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#gtfo-related-questions
whole grove
That's good, I love BBC, I'll try some tn
lone mortar
and bbcs punch at the speed of light
Mike tyson
modest thunder
devs should really add being able to toggle if bots auto pick up supplies
soft crater
arbalist has a slower dps than Veruta
craggy pier
Veruta is awesome
It's the rambo gun
60 rounds of brr and a fast reload
Also do shadows move slower than usual sleepers
I swear they're way slower and get closer
modest thunder
they do
ashen frigate
Shadows have indeed a slower move speed and shorter range than normal Strikers
lone mortar
Shadows have indeed a slower move speed and shorter range than normal Strikers
Except john cenas
clever apex
is r6cx terminal uplinks better to do from top to bottom?
craggy pier
Yes
clever apex
Is it because there's more enemies the more terminals are done?
craggy pier
Over Time yes
clever apex
I see, thanks
craggy pier
Hybrids and shockers
Also top terminal is more open than mid n bottom
Only have to deal with flyers and strikers n shooters when uplink starts
soft kiln
mid > top > bottom to avoid tons of flyer and big flyer during mid terminal uplink
since top is quite easy to hold
hidden ridge
doing bottom last means doing bottom with fog eh, unless they changed it in alt
but bottom is so easy that it doesn't matter
dry pumice
I don't remember fog in CX (DX)
craggy pier
Its better to do top first
Shockers wont peek much into mid one
soft kiln
bottom is easy + you could use fog repeller if you happen to keep one
dry pumice
Not outside, that is...
craggy pier
Fog in dimension ?!!
clever apex
Yeah fog rises overtime in the final part of cx
craggy pier
That wasnt a thing before
soft kiln
it was
craggy pier
How Bad is it
dry pumice
Is it? I swear to god I never noticed.
clever apex
Noticed that when me and my team where in the mid terminal cuz we were slow
tardy ingot
doing bottom last means doing bottom with fog eh, unless they changed it in alt
Still a very simple funnel tho
craggy pier
Im certain there was no fog
soft kiln
it was a thing
it just fog update after R7 making it very visible
minor fractal
I am certain there was fog.
clever apex
How Bad is it
Its the thick kind of fog
dry pumice
Even on my failed bot run I wasn't even breathing the fumes of it at the bottom last.
soft kiln
pre R7 fog are less dense
hidden ridge
Bot to top you dont see the fog at all, basically
top to bottom is very noticeable from what I remember
It still doesn't matter
dry pumice
Is it vanilla fog or mountain dew fog
hidden ridge
even without fog reps I remember doing bottom last and thinking it was a breeze compared to bottom to top
clever apex
just vanilla
craggy pier
Its the thick kind of fog
Foggies time
dry pumice
Not really a problem then, probably.
ember mulch
but annoying
Naah not really
ember mulch
No checkpoint is a must ❤️
native crag
hey guys
i have problem with game
it say net work error but already try few methods but still have issue
what should i do?
twin hamlet
Just try reloading the game, there shouldn't be any problems with launching atm
lunar rain
Question what is a good tool for soloing?
I feel like mines could be but then again a sentry would be nice as well
modest thunder
mines for sure
dry pumice
I feel like burst is the universal answer. Mine or foam can come in handy in specific levels where you can really get the value out of it but generally burst is just your best friend
It can cover you, softens up targets for you, breaks waves apart...
Suddenly you're not so alone
lone mortar
Suddenly you're not so alone
Suddenly you feel comforted by soloing
tardy ingot
I feel like mines could be but then again a sentry would be nice as well
Mines or burst sentry generally
Depending on the level
lunar rain
kk thank you
polar shuttle
Can you apply ammo directly to a placed sentry
dry pumice
Yes
Hard to tell what's the % of it though
I believe it starts showing yellow numbers once under 50%
So just hit it until it is white again
ocean spindle
bursts sentries are about 260 so stop when u get there
sniper 33
shotguns idk
auto sentry 550 or so
so u can just hit it off with the numbers on it
soft crater
bursts sentries are about 260 so stop when u get there
sniper 33
shotguns idk
a...
269 Burst
32 Sniper
58 Shotgun
583 Hel Auto
60 C-foam
∞ Bio
8 Mines
compact junco
its a shame they wont remaster rundown 7, AWOL is my favorite mission working alongside Schaeffer but its so difficult even when I'm playing with a 4 man team
rundown 7 overall could use a lil ALT improvement...
sturdy glen
just take 4 scatterguns
compact junco
the average home defense method
ocean spindle
an alt wouldnt do it much easier tbh
most alts were easier cause the guns we have are better n stuff
along with minor minor changes, sometimes buffs
compact junco
oh so the ALT doesnt exactly change the level to be easier just the player equipment?
ocean spindle
the alt changes the level, but it can change it to be easier, harder or even the same
like r2b1 which is the same
we just have better weapons now
dry pumice
Alt 7 would only need to happen to straight out the lore being all over... And fix the goddamn D1.
compact junco
The lore somewhat barely works all together
like i was so happy at r6d1 to get schaeffers message
dry pumice
7 is not helping
compact junco
but there are no subtitles for Schaeffers message at R6D1 and its only played around the door so its hard to hear
would be nice if they made it audible in the whole room and added subtitles like when he speaks in R7
tardy ingot
we just have better weapons now
And even this is a meh
Overall weapons are better but the strongest havent rly gotten better
dry pumice
Schaeffer for first 6 alt rundowns: 🤔
Schaeffer in 7:
compact junco
yeah first mission in r7 he contacts us like we best buds but he doesnt talk to us until r6d1 and thats a pre recorded message it feels like
ocean spindle
And even this is a meh
Overall weapons are better but the strongest havent rly g...
yeh pretty much, we dont have an r6 unnerfed scattergun or a r3 burst cannon or un [r4 r5 broken weapons]
:]
compact junco
honestly dont see why remastering rundown 7 as an ALT would be too hard, if only just to change interactions with Schaeffer and for the lore to be consistent
dry pumice
There is a small funny possibility that R8 is just heavily derailed R7 alt
compact junco
like ig id be fine with the levels as they are with their bugs and all if the story was consistent
compact junco
There is a small funny possibility that R8 is just heavily derailed R7 alt
bruh no way
that would be gross
2 R7's??
dry pumice
Key word: derailed
compact junco
and not to mention that the R7 that isnt the same storyline with the ALT stories would come BEFORE R8(R7ALT) would WRECK my OCD
dry pumice
Same time line but different objectives because things changed too much for old objectives to make sense
compact junco
already not having ALT on R7 gives me massive headache
compact junco
Same time line but different objectives because things changed too much for old ...
just remaster rundown 7...
i feel like they are making it more difficult
minor fractal
just remaster rundown 7...
Waste of time and resources.
tardy ingot
„Just“
compact junco
Waste of time and resources.
so remaking a new rundown which is the same but different isnt a waste of resources?
would be easier to make a few small changes in R7 for it to make sense then make R8
tardy ingot
i do hope it gets some fixes with R8 patches
But really changing lore (outside of maybe adding some voice logs) idk
minor fractal
Seems like a fairly uncharitable read of what Artek actually said.
compact junco
?
someone told me they were making R8 and used a quote saying "a gruesome end to the story" implying the rundown would be a new fresh thing that is R8. Not a remastered ALT R7
so if they make this an ALT R7 where will be rundown 8?
minor fractal
Indeed.
Heavily derailed means not an alt, not the same levels, not the same content, etc.
dry pumice
Derailed.
compact junco
Same time line but different objectives because things changed too much for old objectives to make sense
dry pumice
Yeah.
compact junco
but it would still technically be rundown 7?
minor fractal
No.
dry pumice
Eh... Semantics.
compact junco
a different rundown 7
dry pumice
Warden would have to classify it that way.
minor fractal
Story-wise, it's technically altR7 if they go that route.
compact junco
i still dont see why giving rundown 7 a facelift and slapping alt on there then making r8 is a waste of resources
minor fractal
But in actuality, it's not an alt rundown, it's R8.
Because R7 doesn't need a facelift?
There's not really much they could change.
compact junco
Because R7 doesn't need a facelift?
kind of does, the story isnt consistent
minor fractal
Bugfixes maybe, but that isn't an alt.
dry pumice
D1 disagrees
minor fractal
That's bugfixes
compact junco
bug fixes, making the story consistent, making Schaeffer interactions consistent
that too
dry pumice
We need need giant wings for some terminals
minor fractal
kind of does, the story isnt consistent
Nobody cares. You're appeasing a subset of a subset of the community, when you could just address it in R8, and you don't have to pay voice actors for no good reason.
civic mist
people want new content, not recycled stuff
compact junco
why need to pay them? use the same voice messages
hidden ridge
The story was all subtle shit until r6
minor fractal
Then you're not addressing anything.
minor fractal
I'm not sure what you mean by "addressing inconsistencies" when you aren't changing a single voice line.
hidden ridge
it's hard to care about the story imho
minor fractal
What is inconsistent?
compact junco
i thought the voicelines were fine, i dont see how those differ from the alt story but add subtitles for r6 interaction, get rid of/change a few logs in rundown 7
or am i missing part of the story cause i didnt see the originals
compact junco
it's hard to care about the story imho
depends on the player
compact junco
the game isnt really about the story its more co-op but it has a good story that it would be nice to see made whole
minor fractal
Why do we need an entire alt rundown for this?
heady moat
(The lore so far is mostly all archived on the wiki anyway)
compact junco
omg
minor fractal
See you in R8.
compact junco
bruh
bros acting like he just impeached the president
i said facelift
i was talking about the lack of an alt label messing with ocd
heady moat
What would a facelift entail?
minor fractal
Bugfixes are nice, but R7 is fine.
compact junco
making the story consistent? idk the entire story myself but ive met dozens of players disastified with how the alt story is different?
i mean why change the story in alt at all what was the point of that genuine question
minor fractal
There are certainly peopel that think the story direction is dumb as fuck.
That's not because of a lack of continuity.
compact junco
Bugfixes are nice, but R7 is fine.
ive fallen through the map so many times tho
minor fractal
That's just how the story was writen.
minor fractal
ive fallen through the map so many times tho
Wow, it would be nice if they fixed that bug.
Which has nothing to do with R7, btw.
compact junco
the story isnt dumb its that they said there are 2 different stories going on?
minor fractal
Yes, there are two timelines in play.
compact junco
Which has nothing to do with R7, btw.
its only happened in r7. consistently r7 maps
minor fractal
That is stupid and contrived.
heady moat
Parallel universes which may probably be overlapping now
compact junco
Yes, there are two timelines in play.
and thats fucked lol
minor fractal
Yeah, it is fucked.
compact junco
Parallel universes which may probably be overlapping now
but why do such a thing when laying out the story is so simple?
i have a feeling the devs were just wingin it and made it up as they go
minor fractal
It's also not a problem that a second pass on R7 has anything to do with.
Yeah, I think winding down the game very suddenly after R7 might have resulted in a bit of "winging it"
compact junco
It's also not a problem that a second pass on R7 has anything to do with.
a facelift on r7 to change the story to allign with alt rundowns? how does that not have anything to do with r7?
minor fractal
a facelift on r7 to change the story to allign with alt rundowns? how does that ...
Because R7 is not an alt.
compact junco
cause from what ive been told and seen r7 is the odd one out here
minor fractal
Making it align doesn't make sense.
The problem isn't R7, it's the two timeline contrivance.
minor fractal
If you "made it align," it would just be one tiemline.
heady moat
technically the ALTs were the problem
minor fractal
You would be retroactively rewriting the lore.
Which might actually be worse.
R7 is at the end of R1-R6, of which the originals have their own logs.
compact junco
technically the ALTs were the problem
the problem was they made another timeline with alt when they didnt need to they coulda just used original story with facelifts on the levels but now that the alts outnumber originals, and the original r7 is filled with bugs and issues and everyone ive talked to so far says it needs a facelift, just facelift r7
minor fractal
GTFO is filled with bugs and issues.
compact junco
Which might actually be worse.
ive seen alot of games change parts of the lore, rewrite them, theyve all turned out better
minor fractal
Ok.
compact junco
because if they have to change the lore its probably for the better because a discrepancy or something that doesnt make sense
compact junco
R7 is at the end of R1-R6, of which the originals have their own logs.
so change a few logs? remove some old, add some new, doesnt require new voice acting exactly
whole grove
How many expeditions do we think will be in r8?
dry pumice
He's got a point actually
compact junco
How many expeditions do we think will be in r8?
the circle looks small
minor fractal
How many expeditions do we think will be in r8?
At least 6
dry pumice
All you have to do... Is just remove Schaeffer from the picture.
minor fractal
so change a few logs? remove some old, add some new, doesnt require new voice ac...
Not what I'd call a facelift. Take it up w/ #gtfo-lore.
compact junco
thats... not quite where i was going lol
dry pumice
No more scan In front of the glass in A1, no side quest on B1 just so that he would open a door for us.
minor fractal
Gameplay-wise, there's nothing left for R7.
compact junco
Not what I'd call a facelift. Take it up w/ <#585062984619917342>.
its called making the story consistent but you didnt like me saying that so i called it a facelift
dry pumice
Alt R6 got cut to shit Schaeffer's monologue wise.
dry pumice
And various Dragons are praising it as a QoL
compact junco
why did they do that?
dry pumice
Terms are acceptable here as far as I'm concerned
compact junco
Schaeffer is an important part of the story and hes the reason prisoners will escape (maybe) and some missions take place
minor fractal
its called making the story consistent but you didnt like me saying that so i ca...
honestly dont see why remastering rundown 7 as an ALT would be too hard, if only just to change interactions with Schaeffer and for the lore to be consistent
Also, you're just lying, but I can't blame you because your position was horrendous.
dry pumice
why did they do that?
Combination of "voice acting expensive" and the fact that all the veterans get super mad about having to have their precious ears blasted with monologue while they do a minute log scan with nothing to do but gaining tinnitus
minor fractal
It's okay, I understand.
compact junco
your taking a dicussion like a political debate
minor fractal
Making altR7 is moronic, and a bad idea.
ocean spindle
the hells goin on here
minor fractal
I'm glad we agree.
compact junco
Making altR7 is moronic, and a bad idea.
why?
ocean spindle
if u two r havin a discussion can u have it in private
this is gtfo related questions
compact junco
i didnt lie at all? i dont get it i just mentioned that it would be nice to change things about R7 to make it fit better with the ALTS
compact junco
if u two r havin a discussion can u have it in private
its about the game tho?
ocean spindle
ah well yeah but sounds aggresive tbh
compact junco
im curious as to why they wont change paticular things i was looking for a reason
minor fractal
Your position was that they should make altR7.
compact junco
ah well yeah but sounds aggresive tbh
i aint tryna be aggressive im just talkin but sorry if it comes off that way, i aint goin round callin me a liar lol
minor fractal
You then backed off of that and claimed you never said it.
compact junco
Your position was that they should make altR7.
slap an alt label on it after a few changes
dry pumice
I agree: they should. Don't have to. But in ideal world it would be preferable.
compact junco
You then backed off of that and claimed you never said it.
i think you misunderstood my misunderstanding of your misunderstooding
compact junco
I agree: they *should*. Don't have to. But in ideal world it would be preferable...
this
minor fractal
Then your position has no meaning.
You're advocating for a change that is basically nothing.
compact junco
im not changing my story at all, im using different words cause you seem to get mad when i use paticular words
your taking it too seriously just calm down
compact junco
You're advocating for a change that is basically nothing.
id like to see things fit better between the ALTS and r7?
dry pumice
I do.
compact junco
i do?
civic mist
isnt the whole thing of the alts that it splits off?
jagged shore
i'd like to see it
dry pumice
Frosty, maybe.
civic mist
why would R7 split off aswell?
minor fractal
Then go to #gtfo-lore
compact junco
isnt the whole thing of the alts that it splits off?
yeah
i found it silly they did that but now since they did do it it would be easier to change r7 to fit alts right?
dry pumice
why would R7 split off aswell?
It will stick out like a sore thumb.
civic mist
it really doesnt
dry pumice
It absolutely does.
compact junco
Then go to <#585062984619917342>
its a gtfo related question i was asking tho
dry pumice
Especially when we advise people to play chronologically.
civic mist
the whole reason they did this alt shit in the first place is because they needed time for R8
change my mind
minor fractal
You frame it that way, but it really isn't.
dry pumice
So let's imagine
minor fractal
It seems entirely lore-related.
dry pumice
R8 is released
minor fractal
Alts are first-and-foremost a gameplay feature.
compact junco
its a gtfo related question about r7 and the lore being different
minor fractal
"Alt R7" implies a gameplay remaster
Which is unnecessary, and a waste of resources.
Just make R8.
compact junco
Which is unnecessary, and a waste of resources.
but why
dry pumice
And now we have a weird picture:
R1 through R6 is Smart Schaeffer.
Then suddenly in R7 he changes to half insane madman Schaeffer.
Then in R8 he's... Back to "normal"? Maybe?
compact junco
i think it would be nice if the story fit all together into one big pie, i think alot of the bugs ive experienced have only been in r7
minor fractal
Because R7 is already a high quality rundown, there's not much you could change game-play-wise that's interesting and also cheap vs. making a new rundown, and then there's also the issue of whether you keep OG R7 or not.
compact junco
i think some of the levels dont even make sense
civic mist
the bugs aint gonna be fixed with an alt R7
compact junco
And now we have a weird picture:
R1 through R6 is Smart Schaeffer.
Then suddenly...
yeah lol whut goin on
civic mist
hell, they aint gonna be fixed with R8 probs
minor fractal
i think it would be nice if the story fit all together into one big pie, i think...
Name one R7-specific bug. There are some, but I'm curious if you actually have examples.
ocean spindle
tbh if a level doesnt make sense thats not somethin u can quite change with an alt
the levels on em are practically the exact same
compact junco
Because R7 is already a high quality rundown, there's not much you could change ...
if the original story was good why change it in alts? I feel like thats the point of changing story in alts cause original wasnt good so whats wrong with replacing the original story?
compact junco
tbh if a level doesnt make sense thats not somethin u can quite change with an a...
story, size of map
heady moat
if the original story was good why change it in alts? I feel like thats the poin...
probably for the benefit of returning players who played through it already and give a crap about the story
dry pumice
There's small possibility that R8 will address our concerns with, oh I don't know, time lines merging and different Schaeffers meeting each other, but we just have to wait and see.
civic mist
i dont think they changed the story because it was bad, they changed it so it would introduce an alternate reality no?
compact junco
There's small possibility that R8 will address our concerns with, oh I don't kno...
bruhhhhh
i think they had a good story but with this different timeline crap its just a mess now
minor fractal
if the original story was good why change it in alts? I feel like thats the poin...
You don't need an alt rundown to adjust story, which you can do with logs, R8, etc. already.
ocean spindle
story, size of map
the size of some maps are kinda part of it, u say b2 its meant to be long, same as d1 or c2
compact junco
i dont see why they couldnt just stick to one path? does anybody know why they changed it at all?
compact junco
i dont think they changed the story because it was bad, they changed it so it wo...
thats why? they messed it up on purpose? lol
heady moat
to drive more attention from more people who otherwise wouldn't have cared
minor fractal
You are also replying to
"Alt R7" implies a gameplay remaster
with lore. This isn't gameplay related.
dry pumice
I don't think there's the reason.
heady moat
and probably allowing them to free up some manpower to get started on the cyberheist game (seeing as they haven't producing as much original bespoke content for GTFO over the past year)
compact junco
You don't need an alt rundown to adjust story, which you can do with logs, R8, e...
ok then? thats where the term facelift comes in which i used
minor fractal
Alts are gameplay-focused.
compact junco
lets give it a facelift to fit the lore
civic mist
got no friggin clue why they changed it, a lot of ppl dont rly care about lore in the first place
compact junco
Alts are gameplay-focused.
this is also irritating, the game has a story it wasnt an inconvenience to gameplay
it was part of the game
civic mist
you can play this game without giving a crap about story
minor fractal
Then you're talking about something that not very many people care about.
mossy aurora
shotgun sway was an r7 specific bug, but they fixed it thank the lord
dry pumice
The alternative reality thing started pocking it's head way back in OG R6 with random logs that would change in different ways. Perhaps they always had this planned and it's just a good excuse to re-release old content.
civic mist
theyre alts because theyre bringing them back with a slight tweak because they cant 100% copy the OG
civic mist
shotgun sway was an r7 specific bug, but they fixed it thank the lord
D3 when
minor fractal
The lore community is largely fairly dedicated players, and only a subset of all dedicated players.
compact junco
you can play this game without giving a crap about story
you can but every good game has a good story, and why get rid of the good story? i mean its still there in the backround so now its just annoying that we dont see the story at all?
civic mist
i already have cleared r6 and have uninstalled the game
sad times, see you for R8
civic mist
you *can* but every *good* game has a *good* story, and why get rid of the good ...
just wait for R8 to (hopefully) conclude it
compact junco
conclude one of the timelines
civic mist
bring em together mby
compact junco
im worried we gonna leave the other bud hangin
civic mist
who knows
mossy aurora
sad times, see you for R8
minor fractal
They're kind of ingrained in the lore.
dry pumice
you *can* but every *good* game has a *good* story, and why get rid of the good ...
Tetris has none and it's a 10/10 basically.
minor fractal
Can't really "remove" a timeline.
compact junco
Tetris has none and it's a 10/10 basically.
haha
civic mist
https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/585063132553281556/1152878920409...
impressive
minor fractal
Without rewriting basically everything since R7.
compact junco
Can't really "remove" a timeline.
they removed the timeline of rundown 1 to 6 and replaced it with alt rundown 1 to 6?
civic mist
they didnt remove
heady moat
unless ofc the timeline becomes redundant (due to everyone relevant being killed off/leaving that timeline or something)
civic mist
the gave us an alternate timeline
compact junco
so if this game was to make sense then remove rundown 7, replace, make one timeline?
minor fractal
Like, there are multiple story beats that specifically involve the fact that this is an alternate timeline.
compact junco
the gave us an alternate timeline
over the original 1 to 6 timeline?
minor fractal
And we are canonically the same quad from R7.
heady moat
so if this game was to make sense then remove rundown 7, replace, make one timel...
that would leave the original timeline hanging (what happened to the squad since then?)
minor fractal
and the OG timeline
civic mist
over the original 1 to 6 timeline?
i suppose
compact junco
that would leave the original timeline hanging (what happened to the squad since...
all thats left of that is r7
minor fractal
over the original 1 to 6 timeline?
Not over, covering the same time period/mission set.
compact junco
Not over, covering the same time period/mission set.
but with a differnent story tho right?
heady moat
all thats left of that is r7
but that would be an instance of leave the other bud hangin
minor fractal
Like, you'd have to also remove Dauda and Bishop from AltR6CX
civic mist
im fairly certain the goal for the alts wasnt the new lore/timeline, it was retaining players by bringing back old content
minor fractal
but with a differnent story tho right?
Technically, no.
heady moat
and giving them a head-start on developing their next game
minor fractal
Both timelines exist in the same in-game universe.
compact junco
so now 2 timelines, 6n rundowns for one, one for the other, seems to me if they want to stick to one timeline theyd replace r7, but if this alternate timeline is intentional then its a bit silly to me but so be it
dry pumice
I'm afraid you just have to swallow the pill of the fact that the ALT nonsense is a direct consequence of their FOMO rundown replacement experiment, which was a mistake to begin with. They can't fix this. Or... They can, but they'd have pull a No Man's Sky and do it for the sake of doing it and pure passion.
compact junco
i think they got tired of working alts said "lets go to 6, do rundown 8 and we done here"
civic mist
if they didnt do alts and R8 would still remain with its current relase estimate they have 1 1/2 years of dead silence
heady moat
so now 2 timelines, 6n rundowns for one, one for the other, seems to me if they ...
if they wanted to stick to one timeline they wouldn't have bothered with the "alt" malarkey
minor fractal
Unfathamobly, this question would have been resolved much faster if you posted in the lore channel instead of the questions channel.
compact junco
I'm afraid you just have to swallow the pill of the fact that the ALT nonsense i...
there it is. "pure passion". I feel like that was lost somewhere in the making?
cold quarry
the whole reason they did this alt shit in the first place is because they neede...
you're probably right lol
minor fractal
It's almost like this is the wrong channel to discuss something completely divorced from gameplay, especially when you disguise your question as a gameplay question.
compact junco
if they wanted to stick to one timeline they wouldn't have bothered with the "al...
i was told it was just a remaster of the original levels
civic mist
you're probably right lol
insert change my mind meme
heady moat
i was told it was just a remaster of the original levels
yeah, and they chose to introduce a parallel universe to justify it
civic mist
they just didnt have R8 yet
compact junco
It's almost like this is the wrong channel to discuss something completely divor...
it doesnt say gameplay it says gtfo related questions man, so i asked here, big deal you arent forced to be part of the convo but i asked here
heady moat
I'm guessing that they probably do have R8
civic mist
like holy hell, in a roiadmap before R7 release it was markes as 2022
dry pumice
i was told it was just a remaster of the original levels
Remaster is a strong word.
compact junco
yeah, and they chose to introduce a parallel universe to justify it
unneccesary mess
minor fractal
it doesnt say gameplay it says gtfo related questions man, so i asked here, big ...
Do you think your average GTFO-chatter is a lore buff or a multi-thousand hour sweatlord?
Genuinely asking.
heady moat
unneccesary mess
'Unnecessary mess' which they intentionally chose to introduce.
compact junco
Genuinely asking.
genuinely asking is what i was doing, idk this community im not active on this server 24/7 like you bro
minor fractal
Fair enough.
dry pumice
The changes are miniscule if any.
Ironically the strongest change was R5E1... A change that they fucked up the deployment of and only realized when it was reported as a bug in ALT R6 deployment, lmao.
Classic 10c moment, my eyes are genuinely swelling with funny tears.
compact junco
'Unnecessary mess' which they intentionally chose to introduce.
so the devs just dont care anymore is that it? Thats a shame cause the idea of this story and this game is fantastic but its just a huge mess now innit
heady moat
but point is, I'm guessing that all of this was a contrivance to buy them an extra year or so of time to get preproduction started for their next project whilst keeping GTFO somewhat alive in the meantime
neon gust
it was always a mess
compact junco
but point is, I'm guessing that all of this was a contrivance to buy them an ext...
they couldve bought time while not messing things up haha
dry pumice
Don't we all.
compact junco
game lore aside i think the devs have lore of their own, "why did they do this? was it because of this?"
their decisions are... mind boggling
civic mist
their decisions are... mind boggling
not just lore wise
hidden ridge
Mayhaps because noone really had a plan in the first place
compact junco
Mayhaps because noone really had a plan in the first place
part of the dev lore
compact junco
not just lore wise
yeah like why change rundowns every update? i feel like alt was a reason to introduce all rundowns at once but then why the alt remaster
so confusing
hidden ridge
they very probably had their own idea of what the game would be like
stuff like the earlier trailers kind of make me think that
compact junco
they very probably had their own idea of what the game would be like
its like 5 different people had an idea and had to take turns 😂
heady moat
technically there were 10
compact junco
~~technically there were 10~~
good point
compact junco
got to something like 60 now right?
civic mist
yeah like why change rundowns every update? i feel like alt was a reason to intr...
as i said above, they just needed time and it was probs just some funky idea to change the lore with it
compact junco
as i said above, they just needed time and it was probs just some funky idea to ...
dang.
civic mist
i dont think it was planned this way before R7
minor fractal
Tbf, this is probably consistent with their plans for the MWP.
compact junco
i appreciate the talk with everyone involved my mind has more questions than before but thats how it goes ig lol
neon gust
With the release of rundown 7 they realise that the way they were continuing the game was completly unsustainable so they decided to use the memory stick shit and teleportation shennanigangs to change how the game its going be
minor fractal
It's possible that it's genuinely something they rewrote, but this might also just be something they already had noted down somewhere and they just never meant to implement major time travel in reality.
neon gust
re-adding old rundowns with some minor tweaks here and there
minor fractal
Like, the original EF01 logs include all of the time-dilation stuff well before Alts.
compact junco
With the release of rundown 7 they realise that the way they were continuing the...
love that word. "shenanigans"
heady moat
and, of course, buys them plenty of time for starting the preproduction busywork for cyberheist
dry pumice
The truth is: gtfo is a very experimental project that tried some... Interesting things. Not all of them great. And it continues to be just that with the whole ALT thing. So unfortunately we just have to accept the flaws for now.
The lore was always an after thought. You can see it by reading logs in rundown release order. It was less than a skeleton for first 2 rundowns, then it suddenly started growing meat somewhere near R4 and onwards.
Today we have some batshit crazy lore going on, and barely anyone cares because all the people here are the gameplay junkies because it's hard to get involved into the lore of a game where the said lore is a rare log in a random ass terminal in the middle of an error alarm.
neon gust
but as of 2024-2025 no GTFO after r8
dry pumice
At his point the lore is just the only writer flirting with #gtfo-lore people
neon gust
Not at all experimental
lack of focus and overambition
all with a spice of mismanaging
heady moat
hopefully they've learned from the mistakes
neon gust
i mean we can say experimental to cover the flaws
but overall 10cc its a young company/game studio
dry pumice
The whole FOMO rundowns shtick was heeelllla an experimental feature.
neon gust
wasnt a feature
dry pumice
I don't know a single other game that tried something crazy like that.
dry pumice
Aside from Destiny removing shit, but that was incompetency me thinks
waxen jetty
Where is csgo cobble
neon gust
when you have your own employess on stream saying "it kinda sucks that we have to delete months of work"
heady moat
Where is csgo cobble
csgo workshop
Then again, the various co-op missions from the CSGO operations...
👻
minor fractal
The rundown system is very much built for content that is "cheap" and can be shat out every month or two.
But that doesn't necessarily make for interesting gameplay, and presumably the devs didn't like making content that way.
heady moat
especially as each one would need to factor in a new cohort of new players
minor fractal
Like, R7 is probably easily the best rundown ever, and it doesn't seem like they could have made that in less time w/out their full staff working on getting it out the door.
waxen jetty
LOL
dry pumice
So what you're saying is that R8 will be shit
minor fractal
What I'm saying is that R8 will take 6 months as usual.
dry pumice
Maybe my not-alt R7 theory is not that out there...
minor fractal
assuming they have at least 10 people on it.
sturdy glen
r8 will probably be the best shit out there
tardy ingot
either the worst or the best. Or anything inbetween
neon gust
its gonna be like r6
heady moat
Still wondering how they're gonna resolve the inevitable cosmetics issue :^)
compact junco
due to new tool
elaborate?
neon gust
Still wondering how they're gonna resolve the inevitable cosmetics issue :^)
its a non issue
sturdy glen
the new stuff they add might be bad but their level design will likely continue imporving
compact junco
Still wondering how they're gonna resolve the inevitable cosmetics issue :^)
whats wrong with the cosmetics?
neon gust
because this will be the last rundown that the whole team gonna be working on
dry pumice
whats wrong with the cosmetics?
You can't earn all of them, probably.
There are more cosmetics than there are missions.
heady moat
or completionists are gonna complain about not getting any unlocks
compact junco
I NEED MY HATS
heady moat
fun fact: there are full numbers about this issue on the wiki
civic mist
petition to unlock all cosmetics with R8 completion
heady moat
I spent waaayyy too long documenting it because ADHD brain go whee
compact junco
petition to unlock all cosmetics with R8 completion
ill sign dat shidd
i need muh hats
dry pumice
Imagine being the guy to never unlock scorpion helm because stars decided to align against you
compact junco
im so glad i got that early on
dry pumice
Mashing X to Doubt
compact junco
i needed that kovac stuff with the camoflauge cause it was awesome but i didnt get the pants i needed to finish awol with was hard af
dry pumice
There are like 2 cut tools at least. But something tells me they will remain cut forever.
compact junco
did they say theyd add a new tool but not what it is?
dry pumice
No.
neon gust
i mean do you know what it is?
its been know for a long time now but rather not get banned
dry pumice
Uh, how can i say this.
heady moat
anyway there's enough cosmetics for 88 main sectors/random unlocks. There are current 71 main sectors (unlock opportunities) in the game (veterans had a total of 86 unlock opportunities)
compact junco
was it that map tool that ive seen on mod pages\
heady moat
R8 is going to have 17 expeditions :^)
compact junco
what was the other cut toooool
compact junco
or will i be shot for asking
heady moat
(as in cutting stuff)
dry pumice
Something something flamethrower. Early prototypes of one. Never went anywhere.
compact junco
mapper aint shit
even if its not good it would be cool to have
heady moat
(it is a tool that serves one purpose and that is to cut things open)
dry pumice
Either way I think dragon's memeing. They won't add shit in R8.
compact junco
i like stuff
heady moat
no, more of a 'door destroyer' I think
neon gust
welding tool was more of a map/objective thing
neon gust
not really a tool tool
neon gust
like we see in current game design
mapper yeah it kinda was
since bio didnt exist
but obviously bio its infinetly better since it actually helps on enemies
heady moat
oh wait just saw an iceberg image
I see now
makes sense (both in concept and why it was cut)
neon gust
yeah it was suppose to be a minigame
like hacking security doors
that got cut
many things got cut due to how the pacing was and stuff
I am 10cc biggest ally and enemy
tardy ingot
I am 10cc biggest ally and enemy
You cant be 10cc biggest enemy
you arent banned more than 2 dozen times
and dont add a „yet“
minor fractal
I would say Pitski, but he's more of a public enemy.
cold quarry
when you have your own employess on stream saying "it kinda sucks that we have t...
this is so funny
neon gust
I would say Pitski, but he's more of a public enemy.
well i did say i was 10cc enemy and ally
pitsky was more of an enemy of the people
technically he was right tho
there was a bugged that it would give him that extra tool
dry pumice
I would say Pitski, but he's more of a public enemy.
Is that some obscure GTFO discord lore I'm not aware of.
neon gust
but i dont think its gonna be a fun convo
minor fractal
Pitski is innocent 
neon gust
extremely rare yes, likely to happen no
not saying hes innocent
man suck
big bongo
dusky crest
whats the hardest mission in this game?
sturdy glen
depends on who you ask, but its between r5e1 and r4e1 generally
solemn sorrel
From what I've played so far 1&2 are generally the easiest and most straightforward. The As all seem to be generally easy throughout rundowns too.
"Easy"
amber spindle
looking forward to it
R4 and R5 are considered the hardest rundowns no question
silent light
I have a question; are there any easily accesible rundowns ( in a r#ra or r#rb? ) that contain like bossfights. i kind of want to do one but dont want to look online becuase spoilers. im still kind of new ( about 30 hours,one completed rundown and one prisoner efficeny badge)
latent obsidian
I have a question; are there any easily accesible rundowns ( in a r#ra or r#rb...
Do you want to know the specific levels to go to?
silent light
uuh
latent obsidian
Or just if they exist?
silent light
yea if any exist in the a or b levels on any of the rundowns, i have progress on rundown 5 and 2 ( about to r#b1 on both)
not the specific levels cuz surpises are cool
but if they exist on any of the rundowns
latent obsidian
A tier
silent light
oh
damn i mustve missed it
aight ive already done it so like, which a level and where maybe?
if you know ofc
latent obsidian
|| R5A2 overload ||
silent light
anything i should worry about before i click it?
latent obsidian
Its just the level and optional objective
latent obsidian
have fun 🙂
dry pumice
whats the hardest mission in this game?
Pretty much all Es are contenders because they are E and some 
C's and D's are pretty out there as well.
I still have the PTSD from R4C3
I don't wanna see 
ever again
dusky crest
im enjoying shit not being easy, not tried to do a yet
I love Dauda, the only man ill give a biotracker to
civic wave
I'd say r4e1 is probably the hardest, r5e1 cell skip too, but they're different kinds of difficulty
AND THEY JUST NERFED R5E1 TOO
dry pumice
I love Dauda, the only man ill give a biotracker to
You have patience of an angel
I regreted my decision to give him bio after 20 minutes
dusky crest
ive heard the irishman and the brit too, but theres something about "this thing is pissing me off!"
that pushes me on
stuck elm
AND THEY JUST NERFED R5E1 TOO
You mean alt version in general or it was recently nerfed?
dry pumice
You mean alt version in general or it was recently nerfed?
They wanted to change it in ALT R5, but fucked it up and the change got pushed retroactively when they released ALT R6.
stuck elm
What specifically changed?
dry pumice
Begining's big angry bois got replaced with quick grabby bois
civic wave
more resources
replaced 1 tank with snatcher (which is, well, you know, easier)
and then added 1 more snatcher but that doesn't really make up for anything
stuck elm
Well that's an F
Which tank got replaced?
More resources is surprsing. The level felt pretty good resource-wise.
craggy pier
Blood door giant error tank
stuck elm
Hmmmm. That's a bummer because that's really where the level ramps hard in difficulty (if not going for cell skip).
dusky crest
dumb question but how different are the alt rundowns from the OG ones?
im playing them chronologically and just wondering if the story and terminals are different in the alts
minor fractal
im playing them chronologically and just wondering if the story and terminals ar...
Logs are quite different if that's what you mean.
There are gameplay changes, but they are otherwise about the same.
dusky crest
neat
minor fractal
It really depends on your bar for what a change is.
dusky crest
ill probably find wiki stuff for OG entries after im done then
lone mortar
ill probably find wiki stuff for OG entries after im done then
prob should do that before ALT gaming
warm epoch
silly question, do normal flashlights trigger the monster dudes?
latent obsidian
silly question, do normal flashlights trigger the monster dudes?
yes
dry pumice
silly question, do normal flashlights trigger the monster dudes?
They react to flashlights and proximity walking.
Sprinting, breaking locks near them or failing a hack near them wakes them up immediately.
They also can sense crouching too when they go semi-aware (light up and start clicking).
warm epoch
ok thanks
mortal moon
phrog
hidden ridge
silly question, do normal flashlights trigger the monster dudes?
Weapons have different flashlights
Some are stronger and make enemies react from further away
usually, the headlight one (the one you get while using melee for example) is the weakest
heady moat
Sniper rifle and burst rifle have the strongest flashlights iirc
rancid smelt
how do u link discord voice on #lfg-beginners ?
fierce walrus
enter a voice chat, and next to the line with the vcs name (so like GTFO-2) there should be a little icon of a man with a plus
click on it and copy the link, then post it in your message
wind wren
What r the best sentries for general use? I'd assume burst are best but not sure
hidden ridge
What r the best sentries for general use? I'd assume burst are best but not sure
generally burst is solid
sniper+bio requires some setups like long corridors
wind wren
Not bringing a bio so burst it is. Thanks
fierce walrus
not bringing bio should be a crime
wind wren
I'm just a bad boy like that 😎
fierce walrus
=(
uneven compass
What are the best guns to give to the bots? I just default to assault rifle and fast machine gun. Does it even really matter?
hidden ridge
What are the best guns to give to the bots? I just default to assault rifle and ...
burst rifle and veruta mg
fierce walrus
or burst rifle and revo
hidden ridge
bots ignore charge up and they can burst cancel
fierce walrus
or burst rifle and revo
but only if you play solo
hidden ridge
dont give them heavy hitters unless you want to get heavy hitted
melee doesn't matter
tardy ingot
Not bringing a bio so burst it is. Thanks
Always bring bio 
ashen frigate
What are the best guns to give to the bots? I just default to assault rifle and ...
If you value your life, do not give them shotguns or any weapon that could kill you in a single hit)
hidden ridge
(I once gave vanilla bots burst cannon on r3c1 and they did very good with it but whatever)
Also, bots cheat with biotracker so give one of them that
uneven compass
Appreciate the answers. I usually play solo with the bots in A-B tier levels.
tardy ingot
Also, bots cheat with biotracker so give one of them that
At this point im torn on this
Obviously they are giga broken with it pinging wise but it makes sh…. a meme vs beginners being suprised with it usually
hidden ridge
At this point im torn on this
Obviously they are giga broken with it pinging wi...
Consider this: When they first got released I realized, and many others did, that the fact that they cant wake shit up, nor get infected, and can shoot even with fog or low visibility meant that some parts of some maps are so easy to do with bots that you might aswell do it with them, then call for real people if shit gets bad for them
Let me elaborate with a classic example: R6C2
in OG, to get a "easy" clear, I got to checkpoint with bots by basically giving them scraps
Then I called in people
fierce walrus
R6D1 with reactor skip
even without infection resistance
bots absolutely carry the class 6
hidden ridge
With a good enough group, I could have obtained the same result
But with bots I bypassed a part of the map, which gave me an advantage for the "second" part where I needed people
The mere fact that bots exist is a game changer
tardy ingot
bots absolutely carry the class 6
Class 6 is so easy with them
Actual nemesis fight is annoying tho as they like to tank the shots
hidden ridge
Then you add the fact that they dont care about infection, fog, spitters, stealth or visibility
And yes they decimate ||shadows||
mainly because ||shadows are basically nerfed strikers that are invisible||
but they're visible for them
fierce walrus
Class 6 is so easy with them
Actual nemesis fight is annoying tho as they like ...
yeah, it took me like half an hour to do the fight
hidden ridge
so they're just nerfed strikers to a bot
languid jungle
If you value your life, do not give them shotguns or any weapon that could kill ...
My bots just kept killing each other
Cost me the sacrifice mission
fierce walrus
what how
dry pumice
My rection too
fierce walrus
i dont think i ever had bots team kill each other
dry pumice
What guns did u gave them
fierce walrus
and defo not very often
languid jungle
what how
I don't know
Wave started and they came from one side and they shot into each other
Happened about 4-6 times
fierce walrus
what mission was that?
dry pumice
What guns?
fierce walrus
and yeah what guns
languid jungle
what mission was that?
R2B1
hidden ridge
The fuck are those
Rifle and HSMG I think
fierce walrus
oh yeah aacrat is heavy smg
languid jungle
special is
- Malatack HXC
- Buckland AF6
- Shelling Arid 5
fierce walrus
are those 3 shotguns
hidden ridge
that's HAR,Shotty,HCP
dry pumice
Found the issue
languid jungle
are those 3 shotguns
only the buckland
dry pumice
First of all don't use gun manufacturers - no one knows those.
High cal, pump action, etc
NEVER GIVE THEM STRONG GUNS
languid jungle
High cal, pump action, etc
OK
so just use the name it as on top the picture
dry pumice
Yep
hidden ridge
Just give bots burst rifle+veruta, really
hidden ridge
First of all don't use gun manufacturers - no one knows those.
only exception being MG because there's both arbalist and veruta
fierce walrus
burst rifle and revo work well on solo
soft crater
I am sad. You think he is Chinese. Not to mention if you don't know where he is from
dry pumice
I think he's from rainbow six
languid jungle
who's that chinese guy
Harry from R6
He died
dry pumice
According to discord server of origin anyway
hidden ridge
I am sad. You think he is Chinese. Not to mention if you don't know where he is ...
Wuxia 3: the red glass forest of flying tiger dragon jade daggers
soft crater
Harry from R6
He died
hidden ridge
I read that as "Harry from Rundown 6"
soft crater
The name of the sticker is quite literally his last words
languid jungle
I read that as "Harry from Rundown 6"
he's an easter egg, shhh
languid jungle
The name of the sticker is quite literally his last words
I feel like Diemos shot him because of that
soft crater
Probably
Then again ubisoft has kinda just been "EXCEEDINGLY BORING" with story/lore/character Backgrounds etc
Many games that aren't what they used to be.
heady moat
The books were alright tbh
soft crater
Well those are the books
hidden ridge
R6 Athena's sword was fun
soft crater
Books in general have been better than the adaptations
languid jungle
Then again ubisoft has kinda just been "EXCEEDINGLY BORING" with story/lore/char...
The gameplay isn't boring, very entertainming watching my teamates that I swear have lost braincells do random stuff
hidden ridge
I still remember playing Rogue's Spear
wind wren
If I disconnected during a mission, how can I reconnect?
lone mortar
If I disconnected during a mission, how can I reconnect?
New lobby code
wind wren
Fuck
wind wren
I yeah I crashed
wind wren
Wasnt host
lone mortar
Thats gonna be rough
wind wren
No,only I crashed,they r still in mission
lone mortar
Into a more suitable host
wind wren
And I wasnt host
wind wren
Where do they find it? I asked em for it but they dont know where it is
fierce walrus
Where do they find it? I asked em for it but they dont know where it is
They press escape and it will be at the bottom of settings
a giant red button
wind wren
Alr I'll ask em, thanks a lot
hidden ridge
ehhh
wind wren
Restart game?
hidden ridge
maybe
but if the button doesn't appear at all it's either a locked slot or something got fucked up somewhere
was it r1c1?
wind wren
No r1a1
unreal burrow
How should I find a team? Just connect to a group that is looking for players at the level I want?
latent obsidian
How should I find a team? Just connect to a group that is looking for players at...
unreal burrow
Yes, and it's saying "Do not join voice channels without an invitation", so how?
latent obsidian
Can you see a list of lfg channels in the channel list?
unreal burrow
Can you see a list of lfg channels in the channel list?
Yep
latent obsidian
Cool, if you see a listing there for a level you want to play and there is space in the vc feel free to join
unreal burrow
Ok, thanks
latent obsidian
"Do not join voice channels without an invitation" just refers to joining voice channels that haven't advertised that they are looking for players in the lfg channels
dry pumice
Yes, and it's saying "Do not join voice channels without an invitation", so how?
Basically don't jump into channels that already have people without having a reason to do so in the form of an LFG message or a direct invite.
There are some people who love joining random channels with empty slots and start causing mischief, like spamming random sounds.
solemn sorrel
Or they'll join and get mad when you cannot talk
lone mortar
They get a special note from me :)
How so
lone mortar
[insert typewriter gif]
Great
past star
You have a special note dw
soft crater
Real question
I don't have a answer
lone mortar
You have a special note dw
Dw i do not care
past star
I’m aware
river dove
why is r6ax called that?
river dove
noo, the x part
lone mortar
Extension
ocean spindle
it's an extension level
lone mortar
To the rundown
ocean spindle
came out a bit after normal r6
river dove
so still normal difficulty
latent obsidian
Its called AX because it is lore focussed
lone mortar
so still normal difficulty
A bit more tricky
ocean spindle
cx it's a d level tho so b careful with that one i've heard things
minor fractal
I mean, it's the hardest between B1 and B2 imo.
ocean spindle
probs cause, originally it was Bx, CX and DX
and it was like, there were already 4 D levels
and they didn't wanted a D5?
i kinda guess it's that but idk
latent obsidian
the rundown screen looks nicer now tbf
thorny creek
why is this the onlt rundown with x then?
When the extension levels released they were intended to be non-rundown related and instead focus on a side story (that was still related) with lore elements that would tie into R7. Back then they were located on the bottom left of the screen
river dove
When the extension levels released they were intended to be non-rundown related ...
makes sense
ocean spindle
would u fuck the error hole
lone mortar
The hell is that kind of question
ocean spindle
the one that asks
ocean spindle
both
ocean spindle
:[
vague bridge
if theres sleeping enemies around a corner
and i do a running jump
do they detect me midair or when i land
also what if i stop holding the run key while jumping
dry pumice
Unsure, but I believe they react to landings.
icy cave
any advice for r2d2
use the loot in the side zones and keep the reactor loot for as long as possible
Like wave 8 onwards
icy cave
For the first 3 waves you can obv burn an ammo and a tool
icy cave
any weapon recommendations i guess
Carbine/veruta, two players with choke/sniper/hel rifle for giants and hybrids
minor fractal
any weapon recommendations i guess
Bots or 4player?
minor fractal
Probably 2 wave clear, 1 sniper, 1 versatile.
icy cave
last time i was running heavy smg/veruta
also what part you mostly die?
craggy pier
after wave 7
first time we died at extraction
after that wave 8
after that idk
after that wave 7 because we used up all our ammo
icy cave
first time we died at extraction
after that wave 8
after that idk
after that wav...
If you don't waste to much time you should always have time to list res of every zone and ping your ammo's
You should have more than enough for the level in that case
sterile citrus
You can pull the circle scout room and the terminal room and still pass. There's more than enough ammo n tool
craggy pier
also any advice on using the biotracker well for waves? It's often hard to get the entire wave
either i get 3 enemies or by the time i can scan everything they've arrived at my face and are ready to french kiss me
sterile citrus
Are you setting up on bridge or doing the 1 way funnel
craggy pier
1 way funnel near doors
dry pumice
Yeah, it's purely luck and practice at that point. You just scan last possible second and hope it doesn't glitch.
craggy pier
glitch?
sterile citrus
I think bridge is easier with pub. 1 way funnel if people reload odd it can get weird. Plus sniping easier on bridge
craggy pier
Can this game stop shitting itself for 3 seconds
what kinda glitch does the bio have
dry pumice
Bio tracker is quirky sometimes and pings all the wrong enemies
Or maybe theres a mechanic I don't understand
waxen jetty
Low skill level?
dry pumice
In my experience it refuses to ping at close range.
Some enemies get skipped for some reason.
past mesa
I think you are missing the bio pings
dry pumice
I genuinely have no idea. I hate using bio and bots utterly spoiled me.
craggy pier
also can i ask about how the terminal actually works
I saw on youtube some guy did like
LIST U _49 and it listed all resources in zone_49
why does this command work
how do all the shortcuts work on terminals
ocean spindle
works cause U is a letter than is it most objective and important items
ocean spindle
its a filter, for Utility and all that type of stuff
dry pumice
I assume because U is a very rare letter.
ocean spindle
it lists keys and stuff
past mesa
why does this command work
List is a filter
ocean spindle
E because its ZONE, u can do ONE, NE and E with the number of the zone
and it works the same
past mesa
U is in the word resources
past mesa
That is why it gives you resources
craggy pier
so
dry pumice
And also U as in secUrity, which also lists keys.
ocean spindle
never seen that happenin
past mesa
never seen that happenin
We saw it the other day
ocean spindle
u could but idk why would u ksks
craggy pier
just trying to understand
past mesa
i could also type like
LIST RESOURC ONE_69
Yeah
craggy pier
ok so what about all the other type of stuff you can do with list
past star
List U E_###
past mesa
You can also type list u 690 and it will give you extra data
craggy pier
are there other useful filters
dry pumice
and that would work
Yes.
Personally my commands of choice is LIST RES ZONE_123.
I know I don't have to type Zone fully, but it doesn't bother me and I like typing that word.
craggy pier
You can also type list u 690 and it will give you extra data
what data
dry pumice
It will catch anything that contains 690
past mesa
are there other useful filters
Like if you use e_###
You get anything with that data
So if you can use your mind as a filter
You can use less characters
craggy pier
also how did people even figure out list resources
heady moat
list keys or something like that
LIST KEY
craggy pier
the terminal doesn't mention that word does it
past mesa
I think it might?
ocean spindle
yes
dry pumice
It does
dry pumice
If you just LIST ZONE it will classify all the items found.
ocean spindle
Security i think
heady moat
Also the keys all contain the substring KEY in their name too :^)
craggy pier
oooohhh
dry pumice
Resources are just that.
Keys are SECURITY
dry pumice
And as we recently learned some items are classified as IDENTIFICATION
past mesa
And as we recently learned some items are classified as IDENTIFICATION
Which ones
dry pumice
PIDs and IDs
All of them
We had a guy who couldn't terminal the objective in... R2C2?
past mesa
Not as cool
dry pumice
Turned out they were IDENTIFICATION
ocean spindle
:D
craggy pier
are the burst rifle and assault rifle ok
dry pumice
Yeah
ocean spindle
yeah
dry pumice
Vanilla AR is kinda left behind, but it's not bad. Just not amazing.
Burst if somewhat of an upgrade damage potential wise, but... It's burst.
craggy pier
i want something versatile for d2
i always feel out of place with an smg because the sightlines are long
dry pumice
Try new improved Bullpup.
craggy pier
really?
craggy pier
hm ok
craggy pier
the reload is still long
ocean spindle
yeah but feels more normal
heady moat
Negligible base damage difference between AR and bullpup
dry pumice
Or try 556 Rifle
soft crater
AR is in a weird spot more so with Heavy SMG basically only having a bit less range.
soft crater
Bullpup still fills a weird niche of a long range automatic main. Which isn't most scenarios. Better than before but not enough to warrant me taking it.
lone mortar
Wait