fierce walrus]

Just be good

get used to it

[olive robin]

You could try playing in a lower resolution

Like 720p or something

Lower resolution would run faster (in theory)

[hidden ridge]

I get always weirded out whenever people mention low-med-high "details" but never mention the resolution

[hidden ridge]

In practice too man

[olive robin]

You'd hope

[hidden ridge]

How do you think most upscalers work?

[olive robin]

Yea

They run low res then ai generate higher res

I just wonder if GTFO will even make much of a difference if he's running at 20 fps

Assuming he's at 1080 and not trying to play at 4k or something

[hidden ridge]

I remember dipping below 60fps often at 1080p all low/mid on a 1060 6gb at around og r6

going to 720p kinda solved that

[olive robin]

Does resolution help with CPU load though or is it only gpu

From what I've just looked it up it seems low res only really helps gpu

@solemn flint why is ur game running so poorly

[hidden ridge]

IIRC most "fps tests" for games that want to show full use of the CPU run shit at 1080p or whatnot

[olive robin]

Is ur PC weak or something

Idk 20 fps just seems extremely horrible

And if even the potato mod isn't helping

I gotta wonder if you're playing on a school Chromebook or something

[dry pumice]

It is the last setting people consider for downgrading, because playing at 240p is not experience anyone wants ever. People can tolerate muddy textures, bad lighting, etc... Even the no-anti-aliasing stairs.
But the pixels are holy.

[hidden ridge]

Better to play at lower res with decent fps than shit fps at 1080p

And noone goes to 240p

[dry pumice]

The last game I ran at 640x400 window was Guerilla Faction reboot, and only because it refused to work otherwise.

[misty kernel]

can u 1 shot chargers with hel rifle? if not what guns can u 1 shot them? and wwhere to shoot? (not sniper)

[hazy wedge]

Yes

Scattergun can 1 shot chargers too

[misty kernel]

in the head or what

his weakness is back but i just failed with duo r3 second last lvl

where shit ton of gas and after 1 door 4-5x chargers on u 24/7

[hazy wedge]

With the hel rifle, you can shoot the chest

But other guns work well too even if they don’t one shot them

[misty kernel]

i see

i usually use bullpup, burst rifle or hel rifle

[hazy wedge]

Haven’t used bullpup or burst a lot but if they are reliable at staggering them, it helps

[tardy ingot]

Thats 2 mains and a special

[tardy ingot]

Yes. It penetrates and kills multiple at once aswell

others that can are

Burst cannon and scattergun (heavy overkill)
Choke mod/high caliber pistol
Shotgun/sawed off (need to be close as hell tho)

[dry pumice]

Anything that deals 30 or more damage oneshots them.

• sawed off shotgun
• pump action shotgun
• choke mode shotgun
• high caliber pistol
• HEL rifle
• sniper and scattergun, although it's a waste of bullets

[hidden ridge]

Chargers don't take extra damage from headshots

[misty kernel]

i dont like choke mod shotgun, small ammo

[tardy ingot]

same amount of ammo as hel rifle
1 less than high cal
1 more than shotgun

[solemn flint]

welcome to how gtfo suppose to be

every patch make the game worst

from 40 fps(when alt r5 release) to 23 fps with lowspec mod(alt r6 got release) inorder to try to play the game

i still use my gaming laptop

4 years old

[turbid horizon]

Lowspec mod can be iffy tbh

Also I noticed 0 issues with the FPS from the two alts

It shouldn’t have changed anything

[solemn flint]

Somehow it affect alot

I did check all of my setting

My laptop was at maximum performence and all of gtfo setting got turn to the lowest

20fps max without low spec mod

[narrow niche]

A bit overkill

So can sniper sooooo word

[misty kernel]

how do u melee charger scout?

is the head armored like everybody else?

[fierce walrus]

either cfoam it and then hit it several times

[misty kernel]

back?

[fierce walrus]

or time it with a teammate

[misty kernel]

impossible

im the scout killer among dem

[fierce walrus]

cscouts take no head multi, always go for back

[fierce walrus]

then cfoam it or shoot

[misty kernel]

which gun can 1 shot kill in the back? (no shotgun)

[fierce walrus]

or use a yellow syringe which is quite rare

[fierce walrus]

uhhhhh... sniper, burst cannon, hel rifle

im sure im forgetting some

[misty kernel]

k ty

can u cfoam immortal/tanks?

and big mother

[fierce walrus]

yes, but it lasts for extremely short amounts of time

[fierce walrus]

yes, it lasts for some time

however all of them need 2 cfoam nades, or about 2 charges of cfoam launcher

1 foam mine freezes them

[misty kernel]

foam mine?

u mean foam grenade

[fierce walrus]

no

there are foam nades

and foam tripmines

all 3 of the enemies you mentioned need 2 foam nades to freeze, but only 1 foam mine

[ocean spindle]

every gun above 30 dmg so scattergun sniper high cal choke mod burst cannon hel rifle and the shottie, but i don't have that one

[fierce walrus]

oh right high cal can too

[hidden ridge]

For a moment I read that as a single gun

[ocean spindle]

ah yes the special one

[hidden ridge]

The famous "High Caliber Scattergun Sniper"

[misty kernel]

im lost

but thanks

[turbid horizon]

Hi lost

[timid grove]

how do you use mines on tanks

[olive robin]

have them hit the back ig?

[ocean spindle]

think the strat is puttin em up in the frame of the door

usually u need 7 if im not wrong to oneshot, but it is a somewhat unreliable method

cause if u position em wrong or the tank runs a certain way

thats a lot of resources that wont do a scratch

u can search tutorials on youtube about it its way easier to see it than explain it

[olive robin]

the secret is to suicide bomb the tank

[timid grove]

can the bat one man a bbc

[dry pumice]

In theory

[olive robin]

cant you targe limbs

at the back

to break them or nah

[timid grove]

break upper back then the legs then the arms from the back

whould that be enough damage

[past mesa]

Yeah

You just need to light stagger it

[timid grove]

NICE

[timid grove]

huh

[past mesa]

Breaking limbs aren’t gonna work for full stun lock

[past mesa]

Just charge hit

[timid grove]

so is it just full charges from the back?

or halfish charges to light stun lock it and hit it like that untill it dies

[past mesa]

You got it

[timid grove]

ok

bout how much charge is it

[past mesa]

I use hammer

It is 55% on hammer

[tardy ingot]

Oh it does

Just gotta pray that you get enough back dmg hits to kill before theres nothing to stagger with anymore

[timid grove]

but hes also talking about light stun locking so there shouldent be a need to pray right? you just switch from limb break stun to light stun lock

also im pretty new to discord and sometimes i get ramdom dm requests from pepole ive never met befoure is that normal like a telemarketer thing or just receving it in error

[timid grove]

hello?

[ocean spindle]

a

well um if they r like offerin idk services its probs bots

[neon gust]

Is it me who you looking for

[timid grove]

witch vershion

also how dose one use the heavy assult rifle

[topaz anvil]

You point and click

[past mesa]

^^^^

Preferably on the sleepers

[topaz anvil]

Dang I'm getting scam called on discord

[ocean spindle]

usually by small taps, its not a like full on auto like aachinegun for spray and pray
the high dmg with the low ammo just its better to o smol bursts
also its not, super bad for bits, its 150 dmg total per mag but, it is not ideal either cause low ammo

[sturdy glen]

how many bullets do ppl think har gets compared to arbalist

without looking it up

[sturdy glen]

yo I got it too after typing here

lets goo

[hazy oak]

Oh god uh...70 shots at 100%?

[ocean spindle]

compared to arbalist? as in total or per ammo refill or somethin?

in total i think its about, 119

or somethin

[sturdy glen]

total ammo doesnt matter

(for the most part)

(its tied to refills anyways)

[ocean spindle]

so u mean by refill??

um

fuck

[sturdy glen]

because ppl say har ammo is bad a lot

but say arbalist is really good

[ocean spindle]

bout, one mag? mag and a bit?

an ammo its about 30% so

i imagine...

35 bullets

is my guess

[sturdy glen]

how much more do you think arb gets

[ocean spindle]

oh god

no fuckin clue

i dont even know its total ammo, i dont remember the mag size

[sturdy glen]

it gets 4 more per refill

only 4

I dont really get it man

[ocean spindle]

searchin it i mean it does have about a mag more in total with the same or same-ish dmg
its basically, same gun but different approaches, and the high recoil of HAR throws people back plus the smaller mag size

not by a lot damn

149 in har

[sturdy glen]

dont know how weve gotten so far into arb is amazing and har sucks

confuses me

[ocean spindle]

i guess its kind of a matter on how it feels
i like har a lot but i can understand why someone who has bad recoil control woudnt choose it

and if they do they would probs go for the veruta instead

arbalist its the low recoil automatic, and it packs a punch cause of it and only really suffers of, a slower rate of fire

[neon gust]

Because arbalist

Shoots slower

So it feels like it have more ammo

[neon gust]

Slow rate of fire its good

[ocean spindle]

well
yeah
but its like the only, part i can compare that its lower

if it was og r6 har then i could see it just being worse

but now theres not an special gun that has such low recoil

an auto special gun

[neon gust]

Because its not like the other guns that have soke gimmick to it

Arbalist its such a good gun im surprise people sometimes skip it

I wouldnt mind har going to r6 version since all the guns are basically in the right spot

And hsmg special

😭

[ocean spindle]

no yeah they all, good
i like hsmg in main tho it b funky and i can take hel gun its a win win

[neon gust]

Nah

We have everything but double smgs

[topaz anvil]

We even get triple shotguns

[neon gust]

Aside from that too many smgs on main

Oh oh

[hardy grotto]

Heavy smg moved to special in r8

[neon gust]

Beep minion

[hardy grotto]

I can feel it

You’are mad

[sturdy glen]

ig that makes sense

[hardy grotto]

have you ever wanted to be a pirate blackdragon

[neon gust]

Sea of thieves?

[hardy grotto]

Yea

[neon gust]

Is it good?

[hardy grotto]

I like it

[neon gust]

I mean i just know that crowbat video

[hardy grotto]

it has issues tho :D

[neon gust]

So i my perspective on thst game its twisted

[neon gust]

Its about the feel

[rose stirrup]

For r4b2, can you complete main before doing the secondary + overload?

[ocean spindle]

sec no, u need to do secondary before main otherwise u just get locked out of it, and the objective doesnt matter its just an excuse to activate the door, but u do need the bulkhead inside of it
overload i think u could, but it would be weird, ov its in ur way, and its just better to do it right away from what ik to first just get it out of the way first, and second cause if u plug cells it gets harder since the fog i think goes down and limits visibility

[jagged shore]

overload is locked behind secondary cause of bulkhead keys

[neon gust]

Sequence its extreme, half of main > overload> finish main

Unless you wanna go crazy and cover the entirety of overload in fog

Wich is harder

[jagged shore]

bah people have done harder

[sturdy glen]

gen cluster also has an extract alarm doesnt it?

[rose stirrup]

for r4b2, ive failed twice now and noticed that the more cells i put in, it seems like the fog is getting worse. am i going crazy or is this true? i thought cells usually lowered the fog, not make it worse

[floral acorn]

secondary, main start opening doors and clearing enemies, then hit overload before plugging anything in

once overload done, finish main, endure the extract error, gtfo

[rose stirrup]

should i hold all 4 cells and put them all in at the end?

[floral acorn]

leave them by the cluster.. u dont' have to scan all alarms before hitting overload

once overload is done, plugin asap, fog will go down and help get the rest

[rose stirrup]

gotcha tyty

[floral acorn]

good luck, banger of a level, never again 🙂

[neon gust]

It aint that bad

One of my favorite levels

Push push no thinking

[modest monolith]

... i had to think whether or not should i insert the cell...

but...

push push push :">

[sturdy glen]

push push straight to overload

[floral acorn]

i like the elevation changes and the gradual fog changes, seeing that stuff descend on the 2nd and 3rd looks so cool

[ashen frigate]

What I really like is that you "curse" the lower areas when you "cleanup" the upper ones

Compared to R2D1 where you only open up more available areas, deeper and deeper

[neon gust]

Everybody gangsta until your homoe puts a cell and cover overload while you there 😔

[modest monolith]

and there's no homies after that...

[neon gust]

Stamina cannot stop me from.shooting that man at extract

[devout bane]

whats currently the hardest rundown atm just want to know?

[tepid sand]

People usually say either R4/R5

[devout bane]

ahh ok was thinking those 2 were they look way more intense then others haven't done them yet because been trying to finish the newer rundowns with all the additional objectives

[fierce walrus]

R4 and R5 also have optionals

R4 was the first rundown with optionals

[devout bane]

Yeah planning to do them soon enough but seem fun those 2

[neon gust]

R4 its fun

R5 its long

[torpid token]

R4:7PEs
R5:5PEs
R6:2PEs
R7:3PEs

[remote umbra]

any settings tips I should know to make the game run better, or more optimal for gameplay in general, etc.

[tardy ingot]

Display:
fov at base is 55, set it to at minimum 70 (80-100 is recommended tho)

Motion blur off

Gameplay:
Camera shake low or off
First person inertia low or off

[soft crater]

Everyone pretty much runs 90-120 FoV

But 100-120 or so you begin getting that fisheye effect

[dry pumice]

The 75 enjoyer:

[soft crater]

The only confirmed 75 FoV users I know of

Are Rayalot and MakoCho

[olive robin]

I feel so slow on low fov

[soft crater]

Rayalot wanted more FoV but not so much it isn't like what's intended with 55/ enemy bodies aren't visually small with higher FoVs

Mako played 55 but they went 5 fov every now and then. Now probably peaking at 75 now

[soft crater]

This should make enemies look slower as well.

But I can get it

In comparison to other games

55fov is a weird default

[olive robin]

Idk it's weird

[soft crater]

My only assumption is. Devs use a wide screen at 55 fov in-game

But if it's genuinely 55fov

It scares me how they play other games

[tardy ingot]

its most likely for the claustrophobic vision

you see less = you know less = unknown = more scary

[dry pumice]

I just like being able to "kiss" the environment by getting real close to it

I used to play Borderlands 2 with like 60-65 FoV

[tardy ingot]

Gotta play at 20 fov artek

[civic wave]

First thing I did when I got the game was immediately max out my fov and never turn it down

[dry pumice]

I think I recently reduced mine from 75 to 65...

Don't feel a difference, really.

[verbal zinc]

[soft crater]

El Guefo. What FoV u Use

[verbal zinc]

12

[soft crater]

notes it down

FuegoBlade tells lies.

[ocean spindle]

el fuego sables de fuego

[misty kernel]

so pretty much stuck and cant do R3C1, at the end nonstop 4-8x charger comes at u, if they were coming from 1 side only thats doable but for me its kinda impossible when they are at u from all direction at once
what guns should i use? i used arbalist V and hel revolver, wasnt doing that well

[severe wraith]

Why gtfo so hard. This is my question

[neon gust]

wait clear wave push

check biotracker for direction constantly

[upper ginkgo]

consider using hel-rifle if you want a reliable charger one shot option

[neon gust]

^

[misty kernel]

playin with 2 bots mind you

[neon gust]

whats theyre loadout

also yeah hel rifle and helgun are good against chargers

[ocean spindle]

hel shottie for playin with bots tbh it's not bad cause u stagger them a lot, and u can push the waves a bit like behind so the bots have time to shoot 'em

high cal it's also a good option for oneshot

[severe wraith]

If you can’t have a full team, is using bots really worth it? I want to keep to playing with only one friend

[ocean spindle]

as long as u don't go past the range

[ocean spindle]

they r worth for their tools and on some situations yeah

[neon gust]

you can play all the content with 2 players+ 2 bots Except R7E1

but you will struggle

[severe wraith]

Cool, struggling is fine, that’s why I play

[ocean spindle]

it would b better with a full team but goin full duo instead of 2 bots it's gonna hurt a bit more

[severe wraith]

Got it

[neon gust]

Once you understand the game and its fundamentals and how the bots play you will see yourself beating most levels

but the initial struggle might shoot you down

[severe wraith]

I only recently started playing so it’s already a struggle as is

[neon gust]

Its normal, if you ever feel stuck you can always ask here for peeps to help on strats etc

[severe wraith]

Alright, I’ll make sure to ask bc neither me or my friend know what we’re doing and we plan on playing just us two

[neon gust]

I recommend you play initially until you get angry

[severe wraith]

LOL

[neon gust]

thats how the memories are made

!

because if you come here for every little roadblock then you will be spoiled and mostly be told everything

[severe wraith]

You’ll never get better if you always ask for help

I’ll play until I want to quit before asking^

[tardy ingot]

Huh
Why not r7e1?

its not a standout thing with anything?

[turbid horizon]

it’s pretty difficult because of the tanks + pabbo

[tardy ingot]

Obviozsly its an e tier

[turbid horizon]

Also R4E1 lmao

[tardy ingot]

but it got duod without the biggest issues

every content is duoable

[turbid horizon]

Yeah lol

[tardy ingot]

but it obviously gets very hard

just dont know why dragon said it wasnt doable

[turbid horizon]

I think Gerz has proven that

Anything is duoable except Lockout F1

[tardy ingot]

modded doesnt count

[turbid horizon]

It does tho

[tardy ingot]

no

[turbid horizon]

:(

[tardy ingot]

modded isnt base game

modded can do levels that NEED 3 players

[turbid horizon]

Wait eva there is one other level

Training

[tardy ingot]

pff

that doesnt need more than 2 tho

[turbid horizon]

But it can’t be duoed

:)

[tardy ingot]

theres been 3 levels that havent been solod without glitches

Theres been no level that hasnt been duod

[turbid horizon]

Wait what is the 3rd

R7D1?

Oh wait DX

*CX right?

[tardy ingot]

R6DX now CX

[neon gust]

I love how i go for like a little and its like a whole shebbang of 1 thing i said

even tho the shit its answer on a previous statement

like do you guys even read

r7e1 its a pain in the ass with bots

pablo just kills them

[visual iris]

only real bot users know

[neon gust]

and without having to remove them and adding them its pretty shit

[neon gust]

i know

my point was that you can beat everything confortably with bots exept r7e1

ive been saying that since forever

[visual iris]

first half sucks ass

[neon gust]

he just acting like i said something radical now because hes dumb

[visual iris]

especially arena if u dont perma cfoam

[neon gust]

if they made inmortal not target bots that would be huge qol

and you could probably beat it without removing them all the time

[tardy ingot]

like snatchers

yea

[neon gust]

stop tagging me for shit i didnt say!!!!

[tardy ingot]

You didnt send the comfortably, so it doesnt read the same

I was like „am i missing smth“

[neon gust]

the word i was gonna say its banned

[visual iris]

went down
revived
went down
revived...

[tardy ingot]

huh

[ocean spindle]

smh cant believe u said mamawebo

[neon gust]

yeah that and not standing in circle

[tardy ingot]

the snatcher thing was regarding pablo and bots qol

[neon gust]

glu glu

mr world wide mister 305

[visual iris]

imagine doing 2 on 2 and bots refuse to step into the last security scan

[neon gust]

ya tu sabe

been there done that

[visual iris]

💀

[ocean spindle]

soreal

[neon gust]

insta kick

hirnukuono made some mods that kinda help me understand what would be good to have and not have

he a real one

[visual iris]

good lad indeed
doing the lord's work

[neon gust]

I would made a whole feedback page like a did when i release the guide

[ocean spindle]

me doin the r6c1 scan and seein a bot run off to the start of the level: uh

[neon gust]

but i dont even know if 10cc will put in work

[ocean spindle]

the guide

[visual iris]

wishful thinking

[neon gust]

got used to the pain

[visual iris]

valve made some fixes for half life after 25 years

im sure devs would do some like that

[hardy grotto]

@neon gust

Schlorp

[neon gust]

good times

[hardy grotto]

better days…

[dry pumice]

The age of the shlorp, and shlorp related accessories

[soft crater]

[dry pumice]

Why Arknights Official Discord has a gif of Tom digging his own grave...

Nvm, that's not Tom... But it really looked like it.

[wind wren]

Can bbcs still spawn on r7d2 if only the shadow room has been opened?

[ocean spindle]

no

it spawns shadow giants

instead of bbcs

[wind wren]

Alr cuz that's what just happend to me

[ocean spindle]

a

[wind wren]

Multiple bbcs started spawning despite not opening charger zone

No smalls tho(I think

I didn't see any small chargers at least

[ocean spindle]

thats
a weird one

were u playin with people

[fierce walrus]

you sure no one opened the other zone?

[wind wren]

Yes

100%

[turbid horizon]

At the very end?

[ocean spindle]

it mightve been daks bug, where some enemies just start spawnin on a weird surge but i have, no idea

[turbid horizon]

Because I think it spawns bbc regardless

Or did you open dad zone

[wind wren]

Yes

We opened dad zone

[fierce walrus]

That spawns them im pretty sure

[wind wren]

But first bbc was b4 we opened dad zone

[fierce walrus]

dont bbcs spawn at the beginning normally?

[turbid horizon]

Then someone had to have opened charger zone

[wind wren]

We fought it like right after entering generator zone

[turbid horizon]

Either that or conditionals are bugged and we don’t know ab it

[wind wren]

I would also just think that but there were no small chargers

Just bbcs

[old radish]

what is bbc

[turbid horizon]

Big charger

[old radish]

o:

[ocean spindle]

:#

[light cradle]

predictions of new update date?

[fierce walrus]

december

[light cradle]

yes I think also

probably before christmas

[wind wren]

is the mine diametre or radius 3m?

i forgor

i think its the diametre but not 100% sure

[ocean spindle]

yeah

[lone isle]

Hey all, my boi and I are thinking about picking this up on sale
Do you need a dedicated 4-stack to play it?
Can we play just the two of us?
Appreciate any feedback anyone may have
Thank you

[wind wren]

i edited my msg is it the radius or nah?

[ocean spindle]

hello, u can play it duo, and complete like everything and just go with two more bots
but some of the missions will be harder, specially like the most difficult ones

but u can technically complete it all like that

[civic wave]

every mission in the game is possible duo (if you're skilled enough)
alternatively you can use the lfg in this discord or fill the empty slots with bots which will be adequate for all of your beginner needs

[lone isle]

Thanks friends
Is the community pretty active?
Would it be difficult finding people for random 1-offs?

[civic wave]

some things to note are you can make the bots use their tools by using the Communications menu, and you might want to grab channel access to lfg stuff in Channels & Roles at the top of the server

[wind wren]

nvm i also forgot wiki exists, its 3m diameter

[civic wave]

it isn't too difficult and you should be able to find someone for whatever you're playing

[ocean spindle]

best bet its to like make a couple friendos on LFG and then just make a team like that
its not hard to find people

[minor fractal]

Tank zone spawns BBCs

[wind wren]

Good to know, but I saw bbcs b4 I opened it to get cell (I was getting codes etc)

Or I'm just slow and misremembering it

[fathom fjord]

Hello everyone. Have any of you completed Alt R4 E1 with 3 players + 1 bot ? Is it theoretically possible ? We tried a bunch of times with my group already and the bot is just such a hindrance. Any feedback appreciated. Thank you.

[past mesa]

YES it is what are you having a hard time with

[fathom fjord]

Well as usual he gets in the way when preparing doors for alarms (c-foam, mines, etc ...), he tends to go out just as you close the door, always making you lose precious seconds. And most annoying of all of course, he just get obliterated by Tanks, so he's mostly down or at 20% health.

[civic wave]

you can have one person sit at alarm door with bot probably, while the others do the prep

cfoam not recommended for this level

[past mesa]

tbh

maybe just despawn him for tanks

[tardy ingot]

might pick up stuff

probably safer to learn to duo tank then?

[fathom fjord]

Completely doable. And do what with the bot, lock him out of the room in the mean time ? We never thought about that, it sounds like a good idea.

[tardy ingot]

have third person move forward/away with him and loot/clear ahead

basically what they could be doing anyway

[fathom fjord]

Will try that, thanks.
Yeah I know, it's just that we like to clear the Tanks using 3 players so it's mighty quick. With 2 players we've noticed that they just tend to face towards both of us at the same time and we can hardly shoot its back (especially low tumors)

Any other advice ?

[tardy ingot]

how is it looking at both of you at the same time huh

[civic wave]

probably doing the funny thing of turning constantly so it's hard to get a shot off

[tardy ingot]

get on opposite sides of tank
Have good tank killin gun
Have 1 guy aggro (shoot, keep line of sight)
Other guy blasts tumors

[civic wave]

it's a matter of technique mostly, can try abusing elevation to have an easier time

[tardy ingot]

that too

honestly biggest f u is just the fog

and if you dont have great anti tank guns

its gonna take longer or be more tricky

[fathom fjord]

Yeah exactly, no matter the elevation you just can't see anything with the fog.

[tardy ingot]

gotta be faster then

fog lowers steadily for that

[fathom fjord]

You know about the godly ability of tanks to face exactly in a way that nobody can shoot its back even though you're standing at polar opposites ?

[tardy ingot]

going towards walls

/corners

just back away

[fathom fjord]

Yep, exactly

How to back away and shoot its back at the same time ?

[tardy ingot]

back away so it comes out

then shoot

or find better spots

[dry pumice]

Well ideally tanks should be engaged by at least 2 people from opposite sides and they take turns, occasionally relaying that tank is now looking at them and they can no longer take shots.

Bonus points if both have something that hits hard, like uh... Sniper Rifle, Burst Cannon, Choke Mod, something among those lines.

[fathom fjord]

Tanks are just too good at turning around a pivot instantly and never showing their backs, even after applying all the tips mentionned above, they behave too funny in my opinion.

[wind wren]

If host-client shenanigans were to be fixed. What weapons would get nerfed by that the most? Probably just scattergun and sniper right?
Sure burst cannon would take a hit as well but ok tumors it already often doesn't do full dmg when the connection is very good

[minor fractal]

Because your aggro taker is hiding too early

[craggy pier]

burst cannon

[minor fractal]

or your damage dealer isn't peaking at the correct time.

[dry pumice]

Don't they only change targets of obsession if damaged?

[minor fractal]

Eh, BC is one of the better boss killers for host.

[wind wren]

Yeah for sure

[craggy pier]

client shenanigan removal means no more uh

overhitting stuff

[fathom fjord]

No, Tanks have a special ability to face 4 players at the same time.

[craggy pier]

also i am bleeding out next to a scout

why do i hear bells

[minor fractal]

The client boss interactions are not latency-related.

It's a fundamental difference in how the game handles boss tumors between host and client.

[wind wren]

Hf triggering it for ur team and being able to do absolutely nothing about it

[minor fractal]

Client gets its full advantage on a LAN connection.

[wind wren]

Oh, I thought it just doesn't update it fast enough to recognise the tumor is not there anymore. But yeah my thought process kinda doesn't make sense on 2nd thought since it caps out on max tumor hp not on current hp

[civic wave]

well I mean

I guess on client there is the funny thing of if your ping is high enough

tumours will take longer to disappear

so you can still use those to deal damage to the enemy

I know badger had a clip of it but I'm not sure if I could find it

[wind wren]

Lagging out my game to get that extra dmg let's go? My bad Internet is actually good for once?

[native sun]

There are two parts to client advantage.

How the game handles tumor health is not ping dependent, and client gets advantage.

Being able to repeatedly damage the same tumor before an update from host is ping dependent. However, it doesn't matter how good your ping is a shotgun shot is not going to get an update in time. It could only practically matter for burst cannon, and that would need an insanely fast ping.

Could matter for shooting some weapons twice, like chokemod or scatter, but again, you'd need ridiculously fast connection.

[civic wave]

i foudn the clip in question

[wind wren]

Feel free to share, I'm very curious what that looks like

[civic wave]

i'll dm, would probably get deleted in this server

[wind wren]

Alr

[sturdy glen]

scattergun dies a horrible painful death
sniper sinks further into the ditch

[native sun]

Yo we get to comm tumor damage again, I missed that week

[sturdy glen]

all that work

just to find out it didnt matter

[native sun]

It mattered in our hearts

[tardy ingot]

scattergun would suffer rly bad yea

[past mesa]

burst cannon worse

all shotugn worse

[tardy ingot]

Honestly sniper isnt as hit as many make it out to be

As its the safest take vs bosses again (not mom) if you just dont fucking shoot tumors when you have one

[sturdy glen]

having a host sniper on your team forces you to just full kill with sniper

which is slow

[soft crater]

There be gun tier lists but what about gun loadout tier lists

[minor fractal]

Specials should have tier lists per level, and Mains should have tier lists per Special.

This is the way.

[past mesa]

this is the way

[neon gust]

can we pls have a client vs host tier list

i feel this will greatly affect the other 90% of the community

[minor fractal]

We need a big flow chart

to decide the tier list

that you look at

[neon gust]

can we add this to the podcast that i gave to eva

this will change everything for GTFO 2.0

[native sun]

I think special tier list per level is too broad, it should be per zone

[neon gust]

we should do a geomorph tierlist

[sturdy glen]

that would go hard

[neon gust]

and go trough every individual room/room connector/special tile

[native sun]

Add it to eva's talk show BD

[sturdy glen]

tile type tier list

i tile S

[neon gust]

geo_64x64_service_floodwayshubA2

its my favorite

[hardy grotto]

this is too many tier lists guys

[past mesa]

cheese spot teir list

[hardy grotto]

Now ur talking

[past mesa]

is the railing of lethal company

[neon gust]

I love you all

[soft crater]

[past mesa]

a good cheese spot

i think

[hardy grotto]

S+

[past mesa]

b teir

[soft crater]

Tierlist_dragon

[hardy grotto]

Nothing can harm you up there jish

it’s so good

[soft crater]

Sentry: lights up

[past mesa]

jester can

cant they?

[soft crater]

[hardy grotto]

No it breaks the ai

[past mesa]

can wait till railing gets nerfed

[hardy grotto]

same with bracken

[past mesa]

no way

[hardy grotto]

It’s literally the best cheese spot

We’ve become the enemy

[neon gust]

lethal company players saying theyre good at the game jumping on railing the second they hear a small noise

[past mesa]

is it better than r6c2

[past mesa]

XD

[hardy grotto]

wait till I solo dog