#gtfo-related-questions

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turbid horizon
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Honestly it could benefit from lower firerate, higher stagger per bulletc and a new AI

dry pumice
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holds the waves back real good

turbid horizon
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if it ike

sterile citrus
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Maybe if it didnt get stuck shooting shit behind walls and waste 100+ ammo

turbid horizon
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Swept across enemies

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Instead of focusing one motherfucker for 30 seconds

dry pumice
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switch is to shotgun firing mode with hel-shotgun like spread

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maybe that would make it better

neon gust
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it took them a whole year to like fix all the sentries

turbid horizon
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idk if they’re all fixed

neon gust
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auto sentry its pretty alright for what it does

turbid horizon
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sniper sentry still acts funny sometimes

dry pumice
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I think they overnerfed sniper again

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it just shoots so rarely and i often see it just straight inoring enemies in front of it

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even with a bio

sterile citrus
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Burst just seems way too good IMO.

dry pumice
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unless the map is just one giant clear room - its worthless

turbid horizon
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Burst is kinda the meta again

sterile citrus
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Sniper is nice on certain maps . I never use the Auto/Shotgun at all

turbid horizon
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i use shotgun when I’m solo no bits

dry pumice
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shotgun is kinda based under bio

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but only close range

arctic marten
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can we get release r6 burst sentry back thx

neon gust
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i value sniper and shotgun sentry a lot more

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you just gotta know your placement

turbid horizon
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I value shotgun sentry if I’m alone, and auto in certain situations

arctic marten
neon gust
sterile citrus
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Ya I place my shotgun terribly I think. I always have it using way too much ammo.

turbid horizon
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Wasn’t R6 burst busted

turbid horizon
dry pumice
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but it actually kills

sterile citrus
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It feels like it wasting more ammo than it is putting out dmg sometimes

turbid horizon
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Bc you have all the tool

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And imo, bio symbiosis makes shotgun sentry shoot too fast

sterile citrus
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I need to test it more , we are getting down to R4 D missions.

turbid horizon
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Can auto sentry lock onto the Nemesis?

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That’d be really funny lmao

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Watching it blow all it’s ammo for 0.1 damage

arctic marten
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yes, all sentries lock on to the immortal

turbid horizon
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Not the immortal

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I said nemesis bc spoilers

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R6D1

arctic marten
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oh, yea sentries lock onto that as well

turbid horizon
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All of them?

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Lmao

arctic marten
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confused me cause you said 0.1 dmg

civic wave
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do they aim at the weak points though or the armour

turbid horizon
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Does sniper go for tumors?

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Bc it could actually do something

arctic marten
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i remember using sniper sentries there

turbid horizon
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We didn’t have shottie back then

arctic marten
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they shoot at the tumors

turbid horizon
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Lmao ok

sterile citrus
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IDM Spoils. We just did R4C1 so we got to see Pablo for the 1st time.

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Fun little guy

arctic marten
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the other ones might have too little detection range to lock on

turbid horizon
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Yeahhh

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I hope auto doesn’t lock on

arctic marten
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shotgun for sure cant

turbid horizon
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I never realized that’s why pablo can’t be pinged for long

arctic marten
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but depending on tumor and placement, you might get burst or auto to

turbid horizon
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So sentries can prio tagged enemies

turbid horizon
arctic marten
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true

turbid horizon
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Sometimes it gets really close for no reason

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God i miss R6

arctic marten
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for the shotgun users

dry pumice
arctic marten
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(there were no shotgun users in r6)

sterile citrus
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😮

dry pumice
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one question:

turbid horizon
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I scattergun the Kraken

dry pumice
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could you kill it? did you?

sterile citrus
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Yes.

civic wave
dry pumice
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Then it is not Pablo.

sterile citrus
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Ohh nice.

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Morestuff to find out I thought those were lol

tardy ingot
arctic marten
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i think im gonna call every enemy pablo now

sterile citrus
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Works.

arctic marten
tardy ingot
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i honestly dont remember if r6 had combat shotty :I

dry pumice
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it didn't

tardy ingot
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i used normal shotty a bunch in r6

dry pumice
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pump, choker, scatter

tardy ingot
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that and HAR

dry pumice
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and techically sawed off

tardy ingot
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when i hit 600 hours or so i started playing hel gun a lot

dry pumice
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I got R6DX clear with a pump, somehow

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Shooting fliers with that is... An experience.

civic wave
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I used shotgun for most of r6

arctic marten
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fake gamer spotted

civic wave
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I was not real during that period of time

sterile citrus
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Question? How long Are R5 missions if you just do main one of our players doesnt have much time recently so weve been trying to just do mains with him

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I know if you do all they can be 2+ hours Ive heard.

turbid horizon
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Yeah

dry pumice
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Easy 2 hours on anything that has a PE on it

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I think i've beaten R5C2 yesterday with a team who knew what they were doing and it was 1:58:xx

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B4 is only 35 minutes though, no other way

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Either you beat it in that time or you die

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...or you intentionally prolong it, but why would you

sterile citrus
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Interesting Nice to know , ty.

dry pumice
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You can always stack up on supply efficiency booster and just go loud on rooms

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Speeds up cleaning time by like... 2-3 times

sterile citrus
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Ya ive gotten them better at pulling rooms so that shouldnt be bad. They were so scared to start.

dry pumice
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You probably still shouldn't, but most levels provide enough ammo to compensate

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key word most

sterile citrus
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Ya I forgot which R4 we did but it had like nothing.

turbid horizon
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Og

sterile citrus
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I got 2 more people hopefully playing soon so letting them learn the ropes gonna be fun.

soft crater
vague bridge
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whats the name of the guy who shows up first in r5a2

stable walrus
sterile citrus
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Oh no I love letting people learn I have a good mental . I know how hard this game is.

stable walrus
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I’m usually pretty chill, don’t even have that many hours (16) but it’s just such a out of there concept for me now to forget a thing that’s already hard wired into my brain

sterile citrus
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Hell even after 60 hours we still do dumbshit. Chaos makes it fun 😛

fathom fjord
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Hello everyone,
||So I've seen a couple of people disposing of Tanks with mines placed high up horizontally or vertically pointing downwards. My group has failed to kill him a single time using this method. First we thought it was because he wasn't running at us and he triggered the mines with his invincible part and took zero damage. We managed to find ways to make him run at us thinking that would solve the issue, but nothing seems to work. Does someone has experience with this strat ? Any feedback would be really welcome.||

craggy pier
cold quarry
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if it's an apex door, put them on the fifth notch up from the ground

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I do 4 on each side

next socket
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Ok y'all what niche does the auto sentry fill? It seems completely stinky at everything

cold quarry
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stunning

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i don't find it very useful

next socket
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Just shoot 'em??

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dead > stunned

cold quarry
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there are some scenarios where you need stun like Crib

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but 3 bursts does the job just fine

cold quarry
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crib's 2e1

next socket
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ah

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Can't you just babysit

cold quarry
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babysit what

fathom fjord
next socket
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nvm I'm dumb

craggy pier
next socket
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and walk through?

craggy pier
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u can do that by being far and having no one on his line of sight

craggy pier
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also when hes running his head is leaning forward so more exposure

fathom fjord
# craggy pier it wont work

Any strats for R4C3 ? Really struggling to kill him in that stupid small room, managed to kill him a few times but also died a few times when he triggered the mines and took no damage.

next socket
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Does the tank have a melee animation?

craggy pier
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yes it does

cold quarry
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it punches i think

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i don't thinmk the immortal does though, that thing just seems to deal damage when you're near it

next socket
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Can you bait out the melee animation to hit tumors /w guns like you would bait a giant's melee to solo it?

cold quarry
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he does?

craggy pier
craggy pier
cold quarry
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what does it look like

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he doesn't even have arms does he

craggy pier
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small arms

craggy pier
cold quarry
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ah I assumed they just. got sucked into whatever he's made of

craggy pier
civic wave
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  1. Yes you can mine tanks, you want the mines to be above your camera level (but otherwise you have a lot of leeway)
  2. Mines do not destroy tumours, so you may still greatly weaken tank if it doesn't fail
  3. He doesn't need to run through the mines, he just needs to be oriented well enough
mossy aurora
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the reason why people say he needs to be running is because when the tank is walking, the direction he's facing can be a bit unpredictable. he can be walking forward, or doing the side stepping thing he does which can cause the angle the mines are exploding at to be messed up

craggy pier
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yeah thats why i said running so you wont waste bunch tool in a whim

spare yacht
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have ya'lll passed R2E1? If so any tips on beating that mission?

past mesa
mossy aurora
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it is entirely possible to beat the level without cfoam 🙉

civic wave
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first half of the mission is kinda whatever, the error alarm is where stuff can go bad and is mostly about keeping things under control between both clearing zone and error waves

neon gust
spare yacht
neon gust
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sometimes its ok to take a couple of hit to finish the surge alarm

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Burst sentries and a shotgun sentry its nice

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for the surge areas

modest monolith
past mesa
neon gust
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inb4 hybrid spam on second surge

past mesa
modest monolith
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Also, i would highly recommend 1 person have at least 1 weapon that has long range and stagger ability for the hybrids

past mesa
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Like just take sniper, choke or burst cannon

neon gust
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yeah

past mesa
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None of this stagger bullshit

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Just kill them

modest monolith
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i forgot to mention that you don't actually need to KILL. Just try to survive during the scan

past mesa
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No

neon gust
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you kill to survive

past mesa
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Kill don’t be stupid

modest monolith
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i mean the hybrids

past mesa
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You need them dead

neon gust
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yeah you kill the hybrid

past mesa
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What

modest monolith
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the thing is

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it's hard to kill while you're in the scan.

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so my point is try to stagger them

neon gust
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you have a primary

past mesa
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Are we talking about the same scan?

modest monolith
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if you can kill then it's good

spare yacht
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1 sentry, 1c foam, 1 bio scan, 1 mine person is what random team rocks usually

modest monolith
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but i find it's pretty hard in overall

neon gust
past mesa
modest monolith
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people call me a madman when i tell them you don't actually need to use sentry in R2E1 😦

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i need a doctor...

past mesa
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People call me a mad man when I say you don’t need guns in r2e1

neon gust
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your not a madman your using your own experience as a player and impose it to other people who cannot play like that

mossy aurora
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i kind of agree with sen here. if they are struggling on that scan, then the chance of them being able to pick off hybrids quickly is probably low. and then during the error they are going to have zero impact because they have sniper and are not proficient enough with their primary

neon gust
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its not been a madman

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its been stupid

past mesa
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  • just take bc
mossy aurora
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bc doesnt help when hybrid is head glitching you

neon gust
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bc exist for this vert reason, you can be messy with it

past mesa
modest monolith
neon gust
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because your suggesting to someone

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not an opinion

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its advice

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your setting them for failure like that

past mesa
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Sentries is probably easier than foam if you don’t know what you are doing

neon gust
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foam floor sad

past mesa
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Foams ladder incorrectly

neon gust
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🤮

modest monolith
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foam ladder is kinda hard to do, ngl

past mesa
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Based

mossy aurora
neon gust
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:[

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i mean, mans not telling us where he dies !!!

modest monolith
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he dies in our heart

neon gust
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hybrid alarm its where a lot of people die!

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and error section

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specially the fog pit

mossy aurora
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from my experience with pubs that are struggling with that level, if they make it past hybrid scan becuase someone switches to sniper, they're sacrificing their strength during the error + fog surge which is a harder hurdle imo than the hybrid scan

neon gust
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i mean you can just tell the sniper guy to carry baby and also we were saying burst canon its the best option

past mesa
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There is a infinite kite and pubs can’t shoot

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What I suppose to do

upper ginkgo
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wipe

modest monolith
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you mean kiting with stamina ?

neon gust
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wipe

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like a true gtfo elitist

past mesa
neon gust
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if they reach E and cannot shoot

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you die

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irl too!

upper ginkgo
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please down me so i dont kite

past mesa
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I do

upper ginkgo
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i shoot people on r5b4 if they don't reach the mined door in time 🤫

mossy aurora
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Also foaming ladder is just a knowledge gap. Someone just needs to tell you how to properly do it once

mossy aurora
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Couple days ago I seen 10 uses of tool used on ladder and it didnt even last through the entire tunnel scan

upper ginkgo
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brother i will optimize for that mine value

modest monolith
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i never thought of shooting other players because they are bad or not doing what you want. Just simply look at them doing their job and laugh inside

mossy aurora
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Same group that told me hel revo doesn't have good firepower btw

mossy aurora
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No

upper ginkgo
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no namedropping 😡

modest monolith
past mesa
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I mean thundershocker is a good player

past mesa
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If they aren’t we wipe

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Idk man

modest monolith
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we are forced to be cruel...

past mesa
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I tell them to die on scan

modest monolith
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wish i had Thanos's gloves so i can wipe out half of the team

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and do the scan

upper ginkgo
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if only we had a m*d that could kick people

modest monolith
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calling 911

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btw, so what's the problem that he's struggling in R2E1 ? Where he dies ?

upper ginkgo
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he never clarified 😔

craggy pier
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send him a letter explaining the whole map

left gust
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can enemies detect you if youre holding a fog turbine

modest monolith
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fog turbine does not do anything that compromise your position.

left gust
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cool

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thanks

lone mortar
modest monolith
lone mortar
static leaf
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hello every body and i wish a great day i am thinking to buy game and i wonder if i buy it can i find many players play with me or it limited

silver fable
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it's a handgun

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if you've seen the waves in this game, you know you need full auto rifles to dump lead on them

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speaking of, you really should try the bullpup, that thing's amazing

feral cypress
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hel revolver is crazy

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wdym

silver fable
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sorry forgot the /s

feral cypress
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a

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on that note the auto sentry is needed because more ammo = more kills

silver fable
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don't forget precision rifle and spear

soft crater
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Hel revo has power?

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Use hel pp if you want damage

ocean spindle
soft crater
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It is a Monday

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So it would be even more unpopulated than usual

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Everyone entering back into work mode (though it is summer)

runic bison
soft grotto
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Q: when a scout's tendrils are out, are they immune to headshots? I sniped one last night, while their tentacles were out, and it just took the damage and alerted

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did I miss?

tardy ingot
dry pumice
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Either you missed or you used a weak gun.

soft grotto
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Sniper, Koenig P1

lusty bramble
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Talking??

dry pumice
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Missed then.

soft grotto
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must've missed... yeah.. hrm.

dry pumice
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Question: did it had baloon for a head or spikes

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@soft grotto

feral cypress
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oh true

dry pumice
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What level?

feral cypress
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those dont take headshots

tardy ingot
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Artek, i doubt someone seeing those enemies would still be unsure of shooting scouts and or forget to mention that it was spiky

lusty bramble
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Balloon??

dry pumice
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I work on tech support basis: covering all the basics. "Turn it on and off" style.

lusty bramble
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Turning off the balloon talking scout?

dry pumice
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yes

feral cypress
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i mean lots of people dont do research when playing

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some people definitely believe chargers take bonus headshot damage or something

tardy ingot
tardy ingot
soft grotto
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r1b2 , baloon

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wasn't a charger scout

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I think i aimed a bit too high on the cluster of the tendrils, instead of the top of the head. the angle was like, over a box, against a railing, so it was a difference of a few pixels

dry pumice
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Right. Then yeah, that's a miss. Either your hit the very edge of body hitbox or... Theres a small chance of interference from a 3rd party, but that's tinfoil territory.

feral cypress
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also i saw some old videos where people were still aiming at a giants head area and getting damage hitmarkers even when the head was blasted off

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is that patched

mossy aurora
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if u saw an orange hit marker then it was a desync issue

soft grotto
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shouldn't have been desync, i'm host in our lobbies

mossy aurora
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ok that rules that out

feral cypress
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orange hitmarker isnt even the crit hitmarker, its the kill hitmarker?

mossy aurora
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yes

soft grotto
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i didn't see a hit marker, so i likely missed it by a few pixels and hit the wall next to it, and being a sniper shot, it hard alerted it

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Kinda wish there was a bit more detailed "hitbox" info on the wiki

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i suppose tho with the game being an evolving game, those things are always subject to change, so it wouldn't make good sense to have it there.

mossy aurora
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lol evolving

soft grotto
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like, there's no page explaining what the occiput is Edit: don't mind me, I didn't scroll down enough.

feral cypress
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occiput is back of the head

ocean spindle
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there's an image about the weak-

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yeah

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the weak zones of the enemies

soft grotto
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yeah, my bad

ocean spindle
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take into account different enemies, different multipliers
shooters have a gigantic weakness in the back of the head, makin u can even bonk em with a hammer there and insta kill em, no charge needed

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:]

summer matrix
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are there benefits or rewards to completing missions in secondary/overloaded or is it just for funsies

ocean spindle
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funs :D

past mesa
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It is the only way to play missions

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Pe or bust

dry pumice
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TL:DR - optionals are for fun and for bragging rights only

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Some more than others

craggy pier
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optionals arent optional if you're a chad

past star
lone mortar
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@winged turtle u on?

craggy pier
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they making bread outta him

winged turtle
lone mortar
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have fun Shlorp

past mesa
winged turtle
spring gulch
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does killing all enemies in a room reduce the size of a security alarm wave?

spring gulch
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dang

ocean spindle
spring gulch
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so wait

ocean spindle
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waits

spring gulch
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lets say the alarm spawns 20

soft crater
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diminished 13
Full 25

jagged shore
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i think that's kinda besides the point lol

spring gulch
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so if i leave 5 enemies alive before the alarm, ill have to deal with 25 total

past mesa
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Yeah

spring gulch
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okay

ocean spindle
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yeh

past mesa
spring gulch
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?

past mesa
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There is a minimum and maximum that can be alive

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So you can ride that line

ocean spindle
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tho usually leavin enemies sleepin in ur room and then activatin the alarm means u gotta deal with em immediatly

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which isnt

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good

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those r pro strats for like people with 1k hours

spring gulch
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i meant zone, not room😅

ocean spindle
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oh ksmdk

spring gulch
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im still trying to clear the first level :-:

ocean spindle
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well um, if they r in different rooms there could b the possibility nothin goes there and so they stay sleepin
but if alerted enemies still go through that room, they can wake em up, maybe if one of them stops and screams

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enemies spawn from 2 rooms away
the room ur in its 0, then 1, then 2, in that 2 room they will spawn
i think thats how it worked

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so u dont need to clean every single room in the entire zone, but if theres a room right next to the alarm door

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it might b worth goin in, cleanin enemies, and bein safe

spring gulch
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okie

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thanks for clearing that up ^^

ocean spindle
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is no worries, good luck defendin :3

past mesa
runic bison
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Why are the bots so freaking dumb in this game. You can’t control them. Can’t tell them to not just start shooting randomly. Pain in the arse!!! Only use are their turrets and even then it’s hard as. I wouldn’t recommend this game to a Solo player

craggy pier
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you can tell em to place turrets if you use command menu Q-> deployables

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as for the rest yes you have to be patient

turbid horizon
runic bison
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As I said. Only use are their turrets

neon gust
turbid horizon
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Yeahhh

neon gust
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also this is a strickly a coop game

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you brought this to yourself

icy cave
runic bison
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Aye. Sussed out now

neon gust
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hopefully you'll read the store page next time!

turbid horizon
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The game is not supposed to be played with bots

runic bison
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The matchmaking takes forever so had no choice but to try it solo

neon gust
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be a smart consumer not a stupid one!

winged turtle
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the pvp balancing in Sim City 4 is dog water

icy cave
runic bison
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So I need to find a group on Discord rather than in game

neon gust
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yes

turbid horizon
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not really the games fault tbh

icy cave
turbid horizon
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One of the things we can’t blame them for

neon gust
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matchmaking was added because stupid people on steam wanted it even tho the game its not for i t

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most of the people were on the discord anyways

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matchmaking just split the community for no reason

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and have to be constatly redirected to the discord server

turbid horizon
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What are they gonna do, shut down discord LFG’s?

runic bison
craggy pier
turbid horizon
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If it was in from the start it would have been different

neon gust
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its more personal
you will actually make friends

turbid horizon
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This too

neon gust
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matchamking full of cheaters

turbid horizon
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Met a lot of fun ppl here

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Got bullied

icy cave
turbid horizon
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Was super fun

icy cave
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Steam discussions people can go kick rocks honestly they have the worst takes

turbid horizon
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Yeah

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I hope they stub their toes

winged turtle
neon gust
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so yeah, matchmaking its shit dont use it, use lfg since its healthier and you can actually get people ban from cheating, you just gotta redo your lobby, and when it comes to bots theres a guide i made on steam if your interested but bots are design to just fill in the slots

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2player 2 bots its intended

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not 1 player 3 bots

turbid horizon
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If you find a cheater, report em to @uneven gulch

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Try to record it

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It’s fairly uncommon

icy cave
turbid horizon
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I mean

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It’s a damn good guide

icy cave
turbid horizon
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Yeah

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Now his videos on the other hand…

icy cave
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you think I really hate @craggy pier ?

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well.... yes

icy cave
turbid horizon
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give us the lore breakdown

runic bison
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Thx black dragon

turbid horizon
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honestly his videos on weapon balance really helped my rundown

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Thx mr dragon

icy cave
turbid horizon
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No i meant on why you hate azert

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Give lore

neon gust
# turbid horizon give us the lore breakdown

4 prisioners that are ssuper jacked and healthy and super sexy without shirt (specially the irish one) go down into the complex uncovering the romance between henrikson and shaeffer

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there something about some sickness and monsters

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but that just extra

winged turtle
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"hands off cocks"

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"we've got a monster down here"

turbid horizon
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can’t believe it took them 7 rundowns to add the schaeffer/Henrikkson makeout session

icy cave
turbid horizon
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Oh right

icy cave
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😮

winged turtle
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its a messy triangle

turbid horizon
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So that’s the twist

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He’s cheating on Henrikkson

icy cave
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You think henriksson knows???

turbid horizon
#

Idk, he’s a pretty good hac-engineer

winged turtle
turbid horizon
#

He might’ve found out

winged turtle
#

sorry

#

"memoir"

icy cave
#

That's why schaeffer says maddox's body is "gone"

ocean spindle
#

bots slanderin again

#

they r not that bad qwq

icy cave
#

God the lore is dark

neon gust
turbid horizon
#

i do miss the level reviews but I know why you don’t do them anymore lol

craggy pier
icy cave
neon gust
turbid horizon
#

Unironically yes, the og R5-R6 reviews were some of the funniest shit I’d seen

neon gust
#

game dyin g too

turbid horizon
#

Was sad that no R7 level reviews, then alt hit

neon gust
#

and 10cc kinda dont care

turbid horizon
#

Yeaaahhh

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Still fun to watch tbh

icy cave
turbid horizon
#

And also you made me discover Carpenter Brut from KDS Deep

neon gust
#

if 10cc dont really give me somthing worthy to talk about then you know its kinda difficulty for me to sit there for hours just trying to talk about a re-release of a rundown

winged turtle
turbid horizon
#

which is a BANGER artist

spare smelt
#

Any tips for R1C1? My GF and I are new to the game and are struggling a lot with this one. We typically run with 1 Computer using a bio scanner because they are great at pinging, and everyone else has burst turrets. I've tried running with a sniper but my GF thought maybe it would be better if the AI had it. Thoughts?

turbid horizon
#

Wheat

spare smelt
#

We typically hold down the fort from the bridge area

turbid horizon
#

Wheat post it

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Post the thing

spare smelt
#

Lmao is R1C1 notorious or something?

winged turtle
# spare smelt Any tips for R1C1? My GF and I are new to the game and are struggling a lot with...

Captain America: puts foot on chair "So you are having trouble with R1C1"

a reactor is ultimately 3 parts,
1 Wave Defense
2 gathering resources in between
3 getting the code into the terminal in time
If you already know how R1C1's reactor works, then its just the first two things you need, and they can go hand in hand

the most popular place to defend for many reasons is the bridge tile. the hole in the wall at the south end is a great choke point where you can get angles and focus your sentries, the bridge itself is a perfect funnel if/as you fall back, and its only about a 30 second run to the reactor terminal.

when you start looting after the shooting, you have quite a lot of resources around you to spend as the code person runs out and runs back. and on longer warm up times for the later codes, you have enough time to run forward and loot in previous areas.

when giants spawn having someone with a good weapon for bigs like sniper rifle is useful (especially for hybrids that will launch a 40 dmg barrage from across the map). as well as saving tool by only having 2 sentries down for most waves, saving it for later waves or the waves with Hybrids (4, 6, 8).

this is definitely a 3 sentry + 1 bio tracker level, and when you learn all sentries are not created equal.
Burst is the best all-arounder.
Sniper sentry thrives with bio tracking and the long sight lines on this level.
shot gun sentry is good for tight corners, but goes through tool a bit quickly so it is not well suited for reactors.
Autosentry is in the game.

if you have a bot, they are a boss with the biotracker so give them that, and if you have three bots god go with you.

civic wave
#

basically just shoot well, take resources from the start, your bots would probably enjoy using Burst/Assault Rifle + a machine gun of some kind

icy cave
spare smelt
#

Ah I see

winged turtle
civic wave
#

grab resources between waves, you can burn all the resources in the first zone before you progress

civic wave
#

other than that it's really just playing well enough

spare smelt
#

I've managed to get to wave 7 about when I play with the 3 bots

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but that's it

neon gust
#

im just sitting here waiting for r8 just like everybody else

winged turtle
spare smelt
#

Uh oh

turbid horizon
#

yeah :(

#

was really hoping for R6 to be different but it probably won’t be

icy cave
spare smelt
#

My GF isn't necessarilly the best shooter either... She prefers to run back and get the code or run out for loot

turbid horizon
#

I mean probably, hopefully new environment and enemies can pull weight

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And objectives

icy cave
neon gust
turbid horizon
#

Me too

neon gust
#

so hopefully r8 will hit me better like that

hidden ridge
icy cave
turbid horizon
#

Gotta get on that remnant 2 grind after I finish my D1

icy cave
#

Just a couple of R5 runs now and then

neon gust
#

lot of hunt showdown, elden, 5k

turbid horizon
#

12 days left

icy cave
turbid horizon
#

Same

winged turtle
icy cave
#

Dunno what 5k is tbh

neon gust
#

its in alpha

turbid horizon
#

I might replay it for Frenzied flame and Elden lord endings tho

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I did simp ending on first playthrough

winged turtle
icy cave
spare smelt
# winged turtle > 3 bots? God go with you

So I have had best success with having two turrets facing towards me/the bridge placed by the hole in the wall, and then one turret further back for support as the team runs back to cover the coder

icy cave
spare smelt
#

ofc that means the 3rd turret has less to deal with and is kinda conserving ammo

neon gust
#

potential

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not penis

#

stop it

spare smelt
#

So one of us should run a sniper, but what about a primary? I've really been enjoying the gun that is a double tap but Idk what would be best for crowd control

past mesa
#

P mom

winged turtle
neon gust
#

let her defend

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with the bots

icy cave
neon gust
#

you bring sniper

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and go for codes

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that what i did when i played with my gf

spare smelt
#

What is so special about waves 4,6, and 8?

neon gust
#

lots of giants

hidden ridge
spare smelt
#

also is there a special ending/ glitched 9th round you have to run through?

hidden ridge
#

not sure about 4 and 6 but 8 has 3 hybrids 3 giants

spare smelt
#

Damn

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I usually run pistol 2ndary

winged turtle
#

let her practice shooting if she isn't comfy with it. its important

icy cave
winged turtle
spare smelt
#

Oh

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So then you have to RUN BACK???

winged turtle
#

yuuuup

spare smelt
#

Through all the sleepers???

icy cave
hidden ridge
spare smelt
#

With no ammo???

hidden ridge
#

To earn A LOT of time

spare smelt
#

Wow

icy cave
spare smelt
#

Oh that's fine

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as long as there's no big gues

neon gust
winged turtle
icy cave
#

Just clean out reactor wave. and go

spare smelt
#

Right so last attempt we did we ran a bit too far and got overrun though

winged turtle
#

leave the code person behind

spare smelt
#

to die?

hidden ridge
# spare smelt Through all the sleepers???

I dont know if Wheat Throne explanation had it BUT one thing you need to know is that reactor always spawn the same amount of enemies, they dont "continuously spawn" until you put code, they just have a set amount

winged turtle
spare smelt
#

Also- AI are stupid and won't pick up the better loot. Is there a way to make them pick specifics up?

spare smelt
#

No way

winged turtle
#

if they won't let go of medi, make them spend it

spare smelt
#

So they use crappy health items?

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Good idea

winged turtle
#

if they won't let go of ammo, spend your's

spare smelt
#

That's hilarious

winged turtle
#

bots are a skill of their own

spare smelt
#

Yea the best I did with 3 bots was I got to wave 8

#

What would be a good primary gun for the stage?

#

sniper secondary ofc but what primary?

winged turtle
#

there are a few great ones, find one you are comfy with, you said you like double tap?

spare smelt
#

Yea 🙂

#

That's usually my go to but I've seen that there can be better crowd control

winged turtle
#

double tap need both rounds from the burst to hit head to be efficient which is tough with the recoil

#

carbine, and hel Shotty are better crowd control

spare smelt
#

Gotcha

ocean spindle
#

hel shotty? this was r1c1 rights

spare smelt
#

yea

#

I'd think a shotgun would be bad though because you don't want to get close with this many

ocean spindle
#

that was what i was thinkin
hel shotty works very well with piled up enemies but as this is a long corridor, u kinda just shoot one by one as they trickle down :^

#

carbine n stuff think would b better they also have more range

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which means shootin enemies from afar before they get to u

spare smelt
#

What should I give the 2 bots?

#

Also- There are different kinds of snipers, right? What would be best do you think?

#

I went with the Konning but it seemed like it wasn't 1 shotting

winged turtle
#

when we say sniper we mean Sniper Rifle

spare smelt
#

Plus, my primary took long to reload

winged turtle
#

Precision Rifle is, uh, a tired meme

spare smelt
#

It's literally called Sniper Rifle in game?

#

Oh lmao

#

Is it bad?

winged turtle
#

its they all got a the fancy name, and a usuable named

craggy pier
spare smelt
#

No wonder we did so porely that round...

#

poorly

#

I kept shooting at the head only for it to keep coming

ocean spindle
# spare smelt What should I give the 2 bots?

usually long range automatics work best with em!
machineguns assault rifles... those r the things that work with em cause they shoot from afar, they shoot in bursts and they dont do as much dmg if u accidentally walk in front of em!

winged turtle
spare smelt
#

So I assume you all are GTFO vets then?

ocean spindle
#

um

#

me is not

#

i still need to learn

winged turtle
#

uhh vet? no,

#

hmmm

#

ambassador more like

craggy pier
spare smelt
#

Ah

ocean spindle
#

i got, many advices from this channel too

#

:3

spare smelt
#

Yea I was looking at some of the later enemy types in the Wiki... INVISIBLE ENEMIES??? WTF

winged turtle
#

just passingnit forward

ocean spindle
#

ohhhh spoils

#

qwq

winged turtle
#

avoid spoilers, new enemy reveals are great

ocean spindle
#

got spoileds

spare smelt
#

Oh

craggy pier
ocean spindle
#

i usually go with assault rifle or burst rifle

spare smelt
#

Okay I no spoil more

past mesa
#

I mean

ocean spindle
#

:D

winged turtle
#

hit us with it

past mesa
#

You spoiled one of like 4 good revels in the game

#

Like at this point return it

spare smelt
#

Damn

past mesa
#

Unfo

#

Games over gg

ocean spindle
#

nooo qwq

spare smelt
#

Nah I like the game though

ocean spindle
#

u still can b surprised

winged turtle
#

multiple failed R1C1s, its too late lol

past mesa
winged turtle
#

way over 2 hours

ocean spindle
spare smelt
#

Whattttttt just because I failed that many times it's over for me>

#

?

past mesa
#

Na you can return it anymore

dry pumice
#

context please

#

i desire to insert myself into this conversation

spare smelt
#

I'm just learning 😢

ocean spindle
#

always believe in urself

past mesa
ocean spindle
#

pat pat

spare smelt
#

For context, My GF and I got the game like 5 days ago

winged turtle
spare smelt
#

R1C1=hard

past mesa
#

But don’t spoil the game man

#

This games is way way better when you don’t know how it works

spare smelt
#

In this chat you mean or for myself? Or both I guess

past mesa
#

Both

spare smelt
#

Well it's certainly scarier

past mesa
#

We just say spoilers when ever

#

Cause we have been playing the same shit for 3 plus years

spare smelt
#

Right

#

Well this has been a great welcome to the community so far 🙂

#

I'm glad I have like 7 rundowns to go through

past mesa
#

so try to avoid content once you complete up to c1 in all rundowns

ocean spindle
spare smelt
#

avoid context?

past mesa
#

You will pretty much have seen everything

winged turtle
#

come in with questions, leave when its answered, for a while at least

past mesa
past mesa
spare smelt
#

Like after C1 don't look stuff up?

past mesa
#

That is the hardest the game gets

dry pumice
#

Game objectives be like little puzzles

past mesa
dry pumice
#

if everything is spelled out to you it kinda gets boring

#

easy clears, but you know...

spare smelt
#

Ah

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I see

dry pumice
#

Probably rich coming from me

past mesa
icy cave
past mesa
#

You will pretty much have seen everything by then

spare smelt
#

Why only up to C1?

winged turtle
#

that when most reveals are revealed

dry pumice
#

Because C2+ is where real bullshit starts

spare smelt
#

In C1 or before?

dry pumice
#

The real ass destroyers

past mesa
spare smelt
#

I see

#

So what is so special about after C1?

icy cave
spare smelt
#

Or is the point it gets repetetive?

winged turtle
#

going into D and E missions blind is really rough, but C missions while you are still blind is still pretty fun

spare smelt
#

I see

icy cave
past mesa
spare smelt
#

So I just stops being as easy/fun?

past mesa
hidden ridge
spare smelt
#

Fun but very hard

past mesa
#

But if we took you into the levels rn you wouldn’t really understand why it is

winged turtle
#

with my irl group, we go in blind until C-ish tiers, then i do research and tour guide them through the reat

icy cave
turbid horizon
#

eh

spare smelt
#

Does every rundown introduce a new feature?

#

and new enemy types?

icy cave
turbid horizon
#

Did every rundown introduce a new feature? Maybe

spare smelt
#

Or like- is it sometimes just more levels

winged turtle
turbid horizon
icy cave
turbid horizon
#

Variants, yes

spare smelt
#

Hmmm

#

and new guns?

#

or are the guns consistent

turbid horizon
#

I will not look at charger scout and be like “hmm yes new enemy”

winged turtle
#

you have al guns available always

spare smelt
#

lol

dry pumice
#

except one

winged turtle
#

the only progression is unlocking the next level and cosmetics

spare smelt
#

gotcha

hidden ridge
winged turtle
spare smelt
#

Also what is the whole ALT prefix I've seen online?

#

Is it just a harder version or something>

dry pumice
#

Oh god

winged turtle
#

re-releases of originals

dry pumice
#

Should i?

hidden ridge
#

Re-releases of old rundowns

spare smelt
#

I see

winged turtle
#

Rundowns used to be seasons, now they're getting released and staying in the game

icy cave
turbid horizon
#

Every other rundown had a new enemy type

winged turtle
#

yes*

dry pumice
spare smelt
#

I see

dry pumice
#

Also there's a lore reason for them, but that's a can of worms so large - they'll eat you alive

turbid horizon
#

Hybrids, Birthers, tanks, Flyers, snatchers

spare smelt
#

Ooooo

turbid horizon
#

And R1 had shadows/chargers

spare smelt
#

I am curious about the lore actually

winged turtle
winged turtle
spare smelt
#

Well yea

turbid horizon
#

No

hidden ridge
#

Dakstar couldn't contain himself, he kept unloading spoilers without an end in sight

spare smelt
#

How to access?

winged turtle
#

theres a lot of lore

spare smelt
#

I'm just pretending I didn't see dakstar spoilers

winged turtle
#

@grizzled widget

spare smelt
#

Oh boy

#

Do you get lore through the terminals?

dry pumice
#

Just go to #gtfo-lore and read the pinned "For dummies" document

spare smelt
#

Gotcha

dry pumice
#

It got it all sumarised to the best of local lore enjoyer's ability

#

It got quite insane once R7 happened

#

We got hints of the insanity in R6 but we didn't know

spare smelt
#

Damn

dry pumice
#

And then ALT R1 releases and new lore bits confirm out suspicions

spare smelt
#

was the lore all planned or did the devs kinda just make it up as they went around?

dry pumice
#

Absolutely the latter. Well, like 97% that its the case.

#

I think there's a little bit of FNAF Lore syndrom going on here

spare smelt
#

yep

dry pumice
#

Where some lore is straight up based on what lads in #gtfo-lore were discussing

#

We got literal biologists and people who wear protective suits for a living in there

spare smelt
#

all I know about lore stuff is CRATER

#

Oh damnnnn

#

That's cool

#

Okay so if level difficulty was on a scale of 1-10, where would R1C1 be placed?

dry pumice
#

uuuuuh

spare smelt
#

Oh wow...

dry pumice
#

nah, that's too low

#

4-5, i'd say

spare smelt
#

I assume all levels before that are a 1 or 0 then

dry pumice
#

because things like R7A1 exist, you know?

#

I think that's a safe 1

spare smelt
#

I mean... they were mad easy

dry pumice
#

People get Great Filter'd by it all the time

spare smelt
#

Do they rage quit?

icy cave
dry pumice
#

No, they just fail once or twice

spare smelt
#

Oh... welp

dry pumice
#

And then we poste them copypastas of how it works

hidden ridge
dry pumice
#

That much is true, yeah

#

But then again we do have all the filtering

spare smelt
#

I've definitely failed it like 8+ times

dry pumice
#

You can't say a filter level is easy

turbid horizon
#

Yeah easiest C probably

dry pumice
#

That's not how it works

spare smelt
#

Partly because of dsync though...

turbid horizon
#

I mean

#

You can

icy cave
#

Like R1C1 is the easiest C level, the easiest reactor. it's a 2

turbid horizon
#

It can be a filter but still be relatively easy

#

Remember- this game is hard

spare smelt
#

and I was playing it with players who hadn't played before but still

dry pumice
#

Then what is R6A1 then? A 0?

turbid horizon
#

No

icy cave
turbid horizon
#

It’s harder than R7A1

spare smelt
#

No trust me I like that the game is hard

sturdy glen
#

is r1c1 easier than r3a3

turbid horizon
#

Yes

icy cave
hidden ridge
dry pumice
#

PE? Absolutely yes

turbid horizon
#

What PE

sturdy glen
#

r3 artek

spare smelt
#

Better sense of accomplishment when you beat a level if the game is hard

sturdy glen
#

the reactor

icy cave
dry pumice
#

ahhhh that one

turbid horizon
#

bruh

dry pumice
#

Yes.

#

Still easier.

sturdy glen
#

actually ig a3 has backspawns

turbid horizon
#

Yeah

spare smelt
#

what

icy cave
turbid horizon
#

And that massive wave of giants

spare smelt
#

backspawns?

sturdy glen
#

if it didnt have backspawns id disagree but now that I think about it

spare smelt
#

like they spawn behind you?

turbid horizon
#

Right?

sturdy glen
#

blind its defo harder

icy cave
#

yes

sturdy glen
#

r1c1 has no fuck you moments

spare smelt
#

Oh no

turbid horizon
#

K yeah i agree

#

B1, R7 is probably harder tbh

spare smelt
#

What about the giant missle launcher dudes with lots of health though

turbid horizon
#

Or was harder

spare smelt
#

Esp because you haven't seen them before

icy cave
#

R1C1 is just aim forward and click

turbid horizon
#

Now it’s probably easier

spare smelt
#

What 😭

#

Damn

icy cave
turbid horizon
#

I miss when R7B1 spawned more than 2 flyers

spare smelt
#

I find the stealth to be really easy but the point and shoot to be harder

dry pumice
hidden ridge
#

R6A1 harder than R7A1 I dont know

#

R6A1 didnt have a scout, right?

turbid horizon
#

It defo is

dry pumice
#

Nope

#

B1 did

turbid horizon
#

Yeah no scout

#

1 checkpoint

hidden ridge
#

Bha

hidden ridge
icy cave
spare smelt
#

Also... How tf do you meele some of the bigger dudes?

#

Like scouts

turbid horizon
#

Forward extract but it was way slower and wayyyy more enemies

icy cave
dry pumice
spare smelt
#

get them behind the head where the crit is?

dry pumice
#

The die from like 3 perfect hammer backstabs + an extra

#

Scouts die to fully charger hammer and spear to the head always

spare smelt
#

Can you make AI kill dudes in stealth?

dry pumice
#

Not so much the case with knife and bat

icy cave
spare smelt
#

I haven't found a command for it

dry pumice
turbid horizon
#

R7C1 is a beast of a level due to bugs and unclear features tbh

dry pumice
#

Otherwise the game would play itself

spare smelt
#

Oh my Fuck

dry pumice
#

No developer wants that

spare smelt
#

But if I had real people they could

turbid horizon
#

I hate how for new players, the error is a surprise on C1

spare smelt
#

So why not the AI?

dry pumice
#

Because the game would play itself

icy cave
turbid horizon
#

Yeah

spare smelt
#

Alright valid I guess

turbid horizon
#

R6C1 was a nice level

#

I really like it

dusky tiger
#

If you had actual people theres always a chance for a fuck up lol

icy cave
#

yes but 4 sentries

hidden ridge
#

I've mixed feeling about R6C1

dry pumice
#

Bots are placeholders for real people. They're better than no gun at all, but the game is still designed with a coordinated team in mind.

spare smelt
#

At least they swing when they are up

turbid horizon
#

That means 3 extra people that can fuck up lol

hidden ridge
#

I liked it but it felt like it tried to use setpieces a lot

dusky tiger
#

True lok

spare smelt
#

My team is very uncoordinated...

dusky tiger
#

Practice.exe

#

Or yknow
3 2 1 go

spare smelt
#

How far do you think you can reasonably get with two bots?

dusky tiger
spare smelt
#

and a friend

dusky tiger
#

Hmm

#

Depends on the rundown

dusky tiger
#

I could make it till c2 Pe for r7

#

After that absolutely not

turbid horizon
#

I think it was a really fun level that prepared new players well

spare smelt
#

could you do R1E?

dusky tiger
#

Wot

icy cave
spare smelt
#

Oh really?

dry pumice
#

R2E1? Absolutely not

hidden ridge
dry pumice
#

Absoutely not

spare smelt
#

What is the last R1 level?

hidden ridge
#

R2E1 No.

dusky tiger
#

D

spare smelt
#

Oh

icy cave
turbid horizon
#

People have

#

It’s not easy

spare smelt
#

Could that be done with 2 bots 2 ppl?

dry pumice
#

People survived gunshots to the head too

#

Not an argument

spare smelt
#

Lmao

turbid horizon
#

R2E1 done with bots but hard

icy cave
turbid horizon
#

Yeah

dusky tiger
#

The bots either go doom slayer

#

Or

icy cave
#

So no

spare smelt
#

I see

turbid horizon
#

Reasonably I’d say R2 up to D1

dusky tiger
#

Walk into a horde of 30 enemies trying to melee them

#

Its a roll of the dice

spare smelt
#

So having a full team is crucial then

turbid horizon
#

D2 is really hard with bots

dusky tiger
#

Anything below c yea

spare smelt
#

I don't quite get why

icy cave
#

The top cracked dudes. yes they can do it

turbid horizon
dusky tiger
#

team based game

dry pumice
hidden ridge
icy cave
#

VERY

dry pumice
#

You can get away with like 1 bot on biotracker duty, but that's about it

past mesa
#

Why

#

Are

#

We

spare smelt
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Is the stealth harder later on? because that is the only reason I think bots would suck later (Based off of new player perspective ofc)

past mesa
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Spoiling a new

hidden ridge
dusky tiger
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enters spoiler chat

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I am blind

icy cave