gtfo-related-questions

[ocean spindle]

suppresors r not really in line with the game

yeah i think they would b busted

u put a single use of a suppresor on a big gun and u kill a scout in a very big room and even if it breaks right after it would still made the room easier

[fallow sonnet]

Yea

Very true

[lunar rain]

Also they don’t make your gun just make no sound, they are still loud, just less loud slightly

[ocean spindle]

i mean irl yes in games

[lunar rain]

But it would be a cool addition

[ocean spindle]

they do 0 db

[lunar rain]

Ya games are not the best at showing them for what they are

[jagged shore]

I mean tbf in this game lock melters make a big BWAZHOOOOM noise but are functionally silent

Surely something else could make a bit of noise but he largely functionally silent

[winged turtle]

and c-grenades fill that role

[jagged shore]

I still think silencers are a bad idea for this game except in very specific situations, but yknow

[ocean spindle]

yeah this game aint a super, realistic game as idk, tarkov i guess idk ive heard is pretty realistic

[ocean spindle]

yeah they r just harder to use, which is good that situation should b hard
kinda skdmk

idk i feel conflicted with the throw of cfoam cause is funk but idk how else could it b

[jagged shore]

I wish the grenade itself would make contact with them and explode on said contact

[winged turtle]

ya it would be the right balance of difficult and rewarding, if GTFO was less buggy/more consistent 😅

[winged turtle]

they do can have at least once before! lol

[ocean spindle]

its not that foam grenades dont hit... or at least usually
its that they miss cause funky throw trajectory

[fierce walrus]

and go through enemies

[jagged shore]

Honestly thinking of suppressors/silencers again
I kinda feel like rn the only gun I'd be okay with having it would be pr
Cause then it's quite a bit better in the niche if a scout dispatching gun

[winged turtle]

maybe give it more range and reduce its aggro range by 10 meters? hmm that sounds busted, but it would be fun at least

[dry pumice]

Yes yes yes

[cold quarry]

that would be an interesting PR niche

[past mesa]

pr already has niche

[dry pumice]

it needs more

[cold quarry]

only level i've ever thought "man, the PR would be useful here" is r4e1

[dry pumice]

Or give me my 12 bullet mag back

[past mesa]

it has a good match up into shaodw scouts

and that is good enough tbh

[dry pumice]

A gun that is only useful for like 5 levels across the game is not exactly a good gun. Not by my standards anyway...

[past mesa]

yeah but it just wont ever beat out the rev or the sniper

[dry pumice]

And hilariously one of those levels won't allow you to use it anyway

[ocean spindle]

i dont think pr and sniper are super, hyper comparable

[soft crater]

helppSupremacy

[winged turtle]

pr is, in summary, a long range pistol. it is somewhere in functionality between sniper and pistol. i think its a fair comparison to say it won't/shouldn't out-snipe the sniper

[dry pumice]

Gotta speed up reload some more

Or give +2 bullets

[winged turtle]

we have almost 30 guns in the game, way more than intended. some just aren't going to be good. some are going to be niche.

its just how it is

was the nerf unnecessary? yuh.
was the second unnecessary? also yuh.
does it still have a role to do?
also also yuh.

[dry pumice]

I just hate bad balance, simple as

You can have your S tier golden boys, fine, but I will not accept a D tier

Either everyone is B+ or fuck off

[winged turtle]

thats rough buddy

i hope you find a healthier outlet than GTFO some day

[dry pumice]

I do

They all have the same issue

Titanfall's CAR haunts me to this day

That gun must not be allowed to live

[winged turtle]

good luck out there

[cold quarry]

yeah IMO there's a difference between "this is the worst gun, and it's genuinely a bad idea to bring it most levels" and "This is the worst gun, but it's still not that bad"

the second one is indicative of actually good balancing

[topaz anvil]

GTFO is the best outlet

[cold quarry]

PR usually falls under number 1

[topaz anvil]

It encourages socialising

[winged turtle]

vampire hissing

[wintry kayak]

ok pr is the only weapon that would be in the C tier for me

D tier would be empty because nothing is bad in gtfo

actually maybe bat would be in my personal c tier

[ocean spindle]

qwq

[wintry kayak]

but that’s very subjective and pr is more towards an objective rating

wait do we have a template

for tier list

[past mesa]

we did

somewhere

[cold quarry]

depends on your definition of 'bad'

[wintry kayak]

Look in #gtfo-media . personal opinions though

[cold quarry]

i think you're def sleeping on the DMR

[winged turtle]

and Veruta lol

[sturdy glen]

combat shotty in B

[ornate pendant]

Hello, sorry if this is listed somewhere but I've looked around and can't find an answer. Are the limited time cosmetics going to return at some point? I didn't have a group of friends to regularly play this game with until recently and I feel kind of bummed I can't get the sick cosmetics

[cold quarry]

nobody knows for sure

[ornate pendant]

darn alright, thanks for the response

hopefully they'll come back at some point

[winged turtle]

the ones that are timed loot releases you can get by just re-clearing an A level.
but ya, the ones that are gone are probably gone

[soft crater]

As far as I know. They aren't returning when I asked Calle about it

But devs could change their minds about anything

[cold quarry]

would love to see the camo ballistic vest come back, shame they didn't pair it with the MDR cargo pants though

[soft crater]

Commando set yeah

[ornate pendant]

Makes sense

[dry pumice]

mah favorite set, the only one i use

[cold quarry]

it's far nicer than just about anything else I don't blame you

I started playing this game a month after it was over

[soft crater]

I just love how the color palette that released with it

Hardly shows the camouflage pattern

[ocean spindle]

i wonder how it looks with the santonian one

[soft crater]

Haven't gotten it yet

So who knows

[manic pecan]

Does R1A1 have other objectives?

[tranquil arch]

Optional objectives don't exist until R4

[manic pecan]

Oh...

[tranquil arch]

Since they didn't exist in the original versions of the first 3 rundowns

[manic pecan]

i just spent 30 minutes searching the level for the optional

[winged turtle]

ooph

ya, you can find out before you drop in, looking at the numbers next to the level

[winged turtle]

Completions of main and optional objectives in successful runs.
( 1, 1, 1, 1 )
(Main, Secondary, Overload, all three(PE))

• dashes mean N/A

(0, -, -, -)

[fierce nebula]

thats a bullet, not a dash

[spring plank]

how does one take out the big guy without triggering the others

[fierce nebula]

full squad in one swoop can do it

takes a while to set up but it keeps the room asleep

as long as not everyone is knife, knife is weak to giants

[spring plank]

could 3 sledges do it?

[fierce nebula]

yes

I think so

[spring plank]

cool thank you

[cold quarry]

gotta get your whole team on it, or like 3 of you with sledgehammers. Make sure you're hitting him in the back

they got weak spines

[spring plank]

that's going in the quote book

[twilit mauve]

How long does 1 level usually last? I haven't played much but I got all the basic and maybe some advance info down and would love to try a run

[sage belfry]

Average on 45 minutes on A and B tier (maybe some C tier too), and hour and half for D and E Tier.

[twilit mauve]

Oh alright thats good to know

Oh yeah I was looking through the stagger mechanic

How does that work?

[mild oxide]

limb break staggers target

each limb has damage threshold before it pops

[tardy ingot]

rly depends on the parties experience/skill (and want to go quicker) aswell as losely tier generally

A-B tier missions (without optionals) take between 10-30 min usually for vets, but beginners do take 30-90 min realistically (longer if they play slow slow)

[tardy ingot]

as explained

Breaking any limb/body part (head/legs/arms etc) gives an enemy a hard stagger that lasts decently long. The body parts all have the same hp for an enemy (say giants have 20 body part hp for each of them)

Theres also soft stagger where each enemy has a hidden stagger hp bar. If that one gets depleted (can be done multiple times on a lot of enemys) then the enemy soft staggers for a moment. Theres guns that do this better than others due to having stagger multiplicators

[mild oxide]

machine pistol go BRRRRRT

support weapons

like LMGs too

[twilit mauve]

Hmm I understand it now

Thanks for the help guys

Man finally being able to merge my horror game and mil-sim shooter into one game

[upper ginkgo]

idk about gtfo being a mil-sim

[last storm]

Beginner question.
Does the game not have checkpoints? I am currently trying to complete the first level and there doesn't seem to be any checkpoints when opening the blue doors.

[neon gust]

r1-r5 no checkpoints

[jagged shore]

blue doors aren't inherently checkpoints either

but yeah only checkpoints in r7 rn, r6 when it comes (back) out

[twilit mauve]

Yea true but I didnt want to say tactical shooter, I mean it is but the meaning often get lost

[tardy ingot]

just remember, checkpoints are the cause for most gamebreaking bugs :)

[zinc pulsar]

Hello, new to the game.

Is there a way to know from what door enemies will come from on alarm sections?

I have lost some rundowns for placing tools on doors that are not attacked

[fierce walrus]

they always spawn in rooms that are 2 rooms away

and when they are 1 room away from you they will take the shortest path

unless a door is opened then they go though the open one

[zinc pulsar]

I see, thanks 🙂

[crimson peak]

What do I do if no one is playing the level im playing? Do i like just go in with bots?

[latent obsidian]

If its taking too long to wait you can do, yeah. People might join while you are doing the mission with bots

for early levels it can be fine

[crimson peak]

i see, so do the bots like automatically do stuff or must I tell them what to do?

[latent obsidian]

The bots will attack enemies that are awake or waking up, but you will need to tell them to use their tools using the comms menu (hold Q). Also note that bots cannot alert enemies during stealth, they might shoot something that is waking up but their guns are silent as far as enemies are concerned.

But they won't sync up with you to melee enemies in stealth

[crimson peak]

thank you, I think ill just try R1A1 by myself

[latent obsidian]

Best of luck 🙂

[dry pumice]

They only automatically shot and otherwise engage awake enemies (except a certain kind).
They will not open lockers and doors, but they will break / hack / locks whenever they feel like it.
They do not use tools without a direct order with the sole exception being Biotracker.
They will loot anything you left behind. If you find an ammopack and just walk away - one of the bots will grab it.
They will scan to the best of their ability, but they will not stray too far away from you.

[crimson peak]

can i ping for zones?

[soft crater]

[crimson peak]

or more sepcifically an area?

[soft crater]

No

You can ping items in turn can be in those areas

But also doors will typically show what area they are leading to

Say you're in 100A and the door says 100B on it meaning the it leads to 100B

Also potentially any other Zones like 101-102 that direction may lead you

[dry pumice]

Technically you can ping doors leading to zones, but I'm yet to figure out how to understand what door leads where without actually finding it.

You could QUERY all the doors in the zone and try to figure it out from there, but like... It's gonna take like 5 whole minutes of just typing shit.

[soft crater]

Security doors

Typically blue

Pinging the door itself is majority only a thing when you're doing a level for the first time

Even then most players still don't make use of that command with said situation

[latent obsidian]

Yeah you can query doors if you want but theres not really much need unless you can't clear the area you are in

Normally you just clear the zone you are in, look at all the security doors and where they lead, see which one you need to go through or what you need to go through it

[heady moat]

well, as a rule of thumb, zone areas tend to be lettered in a depth-first traversal order

[crimson peak]

I see

i just finished it

and i spent too long looking for the thingi

had no idea what it looked like

so it took a good min

[hidden ridge]

I remember it having to do with the order they're generated in (left side first) and sectors

But I never looked into that too much since it's easier to just recall the numbers

[heady moat]

and ofc there are some exceptions to the 'depth-first' area-lettering heuristic, such as in the final zone of R1A1, which effectively uses a breadth-first lettering order

(having BCD all connected to A with E connected to either B or C I forgot which)

[crimson peak]

what does artifact heat mean?

[dry pumice]

Loot quality

[latent obsidian]

the higher the artifact heat the more artifacts you gain from picking up boosters

[dry pumice]

Found any candies down there?

[latent obsidian]

uh, boosters from picking up artifacts, I mean

[heady moat]

Whenver you grab an artifact, you gain 0.15 * heat progress to unlocking a booster of that type.

[crimson peak]

i see

[heady moat]

Heat decreases after you complete/fail/leave an expedition, based on the number of artefacts you collected (this decrease ofc happens after you've gained the artefact progress from the artefacts you collected)

[crimson peak]

so the more u play a level the lesser progression u get

[latent obsidian]

.t boosters

[uneven gulch]

Boosters are chemical cocktails injected into your brain, that you might earn from The Warden by collecting artifacts of different rarities. They are temporary boosters that are meant to increase your chance of completing expeditions in The Complex. Some boosters require nothing to be activated, while others might have conditions that the prisoners must meet in order to reap its benefits, and other boosters might give you disadvantages in certain aspects. The worth of a artifact is determined by the so-called "artifact heat", which is different for each level and each person. The more artifacts you collect in an expedition, the more the heat will decrease, which means that replaying the same level will make the artifacts of that expedition less valuable for a while. Heat will automatically increase by playing another expedition.

[heady moat]

Heat for a level increases (at a slower rate) whenever you collect artefacts in a different level in that rundown

[crimson peak]

ight ngl

im so confused

i just pick up shiny orange thingi

[latent obsidian]

pick up gummy get perks

[crimson peak]

fr

[heady moat]

basically you can't just grind a single level to speedrun getting perks

[crimson peak]

i see

but boosters also have a use limit right

[heady moat]

yes

muted ones generally only have one use, bold/aggressive can have multiple

and there's a limit to the number of boosters of each type you can have in your inventory

[crimson peak]

I see im guessing the boosters are more for the latter stages where it is actually hard

[heady moat]

some boosters are a bit crap anyway so there's no harm in squandering some of them

[latent obsidian]

if you are playing different missions each time you're gonna fill up on at least muted faster than you can use them eventually

[heady moat]

anyway, if you equip a booster, start the level, and realize 'oh shit I have the wrong loadout' - you have one minute (until the SERVER SYNC text appears in the corner) to cancel the expedition without consuming that booster.

[civic wave]

I believe it's 30 seconds, not 60 seconds

[heady moat]

point is, you have until SERVER SYNC appears.

[crimson peak]

uhhh yes

[light oracle]

Looking for teammates to play

[ocean spindle]

hello! u can find people in the LFG channels!

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[ocean spindle]

just some advice!
be sure to do the tutorial first [Training], start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one, ask to not be carried and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel

[spring plank]

does the bat's uncharged swing do enough damage to one shot normal guys?

[fierce walrus]

no

[ocean spindle]

nope

only the hammer cas enough dmg for that and only on shooter hittin em on the occiput if im not wrong

[heady moat]

correct

[lone mortar]

I think its three no charge swings on shooters and lickers with 2 on heads

[minor fractal]

Shooters.

Need perfect back damage, and a head hit.

[lone mortar]

Huh thats cool

The same goes for hammer or just bat?

[minor fractal]

They both have 3 min damage.

So they have identical breakpoints at 0 charge.

[lone mortar]

Uh huh

Thats neat

[past mesa]

It is crazy to me

We couldn’t give bat 4 light tap

[minor fractal]

Not a bad idea, actually.

[past mesa]

It gets occi on strikers then right?

[heady moat]

4*6=24 > 20 so yes

[past mesa]

Well bat would then be a pretty good melee

On par with hammer

Not just be a pocket hammer like it is now

Tbh 4 dmg might be to much

20/6 + .q1 would be enough

[ivory imp]

Does bat still break locks really fast?

[jagged shore]

Yeah

[dry pumice]

Yes

[ivory imp]

And does it still have decent stun?

[jagged shore]

I don't think bat has been changed at all

[ivory imp]

Oh alright. Just reading through stuff made it sound like damage changed, probably just been too long

[jagged shore]

Not since r7 at the very least I'm 99% sure

[ocean spindle]

not since r6

:^

[heady moat]

let's just say 3.3 (19.8 on striker occiput) for now I guess

[past mesa]

Na give it striker occiput

But minimum dmg to get it

Tbh you could give light dmg headshot dmg and not mess with any other break points

Besides mom? Funny moments

[past mesa]

I have a bad idea for you. Give the knife a 1/10 chance to crit dealing double dmg

[icy ruin]

Im new at the game but is it possible to dodge the tongue attacks from the small people

[minor fractal]

Low noise 😔

[past mesa]

Yes

[past mesa]

It would be sick tho Ray

[icy ruin]

Would you just get out of the range then?

[past mesa]

Imagine knife users playing around rng

[minor fractal]

Move in a semi-circle.

[past mesa]

Run to the side of the sleeper

[icy ruin]

Ohhh okay

Thanks guys

[minor fractal]

Running away will get you licked.

[past mesa]

Ray have I told you about the d20 hammer

[neon gust]

dont let ray push in hunt showdown

biggest mistake of my life

[past mesa]

A hammer that chargers instantly but does 1-20 dmg at random

[past mesa]

True

[soft crater]

The epic moment in hunt I've had was when I threw a throwing knife and downed 1 guy and then melee'd his partner rushing me and romero'd the 3rd soon after

Unfortunately I got sniped trying to loot their bodies

[ivory imp]

Always one more

Tragic

[winged turtle]

they aim a cone at you at the start of their animation, and the cone is Very Long but not very wide

[heady moat]

3.333.....4

[soft crater]

The cone is Zero if I kill it

[tough reef]

[winged turtle]

[chilly shoal]

what are those numbers in the lfg chat

do people dox themselves or some shit

[winged turtle]

lobby codes

[chilly shoal]

oh okay

[winged turtle]

when someone hosts a level, other people can ise that code to join

[chilly shoal]

how do you sneak around the mobs

they always aggro on me

[craggy pier]

when they start making noises stop moving

[chilly shoal]

how do i differentiate between the ones that see my flash and ones that dont

[winged turtle]

when they are hit with a flash light or they hear you thwy will move up alertness levels

1. sleeping
2. clicking
3. flapping Throb-bing
4. waking up

[winged turtle]

uhh, learn range of your flashlight by testing if they react or not

[spark wolf]

wtf is flapping

we THROBBING out here

[chilly shoal]

jesus christ

[ocean spindle]

u can play the tutorial

TRAINING

[chilly shoal]

wait so they ALL react to my light at a certain point

[chilly shoal]

yeah great training

all it says is "Sneak around them"

fuck you

[ocean spindle]

'stay low, turn flashlight off, when hostile glows or pulsates, stay still'

[chilly shoal]

thanks

[winged turtle]

BASED

[ocean spindle]

OWO

[chilly shoal]

ez ty

[winged turtle]

at a certain range, depending on the variety of flashlight you have out. different weapons have different flashlights. your headlamp 'on' your melee and carry items is the weakest//shortest range.

[craggy pier]

flapping their gums

[chilly shoal]

confusion

do they like use a mercury battery fym diffy

its 4 am over here and jit trippin imma passout

[winged turtle]

get some rest bud lol

[chilly shoal]

thanks pal

[serene zephyr]

how to kill that new tentical guy

[civic wave]

Full charge hammer/spear to the head
Full charge bat/knife to the back of the head

or any number of guns can kill it depending where you shoot

[strange ocean]

for a start I'd recommend the sniper or hcp

just aim for the head

[civic wave]

I'd recommend learning to melee them, you gotta start somewhere

[strange ocean]

that too

[civic wave]

and being able to shoot/deal with a scout wave is good practice

[serene zephyr]

it run aroud in the dark :<, comes and goes and never dies :<

[civic wave]

if a bit deadly for new players

[serene zephyr]

i tried bullets

[strange ocean]

it's pretty easy to kill the tentacle guy after some practice

trial and error is one way to learn it

[ocean spindle]

its reaction time is very fast so if u tried with like a machinegun, yeah it starts to scream before its dead

[civic wave]

You need to kill it very quickly with bullets otherwise you alert the scout
when you alert the scout, it becomes immune for a short duration while it screams (which wakes up the room, and spawns a wave of enemies 2 rooms away)

[strange ocean]

though you can use cfoam to stop it

and with that you can just blast it when it's stuck in it with anything

[serene zephyr]

can i get close to it?

[civic wave]

High cal pistol/precision rifle (please do not use the precision rifle)/sniper/hel rifle to the head
Hel gun/revolver to the back of the head
Burst cannon also works from anywhere if your shots land

[strange ocean]

when it's walking yes you can close the gap like that

when it spreads it's tentacles out, if you wanna go for the melee you gotta be quicker than the tentacles you just touched

[civic wave]

as long as you
-don't touch the tentacles
-sprint next to it
-directly walk into it
you can walk as you please

[serene zephyr]

ty

[nova geode]

Hello, I am a new player and i just bought the game a couple minutes ago, should I play the old rundowns first or play the new one? I'm not sure if the older ones are different or if they are just an older version of the same story

[ocean spindle]

hello! the old ones r usually the best place to start since they r easier as a whole [well at least rundown 1]

and r also simpler

[nova geode]

are they just a repeated version of the latest rundown though?

or are they entirely different?

[civic wave]

They are reprised versions of the missions/rundowns that were removed from the game since early access began

So they're not repeats of the latest, but repeats of what was previously there

[nova geode]

oh ok

so to get the full story i should play all of them in order?

[civic wave]

There's not a lot of direct story outside of Rundown 7, if you wanted to you could search for logs on the terminals in each level for lore, or just read the logs off the wiki

[nova geode]

so its just extra levels?

[civic wave]

For an idea of what's going on you can read the lore for dummies document that's pinned in the #gtfo-lore channel and that should get you the main points

Yeah, it's more levels. Most levels don't have story elements incorporated into them

[nova geode]

i think i have basic lore down i just want to know if i would be missing out by skipping them

oh alr

[ionic galleon]

Does occiput dmg do more thank head

Than*

[soft crater]

Occiput is a combination

Head+Back

a Giant striker for example has a
Head 1.5x

2x back and occi makes it 3x

back is always 2x

and that's dependent on your position / angle to the enemies back. not where you shoot.

[compact junco]

is the heavy SMG reload busted for anybody else? Reloading an empty mag will replace it with an invisible magazine, reloading standard I do with no hands (pretty sick slight of hand trick?)

also, the damage values for weapons, are there any multipliers for standard chest shots? Cause the Assault Rifle does 2.1 damage or something, and normal sleepers have 20 health, its hard to believe that it'll take a whole ten body shots to kill one?

[soft crater]

It's a full auto weapon

and frontal body damage in general is weaker

frontal body damage is just a 1x in all damages

Back is 2x

[cold quarry]

start from rundown 1

[nova geode]

I am, thanks tho

[compact junco]

I mean it just doesnt feel like 10 shots to body but maybe I slipped a headshot in there. Thanks for info tho

[cold quarry]

strikers have a 3x headshot multi

[soft crater]

the other thing is, AR is basic jack of all trades but master none

[cold quarry]

if you land two bullets in head that's 12ish damage then you just need 4 bodyshots

[soft crater]

10 damage breaks the head of strikers iirc

[cold quarry]

wait they have their own multi so maybe a little less

but still, majorly cuts down on hits to kill

[soft crater]

2 shot headshot + 5 body shots

if my math is correct that is.

1.75 x 3 = 5.25 x 2 = 10.5
10.5 + (2.18 x 5 = 10.9) = 21.4

Precision multiplier is such a strange stat imo

in the fact it mostly balances weakpoint damage to not be overly broken for specific guns

[cold quarry]

i actually like it

enemies having multipliers and guns having their own allows for fine tuning

[nova geode]

why are the player models in the lobby so angry

[winged turtle]

they are suffering from success

[nova geode]

bruh

i want a real answer

i need the LORE

[fierce nebula]

they're all prisoners that are handled like shit
and any "free time" is just hydro-stasis or in a mine full of mutants while The Warden can kill them if they go rogue, using bomb collars

I think that would mentally break a lot of people

[cold quarry]

i thought the bomb collar theory wasn't true

[soft crater]

= - =

[fierce nebula]

was it not true?

how the fuck are the prisoners handled

[nova geode]

i would think that if they went rouge they would die on their own at some point lol

[fierce nebula]

but then whats the point to a lot of things

just treat the prisoners better if they are willing to help

[nova geode]

if you keep following orders then maybe you can get out, if you dont follow orders, then you have to rely on the supplies down there cuz the warden aint gonna help u

[fierce nebula]

I mean that loosely works

but again, we do know most of humanity is an apocalypse right now

just don't get why the treatment is so harsh if these are overwatch hero missions

[nova geode]

prob cuz their prisoners in a dystopian world ig

[fierce nebula]

huh

which yeah, why is the bomb collar a shit theory if the "treat prisoners bad in a dystopian world" is a thing

which also begs the question
if the world is in ruin, how is "getting out of prison" a reward

[nova geode]

hey

the program dosent allow for questions

[fierce nebula]

lol

I just don't understand this conversation

how are bomb collars a bad theory

[nova geode]

not saying its bad

that was the other dude i think

[cold quarry]

i thought it was brainwashing, but our 4 seem to not be affected by that

also kind of...they don't really have any other choice

[sage belfry]

they're being handled by AI and there's actually a lore for why theyre being send down here/reason, but i completely forgot where it is.

just ask on #gtfo-lore , they'll fill you in.

[fierce nebula]

I need to go to sector Lore

lmao

[fierce nebula]

apparently it is brainwashing

[cold quarry]

i heard someone theorize the warden was working on a cure

[wise swift]

how do i input partial decoders into the terminal?

im trying to list them, but not sure what the abbreviation is

i tried PDEC, which is what the wiki shows, but that isnt working

[fierce walrus]

PD

simple but very hard to think of

[cold quarry]

PDEC is outdated

[wise swift]

oh i see, thank you!

would be nice if they added that along with the mission objectives

[latent obsidian]

If needed you can type list into a terminal without any filters to check

[wise swift]

oh, right. will do that next time

is it possible to make bots pick resources and gadgets up?

[icy cave]

Nope

don't expect to finish the game with bots anyways. You'll go far but not all the way

[wise swift]

yeah, i dont plan to

my roommate is sleeping and i wanted to finish off the last 2 missions for R1

[icy cave]

Just in case. so many folks have had their hopes crushed cause they thought it was that kind of a game.

[wise swift]

and since he is sleeping i cant really speak, so im just going in with a bot team - it cant be that hard, right? ;D

[icy cave]

R1 you can easily do with bots, no worries 👍

[wise swift]

nah, i prefer doing this game with a team of ppl, the randoms ive been finding here are very easy to get along with

(on the discord, idk about the in-game match-making)

[icy cave]

In-game MM is ded 😅

yes community is friendly

[glossy echo]

What are you supposed to do when the game opens and on the first loading screen it says unknown alias and does not let you inject?

[wise swift]

bought the game yesterday, experience has been amazing

[icy cave]

Screenshot in #gtfo-media ?

[icy cave]

Game is very well made. atmosphere wise. there are some .....issues. but don't worry about em

[ornate flicker]

Hey everyone! I'm stuck in R1A1 because terminal stopped working, just cant press any buttons near it.
Any solutions? Please 🥹

[icy cave]

Hmmm have you tried going far away and coming back? otherwise ...... reset I guess

or do the level without the terminal 😅

[ornate flicker]

Yep, i don't know why but this keeps happening at random moments for some reason

[glossy echo]

Ill send one soon my friend is redownloading the game

[icy cave]

Weird 🤔

[glossy echo]

@icy cave I sent it

[craggy pier]

Don't lie to him he can get as far as r4e1 and some lvls of r5

[glossy echo]

nvm

[icy cave]

No. the top 2% can.

[wise swift]

yeah, i just lost the mission

R1C2

collected 9/10 PDs, but died because i forgot to cover one entrance during a lvl 3 security scan

[cold quarry]

tip for that one: search up which of the side zones has the key to the big scary door

and only open that side zone. less possibilites for them to swarm you

[hidden ridge]

You can ALWAYS skip one sec door and you might aswell skip either 99 or 98 (check whichever has the key and skip the other), moreover, one of those 2 spawns ||chargers|| the other ||normal waves|| don't remember which.

Also ||they tend to come down the ladder if they spawn in front so if you've sentries just have one or two face the end of the ladder, where they'll land||

[wise swift]

Yeah, i checked and got the key, but I only had 9 out of 10 PDs, and the remainder were either behind the second sec door or all the way back behind another sec door

So I went to open 99 as well

I set up sentries facing the main entrance, but didn't realise they'd be coming from the 98 door as well, and so I got flanked and entire team went down

[wise swift]

I put c-foam on the ladder, and had 2 sentries watching it, but all the sleepers seemed to be coming from the one spot I had 0 coverage on 😂

[hidden ridge]

Yes they can of course spawn 2 rooms away which includes 99-98 whichever you opened

The time I did that map drunk I just had 1 sentry facing 99-98, one facing top of ladder, one facing bottom of ladder

[wise swift]

Also, if I went to the sec door in the beginning that I didn't open, would i be getting those armored dudes spawning? Or would I get easier ones

[hidden ridge]

that doesn't spawn ||chargers|| but one between 98 and 99 always does, dont remember which

[past star]

Someone ask something I need entertainment

[latent obsidian]

My teammate is flying around and shooting the enemies from the sky, is this a bug?

[neon gust]

why are people on the steam forums retar ded?

[latent obsidian]

I know he wouldn't lie to me

[sharp nexus]

Hi there, new to GTFO, how hard would be first level of first rundown?

[past star]

If you beat every rundown you get this feature

[neon gust]

Everything will be hard

just hop in

[past star]

Beat it with eyes closed

[sharp nexus]

Ok

[past star]

You’re the only one on there

[sharp nexus]

How does stealth work here?

[neon gust]

play training

[sharp nexus]

ok

[past star]

Carry me

[neon gust]

@past star sneaky

[past star]

Please

I need every level in r5

But like b4

[neon gust]

Ill be down for E1 only

[fierce nebula]

E1 is so easy

[neon gust]

everyother levels makes me wanna cut my dik off

[past star]

So is your mom

You don’t hear me saying it

[neon gust]

R5C2 overload my baby

[past star]

I died 95% extract on r5d1 because scattereagle stepped off scan

[sharp nexus]

which button for voice chat?

[neon gust]

I just like E1 because its the only level its basically untouch from the original

[neon gust]

bottom left will tell you

[past star]

Look in settings

[fierce walrus]

alt i think

[lusty bramble]

I'm going to deactivate alarms the shadow alarm

Also that's untrue, r5 is relatively untouched

[neon gust]

hell no

NU UH

[past star]

Just like me

[lusty bramble]

B1 main still lags the game, b4 is still a drag, a3 is still a drag, d1 is still a drag

C3 is basically the same except no code resist

[neon gust]

c2 overload its shit

[lusty bramble]

It's toned down

[neon gust]

B3 its a waiting fest

[lusty bramble]

But you can no longer skip it with bioscan boosters

[topaz anvil]

Proof that b2 is still the best r5 level

[neon gust]

They needed to tone it UP

Not down

[neon gust]

no joking your right

[lusty bramble]

People struggled with its first release

[neon gust]

well sucks to be them then

[worthy trail]

oh no, people struggled

[neon gust]

its a "EXTREME" game

[topaz anvil]

My team keeps saying i say this just to be different, but no b2 is just better

[worthy trail]

struggling not allowed

[lusty bramble]

Actually it's overload 🤓

[neon gust]

Game loosing its identity

😭 .

[topaz anvil]

Its first release was kinda fucked up

[worthy trail]

took you some time to realize

[lusty bramble]

I don't think any of the levels have been as fucked as c3 on release

[neon gust]

nah

alt r1 trough r4 was alright

[lusty bramble]

Your ass is deranged

[neon gust]

r3 been buffed gave me a sense of security

[neon gust]

you can keep ignoring me

[lusty bramble]

They only buffed d1

What sense of security is thay

[neon gust]

literally r3 was perfect

[lusty bramble]

A3 is still total dogshit

[neon gust]

we dont talk about A3

i put it on the same category of it never happend alongisde R4B3, R5B4

[lusty bramble]

R3d1 was always a well designed level

[neon gust]

and they buff it !

[worthy trail]

R3 buffed like they gave David (the players) a machinegun and gave Goliath (the game) teeth protection

[lusty bramble]

What does that even mean

I can't take a bite 🤤

[neon gust]

r5 needed a rework(secondary) of r5b1 and b4 and buff the rest

[worthy trail]

that means omegabuffed tools and weapons without proportional buffs to difficulty

[lusty bramble]

Sniper sentry

The omega buffed tool

[neon gust]

OG R5 was even broken

they tone down the spawns alot

[worthy trail]

can't remember sniper sentry in OG R3

[neon gust]

in the alt

[lusty bramble]

That's because none of the sentries worked

Mines didn't even work

[neon gust]

yep

[hidden ridge]

I've never played og but didnt they just buff r3d1?

[lusty bramble]

"Loss of identity" also known as them fixing the broken ass game

[neon gust]

mines killing 2 people out 18 behind a door

[neon gust]

of course

its too easy now

theres no action

[lusty bramble]

"Knife was better when it was rng whether you killed the scout or not" 🤓

[neon gust]

r5 was suppose to be a culmination of all the things you learned on r1-r4

they nerf it for no reason

[worthy trail]

akshually that was R6 when it started going to shit 🤓

[lusty bramble]

Where was the pouncer in r1 to r4

[past star]

A simple rounding error. A bug in the game (the devs can multiply I swear)

[neon gust]

you talking like adding a pouncer justified the wave changes in r5c2

[lusty bramble]

Your ass is so hung up on them reducing the waves

[worthy trail]

wasnt that the orientation bug?

which was then replaced by sniper melee?

[neon gust]

i rather have cringe people giant kite on sit on spawn waiting for the timer to go out than make the level as it is right now

[neon gust]

because that literally half the fun on this game

[lusty bramble]

Enemy density isn't the only fun in this game

Mod dev mindset 🤢🤢🤢

[neon gust]

bruh

dont talk to me

im mad at you

[lusty bramble]

How about some more big chargers 🤓

[topaz anvil]

How about more enemies 😍

[fierce walrus]

how about balancing weapons?

[lusty bramble]

Waiter waiter more pouncers please!

[topaz anvil]

No

[worthy trail]

as long as they don't start skipping frames in the new "fixed shit" "optimized" version

[topaz anvil]

No more snatchers

[lusty bramble]

Most of the weapons are in a good state

It's just that you get a shit ton of resources

[past star]

Not in r5d1

[lusty bramble]

Bread I will help you with r5d1

[past star]

But that level sleepy

Yay

[past star]

We went through 3 prom cycles and I have to mine the baby wave as last up

:)

[lusty bramble]

Have you tried cfoam trip

[past star]

I had one…

And used it

[neon gust]

how the fuck do you had 3 pmom cycles

[past star]

Don’t ask me

[gaunt timber]

guys can i ask for a group in lfg but using different language than english? or at least what language i prefer?

[lusty bramble]

They all had autopistols...

[neon gust]

golly

[past star]

Pretty sure I’m the only one who shot her

With choke mod

[lusty bramble]

Did you use the chokemod cheese

[worthy trail]

stagger meta

[past star]

Not intentionally but I was on a hotspot

So probably

[topaz anvil]

Yes, which language

[fierce walrus]

umm if you write it in english and another langauge then surely you can

I dunno about only other langauge

[hidden ridge]

I'm pretty sure he can, but he'd have more luck in specific discords for that

[fierce walrus]

yeah definitly

[gaunt timber]

arabic

[past star]

Put post in English but also say arabic preferred

[gaunt timber]

thanks man

[sudden flume]

hi sorry to be bothersome but how far can you get through the rundowns with just 2 players? i know the later rundowns are mostly impossible without 4 people but i'm just asking because a buddy and i wanted to start with some of the earlier ones and i just wanted to know what's the cutoff where playing with a full group is basically required

[strange ocean]

as far as I know most if not every rundown can be done with just 2 players, might be hard as hell at some points but it is doable

[sudden flume]

would you recommend looking for a full squad here for starting out just to make sure its not incredibly hard at the start?

[tribal fossil]

Anyone can help us for R2C2 ? We spent ages (literally, we don't get to play as 4 often) on R2C1, and now same for this one, and because of the dumb reddit protest there's no way to get advices

[latent obsidian]

even as beginners with 2 players and 2 bots you can complete quite a lot

I wouldn't stress about finding 3rd and 4th players unless you find yourself struggling

[sudden flume]

ok tysm! have a nice day!

[latent obsidian]

and you 🙂

[strange ocean]

for a start yeah looking for a whole squad is a good idea to let you get more into the game though duo is also nice for a beginning, you'll for sure find folks in the lfg chats, just ask to not be carried

tho as ellda said, 2 players and 2 bots is already good

[latent obsidian]

What part are you dying on?

and what tools are you bringing

[tribal fossil]

We're just dying from exhaustion, because there's so much coming

[fathom ermine]

if you need 3 player i can help but im new to the game

[sacred dew]

I have not seen a level that could not be completed by 2 people before
R2E1, R4E1, and R7E1 can be done with 2 people

[tribal fossil]

3 turrets and a tracker

[latent obsidian]

You can put half of your team on guard duty to deal with the error waves and have the other guys looking for objective items on the terminal if that makes it easier, its only 3 enemies at a time so shouldn't be too bad

At the first terminal you find list the zones with the filter for the objective item to figure out how many there are in each area and help plan where you should go

[tribal fossil]

ok thanks, we'll try

[dry pumice]

As far as D levels

Just don't bother with overloads

(not a thing until R4)

Frankly most Ds are not even that bad either... Although it's case by case.

[latent obsidian]

Game knowledge aside 2 players 2 bots doesn't seem too bad

The biggest downsides will be resource management and heavy shooting sections

besides that you only really need 2 independant players for most of the content

[sacred dew]

The biggest downside is when you have to solo hold and solo stealth

resources are plenty

2 people shooting can be pretty bad if it's a surge alarm but regular alarms are meh~~~

bots are kinda in the way when you have another intelligent player with you

R1 can easily be done with 2 people

R2 can be pretty be pretty tought but map knowledge will carry you very far in this rundown

R3 does test your wave holding skill but R3D1 can be done with 2 people with mild difficulty

[tardy ingot]

D2 and E1 are the only rough ones for that ye

[sacred dew]

R4 is too DAMN BIG

R5 is admittedly kinda hard for 2 people

R7 is fun for 2

[tribal fossil]

We did it second try, thanks !

[craggy pier]

how i can fix this?

GTFO by 10 Chambers Collective [version: Unity 2019.4.21f1_b76dac84db26]

AkSoundEngine.dll caused an Access Violation (0xc0000005)
in module AkSoundEngine.dll at 0033:0d2d8b5e.

[latent obsidian]

nice one 🙂

[dry pumice]

Question for #1049599987878723635
I'm assuming the game crashed after sounds dissappeared? Thats a relatively common issues with this game, unity engine be kinda cringe.

[sacred dew]

Unity Engine is pretty good for a game engine

[dry pumice]

My experience with the products from this engine has been... Subpar.

People should stop making AAA style projects on it, me thinks.

[neon gust]

Its not the engine its the dev

afaik too we still on unity 2019

so devs just didnt update their engine since r4

im probably wrong on that since r6 had some upgrades graphically

[sacred dew]

I dont think they have the need to, there's no features with the new versions that they need to implement into the game

it's not the engine that's lacking

[neon gust]

the only thing devs really need to do its update their own tools inside the engine

like level gen and other stuff

their tools are actually impressive as hell

[sacred dew]

Detangle the spaghetti code and multithread this game

[sacred dew]

Agreed, they implemented their own camera culling system which is very impressive

I think the only feature I would like from the engine is FSR, which can be patched into the engine for the dev but I dont know how that would work out

@upper ginkgo shut up, dont tell me to hard code it in myself

[neon gust]

that would be really nice tbh

but even then i do think they need to optimize the game

lots of game kinda releasing with fsr

and just saying lol just use fsr if it runs badly

or its nvidia counterpart

[sacred dew]

FSR helps with GPU problem but GTFO has more of a CPU bottleneck problem

[hidden ridge]

dlss

but they dont really work the same way

[sacred dew]

no DLSS please

that introduce latency in my game

[hidden ridge]

the end result might look the same, there's a gamers nexus video that goes VERY indepth about FSR (AMD), DLSS (Nvidia) and XLSS (Intel)

[neon gust]

personally i havent got a really good experience with dlss

[sacred dew]

FSR 1.0 works basically the same as MSAA (which is required for FSR 1.0)

[neon gust]

fsr tho carries

[sacred dew]

FSR 2.0 is about the same as DLSS working principals wise

I just want FSR 1.0

i dont want high latency in my game

max 2 render queue frames is already high enough latency

[hidden ridge]

I like DLSS when I dont put it on the absolute extremes of ultra-perf or ultra-quality, but I try NOT to use it for MP games

[rotund stirrup]

Doing R1C1 with my brother and he has to run an errand. Should I worry about leaving the game just kinda sitting for 15-30 mins? We haven't gotten very far, just through a couple sec doors

[hidden ridge]

Short answer NO, but dont press ESC nor TAB

Just leave it running as is

[rotund stirrup]

got it, thank you very much

[hidden ridge]

I had to do that a couple of times in my runs

On the other hand

It takes like 8minutes to get where you are (even less than that tbh but whatever)

[rotund stirrup]

yea true, I just set a ton of mines the whole way through and I don't want to have to replace them

First time doing this mission so I'm assuming we are going to have a fun time getting back

[hidden ridge]

||Not really, no, there's stuff to do before you can go back||, but I won't spoil anything for you.

[soft crater]

[chilly shoal]

where do i find lobby code

me is blind

[fierce walrus]

When in a lobby at the very right side of the screen

or at the bottom of settings

[chilly shoal]

thank you kind man

[fierce walrus]

tools change depending on mission

i give my bots burst rifle and revolver

it works pretty well

[ocean spindle]

usually long range automatic guns always work best for bots, since if they do friendly dmg is minimal, and they always shoot enemies from a distance, usually u always carry the big firepower if its needed
sentries doesn't change with the bots, but for sentries:
burst is usually the more flexible one, good dmg, good ammo, very nice in most situations
shotgun works in close quarters, around corners or pointing at ladders, tho it's ammo can b wasted a bit with bio tracker since it shoots faster than it track enemies, and in long ranges it's just not worth
sniper is nice for big dmg and range, but without bio tracker it shoots really slowly and it's overkill for normal waves
and auto sentry it's very situational since it only staggers and doesn't really dmg enemies and can burn a lot of tool if used incorrectly

[lone mortar]

By far for tools just go with c foam for you and one of each tools for bots depending on level change the sentry

Bots are just better at bio tracking

And theyre the worst when it comes to both cfoam and combat

[ocean spindle]

the worst in combat? i guess u see it like that it's fair

[fierce walrus]

yeah foam is kinda annoying with bots

not terrible unless you are in combat

[ocean spindle]

usually with my bots i have one of foam one on bio one in sentry
but yeah their funky with foam, u need to get her em to stand in the right place

i'm just very used to using mines since i put em in funky places

but that's a me problem

[fierce walrus]

yeah bots cannot put mines up high

[ocean spindle]

but also i just kinda change their load outs depending on the mission !

sometimes i have 3 sentries or 2 sentries one mine or

i change some bits to have a bit more firepower

it's situational

[winged turtle]

ya, never give a bot c-foam, but besides that they do just fine

[ocean spindle]

qwq

mh, i mean
if ur new entering a level and u don't know whats gonna b about, usually foam mines sentry and bio r the best first-time loadout

[lone mortar]

[fierce walrus]

i don't know how strong shotgun sentries are rn, but i know burst is currently the bst

[ocean spindle]

but if u want two sentries, yeah two bursts r ok, but if u feel like u need more dmg

use the sniper

or a shotgun if it's close quarters yeah

i think shotgun is a lil more flexible

[fierce walrus]

shotgun used to suck

[ocean spindle]

i hate writin in phone omg

[fierce walrus]

i don't know if it still does

[ocean spindle]

nah

[fierce walrus]

i feel you

[ocean spindle]

much ammo

it's ok

been buffed a lot

[lone mortar]

Burst are good in any

[winged turtle]

shotgun sentry got buffed twice

[lone mortar]

But with bio tagged and cpu speeds

[winged turtle]

shotgun and sniper both have that buff

[ocean spindle]

yeah Bio tracker symbiosis means it shoots faster at pinged enemies, and saves some ammo between shoots

[lone mortar]

Makes them more intimidating

[ocean spindle]

just with shotgun it's, REALLY fast

and can shoot dead bodies

[lone mortar]

Auto

[ocean spindle]

basically

[winged turtle]

but for sniper it helps it to be good enough to be played

[lone mortar]

And remember sentries always aim for the head

Man if sentries had back damage

[fierce walrus]

do they not?

[lone mortar]

Sadly removed

[cold quarry]

They did in the past but it was really op

[lone mortar]

Yep

A burst could literally stop and kill giants

Rendering it not cool

🤓

[cold quarry]

Imagine putting the current day shotty sentry watching the front side of a door

Theyd never break it

[lone mortar]

No

Cause enemies dont have an animation and or a specific way to affect the door

So every tick they stay close to the door

[ocean spindle]

wish u lots of luck for ur runs !!!

[lone mortar]

Means a door bang for each one of them counting from the earliest one that reached that door to the slowest one

Have fun and always stay hydrated

GTFO and see you later

[ocean spindle]

:D

[winged turtle]

woot! i am excited to hear it!

[fierce walrus]

good luck

[lone mortar]

Aighr back to what i was saying

[ocean spindle]

right doors

[lone mortar]

Do you guys think hammering a big charger is a funky move

[ocean spindle]

yes

but depending on ur skill

the good kind

[lone mortar]

I like to throw hands on those Mfs

[winged turtle]

funky, but with 3 other hammer people you trust it can be worth

[lone mortar]

The whole room with 7 NBA players

The sniper sentry with 89% cpu speed POV:

[ocean spindle]

would b cool to see the POV of a sentry

like aiming at enemies n such during an alarm

[lone mortar]

It would be a zoom on the iron sights shooting and automatically aiming

Like lightning reflex aims

[ocean spindle]

um sadly yes kdmsm

i love my bat

but hammer is much more dmg

3 hits to the back and it's dead

tho for bots it doesn't matter

[lone mortar]

The hammer is a jack of all good stats

[ocean spindle]

bots act the same with all melee, i think the only difference being they don't run with spear so dont let em use it

[lone mortar]

Bigger damage charged hit

A vertical line of hit box

You can 1v20 smol but cant stay in the ring with Frank for 2 secs

[ocean spindle]

it's cool to have a knife if u have a team to back u up for big ones

[lone mortar]

Yep

[ocean spindle]

or if it's a mission where there's just like 2

which most a1s are

[lone mortar]

It’s easy when you know pre charging

Makes half the time easier to pick at easy or lone targets

And or stopping one from screaming in that room

Hybird POV:

[fierce walrus]

i do not think so

[wintry pond]

where is the join button to join a lobby? i have a code but i dion't see a way to put int the code

[fierce walrus]

if you have a code copied then a red button the left side of the rundown will apear saying „JOIN xyz”

make sure you are not already in a lobby though

also sometimes the game bugs out and does not register the code, requring a restart

[civic wave]

and make sure that you only have the numbers copied, and there's no space or other syntax somewhere

[lone mortar]

No

They always and will always steal yo shit

Ye

You will on certain levels

Getting licked while hacking aint fun

[fierce walrus]

and then you will fail it at the worst possible moment

[lone mortar]

[ocean spindle]

u can "make" bots use their melters if u just go close to a hack and then a bit away
but it's
inconsistent at best

[fierce walrus]

And bots do not want to melt locks on lockers that are on shelves

[ocean spindle]

weird usually bots prioritize mines n foam over everythin else

[fierce walrus]

well

it will be unexpected

[lone mortar]

Because they are truly the best consumables

[fierce walrus]

especially cause regular locks might get you then

[ocean spindle]

yeah

but glowies

[lone mortar]

Thing go worse and it will

[fierce walrus]

or you will nees to break a regular lock

and that will make a sound

[lone mortar]

Good luck prisoner

https://tenor.com/view/gtfo-hop-on-gaming-bug-glitch-gif-26288681

Soon.Tm

[fierce walrus]

hahaha

[lone mortar]

Weapons of choice?

Ye

Whose loadout would i ask

If you favour the arbalist

Try the veruta

Very versatile in any situation

And can hold 3 entire waves if positions correctly

Arbalist offers raw damage but veruta offers stagger and more dmgs during staggers which i love most

Yep

And 60 per mag dumping a whole wave is kinda insanely good

[tiny tundra]

Enemies don't take more damage when they're staggered they just stand still which is what makes the wave stopping power of Veruta so strong, I thought

Stagger multiplier is just how much faster than weapon makes the enemy stagger

[lone mortar]

Bruh

Arbalist stagger dmg multiple =x1

Veruta 1x45

[tiny tundra]

Right, Veruta staggers more

[latent obsidian]

almost certain that more damage during stagger is not a thing

It might have a stagger multiplier that means it does more stagger than the damage would normally

[tiny tundra]

^

[latent obsidian]

oh you did that already

[lone mortar]

Aight

[tiny tundra]

Like Autopistol has 5x stagger multiplier but it still has non-existent killing power

[lone mortar]

[cold quarry]

stagger damage means easier to get them to stagger

not more damage while staggered

[ocean spindle]

stagger dmg is gettin em staggered i've come to join this chain of correction

[lone mortar]

Or mybe not

Yeah i am dum

[tiny tundra]

Veruta is still good, not a bad rec lol

[lone mortar]

Ye

Rambo= veruta

Battle ship turret = Arbalist basically

[ocean spindle]

i am the guy that says no guns bad guns, i think all of em have a place n a situation to b useful in

so just try em all

in case u haven't

[lone mortar]

Klust having a really special usage in R4E1 by dark4eva maybe

[ocean spindle]

probs idk

but it's still a good gun

[lone mortar]

Yeah

But after rework you use it like a shotgun

It still can back shot one burst down charger scout and Tyrone tho

I angy cause the amount of Franks in the 2nd 2 scout room before Error alarm

[ocean spindle]

me not knowin r4e1: yes

[lone mortar]

Damn

Its gonna be fun for u

[ocean spindle]

yayyy

[sturdy glen]

do you mean r5e1

[lone mortar]

Oh hey chill

[lone mortar]

The 9 giants walking through

[ocean spindle]

when u start like seein the patterns on the companies that makes the guns u will know u succeeded

:]

[lone mortar]

Omg its jish

[past mesa]

cell skip pubs

is the best gtfo thing

[lone mortar]

Jish how do i beat ur duo WR R3D1

[past mesa]

in the game

[sturdy glen]

howd it go

get any successful?

[past mesa]

we made it to the end twice

i have a new surge method

that makes it easier harder

[lone mortar]

Had most trouble after class 4 alarm and then clearing out the charger in the divider room

[sturdy glen]

hm?

[lone mortar]

Got a bug where u couldn’t even hear the Tyrones running by

Thought it was cleared but nope

[lone mortar]

Hey jish would you recommend fighting through the whole mother + tank big room or no?

[past mesa]

it is the only way i play it

[lone mortar]

Damn

[past mesa]

but it isnt recommended

[dull spade]

so I am curious cause I've only just now started playing with a friend of mine, do the alt rundowns still have the original lore?

[past mesa]

yeah and some new

[lone mortar]

I only fought the whole xharger tank room

[lone mortar]

Completely new tbh

[dull spade]

D:

[lone mortar]

Dw

[winged turtle]

🔔

[lone mortar]

Not the 🔔

[dull spade]

another thing is how come the alt runs dont have the yellow mission boxes?

[past mesa]

cell skip cell skip cell skip cell skip

[winged turtle]

@grizzled widget

[lone mortar]

Splain what cell skip is

Splain that

[winged turtle]

i was ringing the lore bell

[past mesa]

instead of using the first cell to turn off error use it to open the door to the end

[lone mortar]

Oh my god

You go through everything?!

No door glitch no bull shit?

[dull spade]

tbf I was debating just watching a video on the lore but I didn't know if its the kind of thing where its atleast semi directly shown or if its all hiden behind niche logs and hard to find secrets

[lone mortar]

How’d you do it?

[lone mortar]

Well it isn’t actually secrets

Its more like on logs and characters chatting more

[dull spade]

oh

I see

[dry pumice]

@lone mortar I've actually spent all my free work time comparing old to new logs today. They are all mostly the same with some minor differences and even an additional info here and there.

[dull spade]

oh qwq

[lone mortar]

And environments give stories as well

[dry pumice]

So the old, yet enhanced lore is still in the game.

[lone mortar]

Yeah

[past mesa]

just shoot

[dry pumice]

Woods killed 1 less person during his rampage but ate an extra 9th bullet from the police as a trade off.

[lone mortar]

I mean im just sayin that alt is new

[past mesa]

hammer wave and be very very safe

[lone mortar]

How 2 mothers?

[past mesa]

half pull room

twice

[lone mortar]

How clear infection

[past mesa]

one mom on each

[past mesa]

YOU DOT

[sturdy glen]

you dont

[past mesa]

LOL

[lone mortar]

What in the actual fuck

[sturdy glen]

you get what

5 total uses of dis?

[past mesa]

5 uses

yup

[lone mortar]

I have to join in on this journey

I must see it through

[past mesa]

3 after tank

2 before error

[lone mortar]

5 uses

On who and what they do tho?

Any long kites used?

Btw I learned long kite term from @sacred dew

[dull spade]

so how is the game with a full party? So far I've only played a bit with bots and now I only have 1 friend .-.

[lone mortar]

Just post on lfg my dude

[dull spade]

fair

[sturdy glen]

🗿

[dull spade]

but rn we're doing a mission and idk if he wants to have more people

[lone mortar]

Everyones here to guide your need of clearing

[dull spade]

OH THANK GOD

[lone mortar]

Damn dude

You guys are insane

[dull spade]

sorry I'm kinda scarred if you've ever done d2 raids

people aren't the kindest in there-

especially to people new to the concept

[lone mortar]

D2 raids?

Which D2

[dull spade]

destiny 2

😔

[lone mortar]

Dis is gtfo related

But nonetheless just post in lfgs

Ppl will come to you

[ocean spindle]

as in general duos are nice, u can complete every mission in the game
but do take into account the more people the easier it'll b, not that it becomes super easy but generally the more bots the more work u need to do

cause bots just kinda are filling for weapons and tools

they don't sneak kill

[dull spade]

yeah but what I mean is the people in D2 raids were like ruthless

[dull spade]

yeah :p they're kinda useless from what I've seen

[past mesa]

just shoot we have a mom kill box

but that is it

[ocean spindle]

nah they oki, they help if u fuck up sneakin, they do combat fairly ok

it's ok

they ok

just general humans are more flexible

:^

[lone mortar]

Yeah ima have to jump when u guys are speeding to be honest

Its 3:28 am and im still gaping my mouth when i heard cell skip

Holy shit that is cruel

Error = chargers class 3 x2 into scan into class 4 in fog