gtfo-related-questions

[jagged shore]

list zone_xxx yyy

[modern ibex]

Yes, you can simply call a List for the zone the terminal is in. You can only Ping items in range of the terminal, so that will only show items in range

[sterile citrus]

To start if you know the rooms are gonna be like 106-109 its good to just List U E_106 / List U E_107 List U E_108 / List U E_109. So you will know what resources are in every room before entering.

[jagged shore]

i know i'm one of the only people who care but god E_XXX looks so ugly

[fierce walrus]

it does

i don’t care if its faster than zone

Im gonna use zone_XXX

[jagged shore]

same

[sterile citrus]

If you wanna super speed thing up dont type Medipack / Ammopack / Tool Refill. You can type To thne Tab to autofill if that wasnt stated.

[fierce nebula]

it's like Elon rebranding Twitter to "X"

[jagged shore]

i'm down with U vs resources cause it's got actual utility

[sterile citrus]

AM tab for ammo ME tab for med. QU tab for Query. P tab for Ping . Li tab for List.

[modern ibex]

Golly I can't wait to log on to the internet and watch some new XVideos!

[fierce walrus]

Overall TAB will fill in missing letters, from any point if it knows what you are trying to type

[jagged shore]

yeah
tis why you gotta do LI for list
cause otherwise it's just L and you could be going for either LIST or LOGS

[sterile citrus]

Yup

And thank god for autofill for R7C2 that fucking thing is a paragraph to type.

[jagged shore]

yeah i understand using autofill for the longer commands

[craggy pier]

want my X files on the pedo ring and the pleasure island

[jagged shore]

less so for
list
and ping lol

[sterile citrus]

Ya saves 1 character. 😛

[fierce walrus]

i still am sad i cannot autofill uplinks

[sterile citrus]

Totally not worth for them

[jagged shore]

upTABvTAB i think should do it?

[fierce walrus]

I mean the uplink connect bullcrap

[jagged shore]

oh

[fierce walrus]

the dumb numbers

[jagged shore]

well how is it gonna autofill the ip address lol

[sterile citrus]

True. That'd be nice

[fierce walrus]

i don’t care. Make it hack into wardens fuckin bank account and give me the ip

[jagged shore]

you could be trying to connect to any one of ~4 billion combinations of numbers man that's just unreasonable to expect from a computer

* give or take

[balmy plaza]

too confusing lol

[sterile citrus]

The Warden is already overworked and underpaid.

[jagged shore]

yeah we kinda got off track here huh

[fierce walrus]

make biocom bluetooth connect to the terminal and give it the ip

[jagged shore]

it makes you type in codes that show up on your hud

you really think they have the technology to get anything directly from the prisoner to the terminal when they have to manually type in codes that show up within 10 millimeters of the screen? lol

[fierce walrus]

also i love the implications in this game that all alarms and security scans existed in the complex during its work

so you wanna go to that zone?

[jagged shore]

WEEWOOWEEWOOWEEWOO

[fierce walrus]

cover your ears we are gonna -

[jagged shore]

i don't think that's actually how it went lol
am no expert though

that is a very funny concept though

[fierce walrus]

i don’t think we even know

if the alarms activated as a lockdown procedure

or just always been there annoying people

(still imagine going to work on a reactor as a maintenance guy and going through an apex door which looks like a portal to hell)

[sterile citrus]

@jagged shore Got any good tips for R7C3 besides use the foam correctly. My friends started it today and damn it was a change of pace.

[jagged shore]

you're trying to turn the reactor back on and you have to run like 7 rooms off to the side down some stairs into a blazed up room

[jagged shore]

why you asking me lol i'm not a pro at this game
uhh idk yeah use foam better, get better at meleeing giants together

[sterile citrus]

Lol that's what I told them. Were on the same page then

[fierce nebula]

use LFG

[jagged shore]

a long time

use lfg

.t lfg

[fierce nebula]

t. LFG

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[fierce nebula]

FUCK

I HATE MYSELF

[sterile citrus]

I keep telling them they dont gotta wait for my hit to rehit the giants , They can all hit at once and instagib it. They need to get more coodianted

[jagged shore]

ez clap lol

[fierce nebula]

😭

[wintry kayak]

what are all the item categories in the terminal systemv

?*

there’s resources, unknown, passage/door

does anyone have a list?

Terminal as well

security is one

[fierce nebula]

they mean what their name is

[jagged shore]

identification

storage

think that's pretty much all of them

[wintry kayak]

identification?

[jagged shore]

for ids

[wintry kayak]

is that just the item type of ID?

[craggy pier]

its when you identify deeznuts

[wintry kayak]

okok

[fierce nebula]

I assume team scan

or that

[wintry kayak]

nah team scan is just passage or security

[jagged shore]

fun fact
with that
you can list F
and it'll mostly i think
just give you those and tool refills

[fierce nebula]

it's probably for IDs

[craggy pier]

it is for ids

[fierce nebula]

I should listen to myself more

[wintry kayak]

F or M

it’s for female and male

right?

that’s what I always assumed

[jagged shore]

what

[wintry kayak]

I thought ids are always ID_xxx[M/F]xxx

[jagged shore]

i don't think that's correct lol

but the F wasn't from the id name

it was from identiFication

[wintry kayak]

fair maybe it can be another letter

anyways

one of my favourites right now is list u

[jagged shore]

yeah list u is cool

[wintry kayak]

(resoUrces, Unknown, secUrity)

I just wonder what does NOT get listed

[jagged shore]

loaded into r1b1 btw
A, W, and X are all in the middle of the id things

[fierce nebula]

fog repellers

[jagged shore]

well no duh those aren't on terminals at all

[wintry kayak]

a w or x huh

hm

maybe if you query some of them

[jagged shore]

might be more, that was from one load in, dunno

[wintry kayak]

you can find a link?

[jagged shore]

i'm not gonna rn lol i think it's random

[wintry kayak]

fair

what do GLPs have as their tag

and OSIPs

and other objective items

[jagged shore]

probably unknown

[wintry kayak]

what about FRTs

[jagged shore]

is that fog repeller turbine

[wintry kayak]

that’s what they used to be called in the system back in the day right

[jagged shore]

i dunno, didn't play that long ago
i just know they're just fog_turbine_xxx now

[wintry kayak]

I remember that was the ID for it when we had to collect the one for R4C3

original

FRT_xxx

probably confused too many people

but is it unknown?

[jagged shore]

pretty sure yeah

most things are unknown

[wintry kayak]

most unknown things are relevant for the objective tho

[jagged shore]

if it doesn't have a type that comes to your mind immediately it's probably unknown

[wintry kayak]

ehh identification is a bit of an outlier to me

you’d expect those to be unknown as well

[jagged shore]

i did say "probably" :p

[wintry kayak]

fair fair

you win

[sterile citrus]

Im pretty sure for GLP mission I did List GLP. think it noted em all if I remember right.

[jagged shore]

yeah, but that's not their type, that's just their name

[sterile citrus]

Ah ya true

[wintry kayak]

as a rule of thumb there’s a good chance you will figure out all three of your objectives by listing unknown

[sterile citrus]

Ive never done unknown good to know. Pretty neat.

[wintry kayak]

and then listing just “u” will also grab any keys, bulkhead keys, bulkhead dcs and resources in the level

[jagged shore]

idk if listing U right off the bat is gonna be very helpful lol

maybe a bit but it's gonna be flooded with stuff that's not important at that moment

[wintry kayak]

listing unknown and security

just not the resources

sooo I guess

list un

list sec

[jagged shore]

sec catches sec_door

[wintry kayak]

fair

[sterile citrus]

Ya I know of list u e_ and all that just not the unknown.

[wintry kayak]

secu

list un and list secu

[jagged shore]

cells, generators, most small pickups, keys...

[wintry kayak]

because all you really need to know before starting a run is the location of keys and cells

[wintry kayak]

exactly

[sterile citrus]

^ Yup

[wintry kayak]

those are all unknown or secu

[sterile citrus]

Did R7C2 1st try with my buddeis. Fuck all those cells.

[wintry kayak]

too many cells

did you use cps?

[sterile citrus]

Great ending though holy shit what a twist.

CPS?

[jagged shore]

Checkpoints?

[wintry kayak]

CPs

[sterile citrus]

Ah no.

[wintry kayak]

yeah

oops

too lazy to type capitals

[sterile citrus]

R7c1 and c2 we did no CP's .

C3 prob not

We got fucked 1st C3 run.

[jagged shore]

As in... Prob not gonna not use checkpoints?

[sterile citrus]

Prob use them for C3 sadly.

Just cause how annoying it is.

[jagged shore]

I honestly have nearly 0 shame for using checkpoints

[sterile citrus]

We didnt even die on C1/C2 so no reason to even use the CP

[wintry kayak]

if I have one hell yes I’m taking it

and some of them are very very welcome

especially if you play tactically around them in levels where you can choose when to do them, yeah I’d say that’s fair to me

just good

😎

[jagged shore]

Yeah the first one in r7c3 honestly is so nice when trying to clear it for the first time

[sterile citrus]

Yup we reset there twice, but they are EU and Im NA so they had to go at 7pm my time.

Well try again later when we got more time . Wasnt expecting it to be that much a change since we 1st tried C1/C2.

[wintry kayak]

C3 is a tad harder

[jagged shore]

c3 is cool

[wintry kayak]

true

it’s not as much of a difficulty spike as R4C3 was

I remember being stuck on that for weeks

having already done both Ds

[forest lily]

So when it comes to levels that's just "oops all noxious fog + spitters", what's some advice to avoid spending so much time in the fog?

Trying to think of ways to actually make it fun for me and my friends aside from just pulling rooms and running through.

[latent obsidian]

Pulling rooms is the main one really, besides that will depend more on the level but thats generally a good strat

[forest lily]

Gotcha. Yeah, I figured there really wasn't much I could do more than that.

[floral acorn]

spitters hate the long range flashlight, they recede tfo.. but for fog, sometimes someone tanks it enuff to pull a door and lead them to high ground where the others are waiting without lung cancer..

r5b2 overload just called to disagree 🙂

[soft crater]

Foaming Spitters

[lone mortar]

Why foam enemies

When the “FLOOR” exists

[craggy pier]

why is there a mother scream in R3C1

when there's no mother in that level

[civic wave]

teaser for d1

plus it's funny and scares you

[craggy pier]

a mother was alr in R3B2

💀

so it's purely to make the player shit themselves

[civic wave]

Eh, there's another one so that sucks I guess

[slow stone]

High quality reference
#gtfo-media message

[latent obsidian]

don't go spoiling people tho

[soft crater]

Foaming the floor is arguably more useful and efficient than foaming spitters

What's more useless than foaming the floor and spitters.
IS FOAMING THE WALLS.

[lone mortar]

You automatically win any survival alarms

[modern ibex]

Hey man they're gonna have to resell this place eventually, might as well get it cleaned up 😏

[stark isle]

bullpup with auto sentry op

the stagger effect hits different

[lone mortar]

and then comes the resource/reload

[ocean spindle]

7% sentry

[lone mortar]

the 21 bullet left auto sentry

[cursive tartan]

are there special cosmetics for finishing a mission in prisoner efficiency?

[craggy pier]

not anymore

[soft crater]

Prisoner efficiency never had any cosmetics tied to it.

[craggy pier]

R6 had palletes for completing all secondaries / overloads in the rundown

[soft crater]

Secondaries and overload

Not prisoner efficiency

You could do main / secondary
Or main / overload and obtain the cosmetic from challenges

Prisoner efficiency itself doesn't not reward anything extra

It's just bragging rights

[soft crater]

None of those challenges were tied to getting prisoner efficiency.

[craggy pier]

ok

[cursive tartan]

does hacking skill have any correlation with the speed at which you do uplinks?

[civic wave]

nope

[past star]

R5 used to have a booster called “Terminal Use” that sped up terminal load times

Nothing now in boosters can do that

[cursive tartan]

okay thanks :)

[craggy pier]

hacking skill only increases the size of the area you have to hit to not fail the hack

[cursive tartan]

so its useless

[craggy pier]

pretty much

[past star]

Idk man hacking is pretty hard

XD

[cursive tartan]

xD

[craggy pier]

if you dont want any boosters in a level just use stuff like glowstick power or hacking skill

if you didnt get rid of them

[tardy ingot]

or just dont use any

[craggy pier]

🤓

if you have 10 shitty boosters you want to get rid of, do you delete them or use them?

[silver fable]

ignore booster menu

don't pick up rocks in levels

easy fix

[cursive tartan]

nah im a rock lover

[civic wave]

delete them

who needs boosters, game too easy even without them

[dry pumice]

Based on knowledge that humans are incapable of noticing difference below 7% - i delete any boosters of that number or lower. Burn the rest on all wnd any attempts.

[ocean spindle]

i just use em

[dry pumice]

I also delete any +regen speed. Worthless crap.

[silver fable]

if you don't use boosters, you get the consistency of going into levels with the same capabilities on successive attempts, so you can focus on improving

set yourself free

[dry pumice]

No improvements here.

Its over.

[silver fable]

artek has peaked

[dry pumice]

I returned to Team Fortress 2 recently and my inability to hit bodyshots as sniper is fucking depressing. I even miss heavies.

[craggy pier]

it's joever

[dry pumice]

Not even headshots. Bodyshots. Don't even get me started on headshots. Only super humans can do that.

[silver fable]

maybe your sens is too high

[lunar rain]

Impossible, crank that up to the max

[craggy pier]

are there any guns that shoot as fast as you click

[tardy ingot]

theres always a limit
but choke mod

[craggy pier]

anything else than choke mod

[sturdy glen]

revo kinda

[craggy pier]

So only these two

[sturdy glen]

and pistol

[lunar rain]

I wanna say pistol

Ya

[ocean spindle]

carbine, burst rifle kinda

[mossy aurora]

burst rifle definitely not

[hidden ridge]

Neither does carbine imho

[mossy aurora]

but carbine you can at least spam fast enough where its almost automatic

burst rifle has a noticeably larger delay between the bursts at max fire rate

but yeah its not the same as choke or revo at all

[balmy plaza]

whats guns do you guys use most of the time?

[craggy pier]

ar pdw veruta

[ocean spindle]

i usually pick machinepistol, ive been goin hel revo lately, machinegun, pump shottie, revo, smg...
and pdw :]

i just play whatevs i have fun with

[mossy aurora]

wtf weeb warrior now

bring back hans landa

[craggy pier]

im in my cute anime girl phase now

[mossy aurora]

👉 #general

[craggy pier]

😂 😭

[mossy aurora]

nini

[icy cave]

he is right. you've fallen again

[mossy aurora]

again?

he was previously weeb?

[icy cave]

Oh yeah

[icy cave]

one of the worst

[silver fable]

main: hel revo
special: pump, choke, hel gun, veruta

sometimes hel rifle

sometimes hel shotty with har

that's about all

under the right circumstances I could be convinced to bring combat shotty or sniper

[dry pumice]

Bullpup. Im trying. When it stops working - pistol for fun, HEL Shotgun for effect.

[soft crater]

Hel pp supremacy

[tardy ingot]

Carbine/hel revo, then hel shotty and pdw. Rarely anything else (dmr maybe)

Combat shotty/sniper, hel rifle
Choke mod, shotgun, hel gun, high cal if needed

[neon gust]

Any weapon but heavy smg and scattergun

[winged turtle]

huh
how much worse is HSMG than bullpup?

[cold quarry]

bad in different ways

[neon gust]

bullpup just have copium of people out of position

but bullpup basically low damage and a long reload

heavy smg just exist

im kidding (no im not)

low mag, and its honestly kinda redundat for primary

[past mesa]

Heavy smg isn’t bad but there exist two weapons pdw and carbine that just do what it does but better in every way

[neon gust]

you already know my stance on it

i hate reloading often

[sturdy glen]

PDW or Carbine are similar to it, but overall better stat wise

[cold quarry]

can say that about any automatic really

[neon gust]

i dunno man, even if i control my fire rate i still reload more often than any other gun

[cold quarry]

that 25rnd mag got me actin strange

[neon gust]

shit i last longer with saw off than with heavy smg

[winged turtle]

gotcha, main issue is redundancy, being weaker in role is a v common issue overall

[neon gust]

you better off just slapping a dmg booster on regular smg

[silver fable]

you said the line

[winged turtle]

i mean, i'll just put a dmg booster on a better gun

[neon gust]

thats boring

[jagged shore]

at least get some weapon variety

[silver fable]

is there a booster that gives bullpup a reload cancel

[jagged shore]

yeah but it's insane tier so we'll never see it

[neon gust]

no, but usually putting yourself at distance of the enemy helps that

🤓

[silver fable]

but other guns give distance and also reload cancel

[neon gust]

reload cancel its a crutch

join me

use bp and pr for hours

join the cult

its like scientology but with crackheads

[cold quarry]

cancel reload cancels 2023

[winged turtle]

reload canceling was on Epstein's flight logs?

[cold quarry]

yes.

[soft crater]

toggles

Now my bullpup never has to reload

:pog:

[cold quarry]

I agree with dragon though

reload cancels are cringe

[soft crater]

Use hel revo/hel gun

But you can't reload cancel

[cold quarry]

hel revolver still good without it

have basically never used the hel gun

[soft crater]

I like to imagine avid users of the guns have reload cancel as like muscle memory

Tbh

What if we just don't press R at all

[jagged shore]

only reload with auto reload

[soft crater]

You have to use the Auto-Reload function

Yeeee

[cold quarry]

sounds like a gtfo with mag-based reloads

where you just waste ammo left in the mag if you reload early

[languid glacier]

is there an E1 mission for r6?

[keen seal]

no

[cold quarry]

imagine an alt rundown that actually adds something

[languid glacier]

cringe

[ocean spindle]

has d4

[soft crater]

[lunar rain]

I like that idea

[cold quarry]

I had an idea for a hardcore mode for gtfo and that was one of them

Well, not wasting mags but swapping them ala Ready or Not / Tarkov

[strange phoenix]

is R2D2 ment to be impossable feels like everytime we get to the 5th wave they just don't stop even after the door is opened and yes i know the reactor timer but it's not that

[soft crater]

no

It is possible

[strange phoenix]

i mean i know but it feels like every time i get to the with wave with my team the whole thing just falls apart @~@

[floral acorn]

the waves will spawn as far south and north as u've opened zones to, so it'll take them a damn long time to reach reactor

just protect the terminal guy and know they be late

[dry pumice]

Yeah R2D2 is fairly brutal from what i remember

The waves are very rough, too many hybrids

Unfortunately nothing can be done. Just will have to git extra gud.

[floral acorn]

we figured a nice spot to camp out the waves, 1 room north of reactor

[dry pumice]

Have a dedicated sniper delete smalls

Hell you can probably ask someone to bring DMR + Sniper Rifle comfo and then you hold the king of the hill style place near the reactor.

[floral acorn]

one human goes up the stairs and to the ledge, pulls hybrid fire and makes em strafe-dance, sniper sentry picks them off... all the others run into the door and turn a hard 90

also to the north, a narrow sec-door funnels everything for hel-rev

[dry pumice]

There is a very coold sniping spot there where you can aim through the guard railings while pretty much completely in cover with a great sight of the stairs in reactor room that most enemies come from

Then you just click heads and GG WP

[floral acorn]

but yeah after code 5 6 reaching the reactor for entry is tricky as the room begins to fill with the waves that spawned 50 seconds ago

we took a penalty round on code 8, being far south, and biotracker tagged the wave to spawn in the southernmost point of the level

actually helped us, gave us a shitload o time to stock up for 9 and 10

[strange phoenix]

christ its impossable the 4 scout room just kills us

[lunar rain]

Have a person comfortable hitting hybrids with a sniper

And for the 4 scout room take your time, a lot of people panic since they think they don’t have a lot of time, the code should always be off to the right of the room if I am thinking of the correct room

[dry pumice]

Yeah, just take your time.

You just need to clear out the 3 scouts and then you can shoot the 4th, pull the room and get it done that way.

That's what my pub team did, even if kinda by accident and it almost wiped us

[lunar rain]

Possibly shoot one from outside the room but that can be a little sketchy

Or just trigger the scouts and hope to god that you can clear that many

[dry pumice]

Not sanwiched between a giant room full of like 20 enemies with another 4 scouts waves pushing from behind surge alarm style they wont

[soft crater]

some vet sprinting to the scout and bonking their head

[silver fable]

consider going back to earlier levels to learn to hammer-kill scouts

[soft crater]

me who has been using spear lately

[mossy aurora]

That zone will either have 4 or 5 scouts, split randomly between the two rooms. The terminal is on the left in the 2nd room or in the middle at the very top

[lunar rain]

i was thinking of a different room then

[past mesa]

Donut room

Must be

[mossy aurora]

could be, but donut room only ever has 2 scouts

[past mesa]

Yup must be mistake on the number of scouts

Code 5 is the correct code for donut as well

[ruby wasp]

It can go up to 6 scouts

[balmy plaza]

is it best to do each rundown in order (like 1 then 2,3, etc) or is it okay just to do anyone rundown whenever since you have access to all of them

im still relatively new to the game so idk if the higher number rundowns are harder, or whatever

[ocean spindle]

usually startin off like 1 2 3 is best cause u get introduced to concept more slowly, like r1 has its moments of surprising u with stuff, but r7 just keeps and keeps and addds a lot of stuff
usually is just, go in order and if u get stuck, jump to the next one

[fierce nebula]

only matters in individual levels
A = easy
E = very hard
the only exception is Rundown 1 which is easy all around, except for R1C1 which is pretty difficult

but yeah R1 -> R7 is not a bad idea, pretty good one

[balmy plaza]

wym by A and E

[fierce nebula]

[balmy plaza]

i dont understand

[balmy plaza]

also R1C1 is my next expedition dont say that lmao

scared

[ocean spindle]

:D

[ocean spindle]

also A tier, B tier...
like A1, B1, B2, C1 and so on

on rundown one theres just from A to D

but in other rundowns u will see A to E

[balmy plaza]

ah okay

so if i just jumped to like

R7A1 or whatever would that be fine lol

[ocean spindle]

i mean yes
but there will b a lot of new stuff

and some rundowns are harder than others
r7a1 is super easy, but r7b1 does like stack up the difficulty a bit, and r7c1 is funky

[balmy plaza]

yeah i was thinking about trying out the other rundowns but wasnt sure how difficult they are in comparison to what ive done in R1 lol

[ocean spindle]

u can give em a go, u will just find lots of funky stuff, specially in r7, r5 n r4

i say r5 cause is the hardest lmao :3

thats the funk

[balmy plaza]

yeah ive heard of some of the stranger enemies they look funky lol

[fierce nebula]

too bad R6 isn't out
they have some real funky enemies introduced

technically R7 has them but oh well

[craggy pier]

I think its better go finish R1 first then feel free to do other rundowns

[balmy plaza]

is R1C1 possible with bots? I assume the human player has to be the one to enter the codes while the bots hold off the waves?

[fierce nebula]

it's possible but for a new player? you can try

[silver fable]

I've been wondering if they might preview a new enemy intended for r8 in r6

[craggy pier]

Bots follow you so you have to do all the initiatives

[silver fable]

since they did the whole bringing enemies forward into earlier rundowns thing with the alts

[craggy pier]

Possibly

They also could do some lore stuff regarding New enemy

Or some objective or extra zone of sorts

[fierce nebula]

R6E1 /j

[silver fable]

I've been a proponent of the idea of rebalancing r6d4 into an e1

keep the opening the same, add a pmom to first dark zone, more surges, strip out all checkpoints, etc

[craggy pier]

What would you change to scale it UP to an E tier

[stuck elm]

Definitely doable. Triple sentry setup is prob good cause reactor. You have to scavenge resources between waves when you start to run out near reactor, but it's doable fore sure.

[silver fable]

the opening of r6d4 is e1 material imo, it just didn't keep the heat up

also r6 sniper

[craggy pier]

Yeah it kinda slows down After cube pick up

[balmy plaza]

what sentries are recommended for R1C1? I read 1 sniper and 2 burst?

[soft crater]

4 foam for memes

And reinforce the walls

[balmy plaza]

3 c foam 1 mine 😎

[craggy pier]

I think the 2nd cube TP could use a cell fetch from an alarm zone to Power up thé zone door that has thé cube
Thé alarm door should be thé one in thé first zone so it forces you to stealth thé Giants

Also for the 3rd cube Can add more enemies to blood door and an another tank?

[ocean spindle]

h how did u nailed it so fast

qwq

[craggy pier]

Last cube Can use one more zone that Can have a zone class S alarm to get to a terminal to override the cube zone

[balmy plaza]

i was looking it up and saw someone said this on reddit

"1 bio, 1 sniper sentry, 2xburst sentry.

There is a bridge with a truck on it. On that bridge, place your burst sentries. However, have them facing one another. That way they over lap and kill whatever is between them. Sniper sentry goes up there the 2nd to last security scan door is in that same room. Open all lockers and recount where the tool is. This is going to be big. Turrets do heavy lifting.

Bots are in charge of ammo and meds. Your job is to distribute tool to sentries. First 3-4 waves are easy, just shoot and clean up as best you can. After that, you should be heading out to the earlier rooms to get MORE tool packs for sentries.

Once you've weathered 8 rounds, the horde trickles in and you just run back to exit.

I did this with 3x bots and it took several tries but was able to get it working."

[ocean spindle]

a

[balmy plaza]

i havent tried r1c1 yet but it looks scary

[ocean spindle]

msdkm i was like 'oh yeah how did u get it while blind'
wasnt blind thats how skdmks

fairs

[lone mortar]

electrical sounds and engines revving up

[idle mural]

what are some of the best weapons/loadouts to use?

new player askin here

[craggy pier]

bullpup, precision rifle and shotgun sentry

[craggy pier]

Pdw ar for main
Veruta choke heavy ar for special

[fierce nebula]

assault rifle and high cal pistol

[soft crater]

definitely not any trolling here.

[idle mural]

uh

pls no tr ol

i dont know enough to know which are real

[craggy pier]

i would never troll, I am 100% real and not fake

[fierce nebula]

yeah bullpup is a gun in a loadout

[fierce nebula]

real answer, any gun is usable
just play whatever you enjoy
some levels do favor certain weapons but those are like D and E levels

[tardy ingot]

that wasnt the question tho …

[fierce nebula]

that wasn't my first answer

[tardy ingot]

Main: hel revolver (reload cancel reduces reload time a lot), carbine.
Hel shotgun is very specialized for a main but has insane dmg output. Pdw, dmr, rifle and burst rifle are also good

Special: hel gun, combat shotty, veruta. Sniper is good (obviously heavy niche)

[sturdy glen]

id recommend starting with carbine and high caliber pistol, can get more into meta later

[fierce nebula]

also for "smart people" you guys are really assuming this person isn't going to just use the one loadout forever and not touch any other gun and experiment for themselves

[tardy ingot]

„The one loadout“ when i gave at least 4 guns each

[soft crater]

hel pp supremacy

[craggy pier]

i love pp

:3

[raven owl]

Can scouts get triggered by light

[fierce walrus]

no

light will cause them to extend their tentacles

but will not alert them

[raven owl]

oh

I see, thank you

[lone mortar]

the misinformation spreads

like NAM-V it doesnt stop

[craggy pier]

Now post a cat unannounced

[craggy pier]

wasn't that changed?

[minor fractal]

No.

[craggy pier]

The More You Know!

[minor fractal]

How their animations work and some desync has been the only change in a long time, and that was in an early R6 patch.

[idle mural]

what special pairs well with the revolver?

i like it quite a bit but idk what synergizes

[stuck elm]

HEL Revo?

[idle mural]

ye

[craggy pier]

Machineguns do

hel revo + arbalist/veruta

Hel rev hel gun

[stuck elm]

It's generally considered one of the top tier primaries. It works well with most specials imo. The machineguns, HEL weapons, BC, and shotguns all pair well with it. The special slot is generally level-dependent. If going in blind, you can't go wrong with HEL Revo + HEL Gun. HEL Revo + HEL Rifle is also good if you want something that one shots Chargers or hits Giants harder. HEL Revo + BC is also pretty sweet.

Overall HEL Revo is pretty cracked and the only thing that makes it balanced would seem to be learning to aim and actually hit your shots. It doesn't have much of a sight and punishes you from spraying. If you get really good with it, it becomes one of the best primaries.

[idle mural]

awesome, cause i love it so far

between the machineguns, is there a clear winner between the two

[stuck elm]

It depends on the level. For a while I preferred Arbalist bc it hits harder. But the Veruta has the 60 round mag that can relieve pressure from huge waves getting on top of you. Levels like ||R2D2|| come to mind. If combined with the HEL Shotty, you can deal with pressure pretty efficiently.

Arbalist feels like a better Heavy AR to me personally, more general. Veruta is for lots of smalls.

[modest rock]

@shadow flower can u please send ur discord stickers. I want to download it and create stickers pack for Telegram social media.

[idle mural]

is arbalist more or less just a better heavy assault rifle

[stuck elm]

As I look at the stats it looks like it honestly, it has slightly more ammo, 10 more rounds in the mag, does more damage (5.35 vs 5.01), and more range.

I'm not an expert on weapon stats, but it feels like it's just a better heavy AR since it's most recent buff.

[idle mural]

yea thats what i was thinking

ive only been playing for a couple days and after using the heavy ar, just looking at the ammo and recoil of the arb just feels better

[minor fractal]

They're good at slightly different things. HAR is more reactive, while Arbalist is better statted.

[stuck elm]

Back in og R6, the Heavy AR was really good. It had low recoil and was one of the better special weapons. Then the recoil was increased a ton in R7 and it was pretty hard to use (even though I still actually liked it).

Since one of the alt rundowns, they reduced the recoil, so now it feels like it's in a solid place.

[stuck elm]

Yeah that's true I suppose. The charge up can be off-putting depending on the situation.

[shadow flower]

Hm, I don't know if that is possible. Some of them are community made, and I think we only asked for premission for usage on Discord.

[craggy pier]

gtfo soundtrack on steam when?

[modest rock]

I will be incredibly glad if you can get it. If not then fine

Thanks anyway

[mystic canopy]

Is it possible to headshot a giant when the head has been removed already?

Saw a video mentioning its possible because only the visual is removed, but the hitbox is still there

[civic wave]

It depends

If you directly broke the head, it's gone forever

If you broke the shoulder and it removed the visual of the head, the head hitbox will remain until it dies

[modest rock]

Where can I write my suggestions for improving the game and tell my ideas?

[fierce walrus]

thats the fun part - you can’t

[modest rock]

Okay, then I won't

[mossy aurora]

😭

[dry pumice]

You can actually

You need to write an email to them @modest rock

[modest rock]

thanks

i will do it now

[dry pumice]

[e-mail]

[modest rock]

Thank u bro ❤️

[soft crater]

Can't forget the increased RoF.

[dry pumice]

I remember that HAR... It was fine.

[soft crater]

High recoil HAR?

Or R6 HAR?

[dry pumice]

R6

The later nerf was disgusting and thankfully the sort of recalled that

But frankly I don't see why it needed nerf in the first place

Especially now that the likes of veruta and arbalist exists. Especially arbalist.

[soft crater]

The effectiveness as a almost zero recoil HAR in R6 was pretty strong imo. (Some vets would argue otherwise but meh)

Especially since it took practically zero skill to use as a low recoil heavy hitting auto special

[dry pumice]

Exactly

[soft crater]

Vs the machine guns having decent recoil

[dry pumice]

Eh, arbalist recoil is pretty much 0

The only limiting factors are spin up and reload speed

[soft crater]

I say that in the sense of how a beginner would feel it. Since the minority typically give opinions that get listened to more than our vets sometimes

I encountered someone who thought normal AR had a lot of recoil..

[soft crater]

Not wrong though.

[dry pumice]

Lol

[soft crater]

Anyone used to controlling recoil. Arby's recoil is nothing

[dry pumice]

I mean yeah, vanilla AR wiggles a lot, but not in a way that matters really

Also they might be comparing it to Bullpup

Which is pretty much a laser

[soft crater]

Most likely

I recall that guy getting upset at me telling him bullpup isn't as strong as he kept making it out to be

Same energy as the guy I met the other day who got mad at me for telling them high pulse (low stamina/yellow hp) DOES NOT drain health

[static carbon]

Can the HEL gun defuse scouts reliably? I've had times where a headshot killed it, but others where it didn't

[ocean spindle]

back of the head is a oneshot

[soft crater]

Yee

[ocean spindle]

u probs killed it those times cause u were behind it

[soft crater]

It needs back bonus

Frontal headshot doesn't do enough to kill

[static carbon]

Alright, checks out

Does shooting the head when it is hunched over from the front count as an occiput shot?

As in, you hit the back of the head from the front when the scout is crouched over

[ocean spindle]

no, u gotta be behind the enemy, its ur position WITH the enemy the one that matters, not the position OF the enemy
if u arent behind it it wont count as a back shot or back of the head shot

[static carbon]

Makes sense, thanks

Any trick to finding out which way the scout is facing? I've had them moonwalk before and I hit what I thought was the back of the head only for it to be the front

[ocean spindle]

um, shine ur light on, that doesnt affect the scouts a lot unless u like keep it in there otherwise they will just extend their feelers
try to see like the arms, how they correlate with the front
and u can also just shot em when they r tentacling... tentaciling...?

u can shoot em whenever :]

as long as u dont miss

[civic wave]

Mostly just learning the model so you can tell which way they're facing

[lone mortar]

Who said yellow hp = hp drain?

Bro must be on some good ass zaza

[soft crater]

A piece of misinformation from R6

That ngl surprised me people still thought that.

I had to tell the guy like 6 times

[lone mortar]

Bro played R2D1 and ded last on extract so it would be that

[soft crater]

It doesn't drain HP

And he said "IT DOES DRAIN IVE SEEN IT"

[lone mortar]

Bro is cheating

Report him for AOE dmg hacks

[soft crater]

Slightest confirmation of anything makes sub experienced newcomers believe misinformation

[lone mortar]

Real

[hidden ridge]

Typical

[ruby wasp]

You'd be surprised by the amount of bullshit i've heard over time

• HEL Rifle can OS giants from the front
• Knife & bat can't kill scouts
• Yellow bar drains HP (already said)
• Yellow bar makes you unable to charge your melee wep
• Shotgun can't OS chargers
• Combat shotgun can't OS small sleepers
• More enemies in a door break the door faster
• It's worth it to place exactly 9 foam balls on a door instead of charging, as charging can potentially add 1 or 2 more foam balls on the door
• Mines are affected by weakpoint multipliers

I'm probably missing some but that's pretty much what i often hear

[ocean spindle]

the foam one tho, am i gettin it wrong? i think thats true isnt it?
if u do a full charge to a door with the launcher, it shoots a bit more than its needed to fully reinforce the door

have i been misinformed

[ruby wasp]

It is true

What i'm saying is that people THINK that throwing 9 foam balls, 1 at a time, is better than simply charging and pretty much "wasting" 1 or 2 more balls

When in fact you have 10 bazillion tool refills on every map where foam is useful

Or you could eventually learn how to throw exactly 9 foam balls on a door which solves the issue

[ocean spindle]

i think i get it
like, they r newies right, they probs use foam in other places or use sentries too much or that kinda stuff, where tool refill starts being scarse along with ammo, and u hear then from someone u waste foam if u full charge it
like of course when u have like several more hours it really doesnt matter for easi-ish levels, but startin u just kinda do need every drop u can get

[ruby wasp]

It's not just about newbies in fact

I've seen people with over 800 hours still doing it

And i'm saying the opposite

I'm saying that there's no point in losing time to gain 1 or 2 foam balls

As there are a lot of tool refills on most maps

It was especially annoying on R4D2

R5C1 as well

[ocean spindle]

idk, i feel like its an odd one out in this situation, like those are all misinfo and then this one its just 'yeah its true'
like, idk, it just feels too out of place, i guess its just playstyles

tbh sounds like somethin i would do

if i choose foam ever

[ruby wasp]

It is misinformation when i hear people say "It's ALWAYS better to foam 1 ball at a time"

[neon gust]

its such a minor thing it doesnt really fucking matter

[ruby wasp]

And then when you start running maps with error alarms they suddenly wipe

[ruby wasp]

It's more of an annoyance than anything else

[neon gust]

1 bubble at a time or full charge its a small things

[ocean spindle]

that just, depends

on the map

[neon gust]

its not even misinformation, its just that you find it annoying

[ruby wasp]

Well it ain't funny when the error alarm already hits the door when bro could've just charged his foam launcher beforehand, throw everything at the door and rushed for the alarm

[neon gust]

it has no value

[ruby wasp]

I've seen enough people wipe due to such a minor thing

But yeah i agree it's more of a personal opinion on this one

[neon gust]

it is a personal opinion

and if you die due to that

then you have bigger issues

[ruby wasp]

Well, i'm not

[neon gust]

not you

[ruby wasp]

We were talking about new players here

[neon gust]

the dudes, the homeboys, the newcomers

[ruby wasp]

Aight

[tardy ingot]

using 36 blobs

Foaming 3 or 4 doors, is a massive difference lol

obviously you dont always have to do it, but being efficient when you dont know whats coming isnt a bad thing

also, mines hit weakpoints no?

[civic wave]

7 mines kill tank, each mine does 50 damage
tank has 1000hp, so each mine does at least 1000/7 = 142.9 damage
Tumours have a x3 multiplier, so you know

[hidden ridge]

One point though about foaming blob by blob is that you can gauge the foam hp

[civic wave]

heads probably not, but tumours definitely

[hidden ridge]

And get an idea of how many hits before the foam breaks and door hp gets drained

You can argue you get the same result with just spraying it in a linear pattern at the best of your abilities but eh

I'll also say that the need of gauging how much hp the foam has left is seldomly present

[soft crater]

Knife the tank

[ruby wasp]

The only exceptions are tanks, mothers & big mothers

Other than that whether a giant gets hit by a mine on the head or the foot, it doesn't matter

[ruby wasp]

It is, again, when there is little to no tool

Which is for instance true on R5D2 before reaching the 3rd code's zone

[silver fable]

this seems to just be people prioritizing the wrong thing in the moment

[ruby wasp]

Which is due to them getting used to do it that way all the time

[silver fable]

doesn't mean that people tapping out 9 blobs during a setup outside of action are doing something wrong or worthless or whatever

[ruby wasp]

I'm not saying it's wrong

as I said, it's more of an annoyance than anything else

[dry pumice]

I too agree it's a worthless endeavour. You're saving like what, 2% of the launcher? That's 1 extra door for every 10 doors cfoamed. Not worth it.

You can also just learn to not fully charge the launcher and do it at like 85% charge instead which gets things done.

[silver fable]

they got used to tapping out foam, so in a panic situation they don't know how to charge?

[ruby wasp]

It won't change the fate of the game for sure

[ruby wasp]

I've seen people like that indeed

Which is quite funny to watch

[minor fractal]

9 balls vs. 12 balls is a pretty significant reduction.

[silver fable]

I was going to say, I thought a full charge was > 10

[minor fractal]

9 balls is also not hard to do quickly unless you're unaware of the mechanics.

I'll agree that being ultra-specific with something like "3 blobs of 3" or "1 blob of 9" is ultra-cringe, and also itself bad for jank reasons.

[ruby wasp]

• I was mentioning a case where one would do a 10 or 11 ball charge
• Even if you spammed 12 ball charges, due to most mission where foam is very useful having a large amount of tool refills, i don't really get the point of doing it 1 ball at a time

[silver fable]

okay but this seems like a special kind of skill issue that probably goes far beyond foam habits

[ruby wasp]

Well the discussion was about new players

[minor fractal]

I mean, that's just players being bad at foam in general.

[ruby wasp]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[silver fable]

I don't know, it seems like an oddly specific thing among myriad things new players fuck up due to struggling with their mental stack in moments of panic

[neon gust]

The best move its not to bring foam to begging with

[soft crater]

[silver fable]

maybe this is one of those things like when I watch a teammate show up at a lock during an error alarm, then pull out their melee and charge to smash it

rather than just shooting the damn thing

[tardy ingot]

Is this a code thing?

Cuz iirc hybrids and giants can get killed by 2 mines?

[soft crater]

5 blobs of 2

[soft crater]

Personally if I'm perma foaming. I use the 3 blobs to determine the speed/ when I need to start making the next blobs of 3 since they'll break 1 blob cluster at a time.

[minor fractal]

Thaz 10, tho.

[soft crater]

That one ye

I was just memeing with that one

[minor fractal]

icic

[soft crater]

But I typically do the 3x3

[minor fractal]

I dunno, I prefer 8 + combination.

Same idea w/ a loading bar, but less opportunity for enemy clipping.

[ruby wasp]

I don't remember them being killed by 2 mines unless you have a tripmine booster

[soft crater]

Unless mines can hit head

But idk

[minor fractal]

The true deviant strat for permafoam is 8 or 9 balls flat, though.

No foam animation.

[ruby wasp]

Mines don't care about weakpoint

If they cared you could kill a hybrid with a single mine on the head as the head mult is x3

[minor fractal]

?????????

Bro, that's still wrong.

And they do care about head, at least in R3.

[soft crater]

Eva said 2 mine kill hybrid/ giant

[ruby wasp]

Nevermind it's x2

[ruby wasp]

Alt or OG ?

[minor fractal]

OG

[soft crater]

But yeah idk the details of mines

[minor fractal]

This is only possible w/ head crit.

[soft crater]

Aside from the 50 dmg

[ruby wasp]

I have some doubts about R5 and after though

I'm fairly sure they don't take weakpoints into account anymore

[minor fractal]

Also, tank 7-mine/8-mine is not possible w/out crit multi.

[ruby wasp]

And as i said earlier

[ocean spindle]

im gonna see n try if i can test it

[ruby wasp]

It's true for tanks, mothers & big mothers

For the other enemies i'm certain it's not

[soft crater]

Tank blobs are weakpoint

[minor fractal]

Fam, they are the same.

[soft crater]

[minor fractal]

There is no mechanical difference between a tank blob and a hybrid head.

Besides damage capping, I guess.

[ocean spindle]

technically if i put a mine in the back of the head of a big one it should one shot it

[ruby wasp]

Is it that hard to read ?

Saint-Funky — Today at 17:45
The only exceptions are tanks, mothers & big mothers

[ocean spindle]

since its 50 dmg x 3

[minor fractal]

You cannot get back multi on mines

[ruby wasp]

Then in theory you should be able to kill a hybrid with 2 mines

Which, afaik, is not doable now

[soft crater]

You sent that a few seconds just as I sent my message.

[ruby wasp]

Bro

It was 30 minutes ago

[soft crater]

Also well

[ocean spindle]

ok then i would need a hybrid and idk where to find an asleep one

[soft crater]

I wasnt HERE 30 minutes ago

[ocean spindle]

neverminds im not testin it :3

[ruby wasp]

I know these 3 are exceptions

Anyone who's mined a tank or a big mother knows that

[soft crater]

This however I did read wrong on my part

[past star]

What are we arguing about. I wanna join.

[soft crater]

[soft crater]

Mines hitting giant head

[ruby wasp]

Whether mines are affected by weakpoints or not, outside of mother, big mother & tank

[ocean spindle]

why do u post not misinformation in a post about misinformation

[past star]

Giant heads aren’t real

[ruby wasp]

what

[soft crater]

[ruby wasp]

R7C3

[ocean spindle]

yeah but 00 00

[ruby wasp]

Get a tool ammo booster

xd

[ocean spindle]

i dont have any qwq

...

[ruby wasp]

Skill issue

[ocean spindle]

and i wouldnt waste it for that tbh

[ocean spindle]

yeh

[past star]

Mines do care about head btw

Everything Rayalot says is correct

[ocean spindle]

mines do 4x4 about head

mines do 1996 dodge stratus about head :3

[tardy ingot]

double mines in r3d1 sometimes kill the hybrids afaik

[past star]

What is afaik

[ocean spindle]

a fuck

[past star]

I don’t get it

[polar mica]

as far as I know

is what afaik means

[past star]

Ty

Gen z nowadays and their slang

[tardy ingot]

bread you are 12 or something like that

[past star]

12in in your mom

Oh sorry you don’t get that joke let me try again

12 meters in your mom

[solemn flint]

am i just too old to understand the slang and stuff

even though im 19, its just feel like im too old

[past mesa]

Centimetre

[polar mica]

Americans be like

[past mesa]

12 meters would be ridickules

[past star]

No, centimeter would

[silver fable]

inches are the SI unit for 🍆

[left gust]

im relatively new, but how do you like discover the lore in the game? Do i have to do logs in every terminal or something?

[winged turtle]

ugh go to the #gtfo-lore channel and check out the for dummies document thats pinned. anything else is an exercise in futility

[jagged shore]

If you want to learn everything yourself then you do have to read the logs, but you only need to check terminals that have two logs on them. Every terminal (at least AFAIK) has at least one log on it, the auto Gen status one

[dry pumice]

Wiki and "for dummies" docs are your best bet.
In game lore is scattered horrifically. There's usually a terminal or two in the levels that have lore relevant information, but there's a high chance you forget about reading them, won't find the right terminal or might even be forced to risk the run because they don't give a shit about putting lore logs on terminals that you're passing by while running away from an infinite horde with a timer ticking. Good luck reading anything under those circumstances.

[winged turtle]

AHH! "ugh" was a typo, i hope it wasn't rude. the lore is harder to get into than the lore in DS1 because it has gotten removed and replaced and like 60% of the key lore was on external websites that are gone now.
95% of the logs are window dressing that are desperately out of context.

[ocean spindle]

did the santonian website died qwq

or what other external website

[craggy pier]

no

[winged turtle]

i remember @ losttyfrostty saying as much. best to check over there and double check

[ocean spindle]

n no is still there

[ruby wasp]

That sounds weird to me honestly

[past star]

It’s just based off hit box and hybrid behavior. If hybrid goes to shoot when mine is going off mines might not hit head but the other hybrids running through door have their head low still so will kill them. (Vise versa if the mine is higher)

Hopefully that makes sense

2 mines needed tho. Or just place 3 if you want to guarantee a slaughter of anything

[ruby wasp]

I get that

However the way damage is calculated with mines and weakpoints is weird to me

As in it has a gigantic AoE (with seemingly no falloff along the orthogonal axis), yet it can still figure out whether it hits a weakpoint or not even though it hits all the body of the hybrid

Unless there's some kind of damage falloff along the orthogonal axis ?

[fierce walrus]

the entire red laser of a mine is a cylinder of doom

There is no falloff

[ocean spindle]

there is some falloff

and i have proof

[dry pumice]

It exists, but it doesn't matter

[ocean spindle]

it does #gtfo-media message

:3

[fierce walrus]

thats not fall off i think

thats some odd calculation and angle thing

i think

[stable walrus]

i remember seeing some glitch where you would be stuck in the ladder animation that looked pretty funny, is it patched since then or?

[ocean spindle]

is patched
i think only like lag can make it happen, but only for a few seconds as the game updates, but maybs im bluffin :3

[past mesa]

Host migration can make it happen

Or checkpoint

[soft crater]

toggles

Oh shit my cfoam launcher won't stop spurting out foam

[orchid ravine]

The gun in this game is not a hit scan right?

[fierce walrus]

i think they are hitscan

[jagged shore]

they are hitscan
they have visual travel though

[orchid ravine]

How come when shooting meat ball you need to lead the aim

[jagged shore]

idk what you're talking about lol
i've never felt like i needed to lead shots on anything

[fierce walrus]

might be desync/lag

[craggy pier]

just use a gun that one bodyshots them

[jagged shore]

yeah the closest i can think of anything like that is there being latency and it looking like the guy dies shortly after you've shot

[tardy ingot]

Probably just how pen works vs enemies

it hits 1 part first. If that is head = crit
if not -> no crit

If it hits head after it wont do crit.

[patent gust]

Do boosters have hidden decimal values? I ran an aggressive -%6 melee damage with a muted +%6 melee damage and couldnt seem to full charge bodyshot sleepers from the front

[tardy ingot]

Hammer?

[patent gust]

yeah

[tardy ingot]

might just be how it calcs

if it does - first

100% * 0.94 = 94%
94% * 1.06 = 99,64%

[patent gust]

gotcha, ill try and test it again with a greater +% next time

[tardy ingot]

same for when you add first then subtract btw

[ruby wasp]

There are hidden decimals

if you run a 99% infection resist booster, you get 100% instead

As in the game somehow seems to round up values

[ruby wasp]

That's the weird part to me

I'd expect the AoE to not start at the place the mine is placed but rather everywhere around it

I don't know how to say it in a better way 💀

[tardy ingot]

No?
99% booster still lets you take infection, just suuuper slowly. Worked that way in r5 and r6 iirc (havent used any since then tbh)

[civic wave]

load into og r5e1 with 99% infection resist and you'll be sad, load into og r5e1 with >=100% infection resist, and you'll be cheesing the mission

[cold quarry]

infection res on that level is fuckin silly

the spaghetti code is unreal

over 100% resist and it goes DOWN when you're breathing in the fog...

[tardy ingot]

i still wanna see a video of that

cuz ive been told this

but never shown :(

[cold quarry]

i was streaming and it happened last night, but it was a friend of mine

brought like ~120% infection res (aggro and muted) and his infection ticked down to 0 while in thick fog

[tardy ingot]

the question is moreso, how do you even get infected with 100+% infection resist for it to tick down?

[cold quarry]

KDS Deep's initial 100% isn't affected

you get infected no matter what

i guess they didn't clamp the %'s, so over 100% makes it invert and reduce infection

kds deep is the only level that would apply to though I think

[mossy aurora]

dont know if this has happened to any of you guys but we also had it where after we played r5e1 when we hosted another map we dropped with infection

this was a thing for some legacy maps as well that had you start out infected

[cold quarry]

infectious fog / fog in general has some fuckin bugs around it

i would assume its somehow related to the no-fog bug

me and some friends were playing r7, died in the warp section of Chaos and when we loaded up Vault there was no fog at all

[mossy aurora]

is that r7b3

[cold quarry]

i think so

HSU + data cubes + cargo

[mossy aurora]

yeah i think there was also a noted bug there where if you wiped during the teleport part, once you reloaded from checkpoint all the fog was gone

[cold quarry]

yeah, my guess is that is the same kind of bug that brings kds deeps infection to other levels

[nova path]

has r7 received an extension?

as in, r7.5

[silver fable]

nope

launched with 10 levels

and the same optionals

[nova path]

you reckon it will get one, or 10cc will move straight to r8

[silver fable]

as far as I know there isn't a 7.5 on the roadmap

[nova path]

that’s true

[silver fable]

it'd be a surprise imo if they did a 7.5

since they moved on to the alts after it

and insinuated that r8 is the end

[nova path]

may have something to do with cyber heist

was the full team working on r7 or did they move over before

[silver fable]

I'd be pretty surprised if they wanted to deliver a small injection of extra content rather than just put out r8 and wrap up the game

[silver fable]

we have no idea

one guy theory is a bit of a community favourite for current work

they made a bunch of noise about upstaffing to 100 staff around r6-r7

[nova path]

I guess that’s good news

[silver fable]

but since we haven't seen massive feature or content enhancements to the game that you might expect if you put that many people to work on it for over a year now, it's hard to imagine that all those people were working on gtfo

I don't know, this stuff starts to feel like reading tea leaves

they could be taking external asset creation contracts for other games for tencent or someone to pay the bills for all we know

[cold quarry]

I feel like maybe 10% of those people were put on GTFO

[silver fable]

all we know is that there wasn't some massive transformative change to the game correlated with the upstaff, and at this point they've basically said gtfo is at the end of the road feature-wise and r8 ends the story

imo it doesn't make sense for them to put all those people onto gtfo anyway

[cold quarry]

no definitely not but i do think they're neglecting it

[silver fable]

game is probably way past its sales peak, definitely past its launch-window marketing hype peak

[cold quarry]

how they about to do six alt rundowns and not really use what they learned

[silver fable]

light content remasters that require little in the way of design or delivery work

for something that people have been screaming for for ages, having the old rundowns back

[soft crater]

Be like DRG

Where you can play Legacy

[past star]

ROCK

AND

STONE

https://tenor.com/view/we-are-rich-rich-deep-rock-galactic-compressed-gold-gif-24791651

[ruby wasp]

I tried it out in several missions and i wouldn't take any infection even after staying dozens of minutes within fog

It was in alt levels tho

[frigid meadow]

is there a kraken in R7 or no?

[jagged shore]

no

[ocean spindle]

nope

there's another thing

[jagged shore]

not quite as cool but yeah

[frigid meadow]

i may have already seen it

[ocean spindle]

:3

u might've seen one

[past mesa]

no squid_boss unless someone does a funny

[mystic canopy]

What's a good loadout for a bot?

[ocean spindle]

they work nicely with long range automatic guns, so like assault rifle, har machineguns,

[flint furnace]

cfoam and sniper

[ocean spindle]

i've heard burst rifle

usually high dmg weapons aren't worth since they use it on small or, miss

and on tools, a bio on a bot is magic, pings everythins

sentries are ok, pretty cool just tell em where to put em

and foam n mines are, hard to work with

in melee they behave the same so just put em with hammers, it's always the same value either way

[winged turtle]

haven't seen girl_boss yet myself. would it fit on any of the R7 maps?

[neon gust]

pss check the steam guide

[frigid meadow]

if a player is downed in an S scan will the scan still count them as in it or will you lose progress?

[plain birch]

Lose progress

[frigid meadow]

also what rundown were full room scans first seen?

[neon gust]

r5

[mossy aurora]

Bd what's ur favorite samdown map

[past mesa]

Dragon you should make a bot guide

Like how to use them and such

[lethal abyss]

which guns are good for a new player

so far I've been using thermal SMG and a high cal pistol

[neon gust]

carabine, machinegun

[dry pumice]

Pistol, Assault Rifle, Heavy Assault Rifle, any of the shotguns

[neon gust]

next

[dry pumice]

Pretty much all the most boring generic weapons

[neon gust]

panopticon

[stuck elm]

carabine

[mossy aurora]

Wtf the most basic ass reactor map.....

[neon gust]

I totally should

[lethal abyss]

I feel like carabine is just a downgrade to smg tho

[dry pumice]

It is not

It is an upgrade in fact

...i think

[neon gust]

Probably the only reactor i like

in gtfo

history

[dry pumice]

Just more reliable across the board

[mossy aurora]

You didn't like t4e2?

[dry pumice]

Let me check stats real quicjk

[sturdy glen]

carbine is better in literally every stat

except precision

[dry pumice]

SMG:
1,86 DMG per bullet
0,9 precision mult
6 meters damage drop off

Carbine:
2.38 DMG per bullet
0,74 prec mult
10 meters damage drop off

Burst fire mode does nothing to slow the gun either, you just spam the trigger like you would on a pistol

[lethal abyss]

oh

might try it out then

[past mesa]

which is mostly a useless stat cause it doesnt really help for break points

[sturdy glen]

ye

[dry pumice]

SMG is one of the weakest guns right now, it just kinda got left behind as new guns got introduced

[sturdy glen]

the massive amount more base damage makes it not matter as well

[dry pumice]

The only other main to rival it in shittines is Bullpup

At least SMG reloads quick... Bullpup literally deals same damage for double reload time. Big brain.

[lethal abyss]

which gun is your favourite

[past mesa]

sawed 4off

[dry pumice]

Much ironically bullpup even if i have to work around its' shittines.
When i'm bored - i settle for just vanilla Pistol and just hipfire heads. Hipfire accuracy on that thing is lovely.

When i want to get mean - i bring HEL Shotgun

...and occasionally forced to bring PDW

[lethal abyss]

wait

I think I mistook smg for pdw

[dry pumice]

easy mistake

[lethal abyss]

which one has thermal

[dry pumice]

Yes, that's PDW

S-tier main weapon

[lethal abyss]

yeah I use pdw then not smg

oh

[dry pumice]

Carbine probably still has higher DPS and overall versatility but PDW got that thermal and overall just equally brain dead

[sturdy glen]

pdws good then

[lethal abyss]

I kinda use it as a secondary to my pistol

[dry pumice]

That is how you're meant to use it

The game is kinda stupid design wise in some places

[lethal abyss]

and as a panic switch

[dry pumice]

your special is your ACTUAL main weapon, and the so called mains are just your "alternative reloads buttons"

[lethal abyss]

yeah thats pretty much how I used my weapons

[dry pumice]

You're using them correctly then.

Ammo economy forces you into it as well

Since you gain like 35% of special per pack and like 15-20% of main?

[lethal abyss]

I love the high cal pistol

[dry pumice]

Same

[sturdy glen]

most ppl do

[dry pumice]

I liked it more before the nerf, but its still okay

Just don't bring it into levels with chargers and you're golden

[sturdy glen]

its not widely used but most ppl like it

[lethal abyss]

I don't even know what chargers are I'm stuck on r1c1

reactor mission

[dry pumice]

Gud.

[past mesa]

it is unreal

[dry pumice]

Are you alone (with bots) or like with actual people?

[past mesa]

r1c1 hardest mission

[lethal abyss]

friends

[dry pumice]

Alright then

[sturdy glen]

at least they arent using bp and pr like normal

the full meme isnt there

[past mesa]

but it is every day

we have a new player stuck on this mission

[sturdy glen]

pdw high cal very based loadout to pick

[lethal abyss]

we usually bring 4 burst sentries and move all tool refills as close to the reactor room as possible

[dry pumice]

That is kinda the right plan except for some "buts"

[past mesa]

r u holding in the reacotr room?