gtfo-related-questions

[hardy grotto]

I recommend the techman arbalist

[tardy ingot]

high cal rly wasnt good for hybrids

[soft crater]

Mistakes were made. 0% accuracy on enemy.
100% accuracy on hitting teammates

[tardy ingot]

normal shotgun for example was better and its not awesome at it

[hardy grotto]

pump shotgun mandatory

[dry pumice]

If you are prejudiced against hybrids - just bring sniper and aim for the berry.

[jaunty latch]

normal shotgun cant stagger them from across the room

[tardy ingot]

Neither can high cal unless you shoot twice

[dry pumice]

It's a thankless, but important job.

[craggy pier]

i am racist against all sleepers

[tardy ingot]

and even those 2 shots become 3 quickly

[soft crater]

Like someone once before. Like the Black zombies right?

[dry pumice]

Also burst Cannon still there... I guess...

[soft crater]

[hardy grotto]

high cal is fine for hybrids imo

because

[tardy ingot]

its fine

but not good

[hardy grotto]

i dont bring guns for a single enemy

[jaunty latch]

I just needed it staggered while I was bum rushing closer

and it worked

[soft crater]

High cal can deal damage but it isn't the recommended weapon if you're trying to specifically deal with them.

[tardy ingot]

„It worked“ isnt rly the argument you think it is

[craggy pier]

why, is it not aight?

i thought that was its job

[dry pumice]

ehhhhhhh

[tardy ingot]

Recoil sucks ass

[craggy pier]

oh

[dry pumice]

Recoil is cringe

[soft crater]

looks at dead teammates with 5 bullet holes in each body

[dry pumice]

And it's only uh...

95 damage?

[soft crater]

Idk ... uhhh

[tardy ingot]

Take hel rifle, same dmg but you dont need to rush close. You also pen on reactor

or simply have 1 sniper

[dry pumice]

Out of 150 HP

[tardy ingot]

which deletts all giants and hybrids

[jaunty latch]

hel rifle sucks for bum rushing

[craggy pier]

that seems good

2 bursts

can miss 1 or two shots

[tardy ingot]

yea but you dont need to bum rush since you have actual range

[soft crater]

Unironically false

[jaunty latch]

the way I was doing the level I had to

[tardy ingot]

Its pretty meh with 2 bursts per kill. Especially since sniper exists

[jaunty latch]

since I was immediatly waking every room I went into

[tardy ingot]

Huh?

[tardy ingot]

Theres no sleeping hybrids tho

[craggy pier]

isn't it more applicable towards non giants

or.. something

[tardy ingot]

bosses/snatcher, yes
Smalls, no

[jaunty latch]

yeah the gun had to both kill hybrids and work while bum rushing smalls and gaints

without them being in a line

[dry pumice]

Not anymore.

[jaunty latch]

which it did

[ashen frigate]

Where did the sleeping Hybrids go ?

[tardy ingot]

Sleeping hybrids were never in r2d2

[ashen frigate]

I meant in R2E1 and other expeditions I cannot remember

[tardy ingot]

whyd you sprint into rooms when aggroing them

Pull and line ups

[jaunty latch]

to get to the next room faster

[tardy ingot]

what

Why

so much time

[jaunty latch]

yes and I used that time to bum rush terminals then loot everything

[dry pumice]

Veterans be like: "what do you mean you don't frame perfect code acquisition?"

[cobalt steppe]

i think you're a veteran

[tardy ingot]

i dont expect anyone to 2 cycle r4e1 codes

But R2D2 is very comfortable

[dry pumice]

Point still stands. Don't pull if it can avoided. Otherwise you might die by lack of ammo.

[tardy ingot]

Artek forgets 90% of everything

he also forgets he a vet

at this point

[craggy pier]

artek is cool tho

[neon gust]

Artek a de vet

[sturdy glen]

Most sensible artek vet take

[neon gust]

Never seen him been toxic

[jaunty latch]

ironically I was running out of ammo because the group I was playing with kept trying to stealth to the terminals on r2d2

[craggy pier]

that makes no sense

[tardy ingot]

Prob not looting then due to time

is what they meant

[dry pumice]

It works both ways really. And yeah, R2D2 is out there difficulty wise. Seen a couple of lfgs completely fall apart on latter codes.

[jaunty latch]

it takes forever for new people which then leaves no time to take forever to get to each box with supplies

[sturdy glen]

You know what gun is good for bumrushing?

[hardy grotto]

shut up

[sturdy glen]

Sledgehammer

[craggy pier]

you misspelled knife there

might wanna check your spellchecker

[dry pumice]

I have no idea how I got my clear when I did. I just kept shooting and enemies kept dying.

[jaunty latch]

I mean if you have multiple people coordinating yeah but we had 3 newish people

[sturdy glen]

Sorry, my mobile autocorrect is set to based mode

[jaunty latch]

and the 3rd ragequit so hard he refused to touch the game again and uninstalled

[craggy pier]

this was my 2nd r2d2 fail

[dry pumice]

Understandable honestly.

[craggy pier]

long range aggro on its way to absolutely demolish any hopes of quick stealth

[lusty bramble]

CHILL DUDE waht is your opinion on Hel Shotgun.

[sturdy glen]

I'm like

The main person using it

[waxen jetty]

beep

[hardy grotto]

Rick

[waxen jetty]

do u know if the hel auto sentry can autopop

[olive robin]

Why do people use scattergun? It has such little ammo and sure it kills bigs, but you have to be in slapping range and a sniper just does it from across the room...

[lusty bramble]

AOE

[hardy grotto]

owns moms

[sturdy glen]

Cuz funny

[jaunty latch]

funny like sawoff

also it deletes bosses with less coordination then normal shotguns

[olive robin]

True I forgor

[dry pumice]

It destroys bosses. Also great for giant killing. It's like a backwards sniper.

And you have the utility of taking a shot at a wave every once in a while.

[olive robin]

My only complaint ig for it is it has such little ammo

12 shots only

[dry pumice]

So does sniper.

Same gun from different mother.

[craggy pier]

HEL shotguns actually fires directional grenades

they explode right outside the barrel

[jaunty latch]

eh as long as your not using it on smalls its not that big of an issue

just you will blow through all your main ammo if your teammates arnt killing them

[dry pumice]

I find it hilarious you say that

Because the steam update page shows a guy annihilating a sleeping biter with it

Just one guy. Standing in the corner.

[olive robin]

He's simply skilled

[tardy ingot]

scattergun can also kill multiple smalls at once

it isnt reliable

[lusty bramble]

hosts can get it pretty consistenly

[jaunty latch]

even then the results are ehhh

but it at least helps if you need to balance ammo for restocking main

[dry pumice]

It's in the same family as sniper and burst Cannon. You use it on giants and bosses only if you can help it.

[tardy ingot]

killing 2-3 guys with 1 bullet makes it pretty efficient

[craggy pier]

what does this even mean

[lusty bramble]

there's differences between hosts and clients

and how you can benefit from a weapon changes because

[jaunty latch]

go attempt to use it with 200 ping to understand

[hardy grotto]

u dont even need 200 ping

[halcyon mango]

kill sleeper, consecutive shots hit sleeper behind it instead of shooting the dead body before it

[olive robin]

Isn't it about how hosts won't hit already dead enemies as much

[jaunty latch]

true but it sounds funnier

[hardy grotto]

play client and use scattergun on a mom

bye bye

[lusty bramble]

the burst cannon can kill 5 smalls in one burst

that's pretty efficient

[craggy pier]

what happens

[olive robin]

Good luck with landing that?

[lusty bramble]

i'm crazy cracked

[craggy pier]

why does this game crap itself so hard when you're not hosting

[jaunty latch]

p2p

[lusty bramble]

10 chambers collective

[dry pumice]

Netcode hard.

[arctic marten]

he is better bot

[olive robin]

You'd have to hit 5 enemies in the head with one burst

[neon gust]

Bots are EA players in disguise

[olive robin]

It only does 19 damage a shot and strikers have 20 hp

[neon gust]

They can bust cancel

[dry pumice]

They know, they're memeing.

[olive robin]

Bots can still cancel.....?

[dry pumice]

Always could.

[neon gust]

My man actually took beep seriously

[olive robin]

Greatest mistake of my life

[hardy grotto]

only sometimes u can take him seriously

[lusty bramble]

wtf

[hardy grotto]

its up to u to decide when

[neon gust]

^

[craggy pier]

bust cancel

what tech is this

[neon gust]

They busting a move

[olive robin]

You use c foam and-

[waxen jetty]

guys

sex is SO funny

[craggy pier]

ikr

[hardy grotto]

thanks rick

[craggy pier]

that's what i've been saying

[lusty bramble]

@tardy ingot what's your opinion on high cal

seems you're pretty against it

[tardy ingot]

hm?

[lusty bramble]

is that all

[olive robin]

I Love High Cal Except For When It Uses All My Ammo On A Giant

[hardy grotto]

back damage multiplier

[jaunty latch]

they will burst cancel it directly into your back

[arctic marten]

bro just saw john pork

[craggy pier]

Why Are You Typing Like This

It Causes Me Physical Discomfort

[tardy ingot]

high cal is completely fine against giants

[dry pumice]

YouTube title formatting

[tardy ingot]

theres not rly anything thats more efficient that isnt straight up just focused on giants

[lusty bramble]

that's not my question

[tardy ingot]

i dont know what context your question has

[hardy grotto]

u have been arguing against high cal quite a lot today

do u think ppl are just over exaggerating how good it is or

[jaunty latch]

they violently hate the hi cal

[tardy ingot]

that was old high cal vs hybrids

lol

[hardy grotto]

werent u arguing abt it in reference to hel rifle and choke earlier or smth

[olive robin]

hear me out. high cal is #1 because
30.1 damage
31 max ammo
the numbers are almost the same

[past mesa]

High call s teir fun

[tardy ingot]

that was also with old high cal as reference vs hybrids on r2d2

i did compare it tho ye

vs new

i think high cal is the middle point between them. I dont like the change as current high cal is less distinct imo

[olive robin]

high cal is good for charger filled missions

u can just body shot them all

[tardy ingot]

i dunno anyone who would unironically put it 1# (inbefore funny people commenting)

[sturdy glen]

Give up on distinct

[jaunty latch]

eh at that point just bring one of the hel guns since those delete waves of them

[sturdy glen]

Make the fun weapons good

[tardy ingot]

yes
but so is hel rifle but pen

[sturdy glen]

👍

[compact junco]

loving this new update so far but idk bout the weapon changes. smg has 50 rounds so isnt the machine pistol kind of phased out now? and cause the ammo i feel like assault rifle also less useful. and also the percision rifle is basically a better DMR no?

[jaunty latch]

unless your specifically trying to deal with gaint chargers then probably

[tardy ingot]

why would you compare dmr and precision rifle

[olive robin]

yea however one is a giant handgun which is funny

[compact junco]

kind of same weapon no?

[tardy ingot]

1 is a main

[compact junco]

just one does more damage is automatic and dif slot

[tardy ingot]

1 is a special

[jaunty latch]

the machine pistol has more ammo still

[sturdy glen]

High cal is good cuz I don't kill jish going for the same hel rifle lines

[compact junco]

does anybody actually use it?

[olive robin]

the hel auto pistol has most ammo

[tardy ingot]

different slots matter
otherwise you could just say "the revolver is just a better x semi auto and HAR is just a better x auto"

[ocean spindle]

i mean tbf both r for smals both deal no dmg to bigs both have same mag size [i think]
just one is more, flexible than the other lmao

[jaunty latch]

the guy I brought up before who ragequit the game did

and I kept telling him it was why he kept dying

[tardy ingot]

PR now actually is ok against giants again

1 mags them comfortably

[compact junco]

arent all the weapons meant to be useable? i feel like some just arent

[olive robin]

machine pistol isnt bad

[compact junco]

cause there are better options

[ocean spindle]

oh i didnt know :3

nevermind

[olive robin]

it just doesnt do a lot of damage or have a lot of range

[tardy ingot]

eh it is

[ocean spindle]

all weapons are usable

[olive robin]

what makes it bad besides its range or damage

[past mesa]

One is competing with main weapons

One is competing with special weapons

What ???

[jaunty latch]

its damage output is just kinda pathetic to compensate for it being more ammo efficent

[tardy ingot]

range, spread, firerate when trying to control ammo
dmg is

its not as bad as smg/bullpup or heavy smg were

[compact junco]

machine pistol and smg have same mag size, one is better damage, range, recoil,\

[tardy ingot]

but imo it might be the weakest main rn

[compact junco]

this

[jaunty latch]

like it works but you will suffer during large waves

[hardy grotto]

high cal is the BEST IN SLOT this patch!!!

[olive robin]

u put auto pistol above it?

[tardy ingot]

hel pp imo is niche

it at least has smth going for it if you wanna play into that

[compact junco]

i gotta say ive played most missions with smg and never run out of ammo, might just be me but machine pistol useless

[past mesa]

It might be

[jaunty latch]

hel pp is just a handheld autosentry

[sturdy glen]

301 damage per refill

[jaunty latch]

so it works in the same few places that does

[sturdy glen]

Goes hard

[past mesa]

This isn’t

Convincing

[compact junco]

also assault rifle only got 30 rounds, smg got 50, assault rifle ammo capacity less, and its range and damage is only slightly better?

both are useable but i just dont see reasaon for the weapon changes

[olive robin]

when will we get a new tier list that everybody can disagree on?

i havent seen a recent one

[jaunty latch]

I didnt say it was good just if you want someone to exist to only stagger gaint chargers its there

[past mesa]

But

But

It just

Like okay

[tardy ingot]

smg was super weak?

[past mesa]

You stagger them now what

[jaunty latch]

teammate shoots them

[compact junco]

so was other weapons?

[past mesa]

Why

Don’t you

[sturdy glen]

Hel s-

[past mesa]

Just shoot them

[tardy ingot]

yea like bullpup and heavy smg

which both also got buffed

[compact junco]

bullpup damage got buffed but it says it lengthened the reload more right?

[jaunty latch]

thats what a normal group would do but for rooms where its packed with like 10 of them then you might want something holding them back

but thats absurdly rare

[compact junco]

btw my heavy smg reaload been broken since rundown 5 release lol

[tardy ingot]

shortened

[compact junco]

sometimes it dont even put a new mag in

[compact junco]

would you recommend assault rifle or bullpup rifle?

[past mesa]

Okay you might be confused by this concept . Regular dmg staggers them

[vivid kayak]

HEL Shotgun my beloved that can do the same thing and mag dump a giant to death

[tardy ingot]

neither, but bullpup is better rn imo

[neon gust]

They added my reload suggestion!!!

sadly thats not abuf thi

[compact junco]

just looking at the stats i feel like assault rifle is in a weird place and phased out

[neon gust]

its just matches the animation

[compact junco]

what do you like to use?

[sterile citrus]

Bullpup? That's an odd way to spell Hel Revolver and Carbine.

[compact junco]

ig depends on mission, but favorite weapons?

[jaunty latch]

Ive never taken it to be clear just a friend did once as a joke and it works as a support weapon enough to be noticable

[past mesa]

Hel pp is maybe the worst weapon in slot

95% of the time

[lusty bramble]

have you tried autopopping with it

[tardy ingot]

carbine, hel revo, hel shotty, dmr

combat shotty, shotty, sniper

[jaunty latch]

probably but I think certain speedrunner groups would have a guy on it before

[past mesa]

???????

Who

[sterile citrus]

@compact junco Hel Revo, Carbine, Hel Shot, DMR . Scattergun, Hel Rifle, Sniper. for me

[compact junco]

cool choices, but the HEL revolver, it penetrates right? but it also doesnt 1 shot head to front?

[past mesa]

Pls link so I can make fun of them

[vivid kayak]

HEL Shotgun + MG Veruta (Swap veruta for HI-Cal or some other burst if lots of bosses)

[jaunty latch]

idk I saw an old r4e1 speedrun using it

[compact junco]

damn all the good players using similar loadouts lol

[jaunty latch]

og not current

[compact junco]

not saying HEL revolver is bad maybe i just cant use it

[hardy grotto]

og r4e1 speedrun using auto pistol?

what?

[tardy ingot]

if you go for killing ye

otherwise its probably bottom 3 at this point

[jaunty latch]

1 guy was using it not all 4

[neon gust]

i think it was kenny and sutff

[hardy grotto]

i was thinking joe

[past mesa]

You use hel pp

[compact junco]

its cool to see how other people roll

[hardy grotto]

LOL

[hardy grotto]

i use the autopops so its different

[lusty bramble]

i agree with jamesinator.45, it brings a smile to my face when i see black dragon with the precision rifle bullpup

[neon gust]

cuz you can actually see i can aim

unlike you

[past mesa]

Your right

[neon gust]

im winning

you stay loosing!!!

[lusty bramble]

it's true

[jaunty latch]

the current bullpup still displeases me but its just because weapons with no recoil confuse me for some reason

[hardy grotto]

almost woke up respawn zone in r6d3

[neon gust]

thats why hacket keep burst canceling you

[sterile citrus]

@compact junco If you wanna 1 shot shooters/Strikers. Put any +% main dmg booster on the DMR. That will 1 head shot them.

[compact junco]

funny how assault rifle got the drum mag but the bullpup has more ammo with the stick mag

[lusty bramble]

It's true! ☝️ 🤓

[lusty bramble]

It's true! ☝️ 🤓

[neon gust]

look

i was speaking in spanish

[hardy grotto]

yes

[neon gust]

its ok that he got distracted

my spanish voice its too sexy

[hardy grotto]

ay idk abt that

[jaunty latch]

doesnt it fire pistol rounds for some reason

[compact junco]

yes it do

[lusty bramble]

fortnite?

[compact junco]

which is why i thot damage was lower

[hardy grotto]

cranking 90s in the complex

[compact junco]

but raised damage to rifle standart

[lusty bramble]

can anyone drop me some explosive ammo

[hardy grotto]

gimme that golden scar

[lusty bramble]

i will revive you and we will portafort

[jaunty latch]

actually I think the original bullpup concept had the same drum mag

[neon gust]

Imagine applying gun logic to this game

where we have a shotgun with 2 bullets in mag

[sterile citrus]

True we have the scatter gun now

[compact junco]

i love how they can make the magazine size ANYTHING they want, like 30 rounds for a drum mag, 50 in a stick, yadda yadda, yet they go out the way to make a goofy ahh lookin TRIPLE BARREL shotgun, instead of a double barrel with 3 rounds its just funny

[neon gust]

🤓

[past mesa]

I love the auto sentry nerf

[compact junco]

triple barrel goofy af

[jaunty latch]

wasnt it suppose to have 3

[sterile citrus]

I used to be scared on tanks with bots. Now with this scatter gun

[compact junco]

was it not useful enough with 2?

i mean thats understandable with the amount of enemies we be fightin

[jaunty latch]

I think they thought it was too good with 3 then downgraded it

[hardy grotto]

I used to be scared of smalls with burst cannon. Now with the combat shotgun

[past mesa]

It is getting buffed in r8

[compact junco]

so it had 3, so 3 barrels, then downgraded it to 2? so a 3 barrel shotgun firing 2 shells

thats

[lone mortar]

[compact junco]

so much funnier

than a triple barrel

[jaunty latch]

no the scattergun not the sawoff

[sturdy glen]

They should've given high cal more damage per refill than burst cannon

[compact junco]

ohhhh

my bad

[sterile citrus]

Wait did the scattergun actually have 3 ammo per clip before?

[compact junco]

mAg

[sterile citrus]

I never got to play the old R6

[jaunty latch]

the name and mag imply it, it was never 3 in a public release

[tardy ingot]

ah wait thats nearly funny
youll get it soon

[sterile citrus]

Ah okay. 3 bullets would make that thing god damn silly

[compact junco]

i love using the pistol, and with recent buff is good again no?

[tardy ingot]

pistol is pretty nice now ye

[compact junco]

its not the faze clan standard ig but its fun

[sterile citrus]

Uhhh. I fucked around with main dmg boosters and it seemed decent now.

[hardy grotto]

its a good thing i dont look to u for humour advice eva

[sturdy glen]

It pretty much just got range

[compact junco]

choke mod shotgun is the eqvuilalent of the NOVA from CSGO. A sniper in a shotgun package.

[tardy ingot]

i dont know whether to be sad or just sigh at that you dont even get my points beth

[waxen jetty]

Gerz changed after the counter stream

[hardy grotto]

what was i supposed to get from that ?

[sterile citrus]

Choke Mod is fun gun.

[neon gust]

I think y'all wrong

[lusty bramble]

beep
ive been working on chemistry protocols after being in the lab for 7 hours and am to exhausted to deal with your trolling bs
You should know i dont say this often

But shut the fuck up

[compact junco]

also isnt it funny to think that since we are prisoners and expendable that despite our weapons looking cool and futuristic, that since we are expendable so are the weapons? meaning we get the Kel tec and hi-point of the GTFO universe...

[past mesa]

No one in this chat is funny

[compact junco]

so I wonder what the Wilson Combats of the future look like lol

[hardy grotto]

its true

[waxen jetty]

Life went uphill

[tardy ingot]

iirc we arent expendable (we arent actual prisoners)

[jaunty latch]

now is the ideal loadout is saw-off, scattergun, shotgun sentry, bat

[hardy grotto]

iirc we are expendable (we are actual prisoners)

[sterile citrus]

@jaunty latch LOL

[compact junco]

the ultimate home defense class

you the kinda guy to just hang a painting you got from walmart over the holes in the walls created by our Lord and Savior mighty 12 gauge

[neon gust]

beep i work a full time job and i dont get paid to deal with you bullshit

shut the hell up

[sterile citrus]

Wait your full time job isnt dealing with Beep?

[lusty bramble]

don't owrry black dragon

i know you don't say that often

i forgive you

[jaunty latch]

correct

[neon gust]

my lawyers will get in contact with you

[lone mortar]

TAKE IT TO COURT

[jaunty latch]

respond to the court document with a photo of you downvoting his steam guide

[craggy pier]

Anyone know whats the delay between error waves in r6d3 main path

[lone mortar]

which one

[craggy pier]

the shadow one

[lone mortar]

10s

enough for 3 ppl to kill shadows

[compact junco]

i was so excited for rundown 6 and i was not disappointed. the mission where we use the wave matter projecter was so cool! (I didnt get to play the original rundown 6 so this was new to me)

[craggy pier]

ty love

[compact junco]

I hope we get more missions like that

[hidden ridge]

Basketball court

[sterile citrus]

@craggy pier Bringing the Scattergun to R6D1 was a fucking TERRIBLE IDEA! Do you know how long that fucker took to kill with just a burst rifle and bots!

[lone mortar]

🏀

[hidden ridge]

DARK_LIZARD versus Bee, the P

[jaunty latch]

im surprised how little they used it in r7

[lone mortar]

@neon gust

he bout to snap this mofo's ankles

let us see those dribles my G

[neon gust]

STOP PINGING ME

[craggy pier]

the tank?

[neon gust]

HOLY SHITY

[hidden ridge]

Space Jam music starts playing

[sturdy glen]

How have you not blocked yet

[sterile citrus]

@craggy pier The Boss lol. I melted that tank with the Scattergun

[craggy pier]

not soo smart thats for sure

[hidden ridge]

Blocking Warp Gate Enjoyer is negative chill

[craggy pier]

sniper is the best u can get

[hardy grotto]

if people block warp gate enjoyer i would not even blame them

[craggy pier]

for reactor and boss

10 shots each tumor

[sterile citrus]

Or 600 burst rifle shots 🙂

Like my dumbass sitting there with a fuckin scattergun like damn this things useful

[craggy pier]

i salute your dedication

[sterile citrus]

Well we know now. I never got to do original R6 so I had no clue what that mission even was lol

[lone mortar]

youre gonna have to break me ankles to stop me from pinging

[jaunty latch]

you type with your feet?

[lone mortar]

no

i stand gaming

if i try to sit

i die irl

[olive robin]

is there a landmine on your chair

[craggy pier]

whats the delay for overload error alarm

[lone mortar]

no

[halcyon mango]

standing desk?

[past mesa]

People who block enjoyer are weak

They can’t handle the heat(instability) of an online “questionable” “gamer”

[neon gust]

I only block unless your deliberatly just wasting my time and have clearly bad intentions

you have to be one of the biggest pieces of sh for me to do that

[past mesa]

Can’t wait till I get blocked

[lone mortar]

i got blocked

so sad

[regal compass]

Which rundown is easiest? And which has least gas stuff?

[craggy pier]

R1

[regal compass]

I finished that one, which one after? xD

[neon gust]

you didnt

but stop pinging me

shit annoying

[craggy pier]

r2

[lone mortar]

oh

how nice of u

no mo pings

[neon gust]

rundown 2

[craggy pier]

magnanimous_dragon

[regal compass]

I remember 3 or 6 having a lot of gas, i really didnt like that, takes the fun away for me a bit

[craggy pier]

you mean infectious fog?

then all of em have it except R1

[past mesa]

I don’t like gas either

To smelly

[regal compass]

infectious fog yeah, i remembner some rundowns have it more than others iirc

[regal compass]

Silent but deadly

[lone mortar]

sus

[icy cave]

they all have except R1

[dry pumice]

Machine Pistol (UZI): Any issues?

I'm thinking about it and i can't quite put my finger on it.

[cold quarry]

the hel one?

the issue is that it's stinky

[dry pumice]

It doesn't feel, like... Horrible. But its also just kinda there. I can't find anything to praise it on.

The UZI / MAC-10 one.

The one that deals damage.

[mossy aurora]

machine pp

[cold quarry]

oh the machine pistol is nice

def needs a proper special pairing though

[dry pumice]

Is it? You sure?

[earnest pulsar]

hel pistol is low damage, but the stagger is very nice

[dry pumice]

Yeah, that's fine.

[earnest pulsar]

especially for just normal strikers during waves because of the pierce

[tardy ingot]

R1 0/6
R2 6/10
R3 4/7
R4 5/12
R5 7/13
R6 7/13
R7 3/10

For infectous fog iirc

[tardy ingot]

I wish it had the mag size of hel pp to differentiate it from smg (also more funny spray n pray)

[cold quarry]

that would be nice

or a little more damage to really make the super-close-quarters melter aspect hit home

[dry pumice]

It does have healthy 100+ more bullets than SMG does.

So the selling point seems to be literally just longevity.

Its like The Pistol, just in full auto form.

[dry pumice]

Do we have any objective criticism of Heavy Assault Rifle?

Or is it fine like it is?

[heady moat]

perfectly mildly-annoying bullet cost/ammo capacity (30/149)

[tardy ingot]

Recoil is still annoying compared to its R6 version (which wouldnt even be particularly strong anyhow)

[dry pumice]

Aside from that?

[tardy ingot]

otherwise just number tweaks if you wanna push it to where machine guns are

but those are rather on the „too strong“

side of things

so its fine

[vivid kayak]

Any time I use HAR I feel like I run dry infinitely faster than the MGs

[dry pumice]

Let me see...

[tardy ingot]

it does get far less dmg/mag and a noticeably smaller amount per refill

[vivid kayak]

You really have to tap fire it into crowds at times or you miss every other bullet

[dry pumice]

5.0 damage x 149 bullets
vs
5.3 damage x 169 bullets

[tardy ingot]

Its still comparable to arbalist

[dry pumice]

that's an oof from me

[tardy ingot]

its again just the recoil

[sturdy glen]

arbalistis extra damage rarely matters

but it does have more ammo anyways

I think its just meant to be that har has less cuz no charge up

but it ends up not really mattering

[tardy ingot]

it would be more fair if HAR didnt have worse recoil

[sturdy glen]

ye

instead of charge up compensation

you have random shots

[dry pumice]

what if:

6.0 damage

Make reaaaally heavy

maybe with a slight nerf to fire rate or something

[tardy ingot]

nonsensical change honestly

Outside of slightly less bullets vs giants and 1 less vs chargers

[dry pumice]

So... Just throw it like an extra mag and we're done?

[tardy ingot]

gotta think of strikers here

[dry pumice]

from 4 bullets to... 4 bullets.

[tardy ingot]

Reduce recoil to R6 lvl

more fun and better gun

[vivid kayak]

Just reduce its recoil

[tardy ingot]

same as burst cannon

[sturdy glen]

6 damage gives 1 + 1 so thats not happening

[tardy ingot]

Oh right its not 0.74

i thought it was

its 0.8 prec

mb

[vivid kayak]

Shame on you for not remembering every single gun's precision multiplier to the last decimal pt

[tardy ingot]

i forget 0.8 ones the most

[quartz tiger]

whats the baller solo loadout rn

[dry pumice]

True solo or (bot) solo

[quartz tiger]

uh bot solo but is there something diff for true?

its been a bit since i played

[icy cave]

yeah you got no bots

[quartz tiger]

mb i meant like loadout

[past mesa]

level dependant

cant go wrong with hel rev high cal

atm

[quartz tiger]

alrighty

tyvm

[icy cave]

tbh this is the play: take anything, play couple levels, remember you can't solo this game anyways (legit), go back to lfg

[past mesa]

gl burst sentry is good but just dont give bots c foam

and hammer is best melee but you can pretty much use what ever

[quartz tiger]

are bots just silly with c foam

[past mesa]

yeah they can only full charge but they shoot it from where they are standing so they will just shoot it at a wall

[past mesa]

you can tell them to use tool with q

btw

[ocean spindle]

usually with bots u need the big big firepower, they r bad with guns that are precision based or very powerful [thats why i always have em on machineguns] so usually shotguns, high cal, combat, chokemod, maybs sniper or scattergun in a few levels if it is packed with bigs n stuff

those kinds of stuff :]

[quartz tiger]

i see bots do be a bbit silly :) thank you all i forgot how neato the gtfo community is

[ocean spindle]

bots r just goblins

but they nice goblins

[past mesa]

no worries gl for your runs if you forget anything or need help just ping someone will tell you "mostly" correct info

[hidden ridge]

place sentries facing yourself so they shoot at you in order to motivate you

(dont)

[past mesa]

Hel auto sentry facing backwards

At least it doesn’t break head

[hidden ridge]

By the way do sentries still do that weird visual glitch where a part of them gets gigantic and scales back?

Been a while since I saw it

[past mesa]

i havent seen it either

at least for a bit

[hidden ridge]

First time I saw it I got scared

[minor fractal]

They need to make a hard left/right turn, but should still be in the game.

[past mesa]

love to hear it

[olive robin]

If your sentries are pointed at you, you can practice dodging the bullets so you can get better at dodging shooters

[ocean spindle]

what

[past mesa]

actually i agree

[halcyon mango]

sentry bullets work a bit differently than shooter projectiles. a bit

[soft crater]

Dodge this scatter gun shot.

[olive robin]

All I have to do is wait for the perfect spread rng where they are all on one side

[soft crater]

32 pellets

[civic wave]

Oh hell yea, pellet spread is a sick excuse to use if I miss something now

Failed choke mod? Must be pellet spread.

[scenic tangle]

what were changes on auto sentry

[ocean spindle]

is hel now

[tropic vine]

Hel prefez

[ocean spindle]

and ammo nerf

[tropic vine]

*prefex

[ocean spindle]

prefix

[tropic vine]

Fuu-

Discord leaves calls

[scenic tangle]

how much ammo nerf

[ocean spindle]

max is about 500 and something

550 or around there

[soft crater]

iirc

it used to be 800

[wintry kayak]

they should just make choke mod a slug instead change my mind

probably too similar to hi cal tho

[lone mortar]

High cal is 30dmg now

I beg to see no differ

[tardy ingot]

?

[lone mortar]

I see no diff

Thats all ill say

To a TECHNICALITY

[tardy ingot]

range, prec multi
Firerate
Pin point vs shotgun pellets

[lone mortar]

yes they are different in every situation

[tardy ingot]

[lone mortar]

I use them as a hunt tool

I hunt every single giants and tank

[umbral mango]

[wind wren]

Does a sniper 1tap a giant striker if it's to the head? Or does it have to be back of the head

[icy cave]

1 tap in front as well

[arctic marten]

just to the head

[wind wren]

Thanks : D

[ocean spindle]

is it not possible in D1 to ||skip the reactor anymore? the door to pull the infectious fog is in lockdown||

[soft crater]

[ocean spindle]

i ask clearly being a dumbass pls i need an answer

[desert falcon]

||You can still skip the reactor, you just do the alarm at the apex door. (With fog and no lights)||

[tardy ingot]

this was also always the case

[ocean spindle]

oh :]

dies

[soft crater]

Funny to think

R6 was a year ago

[lone mortar]

so

you can skip all (reactor/fog go poof command)

and do apex door

[craggy pier]

yeah

thats how u speedrun

[wind wren]

If I shoot a scout while its tentacles are out, does it still call? Just wanna make sure

[fierce walrus]

nope

if you kill a scout at all

[dry pumice]

No. If it dies - it dies.

[fierce walrus]

it wont scream

[dry pumice]

It will only scream if it survives the attack.

[wind wren]

Alr I c, so a extra question, does a scout die from sniper to body?

Or does it have to be hwad/backshot

[fierce walrus]

you can even trigger the scout and if you manage to kill it before it goes invincible it wont scream

[fierce walrus]

im pretty sure you need head

[wind wren]

Dammit

I assume hammer is same thing right? Has to be head

[fierce walrus]

just wait for it to release its tentacles then aim and shoot

[fierce walrus]

yes

actually

sniper in the back might kill it

[wind wren]

I got shit visibility on it thats why I'm asking

[jagged shore]

to back will work

[wind wren]

back& head give same bonus no?

[jagged shore]

no

[wind wren]

Both +100% extra dmg

[fierce walrus]

nope

[jagged shore]

incorrect

[wind wren]

Ohhhh, so how much is each?

[jagged shore]

depends on the enemy
for scout head is 3x

[fierce walrus]

they are diffreny values

And back is 1.5 i think

[jagged shore]

back dmg scales from 1x to 2x depending on how behind you are (angle wise)

[wind wren]

Ah I see, thanks a lot

[wind wren]

Can I somehow synchronise meele attacks with bots? Would need it for giant striker kill

[civic wave]

Wait until the bots are close enough

And then you hit

[wind wren]

Tried that and it started shooting

It was like inside it
Ig I'll just try it again maybe itll start working

[dry pumice]

Guys, a random thought.

[ocean spindle]

when a single enemy is the room they will shoot it if its awake, cause they count it as 'the room being woken up'
if its two or three enemies in the area, they will help u melee it before it alerts the rest of the room

[dry pumice]

With new Spear's "pseudo-sprint" - do you think it would be interesting to give objective items same treatment?

"You CAN sprint with a cell... Just not quite as fast."

[wind wren]

Oh I see. Thats probably why then. Thanks a lot

[ocean spindle]

i think its fine as it is, spear buff was cause it needed it, but objective items just play into the difficulty as in a way to organize ur team into protectin one two people carrying stuff

[ocean spindle]

yeah, always try to go for the back of the head too! that way u get the most damage, and just keep destroyin its limbs with as much as a charge as you can to keep it staggered

[wind wren]

Yeah I always go for the back of the head on giants, didnt know about the limbs thing tho I'll try to solo one that way sometime. Thanks a lot

[hasty sparrow]

o/ guys, just got the game and finished the tutorial, but i got a question, everything has a shadow behind it, on HUD, there's any way to disable it? I'm getting some weird stuff seeing everything double, looks like i'm drunk

[desert falcon]

Under HUD: HUD pixel effects --> turn it to 0

only applies in game and not in the lobby/settings themselves

[next socket]

Does anisotropic filtering toggle not do anything? Doesn't appear to fix the blurry textures at angles

[primal rock]

Question and sorry if this has been asked before. What happened to the audio story from Run Down 6? I recall having story segments play while waiting to do door scans and in the ALT version these did not play.

[verbal zinc]

Too much effort

[fierce walrus]

or lore reasons

or both

[compact junco]

in one of the videos on steam store page it explains that the yellow boxes focus more on storyline and find out "who you are" and "where the monsters come from", then why isnt R5A2 recollect marked yellow? theres 4 logs you can find in that terminal that have interrogations with the team, and R5A3 has another 4 logs also explaining the characters more?

[hardy grotto]

old levels

that is probably the reason lmao

[minor fractal]

That and main story vs. optional story.

[compact junco]

but since R5 is created anew in ALT would it be considered old 😛

[compact junco]

true but if u think about it even the missions marked in yellow, the story there is optional

logs n stuff

can just ignore

[hardy grotto]

i can agree for a lot of the alt r6 stuff yea

its mostly just told in logs

[minor fractal]

Those are optional, though.

[hardy grotto]

but in og it wasnt

[minor fractal]

The main story stuff is presentation-heavy.

A lot of the R6 stuff is also removed.

(because it was annoying/bad)

[hardy grotto]

didnt u like hearing schaeffer tho ray

just a little

why do you do what you do

[compact junco]

im fine with story being told through logs, but i was jus confused by the yellow markings

[minor fractal]

Do you know?

The Warden knows.

[compact junco]

I do want to hear schaffer

I feel like cause I didnt experience the original rundowns ill never know the full story

we hear him alot R7 ik, im sure more in R8, but do we hear him at the end of R6?

cause in R7 he talks to us all buddy buddy like we talked before, itll be strange if weve never talked to him r6 then r7 we besties lol

[hardy grotto]

tbh, a lot of the old story doesnt seem to matter now

og r6 is the only bit you missed out on

[compact junco]

I love story and lore i got WAY too excited when i found that whiteboard in R6B2

[compact junco]

doesnt matter? elaborate my dear watson

[hardy grotto]

seems like post og r6 they have taken the story in a different direction

[tardy ingot]

B2? Thats in BX no?

[hardy grotto]

and a lot of what they seemed to have setup doesnt really apply to everything happening now

[compact junco]

oh yeah it is

not good with numbers lol

[compact junco]

which bothers me so much cause they wont remaster R7 and R8 is a continuation of the R7 story 😠

[hardy grotto]

yea its pretty rough for you

im sure u could find all the stuff u missed in the lore channel soemwhere but it'd be a lot of digging lmao

[compact junco]

ig so

[mossy aurora]

THIS IS DOCTOR REBECCA STOKES

[hardy grotto]

LMAO

[compact junco]

its weird that theres 2 stories

just change a few things in R7 slap an ALT label and boom

despite it its still one of my favorite games gameplay wise

and the story is very cool

i just wish the ending was the same story as the begining lol

[rich zealot]

What weapons are the best for beginners?

[compact junco]

I really liked the SMG

and the pump shotgun

[minor fractal]

For Mains, avoid DTR, autopistol, sawed-off, and HEL shotgun

For Specials, high-cal and heavy assault I would say do the best at teaching you game fundamentals while being fairly straightforward to pick up and use.

[rich zealot]

is van auken lcts good for main?

[minor fractal]

What is its common name?

SMG?

SMG is fine.

[rich zealot]

kk

[minor fractal]

Any of the Mains that aren't the ones I listed all do basically the same thing.

[rich zealot]

thx for the pointers man

very new to the game rn

[minor fractal]

np

[rich zealot]

are there any other tips for begginers

you could lend?

[minor fractal]

You need to go out of your way to learn things and develop skills.

You will eventually hit walls that you won't be able to overcome w/out some amount of skill improvement.

[rich zealot]

i just cant get past r1a1

idk if its that im only playing with one actual person most the time

[minor fractal]

What kills you?

[rich zealot]

usualy keycard doors

the alarm ones

[minor fractal]

Which of the two, though?

[rich zealot]

the second

[minor fractal]

Or both tend to?

Probably need better alarm setups.

[cold quarry]

they only really thought about story levels for 6 and 7

[rich zealot]

we usualy blow past the first one

[rich zealot]

ill get on that

thanks for the tip man

[minor fractal]

C-foam and mines are the simplest.

Foam a door, maybe even add more foam as it breaks off.

Put a mine on your side, so that when it breaks it nukes the clumped enemies.

[compact junco]

if you c-foam the door and place a mine on the inside, the c-foam allows the enemies to build up, the mine goes off when they get in killing most of them, c-foam just makes mine more efficient with more kills

[rich zealot]

thx man

[compact junco]

only issue is bringing c-foam AND mine deployer. cause I find its more difficult with just one sentry gun, and I always like bringing the bio tracker to mark targets and scouts.

so either bring both and cover 1 door with a sentry, or find some C-foam grenades or mines around the level

[rich zealot]

kk

[soft crater]

Instructions unclear. I down my team with the blast

[pure lintel]

any good shotguns people could recommend? (im very new and have only tried the auto one)

[fierce walrus]

choke mode is a great shotgun to start with

combat shotgun is decent for learning

pump shotgun and scatergun kinda require a more aggresive mindset so you might not want to start off with them (especiallu scatergun for that matter)

[silver fable]

all the special shotguns are good

pump shotty is mandatory (I think beth will be disappointed if I don't do the meme)

seriously though pump and choke both are good damage guns and great into bosses, bring choke if you want that damage + range or bring pump if you want uptime to fight hordes too and are willing to give up range

combat leans even further into the whole fighting hordes bit

I'd still learn a waveclear special with some range to it like heavy assault rifle or one of the machine guns as well, but if you learnt, say, heavy assault rifle + pump shotty + choke shotty you'd be in a very solid place

the main shotguns are a lot more experimental, they're kinda like honorary specials in the main slot

imo you should learn a "main-y" main, so like rayalot said,

For Mains, avoid DTR, autopistol, sawed-off, and HEL shotgun

but if you want to bring a shotgun in main, imo heavy assault rifle or revolver would be the most suitable specials to pair, since they're the most main-like specials

[wind wren]

What are good weapons if I have bad aim? Running bullpup and sniper rn. Works somewhat fine, but I dont rly use the sniper much except on the occasional scout or a giant during alarm

(Hel rifles aren't rly a option for me bcs of the chargup. I quite fairly low frames until my new pc arrives so I cant rly time the shots)

[pure lintel]

thanks, I'll def experiment more with everything more

[tardy ingot]

mains:
Carbine (burst) works decently well since it seems to have bigger bullets (or at least it feels like it). Hel shotgun definetly if you learn the playstyle (less about aim, more about positioning and movement)

Special:
(Pump) shotgun, works well of body shots
High caliber pistol can also work well due to bodyshots being what you go for, for basically every single enemy

[wind wren]

Alr thanks a lot. I'll try those out

[silver fable]

imo autos like machine guns and heavy assault rifle can be more forgiving of not landing your shots

[wind wren]

I have opened about 11 ressource lockers now and there were 3Long range flashes, 4lock melters and 4 glowsticks. Is that just skillissue on RNG or is a zone predetermined to have X consumables etc? Cuz I'm strongly considering restarting bcs of that

[dry pumice]

Bullpup is a fine pick, although not great for close range hipfire.
If you find yourself often fighting at knife range and can't handle ADSing at those distances - consider any of the SMGs or even just the pistol. Or even the shotguns, although you'll have to learn their range limitations.

For specials:
Heavy Assault Rifle
Arbalist Machine Gun (Low RPM)
High Caliber Pistol
Choke Mod Shotgun

HAR and Arbalist are basically slightly different takes on the same concept. Basically same damage, but HAR reloads faster and doesn't have a charge up. Sacrifices for it with ammo though - it runs out like immediately.

High Caliber pistol rewards just hitting enemy anywhere and doesn't care for headshots. You can also hipfire it with a certain degree of success, although requires getting used to.

Choke Mod is same shit as HighCal - just aim for main body mass, don't think. Except you can mag-dump it like mad and delete giants if they start causing you trouble in a pinch. Reloads too much, but its a fair price for being amazing at basically everything else.

[silver fable]

levels spawn the same med/ammo/tool per zone, with very rare exception

[dry pumice]

Oh and i keep forgetting the golden boy - Combat Shotgun. An absolutely brainless close range weapon.

Ammo for days.

[wind wren]

I strangley found I perform fairly well with non automatic guns cuz I don't have to keep em on enemies but only have to wait for a bit and land that one big hit. Thanks a lot. I'll try those out

[silver fable]

that's fair, try the guns eva recommended

[dry pumice]

High Cal / Choke Mod then, without doubt.

[wind wren]

Alr thanks. Guess it's just the level then (it's R1B2)

Will do thanks a lot artek and fnrslvr : D

[silver fable]

things like foam nades, foam tripmines, explosive tripmines, syringes, lock melters, etc. have far more variance in spawns

but things like nades/trips that people sweat over tend to be rare

also the longer you play, the more you'll come to value lock melters

oh, and as far as res (med/ammo/tool) goes, make sure to use the terminals to list/ping all res in the zone

[wind wren]

Didn't even know that's a thing, thanks

[wind wren]

Yeah those I don't mind. But now 10 flashlights/glowsticks? That's just mean lmao

[neon gust]

Long range flashlight help you sync an entire room without an issue

really good for stealthing

[dry pumice]

Also it makes far more easier to find loot

Something about it makes orange lockers and artifacts glow and shine, immediately catches your eye

But yet - consumables make up 80% of the loot

You're more likely to find glowsticks in any given locker than anything else

You get used to it

GoblinSlayer.jpg

[neon gust]

consumables are actually presets :]

depending on the zone you can get whatever they set it too

[dry pumice]

Yeah and they keep setting it to glowsticks

[dry pumice]

Which level in R6 would benefit the most from bio-scan speed boosters?

[ashen frigate]

D1 Reactor Skip ? :D

[dry pumice]

outside of that

C2... No point.
C3... Maybe to rush overload and the extraction scans. The last could save the run, but at that point... And what would the point of rushing overload be.
CX... No point.
D1... Server room scan is kinda bullshit, could be a life saver there.
D2... Wtf was D2... I don't know. Maybe. I remember precisely 1 scan. Wasn't there a thunderdome or someshit?...
D3... No point.
D4... Maybe? Don't remember the scan situation on that one, but eh - whatever it takes.

[civic wave]

D2 crossroads or crossways or whatever

[dry pumice]

Yeah, i remember the first room, the spooky room and a supposed thunderdome that i don't remember beating.

Would bringing bioscan speed be counter intuitive for thunderdomes since it just causes enemies to spawn even faster?

[tardy ingot]

Im always suprised that artek imagines the weirdest stuff into levels

[tardy ingot]

??? How would that work

[wind wren]

How does the game determine where to spawn enemies on alarms?

[dry pumice]

Someone mentioned once that in thunderdomes with scans enemy spawns are basically scripted as you progress through the scan. LIke that one... R5 overload?... So if you bring enough biospeed - you can shorten the down time of these scripted scans by a lot and get yourself potentially overwhelmed with overlap.

[dry pumice]

It always tries to spawn them 2 rooms away from you.

You're in room 0.
Adjasent rooms are rooms 1 and are buffers.
Any rooms after that are potential enemy spawn locations.

They break that rule a couple of times just to fuck with you, but i can only remember like 1 exception

[wind wren]

I'm in r1b2 rn and there is a room that is 1 door away, but 2 door away if I were to take a diff path, that doesn't count tho right? It's still just 1 away right? So it shouldnt spawn there

[dry pumice]

Yeah, paths don't matter.

[wind wren]

Alr thx

[dry pumice]

If its adjasent in any way - that's room 1, a.k.a. the no man's land.

[wind wren]

Alr I c

Thanks a lot

OK so the game kinda just spawned them inside the room (tbf it is a massive room)

[dry pumice]

#gtfo-media message

[dry pumice]

It really shouldn't do that unless the squad is too spread.

Allegedly the spawns are only based on the host, so if you get separated from him as a client - you just end up seeing enemies pop in into existence right in front of you.

But this should never come into play during an alarm scan. People only ever experience that in reactors and maybe uplinks

Also the game is not very clear on what is considered a room divider or not, which is a whole other can of worms.
As seen here: #gtfo-media message

[hidden ridge]

I feel like D1's scans in the big room aren't long, it's just that the line takes forever to get where it needs

[dry pumice]

Fair

[hidden ridge]

D2 has some alarms with scans, 1 is in extreme, 1 is charger path, one on the right at start and 1 is the t-scan at start

[civic wave]

Iirc what happens is the enemies are scripted to spawn on a timer independent of scan%, so you'd complete the bioscan in record time but still be fighting for your life

[hidden ridge]

D3 only has 1 in overload and 1 in high IIRC

[civic wave]

Or that's what people said about r5c2

[hidden ridge]

D4 has a 2 alarms with scans and 1 t-scan

[wind wren]

Oh wait it didn't, doors aren't the only thing that separate rooms. The entrance area counts as a room too and is sperated by a open divider right? So they just came from there ig

[dry pumice]

Um. I guess that would make more sense and would be easier to program.

[wind wren]

Or rather open dividers also indicate separate rooms to phrase it better

[dry pumice]

Yes, that is what i found out recently.

The squad infil / deployment room is always a room of itself, doors or not.

[hidden ridge]

Perhaps to answer your question maybe it makes D4's scans a tad easier

[wind wren]

OK it makes a lot of sense then.

[dry pumice]

As exampled by an image that i linked

That's right next to infil point

If you don't read the walls like the bible - woopsie doo, all turrets on the wrong side

[hidden ridge]

A and B rooms of the very first zone of every map NEVER have a door connecting them to each other

[civic wave]

You start getting a knack for recognising room dividers

And remembering level layouts too I guess

[dry pumice]

Which level was shooter party again? B2?

[ashen frigate]

R1B2

[dry pumice]

Does the hole in the broken wall during that one scan counts as a room divider?

I could never figure it out

[ashen frigate]

Yes it does

[hidden ridge]

yes

[dry pumice]

lovely

I mean thank god that the sand mining area counts as a single room and is large as shit

[hidden ridge]

yeah I'm re-reading what he wrote

"the spooky room" he means the room with ||cscouts||, the first room he probably means well the first room, for the thunderdome he cant mean the ||t-scan since it's the first room|| so I think he means ||first room of Extreme||

It really needs to be interpreted 😄

[dry pumice]

Can confirm the 1st guess, cant say anything about the rest. Again: i don't remember. I'm not even sure i ever got the PE on D2 or not. It feels like i did, but...

[hidden ridge]

D2 only has extreme

but yeah I get what you mean

[dry pumice]

well that explains

And extreme waaaaas?.....

I remember something terminal related and meatballs falling form the "skies"

[wind wren]

I'm having some trouble meeleing Gaint Shooters, I'm hitting the head w a Hammer and their heads aren't exploding. I'm aiming at about half way of their head

[hidden ridge]

||corrupted uplink and a tank behind the last door which always wakes up, also you need to do scans in the fog and flyiers spawn||

[dry pumice]

That room makes no fucking sense btw...

[wind wren]

Do I have to jump or smth?

[dry pumice]

Giant shooters have like 150 health

They take multiple headshots from heavy melee before they pop

[wind wren]

Oh I c

Thanks

[dry pumice]

Counter-intuitively they are even more meaty than melee giants

With a spear you can kill them in two full charges, provided the first one was from behind

Initiate with a headbackstab and then confirm with a 2nd headshot

[ocean spindle]

not really, hybrids i can get it [kinda cause they do have spikes like a certain other resistant enemy] but shooters in general in this game always have more health in general cause they have weak heads

[tardy ingot]

@dry pumice youll be forced to replay and memorize every level at some point

[hidden ridge]

"forced"

[ocean spindle]

forced

[hidden ridge]

by Darkeva himself

[ocean spindle]

if u dont know the levels u will b banned

[hidden ridge]

Latex suit and all

[ocean spindle]

wait w no hold no wait not like tha-

[tardy ingot]

Heard the same for r5c2ov

I never play with bio scan boosters rly so idk about that one. But i can say its not the case for other levels with thunderdomes (like r7c1 or r5b3)

[tardy ingot]

You too

But for ya its also gun stats

[ocean spindle]

qwq i just need to know the basics

[hidden ridge]

I refuse to remember gun stats numbers aside from "can kill with 1 hs from front? 0 or 1"

Booleans are easier

[tardy ingot]

Booleans?

Obviously i dont expect anyone to remember gun stats (or all level layouts perfectly)

But artek is so confused with every level

i wanna do r4c3pe with artek until he likes it (or dies trying)

[ocean spindle]

i only know every level of the game cause i havent touched most of r4 and r5 is a really nice strat

:3

[hidden ridge]

Well

Let's take an example

for me, at least

I only did r2e1 ONCE, and only ALT, I dont think I ever saw a video of OG maybe once but whatever

Yet I can kinda remember most of it

there's a scout at the beginning, fog, surge, shadows, surge etc

but some maps, sometimes, blend as a mess and I can barely remember anything

[ocean spindle]

i dont have a lot of clears on any of the levels in this game [my most clears is like 10 for r2b4 or so] and i think i could just, draw every map from r1 r2 r3 pretty much, not perfectly but the idea

well r2 no i still i still need the e1 and d2

fuck geforce

[hidden ridge]

Like

I finished r2d2 twice

and I probably would get lost again

With remembering which code is where

[ocean spindle]

i dont really have that problem, maybs its cause i havent played the right levels yet, the only time it happened to me was on some r4 level with an uplink where i got lost and ran into, an uncleared room and died lmao
but i dont really know any like confusin map levels

i saw so much people gettin lost on the HSU extraction of r7b3 and i just there thinkin how did u not see the door

[wind wren]

Help, I don't know how to trap for a alarm, I got a class3 alarm and got overrun hard last time. I got 1 sentry, cfoam, bio and mine. There r no doors, only a chokepoint

Idfk what to do

Ofc set up sentry aiming at chokepoint. But it doesn't seem to make any sense mining it?

Ig I'd slap a couple down either way bcs I got 2 extra mines and a full mine deployer

But idk how to effectively

[hallow pollen]

are there closable doors 2 rooms away

[wind wren]

Yes

[hallow pollen]

close, cfoam, mine

[ocean spindle]

um check the spawn thingie in #gtfo-media by artek, should tell u a bit about the spawns !

[wind wren]

It's basically hole in the wall, room 1, sec door, room 2, door, room 3

[ocean spindle]

oh sec door

[wind wren]

Ik that, that's why I'm worried. No close able doors

[ocean spindle]

no i think thats too far away yeah
well, yes sentry on the chokepoint is nice, but usually with more open designed levels foam and mines arent always gonna be useful, u can always change around ur loadout to 2 sentries one mine deployer, 3 sentries...

so if u feel like this level needs more than one sentry u can experiment with two

maybs it just isnt the right level for foam

i think ik which level it is too

[tardy ingot]

Either deal with it (it rly shouldnt be too hard even with bots) or die and swap the tools you take (aka swapping cfoam and mines for 2 more sentries here)

[wind wren]

It's r1b2

[ocean spindle]

yep, i guessed right ksks

[wind wren]

lol

[ocean spindle]

yeah usually i took two burst sentries in my runs of that level, but u can take 3 too

[tardy ingot]

understanding what tools to take (after maybe failing once or twice) is a way to get better

[ocean spindle]

yeah !

[wind wren]

I figured sentries may be better but I hadn't explored a lot 1st run so thought maybe there's mineable stuff ahead

Also I'm a mine+cfoam Stan. They can be insane with door

I'll just try and maybe I'll survive

[tardy ingot]

And without reason they kinda waste slots quite often

Try stuff out and find out

[wind wren]

It's more like 3 bots. I'm almost useless in gunfights cuz I got a solid 10 fps in them

[ocean spindle]

thats so me

[wind wren]

Yeah cfoam+mine is usually just my first pick cuz idk but yeah next run I'll change if I die

[tardy ingot]

Biggest recommendation is giving bots a good loadout (obviously no cfoam as tool)

The generally chosen one is

Burst rifle + veruta/arbalist machine gun

also moving around (away from enemies) when you arent on a scan. That will

1. help you not take as much dmg
2. make the bots shoot more

[hallow pollen]

whats the difference between a1b1c1 and axbxcx

[ocean spindle]

nothin :]
they were just extension levels

they have some newer stuff i guess

a new enemy

... 'new'

[lusty bramble]

You should try the bots with the double tap burst cannon

[ocean spindle]

_>

[hallow pollen]

machine pistol any good? or any reason to take that over the heavy smg? the descriptions are basically the same

not like im using the smg for long range encounters anyway

or even mid range for that matter. mostly just short

[lusty bramble]

Lots of ammo

Funny weapon

[ocean spindle]

the heavy smg is like a heavy automatic, is big dmg n stuff with shortist medium range
machinepistol is very very very fast, but it is super aggresive, u have to be in the face of the enemy and riddle it with bullets to kill it, and it does it kinda fast, but it has very short range n stuff

it is funny

fun fun

ah my internet

also heavy smg, heavy automatic, i am dumb but u get me

[arctic marten]

machine pistol = less damage per bullet, more fire rate
heavy smg is vise versa

[hallow pollen]

does the presumably higher ammo count of the machine pistol make up for it? or is it more of a meme

[ocean spindle]

some people say its a meme, i think its fine if a lil niche
it kills pretty fast, is very controllable aiming down sights [the only recoil is goin up]

but it depends at the end if u like it or not

[arctic marten]

if you are not further than 4 meters, you will get more damage per refill of ammo with the machine pistol

and you hit all your shots, of course

[dry pumice]

R1B2?

First scan?

Just brute force it

[lusty bramble]

Artek...

[ocean spindle]

o_o???

um that was, about an, hour ago

[dry pumice]

Classic

[arctic marten]

as opposed to?

[dry pumice]

ANyway, point still stands

[ocean spindle]

also it was the second scan