gtfo-related-questions

[tardy ingot]

Its not even the worst weapon in the game lol

[past star]

What is then?

[upper ginkgo]

no please not another weapon discussion

[fierce walrus]

yes please

[past star]

Stfu voxy

[ocean spindle]

not with the newie here

[civic wave]

i've been tempted to try speedrun r1a1 with autopistol and just stagger an entire alarm wave while i do scans

[past star]

Fake speedrunners

[tardy ingot]

Bullpup or smg

[fierce walrus]

my opinion is worst is smg

[ocean spindle]

qwq

[civic wave]

but eh whatever I just dmr bodyshot/intentionally whiff combat shotgun to not kill to do the same thing

[past star]

I “speedrun” levels only with a time requirement

[fierce walrus]

a wall of bullets

[ocean spindle]

ive been rockin doubletap too much since it came out

[fierce walrus]

i like double tap

[ocean spindle]

think im in love with it

[past star]

Both 10x better than autopistol

[fierce walrus]

but it requires aiming

which is troublesome

[past star]

Autopistol only good for quick swap

[fierce walrus]

how

its a decent support weapon

thats its whole point

you help your team take less damage

[civic wave]

don't need support when teammates good

they handle themselves

[tardy ingot]

the haha funny 10x aside

They are not better lol. Even just as a raw dmg gun they arent even far ahead due to pen

Now take into consideration its obscene stagger

[civic wave]

shooting skill gap

[tardy ingot]

if they can handle themselves then you can make them focus more on killing effectively by peeling. Making them stronger threats

Hel pp isnt good

[past star]

💤

[tardy ingot]

but saying its worse than smg

or bullpup

[civic wave]

if you gave me a choice I'd probably still run autopistol over the other 2 because it's quaint

[fierce walrus]

yeah

[ocean spindle]

cause is funk

[fierce walrus]

yeah

[ocean spindle]

i should run smg again been a bit

[fierce walrus]

also hel pp has a cool sight

unlike the other 2

[ocean spindle]

smg sight is cool

[tardy ingot]

hel pp is niche and has a lot of its power put into its stagger

but at least it has smth its best at

smg and bullpup be like

[fierce walrus]

wdym they are great at one thing

s u c k i n g

[civic wave]

but if smg is bad, why has it been used to speedrun r1a1/???????!/11.

[fierce walrus]

cause someone wanted to

you can equip it after all

[past star]

Or eval!!!

[tardy ingot]

Smg so good its used in the most ran speedrun. And by everyone!

[fierce walrus]

tbh i can beat R1A1 in an hour and say its a speedrun

cause i tried to go fast

[ocean spindle]

proven wrong with facts and logic

[civic wave]

even if you're exceptionally slow there's no way you take more than 20 minutes unless you take a break

[dark wren]

is the game easy or hard when you are experienced

[fierce walrus]

easier

at some point is becomes easy

but thats a very far point

[civic wave]

eh depends on your level of experience

[ocean spindle]

well, easy-ish

depends on the level

[tardy ingot]

Experienced is also a broad term

[fierce walrus]

yeah

[civic wave]

once you get all the gamesense and consistent mechanics, it is a lot easier, but then again I'm talking about the level of duo e tiers no cheese

[past star]

I wouldn’t say it’s ever “easy” when it comes to harder levels. Cause theres always that chance of someone doing something dumb and causing a wipe

[tardy ingot]

look at the difference of say me vs hani gun play wise

Im worlds behind

[past star]

Or running out of ammo on r7e1 because your tm8 forgot to type in code

cought time1pm

[dark wren]

whats r7e1

is it like a mission code

[past star]

A level

[ocean spindle]

um one of the hardest levels

but yeah somethin somethin um codes

u will see

if u get there

[craggy pier]

a small puppy that acts big by barking

[tardy ingot]

Rundown 7, Level E - 1

[fierce walrus]

the game has rundowns which are like campaigns with levels going from A tier (easiest) to E tier (hardest)

[tardy ingot]

rundown = campaign

[ocean spindle]

A B C D E

:3

[dark wren]

oh

[ocean spindle]

so for example, rundown 1 level A1 is one of the easiest levels on the game

R1A1

[tardy ingot]

The game has easily a few hundreds hours worth of content. Not even considering modded or challenge runs

[dark wren]

so on average a player who is dedicated to the game racks up how much hours if he tries everything?

[tardy ingot]

it rly depends

[fierce walrus]

yeah

safe to say 500 hours

[latent obsidian]

you could easily expect over 400

[civic wave]

depends how much you suck at the game and how much you get carried

[tardy ingot]

a lot of players you are talking to rn are easily above 1k hours

[ocean spindle]

well i am on 300 and i am like not super near finishin the game

[past star]

Modded: cool when it comes to rundowns, not cool when everyone in your lobby is running heroic heart, run and gun, shoot in air, and sprint with heavy objectives

[civic wave]

if you get carried through everything you clear every level in 200 hours, if you're stumbling through the dark on your own probably like 400+

[raven owl]

I have 100 hours and have only cleared 1/6 of the game

[ocean spindle]

very cool to not be carried

[raven owl]

You will have to replay a lot

You will most likely never get it the first try

[dark wren]

wow this game comes with agony and pain?!?!?

[past star]

Very cool to carry

Yes

[latent obsidian]

damn right

[raven owl]

yes so much

But enjoyable somehow. We're not masochists, we swear

[latent obsidian]

How many hours would it be if you beat every level first time I wonder?

[dark wren]

is there a tutorial atleast in the game

[ocean spindle]

yeah!

[fierce walrus]

yes

[ocean spindle]

the TRAINING

[tardy ingot]

Average play time of a level? Lemme check

[past star]

Just wait for r1-r8 speeds

[ocean spindle]

tbh its nice to learn sneaks n stuff but it defo doesnt explain everythin

a part of the game is u discover things too

[fierce walrus]

yeah

it explains the basics

[raven owl]

If only tutorial explained terminal

[dark wren]

tutorial doesnt explain everything right

[latent obsidian]

48 hour stream marathon

[fierce walrus]

it tells you they exist

thats all you get

[dark wren]

im assuming theres some things i have to learn through the runs i play through

[ocean spindle]

yep

[fierce walrus]

yup

[raven owl]

yes

[ocean spindle]

yah

[latent obsidian]

correct

[ocean spindle]

exactly

[civic wave]

you'll learn about the mechanics of pretty much everything, yeah

[dark wren]

is it anything major or small

[raven owl]

Uhhh

[fierce walrus]

uh depends?

[civic wave]

enemies, their attacks, the stealth mechanics, how enemy spawns work for alarms, etc etc

[raven owl]

A lot of major stuff really quick

Then it becomes smaller niche stuff you learn

[ocean spindle]

usually u can learn a lot about the game by just takin ur time completin a level, playin around with stuff and experimenting

[latent obsidian]

The tutorial tells you what the game is about but it will take a lot longer to become "competent"

[dark wren]

oh

so if i alert the monsters in lets say this room or whatever do i have to clear them all out for the next room for it to be slient or something

[raven owl]

Yeah

[civic wave]

if you alert one enemy, you can probably stealth kill it
if you alert the entire room, you fight the entire room

[raven owl]

Awake enemies scream

[fierce walrus]

if you dont clear them out they will wake up the other room when you open it

[dark wren]

😭 😭

[ocean spindle]

if you open doors as u got enemies on ur back, they will just keep on coming

and u cant sneak from waken enemies either

they follow u till ur dead

[raven owl]

Somehow

[fierce walrus]

yeah

you can run but you cant hide

[ocean spindle]

and they will outrun u

[dark wren]

can you atleast block with your melees or blunts

[fierce walrus]

you can stagger them

[ocean spindle]

no not really
u can stagger em

which only is like a second of time to keep going

or to attack again

[raven owl]

That's actually so funny. One time we got super far into a level, one guy was afk, and we were dealing with a pulled room and one enemy ran past me and ran across 5 miles to get to the guy that was afk

Lmfaooo

[dark wren]

can i clear hordes with a big blunt or melee

[ocean spindle]

very useful, but depends on if u got 70 more enmies behind u

with the melee?
not as a newie not by far, and tbh even with experience itll be very hard

idk whatchu mean by blunt tho theres no weed in the complex :3

[latent obsidian]

Depends on the size of the horde, with a large one even very good players will struggle I'd say

[civic wave]

if you can move properly and avoid attacks, you can take down waves with melee although it's generally faster and safer to shoot them

[raven owl]

Probably bat/hammer lol

[dark wren]

theres different monster types right im assuming

[ocean spindle]

yeah

[raven owl]

Yes

[ocean spindle]

no spoils

they r awesome

:3

[raven owl]

Nice catch, almost spoiled

[dark wren]

is it like l4d2 zombies

[ocean spindle]

idk l4d but answers probs not

[civic wave]

you know, instead of answering any more questions I'm tempted to say

Buy the game on steam, play it for 90 minutes, see how it is, then refund it if you want to

[dark wren]

whens the next estimated sale

[ocean spindle]

um probs soon tbh

when the next updates comes

[raven owl]

Fall sale? prb soon

[latent obsidian]

Autumn? Halloween? R6?

[ocean spindle]

r6 probs

game always goes on sale with updates like these

so maybs this month?

[dark wren]

👍

[raven owl]

I like GTFO. One advice, GTFO is meant to be experienced with other people, so find some frens or lfg to play with you :^)

[ocean spindle]

yeah id say u can go in do the training, maybs do a mission with bots or with other newies [yeah theres bots in the game but u wont clear every mission in the game with those] and just

see how it turns out

yeah id recommend more people than bots

its way more fun

:3

[raven owl]

Share the pain :^)

[ocean spindle]

share the bullets

shoots u

[raven owl]

Idk what is up with me, but coming back to GTFO when I had to shoot my hand auto-locked onto another player instead of sleepers lmfaoo

Must be pvp mindset

[tardy ingot]

R1: 2-2 1/2 hours
R2: 4 hours
R3: 2 1/2 to 3 hours
R4: 9 1/2 hours?
R5: 12 hours?
R6: 9-9 1/2 hours~
R7: 6 1/2 hours?

So first clears (moderate speed, full optionals) comes to over 45 hours

So if you do some slowish attempts you could estimate 50 hours of straight carries from R1-R7

[past star]

Carry % category? @tardy ingot

I like it

[upper ginkgo]

r1-r3 full pub took me 12 hours straight

[past star]

You’re not allowed to melee or pick up objective items

[soft crater]

looks at my 3 bots

[past mesa]

Yeah but you could have gone faster

[raven owl]

🔥

[past star]

@tardy ingot I think it was another mask

One of the ones you got from completing regular r6 missions

Not the limited time one

Can’t member

[tardy ingot]

I think it was the limited one

then again

theres other limited stuff like the gamescom camo things no?

[past star]

Idk

[bold atlas]

Is the trailer out?

[ocean spindle]

not yets

[bold atlas]

Wasn’t it supposed to be out on the livestream?

[ocean spindle]

the livestream is still going kmsdkm

is a showcase of games

[bold atlas]

Bruhhh

19:00 CEST when is that

Wasn’t that 30 mins ago

[ocean spindle]

yeh
its 40 so should b

soon

[keen notch]

give it time

[craggy pier]

is there a way to increase the text size on the hud

like, bpm, key pings, player pings etc

objectives too

[ocean spindle]

yeah, on the options, HUD, and then u can change the size

not of pings tho

and the bpm is part of the health bar

[craggy pier]

god damn it

on 1080p it's not that visible

[halcyon mango]

I play 720p upscaled to 1080.
I just ask the others to read out objective numbers for me

[craggy pier]

yeah that makes sense

also, oof

[jaunty tapir]

Hey quick question. Typically how long is R1D1

[craggy pier]

like 15 min

[past mesa]

It depends on you

It is a pretty hard skill map

[ocean spindle]

first times as newie? 30 mins if u like go just up ahead to objective, but u probs wont so one hour or so

not as an insult of 'nah u wont' but just cause side ways are useful but hard

[jaunty tapir]

Sounds like its shorter than the previous one

[ocean spindle]

it kinda is

shorter than c2 for sure

[past mesa]

IT is

able to be done in 7 mins

every gen is able to be done in sub 9 mins

[ocean spindle]

yeah every newie should do it in 5 min

[cold quarry]

Shouldnt take more than 4 imo

[past mesa]

okay

I said this

but theyy are asking it is shorter than the other one

like how do we give them any measuement

it can literally take longer than the heat death of the universe

[ocean spindle]

we dont we say its shorter :D

smdkm

[pseudo owl]

how do the alarms work? im on r1b2 on the last alarm door its a IV alarm and am i correct to say they will all spawn from the starting area and come at me or will they come from multiple directions...?

[past mesa]

they could come from either side

[pseudo owl]

wait really i thought for the door alarms they only come from spawn but they can come from other rooms that have closed alarm doors?

[ocean spindle]

no, if u open one of the other doors they will come from there
but they cant come from the closed security doors

enemies spawn two rooms away from the one youre in, so any direction that is more than two rooms is a potential way they will come from

[pseudo owl]

thankkk you this is the info i was looking for

[ocean spindle]

yeah, if u dont open the blue security doors they wont come from any of em

good luck on the thing

[jaunty latch]

note some levels will break the two room rule but its rare

[soft crater]

wouldn't that be uplinks

(next to room dividers)

[ocean spindle]

room dividers arent a rule breaker tho

[sturdy merlin]

is there a max number for amount of mines that can be deployed?

[soft crater]

no

[soft crater]

some newbies wouldn't know about room dividers so I figure it's worth mentioning at least

but uplinks can break 2 room rule as far as I know

[vague bridge]

anything can

[inner sorrel]

Especially scout wakes

I’ve had several occasions where I have been staying back to keep error alarm enemies away from my teammates while they take out the scouts, only to have a dozen strikers and a giant spawn in the same room as me when my teammate wakes the scout by accident

or like in R2E1, if the scout is in the first room, and he gets woken up, the wave will spawn in the entrance of the mission, meaning all the enemies can spawn directly on you if the scout was close to spawn

[lone mortar]

side room

even if you sit in the same room as scout

it spawns them in the side door

just did right now for that theory

[halcyon mango]

just had that lol

ye

[inner sorrel]

I always had them spawn in the entrance lol. Guess we never managed to mess it up when the scout was alone in the side room

[inner sorrel]

Man this made me remember how much I hated R2E1

[icy cave]

No they have the same rules but confined to your zone. he is talking about R7B1 2nd alarm

Or R2E1 first alarm

[icy cave]

That's normal, it just means you are 2 rooms away from the team

[jaunty latch]

also that one r5 level that insists on spawning gaints in the extraction room while everyone is in it

[soft crater]

Doesn't change uplinks can break it

Not break per say

But rather map layout

[icy cave]

Yes, they keep to the 2 room rule except if there is no 2 rooms left in the zone

exactly what I said

[icy cave]

which one??

that sounds more like a cheater m8

[jaunty latch]

r5c3

[icy cave]

Would have to replay, fixed spawns exist for sure but it should not be on the players

that's more the signs of a cheater In the team

[jaunty latch]

it wasnt in a pub

[minor fractal]

I believe this wave is set to be from elevator direction for some reason.

Not 100%, but it does happen in the speedrun.

[icy cave]

Hmm will need to retest

[icy cave]

would not be the first non pub with a traitor

[minor fractal]

If you're doing secondary you wouldn't notice, since it updates the extraction wave.

[icy cave]

But for now lets keep it at that

[jaunty latch]

I have a video the other guy took of it too if you need it

[icy cave]

Ah yes, I always do all objectives so that's why

[subtle swift]

Will characters shout “close the door!” like in trailer? Or no more new voicelines till u pull the plug?

[icy cave]

That voice line was in the original R6 trailer as well (as they basically the same trailers) so there is your answer

from 2021

[subtle swift]

That’s what I said

[shadow flower]

The narrative voiceline was recorded fresh for this

[craggy pier]

does infection biuld faster/slower depending on heart rate

since you're breathing slower / faster

[fierce walrus]

not as far as im concerned

it only depends on the fog type

with some giving you infection faster and other slower

[craggy pier]

okae

[craggy pier]

how much HP do the limbs of big enemies have again

[fierce walrus]

one full charge hammer swing

[tardy ingot]

Isnt it 15?

[sacred dew]

that doesn't sound full

[craggy pier]

also is there anything happening to your HP if your bpm maxes out

When i hit 180bpm while partying with the sledge my hp turns yellow

is that like a warning that i'm about to have a heart attack or something or is it just for looks

[sacred dew]

slower attack

[craggy pier]

yeah i know what low stamina does i'm just asking why my hp goes yellow

[sacred dew]

cause you're tired, as far as i know stamina doesn't have any effect on your health

just your running speed and melee charge time

[craggy pier]

okae

it seems that you can dodge striker tongues by just jumping

[sacred dew]

to a certain extent

[soft crater]

Jump dodging seems rather tricky or inconsistent. At least I've hardly ever seen anyone use it to dodge

[craggy pier]

jump is my panic button

sometimes it works really well

and you save yourself from damage

[soft crater]

At best dodge left or right and combine it with a jump

I've ironically only really used this technique to dodge aggressive mines

Though with back dodge jumps

[dry pumice]

Same. I don't really do dodging as the game doesn't seem to expect me to dodge, but I still try out of desperation. Sprint to the side, jump, sometimes it works.

[soft crater]

Imean. I literally mean the directional dodge. You can still do a sprint jump off the small moment of speed it gives you

unless you run the dodge fix mod
It's somewhat difficult to pull off due to timing but it's simple enough to get used

[olive robin]

is alt rd6 gonna have new guns or

[ocean spindle]

scattergun

[olive robin]

isnt that alr in

oh

im thinking of the burst cannon

[ocean spindle]

yeh very different weapon C:

[olive robin]

any idea on when alt rd 6 is or no

[latent obsidian]

September

[olive robin]

also entirely unrelated to what i was just asking, can i shove a scout to stun lock it or will it screech

[latent obsidian]

It will screech

[ocean spindle]

once it detects itll just scream until its done

[olive robin]

if only we could stun lock shove them

[soft crater]

Staggering them is possible but still not a lot of time to react unless multiple people are actively on it

[dense leaf]

Didn't u used to be able to bully scouts and constantly shove them?

[jade gate]

um if you havent played a deeper level can you still be invited to play

[ocean spindle]

yeah

[jade gate]

oh nice

[ocean spindle]

if the host has the level unlocked everyone can join

[jade gate]

im thinking of trying to hop here and play with yall

thanks

[dense leaf]

U still get completion, u just won't be able to host the level until u've unlocked it

[ocean spindle]

u can use the lfg channels for that n stuff :3

[fierce walrus]

i wouldnt recomend hoping into too deep levels such as E tier

[jade gate]

i mean

[hidden ridge]

Dont join D-E tier lobbies unless you are explicitly invited

[jade gate]

i have a friend i play with

[dense leaf]

Personally I wouldn't go past 1 tier than what u have ulocked

[jade gate]

but we cxant beat r1b1

[dense leaf]

What ur main issue with it?

[jade gate]

and im thinking of hosting/joining soon

[dense leaf]

Stealthing, alarms, resources

[ocean spindle]

i mean in general dont join vcs unless ur invited or theres an LFG message

[jade gate]

bad at the game xD

[dense leaf]

Can't click enemy?

[hidden ridge]

In general but the point is: "LF3M R4E1" <---dont join those

[dense leaf]

Bad how?

Could be a lot of things lol

[ocean spindle]

ah i getchu i getchu sorry

[dense leaf]

Aiming, stealthing, alarm setup

[jade gate]

pretty much yeah

[dense leaf]

I'd recommend trying different guns

There's only a few primaries I can use well

[latent obsidian]

Alarm setup is probably a bigger problem than you will realise

[dense leaf]

I suck with the rest

What ellda said

[latent obsidian]

If you play with people on the server you'll pick up some strats though

[jade gate]

but honestly stealth with bots is funky

if you catch agro they immediately shoot

[dense leaf]

Stealthing with is basically stealthing solo

Bot gunshots won't alert

[ocean spindle]

bots only shoot when the rooms up, they cant alert enemies

[jade gate]

ah ok

[ocean spindle]

if theres one awake in a room, theyll run to melee it

[dense leaf]

They shoot one wakes up nearby

[jade gate]

then im ba

d

[latent obsidian]

Not quite right... they'll sometimes shoot even if its just one guy awake, not the whole room

[dense leaf]

When ur stealthing, do u aim for head with melee?

[latent obsidian]

But that doesn't wake everything else up

[ocean spindle]

smol advice, u can kill enemies pretty close to eachother, but the others cannot be glowin

when they glow they detect

so always make sure to hit as they are low

[jade gate]

ye with the knife i can kill two in a row

[ocean spindle]

they count one enemy in a room as the room wakin up, and room dividers as individual zones

[jade gate]

ye that is happenignnow

[dense leaf]

Only two?

[jade gate]

they just shoot when only 1 or 2 are alerted

[latent obsidian]

the room being up and one enemy waking up are very different though

[ocean spindle]

yeah if theres, two enemies and u kill one but the other wakes up, they see a room woken up

[dense leaf]

I wish bots would go for melee instead of shooting

[hidden ridge]

Nothing a bot does is ever going to actually wake anything up

[dense leaf]

"oh no! An enemy is awake! Better use my choke mod on this single striker!"

[hidden ridge]

They can shoot, they can move, they can do whatever

[ocean spindle]

thats ur issue for givin em the chokemod :]

[dense leaf]

True lol

I don't know what weapons r food for bots. Revolver and high cal usually do well tho

At least it seems like it

[ocean spindle]

machineguns, long range automatics in general

they shoot from afar, so long range
they dont aim for headshot, so no precision
they use high power guns on smols, so something light

[dense leaf]

Idk y I never thought to give machinegun. I give them heavy assault rifle sometimes

[ocean spindle]

everything goes back to a machinegun

har is ok too

[dense leaf]

Makes sense

[ocean spindle]

and assault rifle for main is very nice, or a burst rifle

one of the two

[dense leaf]

I tend to give bullpup or carbine

[ocean spindle]

carbine maybs would work with em, but bullpup reload probs fuck with em cause its so long enemies get close so they melee

plus its kinda eh body dmg

[hidden ridge]

Generally people put burst rifle+veruta

[dense leaf]

[hidden ridge]

I had hilarious results giving them burst cannons on R3C1 but they burn ammo FAST

So I dont advise that 😄

[ocean spindle]

lol

lmao

[dense leaf]

Rofl even

[ocean spindle]

xd even

[dense leaf]

ROTFLSHMSFOAIDMT if u will

[ocean spindle]

dying possibly

[dense leaf]

[lone mortar]

[dense leaf]

[lone mortar]

lfging but not alot of ppl

[icy cave]

then definitely don't join any D or E tiers

[vague bridge]

from my experience bots like to shoot while the room is asleep

and then if the room does wakes up they like to stand around and get tongued until they go down

[fierce walrus]

bots cant wake up rooms

their shooting is completely silent

meaning that as long as the enemy doesnt scream, or you dont wake the room up, the bots can throw a goddamn party and nothing will become hostile

[craggy pier]

You can beat r1b1

All you need is a sniper rifle

And like 2 sentries for the alarms

[vague bridge]

i dunno man

i think you can beat r1b1 with anything

[ocean spindle]

you can beat r1b1 alone

[fierce walrus]

you dont even need a sniper if you ignore the giant zone

[craggy pier]

Represent

[craggy pier]

And yes

[hidden ridge]

You dont even need to shot if you go giant zone (but it's boring so I just pulled all rooms with cshotty+mines)

[jade gate]

well i mean if you're good at the game

i bought it yesterday and im trying to get better

first level was ok but the second feels hard with two new players and two bots

but we are getting there

was at 11/12 ids

[vague bridge]

r1b1 is easier than a1 though

[jade gate]

well maybe

one problem we have is that we're always out of resources

but i guess termnal are for that

[vague bridge]

are you waking up a lot of rooms?

[jade gate]

just havent got acutomed to them yet

[civic wave]

yeah, terminals to find resources and proper resource utilisation are the main things

[jade gate]

not really stealth is mostly doable

but when we go loud we just cant manage

probably just bad in aiming or smt

but i wont give up

[vague bridge]

what's your loadout

[jade gate]

mm cant remeber

the hel revolver i thonk

and a assault rifle on the second slot

regular turret

and knife gang

[vague bridge]

assault rifle is cool

[fierce walrus]

so Hel revo, HAR, im guessing burst turret and knife?

decent

[jade gate]

i mean

i like revolvers in general

[fierce walrus]

you didnt take SMG or bullpup so thats good

[jade gate]

gravitated towards it naturally

[vague bridge]

if you're not doing good at aiming

automatics are a good pick

[jade gate]

i switch between revolver and bullpup xD

[fierce walrus]

oh god

[vague bridge]

high cal is a nice beginner friendly weapon

[jade gate]

i like the bull

[fierce walrus]

bullpup isnt very good

[jade gate]

does it suck that much?

ah i see

[fierce walrus]

it basically deals no damage

same with SMG

[jade gate]

true

[fierce walrus]

if you want a good full auto PDW is a very good one, although it is short range

[jade gate]

its like it tickles them

but

i like the sound and design

[civic wave]

bullpup deals a reasonable amount of headshot damage, very high dps

but it has an absolutely awful reload

[jade gate]

is there like a clear best one

[fierce walrus]

full autos - PDW is considered best

[jade gate]

and does it really matter

i mean is it possible with the bad ones

[vague bridge]

not in r1b1

[civic wave]

for primaries, the best are hel revo and carbine, pdw for full auto, but a lot of weapons are great

[jade gate]

(probavbly yes)

[civic wave]

and yeah you can do stuff with unoptimal loadouts, it shouldn't matter too much

[fierce walrus]

doesnt bullpup leave headless ||baby strikers||

[civic wave]

idk that's such an arbitrary measurement

doesn't every full auto do that

[jade gate]

yea i dont want to be the most efficient and allat

kinda bought it because the weapons looked and sounded awesome

[fierce walrus]

overall - most loadouts you can beat most levels with, but it will certainly be harder than with better loadouts

[vague bridge]

i wouldn't worry about efficiency until around r2 d tier

[jade gate]

i see

[fierce walrus]

i suppose R1C2 and D1 do also benefit a lot from good weapons

[jade gate]

are the rundowns from 1 to 7 harder in difficulty

[fierce walrus]

nope

[jade gate]

from low to high or??

[fierce walrus]

it depends

[civic wave]

nah, the increase isn't linear

[jade gate]

thank god

[fierce walrus]

R7 has the easiest A tier

[civic wave]

iirc dj always says it's r1 -> r3 -> r2/r6 -> r7 -> r4 -> r5 or something

order of increasing difficulty, anyway

[fierce walrus]

but then it quickly ramps up and stops beginners

[civic wave]

but it shouldn't matter too much, you can pick and choose what you want to do

[jade gate]

yea i guess

[fierce walrus]

hm i feel like this isnt exactly considering that some will have levels that will just stop people for a good while

[jade gate]

although as of now r1 is the goal

[fierce walrus]

good luck

[jade gate]

thanks

will keep at it until its done

[vague bridge]

be sure to give bots machine guns and burst rifles by the way

unless hel revolver is better for them

[fierce walrus]

or burst rifles and revos

i always give my bots burst rifles and special revos

its fun seeing enemies just collapse in stealth

[jade gate]

will try it but my mate always looses it after the first fail and goes leeroy jenkins mode

[fierce walrus]

in what kind

[jade gate]

i have to keep a leash

[fierce walrus]

does he shoot up the rooms

or melees like crazy

[jade gate]

he just goes in to hammer them

i mean

i join him

[fierce walrus]

that isnt the worst strat tbf

as long as you manage to avoid going into giant groups

and dont run

[vague bridge]

except when you have knife

[jade gate]

naw i mean i got pretty good at kiling them stealthily but

[fierce walrus]

you should be able to manage to clear most rooms like that

[jade gate]

we do

[fierce walrus]

i mean its possible with knife...

its supposed to be best at it

[jade gate]

but we struggle on alarm doors and the big guys

all with its time tho

[fierce walrus]

alarm doors all come down to preparing for them

[jade gate]

knife gang knife gang knife gang

[vague bridge]

in my experience knife can kill like 6-8 people in a giant group

[fierce walrus]

knowing which doors to mine, where to place sentries changes alarms completely

[vague bridge]

before a guy can scream

[fierce walrus]

yeah

seems reasonable

that is

unless someone frogs up headshots and doesnt oneshot them all

i despise knife hitboxes

[vague bridge]

which is unheard of in the knife clan

[fierce walrus]

you sure about that

[jade gate]

oh wait there a knife role

[past mesa]

It really depends on cooldown

[jade gate]

how does one acquire

[past mesa]

if you cancel scream cd you can do that with all melees

If you drop the ball then they can scream after one kill

[fierce walrus]

id:customize

[jade gate]

certified knife abuser let's go

[dense leaf]

Most I've gotten is 8 too

[dense leaf]

I always aim above their head or jump into kills

[fierce walrus]

yeah

thats why bat (and hammer) are better

[dense leaf]

Nop

[craggy pier]

just hammer, anything else is a coping mechanism

[dense leaf]

Knife = more fun = more better

[fierce walrus]

STFU you objectivelly better ideas person

bat forever

[craggy pier]

hammer performs better than bat in all aspects, take this L and go back to where u belong

[fierce walrus]

im aware of all that

except

bat has better stamina usage

thus

bat forever

[dense leaf]

U bring dishonor to ur family

Bat is just support weapon

[fierce walrus]

yeah and im a bio main

[dense leaf]

Me too :3

I love bio

Bio buddies!

[fierce walrus]

bio forever

[dense leaf]

Carbine, hel rifle, bio, knife forever

[fierce walrus]

non bio users when you expect them to drop their gun and tag enemies: 🫤

[craggy pier]

carbine is based

[fierce walrus]

add PDW there

[craggy pier]

only the sweats pay attention to this

no

[fierce walrus]

yeah cause they use hammer and are sweaty from all the stam usage

[craggy pier]

yes

no one realistically keeps up with this stat

[dense leaf]

U slide cancel to save stamina, I slide cancel for fun

We r not the same

[fierce walrus]

i slide for style

i slide to be faster than my teammates

i slide to have a better angle to friendly fire them all on extract

=)

[dense leaf]

Slide and jump stealth kills add so much satisfaction

[fierce walrus]

i love drop killing scouts

its rare

but very satysfying

[craggy pier]

rarr

[dense leaf]

Drop killing

[dry pumice]

clears HCP with malicious intent

[craggy pier]

racks bucklack s870

[cold quarry]

bucklack

[craggy pier]

😂

[fierce walrus]

i bucklack

my bucklack

[floral acorn]

🤮 bucklacked all over keyboard

[craggy pier]

bucklackedtheforcenecessarytokillagiant s870

[fierce walrus]

killagiant

whats that part about

Oh

im just blind

dont mind me

[soft crater]

Slide to pump shotgun whilst dodging side ways once I stand up into another kill. We are not the same

[craggy pier]

looking at the stats of the sentries on the wiki.. burst seems to come in last for most metrics

such as DPS and total damage

are the options really that bad in comparison if their DPS and damage (and thus ammo efficiency i guess) are better?

[cold quarry]

shotgun will never get it's full damage, not even close

it aims for the head and will often miss half it's pellets

what makes burst so good is the consistency

it's always gonna be useful

[craggy pier]

what about auto

has more dps, more total ammo

both sentries are automatic

and what about the sniper too? I know it's simbiosis n stuff but it has some pretty stupid total damage and higher deeps

[cold quarry]

auto is pretty crud imo, takes forever to actually kill anything

sniper does a LOT of damage but it's massively overkill for smalls. good on bigs and even bosses though

[craggy pier]

does it not aim for headshots or something? the wiki states 5.6 sustained DPS for burst and 8 for auto sentry

8.88 actually

what gives

[neon gust]

Damn the stagger sentry takes a long time to kill?

Damn

[cold quarry]

stagger sentry throws 'worst stagger ever' asked to leave the complex

[neon gust]

That sentry thats designed to save you ammo on regular alarms that do minimal damage to stagger enemies

[craggy pier]

why does a sentry with higher damage per second than the burst sentry kill slower than it

[cold quarry]

also he asked about the auto's dps so I told him about it's killing potential

which isn't good

[craggy pier]

but why isn't it good

on paper it should be good

[neon gust]

0.87 damage

On paper sniper its the best weapon in the game

But just look at its application

Stats aew for nerds

[craggy pier]

you mean sniper turret or konig

[neon gust]

I said weapon

MANUFACTURER ALERT

Wee woo

[craggy pier]

both are weapons

dumas

[cold quarry]

I swear ive been mandela effect'd because I always called it the Konig but now in game it's the Koning PR 11

[neon gust]

No one its a tool one its an weapon

[craggy pier]

you're a tool

[neon gust]

Ok buddy

[craggy pier]

it's a sniper turret it's clearly a weapon

[neon gust]

🤓

Anyways

[lone mortar]

[craggy pier]

why is the sniper the best weapon in the game on paper anyway

[lone mortar]

get shlorp bitch

[neon gust]

Autosentry its for stagger and it also got the legacy sentry aim

[tardy ingot]

stats only give the full view if you consider them all

[lone mortar]

back then

[neon gust]

So it aims messy

[lone mortar]

it was a one click delete

with a fuck ton of ammo

[craggy pier]

isn't it still a one click delete

oh

[neon gust]

R6 had it be somehow vetter than pump shotgun

[craggy pier]

did it have that much ammo

[neon gust]

Lots of fucking ammo

[past star]

Knife is best weapon on paper

[craggy pier]

so

the auto sentry is really inaccurate then

right

[tardy ingot]

Yea

it couldnt even be accurate if it wanted to

since it staggers enemys

[craggy pier]

what, it can't shoot staggered enemies?

[lone mortar]

[past star]

HAHAHAHAHHAA FUNNY CAT

[lone mortar]

[past star]

[lone mortar]

@tardy ingot sit back and see people do the A/E tier then?

[tardy ingot]

hm?

[past star]

How many levels and what kind? And do you play all?

[lone mortar]

he 1st try and win all

[tardy ingot]

A, C, E tier

we didnt do C tier yet

you get a 20 min time window to get in n out

15 min until a surge starts in the level

[lone mortar]

and he said that he was gonna be "tryna be a newbie"

[tardy ingot]

same map for all but different enemies, ressources and alarm lengths

[tardy ingot]

We did

[lone mortar]

fake it by 2 days

[craggy pier]

maybe the autosentry can be a better choice

why kill enemy when you can just delay them

same effect

ill try it out

[ocean spindle]

its not the same effect, its just efectively a sentry that uses more tool and more ammo than a shottie or a burst one
but depends on the situation, most times just isnt super worth

[craggy pier]

grumble grumble

[tardy ingot]

why delay enemies when you can kill them

Same argument basically

[craggy pier]

because maybe it takes less resources to delay

more will spawn anyway

yaknow?

[tardy ingot]

both shoot, 1 kills 1 and another spawns you gotta

1 staggers and you still gotta kill that one

Realistically burst staggers enemies and kills a few while punching holes in a lot

those weakened guys you can finish off easily

[craggy pier]

i see

[halcyon mango]

sometimes you just see it wasting a bunch of ammo staggering a single striker while the rest of the wave runs past

[cold quarry]

Even on the surge-iest of surge alarm levels I dont see the use in auto

[soft kiln]

no multi-targeting, no penetration
stagger only 1 sleeper out of 13/25

not worth the tool usage compare to other 3

[neon gust]

Using autosentry on surges its flawed logic

Normal alarms are literally the best option for autosentry

But none of you are ready to hear that

[civic wave]

you're right

normal alarms you delay kiling them, so you further delay next wave

surge alarm you can't delay next wave really

[craggy pier]

invite me

[civic wave]

i have nothing to invite you to

[craggy pier]

to gtfo

[upper ginkgo]

He wants to r4e1 duo

[lone mortar]

omg

[craggy pier]

yeah what he said

[lone mortar]

R4E1 DUO?!!??!

REAL?

@candid widget

[craggy pier]

yeah whatever that means

[civic wave]

I don't think you'll be able to

[craggy pier]

why not]

[lone mortar]

YOU GOTTA SEE THIS TOM

[civic wave]

i'm not looking for a new duo partner

[craggy pier]

ok

[lone mortar]

you could had said itll be hard

[civic wave]

i don't think that means anything to someone who doesn't know what hard means

[craggy pier]

oh i know what hard means

[cosmic oyster]

rock

[lone mortar]

alot of new peps around here

hello to you both new comers

[craggy pier]

hi

i just got this game today its epic kinda reminds me of fortnite

[upper ginkgo]

invite me to lobby please

[cosmic oyster]

i was going to play this game but then i remembered the pain this game has caused so i loggged

[lone mortar]

Voxy waiting for invite?

Fr?

On god?

today just keeps getting weirder and weirder

[candid widget]

Yup 😄 it was fun one!

[lone mortar]

1st time playing the game wants to DUO R4E1 REAL

btw

you wana do Lockout 2 ?

[past mesa]

No you aren’t cool enough to play r6c3 with me

[candid widget]

working 😦 in 15 mins .............fxxxxxxxxxxk

[lone mortar]

i mean later on

im mimiring in 10

[past mesa]

Tom just don’t work break out of the constants of capitalism

[lone mortar]

literally woke up through the night

[candid widget]

PST 8-10 is available

[lone mortar]

if your korean time i cant catch ur time easy

[candid widget]

PST!

[lone mortar]

lemme see

[candid widget]

lol

[lone mortar]

its 15:45 to u?

[candid widget]

yup rn

[lone mortar]

aight cool

im gonna forget it 1hr later but well see

[pseudo owl]

is there a way to know if a extraction is gonna be silent or not before you start a mission or is that info available somewhere?

[craggy pier]

no

unless its an objective in which case you can

[ocean spindle]

u can search it up on like a wiki but tbh u can kinda tell but the context of the mission or just discover it by urself, thats usually very funny

[pseudo owl]

interesting thanks was thinking of doing r1c2 solo but not sure yet lol

[ocean spindle]

eh u can do a run for the funs n just check it

[soft crater]

With bots?

[ocean spindle]

i mean

sure

[soft crater]

R1C2 for beginners is pretty rough

Especially Solo

[ocean spindle]

i mean i said to go and check not to complete it

[vague bridge]

r5d2 extraction is a thing

[ocean spindle]

'ah yes been thinkin of r1c2 idk'
'oh yeah r7e1 is quite the journer'
sorry ksmdkm

had to

[vague bridge]

especially with bots both running slow and needing extra attention to not slip back through a door to meet the trio

[sturdy glen]

why would you not just turn them off

youre not fighting anything, not doing scans

[vague bridge]

the scan is slower

are there any enemies that spawn on 4/4 wave

[sturdy glen]

no

[past mesa]

when the scans are done

[sturdy glen]

theres like 2 chargers in the zones

[vague bridge]

chargers are no biggie

its the massive time expense to babysit bots

and the massive time loss if you remove them

[soft crater]

so

What if they just turn RXGC into a Demo?

or Make a Demo level

[dense leaf]

if an enemy is cfoamed and u shoot, will it still be sleeping when it unfreezes?

if u don't damage the foamed enemy

[ocean spindle]

yeh
u can gun down all the room and itll be asleep

[dense leaf]

kk thanks

[ocean spindle]

and i think it makes it pingable too

but i dont know about that

[dense leaf]

thank u

@ocean spindle

[ocean spindle]

dies

[tropic vine]

I know that you can hit an enemy with a melee weapon, foam it and then ping it

[past mesa]

I don’t think you need to hit them

For them to be pinging-able

[past mesa]

Yeah

Only way that doesn’t happen is if you close all doors going to the zone

Then you will have frozen a sleeper

[dense leaf]

Someone was doing R5C2 and I came up with a plan that I wanted to make sure worked before I told them

Extraction room

[past mesa]

Ah yeah umm idk what the plan would be

Extract is so fast it doesn’t really matter what happens

[dense leaf]

For R5C2?

[past mesa]

Yeah

[dense leaf]

||2 scouts and a mother tho....||

[past mesa]

You don’t even go through a full cycle

It could be 16 of the boss for all I care

[dense leaf]

One of them was less experienced, they had low ammo, and low health

And 2 bots

They could've gone down pretty easy

[past mesa]

yeah low health might matter let me check I think I could walk forward and no dodges on 100 solo and clear it

[dense leaf]

Plan was ||have bot put cfoam on the ground for scout to walk into. Once it does thrown cfoam name on mother and snipe second scout. Then second cfoam nade on mother to kill second scout||

[past mesa]

It would work

[dense leaf]

It WOULD'VE

If she shot the walking scout first

Instead she melee'd frozen one lol

[past mesa]

If the others are foamed yeah

[dense leaf]

They still survived tho

||mother woke up before she could shoot||

They panicked

[native sun]

||Normally you just rush mother's birth and then sit on extract. You get out before the scout waves get there.||

[jaunty latch]

I just wacked both scouts with a bat then bum rushed the mother

[dense leaf]

They didn't wanna risk bonking. They been in the run for just under 3 hours

[tardy ingot]

oof

[dense leaf]

I figured they wouldn't reach u in time once I saw how long the scan took

[tardy ingot]

but yea, as long as you survive the birthing you can just extract

[jaunty latch]

mag dumping them with a hel shotgun helps with that

[sturdy glen]

hel shotty users stay winning

[past mesa]

okay

just tested it

you dont need to interact besides just firing c foam on the ground

if at 100%

[jaunty latch]

or just

bonk the scouts without foam

[cold quarry]

Is this r5c2's ending? tru is right

the exfil scan goes so fast, the scouts are pointless

[dense leaf]

Yaya. I didn't know how fast it went and wanted to give them the best odds at completing it

[pulsar kraken]

Is something bugged with shooters? Any time I've been trying to sneak I can hear one getting agitated and stop, have time to slowly turn, and it just pisses off anyways

[craggy pier]

desync?

[pulsar kraken]

I thought that too, but it's been happening so consistantly

[vague bridge]

is your light on?

[craggy pier]

u playing with people?

[dense leaf]

Also r u hosting?

[pulsar kraken]

No, my light is not on, and I am not hosting

[ocean spindle]

desync tbh if its weird, can make it happen consistently, or maybe theres just been kinda a bad reach cause some enemies stop pulsin after a lil bit but are still glowin, or maybs one of ur teammates woke a couple and u woke a couple so it seems wierd

it couldve been a lot of stuff dependin on like how many times it happened

[craggy pier]

desync tbh if its weird, can make it happen consistently, or maybe theres just been kinda a bad reach cause some enemies stop pulsin after a lil bit but are still glowin, or maybs one of ur teammates woke a couple and u woke a couple so it seems wierd
it couldve been a lot of stuff dependin on like how many times it happened

[ocean spindle]

so me bestie

[craggy pier]

[soft crater]

Client/host flashlight desync

?

This can be mitigated by switching your gear iirc

I've grown the habit of doing it before pushing for melees

If I'm client

[pseudo owl]

yo anyone mind helping awnser a few questions were doing a r1a1 run and at the end of the round there were probably over 10 giants, snatchers, big shooters among other and chargers all just sitting at spawn anyone know why this happened?

[craggy pier]

cheater

someone in your lobby spawned them

[celest aurora]

lmaoo

[pseudo owl]

well that makes sense were pretty certain it was somebody named elizebert on here it was only R1A1 so no big deal but definitely screwed the run for us

[craggy pier]

if u have proof report them to @uneven gulch

but yeah it really sucks to have such low lifers

[twin kite]

I want to rebind scrolling but the game does not let you. Can I go into the game files and modify the controls this way? I did the same for Cyberpunk 2077 but don't know if it's possible for this game.

[native sun]

@tepid sand How did you do your rebind stuff?

[tepid sand]

It should be right in the settings

At least that's what I did to switch melee from C

[native sun]

Someone wants to rebind scroll, I wasn't sure if you'd done something like that

[tepid sand]

Nah, not to scroll wheel

[native sun]

@twin kite You might be able to do it by messing with the game's config files, but I don't know of anyone who'd know how

[whole grove]

Can a hacker reduce the amount of security scans required at a door? e.g. class 5 to class 2

[fierce walrus]

i doubt it?

[jaunty latch]

what level

[whole grove]

any door; not intended to be reduced by any means

[past mesa]

I guess it would be a fairly advanced mod

[past mesa]

Yeah there be methods I can think of

[jaunty latch]

I have no idea then just some r7 doors can be made easier

[jagged shore]

can anyone quick lmk what levels in alt r4/r5 have the chance of dropping in with pe being impossible cause of cell spawns?

[orchid raft]

its fixed

[jagged shore]

i feel damn sure i've seen people say it still happens

[orchid raft]

if it wasnt i have only heared it happening on r4c3 pe

[past mesa]

R4c3 r5a3 bulkhead

[jagged shore]

how much are supposed to be in both, so i can list right at level start to save time?

[past mesa]

5 for r4c3

R5a3 you need to turn around and look for floating key

It spawns on 0,0 for what ever reason

Sometimes

[jagged shore]

and that's right behind drop?

[past mesa]

Yeah

[jagged shore]

okay, good info, tyvm

[past mesa]

No worries gl

[jagged shore]

don't happen to have a screenshot of the bulkhead key thing do you? that sounds so weird lol

[past mesa]

Na the guy that made the post deleted it

Nvm I found it

[jagged shore]

Gonna share it? Lol

[hidden ridge]

Not what you asked

But you can softlock yourself in some maps

Supposedly you can in r5a3 by putting a cell all the way back in main without finishing overload, at least so I've heard

[tardy ingot]

That one and r4b1 yep

[icy cave]

and R4C3PE

[tardy ingot]

you cant soft lock that intentionally by normal means

[icy cave]

there is the possibility one cell in sec does not spawn

and then you f'd

unless thats fixed, but 10C and fixes ......

[tardy ingot]

that isnt softlocking yourself tho

[icy cave]

but that was not his question tho

[tardy ingot]

.i answered this

[icy cave]

but I answered this

[soft crater]

[fierce nebula]

or did you

[soft crater]

Did you shoot the woke?

And what did it cost?

[fierce nebula]

America

[icy cave]

acceptable price

[latent cedar]

best special weapon against big chargers?

[ocean spindle]

hel rifle oneshots chargers plus overpenetrates em, so its very nice on corridors
chokemod can oneshot too but its a bit more tricky since all the pellets have to hit it and same for the normal shottie but its even worse since it has more spread
combat can stagger well enough and be useful for spammin it a bit more
aand hel gun two shots and its pretty nice for reload n stuff

[fierce walrus]

someone cant read

[ocean spindle]

ohh

[fierce walrus]

b i g c h a r g e r s

[ocean spindle]

it was edited

it said chargers

:[

[fierce walrus]

F

[ocean spindle]

but well hel rifle is still nice, u could spam hel gun and get a stagger, chokemod can have nice range on em still tho u probs will need to reload, and burst cannon cause its big dmg

others like normal shottie or combat are too short range to deal with em from a safe distance

[fierce nebula]

chokemod or sniper
wait for R6 then also Scattergun

[halcyon mango]

some paper stats to add on (context is body shots against big charger):
chokemod kills the fastest (1 mag) and has the highest effi on single target
hel gun staggers better than hel rifle (takes 2 shots), but hel gun has worse effi
burst cannon fares just a bit better than hel gun in efficiency assuming no overpen
sniper's effi is bad cuz you aren't utilizing the precision multi to full effect

[dense leaf]

Hel rifle :3

I'd recommend hel rifle over sniper. Hel rifle is much more versatile

[tardy ingot]

Choke mod and hel rifle have the same efficiency on a single target

Hel gun needs 3 shots to stagger, hel rifle 2 (unless limb breaks for either gun)

Burst cannon works well due to the high burst in combo with a quick finisher from a main gun

[halcyon mango]

"well actually" technically choke mod has .72 more dmg per refill, but anyways yeah they're pretty much tied

on paper hel gun can fire 3 shots in a second.

[ocean spindle]

for big chargers sniper wouldnt do much, its a 3 shot kill and thats the whole mag, at least hel rifle pens

[dense leaf]

Hel rifle is 3-4 too

Less ammo percentage

Sniper poopy

[sturdy glen]

it doesnt matter, its still 4 shots

🤓

[ocean spindle]

sniper cool but depends on mission :[

[dense leaf]

Nope!

[sturdy glen]

ngl

you could run 1 sniper on every single mission

and it would be worthwhile

[upper ginkgo]

yeah cause the 4th player is redundant

[hidden ridge]

BC is good against BBC

[ocean spindle]

:D

[soft crater]

Time to stack max Special damage and wield the High cal.

40 damage High cal says you must die.

[dense leaf]

Give it to Bishop. Let him reap

No prisoner left alive

[fierce walrus]

give him mines too

so he can get extra kills

not like he’ll need them but…