gtfo-related-questions

[solemn flint]

aim issue

its never the loadout issue

[modern ibex]

Shotgun and Combat Shotgun are definitely both great Specials

[craggy pier]

league of Ls players when they smash buttons and hope they are winning
(its a high skill ceilling game)

[solemn flint]

in low rank, yes but in high rank, no

in high rank its skill issue x 10

[brisk zephyr]

so should i try and get either me or one of my friends to use the sniper to take out high health enemies whilst the rest of us use shotguns?

[modern ibex]

Loadout advice is only good though if you're struggling with the weapons you're choosing. If you're not running dry on ammo and you're killing the sleepers when you hit your shots then the issue is probably somewhere else

[solemn flint]

no

try to bonk the scout

with the hammer

[brisk zephyr]

is the scout the tentacle guy?

[modern ibex]

Yeah

[brisk zephyr]

ok

[brisk zephyr]

that sounds like a great idea

[modern ibex]

If they're alerted they go into an invincibility state, after which they alert everything nearby AND call a wave

[solemn flint]

its a bit higher skill base, but it would reward more if success

espescially in later rundown/level

[brisk zephyr]

that is useful to know, we have just been shooting it when it goes blue

[solemn flint]

normally you dont shoot them

[modern ibex]

Yeah if it goes blue it's already too late, get to a good spot to hold out

You can certainly one shot them with a lot of weapons (like snipers) but that's usually a sub-optimal play since you'll still pull everything else in the room

[solemn flint]

always use hammer, try the gun to see which one fit you the most, bonk the scout

[modern ibex]

and they can be killed in stealth melee

[solemn flint]

unless you are slendo and you love bat

[brisk zephyr]

thanks for the tips

[solemn flint]

@ocean spindle do u still use bat slendo?

[modern ibex]

You bet! The initial learning curve can be kind of steep, so be sure to ask if you keep running into a specific issue (like running out of resources or struggling against specific enemies)

[fierce walrus]

bat forever

i will answer for slen

bat forever

[wintry kayak]

unless you abuse gun sound mechanics and shoot scouts without making noise😎

[modern ibex]

The last time I did that I was like "huh, the orange hit markers didn't show up, SURELY it's fine" and when I opened the rolling door the scout suddenly remembered it had been shot and screamed

[craggy pier]

[fickle raven]

SPecial-Weapon Damage ReQuirement/20
STandard-Weapon Damage ReQuirement/16

[neon gust]

🚨

[ocean spindle]

always

[fierce walrus]

bat forever

[lone mortar]

V1 from Ultrakill

Boi whadda hell boi

[lone mortar]

[solemn flint]

the man with the legend bat

[ocean spindle]

:]

[craggy pier]

mine deployer for r4e1 yay or nay

[neon gust]

yay

[craggy pier]

[neon gust]

just makes the blood door a lot easier

[civic wave]

and it's funny to blow the shit out of the tank at the end

[pulsar kraken]

Do you even need to ask that question?

[ocean spindle]

yeah

[craggy pier]

only if you are willing to enlighten me with your infinite wisdom

[pulsar kraken]

It doesn't matter who the mine kills, only that it kills
||Sorry Wheat XD||

[slow stone]

useful for tank alarm + secondary + tank door

[craggy pier]

note that im going in with 3 bots

[fierce walrus]

do it

go in with 3 bots

wipe on the first tank

[craggy pier]

i killed the first 2 tanks how bout that

[fierce walrus]

with 3 bots?

[craggy pier]

yes

[fierce walrus]

holy frog

[craggy pier]

doors

[fierce walrus]

oh

not holy frog

[craggy pier]

open door pop tumors repeat

[fierce walrus]

i thought you actually like shot it regularly

which would be quite hard with bots

[slow stone]

at least with latest better bots they actually help with tanks / mothers

[craggy pier]

i did shoot it regularly also tanks tend to lock on bots so i get behind get free tumors then it realizes im here turns around and gets blasted by bots

[craggy pier]

its a nice addition

[neon gust]

eh it just gave him the shoottwards

so theyre just laser accurate now

they always shoot at tumors

i dont know what he did tho

[craggy pier]

they shoot armor less and less

[neon gust]

they never shot armor tho

they always shoot the tumors when avalible

[craggy pier]

yeah but sometimes due to their accuracy they clip armor

now they take guaranteed tumor shots

lot smoother fighting mom/tank

[neon gust]

i mean thats just the autoaim tho

i did r4c3 yesterday and i didnt really notice anything different from like the previous patch

[craggy pier]

i circle around tank and they blast him to hell

they shoot more often now

at least that what it felt like

[visual dome]

hey guys what are some good weapons to deal with waves of chargers? both for players and for bots

I'm trying to do R3C1 solo + bots but I always die either looking for the hsu or in extraction

currently using dmr + chokemod

[hidden ridge]

For what it's worth I did that by giving bots burst cannons

and burst rifles

[solemn flint]

hel rifle

[hidden ridge]

Cant remember what I used on me hilariously enough

[solemn flint]

make waves of chargers look like a joke

[visual dome]

I always give bots revolvers, is that bad? xD

[ocean spindle]

um a bit
revos are a headshot weapon, and bots cant do those regularly, plus they are bad weapons for chargers in general

[hidden ridge]

yes, people usually do Burst Rifle and Veruta on bots

And revolver (special revolver, not hel revolver) very bad at chargers

[soft crater]

I give bots scatter gun when it comes back

[solemn flint]

hel rifle, hel gun, burst cannon

[soft crater]

😎

[dry pumice]

YES

[ocean spindle]

for ur own loadout, yeah hel rifle is nice againts chargers, tho for main u can just pretty use whatever u feel comfy with, i used a hel shottie [on r1c2 i gave up on bots on r3c1] for the stagger

[visual dome]

okok

[dry pumice]

Burst rifle + Machine Gun, the only combo.

[visual dome]

you're all giving very good advice, thank you

[dry pumice]

Maybe burst Cannon but they might kill you with it as well.

[solemn flint]

are you making the bot a sentry

[hidden ridge]

Didnt happen for me tbh

[visual dome]

red or blue machine gun

[ocean spindle]

is burst cannon bad or just ok with chargers?

[dry pumice]

The best anti charger weapons are shotguns and HEL Gun / HEL Rifle

[hidden ridge]

They were basically mauling the waves to the extraction

[soft crater]

Give Bot Woods a Sawed off and shotgun

[dry pumice]

Yes.

[hidden ridge]

They are going to drain ammo fast, though, and my experience was pre-nerf

[visual dome]

https://tenor.com/view/gtfo-gtfo-meme-hop-on-hop-on-gtfo-gif-24386978

[dry pumice]

Veruta for infinite (metaphorically) ammo, arbalist for effect.

[soft crater]

Im curious if anyone understood. You hardly ever see bot woods naturally.

[stuck elm]

HEL Rifle is pretty good bc it one shots chargers to the front. Otherwise HEL Gun isn't bad. For primary. It's more flexible. Sawed-Off one shots chargers to the front now (is that correct guys?). HEL Revo, HEL Shotty, DMR, are all decent as well.

[dry pumice]

Perfect point blank range - yes.

Which is uh...

4 meters

[soft crater]

Sawed off can. But it isn't the best weapon for chargers

[dry pumice]

A single meter past that and it will survive

[ocean spindle]

dmr for chargers?

dmr gets most of its dmg by headshots, which chargers dont have

am i missin somethin?

[sturdy glen]

its consistent for chargers

but trades some of the worst efficiency on them for it

as per usual, just take hel revo lol

[jagged shore]

meta slave

[sturdy glen]

not a slave if I decide the meta for myself

[civic wave]

Both 4 body chargers

Dmr has a bit more forgiveness because larger mag size

Both are pretty good though

[dry pumice]

DMR is 7,5 base damage. So exactly 4 bullets to kill a charger. And it has a magazine of... Was it 12?... Which means 3 charger kills if you don't miss.

[ocean spindle]

mh i see it

[dry pumice]

That more charger kills than some other mid to long range mains get.

[ocean spindle]

wouldnt ever occured to me

[hidden ridge]

But DMR doesn't pen?

[ocean spindle]

and it does have a but less total ammo

[hidden ridge]

Or your calc included pen?

[sturdy glen]

hel revo just gets more ammo BEFORE pen

it doesnt even matter

dmr just has range

[hidden ridge]

Also I'd rather have hel rev than DMR in the rest of map too tbh

[dry pumice]

Bullpup kills chargers in 17 bullets

2 kills and you can tickle the other one for 10 dmg

[hidden ridge]

...

[sturdy glen]

thats more per mag than hel revo!!!

!!!!!!

[dry pumice]

Vanilla AR kills in exactly 15. Flawless 2 kills.

[neon gust]

Burst rifles, 1 bot veruta 1 bot arbalist machine guns

for bots

for player, chokemod, pump shotgun, or any machinegun for versatility

[halcyon mango]

so once I see red, I just make a run for their back? Don't know best way to dodge licks. Usually it's hit or miss for me.

[ocean spindle]

thats not, true

hammer cant oneshot strikers anymore

it used to

but since rundown 6 thats not a thing anymore

it can oneshot shooters with a single tap

on the back of the head

[past star]

?

[ocean spindle]

but well if u wanna evade the lick it is hard and ur not gonna get it like 100% all the time, but it is just usually going around the enemy on the side

[past star]

Sir are you okay?

[ocean spindle]

wait i am stupid
i didnt specify

[past star]

Also we are taking about hel shotgun

[ocean spindle]

ah i thought u meant with the hammer-

still very unuseful to go around the enemy with the shotgun tho

if u mean that

[past star]

Usually just strafing left or right or making a circle motion around them dodges

You can get an enemy and just practice

Go in like r1a1

[past star]

To one shot it. That’s what we were talking about. Kinda useful to one shot enemies.

[ocean spindle]

with hel shottie?

u just two tap it

and its, dead most of the time

[past star]

You can one tap tho

[ocean spindle]

plus the stagger on the hel shottie will make it not attack u

[halcyon mango]

I'll try that then if I ever come up with a single one and have to use some shottie ammo

[ocean spindle]

PLUS u use hel shottie on many enemies at once

maybs i am talkin out of context, i am stupid disregard me

[past star]

And either way hel shottie is very situational. It’s why most people don’t like it because they can’t use it properly. They think you’re meant to spam it

[past star]

You’re good, I didn’t mean to sound aggressive, my b

[halcyon mango]

I've been using it 2-3 shots per second and that's been pretty nice for me

[ocean spindle]

no yeah i went back, was in that convo when they asked, u dont use hel shottie on one enemy, u rely on ur team to take care of em tho
also dont worry i am an idiot so

but like

still even eva said it

[sturdy glen]

you can spam it sadly

[ocean spindle]

u dont really, need to do that with that gun

[sturdy glen]

they just dont do that right either

[ocean spindle]

ur gonna put urself at risk of another enemy

since ur givin ur back to others

also it is, kinda meant for spammin it into a horde

even if u see 1 2 like sprinkled

u special those, or u let ur team kill em

[past star]

Not meant for spamming sadly. But like chill said you can if you do it right, but even then you’re not spamming right out of the gate

Stagger a few until you have a group then get good line ups

[ocean spindle]

yeah, i guess im thinkin more of like a situation when u spam it havin a group already in front, but if u have a couple and a horde approachin u hold em off, yeah

i guess its like, both can work

one is just a bit more careful and the other is faster

depends on the situation

[halcyon mango]

if only the reload was faster, feels like you would be able to solo clear most hordes with it

[ocean spindle]

yeah, they had to put a drawback into it, it is not super flexible either so
still solid, very solid, extremely solid

[halcyon mango]

meaty shotgun for main just feels most comfy for me since don't need to worry about ammo effi as much with most ammo going to special

[past mesa]

You can already solo clear waves with it

[halcyon mango]

under good circumstance, like when they're bunched up in a chokepoint and such. If another wave of stragglers comes up after you've already unloaded into the previous one you're kinda stuck waiting for reload or just switching to other weapon.
I've only been playing the game using it recently though so it's just from my limited experience.

[tardy ingot]

thats what your other gun is for, covering a reload if needed

hel shotty clears a ton of stuff, more than anything else if the setup is right by a faaar margin

[spark rampart]

Guys i see people crouching and running what does that do?

[winged turtle]

• running makes you go fast but fast alerts enemies
• crouch is v slow but doesn't make them start clicking if they are in sleepy phase.
• walking is king. it doesn't fast alert enemies, but lets you bonk them before they finish waking ip

[past star]

sliding saves stamina, takes longer to cap stamina but you keep speed

[ocean spindle]

if u run and then crouch u will slide

[sacred dew]

If you don't miss your shots, guns are surprisingly effective

[ocean spindle]

:O

[past star]

shut up troll

[past mesa]

What gun is the most effective to miss shots with

[halcyon mango]

high ping

[cold quarry]

you just wait 'til they add ricochet

then the optimal strat will be to shoot the walls behind enemies so the bullets bounce into their occiputs

[sacred dew]

Sniper, loudest weapon in the game. Can intimidate enemies, scaring them off, allowing you to run away without getting licked and without hitting your shots

[neon gust]

Pr hitfire

[civic wave]

autopistol because if you hit anything you stagger, if you miss everything you don't affect your ttk

[narrow atlas]

so if im a beginner and NA which would be better for matchmaking

just dont wanna post in wrong thing

[neon gust]

Lfg begginers

[narrow atlas]

ok thanks do i need a chat already or can i post ltf1 for it

total noob for the game sorry

only seen some videos and saw its very challenging and i need a serious challenge

[mossy dragon]

how do you get the little gtfo logo when u post a game link

[jaunty tapir]

Check the pinned comment in the beginner lfg

[fierce nebula]

since when, or you talking about modded

[craggy pier]

modded>

[cosmic vessel]

So, apparently only four cells spawned on the map in R4A2 but there's five generators. We tried listing the cells and there's nothing else. So one of the generators is completely inaccessible and it seems like we can't complete the mission. Anyone know anything about this? Is this supposed to happen, or are we screwed?

[ocean spindle]

there is i think, some paths u dont need to go through, specially in the secondary
make ur path, u dont need every generator in the map, i think u can do it with 4, its been a while since ive played the level tbh

but i think u only need those 4 for a PE run

[cosmic vessel]

We did the secondary mission, completed it, and now we need to go to Zone 46 to finish the main objective, but we need a cell for the generator, which doesn't exist as far as we can tell.

[past mesa]

Oh you soft locked yourself

[ocean spindle]

im tryin to remember the level, ik u can but, how

[past mesa]

You should do main first

[ocean spindle]

one cell in 43 with the bulkhead, and u nab the cryogenic for that one, and one cell in the 44, which i think is alarmed, for the other
and there is a cell in secondary isnt it?

[cosmic vessel]

damn, yeah, we wound up blowing ourelves up with a tripmine, figured it wasn't worth the time. I think we kinda screwed ourselves over.

[past mesa]

Expect one of the rooms in secondary doesn’t refund you

[cosmic vessel]

I believe there were two cells in the secondary

[past mesa]

So you can get locked out

If you are stupid

[ocean spindle]

did u enter a room in secondary that u didnt need?

cause then yeah

u are softlocked

[cosmic vessel]

yeah, this was our first run of the mission, and by the time we realized, it was too late.

[ocean spindle]

yeah, make sure to always query the things u need, in general, most levels u cant softlock urself as u can in this one, but u can waste a lot of resources if its an alarm door u dont need and similars

in this case is just cause secondary just, demands it being right

[cosmic vessel]

yeah, thanks for the help, kinda sucks though.

[ocean spindle]

yeah, but well there is a tiny few missions u can get softlocked like this so, hope wont happen again

and hey

now u can try overload :3

[jaunty tapir]

Any tips on dealing with scouts?

I think my biggest problem is just not being bold enough to run up when they are retracting. Not a huge deal if i wake up a few small dudes i think

[ocean spindle]

um well for some rooms u can shoot em if u feel unsafes, theres a lot of guns that can, and most from a distance, hel rifle chokemod sniper precision rifle normal shottie, even combat shottie in the back of the head with a couple shots can
and if u need like practice just dealin with em on melee, try a level like R7B1, which has kinda various scouts like startin off
u dont need to run to a scout, u can walk up to it, and if u need a lot of practice, use spear, it gives u that range

then when u feel safe with spear, change to hammer back again and practice with that one

[vague bridge]

i have noticed a lot of beginner's main issue was being overly cautious

or not brave/stupid enough to just go out and give it a shot

[flint furnace]

the only way to get better at gtfo is to fuck around and find out

[cold quarry]

scouts give you a borderline stupid amount of time once you touch a tentacle. Don't be afraid to just rush them

remember bat and knife can only kill them in the back of the head

[placid ember]

is there a weapon damage dropoff if you are far away from enemies?

[fierce walrus]

yes

[placid ember]

at what point does it start?
cuz just as an example the hel rifle deals 30.01 damage so i would like to know at which distance its still able to kill a charger scout

[fierce walrus]

It varies per weapon, gtfo wiki probably has the exact range

[placid ember]

it doesnt

[craggy pier]

it essentially has no dropoff

[placid ember]

[fierce walrus]

if its a long range weapon

expect drop off to almost never kick in

[placid ember]

is there a level with easy access to charger scouts?

i need to do some testing now

[craggy pier]

nope

actually r5d1

has one after first alarm

[placid ember]

[mossy aurora]

r7d2 but theres like 5 of them in the same room

[craggy pier]

ive completely forgot bout that one

[placid ember]

oh its been a while since i've done any r7
i thought that missions with 5 of them was in r6 XD

not sure if i will be able to get a long distance shot on them tho

[craggy pier]

r6d2 yeah

it has one

[solemn flint]

is there a place to submit the need carried form?

im too tired of getting bad pubs rng

[craggy pier]

What lvl u struggling with

[solemn flint]

a lot

r4d1, r4e1, r5e1, r5d2, r5d1

the dumb hard level

[craggy pier]

Ah

I assume you also doing optionals

[solemn flint]

yea

r4d1 cfoam throw skill issue

[craggy pier]

What region

[solemn flint]

r4e1 dumb mom wake up

[solemn flint]

asia

im on holiday so

[craggy pier]

Ah rip i cant play in that region

[solemn flint]

usually i play with pubs in north america, western europe

[craggy pier]

Can play in western but rn im not on pc

[solemn flint]

so

where do i submit the form to bread and jish and eva and ray

[craggy pier]

Ping or dm i guess?

[sterile citrus]

How in the TF can you do R7D1 with bots? After I enter INIT verify and Verify the next terminal I only have 10 seconds to return every time.

The main terminal is way further than 10 secs away if you get 195_196 zone.

[jagged shore]

largely speaking, you don't
less largely speaking, you just keep rolling for rng that gives you only terminals in the hub room

[sterile citrus]

Ya I figured screw that lol

Ill just drag my buddies through it.

Man that's sad. Ive done everything else pretty simple with bots even that wasnt that terrible.

[solemn flint]

its 1 of the few level that is not possible with bot only

[sterile citrus]

I figured after like 5 checkpoint resets.

Not RNGing all the terminals to hit 194. Screw that.

[tardy ingot]

it is, its just rng heavy (or kiting heavy)

or both

[tardy ingot]

tbh bots were never meant as a replacement for a team to clear the game, just to make no party runs more feasable for newer players and vets alike

[icy cave]

Only R6DX, R4E1 and R7E1 were never managed. R7D1 is possible but really shows why this game is not meant for bot teams.

[craggy pier]

after some testing i found out that r4e1 main is in fact doable

[solemn flint]

so you really need perfect rng for r7d1?

[craggy pier]

you can sustain up to 6 fails

[solemn flint]

thats a bit more than i expect

but still the chance for it is kidna low

[craggy pier]

yeah but nothing to worry about

you got enough resources

u can even try to lower the class 10 to 5 but its unnecessary

[solemn flint]

funny enough after so many gtfo run a class 10 is really normal

a class 10 with a long funnel point with only charger? hel rifle make it look like a joke

[craggy pier]

people struggled with that one

when hel rifle was rundown specific

[tawdry warren]

b

[soft crater]

Rundown specifics just make certain levels way easier than they used to be. But people are suckers and just want all weapons available and call the rundown specific connoisseurs Elitist or some shit.

When it's really just because devs couldn't make a system able to support separate weapon sets for multiple rundowns at the same time.

So they just threw everything to be availabile at all times regardless of rundown.

[dry pumice]

Understandable, but still.

[candid brook]

this is a bit of a stretch, but i'd prefer if the weapons weren't all unlocked and you had progression, but that you could mod weapons to a degree, or that the unlocked gear had little perks associated with it

[dry pumice]

Too much work

[ocean spindle]

too much to balance sadly

[neon gust]

It literally makes no difference sincr people would just use the meta of that rundown

Might as well just use all weapons

For more variety

Weapon customization gone but not forgotten

😭

[candid brook]

not if the mods have trade offs

for sake of argument, say you had a suppressor, it does X but the trade off is you have 10% less ammo

[ocean spindle]

tbh a supressor already is kinda broken

[soft crater]

People have been asking for suppressors since early access and have been denied every single time (unless you play modded)

Even then suppressors in modded just decrease the gun's aggro range. So you can't just be completely silent and right next to a bunch of sleepers shooting them.

(At least from the ones I've tried)

[neon gust]

i wasnt talking about mods but ok

also supressor are ass

The unique aspect of gtfo its is stealth

and how risky it can be

if i can shoot every striker from a distance then it removes that

so i dont want that

would be nice to have a more stealth tool oriented

since we already have a bunch of tools that are action oriented

cfoam doesnt count

[stuck elm]

Which is why we need to go in the other direction.
Grenade Launcher for R8.

[neon gust]

nuke modification

[stuck elm]

I actually think if they added a GL and it was like really low ammo like sniper and did less damage than mine explosions, it wouldn't be as far-fetched.

[vague bridge]

#faq

[ocean spindle]

ah yeah the famous gocket launcher

[hidden ridge]

And they do not work like the videogames or movies think they work

[neon gust]

yea and

[hidden ridge]

Unless you shoot at sleepers from a decent distance and have flash guard

But whatever

[neon gust]

lets not apply realism to a videogame

it always revolves in aguments that are just stupid

that have nothing to do with game balance

just look at tarkov

many "realism" bros there confusing a game where you inject yourself with magic juice that prevents bleeding and heals a 12 shots of 45 acp

[hidden ridge]

I'll be sincere there's a couple of things that would break game balance a bit, but it's dumb not to have them like the ability to place packs in containers or to merge them

Or to place LRFs or whatever

And everytime I mention them someone goes muh balance

[neon gust]

because it is a balance issue

[hidden ridge]

As if placing a LRF means disrupting the game's balance by anything more than a negligible amount

[neon gust]

if i can just slap all ammopacks in a lockjer then it becomes quite strong

the devs always assumed you'll be using most if not all resources in a zone

if you got spare then it means your doing good already

[hidden ridge]

I legit think people that can finish a map already will be able to finish it even after you're able to do that, and viceversa for people that struggle

[neon gust]

thats why bots automatically grab resources and use them if your below 80% wich is a high ass treshold

[hidden ridge]

The only sane argument is avoiding people that go around trying to move all shit from 4 zones away or something like that

[neon gust]

people who struggle will struggle regardless

jusut look at people on r1c1

1 guy say he wanted to move the resources on the reactor room

while you have literally the perfect chokepoint 1 room away

that mechanic will make people focus on the wrong things

[hidden ridge]

I dont think it's that big of an issue really.

[neon gust]

theyll be more worried about where to put the resources rather than actually worrying about the situation theyre in

[hidden ridge]

It's like checkpoints, if people want to destroy their enjoyment let them, whatever

[neon gust]

after watching a lot of new people play i say it will

[hidden ridge]

And tbh I doubt what you say applies to many maps, bd

[stuck elm]

Forgot about that, lel.

[hidden ridge]

Most reactors have you run around because timer and only open sec doors AFTER the waves start

[neon gust]

checkpoints is a decition, placing resources in a locker its misleading the players

there two different things

[hidden ridge]

placing res in lockers is a decision too?

And again most reactors have you run around because timer and only open sec doors AFTER the waves start

[neon gust]

yes but its misleading

theyll worry more about where the resources are gonna be place then setting up and doing stuff

that would actually get them past the level

[stuck elm]

This is true imo, even if we as players sometimes don't like it.
I think of why they don't have a general ping function like the ping everything mod and it honestly makes sense. It's a very deliberate choice to not be able to just put a marker on something. They want you to use the compass and communicate with your team.

[neon gust]

even on non reactor levels

[neon gust]

makes biotracker useless

[stuck elm]

Yeah that too.

[hidden ridge]

I legit think that they just added the compass because modern fps UIs always have one

[hidden ridge]

?

How?

You still would need bio guy to ping

[stuck elm]

I mean yeah that could be true. It's nice to have though.

[hidden ridge]

and who's going to ping one by one?

[ocean spindle]

sleepin enemies tho

[hidden ridge]

And you need a bio

"Makes bio useless"--->You need bio guy to tell you where enemies are so he can ping---> bio guy exists so he has a bio so bio isn't useless?

[harsh wadi]

Anyone get really low frames? ive went through all my settings andd checked my drivers, updated them, went through so many different youtube tutorials, but i have like 20 frames in gtfo, keep in mind i get 240 on gta5 at max settings

[neon gust]

no one its saying that

the hell

lmao

makes biotracker useless since you can literally just ping enemies and their location during stealth

[hidden ridge]

But I need to see them?

[neon gust]

wich is like 50% of biotracker value

[hidden ridge]

Ah you mean like

Wait

[neon gust]

your just putting words in my mouth

so your stupiud

[hidden ridge]

no

[ocean spindle]

stupiud

[hidden ridge]

^^^

[neon gust]

that 50% of biotracker value gone from 1 single

[hidden ridge]

Let me understand

[neon gust]

it is useless

[hidden ridge]

For ping

[ocean spindle]

idk if its more insultin sayin stupiud or stupid

[hidden ridge]

you mean like ping an enemy and shows the silhouette

[neon gust]

you gonna have a niche for shadows

[hidden ridge]

and shit like that?

Or just ping a position and shows the pointer?

[neon gust]

do you even know what the ping everything does?

[hidden ridge]

I dont use mods

[neon gust]

bruh

[ocean spindle]

it does the thing in games where u can just, ping a point in the floor and mark its location

[hidden ridge]

Tell me what you mean with pinging enemies, bd

[neon gust]

like pinging a door

[ocean spindle]

no matter is theres nothin there

[hidden ridge]

cause when I see people pinging the ground

[neon gust]

but everywhere

[hidden ridge]

it's literally just a pointer

[ocean spindle]

i think with the mod u can ping enemies, but it just appears as a pointer, as like when u ping a door it shows the door icon, u ping an enemy and a triangle appears like there

when they asleep

[hidden ridge]

Just make it so that it pings position and doesn't stop at enemies

So you cant abuse that

[neon gust]

You can ping everything within a 25 meter radious same as door pinging and such

[hidden ridge]

Yeah that could be abused but that's not what I was talking about

[neon gust]

but it removes biotracker stealth ability

its gonna have a niche on shadows during loud segments

yeah some dark levels here and there

[hidden ridge]

If you're able to actually ping enemies and you can spam it, like to find boxes and lockers in fog/dark then yes

But that wasn't what I was talking about

[neon gust]

but at that point you might as well not bring the thing since you can honestly just funnel right

[neon gust]

thats literally the mod

[hidden ridge]

I dont know why you think I meant bringing that mod to vanilla

[ocean spindle]

i
but
huh?

[neon gust]

go to sleep beepo

🐟

[hidden ridge]

What? You cant implement something new that's in a mod without copying that mod verbatim?

[ocean spindle]

... im so confused

point is fuck the ping mod, thats how it started, sayin that it could take away from the bio

thats it

[hidden ridge]

I wasn't talking about the mod?

[dry pumice]

I love watching people talking past each other while they have a convo on different planes of existence

[hidden ridge]

Why is it unthinkable to fine-tune some feature already present in a mod so you cant abuse it?

[ocean spindle]

what? isnt this is how it all started???

with the make bio useless?

[ocean spindle]

i think u, missed this
'like the ping everything mod'

then dragon answered 'makes bio useless'

and then u said 'no it doesnt'

[hidden ridge]

Ok forget about the ping everything mod

I didnt read that

I just meant for a feature where you can ping the terrain

that's it

As I said here

[hidden ridge]

^^^^

[ocean spindle]

ok so just the ping can... ping, anywhere, but dont show like if u ping enemies or anythin

thats what u are like thinkin of?

[hidden ridge]

Yes terrain only

So you cant use it to see enemies in fog/shadow

[ocean spindle]

it would still make the bio person just ping where the enemy is, and kinda take away a bit of communication and like seein where some enemies are in darkness or fog

[hidden ridge]

Unless a bio tells you where they are and he pings

[ocean spindle]

yeah
i dont

idk

i think it doesnt like, add more communication, it just takes away cause now u dont have to say 'ah i see 4 enemies in the fog, they on a cluster and blabla' u just ping the four and its easier

[lunar rain]

The way I do it is I charge and walk forward towards them then tap sprint to get them to stop moving then jump and bonk them

But like everyone said it’s a confidence thing

[candid brook]

id love to be able to ping enemies

mostly for the sake of my teammates

[deep inlet]

The bioscanner does a good job of that in most cases. Use the comm's list or "Q" to notify your team of enemies.

[candid brook]

it doesnt tag stationary ones though

[past star]

That would be too easy

[deep inlet]

^

[soft crater]

Sleeping*

[spark rampart]

Im sorry if this a dumb question but how do i loose fear in doing things in this gamel(killing enemies,scout etc,) i see people cleaning rooms so fast without hesitating

[civic wave]

Practice, and learning where the limits are

Also as you increase in skill, stuff becomes less scary

[vague bridge]

over time you start to learn what you need to do, how to do it, how quick you can do it, etc.

its partly about precision

but mostly about discovering strategies and perfecting them

[wraith comet]

Hello everyone, with my team we are looking for good tips to pass R7D2! Do you recommend us to speedrun this level? Thank you!

[past mesa]

what are you having an issue with

dont speed run the level

unless you know what you are doing

[flat pecan]

we're having trouble in the cell part

we find it but its tough to bring it back to the generator because of tanks spawns etc

[past mesa]

are you choosing tank

it is one tank

[flat pecan]

we usually go in the room where there are 2 cells to increase the chance of finding it quickly

its been tank room everytime tho

[past mesa]

just do tank

where are you killing the tank

[flat pecan]

the last try we did

we got lucky on the cell spawn and we got a tank spawning from behind

[past mesa]

yeah

[flat pecan]

it was at like 13min in the level

[past mesa]

just kill the tank

just wait before getting cell

and kill it

[flat pecan]

we open door , kill tank

and then get cell ? right ?

[past mesa]

yeag

where do you hold?

[primal wind]

We also have issue with managing all the ennemies flow, what is the best way to hold ennemies .

[past mesa]

and what weapons do you have

[primal wind]

weapons : sniper dmr for shooters, 2 machine gun / hell shotgun , 1 hel shotgun combat shotgun

[past mesa]

the hel shotgun combat player

isnt gonna be doing much unless you do a mom run

so just comit to doing tank side

[mossy aurora]

Ask again where they hold

[past mesa]

where do you hold>

[primal wind]

speedrun seemed easier since we don't have to care about back ennemies

to be fair nowhere

we just kite and run ahah

[past mesa]

IT ISNT

IT IS RNG BASED

[flat pecan]

we hold until we need ammo haha

[past mesa]

you need all the correct spawns unless you get fucked

[flat pecan]

then we cowardly flee to the next room xD

[past mesa]

by chance

do you guys hold

befreo the first blood door

while getting the terminal passcode

[flat pecan]

oooh actually we don't

[primal wind]

we do but until we are overwhelmed

then we leave position

[past mesa]

okay

so it is really important

[primal wind]

we make 2 teams

one team objectives and room

[past mesa]

to not do that

[primal wind]

and 2 guys managing

[past mesa]

after the first blood door

[primal wind]

the wave

[lunar rain]

Do a 3-1 split

Is how I did it

[past mesa]

yeah and no

[past mesa]

r you guys playing right now?

[primal wind]

yes

small break

but we're gonna go back in

[flat pecan]

hence the ask for advice haha

[past mesa]

may i watch and see if you do the things that will make your life hard

I while full mute

[primal wind]

yes sure

[flat pecan]

can we discuss about loadout

hel shotgun role useless ?

[past mesa]

umm the main issue with it

is giants are a bigger issue

and you dont have tank kill

so dropping it and just getting another sniper

[flat pecan]

charger giants are trouble for us ngl

[past mesa]

hel gun sniper burst cannon

get some big anwsers in there

[civic wave]

what tools are you running?

[past mesa]

we are getting there

[neon gust]

get em

[past mesa]

they were running 2 foam mines bio

[civic wave]

oh no, 2 foam

[cold quarry]

yeah that's a fucked loadout

ideally you want at least 3 foam

[past mesa]

ideally

you want no foam unless you high rool

[cold quarry]

maybe even 4

[lunar rain]

Might not be enough foam then

[tardy ingot]

litteraly going for the speedrun loadout

[supple osprey]

Is there a way to ping consumables like fog repellers and Big flashlights?

Or list

[civic wave]

nope

gotta check shelves, but you can ping the boxes themselves and count how many you've seen to try and find some more (LIST STO E_XYZ will bring up all boxes/lockers in a zone)

[supple osprey]

Aughhhhh

[craggy pier]

Its fun playing hide n seek tho

[safe cosmos]

question... i only have the lfg-beginners group on my bar. where would it go to hide?

[floral acorn]

top left, channels & roles

[ocean spindle]

there u can also pick ur pronouns n fav melee :3

[fierce nebula]

awaiting for Azert to comment:

[ocean spindle]

no sh ill eat ur forks

[craggy pier]

do not the scout

[cold quarry]

do not!

[craggy pier]

you should eat your bananas with the peel

[limber sleet]

gtfo has cosmetics how can i get them?

[craggy pier]

by completing expeditions

[limber sleet]

interesting i just started yesterday lol so thanks 😄

[craggy pier]

any time

take a long range flashlight with you

its scary down there

[limber sleet]

that's true

[dry pumice]

You get 1 random cosmetic for every expedition you clear for the first time + an extra predetermined one for beating the whole rundown.
Secondary objectives do not award any, much unfortunately.

[limber sleet]

That sounds cool and damn

[ocean spindle]

ksks 'that sounds cool and not!'
sorry had to :3

[soft crater]

I love how the wiki states "allegedly" secondary / overload also gave cosmetic rewards

Back in r6

[dry pumice]

Kek

I was there and they did.

Much annoyingly

[soft crater]

Did they realize. Secondary and overload had their own loot pools?

But now everything is just rng

And supposedly based off the wiki. The R6 Ext helm is obtainable by rng.

[outer dove]

Hi, I have a question. So I am struggling with R5E1, the last surge Alarm with only Team scans. We always die there no matter what. Is there any defensive tactic to somehow slow them down?

[dry pumice]

Abuse tools. Foam ladders. Shoot a lot.
...
Bring auto sentry?

[grand glen]

We are struggling on this one too but mostly after the alarm, we usually take 3 shotgun sentries and a biotracker, ||one sentry for each door they can spawn in||

[outer dove]

no foam?

[grand glen]

We haven't felt the need for foam since the alarm is long and the foam would not be that useful after the wave breaks the door for the first time

[outer dove]

but how do u kill the charger scout after the mom room?

[grand glen]

It's a normal scout I believe

[outer dove]

no

[grand glen]

We melee the scout and sneak the room

[outer dove]

charger

[grand glen]

Wait R5E1 omg so sorry

[dry pumice]

Yus

[grand glen]

I was confusing with R2E1 🤦‍♀️

Sorry

[past star]

Use doors and foam the last door the entire scan. When ready just close all doors, foam doors 2s rooms away like usual, then foam your big door and place mine while team starts scan. Then you can refoam on 2nd scan. It’s far but if you aim right you hit door with your foam

[outer dove]

I was thinking about that, but it is fucking rng based, we did finish the first scan and the door always blasts of after that. I didnt have even time to reach the door

[dry pumice]

The long dirt tunnel right?

[outer dove]

the room with the warden door

[dry pumice]

My lfg rng team just kinda brute forced it.

We almost wiped, but somehow recovered.

[outer dove]

did you make it?

[dry pumice]

Yep.

I don't remember any special tactics. I just shot foam absolutely everywhere.

[past star]

Your either starting scan too late or not push back spawns and using the other doors

[outer dove]

fair enough

i have to practise more I guess

[solemn flint]

u probably have never heard about cfoam ladder tech hm

[grand glen]

I used it in another level actually 😅

I was just thinking of another level ahah

[tardy ingot]

3 shotgun sentries and 3 doors ?

[grand glen]

Yeah, what's up with that?

[tardy ingot]

im confused on where (and why) youd do that :0

especially given how tool hungry they are

[cold quarry]

what's the ideal tool setup for 5E1?

my team was running mines + two bursts and bot bio

cause the shotguns got drained out way too fast on surge

[craggy pier]

you only need 1 for surge

[cold quarry]

mine foam burst?

[craggy pier]

dont think you need foam

2 burst sounds ok

u also can do 1 auto if u want to

[cold quarry]

someone up there said to foam for the entire last scan so I was curious if that was the ideal strat

[craggy pier]

you do get nades or trips for last surge

and 3 doors to work with

[cold quarry]

ahh

alright will probably stick with mines and 2 burst then

[craggy pier]

if thats the part you struggle with u can do 1 auto

[cold quarry]

nah the first surge isn't that bad

me and my team havent made it to the first alarm shutoff yet, got screwed on a scan placement for that door

and forgot to put a sentry down 😎

[craggy pier]

[ivory imp]

Is there somewhere I can find out what levels you need to solo due to hardware conflict bug(s)¿?

[cold quarry]

?

[ivory imp]

I ran into a bug where I couldn't do multiplayer for a specific rundown

[dry pumice]

Wut

[cold quarry]

really?

[ocean spindle]

r2b4?

[ivory imp]

I was told it was a weird bug with hardware conflicts between parties. I think?

Sounds familiar

[ocean spindle]

u can probs search it in #1049599987878723635
ive heard problems with AMD n stuff, but i am not sure at all

[civic wave]

for r5e1 the usual setup, whether you're running cell skip or regular, is bio + foam + mines + 1 sentry, shouldn't matter awfully much what it is (burst would be better for alarms, sniper for bigs/scouts)

[ivory imp]

Oh yeah I am on AMD

[ocean spindle]

yeah ive heard some problems with that and b4, so maybs u can find like a funky solution for it

it was a super long thread tho

[ivory imp]

I imagine the bug is eldritch and aborrent in nature so that sounds about right

[dry pumice]

Imagine using an amd

This post was written by overpriced nvidia slave

[ivory imp]

My tech is old(ish) and was inexpensive at the time

[ocean spindle]

imagine usin ur own pc
this post was written by the geforce now dudes

[ivory imp]

Also has gotten me this far!

[ocean spindle]

nice

:]

[ivory imp]

Oh also is the point you need to hit on normal scouts the back of the head or the nape of the neck?

Melee wise

[civic wave]

Hammer and Spear will full charge to the head
Bat and Knife will full charge to the back of the head

[craggy pier]

no that can count as back only and screw you up

[dry pumice]

Aim for top pixels of head

Minimise miss chance

[ivory imp]

Mm fair enough

Too many charger kills smh

[cold quarry]

yeah i wouldn't aim for neck ideally

there is no neck hitbox

[ivory imp]

[light kestrel]

R4A2, R4B3 maybe don't remember, R4C3, and R5D1 are the ones that don't work with my amd CPU. If you have an amd fx-83xx, i can run those levels with you

[ivory imp]

Fair enough, thanks for the heads up and offer. Don't think I have that? It would be the graphics card no?

[light kestrel]

Could be a separate issue. Mine is definitely the cpu dependent checksum differing on those levels.

[craggy pier]

@cold quarry where did u say u place mines for warden door for tank?

[cold quarry]

5th notch up

I do 4 on each side

[craggy pier]

starting from the bottom?

[cold quarry]

yeah

[craggy pier]

ok

[hidden ridge]

bug with specific AMD FX-8xxx CPUs IIRC

R4A2, R2B4 and I also think a couple others

#1050473304911257722 message

[jaunty tapir]

Is the knife totally useless outside its slightly better charge up rate than the bat?

[winged turtle]

correct.

[craggy pier]

Knife delusionals will say it's great

[jaunty tapir]

it sure is fun to stab and pop heads

[craggy pier]

True but you make giants, scouts harder to kill

[jaunty tapir]

I found the quicker charge time useful on one mission with the constant waves of small dudes. Cant see it being usefull outside that specific senario

[lunar rain]

What is the level with the lowest completion rate?

[craggy pier]

Think it's r4e1

[lunar rain]

Do you know what the percent is?

[craggy pier]

Let me find it

[craggy pier]

R4e1 at 2.03%

[lunar rain]

Thank you

[craggy pier]

Any time

[hazy crater]

Where can we check completion % ?

[ocean spindle]

R2E1
it has a 0.99% completion rate according to statistics of the warden, tho it varies a bit between sources

[ocean spindle]

there's the warden twt account, but it's been inactive since R5 statistics dropped

u can find it probs seein the GTFO official twt account follows, or @GTFO_The_warden i think

[hazy crater]

I haven’t finished r2e1 either because I can’t find anyone to do r2d2 to unlock it zzzzz

[ocean spindle]

um
trick em :D KDMSKDM

[pastel owl]

Just got the game with a friend, do we start with rundown 1 or we can do any of them?

[silver fable]

any

[ocean spindle]

u can do any, but is just kinda better to start like in order since r1 as a whole is the easiest one

[civic wave]

people generally recommend starting with rundown 1

[silver fable]

having access to six (soon seven) rundowns worth of A and B tiers is great for a beginner

yes people often recommend R1 to start with, and you might be able to complete it before doing anything else

but imo laser-focusing on doing rundowns in their entirety isn't a great idea for new players

[pastel owl]

also do we need 4 players or can we get by with two

[soft crater]

Technically speaking. Yes.

2 players 2 bots can work as well

But the game will scale to 4 players always

A solo player will deal with the same difficulty a 4 man group would be dealing with

[solar terrace]

yo, how tf does checkpoints work. me and my friends suck ass and are tired of restarting every run from scratch. we remember there was checkpoints when we played on an earlier version. are they gone, bugged or need to be enabled?

[ocean spindle]

checkpoints r only in certain rundowns, specifically R7 and maybs R6 soon, the rest of the rundowns dont have em since they didnt had em before

if ur havin trouble like gettin through some missions, consider like jumpin to the next rundown and playin the A and B tiers of that one, and same thing if u get stuck at some point jump to the next one or try to complete the older levels

[solar terrace]

thanks for the help

[ocean spindle]

is oki, and of course if theres someone in ur team thats just very new make sure they do play the tutorial

cause is a bit helpful

[solar terrace]

were experienced, just bad

aswell

like 10% success rate

[ocean spindle]

fairs, i mean it just
games hard kmsdkm i didnt started much better, couldnt bet past b1 for a while
but well with time gets better, and if u ever need some advice or got a question about somethin u can always ask it here :]

[ivory imp]

If you'd like we could get two others and give D2 a go then do E1

I've done it already but I need to finish E1

[tiny gale]

The fog on r7b2, I've been using the pdw and it doesn't seem to thermal past fog

user error?

[ocean spindle]

no, the fog on thermals is generally just bad

its more for darkness n stuff

[tiny gale]

wiki says it's good for fog

does it work at all?

[craggy pier]

No and yes

[wind saffron]

I mean it's never given me a problem

[craggy pier]

You can still see in fog but close to targets

[tiny gale]

I was prob too far away

[ocean spindle]

also the fog on b2 is some of the more sense in all of gtfo

idk if it changes the looks on thermals

but maybs

[tiny gale]

yeah it's just like a wall

fun level though, my team got owned by the blood door, first time ever

had to look it up

[ocean spindle]

qwq

[tiny gale]

yeah we wiped, trying again tomorrow

[ocean spindle]

wheres the fun shouldve just gone in sayin 'ok we opening it!'

i wouldve done that ksmdkm

[craggy pier]

Swendi bad

[ocean spindle]

:[

[tiny gale]

lol looked it up after wipe, we were all shocked

[craggy pier]

That's why you always carry mines
For funny doors

[ocean spindle]

eyy nice :]

[ocean spindle]

but first time is funny cause no preps uwu

[tiny gale]

pretty funny tbh, like 40 enemies at once

[ocean spindle]

:D

[tiny gale]

I thought it was going to be one big one

[hearty adder]

My crew and I just started a level, but one of them has crashed and is totally broken. We've equipped ourselves with some nice artifacts we'd prefer not to lose if we decide to return to lobby. Will we just have to take the L and lose them if we leave?

[fierce walrus]

you can rejoin a level

and artifacts are lost i think 30 seconds after touching the ground

If your friend cannot join you can also place a bot in theit slot until they join

[vital solar]

what to type

terminal

for fog turbine query

[fierce walrus]

query fog_turbine_xxx

[fierce nebula]

query your_mom_xxx

[inland rapids]

query your_dad_xxx

[sterile citrus]

My dad left for Cigs and never came back. That may work

[vital solar]

so I need number

[sterile citrus]

List Fog_Turbine should list it

[lone mortar]

List_fog tubine

Omg its @soft crater

[soft crater]

[lone mortar]

Get shorlp

[lucid sonnet]

Are enemy spawns during alarms affected by existing enemies in the rooms of spawn or path they take? Group is unsure if clearing up to 2 rooms away (that may otherwise be unnecessary to visit) is a good idea before doing alarms.

[lone mortar]

No

Always clear b4 alarms

Much like scout waves work

Enemies in room do not affect it (i think)

[fierce nebula]

sleepers and spawns are different
unlimited sleepers but for spawns there is a cap

[lucid sonnet]

So they'll pool together then, got it

[lone mortar]

Imagine surge and there a pack of 12 running at u from behind

[soft crater]

can't I got killed by bishop who had a burst cannon

Blackmailing prick

[lone mortar]

Ah yes the beamed my ass by bishop

A classic

[sterile citrus]

Hackett fucking shot me to shit today in R7D1. I will never forgive

He damn precise with the Hel Revo when shooting you that's for sure. Misses spitter 3x times. Rails me instantly. Thanks

What's the difficulty spike b/w R7D1 and D2. D1 only took use 2 tries cause we didnt know the route to the 1st deactivation terminal . Rest wasnt bad. Are we looking to get smoked for a while?

[fierce nebula]

I'd say D2 gets a little easier

the next actual difficulty jump is E1

[soft crater]

[sterile citrus]

Word. Good to note. D1 wasnt that bad. I just had to find that route to that terminal with bots while my friends slept. Zone 197-199 is a fucking maze.

• D1 threw us for a loop cause the bugs. Terminal decided to swap SEQUENCE and CONNECTION lol. They were fucking backwards tab wasnt autofilling the correct thing.

[fierce walrus]

bugs on R7D1?

[sterile citrus]

IKR

Never woulda guessed

[fierce walrus]

i m p o s s i b l e

[sterile citrus]

Perfectly Coded.

[fierce nebula]

most put together Unity game

[tardy ingot]

D2 difficulty rly depends on if you can handle the 2nd doors well

[craggy pier]

if warden cannot find us in r7d2 then why are the enemies appearing?

isn't that like warden's way of not letting us into the mainframe?

[ocean spindle]

well not like the enemies cant tracks us either, and thats just somethin to ask like on every level when they spawn with the alarms

[craggy pier]

doesn't warden literally have enemies in containment in r7b3 secondary?

[ocean spindle]

warden has some, like in training i guess, but not all of em

otherwise levels like r2b1 or r6c3 wouldnt make sense, which, no spoils for c3, but we are a distraction for other group to do things

and if wardens on control of every enemy, they wouldnt need to do that

they can only pull the strings so much

[fierce walrus]

r5b4

same thing

[craggy pier]

yea but why even let them out of containment in the first place

[fierce walrus]

to terminate them

or test prisoners

or both

[craggy pier]

that level was cbt with bots

[ocean spindle]

wait
i am not sure about that hows the warden have enemies in r7b3 sec

like in the tp u mean?

[craggy pier]

thunderdome

you have to input a commant

release containment something

[ocean spindle]

... in r7b3 nope
u dont, input any commands

u mean the ending of r7b2?

with like the door that u need to open?

[craggy pier]

fuck

r5b3 secondaey

my mistake

[ocean spindle]

ah i havent played that one haha

[craggy pier]

its confusing sometimes

[ocean spindle]

or well not fully

[craggy pier]

secondary r5b3

"RELEASE_CONTAINMENT"

and it opens up 3 doors

releasing hybrids, giant chargers and a tank

[floral acorn]

with any luck a bunch of hybrids never wake up

[ocean spindle]

ok i just, looked it up like super fast, 'destroy biomass readings'

this doesnt me warden got em, just that like maybs it grew there, or could b the experiments that the scientifics were doin before the warden took over and everythin went to shit

cause sleepers i think were discovered before like the whole place, died

[fierce walrus]

basically

warden needs us to murder

[topaz willow]

for some reason the hit marker for shots have disappeared for me, im talking about the orange marker that appears when you hit a headshot etc. I thought maybe it was a removed feature until i saw that my friend who i play with still has it on. Is it an option i can enable in settings?

[fierce walrus]

it is in HUD i believe

you might have disabled it by accident

[jagged shore]

Are you playing with someone new hosting? Cause I think if your connection to host isn't that good then it starts getting more sporadic
But definitely check settings just in case

[soft crater]

** EACH OTHER **

[fierce walrus]

like

i dont care if he wants that

i do it anyway

if R8 ending is only one may live

i will happily gun down rest of the team

[winged turtle]

i see them when i am host, but not when i am client. unless i mod do something about it

[ivory imp]

Can I ask lore questions here or no

[craggy pier]

#gtfo-lore is the suitable place

[fierce walrus]

you can ask lore questions anywhere, but you will get diffrent answers

[past mesa]

Just a bit of advice don’t fall into the lore of this game. It is about as coherent as fanf lore but it has none of the fun character and child murder

[fierce walrus]

tbf i like this games lore

its better than fnaf lore in my opinion

[ivory imp]

Yeah I like the lore too, I think it's interesting

Is the rest of the world space basically just dead and gone or is the only major infection area the facility?

[fierce walrus]

um

basicallu majority of humanity got wiped out

We know the US government hid itself somewhere or just died

but other than a couple small bunkers/shelters are implied to exist but other than that NAM-V decimated humans

[winged turtle]

its less, "yes, and..." energy and more, "and then, and then, and then..." energy

[ivory imp]

O

Feels bad

Do we have any hint what the Warden is trying to accomplish with the facility

[fierce walrus]

as far as im concerned no

although im not 100% certain i think it was said on some log that the warden existed before the apocalypse, and gargantas collapse

[craggy pier]

how does the rundown system of this game work exactly, is every run the same?

i heard there are seperate rundowns that happen with each update

[cold quarry]

rundowns are like episodes

[fierce walrus]

rundowns are like campaigns, each one having diff levels

[fierce walrus]

that was an old system

[craggy pier]

it's still in the servers rules

[fierce walrus]

rules are old

[cold quarry]

yeah they're silly

[craggy pier]

i assumed it still worked like that

[fierce walrus]

they were supposed to change them

[craggy pier]

that's nice

so each playthrough of a mission type is not the same map?

i assume there are different types of missions

[fierce walrus]

yes

[cold quarry]

many

[fierce walrus]

every mission is unique

but obv they arent random

so R1A1 will always have the same objective, layout etc

[craggy pier]

oh

[ivory imp]

I think the only thing that changes is enemy positions no?

[fierce walrus]

Enemies and resource and boxes places will change though

and artifacts

[cold quarry]

scan positions, resources

[craggy pier]

does this game get repetitive then? If every map is the same

[fierce walrus]

Its nit

every map is unique

you have like 40 diff levels

maybe less

[tardy ingot]

70+

[craggy pier]

aha

[tardy ingot]

at least soonish

[fierce walrus]

yeah

[ivory imp]

I'm sure some folks may get bored with it but nah, it's usually not

[tardy ingot]

some of the earlier missions are very similarish but those are for beginners anyhow

and are quite quick

[cold quarry]

and even if you do get bored of the levels after beating them all

there's modded rundowns

[tardy ingot]

regarding "repetetive" even if you only clear each mission once it will take hundreds of hours

[ivory imp]

Generally speaking every run will be different

[tardy ingot]

and a lot of vets are around 2k+ hours

[fierce walrus]

oh god he said the M word

[ivory imp]

Multipass

[cold quarry]

mayonnaise

[fierce walrus]

math

[craggy pier]

matrtix cores

[fierce walrus]

marks

[soft crater]

Mommy

[ivory imp]

There it is

Grab the bat

[craggy pier]

im strongly considering buying this game because hitting things over the head with a sledgehammer just seems fun

[cold quarry]

it's fun

[fierce walrus]

There are other melees than hammer

[craggy pier]

yeah i know

[cold quarry]

but you need to A. have friends to play it with or B. be okay with getting randos in the discord

[sturdy glen]

false

hammer only melee

[craggy pier]

but hammer

like cmon

it's way cooler

[fierce walrus]

bat forever

[craggy pier]

knife is the coolest looking but the sledgehammer has that force

[tardy ingot]

game is definetly worth it if it seems like something youd enjoy

on the basis that you

1. have friends to try it with
2. are fine trying it out with randoms from this server

[ivory imp]

Keep in mind the game is also challenging

[craggy pier]

i will heavily be relying on 2

[tardy ingot]

2 works fine

[ivory imp]

So patience is key

[craggy pier]

and i do enjoy myself some hardcore brick wall headbashing

[tardy ingot]

its a bit more random (and less fun since friends usually start out at the exact same knowledge lvl(

[ivory imp]

Even failing runs gets you learning experience

[craggy pier]

how is the progression

[tardy ingot]

cosmetics only

[craggy pier]

do you just have everything and you can pick

[fierce walrus]

yes

[craggy pier]

now that is cool

[tardy ingot]

the gear you struggle on the first level with is the same you easily will be clearing the hardest with later on

meaning its all you

[craggy pier]

can you customize weapons for function?

[jaunty tapir]

Failing runs and getting a little further each time is great

[craggy pier]

like sticking a bigger mag or silencer on a thing

[tardy ingot]

nop (also no silencers)

[jaunty tapir]

None of that here

[craggy pier]

NO silencers?

[ivory imp]

No it's mostly understanding how to use what weapon and which weapons you enjoy

[tardy ingot]

weapons are loud even with them

also technically there is one

[jaunty tapir]

Silencers are future/sci-fi magic anyways

[tardy ingot]

it just (obviously) doesnt matter in this case