#gtfo-related-questions

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ocean spindle
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underwhelmin, it doesnt have the dmg u think it has, its more for takin care of smols

fierce walrus
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mediocre, its good on scouts but kinda sucks on bigs

ocean spindle
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and slowly, since it has 8 in mag

fierce walrus
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it is basically a sniper for smalls

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since its full auto

ocean spindle
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i would take somethin either more wave concentraded, since theres a lot of enemies, or way more dmg to deal with the big people

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like a sniper

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the koning

stone rampart
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So if you could create the best weapon load out what would it be

ocean spindle
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for r1c1...

fierce walrus
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carbine

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and

ocean spindle
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a machinegun

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probs

fierce walrus
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machinegun/sniper

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for a squad prolly 2 machineguns and 2 snipers

stone rampart
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No im saying like if you had to go with a load out overall of any level

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Hypothetically if you had to choose

fierce walrus
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oh

ocean spindle
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those r hard

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theres some point ur gonna lack somethin

fierce walrus
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i would take PDW/carbine and hel gun/hel rifle

ocean spindle
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but maybs hel revo... idk, machinegun too

stone rampart
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Yeah but you have to have a go to

ocean spindle
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its hard

fierce walrus
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it greatly varies

winged turtle
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hel revo
Veruta Machine gun
i have really liked

ocean spindle
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cause those can take waves or bigs or smols

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but im lackin in other areas

stone rampart
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What the why pistol

ocean spindle
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so i adapt

winged turtle
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hel shotgun and HAR is really comfy, i have been told

fierce walrus
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and its simple

ocean spindle
fierce walrus
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but

ocean spindle
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butt

fierce walrus
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you need to you know

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aim

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with the pistol

radiant vigil
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Thanks, sent an email 👍

ocean spindle
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yeah its headshot 2 bodyshots, enemy goes down i think

winged turtle
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hel revo is a classic

ocean spindle
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pistol doesnt is not hel

fierce walrus
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hel gun is still good

ocean spindle
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hel guns great

fierce walrus
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10c will never nerf it

ocean spindle
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they did

fierce walrus
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they tried

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and failed

ocean spindle
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anyways

fierce walrus
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it can still be chain shoted

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=)

winged turtle
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nah, some people left, but some people still like it

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perfect nerf outcome

ocean spindle
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but yeah conclusion is, u never gonna have a perfect loadout

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u need to be flexible, thats very important in this game

fierce walrus
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yup

ocean spindle
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know where to grab foam, a sentry, change it for mines, grab a sniper, then a hel rifle, then a pdw, change it around...

tardy ingot
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that honestly wasnt the issue back then lol. Remember, broken ass shotgun sentry + no hybrids :>

ocean spindle
fierce walrus
tardy ingot
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that was just sniper sentry + bio symbiosis at their peak

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which isnt right now

fierce walrus
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yeah

ocean spindle
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but well much good lucks in ur runs tre

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kills those bitches

tardy ingot
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anyhow, guns rn are overall better balanced than before and they arent the most powerful theyve been all time

winged turtle
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ya, much more balanced,
because now you are allowed to bring more than 1 load out to an E mission. if you didn't bring ||BLANK|| to OG r4E1 you were throwing lol

ocean spindle
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:]

tardy ingot
winged turtle
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mis info?

tardy ingot
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og r4e1 was 4 burst cannons ez mode

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r4 sniper was bad

winged turtle
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ahh roght sniper was goated inn, R5? 6?

tardy ingot
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R6

fierce walrus
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R6

tardy ingot
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R6 sniper had 6 per refill and 18 total shots

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also got buffed to 40 base dmg

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Ridicolus gun

ocean spindle
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6 per refill what the fuck

winged turtle
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33%

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lol

tardy ingot
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yep, closer to shotgun than to current sniper

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There was never a reason to bring choke mod

craggy pier
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R6 sniper was goated

craggy pier
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is the heavy smg any good

sturdy glen
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no

past mesa
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pdw exists

ocean spindle
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so perfect for a b levels

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i just took it for r1d1 i think

past mesa
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it is perfectly workable

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just pdw has higher stats in everything but range

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and it is only +2

tardy ingot
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its weak
but all guns are useable

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you basically just make it slightly harder

craggy pier
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real mfs go spear only

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so heavy smg sucks

winged turtle
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it is one of the worst primaries, but its still useable.
game balanced

craggy pier
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Hello sexy people

ocean spindle
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u can give it a chance

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is funny

craggy pier
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I like the ummm the uhh umm the ur rifle its umm nice yuh

ocean spindle
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rifle is nice :3

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vey cool sight

dry pumice
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Much unfortunately yes - heavy SMG big stinky

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PDW is just better across the board

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Same dmg, +7 in mag, has a thermal and reload cancels itself into another dimension

ocean spindle
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what if i dont like thermal >3>

dry pumice
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Hip fire spray is so good on PDW - you dont need it. You just use it to see in pitch darkness and confirm shadow shots.

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Right now there is just no selling point to HSMG besides aesthetics.

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It could use a major damage increase. Maybe to like 2,5

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Then again... What is even Heavy Sub Machine Gun? How can a gun using low caliber bullets be heavy?

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Unless we're talking relative. Like P90

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But then PDW is already heavy so what the fuck

cold quarry
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the old .50 AE submachine gun

soft crater
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Hsmg is just a worse AR

sturdy glen
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idk bout that one

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hsmg is arguably a little better

ocean spindle
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i think comparin guns is kinda just not worth, cause its always the same conclusion, pdw is better

sturdy glen
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yeah but this is gtfo discord

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we operate under prove everyone wrong first, ask questions later

cold quarry
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all automatics fall to the one and only PDW

ocean spindle
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ill still use all the others

vague bridge
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i dont use automatics

wintry kayak
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imagine using automatics

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I have exactly two loadouts I play with

soft crater
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I use automatics.
Helpp/PR/Auto

wintry kayak
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either sawed off/hel shotty - revolver or carbine - sniper

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MGs don’t exist

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shhhh

ocean spindle
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boring

vague bridge
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theres almost always one of the revolvers in my loadout

dry pumice
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I bring bullpup to every level that allows me to get away with it

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...i haven't seen it since R5B's...

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sob

cold quarry
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took it on KDS deep for me / my friends first run of it. it deserved to be there

dry pumice
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Where's that clear picture... Give me a sec

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Oh, right

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I did beat R5E1 with it

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Would you look at that

neon gust
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skill issues

soft crater
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Hel pp supremacy on every level

vague bridge
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do baby strikers wake up rooms by screaming

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and what about mothers

ocean spindle
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babies yes mothers i would guess

vague bridge
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what about the tank

cold quarry
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if it can scream it can alert things

vague bridge
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yeah but i havent done much studying and dont know what can scream versus what cant

cold quarry
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i think every enemy in the game can

vague bridge
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okay

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thanks for being respectful and calm in answering me

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( @pine swift )

pine swift
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WHY YOU LITTLE

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OF COURSE THEY CAN

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I TOLD YOU

sturdy glen
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even flyers can

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tho tanks and moms do special animations for it

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(especially tanks)

ocean spindle
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i wonder if snatchie can, cause they nromally just scream when they far away

craggy pier
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I believe they do

winged turtle
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i actually don't think snatchers do, i think they are the only kid not invited to the screaming party

cold quarry
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they're barely ever seen in 'quiet' areas so that makes sense

vague bridge
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im correct to a degree

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lets go

past mesa
sturdy glen
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wh

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is pablos scream fake?

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mf just making noise to make noise

past mesa
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Yeah

sturdy glen
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bruh

past mesa
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Sleepers also need to target a player

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If they target bots it won’t count

craggy pier
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Why thank you for exposing my cheats

dusky tiger
craggy pier
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Bullpup and chargers

wintry kayak
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but eh it feels like it has infinite ammo

dry pumice
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What was the damage on it? 4?

lone mortar
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If you look closely snatchers have tentacles dripping out of their mouths

lone mortar
dry pumice
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that's smg's

lone mortar
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1 second equals 2 ticks

dry pumice
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pistol was stronger than that

lone mortar
dry pumice
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4.39

lone mortar
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Then its 2.85

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Huh

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Forgor maybe

dry pumice
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it takes 7 bullets from pistol to kill a charger

lone mortar
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Its still behind the rifle ngl

dry pumice
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exactly 2 chargers per mag

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and one bullet to spare if you miss

lone mortar
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I dunno whats the combo for it

dry pumice
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It does however also has quite a nasty stagger on it that does a great job of keeping chargers away

lone mortar
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Oh

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Other than that…

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Any more very big plus?

dry pumice
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Appantly it has quite a nasty precision multiplier but i'm not sure of that

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Wiki is very autistingly written and i just do not understand the stats, nor do i believe them

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Precision Damage 3.804813
like what is this supposed to mean?

lone mortar
lone mortar
dry pumice
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Is that EXTRA damage or TOTAL damage or what

lone mortar
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Extra most likely

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Its very confusing if look at stagger the same as precision

dry pumice
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The only thing i know is that you can onetap smalls by tapping them to the back of the head like some sort of executioner.

lone mortar
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It can also be put on with sleeping enemies

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Those are the 3 multipliers i know

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They can be applied with guns/sentries

dry pumice
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Shooting a Charger with the Pistol
Stagger damage to the Charger = Damage(Pistol) * Stagger Multiplier(Pistol) = 4.39 * 1.5 = 6.585
=> Charger's remaining stagger hp: 6.5 - 6.585 = < 0

=> The Charger is staggered.

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Wiki actually has that, huh

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TL:DR pistol stagger chargers with each shot and you can effectively keep them stunlocked that way. Assuming proper effective range of course... Which is 6 meters. Past that might require another bullet, but still.

hardy grotto
dry pumice
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"hard to understand"

hardy grotto
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im pretty sure thats not a word LOL

verbal zinc
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kroxyldiphiek is not a word

latent obsidian
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What does it mean then?

hardy grotto
past star
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Just fyi

silver fable
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ahem, fi re blade is 3 words

modern ibex
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Is there some sort of trick to the end of R2C1 other than have a bio scanner? In the ending scan area the lighting is done in such a way that you literally cannot see shadows

lusty bramble
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Run to extract, shoot in a straight line

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Use pdw thermal

modern ibex
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I did run to extract, bought a lot of time closing doors behind me, but I died in the scanner because you genuinely cannot see them. I honestly don't know what it is about the lighting in that area

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I guess I'll bring thermals next time because I'm not sure how else you deal with that

silver fable
modern ibex
silver fable
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mistake in principle is not bringing bio

modern ibex
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I mean how was I to know I'd need it on this level over a sentry or anything else.

silver fable
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yes you can often make out shadows with your light, room lighting permitting, and it's important to maximize that in low-man play so that you can get away with bringing other tools

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but sometimes you just need bio

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I guess the answer to "how was I to know I'd need it" is, loosely, that you don't ever know quite what you'll need when you go into a level blind

tardy ingot
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especially when solo with no bots

silver fable
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in 4man this is also mitigated by having 4 tools, so the bio + mines + foam + sentry default almost always carries the day

modern ibex
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I think the dying on extract thing is what tilted me especially, given that my well-rounded build got me through the rest of the level, but I do agree with what you're saying

silver fable
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in low-man play you should expect to have to retry things with radically different loadouts

modern ibex
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Very true, it has forced a lot of experimentation

hidden ridge
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I assume you also left closest terminal for last

silver fable
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also imo gtfo is at its best when you're driven by a challenging level to retry it with many different loadouts and strats

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losing a run on extract can suck, especially in a bad level like r2c1 that I'd rather just be done with

modern ibex
tardy ingot
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r2c1 is very mid yeh

half gulch
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anyone know what the worst main weapon is

modern ibex
half gulch
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and special

tardy ingot
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bullpup/smg
Precision rifle

hidden ridge
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I'd say HAR is worse than PR

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There's cases where PR is fine

silver fable
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but at some point it just blurs into the thousands of attempts of all sorts of levels, and imo you just learn to shrug it off

hidden ridge
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like low visibility-shadows

tardy ingot
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HAR worse than pr, what

hidden ridge
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Tell me a case where you'd want HAR and HAR alone

tardy ingot
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HAR pre buff was already better

silver fable
half gulch
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whats the worst tool to use ?

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and melee

modern ibex
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probably one of the weaker sentries

tardy ingot
silver fable
tardy ingot
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when would you take pistol and pistol alone

silver fable
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go forth you memer

hidden ridge
silver fable
tardy ingot
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Pistol is still better than smg, heavy smg, bullpup, machine pp and AR (hel pp aswell)

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so your HAR point makes no sense

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HAR is chill B tier

half gulch
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sniper

silver fable
tardy ingot
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Hel revo/carbine (hel shotty)
Combat shotty/hel gun/verura machine gun
Tool is rough to say. Mines/burst sentry and bio are the main stays tho
Hammer

lusty bramble
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Combat shotgun 😂😂😂

tardy ingot
silver fable
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but I think it's a bad question

lusty bramble
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The ceiling for foam is ironically just foaming the floor

tardy ingot
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burst sentry may not have such a high peak. But its omni present useable

hidden ridge
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Bizzare question since you hardly need more than 1 bio tbh

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So what would the point be to say that bio's the best

tardy ingot
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Yea theres no strongest tool rly

hidden ridge
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You might argue that you ALWAYS want a bio

lusty bramble
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The second bio is for the stubborn no mic bio main since they won't switch off of it

modern ibex
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LOL

tardy ingot
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if we go by pickrate (ignoring taking 2 of a tool) then its probably

Bio > burst > mines >> foam >>>>>> other sentries

lusty bramble
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Sniper sentry was arguably the best tool since you could just have the game played for you

weary flume
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I have a stupid question regarding the lfg channel : is here a good place to ask it? 🙂

lusty bramble
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That and old burst

tardy ingot
silver fable
hidden ridge
tardy ingot
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you duo. And you dont even use foam when its the better strat fn lol

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looks at your r4c1 duo

hidden ridge
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and so many cases need mines

tardy ingot
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its definetly a top 3 of tools rn

silver fable
tardy ingot
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which shows in 3 tools being basically always picked. Mines only vanish on certain maps (r1 stuff, reactors usually)

lusty bramble
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Mines are good but counter productive for longer scans

silver fable
lusty bramble
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It's the stagger meta baby

silver fable
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r5c1 with foam banned is one of the greatest gtfo levels ever made

hidden ridge
tardy ingot
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anyhow. Hoping you dont fall into the trolling persona

Why would you laugh about combat shotty beep

lusty bramble
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Lots of reasons to laugh

weary flume
lusty bramble
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It has good efficiency, sure, but lacks range

tardy ingot
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it being buffed in its state considering how good it was already being one i could understand d4rkevDerp

lusty bramble
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And range is a huge detriment

tardy ingot
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thats what you have a main and or teammate for

hidden ridge
weary flume
silver fable
hidden ridge
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Mention the continent or whatever you're in if you're posting in another LFGs or beginners

lusty bramble
tardy ingot
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thats a gimmicky loadout

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which imo only rly works if you decide to hard commit (usually not a good idea in most normal play levels)

Its good in some speeds and r2e1 tho as a one off

lusty bramble
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You lose space with combat because enemies will always make more space than you can hold

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It's better to sustain space by killing things at distance

tardy ingot
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i dont think ive ever been pushed back with combat shotty lol

silver fable
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counterpoint: go watch eva's r1a1 solos

lusty bramble
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I'm not watching those

tardy ingot
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at least never been a case where i could survive with any other gun

tardy ingot
silver fable
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combat shotty just holds a filthy amount of wave

tardy ingot
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thats a whole different level or two above me

weary flume
tardy ingot
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i understand the range issue

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if it didnt have that it would be ridicolus (see hel shotty for this aswell)

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but getting pushed back on those guns is a skill issue

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and aside from veruta i dont think theres a single special with as much wave stopping power

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ignoring line ups for hel gun obviously

silver fable
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combat shotgun has more wave hold than veruta

tardy ingot
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yes

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Especially since you can defend everywhere at once

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veruta has to hold a spray

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hel gun needs line ups

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combat shotty doesnt care. But then has bad range

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all 3 are S tier imo

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btw i do not think combat shotty is the best gun in the game

past star
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Just door bug. Best way to deal with a wave

tardy ingot
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that is probably still hel gun if mastered

silver fable
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I'll say that combat shotgun hasn't ever really been the gun I wanted in duos

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which maybe speaks to other wave options like veruta and hel gun being more generalist

verbal zinc
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If you stand still and turn your flashlight off they can’t see you

lusty bramble
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☝️

tardy ingot
past star
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I have video proof of this

verbal zinc
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It works!

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Sorry I didn’t read any of the conversation that’s going on I just wanted to contribute something

tardy ingot
craggy pier
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whats the difference between the two machineguns

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veruta and arbalist

verbal zinc
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One is called machine gun and it’s a machine gun and the other one is called machine gun but it’s not a machine gun

silver fable
modern ibex
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The Veruta has way faster fire rate and slightly worse ammo economy iirc

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it's also harder to use like fnrslvr said

past star
tardy ingot
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its just harder to get that ammo economy due to high firerate

silver fable
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they're both overtuned though, you're far from being shorthanded by either one

verbal zinc
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They get angry when you flash them

tardy ingot
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btw when are we getting a burning knife skin btw?

A fire… blade if you want to say

silver fable
verbal zinc
tardy ingot
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Sick

modern ibex
past star
silver fable
verbal zinc
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No joke tho you can play around with the aggro so much in funny ways 😂 giants just ignore and won’t even punch you while they walk through your body

silver fable
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and then after a few runs I eventually decide that I could do the thing I'm trying to do with a more generalist loadout

tardy ingot
tardy ingot
silver fable
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hm, the appeal is that I get to pretend har is a main

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and har would be a busted main

lusty bramble
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Sniper would be insane in the main slot

modern ibex
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Out of curiousity, what is the reason that enemies simply don't hear when you shoot one while a rolling door is closing?

silver fable
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what, like the lore reason?

modern ibex
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LOL

verbal zinc
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Apparently coding doors is very difficult

modern ibex
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That would be hilarious if there was an actual in-game reason that a door closing interfered with their ability to detect sounds

verbal zinc
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I think they explained it in a video once

modern ibex
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But yeah no I was just curious about why it somehow plays around their detection system

lusty bramble
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I think they said the same thing about sniper melee

verbal zinc
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😂

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I have a friend who fixed the sound barrier issue and apparently it’s not that hard

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Sniper melee flashbacks

tardy ingot
modern ibex
hardy grotto
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this isnt the argument point you think this is

silver fable
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oh no

hardy grotto
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LOL

silver fable
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shots fired?

lusty bramble
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Puss in boots death arrived

neon gust
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I think the most horrible part of doors in not even for sound purposes but theyre shitty hitbox

lusty bramble
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My favorite guy

neon gust
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ty gatito

silver fable
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dang I guess eva bad at the game

hardy grotto
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i vividly remember seeng the cs used like a sniper

verbal zinc
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1:30

modern ibex
modern ibex
silver fable
lusty bramble
hardy grotto
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lucky for you

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cs is ok gun

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i prefer range tho

silver fable
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I'm sure eva has done one or two silly things with combat shotty

neon gust
lusty bramble
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Just a couple 🥰

verbal zinc
lusty bramble
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Eva gameplay should be used as a benchmark

hardy grotto
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use beep gameplay as a benchmark

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miss 20 shots on 1 sleeper

lusty bramble
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Gotta hit the koovaks

silver fable
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it's just the last time I remember watching someone hold waves with combat shotgun

hardy grotto
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kovaaks

silver fable
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I don't have any other examples, I barely use the thing

tardy ingot
lusty bramble
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You're arguing for something you barely use???

silver fable
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not passionately

lusty bramble
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The only person who has argued for something passionately is black dragon and his special hsmg

neon gust
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all of you are wrong ( drama alert drama alert alert )

silver fable
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I mean if everyone starts dunking on combat shotty and then 10cc buffs it through the roof, something in me will probably die

lusty bramble
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It should be buffed

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Give it back pre r4 range

neon gust
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cann we turn back time to r3 times

lusty bramble
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The good old days

neon gust
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but i am death

silver fable
neon gust
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speaks awkward half english half spanish

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to cater to a larger audience

civic wave
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Anyhow even when holding that class 4 in r1a1 at some point I end up losing space

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Which yeah I could play better but still, combat shotgun can only carry so hard

lusty bramble
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You should see my solos with it

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Crazy stuff

silver fable
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I know

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you had exodia to back it up even

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time to nerf

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damn shame, I like choke shotty

civic wave
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Choke shotty is alright, don't like the reload though

tardy ingot
silver fable
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the reload is the bedrock of choke shotty's balance

civic wave
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Feels like only reason I'd take it is if I don't want to deal with the god awful burst cannon recoil

silver fable
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it's like, its identity

dry pumice
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I feel like 4 shots are way too limiting, but that's me. Maybe if it had 5 I would be a lot more willing to bring it. Would absolutely kill high cal though.

hardy grotto
civic wave
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You cannot kill what is already dead

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I definitely remember you telling me I used combat shotty like a sniper in one of my old r1a1 vids

hardy grotto
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probs because u did

civic wave
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Ye most likely

hardy grotto
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cause typically yes i would prefer the ranged weapon

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pump shotgun boring anyway ripbozo

modern ibex
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Isn't the falloff on the high call absolutely awful? Like 15m or something?

silver fable
craggy pier
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E2 levels when

silver fable
hardy grotto
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its always been boring imo

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i liked combat shotgun for the funny one taps on host

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made it somewhat enjoyable

silver fable
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I like pump for just how much stuff you can do, and how movement-based it is

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it's also been paying the bills lately

silver fable
tardy ingot
silver fable
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it 1taps strikers out to 19m for example

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but stops 5shotting bigs behind I think 10m

hardy grotto
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cause client is easier

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the 1 taps on hel shotgun on client is funnier tho

modern ibex
silver fable
#

was pretty good in r7

#

then they rebalanced it now it's bad

tardy ingot
#

ok*

hardy grotto
#

feel like high cal has always been ok since nerf

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u gotta use the recoil cancel

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its so insane

tardy ingot
#

?

hardy grotto
#

shoot melee then swap back

tardy ingot
#

oh i read reload cancel

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and was like

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wtf you talking bout

silver fable
#

we've had the high cal argument a billion times

hardy grotto
#

hel revo high cal was a good loadout

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i liked it

tardy ingot
#

and you are very biased on it due to loving it in r7 fn :/

I understand your take on not liking it being a easy to learn and master gun with medium ceiling

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but that doesnt make it bad

silver fable
tardy ingot
#

anyhow. Beth
While i dont think my combat shotty r1a1 solo gameplay is anything to write home about.

Combat shotty is stacked. And stuff like hanis solos are a good showcase for it. (Also please dont say i use it like a sniper when i dont (to kill at least KEKW )

Using the argument that it doesnt hold its ground is weird to me btw

#

High cal stacks up pretty well in levels that lack chargers and arent shooter infested

silver fable
#

it just doesn't have the throughput to edge out any other gun in basically any scenario

#

and gets overshadowed in throughput by some guns in multiple important dimensions at once

hardy grotto
#

it holds its ground sure but id rather take range

#

is my point

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idk about beep

#

he's weird

silver fable
#

I am also in the "not my thing" camp on combat shotgun

hardy grotto
#

i think the big thing abt r1a1 solos is that

#

the tiles work really well for it

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both alarm rooms are p small and have close quarters so u can get a lot of value out of it

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if it was different tiles i dont think youd be using carbine cs

silver fable
#

I feel like it's a situation where the tiles don't work as well for other specials

hardy grotto
#

its more so abt the tile than the gun itself

silver fable
#

close quarters and you get dunked

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it shows a comparative advantage for combat shotgun over other options imo

#

which is the point

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doesn't mean it isn't outperformed by other specials a lot of the time due to range

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but iuno, I think it's still pretty dirty what it can do

silver fable
hardy grotto
#

no ill flame beep for free

#

thats ok

#

he likes it

silver fable
#

fun

hardy grotto
#

enemies will make space against u with cs

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cause theres a whole reload ur supposed to do

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unless ur cheating

#

but thats a different page

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like ppl dont just sit completely still solo holding r4e1 reactor

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they have to back up

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that my friends

#

is losing space

silver fable
#

I do agree that you don't always get the spacing you want with the auto shotguns (hel/combat)

#

I tried to make hel shotty + har work in r5c1 duo to mop up S scan waves

#

but the cadence of it always seemed to come undone

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too much work was being done at range by the other three guns in the party, so I'd just run low on main

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so I just moved back to hel revo + veruta and shot better

hardy grotto
#

its not a bad gun by any means but u can do so much more with other guns lmao

#

its a very ok gun i would say

tardy ingot
#

i dont rly see how you can do so much more with other guns. That then dont completely lack stuff combat shotty does :I

silver fable
#

I'd say it's overtuned, but it's like 4th in line for a nerf among the specials

dry pumice
#

Isn't being awfully inferior to something a definition of "bad"?

hardy grotto
#

hel gun gaming goes crazy

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even post nerf LOL

silver fable
#

yeah hel gun nerf just gave the community skill issue for a week or so

#

gun still nuts

tardy ingot
#
  1. theres no special that competes with it in actually stop gapping a wave. This includes enemies in front or around you
  2. its good into giants (not great like choke/shotgun or superb like sniper obviously)
  3. its hyper efficient
  4. its ok for killing chargers (1 makes it insane to stop them)

It basically just makes you step up to do damage

it has very bad range. Guns that outrange it (and arent completely different) are, revolver, hel gun, precision rifle and all 3 full auto guns
hel gun is busted (LOL), revolver is far worse vs chargers, when rushed and into giants. Precision rifle KEKW

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imo moving into common combat shotty fight distance is as much a commitment as moving well for line ups

hel gun obviously gets more payoff from it

hardy grotto
#

so why would i take combat shotgun when i can just take hel gun

#

also id rather run revo than combat shotgun tbh

#

maybe cause its more fun to use

#

i wouldnt be able to sit still but i'd enjoy it more prbos

tardy ingot
tardy ingot
#

would you say veruta machine gun isnt that good?

hardy grotto
#

ok but what if i would rather shoot enemies from a distance first

tardy ingot
#

cuz i dont use it much cuz i dont like it too much

hardy grotto
#

id also rather run veruta than cs

#

cause not everything is just close quarters

tardy ingot
#

then thats a subjective "liking" thing

#

and not a "this gun is rly strong or not"

hardy grotto
#

isnt that just fundamentally better

tardy ingot
#

range is an advantage

#

but you seriously cant be arguing that moving somewhere to be more efficient isnt a thing

when thats all you argued for burst cannon vs smalls :I

#

obviously you dont always move up with combat shotgun (or always can for that matter)

hardy grotto
#

i can think of like 1

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maybe 2 situations

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where i will run cs

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or 3 i suppose

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1 is r1a1 solo cause its really good

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2 is r2e1 if im doing double shotgun loadout cause its funny

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3 is if im running the deadly loadout

tardy ingot
#

deadly loadout?

hardy grotto
#

1 of those is for a legit good reason

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dmr cs

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r1a1 solo is good for cs cause of the tiles

ocean spindle
#

deadly loadout that just sounds very funny ngl

lusty bramble
#

Deadly marksman rifle

tardy ingot
#

btw im not arguing for combat shotgun over hel gun. (aside from the situations where its obviously better)
Its a super versatile gun with probably the best defensive profile of any special rn

silver fable
#

I might be alone in this, but I have just enough skill issue that to make certain duos go through, I basically need to have some discipline and pick the right special

tardy ingot
#

in a 4 man having one just means you dont have to worry about enemies getting close and can play around solo very easily

hardy grotto
#

in a 4 man none of this even matters

tardy ingot
#

dont bring up the point of "4 man easy, 4 man can be done with 2 people afk"

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cuz we arent arguing whether stuff is useable

hardy grotto
#

in pubs thats different but if i see a pub with combat shotgun

tardy ingot
#

but whats strongest/stronger

silver fable
#

so like, to make r5b3 duo go through, ahto's on his hel rifle arc, so someone damn well needs to bring the gun that'll put damage into tanks

hardy grotto
#

its abotu the same as not having a combat shotgun really

tardy ingot
#

beth. if i see a pub with the best guns i still worry

hardy grotto
#

i just dont think 4 man really matters

tardy ingot
#

well it obviously does

#

this game is a 4 man coop

hardy grotto
#

but these arguments are literally pointless cause its like

#

everything goes

silver fable
#

so regardless of what I think of pump shotty (I like it but f sway bug), pump shotty is the special that made the r5b3 duo go through, therefore it's good

tardy ingot
#

so arguments about precision rifle being bad and why are also pointless

#

?

lusty bramble
hardy grotto
#

i personally just dont think about the precision rifle

silver fable
hardy grotto
#

half the time i forget it exists

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except when beep talks about it

lusty bramble
#

Good weapon

#

Great on r4e1

hardy grotto
#

but actually isnt all of this pointless

#

shouldnt we all be spending time trying to work towards our best selves...

#

so deep....

tardy ingot
#

im 14 and this is deep :^)

#

ah sry

#

beep*

silver fable
#

anyway I can more or less make the "I need this gun to make the duo go through" argument for hel gun, veruta, pump, choke, sniper, hel rifle even, in theory combat shotgun

ocean spindle
#

im precision rifle and this is Buckland AF6 Combat Shotgun

silver fable
#

I can't imagine a level where I could make that argument for highcal, which is why highcal bad imo

lusty bramble
#

How dare you

#

I just spout my opinions until rayalot shows up

#

I can't argue with him because I steal all my opinions from his intellectual prowess

silver fable
#

well dang, beep has combat shotgun in S after all

hardy grotto
#

didnt ray once argue that ur meant to get 2 kills per shot of pump

#

i feel like that was a little strange

#

must ask him about this

lusty bramble
#

He's objectively correct

#

You gotta get the pump doubles...

#

If you can't it's a skill issue

silver fable
#

there's definitely a "rayalot reviews all the guns in gtfo" thread somewhere where he says you should try to 2-for-1 with pump shotty because the ammo

tardy ingot
hardy grotto
#

i mean i remember watching u snipe enemies from narn with cs

#

in r1a1 speeds

ocean spindle
#

the two kill per shot is with sawed off

hardy grotto
#

thats not exactly

#

✨ efficient ✨

waxen jetty
#

✨ efficient ✨

#

i like that

hardy grotto
#

thanks

ocean spindle
#

✨ efficient ✨

lusty bramble
#

The combat is objectively #🌟 efficient 🌟 #

#

Damn...

hardy grotto
#

LOL

lusty bramble
#

🌟 efficient 🌟

tardy ingot
lusty bramble
#

Checked what

hardy grotto
#

u checked ur vods from like 5 months ago? damn

lusty bramble
#

Your dms???

hardy grotto
#

im impressed

#

i wish i had that ability

lusty bramble
#

He's a much better player from 5 months ago

hardy grotto
#

its true

waxen jetty
#

darkeva doesnt even remember streaming for 7h

lusty bramble
#

Love you darkeva ❤️

waxen jetty
#

i dont think worthy of trust...

silver fable
#

it's going to turn out that beth and beep were just trolling eva into checking the vods EverythingsFine

hardy grotto
#

that'd be funny

lusty bramble
#

Beth remembers and brings up shit from a year ago

hardy grotto
#

its true

lusty bramble
#

I can trust her memory

tardy ingot
#

and i definetly never do stuff like that :^ )

lusty bramble
#

Can we bring back Lenny faces

hardy grotto
#

no

lusty bramble
#

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

#

This shit bops

hardy grotto
#

what was even the argument again

#

combat shotgun is good?

#

was anyone even arguing that it wasnt like at least an ok gun

lusty bramble
#

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hardy grotto
#

i feel like im in 2012

lusty bramble
#

I spelled it wrong fuck

#

Effiency

hardy grotto
#

effiency

neon gust
hardy grotto
#

hi black dragon

silver fable
hardy grotto
#

ur german right LOLOLOLOL IM SO FUNNY

silver fable
#

but also this is gtfo-related-questions

hardy grotto
#

PLEASE LAUGH PLEASE

neon gust
silver fable
#

so what did I expect

hardy grotto
#

not a whole lot i hope

#

its ok black dragon

#

im also considered german

#

by many people...

lusty bramble
#

BLACKDRAGON224#5177

neon gust
#

Papperlapapp

lusty bramble
#

Why do I have that an autocorrect

hardy grotto
#

in love...

arctic marten
#

is the water rundown out yet

hardy grotto
#

no

arctic marten
#

ill be back in a month to ask again

hardy grotto
#

hop on phas

lusty bramble
#

Lost to twins 🥵

hardy grotto
#

we lost to uh

silver fable
hardy grotto
#

a few

arctic marten
#

he doesnt need to know that

hardy grotto
#

i got mountainman killed

#

it was very funny

arctic marten
#

who is mountainman

neon gust
#

dead hard into me

hardy grotto
#

a known griefer

hardy grotto
#

and brought the sabo toolbox and did gens

neon gust
#

is ds still cancer

hardy grotto
#

no idea

#

i dont think i played when it was

#

unless it still is

#

but i dont use that perk

neon gust
#

im a no mither gamer

#

was

hardy grotto
#

i use dead hard

#

:)

neon gust
#

i unistall that toxic ass game

arctic marten
neon gust
hardy grotto
#

i heard abt the old dead hard

#

quite funny

#

i like it in its current state

neon gust
#

shit was stupid

#

lots of things were stupid

hardy grotto
#

yup

neon gust
#

somehow it took them like years to fix

#

some of the perks

hardy grotto
#

game balancing is hard

#

u should know this

neon gust
#

otztarva fixed the game

modern ibex
#

What the hell, I can't even escape DBD on a GTFO discord 😩

next socket
#

Does R4D2 tank auto wake?

sturdy glen
#

no

next socket
#

So.. I assume it wakes up if you ignore it during the subsequent error alarm?

sturdy glen
#

yes

tardy ingot
#

basically

sturdy glen
#

1 room from extract

craggy pier
#

is the pistol any good?

sturdy glen
#

its fine

civic wave
#

It's pretty damn solid but outclassed by other weapons

sturdy glen
#

rifle is the same damage profile but better tho

civic wave
#

It wont do you wrong but other stuff does more

craggy pier
#

so whats the best primary

civic wave
#

Hel Revolver

#

Carbine also very strong

craggy pier
#

any other guns?

#

also

#

can combat shotty onetap scouts?

ocean spindle
#

yeah

#

tho u might wanna double tap just to b safe

#

also dont use just the stronger weapons, use whatevs ur heart desires

sturdy glen
#

needs back of head or double tap to front head or back

#

(all require being close ofc)

feral granite
#

is the lfg beginners the only lfg channel? or are there other channels too that i am too goofy to unlock?

sturdy glen
#

click channels & roles at the top, go to browse channels and hit follow category on every section

#

that shit really didnt get fixed yet

winged turtle
#

new Discord feature that really should not have been implemented in this server imo

modern ibex
# craggy pier so whats the best primary

DMR is my personal favorite, and if you have any muted main damage stim it one taps all smalls with headshots, which is incredibly good. Not excellent ammo economy if you can't hit all your shots though

soft crater
#

I prefer the booster that works

#

When in the presence of your fellow homies

spring obsidian
#

anyone have any tips on how to beat r1c1 reconnect, with 3 people.

tardy ingot
#

@winged turtle

#

@winged turtle

#

post the R1C1 copypasta

upper ginkgo
craggy pier
#

guys, is the enemies sensitive in voice chat? Like, i can wake up them just talk something?

civic wave
#

hold bridge
grab resources from start of mission
loot shit between waves
use 3 sentries + biotracker, don't need to use all sentries at the start

civic wave
dry pumice
# spring obsidian anyone have any tips on how to beat r1c1 reconnect, with 3 people.

Its just resource management and decent aim.
Foam - useless.
Mine deployer - useless.
1 bio, 3 sentries is the optimal loadout, but you shouldn't be placing them all at once or else they will burn through ammo.
As you start - burn small x2-x3 ammo/tool packs, then find the largest one like x4, x5 or even x6 and bring it with you (tool is a priority).
Defend on the bridge, when the time comes - one guy goes to input the code (last second, not immediately!) and the other 3 go and loot resources from the path. It is advised to consume resources stacked in the bridge area last, if it can be helped.

civic wave
#

they're only triggered by in game actions

spring obsidian
#

@dry pumice thank you

winged turtle
tardy ingot
#

F

wintry kayak
#

new r1c1 copypasta dropped

dry pumice
#

I probably should prepare one as well, but the thing is that i imeddiately forget that i have copypastes just like i forget that i have a jpg meme folder and emoticons. It just doesn't cross my mind to use any of it, i'm a default text guy

#

It almosts disgusts me how boring i am

wintry kayak
#

you’re fun

#

see how main is square

#

sec is pentagon

#

ol is hexagon

#

PE is the silhouette you get when putting them on top of eachother

#

I discovered this today

#

I always thought it was just a septagon or something

dry pumice
#

Clever

balmy plaza
#

what are the little pink/red/orange diamond things you find on shelves in the game?

#

just started playing the game and found those in my first expedition and just kept picking them up lol

cold quarry
#

artifacts

#

collect enough to get 'boosters' which give you temporary bonuses for expeditions

#

do not eat

#

or maybe do

balmy plaza
#

ah

#

do you only get the 'boosters' if you complete a mission?

#

i saw i had 2 boosters i could take with me (didnt take them since i wanna learn the game first), but then i died early on my expedition and didnt get any extra boosters when i went back to the lobby

#

also is it possible to leave the game and come back in the middle of an expidition later on or do I have to always do it in one sitting?

craggy pier
#

Every artifact you pick up increses youe progression toward a new booster
Every time you go above 0.99 you get a booster

#

There is a heat system

#

Which determines how much progression you get from each artifact

#

The more you collect artifacts in a lvl the lower the heat goes

#

You will not lose any progress you gained from a lvl by dying

#

But leaving mid game does

balmy plaza
#

aw okay

#

you cant save mid expedition?

craggy pier
#

Only if the lobby host retires back to lobby

balmy plaza
#

so say im the host, i can leave the expedition and come back to it later in the day?

craggy pier
#

No you have to restart

balmy plaza
#

i hear that it takes like

#

10+ more hours just for a single expedition/rundown so how are you supposed to do it in one sitting 😭

craggy pier
#

It takes about 40-90 mins per

#

For experienced players

#

Inexperienced probablly 2 hrs or 2.5

#

For each expedition

#

This is for some of the later lvls

#

A tier and B tier lvls take less but it's dependant on how fast or slow you go about your approach

balmy plaza
#

so theres no possible way to save in the middle of an expedition?

#

sad

craggy pier
#

There are checkpoints in r6 and r7 but only for the current session

#

Game is meant to be unforgiving

balmy plaza
#

another question, what does the burst sentry do? I kept trying to use it but nothing would happen. Left clicking or right clicking didnt do anything

sterile citrus
#

You just place it down and its goes Pew Pew. Gotta hold E for a sec.

#

Also make sure the marker on the ground is white not red. Red means unable to place.

balmy plaza
#

i will try that ty :)

craggy pier
#

Hold e if that's still your default use button

#

Sentries are turrets to help you do stuff

balmy plaza
#

gotcha

#

yeah will try that

craggy pier
#

Bio tracker is information tool let's you know where enemies are and can ping active enemies from a distance

balmy plaza
#

what are the better ARs in the game? I just used the default AR that was my main weapon but enemies took a little bit to kill

craggy pier
#

Cfoam launcher is a crowd control tool that freezes enemies or reinforces doors

craggy pier
#

Ammo must be preserved for loud parts

#

So try to stealth what you can

balmy plaza
#

yeah

#

can bots trigger enemies?

craggy pier
#

No

balmy plaza
#

even scouts?

craggy pier
#

Yes even scouts

balmy plaza
#

the spaghetti guys lol

sterile citrus
#

Even when they shoot. They dont pull aggro.

balmy plaza
#

interesting

#

good to know

#

can enemies walk into you?

craggy pier
#

Yes

balmy plaza
#

like if youre just stealthing around

craggy pier
#

Scouts can touch you

balmy plaza
#

yeah

#

what about the normal enemies

sterile citrus
#

You can bump into them and make them mad. But they dont move.

#

Most normal enemies are dormant.

balmy plaza
#

gotcha, there were some enemies that were running around that showed up but werent aggro or anything

craggy pier
#

Scouts are the only enemies that roam around

#

Also as for your question earlier
Most mains are identical some have better stats than others but shouldnt be your focus

#

Take them for a spin and see what you like

sterile citrus
#

If you see a ping moving in another room its a scout the bot has pinged.

balmy plaza
#

can you only kill scouts after theyre done being blue?

#

or can you kill them while theyre blue

#

or even before then

craggy pier
#

Before and after

#

Mostly you want to kill them before

#

You can do that with a fully charged hammer to the head

sterile citrus
#

If they turn blue means they've screamed and been activated.

balmy plaza
#

can you kill them after theyre blue without going loud?

craggy pier
#

No

#

Cuz they wake up the room

balmy plaza
#

damn

craggy pier
#

And spawn enemies that will catch up to you

balmy plaza
#

so best strat would just to be stealthy and then go loud if they turn blue?

craggy pier
#

Yes

sterile citrus
#

Best thing to do is find a spot slap down sentries and pew if they blue.

balmy plaza
#

do mines wake up other enemies if an enemy runs into it?

craggy pier
#

Yes they are loud

sturdy glen
#

but also quieter than guns

#

by a lot

craggy pier
#

Here is a playlist of how to kill scouts by one of our pioneers

balmy plaza
#

got it

#

also whats the flashlight rule?

#

can you have your flashlight on so long its not pointed at enemies? Not really sure how it works yet

craggy pier
#

You can have it on just not on sleeping enemies

sterile citrus
#

Yup. Pointing at them will make them pulse so you can sync enemies together. Holding it on them makes them aggro after a second+

craggy pier
#

You can flash enemies as thug said

#

But you can't flash em for too long otherwise they wake up

sterile citrus
#

If there is like a mass group and they're all pulsing at strange intervals a quick flash can sync them up to make sneaking by, or stealth killing them easier.

balmy plaza
#

speaking of mass groups

#

whats the best way to kill a horde of enemies

sterile citrus
#

Practice for stealth. For pulling rooms you usually wanna set up mines / sentries ahead at good spots. Cfoaming doors etc.

balmy plaza
#

shotgun has terrible range lol

craggy pier
#

Yeah well it's a pellet gun

#

The pump shotgun is the best close range clear weapon

#

But automatic wpns like assault rifle pdw are good

#

For special slot machine guns are good

sterile citrus
#

The HEL Shotgun has penetration and massive stagger, If you have people with you its great.

balmy plaza
craggy pier
#

Main

#

It has very 'low range

balmy plaza
#

whats a good range heavy weapon? The revolvers?

sterile citrus
#

If you have good aim also. If you put on any main damage booster the DMR can 1 shot strikers in the head and it always 1 shots spitters.

craggy pier
#

I wouldn't recommend it as a new player

craggy pier
sterile citrus
#

Ya stay away from HEL Sgun its better in dedictated groups.

ocean spindle
#

maybs doubletab rifle for main, oneshots, but the recoil is hard to control cause u need one bodyshot and one headshot

craggy pier
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No precision based weapons for new players

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Automatic until you get flow of the game

sterile citrus
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I played a shit load of apex etc so I love the DMR

ocean spindle
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i mean if u played, fps some and u think u got aim

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go for it

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u can test

craggy pier
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Yes except gtfo is not your casual fps game

sterile citrus
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Hahaha so true.

ocean spindle
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yeah but u know good skill help to learn headshot faster

craggy pier
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Ammo is limited and it's easy to run out of it

craggy pier
sterile citrus
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Ya so many different head locations depending on enemy stance and what not whether they crawling or standing.

balmy plaza
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the security alarm doors that spawn hordes, do they spawn from the door youve activated or do they come from the other doors around you? I thought they came from the door you activated so i set down my stuff there lol

ocean spindle
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they come from the doors around u, the alarm is before u do anythin with the door

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the training like shows u

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they come from the room u were in

sterile citrus
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the # of alarm is the amount of scans. The 1st always counts as 1.

balmy plaza
sterile citrus
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Alarm II means 2 scans to complete . III = 3. IV = 4

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So on.

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After that many scans is done the door will become unlocked

balmy plaza
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does it say what alarm # it is on the door?

sterile citrus
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Should say when looking at it before you hold E to activate.

balmy plaza
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gotcha

sterile citrus
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Itll be like Class something IV or so on depending. They're different alarms you'll see through out the game

craggy pier
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Hordes spawn 2 rooms away from the one you are in

balmy plaza
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does c foam on a door prevent them from entering or can they still break through that

sterile citrus
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Can still break takes longer. Basically a reinforcement. Great to stack a wave and place a mine so when they do break they go boom

craggy pier
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Its reinforcement tool for doors

balmy plaza
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is there a way to have bots pick up specific tools you find or do they just pickup every tool they find

craggy pier
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Nope

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They pick them up when you are 6 meters away

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And they will use em when they get the chance

sterile citrus
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Ya they love using lock melters

craggy pier
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They are efficient about em so no worries

ocean spindle
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i mean if u refer to tool reflls yes, if u refer to their tool as in a sentry mines foam or bio, the host can change em

sterile citrus
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You can tell bots to carry objective items its really useful. Command window (Mines bound to f not sure the default) 2 then whatever bot ( 5,6,7) .

ocean spindle
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thats for later

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but yeah useful

craggy pier
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Dispose of yourself right now

sterile citrus
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My binds are fucked after so much fornite.

craggy pier
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Why 🍴

sterile citrus
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I mean they're not terrible I just got everything swapped, Q main Z X C are Tool, Kits, Sentry. 1 Melee Weapon 3 Special. Side mouse for Shove, Bottom Side for Flashlight.

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Its just way different than default.

balmy plaza
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theres a shove button?

sterile citrus
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Its "Melee" in the keybinds. You can use it to Reload Cancel if you really wanna learn everything.

craggy pier
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Default is C

balmy plaza
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whenever i use the melee button it just switches to my melee weapon and doesnt actually attack lol

craggy pier
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Or right click

craggy pier
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It pushes the enemies and staggers for a lil bit

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Does no damage

sterile citrus
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Kinda niche but useful if there's just 1 enemy bout to lick ya.

balmy plaza
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ah

sterile citrus
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To Reload Cancel. Reaload, wait for your ammo count so swap, Shove, Re pull out main. For me Its R - Side Mouse - Q. or 3 for 2ndary.

balmy plaza
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is there a use to the compass? I tried it for a little bit but eventually i just disabled it

sterile citrus
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I use it for route for later maps to know where to go . Like knowing I need to Go North then bakc S Then Back N. Its useful for later levels I feel when stuff get more convulated .

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But if you get used to navigating without it more power to ya.

craggy pier
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That sort of thing

sterile citrus
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Ah im never the Bio scan user lol I never thought of that.

craggy pier
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I was bio player until they made bots bio op instead of asking with commands

balmy plaza
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if another player or bot is using the bio scanner, can other players see the enemies too

sterile citrus
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^ why we get a cooldown wtf

balmy plaza
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ik like some enemies or hordes can be pinged

sterile citrus
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8 secs even

craggy pier
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Yes you can

sterile citrus
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Bots go BRRRRRRRRRRR scan everything

craggy pier
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But you cant see the enemies with the bio scanner screen since you don't have it

sterile citrus
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Ya the Bio Bot will say a Voice line in everyroom, If its empty hell note it, Otherwise hell be like Rooms got nightmares etc.

cold quarry
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We're shagged

sterile citrus
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Lololol fuckin austin powers bot

sinful yacht
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When starting the game, how do I progress, which is considered the 'first' rundown and mission?

fierce walrus
wintry kayak
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biology scanner🥵

wintry kayak
craggy pier
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Mmmm yes go to the reproduction chapter

cold quarry
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the baby

wintry kayak
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call me epstein because I like them neonates

craggy pier
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Ayo

wintry kayak
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wait was that even him

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I forgot

fierce walrus
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what

cold quarry
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yeah

craggy pier
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🧐🧐🧐

wintry kayak
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simple biology

fierce walrus
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do we ever get to cut open the child and find out whats inside him

wintry kayak
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me when put child in unsealer machine

craggy pier
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I liké to dissect babies
Did you Know im utterly insane

cold quarry
fierce walrus
fierce walrus
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but i still dunno how tf does the child work

cold quarry
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no idea

craggy pier
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Its Brown so dont stress it

cold quarry
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i assume it's some stem-cell BS maybe to make progress on a cure?

craggy pier
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R6CX logs

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Schaeffer convo with unit 22

craggy pier
obtuse epoch
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how do i find channel of my region

fierce walrus
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at the top of the discord server page you can select a role, one allows you to view all the lfg channels