gtfo-related-questions

[dry pumice]

It just buffed

[fierce walrus]

i know

but i mean the recoil nerf

[thorn dawn]

but sr is bad for close combat

[olive robin]

19 to 22 dmg

It's def nice

[dry pumice]

Yeah that is still there

[olive robin]

If u have a team and a good ammo economy main then that doesn't really come into play

[native sun]

Treat it like sniper (it is your job to shoot whenever a giant pops up), but with the extra get-out-of-jail-free fire-a-burst-into-a-horde pressure release valve.

[olive robin]

I just struggle to find out when I should use burst cannon cause a sniper person can just dome giants in a single shot

I'm usually the sniper person too

[native sun]

If you have BC + Sniper you're going to both kinda suffer unless it is a level with a LOT of giants/bosses

[olive robin]

Hmm

[mossy aurora]

burst cannon also way better against big chargers

[olive robin]

So when would I take sniper or burst

[olive robin]

That's a good point tbh

[dry pumice]

Burst is the superior option against giants chargers because no head

Scattergun still there though, so uh...

[olive robin]

I usually use sniper to clear out tightly packed giants in a room before we enter

[mossy aurora]

i prefer burst cannon for mom/pmom and sniper for tanks when it comes to bosses

[olive robin]

Like if there's three next to eachother I snipe them through a doorway

I just don't know if it's worth losing that for burst cannon

Cause sniper can also one shot giants in waves

[native sun]

Yeah, you can do similar with BC, except just get in close and tussle with em, you can kill 2 with backdamage before the third is really doing much

[olive robin]

I guess it's just a diff play style option

[native sun]

Sniper is better into pure regular giants, if you want something for regular giants just take sniper

[olive robin]

It's kinda crazy though how different burst cannon is for bots and players

Bots use it like a dmr that can shoot up to 5 bullets at once

[native sun]

BC is better for charger giants (arguably shadow giants) and moms

[olive robin]

I was definitely struggling to hit heads on shadow giants

Kinda just gave up and stuck to body shots

But thanks for the info and such

I'll try and get better with burst cannon aiming

[tardy ingot]

burst cannon doesnt need headshots

[olive robin]

Yea

It doesn't have as much range though

[native sun]

Generally a good idea, some fairly reliable strats for headshotting them:

• if it's dark you can use your flashlight ofc, but be wary that flashlight origina and player cam are in different places
• If you have some space and time to play with, easiest is to bait the tongue, duck behind a box, and shoot just before the tongue gets sucked back in, the tongue always whips back to the head

[olive robin]

I can use sniper to just evaporate enemies from outside of a room without alerting anyone

Which is really nice when there's 5 scouts in a room

[hidden ridge]

Truly a scenario you encounter often

[olive robin]

It is because my team is frequently dealing with giants that wake up

And they all use spears

So it's kind of fatal cause they can't stagger lock the giants

And I just have to shoot them in the heads before they do 80% of someone's health

[modest crystal]

Anyone know what the difference between hel auto and normal auto is?(sentries)

[fierce walrus]

im guessing you mean burst

cause there is no normal auto

[icy cave]

there is no normal auto anymore

[modest crystal]

…

I must be tripping

[fierce walrus]

Overall hel auto does shit damage

and staggers

so not too great

[modest crystal]

Figured

All I remember is that u gotta refill every 10 seconds

[fierce walrus]

yeah

They made it target the body of sleepers now

i wonder how much more accurate it is now

[versed pawn]

How do I kill a Giant, as a duo, without making too much noise?

[dry pumice]

Bonk back of head

[icy cave]

Hit it, m8 hits, you hit, m8 hits. break Limbs on every hit, giant remains staggered, silent

Also hammer

[versed pawn]

So not target the head?

[icy cave]

First hit on back of the head is Ideal

when I say Limbs, I mean everything that breaks. so head, back, limbs

and hitting already broken limb well..... not ideal

[versed pawn]

Thanks

[latent obsidian]

Avoid hitting the back because when thats broken other limbs won't break (something like that)

better to get head arms and legs

[clever flame]

https://youtu.be/lWEBniMmDDA?si=UF0Waznxu4fBU3vH

with the recent buff it is now easier to do

[clever flame]

After the first attack, I recommend you only use 90% of charge.

[latent obsidian]

If the legs are black full hit the chest? 😅 what

[icy cave]

? just hit the leg

[latent obsidian]

did you watch the video?

[icy cave]

this some kind of racism?

[latent obsidian]

idk, it might be

[icy cave]

nah don't got time.e

[latent obsidian]

The video suggests the leg colouring is a determiner of where to hit the giant next

[dry pumice]

Lul

[icy cave]

man youtubers really should stop covering the game with their nonsense

[dry pumice]

Tfw when no research and no sources

[latent obsidian]

man this has 34k views

[mossy aurora]

i actually heard someone tell me in a lfg game this

to not hit the legs if they are black

[clever flame]

is an old rumor, not true

ignore that

[latent obsidian]

Now we know where it came from

Now I want to know what is supposed to happen if you do hit the legs xD

[dry pumice]

Man, what lfgs are you people playing

I occasionaly get people not up to date on sentry back damage situation and who don't read patch notes - but that's about it.

[clever flame]

if you hit the waist, you don't break anything

if you attack the knee, you do break

[latent obsidian]

Someone who seemed otherwise quite well put together told me that mines one shot giants

[clever flame]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/811832397930430474/1155883074513551390/image.png?width=417&height=602

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/811832397930430474/1155883081899716718/image.png?width=366&height=674

[latent obsidian]

thanks

[clever flame]

But if I'm not mistaken, they can benefit from back damage.

Occiput = x3 dmg

[karmic kestrel]

So is the auto sentry actually viable now

[clever flame]

But it is something that will rarely happen

[icy cave]

Nope

[karmic kestrel]

Ok then lol

[north palm]

Makes it more useful and reliable for surge alarms, but its damage output/tool refill is still atrocious.

[torn basin]

In the patch notes where it states, “ slightly increased staring damage falloff” for the sawed off shotgun is that a buff or nerf?

Like does that mean falloff range is increased or damage reduce multiplier is increased?

[ocean spindle]

buff, means it has a lil bit more range before the dmg starts to decrease

[torn basin]

Tyty

[ocean spindle]

yeh

[clever flame]

#wiki-chat message

[lilac fulcrum]

Is there a way you see that we could phrase that better?

[past mesa]

Fall off min and max

[torn basin]

Im not sure because it’s such a specific change but maybe: “slightly increased the range to where falloff damage starts” or something that makes it clear the range is being changed and not the falloff damage multiplier itself.

[past mesa]

The multiplier

[mossy aurora]

"damage falloff start changed from 6m to 8m"

[past mesa]

Doesn’t change it is a liner relationship between min and max

[ocean spindle]

they never post numbers so

[past mesa]

100% at min and 10% at max

[torn basin]

Oh I didn’t know that lol. My bad I guess

[past mesa]

No worries it is werid math

[torn basin]

I thought each weapon had its own falloff stats 🤷‍♀️

But idk why I assumed that

[past mesa]

They do but it is a relationship between their ending and their beginning

so if they change by the same amount then we are just off setting a graph

[silver fable]

each has its own beginning and end

[past mesa]

If you change them by different amounts you can the fall off rate

[silver fable]

interpolate linearly from full damage at start, to 0 damage at end, but set to 10% if calculation results in less than 10%

[mossy aurora]

Actually the wording "increased starting damage falloff" makes it sound like damage drops off harder, not that the range was increased

[torn basin]

Now that i know that it’s just linear for all guns depending on start/ end falloff I feel like it was worded totally fine 👍

[torn basin]

Yeah that’s what i had thought initially

[mossy aurora]

"slightly increased range of starting damage falloff"

[silver fable]

slightly increased the range before which damage falloff starts to take effect

[past mesa]

That is what is said tho

[lilac fulcrum]

Ahh I see. The patch notes from the initial release added the word range. I forgot to include that this time, my bad

[mossy aurora]

Go look at sawed off notes

No wording of range at all

[past mesa]

Whoops

Just means min was increased

So range buff

[craggy pier]

why not just like add the numbers like "burst cannon damage changed from 19>22"

makes everyones life much easier

[lilac fulcrum]

Well now I have an idea for a new internal tool to help me write patch notes for consistency

[clever flame]

#wiki-chat message

[craggy pier]

tru my goat

[past mesa]

We already just get a bot to dump the data block changes

[ocean spindle]

those arent given from 10c they are datamined kmdskm

[past mesa]

Thanks tru

[lilac fulcrum]

Would be cool, I know Calle wants that

[clever flame]

you wait a little bit and someone will get them for you

[past mesa]

It would make patch notes never miss things

Which is nice

[ocean spindle]

i dont think u got my point very well but i write weird i dont blame u

[clever flame]

I also dislike that they don't put the details in the patch notes

[lilac fulcrum]

I'll talk to Calle and get the discussion going internally to see if we can do that

[past mesa]

That being said king the hel auto pistol got a 5 increase in min and a 10 increase in max. So it’s liner relation is better than it was before

[tardy ingot]

[lunar rain]

Hey why does the heavy ar sometimes reload to 29 instead of 30?

[past mesa]

Funny decimal

[lunar rain]

I don’t like the funny decimal

[mossy aurora]

There's an actual QoL mod that can fix it

[past mesa]

Start laughing or they add it back to high cal

[mossy aurora]

Dmr reload fix

[raw jackal]

legit question, try R2D2 and R2E1 or go do R3?

[craggy pier]

all of r3 is easier than both of those levels

[sturdy glen]

D2 will make you a lot better at the game

I'd only skip e1

But do whatever is funner to you

[raw jackal]

isn't R3A2 just R2D1 lite?

[sturdy glen]

Yea

[raw jackal]

I think it's a fog cluster genies mission

[tardy ingot]

"lite lite"

[raw jackal]

still poison gas?

[sturdy glen]

It's the r3 gen, fog, and blood door intro

[raw jackal]

poison gas or not?

[sturdy glen]

Yes

[raw jackal]

R2D1 made me hate poison gas

[craggy pier]

You’re gonna love r2e1

[dry pumice]

R2D2 just needs one guy who knows what to do. 3-4 lfg tries should suffice.

R2E1 is cursed however and I don't want to play it ever again.
I believe it holds the title of hardest level in all of gtfo.

[turbid horizon]

no

That’s R4E1

[raw jackal]

Oh no

[dry pumice]

What the fuck was even R4E1...

Ohhh right

Now I remember

Eh...

[turbid horizon]

R4E1 is || tank error on main, reactor on exreme ||

[dry pumice]

No surges - life good

[turbid horizon]

He doesn’t remember

[dry pumice]

I don't remember 😭

[sturdy glen]

It has surges

[civic wave]

||The S1 surge to 458 sends its regards||

[sturdy glen]

It has 1 on the same tile as r2e1 even

[turbid horizon]

yeah lmao

[dry pumice]

Which one was that

[sturdy glen]

3rd alarm

[civic wave]

The funny digsite one

[sturdy glen]

Right before cell plug

[turbid horizon]

The || 100 second surge on the way to generators ||

[dry pumice]

Ooohhhh

[civic wave]

With the ladder on one side, high path on the other

[dry pumice]

Is that one caught on my video.

[civic wave]

Lower area with some scaffolding or whatever

[dry pumice]

Where I die by 0 ammo

That was surge?... Explains.

[turbid horizon]

It’s the one I most know for people getting jumpscared by dad jumping down the ladder

[sturdy glen]

It says surge

[turbid horizon]

yeah it might only have 1 surge but it’s a nasty surge

[sturdy glen]

It's a surge

[turbid horizon]

Plus the rest of the level is hard as fuck

[sturdy glen]

Idk what else to explain

[raw jackal]

so R3A2?

[turbid horizon]

That extraction alarm is 😬

[civic wave]

R3A2 is fine

[turbid horizon]

Good level

[sturdy glen]

By extract alarm do you mean

Error or class 6

[keen hatch]

a fucking ||tank error||

[sturdy glen]

Cuz neither are hard parts of the level imo

[turbid horizon]

I mean error

[sturdy glen]

Errors just an ammo check

[turbid horizon]

Mostly because it involves my most feared enemy in the game

[keen hatch]

error is just a kiting check

[keen hatch]

Pablo?

[turbid horizon]

what no

[keen hatch]

you don't fear pablo?

[turbid horizon]

We’re talking about R4E1

no

Pablo frend

I mean BBC

[keen hatch]

BBC

ah

[turbid horizon]

those are scary

[keen hatch]

BBC Is terrifying

[turbid horizon]

literally scarier than any other enemy

[past mesa]

0.0

[civic wave]

Honestly I stopped being scared of those

[keen hatch]

snatchers are bithy

they're just

fast

[sturdy glen]

Dw jish

[keen hatch]

so fast.

[civic wave]

Shadow giants who I can't see scare me more

[turbid horizon]

I only fear snatchers for the bugs

[sturdy glen]

I believe they can kite the BBC error

[turbid horizon]

The Charger Shadow Giants are scariest

Those can fuck off

[past mesa]

You can but errors are kiting checks

[keen hatch]

we have spears and passion

[past mesa]

Oh nvm

[turbid horizon]

Crouching shadow, Hidden charger

[sturdy glen]

Keeps getting better

[turbid horizon]

My favorite bug

[past mesa]

Really does

[keen hatch]

i'm the only person in my squad who runs a good meelee

everyone else runs spear

[past mesa]

XD

[keen hatch]

i stopped trying to convince them to use something normal

[past mesa]

okay what do you run

[turbid horizon]

mmm

[keen hatch]

Bat or sledge

[turbid horizon]

based

[dry pumice]

Boooo

[past mesa]

is the order important here

[keen hatch]

the order is important i prefer bat unless it will underpreform for that level

[turbid horizon]

i changed spear in my modded rundown to have a slightly longer charge time, but also do 25 base damage

[past mesa]

Okay sounds about right

[turbid horizon]

because i wanted a mammoth hunter XD

Spear just doesn’t have a good niche

It just becomes worse hammer

[keen hatch]

I try to tell them that

[dry pumice]

It's a safer giant dueler

[turbid horizon]

Bat is stagger king, knife is small deletion, hammer is a jack of all, and spear has nothing

[turbid horizon]

Yeah idk why you need that if you have 1 bat player

[keen hatch]

Lol yep

[sturdy glen]

Or sledge

[keen hatch]

I take bat and spam click

[sturdy glen]

Cuz it does that too

[turbid horizon]

Then you have none of the downsides of spear

And can one tap locks and get short charge times

It’s why I gave spear the niche of raw fucking damage XD

[keen hatch]

Bat/sledge is a godly conbo for giants

[past mesa]

Why not just sledge

where does the bat come in

[turbid horizon]

Bat is nice for certainity

[past mesa]

But it is certain

[keen hatch]

Bat staggers the fuck out of them

[turbid horizon]

If you have a cluster of giants

[sturdy glen]

Sledge is certain already

[turbid horizon]

It might not be

[keen hatch]

Bat sledge can multi kill very consistently

[past mesa]

if you have 5 giants beside each other and you need to clear the room

Just shoot

[sturdy glen]

4 giants is certain with sledge

[turbid horizon]

May I present to you

[keen hatch]

Waste of ammo

[past mesa]

Otherwise everyone gets one

[turbid horizon]

R7C3

[past mesa]

You have c foam 0.0 and

[turbid horizon]

when

Oh right

[sturdy glen]

I don't think bat helps with 5+

[past mesa]

Yeah idk how the bat will help with that

Light stagger isn’t very good giant kill

[turbid horizon]

I never said 5 lol, all I’m saying is bat’s nice to help with multiple

[past mesa]

Yeah but you could jus learn the hammer solo

[turbid horizon]

Can juggle back and forth (albeit dangerously)

[ocean spindle]

but bat :3

[turbid horizon]

You can, and I have

[keen hatch]

Bat ensures that fuck ups don’t teamwipe

[turbid horizon]

All I’m saying is I’ll take bat to be certain

[sturdy glen]

So does sledge

[past mesa]

Bats ensure that if someone fucked up

[turbid horizon]

It doesn’t hurt

[past mesa]

They take 80

XD

[sturdy glen]

Light stagger goes hard

[ocean spindle]

tbh bat is nice just cause its so fast it can stagger any tongue attack

easy

no limbs needed

[sturdy glen]

So can sledge

[turbid horizon]

Plus bat players just tend to be cracked

[past mesa]

I love sitting on giants and baiting out melee hit for light tap

[turbid horizon]

The ones I play with at least

[keen hatch]

We have to compensate for low damage

[sturdy glen]

Idk what to tell you guys

[ocean spindle]

but bats faster

[fierce walrus]

bat forever

[keen hatch]

We’re basically playing like knife players half the time

[sturdy glen]

The answer will always be so can sledge

[turbid horizon]

This was a discussion about spear being bad lol

[ocean spindle]

ah

[past mesa]

yeah

[turbid horizon]

We know sledge can

[past mesa]

And it is

[ocean spindle]

idk i read bat i go in

[turbid horizon]

But bat can do it more reliably

All we’re saying

[civic wave]

Where is the leader of your cult

[turbid horizon]

XD

[past mesa]

but can it? ?

[keen hatch]

Nothing gets this community going like the bonk stick

[ocean spindle]

yes

[turbid horizon]

yeah

[fierce walrus]

sledge is broken op and people dont need to say it all the time

[past mesa]

XD

[sturdy glen]

I just don't agree lol

[civic wave]

Where is the charismatic voice who will argue for bat

[turbid horizon]

Now the 25 damage spear change…

[sturdy glen]

Let me link smth

[ocean spindle]

:3

[turbid horizon]

That is something I want

[fierce walrus]

hammer has worse stamina than bat

[turbid horizon]

I just think spear needs a niche

[ocean spindle]

i dont have bat clips cause i dont record but i can already imagine what ur sendin so

[keen hatch]

You can pry my bat off my cold dead corpse

[fierce walrus]

exactly

[turbid horizon]

yeah lol

[fierce walrus]

bat till the universe collapses

[turbid horizon]

Bat users in a nutshell

[fierce walrus]

and one day more

[sturdy glen]

Nvm mobile search is broke

[turbid horizon]

sure I use sledge, but I’ll vouch for any weapon other than spear

[ocean spindle]

bat users jugglin 3 hybrids at the same time

[sturdy glen]

Sec

[fierce walrus]

funny enough i discovered todat knifeing hybrids is pretty easy as long as you have like 50 health to spare

[turbid horizon]

bruh

[fierce walrus]

so bat must be even easier

[civic wave]

There is no charismatic cult leader I see, simply a rag tag group of hooligans

[turbid horizon]

mmm

yeah

[fierce walrus]

wdym heretic

[sturdy glen]

#gtfo-media message

[turbid horizon]

i’m not actually a bat user, I’m just going to bat for them

[fierce walrus]

bat has better stam economy than hammer

and thats a fact

[sturdy glen]

I can get behind that

[past mesa]

Very skillful

[turbid horizon]

Yes

[sturdy glen]

If it's true

[turbid horizon]

We understand you can solo giants with hammer

[civic wave]

And what will you do with this better economy

[sturdy glen]

Idk if it's true

[fierce walrus]

run longer

and why would you run longer?

[past mesa]

It is true

[fierce walrus]

to stay fit

[past mesa]

Not convincing true and it depends what you are doing

But it is true

[sturdy glen]

Cool

There is 1 plus then

[jaunty latch]

hi

[civic wave]

OK but I prefer arm exercises instead of cardio. What now?

[turbid horizon]

also at anytime that big could’ve screamed tbf

[sturdy glen]

That's not the point

[past mesa]

The point is it is easy as fuck

[sturdy glen]

Bat isn't stopping 2 giants from screaming

[fierce walrus]

bat still supplies that

[turbid horizon]

yes. Not what I was saying either

[jaunty latch]

but what if you dont care if they scream

[civic wave]

Fact of the matter is that as long as sledge has bullshit stagger, bat is inadequate

[sturdy glen]

So we're on the same page then

[fierce walrus]

sadly

[past mesa]

Correct

[hardy grotto]

what’s the point of this argument guys

[sturdy glen]

The point is certainty with groups of giants

[hardy grotto]

It’s like the 500th iteration of it

[turbid horizon]

honestly just use what you want to use and don’t fucking knife giants I stg

[past mesa]

We are making fun of bat users

[sturdy glen]

This is certainty with 1 sledge

[past mesa]

Once again

[fierce walrus]

if R8 doesnt nerf hammers sprint or stagger im going to sweden to talk to 10 chambers

[sturdy glen]

So what is the point of bat

[turbid horizon]

Spear 25 dmg when

do it

[sturdy glen]

That is what I am showing

[fierce walrus]

its a faster hammer

[civic wave]

The batters have no voice, no leader, they're like chavs outside the convenience store

[fierce walrus]

=)

[dry pumice]

Add another 30% to headshot damage

[past mesa]

“Faster”

[sturdy glen]

Please don't loop us

[hardy grotto]

a faster hammer with no real upsides?

sounds good to me

[turbid horizon]

I mean do hammer users either?

[fierce walrus]

What a rude hater you are

[past mesa]

You know I am faster in the bedroom than everyone here

[hardy grotto]

just accept bat is ass and call it a day

[past mesa]

Makes me better

[hardy grotto]

jish you’re like a spear user in the bedroom

[turbid horizon]

Faster, insta lock break, low stam consumption

[sturdy glen]

Gotta get back to gtfo faster jish

[hardy grotto]

Good length but you fucking suck

[sturdy glen]

True gamer

[fierce walrus]

bat isnt ass, just overshadowed by hammer

[turbid horizon]

This is PDW vs AR all over again

[jaunty latch]

I unironically dont like hammer

[hardy grotto]

Bat is ass

[jaunty latch]

[past mesa]

I unironically don’t like you

[hardy grotto]

woah

[minor fractal]

Damn

[jaunty latch]

your going to the dauda mines

[sturdy glen]

Now we're getting back to it

[fierce walrus]

i love how this went from actual discusion to just calling bat ass and insulting each other

[sturdy glen]

Stop looping and start hating

[fierce walrus]

the circle of life

[hardy grotto]

The actual discussion sucks

[past mesa]

This is way more fun

[hardy grotto]

We’ve seen it a billion times before

And people don’t budge on their terrible takes

[turbid horizon]

yeah

[hardy grotto]

That’s why you gotta start hating man

this is why I stay toxic

[turbid horizon]

Wait no hold on

[hardy grotto]

LOL

[fierce walrus]

yeah hammer users still believe hammer is best

[civic wave]

We need to start flaming people over asking for lfg stuff

[hardy grotto]

Hammer is objectively the best

[turbid horizon]

We already do

[hardy grotto]

because melee balance does not exist

[turbid horizon]

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[fierce walrus]

Yes i know

and i am sick of hearing it

[civic wave]

That's not flaming them

We need to yell at them

[jaunty latch]

we need to get the mod contact bot to randomly insult people

[uneven gulch]

No

[fierce walrus]

LISTEN UP YOU CRETIN GO TO THE LFG CHANNELS OR GTFO

[hardy grotto]

Ok I’m sick of hearing bat users be like “bat superiority 🤓”

what now liberal

[fierce walrus]

I agree

bat forever

is the best saying

[hardy grotto]

you like being different? You feel special?

[ocean spindle]

yes

its my only source of happiness

[turbid horizon]

gerz legit question

[hardy grotto]

happy for you man nice niche

[jaunty latch]

no I just unironically hate hammers stamina usage

[hardy grotto]

what’s up

[jaunty latch]

[fierce walrus]

whats with the spitters

[turbid horizon]

What do you think of spear charge time 1.7 -> 2 but damage 17.5 -> 25

[hardy grotto]

could be funny

[sturdy glen]

Bat is the weapon I would use if I didn't like sledge so much

[turbid horizon]

That’s what it is in my mod

[jaunty latch]

they amuse me and piss others off

[turbid horizon]

It does like 97 damage to giants in occi

[sturdy glen]

Sledge just let's you do so much

[turbid horizon]

It’s a stealth king

[sturdy glen]

And the hitbox is amazing

[turbid horizon]

And just obliterates giants

[hardy grotto]

I’m not sure what to change with spear rlly

[turbid horizon]

yeah

[hardy grotto]

not up to me either so I don’t need to care

it’s so epic

[turbid horizon]

I’m thinking of adding the sprint change from R6 as well

[sturdy glen]

Give it back multikill

We have sledge double hits

[hardy grotto]

They do need to give bat and spear a use

[turbid horizon]

we do tho

Problem is nobody wants to touch sledge because it’s such a staple

[sturdy glen]

Make the other shit op at this point

[civic wave]

I'm sure there's been like 10 people calling sledge op and saying it should get its stagger nerfed

[turbid horizon]

yeah basically

[jaunty latch]

add the machine stick

[hidden ridge]

I've always wondered how much has to do with sledge being the only melee for 5 rundowns tbh

[sturdy glen]

I don't think we'd complain

[fierce walrus]

i feel like its more than 10

[sturdy glen]

Melee is fun

[hidden ridge]

And you could twist it the other way around since some maps aren't really designed for spear either

[hardy grotto]

i think melee feels miserable nowadays anyway tbh

[civic wave]

There's not even 10 people in this community

[turbid horizon]

Bat can now perma stun 2 giants simultaneously, spear can one shot giants, and knife users are immune to damage while behind enemies

[hardy grotto]

unless you’re just knifing smalls

[turbid horizon]

[hardy grotto]

That’s kinda cute

[civic wave]

I love killing 3 enemies and clipping it

[hidden ridge]

Tell you what, I feel 100% better when I'm host

[civic wave]

Makes me sleep well

[fierce walrus]

i like my communities as i like my cats - quantum

[hidden ridge]

Like a complete different experience trying to melee shit fast as host

[hardy grotto]

host feels so epic

Stam just feels very oppressive sometimes for melee

[hidden ridge]

I know it's obvious but still

[jaunty latch]

it works as client as long as your connection isnt ass

[civic wave]

Enjoy your boss killing, loser

[hardy grotto]

Wish it wasn’t as fucked

[turbid horizon]

Try glaggleland

[hardy grotto]

I have heard things

[fierce walrus]

i love enemies popping half a second after i hit them

[hidden ridge]

does it? as host I can walk into shit quick 180 and occiput basically all the time

as client I either end up not doing enough dmg or not being fast enough

[jaunty latch]

note when I say not ass every single person has to be near eachother

which is never going to happen in a pub lobby

[hidden ridge]

Maybe my connection is a bit wonkier than what I think and I end up losing packets along the way

[jaunty latch]

probably

[thin lantern]

Can you kill scouts with a melee? I need to know if I'm suffering from a skill issue or if it's gonna aggro

[cold quarry]

in the head for sledge and spear, back of the head for bat and knife

[thin lantern]

So it is a skill issue thanks

[hidden ridge]

for hammer, full charge, bonk head, jump before bonking

[dry pumice]

It much unfortunately is. Aim for the scalp.

[thin lantern]

Thanks for the tips

[craggy pier]

half charge back of the head hammer

[soft crater]

I would recommend 60% if you don't get full back

[hidden ridge]

I just full charge all the times tbh

[ocean spindle]

if ur practicin to kill scouts i doubt u dont wanna full charge

[soft crater]

Just get a 10% melee damage booster and full charge scout back

Technically 5%

[mellow yacht]

How do you make a voice channel?

[ocean spindle]

u just join an empty one

[ocean spindle]

if u wanna do the square thing that says 'Join'
go to the vc, right click, 'Copy link' and paste it in ur message

it automatically embeds

[wind wren]

Is there any level thats good for trying out new weapons/ getting better with them?

[ocean spindle]

r1c1 cause lots of enemies, tho can take a bit
r1a1 has an alarm right right in the start

[upper ginkgo]

r3d1 right from the start gives you a giant + smalls error, lots of ammo, and an accessible alarm

[minor fractal]

R6B1

3 alarms in various conditions, not too much stealth, plenty of resources.,

[ocean spindle]

tbh i remember it with medium stealth

[minor fractal]

If you get past 2nd alarm, maybe.

But otherwise it's barely any actual enemies.

[wind wren]

Thanks a lot guys, I'll try all of those. Except for r3d1 cuz that's quite far into the rundown. Thanks once again!

[lone mortar]

idk why

but whenever i see ur name and prf pic

i have so much dark jokes vibes

[wind wren]

Shhhh ; )

[tall coyote]

Are u a tyler1 viewer

[wind wren]

No

[urban nebula]

is there a solo que option for GTFO or is just bots

[cold quarry]

you can turn them off

if you want genuine solo, but the game doesn't scale difficulty

[urban nebula]

i meant can i solo que to be with random teammates

[civic wave]

Yeah, if you put all the player slots to Locked, you'll be alone

[cold quarry]

there's in-game matchmaking but it sucks

[dry pumice]

What, like with matchmaking? Not... Really.

[cold quarry]

you'd be better off using discord

[civic wave]

You could technically use matchmaking, but see #how-to-matchmake and use the discord lfg

[tardy ingot]

well there is

[civic wave]

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[tardy ingot]

But as grongus said

Discord

[wind wren]

Ingame matchmaking is not the greatest either. Discord is prettymuch unconditionally a better option

[craggy pier]

are they adding achievements?

[minor fractal]

Fat maybe

[past mesa]

We have achievements

Test achievements 01

Is my favourite

[past mesa]

Ray how do you feel about mp changes

Kinda funny

[minor fractal]

I haven't actually played much of autos.

I really should.

especially HSMG

W8, I can play bullpup w/ BC

[halcyon mango]

how much dmg increase and shot delay decrease for machine pistol?

[ocean spindle]

Machine Pistol:
Damage: 1.81 -> 1.9
Damage Falloff End: 45 -> 30
Shotdelay: 0.05 -> 0.04

bap

[cold quarry]

so they massively buffed it's RPM

I wonder why

[inner sorrel]

i would say its a more balanced version of where the pdw was pre-nerf

it had very similar dps (just a little lower) but suffered when it came to range, accuracy, recoil

[cold quarry]

well now it suffers more for range

and will blow through it's mag way faster

but it does have better DPS now

[inner sorrel]

i think with the buff its the highest dps primary

[cold quarry]

excluding the shotguns, probably

[inner sorrel]

but like, has enough negetives to ballance it

yeah

[cold quarry]

idk I feel like the RPM increase was not a good thing

the gun absolutely burns through ammo now

[inner sorrel]

they have to be right in your face but it can one-clip a hybrid

its actually incredably ammo efficiant, but yeah it goes through it fast

[minor fractal]

I mean, I don't think that matters too much.

Ammo eco in GTFO is, counter-intuitively, really not that big of a deal.

Specials are by far the biggest factor there.

And specials that are very economical for something tend to also be very powerful for those roles, which that doesn't necessarily translate to Mains.

[hexed parcel]

im in a game right now and there is a orange box that is backwards

and there is a keycard in the box we need

sorry if this is a feature

it's my first game

[ocean spindle]

no its a bug sorry

the patch of today kinda fucked with this a lil bit

it just dropped today

[hexed parcel]

anyway to get it open?

[ocean spindle]

um try to just see if by one side or the other u can do it

[clever flame]

#gtfo-media message

Shoot the lock or use a lock melter

[feral bone]

does anybody know how to fix a glitch that causes you to not be able to hear sleepers clicking

[past mesa]

What level are you on

[feral bone]

power corrupts

rundown 2

[feral bone]

its doing it for all of the levels i believe

[past mesa]

This is the spitter level?

Open your map

Do you crash

[feral bone]

no i havent had a problem with crashing

[past mesa]

And you hit m

./tab

[feral bone]

yup

[past mesa]

Nice

Ok well gl then funny bug

[opaque grove]

is there somewhere to report bugs or is it just on here?

[fierce walrus]

#1049599987878723635

[opaque grove]

yeah i just found it but ty. have the inaccessible boxes in R4C3 already been addressed because we found two in the same run that were turned around and we couldn't open them

[fierce walrus]

yeah the newest patch fucked the boxes

[opaque grove]

one was in zone 145b left north side of room and, zone 152a middle of room on shelf

i hope it gets fixed, there weren't any important supplies in those two luckily for us

i also found a relic half in the floor in R4A3. i could get it but it was barely sticking out. i dont remember which zone it was in

[fierce walrus]

some missions have become unbeatable

collection ones mainly

[opaque grove]

yeah i can imagine

[native sun]

Fairly sure devs are aware of the turned-around boxes bug and are working on a fix, I imagine it'll come quickly

[past mesa]

I can’t wait till they spin the boxes the right way round again

Maybe just maybe

They will turn the entire shelf around

That could be funny

[fierce walrus]

then that one other box

is fucked again

they flipped the shelve to fix it im pretty sure

and that fucked the rest

[past mesa]

Yeah but this is like not the way to go about fixing the bug

They need to go back to r6b2 being broken

And either re seed the zone

Or move on

Cause breaking and adding many soft locks isn’t the way

Or just set up the marker in the zone correctly

But idk 0..0

[wind wren]

Does a fully charged bat hit stagger a giant?

[tardy ingot]

yes

[wind wren]

If it doesnt chop off a limb ofc

Thanks

[steep dune]

quick question, in my normal group im designated scout guy, and have been rocking spear since melee changes. messing around on alt1 for a bit and noticed how fun the knife is. question being, how realistic is it to run knife as the designated scout guy? is there a specific misson i can practice against scouts with the different melee to get used to it? lastly, can you solo charger scouts if theyre cfoamed with knife? i know its possible with spear but i havent tried anything else yet

[dry pumice]

R7B1 got 2 quick scouts if you're willing to brute force the class 3-4 scans or whatever they are.
Being a knife-scout-guy is possible, albeit harder. You need to hit it from behind for flanking damage, or else it will survive the stab. Inconvinient, but workable.

[icy cave]

Tbf there should not be a designated scout guy. the whole team being able to kill scouts reliably is very valuable in later levels. But with enough training you'll knife scouts reliably as well (as far as you go)

[steep dune]

I see thanks for the info, I'll have to check that out before our next session

[steep dune]

That is true, the rest of the team can reliably(ish) kill scouts but usually they send me off to do it

[icy cave]

R6B2 still has the one in the side room right at start no???

[icy cave]

In that case 👍

[steep dune]

guess we will get to knife practice later. My team is much better at handling giants so ill force that on them and take knife for a bit

[dry pumice]

Does it? If so - perfect.
It's surprising that there isn't a level that just starts you in a room with like 3 scouts right off the bat.

[soft crater]

[dry pumice]

You'd think after 60 levels they would make one just for laughs if nothing else.

[wild marten]

Somehow yesterday night i had a R2C1 start with 2 scouts in the starter room... you can guess how that run went (and we never saw them spawn there again)

[steep dune]

i mean if you ever need to practice teamwork you have the 5 charger scout room in r7 d2. we full cleared that room twice before we realized we could ignore them

[icy cave]

R2E1 has

[icy cave]

Hacker, scout spawns are fixed

[dry pumice]

I want a level where you get met with tendrils right as you get deployed.

Or I don't know - the lift thing breaks and causes noise that insta wakes up scouts ahead.

Just a little narrative driven curved ball.

Like that surprise attack in one of R6 levels

[raw jackal]

tips for R3B2?

[fierce walrus]

watchout for fog

dont die

[raw jackal]

doesn't the game give a fog turbine right away?

[fierce walrus]

decide if you prefer to get 2 cells at the cost of no resources

[fierce walrus]

it does

so use it

[raw jackal]

what about the new enemy? I prefer wining prepared to spoilers

is Mother considered a boss type?

[wild marten]

a bit quick to jump the gun, but sure

[fierce walrus]

Miniboss more

but she shouldnt be a problem

either c-foam her

[wild marten]

Ye, miniboss

[fierce walrus]

or have 2 people focus children and 2 gun her down

[icy cave]

Scouts spawns are fixed. so it can't be there. unless it is tied to that zone which I can't recall

[raw jackal]

I could bring a Cfoam gun for her

[icy cave]

miniboss

[icy cave]

won't work

nade will tho

If you find one

[fierce walrus]

just find foam nades

[wild marten]

Honestly, idk. We had weird dsync issues and invisible flashlights all day, so idk. Weird experience either way

[icy cave]

the easiest way tbh: drop fog repellers around her so you can crouch. everyone go around then start blasting. she'll be dead before doing anything

If you want to make sure have the MG guy aim where the baby's spawn and just yeet them out of existence upon birth. there ya go mom is free

On a side note: When R2D2 and R2E1?

[dry pumice]

Me thinks E1 will make them mega unhappy

Terrific level

I'm still mad

[icy cave]

D2 already did

[icy cave]

yeah but you are special

[dry pumice]

Hey, at least D2 is fun. You get to shoot lots enemies in fortified positions.

My favorite

[icy cave]

He doesn't want to shoot he want stealth and as he is doing R3 this will quickly come to an end

[tardy ingot]

R3C1 and D1

[icy cave]

exactly 😏

and after that R4 -R7 which have major error components

[olive robin]

Are u talking of error alarms

[tardy ingot]

whats the mission with the least "forced" combat in the game?

R1B1 only has 1 mandatory alarm

[olive robin]

Wouldn't it be that one then

I don't think any mission has no alarm

[tardy ingot]

i dont think that theres even another mission with only 1 alarm?

[hidden ridge]

reactors dont count I guess

[tardy ingot]

(no blood doors or long errors)

how many alarms do you need to do in R4C2? i think only 1 blood door and 1 alarm are mandatory or am i wrong?

at that point its just so much bigger than r1b1 that it might be similar in stealth to combat

[hidden ridge]

only high?

[tardy ingot]

yep

[hidden ridge]

mmm

I dont remember the drop of glps but

I think you could skip the blood door

But you'd need to do mom room which has an alarm

scout zone also has an alarm

[tardy ingot]

would have to check, i dont play r4c2 that often lol

[olive robin]

Well if it's purely based on combat, if you had 2 sentries and mined a door while c foaming it over and over till the scans were done

Could you count it as not being combat

[tardy ingot]

no thats still forced combat

[hidden ridge]

hybrids dig site zones require key in mom zone I think

[olive robin]

Then it's prob that one with a single alarm like you said

[tardy ingot]

R3A2 is semi arguable if you consider blood door less combat than an alarm. (not quite R1B1 lvl tho)

[hidden ridge]

So you'd only open 1 alarmed door, zone before extreme and that's it

[tardy ingot]

only has an extract alarm aside from 3 blood doors

[hidden ridge]

I dont think it's enough

[tardy ingot]

you need to do an alarm to even get to the alarm for mom zone?

[hidden ridge]

yes

very first zone

has an alarm

people open blood door to make it easier

[tardy ingot]

R6D2 has 2 alarms + 1 blood door

[hidden ridge]

otherwise they spawn at your spawn and that's a bit of a pain

[tardy ingot]

with pretty tough stealth

so overall
R1B1 least combat
R2B2, R3A2, R4C2 and R6D2 have low combat

[icy cave]

Yep and that's it

[tardy ingot]

R5B2 can be done with 2 blood doors and 1 alarm i guess?

or 2 alarms + 1 blood door

what you prefer

[icy cave]

And add in sec + ovl and you can remove R4C2, R6D2 and R5B2 as well

[hidden ridge]

?

[tardy ingot]

main

[hidden ridge]

Don't both cell zones have alarms?

[tardy ingot]

no

wait

do they?

i havent gone to the far one in ages

does it

[hidden ridge]

I... played it once since alt r5

pe then never came back

[icy cave]

same 😅

[hidden ridge]

so I only went to one of them

[icy cave]

Hate the level

[tardy ingot]

i played it a few dozen times, but only ever went there once. In speedruns its just wasted time

R5B2 speeds are absolute banger btw

made me love the level a lot more

[icy cave]

doesn't matter anyways he on R2D2. @hidden ridge time for you to do your magic. I don't have time

[icy cave]

I believe you but for me that level will always be bad. not even hard just bad

[hidden ridge]

By the way, yes, r4c2 main requires at least 2 alarms or 1 alarm and 1 blood door no matter what

key for dig site zone is inside mom zone which has another alarm

[icy cave]

Who does only main 🤮

Absolutely barbaric

[hidden ridge]

behind blood door, the other zone needs a cell and that's behind alarm for scout zone

[icy cave]

(would insert the roman for you sleepo but cant )

[hidden ridge]

well the question was only for main 😄

[tardy ingot]

well the question was for least possible forced combat

which is basically always main

[hidden ridge]

let me check if r5b2 both have alarm

[tardy ingot]

smth like r7c3 secondary is the rare case of no forced combat

[icy cave]

true

[hidden ridge]

r2b1 only has 1 alarm but 2 blood doors

[icy cave]

turn off the game. check m8.

[hidden ridge]

and it's a big alarm at that, so...

[tardy ingot]

barely any stealth tho

[icy cave]

Least forced combat

[hidden ridge]

yeah I agree

[tardy ingot]

r2b2 in comparision has
a giant stealth zone
a scout stealth zone
2 zone with sleepers

[hidden ridge]

Well if you dont count the error, r5b1...

[icy cave]

count it

[hidden ridge]

I feel like we're approaching the question from the wrong PoV

[tardy ingot]

im looking at it as stealth parts/forced combat parts

[hidden ridge]

where it'd be like "which map has the most enemies you can bonk stealthly"

Yeah that's better

[tardy ingot]

which is why r2b1 and r5b1 arent there at all

[hidden ridge]

yeah I get it

[latent obsidian]

R5C1? 🙂

[icy cave]

I am carefull when speaking to a german AND an Italian at the same time, I remember last time

[tardy ingot]

2 alarms, 2 uplinks + extract @latent obsidian

[icy cave]

2 alarms, 2 uolinks

[latent obsidian]

Yeah but you get a 2 big giant zones and 3 sleeping zones

minimum!

I mean the answer is just R1B1 tbh

[tardy ingot]

R1B1 yea

mostly just brainstorming what else

R1B1 only having a class 2 alarm in exchange for 6 stealthable zones

[latent obsidian]

R4C2 isn't bad

the alarms are pretty easy

and there is a lot of diverse stealth

[icy cave]

R4E1 if you the one doing code searching and make it past reactor has potentially a lot of stealth

[tardy ingot]

r4e1 if you cut out the beginning, the ending and the actual shooting :^ )

[icy cave]

Just spitballing

[latent obsidian]

R5B4 if you doorbug

[icy cave]

You disgust me

[latent obsidian]

Its a joke! Its a prank!

[icy cave]

Ok I'll allow you again

[hidden ridge]

by the way @tardy ingot that BC trick is fantastic

[dry pumice]

R2B2 is pretty nice for stealth practice, somewhat.

Bazzilion giants so you get to practice on them. Spitters. Room with like 4 scouts after the alarm.

No fucking supplies too, so failing stealth will cost you in the long run.

[tardy ingot]

wake all the giants like a conga line

[dry pumice]

I'm baffled by the four x2 dis packs all over the level

The only source of infection on that entire level is the ONE zone with spitters.

Granted there's a lot of them, but come on.

Imagine getting 80%D by some spitters

[hidden ridge]

btw, yes

both doors for the last glps in r5b2 have alarms

now, cell zone has only 1 cell and some glps

I dont know if you could ever get the rng to skip both alarms

still you'd have to do both blood doors even if that was the case

[dry pumice]

I want a level where there are no alarms and only blood doors. Just one after another.

And have them progressively get worse

[tardy ingot]

its 2 alarms + 1 blood door as the least combat with most stealth for it then

[tardy ingot]

oh no
places mines with religious intent

[fierce walrus]

make it so you have no tool refill in the level

And have like 15 bdoors

[dry pumice]

And maybe even a scout that's in the same room and is ready to scream at first opportunity.

[wind wren]

Does burst cannon occasionally shoot through the holes in for ex giants chest? As in if I shoot it from a small distance and it blows out the chest, can the next bullets miss and go through that hole?

Cuz sometimes I feel like they r left w too much hp

[worthy stratus]

Yeah same thing happens with other burst weapons, once the head or other body parts are gone the subsequent bullets just fly past

[minor fractal]

Usually it's missed shots or damage fall-off.

I don't believe the chest hole actually loses collision.

I don't think any hitbox other than head can be removed, actually, but may need to double-check.

[dry pumice]

It would be pretty funny if it did

[wind wren]

So just skill issue, got it 👍

[wind wren]

It's never on the head. Usually only when I go for centre mass

[worthy stratus]

Might have to test the collision then, sounds interesting

[wind wren]

Tbf I just throw my mouse way back if I go for headshot when the burst starts sooo ye

[tardy ingot]

Try crouching, if you time it well it negates a ton of recoil

[wind wren]

Damn that's sounds smart, will try
Thanks

[sturdy yacht]

ANyone knows? initiate drop doesent work hwn playing with friends?

[past mesa]

Someone have a version difference

[past mesa]

Have your friends leave one by one in drop

And you will be able to find who it is

[sturdy yacht]

smart! but what can the issue be?

[neon gust]

different game version, someone its modding or someone just have desync

[past mesa]

Either you didn’t get an update some file isn’t good someone changed info

[neon gust]

all the homies should verify game cache

[past mesa]

You can check version number in the bottom right

[neon gust]

and not use whatever mod theyre using if they have one

[past mesa]

Yeah it is some time of level gen mod

If it is one

[mossy aurora]

i think someone using a vpn can also cause this issue?

[dusk canopy]

Hey everyone, I'm new and thinking of getting the game, was wondering if someone could answer a couple of questions as it's a lot of money.

Does it work on steam deck?

Is it worth it if you only have a team of 2?

I typically have 2 hours a night. Is that long enough to beat most/ all levels or is there some form of checkpoint system (on release reviews say there are not)

[tardy ingot]

1. dunno
2. worth? Thats a personal thing, you can play with 2 bots but its gonna be hard. 2 player parties make everything possible tho. (Remember that its still tough for 4 player parties aswell). But you can also just search for players on here
3. 2 hours are more than enough to clear any level if you go at even alright speed. There is "checkpoints" for some levels in newer rundowns (read campaigns) but they dont save it overnight, only for that session if you should die.

[ocean spindle]

on the steam deck it works partially, ive seen people who play on em [well at least, two or so] and the game works, but not a couple of buttons n mechanics, more evidently the terminal system, where is were [?] u can find information about objective items resources and many many useful stuff
if ur playin with a buddy thatt has a keyboard tho, u should be ok for 99% levels

or well, 92%

or so

[raven ravine]

Is the burst sentry still considered the best choice of sentries?

[ocean spindle]

yeh

:]

[raven ravine]

Thank u ❤️

[inner sorrel]

It’s the best all purpose choice, but that doesn’t meant the shotgun and sniper can’t be useful in certain situations. (Auto sentry doodoo)

[tardy ingot]

auto sentry rn might also have a niche

couldnt test it yet

[inner sorrel]

True

[wind wren]

im having a sync issue and cant start the game, what could be the cause for that?

its not internet

[inner sorrel]

Steam issue. Probably gotta log out of Steam and log back in

[ocean spindle]

steam maintance day

[fierce walrus]

oh yeah probably steam is just down

[wind wren]

just retried and worked for some reason thanks regardless

[tardy ingot]

tuesday fun

[hidden ridge]

"Once accepted, you will have access to exclusive missions, rewards and organic campaigns"

what do they mean with this?

As in I get access to expeditions?

[lone mortar]

RxGX play

and others to come

when R8 does not satisfy the players

[hidden ridge]

I'll release a guide on how to sleep

[lone mortar]

and will pull out a R6::// EXT moment

[hidden ridge]

Phase 1: Imagine the sheeps as cute animu grills

[lone mortar]

[hidden ridge]

Phase 2:Now imagine them jumping over the fence but reeeeally slow

[icy cave]

Already have it thx

[lone mortar]

others dont lol

[winged turtle]

when are they adding bio symbiosis to Hel Auto Sentry?

[arctic marten]

tomorrow

[winged turtle]

Dauda: Nice

[fierce walrus]

Dauda cant even say nice

he has no manners

[dry pumice]

Now that you mention it - HEL sentry should seriously be the first in line of that hot bio action

[raw jackal]

What should I expect with R3C1?

[dry pumice]

Literally 0 recollection of that

But knowing its C1 probably something that kinda hard but not really hard.

[ocean spindle]

the ending bein a bitch

the rest not that bad

[icy cave]

Charger error

[winged turtle]

you should expect to bring hel Rifle

[icy cave]

or hel gun

[ocean spindle]

or hel rifle

[minor fractal]

Or the High-Caliber Pistol.

[dry pumice]

Basically anything that has a reliable 15 / 30 breakpoint

Now that i think about it 15 is a rare number in this game huh...

[sturdy glen]

ye

why do you think hel gun is so good

[dry pumice]

I told them to make PR into 15.0, but they didn't listen.

[tardy ingot]

PR at 15 would be busted lol

[dry pumice]

Current one is, but the old 8 round one would've been fine, somewhat

That would've been 4 chargers or 1 giant or uh... What was it? 2 flawless hybrids?

[tardy ingot]

it would only be great vs everything in exchange for small mag

which at that point isnt even small in relation

[sturdy glen]

I wouldve rather had pr move towards shit damage really high precision

[dry pumice]

"Oh boy i love my x10 preci~ ... Are those chargers?"

[winged turtle]

"hope you have too much main ammo buddy."

[dry pumice]

Sudden thought

How exactly charger's heads work again?

[tardy ingot]

its a head

[sturdy glen]

its just another limb

[tardy ingot]

[dry pumice]

By that i mean: is it possible to deal less damage to a charger by hitting it?

[tardy ingot]

no

…

[dry pumice]

You know, that high cal over there with x0.7

[sturdy glen]

treat it like another arm

[tardy ingot]

It works like a limb

[dry pumice]

Oh thank god

[winged turtle]

luckily it is not a precision point with a x1.0 modifier

though, that would be hilarious

[minor fractal]

The game also has a hard floor to keep precision damage from going below the base damage of a weapon.

Excluding fall-off ofc.

[winged turtle]

oh neat

[sturdy glen]

huh, did not know that

it makes sense for it to exist but theres no case where it is necessary in game

[winged turtle]

it does mean its more work for modders to make Very Funny weapons

[jaunty latch]

better to have it in case they accidentally create a situation for it later

[hazy wagon]

How To Open A Drawer That Is An Upside-Down Drawer

[dry pumice]

You mean a box that's looking in the wrong direction? You can't - its a bug

[floral acorn]

in strange aeons a bot may go ~8 meters below it and reach out its lockmelter-wielding hand and open it for you. if no lockmelters (or betterbots), that box will not open. ever.

(fun to see a bot climb down the 12 meter ladder to open the box at the top of said ladder.. magic 🙂 )

[stuck elm]

Is burst cannon currently at highest damage it's ever been?

[neon gust]

ye

[ocean spindle]

yeh

[stuck elm]

Used to be 100 I think, then like 95, now currently 110.

ˢˡⁱᵍʰᵗˡʸ ⁱⁿᶜʳᵉᵃˢᵉᵈ ᵈᵃᵐᵃᵍᵉ

[sturdy glen]

yea, ammo wise its a bit less than it used to be but damage per burst/bullet is highest

[winged turtle]

does the damage per refill about approximate?

pre-nerf vs post this buff

[sturdy glen]

its less

not by much though

[winged turtle]

daamn

[dusk canopy]

Thank you! Good to know all this stuff 😄

[halcyon mango]

It works on steam deck yes. I run it stable 30 fps on lowest settings w/ keyboard and mouse

A few levels that have bad optimization drags it down to 24-27

[dusk canopy]

Thanks for letting me know 😄

[wind wren]

If I were to give a bot a sniper, what would do with it? Just use it on the smalls?

[dry pumice]

Most likely.

[thorn dawn]

Why do Malatack Assault / Burst rifle have giant magazines if their max ammo count per mag is only 30???????

[inner sorrel]

They have big ass rounds lmao

[thorn dawn]

2 damage

would the round be even bigger than 556?

[wind wren]

knife has to be to occiput to 1tap scouts right?

same w bat right?

[fierce walrus]

yes

back of the head for both

[thorn dawn]

can i 1tap scout with the bat

[wind wren]

^ @thorn dawn

[thorn dawn]

MY BAD LOL