gtfo-related-questions

[reef mesa]

do we unlock new guns at all, or are the default ones all there are?

[lone mortar]

Sadly yes

Add or change 1 in the data blocks and game goes boom

[reef mesa]

wish there was a progression system

[lone mortar]

Wdym?

[cold quarry]

the progression system is getting rid of the gym shorts you start in

[reef mesa]

unlocking guns as you play

[lone mortar]

The more drip you get

[merry pelican]

how do I make my own voice channel to host a game

[lone mortar]

The more progress you make

[lone mortar]

1:go in any vcs

2: post up a invite (LF1-3 ) in region desire’s

3:wait

4:profit

[merry pelican]

So I make it in something such as general 02?

[lone mortar]

Nah

From GTFO to be correct

[merry pelican]

ahhh ok

[lone mortar]

Dont want more ppl in while you do a squad of 4 right?

[merry pelican]

ty

[lone mortar]

No probs dude

Good luck on expeditions

[dry pumice]

what are we talking about

[ocean spindle]

some sectors are every
special
with bots

sads i think it cool ksks

i don't like the sight a lot but everything else qwq

aaa

love it

[grizzled widget]

videos on lore are basically useless. none are updated regularly if at all. when in doubt, read the "for dummies" doc in the pins of #gtfo-lore

[dull spade]

qwq

bawling

[upper ginkgo]

hammer is just more versatile in general
has better dmg and you get more value overall with less effort

[jagged shore]

hammer can do rapid stealth kills too if that's what you're going for, it just takes a little bit more learning to do well

[fierce nebula]

knife is best for smalls but hammer can take care of nearly everything

[past mesa]

quarter charge back of head kills strikers

tap kills shooters

half ish charge for charger

[upper ginkgo]

can you stop pushing your pro-hammer agenda
it's sickening to see you spout such blatant propaganda
you're neglecting the other melee choices

[past mesa]

and like a 1/3 for scout back of head

[past mesa]

10ish chargers for mom

minus funny

[midnight gazelle]

voxy with "hammer enjoyer" role being anti-hammer

i feel like this should be racism or something

[eternal bridge]

Spear is an another option for solo as well… range can be situational advantage

(and they’re a mean scout killer)

It can be slow, but like I said, you’re kinda sacrificing speed for longer range

But it’s a half charge to kill a small like the hammer does too

[fierce nebula]

yes but it's more useful on the knife compared to the spear

on the knife it allows you to kill smalls and (with skill, scouts)
but how does it benefit the spear? still same number of hits on giants

[devout nimbus]

Why Schaeffer sounding more sane in these new alt r5 logs than in r7,

[dull spade]

opinions on double tap rifle?

[devout nimbus]

Its still r5 which happened before hand right?

[cold quarry]

either he's just. more sane in the alt timeline or he just progressively lost it the longer he spent down here

[dry pumice]

absolutelly latter

[cold quarry]

leaning towards latter

[dry pumice]

no wait, FORMER

definetely former

i've been comparing the logs all day and he's just more insane in the originals for sure

[dull spade]

just trying to figure out if I should use it or not

[dry pumice]

Its decent, longer range Burst Rifle basically

if can kill a biter in a single burst, provided 1 of the bullets hits head

[dull spade]

ah

also is it true high caliber got nerfed?

[cold quarry]

reworked moreso

less damage, way more ammo

[fierce nebula]

yeah it was kinda busted and was just a sniper with of tons of ammo
but now it feels relatively balanced

[cold quarry]

def wasn't a sniper

was more like a choke mod clone

[fierce nebula]

oh yeah

[soft crater]

More so a slug shotgun

But with a weird damage drop after 8m

Because after 8m you wouldn't be able to one shot bodyshot chargers/shooters

But now. You can't do that at all unless you use "Boosters"

[dry pumice]

I kinda miss the old HCP, but you're right... It was too similiar to choke mod.

Hell, one could argue it was inferior to it because of that 8m limitation

HCP was like: "Oops, 8,1 meter i guess i can't oneshot shooters / charger anymore"
Choke Mod (a fucking shotgun): "HELL YEAH, 15 METERS" BANG

[soft crater]

I fucking cringed because a friend of mine kept double tapping chargers and shooters.

[neon gust]

Eh that 8 meter didnt matter too mcuh since everything you fight its cqc, chokemod sometimes doesnt even oneshots since you can miss a pellet here and there and not do full damage

So hcp was more reliable

[soft crater]

From an experienced vet who can't see from the pov of the inept. Eh not the best opinion to base off imo

[sacred dew]

choke mod was like a worse sniper and a worse HCP, it's in the middle somewhere

[soft crater]

[neon gust]

I mean you dont need to have 2000 hours to put 2 and 2 together

its a pistol just dont shoot too far and you were good

[soft crater]

[dry pumice]

now if only it had a good scope

maybe bullpup's scope

[soft crater]

I love how black dragon proved my point in that he can't see it from the pov of the inept

[dry pumice]

immediate best gun

[soft crater]

It's simple but some people are just bad at aiming

[dry pumice]

born to use big iron
forced to aim down iron sights

[neon gust]

I love you

[sacred dew]

you play with a gun long enough and you can always optimize your ammo economy with weapon

[soft crater]

There's a reason some of the struggling players don't like semi-autos or say they're bad even though they're technically better

[sacred dew]

kinda rude to just call people inept and cringe at them for using something they're not that used to

[neon gust]

I mean the game its shit

Since its doesnt really tell you damage number

Nor anything else really

Just vague descriptions

Just like the patchnotes

[soft crater]

I acknowledge it. But I'm tired of sugar coating it

[dry pumice]

kinda based, not gonna lie

[neon gust]

If they atleast gave you some basic numbers people would make better picks and smarter decisions

[strange ocean]

what's the talk about?

[dry pumice]

HCP vs Old HCP vs Choke Mode

vs players who can or cannot use them

[soft crater]

I also just can't when I see people struggle to kill enemies that run in a straight line towards you like R1C1

[strange ocean]

big iron is better than choke mode imho

[soft crater]

Imo chokemod is easier to use

[sacred dew]

never really bothered me in the first place how people use their weapon so sugarcoating it is only necessary when you are that concerned about them

[strange ocean]

but yea that

if one doesn't get used to the big ass recoil hcp has then

yeah

[soft crater]

Most vets often put out just point and shoot

[strange ocean]

Hcp is better when it's in good hands

[eternal bridge]

My concern is how people react to others really when it comes to communication

[strange ocean]

even though the only thing being difficult about it is big recoil

[dry pumice]

What if i told i missed 25% of my Pump Action shots within 3 meters today?

[strange ocean]

happens

[sacred dew]

that's literally how it works, people play too differently to give any solid advice on how to use a weapon, I can tell you how the game mechanics work but not how you should use your guns

[soft crater]

We're those 25% missed shots into teammates?

[dry pumice]

No, granted.

[soft crater]

Damm

[strange ocean]

Just point and shoot

Nothing much more to add

[fierce sphinx]

brand new player

is there an order for rundowns?

I know they got revamped or somethin

[dry pumice]

from 1 and up

[fierce sphinx]

should I still start with 1?

[strange ocean]

no you can go wherever you feel like

[fierce sphinx]

ok

[sacred dew]

yes, that's what I just typed

[strange ocean]

but r1 is easiest

[fierce sphinx]

alr tyty

[strange ocean]

Yea I just noticed mb

[dry pumice]

Going from 1 offers more stable introduction of new mechanics and new tilesets

If you start from R7 - the lower ones will feel bland in comparison

[soft crater]

Og players dislike Alts

But it is what it is

[dry pumice]

OG players are weirdos

Every single level with if-fog is S tier for them by default

shivers

[soft crater]

Masochistic in nature

[weary mesa]

ALT R3 kind of goes hard though

[soft crater]

But levels that used to be pretty difficult being subpar to what they used to be can be disappointing

[sacred dew]

the meta changed

more ammo less hammer

less kiting

[dry pumice]

guns

lots of guns

lots of choice, lots of tactics

[sacred dew]

maybe the devs think that meta makes a better GTFO game

[dry pumice]

HEL Revo exists now

and it keeps existing, much to my shigrin

[sacred dew]

I mean in OG R3A3, a reactor level, dont people just hammer ALL the waves?

[soft crater]

Play R1C1 but only OG equipment

But it's meh nowadays

People will use whatever they want

[weary mesa]

That's OG R4E1 extreme

[sacred dew]

that's OG pre R6

[soft crater]

[sacred dew]

you can talk about the good old days all you want but time to wake up to reality old man

your hammering days are over

aint no more bullshit circle kiting to jerk off your ego

aint no more long kiting so that you can "save the day"

this is the real shitz now

bang bang bang

guns everywhere

bullets be flying

this is how you play the game now

adapt or get left behind

make way for the new wave of GTFO

[weary mesa]

Me on OG R4B2 PE and a guy runs to circle kite the double scan pull in Overload

[soft crater]

[cold quarry]

not for chargers or bosses

[strange ocean]

The second one I agree, the first one not as much

[eternal bridge]

Sometimes…. I really dislike some people based on how they force their “ways” onto others

Like “Must have VC or you can’t play with us”. Or “Be Skilled or you will get kicked”

[weary mesa]

Then don't play with them

[strange ocean]

^

[worthy trail]

no struggling allowed, no requirements allowed

[eternal bridge]

I know but sometimes they don’t put that there

[strange ocean]

If you just see shit like this written down then it's already a red flag good enough to just avoid that lobby

And well if they don't

Iguess just leave after they say that

[eternal bridge]

I’ve already dealt with one of these already before during R7 time.

[weary mesa]

I wish people would post saying they're going to cfoam ladder cheese a level so I can avoid them

[eternal bridge]

Luckily, it was just one fucking stupid person spewing toxicity.

[weary mesa]

And not join the lobby thinking I'm gonna have a good time

[fierce nebula]

the amount of casual exploits done like lmao

[uncut gulch]

Hello, if I am new, where do I start with the game? I am confused about the different run downs and things

[fierce nebula]

start at R1 and work your way to R7

[strange ocean]

^

[uncut gulch]

okay, what would be the best way to play it with people though? because I read that you're not supposed to do older run downs or something in the server rules I thought

so that has me a bit confused

[dry pumice]

You're actually 3rd person today with this very question.

And it is kinda confusing indeed.

[fierce nebula]

the server rules strike again for being outdated

[dry pumice]

Pretty much.

We're done with FOMO shit.

basically: just don't mod your game, simple as

Everything that's inside is yours for the playing

Yes, that.

[uncut gulch]

what?

[dry pumice]

Let me

Basically this game used to operate on season-like basis where devs would add a new campaign and REMOVE The old one

After Rundown 7 they suddenly changed their mind.

And now they are slowly adding new campaigns back with some light touches there and there.

Maybe new enemy here, maybe one less room here...

But otherwise its like 90% the same shit

So don't worry about it

[uncut gulch]

so its the older stuff but reworked, but still the same thing?

[cold quarry]

yeah

[dry pumice]

Yes.

[cold quarry]

like just updated

[uncut gulch]

okay, well that's good. It would be kinda crummy to not get to play the older stuff

[dry pumice]

It appears devs agree with you

We had an entire unique boss fight in Rundown 6

And now its gone

So of course someone on the team was like "we did all that to... Remove it after 6 months?"

"Absolute galaxy brains, we are"

[fierce nebula]

it's still 90% close to it
aside from the load outs and balance changes
but with Alt R5 they chose to rework some levels as a whole but they held the same difficulty-ish

[cold quarry]

it really was the most insane plan

[uncut gulch]

is there still a boss battle?

[dry pumice]

nope

still gone

come back in 3 months

[fierce nebula]

have to wait for Alt R6

[cold quarry]

game has what i'd call bosses but not like THAT scale

[fierce nebula]

unless you count R7E1 Pablo

[uncut gulch]

my friends dragged me into the first few missions and we got stuck on the first reactor one

[fierce nebula]

R1C1 strikes again

[tiny tundra]

Interesting to me that it's such a common roadblock

[uncut gulch]

we get to the end, where you escape but that last corner with the stair case gets us

[dry pumice]

Stealth is the easiest part of the game

Just be patient and you'll win

[tiny tundra]

That's fair

[dry pumice]

And suddenly people have to do nothing but shoot for 30 minutes

Also i mostly blame the hybrid strike-team

[tiny tundra]

Yeah; without even just a half decent setup I could see it thrashing you

[dry pumice]

They're pretty much the source of 90% of wipes, me thinks

[uncut gulch]

I think we ended up being able to do the 8 wave part because we brought 3 sentry guns and the goo one

and I found out that one charge rifle is kinda good

the HEL ones I think

[tiny tundra]

HEL Rifle 😌

[uncut gulch]

and the heavy SMG

that was my go to for that so far

[tiny tundra]

Just stick to it; each attempt you learn more and with a little more time you'll get to extraction

[uncut gulch]

yeah we've defiantly gotten further each time, but I want to play the game still and lately they haven't been wanting to because we've been stuck for at least 6 tries

[tiny tundra]

Knowing a quick path to run through once the reactor is done might help is that's what's tripping you guys up

Might be worth practicing the run back before starting the reactor

[uncut gulch]

I'd say so

we manage to get to the very last corner and a lot of dudes come around the corner and I think that we get overwhelmed there

[dry pumice]

Oh yeah, that part

[tiny tundra]

More strong automatic weapons might help you there

[dry pumice]

I swear the game does that intentionally

For some reasons it just dumps the entire wave of enemies right before you reach extraction point

Might be scripted, don't know

Just have biotracker man ping them and start shooting

[uncut gulch]

when we're leaving we don't run as much as we should I think, we usually end up walking in a like firing line to protect each other

I don't think we've brought a bio tracker on that one since attempt 2

[tiny tundra]

If you don't kill most of the stuff on the run back I don't usually see them on extraction but that's more circumstantial

[icy cave]

Bring the bio, only for the sentries to work better it's already a must. Start out with a burst and sniper sentry. Put down the 2nd burst from wave 3 or 4. (unless you can't manage the waves without). Then tell your m8's to get it together cause this is the easiest reactor in the game.

[dry geode]

bro....

alt r2 d1 guide plz

• is hel rifle good?

[latent obsidian]

You can look up runs on YouTube. Main tip is let one guy go into the fog to look for things and pull the rooms to shoot them outside of the fog

Hel rifle is great for chargers especially, good if you can line targets up

[dry geode]

ok

me confused b/w hel rifle and hel gun

not used them

does hel rifle one shot scout?

[latent obsidian]

Yes

Hel rifle one shots basic enemies, hel gun you need two shots

[hidden ridge]

It's not

What probably happens is that they have enemies queued up

When you finish reactor, the error at the end starts but it's kinda mild unless you get them to stack up

[hidden ridge]

There's a route you can do that goes through as little fog as possible but what ellda says works. Remember that you only "need" to open one of the two alarmed doors since only one of them has cell, list the zone so you know which one. As soon as you get the key get there and open that zone, since it's like ||2-3 scouts|| and ||spitters|| but you get a free cell, that zone has no fog. You dont need to go down that path any further. Remember, cell gets in gen, fog goes down. Resource zone gives you back 1 cell so it's free too.

[cold quarry]

yeah always get resource zone

[dry geode]

tnx boiis

last question does hel rifle one shots scout?

[cold quarry]

in the head or back

yeah

[dry geode]

head confirmed?

[cold quarry]

definitely

[dry geode]

tnx

[dry geode]

mastaba revolver on the back right?

[cold quarry]

yeah that'll hve to be back of head

[dry geode]

ou k

[hidden ridge]

Unless I misremember with revolver range is also a factor on whether or not it can kill occi scout

But I think it's pretty forgiving

[cold quarry]

revolver hits scout occi for like ~60 ish

so you have a decent bit of falloff before it stops

[solemn flint]

PDW is a machine gun that uses rifle ammo. But doesn't that make it an assault rifle? I always thought the only difference is ammo type

[dry pumice]

Hm. I'm not super versed on the gun lore, but I think the lenght of the barrel had something to do with that too.

[cold quarry]

there's a lot of designations and sometimes different countries designate differently

[dry pumice]

G36-C, for example, is classified as a "Carbine", even though it has all the hallmarks of an assault rifle, including ammo. Only difference is gun length - the stubby nature of it makes it easier to operate in tight environments (like vehicles), but sacrifices range.

[mossy aurora]

if u cut off a shotgun barrel with laser is it still a sawed off shotgun?

[solemn flint]

Obviously not, completely different gun

[dry pumice]

Yes.

[native sun]

Map for reference:

      608
      607   614   610
       |     |     |
615 - 606 -    609    - 611
       |     |     |
      605   613   612
       E

• Clear first area of 605 and two side rooms stealthily, just pull the last area before fog repelling across, if you set up quick you can do the alarm with the same fog repellers
• Put in cell from 606 immediately
• Clear 609 while saving the small door between the two areas of 609
• Pull the 610 and 612 blood doors at the same time, and then run back through the small door in 609, mine on each blood door and the small door
• Get the key from 610/612, you can grab the cells from either if they're easy, but don't have to immediately
  • For 610 I'd recommend just pulling the rooms in fog, and then have one person fog dive for whatever you need
  • For 612 I'd recommend having the whole team go together with fog repellers
• Once you have the key go back and clear 607 first (it is fully out of fog), put in the cell from 607
• Finish clearing 610/612, use one of the cells to open 614, put the other in gen cluster
• Clear 614, loot up for alarm to open 608, put in the cell from 614
• Clear 608, use key to open disinfect zone, put in cell from 608, beat level

The only other recommendation I'd give is saving the medi from 606 for the very end, you won't need it for the alarm to open 609, and you're likely gonna lose your health to chip damage during the stealth afterwards.

[lone mortar]

Bruh what

Youre making me question the bullet shells in 9mms

[fierce walrus]

wait pdw is a machine gun??

[lone mortar]

Ofc not

[fierce walrus]

yeah i thought so

[lone mortar]

Its a simple but same speed as a kris vector

And it uses 9mm ammunition judging on the empty cartridge alone

[noble mirage]

I want to get into gtfo but I don’t have people to play it with are there any open groups?

[icy cave]

This discord is full of open groups.

#how-to-matchmake

[noble mirage]

My bad thanks bro

[soft crater]

Barrel Length

And Carbines are shortened barrel variants of weapons iirc.

Iirc G36C is like a 9inch Barrel

For reference. Iirc the Thompson (Tommy gun)
At least the Variant most are familiar with. Has a 10.5 inch barrel

German MP40 has a 9.9in barrel length

[mint moon]

Beginner here, how do I time the lock thingy, I press on blue but it still wrong?

[craggy pier]

do it 3 times and wait slightly till the lock is gone

[lone mortar]

3 times

Or just lock melter OP

[mint moon]

Do I must redo 3 times?

So it ringing is part of unlocking?

[craggy pier]

when u fail it goes back to the previous layer

3x succesful hacks will do it

[craggy pier]

no that means you failed that layer

[tardy ingot]

ringing = you missed

[dry pumice]

If it goes BEEEEEEEEP then you fucked up

You missed

[mint moon]

What? But I hit on blue?

[dry pumice]

If you're playing with heavily delayed frames - you could be seeing delayed image and therefore unable to hit it properly.

[mint moon]

Ohh I see, mm thank you for answering

[lone mortar]

[stuck ingot]

quick question, what does artifact heat mean for me?

[arctic marten]

the higher the heat is, the more artifacts are worth

[stuck ingot]

oh sweet, so nothing i actually have to worry about

[arctic marten]

yeah, basically just means you'll get more boosters

[stuck ingot]

ok i was worried that it either had to do with enemy spawn or my own kind of spawn thanks

[dry geode]

does mine deployer not come in hand when 0%?

i cant switch to mine dep

[dry pumice]

Yes

[dull spade]

so where is the button to paste the join code?

[latent obsidian]

you don't have to paste it, a button will appear on the left of the rundown screen if it notices the code in your clipboard

[dull spade]

then why isn't it noticing it?

[latent obsidian]

Maybe the code you were given is outdated

[dull spade]

maybe

[latent obsidian]

ask the host to check again

[dull spade]

so

I can't initiate the cage drop

I hold it down and nothing happens it just resets to zero

[latent obsidian]

look in the bottom right and see if you are all on the same version of the game

[icy cave]

Make sure you both own the game.

or have it updated to last version

[latent obsidian]

beyond that try switching hosts or restarting the game cos I don't really know

[dull spade]

how would we be playing if we didn't own the game 😭

[icy cave]

Cracked can not play with legit copy even if on same version

[dull spade]

who would pirate a multiplayer game 💀

[latent obsidian]

People have come in here admitting to it lol

[icy cave]

you would be surprised

[dull spade]

tbh who would pirate a game in general

like how much of a loser do you have to be to pirate a non triple a game

[icy cave]

we've seen enough people asking why they can't join to later admit they cracked it

[dull spade]

💀

[icy cave]

A big one. but they exist

[dry pumice]

I tend to see pirated versions as unofficial demos, but that's just me.

[dull spade]

I mean I get where you're coming from but just Ick

[dry pumice]

I pirated dead space 1 once upon a time... Now I own the whole franchise including the predatory DLCs.

But these days I can't be bothered dodging viruses and other shit, to tired for it.

[next socket]

I pirate every game before I buy.. including this game

I've spent more money because of piracy

It lets me better choose what games to pick

If I didn't get the ability to try out this game first I wouldn't have bought it

[dry pumice]

Technically this function had been inherited by reviewers

[next socket]

Reviewers are dog shit and don't know what they're talking about

[dry pumice]

Just find a reliable one on YouTube + combine with average steam review scores or something

Layer in top of gameplay videos and you get pretty much an objective picture

[next socket]

Nah man, average gamer opinion is pretty low to me

Id rather just.. play a demo

But they don't exist anymore

[dry pumice]

You're telling me youve hated "overwhelmingly positive" games before?

[next socket]

So I press funny download button and try

[next socket]

Huh? Is that what I said bro what

[dry pumice]

No, I'm genuinely asking

[icy cave]

Yes

[dry pumice]

Because that is what I'm pointing it

If its overwhelmingly positive + your favorite reviewer doesn't say anything ass-blasting about + gameplay video looks very fun = there's 95% chance it's a good buy

The only reason I'm an XCOM fan was because I watched a mild video review on enemy unknown and got immediately hooked to aesthetics even though I never thought of myself as a strategy guy.

Turns out I like turn based games quite a lot...

[next socket]

Or you can just.. not do any of that and just try the game out for yourself and buy it if you like it

Or press delete if you don't

[next socket]

I don't think I've genuinely hated a video game before

'Cuz like.. you gotta consent to play a game

No one's forcing you to play

If I don't enjoy the game I just don't play it /shrug

[dull spade]

steam refund policy my beloved

[next socket]

Pressing delete key my beloved

[dull spade]

nobody has the money to just buy a game and delete it afterwards 😭

[next socket]

Having more than a 2 hour trial period in case of tecnical issues, no potential to have your refund denied for any reason

[next socket]

The game costs $0.00 if you 🏴‍☠️ it

[dull spade]

plus thats why you can own it for up to 2 weeks

[dull spade]

yeah but you'd have to be the biggest fucking loser to pirate games

[next socket]

I download a shit ton of pirated games, pop 'em into a folder and when I'm bored I pick one at random when I'm bored

And if I like it I go buy it

[dull spade]

especially indie games

[dull spade]

smh

[next socket]

If I don't, I hit delete and nothing happens

I don't buy games without being able to try them first

[dull spade]

why

you should only buy a game if you think you're gonna like it

💀

[dry pumice]

Hm... Not sure I agree with that... Must think about it.

Yeah, I think that mostly checks out.

Although it would be very kind of devs to make demo versions, but they just don't do that kind of thing anymore.

And then there's the preorder culture which is a whole other can of worms

[stuck ingot]

do i have to complete each one 4 different times or what is that (completed (1///_))

[arctic marten]

gonna steal a car and take it for a spin
ill go buy it if i like how it feels to drive

[dry pumice]

It's a completion counter.
[A B C D]
Where
A = (requirement to finish level)
B = objective
C = objective
D = = +

[stuck ingot]

i will agree with that pirating games and movies is not cool

also thank you artek

[next socket]

Why else do you buy a game???

LMAO

[next socket]

Car dealers literally let you demo the cars for free before you buy 'em 😩

[dry pumice]

Matter of consent I suppose

Some do, some don't

[tardy ingot]

to play with friends who like it
Cuz you got forced to buy it

[dry pumice]

Letting customers to rake a whiff is generally a very pro-consoomer thing

As opposed to "buy it before its finished, you'll figure it out if it's good later"

[next socket]

Disgusting, imagine having friends

My mum's basement walls are my friends 😠

[next socket]

It's also a picky thing

There's just so many games to play that I love and enjoy

If you're not gonna let me try your game out for free (or if it's not printable to try and buy), I'm just... Not gonna play your game

I have like, hundreds of games that I love and will play with no complaints

[dull spade]

then play those

[next socket]

Yeah, I do

[dull spade]

then why pirate games

[next socket]

Gtfo fun 👍

[dull spade]

gtfo boo 👎

[next socket]

To have games to potentially add to my list of games to play

The last few I've added are dishonored and Far Cry

[dull spade]

which far cry 🧐

[next socket]

6

[dull spade]

smh

[next socket]

I tried 5, didn't like the gunplay

I know that's seen as a pretty bad take for the common gamer

[dull spade]

no just like

how do you not like the gunplay in 5 but enjoy 6?

[next socket]

Wdym?

[dull spade]

they're all the same 😭

[next socket]

The gunplay is way different

[next socket]

They ain't

Ok- I say "way different" but that's an exaggeration, they're not like CoD vs. Gears of War different

But they're different

[dull spade]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-what-is-happening-dim-dim-what-confused-gif-26463317

[next socket]

And I don't like 5 but I like 6

[dull spade]

no gif perms

😔

[next socket]

Yeah probably a good thing

[dull spade]

no

[next socket]

Some mfer sharing horse cocks earlier

[dull spade]

:c

no funny-

💀

💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀

[next socket]

Literally just degen pr0n posting

[dull spade]

🗿

gay? I was gay once, they put me in a room, a gay room, a gay room full of femboys, and femboys make me gay

[arctic marten]

you have misunderstood the purpose of the analogy

[next socket]

Your analogy doesn't work then, 'cuz youre implying I'm stealing something of physical value

[arctic marten]

that is not how analogies work
I don't think you actually stole a car, nor do I think video games are physical
my goal was to illustrate how silly it sounds to seal something in order to see whether or not you like it

[next socket]

Lol ok I guess

I'm not stealing anything, but sure

3 scenarios:
I don't pirate the game, I don't play the game, I don't buy the game - no transfer of wealth has been lost
I pirate the game, I don't like it, so I delete it and don't pay for it - no transfer of wealth has been lost
I pirate the game, I like it, I buy the game - no transfer of wealth has been lost

[dry pumice]

Appealing to consequences, are we

[next socket]

Moral consequence, since there is no physical change as a result of my actions

Appeal to consequence isn't a valid argument when there are no real consequences

[lone mortar]

[dry pumice]

Technically you are stealing a product of labour without the consent of the creator, which is stealing still. It's not a car, but someone did spent sleepless night staring as some boring ass code and that is value too.

Thankfully most developers more or less made peace with pirating as its' utilities.
Now the denovo users... Not only they laboured kn the product - but then they laboured specifically on preventing the "stealing" of it, and then people do it anyway.

At that point it's just raw disrespect.

[lone mortar]

Whats happening

[dry pumice]

Philosophy.

[stuck ingot]

well spoken

[lone mortar]

Well spoke

[next socket]

Show me the labor I stole please

[stuck ingot]

the game itself

[lone mortar]

Bravo six

Goin dark

[past mesa]

you not stealing more like just not reward people who have worked and need to eat you are depriving them of income.

[next socket]

There is not a single game on my PC in which I have not paid for or that has been played

[next socket]

I have not deprived anyone of income, if I play the game, I pay for it

[past mesa]

then you good

[lone mortar]

Jish approves

[next socket]

The pirated copy is removed from my system after I have decided if I like the game or not

[stuck ingot]

yet you do something illegal to see if you like it then you come back and buy it. when there are plenty of legal ways to see if you like the game

[next socket]

illegal

Irrelevant

[past mesa]

true i miss understood

as long as people get paid for thier laybor i dont care

[lone mortar]

Imagine pirating then buy game

[next socket]

Legality does not follow morality and I don't follow the law for the purposes of it

It's also not an argument for whether something is and isn't ok

[next socket]

It's extremely convenient

That's why I do it

[winged turtle]

as a trial period, kinda based,

[next socket]

If they offer a demo, i download the demo

(instead)

[strange ocean]

Yea makes sense

[next socket]

If no demo, I make my own demo 🙂

[winged turtle]

but also, if a team did good work, but came up short, and this was standard practice, it means they go out of business

[strange ocean]

Reffund exists as well but that's one way to do it

[next socket]

..they go out of business because..
Checks notes
People didn't like their game so they didn't pay for it?

Works for me!

[dry pumice]

The steam refund practice is basically roundabout demo version, although I personally never did it.

[winged turtle]

i don't think promoting this system is ethical, but doing it in private is fine

[next socket]

I don't use it because you can only go 2 hours or 2 weeks since purchase which doesn't work for my workflow

[dry pumice]

What was it again? 30 minutes or 1 hour?

[lone mortar]

1 hr

[winged turtle]

thought it was 2

[lone mortar]

30mins would kill it

[next socket]

Not promoting it for sure, piracy requires a skill set to do it safely and ethically

[lone mortar]

For some games it 3

[tranquil arch]

2

[next socket]

It's 2 last time I checked

[strange ocean]

2hr

[next socket]

Or 2 weeks since purchase (which is the part I don't like)

[tranquil arch]

2 by steam refund policy

[strange ocean]

Yup

[next socket]

The 2 weeks is sometimes overlooked- but I don't want to deal with "sometimes"

[lone mortar]

With some fast paced shooters to me was 1hr last time i checked

[tranquil arch]

I agree, 2 weeks sucks

[next socket]

Jeez, really?

Maybe shorter games have that as a policy?

[dry pumice]

That would be fair

[tranquil arch]

Steam's policy is 2h by default

[lone mortar]

Idk i don’t really do those refund stuff

[next socket]

It would be dumb to have a 1 hour long .99c game and let you refund it 😛

[tranquil arch]

Shouldn't really be less under any circumstances

[tranquil arch]

Some guy does YouTube vids like that

"can I 100% x game and refund in 2 hours"

[next socket]

See, that's less ethical than me pirating games my way LMFAO

[tranquil arch]

Indeed

[next socket]

And it's on YouTube as entertainment looool

[lone mortar]

Bro get more views

Bu click bait

[dry pumice]

To be fair what kind of game is that that is completed in 2 hours.

[tranquil arch]

Though usually it's for better established games he does it

[next socket]

And he's profiting off of doing that

[lone mortar]

Then return game

[next socket]

He's probably not actually refunding tho

It's probably a prank

[tranquil arch]

Not really indie titles or deliberately short ones

I think he repurchases as good faith

[past mesa]

ideally people had the time to make proper products and didnt have to go crazy

[winged turtle]

which is more likely for small studios/projects, which is my concern. this helps settle my mind on it a lot more

[next socket]

Yeah, video game development are systemically just like that

They're getting harder and harder to make

[dry pumice]

Not really...

There's more tools each day, Engines get updated and improved.

The only real issue is coming up with a unique concept or mechanic that will catch people.

[next socket]

Have you programmed video games?

[past mesa]

but the amount of work they do/ the cycle has gotton worse

[dry pumice]

While AAA projects care about staffing extra 20.000 polygons into a blanket.

[past mesa]

like the industry is crazy compared to most other tech

[next socket]

I'm a programmer and I can definitively say that they're getting harder and harder to make because they're getting more complicated

[dry pumice]

They don't have to be, it's a conceptual issue

[next socket]

The startup cost of a game with no promise on return creates tech debt

[dry pumice]

Looking at vampire survivors

That game disgusts me

And yet the public loved it

[arctic marten]

I'm a programmer, and I disagree

[next socket]

And yet, here we are, with even companies with good track records like CDPR creating extremely unethical working conditions during the development of their newest game

[next socket]

The reality disagrees with you

[dry pumice]

It's literally dead lines

[next socket]

The largest companies that create the biggest games are working their employees harder and harder

[dry pumice]

Stop with dead lines just work until its actually done

[next socket]

Indie stuff is unaffected, mostly

[dry pumice]

Especially when working a project of this scope

There is one good argument for deadlines and that is that it actually forces people to work knowing that at some point they'll have to stop. They'll cut fat, the feature creep, focus on things that are actually important for the game to be a game.

What seems to be missing is the understanding that a deadline does not mean a deadline.

[minor fractal]

Indie development is also very slow most of the time.

Which isn't bad.

It's just a trade-off

[next socket]

Yeah, less employees with a central vision does that

Pays off a pot of the time tho

[dry pumice]

Companies really should stop releasing a game that's clearly still sipping with raw sauce.

[next socket]

A Lot*

[dry pumice]

Fucking cook it extra 4 months what is wrong with you.

[next socket]

Money

[dry pumice]

If this was cake you would lawsuited out of existence already.

[next socket]

[dry pumice]

Mostly because someone will get poisoning from that.

[minor fractal]

Tbf, the problem is also partly consumers. \

Shitty AAA games still sell.

[dry pumice]

Le preorder', hon hon hon

And yeah, I've seen people get rabid because game X did not release on Y date.

Like come on, show some patience.

The only exception might be if you're on a death door and it's your one chance.

And even then... We don't really build our societies around the dying.

[minor fractal]

A reminder that the average Steam Forums user might be the average gamer.

[lone mortar]

[dry pumice]

Key word might

Hope dies last

I spend lots of time on dota forums and it ain't lookin' good

Though part of that is the subculture of dotamen

[winged turtle]

what no sense of community does to a mother fuck er

[dry pumice]

God, steam on mobile became such a piece of shit

Damn thing freezes every 15 minutes

[next socket]

Average gamer mentality lol

Why are gamers so dumb

Yeah lemme preorder this game

"wtf game sucks??"

[dry pumice]

I mean it does not necesserily correlates in either way

It's purely a matter of trust.

Some people out there have too much trust for all the wrong companies.

Or they just... Don't care.

[next socket]

No one should ever trust any company

[dry pumice]

Which could be cringe or based depending on how you look at it.

[next socket]

Maybe that's a hot take

[dry pumice]

I have a guy in another server. He already preordered starfield.

[next socket]

😐

I don't get it

It's like- does it make you feel better that you paid now instead of later?

[dry pumice]

When I grilled him on it - his answer basically comes down to a warm smile: "Because I wanted to."

[next socket]

L + threw money into a hole and burned it

If that game never releases, he will literally have just done the equivilent of cutting his money with scissors

Or if the game sucks and he doesn't play it

Hey man, why'd you pour gasoline on your money and light it?
"Because I wanted to."

[dry pumice]

He probably won't even fight on it, he just made peace with it.

I'm telling - life is easier when you don't care, this guy is proof.

[next socket]

I would argue life is easier when you don't have to care

If you're like me who has to be careful with money

You can't choose to not care about stuff like that

If you have the option to not care then life is probably already easier for you

[icy cave]

It is

[golden solstice]

does the ingame matchmaking work at all?

[icy cave]

nope

[golden solstice]

i try it occasionally and set my expeditions to any unlocked expedition, english primary language no secondary and i use voice for VC and ill sit there for 15 minutes or more and get nothing

[icy cave]

#how-to-matchmake

[golden solstice]

i know how to use lfg

[icy cave]

Ingame MM is ded

It's only used for social experiments

[golden solstice]

like minging randoms with mods...

[icy cave]

Or being moved to china

[golden solstice]

i dont get that one

[icy cave]

Lots of chinese players in MM

[golden solstice]

really?

i guess that kinda makes sense

[ocean spindle]

i never knew if there was a korean or just generally asian discord server of gtfo
i assumed yes but i never saw it

so i guess it makes
sense they would use mm more

[lone mortar]

Dude

Im the owner of the Vietnam GTFO server

So its simple

Git gud and force friends to join in and boom 500 members

[ocean spindle]

hum
i mean it's amazin u did that thats super funks
but i guess i was thinkin more korean servers since like it's the people i see on youtube n stuff the most
but it's probs just me like not knowledgeable enough

[lone mortar]

Korean servers are very unhinged

[golden solstice]

best korea or south korea?

[lone mortar]

Like the second they cant let them fall in ur hands (capable of carry or do missions)

They automatically go poof

Same thing happens in various other games

[ocean spindle]

hum

[next socket]

Impossible. Gtfo sucks

[ocean spindle]

disagree gtfo is ok

:]

[next socket]

Only ok, C+

[ocean spindle]

A-

[is that like a 8/10 idk the american system for grades]

[dry pumice]

C+ feels accurate to me

[ocean spindle]

S++? :3

[compact junco]

would be nice for the game to have more detailed guns. the chamber doesnt open to eject the shotgun shell on the buckland s870 😂

[ocean spindle]

what if it happens on the other side or so fast u can't see it

[dry pumice]

Today on things that only mods can fix...

[ocean spindle]

tbh i think the guns look beautiful that's not really a problem

[ocean spindle]

today on ok

[dry pumice]

Their icons do

The FPS PoV not so much

[ocean spindle]

idk i find em cool as fuck

u can even rotate to see the other side of the guns

i do that a lot just to appreciate their models

[cold quarry]

a lot of gun logic doesn'st make sense

also if you watch a buddy shoot, the casings eject out the left into their face

like it's left handed

[dry pumice]

Counter strike moment again?

[cold quarry]

CS:S characters after pulling the forward assist of an M4A1 like a full foot out to chamber it

[dry pumice]

Things game could get away with 20 years ago

These days you'd be burned on a stake for that

[compact junco]

the guns look fine and fit with the vibe of the game but the chamber doesnt open to eject the shell, would be some nice detail

[ocean spindle]

i mean i guess
i just never really noticed so idk but i guess ur right
i never thought about jt

[compact junco]

yeah alot eject left, which is strange but i feel like they do it so we can see the shells to make it "cooler". Which I'd be fine with if we'd see the chamber move too

[cold quarry]

we don't see them in first person though

it's only third which is odd

i think in first person they eject properly don't they?

[ocean spindle]

the casings? think so yeah

[compact junco]

some do like the SMG, others like the shotgun eject left

[ocean spindle]

i remember analyzin the bullets for theories other people were doin n postin em ok gtfo spoiler chat

was nice

i like the guns

[wet musk]

what rundown should I play as a beginner

[icy cave]

R1

[ocean spindle]

rundown 1!

and make sure to do the tutorial too

Training

[wet musk]

okay thanks

[compact junco]

i think the guns cool too, just want that extra detail

[winged turtle]

R7 and R3 are good ones too. you can also just do a bunch of A missions too

[dry pumice]

but the chronology

[fierce walrus]

Well… i am yet to beat r2

fuck that rundown

fuck chronology

[icy cave]

Artek is right. at least R1 should be done before moving to others. Otherwise the enjoyment of R1 will be seriously diminished

[winged turtle]

oh ya you might miss the plot if you go out of order

[icy cave]

Actually up to R2E1 should be very doable. If then as a new player one gets stuck on R2E1, moving on to R3 is not an issue

[ocean spindle]

i'd say d1 mostly cause it's not super hard but it's long as fuck and tb yes it is kinda hard but i digress

opinions

[icy cave]

you are entitled to one yes

[ocean spindle]

same to everyone everyone has opinions

everyone has onions

[icy cave]

Actually no we don't have onions at home right now

[ocean spindle]

skill issue get some

they r great food

very healthy

[icy cave]

Did you finish R7C1?

[ocean spindle]

yes

[icy cave]

I used them on the steak from this evening

I just need to buy new ones

[ocean spindle]

there u go u had onions
one onion a day keeps the
...
not onions away

idk

[fierce walrus]

keeps the butcher away

[hidden ridge]

The onion song french army etc etc

I know it because of GuP

[icy cave]

I'll force you to watch me put pineapple on a pizza

[winged turtle]

playing multiple A missions across rundowns means you get to

1. keep playing,
2. new missions,
3. while getting practice,
4. before hitting a wall

[ocean spindle]

i always hit walls it's kinda amazin

[cold quarry]

nonsense. play r2e1 600 times before r3a1

[hidden ridge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_u8LpMRhgM

[craggy pier]

ill replace you with a bot when we duo r6

[icy cave]

ooof

[lone mortar]

Omg its sleepo

[icy cave]

Azert brings the fire

[craggy pier]

dont bring the pineapple n we chill

[icy cave]

This is only true when R1 is finished

[winged turtle]

This is only true

ftfy

[icy cave]

R6D3PE will be pineapple free

I have spoken

[hidden ridge]

Ah you're talking about mission order for newbies I see

[icy cave]

This is

[craggy pier]

now thats a man i can respect

[winged turtle]

the third and final topic of the DJ trifecta

[hidden ridge]

To be fair when R6 gets released it'd probably be fine for newbies to just start there

[icy cave]

That's a very condescending term. we call them "skill challenged players"

[icy cave]

What are the other 2?

[hidden ridge]

I'll say what I think: R6 was very evidently designed with new people in mind so they might aswell start there, D3PE and DX non withstanding it's a pretty easy rundown

[winged turtle]

checkpoints and travel obvi

[hidden ridge]

Wheat Throne, DJDNA's History Expert

[ocean spindle]

i agrees from what i've seen
so yeah i'd say like if r6 is not harder [which i hope]
we should recommend r1 and r6 to start

[icy cave]

Yep but even then the enjoyment of R1 will be diminished. Because it's not about the difficulty but the point that R1 is the most barebone, basic and boring rundown

so no

[hidden ridge]

"which you hope" The only say I can see them remaking R6 harder without having to redo maps from scratch would be to remove checkpoints

[ocean spindle]

qwq

well good enough

[icy cave]

You are deemed worthy of writing my biografy

[hidden ridge]

Fair

[icy cave]

"where are the flyers?" "where is the voice acting gone?" "why aren't we teleporting anymore" "why is it only storage biome?" etc etc etc

[winged turtle]

you Do Not Want that lol

i will write it in shattered french mon frair

[icy cave]

Have I not treated you right?😭

[ocean spindle]

i think newbies won't really see r6 and r1 as different as we will
they will just see r6 as better yeah but both fun and enjoyable with their own surprises
cause i think r6 ||doesn't have shadows chargers or just general special enemies till c tiers idk for a fact at all tho||

dont answer that

it's spoils for myself

[icy cave]

Ok nvm I revoke your right on my biografy

[hidden ridge]

Storage best biome

[winged turtle]

good call lol

[icy cave]

they will tho. read my comments above. it is very very clear

[hidden ridge]

Wait you never played R6?

[icy cave]

I stopped at 2nd season from Y8

[hidden ridge]

😄

[ocean spindle]

no only saw like story missions and b3

i mean b2

i hate phones

but that's it

ah c3 i guess but not a lot

[soft kiln]

I stopped before thunderbird

[ocean spindle]

idk i feel like just by sayin "u can start at r1 since it was the first rundown but r6 it's not that hard" kinda just will clear the doubts
but we will see i guess

[icy cave]

The reload rework was good. Brava was good. Fenrir is meh

[hidden ridge]

I stopped watching Lost when ||Locke met the weird guy in the base of the statue||

[icy cave]

M8 I watched ALL of it

[hidden ridge]

Did I lose much? Most of my friends said it went to shit

[icy cave]

They explain jack shit

[hidden ridge]

Then it's good where it is 😦

[icy cave]

First season was fire

[hidden ridge]

Oh yeah for sure

[icy cave]

3rd iirc as well

[hidden ridge]

I was so fucking hooked

[icy cave]

but after that ....

[hidden ridge]

I still remember people speculating where the noise from the monster came from (some said NYC taxi device for calculating the fares makes a similiar noise) and whatnot

[icy cave]

Yeah none of it.

[craggy pier]

how does one go about r5b3 secondary

[icy cave]

Wdym? you open and pew pew pew pew

[craggy pier]

🤔

[winged turtle]

which one is that one? they all blend together

[craggy pier]

hisec error into secondary biomass cleansing

[devout bridge]

there's plenty of tool so one way to do it is to put a shitload of mines on west and east blood doors to kill giantschargers and hybrids as fast as possible

you should also bring a few weapons that are good against bosses as you want to deal with tanks before another one spawns, choke mod is a good idea as it is also useful in main

[craggy pier]

the tank wont be a fun one with 3 bots

[devout bridge]

oh you are playing with 3 bots

i've got bad news for you then, there's 3 tanks total

you basically have to kill everything execpt tanks, kick bots out of lobby to scan and deal with the 3 tanks at the same time by abusing their ai if you want to do it

if you keep the bots with you during the scan, chances are that they'll just go down, preventing you from finishing the scan, they're just terrible against tanks

[craggy pier]

tanks spwan it after each tank dies or?

[devout bridge]

I think tank spawn is based on time

[cold quarry]

yeah

[craggy pier]

i assume other enemies spawn too

[cold quarry]

no once you clear out the containment it's just the tanks

until scan is done

[devout bridge]

you basically have to do the solo strat in that case, bots are just deadweight here

or play with a least 1 other player I guess

[craggy pier]

i think the play is leave tanks alone till the end

[rich sand]

Hello! Does anyone know a good special weapon that is a good with the sawed off? I really like the shotgun but I have no clue what special to choose to help balance it haha....

[dry pumice]

Should be easy, no?

Sawed off is an insane close combat weapon

basically melee with ammo

your weakness will become mid-to-long range

(mostly worried about mid range - shooters / sporeheads)

[jagged shore]

sniper
get both extremes

[tardy ingot]

Precision rifle

[dry pumice]

Revolver, High Caliber Pistol, Heavy Assault Rifle, HEL Rifle and HEL Gun seems to be ideas

oh right, almost forgot PR exists too

why not

i think Sawed Off + High Caliber is a very funny combination

both are basically handcannons

two very large big irons

i'm actually running it right now

[rich sand]

😄

I will give it a try haha

[dry pumice]

their ironsights even have the same glowing colour

Hint-hint from devs?... Probably not, but i like it anyway.

[errant mountain]

Hello! Playing the game a year ago, I seem to have seen dialogue as the mission progresses. Today, my friends and I decided to go through the game and started from the first rundown, but we did not find any dialogues during the mission. Can they be turned on or something like that? Btw sorry for my english

[dry pumice]

The "mandatory monologue" as i call it is something devs invented from Rundown 6 and onwards. Rundown 6 is currently removed (currently being remade), and only Rundown 7 is present where you can find that in all of the "Golden" missions.
Rundown 1-through-5 don't have that, although you can find random text AND audio logs hidden around the game on the terminals

Considering very often you'll have to read them while being harassed by an infinite horde - you might consider just reading / listening to them on the wiki pages

[ionic galleon]

Best main weapon?

[turbid horizon]

egg

Anything you like, Hel Revo and Carbine are pretty good rn tho

[ionic galleon]

bet

also

revolver > hical for special?

[cold quarry]

they're useful in different situations

[ionic galleon]

hical staggers more right

[cold quarry]

and hits harder

[ionic galleon]

i see thanks

[frank rapids]

Anyone has access to the GTFO reddit?.

[upper ginkgo]

on blackout until further notice 💀

i'm so glad the r/gtfo mods have decided to stand against reddit

[dry pumice]

HEL Revolver is considered the best. Its the perfect all-rounder.

• 2-taps biters if one of the shots is headshots.
• Penetrates
• nice ammo supply
• high stagger - you can stunlock enemies with it
• you can cancel the reload animation to get a major boost to reload speed and pretty much counter the one downside this weapon is supposed to have

Otherwise, if you don't want to think about it too much - just bring Carbine. It received some underved buffs because no-one fucking uses it. Just keep BRRRTing until it is done.

[ionic galleon]

thats gas thanks

[dry pumice]

Revolver if you can reliably land headshots.
High cal to just blast enemies away.

[ionic galleon]

How would i reload cancel

[dry pumice]

You switch back-and-fourth between weapons when you see the magazine counter go up

The counter goes to 8, but animation is not actually finished yet

So you cancel it by just... Switching weapon.

And somefucking how it basically cuts off like 30% of the reload time

Its quite insane

(fix when?)

[ionic galleon]

oh word

thank you sir

[ocean spindle]

do u really wanted it fixed tho

ah i didn't tag apparently thank u discord

[dry pumice]

Yes, i do.

[ocean spindle]

•_•

um

well ur opinion fairs

[next socket]

Carbine is good?

Haven't used it in a while

[ocean spindle]

yes

very funks

[stuck python]

Hey guys I'm fairly new to the game, I was wondering how game progression is saved? If I play missions with my friends and I am host, will mission completions only be saved within my account as host or saved across everybody else?

[strange ocean]

The completed expedition will be saved for every player that has done it in the current lobby

arghtfdsk shortly yea it saves for everyone in the lobby

[stuck python]

Ah ok thank you for the info

[dry pumice]

Very much so, yes. You can just keep firing it forever, damage is decent, reload speed is high, can do some hurts at medium range...

You can hipfire at close range, ADS at mid range...

[cold quarry]

it would honestsly help balance the HEL revolver if it was fixed

[hushed swift]

how do I check my game's version in-game?

[vivid nova]

fellas, i suck at this game, what are some good guns that are noob friendly

[cold quarry]

carbine

[sick sphinx]

I have 6700xt and i7 9700F what would be best settings to run at steady 144+ fps?

[cold quarry]

impossible

[next socket]

No

Some levels you will just simply drop below 144

But for the most time you will be, yes

R7D1 fps 😔

[languid glacier]

anybody know how long the R5D2 mission is?

[upper ginkgo]

45 - 60 minutes

[foggy goblet]

Is there any real use cases for the burst canon? Cuz no matter how much I prepare for the recoil, my barrel is sent flying... Or is it just a trap gun that is there to give you the middle finger?

[past mesa]

It is a boss answer

[foggy goblet]

Thanks, I'll keep it in mind

Oh, and does ADS choke the spread of shotguns? The last time I used the Hel Shotgun as main, the damage output was rather underwhelming

[ocean spindle]

burst cannon it's a very flexible weapon, it deals a lot of dmg and it's a five burst so two shots kill a sleeper, meanin u can kill two if u r lucky with ur sprays or leave one at nothin health if u hit one bullet on it

also i don't think so, think ads it's just like, ads, doesn't like do anythin

[past mesa]

It doesn’t

[ocean spindle]

and hel shottie isn't as much for shooting it at one enemy

it's more for sprayin it into a whole wave

[past mesa]

Hel shotty is very very good but kinda situation dependent

Not a very spamy weapon

[foggy goblet]

Yeah I'm just preparing for R1C1 revenge

[ocean spindle]

oh no yeah for c1 it would b horrendous KDMSKDM

[foggy goblet]

So im looking into options to deal with waves

[ocean spindle]

no way to get enemies like stacked and it has no range so u can't do anythin

[foggy goblet]

I'm running burst rifles with a sniper for now and it seems to work

And I learnt that without doors, mines are practically useless, the hard way

[ocean spindle]

yeah they r, situational ksks
also that gun combo is a pretty funk combo, i would take it if i could
aim
at all :3

but i'm skill issue so sad kdmskdm

[foggy goblet]

The ads is quite hard to aim rbh but if the biotracker scans everything, it was much easier

Alright, I think that's the last of my questions for now, thanks for your time!

[ocean spindle]

good luck on ur runs!

[foggy goblet]

Thanks, I'll need it

[vivid nova]

how 2 reload cancel

[ocean spindle]

pay attention to the corner of ur screen when reloading
when u see the bullets of ur gun refill, change to another gun, and then come back to the one u were reloadin

or if u wanna do it faster, press c to draw ur melee, then go back to the gun u reloaded

it can take a bit of practice since every gun can vary a bit in times when it reloads but

u will get the hang of it

[vivid nova]

thanks

[ocean spindle]

it's oki, good luck !

[vague bridge]

whats a reload cancel

[solemn nacelle]

a reload cancel

[vague bridge]

oh yeah thanks for the help

[solemn nacelle]

cutting the reload animation short by doing certain actions making you be able to reload faster

[vague bridge]

sounds kinda stupid to be honest

[solemn nacelle]

some games load your weapons before the animation ends, its upto the community to figure out how to shorten it

its just min maxxing the game if you want to get used to it, not really hard learning and making a few actions muscle memory

making you better at the game

faster reloads while in gunfights help tremendously

[vague bridge]

I've found cooler ways to get better at the game than saving 0.015 seconds

[solemn nacelle]

you cant cut reloads any other way

if you dont want to do it thats fine, not stopping you

but time is a valuable resource

and people will cut corners

[vague bridge]

i could only see it maybe coming into practicality on surge alarms

or speedrunners and solo'ers

[solemn nacelle]

yeah thats what it would be used for

yup

[vague bridge]

but those are deviants and we dont count those

[solemn nacelle]

a few easy extra inputs never hurt nobody

[jagged shore]

Gives me something to do during long reload anims and also gives me less time to do stuff during reload anims

[cold quarry]

add reload QTE's

fuck it up, drop all the hel revolver bullets on the ground

[tardy ingot]

you know the good reload cancels safe over a second each time?

[lone mortar]

@past mesa how to basiclly skip a few stuff without cell skipping jish?

only thing we skip was the 2 moms

[past mesa]

?

idk what you mean

[lone mortar]

trying to do it (no cell skip tho)

any advices?

[past mesa]

hmmm

[lone mortar]

infection decreasing hp is really brain rotting

[past mesa]

there is no point

to cell skip without cell skipping

skipping moms then shooting tank at 15 hp

is just fucked tho

[lone mortar]

we all died at the divide room after

class 4

going up through fogs trying to not be sandviched is so hard

[errant mountain]

Oh I see, thanks

[twilit mauve]

hey guys i wanted to know what are the top tier options for main weapons?

[mossy aurora]

hel revo or carbine

[hidden ridge]

you save way more than that with some guns

Only thing I have against reload cancel is that I'm sure some people just use a macro or some shit like that for it and I'm heavily against macros in most games

That and some people try to nail that shit down instead of just aiming better tbh

[zinc pulsar]

Which would you say is better between the Carbine and Burst rifle?

[hidden ridge]

Carbine

[neon gust]

carpoopi

[lone mortar]

I want my gameplay to have visions so id say pdw

[craggy pier]

burst rifle>>>

[tardy ingot]

Oh wait you serious o.O?

[craggy pier]

idk but momma said be confident

[native sun]

I don't think anyone uses a macro for reload cancelling, the inputs vary based on if you're planning on shooting the same gun again or if you're swapping to your other gun after the reload completes

[civic wave]

Some people use mods to help them reload cancel regardless

[wooden osprey]

if you need mods to reload cancel there is alot of things going wrong

[topaz anvil]

Simply a skill issue

[flat furnace]

yo folks, what's R5C1 got?

[strange ocean]

Nothing much it's really welcoming :)

[icy cave]

Lots

[wooden osprey]

funny respawns go brrrrrr

[native sun]

sustain scans with lil guys, respawn rooms with big guys, some uplinks with lil guys and chargers, secondary has an uplink + shadows + mum in zone

[winged turtle]

sleeping mom with a small error going is pretty based

[sturdy glen]

Wait ppl use macros for reload cancel?

Bruh no way

[winged turtle]

that sounds like more work, not less lol

[sturdy glen]

Yh

[dry pumice]

I mean

You just need to setup it once