gtfo-related-questions

[soft crater]

(I've recently started slapping stickers on my water bottle)

[latent obsidian]

I got the gtfo water bottle but the threading for the cap was a bit pants and it doesn't really seal properly now 😦

[dry pumice]

Don't tell me you never sucked on a zipper of your own clothes

[soft crater]

Iirc. The price their merch sells at and then the shipping cost is

[tepid sand]

Yes, it very much is

[soft crater]

I keep debating if I really want the bomber jacket

Or raincoat

[tepid sand]

If you ballin sure

[latent obsidian]

I'll be honest I don't really like the design on most of the clothes

[tepid sand]

I think 10C can do a better job with their merch in general

[soft crater]

Same. Sadly the Santonian hard hat isn't for sale

[dry pumice]

I still remember the bacon baby fiasco

[soft crater]

[latent obsidian]

I've said it before I'll say it again just whack the santonian logo on a tshirt or something, and I'll be tempted

[tepid sand]

https://shop.gtfothegame.com/collections/collectibles/products/santonian-industries-hardhat

Is that not it?

[elfin lava]

more importantly, is that a gtfo branded adult diaper?

[tepid sand]

Yea, but that ain't for sale

[elfin lava]

😭😭😭

damn why not, what a comedic piece of merch

[icy cave]

That's not the same as wanting to lick a metal box !

[latent obsidian]

Did you guys lick batteries when you were younger?

[icy cave]

Actually no

[elfin lava]

not even 1 lick??

[latent obsidian]

I'm not even being stupid asking that, cos some people I know have claimed to and acted like its normal

[icy cave]

Not batteries no

[latent obsidian]

So maybe I'm the crazy one

[icy cave]

How are they now?

[elfin lava]

idk i can't say it's been a habit but surely i licked one atleast once

[elfin lava]

energised, surely

[latent obsidian]

They are fine, even the one who taste tested for HCl in chemistry class

[icy cave]

All sane members of bri'ish society?

[latent obsidian]

Exactly, I would say they are emblematic of bri'ish society

[icy cave]

Stabby stabby

[icy cave]

well then I'll write a thesis on the correlation between battery licking at a young age and the probability of stabbing someone at an older age

[latent obsidian]

Make sure your survey sample is culturally diverse

[icy cave]

Ugh ah yes nowadays ....

[icy cave]

to the mods: it's a joke!

this too: it's hard to get a culturally diverse survey sample in the prisons

/j you diks

[latent obsidian]

🌶️

[icy cave]

I like my jokes like prisons like their population

Ok that's too much /j /j

Back to work

[elfin lava]

damn i opened the app up at the wrong time

we discussing some shit with duo, he's saying we should stop using bioscanner and just take another gun, i don't feel like it's needed, ik the game is meant for 4 but does anyone have a take on this?

[latent obsidian]

I agree with him, generally

[icy cave]

What's usual loadout

[latent obsidian]

There are very few levels I'd take bio in duo

[ocean spindle]

if ur doin duos no bots, yeah i wouldnt go for a bio

if its with bots give it to a bot

[elfin lava]

sentry, scanner, i run dual revolvers most of the time and duo runs crowd control main and sniper rifle

[elfin lava]

yeah no bots

[latent obsidian]

Its either 2 burst or cfoam mines for me

[elfin lava]

we flexed cumgun + mines some missions but rarely

[ocean spindle]

yeah no its not very
i mean, most sneak u can do by urself no bio, and bursts doesnt need bio

[icy cave]

As a duo, probably 2 burst, or cdoam and mines

cfoam/mines probably most efficient

2 burst for reactors

the sniper I am not so sure. way too much hassle ammo wise

Hel rifle instead OR a shotgun

[elfin lava]

it's the only thing we use for giants, ammo econ ends up being alright

[latent obsidian]

Eeeh, I think thats kinda down to preference

[elfin lava]

wait what

[icy cave]

Yeah no need for sniper on giants.

[elfin lava]

what do you guys use most?

[tepid sand]

Burst Cannon

[latent obsidian]

My comfy loadout is carbine/choke or carbine/shotgun

[tepid sand]

If you can sweep well

[icy cave]

Veruta myself or shotguns

[tepid sand]

That or just use BC pierce

[elfin lava]

for giants veruta?

[icy cave]

Carbine as main

[latent obsidian]

Oh for giants specifically shotgun, choke, or sniper

[ocean spindle]

theres a lot of giant weapons that, while dont onesot well, they are still very fast

[latent obsidian]

I don't really play hel rifle or BC or scattergun much

[elfin lava]

yeah specifically for giants is the question sry

[latent obsidian]

But they are definitely good

[tepid sand]

BC/Hical

[icy cave]

If Icexpext to kill lots of giants hel rifle/choke/shotgun. but yeah veruta works well for giants. you dump some ammo in.

[tepid sand]

For giants

If you're gonna use veruta get in the habit of flanking them around the back

[elfin lava]

isnt sniper strictly more efficient for em than hical?

[icy cave]

Obv the veruta is crowd control tho

[elfin lava]

rough for duo...

[tepid sand]

Ye

Veruta takes 35 bullets front for a giant

Vs 15 in the back

That's why

But if you're gonna be bringing veruta you're gonna be crowd control

[elfin lava]

my knowledge is mostly what i see in game so sry if im missing somethin obvious

[tepid sand]

Slash wave clear

[ocean spindle]

problem with sniper is u cant use it on anything else, and if there isnt 15 giants every alarm u dont really need to oneshot em all, and u can use something that can take both bigs but also be used on small enemies

[icy cave]

The sniper is excellent for giants but you are soooo limited the rest of the time

[ocean spindle]

like, a sniper in the middle of a, class V alarm its gonna be just very useless

cause its gonna be almost small enemies

[icy cave]

and you don't want to overfill main

[elfin lava]

gotcha, our dynamic is that i am more in front tapping smalls and buddy uses ammo on bigs and stuff that gets within 5 m of me

[tepid sand]

Use high cal

[ocean spindle]

[or a shotgun]

[elfin lava]

and we honestly first tried majority of missions so stuck with these loudouts and strats

[tepid sand]

Combat you kinda wanna flank around the back too

Shottie is great just low ammo count

[elfin lava]

I'm on phone so cant check numbers but doesnt the sniper still kill more of em more comfortably?

[tepid sand]

Sniper one shots

But it's niche

[ocean spindle]

well u can first try majority of the missions with whatev loadout as long as u know how to aim tbh, but yeah its better to just be a lil more flexible on the guns, see what each level requires and base ur loadout around it

[elfin lava]

ill tell duo to try it

[ocean spindle]

like what u do with tools

[tepid sand]

You aren't able to support your partner to the best of your ability with a sniper

Unless sniper has it's niche filled

I.e in a level where it may actually be useful

[elfin lava]

I'm the one being supported, and any giant i call out dissapearing is so nice when i run two revolvers

but ill try the machinegun as special, im just better with semi auto compared to tracking+recoil control

[icy cave]

sniper will rarely fullfill it's potential throughout the level. Like on a 4 man I can see it for the niche times it could be usefull but otherwise....

[elfin lava]

we'll try more stuff then, so for dedicated giant killer its hical, BC and choke shotty?

[tepid sand]

Is your duo good at recoil control

[elfin lava]

he's pretty cracked yeah

[tepid sand]

Tell him to take BC

And tell him to sweep

[elfin lava]

wdym exactly by sweep?

we know 0 abt BC

just stats

[tepid sand]

BC isn't only used to kill giants + minibosses

[elfin lava]

oh like sweep the crowds

[tepid sand]

If you can control the recoil you're able to kill multiple strikers

Yes

But you have to be good

Might require some practice as well

[elfin lava]

is that even ammo efficient though?

ik the BC has hella low ammo

[tepid sand]

I personally never was bothered by BC ammo count

Actually feels like it has a lot imo

[tardy ingot]

dedicated giant killer is sniper

but in a duo you rarely dedicate 1 person just for giants, so you do a heavy hitting weapon, which is basically

choke mod, shotgun, hel rifle, high cal -> mid/high dmg guns that can do small kills fine and casually
burst cannon/scattergun -> slightly less good against giants than sniper but have potential wave clear use in panic situation

[elfin lava]

huh, as i said we arent experienced w it so might be true

[icy cave]

If these guys say it. it is.

[tardy ingot]

so 2 things
generally in a duo you arent gonna run into as many ammo problems as in 4 man, since you wont double shoot the same enemies

[elfin lava]

thanks for the infodump, everyone else aswell tyvm lol 🙏

[tepid sand]

Might be worth trying out hel gun

[tardy ingot]

plus ammo generally isnt that much of an issue as many people think

[tepid sand]

If the level has good lines

[elfin lava]

i switch to it when i use cfoam

[tardy ingot]

hel gun definetly not on the giant killer tho

[elfin lava]

make my own mf lines haha

[tardy ingot]

that would be questionable

[tepid sand]

For wave clear

Not giants

[tardy ingot]

yea

[elfin lava]

yeah ofc

[tardy ingot]

but even then

honestly hel gun is rly good but needs you to be rly good aswell

[tepid sand]

If only hel gun 0.1 s was still here, giants wouldn't be an issue

[elfin lava]

i rly dont like the hel rifle, i dont think once in my life i made full use of 6pen

[tepid sand]

Should ask Chill Dude about hel rifle, he is a hel rifle enjoyer

[tardy ingot]

regarding ammo efficiency on burst cannon btw

most non wave clear focused specials (choke mod, high cal, hel rifle, shotgun) have 8-10 per refill (8-10 kills, discounting pen)

burst cannon gets ~17 bullets per refill. thats 3 1/2 bursts. If you get 2 kills per bursts (which should be easy) then you get to 7 kills at least. If you use it well and get like 3 on average you start being as efficient as they are

obviously you are less versatile in when you wanna kill smalls, but in return burst cannon SHITS on bosses and is an easy answer to lower a giants hp to 10

[tepid sand]

I don't use hel rifle often, I personally don't like it

[tardy ingot]

im hurt that you mentioned chill dude

[tepid sand]

I see you use fucking combat more than hel rifle

I don't wanna hear it 😂

[elfin lava]

you bring up some great points, now i wanna use it aswell 💀

[tardy ingot]

1. you dont need 6 pen, it isnt balanced around that, like at all
2. getting any pen makes it efficient as hell already

[tardy ingot]

hel rifle is legit my 2nd most used

since hel gun in speeds is kinda troll rn

[elfin lava]

ig you're right, im just such a disgusting minmaxer that seeing 4kills of damage go into a wall breaks me internally

[tardy ingot]

plus hel rifle fucks shooters for me

fuck shooters

[elfin lava]

preach

[tepid sand]

BC on blood doors is goated

[tardy ingot]

burst cannon (similar for hel gun) are guns that give insane return if you get good with them

[tepid sand]

That's if you don't run mines

[tardy ingot]

but they are kinda scuff to use for a lot of the time you play them at first

well burst cannon is vs smalls

not vs bigs/bosses

[tepid sand]

Against 3 hybrids is a piece of cake

D2 moment

[tardy ingot]

also regarding duo
bio is often not worth it in a true duo unless the level calls for it (this will happen)

2 burst sentrys (rarely sniper), mine/foam or mine/sentry are the go to

void...

what

[tepid sand]

What

[tardy ingot]

3 hybrids, D2?

[tepid sand]

First blood door bozo

R7D2

[tardy ingot]

r7d2

i dont think burst cannon does that that well

even if it can theoretically 1 burst now

[tepid sand]

Try it

[tardy ingot]

i have lol

[elfin lava]

when does it call for a bio? 🤔

[tardy ingot]

@elfin lava

youll see

[tepid sand]

I've been grinding so much D2 I can say for certain if you run no mines and just bring BC you will obliterate the blood door

Because what's the fun in mines

Less shooting to do

[tardy ingot]

instead of mines, bring hel shotguns

[tepid sand]

That's no fun either

That's just easy clearing

[tardy ingot]

hel shotguns are more fun than bc

brab brab brab brab brab

[tepid sand]

Chill brings it

I don't bother

[tardy ingot]

chill has good taste

[tepid sand]

I'll stick to hel revo

Think Ray is the only one who actually switched up and brough PDW + Shottie

Otherwise Chill just brings hel shottie + scatter

[ashen frigate]

I can get behind HEL Shotty in D2

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[lusty bramble]

no

[muted palm]

Hello there! I bough GTFO not so long ago, kinda trying to agther as much bravery to start play with random as I can.

I'm wandering what rundowns I should looking for as complete beginner in the game? There is obviously R1, is there any other I could try?
Also, I suppose that it will be better to go chronological from A to D and not to jump between in rundowns?

[wind wren]

Does the loot table of consumables change at all with less players? Whenever i try something out by myself and dont bring bots, it feels like the game is just showering me with nades an tripmines

[latent obsidian]

The A tier of any rundown should be approachable for a beginner, but some rundowns will ramp up more quickly than others. I'd recommend going as far as you can into R1 then moving onto R2 if you get stuck. On the whole R4 and R5 are the hardest rundowns and R1, R2, R3 are on the easier side. But certainly go A first and then down to D, that letter is the biggest indicator of difficulty for a level

[native sun]

Nope no change. Possibly some kind of bias, as now you're the only player seeing every box, whereas in a group other players may be opening and grabbing stuff like that without you even seeing it.

[wind wren]

Is there maybe a change based on what tools were brought?

[muted palm]

Alright! Thank you very much!

[ocean spindle]

im pretty sure no matter the level and the conditions, its always the exact same

with, conditioned differences n rng n what nots

[fierce walrus]

Not as far as im concerned, just some levels have more of some consumables, other have more of diff consumables

[native sun]

My suggestion is start with R1 if you're in it for the long haul (you intend to play every level, and don't mind things starting out slow).
Or start with R6 (and then into R7) if you want to jump straight into the meat of things. R6 lined up with the games 1.0 release, so it (and R7) could be considered the most feature packed.

It's good to stick with a given rundown and try and clear it (A-D etc.), but if you find yourself getting stuck it's definitely a good idea to switch it up and try some early levels in a different rundown.

[wind wren]

I'm comparing it to my runs w bots, so I dont think that would be it (altough I ofcourse may just have missed the boxes with nades&mines in those runs)

[native sun]

Bots pick that stuff up, though you'd be the one opening the boxes for them so you'd probably still see em

[wind wren]

Actually, what's probably happening is I just dont pay attention at all to the boxes that are useless in my practice/fuck around solo stuff and only notice it when it's something special there so I think I see more of those better consumables and it's kinda a confirmation bias if you will

[muted palm]

I would want to do every rundown in game, but when I was checking #lfg-beginners, there were R1 to R7 and yeah, kinda didn't know if join or not 😅
I don't mind slow approach, I kinda prefer it honestly to slowly learn game then speedrun it through content without knowledge and experience

[latent obsidian]

have you dropped into any full levels yet?

[muted palm]

Only solo once R1 A1 to check how the game run and what to +- expect

[latent obsidian]

Cool, that is exactly what I was going to suggest doing if you like playing at your own pace. Good to spend a little time with bots finding directions and what to do on your own, and also getting to grips with the terminal commands (<- very important)

[native sun]

If it's in LFG beginners, then you are perfectly allowed to join it as a beginner. Though it's still good to be upfront and let the other players know that you're just starting out.

[muted palm]

Already tried and at least I know how to find keys and in what area. Died when was time to run back so at least I have this small experience from first level.

[latent obsidian]

Thats the important stuff then. Just helpful to know the process of working out where you are going via terminals so you don't have to rely on other players for navigation and resource location 🙂 Like Tru says feel free to venture into lfg-beginners, you can make your own post for R1A1 or join other A tier levels you see posted. Bear in mind even in lfg-beginners there will be quite a broad range of experience and probably even some experienced players that will hopefully be willing to explain and guide a bit

[muted palm]

I kinda hope that I find someone who will have some experience to guide me a little so things will go a little bit smoother and will get more knowledge than through trial and error, even the second thing may be more funny.
Alright, I will try to join in near future and hope that I will find my place here!

[wind wren]

Is there a way to see upcoming sales of the game? Asking for a friend

[hidden ridge]

It'll very probably go on sale in Halloween but if you want to check the dates https://steamdb.info/sales/history/

Maybe will even go in freeweek again

[sturdy glen]

Damn

[worn crow]

What level is best to practice ||Shadow Scout|| stealth kills?

[ashen frigate]

R7C3

[dry pumice]

Wut

[ocean spindle]

wah?

[dry pumice]

R7 maybe?

[ashen frigate]

yeah.

[ocean spindle]

an r7c3, it has a couple

[ashen frigate]

There are two in Overload, not far from the start

[dry pumice]

R6 has some but it's a lot of work to get there

[ashen frigate]

and surrounded by Shadows

[ocean spindle]

i thinnnk r4d2 has some on overload? its fast but theres a funny alarm right before it

[ashen frigate]

Yes, if you are solo R4D2 is a bit more of a hassle

[worn crow]

R4C2 has plenty but they're past several alarm doors

[ashen frigate]

R7C3 it is the Secondary layer

[ocean spindle]

the r6c3 is past several doors too i think

[ashen frigate]

but is much further

[sturdy glen]

R6d3 is easy

[ashen frigate]

Oh, that is the one

R6D3

Grab bulkhead, open Overload

Enjoy

[worn crow]

Awesome thanks

[past mesa]

Scout playground or cconsole

[worn crow]

R6D3 is enough for me, just want to practice a few times not labbing anything

[past mesa]

Understandable

[hidden ridge]

Is it possible for 204 in r2c1 to have 6 use of everything?

[ocean spindle]

i would think so but, i doubt its, common enough to even takke a screenshot of it

[past mesa]

Maybe I can’t check the blocks right now

[hidden ridge]

I'm paranoid I guess

[ebon jolt]

for Vanilla r7c3 bzt if you really wanna practice you can go into scout playground, Scouts or The Gym.

[worn crow]

Vanilla sounds good to me

[sturdy glen]

just stick with d3

[past mesa]

Cconsol is best

[ebon jolt]

oh yeah forgot about R6

D3 is faster to get to

[ebon jolt]

You could also play R4E1 with your team. You practice Tanks and you get a lot of shadow scouts in extreme and main. But I don´t know if you are at the point of playing an E Tier with your team.

[worn crow]

I'll play R4E1 normally, I just wanted to know which level is the fastest way to ||shadow scouts|| which you folks helped me with already

[ebon jolt]

If you play a bit of R4E1 you will also practice them a lot since there are alot of them. Even after they halved the amount

[haughty island]

What do you guys think is harder r5e1 with or without cell skip. Because for our team is easier and more enjoyable with cell skip.

[past mesa]

Cell skip is much harder

[haughty island]

Really?

[past mesa]

Yeah

[past mesa]

Did you bring boosters

[haughty island]

I think only i have some mute buster

[past mesa]

because it is hard because of the volatility of the situation.

Being on 15 health

[haughty island]

Yea but so fun

[past mesa]

Fighting with( low ish) not really ammo

[haughty island]

Like top.tier level

Yea ammo is problem

[past mesa]

It is very fun it isn’t easier

[haughty island]

Funny thing is that we beat this level like just pull up two mums and shoot

I check chill dide tactics with perma foam and my head exploded XD

And scattergun

[past mesa]

Oh scatter does make it different than before

[haughty island]

Or like tom pull up one

This is insane

[past mesa]

Moms aren’t really an issue with them but burst cannon did do as well

[past mesa]

Huh?

[haughty island]

Like before III class alarm where is cell you pull up moms and just perma foam. Than rush in the zone with cell, clear room and clear behind, close the door and the kill moms using scattergun. In like 3 seconds

Really funny

[past mesa]

Oh what team did you play with

True chill and who

@sturdy glen how did you get credit for this strat

[haughty island]

We have trio with bot

Yea i know bots is op

[sturdy glen]

I have no idea

ray also posted a video on it

[haughty island]

I just checked his videos om YouTube

[past mesa]

I am not butt hurt at all

[haughty island]

I loved your videos

[sturdy glen]

thanks ♥️

[haughty island]

Thanks you for teaching

[past mesa]

Definitely not mad at all that it was a collection of ideas

[sturdy glen]

yeah

of which I definitely contributed to

definitely

[past mesa]

Ofc

[sturdy glen]

(I had nothing to do with it besides opening obs)

[past mesa]

I think my idea was just kill mom during class 3 then true perma foamed?

I forget how it went

[civic wave]

Cell skip did gey easier with alt r6 because more resources

[sturdy glen]

?

[past mesa]

You mean the extra medi

[civic wave]

Like you shoot badly and still have enough ammo/tool that it's not scary at all

[past mesa]

No scatter made the biggest difference

[haughty island]

The best gtfo contributors is chiil dude Tom Peter and Darkeva

[civic wave]

I'm fairly certain you get more than just med

[haughty island]

Yeah and hinoki

[past mesa]

Wow @sturdy glen you made a crazy list

Right beside TOXIC PETER

[haughty island]

Ohh also nenpi from this guy i learned almost everything

[civic wave]

This reads like a shitpost

[sturdy glen]

I mean im laughing

[civic wave]

Nenpi taught me that giant/shadow kiting is likely to be the path of least resistance for solos

[haughty island]

Dont care that he is toxic that team is insane

[civic wave]

Which team

[hardy grotto]

toxic clique

[civic wave]

Is this the post-justin team were talking about

[hardy grotto]

extra tool too

more rss = level is easier yes

[civic wave]

What about Peter's spouse? Those 2 men have been with each other for a long time ❤️

[hardy grotto]

this is known

[sturdy glen]

remember guys, all you need for r5e1 cell skip is 4 hel shotguns and the ability to hold down lmb

[haughty island]

idk the team with which he played these speedruns

[civic wave]

Which speedruns

[hardy grotto]

these duos

[haughty island]

R2E1

[past mesa]

Robert Justin Peter Beth Rick

Not Beth for that one

[civic wave]

Ah, the Justin times

[past mesa]

I miss Justin

[haughty island]

Advanced communication XD

[past mesa]

He was the best of us

[civic wave]

Man is long gone, hope he's doing well for himself

[past mesa]

XD

[civic wave]

We need a toxic clique (and associates) tier list

[haughty island]

This thing i have learned from Toms korean guide how to play cell skip

[sturdy glen]

LMFAO

[minor fractal]

Hard disagree tbh. HEL Shotty is the sort of weapon I usually accept some frustration with to be sweaty. Not nearly as smooth-sailing as more granular options.

Fun when it pops off, but eh otherwise.

[hardy grotto]

so based

hes just so based...

[tardy ingot]

The discussion was based around clearing a blood door with one

[hardy grotto]

it feels more fun to burst drag enemies tbh

[minor fractal]

^

I might grant it's less fun when you miss, but that's just because it's actually kind of hard to land two bursts in a row on smalls.

It's good shit when you manage it.

[hardy grotto]

i had to hold r5d1 extract scan with just burst cannon and no bio

it was very scary

[haughty island]

Is killing two enemies from one melee hit pure skill or just lucky host client moment

[past mesa]

It is just skill

[sturdy glen]

its mainly skill

but you can do it by accident

[haughty island]

Okk

[sturdy glen]

also isnt host/client related

[civic wave]

I would ask a question but I already have the answer

[hardy grotto]

u know

[civic wave]

yes, I do know

although I do wonder what on earth happened to the other people in the lobby

like surely there's 3 other people who can each shoot

[past mesa]

How would the bio player not have bio

[civic wave]

she was talking in vc (only mute players can biotracker)

[hardy grotto]

u know jish

[whole grove]

When does the snatcher spawn, after killing the first one, when opening z542 in R5E1? 12 minutes.

[dawn tangle]

Ey quick question, is it okey if join one of the groups if I don't have a mic but use me in-game chat? I bought the game a week ago Soo I don't really know what's up

[whole grove]

change your server name to Zeven (mute)

[dawn tangle]

Alright thx

[dry pumice]

Or [no mic]

You are still encouraged to join the VC to at least hear what others are saying though.

[minor fractal]

Not timed.

Second snatcher spawns when you look (get the interaction text) at the final surge door.

You can pre-spawn it and kill it.

[whole grove]

Bastards, I didn't even know that was a mechanic in this game

[native sun]

There'd already been a lot of theory crafting surrounding different timings to pull the mom zone. And a lot of players had suggested or thought about similar strats. Though at the time I don't think anyone had really thought it was particularly viable - none of the speedrun teams were employing it.

Jish, Voidspace and I were the players who initially labbed the strat. I was the big advocate for the early pull and perma-foam, but Jish came up with running in to cell zone and doing the kill on that door. Jish, Ray, Chill and I then put it all together in an actual clear, which is the video you see.

All that said, that doesn't mean we were the first to do it. When I shared the strat with Hinoki they said that their team had already tried it but found it slower than their strat. I'd love to see their team revisit it though, they're definitely good enough to perform the mom kills with just 3 players, which should allow them to search for cell while it's all going on, in which case it should be significantly faster than just about every other strat.

[whole grove]

lol I complimented chill dude and said nice strat after I watched his video after he posted it on youtube

Supposedly, you can pull class 3 alarm door at disinfection station, climb up to 528 J, get them to follow you up and then when you drop down the ladder you can c-foam the ladder to get them stuck while running back to do the scans

[native sun]

I mean the whole point of doing a clear was to have something so that the strat could get seen - needed something to show the speedrun teams. Just glad it is getting viewed at all!

[past mesa]

It is the best normal way of clearing it

[whole grove]

How much damage does the scatter gun do to the tank?

[sturdy glen]

when do we start employing the sentry shooting a mom with the sentry person running to a different room more

[sturdy glen]

bout 280 damage ish

[past mesa]

I feel like it could do more

[whole grove]

Perhaps the scatter gun + hel shotty can eliminate the moms quicker on a speedrun

[sturdy glen]

wdym could

1 scattergun can just kill mom

[native sun]

This was indeed my loadout

[sturdy glen]

hammer + scatter and shes dead with no birth

[whole grove]

all hel shotty; scatter, 2 sniper, 1 hel rifle?

[native sun]

For R5E1? I think 'best' is scatter, sniper, burst cannon, high cal/hel rifle

4 hel shotty, maybe 3 hel shotty + 1 hel revo

[whole grove]

Yeah can't forget burst cannon

WHERE IS TOM, plz come back to us

all I see is TFT

[native sun]

He has been taken by TFT :(

[whole grove]

[whole grove]

I waited for the snatcher and then it was only until I got to the door then it game, lmfaoo; a few days ago when I got to the last surge alarm the snatcher busted our doors and then another time it 'came early' but now I know its due to the door text

[soft oasis]

does Player & bots means that a player can join mid game and replace the bot

[civic wave]

yes

the slot is preferentially filled by a player

if there is no player, it will be a bot

[soft oasis]

oh

so no player can join mid game

[native sun]

Players can join mid game as long as there is:

• an empty Players Only slot, or
• a Players or Bots slot with a bot.
  If the latter, they will replace the bot.

[craggy pier]

Can you leave the game with an object item

And softlock it

I pick up the bulkhead key and i leave the lobby

What happens

[ocean spindle]

think it keys it goes to the next person, tho ive been advice to not do it on my runs so im guessin its funk

on cells i guess they drop to the floor, but not sure

i never seen someone disconnect with one

[gleaming zenith]

It goes to the host

Tho i think res packs disappear until you re-enter so...

You can sabotage missions if you want

But why would you?..

[ocean spindle]

i mean also not really i doubt a single tool can change the direction of a mission lol

[gleaming zenith]

True true

[ocean spindle]

unless its like an E or somethin

[gleaming zenith]

Yeah just wanted to point out

Missions where res packs are immensely scarce

I can't remember which exactly, but somewhere there are like only 5 ammopacks on whole mission

so yeah

It would make it more difficult

[short badge]

are the bots good enough to rely on for most of the missions in the game?

[minor fractal]

Highly skill dependent.

There are specific levels that bots are terrible for, but well more than half of the content can be done w/ bots.

[short badge]

i see i see so struggling with r1c1 is a skill issue🥲

[past mesa]

just download better bots

: )

[minor fractal]

No, Jish, don't get them addicted.

They won't be able to stop.

And then they'll start coping about how it's fair and balanced in Media.

[craggy pier]

Personally I just downloaded better players

Helped me a lot with my aim

[sturdy glen]

at least getting carried requires some form of socializing

so better than the bots mod 👍

[ocean spindle]

no, no, c1 is probs the harderst r1 mission with bots

it requires good knowledge on, general strats of the level

and then kinda being, good at ur guns n stuff

[short badge]

i just run outta time collecting resources

[ocean spindle]

a strat can be, takin some tools and takin em with u to further zones, taking dmg on purpose so bots use their medis an grab somethin else [and procuring not taking much on later waves], nabbin not ammo limited weapons as dmr or others, using two sentries or even one on the first few waves to preserve ammo

two bursts one sniper one bio, or even 3 bursts dependin on the weaponry u have

having the bots on their optimal weapons... machinegun n burst rifle

and, other stuff im, forgettin probs, ah holding at the bridge with the hole in the wall

to have a better funnel

[short badge]

dang i was doing nothing right lol

i used 3 sniper sentries and a bio and gave them all the bullpup and revolver

[ocean spindle]

yeah bots arent best with revo, cause it requires very good headshot control and they can miss some shots or do bodyshots, plus a kinda small mag
bullpup is ok but its a very long reload for em
3 sniper sentries will really drain the ammo and not help for the big majority of the first waves since its a lot of small enemies, and gonna drain ur ammo quite abit

the bio is based tho

specially on a bot

[short badge]

i only put one sentry down until like wave 5ish

i thought they were most efficent, but ill try the 2 burst 1 sniper tho

[ocean spindle]

they were the most efficient on og r6, but they got a nerf in some of the alts
nowadays bursts are the most efficient, but the sniper really helps for the bigs to deal big dmg to em

[short badge]

ohh that makes sense, im returning after a bit of a break so im outta the loop, if i bring the sniper as special should i still bring a sniper sentry?

[ocean spindle]

umm i guess not, as long as ur able to hit shots pretty fast and reliably
otherwise id recommend a, lower dmg weapon but, still powerful and usable for smalls, like hel rifle or chokemod or burst cannon even if u control the recoil, and keeping the sniper sentry

this is, like me u have the skill issue lol

otherwise u can get away with 3 bursts probs

[short badge]

ive been able to keep the giants away, its usually getting swarmed for me thats the issue, but ill try with the diffrent bot loadouts to see if that helps and if im still struggling ill swap to that
thanks for the tips!

[ocean spindle]

yeh its oki, it can take some tries but if u see u consistently get pretty far, ur doin progress :3

[short badge]

last question

when u say machine gun for their loadouts, does it matter which one

[ocean spindle]

um not, really
i mean arbalist its bit more dmg but lower firerate, veruta is faster firerate more stagger and a bit less damage
so it, kinda just depends what u prefer more on em

they both shoot it on bursts either way

[short badge]

alrighty, i never really used them so i didnt know if there was a massive diffrence

[ocean spindle]

eh not a lot :]
i usually just have em on veruta

[hidden ridge]

Better bots is nothing like having actual good players IMHO

For one, even the most cracked cant headshot from 20meters in deep fog by tapping Veruta at least not as often as better bots do

Couple that stuff with all the borked stuff bots already have like "cant wake up enemies", "cant get infected", "cheats with bio"

Actual players are going to miss, no way around that shit

of course it'll scale down the more better bots are in the party

3 human+1 better bot or 3 humans+1 vanilla bot probably doesn't change much

On the other hand, actual players are going to actually DO things, and not just act like savants with 0 game knowledge and cheats on

But that probably doesn't matter for any map save for some, like maybe r7e1 is gonna be hard even with better bots I guess

In the games I sometimes do with better bots, I struggle to headshot shit before they do

I've seen them tap enemies from beneath catwalks ffs

[elfin lava]

can confirm better bots are fuckin busted, i saw the zombified initiative mod get updated but didnt play with bots since then, might be more balanced in some ways

can i somehow remove the zoom effect when aiming down iron sights? can't put a finger on what's bugging me abt my fov lol

or the fov warp idk how to call it

and maybe not remove but adjust it slightly 🤔

[native sun]

Through some QOL/visual mods yes! Check out Reflex or ZoomFOVAdjustment

[potent tiger]

are those limited halloween shirts available for purchase, or only obtainable through the poster competition?

[ocean spindle]

through the competition only

calle specified it

[elfin lava]

its perfect, tyvm

[rich nexus]

I'm about to ask an incredibly noob question, but are there any tips on how to hit sniper shots? Like enemy patterns where they are a bit easier to hit? (Namely referring to hybrids)

I struggle so bad to hit a headshot on those motherfuckers it's unreal

Asking this for R2D2 in particular

[civic wave]

when hybrids go to shoot, they normally put their arms to the side and raise their head in a predictable motion

other than that they should also slide on the ground in a predictable motion

if your team are spread out the enemy AI might move all over the place, and standing side by side will help prevent that

other than that all I can really suggest is practice

[rich nexus]

Gotcha...

One last thing then

I sometimes see people quickscoping in this game, I assume because it's easier to maintain aim on the head without zoom, does that affect accuracy or does it always fire a bullet where the little circle is in the middle of the screen?

[civic wave]

I think how it works is that as soon as you start the ads animation, your gun fires as if it was ADS'd

so with sniper it should always be accurate, but I have no fuckin idea actually

[rich nexus]

So in that case a fast zoom tap makes it more reliable... That helps

I'll fuck around with that

[civic wave]

more reliable then hipfire, yeah, should be the same reliabilty as scoping normally

[rich nexus]

I assume you mean the moment you hit right click, you can fire with consistent accuracy right?

No delay or anything like that

[civic wave]

ye should be

[olive robin]

I don't see much footage of scattergun is it just too situational

[rich nexus]

Awesome, I appreciate it brother

Hope I can one shot these annoying bastards with that

[lusty bramble]

The enemy stand still during attack click on the enemy before attack

[rich nexus]

Got it, will do, thank you as well

[rich nexus]

I actually second that question, I assume the ammo count is what drags it down

[sturdy glen]

scattergun is very very good at what it does

you just dont need what it does most of the time

or you want something else alongside it

[lusty bramble]

Better sniper rifle 🥰

[sturdy glen]

but uhh

I can say from experience with jish

you can run hel shotgun scattergun for

literally every level

[rich nexus]

The way you phrased that is hilarious lol

[lusty bramble]

I've experienced jish once...

Can't recommend ..

[civic wave]

you can get away with any loadout on any level if you're experienced enough, so that doesn't really mean much

[lusty bramble]

Trolls my r5d2s and then gets bread to message me his cengage questions

[civic wave]

although of course for some stuff you'd rather not be running those guns

[lusty bramble]

Rayalot is the only person I've seen use different guns...

[sturdy glen]

bbbbut

[lusty bramble]

People aren't even trying the smg...

[sturdy glen]

they beat the hardest level with 3 scatterguns!

(r1c1)

[tardy ingot]

[lusty bramble]

It's true eva

When are you going to use the smg

[olive robin]

How

[lusty bramble]

Because you have 3 other players

[sturdy glen]

you would be surprised

they contribute pretty heavily with that loadout

but it is still enabled

[lusty bramble]

No jish is just trolling

No kills

I've seen it in action...

Died to charger many such cases

[tardy ingot]

i already did beep

[lusty bramble]

You didn't eva

[tardy ingot]

whenever i solo i just play whatever

[lusty bramble]

There are not enough cases of this

[past mesa]

Smg is the best side arm

Wdym

[lusty bramble]

Every Eva stream it's carbine. Hel shotgun!

More smg please!

It has one of the highest precision damages in the main slot!

[civic wave]

0.9

[lusty bramble]

Crazy good

[olive robin]

Ok on a scale of 1-10 how good is the scatter gun hel shotgun loadout

[past mesa]

Because you don’t really need to shoot at far ranges

[past mesa]

8/10

[lusty bramble]

You are liar and I will report

Stop trolling !!!

[olive robin]

What's a 10/10

[past mesa]

Hel rev burst cannon/helgun

[tardy ingot]

will do
but only if ya remind me why

[lusty bramble]

I forgive you

[olive robin]

True

Not carbine?

[tardy ingot]

pff

[lusty bramble]

YUCK

[past mesa]

No pen is very strong

[lusty bramble]

ICKY CARBINE

Use the burst rifle ☝️🤓

[past mesa]

The ability to stagger/kill/dmg two enemies at once can not go unnoticed

[lusty bramble]

It can not go unnoticed.

[tardy ingot]

hel revo also has better synergy with hel gun generally
not that it matters too much

[past mesa]

Thank you beep

I need an echo

[tardy ingot]

but the wave clear can be insane with any line up

[past mesa]

To make it clear how important my words are

[lusty bramble]

Its not an echo it's reaffirming

Line up the smalls with hel autopops and get them with the hel rifle

It does 30.01 damage!

[past mesa]

I do try to convince them all to take it as well

[lusty bramble]

Eva I think you'd rate pr higher if you hit the kovaaks

[past mesa]

As host tho there is probs no point in running scatter gun

[tardy ingot]

kovaaks?

[sturdy glen]

how do we show ppl that pen is dumb and almost always applicable

[past mesa]

The spreadsheets they don’t take pen in to consideration

that is the best way

[lusty bramble]

It's right there

Pen 2

[past mesa]

XD

[sturdy glen]

but jish

hel rifle is a bad weapon without pen

clearly

[lusty bramble]

It is!

Many such cases

Time to use the choke mod

[past mesa]

Shut up beep. You lost the pen 4 hel rev

you ruined it for us

[lusty bramble]

I have not missed a single choke mod shot in my entire life

[past mesa]

Dirty macro user

[lusty bramble]

Only time I missed was because I was downed. Downed! By jish with scatergub

[past mesa]

Hear me out recently with hel shotgun scatter

I can play with one hand now

[lusty bramble]

Every hel rifle I play with they are always like Oops! Didn't use primary can I have ammo pack? 89 main 11 special!

[past mesa]

XD

[lusty bramble]

They should use the smg!

[past mesa]

They should

[sturdy glen]

smg hel rifle synergy goes hard

[lusty bramble]

The smg is for bosses

With the high precision damage

[dry pumice]

Dota 2 forum vibes here... Just a stream of nonsense.

[lusty bramble]

Shut up

[sturdy glen]

artek got it

holy shit

[lusty bramble]

Master (me) is talking

[sturdy glen]

im so proud

[past mesa]

Become based. Take hel ahotty scatter

[lusty bramble]

Jish says I bring knife it makes me depressed

[past mesa]

I don’t I bring shotty sentry tho

[lusty bramble]

Never uses the knife when I ask why not they say "for the smalls " but never kills smalls

Jish loadiuts are Bad! Many such cases!

[dry pumice]

Slow downed side observer view with neon lines representing shots.
Red = Missed
Blue = Single victim
Green = More than one victim

And just have it play out against a horde at half the speed

[past mesa]

Don’t worry I have another banger of a load-out hel auto pp hel auto sentry ignore your special gun so take something like PR then take bat

[civic wave]

I can't remember who the phrase "many such cases" reminds me of

[lusty bramble]

Me

I made the phrase

[civic wave]

it's one far right nutjob I'm sure

[sturdy glen]

the design is very human

[past mesa]

Many such cases

[civic wave]

but I can't remember which one

[lusty bramble]

I'm not far right

I'm centrist

I always have the middle opinion

[dry pumice]

This guy by any chance?
https://youtu.be/GM-e46xdcUo?si=dpBGEWDlea6g3BKV
Sounds like something he would say often

My first thought was of him

[lusty bramble]

You ask dauda what his political opinions are he says FAR RIGHT

Why would the devs do this

[past mesa]

Beep you look hot in this

Click now

[civic wave]

I have literally no clue who that is

[lusty bramble]

That's me

I was on star trek

[civic wave]

we should stop making up people and putting them on the tv, it's stupid

[past mesa]

Guys how do we feel about spear

[lusty bramble]

Very good!

[civic wave]

idk it's a thing I guess, I'm not here to debate spear I'm here to be told what I should cook for dinner

[past mesa]

I low key enjoy the pointy stick

[lusty bramble]

Why would you want weird arcs when you can actually hit the enemy you aim at

[past mesa]

Eat the collage classic

[civic wave]

I am not eating a collage!

[dry pumice]

Genuine question or memeing once again

[civic wave]

It's either a chicken wrap, chicken and chips, or pizza

probably pizza because that cooks the fastest, or maybe it's chicken wrap to use up chicken, hm

I could really do with a ration pack right about now

[lusty bramble]

Artek do not worry ill ctrl f your opinion on the spear

Yeah, good ol' spear and its' inadequacies.

x1.5 = 78.75 occi (current)
No interesting breakpoints were achived here compared to old spear, aside from the fact that the assisting hammer guy only needs 1 perfect backstab and then another quickie to finish a giant.

x1.6 = 84 occi
36 HP left over means that hammer can oneshot the guy outright after that, and another spear has to get in another backstab + quickie.

x1.7 = 89.25 occi
With a 31.75 HP leftover it means that both spear and hammer just need a single backstab to finish the guy. Potential two-hit combo in a solo duel, at which point spear FINALLY has something to show for itself.

There's bosses to consider, but i'm not sure how devastating that would truly be - need to run some calculations.
Frankly i can agree to x1.6 and another small buff to something else.

NO THIS IS BREAKPOINTS

IM RUIN3D

[sturdy glen]

nice spreadsheet nerd

[civic wave]

algebra monkey

[dry pumice]

Point still stands

[lusty bramble]

I don't own the spreadsheet

That's mountainface

Bat and Knife have their unique situational quirks, but spear is basically a downgrade except for comfort of use and like +30% extra damage on headshots, which doesn't actually change that much if you're really good with hammer.

There's another opinion

This is really easy to find

The library of artek

Compared to hammer spear has:

• Extra attack range
• SLIGHTLY more damage on headshots

• Lower bodyshot damage
• Lower stagger
• You can't spring while charging it (Spear is the only weapon to have that downside)
• It is currently the ONLY melee weapon that consumes stamina on shove attack

[dry pumice]

That one is ancient, pre-patch

[lusty bramble]

Hi artek what's your opinion on stamina

Gtfos stamina is actually fine. Its pretty generous and recovers pretty quickly so I don't really see the problem.

[dry pumice]

Hm, might be outdated.

[lusty bramble]

What about sentries?

Sniper can perform very well on maps with gigantic rooms and sightlines for days, auto sentry is a stagger machine and shotgun sentry is a hungry bastard that eats ammo too fast

[civic wave]

please stop talking about eating I still haven't gotten food, thanks

[past mesa]

Are these quotes?

From who

[lusty bramble]

Artek

Whatever question you have just look through his logs

[dry pumice]

Can confirm

[lusty bramble]

Very easy to find an answer

[sturdy glen]

gtfo chat gpt

[past mesa]

After is a good chatter

He speaks only the truth minor miss information

[civic wave]

i still don't know whether artek would prefer to call me pachi, or demon girl

in quotation marks

[dry pumice]

Either way here's another one for the Spear Archives:
Quick attack 2.0 > 2.5
Max prec x1.5 > x1.6
Charge time 1.7 > 1.5

After that it'll basically be in okay spot.

[past mesa]

“Demon person”

[lusty bramble]

That's a weird way to describe they/them

[past mesa]

XD

[civic wave]

emon

discord serach function sucks

why did it tab me back into this chat wtf

[lusty bramble]

Yeah I'm "d eman"

[past mesa]

you know me very transphobic! It says right there in my bio jish transphob

[lusty bramble]

I look at your bio and I see add friend

Can't believe you removed me

We're over

[past mesa]

Omg

It was the block bit

[dry pumice]

You people are exhausting.

[lusty bramble]

Wtf

[past mesa]

Thanks for giving your energy to us we feed off of misery

[lusty bramble]

Artek what's your opinion on beep

The "give them biotracker" was a joke. Ignore Beep - he's one of them internet chaos demons.

There was HALF truth to it, however. Give ONE of them biotracker. Whichever one you tolerate chatting the most (for me its Hackett and his scottish sass).
The rest... A choice between sentries and mines. Never give them cfoam. If you're bringing cfoam - just use it yourself.

IM THEY/THEM WTF

[dry pumice]

You're welcome.

[wind wren]

I give all of them biotracker
Makes me feel less lonely

[devout nimbus]

anyway to disable scroll wheel for swapping weapons

[past mesa]

Remove scroll wheel from your mouse

[queen schooner]

Hi all! I am very new to the game. I found some friends to play with and we got kind of destroyed in R1A1. I asked around and somebody told me to try to start from R6. So we did. We successfully completed the very first R6A1...then tried R6AX and got annhilated. Are we missing something? Is this game supposed to be this difficult even from the first missions? Also, what are the recommended loadout/tips and tricks that we should know?

I would be really grateful if someone can give me a steer because we love this game and we don't want to get kind of frustrated by not completing missions

just because we are missing some important info

[sturdy glen]

AX is technically harder than a regular A tier

[dry pumice]

X type missions are a little bit harder than their brothers in the same tier. Also that mission used to be BX. So you know... It's a trap, basically.

R1A1 is a very easy mission, you just did something wrong.
Yes, the game is that hard. You need to learn it.

It only gets worse from there.

[queen schooner]

ok thanks...at least we know what we are getting into

what about loadouts?

[ocean spindle]

:D

[dry pumice]

What about them?

[ocean spindle]

loadouts on guns pretty much, dont make much of a difference, u can pretty much use all of the guns and see which ones u like and u dont like

on tools tho its way more dependant on the level

[queen schooner]

I generally get a sniper rifle and a SMG, plus I use the foam, then I tell my friends to use one the scanner and the other two the turrets (mechatronic)

[dry pumice]

They're all mechatronic, I think

[ocean spindle]

theres two mechatronics u can call em by their normal name

[ocean spindle]

no only burst n shottie

[queen schooner]

which one is better?

[sterile citrus]

Burst

[dry pumice]

Burst wins every time

Too well rounded

Kinda imbalanced, but it is what it is

[sterile citrus]

Sniper/Auto/Shotty are all meh and level dependent IMO Sniper being the 2nd best.

[ocean spindle]

shotgun n sniper sentry can have their moments sometimes

auto is just a stagger sentry tho, not a dmg one

so its, way too niche

but is funny

:]

many hitmarkers go brr

[queen schooner]

we are shit anyway 😄

so I guess a little help won't hurt

[dry pumice]

How did you died in R1A1, exactly? What happened?

[queen schooner]

when we recovered the artifact the extraction point was far, so we tried to reach it while the horde was coming...we didn't deploy any tools because we thought we should move and not stay in the same position (is that assumption correct?) anyhow...in the end we ran out of ammo...

[dry pumice]

Artifact?

You mean the HSU?

[queen schooner]

yeah sorry

[ocean spindle]

if extraction appears yes it, its hsu lol

[dry pumice]

Alright so

Big refrigerator-looking HSUs are always just a scan, you don't carry them. You'll encounter the carriable variant later.

I still don't quite get it... You seem to have chosen the right course of action.

Do the scan and just leg for extractio while fighting through the enemies

So... Death by no ammo? How did that happen?

Um, have any of you guys used the terminals to scavenge for supplies?

[queen schooner]

yes

[ocean spindle]

my guess is they were at hsu with lil ammo already

by, wakin up some rooms or doin the alarm slowly

[past mesa]

Did you clear the zone? Before doing the hsu

[ocean spindle]

but, u were very close

[queen schooner]

we didn't do that enough apparently

[queen schooner]

yes

[dry pumice]

LIST PING, all that?

[queen schooner]

yep...

[ocean spindle]

listing the pings :D

[dry pumice]

Weeeeeird

[past mesa]

Ah interesting

[queen schooner]

we are just bad apparently

[dry pumice]

I'm having a problem imagining how would you run out of ammo on that level

[queen schooner]

😄

[ocean spindle]

maybs the alarm went for too long

maybs some rooms were woken up

maybs both

[dry pumice]

How did the 2 scan alarms go? did you used your tools right?

[ocean spindle]

i swear is not that weird

ksmdkm

i say it psitively

even me with some r7 levels still kinda almost died on that level

[queen schooner]

oh well...believe me it's possible

[past mesa]

It is surprising

[ocean spindle]

hey, if u got first try to the hsu thats above average tbh ksks

[queen schooner]

I think everything went well until the end

[queen schooner]

yay

btw...we are playing in VR

[ocean spindle]

yeh :]
u probs will already have it by next-

w wuh

a

[queen schooner]

so maybe there is that

[sterile citrus]

Ya that's just adding a huge challenge. This game is so limited in VR from what Ive seen on stream

[ocean spindle]

u know yeah i can believe u ran out of ammo more

yeah

[sterile citrus]

I dont think Ive seen 1 VR streamer do a single B+ tier mission on VR honestly :\

[queen schooner]

I will post a video soon...as I find the time to edit all that stuff. I think that the mod is pretty well made tbh

[queen schooner]

one day I'll be able to do it

😄

hopefully

I don't stream though

[sterile citrus]

Maybe its just cause the FOV is too close for the VR mod for GTFO but watching VR on that game makes me nauseous .

[ocean spindle]

iiii ddont know a lot about mods, but would probs just recommend u go in vanilla first
not for anythin but just to get used to the game itself

like, sneakin, resource management, even the guns

cause this game just, its very funky on all of that

and goin in an unofficial mod first its just a bit funky

its like startin out to parkour in minecraft in online servers, ur gonna, have some problems

[queen schooner]

yeah it is not for everyone I think

[queen schooner]

the only mod we have is just the VR mod

[ocean spindle]

um- yeah but i i mean the same thing

[queen schooner]

yeah...understandable the way you see it...but I don't play any flat games anymore. The immersion that VR gives you in unparalleled.

[ocean spindle]

flat games ksmdkm

i mean i dont say it just cause i dont like vr, but cause this game its already very appalling on its base form

it kicks u until u dont move anymore

and when it sees u say a word it justs send a horde on top of u

... i say appalling as its hard n shocking its a very good game i love it

but it hard

[timid grove]

anybody have any ideas to make pvp in gtfo (unmodded) more fun? ive already turned off certan hud settings so you cant see pepole throuh walls and we have rounds where its only certan wepons that can be used

[olive robin]

using only weapons that do low damage

gun damage is balanced around pve not pvp so a lot of things just melt you

[dry pumice]

Is only you using the VR or the whole team?

[timid grove]

i did do a round with hel outopistol only

[dry pumice]

Like full set - controlers and shit - or are you just playing on keyboard mouse with a helmet on?

[queen schooner]

the whole team

[timid grove]

killed everybody els myself 100 to 0% no 3rd partying

[queen schooner]

nope, with 6DOF motion controls

[dry pumice]

Hmmmmmmmmmm

I wonder if that got something to do with it

[queen schooner]

could be

[dry pumice]

Immersion is nice and all, but ultimately GTFO is balanced around the min-max tryharding of keyboard and mouse

[queen schooner]

aiming is less accurate I guess

we use more ammo

[dry pumice]

Yeah, exactly

[fast stag]

@olive robin Gun damage is not balanced around pve . In other ways, those gun damage from vanila is trash . They also add a Immortal in R7E1. They just made the gun become useless lol

[queen schooner]

but it is soooooo good, believe me

[ocean spindle]

what

[timid grove]

i can read the words but they dont belong together wtf are you saying

[ocean spindle]

lol dmg from vanilla is trash they say

lol

[fast stag]

yea it's trash what's wrong ? any problem

[ocean spindle]

they shouldve played since r1 when the guns didnt had any buffs on em

[dry pumice]

I'm certain, but it does introduces a lot of problems for your squad. The game will get REAL rough, real quick.

[ocean spindle]

was it sniper that did like 20 dmg or somethin

[dry pumice]

On a good note - i can't wait for your squad to make it to R1C1

Something tells me you might like that level

[fast stag]

@timid grove Go blind kid. You dont have to see . Funny comment

If you want to do the PVP just go fucking play valorant and CS:GO .Everyday i see you comment i just want to laugh in your mother face

[ocean spindle]

pvp is actually kinda fun

[timid grove]

learn to speak english befour you join an american server

[ocean spindle]

as long as u have some friendo to do it

is funky

[dry pumice]

International*

[timid grove]

ah

[fast stag]

@timid grove your english also need to fix kid

lol

show off ?

[dry pumice]

Just ignore him, i feel like he's trolling.

[ocean spindle]

yeah

[timid grove]

prob

[ocean spindle]

anyways what if pvp

r5b3 tile

long distance

• scattergun

or sawed off lol

[dry pumice]

You just close distance and the first to pull the trigger wins

[timid grove]

Both

[ocean spindle]

but its far :3

[timid grove]

scatt+saw

[ocean spindle]

u need to short distance but the moment u roll the corner and u find ur buddy ur gonna b on the floor lol

[timid grove]

wanna try it?

your gonna have to host cus i dont have r5

[upper ginkgo]

are you a real person

[timid grove]

maybe

[ocean spindle]

um me no sorry, im just chillin rn and im gonna get busy in a lil bit

[dry pumice]

Which one of them

[timid grove]

ok

[ocean spindle]

:3

[jagged shore]

How do you not have r5 wha

[ocean spindle]

the level ksdmkm

r5b3

[dry pumice]

He probably means he only has R5A1

[jagged shore]

Ah lol

[timid grove]

yep

[dry pumice]

Actually that does make it all the more weird

I understand if one of the vets was mega bored one day and decided to try to do a PvP

Yet you didn't seem to even finish the... "base game" before going down on the idea

[timid grove]

well

there was another game called risk of rain 2

when i 100%ed it it became a bit boring

[fast stag]

@dry pumice told ya

[timid grove]

untill i thouht of somthin

[tardy ingot]

before you try pvp in gtfo

try speedrunning

or solo/duo

[timid grove]

if i just change the game around a bit i can make it pvp

witch added replayability and fun into the game

and i relised i chould do the same here

[sterile citrus]

I mean PvP in this game when scatter does 256 FF dmg ;\ I just slide cancel rush you shoot you GG

[ocean spindle]

lol i suggested that one

[timid grove]

so whenever theres a time i dont wanna do rundowns i just do the pvp because you cant get mad

its all funny

and your all there for a good time

[tardy ingot]

dmr + scattergun

poke from range

delete from close

tho honestly

sawed off + sniper

is prob best

[timid grove]

high cal 2 shots

[fast stag]

End a round fast and quickly @tardy ingot

[tardy ingot]

?

[tardy ingot]

until it doesnt

[timid grove]

hes just mad

[tardy ingot]

im mostly confused on whether that was about the pvp or the speedrunning

cuz it works for both

[sterile citrus]

Choke Mod. Just BRRRR 4 shot. That chance of you doing 25 per is pretty much free

[dry pumice]

I don't know, feels like it would get old after a while. We don't exactly have any interesting mechanics going around, just aim and shoot. Even call of duty had to compensate with ASMR ding sound for when you get a kill and all that. Friendly fire is very anti-climatic in GTFO, no flare.

[timid grove]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[ocean spindle]

ksmdkm idk i tried a couple times and it was funny if u use certain weapons

[tardy ingot]

yea, like i pvp a lot for funsies when a level is about to be done or we gonna reset anyway

but its just a quick random thing

actual pvp is

[ocean spindle]

i dropped in a couple times just to do the pew pews and it was ok, we did it pistol and i always died but i had fun

plus no hud

[timid grove]

have you tried it with settings changes?

[ocean spindle]

so u only see with ur eyes and not with the overlay

[timid grove]

^^^^^^^^^^ good shit

[ocean spindle]

i also did a run where i had sniper n dmr and the other two friendos had a pistol i think and lol i was so stressed

i played so defensively

mostly cause i suck at aiming too

[timid grove]

try a main pistol only round

its super fun

[ocean spindle]

yeh :]
was funky

[verbal plume]

Ok, so I'm extremely new to the game and just recently picked it up so there's a little confusion with the rules here. When the rule says that you can't play old rundowns, does that mean any of the previous numbers or just the non-alt versions? For example, could I do an LFG for ALT 5, or am I stuck with just 6 since that's the newest?

[lusty bramble]

The developers DO NOT WANT you to play any of the previous alts

I made the mistake of playing alt r5 recently

[tardy ingot]

you are allowed to play all rundowns you have available to you

[ocean spindle]

soo this game used to work like fortnite seasons
when Rundown 2 came out, it replaced Rundown 1, Rundown 3 replaced Rundown 2 and so on, everytime a new rundown came the old one got eliminated
on Rundown 7 tho, the devs decided to bring the old rundowns back, and they did it the ALT://Rundowns, the old rundowns but slightly changed and optimized

[lusty bramble]

IM NOT FISH

[ocean spindle]

basically the rule its to not play, old versions of the game

[lusty bramble]

STOP POSTING FISH

🤯

[verbal plume]

Gotcha. Thanks

[timid grove]

🐟

[ocean spindle]

🐟

[timid grove]

🐟

[fast stag]

@verbal plume

@verbal plume Actually, there isn't really a way you can go to a website that has old map files available and download them so you can play again. But I'm not sure if that method still applies now.

[lusty bramble]

Whyd you @ me

[fast stag]

@lusty bramble I dont even call you ?

[lusty bramble]

You just @d me

[ocean spindle]

i saw it

[lusty bramble]

That's not cool man

[fast stag]

? what

[lusty bramble]

@ing me

[timid grove]

this guy today has been doing the angriest stuff. why did you @ him?

[fast stag]

@timid grove I dont even angry kid.

[lusty bramble]

??

[fast stag]

@timid grove Just waste of my time

[lusty bramble]

People don't read the rules anymore

You cant just do that

[timid grove]

see hes @ing me to

unbelevable

[lusty bramble]

Don't even try darkside... just wasting his time..

[ocean spindle]

this is so pogn't

[timid grove]

what is he gonna spend that time on though

[past mesa]

@lusty bramble kid I would fuck you up

[fast stag]

it's not even your problem why do you have to care ?

[lusty bramble]

Because you're @ing him??

[timid grove]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[lusty bramble]

Do not @ me

You gotta relax

[past mesa]

For you bio being shut up and act silently you don’t seem to follow it

Ngl

[lusty bramble]

LOL

[past mesa]

Maybe get a new slogan

[timid grove]

facs

[fast stag]

I just shut up when i need to do that

some reason i cannot do it

[past mesa]

Fatherless

Fatherless

[lusty bramble]

Then why is it in your bio

[iron wedge]

does matchmaking even work? pretty new to the game and cant get into any lobbies.

[past mesa]

No use lfg or bots

[timid grove]

no

[lusty bramble]

Yes!

[timid grove]

ish

[lusty bramble]

Just have to wait a little longer

[ocean spindle]

hello! u can check the LFG channels to share n join lobbies! the instructions are in https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/653623062964731920

just some advice!
always ask to not be carried, make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
and in case u havent be sure to do the tutorial first [Training] and start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one

[past mesa]

XD

[timid grove]

do you have a spair 4 hours?

[lusty bramble]

Wtf is this

[lusty bramble]

hello! u can check the LFG channels to share n join lobbies! the instructions are in https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/653623062964731920

just some advice!
always ask to not be carried, make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
and in case u havent be sure to do the tutorial first [Training] and start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one

[ocean spindle]

so real bepaso