gtfo-related-questions

[narrow niche]

:D

[hidden ridge]

Also I'd need to relearn how much it takes to kill shit, its range... whatnot

[olive robin]

.1 less

[narrow niche]

Yes

[olive robin]

.1 seconds is of minimal consequence

[sturdy glen]

It's just smaller in general which is the main reason I don't like it as much

[narrow niche]

Still less™️

God

[hidden ridge]

It's... why bother?

[olive robin]

I wish bat became axe

[sturdy glen]

I can play sledge like I play other melee games

[hidden ridge]

I considered spear "fun" when you could easily brush to kill a stack of 3 strikers

[olive robin]

And specialized in hitting multiple dudes in one swing

[narrow niche]

Tbf with spear you can stand in place and melee a giant so

It's funny

[olive robin]

Spear pierce when

[narrow niche]

Real

[hidden ridge]

Which was probably too much but a tradeoff for "you cant run" I'd probably vaguely consider in maps where I need to hold down or shit like that

[olive robin]

Spear needs to drill through the competition

[narrow niche]

You can speedwalk now so

[dry pumice]

That is what they tried to do. They didn't like it.

Just reduce the goddamn charge time.

[craggy pier]

how do i make a vc?

[hidden ridge]

Irrelevant imho

If you dont get out of enemies range in time

you dont

no amount of "nearly, but..." is going to help

[narrow niche]

Just hit them before they attack lmao

It has the range

[arctic marten]

you just join an existing one

[hidden ridge]

As opposed to hammer? where I can do the same?

[olive robin]

You have 3m range

[narrow niche]

Well fair

I didn't say it was better

[hidden ridge]

But I'm faster so I can save if I long range something

[arctic marten]

Preferably an empty one if you’re hosting

[narrow niche]

:D

[olive robin]

You can literally hit enemies outside crouch alert range

[narrow niche]

It's funnier

[hidden ridge]

or just find a box and circle around it

[narrow niche]

Also this

[dry pumice]

Yet to verify that

[narrow niche]

Hm

[olive robin]

The verification is crouch alert is 2m, spear range is 3m

[craggy pier]

well i got me and 2 others and theres none with 1 person

[olive robin]

It proves itself

[hidden ridge]

and?

[olive robin]

It's cool

I only don't use spear to limit my power

[arctic marten]

Make a post in one of the lfg channels

[dry pumice]

Question: anyone here actually cares about crouch alert?

[narrow niche]

Lmao

[olive robin]

That's why I take knife on solo with bot levels

[hidden ridge]

I guess it's a matter of how people have fun then

[narrow niche]

No

[olive robin]

You can slide into it maybe

[narrow niche]

Hm

[olive robin]

Sprint then slide before 7m

[dry pumice]

In my experience it doesn't matter.

It's all about casual stroll

[olive robin]

It doesn't

You can casual stroll safer with 3m range

[dry pumice]

Crouching wastes time unless there is a big tight cluster and people are setting up a sync kill

[narrow niche]

Why sync when headtap

[olive robin]

Why stealth when you can set up a mine deployer domino

[narrow niche]

Ah yes

[sturdy glen]

Walking syncs them like a flashlight

[narrow niche]

Even better

[olive robin]

If you set your mines right you can clear entire rooms by triggering your mines with your mines

[dry pumice]

They just need to keep increasing prec damage

Until its stupid high

[olive robin]

Knife should one shot on precision

Idk why

It'd be cool i think

[narrow niche]

Lmao

[dry pumice]

TF2 spy wannabe would be hilarious

[narrow niche]

One tap giant

[surreal lake]

Couldn’t you just set a single mine at the door, shoot then close it at this point?

[olive robin]

Not as cool

Also that destroys a door

Mine domino doesnt

[surreal lake]

Just open the door when they cluster then no?

[hidden ridge]

A door>multiple mines?

[olive robin]

With 4 mine deployers yeah

Also you get style points for mine domino

[narrow niche]

A door > team synchronization

[arctic marten]

Style players 👎

[dry pumice]

How dare you

[lyric mist]

What the hell is mine domino?

[narrow niche]

Set of mines with a mine

With mines

Using mines

[lyric mist]

Cool I understand everything now

No but really how do you set it up

[hidden ridge]

Mine's explosion can trigger other mines

[surreal lake]

Its just mines exploding onto other mines

[narrow niche]

Honestly why do an of this for a cluster when you could just stay at 20

And suicide

[hidden ridge]

Mines explode in a cilindrical shape thingy

[lyric mist]

How does that help with hitting a wave of enemies? Wouldn't the first one trigger the mines and die alone?

I may be stupid

[olive robin]

A mine can trigger another mine, so you can place mines in the explosion column of other mines for a chain reaction that wipes out a room

[narrow niche]

Wave?

[lyric mist]

Oh

[olive robin]

It's for a sleeper room

[dry pumice]

What a horrific use of a perfectly fine tool

[olive robin]

Technically, you can do it during waves too

[ocean spindle]

sounds funny lol

[olive robin]

Put it above head level then manually trigger it with bullet

[lyric mist]

Yeah turns out I was stupid, thanks for the help lol

[narrow niche]

Well technically you could just mine suicide a cluster

[olive robin]

The explosion column is wide enough to clip enemies

[olive robin]

Truly

[narrow niche]

Instead of all this complex stupidity

You could have simple stupidity

[olive robin]

You do a mine domino for style points

Or giants clustered

[narrow niche]

Set up mines strategically?

[lyric mist]

If the mine guy is at 20% this doesn't sound too bad

[narrow niche]

Unga bunga boom

[vague bridge]

is this by pure proximity or whether mines are within the explosion

[olive robin]

Mines in explosive column

Mines make a 3m wide 15 meter cylinder centered on the mine

Going outward

[vague bridge]

okay cool

[olive robin]

is it true that evade is apparently bugged?

saw a client side mod claiming it fixed said bug
"R6 changes introduced stamina among other things, so devs changed how the method for getting velocity works, imposing a max speed limit. That's all fine and well except evade normally goes way beyond that, whereas now it's capped and so it technically works, but it causes you to move at sprint speed instead of evade speed."

is this true

@shadow flower do you know anything about the evade function being potentially bugged/limited unintentionally?

[neon gust]

Thats hella cheat

If you meant it added dodge/dash again yes

[olive robin]

yea

but was dodge/dash nerfed

or was it bugged

[civic wave]

Movement changed in r6, whether or not it was the intended outcome I don't know

You win some you lose some

[olive robin]

the mod creator is calling it an unintended bug

i wanna know if it is a bug or intended

cause evades are rarely used from what i know

[civic wave]

Do you know how the movement used to work/exactly what "evade" is?

I feel like I've heard that the mod can also mess some things up in a funny way but I could be misremembering

[soft crater]

Stamina yes. Speed limits dodge.

You can still jump off the bugged dodge

You have that momentum for a split second

The mod just fixes it so dodging works

[olive robin]

so is dodging bugged or nerfed

[soft crater]

Bugged

Dodging is still in base game in a broken state.

As I said. You can jump within that small time frame and get momentum off it

[soft crater]

I've been using it and it pretty much makes dodge/movement tech easier to do. Which not even most people/vets do.

[arctic marten]

cheater

[soft crater]

Imo it is a in-game function that worked properly until stamina was introduced. And it still functions with stamina but worthless to do unless you can do the timing for dodge jumps.

[neon gust]

Its bugged since og r6

It had a lot of utility in combat

Really.nice feature to go crazy

[olive robin]

so then they should fix it

[neon gust]

Well.no shit

🐒🐒

[civic wave]

if it stays bugged for years maybe it's a feature at this point...

[arctic marten]

can you post this in #gtfo-lore please

[neon gust]

Gotta wait for r8 for actual fixes

[soft crater]

The fixes are being perma foamed

[turbid horizon]

omg that emote reminded me that today I saw a giant put his arms in the air

[dry pumice]

Such a weird animation

It's like he's either praying or casually going "BOYS!"

[turbid horizon]

RAISE THE ROOF

[tardy ingot]

when the giant is ranting about his teamsleepers dying and being left alone to deal with 3 crackheads

[craggy pier]

Yo is an "Expedition" a WHOLE rundown? or just one mission?

[jagged shore]

just one mission

rundowns are the sets of missions

[rain valley]

im finally back, what are the meta weapons?

[ocean spindle]

um

hel revo carbine thats it

but u dont need em to win every time either

ah well n hammer

[turbid horizon]

Hel shotty too

But that one takes skill

[ocean spindle]

yeah i mean its a bit more level dependant but the levels it works on, works on

[dry pumice]

Tldr: literally nothing changed

It's been this way since.... R7?

[turbid horizon]

nah

carbine got buffed more

In between

[ocean spindle]

didnt carbine get an ammo nerf

well things have changed smg its usable sawed off too heavy assault rifle is back burst cannon ton shit of stuff

[turbid horizon]

slight ammo nerf

But iirc it just kept getting buffed

[rain valley]

base smg is still better than good

[hardy grotto]

This person was here for the last weapon changes

Smg is not that insane

[dry pumice]

It's fine

It will kill things and you don't reload it for 3 seconds

But not amazing indeed.

[civic wave]

there's nothing explicitly wrong with it, but there's nothing explicitly right with it either

[turbid horizon]

mmmm yeah

[civic wave]

it reloads pretty fast which is good but eh, plenty of guns are in the same reload ballpark

[turbid horizon]

I think it’s fine tbh

If vanilla had my AR change I’d be happy with all the full auto’s

Except machine pistol because I genuinely forgot it existed

[rain valley]

reload speed + 50 mag makes smg pretty sweet

[turbid horizon]

I honestly might give it a bit faster reload in Occlusion, Machine piss

just so it has near constant uptime

[dry pumice]

Doesn't it have like 150 extra bullets vs smg

It's selling point seems to be "infinite" ammo

[turbid horizon]

Eh

[dry pumice]

Insane fire rate too. Could be the fastest in the game.

[turbid horizon]

Doesn’t make it good lmao

[dry pumice]

I use it every so often and honestly my only complaint is that hipfire is too fat while ADS is too frustrating to work with. Tighten that shit up and you and get a closer range, higher DPS SMG with rudimentary ADS, as if it was a shotgun.

[ocean spindle]

spray n pray ah

[rain valley]

sounds good to me

[tardy ingot]

smg as very good lol

[ocean spindle]

u just hate, existence smh my head

[tardy ingot]

nah i rate it pretty well

for a full auto

[rain valley]

hearing this from EVA makes my day

[arctic marten]

Eva can you tell him that smg sucks

Thanks

[rain valley]

suck mah balls chimp

[ocean spindle]

eva protocol ND6 s-type, sayin smg sucks

[hazy wedge]

Machine pistol is kinda underrated

[arctic marten]

mods, get ‘im

[ocean spindle]

is so fun

[rain valley]

brah

[sturdy glen]

smg when it doesnt stand out in a single way whatsoever

[rain valley]

machine pistol is fun

[rain valley]

as long as it doesnt suck, it doesnt have to stand out

[sturdy glen]

I think id rather ppl be stuck on bullpup in current balance

[turbid horizon]

or just play what you like

[rain valley]

bullpup is great, it just has slow reload

[turbid horizon]

it’s not like any weapon is explicitly bad anymore

[turbid horizon]

It used to be slower

[ocean spindle]

it is a slow reload

[rain valley]

you cant reload cancel bullpup

[hazy wedge]

Bullpup rifle makes my stomach turn weird

[ocean spindle]

lke its better but still slow

w wuh

u ok?

[hazy wedge]

No 😭

[rain valley]

smg, fast, smooth, big mag

[ocean spindle]

q-q

[sturdy glen]

guns you cant reload cancel are so funny

I love them

[hardy grotto]

DAMN BULLPUPS GREAT

at least nobody is bringing up the fucking 0.91 precision multi on smg anymore

[arctic marten]

You are right now

[hardy grotto]

yea but im not using it as a talking point for the gun being good

[rain valley]

told u

[arctic marten]

Now look at what you’ve done

[hardy grotto]

LOL

[ocean spindle]

hey did u know smg has 0.91 precision multi thats so good for an auto it must be amazing

[hardy grotto]

they dont understand the reference

its so tragic

[ocean spindle]

nope

[arctic marten]

But bro is still gonna be spouting it for weeks

[rain valley]

reference ||deez nuts||

[hardy grotto]

dont concern yourself with the opinion of a small dog mountainman

in time they will learn...

or not

doesnt bother me either way

[rain valley]

who is the small dog here, puppy?

[arctic marten]

It’s you

[hardy grotto]

the person who thinks smg is good

[rain valley]

lol, bring me on any mission, and ill show u the power of smg, just lemme sober up

[civic wave]

who would win, sarr or a giant ass fucking rock, like a giant fucking rock, an immovable rock with its own ecosystem

I think the mountain wins

[rain valley]

ofc u would pachi

[arctic marten]

bro literally IS the bull pup clip

[civic wave]

I feel like this is an attack on my character

[hardy grotto]

dam smgs great

[civic wave]

I mean I don't get offended but

that felt personal

[rain valley]

i may be dumb as hell, but i can shoot like shit

[arctic marten]

I’m sorry to hear that

[hardy grotto]

we'll see i suppose

[rain valley]

te he~

[arctic marten]

This is the perfect time to manifest the smg only d1

[hardy grotto]

its never gonna happen

[arctic marten]

I know…

[hardy grotto]

im sorry mountainman

maybe after r8...

[civic wave]

do explain

[hardy grotto]

whats there to explain

[arctic marten]

If you were sorry you would play blackwake

[hardy grotto]

r2d1 smg only

im not gonna play blackwake

[rain valley]

who is mountainman?

[hardy grotto]

it has like 5 players

[arctic marten]

Could be 6

[hardy grotto]

chimp davies (elderly)

[arctic marten]

But you playin’

[ocean spindle]

whos chimp davies (elderly)

[hardy grotto]

mountainman

[rain valley]

chimp is old? i bet im older, in a bad way

[arctic marten]

it’s exactly what is sounds like

I’m 68

[civic wave]

I immediately thought of r1d1 so you failed, sir

[rain valley]

i doubt that

[hardy grotto]

hes an old chimp

hes had a good life

[rain valley]

chimp isnt 68 cuz they said that a year ago

[civic wave]

never trust a 15 year old to be honest

[hardy grotto]

i dont trust u pachi its ok

[rain valley]

ikr

[arctic marten]

Don’t expose me for being a minor

[rain valley]

im almost double that, gdi

[civic wave]

I

ok.

[rain valley]

i think i trust pachi more than u

[hardy grotto]

smg lover

[arctic marten]

I’m very trustworthy

[rain valley]

yes, and?

[hardy grotto]

unreliable...

[arctic marten]

Huge L

[rain valley]

unreliable?

[hardy grotto]

unreliable...

[rain valley]

what is?

[hardy grotto]

smg...

[ocean spindle]

the nuts

[rain valley]

hits shots for me

[hardy grotto]

so ur using aimbot?

u arent hitting those shots yourself?

im telling the mods...

[rain valley]

lol

just cuz i know how to use an smg doesnt mean im cheating you cheeky puddin

[hardy grotto]

how do you use an smg then

[ocean spindle]

u nom it

[arctic marten]

shoot at whatever someone else/a sentry is already shooting at

[rain valley]

something comes close, full auto, something is somewhat far away, burst fire, smg usague 101

[dry pumice]

i swear if youre tapping it

[hardy grotto]

true

more orange hitmarkers = ur doing more

[turbid horizon]

i semi-burst smg

[rain valley]

i manually burst fire, so yes, i tap fire

[turbid horizon]

[arctic marten]

very true

[turbid horizon]

Imagine, R8 we finally get the fabled semiburst rifle

[ocean spindle]

... like the burst rifle?

the semi burst rifle?

[turbid horizon]

Nah

It’s a game setting for guns

But it doesn’t work

[arctic marten]

too hard to code...

[turbid horizon]

what do you think it would do?

[dry pumice]

You tap every shot in the burst? I don't know, sounds insane to me

[arctic marten]

im assuming click once to fire 1 bullet, hold down m1 to fire repeated bursts

but thats just a guess

[turbid horizon]

interesting

[arctic marten]

idk what else it could be

[dry pumice]

Same

[turbid horizon]

I thought maybe a key to swap between auto and burst fire

[dry pumice]

in other words a change fire mode feature

That's a completely different thing

[arctic marten]

swapping burst cannon to single fire mode

we bouta go a million

[dry pumice]

But it charges x5 longer

Honestly would be balanced, probably

[turbid horizon]

Yeah lmao

Burst sniper

[olive robin]

The burst cannon in question

[mossy aurora]

what do u mean you're back, what are the meta weapons. you were only gone for like 2 weeks

[soft crater]

[midnight tulip]

There's a mission where ||you start out with no ammo|| (don't remember which one). Does using the ammo booster make you start that mission with more ammo?

[jagged shore]

iirc, yes

[sturdy glen]

yes

[jagged shore]

if you wanna cheat :) (jk do what you want)

[pure summit]

is it too late to get pumpkin mask?

[ocean spindle]

think so

it was 12pm sweden time

in there its 2 am

[rain valley]

it was a hard 2 weeks 😭

[scarlet bane]

does anyone know if the main ammo up booster only gives you more main ammo when the run starts or does it give a percent increase for the ammo you can hold?

[jagged shore]

just when you start

[scarlet bane]

ty

[rain valley]

damn I thought it was a boost to total cap

[pearl tendon]

A buddy and I have played the game a fair bit but recently decided to use some QOL mods. However, this locks us out of all our progression thus far. Is there any way to get it back or otherwise remove progression requirements when selecting levels? I've been unable to find anything.

[ocean spindle]

this is probs a question for the modding server

[pearl tendon]

oh so its an entirely different server

[ocean spindle]

yep

.t modding

[uneven gulch]

While we do allow the use of some QoL and visual mods, GTFO doesn't officially support modding. However, we do recognize that a GTFO modding community exists and if you are interested in them, you are welcome to check out the modding communities found in #hc-modded (If you have any more questions, please read rule #12 in the rules channel for more information.)

[soft crater]

if it uses MTFO it likely isn't QoL

at least within this server.

[minor fractal]

^

Would not recommend using anything with MTFO as a dependency.

[jagged shore]

does mtfo itself remove progress?

[minor fractal]

It removes progression.

Progress is stored separately from the progression system itself.

[jagged shore]

that was what i meant

[vague bridge]

from vanilla? or that specific modded profile

[eager jungle]

Pretty new player here, I’ve been experimenting with them and have a fairly good idea, but can anyone give advice on the strengths, weaknesses, and any nuances to consider with the different turrets?

[past mesa]

USE BURST SENTRY

[past star]

USE HEROIC HEART

[ocean spindle]

use machinepistol

:3

[ocean spindle]

ok no

• burst sentry is very flexible, it's nice for medium ranges n stuff and its usually the pick for most levels
• sniper sentry is very high dmg, but in exchange needs biotracker symbiosis to like shoot somewhat fast, and in long ranges is nice, tho it doesnt have a lot of ammo
• shotgun is ok, its useful for choke points and for corners n ladders, usually for close quarters, but it shoots too fast with bio pings and can waste some ammo; still a good choice for some levels
• auto sentry staggers, doesn't really kill, it's a more coop sentry, so it's wayyyy more niche, and usually only like really takes advantage of that factor in a few occasions

[neon gust]

Based take

[ocean spindle]

garcias

[eager jungle]

Thanks for the info

[sturdy glen]

Based take

[soft crater]

Baguette Take

[sinful oasis]

have been playing a bit of solo GTFO (bought the game yesterday) but i have been wondering

how do you deal with those giants

stealthly preferably

if there even is a way

?

[tardy ingot]

Limb break chain

Usually you just shoot them tho

[sinful oasis]

whats that

[native sun]

If you've been playing with bots, just sneak up behind the giant and wait for the bots to gather around it. Then full charge your melee and bonk the giant in the back of the head (hammer or spear preffered). If the bots are feeling generous they'll jump in and help you melee it, but regardless what you should do next is starting charging your melee again for another bonk.

[verbal zinc]

🍽️🤫 Sneaky GTFO tip: Want to take down a giant in the game? Earn its trust by inviting it out for a fancy dinner! Dress up as a chef, whip up a delicious meal, and impress it with your culinary skills. Just make sure to serve something light, because you'll need to be nimble when it least expects it. Bon appétit and say 'Giant, meet your final course!' 🍗💥😄

[native sun]

Or that ^ that's probably better

[sinful oasis]

ig that works too

ty

[verbal zinc]

[mossy aurora]

you can also say "The bigger they are, the harder they fall!" 🗿 🔨

[wind wren]

If i release my hammer with the right timing and walk into the giant, does it have enough time to smack me?

As in who hits first?

[sinful oasis]

is there anyway to give commands to bots

/orders

?

[wind wren]

Press q on your keyboard

[neon gust]

check the steam guide

[wind wren]

That's probably a better idea yeah

[soft crater]

Replace the bot with a player and then they might do the commands you tell them.

[neon gust]

if you time it then you should be good

[wind wren]

Bruh

[narrow niche]

real

[wind wren]

Alr thanks 😄

[neon gust]

by the time your hammer finish traveling and you get in range then you should be hitting them before they hit you

[wind wren]

Just gotta stagger or else 40% hp gone

[neon gust]

now desync will mess you up

BUT

if you hit the stomach

you will get hit

specially if the stomach its destroyed already

[wind wren]

Well ofc, I'd be going for limbbreak on all hits

[neon gust]

shit happens sometimes 🥹

[wind wren]

I'll be fine, its only like half my health gone if I fail

[neon gust]

nah

youll die

big striker hands a two big ass spheres

[narrow niche]

-80 instant

:D

[neon gust]

and theyre melee animation consumes a lot of space infront of it and a little bit of the sides

he can hit you multiple times with 1 swing

you will die

[craggy pier]

Giant punches are dumb

[wind wren]

Welp, it's only like ⅘ of my health gone then

[craggy pier]

His form is garbage

[wind wren]

Agreeeed

[craggy pier]

And yet he deals so much damage

No stance

No closed fists

[narrow niche]

bro is literally built like a truck

what did you expect

[neon gust]

its literally a 500+ pund monster

with somehow a lot of muscle and mass

he will beat the shit out of you even if he doesnt know muay thai

[narrow niche]

bro can walk and delete you

imagine an anvil swinging into your face

now imagine it slightly slower at 10 mph

wow

[wind wren]

Any advice for sniping hybrids? I got like a 66% accuracy against them but for sniping that's kinda low. I just cant fucking figure out their movement

I dont struggle at all w chickens and giants but damn hybrids are quick mfs

[soft crater]

I would just leave a hybrid alive and then watch their movements

[wind wren]

I tried that but it didnt tell me anything. To me its just random movement
I might just be dumb tho

[civic wave]

I feel like they do 1 of 3 things, which is either skittering around, standing still like a fool, or attack animation

It shouldn't take too long to figure out tbh

[wind wren]

But I dont feel like I can predict what they'll do next at all

And I dont wanna wait for the attack animation to shoot

[civic wave]

Do you need to be able to predict what they're gonna do?

I feel like I just react to whatever they do/track their head

[wind wren]

If theres multiple on for ex reactor it would be very very nice

[wind wren]

I'm kinda not fast enough for that if theres like 2 hybrids + some smalls

[soft crater]

You ain't really got a choice but to have a reaction/track head

[wind wren]

But if it's only hybrids yeah. Tho only hybrid is just never rly the case

[soft crater]

Especially in that situation

[civic wave]

I guess the main question is, does predicting their movement let you kill them faster?

[wind wren]

Ig I'll just have to work on that then

[wind wren]

Yes

[civic wave]

I'd say no, because you still need to shoot their head which you can do by tracking/reacting

[soft crater]

In a way yes.

People get familiar with enemy movements and just track head

That or are just good at tracking in general

[wind wren]

For me it certainly makes tracking heads easier

[soft crater]

Makes me think of those guys who can mag dump every bullet into a scrake/Fleshpound weak point

In killing floor 2

[wind wren]

Or even not necessary cuz I know where the heads will be so I can "prepare" instead of reacting

[neon gust]

never track heads

always bait the attack

[olive robin]

You can't predict them because they move randomly

[neon gust]

then just snap at them

[olive robin]

It's not like they're intelligent or something

They just choose an action at random and do it

If your close you can force them swinging but idk why you'd do that on a hybrid

[soft crater]

Use scattergun
Approach enemy

Point in direction enemy

[olive robin]

This is true

On another note

Why are the hipfire reticles so much larger than the actual spread of the gun

[civic wave]

Fov

[soft crater]

Yes

Crosshair doesn't not scale with FoV

Which can be fixed with mods

[dry pumice]

And default fov is like 60 if not less

So...

[soft crater]

55

[olive robin]

Still dumb and silly

[dry pumice]

I gotta try playing the intended way

[ashen frigate]

55 FoV hurts

[soft crater]

I'd like to think the devs play on wide-screen monitors tbh. Otherwise yeah. 55 fov hurts

[olive robin]

It's not playable

Unless you have a huge monitor

[ashen frigate]

90 for the win

[olive robin]

I'm at 100

But yeah

[soft crater]

I do 100 as well

[olive robin]

Would be nice for a scaling reticle

[soft crater]

I can't stand the 120 FoV though

[olive robin]

The warping

[soft crater]

Fisheye effect

The sad part about FoV for base game. WeaponViewModels aren't affected by FoV changes

That's why they still look the same despite the FoV change

[dry pumice]

That explains some things...

[soft crater]

The only way to change that is also through mods

[dry pumice]

Hmmmm

[olive robin]

I made a bug report for the reticle thing

Hopefully it matters

I also made one for the evasion bug

[soft crater]

To my knowledge. No one responds because it's been an issue for a long time and no fixes

[civic wave]

It wont

[olive robin]

Dumb + lame + I'm sad now

[soft crater]

Even then. QoL/Cosmetic mods are allowed within server

[olive robin]

Looks like the r8 bug fix mod pack will be real

[soft crater]

Outside of server. Do w/e you want

Even then. It depends if you can even make use of the dodge mechanic

Dodge tech is still possible even without the mod

[civic wave]

Movement as a whole got changed when r6 came out, some stuff got sidelined and new stuff became possible

[soft crater]

Namely. Bhopping stealth

[civic wave]

Giving yourself evade back keeping the upsides from.post r6 movement is kinda funny

Like sure, it's "bugged", is it intentional or unintentional? And even then its just part of the new movement, you're giving yourself something I don't believe you should have

Is it the most egregious thing? No, but I'll still notice it and call it cheating

Bearing in mind that not all cheating is equal

[turbid horizon]

Just dodge the shooter projectiles normally

[cobalt acorn]

can spear multihit

[dry pumice]

"sort of"

Generally: no, that feature has been cut.
But it still does it, sometimes. Presumably on the same principle as other melees do it.

Notably when 2 enemies are REAL close to each other and you get real close too.

But it's too unreliable to play around. If it happens - just take it as a blessing and move on.

[turbid horizon]

Can someone explain exactly how the host/client tumor popping works? Asking for a friend (legitimately)

Aka why it takes less hits to kill a birther as client over host

[civic wave]

Host cannot overdamage tumours to any significant effect (you can maybe overdamage for 1dmg I think it was)

Client can overdamage tumours to the max hp cap of the tumour (e.g shooting a 1/100 hp tumour will still deal 100 or 101 or whatever damage to the enemy if the shot was 200 damage)

[turbid horizon]

ty

[dry pumice]

So, client can deal up to 2 tumors worth of damage at the price of one, provided he deals high enough over-damage.
How much HP tumors have again?

[craggy pier]

At least 7

[civic wave]

126 for mother, 150 for tank, idk for pmom

And I'm not checking the spreadsheet/wiki rn

[tardy ingot]

313

[craggy pier]

why is it called pmom

[neon gust]

prime mom

[turbid horizon]

there was a very short time where I thought it was paternal mother

[narrow niche]

...

[olive robin]

I genuinely didn't question the p

I was just like "yea pmom for sure that makes sense it's bigger"

[neon gust]

also in r2a1 the cargo you pick up refers to the sample of a pmom

and obviously rundown 3

nice foreshadowing back from early access

[lusty bramble]

I agree

[dry pumice]

Prime
Proto

[ocean spindle]

poto is ass in some countries that speak spanish

[dry pumice]

It got to be one of those two, unless devs are too high IQ for us and found an even better word.

[ocean spindle]

potato

[dry pumice]

Prime = superior.
Proto = first.

So the question remains: is she P because she's better, or is she P because she was the first, and being better is just a coincidence?

[turbid horizon]

PringleMother

[ocean spindle]

proletarianMother

[turbid horizon]

pouncer mother

[narrow niche]

Pain mother

[ocean spindle]

pinoy mother

[bold ginkgo]

President Mother

[ashen frigate]

You are all wrong. It is the Polyamorous Mother

[olive robin]

The p clearly stands for "pretty big"

[topaz anvil]

Prime can also mean first

[olive robin]

Minos prime from ultra kill

What is the lore linking prime mom to minos prime

[topaz anvil]

It's impossible (I can't do it)

[turbid horizon]

man now I want to give pmom minos prime voicelines

[olive robin]

Judgement has to go on the baby spawning

That or "thy end is now"

[finite plover]

special revolver has the best weapon economy ingame? giving 3 mags per refill?

[ashen frigate]

It is, on paper, the most ammo efficient. However, in a vast majority of the Expeditions, you realistically should not run out of ammo. There is plenty to be found, as long as you look for it.

[lunar rain]

Laughs in r7c3

[ashen frigate]

There are plenty there as well :D

[finite plover]

solo with sentry...best way to do alarms is to keep doors open so sentry can kill some so you arent getting rushed?

[ashen frigate]

Funneling is probably the best way to go

you definitely do not want them to come at you from different angles, a whole bunch at a time

[finite plover]

if i close a door and they break it, sentry isnt doing much vs 12+

[ocean spindle]

if u close the door with the sentry and they break it down ur gonna have to deal with the entire wave

at once

funnel its probs yeah the way to go

leavin 2 3 doors closed, one opened, and puttin ur sentry there

depends on the tile

[finite plover]

im doing R1A1 all solo, no bots. so i wonder whats best loadout. currently rolling with pistol and revolver

[ocean spindle]

i personally would go for somethin more 'HOLYSHITTHEYARESOCLOSE' like a combat shottie an some auto but idk if u can aim and dont feel overwhelmed immediately u should b fine

i am not one to say strats either

[sturdy glen]

I like hel shotty revo personally

[finite plover]

do i get booster progress if i fail a mission

[twilit sand]

yo is that normal that like every text in the head up system are too small to read ?

[civic wave]

you can look at whatever the speedruns use for a general idea, although you do have flexibility in the loadout

don't take shit guns, take burst sentry, and then you can figure the rest out

[fierce walrus]

I do not think so, you might wanna check your HUD settings i think it has the option to scale it up

[twilit sand]

i look this up befor asking the only thing scaling up is the compass

i have fail the computer scan caus cant reed the instruction

[fierce walrus]

There are a bunch of options in the HUD

there is compass

chat

inventory

and a bunch of others

[fierce walrus]

these are a bit small thats true, but you dont really need to read the instruction you just go and scan

[twilit sand]

well i dident understand how it work xD

i type scan key_blue -t and zone 71 and got a error

in the training section

[sterile citrus]

Its Ping Key_Blue_47 Zone_01

[dry pumice]

There is no SCAN command

You can LIST to see if it exists or "scan" a specific zone.
You can QUERY to get additional information about the item of interest.
And then you can PING.

[sterile citrus]

^

[civic wave]

(the key always spawns in the same place)

[twilit sand]

yeah i found it

[twilit sand]

ok thx

[torpid token]

Recently I tried to use cluster mines to directly kill tanks. If it is a smaller security doors such as R4C3, my success rate is almost 100%. But once it becomes a larger door, the success rate directly becomes 0. How to set mines on larger security doors(I try to keep it running as much as possible)

[scarlet bane]

Does anyone know the best tool setups for rundown 7 C1?

[fierce walrus]

Biotracker, 2 burst sentries and mine deployer should do the trick

[scarlet bane]

Thanks man

[lusty bramble]

Does anyone know the best tool setup for rundown 5 e1?

Wow what a helpful discord

I'll be taking myself somewhere else

How do I lfg?

Lfg r5e1 https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/637414448339877900

[lusty bramble]

I'm In voice I can play what is the code?

[lusty bramble]

You gotta go for the tride and true cfoam bio burst burst

[fierce walrus]

wtf am i looking at

[timid grove]

a man with no patience

[dry pumice]

Beep being bored, if I were to assume.

[ocean spindle]

a mental breakdown

[olive robin]

4 auto sentries

[timid grove]

you might need a gun

[fierce walrus]

Discord user casually experiences spontanous personality split

[digital mural]

schizophrenia

the most sane GTFO player

[lusty bramble]

Shut up kaiser

[visual iris]

🤡

[lusty bramble]

👁️🗡️👁️

[warm spindle]

will a -7% melee damage booster prevent a one shot kill with knife

[dry pumice]

"I always come back"

[lusty bramble]

You could no longer one shot bigs, yes

[dry pumice]

Running calculations

[lusty bramble]

Computer

[warm spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/the-hang-over-zach-galifianakis-allen-computing-gif-7551824

[hardy grotto]

Terminal

[civic wave]

We need a fucking terminal!

[lusty bramble]

I'll do it.

[dry pumice]

It won't.

[warm spindle]

thank you computer

[lusty bramble]

Good work artek

[dry pumice]

While at it: apparently you'll need -20% to lose the oneshot.

[warm spindle]

30% melee resist here i come

[cold quarry]

if it's an apex door, I set them on the fifth latch up from the ground.

works almost every time

[civic wave]

I've never mined directly on a sector to kill a tank, actually

[gritty wedge]

apex legends

[toxic ocean]

how the difficulty work between rundown,like R1A1 is easy than R7A1 or not?

[ocean spindle]

there isnt really any way to tell

rundown 1 is the easiest rundown as a whole and the simplest one

but r7a1 is the easiest level, tho probs the rundown with the most steep difficulty

from extremely easy to oh god what the fuck levels of hard

[toxic ocean]

i am beginner ,should i insist on plpaying levels and rundown in order?

asking because i can't find anyone forR1A1

[ocean spindle]

i think its the best choice yeah
a1 might be a lil bit more of a hassle, but as a whole r1 its just so much easier than the others

also um if ur using ingame matchmaking

id suggest not

and id recommend way more using the LFG channels in this server

they r much better to find people and faster, plus we do get newies a lot

[dry pumice]

The level tiers themselves act like difficulty settings.
A = Easy
B = Normal
C = Advanced
D = Hard
E = Very hard

Unfortunately there's no way to tell the difficulty difference between rundowns themselves, as each one of them followed a different design style.
But GENERALLY - R1 and R6 are considered to be the easiest.
R2 and R3 are something like medium.
R4 and R7 are on a higher spectrum, more so R4.
And R5 is just sadistic.

R7A1 though is considered like THE Easiest level in the game.

[narrow niche]

truly two checkpoints needed]

[lusty bramble]

VERY HARD

[native sun]

Also see the wiki pages for any of the boss enemies, it is down in the Trivia section :D

[lusty bramble]

I deleted the trivia section, shouldn't be there anymore.

Thanks for the heads up!

[whole grove]

You could play the levels alphabetically but of course some A levels are harder (with side objectives) than others. If people had to vote on which levels to do in order, it would never reach a consensus. If I were to look back and do it all over again from scratch it would be R1, R3, R2, R7, R4, R5, R6. I'll probably make a list someday of the order I would do each expedition. Some hurdles you will run into may be R1C1/C2/D1; R2C2/D1/D2/E1; R3B2/C1/D1; R7B/C/D/E; R4 (you'll probably get the most in game experience on this because of plenty of side objectives); R5 (requires the skill/coordination you (should of) learned from R1 to R4; R6 (way easy at first but difficult later but more exciting imo)

[torpid token]

ty

[cold quarry]

4 each side, always works for me

[whole grove]

8th mine for reassurance? Is 7 not enough?

[cold quarry]

yeah basically

i dunno, 7 has failed me sometimes

maybe if one just clips wrong or something

[whole grove]

Ah well, low enough to be killed easily but the 8th mine for insurance

[rose stirrup]

im trying to go for prisoner efficiency but confused how to approach the objectives. if i do secondary and overload, do i have to complete them before completing main? or can i complete them one at a time, like main -> secondary -> overload

[visual iris]

any order the mission allows will do it

[ocean spindle]

yeah pretty much

[native sun]

Depends on the level mostly. Best thing to do is list/query bulkhead keys to find out if e.g. the secondary contains a bulkhead key (in which case you can do secondary first)

[rose stirrup]

so it doesnt matter if main is completed first or last?

[native sun]

Nope, as long as you don't extract before completing the other ones

But often the rest of Main won't contain a Bulkhead Key, so if you want to do Secondary as well (assuming Secondary has a Bulkhead Key) you'd have to do Secondary first

[rose stirrup]

i see now. thnak you very much!

[whole grove]

iirc, R5A3 you have to do overload first otherwise you'll be unable to access it later

[clear patrol]

so uhm, question, what is the rewards for doing secondary/overload/prisoner efficiency?

[ocean spindle]

brag rights

and more fun in a level lol

[clear patrol]

fair

so no extra apparel?

[soft crater]

Secondary/overload no longer have rewards

only Main completions will give you apparel now

PE has never had any apparel rewards

only level progression deeper into a rundown back in OG

[random flume]

anyone have any idea what the red message on top of the rundown screen is for? that something important or just a design thingy?

the message on my screen is "CLCTR multithread processor activated"

[fierce walrus]

just flavor text

[random flume]

okay good to know dont know what it means though im not computer language smert XD

[ashen frigate]

Could be a reference to the Collectors (based on the letters used) but definitely not sure

[ocean spindle]

what's some funky shooting easy levels
i been dropping to r2b1 just to go pew pew but idk i can't think of any others, i don't wanna drop in like r7d2 just to die

[fierce walrus]

R2C2 maybe?

[dry pumice]

R6C3 should be doable as long as you're doing main only... I think.

Just take a mine deployer yourself and mine every door you come across

[ocean spindle]

feel like, both r kina hard
i mean r2c2 not to much but its gonna take me a few tries

eh

maybs i run r6c3 i never done it before

i just wanna go pew pew

[dry pumice]

Any level is pew pew if you go loud on every toom

[civic wave]

any reactor level

[dry pumice]

R6C3 just encourages it more

[civic wave]

r3a3, r4d1, whatever

[dry pumice]

With bots? Nah

[ocean spindle]

r3a3 was hell for me i prefer, never lookin at it again

goddam bots

i love u bishi but holy shit took me so much

[candid charm]

Still attempting a bot only R3A3
Always failing at wave 4 lmao

[dry pumice]

Nothing else comes to mind really... Wait, actually... There was this one level, the precursor to R6C3

[civic wave]

I did a bot only r3a3 a damn while ago, not too hard when you know what you're doing

[dry pumice]

It was... something B3, i think?

[civic wave]

r5b4

[dry pumice]

A little tight on ammo and will punish you badly for taking too much time though.

I remember trying it with bots and it just didn't work out.

[candid charm]

Thing is I know exactly what to do and how but my skill issues prevent me from fully executing it.
Trial and error I guess.

[ocean spindle]

yeah

its a hard level to go on like blind and havin to create a strat and

[civic wave]

probably either an issue with shooting well, or holding at a bad position

[ocean spindle]

then havin it fail lol

[candid charm]

I sometimes get thrown off cause once you have to input the code after wave 4 they keep spawning
And at that point my 3 sentries are already pretty low so I end up having to shoot
And, well, both me and the bots suck at doing that

[ocean spindle]

i used to hold on the catwalk above on the left, that way i got a funnel and i didnt had to run so much so i wasted less time, but id have to clear hybrids asap otherwise they would down me at the speed of light

[candid charm]

Yep the hybrids

[ocean spindle]

i usually same as r1c1 only use one two sentries the first few waves

and then i use three by wave 4 or 5

[civic wave]

I think I did my run with assault rifle, veruta, and then bots had standard loadouts apart from Bishop because its funny

2 burst sentries, 1 sniper, and biotracker

[ocean spindle]

oh no way in hell i wouldve done it veruta, so many bigs wouldve melted me

i went carbine hel gun i think

i wouldve gone burst cannon nowadays probs but

mh

or hel rifle

[civic wave]

You can get away with anything on that level

[candid charm]

I switch around my own loadout pretty regularly but for the bots, Dauda and Bishop have a burst rifle/veruta
Hackett has a carbine and arbalist
2 burst
1 sniper
1 biotracker
So like
I should be fine
But again, it just sucks whenever you fuck up

[ocean spindle]

its really just, a matter of how fuckin fast u can get to terminals to have enough time to loot

the 4th code is the worst, along with the fifth one

[dry pumice]

(spoiler: not enough)

[ocean spindle]

cause they dont cut u anything, if u were with a team its more than enough time to like one person loots other terminals

but then ur alone

and u have to do everyfuckinthing urself lol

[dry pumice]

Literally getting +1 more guy immediately turns reactor levels from kinda bullshit to proper

[ocean spindle]

and its a pain

at that point it wasnt even a i want a team thing, it was an honor thing, i wanted to fuckin do it with bots

[dry pumice]

His job is to just input the codes. Nothing else.

[candid charm]

yeah the verify times seem forgiving but when you have to do both the looting and code input it's definitely a noticeable increase in difficulty

[ocean spindle]

at least r1c1 u can like take the resources with u and sort em out, in here u just kinda have to pray everythings in ur way

at least the tool refill

[civic wave]

I still feel like it's not as bad as you're making it out to be

[dry pumice]

I mean... Did you repeat waves?

[civic wave]

why would I have repeated waves

[candid charm]

I feel like my run's over if I repeat a wave
It's just too many resources spent

[civic wave]

there's enough time to loot and find all the resources you need, half of the resources you'll find when going to term or still have plenty of time to ping them

[ocean spindle]

maybs its our, skill issue

i mean i was tryin this level when i had, 150 hours or somethin

[candid charm]

me with 150 hours rn lmao

[ocean spindle]

... there u go :3

[dry pumice]

I guess if you know the exact layout of the map. My one solo attempt went horribly. Death by no ammo (fucking bots wouldn't open the stupid lockers)

Where are the goddamn lockmelters when you truly need them

[candid charm]

I indeed have it memorized by this point
Terminal locations and all
But yeah at this point there's not much else to say, I'll just keep running it until I win

[ocean spindle]

funnily on my last attempts i kinda tried to counter the spawns, and i tried holdin like in the first room of the second terminal zone
and it was weird

but also better but worse

idk if i would recommend it but u can try

[candid charm]

would be funny

[wispy monolith]

hey team i’m kinda new and was wondering if there is any useful GUI mods I should download?

[candid charm]

what kind specifically
like the payday infohud type stuff?
I don't think so

[pulsar herald]

@wispy monolith just play vanilla.
It is completely unnecessary to play with mods for the vanilla rundowns

[dry pumice]

I don't think anyone ever mentions UI mods. Its kinda unecessery, unless you just REALLY don't like game's default UI.

It has its' shortcoming, but gets the job done for the most part.

cough (flashlight indicator) cough

[wispy monolith]

ok tight good to know

just wasn’t sure if there was anything that was curial in the gtfo community

thanks boys

[dry pumice]

Curial?

[wispy monolith]

crucial*

[dry pumice]

Anyway, for the future:

.t modding

[uneven gulch]

While we do allow the use of some QoL and visual mods, GTFO doesn't officially support modding. However, we do recognize that a GTFO modding community exists and if you are interested in them, you are welcome to check out the modding communities found in #hc-modded (If you have any more questions, please read rule #12 in the rules channel for more information.)

[dry pumice]

Those guys know way more about this sort of stuff than anyone here.

[wispy monolith]

oh awesome thanks a ton

[cinder moss]

what are good main weapons to pair with the machine guns?

[dry pumice]

Anything, really

Maybe something for long-ish range? To counter shooters, in particular? Like a DMR.

[spice hamlet]

can hardly go wrong with any of the main weapons when using a machinegun ye

[soft crater]

Majority of the guns are in a Usable state. Aside from being lower tier

[spice hamlet]

carbine/bull-up/autopistol/sawed off for quick ttk when reloading, burst rifle/dmr/rifle/double tap for weakening/killing shooters

can even go with a pistol if you want ammo efficiency for some reason

[soft crater]

Auto pistol fast ttk?

[spice hamlet]

sure does with 1500 rpm

[soft crater]

machine pistol

[spice hamlet]

ye machinepistol myb

[soft crater]

Auto pistol is better if there are multiple enemies

But doesn't change it essentially needs double the shots to kill compared to machine pistol

(Not taking into account precision damages)

[spice hamlet]

you'll hardly ever find 2 head lined up long enough to shoot half your auto mag

[soft crater]

Even then you're staggering regardless of headshot and hitting 2 enemies

[spice hamlet]

ye

[soft crater]

For reference.
AP does 1.01 dmg per shot. (This has a 5x stagger multi)
MP does 1.9 dmg per shot

Mp is also 1500 rpm vs AP's 1000~ rpm

[spice hamlet]

I already said it was a typo

[cinder moss]

Nice, thanks for the suggestions, folks. Probably pick up something with some nice ttk since the guys I play with mostly run the ranged weaponry

[soft crater]

Reference.

Some don't care for numbers. Some do

[spice hamlet]

if they care for number so much they'd be looking at the wiki

[soft crater]

Not everyone looks at it

Regardless you aren't wrong

I personally don't use MP because of its Effective Ranges

[spice hamlet]

it is shit I agree

but it's one of the more niche main weapon I'd say

you're using it to quickly dispatch stragglers that managed to close in dangerously on your team or yourself

it has nearly enough damage to dispatch a giant

[sturdy glen]

Tried that shit last night

[soft crater]

Some shots to the head should be enough from the front

[sturdy glen]

Felt like I was shooting just for the sake of shooting

[spice hamlet]

if you're targeting enemies at 10m then yes

[soft crater]

I'd still rather take SMG just because of Range/better precision

One of the few weapons with a 0.91x prec

[ocean spindle]

i feel like machinep its not the best auto but id prefer it over, pdw and assault rifle
its just insane on close quarters levels

[spice hamlet]

I don't particularly like the machine pistol either, but it has some very niche use case

[soft crater]

AR is overshadowed by other autos getting buffed in the recent patches

Not to mention. HSMG is a Borderline better AR

[spice hamlet]

I'd say machine is pretty good if you're host & doing foggy alarm with no repellers

[soft crater]

I'd still prefer PDW just for how accurate it's hipfire is

Not to mention dmg per bullet within those ranges

[spice hamlet]

hipfiring still feel weird to me

years of fps games with ADS

[soft crater]

I will say. The only gun I hate hipfire. Is double tap

DTR is the only gun in this entire game I cannot for the life of me use hipfiring

[ocean spindle]

:[

[soft crater]

When I mentioned this to Dak. He ended buffing its hipfire accuracy in occlusion

It actually feels like an enjoyable weapon that I don't need to try hard ADS all the time

[civic wave]

and now I'm wondering

it never occurred to me that you would hipfire double tap

I have no idea how that gun is hipfire

[spice hamlet]

rifle/precision rifle category

hipfire anyway

[ocean spindle]

people who hipfire precision weapons scare me

[spice hamlet]

[soft crater]

Vanilla game. You would only want to hipfire it within shotgun ranges

[soft crater]

I can effectively hipfire every other gun.

[spice hamlet]

you're hipfiring a koning ?

[soft crater]

DTR beyond shotgun ranges is like trying to RNG the second shot

[ocean spindle]

u hipfirin precision rifle? q-q

[soft crater]

You can accurately hipfire it 30-40m still. Maybe longer

[soft crater]

Yes. Even PR

[ocean spindle]

u scare me

get awy from me pls qwq

im gonna exorcise u

[soft crater]

Slendi you're talking to someone who macro rapid fires Revolver ads/hipfire

[spice hamlet]

all headshot ?

[soft crater]

Not to mention. Revolver hipfire accuracy is like a deagle in cs.

[soft crater]

I'd typically be macroing it into giants

[spice hamlet]

holup

revolver has no innate rpm limit ?

[soft crater]

But even then the recoil is worst than burst cannon

[spice hamlet]

so you can macro all 6 shot in 0.1s ?

[soft crater]

Probably not exactly 0.1s

But you'll just hear a revolver being rapid fired within a second

Probably 0.6 seconds

[spice hamlet]

idk how you can even land all shots

[soft crater]

Recoil control

[robust field]

revo can fire pretty fast, yeah

not as fast as something like choke mod but you can still mag dump in half a second easily

[spice hamlet]

that's some nutty recoil control you got there

ADS revolver goes all over the place

[soft crater]

Controlled rapid fire for revolver is perfectly manageable though.

I just go balls to the wall macro speed with it.

[robust field]

it's really not that bad, especially when firing manually

[spice hamlet]

better than high cal for sure

[robust field]

better than using a macro to fire off a mag of choke mod in 0.2 seconds too

[soft crater]

High cal is all visual imo

[robust field]

this sends your aim to the ceiling if you're slightly off with the recoil control

[soft crater]

Choke mod is great

But I don't ever find the need to use it personally

[robust field]

tbh I really like choke mod, even if there are better options

it's just a solid gun to me

[soft crater]

Iirc some difficult levels are done with chokemod

Duo

[spice hamlet]

it's all about that ttk

[civic wave]

There's nothing that chokemod does better than any other gun but it's a solid all arounder pretty much

Which duos are these

[soft crater]

It's levels when you'd need to manage reloads or just have fast reloads. Especially as a duo

[civic wave]

I know og r4 was done duo with only revolver and choke mod as apecials

[soft crater]

Ye

[robust field]

but then burst cannon became a thing

[soft crater]

Burst cannon. As it is currently. Most people seem to just not bother with it

It got 22-23? Damage now?

But that recoil

Really affects the gunplay skill needed to range with it

[civic wave]

Not that bad once you practice it

[soft crater]

It really isn't

But it isn't the hardly any recoil burst cannon of the past

[civic wave]

Yeah most people don't use it but a significant portion of the higher skill players will use it

And there's a reason for that

[soft crater]

Yep

[civic wave]

the main thing against burst cannon is it skill gaps most people, and even I suck with burst drags against small enemies a lot of the time

still an amazing gun though

[soft crater]

The hardest thing is really just trying to kill 3+ strikers with 1 burst

But some people are fine with killing at least 2

I think Dak got 4 kills once

[civic wave]

in the right circumstance it isn't hard to get 4 kills

[soft crater]

Seeing 4 orange hitmarkers pop off was funny with his reaction

[civic wave]

esp as host, as client it's a lot weirder

[soft crater]

Ye

[olive robin]

Bots use burst cannon really well

What pairs well with special revolver though

[civic wave]

hel revolver or sawed off probably

[hollow steppe]

Пацаны, кто в гтфо? нам 1 нужен чел, пишите.

[olive robin]

The double revolver build is like the double pistol build tbh

[soft crater]

Pistol / HCP is like a Rifle/slug choke mod with less range

double revolver is harder to use imo

I wouldn't compare the 2 though.

[spice hamlet]

less range more ammo

[soft crater]

in comparison to double revo, however, both have really good efficiency

pistol is hit or miss if you get that efficiency but in my eyes. it's a

like a HAR

[lusty bramble]

It's just called a choke mod

There are no slugs

[past star]

Choke me*

[opal elk]

question, can i still play with people, even if i don't have the expedition unlocked that they wish to play?

[past star]

Yes

[dry pumice]

Yes. Host can pick whichever level is available to him and clients (people who join) can play it with him and the completion will even count for them.

[opal elk]

Oh cool, thank you for the quick answer

[orchid bloom]

How good is the bat? I never see people use or talk about it.

[ocean spindle]

as a certified bat enjoyer

its cool :]

its kinda just a faster dmg with less dmg, which dependin on how u play might, hate it or u might like it but enough enough KMSDKM

[minor fractal]

Bat is not hammer.

[ocean spindle]

its the leaast popular melee but, i think its fun, obv nothings as good as hammer but, second

[minor fractal]

It also a similar or higher skill req compared to knife or spear while not being hammer, so it's just unpopular.

[ocean spindle]

i dont think its higher skill ceiling than knife by a landslide

if u miss, u stagger

the trajectory its way better than the knife

and, u can, do bigs with it better lol

[visual iris]

hammer is the only good melee rest sucks

[ocean spindle]

:[

[next socket]

In R5E1 KDS Deep, is a snatcher supposed to spawn during the final surge IV alarm?

[ocean spindle]

think ive heard something of that happenin

[eternal bridge]

I think that’s added? Not sure

[ocean spindle]

yeah

[next socket]

It happened to us

And completely destroyed our foam strat LOL

[ocean spindle]

think it replaced an enemy

[sturdy glen]

it spawns when you approach the door

so ye

[next socket]

ah

[eternal bridge]

I think it replaced the Tank

[sturdy glen]

thats a separate instance

[ocean spindle]

ohhh

[eternal bridge]

My R5E1, we left a tank alive earlier, so during our final alarm, the wave woke the tank up

Didn’t make it worse tho… that Tank got annihilated instantly

[whole grove]

A snatcher spawns when you open z542 and when you touch the last alarm door and bring up the text on your screen

[eternal bridge]

There’s a funny code in for that snatcher part

The snatcher spawns when you LOOK at the alarm door

Someone looked into the code I think from what someone told me

It’s a one time thing tho

Idk tho

[whole grove]

I didn't know of the change and found out when playing again. I wanted to figure out if it was based off a timer or some other reason but rayalot mentioned it to me some few weeks ago

Are changes suppose to be in the patch-notes or somewhere else?

[ocean spindle]

u discover em

[keen wadi]

Anyone tryna play

How can I join someone been tryna do auto match is there a rundown I should test my luck in

[fierce walrus]

ingame matchmaking doesnt really work

everyone uses this discord

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[keen wadi]

Okiee

[queen current]

Brand new to the game although I've done some research and know the basics. Which rundown should I go for first? Or what in general should I do first? I've already done the tutorial, but I'm having a bit of choice paralysis here

I think until recently the only rundown you could do was the newest but I guess that has changed now?