gtfo-related-questions

[dry pumice]

And after that you have a frame-perfect reload cancer every time

With a single button too

[rich zealot]

hey chat

[dry pumice]

Hey, new Cat

[rich zealot]

i have a question

does the amount of enemies scale with the amount of players

or no

[sturdy glen]

No

[dry pumice]

Nope.

Its always the same

[soft grotto]

no, the game is balanced around 4 players.

[dry pumice]

You must play as 4, or at least have bots filling in empty slots

[soft grotto]

queue me and a friend playing with 2 bots just now and getting dead because the bot wouldn't get in the security scan

damn you bishop, you asshole.

[rich zealot]

yea

i was only playing with 2 players

me and a friend

was a pain

[next socket]

Why did Garganta employees forget to put tool refill packs in R5C2? Are they stupid?

[rich zealot]

was wondering why

[lone mortar]

Probably used all of it

[next socket]

Those fuckers

[lone mortar]

You are scavengers

[next socket]

Why didn't they think of me for when I would need to deal with the ||class 3 and 4 surge alarms||?

[lone mortar]

So likely hood of finding stuff is undoubtedly hard

I mean

When everyone extracted

Or died

All the security systems are fucked

So yea

[next socket]

Common bad employee not keeping their workstations stocked

[lone mortar]

I mean

[next socket]

You go to the grocery store and they have no nuggies

[lone mortar]

Theres not anyone left

[civic wave]

all this just to say two words

do better

[next socket]

You go to R5C2 and you have no tool refill

It's the same problem

[lone mortar]

[winged turtle]

bots sometimes get Scan-Shy, just hit ESC and change them to player only until the scan is done ffr

[next socket]

Yeah I'm gonna run it down again and not use the sentries until the last bits, rather than wasting all of them on the ||class VI M alarm||

There is plenty of ammo.. so..

[next socket]

Preferrably before you die 🙂

[winged turtle]

yaaaaaa, if its three bots doing that, you are between a bot and a Toothy place

[soft grotto]

holy crap

that's a game changer

[winged turtle]

yeee

[soft grotto]

I'm going to keep pushing for more of my friend group to play though

[winged turtle]

this is correct

[soft grotto]

we have 3 so far, though the 3rd is not always the most... consistant gamer.

[ionic galleon]

Mastaba Revolver or HiCal

[next socket]

Revolver if you're good at clicking heads

[dry pumice]

I prefer HCP

[next socket]

HiCal if you're not good at clicking heads

[winged turtle]

neither revolver

[ionic galleon]

Word

[dry pumice]

Headshots are not my thing

[ionic galleon]

What special would u recommend? I always run Hel revolver on my main slot

[next socket]

with high cal pistol you get punished more for missing (has less ammo) so be aware of that

[next socket]

Hel Revolver is cracked asf

[ionic galleon]

Facts

[dry pumice]

special got a lot of golden boys

[next socket]

Pretty much can't go wrong with that gun tbh

[ionic galleon]

Can u reload cancel on mastaba like hel

[dry pumice]

i heard Combat shotgun is kinda stupid numbers wise, but i think they believe t hat everyone just onetaps biters with point blank perfect shots

[next socket]

There may be better based on the situation, but Hel Revolver is so good at so many levels it's always a good take

[dry pumice]

Veruta got inhumane amounts of ammo, but requires some skill to manage the recoil

[next socket]

You can with every gun, the window is just different

[soft grotto]

is it normal that the automatic reload doesn't work?

[dry pumice]

If feeling lazy - bring Heavy Assault Rifle or Choke Mode.

[ionic galleon]

Aii thanks

[soft grotto]

or does it only work when you pull the trigger on empty?

[ionic galleon]

What are y’all’s opinion on bullpup

[sturdy glen]

Combat shotty is more efficient than high cal even if you 2 shot everything

[solemn flint]

no

[ionic galleon]

Lmfao

[solemn flint]

refuse to use it

never use it

[next socket]

If you take bioscan+ boosters into R5C1 , what happens?

[lone mortar]

No

[winged turtle]

combat shotty, heligunter, the MGs ||HAR|| sniper, choke mod, other ones

[solemn flint]

bullpup is too stupid to be true

long reload, reward for accurancy which isnt matter

[dry pumice]

Fun to use, great aesthetics, reload speed is absolute horseshit

[winged turtle]

there are a lot of golden boys in special, and you list two that are only silvers

[dry pumice]

And i'm the local bullpup enjoyer, so i can attest

[ionic galleon]

I agree it was my first weapon

[solemn flint]

horseshit is an understatement word

[ionic galleon]

Can’t reload cancel tho it’s cancer 😭

[winged turtle]

not reload cancelling is based

[solemn flint]

you need something much heavier to describe the bushrimp reload

[lone mortar]

I can say the same with 20% main dmgs

[winged turtle]

you get to watch more game animations

that look cool

[next socket]

Combat shotgun is great against chargers, isn't it?

2 taps them, right?

[winged turtle]

and with its damage per reload refill, its still more efficeint to 2 tap enemies with it than most other specials are capable of

[solemn flint]

combat shotgun is a good gun in my opinion

[lone mortar]

One tap on close on eye to eye

[solemn flint]

staggering is fun

its just i would go for hel stuff rather than shotty(expect choke mod)

[lone mortar]

Choke mod fun

[next socket]

I feel like people are using it at medium range and not putting it right up the enemy's buttholes and get confused why it's not good

[lone mortar]

No delay between shots

[lone mortar]

Hey man

8shells vs 4 shells in gun

What would you prefer on mid range

[next socket]

Doesn't the combat shotty have 12?

[lone mortar]

Conbat shotty?

[next socket]

Am I stupid?

Buckland AF6

Combat Shotgun

[lone mortar]

If that then yes you have to go up their bum holes

[next socket]

It has 12 in it, right?

Is that what we're comparing?

[solemn flint]

combat shotty is suppose to be used at close range

[lone mortar]

Im comparing pump and choke

[next socket]

oh

[solemn flint]

the low spread make choke mod better at mid range

[lone mortar]

What he said

But the ammo in gun makes it more of a close quarter

[next socket]

idk why you wouldn't just use choke or combat shotgun

idk why you'd use the pump

[lone mortar]

I like the pump

Its versatile

[next socket]

But I haven't used it more than a couple times

soo

[lone mortar]

Decent dmgs

Very good stagger in my opinion

And overall a good weapon to keep checks on ammo efficiency

[solemn flint]

the pump pack a punch

when u need something with high damage close range with more bullet

combat shotgun is more of a staggering than damage dealing shotgun

[weary mesa]

If only they didn't suffer from Shotgun bug

[next socket]

That costs 5,000 points that I don't have

[solemn flint]

just kite the round

[civic wave]

auto reload, despite being a feature in the menus, does not exist for whatever reason

[hearty aspen]

at least it feel a tiny little faster now,then again you can brew tea while waiting for it to reload lol

also it damage is that of a smg (1.91) so ughhhh....ya wanna use carbine instead?

[tardy ingot]

Isnt that setting that you reload when pressing left click while empty?

[civic wave]

Maybe, idk

All I know is it that the name is misleading, never thought it worked

[sturdy glen]

thats what it is in every game

[civic wave]

Huh, well then

[rose stump]

I'm fairly new to the game and wondering what rundown I should start in. I have a full group to play with, but all new.

[lone mortar]

R1

[tardy ingot]

R1A1 is the most basic rundown, but you can play through basically all A-tier missions (probably avoid doing r4/5 optional objectives tho)

[lone mortar]

What he said

[tardy ingot]

if r1 seems a bit bland, dw about it. It gets a lot better in other rundowns

[lone mortar]

What he said x2

[jagged shore]

i feel like the only ones who are going to see levels as bland are people who've played the stuff already

[lone mortar]

250 on r1a1

[arctic marten]

probably doesnt matter too much, my best advice would be that if you're getting steamrolled in b/c in one rundown, try some a/b from another. that said, r4 and r5 are probably he hardest so maybe do them later

[lone mortar]

Level is still fun to do

Guys the [___] . Go get it

[karmic wren]

do we think they will ever take a look at the bullpup its my favorite weapon by far but its just so much weaker then all the other mains

[lone mortar]

If reload cancel was a thing on that mf it can rival all mains

[karmic wren]

i mean its dmg pre refill is so low as well if they just buff that a little i think it be fine as is

[tardy ingot]

eh

[arctic marten]

reload isnt the problem, bullpup just gets no ammo

[tardy ingot]

it would be ok

[rose stump]

Thanks! Thats where we have started, but i wasn't sure if other rundowns did more intro style missions or not. we having a blast, jsut figuring it out is slow XD

[lone mortar]

No has more anmo refils than carbine

[tardy ingot]

it has meh economy, with trash reload while having poor dmg/refill and dmg/mag

[lone mortar]

Idk what ur on about it tho

But true

No recoil is gud

[arctic marten]

?

[lone mortar]

But worse dmgs than the pdw

[karmic wren]

its dmg pre refill is 114.60 compare that to the carbine or pdw at 150s

[lone mortar]

Or did i not remember

[arctic marten]

it gets fewer bullets and dmg per refill than carbine

[karmic wren]

its just so much of a gap

[lone mortar]

Holy shit thats dumb

But okay

My memory is jogged up

[arctic marten]

only wins out in precision dmg per refill, but only by 3

[lone mortar]

Yeah

Overall trash weapon

[arctic marten]

better weak points would increase that, but its really unrealistic

[lone mortar]

Need buff

[arctic marten]

heavy bullpup when

[karmic wren]

ya i mean when your on it with it is just as good as anything but man if your not leading only head shots it fall off so hard compared i mean id love to see a small damage buff or just give it more bullets pre refill and that thing pops off just like the pdw and carbine

[lone mortar]

Better bullpup when

[lone mortar]

It is very good when pairing with teammates

One could imagine mowing down multiple hybrid

I think

[karmic wren]

ya i mean it has like 0 kick good range like over all as it stands it feels great to shoot

[rose stump]

One more noob question for now XD I really enjoy the Hel revolver, but trying to find a good weapon to pair with it, any suggestion?

[lone mortar]

If the animations for the reload bullpup was throwing the gun forward than reaching for the mag loader

It would be faster

[lone mortar]

Pdw or anything you fancy

I always recommend pdw cause of thermal vision tbh

[jagged shore]

?

[karmic wren]

umm soem great pairing depends on what you want wave clear either of the machineguns

[jagged shore]

how you gonna pair pdw with hel revo

[arctic marten]

last time i checked, you can't run pdw and hel revo

[lone mortar]

Oh I thought he try to replace main weapon

Mb

[hardy grotto]

He doesn’t know about the secondary hel revo

[lone mortar]

My bad

[karmic wren]

the high caliber pistol feels like a great back up as well both the hel guns are amazing if you know how to use them im not great with them but my teammate love them

[rose stump]

Thanks! i'll try them out

[arctic marten]

hel revo is so good that you can pair it with prettmuch anything and still win, but I personally use hel gun, either mg, or any shotgun

[lone mortar]

Rambo enjoyer

[rose stump]

I'l try it as an alternative to it some time XD

[lone mortar]

Sheriff style 2 revolvers

[tardy ingot]

Mostly anything

Hel revo is busted

Actual „synergys“ would be stuff lile hel gun/heavy ar/arbalist machine gun

Strengths combined/covering weaknesses would be combat shotty imo

[hardy grotto]

arbalist 👎

[lone mortar]

I dont use any hel guns

Roast me by facts pls

[karmic wren]

the arbalist after the buffs is sooo good

[tardy ingot]

They good

[lone mortar]

Me when i see some1 say MG bad

[karmic wren]

also the heavy smg is great but man that mag is rough

[lone mortar]

Less dmg than the smg

[tardy ingot]

i dont enjoy the firerate buff + its still worse than r6 recoil

just give me my baby back

of HAR

[tardy ingot]

„Great“

[lone mortar]

Old recoil was stoopid

Idk how to work with that

[rose stump]

I apperciate all the suggetions! i'll give them all a go

[lone mortar]

[karmic wren]

how so it hits harder has better range and gets more in the refill dps

[lone mortar]

Oh?

More dmgs in refills?

[karmic wren]

yes its at 138

[lone mortar]

Hmm

But still

[karmic wren]

its right there with everything else beside the kings of pdw and carbine

[lone mortar]

25v40 on the go is not my play really

I just heavy focus anything that can be top priority

So i never stay with anyone

[karmic wren]

if there put a 30 mag on that thing it be one of the strongest mains and if they put a 40 its be so burst not even funny

[lone mortar]

That can be why i suck at hel or lower ammo count in mags

I mean i tried meles to compensate with those weapons but jesus it doesn’t kick me

[karmic wren]

ya im the wave clear guy for my group and you par it and the arbalist and you make things dead

[lone mortar]

Yeah that

If you were on me then I’ll just be the local hit man

[karmic wren]

and is tight maps the hel shotgun is just the best gun

[lone mortar]

Bring high cal or punp instead

[karmic wren]

love the high cal

[lone mortar]

R3D1 speed run

[lone mortar]

They did my boi high cal dirty by 5 dmg less

[tardy ingot]

it would be around pdw at best. So no, not one of the strongest

[karmic wren]

yes they did

the og high cal was my favorite back up

[neon gust]

please for the love of god just put hsmg on the special

[lone mortar]

Pdw stands second or third in overall dmgs ?

[lone mortar]

To weak to stand in specials

[neon gust]

everybody knows that

we of course buff it

[lone mortar]

Ask 10c

[jagged shore]

it's too weak to be a main rn

[neon gust]

its too weak to exist right now

[lone mortar]

I personally think

Or in my POV:

I can 1v6 in close range with smg

[karmic wren]

the hsmg is almost 3-5 in power of the mains right now

[lone mortar]

But i can not do anything when 2 get close to me with the hvsmg

[tardy ingot]

eh

[karmic wren]

im not counting the shotguns cause there special weapons you take as a main

[neon gust]

y'all talking like you hit those stats

[lone mortar]

True

But i do

[neon gust]

nobody here does

[lone mortar]

Same

[neon gust]

specially with that shitty hsmg

[lone mortar]

Im just lying about my prediction

[cold quarry]

Heavy SMG users when the PDW exists

[tardy ingot]

dmr/hel revo/carbine are still better by a ton?

Rifle/pdw/burst rifle too

[karmic wren]

what you have against the hsmg

[lone mortar]

[neon gust]

get that shit on the special

[arctic marten]

its bad

[lone mortar]

All hail the pdw

[neon gust]

fuck them kids

[lone mortar]

Thermal vision is cool (change my mind)

[dry pumice]

Currently PDW is literally the same thing but better. Bigger mag, same damage, same reload maybe? and got thermal as a bonus

[lone mortar]

Except for pre rifle

That shit sucks

[karmic wren]

i mean if you look at damage it does and refill its great and i mean im clearing d lvls with it soooo

[dry pumice]

You're literally just trading off 7 bullets for shits and giggles

[neon gust]

you aint hitting any of that

stop

[dry pumice]

(well... for cooler model and much cooler shooting sounds)

(which is based and i understand)

[lone mortar]

Which side u on

[karmic wren]

for sure agree the pdw is just the best full atuo main by far

[lone mortar]

The bing chilling krrr smg or the pop pop pdw

[dry pumice]

i should try using SMG again

[karmic wren]

what you mean aint hitting any of that? just aim the gun is a laser

[dry pumice]

maybe its not that bad

[tardy ingot]

Better, pdw reload is stupidly quick

[dry pumice]

no reload canceling

[arctic marten]

(it is that bad)

[lone mortar]

Stupendously quick

[neon gust]

(its horrendus)

[lone mortar]

I can dump 3 mag before that mf wakes up

[karmic wren]

look we can all agree the pdw and carbine are what you take as a main they are just that much better then the rest

[lone mortar]

Nah

[karmic wren]

but not counting them most he other mains are good beside bullpup

[cold quarry]

heavy smg users when their 57 damage per mag fails them (it always will)

[lone mortar]

We just want more balance

[arctic marten]

no i take hel revo

[neon gust]

good we putting in the special slot in r6

watch

[lone mortar]

Pdw users when the whole mag Dont stagger

[neon gust]

my sheer anger will get it there

[dry pumice]

are you telling me

[karmic wren]

i mean agree one guy gets a hel revo to

[dry pumice]

this piece of shit

cant even kill 2 chargers

[lone mortar]

What?

[cold quarry]

nope

[tardy ingot]

Hel revo?
Dmr?
Rifle?
Hel shotgun obviously lol

[lone mortar]

The hvsmg?

[dry pumice]

[cold quarry]

also can't kill a giant in the back

maybe if you get lucky with headshots

[lone mortar]

Old dmr

Based for r6 speedrun

[neon gust]

Hsmg more like Lsmg

[lone mortar]

Solo

We call that the solo bollo

[karmic wren]

hel shotgun is amazing but lets not kid that isnt a main its a special you take in the main slot as for dmr and rifle there fine but no where close to as strong as pdw or carbine

[cold quarry]

this is the buffed version of the HSMG too isn't it

it used to be worse

[lone mortar]

No

[dry pumice]

old game balance

[neon gust]

tbf it made sense back then

[lone mortar]

It is the worse version

[neon gust]

not too much now

[dry pumice]

and i swear the patch notes did say slightly increased damage

[tardy ingot]

carbine, yea
Pdw is not stronger than dmr or rifle rly lol

[lone mortar]

My ass

[dry pumice]

this means it could be worse

[lone mortar]

All i see is 0s

[dry pumice]

i propose a +30% damage increase

[lone mortar]

Used old rundown hsmg

[neon gust]

dont worry guys they will buff regulars smg reload speed again

[lone mortar]

Was good

[karmic wren]

the damage output of the pdw is insane they dont even come close to how much damage it puts out

[lone mortar]

Waited for alt hsmg

Bad

My day ruined

My run intention ruined

[tardy ingot]

Dps?
Dmg/mag?
Dmg/refill?
Dmg per bullet???

[lone mortar]

All of it

[karmic wren]

same i was so hyped for hsmg to come back just kinda wish they give it the same mag as pdw and its goated again

[lone mortar]

You can do wonders without even know the stats

But the feels of using it is addictive

[dry pumice]

the only 4 guns i know the damage of are HCP, Choke, Pump and HEL Rifle

Everything else is a mystery to me

[lone mortar]

Mgs?

[karmic wren]

for what the pdw dude it beats basically every main in all those stats be side damage pre bullet

[lone mortar]

Veruta 3.51 per bullet

[tardy ingot]

it litteraly does not

[lone mortar]

Arbalist 5.01 per bullet

[dry pumice]

now i know, but i'll forget

[lone mortar]

Klust i dont remember

[cold quarry]

rundown 6 bullpup and SMG get a 0.05s reload speed increase

confirmed

[lone mortar]

Nah it wont

[neon gust]

0.005

[lone mortar]

Like R5A3 better log wasn’t

That shit suck

[karmic wren]

as someone look at the damage break down of all the guns form there range and stuff its wild how much some weapons do comepared to others

[lone mortar]

No reaction no nothing

[arctic marten]

Machine Pistol 1.81
HEL Autopistol 1.01
Pistol 4.39
HEL Revolver 8.01
SMG 1.86
PDW 2.31
Carbine 2.38 (9.52)
Heavy SMG 2.3
Bullpup Rifle 1.91
Assault Rifle 2.1875
Burst Rifle 2.71 (8.13)
Rifle 5.08
Double Tap Rifle 5.51 (11.02)
DMR 7.51
HEL Shotgun 1.67 (13.36)
Sawed-Off Shotgun 3.8 (30.4)

High Caliber Pistol 25.1
Revolver 14.21
Heavy Assault Rifle 5.01
HEL Gun 16.25
Low RPM Machine Gun 5.35
High RPM Machine Gun 3.51
Shotgun 3.01 (30.1)
Choke Mod Shotgun 3.76(30.08)
Combat Shotgun 2.51(15.06)
Sniper 40.01
HEL Rifle 30.01
Precision Rifle 11.4
Burst Cannon 19(95)

there, no more mystery

[lone mortar]

Just mere eyes googling on the fucking terminal

[lone mortar]

I thought arbalist was 5.01

[vagrant pivot]

has anyone extracted the models for the game?

[lone mortar]

Not that i know of

[arctic marten]

yes, but I don't know where exactly

[tardy ingot]

Dmr, litteraly having higher dmg/mag and insanely more range than pdw

You - its far better at this!

[vagrant pivot]

at least someone else is crazy enough because its a nightmare searching through the files

[karmic wren]

you have to also take into account dmg pre refill

[neon gust]

i think you should take into account that your tweaking

[karmic wren]

cause yes dmr gets more for one mag but good thing we get more then one mag in the game and yes you can do work with the dmr im not saying you cant but if you take a pdw and a dmr you have to play so much better with the dmr to just be as effective as the pdw

[karmic wren]

plus you get a thermal on the pdw on top of crazy stats

[jagged shore]

i feel like a lot of people would disagree with that being a positive

[tardy ingot]

its apositive and negative tbh (thermal)

will eat

Its funny when theres opinions purely on efficiency :0

[arctic marten]

(eva is fuming because dmr sucks)

[karmic wren]

i mean my favorite is the bullpup and its kinda dirt right now

[cold quarry]

BULLPUP USERS RISE UP (I have to reload)

BULLPUP USERS SIT DOWN (I was killed during my reload)

[karmic wren]

but just look at how good things are its kinda hard not to look at efficiency

[dry pumice]

Bullpup is a good gun to start a fight with

you unload the mag and then switch to special

if you're lucky - the wave is not there when you have to reload your special too

So you'll probably reload both, heh

Actually that could be a buff

[neon gust]

Never had issuues with bp reload

[dry pumice]

self-loading mechanism that reloads the gun when its holstered

that would be so cool and make it very unique

[neon gust]

And im the psyco who plays bp and pr all day

[karmic wren]

just saying give the bullpup a little damage buff and that gun is crazy good and also yes plz a little of the reload

[neon gust]

Nah damage buff would make it too good

[arctic marten]

it just needs ammo

[neon gust]

Either pres buff, reload buff or mag size increase

[karmic wren]

as it is right now if it only got damge per refill up its be fine

[neon gust]

Its gonna be better than ar if you give it 2 damage

[dry pumice]

Do you think 50 or 60? I think 60 would suffice.

[neon gust]

50

[junior notch]

Give it ~70/refill instead of 60 and it's got it's spot right there

[karmic wren]

ya i mean its in a odd stop with that precision

[neon gust]

Good vs regular and shooters but shit against chsrger

[junior notch]

Puts the dmg/refill in line with other full auto and you trade high reload time for high prec

[lone mortar]

How powerful if the precision rifle had pierce 2.0

[arctic marten]

it gets 60 lol

[neon gust]

Can we pls give autopistol +4 pen

[lone mortar]

Or pierce 4

[junior notch]

If they give my precision rifle pierce I'll drive across the ocean to kiss them

[lone mortar]

Yeah

Same

[junior notch]

My favorite gun and it's so shit most of the time

[lone mortar]

Not mine tho

But my ocd keep making me act up sussy

Ngl when i say precision rifle idk why it sucked anyways

Maybe too long not using it

[dry pumice]

same issue as bullpup right now

too little ammo, too long a reload

[junior notch]

Really high reload times and not enough dmg/refill

Yep

[dry pumice]

it was okay in the begining

[junior notch]

When it had 12 shots

[dry pumice]

12 whole bullets felt very appropriate

[lone mortar]

But there is reload cancel… right?

[dry pumice]

dont know, i dont do that

i like my reloading animations

i stare at them with passion

[lone mortar]

Same

The only time i do it is while getting my arse bite off

Or reactor wave to be fast

[dry pumice]

especially when being swarmed

admire the luxurious gun finish while something bits off a bit of you thigh

[tardy ingot]

Efficiency for mains is usually very minor in difference

Especially since most efficient guns have a hard time achieving it

Pdw - full auto/low range
Machine pp - full auto/low range
Pistol - low range
Dtr - funky burst

Meanwhile getting 100% dmr efficiency (or close) isnt hard. Plus being able to kill at 4 times the range of pdw without breaking a sweat is a big improvement

Regarding dmg/mag. Its waaaay more important than dmg/refill since its the actual power budget of a gun in fight (reload speed making this more or less important). Carbine is busted due to its insane 114 dmg/mag. And hel shotty… holy damn

Reminder, carbine efficiency is pretty ass

Dmr even has the advantage as a dumping dps gun into chargers since you will always 4 shot them without wasting dmg. Pdw sprays for a ton over time but you will overshoot and waste dmg anyhow

Dont take me wrong, i rate pdw as a top 5 main. But its far off hel revo and carbine

[karmic wren]

Lol ok I can’t help but laugh at the carbine efficiency being ass in what world ?? Are we both looking at the same stats?

[tardy ingot]

8 kills/refill?

thats marginaly above dmr

as ray said before

Burst > efficiency

[grand pebble]

im stuck on a level and imnot sure what to do is anyone able to help

im at the first level of 7 and when i ping the NCR_A02 it just pings on the floor against the wall

and im not sure what to do

[tardy ingot]

check out the ncrs in the room

[icy cave]

its one of the machines

[tardy ingot]

theres gonna be a display thats on

[icy cave]

the one with the turned on screen

[grand pebble]

ye i know i see that but theres nothing i can do to intereact

interact

[tardy ingot]

have the baby in hand and walking around them would also be a thing, but thats kinda oof and a last resort if struggling

[grand pebble]

i had thought it was that

[grand pebble]

baby?

[civic wave]

when you load into the level, there's a crate that's lowered with you

it opens up with a neonate/baby HSU

which you carry to the NCR

[grand pebble]

was i supposed to pick it up at the beginning

[tardy ingot]

yes

lol

[grand pebble]

bruh

[tardy ingot]

why do you think they gave it to you XD

[lone mortar]

It is a wall attached objective

[lone mortar]

Lol

[grand pebble]

i ddint even know it was given to me

[tardy ingot]

Bruh

did you not check the giant box you spawned with?

[grand pebble]

didnt even look at it

or notice it

[lone mortar]

Bro was like wait what we were doing again?

Pls explain mister warden

[grand pebble]

i just went around clearing rooms and progressing

[craggy pier]

Read the objective in the top left it'll tell you what you need to do

[dry pumice]

To be fair it only tells so much

le crumbs

"Take a DNA sample from HSU_235"

Dafaq is an HSU? Where do you find it? How does it look like?

And that's the part where you go find a terminal and QUERY that shit

Then you reach the zone where it should be, find a terminal there and start PINGing it

[red narwhal]

is it possible to play this game without a proper squad of friends beforehand?

[cold quarry]

Theres a good amount of levels that are reasonably beatable with bots

[icy cave]

up to a point yeah

[red narwhal]

How about random people? Is smthn like matchmaking available

[devout bridge]

there is in game matchmaking but I wouldn't recommend it

you can use the lfg channels in this discord to find people to play with

[dry pumice]

Yes and no.
Game prouds itself on being "hardcore" so it can throw some very rough stuff at you.
Levels are divided by difficulty where:
A = Easy
B = Normal
C = Advanced
D = Hard
E = Very Hard

You are reasonably capable of beating up to C-tiers with bots, but Ds and onward will become troublesome. Also forget optional objectives.
Bots also do not participate in stealth nor exploration nor looting routines, artificially increasing lever clear time by like 50% at least.
So having actual people with you is very much preferable.

Games does have an in-game matchmaking but its effectively dead because everyone matches through here via LFG channels
#how-to-matchmake
#lfg-beginners

Occasion griefers do appear, but they're rare and there are things you can do to prevent them from joining.

[red narwhal]

Alright, thank you a lot for the info! I'll try it out

[willow raptor]

yo, what is the first level that i should play?

[strange ocean]

R1A1 if you wanna go from the easiest one

Though basically any 'A' category level is good for getting into the game

Except for R5, it's not so beginner friendly

[willow raptor]

we just tried R1A1 with 3 people. we got to the HSU, after that we got rushed down by many enemies.

Is the idea to hold the HMU until the wave is done? or just run trough it

[latent obsidian]

leg it mate

Make sure you cleared the rooms between you and spawn tho

[dry pumice]

Start from Rundown 1 - A1 and work from there.
This is the chronological order of events AND level development (sort of, too much to explain) and also you will be let down if you play R7 which has more features and then comeback to bland R1.

A = Easy
B = Normal
C = Advanced
D = Hard
E = Very Hard

Work your way up and if you get hardstuck on some brutal level (like a D2 or E1) - then just switch to next rundown and "reset" the difficulty. Then you can come back to the more bullshit levels with more experience.

[willow raptor]

as in, just run back?

[tiny tundra]

Yes

[dry pumice]

Once the HSU scan is done - your objective is complete and you must go back to infiltration point to exfil.
You will be pestered by an infinite horde, but it spawns small squads of like 3-4 enemies instead of usual 10+ so it shouldn't be that bad.

Make it to extraction point and then just hold the line for like 30 seconds.

[latent obsidian]

yes those enemies will never stop spawning

[dry pumice]

The general rule of thumb is that if you complete an objective and an alarm starts - it wont go away. Just extract.

There will also be levels that will intentionally pester you with infinite hordes for the shits and giggles of it, but you won't see them any time soon.

[willow raptor]

alright thanks a lot everyone

[ionic galleon]

how do i get access to the other lfg servers

[latent obsidian]

Go to "Channels and roles" at the top of the chat list on the left and select the option to say you want to use lfg or whatever it is

[ionic galleon]

oooh tysm

[next socket]

Trynna do R4C1 secondary /w bots

Not sure about Hel Revolver as primary

Any better takers?

[cold quarry]

bring a +13 main damage with it

easy mode

[next socket]

What will that do?

2 shot the chargers?

[mossy aurora]

makes it so it 1 shot head shots strikers, breakpoint is unchanged for chargers

[cold quarry]

oh no it won't help for chargers

but the secondary of c1 is just regulars isn't it?

or a mix

[lone mortar]

Omg its ryk

[next socket]

pretty sure it's chargers

[mossy aurora]

charger error after hsu

[next socket]

..isn't it uplink?

[mossy aurora]

i forget honestly

oh yeah im thinking of r3c1

[neon gust]

12 uplink

Both terminal locations are pretty good if you funnel right

[cold quarry]

4c1 is a mixed swarm

regulars and chargers

[lone mortar]

Like chad R7B3

[fair rover]

Is R4D1 main bugged? I mean, you get like 2 wave spawns in between reactor verifications that makes almost imposible to get the codes in time

[lone mortar]

Imagine R4E1 secondary

[cold quarry]

it's just like that

have to fight them off first

[fair rover]

fun

[rose stump]

I know the melee's are all viable, but for a noob, What one do you think I should focus on?

[sturdy glen]

sledge

[fair rover]

Knife > can do cool chained stealth kills, needs skill but can be useful to deal with error alarms or small waves and save ammo but useles against hevy enemies, can kill scouts but needs to be on the back of the head
Bat > same as knife and can one tap locks
Hammer > high damage medium charge and arched hitting angle
Spear > high damage slow charge long range, easiest to kill scouts with, can kill two in one hit if they are close enough

[fair rover]

but yeah, hammer first

[rose stump]

Thanks! weird follow up, but whats the point of the right click attacks in general? i think the hammer and bat stagger, but no idea on spear knife

[cold quarry]

shoves enemies

staggering them

[fair rover]

its the same for al four

1. cancel charge
2. quick stagger

[cold quarry]

useless on bat since every whack does that anyways, but useful on the other 3

[rose stump]

mmkay

[cold quarry]

if you have knife, shoving gives you enough time to charge and stab them before they recover

[fair rover]

you can stager multiple enemies since its a fast attack and that will give you a window do half or ful charge or one of your teamates hit, also if you stagger an alerted enemy it will not scream and wake the whole room

[rose stump]

Good to know!

[lone mortar]

Chances are

You’ll have to do those alone

[mossy aurora]

reactor waves spawn a set amount of enemies per cycle, and because the tiles are quite large + waves have to spawn at least 2 rooms away from the reactor itself, if you aren't holding in the reactor room it can take a while for waves to get to you causing subsequent waves to queue up because they cant spawn due to spawn cap

[weary mesa]

2 rooms away? Try R5C2 secondary shit is funny

[mossy aurora]

Or for that level it's 2 rooms no?

[neon gust]

Yep

😭

[weary mesa]

MM is a hell of a place

[neon gust]

My boy ztriw got a whole reactor on top of him 😭😭

[weary mesa]

Twice

[neon gust]

not once

TWICE

[mossy aurora]

Wait wat how

[weary mesa]

3 held in charger alarm zone and I was on reactor tile

[neon gust]

The second time he was been funny tho

[mossy aurora]

Did u win

[weary mesa]

No China man pulled charger alarm as I was running to them to get help killing the wave

[mossy aurora]

[weary mesa]

Also don’t know if me being connected to an Asia based host mattered

Funny as shit tho

He also had perfect booster and healed me for 40 something every time

[drowsy helm]

im from middle east can i join people in lfg N AMERICA?

[lone mortar]

Dang it @winged turtle already gone

i was pulling a newbie on R2C2

[lone mortar]

any where in the world

with a strong wifi router my brudda

[winged turtle]

[twilit mauve]

Guys does the spear piercing/multi-hits still bugged?

[neon gust]

Yep

[twilit mauve]

damn that sucks

[sick sphinx]

What is the pulse number next to heart for

[noble sierra]

Heartbeat, which is the stamina this game

[fierce walrus]

i am pretty sure you do not take damage from running out of stamina, you only lose tha ability to sprint

[tardy ingot]

1. it never gets halfed
2. as cubix said, you dont lose health

[sweet fern]

huh

🤔

[tardy ingot]

Even at max stamina you will only lose 33% of your speed

usually youd want to stop sprinting at roughly 140-145 stamina since thats when it slows you down the most if you keep on it

[sweet fern]

"StaminaLowMovespeedModifier": 0.667,

yeah only 33% x(

(still feel like more than 33% tho)

[hidden ridge]

I remember a couple of posts of people getting R2D2's waves dropped on them in spite of them all being in the same room

I've also seen people theorize that desync could cause some players not to count towards the "X rooms away" rule

[tardy ingot]

Spawninf on you when you are in one of the side zones?

[twilit mauve]

Whats your thoughts on the rifle? (Drekker Pres MOD 556)

[hidden ridge]

yes

[tardy ingot]

that can happen when the wave is a back spawn

[twilit mauve]

This rifle feel out of place with the existence of DMRs

[tardy ingot]

tho usually when people think it spawned on them its just them opening a sec door, making the wave spawn 2 rooms in there. And then running into them

[hidden ridge]

nono there was video

Waves just started and enemies plopped on them

[twilit mauve]

Is it similar to the Assault and Burst rifle in terms of performance respectively?

[tardy ingot]

Rifle, or precision rifle?

Cuz rifle is way different than dmr and very good

[sweet fern]

Pistol-DMR hybrid

[twilit mauve]

The normal rifle

oh cool

alright

[tardy ingot]

Yeah thats a pistol+ (with less ammo)

[hidden ridge]

Rifle is DMR with quantity in exchange for quality

reload is superfast

I like it

[twilit mauve]

How about the double-tap dmr?

[tardy ingot]

double tap has a theoretical insane skill ceiling

[twilit mauve]

It feels like a niche and I don't think it has a good ammo efficiency

[sweet fern]

double tap kinda sucks

[tardy ingot]

potentially doubling all other main ammo economies

[twilit mauve]

is it a no recoil like the burst rifle?

I tried it out a few times and the recoil really mess up the burst at further ranges

[tardy ingot]

its usually not ranked very highly cuz actually getting that efficiency is stupidly rough

Havent tested myself too much with it

[twilit mauve]

So I guess that's one of the skill problems there

[tardy ingot]

no the skill problem is that you wanna 1 burst all smalls

[hidden ridge]

Most of the people that used in R5 tended to aim just below heads to 1 "burst" normal enemies

[tardy ingot]

Its not a simple hs + bs

Its bshs at once

[hidden ridge]

Whether that's consistently achievable is up to you

[twilit mauve]

hmm

sounds like using the an-94 in some fps games for me

you aim at the body you end up at the head

how about the hel autopistol?

[hidden ridge]

I'll say that an assault rifle has more leeway than what the DTR tries to be tbh

[hidden ridge]

pens and staggers but does jackshit damage, if you can hold a chokepoint, while someone actually kills something, that's nice

[twilit mauve]

and the hel shotgun too. im so confused about it

[sweet fern]

great for stopping charger, ok for crowd control
damage is low tho

[tardy ingot]

utility/peeling gun

Very very very niche and not good otherwise. But if used for its niche well then its definetly fine

[tardy ingot]

Broken if used correctly

[twilit mauve]

How come?

[tardy ingot]

ya know how carbine is rly rly strong?

[sweet fern]

mine for main weapon slot

[twilit mauve]

yeah

[tardy ingot]

carbine does 114 dmg per mag (one of its bigger strengths)

hel shotgun does ~180
And thats without pen (which pushes it to ~360)

[twilit mauve]

jesus

[tardy ingot]

well its actually 187 and 374

gun is insane at staggering and killing stacked up hordes

[twilit mauve]

How about the machinepistol

I watched and looked through some guides

As far as my own research goes, it seems like a rather bad choice

[tardy ingot]

Its decent for a full auto i guess?

Overall more on the weakish side due to its range and hard to control firerate

Has very good dmg/refill and mag thus awesome efficiency

But it suffer from those reasons above

[twilit mauve]

I'm puzzling over the heavy smg

It kinda stranded between the smg and the pdw

[tardy ingot]

it not good

[twilit mauve]

damn

aight

[tardy ingot]

its very bad :c

[twilit mauve]

even worst than the smg?

[hidden ridge]

Personally I think it's just a case of being better choices for what you want from it

[twilit mauve]

I can see why maybe

[hidden ridge]

Like there's no case where I'd rather not take a Carbine instead of HMSG

Or a PDW, really

[twilit mauve]

Heavy smg has lower mag capa but higher damage compared to the normal smg

[tardy ingot]

honestly? Yea

[sweet fern]

the only downside for smg is its dps

below average

[tardy ingot]

eh thats saying it very badly

how it has bad range, the generic full auto issues, low dmg/mag, lowish dmg/refill and ok efficiency

[sweet fern]

(isnt smg do little bit more precision damage than carbine)

[tardy ingot]

thats one of its „strengths“

doesnt matter in the end anyhow

[sweet fern]

true

[twilit mauve]

How about the machine guns in the special weapons section?

[sweet fern]

which one

both are pretty good

[twilit mauve]

oh yeah

The burst cannon

how about that?

[noble sierra]

A niche weapon, mainly to anti bosses and bigs. Biggest strength is against big chargers.

[twilit mauve]

hmm

[noble sierra]

Like R5C2 overload is a good objective for burst cannon to shine

[twilit mauve]

How does the two machine guns compare?

[noble sierra]

It's also really good against snatcher

One has better recoil but slightly weaker stats.

[twilit mauve]

Like the one that has faster fire rate or?

[hidden ridge]

Veruta's good at crowd controlling smalls

Arbalist has windup and less firerate but does more damage

[noble sierra]

The faster ROF one is harder to use but stats wise better

[hidden ridge]

Veruta also allows you to ||kill babies right when they spawn|| which is nice

[twilit mauve]

how does the hel gun and hel rifle compares?

[sweet fern]

you kinda need rely on your teammate if you use bcannon
deals 19x5, cant 1 shot striker (20hp) or 1 burst kill giant (100hp)

[hidden ridge]

I mean, giant will have, what, 5 hp left?

[sweet fern]

do you really willing to swap out weapon during the fight just to kill a 5 hp giant then

[twilit mauve]

so far i can see that the hel rifle does more damage than the hel gun

[noble sierra]

^ yes ofc

[sweet fern]

bruh

anyway decent weapon if you have teammate ._.

[hidden ridge]

I'm playing alone and no bots? ;_;

[sweet fern]

getting chased by whole wave of enemy while your teammates are downed / minding their own business do happen sometimes tho

[hidden ridge]

ah yes

an everyday situation

[sweet fern]

._.

[tardy ingot]

Giant strikers have 120 hp btw :|

anyway, most good main weapons can be used to just spam into them real quick for ~25 dmg

[hidden ridge]

ahhhhh well

[tardy ingot]

still, unless your issue is bbcs (and maybe mom) rather bring sniper honestly

[hidden ridge]

still it's not like 5dmg would have made a difference for that tbh

Since it's not able to one shot strikers anymore I rarely use it tbh

[noble sierra]

For shadow giant I'll also consider burst cannon over sniper

[tardy ingot]

its the easier choice for sure

been trying to do it how nuggies does it (how to snipe them even without pdw) its fun as hell

[drowsy helm]

Tnx

[hot musk]

how do u kill these scouts bruh

i can solo kill giants but these scouts are just different

[fierce walrus]

the safest option is to shoot them with a high damage gun in the head

[hot musk]

i swear there have been so many times i have a shotgun right in front of it and it don't die

[fierce walrus]

alternatively you can fully charge hammer or spear and run at them smashing thier head

wity bat or knife you need back of the head

[fierce walrus]

you would need a couple shotgun shots in quick sucesion

you get like 1 second before it becomes immune

so choke mode can kill it

[hot musk]

ohhhh i see

[fierce walrus]

i dunno about other shotguns

[hot musk]

didn't realize they become immune before they scream

[fierce walrus]

yeah they do

[hot musk]

aight thanks for the help man

or woman

[fierce walrus]

man

[hot musk]

man

[mossy aurora]

Pump shotgun can also 1 shot it in the head or back

[vague bridge]

that's a lie

[fierce walrus]

Depends

[vague bridge]

you wake up the entire room

[fierce walrus]

Yes

[vague bridge]

the safest option is to melee it

and get better with time

[fierce walrus]

but do not risk scout wave

[vague bridge]

plus if theres two scouts you're doomed with that tactic

[fierce walrus]

its easier to fuck up melee

i am not saying melee is always bad

but when starting out it is easier to shoot

[vague bridge]

you cannot fuck up the melee after around 20-30 triumphs

and you cannot get there if you shoot every scout you see

[fierce walrus]

sometimes it might be impossoble to melee scout

[vague bridge]

if the tentacles can reach you

you can hit the scout

most of the time

i can see one or two situations that are a little funny

[hidden ridge]

This depends on your context and on your definition of safest

To be fair, if the scout is alone in the room, you might aswell just headshot with a weapon if you aren't confident

[vague bridge]

that is true

but that situation is also uncommon

[hidden ridge]

That being said learning how to bonk scouts ain't hard

[rose stump]

Is there a general tier list for weapons? Like the safest weapons to take into the known? I generally prefer semi auto non snipers.

[hidden ridge]

If you're confident in your aim take Hel Revolver

If you want something semi-auto and forgiving take Rifle

[vague bridge]

it really all depends on the mission

[mossy aurora]

It does lol

[vague bridge]

theres way too many stats to compare overall

[devout bridge]

hel revoes shines in every situation lol

it's pretty much busted

[vague bridge]

not as well as another gun

if youre going for optimal

[rose stump]

Is that under main or secondary?

[hidden ridge]

Main, since you asked for semiauto non snipers

[vague bridge]

main

[tardy ingot]

Spear
Running

[mossy aurora]

Sure hel shotgun might do things that hel revo can't in very specific circumstances but hel revo still shines in any mission

[rose stump]

Thanks! Any suggestions what to pair with it? I'm open anything.

[devout bridge]

specials depends on the mission and the loadout of your team

[tardy ingot]

Huh?
Well it depends on what shotgun

Choke overkills heavily :|, so does shotty and sawed off

Combat and hel need multiple hits

[fierce walrus]

the greatest strat, what can i say?

[vague bridge]

choke is a good shotgun for giants at distance

[tardy ingot]

What

[vague bridge]

uh oh

[tardy ingot]

Theres a lot to compare

Not way too many :|

[hidden ridge]

Too late coz

[vague bridge]

i exaggerated a little bit

for effect

[hidden ridge]

You're in the middle of Darkeva's angry wave now

[earnest pine]

any safe secondaries for beginners?

[tardy ingot]

Hel revo (for a main) is always at least a 8/10

Obvipusly hel shotty in close quarters is like a 15, but its also ass in other situations

[hidden ridge]

You mean guns, right?

[earnest pine]

yeah

[hidden ridge]

HEL Gun, Normal Shotty but aim at the body...

[tardy ingot]

I just love numbers and thus stats/rankings etc

Obviously not everyone has to like it but

[hidden ridge]

Revolver if you hit the head consistently

[tardy ingot]

High cal pistol

[vague bridge]

doesnt choke outclass shotty in all but one stat

[tardy ingot]

all rounder gun, easy 1 taps on strikers. Can kill giants and scouts well

decent ammo pool

its imo one of the best guns for beginners

[hidden ridge]

Yeah HiCal's nice too

[tardy ingot]

shotgun has range to learn

Hel gun is NOT a beginner gun

[tardy ingot]

reload speed
Mag size

[hidden ridge]

I dont think it's hard, really, since I started aiming for the body with it my efficiency on it skyrocketed

[tardy ingot]

2 very important stats

[vague bridge]

did they change it

i was using the spreadsheet

[tardy ingot]

body shots (if pen) are fine. But you rly wanna headshot

now a beginner will struggle to get pen or headshot and will probably miss due to charge up of 0.2 sec

[tardy ingot]

Reload. Cancel

[hidden ridge]

ehrm I quoted the shotgun

Not the HEL Gun

[tardy ingot]

Oh mb LOL

well yea

Imo shotty is 2nd best beginner gun rn. As versatile as high cal with more upside. Only issue is the range rly

[mossy aurora]

Shotgun in top 5 worst weapons to get aim punched while using though

🗿

[tardy ingot]

is it

[earnest pine]

sounds good tyty

[tardy ingot]

sniper, precision rifle revolver, high cal, burst cannon, choke mod and hel rifle/gun are probably worse no?

^for getting aim punched

[earnest pine]

got many hours of fps pve to unlearn

oh yeah one more thing, whats the practical difference between melee weapon damages and ranges?

[tardy ingot]

uhh

To explain well would be to go very deep into spoiler territory

[earnest pine]

hrm just for generic enemies then

[tardy ingot]

basically
Game is balanced around hammer -> hammer is the best (hits all the important values while having good range)

Spear has extra range but less dmg, stagger and you cant even run (plus other stuff that makes it worse)

Knife: small killer only basically. Quick and agile. Niche

Bat: mix of hammer and knife, so kinda just hammer but weaker in exchange for speed

[earnest pine]

gotchu

[tardy ingot]

Cant go wrong with hammer ever

[nimble summit]

I personally use the DTR for everything. It is one of the better main weapons if you can handle the burst for small enemies and hit both shots consistently. Some people like to aim at the neck to get the recoil to pull the second shot up for the head, but I prefer to hit the first shot on the head and pull down so the second shot hits the body. It works great against chargers as well, three bursts is enough to kill a normal sized charger. And I really like how in a pinch it can be mag dumped on special enemies for a lot of damage in a fairly short time window.

Depending on the level I like to pair it with either the revolver or the high cal pistol.

[lone mortar]

Hey @past mesa

I saw the strat hino used for that 6hrs solo R5E1

[past mesa]

Wouldn’t know tbh

Not a solo player

[lone mortar]

Long kiting and picking off to save ammo or??

I have no idea how to long kite

[past star]

Can I talk to someone who does know?

[past mesa]

Yeah I don’t know the game best to find someone who actually knows the game

They can probs help you

[past star]

Sounds good

[lone mortar]

Damn

Bread is sus

Ngl

[lone mortar]

How about R7D2 terminal and cell placement

I was very lucky on a first try to have both the terminal for code and cell be sitting right on the sec door

Lowered from the usual 32 to 19

[past mesa]

all rng with level generation in this game is linked to your session seed. Things generate in order. From zone index 0 to the max one the. Secondary then overload. Some terminal placements will give you information about other terminal placements the reason why it is changing is because of the resource distribution. Resources splitting into smaller packs can cause the change.

[lone mortar]

Ohhh

So it affects in an scrambled order or ?

[past mesa]

I am not quite sure tbh

There is a very consistent order but it doesn’t really matter

One useful thing to know is if you list key

It will generate the list from zone index smallest to largest

[dry pumice]

what

actually explain this one to me

i see some people sometimes writing shit like "Ammo in ZONE_323_E"

I understand what they're saying, but i don't understand how they acquire this information

Terminals only say the main zone, they do not specify ABCD's

[mossy aurora]

when you ping a resource it tells you which letter it is in

[dry pumice]

wha~

where

[mossy aurora]

bruh

[jagged shore]

on the ping

[dry pumice]

[upper ginkgo]

game knowledge moment

[jagged shore]

it says something like item found in area_x of zone_xxx

[dry pumice]

then what the fuck

[main dagger]

you can also query the resource to see how many uses it is

[dry pumice]

You know what... My bad, i literally never read the ping command after it pings

I only care about the DING and the yellow dot

[ocean spindle]

gtfo players sayin people don't read after not reading :3
i'm kiddin it's actually kinda hard to see so fair i didn't noticed till a while ago either

[past mesa]

They are using meta game knowledge to find boxes of resources to sometimes. Example r2e1 first zone there is 3 fog repellers and one muted booster in a box

If you find the muted booster all other boxes must have fog repellers

[lone mortar]

El nino momento

Definitely a moment to be embedded

[hidden ridge]

Are you serious?

You didnt notice that pinging also said the room?

I can get stuff like not knowing query res says the number of uses

[sacred dew]

blah blah blah, can someone who actually knows the game verify this please?

[dry pumice]

Ironically that's the thing I knew.

[civic wave]

...

[cloud burrow]

Hey guys I just bought the game and really wanna play but it keeps freezing when I try to do the tutorial. Playing on the new handheld the rog ally. Been trying for two days now, if anyone has any advice I’d really appreciate it

[sacred dew]

GTFO doesnt run well on ROG Ally according to what I heard, cause of AMD drivers not because it cannot run the actualy game well or anything

[cloud burrow]

Appreciate the response, is there anything I can do to fix that? New to playing any kind of games on a pc so I don’t know much

[sacred dew]

tbh, I dont own an Ally so not much help here, the only thing i can recommend you do is update your driver https://www.amd.com/en/support

[cloud burrow]

I’ll try that out, appreciate the advice

[maiden iris]

hello guys where i can find french player for play at this game ?

[devout bridge]

check #hc-europe

[maiden iris]

oh thanks !!!

[icy cave]

I wonder how you will handle terminals on the Ally tho.

[latent obsidian]

just curious what your hours are

[dry pumice]

350

[cloud burrow]

I wish I could get that far to see lol, I’ve wanted to play this game for so long and nothing I’ve done has stopped it from freezing at the same point every time

[icy cave]

well let us know. because that's the one mechanic that would really make this game unpratical on a handheld

[cloud burrow]

I didn’t even think of that when I watched all the gameplay on it but I’ll let you know. That’s if I’m ever able to play

[leaden ibex]

@slender hedge whats diamond rank

[slender hedge]

a step above platinum

[leaden ibex]

but like, how do u get ranked

[upper ginkgo]

successfully complete a rundown in order to get your placement ranking

[topaz anvil]

Hitching gang rise up 😔

[cloud burrow]

I want to play so bad man

[topaz anvil]

Find yourself 3 other people to carry you then you don't need to worry

Unless it's perma freeze

and not hitching

[cloud burrow]

I wish my problem was finding ppl to play with lol

[topaz anvil]

Do you get a permanent freeze

or does it freeze while something happens and then unfreeze

[cloud burrow]

I’ve never played before but when I’m at the Home Screen it works fine but as soon as I click training or matchmake it’ll perma freeze and close down the game

[topaz anvil]

o

[cloud burrow]

So sad

The one game I wanted to play the most

[stark harness]

yo, how do i fix network error no connection when opening the game?

[sacred dew]

wait for the server to come back

[glad bluff]

oh is the server down?

[stark harness]

i dunno lol

its been like this for me for a few hours now

[sacred dew]

It's more like a steam maintainance thing

[turbid horizon]

Idk

Steam maintenance is usually 6PM EST on Tuesday

[trail compass]

game works fine for me

but not my friend

wth

[jagged shore]

yeah seems liess so like maintenance and like steam just had issues

[turbid horizon]

Yeah and also some people are fine

[sacred dew]

same but tbh steam is down right now so i was just guessing that it was for maintainance

[cold quarry]

steam is up for me

i think its just having outages

[noble sierra]

Steam is doing rolling maintainance, just wait a bit

[silent scarab]

what do the numbers mean beside completed where it says [1,-,-,-]

[jagged shore]

optional objectives

[junior notch]

Secondary objective, overload objective, and prisoner efficiency

PE being doing all objectives in the same run

[jagged shore]

dash means there isn't one of that for that level

if there is it'll be a number, like 0

if you're starting out then you don't need to worry about optionals until r4

[silent scarab]

thanks!

[harsh swallow]

anyone know how to make vc's

[civic wave]

You don't need to make them, you can choose an empty one that already exists

If you can't see them, check the Channels & Roles section at the top of the discord

[dreamy pecan]

is it normal to see a lot of 6 pack uses in r5c1

[lone mortar]

Yes and no

Would you rather its not?

[dreamy pecan]

im just not sure if someone was hacking in our game

[lone mortar]

No

[dry pumice]

Like a lot? Because 6 packs exist for certain, but I'm unaware how resource rich C1 is exactly.

[icy cave]

Not that rich

[noble sierra]

There's a decent chance to have 6 use packs in R5C1, but a lot? I smell fishy

[icy cave]

Ugh get a shower

[craggy pier]

i found several yesterday was nice so bots dont just pick em up and use em when not needed

[dreamy pecan]

I found like 2x 6 use medipack and 1x 6 use tool. Not sure about ammo

[dry pumice]

meds

Pretty much trash, omegalul

It's fine.

I would be worried if it was 3+ ammo packs in a row.

[stiff plinth]

hello, i havent bought the game yet, but im contemplating

looking for people's insight first

any thoughts?

[dry pumice]

Uh

Lots of them

Any directions of what you could be interested in?

Well first of all: ingame matchmaking is dead, you can only match with people through here #how-to-matchmake

[stiff plinth]

i suppose the team work

[dry pumice]

Game's can be very brutal. There are some levels I do not want to replay ever again. The game is designed around playing with 4 people - you can't play it alone.

[stiff plinth]

i see

[dry pumice]

There are bots, but they are crutches. Some missions are almost impossible with them because they just follow you and can't do any sorts of advanced maneuvers

Like flanking a certain enemy who only takes damage from the back

[stiff plinth]

ah

so ill need to look for a group to play with almost all the time

[dry pumice]

Otherwise: pretty fun game, very immersive and beating missions feels very rewarding.

Yes. Local LFG channels are pretty alive and I can find a squad in like 5 minutes, usually.

Worst case scenario I'll just take bot as 4th guy and give him Biotracker.

Low key preferable to an actual guy.

[stiff plinth]

hm

[agile salmon]

theres a lot of content that can be done as 2 people once you do learn the game but the game is very hard to learn alone

[latent obsidian]

Things to be aware of are that the game session for a single mission can get quite long in some cases. Multiple hours for some levels. Also its a game where as a beginner I'd expect you to fail on a level many times before succeeding, if thats the kind of challenge that sounds appealing you will probably enjoy the game.
On the more positive side there are a LOT of missions available right now which will provide you with hundreds of hours of gameplay easily

[agile salmon]

checkpoints only exist in the "later" added levels and even those checkpoints are lost whenever you quit the game

[latent obsidian]

If you aren't put off by the challenge and length of levels its an amazing game, best thing to do is look at some gameplay on youtube

[stiff plinth]

so like perma authentic in sniper elite

[agile salmon]

ive never played sniper elite but id assume so hahaha

basically if you beat the level you get a cosmetic and a nice little number next to the level telling you that you beat it, but if you die mid level or have to leave for some reason and close the game, then you need to start from the very start

[icy cave]

Expect to wipe a lot.

[agile salmon]

on levels that they added later on in the game, they added checkpoints so if you die mid run youll respawn at the checkpoint but if you close the game you have to restart those levels from the start as well

[stiff plinth]

what does that mean?

[agile salmon]

expect to die and restart the level a lot

[hidden ridge]

Ever played Doom Plutonia?

[agile salmon]

but if you can get over that then imo its a very fun game

[hidden ridge]

Now imagine doom plutonia with ONLY autosaves

and longer maps

[icy cave]

Lots of dying and restarting

[latent obsidian]

GTFO is about learning from your mistakes and doing better next time 🙂

[stiff plinth]

never heard of it

[stiff plinth]

ah

[hidden ridge]

You die you start level from scratch

For all rundowns but r6 and r7

[stiff plinth]

also, ive heard that older rundowns arent done on this server?

[hidden ridge]

They are

[latent obsidian]

the older rundowns that rule refers to are outdated versions of the game files

[hidden ridge]

Long story short that rule was for before the devs decided to put all old content back in the game

[latent obsidian]

its not something you can run into by accident