gtfo-related-questions

[olive robin]

Hammer is just optimal

And should probably get rebalanced

Or other melee get buffed

[ocean spindle]

the options are always nice

and the ideas are not bad

[dry pumice]

Well, speal is almost there already... Bat and knife though... Just keep increasing base damage by 5% every patch till people stop complaining.

[olive robin]

Hear me out ok

Spear no sprint nerf

Hammer reduced stagger maybe

[ocean spindle]

bat its not bad and knife legit is the most useful of the three

[olive robin]

Knife loses the sleep bonus and just gets a back damage multiplier

[ocean spindle]

knife got the biggest niche, which is just combat in general

[olive robin]

Spear isn't bad though

It's very nice on giants for safe killing

Also that 78 occiput damage is wild

[dry pumice]

I wouldn't say wild, but better

[olive robin]

I say wild cause of how far you can be and land it

I rarely used spear for a long time then tried it a little

That range is so noticeable

[dry pumice]

Spear is just comfort weapon for those who don't sprint.

[olive robin]

I mean you literally outrange enemy alert radius when crouching using a spear

Isn't it 2m on crouch

[dry pumice]

No, it's far bigger than that.

[hidden ridge]

what do you mean?

[dry pumice]

He thinks you can spear stab a sleeper before he starts feeling your crouch while glowing

[olive robin]

I'm pretty sure I read somewhere

[ocean spindle]

as much as spear has range, nope

[dry pumice]

Stop reading things, dude

[olive robin]

That when crouching, enemies only start glowing within 2m

[hidden ridge]

enemies can hear you walking crouched just fine

[olive robin]

Yea when they start glowing they can hear you walk or crouch within 7m

[latent obsidian]

Hold on there is a distinction though right

I think Crab might be right

[olive robin]

But before that they can't until you are within 2m while crouching, but 7m on walk

[hidden ridge]

The act of crouching does way more noise than "just within 2 meters"

[fierce walrus]

yeah

[latent obsidian]

So walking within 7m or crouching within 2m will always increase their agitation after a period of time

But if you are crouching outside of 2m they will only glow at random intervals?

Seems to ring true with my experience

[ocean spindle]

doesnt the line start in both sides the same? where u start to walk enemie glow, and if u enter that circle as the enemy glows crouchin it pulses either way

[olive robin]

I'm pretty sure yea

[latent obsidian]

Yes when its glowing already its a different story

[olive robin]

Enemies only glow if you walk within 7 or crouch within 2 unless they randomly pulse

But if they are glowing its 7m in general

Spear has 3m range

[latent obsidian]

3m?? god damn

[olive robin]

So if you crouch around with it you can hit enemies without making them glow im p sure

[ocean spindle]

idk if i believe this ill have to actually like see

or wait

no i guess i get it

[olive robin]

3.2 range on spear

[ocean spindle]

now i get it

[olive robin]

Spear range is solid tbh

It's just a shame crouching is very slow often times

[ocean spindle]

yeah tbh i i kinda would still walk to the enemy

[olive robin]

It might be good if like

A cluster maybe, you approach from one side crouching

Though idk if that will wake the others

Idk spear has a place with the range

It can be useful sometimes

[ocean spindle]

if two enemies r close enough that they r together, hittin em from far away will do nothin and itll just wake up

[dry pumice]

Stabbing scouts from elevated positions, and having easier time with giants, that's literally it.

[ocean spindle]

i guess for bigs to ensure not gettin slapped

[dry pumice]

But it does also provide comfort in stealth sections.

Spear doesn't need sprint, you just casually stroll from victim to victim.

[wind wren]

Do shadow scouts ever bend over when spreading tentacles?

[dry pumice]

They only wake up if you were approaching as they were already glowing, and they usually don't survive the full stab either way.

[olive robin]

What weapons would you recommend if I enjoy the konig

[ocean spindle]

the sniper?
probs somethin to protect urself if u get a swarm since sniper with smols its very slow

so maybs an automatic, tho ur gonna do a lot of balancing

or if u wanna keep ur ammo like semi balanced u oculd go for maybs a rifle, a pistol...

[olive robin]

I meant like weapons that work similarly

Konig pistol is one of my go-tos because it's solid

But i tried dmr once and despite it also being a headshot thing I just struggled with small guy headshots

I think I'm better at giant headshots cause they move so much slower

[ocean spindle]

yeah thats fair
i mean weapons that work similar then, um pistol rifle still cause they r heashots weapons
i guess for some levels precision rifle its the closest thing to a sniper but for smalls
hel rifle has a very similar feel tho no need of headshots and more dmg

[olive robin]

I liked hel rifle it wasn't bad

Doesn't it have a kinda crappy precision multiplier though

[ocean spindle]

yes :>

ah well revolver for headshots too

[dry pumice]

@olive robin Precision Rifle.
It's basically a sniper rifle against smalls. Or an upscaled DMR, with 2 times the reload.

HEL Rifle is basically a sniper rifle that doesn't need headshots to be good, but can't drop giants so well. Not many options outside of that really.

[olive robin]

Alright

How about the double tap rifle in main

How would you rate this

[ocean spindle]

its good, like a dmr, it can oneburst smolls but its harder to use

the recoil kinda kicks, and u can either aim below the head so the recoil makes the bullet hit, or aim headshots and drag down to finish it off

[dry pumice]

Eh

Cute gun, but getting value out of it is too much work

[olive robin]

What about the burst rifle

[dry pumice]

Same thing but more convinient / easier to use. Instead of one burst it takes two.

[tepid sand]

A high skill gun

[ocean spindle]

burst rifles range its nice

[sturdy glen]

I swear

WHERE do ppl read shit about this game

that is just consistently wrong

how does it always happen

[icy cave]

Interwebs

[sturdy glen]

I get not knowing stuff, but why is it always perceived knowing of things that is just

completely incorrect

[olive robin]

Reading comprehension devil

When you look at words and somehow misread it entirely

[dry pumice]

YouTube and steam guides, I suppose

Wiki has none of this

[tepid sand]

Okay we def need the gun stats doc to be pinned

That and a good video explanation or something to go along it

[sturdy glen]

the style guide...

[tepid sand]

Ye get that shit out too

[olive robin]

Isn't the wiki accurate

[dry pumice]

Usually

But anyone can go and edit it any point

[tepid sand]

It’s hard to compare

Side-by-side stats

Personally I find it easier with a spreadsheet full of data

[fierce harbor]

I have noone to play the game with. Is it still worth getting

[ocean spindle]

if u decide to play with randoms in this server, u can always try findin a lobby with randoms, or dm back a couple of people u played with before

[icy cave]

Only if you willing to lfg on the discord

otherwise: No

[lament parcel]

Will the rundown 7.0 get the alt treatment? if not, wouldnt that affect the lore weve been told in the previous alt runs?

[olive robin]

r8 is the last planned update

so i doubt either 7 or 8 will get alt

[lament parcel]

so alt lore will never have en ending?

[olive robin]

well

r8 hopefully will wrap things up

[lament parcel]

oh, alright, so at least well get 1 storyline ending

[olive robin]

well

we hope

we havent been told yes or no on that

[lament parcel]

and in case everyone shits on that ending, the alt treatment can be an excuse to end it properly haha

[olive robin]

we will just have to see

[lament parcel]

aight, so no one knows and we can expect anything

[olive robin]

i think so

[lament parcel]

oh, alright, thanks for the quick answer. And uhm, when does the r8 get released? or when does the community expect that?

[tepid sand]

No confirmed date

[bright jackal]

Dear developers, please add customization for bots from the things you have in your inventory. Simply, when you have no friends, then bots become your best partners who, over time, want to add individuality to their image and not look at their ordinary appearance. I loved your game with all my heart, so I want to hear your words in response to my request. I wrote here because I couldn’t find another suitable place. I apologize in advance.

[sturdy glen]

Yeah, fuck the games core cast

[fierce walrus]

The devs have confirmed there will be no ALT R7, the lore of ALTs will have to be wrapped up in R8

which will conclude the entire story line most likely

[lament parcel]

That and more awareness for the dialogue in game. When shit goes sideways and the boys scream "WEAPONS UP!11!!" its so good man, it adds so well to the immersion. l4d does that, but gtfo's voice acting top notch and plainly does it better, but it feels like it hasn't been exploited enough.

[lament parcel]

hoping for the best then

[lament parcel]

thanks for the responses bois

[ocean spindle]

theres a mod than activates way more unused voicelines if ur interested

thing its called chatter reborn

[lament parcel]

Aighty, thanks mate

but still, would make the experience of new players 100x better if it was the vanilla that did that

I mean, the in game music does it, and god damn, the game wouldnt be the same if it wasnt as dynamic as it is now

[ocean spindle]

#discord-announcements message u can also send em an email, its in this message, maybs u can have more of a chance to b read there

[ocean spindle]

yeah, i mean depends on the type of player some like no dialogue but i would like it to be a choice
but yeah game ost its fuckin, rad

i love droppin to a mission with no enemies at the start

cause the music always plays

[lament parcel]

same man

love that shite

[ocean spindle]

so much personality ksks

[wind wren]

My squad and I just had a really fucking werid bug in r4e1 w reactor, it didn't accept thr correct code for a solid 4 minutes. Is that a known issue?

[past mesa]

When were you typing in the code

[wind wren]

After wave

So in the correct time

[past mesa]

Which code was it

[wind wren]

#gtfo-media message this is the input, the correct code was indeed belt

3rd code

[past mesa]

Did you get the correct code in at some point

[wind wren]

We put it in 3x during "get code from x terminal and use" thing during 2 sperate waves

[wind wren]

Yes after putting in a bunch of times it eventually moved us to the next wave

[past mesa]

We’re you lagging?

[wind wren]

I wasn't putting it in, host themselves couldn't put it in

[past mesa]

Why couldn’t host put it in

[wind wren]

Poorly phrased, host put it in but got the "incorrect code" thing

[dry pumice]

So how did it end up working, in the end?

[wind wren]

Eventually some1 else (not host) put it in and it worked

[past mesa]

Tbh this sounds like the host might have just been stupid

[dry pumice]

Desync is truly magical, isn't it...

[tardy ingot]

as host artek

[wind wren]

Yes but only after 3-4 minutes but we had 2 ppl at blood door and we got overrun at reactor def

[tardy ingot]

i feel like it was what jish presumes

[past mesa]

Most likely host is stupid

[dry pumice]

Is the screenshot in media the one?

[wind wren]

The ss is from host, I know they put it in at correct time twice

[dry pumice]

I'm checking both codes and theyre exactly the same

[wind wren]

Yes

[dry pumice]

Top failed, bottom worked?

[wind wren]

No, failed a couple more times

[tardy ingot]

that would be weird considering its supposedly 5 ties

tries*

[wind wren]

We waited through the waves and put it in a few more times right after wave

[past mesa]

Did they have a space after the code?

That can cause it to fail

Very common

[wind wren]

No

[dry pumice]

As IT support: I love hidden spaces

[wind wren]

They were careful about that after 1st fail

[past mesa]

How are you sure? They typed it out every time?

cause tbh

[tardy ingot]

are you sure that was the code for code 3

and not code 4 or smth

[past mesa]

This is host being stupid if it was a bug we would have seen it more often

[tardy ingot]

tbh the screenshot legit cuts out a lot of shit

so we cant rly infer anyhting

[wind wren]

Yes we were getting upset and confused by that and I rechecked code at terminal twice, so it was the right code 100%

The blood door was under lock down and the terminal number given matched with the on on the terminal I was checking

[wind wren]

Yeah idfk why the cropped

[civic wave]

Am I stupid or does the C in REACTOR_VERIFY BELT look wrong

Can you even type foreign script onto gtfo terminals

[tepid sand]

No

[past mesa]

We can’t know but most likely is host did it wrong tbh just based off of experience

[wind wren]

I dont wanna @ but i_am_near and tgb03 both were in the lobby too, tgb eventually was able to put in code correctly but I don't think he screenshotted anything (I'll ask him) (he didnt)

4th player isn't in server

[wind wren]

Yeah, makes me wish more screenshot were taken

[dry pumice]

I noticed it too

But chucked it down to bad image compression

[wind wren]

Does it matter? Could it not just be slightly weird alignment w FOV?

[dry pumice]

That too

Either way we don't have enough information to infer anything else

Either host screwd up something, or it's a freak bug that is not experienced often.

Modded could always be at play too, just breaking things... Who knows.

[wind wren]

Host wasn't modded (also not the only one to put in code and get error), every1 else was

[past mesa]

The problem is the people who haven’t see this bug is a big deal

Players with thousands of hours means someone of us that generally talk would have told the other about it

[neon gust]

WELCOME TO ANOTHER GTFO TRIVIAAAAA!!!!!!

What used to happen in original r5c2 OVERLOAD TUNDERDOMMEEEE!!!!!

[floral acorn]

ppl would circle kite the giants from main? 🙂

[neon gust]

NOT WRONG

[floral acorn]

also 100% respawn gen hub, scouts n all. not right.

[past mesa]

Waves didn’t stop/they did depending on patch

[neon gust]

True??

BUT IM REFERING TO THE TANK SPAWNING

You getting you robotic legs cosmetics removed

[sturdy glen]

it was like current r5b3 overload

tank error while scan is going

[minor fractal]

8 hours late, but a proper group of 4 is exceptionally rare. It makes no sense to take knife for a situation you see maybe once a game, and not consistently. Just get a teammate to help, or clear the group last, or even do some forced alerts to pick off an enemy or two from the problematic cluster so that you can treat it like a triple or double. This type of situation is just not a significant factor for stealth at a high skill level.

There is also probably a misidentification at play considering you're a fresh join to the server. Your idea of a group of 4 is probably not actually a group of 4, and is at worst a group of 3 if not two pairs and maybe even some singles. If you have a comprehensive understanding of the stealth mechanics, you can clean up four enemies that are in the same general area pretty comfortably without much of any risk of causing wakes.

[minor fractal]

Space after code seems to function fine.

I think as long as first argument succeeds, it will take it.

[minor fractal]

I think host is infected, but hard to tell.

[ashen frigate]

Hard to tell with such a zoomed screenshot

[past mesa]

Infected

[arctic marten]

hard to tell

[fickle glen]

how do i do the reactor thing

[civic wave]

REACTOR_STARTUP command to spawn a team scan that starts reactor
REACTOR_VERIFY <CODE> to progress to the next reactor wave

you either complete all waves or die

also you can type COMMANDS into a terminal and it'll tell you about the specific reactor commands (same for uplinks later)

[wind wren]

If a door is shot/hit do enemies behind that door hear that/wake up?

[ocean spindle]

no
only when the full door is broken, and that will alert only enemies near it

[past mesa]

No unless you have an open path from your location to that location

Or you hit them through door and some other player has them in an active enemy dection mode but there is some stuff here

[wind wren]

Thanks : D also from how far away can enemies hear mines explode?

[past mesa]

6 meters if the mines doesn’t hit anything

20 if it does

Also does get effected by door ways

[wind wren]

"in an active enemy detection mode"? What does that mean?

[past mesa]

When you are more than 2 rooms away have closed doors enemies are in an inactive detection mode meaning they will update their detection method which allows them to alert and move through phases

Things can still wake them up but they won’t go through phases normally

And the scout bug can happen

Which we found out recently

[wind wren]

I think I understand, thanks

Also what scout bug?

[past mesa]

Check dm

Scout bombing is the name we settled on

[dry pumice]

TL:DR
Players leave ghosts of themselves behind whenever they get far enough away and scouts can touch and react to those.

Next to impossible to setup in a normal game, but apparently a common enough issues on R7E1 of all levels.

[sturdy glen]

its surprisingly easy to setup, its just using circumstances that are pretty much never present

[past mesa]

New players would probably have it happen to them

I think we settled on

But they wouldn’t know why

[minor fractal]

New or scared players are most likely to exhibit the necessary behavior ^

[past mesa]

If you just kill scouts it won’t happen

XD

[dry pumice]

So like... 4 guys go in, see a scout, 3 get scared away and leave, 1 guy stays doing nothing and then scout finds itself a ghost?

I mean, how often does that happen?

[past mesa]

Yup

Must happen a few times

[minor fractal]

It's more like at least one person sees scout, shuts door, and books it.

[past mesa]

Enough that it caused a wipe on r2d2 which is why we went looking for it

[minor fractal]

Another person goes over to explore that room, takes too long, and scout gets a ghost touch.

[wind wren]

Is there a way to avoid leaving ghosts?

[past mesa]

Just don’t close doors

[wind wren]

Besides just killing scout ofc

[past mesa]

Or be mindful of were you are when closing doors to scouts you don’t kill

[wind wren]

Alr thanks.... another bug to keep in mind

[past mesa]

This one you shouldn’t need to play around expect r7e1

[minor fractal]

For R7E1 in specific, you want to make sure that the ghosts near the door are ghosts of stealth players.

Your stealth players will be coming back through and updating their positions, which prevents the issue.

[astral pollen]

is it true that holding the hacking tool while running is better? (and if so what does it actually do?)

[ocean spindle]

um no

it does nothin compared to havin ur guns

only thing it really does its, prevent a misclick and firing the gun by accident i guess

[astral pollen]

okie ty!

[craggy pier]

holding guns slows you slightly

use hacking tool since it has very lil weight

[past mesa]

???????????

?????????????

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[stuck elm]

bruh

[craggy pier]

just like csgo

u hold knife to run faster

[hardy grotto]

LMAO JISH

this single comment has broken them

[civic wave]

poor jish

[whole grove]

Jish, didn't you know you could do this?

[sturdy glen]

its my old r5 booster

like the bioscan speed one

• move speed with hacking tool equipped

[stray forum]

is there a consistent way to freeze a mother with just a cfoam launcher

[past mesa]

IS IT SLEEPIG

or awake

[stray forum]

sleeping

[neon gust]

Granades

Cfoam granades

[boreal solstice]

Guys which is a better loadout for R2E1?

PDW + precision rifle
carbine + combat/chokemod shotgun
or
Burst Rifle + sniper

[ocean spindle]

ummmmmmmm
do i have to choose of the three or can i combine em

[boreal solstice]

umm you can combine or add some weapons because i don't really choose other weapons except the ones i listed

I'm still trying to figure out the right blend or combo of weapons for specific situations

[ocean spindle]

ok pdw combat, or carbine combat
alternatively u can do hel shotgun and um maybs like chokemod, tho i would go more for normal shotgun cause u dont really, need the range from what ive seen

hel shottie would b really good tho

and i dont think a sniper would, be tbh

cause theres not a lot of bigs and most of em have a quirk with um aiming

in case u havent, been there before

so yeah i wouldnt go sniper

[boreal solstice]

oh okay thanks will try other guns too

i keep getting rekt by big shadows thinking that its small thats why i brought a sniper haha

[ocean spindle]

yeah well its stillhard to oneshot em but ksmdkm maybs the shottie helps

and the bio cause height difference

tho i dont need to say that why would u not do it with a bio

[boreal solstice]

I was wondering if finishing a level with only a thermal and no bio is doable but yeah won't try no bio anymore against that type of levels

[ocean spindle]

i mean finishing a level with just ur normal not hermal its, possible in the big big big big majority of cases

hell probs finishin a level just with machinepistol is

but idk why would u do it

[boreal solstice]

curiosity

i fked around and found out

[neon gust]

Ar and combat shotgun

If you lacking in stealth then yeah you can bring pdw

[zealous light]

I would prolly go Hel shotty & machine gun

When me and my guys cleared it i had Hel autopistol and pump shotty

Kinda weird in hindsight but worked

[neon gust]

Auto pp really good on r2e1

[hardy grotto]

Food

Are you hungry

[neon gust]

Yes

We should play darktide some day

[hardy grotto]

someday

Idk if I have it installed even

Maybe I do

[short badge]

is there a secret to controling the burst canon's recoil, or do u just gotta get gud

[dry pumice]

Allegedly you can crouch as the moment burst starts and it pretty much counters it

[civic wave]

or you pull down hard on the first bullet and the rest become easy

[olive robin]

Placing mines on the ceiling to do back damage to snatchers, how logical would this be?

[dry pumice]

I'm not sure mines are capable of doing back damage period

[soft crater]

Mines can hit headshots and etc iirc.

[native sun]

Back damage comes from the player being behind the enemy, not from hitting them in their physical back. Being above a snatcher does not grant bonus back damage.

[soft crater]

"infront of enemy"
but you shoot it's back physically = no back damage

this really messes with a lot of beginners at first

[olive robin]

Hh

So mines can hit heads cause it's a weakspot

But can't do back damage cause it's not a player technically?

[soft crater]

if it helps. sentries also do not get back damage

(this was balancing thing and they claimed it was a bug)

Sentries used to have back damage

[olive robin]

Truly normal GTFO mechanics

[midnight tulip]

what's the terminal command again to list the current zone?

[craggy pier]

list zone_X?

[midnight tulip]

no, there is a command that will tell you "This is terminal_x in zone_x"

was it info?

[craggy pier]

info

yes

or ping

it tells u what zone u in

[midnight tulip]

ok, thanks

[craggy pier]

[midnight tulip]

also now that you can sprint with the spear what is the upside to using hammer?

[icy cave]

its 25% the speed of hammer sprint

also hammer kills on full charge no matter where, spear need to be the head

the real question is: why does the spear even exist ?

[midnight tulip]

the spear deals more damage on head than hammer does, right?

cuz precision bonus

[digital mural]

more range?

i think thats it

[icy cave]

its 2 more

[digital mural]

lol

[midnight tulip]

2 times more or 2 damage points more?

[icy cave]

not needed, hammer closes the gap as you'll be going fast anyways

[craggy pier]

good question

[icy cave]

2 damage points xD

[icy cave]

honestly with current balance just have 4 hammers

the rest is ridiculously not needed

[tiny tundra]

Bonus damage with spear matters more for giants if anything but even if then hammer still seems to be the better weapon for the job

[craggy pier]

but bat n knife are good too ya kno 🤡

[icy cave]

I would take those, before even touching spear

[tiny tundra]

Bad and knife are fun even if hammer is kind of measurably the best in 99% of cases

[midnight tulip]

did they buff thermal vision? I haven't played in months and remember seeing jack shit with thermals inside smoke but now I can see very clearly in smoke with thermals

[dry pumice]

No, it's the opposite

It used to counter smoke, but they fixed it and now it can't see shit through smoke either

It does helps in mild weak fog though

[olive robin]

Spear does 78 on giant occiput, hammer does 60 I'm p sure

[icy cave]

12. mb. still not enough to make a difference

[olive robin]

Yeah it doesn't result in less total hits

I think on solo giants spear and hammer have their benefits and weaknesses

Spear has a lot of range but hammer has more stagger

[dry pumice]

They just need to give it another +0.1x prec

Then you and hammer friend can drop the guy in 2 hits by yourself.

[hidden ridge]

info, or you can just type PING without anything else

it'll tell you that you can only ping stuff from zone_whatever

[ocean spindle]

i remember seein a video of idk who, and they kept typing 'ping' as the first command even tho with a new update the terminal said the zone

[civic wave]

habit from old versions of the game

bring back og r4 terminal I don't need to autocomplete most things I need to be a non-stop ping machine

[ocean spindle]

ik but, it was kinda funny skmdksm

:>

[hidden ridge]

did you get a video of me?

because I still do that

[ocean spindle]

mayb ksmdkmd

it was like r4 r5 one of those two

[hidden ridge]

I'm being sarcastic I dont put videos online

[ocean spindle]

ah idk

so many people here r youtubers

[civic wave]

I'm a youtuber :)

my last upload was like a month ago or whatever and I don't upload anything, but I'm a youtuber :)

[digital mural]

show me

[civic wave]

oh i don't have my youtube account linked/visible on discord, uh

[ocean spindle]

oh

[civic wave]

I wonder what my youtube name could be, maybe it's the same as my discord/stream name

wait why can you add ebay/paypal to your discord

[digital mural]

idk

but dont do it

[civic wave]

I don't have an account for either of those services

[latent obsidian]

was probably me

[wind wren]

There is no efficiency that works on disinfect right?

[dry pumice]

I'm not sure myself, getting conflicting info. I think there is?

[ocean spindle]

i dont think so cause theres med efficiency only for medis and resource efficiency for ammo n tool

[tardy ingot]

did you try whether med efficiency doesnt work on disinfect slendi?

[dry pumice]

I swear I tried to do in R5D1 and it didn't work, much to my disappointment...

The default value is 12%, right?

[minor fractal]

20%?

[ocean spindle]

no but, the booster just says that its for meds, prisoner will find medipacks more efficient or somethin like that

"Subject will get more out of MediPacks. "
i swear every time i copy

from the wiki

i save it on bookmarks csuse of a misclick

[dry pumice]

What level would be the quickest to test?

Where you can get infected and find some disinf very quick?

[ocean spindle]

umr2d1 nayb

u do alarm thats it

[hazy wedge]

I thought med efficiency did work on disinfect packs

Or at least what I was told

[ocean spindle]

idk, i wouldnt think so but im not sure anymore

[tepid sand]

Pretty sure it does

At least that is what I recall when I ran med efficiency and detoxed

You could just test it in R7C2 or some infect level with detox

[minor fractal]

It does not affect disi

Checked in R2B4

[tepid sand]

Detox pack, correct?

Not the station?

[minor fractal]

y

[civic wave]

I feel like everyone already knew this then collectively forgot

[tepid sand]

I’ve only remembered it to affect disinfect packs, not stations

Stations are standalone and aren’t affected

[minor fractal]

y as in yes

I tested the pack

Hell if I have the time to make it to the station.

[tepid sand]

Yes, especially gets forgotten if you don’t run boosters no more

[dry pumice]

What about supply efficiency

Just to be sure

I swear there was something... Quirky about dis packs

R2B4, you say?...

[covert warren]

anyone have pointers for R6B2, me & the boys tried for it blind got our cheeks clapped going for secondary

[vague bridge]

youre not missing out on much if you skip

[ocean spindle]

what

:[

[vague bridge]

the secondary that is

although main isnt much better

[ocean spindle]

ah idk its just, nice filler for funks

[wind wren]

So nothing affects disinfect, thanks : D

[hidden ridge]

If you want to test dis with a station I think r2b4 is the closest

[dry pumice]

We still don't have a supply ef confirmation

I really don't want to burn a booster for this

[civic wave]

It wont affect it

[dry pumice]

You sure? You tested it?

Because i swear i've seen it being affected by something. But could always be a classic Artek moment... I just need evidence.

[civic wave]

I haven't tested it but I am sure that I'm right

Besides its not like I can test it right now

[dry pumice]

I'll see what i can do. I just need a confirmation on how much disinf cures by default.

20%, is it? Sure-sure?

[civic wave]

Yew

Yes

As with most things in this game, it works in 20%s

[dry pumice]

Goddamn, i don't have a supply booster

I swear i did...

argh

[fierce walrus]

disinfect is not affected by supply nor med efficiency

and as far as im concerned nothing affects the amount disinfect clears

[dry pumice]

I would still love to see for myself.

[ashen frigate]

Where was that screenshot taken, @soft kiln ? #gtfo-media message
I see that one of the cells has been put in, so it must be quite close to the target room

[civic wave]

Only 1 ladder like that, should be zone 457 area C

[ashen frigate]

I know, but the floor in my version is not the same here :)

Which is why I asked

So maybe this will be fixed in an upcoming update

Tried to repro but could not

Even trying to drop that cell 100 times ^^

[jagged shore]

i had that happen with a fog turbine, i was somehow able to drop it while on the ladder
gonna try to repro myself since i had it happen too

[ashen frigate]

Ah, that could make sense

Always unfortunate when people get downed while climbing. It makes reviving them clunky

[civic wave]

Yea I think I heard from someone else in the run on another server that it had to do with the ladder

[jagged shore]

mine had nothing to do with getting downed or revived

[ashen frigate]

I'll try that, thank you :)

[jagged shore]

okay you just straight up can drop it while on the ladder lol

just hold e while on the ladder

[ashen frigate]

Ok, I can confirm. But this will be fixed in an upcoming update.

[past mesa]

I love your optimism

[ashen frigate]

This is not optimism. This is factual.

[past mesa]

I do believe you have said this to me before

with the funny r6b2 box and currently that is not fix also was the worst update the game has ever received breaking 99% of storage maps

[ashen frigate]

Hey, it is fixed now, is it not ?

[past mesa]

No

the og problem still exists

[olive robin]

will hammer get nerfed in the coming update, or will the other melee be buffed to compete

i need to know (i know i wont get a real answer)

[ashen frigate]

This cannot be disclosed

[ashen frigate]

Oh, I am well aware of it

[olive robin]

this means it is part of the update, thank you for confirming. as if it wasnt you'd have just said no right

[ashen frigate]

If it were me, I would have removed the possibility for boxes to appear on this asset.

But I have no idea how practical it is. And if it would require to reseed all levels, then it would probably be very risky to do

I am not a GTFO level designer

[jagged shore]

okay, i've got some more info on it
i don't know the exact details, but
it seems like if you press E roughly on the frame (i say roughly cause i'm not certain that's exactly it, but the frame seems to be around there) that the ladder prompt shows up, then you'll get ladder prompt with the progress bar
then if stand still for a minute, the prompt will fill up as if it was the drop prompt, but it won't complete
if you leave the ladder prompt area, then you'll hear the "unsuccessful" buzz (something like that idk lol), and if you hop onto the ladder, it completes instantly and drops the item

this was without ever HOLDING the button, to be clear, just presses

[hardy grotto]

@past mesa do u think that’s linked to being able to charge a revive for someone else to continue or smth

[jagged shore]

sent a clip in media

[ashen frigate]

I see Jarhead, but in a future version of the game, the ground here has been smoothed out

and carriables cannot drop at this place

therefore they fall in front of the ladder instead

[jagged shore]

okay but like
why not just fix the thing with the prompt being weird in the first place

so that it couldn't happen elsewhere with less weird ground

or whatever

[ashen frigate]

This would be a much more global change, as it would probably have repercussions with many other interractions

But I get what you mean

[jagged shore]

i'm sure it would
but run-enders being able to exist is pretty not ideal

[past mesa]

Seems like you are getting really close to go on the ladder then you drop it instantly

If only under the ladder wasn’t a course node

[hardy grotto]

you used to be able to charge hammer going up a ladder

I don’t think you can anymore I haven’t checked

[past mesa]

Beth this is one step closer to ladder teleport

I can feel it

[hardy grotto]

LOL

[zenith trout]

what does completed: [1,-,-,-] mean?

what does the 1 stand for

[jagged shore]

number of times completed

so in later levels there are a couple types of optional objectives
secondary, and overload
those numbers track how many times you've completed each type of objective, with the fourth number being how many time you've completed it with all of them
the dash means there's none of that type for that level

so it goes:
[main, secondary, overload, prisoner efficiency (all of them)]
so you've completed the main objective 1 time, and the level doesn't have any of those optional objectives

[red willow]

Is this game dead enough where I need to discord and play bc Matchmaking doesn't exist? Curious because I've been in queue and cant seem to find people too

[hardy grotto]

Matchmaking is dead yeah

[red willow]

oof

[hardy grotto]

Discord has always been the main place to find ppl to play with

[red willow]

bet

[jagged shore]

yeah it existed before in game mm existed, and in-game mm is just lacking as far as choosing what you actually wanna do (afaik)

so everyone's stuck with discord lfgs

[red willow]

So I am assuming being new is impossible then?

[hardy grotto]

no

[ocean spindle]

nope

[hardy grotto]

There’s a beginner lfg

[ocean spindle]

u can still find a lot of newies on #lfg-beginners

specially with the sale

since a lot of people buy it

just some advice!
always ask to not be carried, make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
and if u havent be sure to do the tutorial first [Training] and start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one

[red willow]

OHHHHH

thatnk you thank you

[ocean spindle]

yeh that, wasnt the chat ksmdkm

but its ok

good luck with ur runs

[vast timber]

How much +melee booster % do I need to one shot giants with the hammer?

[ashen frigate]

It is not possible by using boosters alone

[sturdy glen]

200%

max you can get is 202

so without perfect boosters gl

[olive robin]

Could use an iix syringe

[dry pumice]

+100% melee damage bonus is what you need

Perfect occi is 60 and you need 120 to kill them, so... Twice the damage, or +100%

Spear needs only 52%+

[olive robin]

What about the decimal hp bug

120 would be problematic

[past mesa]

It shouldn’t matter

Just tap them

[olive robin]

Eh not 1 shooting then

201% boost

[past mesa]

101 boost

[olive robin]

True

Knife needs like

2.5x more damage

[soft crater]

it is.

albeit. a near/capped melee booster in every slot

[ashen frigate]

I meant it in a practical, vanilla way

[soft crater]

it is possible vanilla

[ashen frigate]

In very extreme cases, maybe, but probably not intended to be :)

[soft crater]

even then

you either need homie proximity

or to be above 50% for it to work

because the bold/aggressive boosters will have either of those requirements

[ashen frigate]

I might not have factored in the latest boosts to Spear

[soft crater]

spear is like 63% iirc

62% if you want to rely on rounding numbers

[dry pumice]

53

78.75 top possible damage

120 / 78.75 = 1.5238

53% to be sure, but people reported it working with 52% because GTFO likes it that way

[jagged shore]

and people thought math was useless outside of school

[ashen frigate]

53% sounds definitely doable then, my bad

Just got to chose the right weapon for the job

[sterile citrus]

You can get 102% in vanilla

[past mesa]

53 is doable just with aggressive I believe

[dry pumice]

Yep

That's how i did it, accidentally

Had some massive agressive and decided to burn it on a random level

Was surprised myself when giant just dropped

MFW:

[soft crater]

was thinking pre-buff percentages

rip

[hard ravine]

will there be gtfo ambiances/music on spotify

[ocean spindle]

ummm as much as i would like i doubt it

would be cool tho

[olive robin]

Someone could in theory spend time making some?

Sit around in certain levels and just record

[craggy pier]

easternunit already has them on yt

[ocean spindle]

yeah

they r on youtube

but not on spotify

[craggy pier]

then upload em

[ocean spindle]

i think i would get sued ngl ksmdkm

idk how spotify works either

[olive robin]

The reality we live in

[jagged shore]

you can have your own spotify stuff on there

not like publicly, just in your own library

[hard ravine]

i heard about that..might have to try that out

bout to make the reactor ambiance my alarm (i willl shit myself)

[silk meteor]

My crew and I are about to hit story missions for the first time by starting Rundown 6, and we're not sure what path to take in terms of the narrative. There is A1 and AX, then B2 and BX, etc. Do we go down the left-hand side to do the numbered missions, then go down on the right doing the "X" missions? Or should we do all missions in a tier (so A1, AX, then B1, BX, etc.)? Sorry if it's a silly question, never done a story level before.

[tepid sand]

Story missions don’t include AX, BX, CX

[silk meteor]

Ahh okay, thank you! We were confused because the "X" missions have the yellow border, which we assumed meant it was also a story mission.

[past mesa]

They do just ax bc and cx are their own story line

[past mesa]

Yeah play the a1-d1 story line first

[ocean spindle]

also the x levels are a bit harder than the number ones so yeah

a1-d1 its, better

[tepid sand]

That’s not “story” at that point that’s just a different story

[ocean spindle]

i mean kinda its story

[past mesa]

Story line

a1-d1

And ax-dx although the extension story line was gutted in the alt r6

All for lore

Tbh worst part of r6 drop

[silk meteor]

Awesome, thanks, we'll do the numbered ones for the main story and then the "X" levels for the other story line (or whatever it is haha).

[tepid sand]

Story line extension is a better name

[ocean spindle]

they are, extension levels

idk

[tepid sand]

They aren’t part of the main storyline levels

So what would you call them then?

[ocean spindle]

extension levels

[tepid sand]

That’s their default name

[ocean spindle]

extension story levels

[tepid sand]

That’s… literally the same name I just had

[ocean spindle]

yeah

i coulndnt think of anythin else

[tepid sand]

😐

[cold quarry]

spear can do it quite easily

[boreal solstice]

is there a reddit post where it lists the hardest to the easiest level?

[ocean spindle]

i dont, know at least i havent seen it, people only pretty much rank the rundowns difficulty

[craggy pier]

@whole grove how does one dodge tounges

is it enough to simply walk to the side? i swear it sometimes doesnt work for me

[whole grove]

Did you watch my clip?

[craggy pier]

yes, this is why i am asking

[whole grove]

You may have recall seeing a diagram of the enemy attack radius.

[minor fractal]

A recommended progression might be:
Introduce the game: R6A1 / R6B1 / R1A1 / R1B1 / R2A1 / R3A1
Teach basic mechanics: R1B2 / R2B1 / R2B2 / R2B3 / R2B4 / R6B2
Harder mechanics or mechanics that involve less linear level structures: R1C1 / R3A2 / R3A3 / R3B1

Everything past that is really up to what you want to do and what you can handle. Difficulty is somewhat subjective and hard to organize, but generally know that the lower you go the harder it gets.

[neon gust]

Didnt we explain that to you already?

[minor fractal]

You appear to already be dodging, mostly.

Running to the side before running away.

[boreal solstice]

thank you

[rain urchin]

I'm new to gtfo and don't have friends lol. Where can I find a grouip to play with?

[ocean spindle]

hello! u can check the LFG channels to share n join lobbies! the instructions are in https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/653623062964731920

just some advice!
always ask to not be carried, make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
be sure to do the tutorial first [Training] and start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one

[rain urchin]

Thanks! im doing the training right now

[ocean spindle]

okii, much good luck on ur runs

[digital sigil]

Thoughts on a lil bit on aim assist for controllers? I understand it’s a hardcore fps, but the little bastards move too weirdly and too fast for me, even 30+ hours in

Like in Squad or RoN I can live without the aim assist, because everyone moves normally and relatively slowly

The sleepers are on crack tho lmao

[tardy ingot]

This game isnt meant for controllers

[icy cave]

terminals....

[digital sigil]

It has built in controller support.

[olive robin]

But it isn't meant for it

You get the option if you want it, but it's not meant for it

[digital sigil]

Eh, fair enough

[latent obsidian]

the problem is there are terminals in game you need to type into to do stuff

[digital sigil]

I’ve played worse with controller lmao

[olive robin]

You could play elden ring on mouse and keyboard, but the game is a console game

[digital sigil]

Yeah I switch to keyboard for terminals

[latent obsidian]

Honestly the idea of playing any shooter on a controller seems weird to me after using K&M for them for so long

[digital sigil]

Like obviously the game is worse on controller, just sayin they could make it a lil better

[tardy ingot]

controller game, but works perfectly fine on pc

gtfo is horriblle on controller

as are many fps games honestly

[digital sigil]

Honestly it’s one of the better games I’ve forced to run on controller

Works pretty well

[tardy ingot]

putting work in now to make controller play better is probably not gonna happen

[digital sigil]

Yeah probably not, just wishful thinking

[latent obsidian]

I can't imagine doing melee combat with tight turns and camera movement, or target prioritising enemies attacking me in a wave with controller

But I guess I'm also not used to controller for fps

[digital sigil]

Aiming is obviously a bit harder, everything else works pretty good

After forcing Tarkov to run on controller, everything else is comparatively easy I guess lmao

[orchid bloom]

Would anyone be able to explain the quirks of each weapon type? Ex. Which are more useful in what scenarios, etc.

[tardy ingot]

that would be a lot of spoiling honestly

[latent obsidian]

I guess for a starter you could separate them into burst damage for big targets and sustained damage for killing lots of small enemies

Eh, its a lot of explaining and listing, theres probably a guide for it somewhere...

but that will have spoilers

[tardy ingot]

just try stuff for yourself

get a feel

if youve played a bit we can also answer question easier

[latent obsidian]

Most of the main weapons do a similar job (not hel shotgun/sawn off).
Special weapons are more specialised and more powerful

Extremes being something like revolver is great for killing smalls, scattergun is great for killing bigs

[orchid bloom]

Alright, Thanks.

[dry pumice]

Mains are not mains and are actually your back up "switching is faster than realoding" weapon.
The Specials are the real killers, you actual primary weapons, which often deal lots of damage capable of quickly dispatching lots of small enemies or even nuking big ones (like Sniper rifle, which drops giant monsters with a single headshot).

The rest are min max details.
Generally: if it shoots fast (like a machine gun) it's a gun meant to crowd control small enemies and and not really meant to be wasted on big targets, and vice versa.

Guns like Pump Action, High Caliber Pistol and Combat Shotgun are easily adaptable to any enemy, as long as you can bypass their various limitations (like range).

[soft crater]

Should note. Specials will refill more per ammo pack use than Mains

More percentage.

[digital sigil]

that's super imprtant, i only learned that recently. so yeah your special weapon should act more like a primary a lot of the time

[tardy ingot]

honestly not rly

you shouldnt use your special more than your main just cuz it has more power

[digital sigil]

if you're using a shotgun, it can def be a primary

unless it's the scattergun ofc

[tardy ingot]

you generally just wanna use 30% of your special for ~20% of your main

[orchid bloom]

Oh yeah, Another thing that I wanted to ask about

I've noticed that some people go really slowly through rooms with enemies whilst some groups just rush the enemies and kill them rapidly

Are both tactics still viable or was there a change to the gameplay that made actual crouched stealth less useful?

[digital sigil]

yeah that kinda just dpends on the group's skill level/loadout/general situation goin on

i think going slowly is a lot more fun but some of the pros prefer to blitz thru

[soft crater]

Percentage wise it refills faster. The actual bullet count isn't like Mains

[digital sigil]

well yeah ik

[tardy ingot]

both are viable
Tho full crouch becomes less viable for later levels since they often have something that tries to push you forward quickly

Generally its just an experience thing

[digital sigil]

honestly bad take on my part i'll admit

[soft crater]

4 monke With Hamrs

[digital sigil]

big stick go bonk heehoo

[orchid bloom]

Yeah, I've noticed that a lot of pros like to rush with hammers

Looks like it's an actual tactic for "speedrunning" veterans

[soft crater]

Just because they rush doesn't mean they are a vet tbh.

[dry pumice]

Yes.

[soft crater]

There are some newbies who see it and try to replicate it without knowing all the tech behind it all.

The slightest confirmation of anything makes em have the belief of misinformation often times

[dry pumice]

What tech?

Approach victim, slam head.

[lone locust]

Walking while charging the melee, clearly

[digital sigil]

stick go bonk

[lone locust]

Very advanced tech

[digital sigil]

easy

[tardy ingot]

honestly its bad to rush and melee with hammers in speedruns

[orchid bloom]

The art of lobotomizing the victim with a single blow to the head via construction equipment

[soft crater]

Knowing minimum charge times and proper movements to prevent damage

You wanna rush and leave with 20% or 100%?

Hp

[dry pumice]

I answer 100%, but true vets are okay with 20% too

[gritty wedge]

50% final offer

[dry pumice]

It's just rule thumbs for the most part

[soft crater]

[dry pumice]

50% charge from front, 25% from perfect back

Wait for target to go sleep before approaching it casually (wake up animations wastes their time)

[soft crater]

33% striker occi

It's a little more but I forget the exact percentage

[dry pumice]

Hammer?

[soft crater]

Yes

[dry pumice]

Hm. Wonder if spear can do 25. Will pay extra attention next time.

[soft crater]

What's also is. Sprinting at enemies makes them insta wake into attack animations which can lead to more dmg taken

people sprinting at shooters and getting shot before killing it

[dry pumice]

That too.

[soft crater]

Which you can do but have to dodge it whilst doing it

[dry pumice]

Casual stroll is the true stealth tech.

[soft crater]

I do sprint jumps outside detection as client

I wouldn't recommend as you need to get a feel for the detection radius and surrounding enemies

The only other person I've heard mentioning this specifically is Eva

Doing it as a Host will still make the sprint jump landing noise and wake enemies Sadly from my testing

[finite oracle]

is scout activation instant when it takes damage or is there a small window before it become invincible?

[tardy ingot]

do it anyway as it delays wake up

[olive robin]

Window is big enough for burst weapons to work

But small enough you can't do anything outside burst weapons

[latent obsidian]

Or for a second person to melee it after you (if you are coordinated ofc)

[finite oracle]

what about machine guns?

[latent obsidian]

You can probs kill scouts with MGs if you land the first shots on the back of the head

Its not practical though

[finite oracle]

ok

[tardy ingot]

tbf you can stagger scouts

[olive robin]

I'd honestly just recommend like

Melee if you can

If you cant

Try shooting them from super far away through a door

[tardy ingot]

you can
zentreya did so actually accidentally when streaming it

[latent obsidian]

Is Zentreya a new player?

[tardy ingot]

zentreya is a massive vtuber

[icy cave]

Lost me at vtuber

[arctic marten]

huge L for zentreya then

being a vtuber must suck

[latent obsidian]

But they didn't know shit about scouts or how you are supposed to kill them I guess?

and lucked out with some niche stuff

[tardy ingot]

they knew in a basic manner how they work (did r1a1 for the 3rd time or smth)

they panicked and occi shot it

[latent obsidian]

based

[wind wren]

They didnt hel autopp it? Cringe ngl

(If solo even with boosters&to back it wouldnt stagger frequently enough to make the scout not scream right?)

[tardy ingot]

come back when youve speedran training

[wind wren]

Omw to get a 20 min time on a 10 min lvl

[tardy ingot]

sub 4:30 or kick

[wind wren]

Lmao

[latent obsidian]

Submit 4:20

[topaz anvil]

Submitted 4:20, bomb gave me a strike

[latent obsidian]

cut wires 1 3 and 4

[topaz anvil]

We blew up sorry

You aren't very good at this

[fervent pecan]

What's the deal with forced alerts and long range aggro?
In theory I know it's useful to prevent RNG based alert and need less scouting but in reality I don't really see it through.
In practice it's use is that U only have to find the closest sleeper and u don't risk waking up some random dude in range?

[latent obsidian]

Its very niche... you could also use it to force alert a sleeper that is part of a nasty cluster and clear it without alerting the rest of the cluster

But I guess if you get used to it and integrate it into your gameplay you can clear rooms faster due to needing less scouting like you say

[olive robin]

Rng based alert is only applicable to the guys who are glowing in a 15m radius around the one you kill

So theoretically you could always avoid it by syncing up the enemies around you

[dry pumice]

I don't quite understand the question. You're asking why the mechanics is in the game, or you're asking why people bother playing around it?

[latent obsidian]

I understood it as questioning the utility of using long range forced alerts

[fervent pecan]

Maybe i phrased it wrong.
I understand how it works i think I just don’t see its use?

[hidden ridge]

I'll admit it's not a topic I'm super familiar with, but I always supposed it to let people clear clusters one by one

By abusing the mechanic were if they are already woken up, killing them doesn't trigger anything

At least that's what I've believed it to be since I only heard that being mentioned in the context of soloing

[latent obsidian]

Honestly it would even be pretty awkward in soloing as you are likely to wake the cluster as you walk towards it

[civic wave]

it doesn't have much use, and it will rarely be useful

[hidden ridge]

AS SUCH, of course, the usefulness of that drops drastically if you are NOT alone

[civic wave]

but say you have a small guy standing right next to a giant, you can long range aggro the small guy so it's easier to deal with the giant

and that's about it

[fervent pecan]

If you kill the small one besides the giant in the grace period, the giant won't wake up then?

[past mesa]

The grace period wouldn’t effect proxy aggro

[civic wave]

you long range alert the small one so he moves away from the big one, then you kill him

[latent obsidian]

Eh?

If you kill him next to the giant the giant won't wake...

[jagged shore]

if he gets long aggrod

[fervent pecan]

Ohhh

[past mesa]

Alerted enemies don’t have proxy aggro

it is the reason why double killing is the safest method of killing packed rooms

[latent obsidian]

Yes, this is why your previous statement confuses me

Perhaps I'm interpreting it incorrectly

[past mesa]

There is no grace period on alerted enemies the only time you have grace is slow wake up and in-between alertness phases

[latent obsidian]

And also Pachi saying that you do it so the small "moves away"... if you give it a chance to move away you give it a window to scream

[past mesa]

If we are calling slow wake up grace idk what we are doing

[latent obsidian]

What is the grace period you refer to then?

[past mesa]

When you are gonna go to the next phases sleeping glowing pulsing you have time that you can do more actions before it counts

[arctic marten]

maybe you should check mono

just to be sure

[past mesa]

Maybe you should make a Smurf account to post in gtfo lore

[arctic marten]

why would i want to go into gtfo lore

theres plenty of control freaks elsewhere

[past mesa]

Complains of control freaks holds the info of stuck jump over ours heads

[arctic marten]

its not me

its the big boss

[civic wave]

what is stuck jump

[past mesa]

You are a sheep

[arctic marten]

baa

[past mesa]

No wonder you need control freaks in your life

Tiny tiny sheep boy

[arctic marten]

baa (but smaller)

[arctic marten]

its where you get stuck while jumping

[gritty wedge]

Gtfo discord beef 0_0

[craggy pier]

gtfo discord chicken when

[civic wave]

oooooh, momentum bug yeah I know that one

[arctic marten]

unrelated, but since i cant post in lore im here to say i think its the second one

[wind wren]

Help spear is too comfy against giants, I forgot how to solo them w hammer do I have to full charge?

[soft crater]

[wind wren]

Also can I jump into them to hit them when soloing or will they just smack me?

Cuz ik I can when duoing them

[narrow niche]

Real

[past mesa]

You go behind them full charge head 55% limbs to deal need back dmg to stun lock

If you mess up dw just go for scream cancel after tongue

You can jump but it waste stam best to use just of first hit

[finite plover]

for what is spear used? does it have any strong points?

[ashen frigate]

Strong precision multiplier

You get rewarded for aiming at the head of most enemies, for instance

[craggy pier]

What does GTFO stand for? (wrong answers only)

[ocean spindle]

get the fthe othe

[gritty wedge]

Good teriyaki fried ostrich

[surreal lake]

I use it mostly for range, hammers good but having some distance when dueling something like a giant is real nice.

[fierce walrus]

Get The Full Order

GTFO is a game about working at a McDonalds drive thru

Dont let them tell you otherwise

[past mesa]

Genetic test for oranges

[surreal lake]

What specials do you all usually take into chargers? So far been sticking to HEL rifle, choke and veruta but unsure if theres better options.

[gritty wedge]

Why is everyone in love with the veruta

What is it

[fierce walrus]

cause its good

machinegun veruta

[ocean spindle]

hel rifle is kinda the best since it oneshots, high cal also its very very good but doesnt have the range but more so the reload
um hel gun two shots em if im not wrong so its not bad tho a bit inferior

and hel shottie if u wanna stagger em its super cool tho it is a main not a special

[fierce walrus]

there are 2 machineguns, arbalest and veruta so people use manufacturer names

[ocean spindle]

very good ammo stagger dmg and reload cancel

u just kinda need to control its recoil

[gritty wedge]

Hel shottie 🤢

[ocean spindle]

skill issue

[surreal lake]

veruta just feels like the machinegun you bring if you wanna win lol

[ocean spindle]

:3

[fierce walrus]

I like arbalest more cause you can actually see what you shoot

[ocean spindle]

sometimes i use arbalist

its very good recoil

[surreal lake]

Mains all feel kinda like throwing sticks at chargers from what I can tell, ok for stagger or 1-3 chargers but yeah not nice for clearing.

I do really like hel revolver into chargers though, can stagger lock quite a few chargers.

[ocean spindle]

hel shottie and sawed off are kinda the exceptions, since sawe off has same dmg as hel rifle and hel shottie well, its, its hel shottie its an auto shotgun idk ksdmkm
yeah hel revo and dmr are also very good, well i havent tried dmr but ive heard it is good

a good round 4 hits

but yeh u were on the good pathwith ur choices :3

[vague bridge]

hel shottie 😎

[ocean spindle]

hel shottie

[wind wren]

Get the fried onions

[wind wren]

Alr, thanks
And if I cant stay behind em ig like ⅘ charge for limb break stagger?

Or does it need to be full charge

[minor fractal]

55%

[wind wren]

Is that little really enough for limb break from the front? Wow, ig ill have to try

Thanks : D

[minor fractal]

It looks more like 65% to me, not sure if I calculated wrong.

[jagged shore]

for a giant limb break with full back? yeah 65%

[short badge]

what does full back mean? do they take more stagger when they got a hole in the torso?

[ocean spindle]

no, full back i guess it refers to full back dmg

[short badge]

as in just hitting in the back?

[ocean spindle]

um back dmg goes down in a % epending on the angle u see the enemy from if i recall correctly
if ur like, straight behind em, full dmg, if ur 90 degrees to the side, not so much

think that was the thing

[short badge]

ah i see, i thought it was either u get it or u dont

[ocean spindle]

same but apparently not
usually only maters with like certain types of enemies that might be a spoiler dependin on how far ur into the game

for the rest of normal enemies u do enough dmg always to stagger or kill

[jagged shore]

something about the difference between the angles of the vector enemy is facing and the vector that goes from you to the point of contact

I think there's a wiki page for it if you wanna be a nerd too

[topaz anvil]

This is known as the dot product

Or scalar product

If i had to estimate the back damage output, it'd be:
DMG = WeaponDMG * precisionMult * (1 - min(1, StrikerViewAngle • PlayerViewAngle) )* backDamageMult

There are some problems with this regarding the angles but you can get the picture

[soft crater]

[olive robin]

It has pretty good tolerance so as long as you're hitting the back of an enemy from behind it while facing it's back, it will probably do full damage

[native sun]

There's a 40 degree cone where you still deal full back damage, so yes, very generous. Especially when you often don't even need the full benefit, so you can be substantially outside that cone and still get plenty of damage.

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Back_Multiplier

[native sun]

^ for more

e.g. you still get +50% damage while at 75 degrees away from being completely aligned (and +25% from being 90 degrees away, i.e. being directly to the enemy's side).

[mossy aurora]

is that LordLuna....

@lordluna

[craggy pier]

what vets do to a mf

[upper ginkgo]

kaiser is that you...

[craggy pier]

kaiser

[hot quail]

hello first time in the gamee just bought it last night

https://tenor.com/view/the-aristocats-marie-sigh-sad-cat-gif-17285942866850726620

[craggy pier]

hey there

drop by the tutorial click the training button and follow the instructions

[craggy pier]

There are many strikers after you, you don't have any ammo in your guns and need to reload, there is no cover anywhere near you

How do you survive this without getting tongued a bunch? What do you do in this situation

My reflex is to run away but I've realized it's a bad plan

[narrow niche]

m

[craggy pier]

m

[neon gust]

drive by

[narrow niche]

real

[neon gust]

literally

hammer out

attempt to kill

play it safe

also you can just transition to another room

earn some space

[latent obsidian]

It's strafing time

[craggy pier]

jump up/down ledges, it breaks their ai for a sec and gives u some time

[glad pike]

also

if you look away from a striker

they'll attack faster

[neon gust]

its just that you have to look at them for intimidation to kick in

[craggy pier]

What

[neon gust]

its suppose to reward

actually engaging the enemy

byt giving you time to shoot or hammer a little

[craggy pier]

Why are sleepers intimidated by me

Am i that ugly

[icy cave]

good question. have no clue tbh

[icy cave]

Ah well those are your words

[craggy pier]

My entire face is covered up with a mask is that not enough

[neon gust]

I mean ill be scare if a dude be shooting at me at conversation distance

[glad pike]

damn

[craggy pier]

They don't know what guns are

[neon gust]

they get scare of they loud bang bang shotty shot

[icy cave]

Bruh you guys INVENTED the stand off

[neon gust]

who is this you guys

you speak off

[icy cave]

Mexicans. Edit to the blue haired individuals: it's called a Mexican stand off . it's a joke.

[glad pike]

let me ask you this: what's more scary? a guy with a full arsenal running away from you screaming, or a guy with a full arsenal choosing to run straight at you with a hammer?

[neon gust]

an impass sir an impass

[icy cave]

I need to put legal disclaimers everywhere nowadays

[craggy pier]

Paranoid schizophrenia

How to know if something lives in your hesd rent free 24/7 in one easy step

[icy cave]

I mean they have taken action against me before for jokes like this. so .....👀

[glad pike]

I just say shit and prepare for the backlash

[craggy pier]

I haven't said anything in like

Years at this point

[glad pike]

cause my jokes can piss off a fuck ton of people

[glad pike]

L

you should try speaking

[craggy pier]

What can i say i enjoy not being banned

[glad pike]

I've never been banned

[craggy pier]

And what's the point anyway when the servers are about videogames

[craggy pier]

Lucky ass

[glad pike]

joke funni

mods love me (they're waiting for me to break any rule so they can ban me instantly)

[wind wren]

No I was asking about front, when I cant get behind the giant cuz idk tight corridor or smth

[craggy pier]

hate to dump all over your party but i dont think they care nuff

[native sun]

If there's not too many (5-6) and if a reload would allow you to kill them/control the situation, then do the semi-circle walk while reloading.

If there's way too many, and a reload aint gonna be enough, time to long kite. Look for a way to escape while breaking LoS as soon as possible (get around a corner etc.).

Their attack range is infinite once they've started the attack, so there's very little point in trying to run directly away. Either you dodge to the sides for a reload, or you break LoS and run like hell.

There is a distinct shortage of places in the game where there is truly no cover, and if you find yourself in one of those, your first mistake happened a long time ago when you decided to position yourself there.

Likewise, if there's 20 enemies coming at me, and one of my guns isn't reloaded, and my other gun can only kill like 5 of them before needing to reload, then staying put and shooting until I'm truly out of ammo and the enemies are on top of me wasn't the best decision either. Probably better to have started a slow retreat much earlier, hoping to buy time for either reload without being caught.

[craggy pier]

Im sorry

There's no way their attack is infinite

I have dodged a giants tounge by walking backwards

And i think also a striker

[native sun]

Once the attack has started. There is a very, very small window between the attack triggering and the attack starting that you can move out of range within. But if you are in range when the tongue leaves the enemy, you cannot run away anymore, your only chance is breaking LoS or moving far enough to the side/behind them.

Getting far enough away within that window happens much more often with giants, since they like to start their attack at their absolute max range more often, and also have a larger window between the attack triggering and the attack starting (longer wind-up animation).

[craggy pier]

Okay then

Very useful information