gtfo-related-questions

[fierce walrus]

you can keep hitting it

thanks to stagger

hammer and bat can solo giants

casue they stagger a lot

[minor fractal]

The extra damage on head is mostly redundant, and still possible to get w/out causing glows.

Again, pre-stand.

[novel sand]

Ok we'll experiment

[minor fractal]

Again, hit trade in crouch.

[ocean spindle]

technically is more dmg, cause hammer hits more w/o a headshot

cause spear doesnt have as much dmg, it just got a slight precision multi

which is kinda useless

[minor fractal]

I'm actually curious if spears + head do more damage than hammers + head...

[ocean spindle]

since hammer can do basically spear can

and more

[minor fractal]

Also, if you are looking way up from crouch...

with spear

[ocean spindle]

like oneshot a shooter from the back

[minor fractal]

you are losing a huge amount of damage.

Because your hit is quite high above the camera.

[ocean spindle]

does that

affect

dmg?

[minor fractal]

It affects the back multi, yes.

[ocean spindle]

whut

[minor fractal]

If anyone ever talks about a "rounding error" on melee weapons...

it doesn't exist.

It's all back multi.

The only rounding error related to melee I can think of is w/ IIX.

[woeful kiln]

and boosters

[minor fractal]

and maybe boosters, but they're wacky values anyway.

If you jump for a perfect back head and then get three full frontal hits, you will do exactly 120 damage (60+20+20+20)

And shooter backhead w/ 0 charge is possible, ofc.

And consistent if you position correctly.

[minor fractal]

W8, what are people's examples for this, btw?

Because depending on the values, it might also just be back damage.

[woeful kiln]

i don't have any apart from randombullshit

but i remember something weird when i was messing around with +500% melee booster

[soft crater]

I only recall that one discussion where if you don't have the perfect angle behind them. You don't get the full back damage 2x

But in terms of actual rounding errors I've positive were was when I full charged a striker with hammer and it didn't die

(I've only had it happen twice out my 1000 or so hours but not a consistent thing to use as an excuse imo)

[river dove]

What is a good strategy to do r5a3 prisoner efficiency?

Overload and then secondary?

[dry pumice]

Granted you have a choice: whichever one activates error alarms goes last

Which, of course, you wouldn't know which one until you try blindly doing one

Usually it's the overload

But there are exceptions, much to my shigrin

[river dove]

Well me and my friend tried it once, completed secondary and had the choice between main and overload but the error alarm kept going off and died during overload

[dry pumice]

Was the error part of secondary or of just main

[river dove]

Secondary at the end

[dry pumice]

Then try doing overload first

Inb4 it activistes one too because fuck you

[river dove]

I don't think it has one. We saw every sec door and it was either a normal scan or class v

[dry pumice]

I would do ov first then

[soft crater]

Ayo. Spitters did nothing wrong

[dry pumice]

Fuck error

[soft crater]

We just enter their personal space and they retaliate

[next socket]

Me: literally just standing there

Spitter: "and I took that personally"

[hidden ridge]

R5A3's easiest order is overload then extreme then high

Extreme's bulkhead key is bhind the error so you can't avoid starting that

the error looked MUCH harder in the OG but maybe that's just my impression

Still, Overload first is easier

Overload makes fog go up a bit

[craggy pier]

well they made most 3 striker/shooter errors silent

because according to 10cc, that's a meaningful way to increase the difficulty

[lusty bramble]

Actually according to 10cc, Cyberheist 2024 new announcement new game from the makers of payday and gtfo Cyberheist announcement trailer 2024 coming this October new trailer October 2024 Cyberheist

[arctic marten]

is this real

[strange ocean]

I've been wondering for a while now
Is it normal that sentries sometimes just decide to shoot one bullet whenever they're filled with tool refill? Had it happen to me more than once with sniper sentry and just got blasted with it or blasted a bot because of it being in front of the sentry

[dry pumice]

Can DTP "oneshot" a scout?

[dry pumice]

Literally never seen that happen. You're saying you're feeding it tool and it just takes a free shot for no reason?

[strange ocean]

yeah last time it happened was on a reactor level

[jagged shore]

i think it only happens for host

[strange ocean]

I was filling up a sniper sentry and it blasted bishop

with no enemies nearby

[jagged shore]

yeah i see that happen a fair bit so it's pretty normal

[dry pumice]

weird, never experienced that

then again i avoid full refilling sentry

and when i do - its usually on the player already

[strange ocean]

don't think so

[dry pumice]

i go out of my way to not over-refill already deployed ones

[strange ocean]

let me check real quick for you

[jagged shore]

it's not a matter of overfilling @dry pumice

in fact it's the opposite

when it's empty and you refill it is when it happens

[dry pumice]

oooohhhhhhh

[jagged shore]

at least every time i've seen

[dry pumice]

when its at 0

right

okay, that makes sense

it probably wanted to shoot the last enemy it saw but couldnt

[jagged shore]

mathematically it looks like it should btw yeah

[dry pumice]

the commands to shoot gets stuck and is released upon refill

[jagged shore]

is also funny to me that sawed-off can one-shot ||c||scouts

[dry pumice]

good point

[strange ocean]

yeah only when it's empty

forgot to put that

and answering your question artek

it should? if it would be 4 shots in the occiput

by that meaning 2 m1's with it

[jagged shore]

shouldn't it one-burst?

to occi

[fierce nebula]

skill isue

[strange ocean]

I don't remember correctly

[dry pumice]

the maths people, the maths

just do some multiplying

[strange ocean]

most of the times I just melee them or shoot them with snipers or hcp so

[jagged shore]

oh, yeah nvm
the sheet i looked at listed the damage in the burst as one

so instead of 5.51 it was 11.02
granted that was a me issue misreading it now that i look back lol

cause it was actually "5.51 (11.02)"

so yeah no one-burst

[dry pumice]

unfortunate

still no main to delete scouts from range

[strange ocean]

I don't think there is a main that can kill scouts from range

unless you're an excellent shot

[dry pumice]

exactly

[fierce nebula]

just don't miss? lmao

[strange ocean]

it's as shrimple as that

[dry pumice]

if you want to have an option of surprise scout deletion - you have to bring a cut out special

[strange ocean]

wdym you can't kill the scout

just shoot it

[dry pumice]

i'm so tired of bringing the long rangers

but every single time i bring anything else - always a situation arises where someone must quickly kill one from range and like... fuck me

[fierce nebula]

use the PDW to kill the scout

[jagged shore]

bring bullpup Kappa

[fierce nebula]

someone said it was the best weapon, the PDW

[strange ocean]

nah hel autopistol is better for scouts

who's trying to fool you

[fierce nebula]

someone

[strange ocean]

better get used to killing them from close range then

[jagged shore]

sprint at them and make it a close range situation :p

[strange ocean]

you've got way more weapon choices for that

[strange ocean]

I mEAN it works

for bonking them with a hammer at least

[jagged shore]

yeah, i always sprint to extend them when hammering

[strange ocean]

same

though sometimes it fucks me over

maybe because of trying to hit them like a dumbass when they are higher than me

[tranquil arch]

Always jump attack scout if on higher elevation or if from behind.

Especially behind. Rear hitbox sucks for some reason.

[strange ocean]

yeah I

should start doing it a bit more

practicing jump attacks on regular strikers and shooters for now since

last time I got a near heart attack after almost missing a jump attak on scout

[sick wren]

Hey guys! I just found this game - huge fan of Co op type games like Darktide and such. Is there matchmaking in this game? None of my friends play. And is it still being updated?

[soft crater]

Matchmaking is dead/unreliable

you're better off using the LFG channels here in the server

[soft crater]

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[ocean spindle]

just some advice for the LFG n beginnin in the game!!
be sure to do the tutorial first [Training], start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one, ask to not be carried and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
also yes! we just got an update and theres prob content till the end of the year or so

:]

[clever root]

Anybody have a tier list for weapons from ALT R4? If there’s even a tier list for ALT R5 then please show me

[ocean spindle]

tier lists on this game are usually
very subjective

every gun has kinda a place and a situation to work

just goin off of A and S tiers might not b ideals

cause theres only probs like 5 guns there

and itll b subjective

[clever root]

Oh ok

Btw what do you use? I use Sawed-Off Shotgun & Revolver, but I’m thinking of trying other weapons

[ocean spindle]

i try to use as many weapons as i can ksmdk
usually id say try every weapon in the game at least twice, so u know what works with it, what combos u can use, which ones good for which situation

rn im just, tryin new guns ksmdk

[past mesa]

ray alot had a teir list on reddit that i full agree with. r5 additions not inculded

[ocean spindle]

double tab rifle feels nice

[clever root]

Send me a photo as I can’t access it due to it being private

[clever root]

I’m real tempted to try it

[past mesa]

i cant either

no one can tbh

[ocean spindle]

it just needs like bit of practice cause u gotta aim a lil bit funkier

since the recoil shoots the bullet a bit up

but if u hit bodyshot headshot

it works pretty nicely

[past mesa]

i would try hel rev hel gun as the meta loadout if that is what you are looking for

carbine also very good

[clever root]

It might be a good alternative to the sawed off, as revolver one-shots strikers and shooters

[past mesa]

but all the shotguns in special and anything are very good

[ocean spindle]

for revo i usually go more for automatics for when im overwhelmed with it, but it could also work

[clever root]

I actually hate hel revolver. It’s good for dealing damage, but I like to one-shot my enemies

[ocean spindle]

ohh almost no main is gonna do that

[past mesa]

unfo the mains wont really do that

[clever root]

Anything that doesn’t require you to aim is a good pairup with the revolver

[ocean spindle]

even dmr which is like biggest dmg with oneshot, it cant oneshot striker, only shooters

[past mesa]

i pair rev with pistol or rev of anything that can finish off a body shot on the rev

[ocean spindle]

maybe but i like takin shoots with revo then when a whole wave cames, i pull out a pdw or similars but thats a nice strat too

[clever root]

Also Pistol is goated

Main pistol

High caliber is bad

[ocean spindle]

i dont like high cal i agree i dont like havin to headshot shooters to oneshot

[clever root]

Wait. High cal can’t one-shot shooters?

I mean body shot only?

[ocean spindle]

before

it got nerfed from 30 dmg to 25

[past mesa]

no

[clever root]

:(

[past mesa]

it cant one shot chargers

which is a bigger issue tbh

[clever root]

Does it one-shot now?

[past mesa]

no

[ocean spindle]

nope still nerfed

[clever root]

Bad move

High cal needs that 30 damage

[weary mesa]

it really don't

[clever root]

That’s why I dislike DMR: it’s shy of that threshold to kill strikers

[weary mesa]

Combine it with your main

[past mesa]

true

[clever root]

:0 PISTOL AND HIGH CAL PISTOL

[past mesa]

i dont run it becasue i like sniper and hel gun to much tbh

[clever root]

it all makes sense

[weary mesa]

that's a bad one lmao

[clever root]

I guess high cal is a good support weapon for dealing with tankier enemies.

[soft crater]

high cal is ight

[weary mesa]

Quick swap weapon combos are my favorite

[clever root]

I still think it should be reverted. It has a slow fire rate and high recoil, so its already balanced out

[ocean spindle]

its there and it does things
think it has more ammo than the shotties so it has somethin

but not a lot either

[weary mesa]

Too bad half of the good quick swap secondaries are bugged

[clever root]

Btw, is precision rifle good?

[soft crater]

Me when sawed off has sway bug

[weary mesa]

it do be a shotgun

[soft crater]

[clever root]

It do be shooting guns

[soft crater]

eats my fried rice in sadness

[weary mesa]

Why we calling it sway bug when it only affects shotguns tho

[ocean spindle]

mh precision rifle is not
super great in my opinion
the reloads considerably slow, it doesnt work super well on big ones [unless their head doesnt explode, aka hybrids]
and it kinda just is a long range dmr but with a smaller mag size

for some levels is not bad, specially with a team that has other weapons that fill other niches

or, so i would think

its been a while since i picked it up

[soft crater]

precision rifle is nice if you need to a distant scout imo

[clever root]

They should give it a silencer. That would make it really good

[soft crater]

no

[past mesa]

all guns already have silencers

if you are good enough

[clever root]

Oh

[soft crater]

looks at sawed silencer

but am I good enough?

[past mesa]

idk

[ocean spindle]

silencers r never happenin :D

and im not sad about it

[clever root]

I mean, it’s not a good weapon, so I think they should give it a silencer to help it rise the tier list

[ocean spindle]

yeah thats kinda the only reason i took it, but its not a necessity on most levels either

[past mesa]

then explain how i can silent shoot a charger scout in mom room

[ocean spindle]

or maybe just, improve it in other ways ksmdkm

it has 12 in mag before a nerf, so that would b nice

[soft crater]

eh

[past mesa]

for speeds this is the only reason we bring the gun

[ocean spindle]

um idk hacks maybe

[clever root]

:3 make it louder

[past mesa]

we need to kill scouts

[ocean spindle]

100 meters sound range :3

[past mesa]

and we just dont have the time to go get them

[soft crater]

ye

[clever root]

They really need a joke weapon for shits and giggles

[past mesa]

mostly when we cant afford to bring sniper

[soft crater]

Precision rifles ability to kill distant enemies regardless of the darkness is it's niche strength imo

[past mesa]

and choke mod wont do

[clever root]

A special weapon that shoots the “bang” flag

[past mesa]

tbh it is nice but we have line ups for pings with sniper

and all sleepers

[soft crater]

when it becomes a race to who can Melee the scout first

[ocean spindle]

i guess the thermal is nice for that but tbh only levels with a certain type of enemy i wuld pick it up for

and even then i have pdw so

i could pick somethin else

[clever root]

Spear is in dead last

[ocean spindle]

spears not in the race is asleep behind

[soft crater]

if you find an experienced vet who actually takes spear

[past mesa]

are macros allowed

cause if it is

then spear isnt last

knife would probs be

[clever root]

What is a macro

[past mesa]

the computer hits buttons for you

[ocean spindle]

a very smol thing

ah thats micro

[soft crater]

like if I wanna skipp all the scenes with specific button presses

I can have the macro press all of it for me

depending on the media. it can be almost instantaneous

hm

[sterile citrus]

||Speakin of scouts on R2D2 Room 195 A/B (Scan 6 code verify) What's the best way to approach that after you ernter from the left? Any alert seems to be gg.||

[mossy aurora]

the answer depends on enemy spawns, there is no real approach other than to clear the enemies safely

and alerting those scouts is not a gg, its not too difficult to hold the scout waves as they all just funnel in from one direction

[sterile citrus]

Ah so those extra spawns always come from the same funnel noted. Then everything in the room alerts. I see. Thanks

[junior notch]

The strat my team always used if we scuffed it was to bully our way up to the terminals from the right and turtle in the cubby there, makes for a really nice funnel and keeps you from getting surrounded

[bitter zodiac]

hey all, question for the guys who know what theyre doing: whats the best weapon to deal with scouts efficiently? I see some people talk about the hel gun, Id like to know how it stacks up against the sniper for killing those stupid spaghetti headed pricks

[solemn nacelle]

does precision rifle 1 tap scouts?

[mossy aurora]

yes

[mossy aurora]

there isn't really a best weapon for scouts. sniper, hel rifle, precision rifle, and choke mod can all headshot kill them from range. high caliber pistol and sawed off can also headshot them but they have damage fall off so you don't have as much range. revolver and hel gun must shoot the head from behind the scout in order to 1 shot them

burst cannon can has the luxury of not needing to headshot

[bitter zodiac]

I see

[mossy aurora]

there are a few other weapons that can kill them as well but for your purposes i think its best to stick to those

also meleeing them works just as well in most situations

[bitter zodiac]

sniper has been working well so far, but the scouts have kinda been screwing us by preventing us from fully clearing the room, Ive found the precision rifle isnt horrible but it does take a few shots to put them down, more than Id like for a high caliber rifle but oh well I guess

[mossy aurora]

precision rifle should 1 shot headshot scouts

[bitter zodiac]

even from the front?

[mossy aurora]

yes

[bitter zodiac]

damn Im just bad then, okay

well that changes a lot of things

[mossy aurora]

if you want to check if they do, the way damage works is (gun base damage)(precision multiplier)(enemy weak point multiplier)
so for precision rifle its (14.82)(1.3)(3) = 57.8

scouts have 42 hp

[bitter zodiac]

Oh wow okay, thats actually super helpful

I assume the wiki has all the proper numbers for weapon damage then

[mossy aurora]

maybe, not sure

most should be correct though

[bitter zodiac]

thanks Ryk, youre a godsend :)

[rare helm]

This! Thanks Ryk! ❤️

[mossy aurora]

dont use cheats anymore 🙏

[bitter zodiac]

lmfaooo

[fierce nebula]

guys I told you

the infinite resources is a bug

his friend would never lie

he sweared on his dad

[bitter zodiac]

on his mother even

[jaunty bear]

GREETINGS

FRIENDS

@bitter zodiac WELCOME

TO PAIN

[bitter zodiac]

im into it, lay it on me

[wintry kayak]

there’s a spreadsheet with all the weapon and enemy stats on it, It’s probably pinned SOMEWHERE in this server but if you want it just shoot me a dm. It might not be on the server because it’s partially datamined

[hidden ridge]

#wiki-chat message

[rugged lodge]

R5 has so many levels for booster farming lol

[waxen jetty]

theres just no way ur a real person

[craggy pier]

you know the opportunity cost of farming boosters is the time that one can spend on improving your gameplay

[rugged lodge]

practice speedrunning while farm some boosters?

[weak root]

just dont use supply efficency boosters on r2c1 or r3b2 and you wont have to farm for em

save em for levels you need

but not so much that you literally won't ever use em unless its an E level

[icy cave]

There is no levels where you need them

[weak root]

true

[trail compass]

hey guys is the drop from r1a1 shorter/different form the drop of r1d1

[minor fractal]

No, lol.

[trail compass]

so they take the same time?

[strange ocean]

take it as a loading screen

it loads the level when you just see the fall

[minor fractal]

R1D1 will take longer on average due to level size.

[trail compass]

maaaaan

[minor fractal]

^

[trail compass]

i wanted the fall to be longer

[strange ocean]

well technically it is

due to the level size lmao

[trail compass]

so it is?

les goooooo

[minor fractal]

You also fall faster the better your PC is.

[strange ocean]

^

[trail compass]

me omw to get a shitty pc

[minor fractal]

Lesser known quirk of the gravitational force.

[ocean spindle]

d1 is prob the level that loads the longest

[topaz anvil]

You fall irl as fast as your frame rate

[craggy pier]

can one still hammer a scout with -5% melee dmg

[jagged shore]

Yes

See here #gtfo-related-questions message

[craggy pier]

big tanks

[next socket]

Lol really

Is that why the lift feels like it stops super quickly when it reaches the bottom

'cuz on my game it feels like the sudden stop would crush your pelvic bones to dust

[soft crater]

Me who doesn't take damage because I run the game at less frames than my friend running 120 frames

pog

[hearty aspen]

do y'all think damage resist is better than regen cap?

[past mesa]

Just don’t get hit

[hearty aspen]

yeah,no shit sherlock,next please

[past mesa]

Booster player big L

[civic wave]

I'd rather take regen cap

[jagged shore]

generally same

[civic wave]

dont want to use brain power to remember the new damage numbers

[past mesa]

Honestly guys it depends on much you get hit tbh if you are gonna hit 20 always you should take cap

[lost flame]

Dodge the damage

[past mesa]

But there is no tank class in this game

Just dodge

[hearty aspen]

yeah, i think regen cap is better,but in some map with lot of toxic fog and you think you might not be able to avoid infection all the time,resist might save you better

[civic wave]

overall I do agree that boosters LLLLLLLL

[past mesa]

Detox is better than both

[lost flame]

dmg resist is good if you're constantly under attack

[past mesa]

A provisions is best

[lost flame]

or under long periods of danger

like a error alarm level

[civic wave]

if there's infection there's normally disinfect

or a turbine

and you can recoup your health

and yes provisions is definitely the most busted booster

[lost flame]

but if you're able to take breaks between combat, regen cap si better

[past mesa]

tank infection be based

[civic wave]

yeeeee, there comes a point where it doesn't really matter what infection you're at

[past mesa]

Tbh there is only really 4 crazy impactful boosters

Dmg increase, bio scan, increase provisions and detox

And for dmg increase to be worth anything you have to hit a break point

[hearty aspen]

provision is nice,but when it come with rev speed it double busted

[civic wave]

damage increase is boring, the devs want us to shoot more, not less

[past mesa]

Yeah all boosters are too good

[civic wave]

sniper sentry with enough cpu speed is quaint

[hearty aspen]

personally i feel tracker CPU is nice lol

espeically map with shit ton of shadow

[civic wave]

honestly I hope that if they don't remove boosters, they at least make it so boosters can't be alone in boxes/lockers

they have to be with a resource pack or consumable

[hearty aspen]

tagging everything everytime is nice

at least i can make sure my team know wth they shooting at instead of wasting ammo on wall

[past mesa]

I hope they nerf the math behind boosters

And get rid of these liner relationships

Add practical caps

[hearty aspen]

back when booster have some bruh condition

like "glow stick"

[jagged shore]

miss glowstick proximity

[hearty aspen]

and then the entire run you couldnt find a single one

[past mesa]

Na glow stick boosters played way better than they do now

[soft crater]

they can kill pablo

[hearty aspen]

no not glow stick booster

the one that you need glow stick to active lol

[past mesa]

Yeah

[hearty aspen]

i also still have those terminal use booster for the uplink levels

but never got to use it lol

[past mesa]

They were better than the booster system atm

[hearty aspen]

yeah, i mean if you cant active it then it doest affect you

since there no debuff

lol

you just playing bare as you already did

[next socket]

Ok so the sniper sentry has the biotracker simbiosis listed and not on the other sentries

[past mesa]

You actually had to do something to make them work and not just trivialize the level by putting a single buff

[past mesa]

It and shotty

[next socket]

I thought the symbiosis worked on all turrets?

[ocean spindle]

nope

burst n auto arent affected

[next socket]

Ah

Idk why I thought that then

[ocean spindle]

not like it matters really, one should take bio either way, if all it made u b more aware of the pings

[civic wave]

because you are SILLY

[past mesa]

Maybe cause they call it sentry symbiosis

And you thought those words

Meant things

Tbh I would appreciate a burst sentry nerf along with it getting symbiosis

[next socket]

No

[civic wave]

Want reasonable burst sentry? Balanced melee weapons? Dropbox and Google Drive got your back

[next socket]

It's cuz I'm a dumb fucking idiot

[ocean spindle]

lil silly

[next socket]

It's true

[jagged shore]

why you need those when you have steam console

[brave juniper]

What are the differences between the high cal pistol and the revolver they both say high damage medium range, is the high cal pistol just literally harder to control?

[jagged shore]

high cal basically a deagle
revo needs headshots to one-shot strikers, high cal doesn't
revo faster reload, high call harder recoil

[ocean spindle]

the high cal is more dmg, less range and more recoil
it can bodyshot strikers, and headshot shooters, while revo inly can oneshot if it headshots both shooter and strikers, it has more firerate and more ammo

well

idk if highcal is less range

i dont think so maybe im wrong

[jagged shore]

i think you're right

[ocean spindle]

yeah, ok one is 12 other 8

[brave juniper]

okay so just slightly different damage numbers and reload times as well as the obvious recoil diff

[jagged shore]

fire rate as well but reload is a big one too yeah

[ocean spindle]

not really a smol difference
revo is more made for like, takin care of smols, but also add some dmg to big ones
high cal is kinda more both

it cant tank a wave as well, but it can do more dmg to a big one

[jagged shore]

revo also gets more ammo per refill

[ocean spindle]

revos just more for headshottin lil guys

lil silly bois

[brave juniper]

yeah im trying to cook up a good special i like to use with the hel shotgun primary for soloing

i want something that has a fast ttk that i can easily change targets with whenever theyre not grouped up enough for my shotgun to be effective and i figured the pistols would be my best bet

but honestly maybe i jsut bring another shotgun lol

[upper ginkgo]

if you're trying to solo r1a1 then combat shotty or revolver is a good secondary for hel shotgun

[ocean spindle]

maybe hel gun, tho u dont like charge ups so it might b a lil funk

[jagged shore]

i'm partial to combat shotty

feels real comfy to me

[brave juniper]

alrighty ill give it give it a few more shots with the revolver then i think i just need to get warmed up to it, thank you

ive tried the combat shotty and it does feel pretty good although the reload time on in gives me grief but thats just a skill issue tbh

i just gotta kill stuff better

[modern mango]

How are like all GTFO updates so small even when the new added content is huge

[ocean spindle]

cause they r assets that are already in the game

tiles r reused

part of guns r reused

but they given a twist

like the double tab rifle, is the same front as the dmr, but way different in the other parts

i think its cool :]

[torpid marsh]

dose rd2 have checkpoints?

[civic wave]

As of right now, only Rundown 7 has checkpoints

[torpid marsh]

[civic wave]

ALT Rundown 6 will likely have checkpoints too but that's not out yet

nice embed failure

[torpid marsh]

keep your self safe

[civic wave]

that's keep yourself safe to you

it's all one word

[torpid marsh]

سوف يضربك الله

[civic wave]

sure, sure

[fresh steeple]

how can i make the tank like me in E1?

he seems to aggro on teammates through walls and ignore me completely often, not reacting to my hammer swings

[next socket]

In R5B1 do you have to do overload before secondary?

Looks like the second key is behind secondary

[civic wave]

Gain line of sight, get teammates to break line of sight, shooting a stray bullet can draw the attention towards you

[fresh steeple]

does shooting a bullet really work? I've tried that and it usually just seems to waste ammo

[civic wave]

if tank is facing away from you and you're the only one in LoS, yeah it'll turn to face you

[fresh steeple]

awesome 😁

[stuck elm]

Guy deadass do you take 2 C-Foams for R4D2 PE or nah?

[past mesa]

You can take 2 bios

All 2 foams does for you is give you an extra 60% to work with

[stuck elm]

I've seen the 2 bio strat in video, why would you want it?

[tranquil arch]

never much point running an additional foam or mines

[past mesa]

Shadows

[stuck elm]

ah

[past mesa]

Sometimes it is useful is you are in a tool drought but you need more than 7 mines

but tbh unless you are speeding

It isn’t ever useful

[stuck elm]

Does the shadow par really necessitate 2 bios b/c it's just an error at the end of the level?

[past mesa]

Na the fourth tool is useless

[stuck elm]

damn

[past mesa]

So bio is the best thing so you don’t drain tool

[next socket]

@past mesa
#gtfo-media message
How to do this?

[past mesa]

Give one sec

#gtfo-media message

@next socket

[next socket]

ty

[next socket]

So like.. how is that done?

[sturdy glen]

exactly how it looks

[next socket]

I can't swap my gun that quickly

[sturdy glen]

you have about half a second to do it

[past mesa]

Aim in and shoot

It is really easy

Trust

[bitter zodiac]

cant send photos here, but anyone know what the black spots on your screen are? they look like dead pixels but they are only existent inside of game and vanish in the pause menu. Went away after a minute or so, so its fine, but still weird

[ocean spindle]

probs liquid bug
happens sometimes where like a circle fills ur screen or somethin then it goes away after some time, its a render bug
ive heard spamming tab or usin disinfection works as a fix

[next socket]

Didn't work lol

L + skill issue

[past mesa]

Unfo

[next socket]

It didn't cost me a run or anything

The class 3 S cluster alarm did LMFAO

[sturdy glen]

I would just not bring revo to r5d1

was it your first attempt?

[past mesa]

Did you hit the back

[next socket]

Yes, it was that I couldn't swap fast enough

[past mesa]

Oh do you use numbers

Or scroll

[next socket]

number

[past mesa]

Good

[next socket]

yes

[sturdy glen]

damn

[past mesa]

Umm it should be free mostly

[sturdy glen]

made it pretty far then, nice

[past mesa]

Maybe takes about 1-3 attempts to get

but maybe the timing is tighter than I remember

[next socket]

I didn't know that level woulod be a charger circus

Revolver sucks for chargers

Unless they're in a line, ofc

[tardy ingot]

o.O? Revolver still isnt good against them even if they line up

[cold quarry]

think he means hel

[tardy ingot]

then im confused cuz its good :|

[neon gust]

Hel revo its literally the best for chargers 😭

[fierce nebula]

nah hel gun /s

[neon gust]

Main weapon

[weak root]

can modded users have any kind of boosters they want? i keep seeing 99% boosters and im just confused on how lucky people are getting

[keen seal]

there is a mod that makes the boosters values as high as they can be

[icy cave]

99% is not the highest boosters can be tho

[weak root]

guh.

[keen seal]

it does depend on the effect though

[icy cave]

ofc. but it can go higher

[keen seal]

yeah

[hidden ridge]

It's debatable whether or not I'd qualify that as a cheat tbh, if it's still in the realm of what's possible to get legit

I never check because I cant really prove it anyway

Perhaps someone's mad enough to do maps a fucktillion of times until they get good boosters

[weak root]

insta revives, one-shot spear, custom guns, ultra-jump, any boosters, movement speed+, guh.

and then they think the run was legit and act like it was impossible to beat it when they can just do stuff like that

it's irritating to play with those kind of people when they mods they're using are actual cheats and not just QoL

[dry pumice]

How much oneshot spear were talking

[icy cave]

Someones interest got peeked

[dry pumice]

"Fine, I'll do it myself".jpg

[empty harbor]

Hello. Where are you all players

[dry pumice]

In game matchmaking is used by no one, it's all about LFG.

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[pallid spire]

Who is Schaefers voice actor?

[topaz anvil]

Me

[weak root]

one tap hybrids and giants in the back of the head, basically 2.5x damage?

[dry pumice]

Like normal tap or fully charged tap?

But frankly too OP either way.

I could accept double tap, but straight up oneshoting hybrids is too much.

[tardy ingot]

well its pretty easily doable with boosters on spear (regarding the earlier comment of perfect boosters)

only need like 80% or so for normal giants and less than 70% for hybrids to 1 shot

[dry pumice]

Yeah, that's a lot of booster

I think highest I ever managed to pull is 60%

[tardy ingot]

yea thats why you use more than 1

[dry pumice]

With some conditions like above 50% HP

[tardy ingot]

above 50% or below 40% is common

poor people on 41-49%

[dry pumice]

Felt great though

I can solo giants already but doing so in like 2 hits was such a QoL improvement

Melee damage is overall very nice boosters to have, makes life lots easier, minus horde scans

[tardy ingot]

Nearly all boosters make life easier tho

[dry pumice]

Not regen speed

Utter trash

I have no idea how to utilise it l

Oh wow I regenerate to 20% HP in like... 5 seconds instead of 20

[tardy ingot]

either stack it with regen cap to gain some decent base health work around

or stack it and have a lot of leniency at 20% as long as you dont get insta double licked

[dry pumice]

Yeah exactly

[tardy ingot]

its not the best but if you stay at 20% its noticeable

[dry pumice]

Not happening

Tank mentality or something like that

+ammo boosters are also questionable. Having an extra mag or two is helpful sure, but not game changing in the least.
Hell, the only level where it would be game changing arbitrary nerfs those boosters so they have pretty much no effect.
... Or at least I think so, maybe my booster was just shit.

[tardy ingot]

your booster was just shit :|

tho they should probably combine main/special ammo boosters into one

[dry pumice]

Either that or liken double the effect

Oh wow a whole pistol mag, so useful

glowstick power

I should try stacking that sometime and just see how much difference will it make really

[dry geode]

does mastaba one shot scout?

[neon gust]

english

[tardy ingot]

german works aswell

[neon gust]

lmao

wich mastaba

revolver?

[dry pumice]

Mastaba is the special revolver?

Uh, it should. It certainly does from behind, but not sure about frontal attack.

[neon gust]

dont use weapon manufacturer names

[dry geode]

there is a eva in professor scaler video are u that?

[neon gust]

its cringe

[tardy ingot]

artek

[tardy ingot]

yes

[dry geode]

big fan of scaler and u guys 🌚

new to this game

[tardy ingot]

hope ya have fun then

[neon gust]

Run

[tardy ingot]

but yea what blackdragon said

Avoid using the wacky names. Stick with the generic name (only exception being the machine guns)

[dry geode]

yesterday we all died due to a bug 😔

[tardy ingot]

bug?

[neon gust]

wich one

[dry geode]

yea

r2 c1

there are 2 turbines

i had one turbine in my hand

game crashed

when i joined again

i cant drop the turbine

[neon gust]

cannot drop it right?

yeah

[dry geode]

also it spawned another turbine

if someone else picks it up

then i can drop that

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/823208299276271630/1118273378604822558/image.png

uff

cant i send img?

[neon gust]

liquid bug

[dry geode]

can u open this?

[neon gust]

i opened in my browser

[dry geode]

black spot is this bound to happen?

[neon gust]

its an old bug

[dry geode]

ou

[neon gust]

since original rundown 2

[dry geode]

in the same level i fell out of the map

[neon gust]

happens less on cap fps ( in my experience)

[dry geode]

same spot ffs

[neon gust]

probably someone didnt load properly

[dry geode]

ic

in r2 b3 or b4 i couldnt equip my mine deployer

[neon gust]

best thing to do its everyone verify game cache and fresh start of the game

[dry geode]

bug or bound to happen?

k

[neon gust]

damn you getting fucked by bugs lmao

[dry geode]

ye

[neon gust]

back to back

lmao

[dry geode]

i will verify

mostly i get feked

bad luck ig

will verify game

[dry geode]

so ican 1 shot with mastaba revolver on the back right?

[neon gust]

my man

revolver special

right

[dry geode]

yea

[neon gust]

to the back of the head

it can

[dry geode]

ou

tnx buddy

[neon gust]

back damage

x2 damage from the back of the enemy

[dry geode]

my spear friend fek up everytime

[neon gust]

it relative to your position of the enemy not the actual back

[dry geode]

thats why was lookin for another way

[neon gust]

good practice

tell him to aim high

[dry geode]

🌚

[neon gust]

not center of the head

[dry geode]

k

[neon gust]

like the tippy top

[dry geode]

ou k

also plz fix bugs gtfo devs 🥲 🌚

[neon gust]

never

wait for rundown 8

[mossy aurora]

The mastaba won't be able to kill the bullrusher scouts in 1 shot though

[dry geode]

normal scouts was askin 🙂

bull rusher didnt encounter yet

r2

new to this game 🙂

[topaz anvil]

Bullrush = charger

Please use the better term smh

[dry pumice]

blacks

[neon gust]

[regal inlet]

друг

[dry pumice]

So, what's the consensus on heavy smg? Crap?
What's the range on it? Like 5m probably?

Amazing aesthetic but performance felt off.

[minor fractal]

SMG, but 25 bullet

It's dogshit

[dry pumice]

Unfortunate. I heard PDW deals more damage even.

I just do not understand how things like that make it into the game. It's like no one pays attention.

[minor fractal]

It's just their automatic design.

[trail compass]

whens the sale

[tranquil arch]

Heavy SMG unfortunately couldn't redeem the SMG

[craggy pier]

so u would pick the smg over its heavy counterpart?

[minor fractal]

Uh, yeah.

Every time

[ocean spindle]

think heavy smg has a bit more dmg total, but a bit less by mag
both kill like two enemies

and

[craggy pier]

aight, thanks

[ocean spindle]

thats about all i can think of

[neon gust]

Regular Smg users stay winning 🙏

[arctic marten]

7m, and it has the same damage as pdw, just with lower mag size, slower fire rate, and less ammo

[neon gust]

25 bullet

[lunar rain]

I was playing r5a2 and the one terminal that was supposed to have the 5 logs was instead a debug console? I was just wondering if this is a normal occurrence?

[dry pumice]

Insanity... No one even took a quick look at a statsheet.

Well, hopefully it will get buffed next patch. Probably increase damage a bit. Make it HAR but main.

[hidden ridge]

HAR was main in R5, ironically

[minor fractal]

Make

it

a

special.

And then buff the other autos ffs.

[ocean spindle]

no

:3

[minor fractal]

What role you gonna give it that isn't taken by SMG, AR, MP, or Bullpup?

[ocean spindle]

well what role are u gonna give in specials, the heavy assault rifle one but slower? the arbalist one but faster?

[neon gust]

we dont have an smg in special

case close

[hidden ridge]

You could give HSMG a thermal so we get a thermal special that ain't the PR

[topaz anvil]

Heavy SMG 😎

[hidden ridge]

To be honest everything that comes into my mind would make another weapon redundant, special or main

[topaz anvil]

Lets have a special that destroys everything on screen with one click, including your pc

[neon gust]

put Heavy smg on special slot or riot in the chat!

devs on stream right now

this our chance!!

[winged turtle]

so if SMG got buffed and Specialed, you guys feel like it could find a different role than the two MGs and the HAR?

[topaz anvil]

no 😎

[neon gust]

something more cqc oriented other than the shotguns and hcp

[hidden ridge]

I'll be sincere with you I think there's nothing that could be done with it that wouldn't end up taking another weapon's spot a little

[neon gust]

also no charge up

[hidden ridge]

So... Carbine without burst fire but special?

[winged turtle]

Thats what i suspected, but also, you say a little, and that still makes it sound worth it. it could happen theoretically without full replacing another. So its worth a try then even if it doesn't work out, still better than the ALT

[hidden ridge]

I'd have liked for the devs to explore different ways to diversify weapons

[neon gust]

heavy smg on the special slot but it has a 1 shot underbarrel shotgun

do 40 damage

[hidden ridge]

Yes but only when BLACK_DRAGON uses it

[neon gust]

wheres the fun in that

[hidden ridge]

otherwise it blows up, mine dmg

[neon gust]

i want people to shot me with it

[minor fractal]

If HAR is a light Arbalist, HSMG can be a light Veruta.

HAR is also the only gun like itself.

[ocean spindle]

what if hsmg had half the mag of the normal one, more recoil but also more dmg
just a very hard to controll gun that u cant hipfire like pdw, but still very powerful
another sawed off but automatic

[hidden ridge]

"Those MAIN WEAPONS ARE STEALING OUR JOBS" said Veruta, incresingly hostile towards the HMSG, who recoiled due to the MG massive size

[minor fractal]

When are we getting the weapon balance ERP thread?

[minor fractal]

It's just competing for the same niche as AR and PDW.

[neon gust]

heavy smg on special
3.21
40/210pres 0.8
6M Falloff

bam

more bullet than har
light veruta

no charge up

[ocean spindle]

maybe a more close quartes automatic special yeah
somethin more inclined to just convertin to dust the closest thing to u

[minor fractal]

So, PDW?

Also, if you buff it up too much it just becomes OP.

Slower fire-rate, harder to control, big damage...

Is just what AR should be.

If AR weren't underpowered.

[ocean spindle]

then what do u think they could do with it

like, um, im not really havin more ideas

i am bad this is my first fps i put hours in

[minor fractal]

MOVE TO SPECIAL SLOT

[neon gust]

JUST MOVE IT

[minor fractal]

HAR to special slot

was insanely based

[winged turtle]

HSMG RESET

[minor fractal]

HSMG RESET

[neon gust]

HSMG RESET

[ocean spindle]

i like to imagine just movin it as is, no changed nerfs buffs, just goes to the other slot as bad as it is

no changes

just special

[neon gust]

heavy smg on special
3.21
40/210pres 0.8
6M Falloff

[tardy ingot]

HSMG to special, give it a slowish firerate (similar to R6 har) with decent dmg

its gonna be a small mag arbalist with more control behind it

[neon gust]

WE FIXED IT

JUST TAKE IT

[ocean spindle]

i like to imagine

i like to imagine

[regal inlet]

3.21 (3.31) damage
pres 0.87
~70 (60) rounds per refill
stagger 1
reload 2
falloff start 6 end 55
ammo 40/180 (40/160)
something like 12 (10) shots per second
almost zero recoil
😳

[minor fractal]

Veruta*

It can have recoil, just give it similar drawbacks as HAR.

A bit mediocre eco on kills and damage, but more on-demand than either MG.

[sturdy glen]

ngl id like a machine pistol esq weapon in specials, but that wouldnt really fit heavy smg

[fringe cloud]

would anyone be able to help with something? I have a series x controller and my movement seems to stutter but the game isnt lagging?

[past mesa]

?? Could you post a video

In media or something

[fringe cloud]

Uhhh, new to getting a pc. How do i do that?

[icy cave]

You pay money. you get a pc.

OR

you pay money, get a part, pay money , get a part etc etc then put all parts together

[past mesa]

They don’t mean that

[past mesa]

Just download recording software

[icy cave]

They aren't talking about Only Fans

[past mesa]

????

[dry pumice]

If they have an NVIDIA card - they can just do the integrated NVIDIA recording via the NVIDIA overlay

[past mesa]

Yeah probs the easiest

[dry pumice]

framerate wont be stable, but its quicker and easier

[slow dove]

For r5a2

Me and my friends are currently running this and we're trying to complete it all (secondary and overload) But we're struggling to find the bulkhead key to do Overload. We have already done secondary.

Is there a way to do all three? or do we only do one per run? (Main, overload. Or Main, Secondart.)

[arctic marten]

there is an extra bulkhead key in overload, which must be done first in order to do all three in one run

[strange ocean]

||The overload bulkhead door opens after picking up the main objective item|| R5A2 spoiler

[arctic marten]

wait am i thinking of the wrong level

[strange ocean]

you may have

[strange ocean]

after the secondary objective ||everything went dark right?||

[slow dove]

|| The item does a continuous alarm i believe, do we pick it up and then make our way to overload? or clear the run then see if overload opens || -Spoils to R5A2

[slow dove]

|| Yea ||

[arctic marten]

I am

[strange ocean]

||well then yeah the overload opens after you pick up the item so you'll have to do it on the alarm||

[worn pagoda]

fuuuun

[strange ocean]

||otherwise the emergency lockdown won't wear off the door||

[slow dove]

||Okay so, for Overload, Pick up item head to overload door? ||

[strange ocean]

yup

good luck :)

[slow dove]

thank you so much

[worn pagoda]

what happens after we go through the door?

[strange ocean]

pain.

[worn pagoda]

:-:

[past mesa]

You probs wipe

Gl go

[strange ocean]

^

[icy cave]

We'll know in a couple minutes

[worn pagoda]

ITS JUST PAIN

[slow dove]

update: || PAIN we got wiped ||

[strange ocean]

:))

[slow dove]

HOW DO WE EVEN DEAL WITH THAT?! XD

|| All we hear is the screech of a mother AND SO MANY BBYS, LIKE HOW do we even deal with that plus the waves of the alarm?! || R5A2 spoil question

[strange ocean]

Idk I just gave up on that overload after opening it xD

[civic wave]

||That is mother||
||She can only be damaged by shooting the blobs on her||
||She will spawn enemies when she gets line of sight on one of the players||
||Once she births she's defenseless, all she can do is skitter around in fog||

||Really you just clear babies/cfoam her (with 1 cfoam nade) and then kill her||

[light kestrel]

||hel shotgun. walk up stairs on left outside overload. babies hit the corner and get kinda stuck. hel shotgun wipes them in a sec. Charge mom with shotgun/combat shotgun/ burst cannon/ any other hard hitting gun||

[icy cave]

Couple of options. MG the babies, foam nade mommy. Foam the ground in front of the door, ez baby kill. Then foam nade mommy.

[civic wave]

oh come on, you don't need the hel shotgun for that, any weapon should do, a sentry will work fine too

[light kestrel]

true but they're new and that's an easy solution

[strange ocean]

||though a c-foam grenade sometimes can be found on the level if lucky, keep it for the mother and if you're full squad 2 can focus on the mother and the other 2 on the babies in the room if you want to try and do it quickly||

[slow dove]

|| What about the wave behind us from picking up obj ? ||

[light kestrel]

just shoot it or hammer them if you want to save ammo

[icy cave]

3-4 dudes every 40 sec..... bonk em

[past mesa]

They could have had a respawn room moment

[mossy aurora]

why this chat look like a classified document

[past mesa]

R5a2

[icy cave]

Could. In that case shoot the wave.

[mossy aurora]

🕵️

[strange ocean]

In conclusion

just kill them lmao

[past mesa]

True get good you got this

[icy cave]

That IS the solution most of the time yes

[worn pagoda]

reminds me of work

jk

[strong maple]

Are mobs supposed to keep constantly spawning after clearing the room scan in r5c2 overload?

[sturdy glen]

did you bring bioscan speed

[strong maple]

one time out of two tries but both times it happened

[sturdy glen]

pretty much, it spawns a set amount of enemies no matter what

if anyone on the team has bioscan speed and no one dies, the scan will finish before stuff stops spawning

[strong maple]

That's extremely unfortunate but good to know thanks.

[modest monolith]

i think they nerfed r5c2 overload a little bit. From what i remember, there used to be 2 tanks.

[craggy pier]

Do I need friends for this

[ocean spindle]

the game? yeah kinda
u can play with bots some missions [tho they r harder] or u could join random lobbies in the LFG, but usually if u do play in the LFG channnels u end up findin a group u vibe with and like playin with

[compact junco]

I been looking through the GTFO wiki and seeing that all the characters had so many voicelines that I have never heard. Like voicelines of them reacting to the logs about eachother or when they ping a resource item. Did these voicelines get removed, will they be readded? Or am I just the most unlucky mf to never hear them at all

[ocean spindle]

they got removed, theres been sayin about the devs sayin they pull em out cause they ruin the inmersion but also i never seen the source of that
but well if u want em back

theres mods for that :]

.t modding

[uneven gulch]

GTFO doesn't officially support mods and we don't allow them to be played in public lobbies or voice channels on this server, and lengthy discussions should also be avoided (mentioning them is perfectly fine). However, we do recognize that a GTFO modding community exist and if you are interested in them, you are welcome to join the independent modding community Discord server. https://discord.gg/rRMPtv4FAh (If you have any more questions, please read rule #12 in the rules channel for more information.)

[compact junco]

it would be nice to have them back, i like hearing the characters talk just because it adds more to them, like how in L4D2 there are like 5 different voicelines for every character for one moment, so u gotta play thru again and again to hear them. I like the character building 🙂
maybe it would be good to have an option like in settings to turn it on/off

if thats even possible to do

since they arent keen on mods that is

[cold quarry]

yeah more voice lines would be nice, the characters are well acted and it's a shame so much is cut

there should simply be a 'reduce chatter' tickbox like Killing Floor 2 has

[compact junco]

if they were gonna remove the voicelines they should remove all of them, but definitely keep the option to enable them

its fun hearing Dauda speak, Nigerian accents are so cool

[cold quarry]

I dont understand the "immersion" argument at all

Like how is it not immersive? You're playing as a character, they're gonna talk and react to things

Mute protags are always blah

[compact junco]

yeah for sure

i LOVED finding the logs on their backstory in R5

[cold quarry]

Exactly and they used to have reactions to hearing them

[compact junco]

i love lore, and building onto the story

[cold quarry]

Now they're just mute dickheads

[compact junco]

sad 😔

hopefully they bring voicelines back just as an option. ik they working on dif games now but it would be nice to polish this one with that addition, maybe some steam achievments

[cold quarry]

hopefully

[lone mortar]

Yea

But when new meme @cold quarry ?

I WANT MY MEMES

[lilac crypt]

yo whats a good weapon to combo hel shotgun for crowd control?

[upper ginkgo]

revolver

[past mesa]

mg

or just go full shotty spam with combat

[lilac crypt]

ight ill screw around with it

been awhile since i used mg

[weak root]

can a booster have supply efficency annnd med efficency at the same time?

[cold quarry]

not anymore

[weary mesa]

Not in current build

They persist if you had them when they were available

But if you see someone use them and their uses don't go down they using a "QOL" mod to keep them forever

[soft crater]

Unless || You play OG R4-R5 ||

[lone mortar]

Chad OG R4-5

[civic wave]

no boosters in r4, but optional objectives and hel revo

certified best gtfo version for those reasons

[weary mesa]

And burst cancel BC 20 damage

So easiest too

[civic wave]

burst cancelling doesn't magically make the game easy

I'd still call it harder than current version because weaker tools (although sniper sentry is rather quite good), more enemy spawns, and all that funny stuff

[weary mesa]

[junior notch]

So looking at the most recent GTFO statsheet that isn't the one I normally use and it has stats for sentries and saw that sniper sentry said Max Pierce 5. Does it actually pierce? I've never noticed that but then again I rarely used it outside of R2D2

[wintry kayak]

oops

busted

also give sniper 2 pierce in alt r6

it’s supposed to be overpowered in r6

according to whoever decided r6 sniper was allowed to carry 21 ammo

oh and get 6 per refill

[dry pumice]

No, sniper sentry does not pierce. Never did from what I remember.

Either that's a very ancient sheer or a troll one... Or maybe even modded.

[junior notch]

It's from the one posted in the wiki-chat channel on the 15th. Has a max pierce column under a misc. stats part for the sentries. Seemed out of place because I feel like I would remember if it did. We ran triple sniper on R2D2 and that should've been making hamburger meat out of the waves if so

Max Pierce
N/A
N/A
5
N/A

[minor fractal]

It doesn't function on sentries.

Scattergun had a similar thing in R6.

Pierce, but pierce was non-functioning on shotguns at the time.

[junior notch]

Interesting. Didn't know the weapons had attributes that could be toggled

[minor fractal]

Not quite a toggle afaik.

it's just bugged.

Also, iirc, Sniper Sentry and Scattergun have/had pierce set to true.

I think for most weapons 5 is the default value, but pierce is set to false.

Sniper Sentry:
"PiercingBullets": true,
"PiercingDamageCountLimit": 5,

Assault Rifle:
"PiercingBullets": false,
"PiercingDamageCountLimit": 5,

[junior notch]

Surely they don't INTEND for it to pierce. Sniper Sentry is already awesome

[minor fractal]

Probably not anymore, this was mostly a quirk from the original R4Ext patch (which added Sniper Sentry).

It may have been intended to pierce, either in testing or for the actual release, but it's since been balanced assuming that it doesn't and they just haven't reconsidered that setting on the tool.

[junior notch]

Makes sense

[minor fractal]

Same for Scattergun, I'd be very surprised if it got back in with pierce.

And actually they may have removed the setting in an R6 patch.

Set it to false, I mean.

[junior notch]

I appreciate the info!

[minor fractal]

Npnp.

[junior notch]

Actually, since you're here, any chance you can give me your opinion on Heavy SMG vs AR?

[minor fractal]

AR and PDW are just better than HSMG in most ways.

AR has a longer reload, but more range and a bigger mag.

PDW has a very fast reload cancel and a larger mag, plus thermal.

[junior notch]

I'm a PDW guy, my friend loves the HSMG though

[minor fractal]

It's not unplayable, it's just kind of meh on its own and compared to other options is well overshadowed.

[junior notch]

That's kinda what I thought looking at the numbers, didn't know if I was missing anything though

[minor fractal]

HSMG just lacks a clear identity, while being in a similar spot as every other automatic Main (of which PDW is really the only serviceable option).

[junior notch]

Could be worse I suppose. Could be the Bullpup

[minor fractal]

The only real reason to play most of them is if you enjoy the fire mode or weapon feel.

True.

[soft crater]

HSMG tries hard to be something but it ends up being mid-low

my main gripe is the mag size

[dry pumice]

Mine is damage

I love UMP45 and its futuristic cousins, but the thing needs to hit hard

[dry geode]

hello

does hel gun or hel rifle one shot giant

[ocean spindle]

nope

[dry geode]

only sniper does?

[ocean spindle]

the only oneshots for big ones are the sniper with a headshot, or the burst cannon if all bullets hit the big one on the back

and then r6 scattergun but that one is not in the game

yet

[dry geode]

ic

we stuck on r2 c2

best strat and loadout plz

[ocean spindle]

well u dont probs want too many big eliminatin weapons, usually a couple shotties or so work well cause they inflict dmg but can also be used for smols, in tools usually a mine deplyer for the blood doors, a bio and two sentries works pretty good
usually gettin used to melee kills is very useful, a knife a bat or a hammer are all good for it, and usually its just kinda knowin where to go and runnin there to do it

[dry geode]

tnx

[dry pumice]

Be quick, be efficient. Hammer the mini error waves to save ammo shoot the rest. Brutal firepower (like shotguns) will help with the final fuck you wave.

[dry geode]

i was thinking

i would pick the last id which is closest

then we could run on extraction fast efi

also mine one shot giants right @dry pumice ?

[dry pumice]

Nope

I don't remember how much damage they deal not notable less than one would think

Like 50 or something

Giants are 120

[strange ocean]

50 yea

[dry pumice]

So that's 3 mines or 2 mines and one high caliber shot

[fallow sonnet]

I’m very new to the game, found it awhile ago but got a pc finally and it’s the first game I got

Any advise on weapons to use? Or is it just playstyle based?

[past star]

Play style based pretty much. But on some levels you’re gonna want to take certain weapons to make your life easier

But technically any level can be beaten with any weapons/loadout

[fallow sonnet]

Gotcha, I figured that’s how it generally goes

[past star]

Hel revolver for primary is generally considered the best. For special, I like choke mod or combat shotgun, but there’s a lot of fun specials to use like machine gun and sniper

Choke mod is like a slug shotgun

[fallow sonnet]

I’ve been running the choke mod shotgun and some assault rifle that I forget now

Usually c-foam for the special and the bat as the melee

[dry pumice]

Choke Mod is a pretty basic bitch choice

High damage, tight spread, inappropriately high drop off range....

Literally the only downside is the mag size

[past star]

So was your mom but she didn’t mind

[dry pumice]

Personally I think something like carbine + HEL Rifle combination is probably the most all rounder setup you can bring

[fallow sonnet]

I’ve yet to try any HEL weapons

[winged turtle]

Hammer is the best, and everyone argues which melee is the niche usable 2nd best.
c-foam has the highest skill/knowledge ceiling of the tools. its not good on every level, but it is the most versatile. def worth learning.

[winged turtle]

^^

[winged turtle]

most of those are real good, definitely worth tryin out

[fallow sonnet]

I’ve found I run out of c-foam very often so it’s hard to figure out what doors need it and what choke points to hold

Definitely learning it

[winged turtle]

lol

and

[winged turtle]

lmao

[winged turtle]

so learning what doors they come through will be a big trick.
there are exceptions to every rule, but the rule to learn is the Two Room Rule.
enemies spawn 2 rooms away, and they tend to take the path of least resistance once they are just 1 room away.

[lunar rain]

9 blobs to seal a door, you can do around 75% to 80% charge and it should be good

[ocean spindle]

chokemod the basic choice? i would argue for high cal only cause people use it for lookin and soundin cool

[lunar rain]

I just use guns that sound good at this point

Heavy smg is like that

[fallow sonnet]

Big boom sound good

I feel like a suppressed weapon would be a fun addition

Maybe a bit busted