gtfo-related-questions

[ocean spindle]

the first one does have a door

[dry pumice]

Class 3 is a fucking lul of a scan

[hardy grotto]

Id recommend doing the scans

artek I have a question for you

[dry pumice]

Just go for it, get it done, shoot any offenders

[ocean spindle]

new people take problems with a class III alarm? NAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[dry pumice]

YOu save a door for later

[civic wave]

I vehemently disagree

[arctic marten]

is this not how you do every scan?

[hardy grotto]

Are you a scans player or do you shoot the sleepers

[ocean spindle]

are u a scanner or a shooter

[dry pumice]

5+ usually require some preparation

[civic wave]

Doing the scans means you can lose the mission and losing the mission makes you feel sad

[hidden ridge]

ARE YOU A JOKER? ITS HIGH RISK

[civic wave]

So you should just sit there looking pretty

[lusty bramble]

this is great out of context

[hardy grotto]

LOL

[civic wave]

Oh

[hidden ridge]

The JOKER CLASS excels at high risk high reward situations

[civic wave]

Oh...

But really, you don't actually need to do much alarm prep if you're good at the game

[hidden ridge]

Better bots taught me that having aimbot basically is the same has having super good strats and shit like that

[hardy grotto]

could the better bots beat a tank tho…

[lusty bramble]

yes

[ocean spindle]

better bots taught me theres mod for bots

[civic wave]

If the weird guy got carried through r4e1 by better bots then yeah

Betterbots can deal with a tank

[lusty bramble]

who's the weird guy

[civic wave]

Azert

[lone mortar]

wait

better bots can deal with tanks?

[turbid horizon]

Now they definitely can

Pre ALT i don’t recall them being able to

Vanilla bots could if you got one stuck lol

[lone mortar]

huh

[hidden ridge]

I tried with R3D1's mom and pmom

[lone mortar]

moms yes

[hidden ridge]

And they were not only mauling the babies but destroying the moms themselves

[lone mortar]

i would say better bots shit on moms

[turbid horizon]

Vanilla bots suck with birthers bc they get stuck on the babies

[hidden ridge]

by my limited experience with vanilla bots and moms, they didnt really do much on the mom herself

[lone mortar]

vanilla bots

[turbid horizon]

Yeah now they do better

[lone mortar]

do nothing to moms

[turbid horizon]

Because of the hitbox changes

[lone mortar]

they like to mele babies

[turbid horizon]

They actually hit them way more

[wind wren]

Can I somehow ping a item multiple times if I'm playing w 3 bots?

[civic wave]

huh did they change the entire hitbox including bullets, or just the soft collision hitbox

[dry pumice]

I mean... You can. They just won't go to find it for you.

So there's no reason.

You ping it once, pay attention the ping dot and try to calculate route to that

[wind wren]

Yeah what I was trying to ask is if I can have them stay close enough to it so it pings it multiple times while I look for it. Poor phrasing on my part

[dry pumice]

Nah, it will stop pinging if you zoom out from terminal.

[hidden ridge]

He could hold Q until he's far but it'd still only ping once

Gives him some extra time though

[agile crag]

can some one help me, i keep falling forever or my teammate presses ready and it doesnt show me

[civic wave]

Connection issue of some kind

Try restarting the game/steam, turn off any vpns, etc etc

[agile crag]

should i use radmin or something?

[civic wave]

I literally do not know what that means

Alternatively have someone else host the lobby

[ashen frigate]

The game is peer-to-peer, meaning all clients need to have a good connection to the host to prevent these issues.
As Pachi said, you can try to switch hosts, as sometimes connectivity issues are stronger in one way

[wind wren]

I got a booster and it decreases regen speed, when does a player regen?

[civic wave]

You can regen up to 20% hp

So under 20% hp you start to regen

[wind wren]

Seems like basically no downside then

Thanks : D

[civic wave]

Yeah it isn't that impactful

[fickle glen]

I just started this game and how the hell do i find hsu 430

[ocean spindle]

u can check on a terminal!

theres commands on them to find and locate different objective items

in this case, if u wanna figure out the zone it is, u can use the command QUERY

'QUERY HSU_430'

[fickle glen]

im in the area but what exactly am i looking for

[ocean spindle]

ohhhh

well it looks big, its like human sized, its like a big box

[olive robin]

is the door bug where enemies get stuck outside broken doors patched

[ocean spindle]

there use the PING command

to see like in what area the object is

[fickle glen]

i did but i cant find anything in zone 52 e

thats where it says it is

[ocean spindle]

no, is a minor like priority since its more of an exploit than a bug, u have to seek it out

[ocean spindle]

E if im not wrong is above the stairs

like u see a big room with a top and down floor

the top floor is E

[fierce walrus]

its either up the stairs or up a ladder in the middle of the room

[ocean spindle]

search over there, is like a pod

yeah

[fickle glen]

i found it

tysm for the help

[fierce walrus]

no problem

[wind wren]

Can any meele pop a giant shooters head with 1 hit? I belive to have seen it in a video some time ago

[fierce walrus]

giant shooters heads dont pop till they die

[civic wave]

Probably with an IIX syringe, which boosts melee damage

Otherwise yeah the head can't come off unless they die to a headshig

[fierce walrus]

this applies to all enemies that shoot projectiles - their head doesnt get broken till they die

[wind wren]

Oh I see, may have been a striker then idk. What a good strat for solo meele giant strikers then? To the back and go for the limbs?

[wind wren]

Good to know

[fierce walrus]

back of the head - limb - limb - repeat limb till it dies

[wind wren]

But back of the head wont stagger right?

[fierce walrus]

it will

why wouldnt it

unless im missing smth

[hidden ridge]

If you really want to stagger big shooter you can full charge/whatever hammer on a leg

[wind wren]

I thought it's only when limbs pop off

[civic wave]

Breaking any part of a giant striker will stagger them

[fierce walrus]

head counts as a limb

[civic wave]

Head and groin included

Shoulder too

[hidden ridge]

Also IIRC there's a breakpoint at hp threshold

[wind wren]

I'm asking abt shooter

[fierce walrus]

OH you still meant shooter

[wind wren]

Yeye

[fierce walrus]

then yeah limbs

[civic wave]

Oh for giant shooters you kinda just like

Keep trying to hit the back of the head

[urban vale]

you can solo the big melees

[fierce walrus]

you can solo every enemy in the game technically

with a melee

[wind wren]

I see, thought thered be a better start cuz I kept getting hit once per shooter regardless of if I was going for head or limbs

[urban vale]

in stealth

[wind wren]

Thanks a lot guys : D

[urban vale]

oh yeah

[wind wren]

Solo no damage ||queen birther||? O.o

[urban vale]

do you do even more damage hitting the head from the back vs the front? in the context of the big melees

[wind wren]

Yeah

Back is always more dmg I belive

[fierce walrus]

yes

other than chargers

(in which case there is no head multiplier)

[bold atlas]

is it just me or has R6 been heavily nerfed

[neon gust]

its literally the same shit

but some minor stuff switch around

[craggy pier]

but sharper teeth

[neon gust]

like the bulkhead not been in fog in c3

[bold atlas]

huh

[neon gust]

squidward looking more sexy than before tho

[bold atlas]

i see

[neon gust]

overall the same shit

[odd gyro]

i just completed a level does my progress count???

[dry pumice]

It should, but we have reports of some kind of network issues

[odd gyro]

i hope it does we spent hours doing it

[dry pumice]

Will have to wait and see, but do expect the worst possibility.

[dusky crest]

just finished R1B1 but it didnt count? is it a 2 part mission or something?

[unique night]

network issues for me can't even start up the game.

[ocean spindle]

it seems like theres some issues with gtfo

we dont know yet what happened

[dusky crest]

thats ok

thanks for the info, thought id fucked up somewhere lol

[ocean spindle]

nono is oki

[winged turtle]

so if its giving me the no internet connection error its just keep restartin til it works?

[ionic aurora]

It won't help.

[winged turtle]

RIP

[ionic aurora]

It's just having complications.

Unknown complications.

[winged turtle]

bummer. other people have fgoten through tho?

[ionic aurora]

I think they were grandfathered in prior to the down.

[hidden ridge]

Maybe it's location-based, steam doesn't have only 1 server

[ionic aurora]

I know some people said they didn't get the completed for the level even though they did complete it. So It might just be they are on, and it's letting them play but not progressing/saving/rewarding.whatever

[winged turtle]

I and a French are having the issue, probably not Just location based

[hidden ridge]

GTFO has its own server were it stores completions IIRC

[hidden ridge]

I like how you phrased this

I and a french

I assume you're from US?

[winged turtle]

I am a burger, yes

[hidden ridge]

I see

[winged turtle]

and you are a pasta right?

[hidden ridge]

If you just said "I and a french" didnt really give any more context

[ionic aurora]

Good maybe those people will get their completions later.

[olive robin]

me and a friend w 2 bots beat R6B1 but it didnt mark it as completed? why is that

[verbal solar]

Servers down

[austere mantle]

Hello is it possible to get your progress back if servers shutting down made it that we didnt finish the run even tho we did? I do have video proof of it if possible

[turbid horizon]

no unfortunately

[austere mantle]

i dont want to do R1D1 again

oh well

[olive robin]

So I'll have to do it again?

[verbal solar]

Yeaaah...probably.

[olive robin]

Kinda lame to not warn us or anything

[sterile citrus]

@olive robin Also advised dont play tuesday around steam maintenance times for the same issue.

[dry pumice]

Its been 2 hours and its still offline?

Weird

[whole grove]

OK WHO BROKE THE GAME??

[dry pumice]

We have to wait and see until morning

[dawn jackal]

working for me

[desert sluice]

It's back up

[solemn sorrel]

has it been confirmed every level beaten by 1 person?

[past mesa]

Without some type of capping glitch r4e1(secondary) r7e1 and r6cx haven’t been done

Everything else is fair game

[dusky crest]

does bots count as 1 person? or is it true solo no bots?

[civic wave]

solo means alone

I hate how this keeps getting hung up on, bots don't count as solo

like can we just start calling it 1p3b or alone with bots or something, anything other than "solo (with bots)"

[past mesa]

It doesn’t matter for two of the levels but r6cx has been beaten normally with bots and a player

[dusky crest]

neat

[past mesa]

R6cx probs has the most prospects for being beaten no glitches

[dusky crest]

still trying to do R1B1 lol

fun game tho

[lucid sonnet]

Was playing R2C1 and ran into a blood door with a scout behind, so naturally as we started defending the wave the scout triggered immediately, is that intentional or can you open the blood door and fight far away enough not to alert the room?

[neon gust]

Those doors are always fun

[ocean spindle]

:>

[runic breach]

as an absolute beginner who just beat the first level... WHAT THE HELL IS A BLOOD DOOR?!

[neon gust]

You guys can playca minigame called "kill it before ot triggers"

[neon gust]

Play r2b1 and find out!

[runic breach]

on r1b1 rn lol

[neon gust]

Ok then wait till r2b1

[runic breach]

why r u facepalming i just meant that i had a while to go lmao

[neon gust]

[runic breach]

ur mom (epic)

[ocean spindle]

well u can try to shoot the scout as the door opens, which is what my team did, but of course u need a bit of rng and good weaponskills
the room ur in has a couple doors if its the blood door in the door, try puttin mines on those so the wave just automatically dies, and if u see it far away and its a big room, u can try to put the mine and run away too shoot farther away

but im not sure how well the last one works

[craggy pier]

you'll get there, dont let people spoil it for you

thats the main point

[ocean spindle]

spoils are stinky

[runic breach]

fair lmao was just curious

[craggy pier]

its more fun when u see it yourself

[neon gust]

Want me to spoil the whole gamr.

Ill.be your talking wikipedia page

!!

[ocean spindle]

_>

[neon gust]

Lemme overload you woth info

[craggy pier]

but you're the Magnanimous_Dragon

[neon gust]

Truly the best way to help a new individual at this game

[neon gust]

I had to google that word

[craggy pier]

😆

[neon gust]

[ocean spindle]

magnaninoso en español por favor

[velvet verge]

just finished the story missions for R6 alternate, had a question, out of all 7 missions there was only one time schaeffer talked to us over the intercom, is this how it's supposed to be, or is this a bug? got a lot of logs on the terminals but I felt there was a lot more potential for storytelling and kind of feeling I missed something

[cold quarry]

they cut most of them compared to original r6 cause people didn't like having to sit through it on replays

having an option to disable them after the first playthrough would've been better imo

[velvet verge]

thats fair

[left gust]

damn me and my buddies were gonna get back into the game cause we thought there would be a narrative

[ocean spindle]

theres a narrative but its kinda hidden

from r1 to r6 its mostly lore logs in terminals

and it is convoluted quite a bit

[neon gust]

Play for the gameplay way better

[cold quarry]

r6 and r7 narrative is different now anyways

[soft crater]

I play to teamkill

[timber linden]

What happens if i finish a r1b2 if i haven't done r1a1

[soft crater]

It's completed but it won't be unlocked

[craggy pier]

You'll be excluded from Goin into expeditions

[neon gust]

The police are on their way

You cannot run

[timber linden]

Damn

[neon gust]

Skipping levels are prohibited

You will be arrested within 24hr

[soft crater]

Let black dragon take you to R7C3

[timber linden]

That seems kinda long

I was hoping for a shorter wait time

[soft crater]

They can just spawn on you like cyber punk.

[tame rose]

can you command the bots? like deploy turret?

[craggy pier]

Yes

Also cfoam n mine

[tame rose]

how do u command them?

[fierce walrus]

Q

[craggy pier]

Press Q then press 1

[fierce walrus]

there are a couple commands in Q

[tame rose]

thx

[fierce walrus]

in 2 you can tell them to pickup objective items

in 3 to follow you

[craggy pier]

Myth
Doesn't work

[fierce walrus]

skill issue =)

[craggy pier]

Shut ur mouth

[neon gust]

I rather die

[lone mortar]

i mean

still havent seen the ALT R6 video from Dragon yet

so we still have a thicc chance

[neon gust]

Im slowly cooking an r6 video

Payday 3 releases today tho

[clever apex]

Have you guys tested if the strategy on deactivating the double alarm still work on alt r6d2?

[craggy pier]

Yes

Go big 🍆 and deactivate uplink alarm

[teal wave]

https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/1138362379961389076

How do people get their hud to be like in the image on there?

[hidden ridge]

That's a screenshot from a devbuild

[teal wave]

Ah

[hidden ridge]

They're still on the game's official page?

Notice the shotgun

8/120

I've no idea if there's a mod to make the UI appear like that

[teal wave]

Idk about the official page, its in the discussion I linked

[hidden ridge]

Yes

Which is in the game's old trailer

[neon gust]

That from 2017

Screenshots

The hud mostly stayed the same since the first public alpha

[hidden ridge]

It used to show gun 2d when selecting them though

[neon gust]

Og r6 introducing who picked up objective items and key and the newly updated objective stack

[hidden ridge]

looked cool

[neon gust]

In the new UI it doesnt look well

Also its such a minor thing its kinda negliable

[hidden ridge]

neglegible

but still I liked it

[neon gust]

The only thing i kinda want from the old UI its the sentry ammo counter

But that just kinda defeats the purppse of paying attention to your surroundings

And sound queues

[neon gust]

Whore

[hidden ridge]

fuck you

[neon gust]

🐒🍌

[hidden ridge]

Nice selfie

[neon gust]

Thats you

[craggy pier]

[mortal moon]

how do you join a LFG of someone or join someone elses game?

[neat orbit]

you copy the code they posted, then a new button pops up at the rundown selection screen

[marsh badger]

Would different melees require different approaches to clearing rooms?
(e.g: Knives can take care of Sleepers quicker but pales in damage capability compared to the Spear)

[fierce walrus]

I guess in the beginning kinda (or if you are solo), bat and knife would be better at clearing bigger groups of weak enemies close together (knife especially) and hammer and spear would be much better at dealing with giants

but when you get more used to things most melees can just do anything well

(especially hammer)

[amber spindle]

Hammer my beloved

[dry pumice]

Sort of.

Bat and hammer are more about stagger and being all rounded.

Dagger and spear are more about aiming for the heads.

Dagger and bat are faster and are great for killing small enemies in quick succession.

Hammer and spear are better for killing giants.

Hammer is well rounded at everything, while Spear is more for stealth as you can get extra damage from occi damage with it.

[fierce walrus]

me still waiting for hammer nerf

artek no way you use dagger instead of knife

[dry pumice]

Same shit to me.

[amber spindle]

Hammer is by far the best all rounder Wdym

[fierce walrus]

uhh

[dry pumice]

That is true.

[fierce walrus]

he said that

he said hammer is an all rounder

[amber spindle]

Oh

Misread

Hammer OP, Bat stinky damage, Spear no sprint charge and knife no stagger 🥱

[fierce walrus]

spear has sprint now btw

[amber spindle]

Wait what

[fierce walrus]

also stfu about bat

its good

[amber spindle]

Eh

[dry pumice]

Spear got buffed recently

[fierce walrus]

should have read alt R6 patch notes

[amber spindle]

The stagger is amazing

[dry pumice]

It'd genuinely okay now

[marsh badger]

My main is probably Spear, I like the distance it provides overall

[dry pumice]

Oh yeah, distance is very comfy.

[marsh badger]

It’s great when you want to not worry about having a giant turn your ass into a pancake whenever you touch its arm by mere inches

[dry pumice]

That too.

[hidden ridge]

I would lie if I'd say that I don't sometimes fail doing that, but you can totally solo a giant with hammer without him damaging or even screaming, provided you get an hang of the timing and he's far enough from anything

(also being host helps)

[marsh badger]

It probably helps too that controlling where the individual gets hit makes the process more efficient, so Hammer or Spear can be a really useful asset in experienced and skilled hands

But still, I prefer the Spear because of its superior distance, although I see the benefits from the Hammer.

[dry pumice]

Spear used to be utter shit before the last patch

Now it's not perfect, but definetely far more viable.

Just aim for the head.

[meager shuttle]

I tried to research ammo-efficient guns on google, but I don't see any answers besides datas, which main guns would you think is most ammo-efficient (aka shooting and still have more ammo from every refills), to compensate for the bad ammo supply on special guns.

I tried double-tap rifle and scattergun, and double-tap rifle almost often runs out faster than scattergun, or in any case I utilize them, I end up needing more ammo supply than anyone in the team. So, kinda want to figure that out, or I have to revert back to Carbine?

[dry pumice]

Probably carbine. But it really doesn't matter that much.

[ocean spindle]

usually automatics are the guns to go for when u have things as powerful as the scattergun, since its a nice weapon to kill, have ammo and help on big waves
u can maybs try smg, pdw, assault rifle...

[dry pumice]

Most mains are ammo efficient by definition. If you run out of ammo - you got bigger problems than ammo efficiency.

I heard DMR is secretly the king of ammo efficiency... If you never miss.

[tardy ingot]

???

Carbine is all but ammo efficient

it doesnt rly matter honestly tho, since the efficiency usually stays in the realm of 1 kill more or less for mains

[meager shuttle]

I could try DMR, I think I have not tried it since my friends keep taking it and fighting over it who can have it, since we are trying to cover most kind of the approach. Thence, how I got to handle scattergun/choke mod shotgun since I am always consistently taking down big guys if they don't react fast enough. But for main gun, I tried triple-tap, carbine, and I guess I stayed with carbine for most of the time lol since I can consistentaly land headshots

[ocean spindle]

triple tap i guess its burst rifle

[tardy ingot]

Specials do gain more% and generally are able to kill more enemies per refill
(Hell even scattergun can kill a lot of smalls per refill, but obviously its not its job)

dmr is also not ammo efficient for a main btw

[dry pumice]

Is it not? You praised it to high heavens

[ocean spindle]

also kinda a problem is more than with scattergun and, dmr for example, ur gonna have trouble when enemies get close, since with dmr u will have to spam it and scattergun u will have to reload it super fast and waste some ammo on the smols close to u

[dry pumice]

Who's the ammo king then?

[tardy ingot]

@meager shuttle if its all about efficiency then theres 3 main things to consider

1. theoretical efficiency (if you perfecfly hit and control shots)
2. practical efficiency which is put into
   range application
   fire rate control
   hitting shots
3. synergys

[ocean spindle]

[thats six things]

[tardy ingot]

Fucking discord formatting

[mortal moon]

how do I create a LFG? Im new to this game so im still figuring things out

[ocean spindle]

:3

[tardy ingot]

now

[meager shuttle]

Yeah. I used it up on line of mobs and it works really good, just need main to cover myself in case my team is unable to fend off monsters in close range or I need to defend myself since I am kinda the "frontline" where I meet monsters in my face when doing split scan

[dry pumice]

#how-to-matchmake

[ocean spindle]

hellooo, u can check #how-to-matchmake to see how u can share lobbies in the respective channels

[dry pumice]

Read instructions carefully

[ocean spindle]

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[ocean spindle]

just some advice!
always ask to not be carried, make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel

be sure to do the tutorial first [Training] and start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one

[tardy ingot]

for example. Double tap rifle and machine pistol can get nearly 12 kills per refill

But machine pistol suffers heavily from range and firerate issues. It also lacks synergys (which most low dmg guns do)

Double tap rifle is very hard to be perfectly efficient with aswell since you want to kill a small with 1 burst each. It doesnt have range issues generally, but is unreliable to 1 burst at range due recoil. Also no real synergy

[tardy ingot]

In the case of playing up front and wanting to stop waves of enemies theres 2 strong outliers

1. carbine, generally just an insanely good gun. Its not terrible efficient in theory (barely cracking 8 kills/refill) but it is easy to get kills with
   2 bursts if you headshot, 3 bursts if only body
   It doesnt have range (at least in usual combat) or firerate issues

The other is hel shotgun, but i would rly wanna combo that with scattergun/choke mod. It absolutely stops any wave tho and actually is insanely strong vs giants for a main.
Its decently efficient when 2 shotting enemies, but with penetration it can become a theoretical monster

if you are rly concerened about efficiency then id probably recommend the pistol or hel revolver

As semi automatics both are easy to control, both have considerably higher theoretical efficiency (9 for hel revo and 10 for pistol respectively) and after the pistol buff they dont rly suffer in range either.
Plus both have short reloads (if you reload cancel hel revos)

Hel revo also has penetration that ups it even further.

[meager shuttle]

alright I'll try hel shotgun, was also planning to try hel rev. Heard a lot about it when I was researching and it interested me, thank you so much!

[tardy ingot]

also, idk how confident you are in your aim. But sniper is a great choice vs giants (generally the best one) and doesnt suffer from range like scattergun does)

If you wanna be more of an all rounder (as in you can still deal well with giants but good with smalls) then its probably

Pump shotty or high cal

But choke mod, hel rifle and combat shotgun also work well (last one being low ranged, but in exchange a beast when fighting smalls)

Combat shotgun is also absolutely cracked efficiency wise with a theoretical efficiency of 22,5 kills/refill

[meager shuttle]

it could be also that I use up a lot of ammo because maybe I am always one who is shooting, I keep seeing lot of monsters come up on my team and I felt like they are struggling with shooting/fending off from distance, so that is maybe a factor why I am always running out of ammo

[dry pumice]

Yeah, that also can happen.

[tardy ingot]

that definetly happens yep

In my og squad im mostly the one shooting while in other teams its more balanced

[dry pumice]

Then again it also means that all the ammo packs go straight into your ass so it doesn't matter.

As long as the wave is dead who cares right.

[meager shuttle]

this exactly experience lmao

[ocean spindle]

i am the one who shoots the most but also the one who misses the most

[meager shuttle]

if I go down first, god bless the team they are in full panic mode

scattering apart in big room and sometimes they run into rooms seperate from each other

alright, thank you so much guys!

hel shotgun and choke mod shotgun or combat shotgun

yep I think that will work best for me

[dry pumice]

Oh yeah

HELshot plus combat shot = full brainless mod

Shooters / hybrids can be a problem, otherwise you just close the distance and go BRRRRRT

No wave can survive within your vicinity

[hidden ridge]

I'll never stop smiling at Artek's colorful way of explaining things

[meager shuttle]

lmao

how many % cfoam on scout again?

[tardy ingot]

bonk

[meager shuttle]

[wind wren]

I'm boutta do r1c1, can I somehow get the bots to stay on the point where I wanna defend? Or will they just run to the terminal with me either way?

[civic wave]

the bots will always follow you

but it should be fine

[wind wren]

Damn, ig maybe I should set up in reactor room then

[tardy ingot]

probably not

just start slowly falling back during the wave

[civic wave]

you'll have plenty of time before the next wave starts to pick off stragglers

[tardy ingot]

You have a long time to input code once wave is done

[civic wave]

could always have a sentry a bit further back to help pick off what remains after you fall back

[wind wren]

Oh I thought they keep spawning after during the code entering thing

Thanks a lot

[civic wave]

nah

reactors spawn a set amount of enemies at set points during the wave

if there's not enough room in the spawn cap for the enemies to spawn then the spawns get queued up, and the enemies will appear when there's enough room to spawn

[hidden ridge]

No you can stall the "put code in now" timer to gain some seconds instead of putting it as soon as you can

[fierce walrus]

Am i delusional or do i remember og R6D1 having disinfect packs in the jump gate room and the other dimension? But ALT doesnt seem to have them

[ashen frigate]

I do not remember there being any (or if there were, definitely not a lot)

And no Fog repelers in the first zone either

[dry pumice]

Yesterday squad found like one X1 use somewhere and that's that.

I found it. And used it. On myself.

[fierce walrus]

there were defo no fog reppelers, but i feel like there was atleast one disinfect in Alpha 1

[tardy ingot]

More likely someone exchanged it and forgot?

[dry pumice]

I opened the locker.

[tardy ingot]

Hm

[ashen frigate]

I do not think a 1-use can spawn if there is more than 1 in the pool ?

So maybe there is just a single use of disinfect pack in the main room :)

[meager shuttle]

Which main gun has 3 shot burst?

I forgot what gun I dropped to try other guns and I want to go back to it lol

[ashen frigate]

That would be the Burst Rifle (Carbine has a 4-shot burst if I remember correctly)

[meager shuttle]

Thank you so much!

[wind wren]

Is there a way to manipulate bots into taking diff packs then they currently hold?

There's a juicy 5use ammo pack and all 3 are holding 40% medpacks

[fierce walrus]

n o

[wind wren]

Fuck

[fierce walrus]

although

i think bots should prioritize ammo over meds

but i might be mistaken

[wind wren]

Well they're just chilling beside the locker bot not taking it

So unlucky me ig

[wind wren]

I feel like they don't cuz one just picked up a 40% med for a 80% ammo

[ocean spindle]

they prioritize whats available, i think if they see two bots with ammo packs, the last one is more prone to pickin a medi

[wind wren]

Well 3 have meds

[ocean spindle]

ok then i dont know

maybs its backwards

idk

:]

[wind wren]

I think they only case abt what the player has

Picked up a medi instead of my ammo and they swapped

Picked a tool refill they Picked meds

[dry pumice]

Some people claim they generally prioritise Medkits. In personal experience it's completely random. Sometimes I'll watch them swap med for ammo and then immediately swap it back.

[wind wren]

I also think it's mostly random. Mostly cuz it took em 4 swaps to pick a 100% med instead of a 40%

[true cave]

Did all of the lost levels last night get restored? Spent quite a while doing 6b1 with some friends and it said we didn't complete it

[dry pumice]

Go in and check. If counter didn't go up - then it didn't count.

Thankfully R6B1 is a relatively short and simple level.

[true cave]

I thought so too until I played with my mongheaded friends

[true cave]

Alright!

[ocean spindle]

mightve been gtfo was out for a bit yesterday

i see some people who completed a level but didnt got apparel and the completiom

[compact junco]

heard schaeffer talk to me at the end of Rundown 6! very cool, love that. But there was a lack of subtitles like there usually is in rundown 7? was that just a bug or is there intentionally no subtitles for that part?

[dry pumice]

Oversight

[compact junco]

dang

[true cave]

Yeah I did it and got no completion or items

[ocean spindle]

yeh mightve been that then, sorry

[random garnet]

At the moment me and my group only have a team of 3 and we really struggle on r1c1 and r1b2.

Honestly just looking for some tips, we probably won’t have a team of 4 unless we end up lfg’ing, anything you can reccomend?

For r1c1 we do fine for about 4-5 waves and then are totally overrun, hits build up and all, and it just seems like we can’t do it with 3 people.

For b2, it’s the resources. Is there something we’re missing or is the spawn rate just that abysmal? We get to zone 20 to get the HSU sample, go to open the door and either don’t have enough ammo, or tools, or even health. Feel free to @ me.

[dry pumice]

Add a bot as empty slots. Give him bio tracker. Bots are crazy with it. Game is balanced for 4 people always - bringing less is playing increased difficulty.

[random garnet]

Do the bots automatically take it out and mark targets if we are using turrets???

And, yeah we know but we handle stealth and other combat just fine, it’s just those two missions keep kicking us down lol

[dry pumice]

B2 is shooter party right? It's a perfectly average level. Resources are scripted 9 cases out of 10 - use terminals to scan for them.

[ocean spindle]

mhh for r1c1, it kinda depends a lot on ur tools, usually 3 sentries one bio in the bot its incredibly useful, and the sentries its preferable they are bursts; hold on the bridge, and when someone goes to input code, do it in the last 10 seconds, that way u can kill the last enemies of the wave and start goin to resources earlier

bots auto mark targets yes

they ping em as soon as they are awake

and better than human players

since they have no cooldown and 360 view

u cant see em asleep but its a tiny thing to give out

[dry pumice]

Bots' biotracker is buffed. They ping every 10 seconds in 360 degrees around them with a decent range too. Enemies will always be pinged.

[ocean spindle]

on r1b2 tho, if u feel a lack of resources, means either the alarms are kinda fuckin u up or ur wakin a lot of rooms, which one would u say it is?

they r fair struggles when one is new

[random garnet]

The main thing on b2 is really just is all the combat sections. We’re not perfect, but we are all pretty decent at gaming. I think it may just be weapon choices - I use I think it’s the 3 burst primary rifle and the choke mode shotgun for dealing with big guys.

[dry pumice]

For C1 there's not much to advice.
Try doing first code or two with either guns only or only 1 turret. Then deploy more turrets for end game codes and waves.

[wind wren]

Doesn't make sense to set up turrets behind the enemies on r1c1? As In on the chokepoint. I got 4 bursts and I'd imagine that if they were to hit from behind its be a lot easier right?

Sure a bit longer run to refill but should be worth

[ocean spindle]

not really, sentries dont do back damage

so its the same thing

[wind wren]

Oh

[dry pumice]

Yeah doesn't matter

[wind wren]

Well good to know

[ocean spindle]

plus they have time to aim while they run at u

[random garnet]

We also have been using the Meduza mad labs turret most of the time - it can do work but is it just not worth?

[dry pumice]

Oh god

[ocean spindle]

umm not really

the auto sentry is a stagger weapon

not a killin weapon

[dry pumice]

That thing is in the trash currently

[ocean spindle]

and the way reactor spawns the waves is they stack

[dry pumice]

0 ammo, no damage

Burst is king.

[ocean spindle]

so u wanna kill em as much as possible

u can takw 2 bursts one sniper sentry for bigs

[dry pumice]

Just bring 3 bursts and deploy them as things get hairy.

[ocean spindle]

and only use the sniper one at the last waves

[random garnet]

Ok final real question

Is there ever a reason for the shotgun turret

I want there to be

But I understand if there isn’t lol

[ocean spindle]

corners and choke points are very nice for it

[dry pumice]

Hard sell.

[ocean spindle]

not r1c1 or r1b2 tbh

[dry pumice]

I've seen it do good things.

But it's conditional.

[ocean spindle]

they are mostly corridors

[dry pumice]

Actually...

I used it either on C1 or in C1-like situation before.

You can use it as a close range body guard.

[ocean spindle]

i mean ive heard u can position em aimin at the hole in the wall but i think its kinda a waste

it servers way better in tights door spots n stuff

ur gonna like em in r1c2

[dry pumice]

Place it right in front of yourself and do some sniping. If any enemies breach and get too close - shotgun will greet them.

[random garnet]

Also is it just me or is there weapons that just seem completely redundant, like the Drekker rifle, or the arid shelling 5 vs mastaba r66 special?

[dry pumice]

Not really.

[random garnet]

Thanks for the advice! I’ll have to consider that

[dry pumice]

They're normal.

[ocean spindle]

all weapons have their time and useful-ness :3

some are similar in use

[dry pumice]

Revolver requires skill.

[ocean spindle]

but different in their stats

[dry pumice]

It kills smalls in a single headshot and got lots of ammo for it. 60 bullets total or something?

[ocean spindle]

usually in a group varied weapon choices can be nice, one person with a machinegun for swarms, maybe a couple of shotties yes for big boys [or one sniper burst cannon scattergun so they can be big boi killer] and just general like diversity helps a lot for different uses

[wind wren]

Can sentries kill steal each other? I'd assume no but worth asking. Got 4 lined up right next to each other so I'd rather ask

[ocean spindle]

[ive been tryin to write that but the chat moves so fast]

[ocean spindle]

no no they dont

sentries dont get damaged

at all

only run out of ammo

[dry pumice]

Kill steal, not damage

[wind wren]

No I mean kill steal

[ocean spindle]

oh

my dumbass qwq

[wind wren]

XD

[dry pumice]

They absolutely can

Spread them around

[ocean spindle]

yeah they can aim at the same target and waste a bit of ammo

[wind wren]

Would be weird if they didn't. Alr I'll set up diff. Thanks a lot

[ocean spindle]

its better to like do lines with em if u need more coverage, but i cant think of many situations u need 4 of em together at the same time

i mean r1c1 but with three ur golden

[random garnet]

Okie :3 thanks for the insight you guys.

Is there any weapons you’d recommend for a beginner? I know it’s not a game you go spraying Willy nilly, but when the hell came down early game I was using the Hel Shotgun in primary and the heavy rifle in the backup

[ocean spindle]

ummmm, hel shotties very nice to spam at swarms ksks

but for easy to use

[dry pumice]

Carbine. Bullpup. High Cal Pistol.

[ocean spindle]

maybs smg to like easy reloads and kills

combat shottie, it oneshots smalls with a headshot

high cal yes

very simple

[wind wren]

Doing r1c1 rn and felt like biotracker didn't do anything for me so now running 4

[ocean spindle]

ummm, maybs somethin like the pistol or the rifle if u want to practice headshots

to then move to dmr or so

[wind wren]

Cuz bots don't benefit from it right?

[ocean spindle]

bots no but u do

[random garnet]

Big thankies from mcpankies, gonna give it a try when we’re home tonight

[ocean spindle]

i always have a bio

to, notice where enemies are

and sniper and shotgun sentries benefit from the bio

[ocean spindle]

oki, much good luck, if u have any questions later u can ask em !

[wind wren]

My 10 fps ass really doesn't contribute much in gunfights lol, I'll glady take that disadvantage

[ocean spindle]

fair enough
i used to have 6 7 fps and then i just got tired of it
and started usin geforce now

[wind wren]

How so? Only got bursts rn so doesn't matter for me but still

[dry pumice]

They aim faster and use less ammo when shooting pinged enemies

Sniper sentry used to be an absolute monster

[ocean spindle]

it needed a slap down

but its still nice for long corridors with bio pings

very useful for some levels

[wind wren]

I see, use less ammo cuz they miss less I assume?

[dry pumice]

No, they literally use less ammo.

Free shots.

[wind wren]

interesting....

[ocean spindle]

yeh they
create bullets

somehow :]

magic

[wind wren]

I guess even in the complex there's something magical

[dry pumice]

At this point we are ready to give up bio synergy.

Part of the reason for burst supremacy is that it doesn't give a shit.

Place and forget, watch it tear biters apart in 2 bursts.

[ocean spindle]

i mean idk why would u give up bio at all in this game

[urban vale]

so burst is better than the hel sentry>

?

[ocean spindle]

yeh

auto sentry is a stagger sentry

[urban vale]

whys that

[ocean spindle]

not a dmg sentry

[dry pumice]

Sniper and shotgun brothers only work well with constant bio pings and even then not ideally.

[ocean spindle]

so it has uses but its very niche

[urban vale]

I see

[dry pumice]

No it doesn't

[urban vale]

so in like reactor waves

[ocean spindle]

bursts is usually better for defends most times

[dry pumice]

It's crap right now

[ocean spindle]

no no

[urban vale]

3 burst is better than a variety of sentries?

[ocean spindle]

not reactors ksmdkm

[dry pumice]

Too little ammo.

[ocean spindle]

sometimes, depends, sometimes a sniper can be useful

[dry pumice]

Literally doesn't matter.

[ocean spindle]

yeah but well positioned, the amount of hitmarkers u get is crazy

i took it on r6a1 for the funs

and i never seen so many ksdmksmd

[urban vale]

r6a1?

wha

for what

[ocean spindle]

for funs :3

i wanted to try it out

[dry pumice]

Effectively yes. Minimal maintanance and consideration. Just place it somewhere where it will find targets and it'll solve the rest.

[ocean spindle]

not that it was ideal

i just wanted to see it ksmdkm

[urban vale]

my team ran it in like 14 minutes, I don't remember any area that needed a sentry

[ocean spindle]

no not really

i just put it down on the alarms for fun

it was a fun loadout

[dry pumice]

Sniper needs solid 25+ meters of perfectly line of sight to shoot at anything at all.

[urban vale]

i see

[ocean spindle]

if the enemy is slow, 7

[dry pumice]

And shotgun is... It's okay. Used to be worse. Still not ideal.

[urban vale]

sooo

for reactor waves

like r1c1

[dry pumice]

Can clutch as close ambush I guess.

[ocean spindle]

can be useful

i always have one sniper sentry for c1

[urban vale]

what's the sentry loadout then

[ocean spindle]

depends on the level

for r1c2 i took shotgun sentries, for others i used sniper, but generally

first time goin in or u dont know what to pick

burst sentry

is very flexible

like not-me

:3

[urban vale]

is there an r1c2?

[dry pumice]

There is one thing sniper sentry does uniquely - it can destroy giants. Especially ranged ones.

[ocean spindle]

buds

my buds

i love chimkens

my beloved

[urban vale]

you know what was REALLY annoying during like r6d1 reactor? or whatever that level was
the sentries would pop the giant heads so I couldn't one tap them with my sniper

[ocean spindle]

lmao

[dry pumice]

Oh yeah, they can do that. Don't let them.

[ocean spindle]

yeah thats, a down thing with any sentry ksmdkm

i mean bursts takes more time to do i think

but how every sentry aims at the head well

pain :3

[tardy ingot]

aim quicker, shoot faster

seems like a meme advice, but other than having sentries closer to you theres not much else to do

[ocean spindle]

i cant my skill issue doesnt let me

:[

[urban vale]

real

[ocean spindle]

thats why i dont take sniper ever

[urban vale]

sniper is goated

occationally I miss all 3 shots and my team flames me

[ocean spindle]

ik qwq but i cant use it
im cursed...

[urban vale]

but for the most part, 1 for 1

room with 3 giants? no more

[tardy ingot]

Try a different strat if they do that

shoot 1 bullet for each teammate

now they cant flame you

[urban vale]

real

[tardy ingot]

cuz they dead

[ocean spindle]

so based

[urban vale]

that's what we do on the extract pad

just shoot each other

[ocean spindle]

i actually never shoot anyone unless its by accident idk why i feel bad for doin it

not even in my bot runs lmao

poor bishi i cant do that to em qwq

[urban vale]

do it to em

we especially do it to whoever tripped the STUPID SCOUT ROOM

[ocean spindle]

no

ill know it was my fault qwq

[cause bots dont wake up enemies mostly]

[urban vale]

nawwww

we were clearing a room with like 6 scouts

and my friend hits the scouts
and doesn't one tap it
with a spear

💀

[ocean spindle]

smh

the skill issue

=-=

[urban vale]

real

"I hit him in the head I swear, idk why it didn't oneshot him"

suuuuuuuuuuuuuuure

[ocean spindle]

yes yes the neck shoot begs to differ

[urban vale]

during the same run my friend insisted he'd solo stealth kill a melee giant
ok
immediately wakes up two nearby giants and gets mad at me when I shoot as soon as I see them light up red on the biotracker

great game

[ocean spindle]

10/10 goty

i now blocked that friend ahre

[urban vale]

HAHAHA

naw he's the best player on the team

solos a group of 5 sleepers in stealth in like 2 seconds

[ocean spindle]

damnnn

[urban vale]

yeah, real

[ocean spindle]

the skill not issue but issue

is the schrodingers issue

[tardy ingot]

Knife or other?

[ocean spindle]

with the mine deployer ahre

KSMDKM

sorry

[urban vale]

knife for sure LOL

[wind wren]

Are there guns that I should/shouldn't give bots? I'm bit stuck on r1c1 and don't know what to do. Bullpup/sniper worked best for me but idk if maybe the bots load out also matters. (Last try was bullpup/sniper, 2x sniper sentry burst&biotracker for the snipers, got overrun on round 5/8 only 1xburst and 1xsniper down, but im certain that 1 sniper wouldn't have been the gamechanger)

[craggy pier]

automatic weapons

and hope enemies dont get 4-6 meters near em

[wind wren]

Alr thanks

[turbid horizon]

Generally I recommend Burst Rifle/Veruta XII MG

[fierce walrus]

i run burst rifle and revolver on bots

also works well

[wind wren]

I'll try those thanks (or I'll just try playing w real ppl and hope I'm not too much of a liability with my 10fps lol)

[amber spindle]

Hel revolver and Machine gun is what I run on bots

[fierce walrus]

10 fps?

my game has a stable 20

Are you running it on a fridge

[amber spindle]

I hope ya'll are lying lmao

[fierce walrus]

stable 20 fps on all maps for the win

other than destination

fuck destination fps

shooting ||flyers|| with 13 fps aint fun

[wind wren]

No, my iPhone6

[fierce walrus]

i wonder if mine could run

also if other people host you should have better fps at the cost of possible ping

[wind wren]

No it's like a 9-10year old laptop. I discovered gtfo and just couldn't wait til I can get my PC

Game looked so fun (and it still somehow is at 10fps)

[wind wren]

Damn I forgot ping is a thing. Probably shouldn't be too bad tho (I'm high on hopeium)

[fierce walrus]

I play with america people, and im in europe and ping is decent

like the worse i ever got was i think australia host, where the enemies literally took a full second to die from my melee

[wind wren]

Lol

Do u by any chance know how that impacts sneaking? Like if u sneak up to one and it starts "pounding". Would u wake it up due to the delay?

[fierce walrus]

i dont think i had that happen often

although i did have a case of a scout not dying despite me hitting it in the head once

but i dont know if that was cause desync of if some other player alerted it right before i hit it

or funky hitboxes

[wind wren]

Skill issue (jk)

Asking cuz I once woke one up with a huge delay despite me being the host (assuming it wasn't a bot but I don't think they can wake up enemies?)

[ocean spindle]

delay in servers can cause enemies to wak up a lil sooner than u expect if u have a ton of hours playin with bots or solo, but it happens when ur client

[wind wren]

Mmmmm we all love hitboxes

[fierce walrus]

bots cant wake them up, could have been smth like long range aggro proccing or just a long animation

[wind wren]

I'm 100% it wasn't latter. Had my meele out all the time, no flashlight and stood still for a solid 2sec b4 it woke up

Wait maybe I'm dumb. I mightve just touched it

[dry pumice]

Always a possibility of various bugs.

[wind wren]

Somehow

[halcyon mango]

always blame desync

[ocean spindle]

mayb, enemies insta wake up with a pat

with a poke

[wind wren]

Yeah. I always loose to those (totally not just skill issue)

[wind wren]

They also do when I walk into them right?

[ocean spindle]

yes :3

[wind wren]

Yeah then that was probably it (the giant did "wave" his hand so that's probably what got me)

[halcyon mango]

if you play at 10 fps, very much could be you touched it, and it just took a while for it to register

[minor fractal]

Revo RoF is too high. I'd very much recommend PR instead.

[fierce walrus]

tbh

i never had bots fire more than 2 revo shots in quick succession

and pr feels like its reload would make it very annoying for bots

[soft crater]

me turns on auto clicker
blasts 6 holes into the giant

(That is. If you can control the recoil of revolver at max rof)

[craggy pier]

Sup bys

boys

how yall enjoying rundown 6?

my team was surprised at how easy r6a1 was

[dry pumice]

Yeah, that's normal. I enjoy it very much.

[soft crater]

[dry pumice]

Difficulty wise it is one of the more reasonable rundowns. Partially thanks to checkpoints.

But don't you worry. It will pick up in C2+ and D2+

[craggy pier]

r6ax was fun too with the outdoors flying guys

they should implement more outdoor maps

[dry pumice]

There are.

[craggy pier]

would be fun to run around in the dessert more

[dry pumice]

At least... One... Two... Three... Four?

[craggy pier]

yayt

that's what i like to hear

[ocean spindle]

seventeen?

:3

[dry pumice]

Should I spoil which one or

[ocean spindle]

um no

why would u

[dry pumice]

Nerd instinct

[craggy pier]

aha

[haughty island]

Which level is the most difficult in rundown alt 6

[lone mortar]

Depends

You could say D4 or D3

[haughty island]

D3PE?

[lone mortar]

Just out of your own taste

Yes

Comparing all of objectives

D4 stands into a more long sustaining difficulty

D3 tank sleeping punish you with a hard wipe

And less checkpoints than D4

[craggy pier]

d3pe is def harder than d4 if you do overload first

[lone mortar]

Depends

Like i said

[floral pendant]

games on sale and debating picking it up, how good is this discord for finding matches . I don't have a group of 4, probably a group of 2 at best for this.

[lone mortar]

Pretty good

[halcyon mango]

I have no friends and play everyday with pub people

[lone mortar]

Games unique ill put that on top

[haughty island]

Could you help me with some advice to r6D2 secondary. Like today we tried few times and always we died at the end. First time during uplink and second on the extraction because my teammate fuckuped chagerscouts.

[floral pendant]

it definitely looks unique, it's been out for a while so I imagine most of the bugs are ironed out too

[lone mortar]

Better load out i guess

[lone mortar]

[halcyon mango]

about that... there will be bugs, but overall it's still largely playable

[haughty island]

Like i have hel shotgun and hel rifle

[lone mortar]

Oof

[floral pendant]

visual stuff or crashes? I don't mind some visual issues.

[lone mortar]

Should just bring sawed off and hel rifle

[floral pendant]

I quit destiny 2 because the raids kept breaking for me lol

[lone mortar]

Worse

Kek

[haughty island]

Our team had scatter gun hel shotgin mashinegun and hel gun

[halcyon mango]

gameplay stuff, like a mechanic glitching and causes you to fail your entire run. it's not very common though

[lone mortar]

Scatter gun?

Lmao

[haughty island]

Yep XD

[lone mortar]

I mean

In the right habds

It makes the best plays

[haughty island]

Yep we killd mom like in 15 seconds

[lone mortar]

Not that needed

Just 2 machine guns and pump shot and helrifle

A perfect all heavy rounder

[haughty island]

Thanks for advice

[lone mortar]

But if youre stuck with big black scout

[odd mason]

Is sprint toggle something that should be enabled?

[lone mortar]

Then 2 spear charge at the same time is good

[ocean spindle]

if u want

[lone mortar]

Ewww

[floral pendant]

this is hilarious with no context

[lone mortar]

Why would you want that

[halcyon mango]

I have it enabled. feels annoying having to hold shift every time

[ocean spindle]

i personally dont use it

[odd mason]

Would I only have to tap the button instead of holding it?

[lone mortar]

[odd mason]

Plus it puts a strain on my pinkie since my keyboard is small

[ocean spindle]

u might wanna toggle crouch too

[odd mason]

Yea thats one is on

[lone mortar]

I pull my thumb back wards to hold shift for 5 hrs of gtfo

We are not the same

[haughty island]

The biggest problem is uplink because chargers coming from tree direction(3 open doors). Probably we gonna trying to not go to the air filtration before uplink.

[lone mortar]

You can however

[odd mason]

Is stand on jump any use?

[lone mortar]

Stand in the other rooms

To push to spawns

Too far

[halcyon mango]

no

[lone mortar]

And they will spawn in a better room

[haughty island]

Uhhhh

[lone mortar]

Or just perma foam lol

[odd mason]

Should I lower my camera shake effect?

[lone mortar]

Wdym

[ocean spindle]

if u, want

[lone mortar]

Like the hit shake from attacks?

[ocean spindle]

i have it full

[halcyon mango]

I haven't felt any difference with it, but I keep it at like 30%

[ocean spindle]

general shake effects

it affects em all

[lone mortar]

Ewww

[haughty island]

On uplink we dont have that much cfoam and mine

[halcyon mango]

getting licked still makes you do a summersault

[lone mortar]

There u go

Just walk into another room

And enemies spawn further

[wind wren]

How does level difficulty in general progress in the games? Is it just r1<r2<r3 etc? Or are later levels in rundowns generally the hardest?

[haughty island]

Damn ty

[halcyon mango]

A to E mainly. Difficulty does vary from rundown to rundown, but not exactly in increasing order

[wind wren]

I c thanks. I'll try some other rundowns then cuz I'm stuck

[lone mortar]

Not quite and yes

[odd mason]

Also any pointers for R1A1?

[lone mortar]

Have fun

[odd mason]

Guess I will

[halcyon mango]

use your tools. mining + c-foaming doors helps a lot with the alarm waves.

[dry pumice]

All of them, so give us specifics

Oh yeah, what SillySlime said

[lone mortar]

Nerd time

🤓

[dry pumice]

if you see a door with an alarm on it - USE YOUR GODDAMN TOOLS, always

You're not gun-forcing yourself through it, seen that before

[odd mason]

So is turret useful for R1A1?

[lone mortar]

Yes

But not too much ngl

[dry pumice]

Just always bring classic setup

[lone mortar]

Foam mine reign supreme

[dry pumice]

foam, miner, bio, sentryu

[odd mason]

Is any type of Turret useful then the rest?

[lone mortar]

Burst is an always

[halcyon mango]

burst is the generalist. sniper deals with bigs better. auto sentry and shotgun sentry have specific niches

[lone mortar]

Others are situations dependent

[wind wren]

Is hel sentry ever useful?

[lone mortar]

A few

[halcyon mango]

mainly for stalling

won't be killing anything soon

[wind wren]

But why stall when could kill

[lone mortar]

R4A2-3/B2 bulkhead defense

Best place for hel auto

[wind wren]

Ah I c (I have no clue what that lvl is)

[lone mortar]

But trust me

[halcyon mango]

keeping enemies from attacking is a big boon for certain waves

[wind wren]

I fully trust you

[lone mortar]

Just go burst and sniper

[dry pumice]

HEL is crap right now

[haughty island]

Is r7e1 the easiest and most boring e tier like baby sitting with immortal?

[lone mortar]

Now now

[soft kiln]

even its for stalling , its not doing a very good job
because it aims for head

[lone mortar]

We dont shit on stuff

[dry pumice]

It was crap before. They gave it +1 penetration, but overnerfed the ammo instead.

[lone mortar]

Which all bots and sentries does

[dry pumice]

Before it didn't do anything and run out of ammo a little bit too quick.

Now it deals something, but runs out even quicker

Fair and balanced

[hidden ridge]

perhaps r2e1 is easier

[wind wren]

Is that a bad thing?

[hidden ridge]

at the point of mechanics to understand

[lone mortar]

Hear me

[halcyon mango]

misses more

[lone mortar]

The best stagger is a kill

[wind wren]

Oh

[wind wren]

Man spitting fax

[dry pumice]

HEL sentry will never be worth it until it has like 1000 bullets

[lone mortar]

They cant move if u kill em

[wind wren]

Can't attack if they ded

[soft kiln]

HEL is a mechanic that allows weapon to penetrate
but because it always aim for head
the penetration mostly misses

[lone mortar]

And like 2 dmg flat

[dry pumice]

oh, even better

[haughty island]

Okay like our team has done r1 r3 r7 and now weo doing r6. And in my opinion r7e1 is not that hard

[hidden ridge]

you're gonna be fine for r2e1

[lone mortar]

Easy to manage

[lone mortar]

Hey beepo

[hidden ridge]

ehi kaiser

[lone mortar]

Just did R6CX and D4

Pretty tough but we used no checkpoints

So id say gamering

[hidden ridge]

gratz

[haughty island]

R6CX is also pretty easy

[lone mortar]

Until you do the uplinks

[haughty island]

Ye

S

[lone mortar]

And get gang up by 20 flyers

[haughty island]

XD

[hidden ridge]

mid terminal

with fliers phasing through walls

[lone mortar]

Fr fr

Should always race up the top terminal

And do em down wards

[hidden ridge]

OG I did top to bottom

[soft kiln]

mostly goes mid > top > bottom

[hidden ridge]

and it was easier

[lone mortar]

Ehhh

[hidden ridge]

this I did bottom to top

[lone mortar]

I like to have a but more enjoyable

[hidden ridge]

and it was hellish for mid

[lone mortar]

Ye

You get more resources on top

[hidden ridge]

To be fair I think what Touhou enjoyer said is probably the best way

because fliers still get stuck at bottom for some reason

[haughty island]

D1 is touhou levle

[soft kiln]

top to middle has a problem where big flyers may spawn mid uplink with clipping projectiles

[hidden ridge]

I'd have moved the middle terminal somewhere else tbh

it's just a shit place

if you close the walls correctly

fliers probably wouldn't even get in

if you leave it like it is it's an hazard for the wrong reasons

fliers were a mistake

we need to go back

[hasty sparrow]

One question, me and my friends did one mission when there was some problems with the server yesterday, and the mission didn't complete, we'll need to do it again? It took 1:30h T^T

[neon gust]

Yes

Wich mission?

[hasty sparrow]

R2D2

[odd mason]

even if you yourself hasn't done the rundown can you still join someone whos already done that rundown?

[ocean spindle]

yep

!

[odd mason]

First rundown ended in failure though got to zone 52 with me and bots and for a first playthrough I said I did well

The Rundown was R1A1

[halcyon mango]

gj

over time, you'll learn more on how to stealth clear and take better advantage of the tools at your disposal

and r1a1 becomes a walk in the park

[soft crater]

It makes me cringe a little inside hearing people call each expedition a "rundown"

[tardy ingot]

I cleared rundown r1a1

Rundown rundown 1 a 1

[floral acorn]

what about r5? have you cleared all the optional rundowns of every rundown?

[tardy ingot]

I only cleared the optional rundown of the rundown in rundown 5 r5b1

[urban vale]

you are one of those people

[soft crater]

[vague bridge]

when does the gtfo romcom release

[worthy stratus]

Want some chai tea?

[lunar rain]

I just grabbed a tool refill through a locked locker?

[past mesa]

Did you checkpoint

[lunar rain]

does r6 ax have a checkpoint?

[past mesa]

Yes

[rancid smelt]

i just realised GTFO use Unity, whats the plan forward knowing that unity plan to apply "install tax"

[ocean spindle]

that unity backs off

and it already did kinda

[verbal zinc]

the plan is that gtfo will only grow from here

[heady moat]

release R8 before 2024 so the inevitable spike in installs from the final update happens before the taxation begins, thereby mostly sidestepping the problem :^)

[cold quarry]

unity will cave before that anyways

[whole grove]

Arbalist hit harder than veruta?

[ocean spindle]

yeah it has more dmg

less recoil

but veruta is faster staggers but has a bit more recoil

[whole grove]

BBC hit harder than dad?

[sturdy glen]

ye

[ocean spindle]

yes

those hit as normal bigs