gtfo-related-questions

[ocean spindle]

is nice i like it, i need to use it more

[arctic marten]

pistol is probably the better rifle at this point, but its a close match

[gusty marsh]

I quite like it but the close range performance leaves something to be desired

Might try out the pistol

[rain valley]

i like the pistol, but i prefer the full auto stuff for closer encounters

[ocean spindle]

i like autos but i use em for necessity if it was for me id stick to hel revo, dmr, pistol

i just cant aim

[gusty marsh]

How many headshots does the pistol take to kill a striker?

[ocean spindle]

one and two bodyshots

[arctic marten]

2hs + 1 body

[ocean spindle]

or, that

[gusty marsh]

Ah so it’s the same as rifle

Neat

I’ll definitely give it a try next time I play

[arctic marten]

wait i think this one is right

[ocean spindle]

yeah think the head, dies after u shot it once

but yeah pistol is rifle, i think it was more ammo less range or somethin among those lines

[gusty marsh]

That’s pretty much what the wiki said

[ocean spindle]

i am the wiki slendi is a facade

[gusty marsh]

Been struggling a bit with the reactor mission in Alt rundown 1 cause the bots are not really good with covering me while inputting the code lol

[rain valley]

i had that issue with r1c1 too

[sturdy glen]

2 hs works at range

[gusty marsh]

Yep R1C1 is the one

[rain valley]

hs?

[arctic marten]

the worst level...

[ocean spindle]

c1 with bots is kinda hardest level in the rundown, very tricky to get it took me a while

i needed to learn by the hard way where to hold n how to do it

[gusty marsh]

I tried it like 3 times then figured I’d just wait on one of my buddies to run it with me since I was struggling with bots

[rain valley]

well, im free to play atm, if u need an extra player

[gusty marsh]

Been playing mostly blind & solo into this game outside of reading wiki pages on the weapons

[rain valley]

ive beaten r1c1 twice, both with players i met here

[ocean spindle]

as it should b

this game blinds is tons fuck on fun

[gusty marsh]

I don’t really like grouping with people I’m not already good friends with, but thanks for the offer

[rain valley]

np

[lusty bramble]

I like grouping up with artel

Hole he groups up with me soon

[ocean spindle]

el arteoloso

[gusty marsh]

My usual buddies have just been busy lately so I mostly have been practicing on the previous levels

[lusty bramble]

Please group up with me arrek

[icy cave]

Just be aware you can't finish the game solo/with bots

[arctic marten]

no artek group with me instead

[lusty bramble]

I can finish the game solo

[ocean spindle]

u can try goin in with no bots to r1b1, is nice practice for holdin and sneakin... and easier than r1a1

[gusty marsh]

I’m aware, my usual buddies have just been busy as of recently

[craggy pier]

fact check: its possible

[narrow niche]

It's possible

[lusty bramble]

I think you need to have respect for trans people to be able to do it though

[narrow niche]

:D

[gusty marsh]

I ran R1A1 quite a lot to just practice chain killing sleepers with the knife, been getting quite good with it

[icy cave]

Not without cheats/glitching

[craggy pier]

you dont need any of that unless u suck at the game big time

[craggy pier]

yeah before the bomb ticks down

[ocean spindle]

noice, i mean its a perfectly level for full solo too, just r1b1 is a bit easier since it doesnt have a, class IV n stuff

[icy cave]

You do and you know it. Just stop lying you'll be better off

[craggy pier]

no i dont believe that

[arctic marten]

bro clearly sucks ass at the game, can't even beat it solo

smh

[gusty marsh]

The class IV is pretty fun, I like the challenge

[icy cave]

delusional like a lot of folks

[craggy pier]

too bad

[rain valley]

knife is great, i use it too, but it is also good to practice with hammer or spear sometimes, incase you need to melee scouts

or melee big guys

[gusty marsh]

I switch between hammer and knife here & there

[ocean spindle]

or melee the floor

[narrow niche]

You can knife scouts

You... can knife big guys

[rain valley]

same, i switch depending on the mission and my team's loadout

[ocean spindle]

solo? sure but not without wakin up the room

[gusty marsh]

Knifing scouts is hard & I’ve only managed it once, but it felt very rewarding to do

[ocean spindle]

and worse with bots

[rain valley]

ik, but its harder

[narrow niche]

Uhhh

[lusty bramble]

My team switches their loadout

[narrow niche]

You... Can ...

Possibly

[lusty bramble]

They know who's the boss

[narrow niche]

It can

[vague bridge]

❌

[narrow niche]

It's occu

:D

[ocean spindle]

only seen one person take a knife n kill a big with it and its just by baitin swings

[narrow niche]

Same ong

[vague bridge]

i can knife scouts in my sleep

[narrow niche]

Just bait swings

[rain valley]

id rather increase my chances of success vs a scout/big guy than flex knife skills

[narrow niche]

Just bat stun a giant

[lusty bramble]

No you can't

[gusty marsh]

Sometimes it’s hard to get an occu hit on a scout depending on where it’s walking around

[lusty bramble]

👎

[narrow niche]

Just position better

Just spin

[ocean spindle]

its not to flex, if u get good at scout kills with knife u dont need to have a hammer in ur team

[arctic marten]

mom says its my turn to be the mute bio main

[narrow niche]

Same

[vague bridge]

Yes i can

[ocean spindle]

i mean u dont have to if the other 3 have it u can run knife perfectly

[lusty bramble]

I think if two mute bio mains join the same match the matchmaking errors

[vague bridge]

👍

[rain valley]

my skill level hasnt reached that yet lol

[narrow niche]

Mmm

[arctic marten]

trick question, there is only ever one person matchmaking at one time

[narrow niche]

The hammer is for turning around and headshotting a scout

[lusty bramble]

I only play with the inner circle

No need for matchmaking

[gusty marsh]

I prefer bio but bots just cannot use Cfoam…

[narrow niche]

Why not?????

[lusty bramble]

Are you mute

[ocean spindle]

cause they funky with it

[arctic marten]

they just need some practice

[ocean spindle]

i mean they can, is not, ideal

[narrow niche]

Fair

[lusty bramble]

The bots have hello neighbor ai

They learn as you go

[arctic marten]

its true

[narrow niche]

I'm mute and I'm gonna steal your bio

[lusty bramble]

I've look at the code

[narrow niche]

I'm deafened and I'm gonna steal your bio

:D

[rain valley]

im not muted and i like mines :D

[civic wave]

why do you need bio as a mute? Surely I need the biotracker much more to know where enemies are because the voices in my head make it hard to listen to audio cues

[narrow niche]

Yes

Just bring thermals

Ong

[lusty bramble]

The mute needs the bio so they can disconnect faster

[narrow niche]

Yes

[gusty marsh]

If I play with randoms then usually yeah

[lusty bramble]

NOOOO

[gusty marsh]

I’ll just get good with the text chat

Trust

[lusty bramble]

DONT DO THAT

[arctic marten]

but then you have to use the weapons they are attached to👎

[narrow niche]

Ong

[lusty bramble]

DONT BE A MUTE BIOTRACKER MAIN

[narrow niche]

Pdw is fine

[lusty bramble]

Pdw 🫵😂

[arctic marten]

full auto 👎

[narrow niche]

According to someone I've played with, you'll see me shooting and then several paragraphs will appear in chat

[civic wave]

PDW users deserve more vitriol than PR users

[gusty marsh]

I quite like the precision rifle

[narrow niche]

M

Noo

[lusty bramble]

Precision rifle is for birtgers only

Birthers

[narrow niche]

What

[rain valley]

:,c but i like full auto...

[arctic marten]

wrong opinion

[narrow niche]

:D

[lusty bramble]

Precision rifle is for birthers only

[gusty marsh]

Thermals are my budget bioscan when I’m running cfoam

Just spin around while sneaking through the room

[narrow niche]

Just use eyes ong

Turn up gamma

[lusty bramble]

Use the budget biotracker (eyes and ears)

[gusty marsh]

Ruins the mood

[rain valley]

gamma cringe

[lusty bramble]

The biotracker is for the mute player so that they don't have to do terminals

[dry pumice]

People around here having them eagle eyes

[narrow niche]

Just get better eyes tbh

[arctic marten]

HI ARTEK WANNA PLAY

[narrow niche]

Don't even turn up gamma

[lusty bramble]

NO ARTEK.PLAY WITH ME

[dry pumice]

No, I'm at work. Night shift again.

[narrow niche]

F

[rain valley]

my eyes dont work well, can i have yours?

[sturdy glen]

Remember to turn your contrast down guys

[narrow niche]

No

[gusty marsh]

The best budget bio is walking around and stopping when you hear the sleepers convulse

[narrow niche]

Old

[lusty bramble]

It's morning where I live so you can come home and play

[rain valley]

dont remind me 😭

i have one foot in the grave as is

[narrow niche]

:D

Yes

[rain valley]

my friends list is getting smaller as the years go, they are filling up the obituaries

[narrow niche]

Yes

[rain valley]

lol, ur on that list bucko >_>

[narrow niche]

I'm not as old as you

[rain valley]

:,c

[narrow niche]

:D

[rain valley]

:D

[dry pumice]

stop it

[rain valley]

lol

[timid robin]

About the lobby code, isnt there any other way to see my own code if i cant copy it to clipboard? (im asking since the game on GeForce NOW doesnt let me copy it)

[narrow niche]

Nope

:D

[rain valley]

when playing on geforce, you can join others lobbies, but others cant join yours unless they are friends with you on steam, they can use steam to join u

[timid robin]

sadge

[hidden ridge]

well, I dont know about geforce now, but you can grab lobby ids from people's steam profile pages if they (or anyone inside their lobby) has the profile set to public

click on their steam profile page, "Join now" or whatever under game details, right click, copy link

paste, it has 2 strings of numbers, first string is the lobby id

No idea if that'd work on geforce now

[rain valley]

good idea!

[verbal meteor]

I'm confused on how to equip cosmetics. and well. everything about the game. is there a way to choose different weapons too?

[quick pebble]

Load into a lobby

From there you can change everything

[verbal meteor]

ohh. thank you!

I was so confused XD

[vague bridge]

how long does black square bug last

just kidding

as soon as i asked it it went away

[sturdy glen]

its a random amount of time anyways

[quick pebble]

What does artifact heat mean

[narrow niche]

I'm pretty sure it's how much each art gives you but

Idk

[native sun]

If you're at 80% artifact heat than each artifact you pick up only contributes 80% of its normal value towards getting a booster

Atrifacts normally contribute 0.15 of a booster, so at 50% artifact heat they would only contribute 0.075 of a booster

[gray rapids]

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Artifacts

[past mesa]

But how does artifact heat go up or down true

[native sun]

wiki

read

[past mesa]

Will think about it

[native sun]

am appreciate

[robust onyx]

o

[jaunty tapir]

Hey is there a room divider here? Im trying to figure out where the spawns are gonna come from

https://i.imgur.com/HHTfSFF.png

[jagged shore]

if that's the room i think it is i don't believe so

[rain valley]

signs on the walls can show you if they are different rooms

like zone23 area A and zone23 area B

[jaunty tapir]

Ok i may have misunderstood sound room dividers with spawning. Thanks

Man, how was i suppose to know i needed to finish Overload before i did Secondary? I ran out of Bulkhead keys and locked myself out of it :(

I guess i should of verified

[jagged shore]

you find out by reading where all the bulkhead keys are and figuring it out based on where you can access

for instance in that level, if you check at the beginning of the level, you see one's in secondary, one's in overload (plus the one in main of course)
and you may notice that overload is in secondary
then when you go into secondary, you see that the bulkhead key that was in here is available to you now, and now you have to choose between overload and secondary
now, there's only one bulkhead key left which is in overload, so that means in order to do all of them you need to do overload

[past mesa]

List keys

Count how many there is

If there is <=4 on a pe level order matters

[jaunty tapir]

I definitly could of ran around and checked all the doors and stuff just to be sure. Wish it sorta didnt have to make you do that before you screw yourself

Was just tryin to be quick but oh well

[past mesa]

Yeah if you want to be sure you can just ask

[past mesa]

Discord chat knows it by heart if you ask the level we can tell you the order

Feel free to @ me and I can message you it most times

[icy cave]

Terminal query is quick ..

[timid robin]

Question, will Drekker Del P1 precision rifle one shot an scout with a headshot?

[latent obsidian]

yes

[timid robin]

good to know

[narrow niche]

shooting scouts

[icy cave]

Don't make a habitat of shooting scouts. it will hurt your long game

[neon gust]

MANUFACTURER ALERT ❗

[olive robin]

From a range of like 30 or less meters unless it's back of the head

Also are you shooting scouts through doorways or no

[neon gust]

Closing door cheese

Ew

[olive robin]

What no I leave it open

Shooting through open doorways reduces sound

Shooting while it closes negates sound

I only shoot through open ones

[neon gust]

Tis a joke nobody really cares

Developer shoulds actually fix how sound works instead of this system basic ass system

[olive robin]

Yeah that'd be cool

If I shoot and enemies are on the other side of the wall

They don't hear me unless a door to that room is open right

Even if the door is ridiculously far from my current location

[latent obsidian]

Shooting through opening security doors ✅
Shooting through closing doors ❌

[latent obsidian]

Yeah pretty much

Each door between you and the enemy reduces the detection radius from your shooting by 20m

What I didn't realise until kinda recently is the distance measured is the direct distance to the enemy through walls, not the "path the sound would take through the doors"

[olive robin]

Awesome

[wind wren]

So I'm a bit [redacted] sometimes when it comes to navigating in foggy areas, any tips? (I do look at map but it doesnt help much tbh) trying to do r3a3 w bots and theres this one area with dense fog where I just get lost every fucking time which causes me to repeat wave -> die.

[dry pumice]

Fog repellers or learn room loadout and navigate by touch.

[latent obsidian]

Yeah remembering the room layout is probably the biggest thing

But if you don't know it and there are enemies definitely just pull and clear it first rather than trying to stealth

[wind wren]

My tiny little brain ain't too good at that

But ig I'll just try harder in that department, thanks anyway : D

[jaunty latch]

stare at the floor and hug walls

[ocean spindle]

when i did it i just kinda pulled the rooms so i didn't had to waste time sneakin, i saved a bit of ammo to do it and then i just ran huggin walls

and if i found a terminal that wasn't it, i pinged the correct one

[gusty marsh]

Any tips for R1C1?

[dry pumice]

All of them.
1 bio, 3 sentries.
Burn small packs you find early, bring the big ones with you, remember the rest.
Hold the bridge, shoot good. Save sentries if you can - place just one for first half of alarms, then deploy the rest as things get spicy.
Use time between waves to run back to loot resources left behind.

[gusty marsh]

Sounds good

My main issue is I tend to be stuck with bots most of the time as I don’t like playing with randoms, and the bots are not very good at the mission

[dry pumice]

The level is really not hard, it's just people are slow to wake up to the idea of truly loud GTFO.

[dry pumice]

Oh yeah, bots suck twice the A for reactors.

That's 3 people not doing the looting.

[gusty marsh]

Yep

Hoping it’s tolerable to duo with a friend or two

[rain valley]

it should be fine with 2 people 2 bots

[dry pumice]

Just 1 extra guy is a major improvement.

[little pilot]

do chargers take more damage from hel guns than from normal guns or is that just a myth?

[ocean spindle]

that is not true at all

u got misinformed

hel rifle just has 30 dmg, same as the chargers health so its a oneshot
but so does high cal

and, most other shotguns

[rain valley]

chargers only take extra damage when hit in the back, from any weapon

even head shots dont do extra damage

[little pilot]

ty, i will blame my friend for missinformation

[rain valley]

lol

[ocean spindle]

well they dont, have a head to shoot ksmdkm

they just have a torso and then whatev the hell is goin on there

[ocean spindle]

at least, they probs made u take hel guns on those levels, and hel guns are usualy not bad for chargers so

congrats

:]

[rain valley]

oh, i always just considered it a spikey head

[ocean spindle]

i mean it kinda is but in precision or whatev terms, for all intents and purposes they r just a torso

and a back

[little pilot]

nah, he just thought hel had more dmg for them, but I just like my high cal

[ocean spindle]

ok nevermind ksmkm well at least high cal is good for em too

or, good in general

[rain valley]

ah ok

[dry pumice]

Anything that deals 30 damage a shot is what gives them in. Because they have 30 HP.
HEL Rifle is just the apex example because it both deals 30 damage and penetrates allowing for multi kills.

It also got pretty high fall off range, so it works 99% of the time.

High cal is fine too (also 30 dmg) but it got that nasty 8m range before damage fall off starts settling in denying the kill.

[cold quarry]

I wonder if you stack enough special damage+ enemy distance boosters

the high cal's damage range would be a sandwich of instakilling up to 8m, not instakilling from 9-19m, then instakilling again at 20

[gusty marsh]

Is the HEL rifle a one shot to body or just headshots?

[olive robin]

body on shooters and strikers

cause it does 30.1

[gusty marsh]

Sheesh

I thought it was only headshots

Good to know

[olive robin]

hel gun is on body for strikers and head for shooters

though back too i think?

[dry pumice]

Charger boys take no bonus damage from headshots

[gusty marsh]

Might try it for R1C1 cause the piercing should be good against the bunched up enemies

[cold quarry]

can't body strikers

[dry pumice]

It's just 30 to body.

[gusty marsh]

Other way around, strikers have more HP than shooters

[ocean spindle]

hel gun is for headshots in general for smols

no

[dry pumice]

NO

[gusty marsh]

I could’ve sworn it was like that

[ocean spindle]

strikers have 20, shooters have 30, just shooters have more multiplier on the heads

[dry pumice]

Where you people get this information

[ocean spindle]

dont scream we are sleepin

[gusty marsh]

Makes sense then, I just remembered them being 1 tappable by a lot more melee left clicks

[olive robin]

Your falsehoods fool none.

(regular mistake)

[olive robin]

shi ur right

thought it did 20 for some reason

[ocean spindle]

that is true, but thats cause their heads are very weak, thats why u can onetap shooter from occi with a hammer

[dry pumice]

• 20 on biters
• 30 on shooters
• 30 in chargers
• 42 on scouts
• 60 on special scouts
• 120 on giants
• 150 on giant shooters

[ocean spindle]

i mean if ur onetappin on the body then no

but if u onetap head itll probs go down faster

• cause the shooters have a head until they die, unlike strikers

[hidden ridge]

old, but yes

1 hit tap occi with hammer/gavel/whatever used to kill strikers

now it only kills shooters

[olive robin]

you mean strikers?

[past mesa]

No tap hammer bat kills shooter

[ocean spindle]

hammer nowadays only onetaps shooters in the back of the head

[lone mortar]

[ocean spindle]

what

[lone mortar]

[ocean spindle]

what

[olive robin]

a hammer light attack does 3 dmg

occiput striker is 6x dmg

and they have 20 hp

ur not one shotting anyone with a hammer tap i think

unless by tap you mean charging

[past mesa]

You one shot a shooter

[ocean spindle]

occiput shooter
striker was before the nerf hammer had in r6

[olive robin]

wait hold up

shooter is 10x occiput???

wtf???

[ocean spindle]

"Prior to Rundown 6, hitting the Occiput of either Strikers or Shooters with the Maul, Sledgehammer, Gavel or Mallet, would instantly kill them regardless of charge level, these melee weapons have since been retired and replaced with the current Santonian HDH Sledgehammer. "

also yes

[olive robin]

hold up 10x occiput is insane

literally anything kills a shooter to the occiput??

[past mesa]

Shooters are very weak to the head

[past mesa]

Not hel pp

[olive robin]

this is true

almost does though lol

anything that does 3 precision damage or more one shots them

thats wild

[sturdy glen]

hel pp is

not even close

[sturdy glen]

you would be surprised how few mains that is

[olive robin]

oh dagger also doesnt do it

[past mesa]

All single fires

[olive robin]

dagger only does 2

ngl thats crazy though

bat can just one tap shooters to the back of the head

wtf

[sturdy glen]

unless you get rounding error!!!!!!

[past mesa]

yeah bat and hammer

[olive robin]

idk why they dont just decrease ALL enemy hp by like .1

[past mesa]

No

[olive robin]

so they dont need things like "yes the hel rifle does 30.1 damage"

[sturdy glen]

.1 to all weapons is better

[olive robin]

give players a 1.01x dmg multiplier

when attacking full health enemies

easy

[ocean spindle]

nah

its the exact same thing

[sturdy glen]

im ngl, I dont hate that solution

[olive robin]

but not every gun does .1 extra damage

[past mesa]

I just wish there wasn’t a rounding error

[ocean spindle]

funny funny numbers

[olive robin]

the .1 damage solution to the rounding error would make sense if they actually used it consistently

instead of on random weapons

[sturdy glen]

every weapon has it

the melees are the only exceptions

[olive robin]

not a single melee

the dreker does 13

so on uh

uhhh

[ocean spindle]

aham

[past mesa]

17.5

5.5

“Knife has it”

[olive robin]

not on light hits

[sturdy glen]

ig the recent patch stuff doesnt

bc and pr both have flat numbers fsr

[olive robin]

bc does 22

[ocean spindle]

but the burst cannon does 22 dmg per bullet, it doesnt have anythin to bug on cause it always surpasses or goes a bit below the dmg to kill an enemy
and if another weapon hits it it fixes the roundin

what enemy dies only with burst cannon in exact numbers

[olive robin]

Full burst a giant then 5 knife/spear light attacks

To the front

I get ur point though

I just think it'd be cleanest to add a wide fix for it instead of the decimal stuff

[cold quarry]

knife and spear doesn't

[olive robin]

Ur right

This is unforgivable

They need a damage buff

[gusty marsh]

when do you guys use boosters

I'm sitting on a bunch

[cold quarry]

when you're struggling with a level

[past mesa]

Never

[sturdy glen]

when the pub threatens to leave the lobby if I dont

[dry pumice]

Muted: pretty much all the time since i gain them quicker then i burn them (you often get at least 2 if you succesfully loot everything in a mission). I only keep really good ones for later - to stack with others.
And i delete any that give less than 10% or dreaded Regen Speed. Worst effect a booster can have, IMHO.

Bold: pretty much same thing. Also can't burn them quick enough, because they tend to come in sets of 2.
Occasionally delete lame ones.

Aggressive: now these you keep for a rainy day. Their effects are often overpowered and can break a mission.
Regen Speed still goes into trash and i don't like the ones that nerf Melee Damage, unless the positive is REALLY good.

[past mesa]

No way this happen

[gusty marsh]

ty

[sturdy glen]

it does happen

[past mesa]

If you don’t take -melee dmg

[arctic marten]

thats why you stock up on -bioscan speed

[urban wren]

how can i join somemones game

[lunar rain]

any recomendations for load out for doing r6d1

[past mesa]

Take at least one sniper

[ocean spindle]

thats about, it tbh the rest u can play around, i guess mostly just long ranges cause theres some enemies that u wanna dispatch from afar

[lunar rain]

hel or actual sniper

[ocean spindle]

sniper sniper

theres only one sniper in the game

the rest are different guns

hel rifle, precision rifle, not snipers

[lunar rain]

mb thank you

[ocean spindle]

its fine

[lunar rain]

i will see how this goes doing this for the first time with my friends

[ocean spindle]

uyyyy

:3

fun funs

[river furnace]

generator power cell won't allow anyone to pick it up from the ground, is there a way to fix this without resetting the whole match?

[narrow niche]

bots?

try getting a bot to pick it up

[river furnace]

how do you make a bot pick it up?

[narrow niche]

thats the only solution i know

q

uhh

it should pull up a menu

[ocean spindle]

Q, 2 and then 'Carry the objective item'

if its not 2, then its Q, 3 and same thing

[whole grove]

What are the pros and cons of the heavy assault rifle?

[cold quarry]

pros: hit hard

cons: oeeuuu whered my ammo go

[weary mesa]

No charge up too

[minor fractal]

High single-shot damage (and so very good stagger), very reactive, very granular (you can carefully control how much damage you put out at once), and a very high RoF.

[narrow niche]

har tapfire always sounds funny

[minor fractal]

For cons, low ammo for a wave clear special, and 5 damage is sometimes an awkward breakpoint. The mag size is also smaller than MGs, but that tends not to be too bad, especially w/ the reload.

High recoil, especially w/ the RoF leading to overspill, is also a con.

[cosmic blade]

I have an interesting game mechanics question. if I foam a sleeping enemy, does it show up as a red dot on bio-tracker? If so when the enemy despawns, is it still sleeping?

[fierce walrus]

The enemy will still be sleeping when it defoams unless you hit it but didnt kill it, and im pretty sure foamed enemies dont show up red on bio

[verbal zinc]

u can tag it

[high ice]

any suggestions on main weapons i have been using the regular pistol but just dont really like it and not sure what else is good?

[narrow niche]

well

if youre asking whats meta

its just

carbine

hel rev

uh

maybe hel shotty

idr

[zealous light]

Dmr?

[narrow niche]

i mean

eh

[zealous light]

I seem to perform better with the double tap than dmr though

[zealous light]

My favs:
Carbine
Heavy Smg
Double tap rifle

[high ice]

Ah okay thanks! i will give them all a try and see what is fun.

[haughty island]

I think carbine is too much op

Probably get nerfed in rundown 8

[narrow niche]

m

[dry pumice]

Carbine is the brainless upgrade to pistol. An argument can be made its the same thing basically, even if it spreads its damage output across 4 bullets. Better DPS, got a nice sight... Relatively speaking.

Otherwise anything is fine if you can use it. With sole exception being HEL AutoPistol, not sure how to get milleage out of that thing.

[tardy ingot]

Stagger stuff? Lol

also carbine isnt similar to pistol at all??

[neon gust]

Artek

cocaine its a hell of a drug

i know

[icy cave]

😏

[dry pumice]

Sure, but its boring and HEL Shotgun exists already, so HELPPs existence is honestly rudimentary at this moment in time.

[dry pumice]

I tap LMB quickly in general direction of the enemy and it seems to reliably die. Yeah, about same...

[minor fractal]

That's more Rifle imo.

[dry pumice]

That too.

[minor fractal]

Pistol actually loses quite a bit if you don't manage to hit heads.

[dry pumice]

Hipfire on 556 is honestly not as bad as I hoped it would be.

[hidden ridge]

It's Artek

[narrow niche]

lmao

[hidden ridge]

I'm starting to think he just rolls dice and decides

1 to 9 for weapons, 1 to 9 from "it's better than" to "it's kinda like" to "it's worse than", then another roll for weapon

[narrow niche]

hel rifle? its kinda like scattergun

[verbal zinc]

someone should make a tier list

[hidden ridge]

"heavy smg, it's kinda like, combat shotgun"

[narrow niche]

you see

both are automatic

[hidden ridge]

result of 8,14,19 on a 1d30

[narrow niche]

heavy smg just has more range

so

its kinda like

a brainless upgrade

[hidden ridge]

let's roll again

14,30,7

[minor fractal]

Tbf, I've heard plenty of unironic "HEL Shotgun is just Combat Shotgun" and "PR/HEL Rifle/Sniper are similar weapons" takes.

Perceptions can vary wildly.

[hidden ridge]

"Rifle is incredibly better than PDW"

[narrow niche]

hel shotgun is just combat shotgun

:D

[narrow niche]

nonono

rifle is like

a semi automatic pdw

:D

[hidden ridge]

If I had a penny for everytime a newbie is suprised his PR didnt oneshot a big striker because "It's a sniper" I'd have 3 pennies

[icy cave]

This dude 😂

[dry pumice]

To be fair the underlying mode of operation for HELshot and for CombatShot are essentially the same. One just deals slightly less focused damage for the penetration.

[narrow niche]

hel rifle is sniper

[icy cave]

Roll more

[hidden ridge]

I can roll again

[narrow niche]

must aim for head

[icy cave]

Please

[narrow niche]

ohno

[hidden ridge]

20,5,30

[icy cave]

I do think your theory makes sense now that I see the correlation

[narrow niche]

so

combat shotgun

is kinda like

a hel rifle

with one less round

god drugs are fun

[hidden ridge]

"Scattergun is incredibly worse than HEL Rifle"

[minor fractal]

I even had an R7E1 where I'm like "nw, I have HEL Rifle" in response to us running out of foam on zone scan....

[narrow niche]

hmmm

[minor fractal]

And our least experienced player is like "I'm not sure if a sniper rifle will be so good for that"

[narrow niche]

💀

most sniper rifle

so you know ar right? its just an automatic burst rifle

[hidden ridge]

rifle is like an automatic rifle but not automatic

[minor fractal]

Design-wise, you are technically correct

and Rifle is a semi-automatic assault rifle.

[hidden ridge]

many such cases

[narrow niche]

hmyes

[narrow niche]

ofc ofc

[hidden ridge]

I also cringe when I hear "I've been liking the KONING"

[narrow niche]

koning

clearly

[hidden ridge]

"I think the BATALDO is BROKEN, DUDE!"

[narrow niche]

myes

well

tbf

the veruta

[hidden ridge]

only case I use the name of the weapon is veruta/arbalist since they're both MG

[civic wave]

Bro I love the techman, it's so strong

[narrow niche]

ong

[hidden ridge]

if game called Veruta Light Machine Gun, I'd call it LMG

[narrow niche]

well it would probably call both lmgs then

which

[hidden ridge]

Or just call Arbalist Heavy Machine Gun

[narrow niche]

hm

[rough surge]

when was the last sale? I am considering purchasing the game. Not sure if i shall wait

[narrow niche]

last one was steam anniv for 33%

thats probably the lowest

its gonna go

[rough surge]

when was steam anniv

[narrow niche]

september??

uhh

10?

[rough surge]

then there wont be sale for next 1 month at least

[narrow niche]

m

idk

[rough surge]

%33 isnt much anyway

[narrow niche]

yea

[rough surge]

and game is cheap

[narrow niche]

then buy it idk

[rough surge]

lmao

[narrow niche]

ok so hear me out here

the hel gun?

just a rev with charge up and pen

[dry pumice]

If you said HELRev you would be technically correct.

[high ice]

is taking carbine and hel rifle into r7e1 gonna annoy my teamates?

[narrow niche]

but i didnt

[narrow niche]

itl be fine

i mean

[dry pumice]

No? I anything seems like a meta pick for that level.

[narrow niche]

yea

why would either be bad

unless youre shooting your teammates

then

then well

its not the loadout

[high ice]

im just bad 😭

[narrow niche]

ah

youre probably fine

itl be fine

i mean

if you unlocked an e level

you cant be that bad

[dry pumice]

Precision Rifle would be considered throwing that level though. Sort of. Maybe.

Unless you're on code duty.

[narrow niche]

choke :D

m

choke dmr

[dry pumice]

Eh... It's fine, mostly.

Reload might get you killed though, easily.

[narrow niche]

:D

uhhhh

r5c3 scater?

wait c3 is starvation

right

[dry pumice]

I don't remember

[narrow niche]

seems legit

[tardy ingot]

[dry pumice]

I imagine reloading for 2.7s while a reactor wave of chargers and BBCs rushes at you is... Close call'ish.

You can get 4 charger kills or nuke one BBC but the rest...

[tardy ingot]

artek you do know that it was duod with 2 chokes ?

[dry pumice]

No, I did not.
Good players played very well and made a risky gun work? Colour me... Not at all surprised.

I'm saying I wouldn't risk it. HEL Rifle feels like a superior pick all around, except BBC situation.

[desert vessel]

BBC situation?

sus

[soft crater]

Call me crazy but did they also have hel revolvers?

[tardy ingot]

probably

but choke mods easily held the reactor for them

[spice hamlet]

dunno about u but I got my copy from allkey

if you don't mind getting a cd key from a website outside of steam you can get keys for over 50% discount

[lunar rain]

We didn’t even get to the reactor

[orchid raft]

is it possible to mine kill a birther with the new hitbox?

[ocean spindle]

qwq ah

yeah um i guess its a bit, funky gettin to that part

[lunar rain]

Got to the zone 89 and my friend bumped into a sleeper and that was the end of that run

[tardy ingot]

Might be more reliable?
It definetly did happen sometimes before

[high ice]

anyone else find 7D2 crazy

[ashen frigate]

I watched a solo player mine kill a birther back in OG R5A2 ; it should be doable, although not guarantied at all

[ocean spindle]

yeah :D

its batshit insane and i love it

[ashen frigate]

It is crazy good

[dry pumice]

Its a very unique level. I should try it again sometimes, it's very fun. I imagine HEL rifle destroys the bridge holdout.

[hidden ridge]

7 coin tosses?

ah you mean r7d2

[high ice]

it feels like 7 coin tosses on which room i have to go in

this shit so hard

[neon gust]

terminals

[tardy ingot]

R7D2 only has 1 coin flip for a zone tho

[latent obsidian]

Its such an important coin flip its the equivalent of 7 smaller ones

[ocean spindle]

its a coin of the size of 20 minutes

[hidden ridge]

it's a joke due to the fact that XdY in DnD or most tabletop terms it means rolling X number of dice with Y faces each

1d6 is throwing a single die, which has 6 faces/sides/however you call them in english

2d8 is 2 octagonal dice roll

[turbid horizon]

eva please don’t tel me you’ve never played dnd

[hidden ridge]

custom campaign GTFO themed when?

[turbid horizon]

i actually had an idea for that

[latent obsidian]

Casting fireball is not allowed

[hidden ridge]

fireblade joke?

[high ice]

eldritch blast time

[turbid horizon]

about making a more intricate stealth system, implementing GTFO based weapons and classes, etc

Would be cool tbh

[latent obsidian]

nah moreso that GTFO doesn't have aoe like grenades

[turbid horizon]

Only for like a one shot tho imo

[latent obsidian]

dude can you stop magic missiling the giants head I want to eldritch blast it

[turbid horizon]

honestly DnD with guns is always a banger

And GTFO kind of already has a damage system built right in, you’d just need an attack system and to add some variability to the damage

[latent obsidian]

Barbarians with hammers and suffering levels of exhaustion is already in GTFO itself

sneak attack extra damage from behind

[rain valley]

rogues with knives

[craggy pier]

sand mfs with scimitars

[olive robin]

Gtfo stealth dnd but you must roll a perfect 20 to solo a giant using knife

[narrow niche]

Oh god

Not even adjusted

Just a perfect 20

[lunar rain]

Anything lower and you get smacked

[narrow niche]

ong

[soft crater]

That sounds like a double roll

Because even vets wouldn't normally want to take on Giants with Knife.

[olive robin]

It's 20 to no damage it but 19 leaves you with 60% hp, 18 with 20, anything less and you die.

[quick pebble]

Whats with the alt and non alt and also can you play the non alt still?

I mean play them as in access then at all

[ocean spindle]

i have copy pasta for this
soo this game used to work like fortnite seasons
when Rundown 2 came out, it replaced Rundown 1, Rundown 3 replaced Rundown 2 and so on, everytime a new rundown came the old one got eliminated
on Rundown 7 tho, the devs decided to bring the old rundowns back, and they did it the ALT://Rundowns, the old rundowns but slightly changed and optimized

[civic wave]

you can, but it requires downloading the files from the internet and then changing the names/using a steam launch argument to launch the correct version

[ocean spindle]

oh

my dumbass

[smoky tree]

Hey guys! I'm kind of stuck in R1C1, and I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I'm a beginner, So can anyone give me any tips? I only have one friend who owns GTFO, and so the rest is bots.

[quick pebble]

Oh odd, the new system feels like it works a lot better

[civic wave]

Hold on bridge by the hole in the wall
1 biotracker on a bot, and then either 3 burst sentries or 2 burst + 1 sniper sentry
use 1 sentry at the start, place the others down later
run for resources between waves
use the small resource packs in the starting zones and carry the large ones with you to reactor
give bots a good loadout (Burst rifle + machine gun is normally what people say)

I think that's all the tips people usually give

"hit your shots" is another thing but it doesn't seem that constructive

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[smoky tree]

Where is the "start"?

Is it at the hole?

[civic wave]

the start of what

[smoky tree]

"use 1 sentry at the start"

[civic wave]

for the first reactor waves

[smoky tree]

Only the first reactor wave or like, 2 or 3?

[civic wave]

Place the first sentry down at the beginning and keep it down
place the others later on (or as and when you need to use them)

[smoky tree]

Ok.

[ocean spindle]

u dont need 3 sentries usually for all the level, just for the later waves which are harder
using all three and no shootin is gonna make ur ammo stay up but, ur tool very down

and tool is the magic of this level, u hoard it a lot ksmdkm

[smoky tree]

Alright.

[soft crater]

4 bios

4 auto sentries

4 Cfoam launchers

[smoky tree]

Is there a way to know if I got hit by friendly fire? I feel like I am getting hit by either my bots or my friend all the time.

[dry pumice]

Nope, only with your own eyes.

[civic wave]

normally by the damage numbers or your character screaming that they've just been shot by someone else

[dry pumice]

I'm not sure if that happens in the middle of combat

If it does - i fail to notice it

[ocean spindle]

usually if u see ur health deplete either more or less tha 5%, or 12%
those r the damage values of shooters and strikers, so if u see, 60 of ur health go to shit, or ur health going down rapidly for a bit

its bullets

... that or u got hit by a ton fuck of prohjectiles but

u would see those

u would see them with ur eyes as they approach u

[past mesa]

If the damage wasn’t 12 4 5 24 40 14

It was your team mate

[smoky tree]

Alright, now I know why I suddenly lose 50 health all the time.

[ocean spindle]

lol

[past mesa]

u play with bots?

[smoky tree]

Bots and a friend.

My friend is a little prankster sometimes.

[past mesa]

Do the bots have shotguns?

[smoky tree]

Yeah.

[past mesa]

Maybe don’t do that

Bots aren’t very considerate

With them

[ocean spindle]

friendly fire is more common in duos cause, i have the theory bots dont damage the person they r followin cause they look to be less prone to shoot, but in duos they dont see the other person

but also no dont

shotties are, TERRIBLE for bots in all senses

best guns for bots are always automatics, so they deal less dmg in friendly fire and long range cause they shoot enemies from afar

so machineguns, burst rifle, assault rifle...

[civic wave]

it's funny to give them burst cannon but that's another matter entirely

[smoky tree]

Is the PMR a good weapon for bots?

[civic wave]

safest is machine guns

[past mesa]

Pmr?

[ocean spindle]

pmr?

u mean the dmr?

[civic wave]

what on earth is a PMR? There's no patient medical records to my knowledge

[smoky tree]

Why?

[ocean spindle]

... q-q

[civic wave]

combination of gun stats and how the bots function

[vague bridge]

pesignated marksman rifle

[smoky tree]

Yeah, the DMR, my bad.

[civic wave]

don't worry about it too much

[past mesa]

They have aim bot and if they hit you don’t take 40

[ocean spindle]

nope, cause they try and aim but sometimes they can miss

[smoky tree]

Oh nice, I get tf2 snipers.

[ocean spindle]

same as to why precision rifle, sniper and revo dont work well with em

they can miss and, mis-use their wepons on enemies that are not made for those

like shootin sniper at small enemies or, spammin dmr to a big guy

[smoky tree]

Alright.

[ocean spindle]

in bot runs, ur human players are usually the ones that want, heavy weaponry to deal with bug enemies

so for c1 i would recommend, good long range weapons in at least one of u so someone can dealth with bigs safely

like, a sniper or, a burst cannon that is medium range...

[dry pumice]

Bots basically don't have any custom behavior for different guns (or if they do - no one can see it). They shoot every gun in almost the same way, with some >80% accuracy or something.
They best perform as a supressive fire turrets on legs, which is why machine guns seem to be a natural solution on them. Also they run out of ammo VERY slowly this way, so you'll have to babysit less.
But all the rapid enemy clearence (big enemies especially) are all on you.

[smoky tree]

So as a player, I should get either a sniper or burst cannon?

[smoky tree]

Ooh, I get it.

[ocean spindle]

yeah, or well maybs a chokemod tho its less dmg but more versatile for smols... or well u can play around it

long range guns for c1 are nice cause, its a very long hallway

so u ensure u shoot em before they attack u

[smoky tree]

So for long range, I assume I should get maybe a precision rifle? Maybe a sniper?

[dry pumice]

Sniper Rifle is a giant deleter, ammo is way too expensive on it for killing some random grunt

[ocean spindle]

sniper is very nice for bigs, its a oneshot in the head
precision rifle is a bit more made for small enemies, since it depends a lot on headshots and giants dont have a head after the first shoot so u gotta unload bodyshots

[dry pumice]

So yes, Precision Rifle (or HEL Rifle for that matter) are somewhat more... Flexible choices.

[civic wave]

precision for picking off small enemies (if you hit heads), otherwise probably something like hel rifle is a nice middle ground of killing smalls easily and putting work into bigs

[ocean spindle]

but idk maybs u could make it work

also hel rifle i knew i was missin one

that ones very nice too

same dmg as a chokemod but, its a single shot plus penetration

[smoky tree]

What about for my main weapon?

[ocean spindle]

... eh u can pretty much go for whatev u want ksmdkm

i mean its a long level its a hallway

so u can tell just by, lookin at shotgun, maybs its not the best option

but whatevs u wanna pick after that, carbine hel revo dmr if u wanna pick headshots maybs an automatic for when they come close-ish....

[smoky tree]

Is the bullpub rifle good for it?

[dry pumice]

Its alright

[ocean spindle]

its, nice yeah

[dry pumice]

used to be utter crap, but they buffed it

[ocean spindle]

it has nice range, and u could get some kills, just yeah has a bit of a long reload

[dry pumice]

It performs quite well at range and if you aim for heads (which is very easy because it basically has exactly 0 recoil)

[ocean spindle]

very usable tho i, i tbh like it a lot

i dont have to control recoil and my skill issue thanks that

[dry pumice]

Most main weapons are fairly well balanced and you can just pick the one you vibe with the most. Do you need a close range gun? Medium? High damage or lots of bullets? mains got it all

[craggy pier]

Except the high damage

[ocean spindle]

sawed off

[craggy pier]

Shotgunsdontcount

Sh

[ocean spindle]

:]

[dry pumice]

8.0 on HELRev is still pretty oomf

But yes, do keep in mind that MAIN and SPECIAL designations are very akward in this game.

[craggy pier]

Hel revolver has that fire rate too

[dry pumice]

What's actually going on here, is that your SPECIAL weapon is your ACTUAL MAIN Weapon. Its the gun that deals most of the damage.
The mains, on average, deal notably less DPS, but instead enjoy a lot of ammo to spare and are basically used as plan-B, switching-is-faster-than-reloading guns, unless you have some synergy going on like using Bullpup for medium range enemy harrasment, then you switch to Pump Action Shotgun for close range stopping power.

[craggy pier]

Well

Main guns generally take less damage from resupplies

That's some bad phrasing

They can deal less total damage per resupply

[minor fractal]

They tend to have access to lower DPS and longer TTKs as well, though.

[craggy pier]

Main is the weapon you have to take and special is the weapon you want to take

Now that we mention it how come there's such a large power disparity between these two

[minor fractal]

Not sure the exact design philosophy, but I think it's just a way ensuring that specials are specialized.

[neon gust]

damn its like primaries are you backup

[minor fractal]

Wave clear specials, for example, would just be doing what Main weapons do if Main weapons didn't have limitations.

[craggy pier]

i guess

[dry pumice]

It seems that you use the Main to kill that one guy that keeps annoying you, while you use Specials to nuke waves / giants / bosses (depends on gun) to prevent wipe scenarios.

[craggy pier]

Ye

You pull out specials when shtf

Or of course when balancing ammo which is 2/3 of the time cause they get more ammo

[neon gust]

They had the same design philosophy in payday th

its just old design with old terminoligy leaking into modern gaming

[dry pumice]

Like Half-Life 2

Where weapons from 1 to 5 kept increasing in power

[sturdy glen]

just give us 2 specials then

pleaseeeeeeee

[craggy pier]

I agree

[neon gust]

even tho its wording does make sense the primaries are well your primary as in your first choice and then specials are specialize weapons

[craggy pier]

Allow me to akimbo high cal

[craggy pier]

Yeah but specials are just better at most stuff which makes main obsolete

[neon gust]

Im assuming your r3tarded right now

[dry pumice]

I mean...

He is kinda right

[neon gust]

no

its your back up gun

you switch to that

[dry pumice]

If you just had HAR with like 500 ammo - you wouldn't need any other gun, ever

[neon gust]

instead of reloading

[craggy pier]

That doesn't make them necessary for anything

[neon gust]

it provides a different playstyle

[dry pumice]

The idea of GTFO where everyone just brings one special with 3 times the ammo does sound simultanously fun and boring.

[minor fractal]

They both get ammo.
Mains get access to plenty of utility.
Mains have more granular damage.

[ocean spindle]

why arw we talkin about this when its supposed to be a hard game whats the point of just givin u the most heavy weapons ever with tons of ammo

[dry pumice]

Imagine being the guy that brings scatter.

[minor fractal]

Like, if you consider your Main to be actually useless, just play DMR.

[craggy pier]

It's a meme it obviously would be really strong

[neon gust]

just because you follow caveman logic like if special better why no 2 special? then we would be playing a whole different game

[ocean spindle]

if a main its useless idk we talk so much about hel revo

being so good

[neon gust]

my man didnt play that much yet

he doesnt know about dmr utility

hel shotguns wall stagger

autopistol handling

he in the "excel sheet" stage of his gtfo development

[craggy pier]

Dmr can utilize my main dmg muted

Otherwise it stays in the locker

[neon gust]

he still gotta develope

[minor fractal]

MP has the highest kills per refill.

MP is the best gun

[neon gust]

fr fr no cap

[minor fractal]

That's a big undersell of DMR tbh

[craggy pier]

If you could choose to bring two specials would you even choose a main instead

Prolly not right

[minor fractal]

No, but that would be OP, lol.

[craggy pier]

That's my point

[neon gust]

he still on the dmr should oneshot stage

give it time

[craggy pier]

Main weapons are just kinda there

[neon gust]

he's gotta crack

[minor fractal]

It's also not exactly true, HEL Shotgun has an insane power level but is niche enough that 4-stacking it is really only a speedrun strat.

[craggy pier]

Didn't

[neon gust]

you will move from there eventually

just give it time

[craggy pier]

I literally didn't say that tho

[neon gust]

you did say on game we play dmr should one shot like its suppose to

[minor fractal]

Being weaker doesn't make them worthless or unimportant, though.

[dry pumice]

Hmmm.

Should try DMR+HEL Sentry combo

[craggy pier]

Because it would feel satisfying to use, not because it's a bad weapon

I just like my one shots

[dry pumice]

Sounds made in heaven

[neon gust]

sounds good its bad in application

[sturdy glen]

I still wish theyd just make dmr one shot but have shit ammo

[ocean spindle]

if u could bring 3 sentries in one persons slot u wouldnt bring any other weapons, so specials are useless

[neon gust]

you hs everything then you let autosentry with 1 damage kil them right

WRONG

[civic wave]

would that be any more effective than just having a burst sentry very far back so you can shoot the heads first

[neon gust]

sentry woiuld stagger them and fuck your aim

[civic wave]

or someone takes assault rifle or whatever

[neon gust]

unless your literally camping whatever chokepoint before they reach the sentry

[dry pumice]

That is what i was afraid of

[neon gust]

and worst of all

it will only kill whatever you actually hit

if you suck at aiming then its stupid

[craggy pier]

I know

Dmr plus knofe

Easy peasy

[dry pumice]

DMR is a gun that you use if you REALLY trust your teammates

Personally... I operate on DIY principles

[neon gust]

Artek with the Artek takes

[craggy pier]

Is there any special that brrts out bullets you could use to finish off 1hp strikers

[smoky tree]

So from what I'm reading here, the DMR is my go to?

Or nah?

[ocean spindle]

is useful

[craggy pier]

No, pick whatever you like

[dry pumice]

Hard sell. Strong gun, needs skill.

[ocean spindle]

at the end its just, whatever u wanna pick for a mission

[craggy pier]

Most main weapons are good except like 2-3

[dry pumice]

It has this very stupid feature where if you headshot a biter - it leaves him with exactly like 1 HP or even less... Like 0.1 or something?

[neon gust]

try out all weapons

dont listen to this fools

[dry pumice]

So someone else have to kill that bastard.

Oneshots shooters though.

[narrow niche]

use rifle

:D

[ocean spindle]

idk i see a lot of solo runs that use dmr

[craggy pier]

Ya don't listen to these FOOLS giving out identical advice

[neon gust]

if they read half the shit you guys where saying before he joined it would be horrible disinformation and biased statemtns

specially artek

[dry pumice]

This is not to mention DMR various mechanical flaws

[ocean spindle]

mechanical?

[dry pumice]

Like a dirty ass ACOG that needs bleach cleaning

[ocean spindle]

does it break in ur hands or somethin

[narrow niche]

💀

[smoky tree]

What were they saying?

[neon gust]

poopoo takes

doodoo if you will

[craggy pier]

It breaks down crying when you keep swearing about how shit it is when you suck at aiming it

[narrow niche]

carbine?

is like

pistol

[craggy pier]

Emotional abuse

[narrow niche]

clearly

[craggy pier]

Carbine is actually identical to the pistol

[dry pumice]

I would argue that the veterans are insane in their own right

[craggy pier]

Both of them use bullets to kill enemies

[dry pumice]

So pick your camp

[narrow niche]

yes yes

[neon gust]

this a good one

[craggy pier]

Tldr: use whatever main weapon you like best

It's hard to go wrong

[narrow niche]

use sawed off scatter with enemy distance boosters

trust

[craggy pier]

Trust the process

[neon gust]

hel shotgun its like chokemod

[craggy pier]

Interesting comparison

[dry pumice]

You almost had it right

[neon gust]

no it gotta more dumb

autopistol its like hel rifle

[craggy pier]

I mean it is the only main that can one mag a giant

So it has that

[dry pumice]

from front*

[craggy pier]

Of course

[smoky tree]

I think it is almost impossible to get to the back of a giant while being chased by it.

[neon gust]

hammer limb stagger

jump behind it

[narrow niche]

Choke mod? It's like hel rifle

[neon gust]

more like circle around it

[dry pumice]

Which is why you do it while it chases someone else. Another utility of having actual teammates.

[craggy pier]

Do you play with hamsters

[smoky tree]

A hamster.

Yes.

[dry pumice]

Back when HCP was introduced people kept saying its just Choke 2.0 and were offended at the idea of comparing it to Revolver

[craggy pier]

I was asking atrek but ok i guess it's more common than i thought

[dry pumice]

I don't even know what that question is supposed to mean.

No, i never had hamsters period.

[smoky tree]

My one and only friend who has GTFO is the most prankster person I know.

[craggy pier]

High damage special is basically just High damage special 2

[neon gust]

nobody saying its choke 2.0 your tripping

[craggy pier]

What does your team look like that they're so apparently unreliable

[neon gust]

everyone was saying its just better than choke

[craggy pier]

Choke will always be cooler

Imo

[neon gust]

because before hdcp choke was the safest choice if you wanted range

[dry pumice]

Were they?? I remember that people generally liked HCP for the vibe but i remember some hate regarding it being that dirty 8m fall off downgrade.

[neon gust]

no

[dry pumice]

That was almost a year ago though, so maybe i misremember something.

[neon gust]

everybody was using hcp because it was that good

yeah chokemod got slightly more range but who gives a shit when you reliably dish 30 damage in a single bullet

you can get fucked by chokemod spread

[craggy pier]

Your wrists

Probably care

That shit must hurt to use

[neon gust]

they nerf hcp and it was alright

things had its place

now they buff it again

[dry pumice]

I swear i remember the exact opposite of those takes... But maybe i'm having the shizo moment again. And no, those were not my takes - i'm in the "i prefer the slug" camp.

[neon gust]

you have a schizo moment

[ocean spindle]

no one hated high cal when i joined at least

a bit after or somethin r7

[neon gust]

chokemod needs to be buff

[smoky tree]

What is this HCP?

[ocean spindle]

high caliber pistol

[dry pumice]

High Caliber Pistol

[narrow niche]

shotgun? its really like hel gun

[ocean spindle]

the, dessert eagle

[dry pumice]

basically Desert Eagle

[craggy pier]

High cal pistol, easily thr most pliable special

[ocean spindle]

hah

i won

[narrow niche]

dezert

[ocean spindle]

the most what

[craggy pier]

Adaptable

[ocean spindle]

ah

[narrow niche]

flexible

[ocean spindle]

eh

i guess

[craggy pier]

And easy to use

[neon gust]

The ebst way to buff chokemod its to make it a hel weapon

[narrow niche]

"bendable" technically

[narrow niche]

give choke mod more fire rate

[smoky tree]

What's a "hel" weapon?

[neon gust]

my man at this point jump down into the game

[dry pumice]

I wanted to suggest that at some point, but i feared Eva will stab me with a pitchfork for it

[craggy pier]

They can hit multiple targets because they penetrate

[ocean spindle]

i dont think we need a buff on an already strong gun, but give a slap to the hcp on ammo or somethin, is a bit too over the top with the 30 dmg