gtfo-related-questions

[dry pumice]

It needs more bullets. Like a lot more.

I think another 400 should so the trick.

[craggy pier]

Might be too much

[latent obsidian]

Probably the maths and testing on this has been done already

[icy cave]

1k more

[dry pumice]

Just make it exactly 1000 bullets at 100% and we can start experimenting from there.

[latent obsidian]

But I wonder how 2 burst compares to 1 burst one auto for holding a wave

[dry pumice]

What is it right now? 700?

[craggy pier]

701 or something

750?

Somewhere round thete

[dry pumice]

751

[craggy pier]

Hah

I was half right twice

[dry pumice]

1000 bullets is an exactly +33% improvement.

[craggy pier]

One thousand bullets in a single gun sounds fun.

[icy cave]

Just give it 4k bullets

[dry pumice]

Big enough to get close to fixing it, and then we can experiment more from there.

[craggy pier]

+33 is a big percentage

[dry pumice]

And even then Mr Chill said he wouldn't use it even if it was infinite, but I don't think he thought it through.

[craggy pier]

Then again burst consumes like 3x less ammo because hesdshots

[latent obsidian]

I'm gonna go off half dick here but the problem with auto sentries is that after they can't stagger the wave any longer enough enemies will pass them almost as if they weren't there. With an extra burst sentry it could help reduce enemy numbers enough for the auto sentry to stagger a larger amount of enemies, PERHAPS while being more tool efficient. This will also dribble a few more enemies towards the team who can spend some ammo to get the tool/ammo more on par than if you had 2 burst sentries doing everything

[dry pumice]

Doesn't matter

HEL sentry works best in a tandem with other sentries.

It holds the wave and the other sentry massacres it.

[craggy pier]

X

[dry pumice]

But in return for such a niche function it really should use like no tool at all

[icy cave]

Which is dumb

[dry pumice]

I did that in... R3B2 I think? Spread the cells.

One or two guys made it past.

[latent obsidian]

Really bringing auto sentry is only gonna make you spend more ammo and maybe less tool, in theory? But there aren't really many times you are actually rationing tool like that

[craggy pier]

Wait guys holy shit idea

What if we lowered the fire rate instead

It can easily stagger due yo the massive multi even at a lower rpm

And it won't use up as much ammo

But it will still stagger perfectly

[dry pumice]

Eh, I guess it could work.

But personally I just really like the sound it makes.

[craggy pier]

Lie to us

[dry pumice]

I feel safe when i hear the brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt.

[craggy pier]

Reduce rpm keep the sound

[icy cave]

Not an argument for taking it

[craggy pier]

I think this could work

Lots of stagger gets wasted rn because it keeps shooting tons of ammo while the enemy is already in soft stagger

Reducing fire rate will allow it to use the stagger more efficiently

[latent obsidian]

It should rotate its firing angle back and forth like a garden sprinkler

[craggy pier]

I also like that idea

I think i suggested it before

Artek told me no because he's a meanie head 😡

[dry pumice]

Did I? I like that idea too, although it might have some issues.

Does it still do that when there's only one enemy? What about fliers? Does it lose ability to shoot vertically?

[craggy pier]

You said something like

"We aint getting more reworks, this IS the rework"

Talking about hel and bodyshot

[icy cave]

That was just realism. not disagreeing per se

[dry pumice]

I'm just saying devs are not putting more work in

[craggy pier]

I think it should have a 0.01s lock on time and switch targets when they stagger

Code it in

Ship it to live

Easy dub

(clueless)

[icy cave]

The devs will not leave the game with balanced sentries (or melees). Just prepare yourself for that

[craggy pier]

Like make it unable to target staggered enemies

That sounds simple enough

I think

As a non programmer this sounds like an elegant solution

[latent obsidian]

I mean they had a problem for a while where the burst sentry just missed chargers, right

when their head got blown off?

[craggy pier]

Idunno

[icy cave]

wasn't that snipe?

[latent obsidian]

Maybe both, I recall seeing a video where the burst was missing on a charger wave

but it might be cherry picking an elevation thing idk

[icy cave]

I mean it could be. nothing surprises me at this point

[craggy pier]

We have to believe

[icy cave]

checkpoints are also still not fixed

Almost 2 years now boys!

[latent obsidian]

checkpoints are worse in some respects

I've had way more desync and late opening issues with them recently

[soft crater]

When will we get the FireBlade?

[icy cave]

you are still new and naive 🥹 poor innocent soul

[icy cave]

There ya go. Just remove em from the game. you ain't fixing em. be real

[icy cave]

R69

[soft crater]

[latent obsidian]

With those issues the "just ignore them" argument doesn't even work any more. You don't need to use them to get screwed over

[icy cave]

Mah man there is a mod that adds checkpoints to the Alts . Want to break more of your game???? here ya go !!!

people need a kick in the nuts sometimes

[craggy pier]

I'm not new to devs not doing what's necessary for games

Believe me

I get it

[hidden ridge]

I think I remember someone else saying it'd be probably best to make it like a shotgun

And I also kinda agreed

[craggy pier]

It would make sense

Shotgun is also kinda shit

It misses a lot

[hidden ridge]

so that you're sure that it's gonna slow nearly all of the wave if placed correctly

[craggy pier]

i think the idea of not allowing it to target staggered enemies is the best possible thing they could do to it

it would solve basically everything about it
No more ammo wasted trying to stagger already staggered enemies
Can hold back the wave substantially better because it staggers many enemies and not one

and the speedy lock on time i suggested would make it so nothing could get past without catching some lead

probably really hard to code it though

[olive robin]

Replace auto sentry with radial sentry

It just shoots 360 stun

[dry pumice]

It was Eva me thinks, and basically the idea is to fuse shotgun sentry and HEL sentry into one.

Just copypaste stagger, hel and body aim to shotgun and its a win

[meager lion]

Depends, you could just code that it looks at "Agents (enemies) that are not in stagger animation" in it's field of view and targets an unstaggered enemy at random (or closest) until that enemy staggers which then resets the targeting and the cycle repeats. Doesn't seem that hard to me from a programming standpoint, but hey, I'm no game dev 😅.

[ocean spindle]

not even to code but same as how shotgun sentry shoots at corpses, aauto sentry would do the exact same

...

i just arrived

it is about auto right

[spark lodge]

hi, must we clear all other maps in R4 to be able to play R4E1?

[ocean spindle]

yep

u dont need all sectors but all maps completed

[meager lion]

Shotgun Sentry shooting corpses, oh I have truly seen that many times. If you add a small check if the targeted enemy is alive or not before shooting it would probably fix it xD

[ocean spindle]

it does, its just too fast

[spark lodge]

😭

thanks

[ocean spindle]

:3

[meager lion]

Oh lol

[ocean spindle]

theres a reason all sentries dont just keep aiming at corpses

same happens with auto but, harder cause it doesnt kill a lot

and u never see it with sniper or bursts cause those shoot not so fast its a problem

[meager lion]

Hmm I see, so the command to fire a shot comes after the check if its alive but if it dies in that time the shot still goes through. Is that correct?

[ocean spindle]

i idk the specifics i mean i talk from what i see ingame
i woul guess thats the case but shottie sentry is really the only one i see it happenin to

[meager lion]

Again, im no gamedev but its interesting to me xD

Ah yeah

[dry pumice]

The host - yes, the clients don't have any requirements.

[spark lodge]

oh i see, thank you!

[craggy pier]

yes, but if someone has already done that you can just join the lobby
Only one person needs access to r4e1 for a group of 4 to play it

[icy cave]

for E's you need to clear all mains

no matter the rundown

But if other maps are a problem... you not ready for E1 tbh

[wind wren]

I just had a giant striker go for the tongue attack and then immediately melee smack me when I went in for the hit, can they actually do that or did I misread the animation?

[ebon jolt]

they can

happens all the time

I am not sure if they are supposed to do so tho

[wind wren]

These 7 letters cause me severe pain

Thanks for confirming : (

So is there even a actually safe way to 1v1 them w bat if I cant stay behind them? Softstagger doesnt seem to last long enough for bat to recharge

[dry pumice]

Bait the melee and strike between animations.

[wind wren]

But if this is a thing, doesnt that just not work sometimes then?

[tardy ingot]

@civic wave

[civic wave]

you

[wind wren]

I know that's the best way to do it but if they can smack me anyway after I baited the tongue animation. Doesnt it mean I just kinda have to hope sometimes?

I've never had this issue w hammer cuz limbbreaks but w bat I'm not good enough to get limbbreaks on all hits

[dry pumice]

No, not tongue animation.

Bait the melee.

[wind wren]

Oh

[dry pumice]

You bait them into going for a punch and dodge by pixels of hitbox.

[wind wren]

I read it as bait then melee my bad

[dry pumice]

Then you just wait and go for a smack when he stops.

[wind wren]

Alr I'll try that instead of baiting tongue

[dry pumice]

I did that once, I think.

It's a lot of work and not worth it.

[wind wren]

So Im better off baiting tongue and just hoping?

[dry pumice]

No, you're better off not using bat.

[wind wren]

Damn

[dry pumice]

You pick bat or dagger and you're excluded from giant parties, unless as a backup.

[ocean spindle]

lol

[sturdy glen]

Pretty sure you can still play chicken with bat

[ocean spindle]

u can play chicken with knife

[dry pumice]

You can, but it's risky.

[sturdy glen]

Just need to swing early

[dry pumice]

Dodging that 40 dmg by pixels.

[sturdy glen]

Client is always funny

Nah

I mean just hitting them

Never bait melee

Even as host it's a waste of time

[dry pumice]

So just stunlock them, you mean?

[civic wave]

melee bait normally only happens if you're fucking up

otherwise you can just hit and run with staggers (if needed)

[sturdy glen]

Not exactly stunlock

Just spend all unstaggered time out of melee range

and smack them everytime they try to do something

[dry pumice]

Well, that's what the guy was trying to do, and he gets punched anyway.

[civic wave]

that's probably not down to the big striker, tbh

[sturdy glen]

Failed execution

[dry pumice]

Because kiss cancel is a thing apparently

[sturdy glen]

It is easier with hammer cuz of range

But if you swing early it should never be a problem

[wind wren]

Exactly

[dry pumice]

Early relative to what

[civic wave]

there are times where you can have an enemy lick and punch at the same time

but it's quite hard to do

[sturdy glen]

The timing with hammer

You can play chicken in this game

And always win

That's just how it works

[wind wren]

Well it happend to me twice in the span of 5 mins (tbf I've never used bat against giant b4 except with 102%meele boosters so it might be skill issue)

[sturdy glen]

I can show you what I mean in like 2 hours when I'm out of class

It's especially noticeable with bbcs

[ebon jolt]

baiting meele as client is kinda fucked you have to get used to it. But as host it isn't that hard

[sturdy glen]

Just

DON'T

[civic wave]

there isn't really a circumstance in which you're forced to bait melees

[sturdy glen]

I swtg this is how you get your teammates killed

Exactly pachi

The only time you do it is hybrids

[civic wave]

I mean sure if you're playing OG r4e1 and need to kill a giant right by a door while code searching in zone 515 and mess up your hammers, go bait melees to avoid scream and room wake

[sturdy glen]

Because they're little bitch babies

[civic wave]

Otherwise wtf are you doing

[sturdy glen]

And even hybrids it's just for solo no scream

So niche

[civic wave]

I still melee bait hybrids because it makes it easier to hit occi/kill them faster

also stops them from spewing

[sturdy glen]

Faster is fair but it's still unnecessary

Can already do the same thing as giant melee

[civic wave]

100%

you go in, get a hit, go hide, run in when it's safe

[sturdy glen]

Byeah, idgaf if ppl want to be right and say it is useful (not directed at you pachi), but please never make the advice to a new person trying to melee a giant be bait melee

It's just horrible advice

[civic wave]

I'd never suggest anyone go melee bait a giant

terrible idea if you're going for a kill, you only do it if stuff is going wrong and you need to stop scream

[ebon jolt]

but you should be prepared for it. It can save 40hp

[civic wave]

idk that sounds like being prepared to die to a vending machine when getting a snack

[sturdy glen]

How

[civic wave]

in normal circumstances the giant won't get to punch

[sturdy glen]

When tf does it save you

Just don't be in melee range??

[dry pumice]

The mans using a bat, so...

[civic wave]

where's badger when you need him

the man would have a solo 2 giants in a row clip with every melee

[upper ginkgo]

anyone melee bait giants so they can reposition to shoot their back?

[civic wave]

no, i just shoot them because there's enough ammo in the mission to shoot everything 👍

[upper ginkgo]

i'm not spending an extra bullet for long stagger

add it to the style guide

[sturdy glen]

I only shoot the giant hips

[civic wave]

stop repositioning to the back, too fancy

[sturdy glen]

So I break no limb

[upper ginkgo]

shooting giants w/o back damage physically pains me

[soft crater]

newbies full autoing helpp into giants from the front and then complain gun bad

[past mesa]

Got it

Section 14a will be this

[vague bridge]

🔪

[sturdy glen]

@wind wren #gtfo-media message

[ashen frigate]

The stagger-machine

[dry pumice]

Feels risky

But apparently works, so...

[ocean spindle]

and with no back dmg

cause i think u break limbs with one hit with back dmg

[dry pumice]

Bat doing bat things.

[sturdy glen]

if you swing early

it will always work

its scary yea

especially as client

real answer is just not bringing bat

hammer you dont even get fucked over by being client/is a lot less scary

[neon gust]

but its a sidegrade from hammer

[sturdy glen]

spear you dont have to be in range period

just gotta aim for limbs

I would showcase playing chicken with giant chargers sprinting at you

but I cant think of any levels with early ones

[wide mirage]

yo we have a guy whos been afk for like 20 min any ideas of what we can do to continue the mission without leaving

or ways to kick him

[dry pumice]

Unfortunately not a thing without a mod.
If he's really gone - your best bet is to restart the mission, really. Nothing you can do otherwise - door scans require full team always.

[slow stone]

Can you shut down the ||overload error alarm|| on r6d3?

[ashen frigate]

Yes

[slow stone]

How do we do that :D

[ocean spindle]

dyin :D
jk

[ashen frigate]

Well, you are supposed to type in a DEACTIVATE_ALARMS in a terminal

There are two such terminals in this expedition

But one of them is a bit faster to get to :)

[slow stone]

Alright, which ones are they?

Or where are they located ^^

[ashen frigate]

Well, there is one three zones inside the Main security door

and another one two zones inside, but you need a key to get to it

(the key being further inside :) )

[slow stone]

alright, thanks for the help!

[past mesa]

The zone after the tank zone

Has two security doors

A class 6 shadow and a free door if you have done overload

The free door has the deactivate alarm terminal

[slow stone]

Do you know the zone numbers or is it possible to go wrong way? were running this first time with a frind so dont want to completely go wrong :D

[ashen frigate]

What Jish said, basically

Once you get through the big sleeping room, keep on further. On your right you will find a door with an alarm, but push ahead. Then on your left another one should be unlocked at that point

[modern bane]

Anyone know if theres a fix for bots not entering a scan?

I play with 3 people and 1 bot, and occasionally we get a 4th person in

But we can't do R4C1 because the bot keeps refusing to enter the Class V alarm scan

Happens randomly- sometimes the bot functions and sometimes it doesn't. Seems 50/50

[ocean spindle]

the host press ESC, puts the option to 'players only' or 'locked' kicking the bot, and then do the scan as is or re-add them puttin the option back to 'players and bots' or 'bots only'

it like resets em

[slow stone]

Yup we found the room with class 6 alarm and inside was an key, could find the next zone tho :D

[ashen frigate]

Zone 292

Has the other Terminal

It is initially locked, when you start the Expedition, but if you complete the Overload objective it unlocks, and allows you to stop the ongoing Err://Alarm

[past mesa]

There is only two doors if the door is the class 6 it is the other one

Binary choice here

[remote crest]

coming back after a long break, what are the rundowns that can be finished solo with bots and what aren't?

[ocean spindle]

with bots... only r1, maybe r3 but c1 its hard as fuck

and, thats it i think

[past mesa]

pretty much you can do every level but e tiers get a tad you need at least one other player

[hidden ridge]

r3c1 is doable with vanilla bots

r3d1 IMHO ain't but whatever

[ocean spindle]

it is but its hard

[remote crest]

dam only those, guess it's going to get crazy after r1

[hidden ridge]

vanilla bots I think it's r2 until r2d2 (I think someone did r2d2 with vanilla bots, still have to see a r2e1), all of r1, r3 until r3d1, r4 you can pe everything up to r4c3

I assume r4c1 extreme and r4c2 pe are doable with vanilla bots but I never tried

[ocean spindle]

problem is some levels are doable, but not hard, the next thing after

specially w/o full knowledge of gtfo and a lot of skill

R1 with bots its, fine enough, u can do it, c1 is gonna be a challenge but u can do it

[hidden ridge]

yeah of course

[remote crest]

I'm still going to attempt all solo with bots but I'll be more careful on the suggested ones that are hard thanks!

[hidden ridge]

Basically if Url wants to do all of the game with vanilla bots, yeah no.

[kindred storm]

Heya
4th round and we didnt win yet
what do artefacts do?
what are some base tips of you guys?

[tardy ingot]

It rly depends on how good you are personally, how much you know bots and if you intend to do minor cheese

[remote crest]

my main problem right now is how to handle Tanks solo if you guys got any experience about it

[tardy ingot]

cuz most levels can be done with bots

[ocean spindle]

artifacts give u some help, they are items that after u collect a certain amount give u boosters

and some base tips
well practice stealth, if u see ur wakin up a lot of rooms

do the training of course if u havent

um try out every gun cause they all got uses

and dont try to go all guns every room, cause that usually leads to death

[hidden ridge]

of which expedition?

[kindred storm]

the first one should be R1A1 ?

[craggy pier]

if you want you could just bring cfoam and mines for the alerts and deal with them like that

[hidden ridge]

Enemies spawn 2 rooms away from you, and try to go through as less rooms as possible, prepare accordingly (during 1st alarm they can only come from 1 door, foam and mine said door, mine only is fine but whatever)

Scouts die with full bonk to the head (if hammer jump before hitting) if you dont want to test your chances you can stealth kill as many enemies you can then sniper the head off

[kindred storm]

but r1a1 is the first mission yes?

[craggy pier]

yes

[hidden ridge]

yes

[craggy pier]

also you do not necessarily need to kill sleepers

[hidden ridge]

For the second alarm they're only going to come from the very big door, so foam and mine that door (you can do the first scan with all the team, then foam guy goes to the door they're breaking and keeps foaming it to earn even more time, while the other 3 do the scans)

Near to the key zone there's a zone with no enemies and some extra resources, go there if you're dry on shit

Afterwards ||get to the HSU, scan, then go back to the start while fighting the enemies that spawn||

[craggy pier]

also terminals

i hope you know how to use em cause they help lots

the best command in this game is "LIST U [ZONE]"

[kindred storm]

not rlly

we only play 1h

[craggy pier]

It'll show everything that's usable in a zone

you should spend some time learning the commands

they cut down on searching a lot

and that means you need to go in less areas, kill less sleepers, less chances to mess up

[kindred storm]

do enemies get stronger the mroe ppl are in the lobby?

[craggy pier]

Nope

[ocean spindle]

no

[craggy pier]

QUERY [ITEM] will show detailed information about an item regardless of where it is
LIST [FILTER] [ZONE] will list all the items that fit the filter in a zone
PING [ITEM] will show you exactly where an item is, if you're in the same zone as it

these are the three golden commands

[kindred storm]

whats the filter?

[craggy pier]

anything you want

RESOURCE, DOOR, PACK,

SECURITY

[hazy wedge]

Like if you want to list something specific like List Key or List Cell

[craggy pier]

Any tag that an item can have like security, passage, resource

or any part of an item's name

[hazy wedge]

[kindred storm]

idk the names we to new xd

[craggy pier]

So if you do like
LIST RESOURCES
It'll show you all the resources available during your current expedition

it used the filter to show you only consumable packs like ammo, health, tool

you can also shorten filters. LIST RES is the same as LIST RESOURCES

[hazy wedge]

You can also shorten the word Resources to just Re for faster output

What he said lol

[craggy pier]

👑 LIST U E_XYZ 👑

[kindred storm]

whats that

oh damn so much "hacking" xd

[craggy pier]

LIST U(anything usable like resources or keys) in E(short for zone) with whatever number

[sturdy glen]

list will filter anything that has an exact match to the string you entered

this goes for as small as you want it to

[hazy wedge]

It also works on objective items. If you are looking for personell ids, you can do List PID zone_#/e_#

[sturdy glen]

so typing a single letter will filter anything with that letter in it

however this goes for every part of the item, which items have a couple parts in the terminal

[hidden ridge]

list E_201 will also list key_purplE_201 and so on

[sturdy glen]

item name, type of item, location/zone_number

[craggy pier]

also press tab to autocomplete commands or item names for less time spent typing and less typos

[hidden ridge]

rare but can happen

[sturdy glen]

it will try to match from all of the parts

[hidden ridge]

If you want to be 100% sure you can LIST RES ZONE_XX (instead of XX put zone number)

[sturdy glen]

so you can combine things, like they are saying

[hidden ridge]

like LIST RES ZONE_11

[sturdy glen]

ie you can search for a specific item type inside a specific zone

[hazy wedge]

[sturdy glen]

or you can search for any item with a specific letter in it in it in a zone

basically, its very open ended

query and ping on the other hand are not

they require exact match of an items name

[hazy wedge]

And if you forget any of those, just type commands/cmds into the terminal

[craggy pier]

query also shows a bunch of information

foooor example

You list the resources in a room with a bunch of sleepers. There's ammo there. Is it actually worth it to try and grab it?

Querying the ammopack will show you how many uses it has, which can greatly improve your decision making

Could be a 1 use or a 4 use and you have no idea, but the terminal knows

if it's 1 use, might as well leave it alone. If it's 4, definitely worth it

[hazy wedge]

And when you ping the item, it will show you the area letter, and if you add a space and “-T” it will do a continuous ping of the item

[past mesa]

the most useful command

[hazy wedge]

[craggy pier]

id argue list is just peak terminal hackerman

[past mesa]

def not annoying to use

[jagged shore]

I wish so much that it would continue pinging after you've left

[hidden ridge]

I NEVER teach that shit to people exactly because I dont want anyone to use that

[craggy pier]

Drop in, list U, query everything, you now know where everything is

[past mesa]

!!!!!!!!!

best idea in this chat so far

[craggy pier]

list or ping

[hidden ridge]

ping -t

[jagged shore]

Ping -t

[craggy pier]

ping t sucks

you need to stay on the terminal and it's boring

[hidden ridge]

I had a guy in og r4c3 ping -t while he wanted me to stealth the zones and get the key

[past mesa]

it sucks to use it sucks to be on the reciving end

[hidden ridge]

was like 4 rooms of me hearing a distant ping while hacking locks

for fuck's sake

[past mesa]

^^^^^^^

[sturdy glen]

idk why they made -t require you to sit in the terminal

[hazy wedge]

That must be lovely

[sturdy glen]

terminal storage would be so fucking funny if it didnt

[hidden ridge]

I woke up the last giant

[sturdy glen]

you would HAVE to return to the terminal to turn that shit off

[hidden ridge]

and I was "nice so we can wipe"

[past mesa]

the only time i have used -t is to annoy the fuck out of my team mate by constant ping a cell they are carring

[craggy pier]

idk why they made PING in GENERAL require you to stay on

[sturdy glen]

terminal storageee

[craggy pier]

some guy has to be the terminal bitch sometimes

[sturdy glen]

it makes sense for terminals in general

they turn off when you go away

[past mesa]

terminal stroage is the best thing in the game

[hazy wedge]

Omg I didn’t know you could do that

[past mesa]

hands down

[hidden ridge]

ping -t should do what it does but only the sound effect like 1 time every 4

[jagged shore]

A ping doesn't interrupt if you get off what?

[craggy pier]

good its basically useless

[hazy wedge]

[craggy pier]

it does

[past mesa]

if you leave the terminals active range without storing it

it does

[craggy pier]

funnyness

[jagged shore]

Ohh that's different from the you have to be at it that -t has to me

[sturdy glen]

the command running

is what we are referring to

[craggy pier]

also

i really like the touch that far away objects drop pings sometimes

[kindred storm]

how does the HSu look like

[craggy pier]

Big coffin

in a steel frame

it's the same thing you drop in on

[hidden ridge]

a dystopian bed

[craggy pier]

honestly looks comfy

like a poof

[hidden ridge]

I'll admit it looks a bit comfy

[hazy wedge]

I mean you get dropped in a mission in an open HSU so it has to be comfy

[craggy pier]

no it doesnt

nothing needs to be comfy in gtfo

[hazy wedge]

[hidden ridge]

I want I mod where I get out in my PJs

[hazy wedge]

[kindred storm]

can i somehow locate it better then just the zone?

[hidden ridge]

ping command only works if the thing you're pinging is inside the same zone as the terminal you're trying to ping it from

so no, either get on a terminal that allows you to ping it, otherwise query is all you can do

[kindred storm]

is there any sort of leveling?

[hidden ridge]

no you only unlock cosmetics

you get boosters but they go away when you use them, whether you finished the map or not

[kindred storm]

we did it
r1a1
it says completed 1, - ,- ,

whats that

[hidden ridge]

long story short you can ignore that for r1-2-3

sector completions [MAIN, SECONDARY, OVERLOAD, PRISONER EFFICIENCY] but only rundowns 4-5-6-7 have sectors

[kindred storm]

the artefact heat?

[worn crow]

There's a pretty detailed explanation on the wiki if you google it

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Artifacts

[dry pumice]

Its a completion counter.
Main, Secondary, Overload and Prisoner efficiency.
First 3 rundowns literally don't have any secondary objectives, so they are forever X,-,-,-, so you can forget about it until you hit Rundown 4.

[craggy pier]

This game's leveling is similar to sekiro

The human behind the weapon gets better, the gear stays the same

[craggy pier]

They really went crazy with r4s secondaries

[dry pumice]

Eh... I wouldn't say that, you can upgrade damage and all that in Sekiro. But overall seems accurate.

[craggy pier]

The closer to 100%, the more progress each artifact contributes towards boosters

[tardy ingot]

up to 0.15 (15%) per picked up articact of that type

[craggy pier]

The closest thing to "leveling" this game has are boosters

They're one time use (usually) and give some sort of buff

They can get quite strong

I was actually shocked when I first opened the game and had access to everything

I thought you'd unlock guns through gameplay

I also expected levels to be randomised

Im new, where is this code im supposed to copy from the matchmaking screen?

[ocean spindle]

when ur matchmakin the button is hidden, cancel it and hold in 'create lobby' instead

then theres a button to copy it at the very right of the screen

[craggy pier]

Oh ok

Thanks

[ocean spindle]

if u wanna join a lobby from a code, just copy it and go into gtfo, there, under TRAINING the button to join should appear w/o needin to paste it anywhere

[soft crater]

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[icy cave]

12 levels 12 secondaries. R5 has a lot as well

[elfin lava]

why do my sniper rifle headshots not instakill regular big strikers occasionally? not sure if the falloff range can affect it but they were definitely within 60m

[latent obsidian]

You might be hitting too low down on their neck sometimes. It still removes the head but you missed the weakspot

[elfin lava]

oh, that could be it, the head being gone made me unsure whats the issue

also, i just got a mod that lets me see the actual stats of the weapons, the sniper has penetration on it like the hel weaponry?

[latent obsidian]

No, the sniper doesn't have pen

[elfin lava]

huh, shit mod

wait nvm im just confusing the abbreviations it uses lmfao, my bad

thanks!

[latent obsidian]

np 🙂

[craggy pier]

It's most definitely a shoulder hit

You blow a chunk out of the giant (and also remove the head in the process), but you don't actually hit the head, which is what you gotta do

It's one of those game logic things

[latent obsidian]

A bullet through the brain is more damaging than simply severing the brain's connection to the body

[craggy pier]

Additionally

The head hitbox is still there

If you wanna take a blind guess and try to hit it, you can

It's a good thing to have in your pocket as a skill when using sniper

[elfin lava]

i thought i was a shizoid

but i got the hitmarker

in the same mission i came from with the first question

thats crazy lmfao

[craggy pier]

Yeah

[elfin lava]

also, i saw some stuff in patch notes about spear so was trying it out that mission, it seems it has "active frames" of the hit, can you position yourself next to two enemies and swipe them both at once?

[craggy pier]

Yes

[elfin lava]

like it can hit for a very long time after you actually release it compared to other weapons

[craggy pier]

Ye

Same for knife

[elfin lava]

damn, im discovering this stuff after 50hrs

[elfin lava]

thats what i mained, gotta be hard af and situational with knife right?

like youd need two dudes doing some human centipede shit to get that doublekill xd

[craggy pier]

I have never heard of knife killing two things per swing

[elfin lava]

ah i thought you meant the knife can also swipe two enemies

[craggy pier]

I meant the knife also hits late

Almost by a second

[elfin lava]

yeah ik, noticed after failing to knife my first dozen scouts

[craggy pier]

Knife hitbox is also funky

It originates from your side

[elfin lava]

its kinda satisfying now that im used to it

but its such a shit melee weapon 💀

[craggy pier]

Its held back by the hitbox imo

It's a fine choice

Fly through smalls and go afk for giants

[elfin lava]

you might be right, it just feels like shooting yourself into the leg if youre knifing in a duo team, i dont have much premade experience

mostly on discord to lurk out info lol

[craggy pier]

Usually one guy will take knife and the rest take sledge

[elfin lava]

like anything but standard enemies are a no go p much

chargers risky in clumped rooms

[craggy pier]

Yeah

[elfin lava]

that seems great

did those spear buffs change any breakpoints btw? i rly dont like the feel of the sledge for some reason and i dislike the changes to bat somewhat, the light stagger was the thing that kept it interesting

[craggy pier]

Nop

[elfin lava]

xd whats the point then

[craggy pier]

Spear's still the spear

[elfin lava]

gotta charge 0.5ms less, finally

[craggy pier]

I guess testing out sprint on it

With some additional small buffs

[elfin lava]

ig, its prob hard to make every weapon interesting in its own way

when its just 4 flavors of stick

[craggy pier]

They're pretty unique

But lets not get into spear balance discussion #736183

[elfin lava]

yep, deadass

nothing is being achieved in that

anyways tyvm for the answers

the invisible head thing got me fcked up xd

[latent obsidian]

People using spear?? 😡 😡 😡 essay time

[hardy grotto]

Someone tell them hammer is better

[native sun]

Bat light stagger still has all the same breakpoints, it is effectively unchanged.

[dry pumice]

Mostly just more reliable charge kills on smalls, slightly better damage on quick tap headshots (you can do full charge to body then do one quick tap to the head and that will finish a striker).
Giant occi is ~78 dmg, which means a hammer buddy can do flanking 40 and then its 1 quick tap to finish the job.
Reliable Occi + Headshot kill against giant shooters and maybe hybrids?
Locks break at 60% charge and not 100% like they used to.
The pseudo-sprint just gives better control of your character's movement states more than anything.

Overall just quality of life improvements across the board, but nothing ground breaking.

[native sun]

Spear changes have it bodyshot + light-tap headshot on strikers, which is pretty nice, but when hammer has bodyshot already kinda meh

[minor fractal]

Doesn't it lose giant two-tap stagger from front?

[native sun]

It didn't have it to begin with? 3*5 = 15, needs 40

[minor fractal]

Could've sworn it didn't require back, but maybe I don't remember the goofy tech.

[native sun]

Unfortunately not, once you hit one enemy you can't hit another. The only way to get double-hits is to hit them both on exactly the same frame, fun and cool when it happens, but not something to rely on, especially when learning the game, just pretend you can only hit one at a time.

[craggy pier]

I wanna be a knife main because I'm quirky like that

But hammer does what knife does with so much less effort

I guess knife is better in a panic if you're very gamer and keep landing headshots every 0.5 seconds

[native sun]

Knife is cool and fun, just gets rough on later levels where stealth killing giants becomes a soft requirement

[hidden ridge]

I've never really tried to stealth kill chargers with a knife but I cant imagine that being easy either

I'm pretty sure you need 2 backstabs, yes?

[native sun]

Ye, it's doable, but definitely reduces the scenarios in which it is safe to go for it

[hidden ridge]

Yeah I imagined so

[soft crater]

1 sleeping back stab + a 2nd stab into the back after it wakes.

[hidden ridge]

So if something else wakes it up and it's mid-waking up animation I'd need 3 backstabs? 🤔

[native sun]

Yup, pretty feels bad

[hidden ridge]

I'm not familiar with how it's stealth hit bonus works

[craggy pier]

Btw

[hidden ridge]

That's even worse

[soft crater]

Stealth bonus is basically another back bonus stack

But not exclusive to back

Iirc

Another 2x ( this is for charged hits exclusively)

[craggy pier]

What's the deal with aggro not happening after i bludgeon a sleeper that woke right next to others

Why don't they wake

[native sun]

Close range aggro only applies to hitting a sleeping enemy, not to killing awoken enemies. So if they're already awake, you can bonk em as much as you want.

[craggy pier]

Now that is some dumb shit

But highly appreciated

[soft crater]

It's a funny mechanic some people make use of to kill baby strikers right next to mothers
Or just nearby other enemies in general.

[hidden ridge]

I remember someone explaining to me that the proxy aggro only triggers once or something like that

[native sun]

Can definitely result in some goofy scenarios, but the alternative of straight up not being allowed to clutch if you get an unlucky aggro would not be fun

[craggy pier]

Hardcore shooter

Something about

Teamwork

I think

[hidden ridge]

Ok so

[craggy pier]

Why did mars havebnuckear weapons

[hidden ridge]

A long, long time ago

Like in Alpha

Even falling from a minuscule step from the stairs

was basically room up

[native sun]

First alpha had enemies insta scream and guaranteed long range aggro, and guess what, very hard core, also very not fun

[craggy pier]

That's dumb

Guaranteed long range aggro

Wow

[hidden ridge]

I said falling but I meant literally moving to the side of the staircase to skip, like 2 steps

[craggy pier]

I gotcha

Landing was noisy

[hidden ridge]

Then it became bunnyhop season

[craggy pier]

Maybe it wasn't a mistake after all

[native sun]

I think current jumping/landing interactions with stealth are very fair

[hidden ridge]

Tell you what, I've no idea how, but I'd like to do a mod that turns GTFO into an actual survival horror

[soft crater]

In my testing. It is different if you are host vs client

[hidden ridge]

As in, very few enemies, super few ammo, they wake up easier, big ass maps you get lost in

[soft crater]

As a host sprint jump landing always Wakes up enemies

[craggy pier]

Yeah it leans much more on shooter than horror

especially

With a team

[hidden ridge]

No tool other than biotracker, only weapons are Pistol and Shotgun

100% solo

[native sun]

@hidden ridge You may be interested in time's hardcore mod, though most of the hardcore part comes from hud and player changes - not a rundown mod

[soft crater]

But for whatever reason. As a client. Sprint jump landing from outside detection has consistently only put sleepers into throbbing state for me

[hidden ridge]

I'll check it out but I think that what I want is perhaps a bit too time consuming to make

[craggy pier]

With a team a solid 50% of the match is banter

Instead of being spooked

You're clearing rooms while talking about what gun is your favourite or about the socioeconomic status of South Africa

Or shitposting through voicelines

[native sun]

Haven't tested it personally, but definitely matches with some of my experiences

[soft crater]

Good teams either talk about gtfo mechanics/etc. Or 90% other shit

[soft crater]

I typically play client so I got used to sprint jumping and landing closer to sleepers only to place them into throbbing state. However testing it myself as a host seemingly always woke them up

[native sun]

The list of client advantages grows long, one day it may rival the power of host

[soft crater]

Ngl as host

Guns just feel better

[craggy pier]

Jee i wonder why

[hidden ridge]

As Host I can slide behind a striker and occiput before he hits me

As client much, much less often

[soft crater]

I guess stealth is more reliably accurate ( some people don't like that sleeping states aren't as accurate if you're a client)

[hidden ridge]

What I hate the most about not being host has to do with kiting/not getting hit

[soft crater]

Some friends of mine only ever play host and they hate sleeper states not being consistent when they're client

[minor fractal]

What I hate most about not being host is the tiny amount of sniper melee that lets shooters dodge DMR shots.

[soft crater]

[hidden ridge]

That's bad too but I just play a tad safer if it's a room I really dont want to wake up

[latent obsidian]

I've been spoiled with consistent host in my static so any desync as client really throws me off now

[hidden ridge]

And I refuse to stealth kill shit if I full charge and get no feedback

[icy cave]

That kill was a 6/10. it worked but it lacked conviction

got you bro

[craggy pier]

I love host just cause my guns feel good

Bullets don't feel floaty

[ashen frigate]

Now, if only we could play GTFO in LAN

[craggy pier]

When you hit you hit instantly and hitmarkersbwork

[icy cave]

Does it still exist !!!!

[craggy pier]

Gtfo lan party

[hidden ridge]

It always routes back to somewhere before connecting to client, right?

[icy cave]

Last pan party was soooooo long ago 😭

[ashen frigate]

Not while the game session is running

It does transfer information from time to time to a server, to keep track of your progress (according to the logs) but almost all of the traffic is peer-to-peer

[hidden ridge]

I mean, lan game cafes still exist, right?

[minor fractal]

LAN Client is the ultimate way to play GTFO.

[ashen frigate]

This is probably how most of the game testing takes place, internally. Much easier to set up in the same room, do a gaming session, then quickly feedback / note issues

[hidden ridge]

That's how sniper melee began existing

[ashen frigate]

I would not say that, but it certainly made it much harder to replicate

[hidden ridge]

"I wonder why random people connecting from different countries are having a problem we cant reproduce in our lan"

[ashen frigate]

I do not imagine the studio saying to one of their testers "please take this flight to Brazil, and do your testing from there"

[minor fractal]

They could have had BH test it, though.

So either they didn't, or BH didn't notice.

Either is pretty wild.

[native sun]

(BH is bug hunters, in case anyone else took as long to figure that out as me)

[fierce walrus]

nah BH is bee hogs

[hidden ridge]

Blood Harvest

[fierce walrus]

we all know bee hogs are the brazil testers

[native sun]

Bell's Hells (time to bait out all the ttrpg enjoyers)

[ashen frigate]

This one does not ring a - bell

[fierce walrus]

ttrpg stands for total trumpet road pig garden

[native sun]

Correct

[latent obsidian]

road pig garden sounds like a cool band name

[ember mulch]

Hmm

[fierce walrus]

im gonna go and get ownership of that name so i can sell it to some poor soul, thanks for the advice

[latent obsidian]

can't wait for the first album: total trumpet

[civic wave]

I do not watch ttrpg online plays but ttrpgs are fucking baller

[ashen frigate]

I thought it meant Table Top Role Playing Game or something :)

Well, the more you know.

[native sun]

No Cho, total trumpet road pig garden

[wind wren]

Approximately how big is the radius where sleepers can get triggered by walking/killing other sleepers etc?

[tardy ingot]

dw 50 hours is still new as hell

[civic wave]

Long range aggro is very long

Walking is not as long, you can generally feel it out

[dry pumice]

Walking is like 5-7 meters, long range wake up is like 15+, maybe 20.

Spoiler: my ability to measure distance with my eyes is crap

[civic wave]

I don't think you can really be given a specific measurement and your fov will make you perceive the distance as shorter or longer

[tardy ingot]

btw the light stagger change didnt do anything unless you regularly light tapped giants for perma stagger.

[wind wren]

Alr, asking cuz I just woke up a room by killing a sleeper, and a shooter like 20m across woke up

[tardy ingot]

this was the case before aswell?

[wind wren]

Ig radius is much bigger than I thought

[elfin lava]

yeah i kinda did in my duo gameplay lmfao, kinda cringe when i look back at it so the change was probably good

[dry pumice]

Not in my experience, but maybe somethings off.

[native sun]

u right, I was thinking of light-tap stagger on headshot

[dry pumice]

Finishing enemies after a failed full charge was cringe for some reason.

[elfin lava]

whats the difference between boosters saying "sentry damage" vs "SR sentry damage" 🤔

[dry pumice]

SR = Short Range.

Yes, it's stupid.

[native sun]

Also btw you can hover the effects for more info

[elfin lava]

lol.

crazy

[tardy ingot]

~8 for walking (same for sprinting and crouching when they are glowing/throbbing)

[elfin lava]

that doesnt exclude "sentry damage" from buffing short range sentries right?

[tardy ingot]

its not about short range sentries

its about sentries in short range

[dry pumice]

Yes. Sentry damage is damage period.

[elfin lava]

and arent all of them short range except burst and sniper lmfao

[elfin lava]

oh

ok

[icy cave]

barely here

[dry pumice]

Which is a very niche buff.

Maybe you can make shotgun sentry viable with it, but that's about it.

[icy cave]

altho I got a great attic with 1 Gbs connect and a switch

[elfin lava]

i barely used any boosters so im seeing which ones actually make a difference and whats kind of placebo

[icy cave]

But ....yeahclan is not of this time anymore

[icy cave]

Everything is placebo

[elfin lava]

so far if its not main/special D A M A G E i sleep

[icy cave]

boosters aren't needed

[elfin lava]

yeah ofc, but dmr being a oneshot to the head definitely isnt placebo

[dry pumice]

Almost everything is placebo except 99% infection resist and stacking supply efficiency.

And +5% on DMR.

[elfin lava]

hel revoler and pistol breakpoints make them much more enjoyable when boosted

rifle aswell but needs a lot of main dmg

[dry pumice]

Maybe, but HELrev is already low key busted.

[elfin lava]

high key, true

[native sun]

20m for long range aggro. 8m for walking. something like 2m for short range aggro

[elfin lava]

another thing i wanted to ask, how does that stat exactly work?

like should i be the person applying all the supplies ig is the question

or whoever has the booster that is

[native sun]

It applies to supplies you distribute, not ones you receive

[dry pumice]

Sort of, but even if you just use it on yourself that's already a major improvement.

[native sun]

So the person with supply efficiency should grab the packs and give em out

[elfin lava]

not including ones i recieve from myself right

lmao

[dry pumice]

Including.

[native sun]

It applies to ones you give yourself too

[vague bridge]

and melee damage

[dry pumice]

Every supply you give to anyone with a pack gets boosted.

[icy cave]

Just don't go too far with it. if you can grab something just grab it

[dry pumice]

Basically you get magic hands. But only you.

[wind wren]

Alr thanks, i assume long range aggro is only for killing smth while the sleeper 20m away is glowing/throbbing?

[elfin lava]

i worded it like an ape, got it

[icy cave]

The supplier is not supposed to take EVERYTHING

[elfin lava]

thanks a lot again!

[native sun]

Yeah, they have to be glowing (although sometimes you catch em during the very start of their glow and it is unreactable), and it is a 25% chance that it happens.

[tardy ingot]

"low key"

[wind wren]

Alr thanks : D

[native sun]

I forget if it is 25% for each enemy glowing or just 25% flat, but ye

[dry pumice]

There's a reason I use autos

[tardy ingot]

wat

no way long range aggro is 25%

[icy cave]

Yes... there is a reason indeed

[elfin lava]

wait why not?

[dry pumice]

Eh

It's annoying

[elfin lava]

besides it being a hassle for him to backtrack for previously unused items

[dry pumice]

Yes, that. And just acting like a king, ruler of supplies.

Do what you must, just don't be an ass hole.

[icy cave]

Like you find a 5 use and a 2 use. don't go out of your way to put everything on supplier.

Just grab the 2 use and burn it without boost

there is more ammo in the levels without boosters don't go nuts

Saves time

[elfin lava]

right makes sense, i was thinking theres something i missed - doing double takes on most info about this damn game lmfao

[icy cave]

and honestly I kick that kind of folks immediatly

[dry pumice]

Literally just relax.

[icy cave]

👆

[dry pumice]

Kill monster, do scan. Game finished.

[icy cave]

pretty much

[elfin lava]

ik, we have been playing duo and found the game quite forgiving, doing prisoner eff on r4 got me researching details a bit

i imagine its gonna get intense in higher rundowns

[icy cave]

R5 is the hardest rundown.

R4 is top 2

R6 and R7 are steps down in diff

Even if R7 is a step up from R6

[elfin lava]

damn...

[icy cave]

Eh

[elfin lava]

i mean we are at the start of r4, im sure well get fucked up in a bit

[icy cave]

that's why I say: don't overdo it

[icy cave]

true duo or with bots?

[elfin lava]

true duo

[icy cave]

Well if you manage R4E1 you basically top 1% then

[elfin lava]

we started with bots but found it they make it more difficult by being completely autistic, then modded them and they became too op

so just cut em

[elfin lava]

iirc we are at r4b1 now so quite a way to go, but thats sick to hear

cant wait for the challange

[dry pumice]

Vanilla bots are okay for most missions, except for when they stop scanning.

[icy cave]

You true duo'd R2E1?

[dry pumice]

It's a very rare issue for me, I have no idea what causes it, but other people experience it almost reliably.

Maybe hosts pc struggles too much.

[elfin lava]

actually no, completely forgot abt r2, we failed 2nd attempt at r2d1 extraction, and agreed that we prefer to see something but fog for atleast 50% of the game

and went on to r3

[icy cave]

Ah

[icy cave]

well R2E1 is the easiest E. R4E1 the hardest

so you might want to go back

But you not there yet soo

[elfin lava]

the levels where its walking through a fog area with minimal enemies for most of it is a really dumb kind of difficulty i feel like

[icy cave]

It won't get better 😅

[elfin lava]

maan 🤣

[native sun]

If you plan your route in R2D1 you can do the level with minimal fog diving, but it kinda requires knowing which zones are the ones with deep fog

[elfin lava]

probably when we hit some difficulty wall and get frustrated, only so many levels to do in this game

[dry pumice]

Bring infection resist and shit all over that level.

[icy cave]

R2D1 is generally a pretty chill D. so you might get your ass handed over to you at some point. But we'll see how crazy you guys get 👍😏

[dry pumice]

As an option, that is.

[vague bridge]

levels where you have to do alarms in fog are worse

[elfin lava]

absolutely, its just that kind of level that gets insanely easy if you know what youre getting yourself into, and extra hard when its your first run

[hidden ridge]

Wait a second, didnt door to zone 15 in og r4c2 have an alarm?

[vague bridge]

because then you're forced to bother with getting and using repellers

versus just tanking the infection

[icy cave]

Ugh R4C2. don't remember which one was 15 again?

[latent obsidian]

I don't remember an alarm there, thats the cell one right?

[hidden ridge]

the one that needed a cell

the one noone ever goes into

[icy cave]

Oh then no iirc

[icy cave]

probably why I don't remember 😂

[elfin lava]

this might be a very weak pathetic take, but i find the damage done to my eyes by acquiring targets in that fog worse than the infection damage xd

[dry pumice]

Which would also explain why they removed the alarm

(if they did)

[latent obsidian]

I think R4C2 might be the only level I remember the zone numbers of due to listing the collectibles in each one

[icy cave]

Oh and as you have done R1 and R3 apparently those are the 2 easiest. so you got some work to do still 😏😏

[hidden ridge]

The problem isn't and wasn't the alarm, it was all the backtrack to that door with a cell

[dry pumice]

All the more.

[icy cave]

R4C2 is "unfun" the level

[native sun]

Gamer take, you're gonna go far

[dry pumice]

Gtfo really does the "we work to earn the right to work" thing sometimes and it really shouldn't.

[elfin lava]

how many hours do you guys have that you remember the level in question by the damn number tags hahahah

[hidden ridge]

I liked og so much, alt not so much, dont know why

[icy cave]

1k+

[hidden ridge]

It feels a bit padded

[elfin lava]

badass

[icy cave]

they haven't changed much

[latent obsidian]

People remember via the tags and not the names usually

[hidden ridge]

1.7k but I rarely remember the zone numbers themselves

[elfin lava]

the system is pretty logical, ig its gonna come to me aswell lol

[native sun]

The only zone number I remember off the top of my head is the second zone of R1D1

[elfin lava]

zone numbers is crazy

[hidden ridge]

zone 69, yes

[vague bridge]

r4c2 is so forgettable though

[icy cave]

It's also by redoing all the levels multiple times

[elfin lava]

ig if youre practicing speedrun on a level a lot it makes sense but casual gamin hell nah

[latent obsidian]

I know R4C1 extreme is zone 311 cos thats like Ell :3

[hidden ridge]

I remember some like zone 611 or 613 for r2d1

[elfin lava]

yeah, figured people who have that many hours have to replay a lot

[icy cave]

Lots of new players to teach

[elfin lava]

youre doin a great job!

[icy cave]

and after that modded rundowns cause vanilla is to easy

[dry pumice]

My gtfo exposure is limited to soloing A Levels with bots when bored

[latent obsidian]

Quiz time: What is the overload objective in Cuernos?

[icy cave]

Hsu

[elfin lava]

glad to hear those are a thing

[elfin lava]

dump the bots, become god

[native sun]

See #hc-modded for more!

[icy cave]

there are some very good ones but also ..... some very very bad ones

But I highly advise to finish vanilla before touching those

[elfin lava]

thats the plan

[icy cave]

Man R4C3 come on

[latent obsidian]

Okay overload in recollect?

[elfin lava]

we are running modded rn so i had a look, gonna grind out vanilla before messing with the game more

[quick pebble]

Don’t say that they’re gonna make a whole level covered in infected fog and only big guys

[icy cave]

Hard drive

[icy cave]

They make way worse m8

[elfin lava]

rn using just stuff like "kill indicator fix" and "damagesync"

[dry pumice]

Sounds like QoL to me.

[icy cave]

Tell me I am correct !!!!

[latent obsidian]

Main in Chrysolite?

[latent obsidian]

Sorry yes you are correct 😛

[icy cave]

oooof R4B3 uhm

done it once in OG and Alt so forgetable

[hidden ridge]

I also remember og r4c2 zone 15 to have scouts...

[icy cave]

got me there. guessing ..... uplink?

[latent obsidian]

How many? 🙂

[hidden ridge]

terminals

[icy cave]

aaaaaah

3

[hidden ridge]

3

[latent obsidian]

✅

[icy cave]

Nais

[hidden ridge]

ok Ellda an easy one now

In GTFO there's an item you can ping WITHOUT TYPING ANY NUMBER

[latent obsidian]

collection case

[icy cave]

That was easy

[dry pumice]

Wait

[icy cave]

Name all possible orders for R6D3PE

[dry pumice]

Does that imply they only have one

Ouch

[icy cave]

yep R7B1

[hidden ridge]

Collection_case doesn't have a number

[soft crater]

Imean. Every single one of my runs. People avoid mother/scout zone

[dry pumice]

Actually wait, isn't matter wave projector counts too

[hidden ridge]

not sure

[icy cave]

False that is R6D2

Disqualified

[soft crater]

Shit you right

Overload 2nd

[hidden ridge]

Erhm order for opening a bulkhead?

[latent obsidian]

Hmm this is tough

[soft crater]

Main > overload > secondary

[latent obsidian]

Most orders are possible

[icy cave]

yes

[hidden ridge]

or for finishing objectives?

[icy cave]

Not all

[hidden ridge]

overload->main->secondary main->secondary->overload or main->overload->secondary

[soft crater]

Secondary doesn't have a bulkhead key does it?

[icy cave]

Yes

[latent obsidian]

You can't do overload, secondary main?

[icy cave]

Ellda is right that one should be out

[latent obsidian]

I mean thats possible right

Its very hard but not impossible?

[icy cave]

I mean main, sec and then ovl. that one can't

[hidden ridge]

I think it doesn't, you're right?

[icy cave]

No you need main clear to do sec

[hidden ridge]

If you mean inside of it

[soft crater]

Bulkhead key is in tank room at the end of main

[icy cave]

you lock out ovl else

[soft crater]

Iirc

[latent obsidian]

Ooh okay, I thought there was a bulkhead key in the last code zone

[hidden ridge]

yes

[icy cave]

correct

[latent obsidian]

But if you don't put the code in you can't go?

[hidden ridge]

one is in first zone, one is in the last zone of overload and one is in the last zone of main

so no main->sec->overload

[icy cave]

Ah if you mean finishing then technically you could

[hidden ridge]

if we count opening a bulkhead

[icy cave]

opening bulkheads tho

you cant

[latent obsidian]

Sure, yeah

I was thinking completion order

In which case I think everything is possible

[icy cave]

Alright and R4C1 ?

(easy one)

completion order this time

[latent obsidian]

Whats the question?

oh

Either, presumably

you can just have an error during extreme if you'd like

[soft crater]

[icy cave]

Yes, the uplink shuts down the Error

making tank a joke

[soft crater]

Reminds me of people doing Overload in R7C2 during error

Or with fog

Iirc that is. I haven't touched that level in ages

[icy cave]

I did with fog, honestly it's very very doable

[hidden ridge]

With fog is much easier than with error

[icy cave]

Soooo many medpacks

[hidden ridge]

Both are possible

[soft crater]

Someone told me it's because those zones get fog reps

[latent obsidian]

Yeah I've never completed that one with error

Tried it initially before realising the fog path

[icy cave]

Also if you not fast enough fog goes up during error

Def harder with error

[soft crater]

My first pe clear of r7c2 though. Secondary had both ground and flyer enemies

[latent obsidian]

How many R6 levels contain fliers? (I'm still working this one out)

[hidden ridge]

b1,c1,d1,d2,d3,d4,ax,cx

[soft crater]

B1 / C1 / D1 / D2 / D4 / AX / CX

[icy cave]

B1, C1,D1,D2,D3,D4,AX,CX

[latent obsidian]

looks good to me

[icy cave]

D3 back bridge alarm

[soft crater]

Yeyeye

[grizzled tide]

o/ hihi sorry to intrude, could i ask for a strange gtfo favour/help please? its quick i promise

[soft crater]

F9rgot about that

[icy cave]

go mah man

[latent obsidian]

go for it

[grizzled tide]

thank you!

I want to do draw an inside joke with the group I play with of me hiding and crying behind the "Rad Labs Meduza HEL Auto Sentry" (who we call Michelangelo) - could someone please grab me some screenshots of the turret from the front 3/4 angle with good lighting (as best u can) please? I dont want to waste peoples time by loading into a lobby to immedatly leave, but i also want it to be a surpise for my friends

plus my eyes are bad and i cant make any details out in online screenshots orz

sorry to bother yall!!

[dry pumice]

Can't you just drop solo with one

[grizzled tide]

ohh

im kinda dumb, i didnt realise solo was an option

ive wasted half an hour working up the nerve to ask sgldkjsgk

[dry pumice]

Yeah you can LOCKED player slots.

[latent obsidian]

😂

Well, now you know 😛

[icy cave]

And to save you even more future time: never take auto sentry again with your group. (if you want to win that is)

[grizzled tide]

it didnt compute that this game would have a solo option and i was so pressed about not being a bother

[icy cave]

dw. get the screenshot!

[grizzled tide]

weve cleared a couple levels and are willing to try new things but its an every session joke

some of the others use turrets too and have named them after other ninja turtles

[tepid sand]

If you want to get extra fancy you can use the GTFO Cinematic Mod

[soft crater]

lowkey sad to see this isn't used more

[grizzled tide]

but its mostly foam launcher bio scanner sniper then me hiding behind a turret cus i am bad at games lmfao

[tepid sand]

Just requires some tinkering, it's quite confusing at a first glance

[grizzled tide]

thats cool! I didnt know gtfo's stances on mods thank you!

[icy cave]

No worries, just so you know it's considered trash. Burst is the way

[grizzled tide]

thanks

[icy cave]

R4A2 ovl obj?

[tepid sand]

It's the only one they officially endorse, QoL mods they are lenient, and then modding in general is disliked

(10CC perspective)

[grizzled tide]

that makes sense

thank you, sorry to intrude

[latent obsidian]

terminal command

[icy cave]

yes

[latent obsidian]

I wasn't looking it up I was making a drink, promise

[icy cave]

sure

[latent obsidian]

what levels contain data spheres?

[turbid horizon]

R4C1, (R4C3?), R5C3

[soft crater]

Omg he uses cleaner clothes.

[dry pumice]

R4C2*

You almost guessed it

[turbid horizon]

Ah ok

Idk I haven’t played R4C tier past C1

[soft crater]

Dauda Spheres*

[dry pumice]

Checks out

[soft crater]

[turbid horizon]

Knew it was one of the two, forgot C3 is cluster ovl

[latent obsidian]

Is R4D2 a regular cargo?

[icy cave]

yes

[dry pumice]

Yes

Steel box

Love the model, wanna lick

[turbid horizon]

?)

[dry pumice]

They should make some as merch

[soft crater]

We can only cope

[icy cave]

Ok I understand more stuff now

[soft crater]

Or make it ourselves

I still need to look up or make some custom gtfo stickers