gtfo-related-questions

[thorn dawn]

i was having tunnel vision i guess

[fierce walrus]

Lol

[summer matrix]

what be the difference between 'Maximized Window' and 'Fullscreen Windowed'?

[dry pumice]

Show / hide window borders, maybe?

[craggy pier]

thats right

[raw jackal]

skip to R4A2 or try R2E1 tonight?

[lone mortar]

R2E1

gid gud moment

[icy cave]

I mean it does not really matter at this point

[hidden ridge]

for what it's worth you can do r4a2 pe with vanilla bots

[raw jackal]

any way to install mods without a manager?

[icy cave]

you'd have to ask in the mod discord. Devs don't want it here. (I think not tho)

[raw jackal]

okay

[past mesa]

Yeah

[tacit plank]

Can someone simply explain to me the run down structure or history? Mostly jsut curious. I've seens some stuff where there were limited time run downs , or still even are now?

I've seen other peopel say once the game servers shut down or smth some rundowns lost forever -- which sounds hyperbole

[civic wave]

Rundowns are a set of missions
Previously when a new rundown came out the old one would become unavailable

More recently the devs started adding rehashed versions of the old rundowns to the game, and every rundown in the game is here to stay

[arctic marten]

yes, install bepinex and put mod .dlls into the plugins folder

[civic wave]

And all the files for every version of the game are out there, so those will never be lost

[tacit plank]

Ah ok so it sounds like at one point they were taking rundowns out but now if theyre in, theyre in. Good to know. Thank you 👍

[icy cave]

And everything taken out is back in "remastered"

[tacit plank]

Ah ok i see. 1-6 was removed, but back under ALT:// which i assume is the remastered

and thent he alpha/beta rundowns prolly the only ones truly "gone"

[regal inlet]

Basically alpha rundown is R1

[dry pumice]

Pretty much.

[icy cave]

Those missions were put back in in the original rundowns and are thus also back in Alts

[dry pumice]

Differences are minimal and frankly average Joe doesn't care.

[icy cave]

R3C1 was the end I think of the alpha or beta.

[fierce walrus]

wasnt R3C1 the only level in alpha?

[cold quarry]

Because these guns aren't really based in reality

[ocean spindle]

u know videogames

[hidden ridge]

only level in alpha

and in alpha it didnt have ||chargers||

[neon gust]

It be like tarkov

Muh realism

[cold quarry]

tbf I do think the AR/Burst AR would look way better with straight mags

[dry pumice]

Literally just lazy to replace mag model

We know they have it

[ocean spindle]

or maybs cause they think it looks better with it and just dont want to

in general i just dont like drum mags so if it where for me id have none

anything that isnt a straight mag is not for me
funny when im so gay

[olive robin]

High caliber bullets maybe?

Cause sleepers do just kinda lose their entire heads or limbs

So I'd guess most guns are decently large caliber or something

[short harness]

are they adding achievements? that would be so cool bro

[lime tapir]

Is there a resource for suggested loadouts/overall performance of equipment? I have looked a bit on YouTube and everything appears to be for a specific rundown

[icy cave]

they were testing stuff but are not sure to add anything

[dry pumice]

Carbine
Combat Shotgun
Hammer
Burst sentry

0 brain loadout

[icy cave]

that's the point you adapt to the mission. Meta is carbine/hel revolver and then a choke or MG

Hammer

and then when going blind on a mission you just take burst, mine, foam and bio

[lime tapir]

Thanks for the insight guys

[tardy ingot]

choke is not meta

[icy cave]

Choke was my little guilty pleasure

as long as there are bozo's telling peeps to take Spear, I will tell peeps to take choke

[flint silo]

im doing r7a1 and every time i type in recycle group 7a42 it says it isnt a command, do i have to do something else before i do it? ive typed it like 8 different ways

[short harness]

darn i hope they do

[short harness]

are you using spaces or underscores

[flint silo]

underscores

[short harness]

if youre having trouble try typing commands

see if its there

[flint silo]

first one was recycle_group_7a42

[short harness]

you can also type "rec" and then press tab

only one underscore

recycle_group 7a42

[flint silo]

i tried that, as well as no underscores, recycle group_7a42, and underscores between 7 a 4 and 2

thats why i think maybe theres something i need to do before

[jagged shore]

are you in the dark zone

[tardy ingot]

wrong terminal 99% yep

[short harness]

are you at the right terminal

i was gonna say

[jagged shore]

it's not in the zone that he says it to you while you're in, to the west there's another door that you go through that has another terminal that you do it on

[flint silo]

ooo, alright ill try that and report back

thank ya

[jagged shore]

and for the record it is RECYCLE_GROUP_7A42
but you can do REC and then press tab

to see if there is a command like that on any terminal you can input COMMANDS

[short harness]

oh my bad i misremembered

but yeah the last 2 i said

[jagged shore]

oh my bad then

[short harness]

ur good thx for correcting me

[flint silo]

it worked, thanks for the help lol

[short harness]

👍

[icy cave]

I hope they do to see the meltdown on steam discussions of all those folks who demanded achievements but obviously will never be able to complete em 😏

[short harness]

that would be quite funny

[dry pumice]

They are obligated to unlock them for us for free if they're not gonna actually finish them

Or delete them, if steam even allows that...

[cyan pewter]

is the sniper with the thermal scope actually worth using

[dry pumice]

Yes.

[cyan pewter]

k

[dry pumice]

It oneshots small enemies and scouts to the head from a decent range and you got whole 12 bullets, so that's a lot of coprses if your aim is flawless

[cyan pewter]

I found it nice bc you can spot enemies thru smoke and it's just a good ranged weapon but I wasn't sure if it was outclassed

[dry pumice]

I think its' main competitor is The Revolver

[cyan pewter]

really??

[dry pumice]

They're basically the same gun damage wise... Almost. As far as killing small enemies goes. Revolver might fail you on a scout unless you're flanking it, but otherwise - headshot still oneshots smalls.
It got half the ammo, but twice the reloading speed.

[cyan pewter]

ah

I would probably prefer the sniper in that case

[dry pumice]

HEL Gun is another rival, but that thing got enough quirks of its own to exist in its' own headspace

[cyan pewter]

got it

[dry pumice]

There is also a particular enemy type that gets countered to shit by precision rifle

Its one of my personal comfort weapons. I'm a ranged coward AND blind, so ability to pop long range targets even in total darkness is great.

Just gotta have some patience for that 3.3s reload time

...and the glitchy-ass thermal that occasionally makes you see doubles like you're drunk

[mossy aurora]

I'm a melee coward

[modest monolith]

shame

[craggy pier]

are boxed supposed to be flipped the wrong way?

Im so confused? can I even finish the mission if they are

[ocean spindle]

its a bug in the patch of like 1 2 days ago im sorry
devs said they were doin a fix on twt

[craggy pier]

so can I not finish the mission

[ocean spindle]

im sorry, if u cant find like a funky angle to open the box from im afraid not

[craggy pier]

really?

[ocean spindle]

ik, it sucks ass, hopefully its fixed asap, im so sorry

[craggy pier]

they should at least make them break with melee temporarily

[ocean spindle]

if its locked with a padlock maybs u could try with lockmelters

[minor fractal]

Melters tend not to reach, but you can break it w/ melee.

Aim above the box a tiny bit.

[tall coyote]

@ocean spindle why are you apologizing for a mistake the devs made 💀

[ocean spindle]

i feel bad for their run i say sorry for everythin

i am that type of person

[past mesa]

Because they are one of many dev plants

Sent to drive the few gtfo players insane

[cold quarry]

that tracks

[minor fractal]

50 minutes, and no response?

Suspicious.

[verbal dragon]

hey so

i got a freind

trying to join

but hes stuck on waiting for master

and whenever he actually gets on

hes in the "wrong lobby"

where theres no one else

and we can't se ehis character

he was playing fine a while ago

and he redownloaded recently

then this happens

any clue?

[cold quarry]

that did not need to be like 15 messages

have you both tried verifying games

[neon gust]

But
This
Is
Better
Tho
Lmao

[verbal dragon]

my bad i got a chronic condition where I type like that LMAO

[floral acorn]

usually funni stuff after lobby "join" is due to someone doing vpn, "usually"

[verbal dragon]

oh really?

i see i see

[tidal ibex]

ayo, are logs on random terminals within a level or like on predetermined terminals? since levels themselves are static

[icy cave]

predetermined

If it's for reactor codes tho it's 2 or 3 predetermined and It will rng which one has it

And if it's for uplinks It will also rng between 2 or 3 terminals

Lore logs tho are static

[tidal ibex]

ooh okay
meant lore logs ye
is there a list somewhere with which terminals have logs?

[icy cave]

ooof check #gtfo-lore but you can also find all logs there ready to read

[tidal ibex]

mkay
ik logs are compiled on wiki n here just me n the group i play with wanted to find em ingame
and want that list to know if we would need to go into zones for em that otherwise we could skip

[icy cave]

Oh boy, well good luck and enjoy the next 300 hours 😅

[desert falcon]

I can send you a list if you want, have to fix some formatting tho, I normally just make lists for quick references.

[tidal ibex]

thanks lmao
we are planning to go through all rundowns so quite a few hours will be spent indeed

[tidal ibex]

yes please

[icy cave]

if not carried easily the 300 I mentioned, probably up to 500. there will be some walls that take time

Enjoy the deep dive

[worthy stratus]

did someone say Rock and Stone!

[lone mortar]

Rock and stones

But im kinda of a mushroom guy more

[worthy stratus]

Spores and gloom!

[clever flame]

We're rich!

[heady moat]

We fight for Rock and Stone!

[fierce walrus]

muSHRooM!

[soft crater]

[grand cliff]

if you dont rock and stone, you ain't going home!

love the funny dwarf game

[soft crater]

Bug exterminator: I'm moderately short. I drink alcohol on a regular basis more than I should. I exterminate bugs with malicious Kindness.

[dry pumice]

"No dwarf left behind... Right?"

[vague bridge]

do enemy body part multipliers affect mines

[fierce walrus]

they might but its too unreliable to actually utilise

[sturdy glen]

yes, they do

[sturdy glen]

but this

the only time you can really use it is tank

which even with the hitbox changes is still not a 100% strat

[olive robin]

a mine at giant head height is funny but too inconsistent

also im not sure how it calculates cause mines have a 3m x 15m hitbox or something

which would easily catch both weakspot and non weakspot

[cinder tulip]

DID I HEAR A ROCK AND STONE?!

[timid grove]

ROCK AND STONE BROTHAH

[vague bridge]

why not mothers

[weak root]

ROCK AND STONE TO THE BONE

[sturdy glen]

hitbox + way she moves just makes it impractical

• its the same amount of tool even if you pull it off as killing a tank for something thats generally a lot less resource intense

dont think ive seen someone even attempt a mine kill on a mom the entire time ive known of this game

[turbid horizon]

ROCK AND STONE

[turbid horizon]

Might be easier now

[past mesa]

Definitely wonder if there is a good line up

[olive robin]

why do people like the scatter gun? i find it to have too little ammo and too much spread for me to like it

i get it one shots giants but konig does the same at a distance and has 1 more bullet

[icy cave]

Tanks and mothers I guess. haven't used it in Alt

[olive robin]

If i usually take konig (for giant killing duty) what alternatives would be recommended

i was looking at the high cal or hel rifle

[dry pumice]

Its a close range sniper with 0 skills requirements.

Casually approach giant
128 damage straight to the stomach

[olive robin]

this is true

i just cant use a gun with machine pistol range but sniper ammo

[dry pumice]

Warpgate was using it a lot during my R6D4 run

Every time he found a room with a couple of giants he just decided to not bother with the whole stealth sync thing

He would just rush behind them and start blasting

[olive robin]

i do that with the konig, but i snipe them from outside the room

gg we literally do the same thing in opposite ways

[dry pumice]

And it still has an extra utility of actually being usable into waves

Because you can still deal some major damage to grouped up enemies if they are too packed

[olive robin]

that too ig

real ones put down a mine on the floor and lead enemies over it

[icy cave]

terrible terrible strat

[olive robin]

yes i blew myself up

[icy cave]

anyways sniper and scatter don't matter. you take CB or Choke and you call it a day

[olive robin]

cb?

[icy cave]

sorry CS Combat Shotgun

[neon gust]

C0k and ball

[olive robin]

oh for giant killing?

[dry pumice]

For everything killing

[olive robin]

ah

[icy cave]

I leave that to you

[sturdy glen]

scattergun is for obliterating bosses as client

ppl mainly use it for fun, especially now that BC is back to being king

[neon gust]

^ that and cqc levels woth a lot of giants

[civic wave]

burst cannon goes big but the recoil kinda sucks

[olive robin]

i really wanna use burst cannon but the recoil

literally the recoil makes me immediately sad

[sturdy glen]

oh yeah

scatter also fucks up snatchers

[tardy ingot]

CB? BC?
Burst cannon, yes
Choke no. Why choke lol

[icy cave]

Cause choke slaps

[tardy ingot]

ah CS

[olive robin]

choke has the 27 total bullets with a 4 round clip

idk why

why not just make it a multiple of 4

[tardy ingot]

choke doesnt stand out anymore @icy cave

sry to tell ya

[olive robin]

1 more bullet just 1 more bullet on choke all im asking

[sturdy glen]

cuz all the guns run off the same system of ammo

[tardy ingot]

It gets 9 per refill

[dry pumice]

Same reason why Heavy Assault rifle is 149 / 30 bullets

[sturdy glen]

and most of the time it does not end up clean

[dry pumice]

They don't seem to actually have power over bullet numbers, only over ammo refill efficiency

[olive robin]

i would greatly appreciate gun max ammo being an even number

[icy cave]

Don't matter it does what it does very well. also easy always ammo on that thing

[dry pumice]

They change a number from 1.5 to 1.6 and whatever bullet number you get - that's what you get

[olive robin]

but the answer to my original question of "what replaces konig for giant hunting?" was combat shotgun/burst cannon?

[tardy ingot]

Its good, just overshadowed at this point

1. boss killing? Sniper/BC/scatter
2. giants? “-“
3. hybrids? Sniper
4. chargers? Hel rifle
5. smalls/all rounder, high cal

[sturdy glen]

choke mod exists for the instant mag dump at this point

in which scatter is

literally that

but you get 2

[icy cave]

If yall gon defend Spear, imma keep putting choke forward simple as

[tardy ingot]

Sniper is easily the best anti giant gun

Limitless range. Fucks giants and hybrids and safe ohko

Scatter is another choice but trades range for easier use (worse vs hybrids/chickens tho) and other perks

[tardy ingot]

Who defended spear lol

its useable now

no longer troll

i still consider it bottom 2

[icy cave]

All of you on patch drop.

[sturdy glen]

idk I heard most ppl saying it was still shit just less

[olive robin]

that is what i thought initially. so konig is still optimal giant killer?

[silk radish]

I like choke because it’s got decent damage, good range, and is somewhat forgiving if you’re not completely accurate

[dry pumice]

Yeah, ability to whiff your shots and still deal like 25 damage is kinda on its' feature list also when compared to high cal

[neon gust]

Chokemod its a poors man burst canon but you guys are not ready for thar conversation

[dry pumice]

What if we buff choke's reload speed

almost 3 seconds for 4 bullets is fucking mean

[tardy ingot]

? Show me, me saying that

anyhow. Choke is fine, my tierlist litteraly shows that opinion

its not like it was nerfed

other stuff just outvalues it rn

[past mesa]

I think spear buff isn’t good

tbh it fixed none of the issues

I had with spear

[tardy ingot]

it did tho

[sturdy glen]

the sprint buff is just stamina bait

[tardy ingot]

oh „you“ had

[sturdy glen]

but I dont think spear users ever worried about that anyways

[tardy ingot]

sprint buff has values

specifically with scouts

[past mesa]

Yeah but spear was fine with scout

[sturdy glen]

I just wish theyd given it occi tap

[tardy ingot]

Also you can move around more fluidly by not cuckong sprint or charging when pressing the other

[dry pumice]

Yeah, was lame to figure out i can't even quick tap a shooter from behind

Yet hammer still can

A precision weapon can't kill a precision-weak enemy... Pathetic.

[tardy ingot]

spear being meh vs smalls, great vs bosses/giants is more interesting but makes spear worse

if you just want to have hammer 2.0 fhats boring af

and guess what

people will complain again anyhow

[silk radish]

Hey at least spear can break a mom tumor at full charge now, that’s a neat fact

[dry pumice]

Now that it matters, since the goal is dealing damage and not popping tumors

[sturdy glen]

too bad it doesnt matter if youre client and you cant stagger chain anyways

[dry pumice]

It definetely was a quality of life improvement for me, enemies do seem to generally pop easier now and i can relax on charger % a little bit

But still, nothing was radically changed. I still kill a giant in 4 stabs even if the first one was oki

Until occi deals like 90 damage to a giant - its not enough

Or, well... 85.1. To make sure 17.5 + 17.5 = 35 normal stabs can finish the job

[past mesa]

Spear occi is really good on giants now actually

[dry pumice]

Its better

[past mesa]

cause it plus hammer make a tap a kill

[dry pumice]

But it didn't actually changed anything aside from fringe numbers

[past mesa]

Consistent two shots is really good

[tardy ingot]

??????

it changed mom/tank/hybrid/chicken hits to kill

it made giant killing more lenient

[tardy ingot]

Yeah clients dealing 131 dmg vs hammers 100 definetly isnt different on mom

[past mesa]

But you lose out

On stagger

Big deal

[sturdy glen]

lose stagger, clients get 200 damage per tumour on mom vs 126

its probably a tiny by faster ig

[past mesa]

Yup

[sturdy glen]

idk charge speeds

but its harder to pull off and shes definitely birthing

[past mesa]

It is faster but you don’t get stagger chain

[tardy ingot]

What

[sturdy glen]

and if were not talking full melee kill

[tardy ingot]

oh you mean hammer

Hitting twice

[sturdy glen]

then hammer start

means no birth solo

[tardy ingot]

but why care about 200 dmg per tumor

when you can do 231

lol

[past mesa]

Because stagger matters

[sturdy glen]

itd be 226, but yea that is true

[past mesa]

500 stagger vs 126 stagger

[sturdy glen]

the stagger IS the main thing ^

[tardy ingot]

thats where you get hammer first

[sturdy glen]

• no coordination required

[tardy ingot]

hammer starts, 100 dmg
Spear follows, 131 dmg

[sturdy glen]

and also

spear cant be host

[past mesa]

Spear can’t host!

[sturdy glen]

ig

its not that much worse

since host has to hit first either way

so host + spear coordinating

[tardy ingot]

spears + hammers > hammers for mom

if you say it doesnt matter

then the whole argument doesnt matter

[sturdy glen]

the mom staggering is what matters

[tardy ingot]

so we can all vibe again

[sturdy glen]

we dont disagree its more damage

[tardy ingot]

2 hammers easily do that with 2 spears

[past mesa]

Na hammer > hammer plus spear

So much more room for failure

[tardy ingot]

failure is a skill issue

unless people say burst cannon is bad cuz room for failure

[sturdy glen]

failure is worse in a mom melee kill situation, cuz it normally means she runs around birthing

so you cant even clean up the babies well

[tardy ingot]

can not believe chill dude is against birthing

when poor mom

just wants to let her hell babies loose

[sturdy glen]

I HATE single mothers

[past mesa]

It also makes that there needs to be a set of players there

[tardy ingot]

chill dude in your area hates hot single mothers

i mean tbh unless we troll you just freaking BC or scatter the mom

lol

[sturdy glen]

true

both of which generally go better with a hammer start tho

[finite oracle]

is it possible to kill a scout with a fully automatic weapon?

[sturdy glen]

yes

I wouldnt really try it tho

[civic wave]

if it's the right weapon, you shoot it in the back of the head, hit every shot and maybe get a bit lucky, sure

[finite oracle]

can the knife one shot scouts?

[past mesa]

With enough latency everything is possible

[sturdy glen]

can I have enough latency to charge my knife twice to the front of the head

[civic wave]

to the back of the head, yes

[past mesa]

Yeah

[finite oracle]

can you one shot it from any point if you have the syringe?

[sturdy glen]

still needs head

[civic wave]

you know we've been getting the "can knife kill a scout" question a lot, I wonder how many people prefer asking a person to searching the wiki

[sturdy glen]

I dont think the wiki is super popular for this game

[finite oracle]

i didnt know there was a wiki

[dry pumice]

I wish spear would charge ever so slightly faster

Just a little bit

Like 10% or something

[past mesa]

"little bit"

could we give hel revo 10% dmg

it is just a little bit

[dry pumice]

Considering humans are incapable of noticing difference of less than 7% - yeah, 10% is a safe start unless there's some stupid breakpoint involved.

Paritcularly i'm interested on timing breaking giants' limbs between staggers.

The current timing is somewhat anxiously tight. Its not frame-perfect, but it does gets me worried.

[verbal zinc]

https://clips.twitch.tv/EasyAmazonianPorcupineSaltBae-QBykoCtHhzpkERYM

[dry pumice]

Having an extra 0.1 of a second of safety could be an interesting thing. As well as generally be a notable improvement on Spears' still subpar performance.

Especially considering the damn thing is still incapable of moving around being where it needs to be

Corner ambush playstyle is just not it.

[cold quarry]

only change spear needs is sprint speed penalty going from 25% --> 20%

[dry pumice]

Big Doubt

But it wouldn't hurt either

I can barely tell the speed difference

[cold quarry]

not every melee needs to be great at killing groups of smalls

[dry pumice]

I actually agree

Its still not that amazing against giants though

[olive robin]

I don't like spear because I like the fast small weapons

[cold quarry]

its pretty significant

spear and sledge can duo giants in an instant

[mossy aurora]

They should give spear the pierce back

[dry pumice]

Call me when it can oneshot a hybrid with an occi, then we can talk about "not everyone must be killing smalls"

[olive robin]

Spear should skewer enemies like a kebab

[dry pumice]

That too, but i guess they can't code that properly

I still dont understand if it actually works or not

I keep aligning people and it just doesn't fucking work

Big F

Or why won't they give it Dagger's sleep bonus

Like goddamn - that would change so much

[mossy aurora]

pierce doesnt work

[dry pumice]

I occasionally get a double kill and i have no idea what's the difference

Like once in 3 expeditions or something

I guess same shit that allows Hammer to do the same

[ocean spindle]

those are the melee hittin an enemy in the same frame as another i think
pierce is going, through an enemy

[silk radish]

I’ve had success with spear pierce, but you need the two enemies to be pretty close to each other to get that effect

[craggy pier]

is the fix for rotated boxes just for r6? or also r1b1?

[dry pumice]

hehehehehe

Technically it was for R6

But it broke everyone else

If you experience any - report them to the devs via #1049599987878723635

[craggy pier]

so r1b1 shouldnt have them anymore right

[dry pumice]

I think they applied another fix so it shouldn't

[ocean spindle]

they did the fix for r6b2 and today another for the others

[glacial mulch]

Hey got a quick question for you guys I’m fairly new to gtfo how randomly generated is gtfo. I know loot spawns and the sleepers are but what about level design?

[ocean spindle]

the level objectives, rooms n zones includin zone numbers are always the same

the only thing that changes are enemy and loot positioning, not the number, just the position

[dry pumice]

Double that. Levels are always the same, although one of the devs claims you can notice some small tables and crates appear and dissapear every so often. Personally never noticed.

[craggy pier]

yes some objects n boxes are random

[mossy aurora]

you can also have room variation but its rare and not intended

rooim tile

[glacial mulch]

Okay that’s what I thought because I was told there was random generation just didn’t know the extent of it

[solid geyser]

this is a v dumb question, can I do rundowns/rundown levels in any order?

[cold quarry]

yeah

[solid geyser]

like can I do R1A1 and then R4C2 or whatever

nice

[cold quarry]

oh no

you have to unlock them

but you can start whatever rundown you want, in any order

[solid geyser]

kk so the levels I unlock, the rundowns I can start in order order?

[past mesa]

If you join people you can do whatever’s

[cold quarry]

like you can do Rundown whatever, A1

[past mesa]

You just have to host levels you have unlocked

[cold quarry]

but you need to beat A1 to unlock that rundown's b1

[solid geyser]

when I join others, it unlocks for me too right?

[cold quarry]

only if you beat it

[past mesa]

Yeah

[solid geyser]

like if I finish a1

kk

sweet thanks!

so if I join someone and do c1, do I unlock d1?

[cold quarry]

I think so

ive never done it but i'd assume

cause thats how it works normally

[solid geyser]

nice

[past mesa]

Yeah you wouldn’t unlocked c1 tho

[solid geyser]

word

[night junco]

Wanna finish r1c1 (reactor level) since my friends abandoned me. Is there a way to make the bots pick up a specific item? My first attempt they all picked up med packs and 2 of them being 2-3 usage. Can I have them pick up tool refills or ammo instead?

[ocean spindle]

no, sadly just bots take whatevs and run with it

[night junco]

well that sucks

[ocean spindle]

ur usually the one that should b carryin tool refiils

or u can like bring some near the reactor from zones afar

[night junco]

yeah im gonna have to spend half an hour moving all of them much closer lol

[vestal girder]

you can force the bot to use med by jumping off high place to below 80% HP

I do this unironically all the time

[cold quarry]

sadly no, they prefer meds every time

[bold atlas]

Did they change the R5C2 level, im getting shadows in the reactor alarm

[cold quarry]

might've, I don't remember that

[bold atlas]

Might be a bug or smth, I only got it in the 2nd or 3rd wave

[lone mortar]

no

there is no shadows in

[bold atlas]

so just a buig

[lone mortar]

where did u encounter them?

[bold atlas]

The 2nd wave of the reactor

I feel like this level is bugged rn

[lone mortar]

yeah no

[bold atlas]

mother took the whole time to get here and when we opened the door for the last terminal they spawned there too

[lone mortar]

just bum rush her lol

[bold atlas]

scout woke up in the last terminal zone because they kept on spawning after the timer ran out lol

idk what is going on rn

[lone mortar]

first of all

try to have everyone on the bulk head door to clear wthe wave lol

[bold atlas]

no this was during the last wavre

dont people usually defend in the tank room

[lone mortar]

you can

but bulk head door leaves you with only one spawn point pathing

and you still have to get the code from the dark zone

after getting the keycard from tank room

[bold atlas]

i see

[lone mortar]

first zone=> side sec door into class IV charger/Charger scouts room=> tank room => dark zone

[amber phoenix]

Alright real question, why does Zone_330 exist in R7C3 Overload, is it really just supposed to be a resource room, or was it supposed to be an alternate uplink location that was broken, it has 3 terminals in it.

[ashen frigate]

There are a couple of "resource rooms" in R7C3, which can be used throughout the "GTFO / running" part. The one in the Overload sector makes less sense than the one in Main though, which can be usefull when you do not go for PE and might lack resources or doors to use for wave clearing / funneling

[icy cave]

you might have someone cheating enemies in in your lobby

Would have to run it but if other teams don't get shadows on the waves then you had someone doing the funny

[civic wave]

I heard from someone that I trust that shadows started spawning, and that was last night

Maybe something to do with running low on enemy wave configs to use

[icy cave]

In that case we seem to have R7C2 all over again

[icy cave]

@shadow flower devs aware of this?

[shadow flower]

When did this start?

[civic wave]

Presumably with the patch that also brought changes to r5e1

[tardy ingot]

There is shadow in r5c2 extreme reactor waves

[lone mortar]

there is?

[tardy ingot]

Tho professor scaler definetly has more distinct info on this

[lone mortar]

ill play it later to see lol

[tardy ingot]

Its not many iirc

[civic wave]

Me when I spread misinformation on the internet

[tardy ingot]

i mean it might not have been the case before alt r6

i honestly barely remember the reactor waves aside from the last

Its just a mix of smalls, giants, hybrids and the rare charger

[brisk swift]

Can confirm I’ve seen shadows in the r5c2 reactor immediately after the initial r6 update and never before

[raw mist]

When someone has the booster for supply/med efficiency on, does it only apply to themselves or on teammates as well? for example, if my friend has a med efficiency booster on, will he:

1. heal himself for more when he uses a medipack
2. heal others for more when he uses a medipack
3. will be healed for more when being healed by someone else
   Will all of these 3 apply?

[brisk swift]

If the game is still limited to 256 wave settings, is it possible that r6 might’ve messed with some of the older rundowns? I recall seeing the wave settings were full by the time r5 released @shadow flower

[brisk swift]

1 and 2

[raw mist]

ah so if someone else that is not him uses it, there's no benefit?

[brisk swift]

Those boosters impact the amount of things people get when the person with the booster uses packs

Hopefully that is clear

[raw mist]

Ah alright, thank you!

[dry pumice]

Yes. He becomes the dedicated distributor, if he can help it.

[bold atlas]

Hi! Sorry for pinging you again but here is basically what happened. Basically:

1. I got shadows only in the second wave of the extreme reactor level,

2. during the last reactor sequence, the wave kept on spawning even after the timer ran out (because the waves started to spawn inside the zone with the last terminal code and we opened the door after the alarm sequence was finished).

3.Lastly, monsters kept on spawning after the timer ran out in the overload level, there were multiple spawning roars after the scan had finished.

I don’t have recording of this sadly

[past star]

Could have just been backed up waves

But also I’m not sure cause I don’t play that lvl

[bold atlas]

probably could be but the waves kept coming until the last code was due so idk either

[past mesa]

R5c2 tho this makes sense if it broke

[past star]

When are you on today

I think we attempt some c1 or b2 hitless

[lusty bramble]

i think you need to find more games to play

[past star]

I’m good with rocket league thanks

I mean silly car game

[past star]

Nice fortnite pfp

[waxen jetty]

cs2

[arctic marten]

why is your pfp a steaming pile of shit

[past star]

[bold atlas]

Steaming pile of shit

[finite oracle]

is it possible to make a small hole in a door to peek through using the melee weapons?

or not a thing

[icy cave]

Not a thing

you got a biotracker to tell you what's behind tho

[past mesa]

Yeah

Not a hole but you can widen the crack

[finite oracle]

like can you shoot thru it?

[past mesa]

You can shoot and see through

[finite oracle]

i tried it with a knife and it didnt work

[past mesa]

You are just not understanding

[past mesa]

The cracks in the door

Get bigger when the door is damaged

And you can shoot through them/see through them

[finite oracle]

and this works with any melee?

[past mesa]

Yeah

[finite oracle]

ok

[past mesa]

Hell it works if you use a sleeper to bang on it

[rain valley]

what are the worst weapons stats wise?

[tardy ingot]

for what?

[dry pumice]

to avoid using i guess

[minor fractal]

Def hard to evaluate for this patch, but I'd say pump shotty and choke shotty in Special.

In Main? Probably Assault Rifle.

Oh, and Autopistol.

[craggy pier]

is it because of the hi cal buff?

[tardy ingot]

auto pistol loses a bunch of stats for stagger and pen yea

otherwise definetly AR

[dry pumice]

Assault Rifle did got left behind a little bit. Its not bad, just... Whatever.
HEL AutoPistol is a memegun basically.

For specials... Hard to say at this point. Most of them are fine for what they do.
Probably Choke mod because of that tight ass 4-shell tube and innapropriatly slow reload of like 2.5 seconds or something.

[minor fractal]

Partly, I think Choke has been "good out of necessity" for a very long time.

High cal isn't so much beating it because it's better, but because it is an alternative.

Pump is more-so just a bit weak.

Its RoF is slightly slow, its ammo is a bit low for its role, it has weaknesses in range and consistency, etc.

It and AR are very much behind on weapon power creep.

[tardy ingot]

its rly just ammo

for shotgun

its definetly not behind in power otherwise

[minor fractal]

Eh, I really only value it for niche utility these days.

[rain valley]

lol I was literally just reading a reddit post you made, making a tier list of the weapons, altho that was back when altR3 came out

[olive robin]

Since piercing lets you hit the same enemy repeatedly (hit arm, then it hits torso, then other arm cause they are lined up) does that mean every pierce does damage? or is it only the first hit that does damage

[sturdy glen]

only first hit

but the amount of pierces is reduced every time it happens

[olive robin]

sick

only detrimental

[rain valley]

tbh I like the AR, felt normal to use, maybe that's why I thought it was doing good

this always seems to happen when I get really into a game lol, I try all the weapons, find one I like, ask others about what's good or not, and it turns out my favorites are low tier or bottom tier lmao

[craggy pier]

ar is secretly S tier

the vets dont want u to know

[dry pumice]

That's more so a statement of how decent balance is right now. If AR felt fine then so will any other main weapon.

[rain valley]

I mean, it doesn't really matter right? all the guns are viable right?

[dry pumice]

95% of them

Actually its literally onlt Choke that bothers me

It just doesn't seem to have a place right now

Its outperformed by other fellow 30 damage guns, like High Cal, HEL Rifle

[rain valley]

choke just has low mag and long reload right?

[craggy pier]

reload is fine

[dry pumice]

Yes. High Cal deals same damage, got 2 extra bullets and even reloads slightly faster

[craggy pier]

its just weird to use

[dry pumice]

Now melee is the main topic of debate

Main contension: Hammer beats everything. Every time.

[rain valley]

so far i like knife clearing rooms

[dry pumice]

Oh and sentries

[rain valley]

and as for specials, I like the hi cal and the auto shotty. and I'm starting to get a feeling for the arbalist

[sturdy glen]

choke just no longer has a role in the specials

it doesnt even have the "special role" of macroing to fire all 4 shots at once anymore cuz then its literally just scattergun with 1 in the mag

[dry pumice]

So... What are our options? Increased mag? Reduced reload speed? Maybe trying to play with different damage numbers?

[craggy pier]

@craggy pier how much charge up is needed for a limb break on giants

[dry pumice]

Imho half the reload time and it'll be perfectly fine

Something like 1.7 or 1.8

Then it will join the "quick loaders" team of specials, like Revo and HAR

[sturdy glen]

I Think thatd probably be the best solution tbh

[craggy pier]

70-80% you'll be fine

also how long is the long stagger?

[rain valley]

HAR is fast reload? O.O

[dry pumice]

Its only 2.3

[craggy pier]

dont know the exact time only the feel

[dry pumice]

That's fast by special standards

[rain valley]

koo

[dry pumice]

Half of them are like 2.5+

And some are 3

[rain valley]

do the 2 machine guns have the same reload speed?

[sturdy glen]

the exact charge for limb break is 64.2% assuming you got full back damage, stagger is 49.2%

[dry pumice]

Arbalist 3.5s
Veruta 4.0s

[sturdy glen]

so roughly 2/3rds and 1/2 charge respectively

[craggy pier]

how long do they stagger for when you break a limb

1.5 seconds?

1 second?

[sturdy glen]

no idea

[ocean spindle]

abouuuuut second and, 1.2 or so
just by memory

from hit to slap

if ut too close

from hit to scream, more like 1.5 yeah, or 1.6 or somethin

[rain valley]

I like both the arbalist and the veruta, but it just feels so much harder to use the veruta lol

[dry pumice]

That's normal yeah. It got much meaner recoil, but if you can get it under control - you get better damage output

[craggy pier]

the muzzle flash or recoil?

[rain valley]

both, but I like the power and large mag

[craggy pier]

can relate to flash but recoil is fine if u played cs before you'll know

[rain valley]

I think I'll use arbalist when I wanna play it safe and veruta when I wanna feel like a bad ass

[rain valley]

never played cs, but I have played a lot of other pve fps games

[ocean spindle]

i usually go for veruta when im just playin more easy levels, cause i am trash with the recoil skdmk

and i go arbalist when i go serious
but if u arent skill issue u can revert it

:]

[sturdy glen]

btw, if you do miss the limb break you have 2 options

[craggy pier]

veruta always unless there is a tank that needs killing

[sturdy glen]

generally I would just recommend bailing and dealing with the consequences, but if you are confident you damaged the limb you were aiming for you can attempt to light tap it and finish it off

in your clip I am unsure what body part you hit, I wouldve crouched when trying to get the leg

[craggy pier]

looks like a buttocks hit tho the marker was behind the knee

[civic wave]

there's no way it hit the back instead of the leg with that angle

[sturdy glen]

they didnt hitscan

like

just BARELY

[tardy ingot]

Choke is also perfectly viable

Its overshadowed, not bad lol
Remove other guns and its a strong A tier again

[minor fractal]

It's still out of necessity, though.

[tardy ingot]

theres a difference between weak and weaker

[dry pumice]

There is none to me

Why even have it in the game at that point

Illusion of choice

[minor fractal]

Eco-focused boss killer that's less committed than other damage options.

[sturdy glen]

we have bigger problems than choke if were gonna get to that discussion artek

aka half the main category

but both have been overstated at this point

[tardy ingot]

Artek what even is that take wtf

[dry pumice]

It's very simple

[past mesa]

Artek the becomes the power creep

[minor fractal]

I mean, it's not really an illusion of choice, though.

[past mesa]

Personification in the final form

[minor fractal]

The strongest weapons are not always accessible to every player or skill level.

[sturdy glen]

hel gun is a great example

[dry pumice]

If gun A is just superior to gun B - why even have gun B waste my hard drive space?

[ocean spindle]

cause it has

less recoil

[tardy ingot]

choke has the issue that if you want smth more specialized it exists (see BC/Sniper/Scattergun/hel rifle) but if you want a more generalistic gun thats also already there (high cal/shotgun)

[ocean spindle]

ah shotguns

[tardy ingot]

which gun is just „superior choke mod“

[ocean spindle]

i thought the convo was still machineguns lmao

[dry pumice]

High cal. Basically same thing.

[tardy ingot]

thats the thing. High cal isnt just superior choke

[civic wave]

higher mag, easier to pick off smalls at range

but worse for boss/giant killing iirc

[tardy ingot]

id argue its flipped from R7

[minor fractal]

Choke is better at some things, but it's also much worse at things that high cal is very good for.

[tardy ingot]

but the issue is that the niches choke is better in are filled for it

[tardy ingot]

the issue is that the things choke is good at are done by very good guns rn that are better at it (in trade off for being less of an all rounder)

[dry pumice]

Like sure there are differences, but decent chunk of people seems to have basically surrendered to position that the only true advantage choke has is the mag dump - an utterly situational utility that comes into play like once in 3-4 expeditions

[civic wave]

if you told me we were playing r4e1 and I'm going to be code searching, i'd either take BC or Choke mod, depending on whether or not I'm in the mood to deal with burst cannon recoil

[tardy ingot]

decent chunks of people… WHO?

[sturdy glen]

_ _

[civic wave]

it's a damn fine gun still

[sturdy glen]

it doesnt even have that

though yeah no one does it lmao

[tardy ingot]

range advantage vs chargers/bigs
Better boss dmg, better hybrid/chickens dmg

[minor fractal]

But the problem is that it loses by virtue of even having competition, because it's not very good.

[dry pumice]

Chill Dude and Jish I think. Alright not a decent chunk but I consider their takes valuable enough.

[tardy ingot]

NO RAY

You are misswording

choke is good

others are better and fill its niche better

you could argue weak in context

[sturdy glen]

I feel like the main problem is just that the one thing choke is sacrificing to be an all rounder is something most ppl do not like sacrificing

which is mag size

[tardy ingot]

but thats not what people say here

[minor fractal]

Like, HEL Revo + choke is largely a strong loadout because HEL Revo carries any and all loadouts.

[sturdy glen]

we have a specialized weapon for each thing choke is good at

and while we would like the general option

we do not take the sacrifice necessary to get that

[craggy pier]

can happen

[minor fractal]

You make major sacrifices for the versatility that choke offers, but it is not actually a versatile weapon.

[dry pumice]

Again - I just don't think there's the difference.
Weak in context compared to other options = weak period, just take the better gun and perform better.

[tardy ingot]

take better gun and perform better yes

but saying choke is weak

[dry pumice]

Literally the only thing that offend me about choke is 2.7 reload. I was genuinely surprised it's that long.

[tardy ingot]

is saying that jokic sucks at basketball because he isnt MJ

[dry pumice]

Make it same as Bullpup at 2.1 and honestly I'll find it fair.

[tardy ingot]

or better in gtfo terms

obviously dmr sucks ass right

cuz hel revo exists?

NO LOL

[ocean spindle]

no loo :3

[dry pumice]

What's the raw damage of HEL again

[tardy ingot]

??????

artek and gun balance

[minor fractal]

8.01

[tardy ingot]

10/10

[sturdy glen]

hel what and why does it matter

[civic wave]

no loo when you're outside of a shopping centre in public

[minor fractal]

That would genuinely be a good buff.

[civic wave]

where are the closest toilets

[tardy ingot]

No loo

[minor fractal]

Choke is not good.

[sturdy glen]

I feel like weve just kinda failed to distinguish between role creep and power creep in a gun balance discussion

[civic wave]

faster reload would make the gun nicer

[tardy ingot]

oh wait

[sturdy glen]

and artek is really caught up on that

[tardy ingot]

i thought dmg

i was confused

didnt see arteks other message

LOL

[tardy ingot]

100% (tho not everyone, some understand)

[dry pumice]

Also really? It's that high?

And here I am thinking DMR has the highest main per bullet damage

Jesus, no wonder the fucking thing is S

[minor fractal]

HEL Revo is a powerful Main w/ HEL slapped onto it.

[tardy ingot]

honesrly carbine exists so eh

[dry pumice]

Oh gee I wonder if the bazzilion seconds reload was supposed to be the downside

laugh maniacally

[tardy ingot]

wdym :^ )

[sturdy glen]

take gun with pretty much every breakpoint you could ever want and give it pierce

[tardy ingot]

btw its why i think the reload cancel nerf was perfect

[sturdy glen]

and wonder how we get to the meta we have today

[tardy ingot]

Feels similar but touches upon uptime

[sturdy glen]

I tried it for the first time yesterday

my conclusion was it was

just the PERFECT fucking amount to kill muscle memory

its so miniscule

[tardy ingot]

yup but ya get used it

[sturdy glen]

yet its just barely enough

[past mesa]

It is just a shake it up nerf

[sturdy glen]

which is really funny

[tardy ingot]

0.2 seconds or so is a time where you might get an extra lick window

[civic wave]

enough to mess up muscle memory? eh I was leaving my reload cancels quite late anyway

nothing changes... I'm still an idiot

[waxen jetty]

do u want a medal

[tardy ingot]

i feel like im intentionally slowing down reload cancels on it

like im staring at smth

waiting for time to pass

[civic wave]

that would make me feel better, yes, I've been tired from walking so much

[modest monolith]

it will take time, just try not to focus too much on the result for now

keep practicing

[upper ginkgo]

reall

[sturdy glen]

pachi unintentionally demolished

you love to see it

[waxen jetty]

he needs practice

[past mesa]

fuck RICK is swing hard today

[civic wave]

i hate you all

[past mesa]

We be trying to free you from an addiction

[sturdy glen]

another W for gtfo loopers

[past mesa]

One day you will thank us

[waxen jetty]

pachi play cs2 with gerz

[civic wave]

i don't play tac shooters

[waxen jetty]

noob

[hardy grotto]

rick play apex with me

[arctic marten]

beth hop on payday 3

[hardy grotto]

ur playing vermintid

e

[waxen jetty]

play with robert and purple

or gaz/peter

[hardy grotto]

choose your side

play with robert (washed up)

or play with peter (rlly mad)

[waxen jetty]

LOL

play with gaz (glutton)

[hardy grotto]

LOL

[soft crater]

[thorn dawn]

Guys this is really gay. I have opened like 30 lockers and boxes in R1B2, R1C1, R1C2, R1D1 and there were absolutely no ammopacks or medipacks at all. I'm not exaggerating. Instead the game would throw me 100 glow sticks and lock melters. I think this complaint is valid. I have to fight hordes after hordes without the game providing you what you need to beat the levels. Isn't this absurd?

[ocean spindle]

um, depends on the level, on r1c1 the game literally throws u SEVERAL ammo tool and medipacks

so if ur not seein any is defo super weird

[thorn dawn]

wait yeah except r1c1 my bad

[minor fractal]

I can't tell if this is /s w/ 9/22 join date.

[thorn dawn]

huh

[ocean spindle]

what

[minor fractal]

Resources are set per zone.

[past mesa]

he is a real person

ik

crazy

[craggy pier]

9/22 LOL

[thorn dawn]

your bio is interesting

[craggy pier]

thanks

i worked really hard on it

[thorn dawn]

oh you know arabic??

[craggy pier]

yes

i am arab

[thorn dawn]

ohhhhh i see

[soft crater]

[raw mist]

How do I know how much damage a non-fully charged melee does? I know a fully charged hammer hit does 20 and no charge deals 3 damage, but I wanna know what the bare minimum charge requirement for a hammer head/occipital hit so I can chain kills more quickly when I mess up stealth. I tried looking up the wiki but I couldn’t find damage formulas for charge percentage to damage

[craggy pier]

you wont be able to keep up with the numbers but you'll get a feel for it the more you use it

[minor fractal]

~60% head for both, ~30% on strikers for occi, 0% for shooters for occi.

[soft crater]

Me: Full charge to a striker's foot from the front

[vague bridge]

whats the swing time of the hammer

[silver fable]

I think it's 3 + 17t^3, where t=0 is no charge and t=1 is full charge

for hammer anyway

I would guess that all melee charges use cubic scaling, so find min and max damage for each and plug them in accordingly I guess

[minor fractal]

t = cube root((D - 3) / 17)

[past mesa]

R6d1 stealth is very simplified

The scout scan has a nasty spawn place as well

[neon gust]

x³+y³+z³=k

Pretty simple

[past mesa]

@sturdy glen what shape is that

It looks really close to a sphere

[neon gust]

21 is the answer

Sorry i forgot this is gtfo

20.99

[sturdy glen]

I have no idea

[past mesa]

Fuck I am about to start graphing

Okay

[sturdy glen]

is it a sphere thats like

more concave or convex?

[past mesa]

Would be my guess some werid transformation on a sphere

[olive robin]

use list command on terminal and it tells u whats in each area

i really do not think its possible to have no ammo or med. unless you have universe level bad rng and even then idk

[past mesa]

geogebra

doesnt like it

XD

[sturdy glen]

same site I tried

lmao

I think its just a bloated sphere

[past mesa]

i might

start lableing critial points idk

[thorn dawn]

that's exactly what i did. and it shows me multiple boxes but no resources lol

has been multiple times

[rain valley]

list res e_120 is a command for showing all the resources in zone 120

just change the number and it works for any zone

[past mesa]

I feel like you are doing something wrong

[thorn dawn]

i typed LIST ZONE_~~

[past mesa]

yeah that is why i am surpised you did it wrong

what zone and what map

you have to be over generalizing or you have some where data block edit

[thorn dawn]

no what i'm saying is ex: "LIST ZONE_19"

[past mesa]

yeah and nothing showed up

[olive robin]

list every zone?

[past mesa]

either you did something insane? or you have an edited game

[olive robin]

idk man its just hard to believe that you got 0 resources

cause thats p much impossible

[thorn dawn]

hang on imma show the image

[past mesa]

pls

[thorn dawn]

when i get to the terminal

R1D1 @past mesa

[past mesa]

that is the first zone?

[jagged shore]

if that's the first level, that's why

[past mesa]

that is normal

[jagged shore]

*first zone

[sturdy glen]

list zone 69

you will understand

[thorn dawn]

alright i see

[olive robin]

first zone rarely has anything

i think i once found a single medkit

[past mesa]

r1d1 first zone is empty and 3rd zone is empty

adn 5th

[olive robin]

but 2nd and 4th arent?

[past mesa]

yeah

[olive robin]

that isnt unusual

not every area is gonna be of value

i agree lock melters and glowsticks constantly get kinda stale

but it is what it is

ideally there would be a few more common items in the lock melter glowstick pool

to spice up the drops a little

[raw jackal]

can I do R1B1 without alarm doors?

[lone mortar]

nvm u cant lol

[raw jackal]

???

[lone mortar]

still need to do class II to get keycard to giant zone

[raw jackal]

Scaler said East or West has alarms and I only need to hit 4 zones to get 12 pid's

[lone mortar]

you can go in middle zone

but its the same like giant zone but with scouts

[upper ginkgo]

bare minimum is class 2 and class 4 but that's only if ids have good rng

[cold quarry]

you do need to do one class 2

that's it

[upper ginkgo]

oh yeah that's right giant zone doesn't have alarm

[lone mortar]

yeah

just only a class 2 and grab 3 pids 1 keycard

but your better off just do the class II => III

easy defend and pathing

[cold quarry]

it's funny you need a keycard to get to giant zone but it's the hardest part of thel evel

[lone mortar]

its just 2 class III lol

@upper ginkgo remember Voxy azu said no "SPEEDRUNNERS"

lol

[upper ginkgo]

i don't speedrun >.>

[lone mortar]

real

imagine not speedrunning when there are error alarms

[keen hatch]

yeah lol

Error instantly turns me into a minmaxing speedrunner

[lone mortar]

just because of that

im gonna call R3D1 speedrun

[cold quarry]

i got up and took my pizza out of the oven during some r4 error

the bots protected me

[lone mortar]

def A2-3

[cold quarry]

yeah

[lone mortar]

@tardy ingot

i saw u typing

[tardy ingot]

wat

[lone mortar]

yes

R6C1 speedrun today?

[tardy ingot]

dunno

breads not there

[lone mortar]

with me

pls

i will take a nap before hand to not do bad lol

[tardy ingot]

mate we start at your early morning

that wont happen

you need sleep

[lone mortar]

nah

its weekened

idc

lets speedrun

[tardy ingot]

->

[lone mortar]

pls

[rain valley]

so on my last run i paired the DMR with the arbalist and it was a pretty good combo

[lone mortar]

[rain valley]

oh, wc, i meant to post this in #gtfo-chat

[lone mortar]

wha

you can talk about anything here lol

[rain valley]

i thought it was supposed to be gtfo related questions? what i said was just a statement

[lone mortar]

aight

u wana GTFO lol

[rain valley]

naw, just finished my session and gotta go to bed

thx tho

[lone mortar]

[neon gust]

This channel have been used for many inhuman things

[lone mortar]

Much like us wink wink

Its the end of September Bd

Where my ALT R6 video

[real agate]

Question : when enemies are in their sleep mode, melee killing others sometime wakes them, sometimes not.
I have triggered enemies across the room by smashing a sleeping one, and some have stayed asleep when i bashed an enemy close to them.
I'm trying to identify a pattern, but i can't find one here

[tardy ingot]

@real agate enemies have "glow" states

when an enemy is glowing/throbbing there is a chance that it will wake up from you hitting an enemy, even if pretty far away, as long as it has line of sight

[real agate]

well that fucking sucks

[civic wave]

Enemy glowing/pulsating means it can wake up from a kill ages away

[tardy ingot]

enemies will always wake up when they are close to each other (~2 meters) tho, which is called proximity aggro

[real agate]

that i am aware

[civic wave]

Easy manipulatable so it isn't too bad

[tardy ingot]

you can synchronize their sleeping patterns to kill them when the others are asleep

[real agate]

another question, does enemies "hear" through floors ?

like in a two story room

[tardy ingot]

"kind of"

[icy cave]

If there is a grate with holes yes

[tardy ingot]

it might disturb their line of sight

it might not

if you wanna be safe sync

[real agate]

💀

thanks

[zealous light]

Hmm this LOS bit is a cool thing to know

[tardy ingot]

btw los is completely object bound for long range aggro, players and enemies dont block it

[zealous light]

I always figured there's just a random factor thrown in for the sake of tension

[tardy ingot]

oh there is

[zealous light]

Ah yes this i got from you saying that there's a chance, just didn't know it has more parameters to it than just range and random chance

This does explain a few critical wtf moments when stealth went wrong

[dry pumice]

Devs be like: "Your stealth goes awfully smoothly and according to plan... But what if it didn't?"
a hybrid wakes up on the other side of the room

[waxen jetty]

play better win more

[hardy grotto]

Rick

[raw jackal]

can a fully charged hammer hit from behind in the occiput kill a giant?

maybe only with the iix syringe but not sure

[icy cave]

Only with this

[ocean spindle]

yeah only with the IIX
u need more like, i think it was 3 hits to the back?

i mean- one occi two to the back?

was it like that

[icy cave]

this

[dry pumice]

I swear we had this conversation before

Or was that a different Luna

[raw jackal]

no, before was with the knife

[dry pumice]

Fair

Anyway:
Giant = 120 HP
Hammer perfect occi = 60 DMG.
Spear perfect occi = ~78 DMG
The yellow syringe of course pushes it to the oneshot territory, easily

[icy cave]

INJECT

sorry

[ocean spindle]

knoife funnily also oneshot with the iix if it's asleep

funny funny multipliers

[waxen jetty]

Gerz

[hardy grotto]

Are you top 500 in cs2 yet

[fierce walrus]

i remember checking that myself

its funny

but also kinda funky to pull off

[waxen jetty]

no im not

i havent touched premiere

game is a lil buggy for that kind of play tbh

[hardy grotto]

disappointing

We should duo overwatch rick

[waxen jetty]

i love winston

winstonOW

[hardy grotto]

RickgOW

[raw jackal]

how can I get most of "Advanced Graphics"?

[soft crater]

Getting LowSpecGaming and turning everything to the lowest possible

[lone mortar]

i need that emoji

give

[soft crater]