#gtfo-related-questions

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craggy pier
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So running away in a straight like is quite literally the worst thing you can do

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Sleepers will hit you because their infinite range

hardy grotto
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Yes

native sun
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Yes. You'll dodge like 1/10 attacks by getting out of range within the window. But you'll get hit by the other 9/10. Zig zagging away probably gets you hit by like 4 or 5 out of 10. Much better.

craggy pier
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What about sprinting through them

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Instead of away, into the crowd and past

hardy grotto
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soft collision makes that not so ideal

native sun
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It's pretty good, maybe like 1/10 hit on the run through. But it is only good if the other side of them is a nice place to be.

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And yes, if they're too grouped the soft collision will make it much worse.

hardy grotto
native sun
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^ Walk away in a straight line while shooting back = pretty good

hardy grotto
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you just have to make sure you stagger every single one that’s about to tongue

craggy pier
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Yeah im asking because sometimes I don't have any boolets

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And uh

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Yeah

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I have to learn that thing where you slide reload and jump so you keep moving in a speedy way while reloading

hardy grotto
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it’s not entirely necessary

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Depending on where I am if I need to reload I will walk in a circle as I reload

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or I back away so I can reload

native sun
hardy grotto
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how have the attempts been elbowguard

craggy pier
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Done nothing today

hardy grotto
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I see

craggy pier
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Prolly wont for a while

hardy grotto
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How much more did you try yesterday

craggy pier
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2 more after the 4 wave

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Died at wave 1 then wave 3

civic wave
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I'm pretty tempted to give it a shot myself even though I know I don't have the time right now and it wouldn't be the most fun

torpid token
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Does this apply to all melee attacks except tanks?What I mean is distance

native sun
tropic vine
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noted

orchid bloom
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What's the best way of avoiding/dodging ranged attacks?

hidden ridge
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red zone bad, green zone good

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host bias makes it easier as host

tardy ingot
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projectiles have so many ways

Can wiggle your camera, sway step (in 1 direction then back), sharp orb walk, crouch etc

hidden ridge
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The NEO thing where you look at the projectile while strafing?

tardy ingot
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Instead of orb walking the shooter its the projectile

hidden ridge
tardy ingot
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Walking in a circle around smth

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orb
Walking

vale lynx
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How long are most of the sessions? I went into a session with bots and was in there for an hour with no signs of ending before I died, Idk if all of the sessions are usually pretty long or if I'm just new.

latent obsidian
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Obviously lower depth missions are likely to be longer

turbid horizon
tardy ingot
turbid horizon
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well ok that’s R1

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laughs in Teratoma

tardy ingot
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tbh the time levels can be done in heavily varies on experience and intent

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D tiers can range from casual 15 min (for some) to 3 hours (r5d1 sec for scared newbies)

vale lynx
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wats r5d1

latent obsidian
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Its the longest level ever

vale lynx
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yikes

dry pumice
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The level no one ever replays once beaten

olive robin
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What's wrong with it

ocean spindle
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its very very long

tepid sand
ocean spindle
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and extreme is

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annoyin

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main is not as bad in annoyance but it is, veeery long

tepid sand
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Esepcially when you have ass teammates

ocean spindle
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haha butt team

surreal lake
vale lynx
surreal lake
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Yup

vale lynx
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I would just wait for them to pull the tentacles back then smack them over the head. The first mission I played, I was very cautious and never stop crouching, but the second time I did the same level, I realized the sleepers would never fully aggro before I killed them, and when I came across a giant or two in the same room, I would just close the door, lay down a sentry, and open the door guns blazing lol. Idk if that's the right way to play but I worked for me so I'm not complaining.

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I only died because we walked into a room and bishop fired a shotgun shot into the middle of the room for no reason

surreal lake
# vale lynx I would just wait for them to pull the tentacles back then smack them over the h...

Scouts have I think 4 ways of taking them down?
1: Loud (Shooting it, recommend a high dmg weapon because if it doesn't die in 1 shot it'll go invuln)
2: C foam + Melee (C foam will freeze it, allowing you to hit it as much as you want)
3: Quiet/Melee (Safest option, hammer/spear is 1 tap to the head, whereas bat/knife require a occiput hit (back of the head))
4: Snipe it (Unreliable, but you can oddly silently kill a scout if you shoot far enough outside the scout room).

vale lynx
surreal lake
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Yup

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It also can reinforce doors.

civic wave
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Yeah, when they're frozen they won't be able to alert (but if they've been damaged, they will alert after they unfreeze)

vale lynx
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so doors arent invicible? enemies can go through them?

civic wave
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Otherwise you can walk around them, shove them, shoot over their head, whatever, and they'll be none the wiser

surreal lake
civic wave
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Gun shots don't damage doors

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Mine explosions and melee hits do

surreal lake
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Really? Huh, could've sworn they did but I guess not.

vale lynx
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is there any reason to break a door yourself?

civic wave
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In some circumstances its faster than waiting for a door to open

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But for most gameplay, nah

surreal lake
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Only time I've had to is when I locked myself in with cfoam lmao

lusty bramble
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Doors are a resource... do not break...

dry pumice
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Sometimes it's faster if the door has a digital lock on it and something big is coming for you - but otherwise just spend extra 10 seconds to open it properly.

civic wave
lusty bramble
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I have that tattood on my ass

surreal lake
vale lynx
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and how do I break locks on containers? I see the bots do it but Idk what they're doing, is it an item or sumthn?

lusty bramble
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Only bots are able to break locks

civic wave
lusty bramble
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It's a weird feature

civic wave
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Shoot the lock or hit the lock

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Or use a mine to blow up the lock

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Or a lock melter

lusty bramble
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Oh lea you react to that but not the ass comment

sturdy glen
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Have an enemy hit it off

civic wave
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Or reset the lobby until the lock disappears, up to you

surreal lake
latent obsidian
civic mist
lusty bramble
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I bet you'd like a picture of my ass

vale lynx
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so either break the lock with your infinite melee weapon or spend an item slot to break the lock??

civic mist
latent obsidian
vale lynx
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ah

lusty bramble
surreal lake
latent obsidian
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also makes noise if you lose the minigame, and attracts the ire of your teammates

civic wave
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Hell yea gtfo lfg is turning into a dating site again

lusty bramble
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I don't date women

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Don't be ridiculous

civic mist
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there goes my chance

civic wave
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Do you date NBs

lusty bramble
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Lea is not a woman

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She is a girl gamer

vale lynx
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thnks for da info, gonna do r5d1 bc I wanna see how bad it is

latent obsidian
civic wave
vale lynx
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can't waitPepeRain

vale lynx
dry pumice
civic wave
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Ah, well it might be problematic joining someone else's lobby because of the difficulty of the mission and enemies that you probably haven't seen yet

dry pumice
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Yeaaaah, people won't be happy with a new player scuffing their 90 minutes run of suffering.

vale lynx
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only 90 minutes?

dry pumice
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For an average squad that kinda knows what to do. Can take longer.

vale lynx
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lightwork l_bluesunglasses

ember mulch
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90 minues is what i whould call a normal run on a map

dry pumice
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The level is not even like HARD hard, it's just gruelling.

craggy pier
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r5d1 is a fun level especially if you do secondary

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wish u the best

ember mulch
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Well R5D1 is long 😅

dry pumice
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Most wipes happen just through sheer power of exhaustion combined with the game slowly losing stability over time.

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As it turned when one of our guys dropped on minute 80 - lobby dies after some time and no one can join or rejoin it after that. We couldn't even add the bot because host literally loses access to relevant buttons.. We had to finish the mission as 3. It was harrowing.

surreal lake
wraith drum
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why can't we get to keep our active boosters for the whole run if we momentarily get disconnected during our expedition? shouldn't it be active the whole run? 😭

dry pumice
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You will keep it if you quit the mission in first 30 seconds

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Otherwise... Bad luck, it is what it is.

wraith drum
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no I mean, if you accidentally get disconnected* during your run, so you have to reconnect to the room

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But I don't have my active booster anymore deadGe

dry pumice
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Yeah, because you basically join from scratch

alpine fox
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hey guys, what is the meta special weapons at the moment?

dry pumice
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Machine guns, hel rifle, uhhhh...

civic wave
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Burst cannon/hel gun/high cal probably

dry pumice
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Combat shotgun! I keep forgetting the stupid thing exists.

civic wave
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But you can get away with anything so it doesn't matter that mucj

dry pumice
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Yeah, combat shotgun and skillful burst cannon are top tiers right now.

civic wave
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Yeah combat shotgun good too, some maps people go crazy for precision rifle too

alpine fox
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so hel rifle/combat shotgun?

dry pumice
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Burst Cannon. Burst Cannon is stupid strong if you can use it skillfully.

soft crater
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"Engravings give you no tactical advantage whatsoever"

alpine fox
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so it all comes to just using favourites?

turbid horizon
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yeah basically

dry pumice
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When did we said that.

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Burst. Cannon.

turbid horizon
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No gun is super bad at this point

dry pumice
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Learn it. Rip games apart.

turbid horizon
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In certain situations, you definitely wouldn’t want to take certain weapons

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Don’t take Precision Rifle into chargers, but honestly on almost any A-C tier level you can always take any gun if you’re comfortable with it

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Find what you like, get good with it, and go from there

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I have friends who stick with Carbine/Hel Rifle every game, and friends who change their guns every mission

alpine fox
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ok so burst cannon is go to for most situations, what about main weapon's then?

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or maybe you guys have like favourite loadouts?

turbid horizon
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Note: burst cannon has super hefty recoil right now

alpine fox
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yeah

civic wave
turbid horizon
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My favorite loadout is either Hel Shotgun/Veruta MG, and SMG or Ar/Scattergun

arctic marten
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friends who pick hel rifle should not be friends

alpine fox
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Scatter gun?!

turbid horizon
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Basically the mother of all shotguns

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Fun weapon

civic wave
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Hm idk if I can continue this conversation, its reminding me too much of destiny 2 weapon discussions

arctic marten
sturdy glen
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like where

arctic marten
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english, please

sturdy glen
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do you just mean taking hel rifle constantly

arctic marten
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something much worse

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hel shotgun 🤮

turbid horizon
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XD

dry pumice
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Dirty non-believer

sturdy glen
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the second best main 😄

arctic marten
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artek how could you

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i thought i raised you better

dry pumice
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You haven't seen what I've seen

soft crater
turbid horizon
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I like automatic mains as much as the next guy, but I need my shotgun/MG fix and sawed off ain’t gonna cut it

soft crater
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Skrill issue Dak

turbid horizon
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Mmm

dry pumice
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Is Skrillex still alive..

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Haven't heard of him in a long while.

soft crater
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Man's is 35

arctic marten
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this is not a gtfo related question

dry pumice
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Does he still rolls the cringe sidecut

alpine fox
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yall know each other?

turbid horizon
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Vaguely

soft crater
turbid horizon
soft crater
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Let's just say. Outside of server. Dakstar Here becomes. "Unhinged"

alpine fox
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hmmm

soft crater
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Unless that initial message was about skrillex- Google exists.

alpine fox
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Like Adam Sandler unhinged or Saddam Hussein Unhinged?

soft crater
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Sussy

turbid horizon
arctic marten
soft crater
alpine fox
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XDD

arctic marten
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its a metaphor

soft crater
turbid horizon
soft crater
turbid horizon
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what

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bruhv

alpine fox
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Pov: what GTFO does to healthy men

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anyway

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Is LTC5 a acceptable weapon?

jagged shore
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use short name pls

turbid horizon
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You’re gonna need to drop an actual generic name

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like pistol

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Or burst rifle

arctic marten
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or carbine

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the big mag just isnt worth the low damage

alpine fox
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ive no idea how that shi is called

arctic marten
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its smg

turbid horizon
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Just read the other line

jagged shore
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the name just below the long name dude

turbid horizon
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Yeah

alpine fox
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i kknow that as ltc5

jagged shore
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the long names are just way more confusing and every gun has a unique short name with the exception of the two machine guns

alpine fox
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bruuh

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im lost man im lost

arctic marten
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get found then

alpine fox
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gotta start edgemaxxing

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and lookmaxxing

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and if that doesnt help...

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ropemaxxing

arctic marten
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do you need a doctor

jagged shore
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what the fuck are you talking about

alpine fox
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i dunno, do you need one?

craggy pier
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Yes

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We can go together

jagged shore
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yeah i think i just had a stroke trying to read what you just said

alpine fox
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go together to start ropemaxxing?

craggy pier
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To start hopemaxxing

alpine fox
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might as well start gainmaxxing

arctic marten
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can you use real words

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or define the fake ones

alpine fox
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i dunno, how would you define "real"?

arctic marten
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words in the dictionary

alpine fox
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ok so

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wait im not sure if i will get banned for definition

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bro just google it

arctic marten
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probably not

soft crater
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Fr fr

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On god

alpine fox
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on wardenussy

soft crater
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No cap

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Anyways. PI_coffeesip

alpine fox
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ok so, why people are hating on scattergun?

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and why is it apparently "homo" to use hel rifle?

soft crater
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Hel rifle has some dedicated lovers

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Almost over hyping

arctic marten
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i am a dedicated hater

turbid horizon
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When… were either of those things said?

alpine fox
turbid horizon
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I mean yeah mountainman hates it

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And i get that at least, it’s pretty strong

arctic marten
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im mountainface now

alpine fox
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mountainman XDDDDD

turbid horizon
jagged shore
soft crater
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Chimpdavies

arctic marten
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ive had so many different eras

hardy grotto
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he’s an r4e1 lover in my heart

turbid horizon
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truly

soft crater
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ReturnOgChimpDaviesWhen

alpine fox
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bro how old are you?

jagged shore
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shoutouts to r2d1 statistics (or was that not you, am i insane)

alpine fox
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youre talking like ur 50

hardy grotto
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He’s 75

alpine fox
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"oh ive lived a great life with different eras"

hardy grotto
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oldest chimp I know

alpine fox
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fr?

turbid horizon
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actually 87 don’t cover for him

alpine fox
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fr fr?

turbid horizon
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Yeah we got some old players here

alpine fox
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im not sure what to think

jagged shore
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what is there to think based on this information

soft crater
turbid horizon
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Imagine thinking twice, I don’t even think once

arctic marten
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think nought at all, for it is laid out plainly

alpine fox
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i mean is here really a granpa?

soft crater
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I've never seen chimpdavies play. But that would mean they better than all these young newbies quitting the game probably

jagged shore
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that's a low bar

soft crater
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It is

arctic marten
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a bunch of whippersnappers you all are

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with your heroic hearts and such

turbid horizon
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ok boomer

arctic marten
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we didn't have that back in my day

midnight tulip
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can you lower the fog in R5C2 before doing the reactor in secondary?

turbid horizon
alpine fox
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XD

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"No need to thank me"

midnight tulip
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and you lower the fog in overload I presume?

craggy pier
midnight tulip
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ok thanks, so you do overload first and secondary after

soft crater
alpine fox
soft crater
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I also see Azert still mocking Kaiser

alpine fox
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what with that emoji xd

arctic marten
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that cup has to be empty at this point

soft crater
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The pfp and Name schlorp is a emote Kaiser used/spammed frequently before he was banned

arctic marten
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is there one where the cup gets refilled

soft crater
craggy pier
arctic marten
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L

alpine fox
soft crater
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Last I recall Kaiser got annoyed by people mocking and pretending to be him in server. Because people thought it was his Alts or whatever

arctic marten
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(it was his alt)

dry pumice
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(it was indeed)

soft crater
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But even then

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I'm not active enough here anymore to notice

alpine fox
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whats the best sentry btw?

jagged shore
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generally, burst

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rarely anything else

alpine fox
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oh

hardy grotto
dry pumice
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Sniper has utility into giants, but situation where you have only them exclusively are rare.

hardy grotto
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why are you trusting the words of a man who had 2 alts get banned lmao

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If you’re friends with him on steam solace you should check his name history

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one of them might seem out of place

soft crater
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Don't have em on steam

outer wing
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hey guys, question. just finished rundown one and i was wondering whether me and my friends should do rundown 2 or maybe a different one

soft crater
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Messages me on discord here and then to play gtfo

dry pumice
outer wing
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embarrassingly it took 70 hours of playtime to complete 1 💀

dry pumice
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That's normal.

outer wing
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although i replayed a few to catch my friends up

hardy grotto
dry pumice
wind wren
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If I were to reach spawn cap, and there's an error going on, does it queue up?

hardy grotto
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No

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Reactors will queue

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or smth like thunderdome queues I believe?

turbid horizon
soft crater
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But ultimately getting himself/alts banned were his own fault

arctic marten
alpine fox
soft crater
alpine fox
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wait what

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CHIMP DAVIES?!

soft crater
narrow niche
alpine fox
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and thats it?

soft crater
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Was either gerz or Eva iirc streaming when he got caught and banned to my recollection

jagged shore
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word on the vine is he had boosters that let him kill a giant with like 4 smg shots

alpine fox
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i thought he said the n-word a million times or smth

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xD

narrow niche
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Tf

jagged shore
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simplified to smg, but yes

hardy grotto
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pdw

soft crater
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Pdw

arctic marten
narrow niche
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What is this pdw is smg bullshit

soft crater
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PDW is technically a type of SMG so eh

jagged shore
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i meant to say "an" smg, because pdw is an smg, at least that's how i always hear people describe it generally

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i am aware it was pdw

narrow niche
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I mean

narrow niche
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Like an SMG is a kind of personal defense weapon

soft crater
narrow niche
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Yea but I mean

soft crater
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It's the ammunition

narrow niche
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Pdws can be pistols or

soft crater
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It doesn't use a traditional 9mm/45. Or other normal caliber

jagged shore
narrow niche
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Even carbines if you're insane

hardy grotto
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Pdw

narrow niche
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Real

hardy grotto
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can’t compare to the .9 king…

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.91 sorry

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Got my stats wrong

soft crater
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PDWs to my knowledge essentially use pistol caliber rifle bullets

arctic marten
narrow niche
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Yes

wind wren
foggy ridge
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anything can be a pdw

narrow niche
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Pdws can be rifle or intermediate

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Not often cause it's not a great idea to have a giant pdw but

soft crater
narrow niche
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Ak47u?

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Forgot the exact name

soft crater
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And we'll I haven't exclusively looked up much for rifle pdw as

narrow niche
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But it's a short carbined ak47 for pdw use

soft crater
olive robin
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ngl

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fiveseven pistol when

soft crater
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But iirc that's a result of Cod

olive robin
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give it a focus on accuracy

narrow niche
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I mean

olive robin
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like a hybrid hel revolver and shelling pistol

narrow niche
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Dresse needle gun when

olive robin
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no pierce but long range

soft crater
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AKS-74U

narrow niche
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Ah yes

arctic marten
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guys i think long gun will be in r8

hardy grotto
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Finally

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What the people wanted

soft crater
narrow niche
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It's a

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"shortened rifle"

soft crater
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Longer than smg. But not longer than 16 inches

narrow niche
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Oh yes ever seen the carbine garand prototype

olive robin
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when do we get the sawed off konig

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devs could stand to add a few sarcasm weapons

soft crater
narrow niche
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It's so bad

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Who thought it would be a good idea

turbid horizon
soft crater
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Isn't it just called M1 Carbine

narrow niche
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No the carbine is close to pistol caliber

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There's literally a shortened garand

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It's like the t1e5 or smth

olive robin
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official sawed off konig

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it was sawed off to allow musket style reloading

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drop the bullet in the barrel

narrow niche
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M1985 winchester when

soft crater
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With a folding stock

narrow niche
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Ugly ass mf

soft crater
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It looks like some Obrez version of a gun from Hunt showdown

narrow niche
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Lmao

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I mean compare it to the garand

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It's just

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Missing sections

soft crater
narrow niche
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Real

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No one during the design process said anything about the utility of a short garand compared to an SMG or smth?

narrow niche
olive robin
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There's a lot of like

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Normal and logical weapons

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Where are the illogical and strange weapons

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Ricochet bullet gun

narrow niche
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What if we took an unusable full auto rifle and MADE IT SHORTER

olive robin
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Just a machine pistol with a stock?

narrow niche
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Myes

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Oh yes full auto c96

soft crater
narrow niche
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Clearly usable without a stock, just recoil better

narrow niche
soft crater
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I didn't realize enlisted used AKT instead if SVT

narrow niche
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Oh no they have both

soft crater
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Or SKt

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Hm

narrow niche
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The akt and skt are gimmicky premium weapons that

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Suck

soft crater
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Literally translates to Automatic Tokerev

narrow niche
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Yes

soft crater
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Or more so

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Avtomat Tokerev

narrow niche
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Honestly

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Isn't it

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It's great

narrow niche
soft crater
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I see

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I searched it

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And got Enlisted results

narrow niche
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Wh why

soft crater
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Crazy

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Well AKT-40 I did

narrow niche
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It's literally just an older svt

narrow niche
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So the real message is you should play enlisted

soft crater
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I used to

fringe mist
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does anyone have the same problem than me and maybe has a fix? I'm trying to play gtfo with a friend but the cage drop button doesnt work whenever he is here. we tried with him making the lobby but we are stuck in an infinite loading screen. we verified game files and restarted our pcs.

midnight tulip
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You can't skip mother in R5C2 overload anymore? I just did it with bioscan speed and finished very early but we still got waves after the scan ended

fringe mist
narrow niche
soft crater
vale lynx
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Is there any difference when shooting a giant in the back of the head rather than the front?

past mesa
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x2

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difference

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1.5 and 3.0

dry pumice
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Its based on your position relative to the enemy, not any sort of specific hitbox.

midnight tulip
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Are Dauda's voicelines broken? I've heard multiple reports that his voicelines don't work and in all my 6 months since starting this game I don't remember ever hearing him talk. I'm currently listening to his voicelines on youtube and I'm certain I've never heard them before which is a shame cuz they're really good.

dry pumice
midnight tulip
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Actually now that I think about it I think he also does a voice line when bioscans start but yeah aside from tracker and scans that's it

dry pumice
#

Devs been pinged about for ages, I have no idea why is it still not fixed.

olive robin
#

Ping them again.

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In fact, ping everyone forever.

neon gust
#

can we please bots not entering bioscan

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or not picking up items while in combat

olive robin
#

I get why bots drop items in combat

neon gust
#

can we optimize the game

olive robin
#

But like

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I can't actually tell a bot to carry anything during error alarms

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That bothers me

neon gust
#

and not just making the requirements higher because you dont wanna optimize the game

neon gust
#

since alt r1

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they broke it

olive robin
#

Sounds like they decided to call it a feature

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And just give up fixing it

neon gust
#

nah

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its just that poeple rarely use bots

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so they dont give a shit

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super low priority

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only if you used to use them a lot and actually get really far into the game where you see the issues with them

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but that like a super small minority

olive robin
#

I use a bot or two like every mission

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Idk the objective thing sucks

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I'm more annoyed by the inability to hold fog turbines and not wander away from you

hidden ridge
soft crater
#

Purple is Bishop

quartz quiver
#

Does the terminal hide medipacks and ammopacks within boxes and lockers without listing them?

#

like if an unoponed locker has ammo in it, will the ammo show up when you list ammo?

vague bridge
#

it does indeed

quartz quiver
#

what about boxes?

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is it pointless to ping for boxes and lockers to find ammo if the list ammo zone command shows nothing?

drifting walrus
#

do you HAVE to have a group of 4 to play? or is it possible with 3?

vague bridge
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if you list ammo, res, or u for a zone and got nothing you either typed wrong or theres nothing in the zone

hazy wedge
#

list re/res (zone) will show all resources in that zone

vague bridge
#

pinging lockers isnt much use except for consumables

vague bridge
#

u is a useful command for showing resources, security, and unknown

#

fastest hands in the west

quartz quiver
#

is there a way to see chat while in terminal? can you ping it term ping indefinitely without attending to it?

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or can you at least view map while on terminal? i didn't check lol

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is the ping showing on the map?

vague bridge
#

you can add -t to ping indefinitely until you get off the terminal

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and chat does not show up when operating a terminal

drifting walrus
#

do you HAVE to have a group of 4 to play? or could me and my 2 friends actually do content?

vague bridge
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pings do not show up on the map, but they do show up on the screen and the compass

vague bridge
#

makes the game tons harder to be a person short

hazy wedge
vague bridge
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even with bots

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i wouldn't call having a bot fine

drifting walrus
vague bridge
#

would you want a serial killer on your team

hazy wedge
#

The missions are possible with only 3 but you will be at a disadvantage once you reach deeper levels

drifting walrus
#

got it

jagged shore
vague bridge
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it works

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but its not fine

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they're always up to some antics

jagged shore
#

they're better than having the slot be empty (for newer players who are usually the ones asking about them), which i think makes them fine

vague bridge
#

true

sturdy glen
#

they are very rarely the problem in the team if youre not doing Ds or C tier PEs

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assuming youre not doing smth dumb like giving them a high damage weapon

hazy wedge
#

I give my bots scattergun for the goofs

sturdy glen
#

but yeah they are pretty jarring to play with sometimes

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I personally hate them with a passion

quartz quiver
#

Is it possible to find what direction a zone is or how to get to a certain zone via terminal?

neon gust
hazy wedge
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Doors will display important information that will point you in the right direction.

neon gust
#

you will have to play some of their strenght and weaknesess

sturdy glen
#

I forget if querying them gives any information

sturdy glen
#

nobody be out here pinging/querying sec doors

vague bridge
#

it provides the zone it goes to and the passage to other zones

sturdy glen
#

as you can tell, ive done it plenty of times

drifting walrus
#

best loadout for my very first mission?

craggy pier
#

dont bother with whats good and what isnt

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just drop in

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and experience GTFO

jagged shore
#

yeah use guns and weapons that feel good, and experiment a bit. after you've done a few levels, maybe once you get kinda stuck on one, then start worrying about what things are better than others

neon gust
lusty bramble
#

why did you ignore me

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we can talk

hardy grotto
#

ignore beep

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hes throwing

midnight tulip
#

When you start sprinting there is a short duration where your character dashes. Is this meant to be a dodge?

native sun
midnight tulip
#

it's even when you walk backwards

jagged shore
#

yes it is
same thing though

fleet jungle
#

Does anyone know how to fix R1C1? Me and my 3 friends always make it to the reactor. Activate it. Then the whole game bugs out, timer freezes, enemies go invisible but still do damage. We haven't had a single problem on any other rundown. Even with a different host it still just does the same thing every time we get to the reactor and activate it. Help?

quartz quiver
#

were runs not fully available before? like you couldn't do r1 before?

quartz quiver
#

so why did they change it?

soft crater
#

Moving to newer projects/games

quartz quiver
orchid raft
#

there decision to dont know the answer tbh

ocean spindle
# quartz quiver why'd they make the older rundowns unavailable?

gtfo used to be like fortnite where for newer content the old missions disappeared and where swapped for new ones, also with new guns and tools sometimes
they used to say it was cause of newer content, cause it would be hard to balance all the guns between all the missions and cause gtfo was still early access
then with Rundown 7 game was not on EA anymore and most people didn't experienced the old ones

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so they back

neon gust
#

10cc fucked up and realize its not sustainable to use fomo as a practice when it comes to actual ingame content

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Because they couldnt push the story foward quick enough to recycle the old rundowns

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So they decided to bring back all the old rundowns and finish gtfo to start theyre new game while they think what they wanna do with GTFO

craggy pier
#

gtfo dies 3 weeks after r8

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r9 3 yrs later
no one left to play

neon gust
#

It will get resucitated 1 year after

minor fractal
#

They always come back.

neon gust
#

You dont do a partnership programs to not continue something

craggy pier
#

is this a fnaf reference?

neon gust
minor fractal
#

It is not, but that is funny.

#

I am behind on my FNAF lore after 3.5 years of hydrostasis.

quartz quiver
#

am i able to join someone doing r1b2 if i didn't do r1b1 yet?

ocean spindle
#

yep!

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u can join any level as long as the host has it

soft crater
hidden ridge
hardy grotto
#

What if I don’t wanna think

acoustic swan
#

I don't own the game, but I've been wondering if it's worth getting GTFO when I don't have any friends to play it with. I've read numerous reviews, and they all seem to suggest that it's not really worth playing as a single-player game. Additionally, I'm curious if the game's community is open to grouping up with beginner (me). I really wanna play the game because it looks very cool

uneven gulchBOT
dry pumice
#

Using instructions above you can find people to play with. It usually takes from 5 to 15 minutes to fill up a squad.

latent obsidian
#

As there is a sale there are a lot of beginners joining right now, so its a good time to match up with other new players

dry pumice
#

Most levels are easy enough to be finished with 2-3 people and a bot or two.

hexed lotus
#

guy's whats generally harder, B2 or C1 ?

latent obsidian
#

If you are talking about rundown 1 specifically this is also the case

dry pumice
#

It's not a hard rule, more so a guideline that the game breaks every so often.

quartz quiver
#

how can I matchmake for anything? i.e. any rundown and any stage where I join someone instead of hosting?

fierce walrus
#

.t lfg

uneven gulchBOT
bronze stag
#

what's the best way to deal with the long ranged enemies (the weak ones)?

dry pumice
#

DMR. Bullpup. Precision Rifle.

latent obsidian
#

In general target their head, its more of a weakpoint for them than most enemies

dry pumice
#

Aim for the head. They take x5 damage from it.

latent obsidian
#

And move to the side at the last second to dodge their projectile, it homes in on you

civic wave
#

As with a lot of things in this game the answer you receive is "shoot better"

dry pumice
#

Do I understand correctly that Bullpup can kill a shooter in 3 bullets from front?

civic wave
#

You can always hop in a level and test it

dry pumice
#

2 dmg
x1 prec
x5 spore
= 10 dmg

#

That... Doesn't feel right somehow.

#

And I'm the biggest BP enjoyer around here.

#

Huh.

latent obsidian
#

Rounding shenanigans?

civic wave
latent obsidian
#

Does BP actually have flat 2 damage?

dry pumice
#

They buffed with patch to rival AR

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2.2 or something

latent obsidian
#

Ah well nvm then

dry pumice
#

2.1 actually

latent obsidian
#

Sounds like a 3 shot yeah

neon gust
#

definetly lmao

#

I used to enable bp back in the og rundown 4 days

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and people will look at me crazy "why that shitty gun"

civic wave
#

I mean, they're not wrong, gun bad lmao

#

But you get away with anything I this game

neon gust
#

i think people just forget the basics

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hit more bullet than you miss

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suddenly gun good

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what the hell

civic wave
#

Yea, pretty much

#

Gun choice is the smaller part of gunplay

neon gust
#

i mean it kinda did but like

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shit would get removed

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😔

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but its nice to be able to pick everything and anything

civic wave
#

The problem with having everything available is you can just take the same gun at every opportunity

#

Like there's no reason to use a wide variety of weapons

neon gust
#

If you enjoy variety then youll be picking the guns that you feel like playing

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more sweaty people will just stick to their all in 1 and meta

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but i think most old people just kinda run everything and anything

dry pumice
hidden ridge
#

There's always going to be "what's best" or even simply what's easier to use

dry pumice
#

Yes.

hidden ridge
#

Best case scenario it becomes expedition-dependant

dry pumice
#

But you can reduce that difference to if not to zero then close to zero.

hidden ridge
#

Thermals for example

dry pumice
#

I'm not gonna cry tears over 5% less DPS.
20%, however...

hidden ridge
dry pumice
#

Yeah.

neon gust
#

you cannot have balance but you can make all things viable

hidden ridge
#

On the other hand

#

I get REALLY tired when someone in the lobby comments on what I pick

dry pumice
#

AR is viable. Yet we all know you might as well pick something else at that point.

hidden ridge
#

Tool-wise I can see it

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But I simply don't think it's a big deal for most levels

hidden ridge
#

unless you do stuff like 4 snipers or whatnot

#

There's no reason to syndacate on which weapon I want to take

neon gust
#

you cannot cannot have a "balance" in this game that swap its design like 3 times

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we were seasonal then we werent

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no you have everything that suppose to be cycle out avalible at all times

dry pumice
#

Yeah, and? Redesign the balance.

neon gust
#

i often forget im talking to artek

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my bad gang

dry pumice
#

Buff this, nerf that. Small changes there and there and bam.

#

It's literally just work. Sit down and fix it.

#

If in doubt - get vets into a room and do a survey.

hidden ridge
dry pumice
#

Everyone that matters say AR sucks. Alright - keep buffing it by +1% of damage until they stop saying that.

hidden ridge
#

"We've consulted the vet council and reached a conclusion"

dry pumice
#

I'm sure some games do it like that. Dota bases its' balance changes on international tournaments. They treat their pros like sniffing dogs that naturally settle on what's "meta", and then work it from there, because surely there's a reason a bunch of competetive players keep picking exactly the same hero every match, right?

dry pumice
#

Exactly same principle.

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It's just numbers.

hidden ridge
dry pumice
#

Irrelevant.

ocean spindle
#

think a game thats coop its kinda very different than one that is more mission based

civic wave
#

There is no perfect balance and its foolish to think you can get a roster of guns to such a point

ocean spindle
#

also pros would probs just eliminate like 5 guns and all the melees ngl

neon gust
#

its just numbers

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meanwhile multiple guns where design with different things in mind

neon gust
#

dota have hundreds of champs

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the "pros" only select the ones that are busted and usually get nerf the next patch

ocean spindle
civic wave
#

Close enough that what? All the guns have lost their personality? All.the guns do the same thing?

ocean spindle
#

ar is weaker but idk how to make it, not super strong better than smg or somethin

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and the melees are kinda in the best position they have been with the r6 buff to spear

dry pumice
neon gust
#

because you like that guns playstyle?

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or you like the utility it provides

ocean spindle
#

smg cause its simple pdw cause thermals hsmg cause the dmg machinepistol for ttk burst rifle for the range dmr for the headshots doubletap for hardest headshots but oneshot hel shotgun for the wave clear sawed off for the dmg autopiss for the stagger pistol for how easy it is and the ammo rifle for the range but not as demanding on headshots

#

they all, already have a somethin

dry pumice
#

Former is sentimental - doesn't count.
Second is a legit reason. But what if there's another gun that works EXACTLY the same but better?

neon gust
#

so a playstyle its sentimental

ocean spindle
#

cause theres not really a gun that, its the same to another

neon gust
#

got it

ocean spindle
#

i mean yes

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but with variations

dry pumice
#

"you like it" = feeling = sentimental

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Not NEED it, not OPTIMAL, I just "like it".

neon gust
#

my man its actually degrading mentally

#

lemme put it in rephrase that so you can actually understand

#

you want the playstyle the gun have to offer

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there

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happy

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or you wanna keep nitpicking at like 1 word to refer to something

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🤡

ocean spindle
#

tbh that sounds like the same sentence

neon gust
dry pumice
#

Yeah, no complaints there. That's fine. I was just in the process of recreating exactly that.
And yes, I will nitpick you.

neon gust
#

hes been stupid

ocean spindle
#

idk maybs im dumb too but i see it like, idk thtas jusst preference, like me pickin smg before the buff cause it just felt nice

#

but idk

#

no english natal lingo

minor fractal
#

It's the difference between what the preference is for.

neon gust
#

you dont dont see me doing that

ocean spindle
#

yes but u speak it way better lol

minor fractal
#

Is it something like the look, sound, feel, etc., or is it more about the optimal play pattern for the gun, the niche it fills, etc.

neon gust
#

gotta expose yourself

#

even then my writting its worse in english because i eat some letter here and there

dry pumice
#

Like okay...
Good example:

Sentiment - I really want a shotgun for main right now.

My choices:
HELShot
Sawed off
Uh... That's it, right?

Okay. Whats the actual choice is here?
A shotgun that shoots a lot and crowd controls...
Or a shotgun that actually just NUKES my target.

Alright, that's a real choice. And both are actually good at those roles too, thank god.

ocean spindle
#

ok, two options
smg, pdw
whats the choice
a gun that has big mag, very controllable recoil and its, normal
or a gun that swizzles around everywhere, has a smaller mag but has thermals

minor fractal
ocean spindle
#

bleh

minor fractal
#

Like, plenty of people are probably "sentimental" for HEL Revo, the way it plays, the place it sits in the game, etc.

#

But it's also just one of the strongest Main weapons in the game.

ocean spindle
#

dmr, double tap, rifle, hel revo
all these guns have their own use and way to play, dmr has the range and the dmg doubletap the oneshottin potential the rifle the forgiveness of headshots hel revo the pen but not so much the others range
like even puttin aside that its very powerful, u still have choices, and they do a good job too

civic wave
#

Hel revo range is still incredible for breakpoints

#

Less so if you only hit bodyshots but that thing should not be underestimated

ocean spindle
#

no yeah, thats why i said puttin aside that its very powerful ksks

#

it is, its meta rn

#

but the point is u got many other choices and they do a good amazing job too

#

like u have reasons to choose em but still appreciate the others, theres no 'bad gun' in the game rn

#

so i think thats just, the closest thing to balance we have

minor fractal
#

Ehh, AR is kind of a bad gun.

#

SMG is just okay.

ocean spindle
#

i dont thinka r is a bad gun, its just not as good as its competition, but even so it still offers range and like good stability and very low recoil with a fast reload

#

u could compare it to bullpup, which is also a good choice and has less recoil, but it has a longer reload

neon gust
#

i like smg gameplay

#

its spammy as hell

ocean spindle
#

yeah, feels really nice defo a very forgivin gun to hold at full auto

neon gust
#

but i forgot

#

artek told me i use smg wrong

#

hes right

minor fractal
#

You can actually get that from other guns, though.

neon gust
#

who uses smg like that

minor fractal
#

PDW and HSMG fill the same niches so much better rn.

neon gust
#

nah it aint as spammy

dry pumice
#

Alright, back from dishes. Where was I...

ocean spindle
#

but its still a good auto if u need that range and quick-ness to like reload and use and stuff

ocean spindle
#

:]

dry pumice
#

Here's the one that bothers me: adaptable mid range full autos.

Options:
HSMG
AR
BP
(for sake of brevity and argument - wed be here a while comparing every single auto)

BP - highest range, rewards headshots, easy to control / aim, pays for it with reload. Alright, fair enough.

HSMG - a little range limited, but deals high base damage and otherwise reliable at everything else, including being notably faster on reload.

AR... Uh... Basically HSMG, but worse in almost every way?...
Let's see...
Basically same total ammo, plus-minus...
Smaller mag...
12% less damage...
Less fire rate too...
Even reloads slower too...
What do I gain here, actuslly?!
...
Extra 3 meters of range (7 vs 10).

Genuine question to all of you: is that a trade worth making? Ever? On any map, on any level, in any circumstance? Would you?

south crow
#

so i wanted to ask since you know we are not the only prisoners with gear is it possible to add sleepers with gear? or like corpses of other prisoners is it something that could pottentionally be added to the game or is the transmutation destroying any gear on the prisoners etc

dry pumice
#

To repeat what I said to Pachi previously: the answer to question "why should I take this?" here is "take HSMG, because it's literally same thing but better".

There is no "individuality" here. It's the same gun. One of the two is just clearly better.
This is kind of "balance" that bothers me to the core.

quartz quiver
#

How do you explore a dark room with sleepers? am I supposed to flash the flashlight quickly or something?

dry pumice
#

Yeah.

#

Flash the room quickly, sleepers will reveal themselves, then start killing.

quartz quiver
#

or are you supposed to flash the flashlight downwards where their feet don't detect it?

latent obsidian
#

If you shine your flashlight on a guy it will still take them 2 or 3 seconds to wake up

#

so sweeping around the room with your light isn't risky

minor fractal
#

Usually "flashing too long" is accidentally causing a double glow.

#

You have to be extremely goofy to accidentally wake a sleeper w/ a light.

quartz quiver
#

i don't see how people are able to kill sleepers walking around (not crouching) and in the dark

minor fractal
#

We literally just said

#

use your light

dry pumice
#

They glow when they start clicking. Also they click.

minor fractal
#

Also, use your ears.

dry pumice
#

You walk towards the sound, hit head.

minor fractal
#

And have a reaction time faster than 500ms

ocean spindle
minor fractal
#

And I'll do that until I think I've found all of the enemies.

#

If stand walking causes a glow, you should also try to flash everything past that enemy to minimize downtime.

fossil jacinth
#

If you’re struggling to see enemy outlines in normal rundowns too with like.. regular ambient light, adjust your brightness a bit. Outside of the pitch black levels you can normally see the paler parts with ambient light before they glow, if only slightly

soft crater
minor fractal
#

Also, some of your weapon lights will be better than the default light.

#

Some will also be worth, so just check which is best for your prefferred loadout.

soft crater
#

Playing GTFO extensively. Other games with darkness/fog as modifiers to block vision have been easy and nothing compared to what I've dealt with in gtfo

#

(Namely darktide)

minor fractal
#

It is a little wild that you can have a dark corner with an enemy hidden in it, where the dark corner is hiding the enemy because it's a foot away from two light sources that fully illuminate the entire area around that corner.

south crow
#

so i wanted to ask since you know we are not the only prisoners with gear is it possible to add sleepers with gear? or like corpses of other prisoners is it something that could pottentionally be added to the game or is the transmutation destroying any gear on the prisoners etc

minor fractal
#

As a decoration maybe.

south crow
#

i mean wouldnt it be more realistiv if the sleepers had some kind of clothes?

minor fractal
#

As a game mechanic, it could be slightly immersive, but it just doesn't add that much.

ocean spindle
#

sleppers probs would bite off their clothes

south crow
#

cuz?

ocean spindle
#

cause they dont like em

minor fractal
#

Yeah, it seems like they either find ways to lose clothing, or they are mostly clones of each other.

south crow
#

how do you know

dry pumice
ocean spindle
#

they dont seem very fond of clothes

#

idk they are all naked

minor fractal
#

Like, respawns and birthers both make it seem like most of them are born clothes-less.

south crow
south crow
#

but i mean personell

#

and prisoners

dry pumice
#

It saves development resources. Can't tell you anything else.

south crow
#

i mean most of the turned used to be living humans

dry pumice
#

I would love left 4 dead style random infected. But these devs lack the budget. Or desire.

ocean spindle
#

theres some pants in the levels thrown aroundand clothed corpses

minor fractal
#

I'm not sure we know the %, but it actually might be quite a lot of them that are not directly transformed.

ocean spindle
#

idk what clothes would add to this game tbh

#

we already have the fashion

south crow
#

i mean its not much fashion

dry pumice
south crow
#

like id love some variaty

dry pumice
#

Not happening, mate.

#

It's too late.

south crow
#

so there isnt anything lore related stopping it?

dry pumice
#

Games on last breath. We're getting 1 update and it's done.

south crow
#

besides that the born ones would have ofc no clothes

ocean spindle
#

... how do u get world buildin of puttin on some pants

#

theres already pants on the floor

dry pumice
#

"this guy was a worker... This one was a scientist... This one a janitor"

south crow
#

next to a log

minor fractal
#

I mean, we have fully clothed corpses.

#

But they're only partially transformed, by the look of them.

ocean spindle
#

KDS deep maybs as the like high ground but

south crow
ocean spindle
#

theres just hsus they probs went on em

#

no but that they got infected somewhere else

minor fractal
#

Like, it's possible that the transformation is actually exceptionally rare, and for the most part sleepers just eat people and grow more sleepers.

minor fractal
#

Or there is no transformation at all, and the look of corpses is something else.

blissful mulch
#

Hello! Can anyone help me? Cant finish R6c1 because i the end of level extraction circle dont spawn. Can anyone help me fix It?

minor fractal
#

We only really know that they use human genetic material.

#

They seem like highly malleable creatures.

south crow
minor fractal
minor fractal
#

Or at least it's highly unlikely.

blissful mulch
#

Other levels IN R6 is working.

south crow
minor fractal
#

When you booted the game, did you launch any other level?

dry pumice
south crow
#

since the outbreak happened only in the lab/mines

minor fractal
#

Before playing R6C1?

south crow
#

and then

#

spread

blissful mulch
dry pumice
#

Namv only kills. Sleepers are a product of a parasite that is exclusive to facility and works in tandem with namv.

south crow
#

something had to lead to the first sleeper

dry pumice
#

Namv broke out. Parasite stayed

minor fractal
# blissful mulch Yes. R6b2

Did you by chance, when switching to R6C1, launch R6B2, realize it was the wrong level, return to lobby, and then switch to R6C1?

south crow
dry pumice
#

Thats namv.

minor fractal
minor fractal
dry pumice
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We don't know how parasite works, there's very little info on him.

minor fractal
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That's not what I said.

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I'm asking if that's what happened.

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Because it sounds like you have uplink bug.

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You do not want to launch and then immediately return to lobby on R6B2.

jagged shore
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ahhh tech support
asking one question and getting an unrelated answer

dry pumice
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Ask better.

minor fractal
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The only fix is to fully restart your game, btw.

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And then R6C1 should work fine after that.

jagged shore
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ray asked a very direct question

latent obsidian
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Help my bank account has money missing
Have you given your details to any shady websites
Yes okay I'll try that

blissful mulch
minor fractal
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Everyone in the lobby needs to do the same, btw.

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It might not matter, but it's much safer that way.

blissful mulch
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Nam-v creating sleepers?

dry pumice
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PARASITE

ocean spindle
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and virus

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relationship

dry pumice
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Just go to #gtfo-lore already, we'll explain everything there

quartz quiver
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what's the point of "pulse" showing up in your hud?

dry pumice
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Stamina.

latent obsidian
lyric mist
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does anyone know a good guide on stealth mechanics?

dry pumice
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Probably one of the steam guides. Lots of misinformation out there though, so better just ask here.
Any specifics you don't understand?

lyric mist
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mostly how enemy detection works

civic wave
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I think nuggies should have a good one, although it would've been made earlier when the game was slightly different

lyric mist
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like what sets them off at what ranges

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sometimes it feels like i can walk up to them without waking, other times they instantly activate

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also the very inconsistent reactions to nearby enemies getting killed

dry pumice
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Their detection radius is ~10 meters in all directions (my eye range detection is crap).

They immediately wake if they hear sprinting - they even skip normal wake up animation I believe.

Gunshots and melee hitting objects (locks included) also immediately wake them up, but at least they play the animation.

While fully asleep - they do not sense crouching, but react to walking and lights by going into semi-aware state: glowing and clicking. They also sometimes enter that state randomly.
In this state they can sense even crouching. They will respond to more stimuli by "throbbing" and after about 3 strikes they will fully wake up, telegraphed by an animation and a scream.

dry pumice
soft crater
dry pumice
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Don't know what to tell you. IRL I detect range in human bodies where 1 body = 2 meters rounded.

soft crater
lyric mist
dry pumice
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Yes.

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It will go throb throb.

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Stop moving.

soft crater
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They can still detect you when fully asleep. Their detection is just smaller.

lyric mist
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also is there a cooldown after they stop glowing?

dry pumice
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Btw they waste time when playing "going aware" animation.

lyric mist
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sometimes an enemy stops glowing so i start moving again but then they glow immediately after and wake up

dry pumice
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That's weird.

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You sure you're not sprinting at them?

lyric mist
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usually client

young trench
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anyone tryna play ?

soft crater
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Sleeper pulse/throbbing can be out of sync potentially

lyric mist
hardy grotto
# lyric mist also the very inconsistent reactions to nearby enemies getting killed

So killing an enemy right next to another one, they will always trigger, anything in that range will always trigger.
If an enemy is outside of that range, and they’re glowing, and you kill something, there’s a chance they can trigger. So unless you want them to wake up I would wait until everything is not glowing. However if you do want them to wake up, I’d recommend flashing them and walking into the enemy you want to kill before you hit them because it makes the long range aggro more reliable.

lyric mist
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how does waking them up help?

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what if they scream

soft crater
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You pseudo select which enemies you want to wake up.

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Once an enemy is awake. Killing them won't trigger nearby sleepers.

lyric mist
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wait for real? is that a bug?

dry pumice
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It's an advanced tech.

soft crater
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It's not often used aside from vets from what I've seen

dry pumice
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Most people don't use it.

soft crater
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Even then. It's very few situations vets need to use it

hardy grotto
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it’s smth I use a lot in stealth

lyric mist
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i mean it solves my issues with far away enemies waking up at random

hardy grotto
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Even if you don’t actively use it, it’s still good to know how it works because now you can avoid waking up enemies at long range yeah

soft crater
hardy grotto
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I do it to trigger smalls next to bigs

torpid token
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You can try to clear the first half of R7C3 alone, it will be very helpful for you to understand the aggro mechanism.

soft crater
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First half.

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looks at blood door

torpid token
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there are two possible mines resource box in first c area

lyric mist
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one more thing, walking outside their detection range doesn't set them off even when glowing right?

dry pumice
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Just play normally, the knowledge should come with exposure unless you are reliably being exposed to some weird buggery.