gtfo-related-questions

[raven sluice]

is everything ok with you?

[solemn flint]

but why do we need booster

[raven sluice]

for breaking the game

[solemn flint]

unless a level is stupidly hard, i never use booster

[solemn flint]

they dont break the game

[raven sluice]

i think yes

[solemn flint]

they just reduce the difficulty

and i think someone say it

[raven sluice]

if the difficulty suddenly isn't there anymore

[solemn flint]

booster power scale with how good you are

[raven sluice]

i don't think you need to be really good

or i am really good

[solemn flint]

so no, booster arent op

[raven sluice]

i think booster are op

especially if used correctly

[solemn flint]

u dont need to be really good, u just need to be good enough to maximize booster

no, they are not op

and they will never be

[raven sluice]

in my opinion they are

okies that is good for you

[solemn flint]

if booster are op why dont more than 50% people spam it

[raven sluice]

no idea but in my opinion they are still op

[solemn flint]

everyone is a little bit too much

[raven sluice]

just because of the stats

[solemn flint]

but in league of legends for example, everyone would spam 1 op champion until it get nerf

[latent obsidian]

boosters modify the difficulty more than they should

[raven sluice]

if you get double the amount out of a pack it is in my opinion op

[latent obsidian]

But they are optional so whatever

[raven sluice]

i love booster

it feels satisfying to see how scans get just rushed down

how sentrys kill anything

[waxen bane]

Boosters can be OP if you apply them correctly and they do take a lot of challenge off the expedition, but they don't win the game for you automatically. Like you can have supply booster in R7E1 but still die to queen+charger scout wake up at the end part. Or infection resist in R5E1 but still die to BBCs if you messed up where it matters. Supply boosters are only impactful in a few expeditions if not less, most maps gives you more than what you need already. And how booster system is laid out atm simply doesn't let you use them reliably due to how rng ridden it is to acquire them in the first place

[soft crater]

Imagine using boosters to be op

uses boosters to make my glowsticks a weapon of mass destruction to surpass Metal Gear

[sacred dew]

try Infection Resist 99%

Main Damage +5% on DMR

[solemn flint]

thats lifehack

[sacred dew]

literally +100% ammo eff on DMR with the main damage

and that's with a muted booster

booster can be very OP if you have the right one on the right level

why dont people spam it?

It's consumable and people have a tendency to not use consumables

[waxen bane]

13% on hel revolver be gaming

[tardy ingot]

its also not smth the levels are designed around

[sacred dew]

that double heahsot

[tardy ingot]

So most older players just kinda dont care

[sacred dew]

booster was a mistake lol

they do make the game sometimes more fun though

[vague bridge]

you wouldn't want to spend a high tier booster on a run you know you're going to die on

[sacred dew]

just make it like hades at this point

a pickupable

[civic wave]

boosters are indisputably broken

well, some of them are

[waxen bane]

If there's anything that needs to go before boosters it's checkpoints

[sacred dew]

I think checkpoints (as a concept) is fine for A and B level

[civic wave]

I like it when you get supply efficiency so there's no conceivable way you run out of ammo, like you could skip half the resources in a level and still be fine

[vague bridge]

why would you need to checkpoint an A level

[sacred dew]

I like it when I have supply eff and pick the most inefficient weapons

[waxen bane]

But you kinda don't want them in D or E tiers as well to respect the intrinsic difficulty. Easier to just not have them

[sacred dew]

lots of new players die in A and B levels

[sacred dew]

C D E tiers not having them is cool

[vague bridge]

exactly

[sacred dew]

but then again not having a checkpoint on a bloated level is meh~~~?

[waxen bane]

I still have some of those OP ones from R5 and hoard them like a relic of old history

[civic wave]

yeah, and by not using boosters you'll probably improve more

which means you can skill gap the game itself in any tier mission most the time

[sacred dew]

or up the difficulty more to compensate for the use of boosters

[civic wave]

upping difficulty just because boosters are a thing is a lame idea, but I can get behind increasing the difficulty for a different reason (giving people something harder to chew on/aspire to)

[sacred dew]

but i'd rather my punishment for messing up something in-game be like a bunch of enemies rather than me running out of ammo

Devs are pretty tired of people running around in circle hammering

[waxen bane]

That would require a rework of the booster system the Devs would never do that

[raven sluice]

well if you use chekpoints in a level
on your end screen you will also get a symbol

do the same wirh boosters
so you can flex more

[sacred dew]

my ego can only be booster so much with the endscreen

[civic wave]

to this day, there is nothing that stops you from hammering enemies until the end of time apart from how good you are at the game

same for long kiting really, you can still run away forever if you know what you're doing

[sacred dew]

long kiting requires map knowledge, running in circle hammering without stamina does not

[waxen bane]

Yea now we just need a stamina booster then we have a full circle🤡

[sacred dew]

also you can't "run" in circles forever

[civic wave]

yeah, you can't really brainlessly circle kite but then again you never had to in old versions of the game

it was a bit of a skill gap

[sacred dew]

Circle Kite in R3 in a small room with 20 sleepers is something I can literraly turn off half of my brain and do

stamina is the best thing devs have added in the game

But I think they shoulda made a proximity trigger on the stamina

that way when you split the 2-2 for the reactor, you don't get stamina cap outta nowhere

or when there's 1 enemy being alive

[waxen bane]

Stuck enemy 10 zones away and perma stamina drain🤡

[sacred dew]

it's half about the stamina, half about the music going off

I just turned off music for the game though

it got pretty annoying

Now i can't tell whether or not I've killed all the wave or some random striker is just gonna lick me from behind

[raven sluice]

i have a question about enemy behaviour

is it a bug that sometimes the last enemy just comes 10 seconds late of an alarm door

or is it on purpose
to be more carefull?

[sacred dew]

it's more like an unintended game behaviour cause some enemies will hesitate to run to you immediately

mfw i get kited by a random sleeper

[raven sluice]

well before rundown 2 alt

one enemy just got stuck on something and i needed to search for it

it happened a few times

and also is to much game ram used when fighting a mother or why does some corpses not disappear
but they are still in animation but still dead

[sacred dew]

I dont work for 10c so here is my 2cents of uneducated guess

enemies can spawn on boxes because those boxes are part of the spawnable area in the room

but enemies AI can only path to you through connected surface

top of a box is not connected to the ground so the AI gets confused hence the stuck enemy

they can't jump either so they can't even get out of there even if they wanted to

[sacred dew]

another uneducated guess, Mother spawns fog and fog takes up a lot of VRAM, it might be some unoptimized particle effect of the fog. R6 fog was much more expensive. Alt R4C2 does make my pc slow down 3 times and that level is huge with fog too.

[sacred dew]

while corpses being dead but not disappearing is not unique to baby striker but they are the easiest to kill in time of spawn. Again, I dont work for 10c, so this is another uneducated guess. When enemies like baby striker spawn, they need to initialize, and when they die, there need to be a death event being played through the death animation. being killed right at spawn seems to cause the problem. As they spawn, they play an idle animation but before they could completely initialize, they die. The animation controller in Unity just got added to the entity but the entity is already dead so it cant take damage/deal damage. The dead animation that is used to destroy the corpses can't be played because they can't take damage beyond 0 hp

[raven sluice]

not nice of you

[sacred dew]

Oh wait, I reread the your thing. It wasn't a question, I misunderstood it as a question.

very rude of me indeed

[latent obsidian]

Mushroom wasn't calling your guess uneducated but his own (I believe)

[sacred dew]

I do wish I could see the source code of the game but that's against the TOS i think

So yes, my guesses are uneducated

[lusty bramble]

Just looked at the source code, my ownership of the gtfo has been revoked (PERMABANNED) and have been told to "lawyer up" through a door to door solicitor posing as a Mormon missionary

[raven sluice]

does infection resist also count for syringes?

[ocean spindle]

i dont think so

[winged turtle]

i do think so

[soft crater]

Imagine not just

[winged turtle]

oh, don't like dairy, thank you though

also, bagged milk is that weird canada thing, we don't do that here in BurgerTown

[winged forge]

todays the day i buy GTFO. You guys got any tips for me?

[ocean spindle]

yehh
be sure to do the tutorial first [Training], start on rundown 1 and for vc ask to not be carried and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur vc

[past mesa]

Hold w and m1

Sometimes stop holding w

[winged forge]

and use m2 to push back the baddies 😂

[past mesa]

Your getting it

[past mesa]

But actually tho max out your fov

Turn dialogue down

[winged forge]

alright, well got 2 people that 1 havent played it yet and/or havent played in a while xD

[past mesa]

Turn max volume down

Cage drop is very loud

[winged forge]

alright, thanks for the tips xD

[past mesa]

Practical tips only

[winged forge]

and use only melee weapons xD

[past mesa]

The gameplay you will get down in 5-10 hours

[past mesa]

Not true anymore use it or lose it

[winged forge]

fair enough xD

welp thanks for the tips.

[winged turtle]

i should compile those

[ocean spindle]

... nah

[past mesa]

It is the best tips at the beginning don’t go death,don’t use default fov, and don’t waste your time

Best way to play is to just go

[winged forge]

oh, i see theres 4 different melee, what does each of them do? beside stab and smash xD

[winged turtle]

ok

[ocean spindle]

um

i wanna say just

try em all

but people are already writin

so u will get the answer soon

[civic wave]

Hammer does everything
Knife does quick kills on smalls
Bat is the disgraced child of knife and hammer
Spear you don't use

[past mesa]

Knife is fast but needs headshots, bat doesn’t do lots of dmg but has stagger. Hammer is all rounder with great dmg , spear is range and slow

[ocean spindle]

u dont know

[latent obsidian]

bat: kills locks and staggers enemies nice
Knife: kills small enemies but struggles on giants
Spear: long range for safety against giants but you can't run
hammer: does it all

[ocean spindle]

bat supremacy

[winged turtle]

hammer: does good
knife: does fast
bat: does fine
spear: does training wheels

[winged forge]

im gonna punish myself and use spear 😂

[past mesa]

It isn’t bad

[ocean spindle]

spears great for learnin slowly

[past mesa]

It is just slow

[solemn flint]

Knife is basiclly a wipe on small and a toy for big guy

[ocean spindle]

but once u know how to use it u can just

[solemn flint]

Hammer god

[ocean spindle]

use another one

[civic wave]

people will use spear and then get into knife range

[solemn flint]

Praise the hammer

[ocean spindle]

no

[solemn flint]

Yes

[civic wave]

it's not terrible but not being able to sprint while charging is bad

[solemn flint]

Praise the god of hammer

[latent obsidian]

people will use spear and then hit the enemy on the leg

[ocean spindle]

people will use spear and then use spear

[solemn flint]

Spear user be like

[winged forge]

alright, already checked the tools. thinking the scaner (one with dots) is best option for me

[solemn flint]

U get to hanmer range

U kill them

Then realise that hammer better

[ocean spindle]

nah

i like my bat

[past mesa]

Scanner is very good. Eventually good to learn to play without but it doesn’t really matter tbh

[solemn flint]

Expect for u slendo

U are the bat god

[ocean spindle]

yes

[solemn flint]

Send everything to hell with homerun

[past mesa]

Spear isn’t bad for slow stealth you get a few more double kill angles in very packed rooms. But in vanilla it never happens so not worth.

[solemn flint]

Remember 1 thing, time ur scanner so that u can shoot change ping change shoot

Funny thing, bio can help with reload cancel

Because u shoot, reload cancel, ping, swap shoot

[past mesa]

Peter

Stop it is way to much info

hasn’t even played the game

[ocean spindle]

they dont even know reload cancel

[winged forge]

so juggle your slots like a circus clown xD

[solemn flint]

Oh god

Did i trust do a too much spoil move

[solemn flint]

Ignore it

U see nothing

U dont know im here

[past mesa]

Lol

[solemn flint]

Im shadow

[past mesa]

It is fine to give but it is just way out there advice

[latent obsidian]

important thing is if you press q while moving away from terminal your command will still process /s

[winged forge]

well, the game is similar to some ive played. closest i see is alien isolation or stalker xD

[solemn flint]

Its a bit more extreme

[ocean spindle]

important fact if u like can pull off shooter bug and then u change weapons u unlock god mode /j

[winged forge]

ya with dark soul difficulty added 😂

[solemn flint]

I think there is a sequence for cheese

Make dev not waste time testing level

[past mesa]

Yeah it has elements but if I start talking about proper enemy processing and weapon uptime it is just not helpful

[ocean spindle]

well if u know it

dont say it

unless its in my dms

[past mesa]

you need to play the game

[solemn flint]

Just play the game and have some fun time

[winged forge]

ya, just need some experience xD.

thanks for the advice

[past mesa]

No worries good luck

[raven sluice]

aand luck with randoms

[ocean spindle]

they playin with friendos

[past mesa]

Na they have a friend good to play with bots for a bit

[raven sluice]

good cause matchmaking is meh
and it is so hard finding people in here

[ocean spindle]

is it

[raven sluice]

yeah atleast if you want fun

[ocean spindle]

i was like lurkin lfg last night cause i wanted to play a short level and i saw vc fillin up at the speed of light

i was like

'ah ill join in 5'

and then bam it was full and i was sad cause it was r3a3

[solemn flint]

Me when seeing bread lobby

Press join

Already full

And the lobby was post 10 second ago

Nice

[upper ginkgo]

mood, i just want my r4e1 clear

[raven sluice]

it is not for me
had some bad groups to have zero fun in gtfo so

[winged turtle]

ah, i have had a couple@of those, but when you find a fun one on lfg, whoo-buddy its a good time

[raven sluice]

that is true but it is hard

[ocean spindle]

im sorry u have bad experiences i guess that part of online games at some point
i had funky encounters too
even if u just motly play bots- my internet is fucking gone

my internet died

[raven sluice]

that is why i play only gtfo with bots anymore cause all of my freinds stopped playing cause it is to hard for them so

[sacred dew]

I usually play clown part of the group for funzies

[raven sluice]

that doesn´t sound like fun?

[sacred dew]

take a bat

[sacred dew]

I have fun, they have fun

[ocean spindle]

if the group is ok with it its like ok

[sacred dew]

It's a preference thing

[ocean spindle]

i play the bitch most games with my friends and thats ok

[sacred dew]

@upper ginkgo you better have something funny to say... there we go

[winged turtle]

hey! thats what i play irl!

[ocean spindle]

ey samee

same playstyle

we should not play together ah MKSMDK

[winged turtle]

not great in this meta, but its a fun time lol

boo hiss! i disssagree!

more fun people have more fun together!

[ocean spindle]

yes but two chaotic people means a black hole will create and we will die

[raven sluice]

i just don´t know if i should ask some people again

[winged turtle]

finding fun people is tough, hopefully you will have some better luck, you won't know until you try

[raven sluice]

the thing is that it doesn´t work like

hey want some new persons to try those new levels

because i played them 2 years ago

i had great people for R6 D1
we were three and it was fun

but like only for this one round

[winged turtle]

I can be rough, but if you want to hang on to cool people you pub with you can friend them on Discord, and like try to keep in touch. idk making friends is hard, but you simply won't if you don't try

[raven sluice]

hmm

[winged turtle]

i hope i ain't preachin, just tryin to help

[raven sluice]

you aren't peaching but i am not the greatest in making contact

and you are very helpful

[winged turtle]

it is hard! but keeping it on topic is a cery good way to reach out to people in a safe way, just try to schedule another game. "i am playing tonight, want to hop in?" "are you playing tonight? thinking about playing gtfo"

[raven sluice]

hmmm

[winged turtle]

just give it a thought, game is better with peeps than bots imo

[ocean spindle]

as a bot players i can confirm

[raven sluice]

shrugs
maybe

[winged turtle]

as a sentry, i can also confirm

[ocean spindle]

as a chair i can double confirm

[icy cave]

its completable even !

[winged turtle]

well best of luck with whatever you do mon frair moon fryer

[raven sluice]

will do nothing

[icy cave]

my language got raped 😭

[ocean spindle]

jesus christ

ok im going away now

[icy cave]

you need him yes

[ocean spindle]

after what u said i think u need it more

[winged turtle]

fixed it

[icy cave]

i stated a fact

you're over sensitive

[icy cave]

is it tho 🧐

[winged turtle]

also, its rapped** buts thats okay

as in the music

any french rappers you like?

[icy cave]

now I imagine you rapping that disgrace 😭

[raven sluice]

i wish you all a good evening or day

[icy cave]

not big on rap ngl

[latent obsidian]

cheers mate

[winged turtle]

you too man!

[raven sluice]

nah don't need to

[winged turtle]

ok

[raven sluice]

sowwy

[winged turtle]

no worries lol

[long harbor]

Hi question, if my friend joins us at a later level that they havnt unlocked, and we complete the mission, will it count for them?

[winged turtle]

yes

[long harbor]

ty ^^

[winged turtle]

np

[red flax]

Suppose there is a room with two scouts in it. If you have two teammates with snipers, if one of them snipes a scout, how much time is there before the second scout screams? Can you realistically snipe both at the same time

[past mesa]

It is ping dependent

if your friend shoots as client it is is is very possible to shoot both scouts one after another with enough ping

But if you need shoot both it should be very possible as longng as host shoots second

[ocean spindle]

if the scouts are sufficiently far away enough and u snipe it from afar or even another room, u could also technically kill one w/o the other hearin it
both are risky

but idk the level nor room nor situation so im just sayin funky shit

:3

[winged turtle]

but melee tho

[red flax]

Is there a general time before the other scout would scream if it were alerted?

[ocean spindle]

ik i wanted to say it

but then i thought

maybe they cant

[red flax]

Melee is great, but having a backup if the situation is ass

[past mesa]

It is almost instant

but ping is a thing

[red flax]

1 sniper cant snipe two?

[ocean spindle]

like 0.3 secs, like if u touched a tentacle but like half that or even less

[past mesa]

With enough ping yes

[ocean spindle]

nah unless again the other doesnt hear it

ah

nevermind

[dry pumice]

like half a second tops

[red flax]

Enough being high ping or low ping?

[ocean spindle]

im a fake gtfo player

[past mesa]

High ping very laggy

Low ping it is instant

You can also do the funny funny silent shot

But that be riski

[ocean spindle]

or u could do the funnier one mine two scouts

[past mesa]

Mines one shoot other

[past mesa]

If you drop the room shooting one scout is most likely enough

[ocean spindle]

i didnt got that like at all what do u mean

[past mesa]

You can time your shoot with a scout walking into mine

LOL

[ocean spindle]

ahh yeah fair
but it isnt

as funny

:]

[past mesa]

Well okay here me out mining scouts can also be a play to half pull rooms

So mines when they kill a sleeper have a alert range of 20 meters

In some big rooms you can mine in a scouts path then go two rooms away

To half pull the the room with no chance of aggro

[ocean spindle]

thats such an specific situation lmao

[winged turtle]

almost makes mines onR7C1 worth it

[past mesa]

R3d1 baby

[ocean spindle]

unless u wanna half pull a room killin a scout u wont use mines

so

feels funky

[ocean spindle]

funny u say that i always use mines

[winged turtle]

oh true

[past mesa]

unfortunate

[ocean spindle]

in the big scans they work nicely cause in both is big enemies

[past mesa]

So there is actually useful tech

[ocean spindle]

and in the funny funny glp i just
mine doors cause im useless

[past mesa]

Say you have a blood door with very scary sleepers behind it if you mine that door then go 2 rooms away as blood door opens there is zero chance the blood door pulls that room

Because of mines 20 meter alert range plus door reducing it by 20

[latent obsidian]

thats cool tech

[ocean spindle]

ohh that b true

[past mesa]

It also mean if you have a group of chargers right next to a door

[ocean spindle]

i played with cryo once and they just sniped the scout as the door opened was cool as fuck

[latent obsidian]

guess the problem is there aren't so many tiles where it is possible

[ocean spindle]

r2c1...
and others

[past mesa]

That you can’t clear you can mine them from the other room and kill the group silently

[past mesa]

Have you played when I shoot the scout in the middle of the room silently

pretty funny

[past mesa]

Yeah it is the problem it is useable in r4d2 secondary

Especially if you get a replay ability scout

[past mesa]

It also can be used if you leave the game after opening the door fast enough as client

Lol

[ocean spindle]

ah yes my fav strat pressin alt + f4 right after openin a blood door

[winged turtle]

modern stamina requires modern kiting

[sturdy glen]

just shoot your teammate who opens it so they dont count

[past mesa]

Oh shit

Wait that is so fucking massive

[sturdy glen]

a small price to pay

[latent obsidian]

I love that

[past mesa]

You can use a second mine

[sturdy glen]

A SECOND MINE

oh my god

[past mesa]

To off yourself

[winged turtle]

look what you did chill

[latent obsidian]

Could you not die on the one you use?

[ocean spindle]

i was thinkin the same

[past mesa]

they have a chance to scream

You have to off yourself before door opens

So you could use the deep blood door mine

That goes off right away

[winged turtle]

Mine deployers stay at 20 in my lobbies from now on

[past mesa]

Best gtfo strategy I have ever seen

Not playing for health only playing for scout scream

[sturdy glen]

whoevers at 20 gets to die an honorable death

🫡

[past mesa]

o7

[ocean spindle]

im gonna nom that table

[past mesa]

Gtfo is a coop stealth horror shooter

It is so hardcore

Player base offs self for probability of scream

[latent obsidian]

Work together or die together Kill your friends for optimal gameplay

[winged turtle]

sniping a scout through a blood door: risky
⚡👀⚡: guaranteed

[past mesa]

Time to make a modded map where this is required

[winged turtle]

i am sure it will be very readable

[past mesa]

Yup

I love the modded map that requires very specific tech that only 3 people use

[sturdy glen]

when do we get a blood apex door ngl

[past mesa]

Modded has blood bulkheaddoors

🙃

[sturdy glen]

like, the round ones?

[past mesa]

Disgusting

Yeah

[sturdy glen]

god

cursed

[ocean spindle]

that sounds so bad

[winged turtle]

lolololol

[past mesa]

It is

I love the modded rundowns that change how loud bullets are

I love alerting a scout 10 rooms away that is resawpning

[sturdy glen]

I still need to beat up goober for making gunshots have a 500m detection range

[winged turtle]

all bullets are the same volume right? so change one you change them all?

[past mesa]

You lose door in between yourself and scout Gg

Yup

Very readable

We have a scout error wave

The entire level

Btw if you want to stop the infinite pulling

You have to leave the scouts alive

[sturdy glen]

we need snatchers to pick up scouts and deposit them next to you

[past mesa]

Interesting I like it

[winged turtle]

snatcher scout when?

[soft crater]

Shadow charger scout that calls Snatcher wave

[solemn flint]

Shadow charger scout with so many tenticles that when u touch 1 of those it will grab u and trigger scout wave

[dry pumice]

How would that even play? Basically a scout you can't stealth?

[past mesa]

Tank scout

[soft crater]

I imagine you just get grabbed like a snatcher if you touched its tendrils

[dry pumice]

so an AoE slurp

[soft crater]

It would make running through scout tendrils for the kill a threat

But I doubt unmodded content would be able to pull it off

[winged turtle]

instead of picking you up, when you touch a tentacle it knocks you back 50 feet through walls and makes the public domain BOIOioing noise

[waxen bane]

Just want 1.) pTank 2.) Baby shooters 3.) Shadow shooters

[past mesa]

Hybrid shadows 😍😍

[winged turtle]

charger babies

[sage knot]

I'm all for that but also need a thermal scope on the sniper

[winged turtle]

[past mesa]

No

Shoot based off of feeling

[winged turtle]

use the force

||and the sniper flashlight||

[soft crater]

You are 8 days 2 late

[little dirge]

would be kind of funny to get a spitter that when hit by it force crouches you for like 5 sec "gl running away now"

[red flax]

||Do big shadows take more knockback than normal giants?|| (R2E1 spoilers)

[winged turtle]

about ||shadow giants || i don't think they take more stagger damage, but they have hybrid movement and stagger animations, so the stagger lasts longer i think

[steel valley]

they share animation sets with giant strikers, giant shooters and hybrids depending on posture iirc

so the hybrid ones will stagger much further

[craggy pier]

Are there other expeditions as long and foggy as R7B2?

[ocean spindle]

probably

i can think of one but theres prob more

[past mesa]

Nones as dense you have deal with as long

[craggy pier]

Thanks fellas

[sacred dew]

their attack animation has lower cooldown which is f'd up

[winged turtle]

[soft crater]

When shadow giants have shooter postures. In which don't have melee animations

[past mesa]

why is void bug fov related LOL

[urban obsidian]

Any idea why am I not getting any cosmetics for completing expeditions? I got them for R4A1 and R4A2 but nothing for R4D1 nor R4A3

[latent obsidian]

Have you completed all of the other rundowns? And did you play R4 on the day it released?

[urban obsidian]

I started playing when R7 released

and finished everything since then except R4

[hidden ridge]

People not getting rewards under bizzarre circumstance has been reported a lot lately. Maybe they borked it again?

The only istance of you not getting a reward for a main sector you haven't done before would have been if you completed everything from R6 to Alt R3 and played Alt R4 right when it was released, but this supposedly got fixed like a week ago.

At least that's what I understood.

[icy cave]

This is how it should be. But meaby they broke something with the backpack

[violet radish]

I saw that post, I thought it got fixed. apparently not, as I just got through r4b1 and no reward. I had to check my completion count for it, nope, it was a first clear.

[hidden ridge]

The "compensation" for the delayed fix of a glitch reintroduced said glitch

That would be amusing

[icy cave]

and sadly: not surprising

[deft snow]

hellooo

[hidden moat]

is scout have around 1 - 2s delay before it trigger horde when player touch it tentacle?

[lilac fulcrum]

Don't worry, I can see on the backend that you got drops for completing those levels.

[dry pumice]

Yes.

It goes red first, then after about 1 second of delay scouts reels them in and only then screams

[hidden moat]

ah, thanks. finally know why some of my friend just rushed in and blast their head without trigger it scream even when the tentacle touched them

[dry pumice]

Yeah. Hammer mains can do that.

Just sprint at the fucker and smack him - he has no time to react.

Literally bypassed.

[urban obsidian]

Wait so you’re saying it is possible that I got the drops without there being any notification or indication? Is that what you mean?

[lilac fulcrum]

Correct. And you did get the drops. I've confirmed that.

[gusty chasm]

Has anyone with an RX7900xtx and latest gpu drivers noticed a weird stuttering issue where every few seconds fps will drop down significantly?

[hidden ridge]

https://ptb.discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/1106678522392629299

Maybe your issues are related, I've no idea.

[gusty chasm]

I used to crash randomly on the older gpu driver. I'm using 23.4.3 now and having this stuttering issue.

disabled relive instant replay and seemed to fix it

[urban obsidian]

Good to know. I just gotta figure out a system to keep track of things I already own to figure out what I actually got after finishing an expedition lol. Thanks for the response

[late ferry]

what is the easiest way to practice kiting in gtfo?

[past star]

R7d2. Kill your whole team after opening tank zone

[elder onyx]

So I have a question. My friends and I are playing the game for our first time, we’ve gotten to R1C1 but can’t get past wave 6 of the reactor. I’m running the Drekker Precision Rifle, as it helps clear out enemies before they make it to the bridge, but I was wondering, what main weapon should I use? I’ve been running the Carbine, focusing mostly on popping heads and letting my friends finish the enemies off, but I need something that is good in closer ranges and doesn’t focus on headshots to get kills.

[hidden ridge]

Are you resisting on the bridge?

[elder onyx]

Yep. Turrets at the hole, we sit on the bridge and shot it

*shoot

[hidden ridge]

If you use PR, you can jump on the truck

gives you so much range you can actually see them as they spawn

[sacred dew]

Dmr

Or rifle

[elder onyx]

That’s where I sit, I was just about to mention the seeing on spawn thing

[hidden ridge]

Why exactly do you guys die? Get overrun? run out of resources?

Keep in mind btw that some guns really lose a lot of effectiviness at long ranges, so shooting with the carbine stuff that's rooms away ain't going to do much but waste ammo

[elder onyx]

We get to wave 4, the hybrids show up, we start to destabilize. Wave 5, there’s loads of enemies and we end up running low on HP, and we don’t have enough time to stabilize before wave 6 overwhelms us

[hidden ridge]

One of you brings a Sniper and drinks Red Bull so he pops the Giants or Hybrids head off

[elder onyx]

I use the carbine once I’m low on PR ammo and they’re in the hole

[elder onyx]

Red Bull?

[hidden ridge]

Also, keep in mind that you can delay the code input as much as it allows to gain extra time

[elder onyx]

I’m guessing a booster?

[sacred dew]

It gives you wings

[hidden ridge]

I mean, make him not miss

Sniper hs pops Hybrids.

They just get 1 shotted.

[elder onyx]

Yep, I’m the terminal guy, and we figured that out last run. It did help, but we still get overrun on 6

[hidden ridge]

For Sniper I mean Sniper, not Precision Rifle

[elder onyx]

So someone bring sniper, pop the hybrids, then focus the little guys

[hidden ridge]

Just have sniper guy on the truck

[sacred dew]

Hold up further

[hidden ridge]

as soon as hybrids spawn he starts popping their heads off

[sacred dew]

Bring hel weapon

[elder onyx]

The HEL rifle?

[sacred dew]

Yes

[ocean spindle]

hel weaponry is usually very strong

hel rifle is a bit slow but its 30 dmg so its like a forever range shotgun :]

hel gun is faster n has more ammo but a bit less dmg, but its still like super nice it can down a big guy with less than a mag i think

hel shottie is like bad on c1 cause it has no range and its spread is too wide

[hidden ridge]

Note: HEL weapons pierce through enemies

[ocean spindle]

and hel revo is nice has range n works nicely :3

[elder onyx]

Yeah, one of my friends is a die-hard HEL revolver user and I see why, it’s snappy as hell

[elder onyx]

Yep, I’ve been doing a tad bit of research. Only reason I haven’t been running the HEL gun or rifle is because I’m in love with the PR’s thermal and stats

[hidden ridge]

You have a full team or you guys are playing with a bot?

[elder onyx]

Full team

[sacred dew]

Hel rifle and Hel gun are basically the same on reg strikers unless you have good aim

[past mesa]

Ngl seems like you understand the level

@elder onyx are your sentries staggered

Or all stacked on one spot

[sacred dew]

Sniper sentries all the way

[ocean spindle]

i like my burst

[past mesa]

Take it to the fucking sentry discussion

[sacred dew]

I’ve seen the power of the shotgun and the auto

I’m now a believer of both

[past mesa]

Shotgun is a tad crazy

[ocean spindle]

auto for a reactor?

[upper ginkgo]

nah keep the usage rate low so it gets another buff

we will achieve shotgun sentry power creep

[past mesa]

I won’t be using shotgu sentry Until it can kill a tank in 3 shots

[hidden ridge]

For a second I read "Shogun sentry" instead

[sacred dew]

Shotgun sentry can kill chargers faster than burst

Also good for staggering + kill

It’s like the dream auto sentry

Take it the surge and done

[elder onyx]

We’ve got a burst (mine, I prefer running bio tracker but for C1 the burst turret is insane), 2 shotguns, and an auto. Mine is generally at the security door before the chokepoint, Auto is cross-firing the hole, and the 2 shotguns cut them down when they come through.

[sacred dew]

Take a bio cut a shotgun

[ocean spindle]

u can probably not use the auto, its mostly for staggerin and not for killin enemies, and thats not really what u want in a reactor

[sacred dew]

Literally the same amount of ammo and same dos still

Dps

[elder onyx]

Cut the auto or a shotgun?

[ocean spindle]

i vote the auto

[sacred dew]

Bio makes shotgun sentry shoot twice as fast and consume 0.5 bullet per shot

[past mesa]

So the thing is auto just don’t use it

[ocean spindle]

burst will make more dmg to an enemy on a single burst than a couple of seconds on the auto, and with range it can just clear lots of enemies :]

[elder onyx]

Oh holy shit

[past mesa]

Also

Don’t stack sentries

[elder onyx]

So cut the auto, someone uses tracker, massive efficiency boost

[past mesa]

You probably don’t even need them for the first 2 waves

And having them for later ones is better

[sacred dew]

Auto sentry needs a bio buff that makes it shoot hel bullets

[ocean spindle]

whut

??????

[elder onyx]

Ok, so here’s what I’ve heard so far:
1: Someone runs sniper or HEL rifle, pops the giants on 3 and Hybrids on 4.
2: Cut the auto, get a tracker.

[past mesa]

And space out turret useage

[ocean spindle]

yeah thats
pretty useful :D

[elder onyx]

3: Don’t stack sentries, stagger them so enemies are constantly under turret fire.

[past mesa]

One burst does wonders

[civic wave]

what they all said

the mission is pretty much a resource management simulator

[ocean spindle]

what we said

[past mesa]

Carry big packs from spawn

[elder onyx]

Probably going to try it again later today, I’ll let y’all know how it goes!

[past mesa]

Gl gl bro

[sacred dew]

More coverage and sentries don’t shoot the same target resulting in wasted bullets

[sacred dew]

Hold on the middle and not the bridge lol

[quick carbon]

salut ya til un serveur fr sur gtfo

[icy cave]

Oui

[icy cave]

dans tes DM's

[craggy pier]

What's the point of having more than one turret?

Isn't the best comp a scanner, sniper turret, foam, and then a mine launcher?

[soft crater]

That's the typical 1 of everything

But not always the best tool line up for specific expeditions

As some levels. Mines/Cfoam are not nearly as useful as an additional sentry would be

Then again Cfoam is useful in many situations depending how you use it

The difference between a basic Foamer and a Experienced Foamer are far and wide

[sacred dew]

foam needs mine and mine needs door, if a level doesnt have a door then these 2 are no use. Or less useful i should say

[craggy pier]

Yeah i got some first hand with that

R1B1 is a fucking nightmare getting through the level 2 alarm with that

Doesnt help that my entire team FUCKING DIED in an explosion somehow

[soft crater]

Foam doesn't need mines lol

[soft crater]

When the only "explosion" that exists is the mine deployer

Outside of that would potentially be hacker

[winged turtle]

maybe a disposable one

[soft crater]

Even then. Either it was a newbie placement or someone trolled with the mine placement

Those mines will always 1 shot players

And are also Laser trip Shaped charges

They damage along the laser.

Some people treat them like Proximity Mines early on

[craggy pier]

I dont know how it happened

I placed them along the bridge (completely forgot that I had to LEAVE the bridge to do the security scans) and I don't even think an enemy went onto the bridge

So I have no idea what happened

[turbid horizon]

What if mine damage down booster

Wait nvm those dont exist xd

[craggy pier]

why would those exist?

[soft crater]

[turbid horizon]

To not one shot teammates

[winged turtle]

that would be a really neat downside for a booster that expands mine range

[turbid horizon]

Bam

[craggy pier]

Actually yeah

[turbid horizon]

Or just a downside period

[soft crater]

increased mine capacity

[craggy pier]

But aren't boosters supposed to be completely positive?

[soft crater]

no

[winged turtle]

nah

[turbid horizon]

Imagine a booster tier beyond aggressive that’s just downsides

[winged turtle]

[soft crater]

bold/aggressive boosters have great benefits at the cost of some negatives

[turbid horizon]

Stam down, damage down, terminal speed down

:)

[soft crater]

even then they could have requirements for the benefits to even work. like have a teammate in proximity of you or you have to be above 50% hp

the shittiest one is enemies having to be 20m away from you

[turbid horizon]

Yeah remember when some had <40 ?

[winged turtle]

bioscan speed down should be used more

[soft crater]

r4/r5 type shit

[soft crater]

I typically only see those on aggressives

[turbid horizon]

eh, I think scan speed and infect resist are the two I really dislike

Because they can super hard break a level

[soft crater]

TAKE INFECTION RES DOWN. I DARE YA

[turbid horizon]

even provisions is only broken up to a point

[turbid horizon]

Ok

[soft crater]

Or EVEN WORST

HACKING DOWN

[turbid horizon]

Bioscan can completely negate hard parts of a scan sequence, especially with T scans

[soft crater]

Last hack is a single tick

[turbid horizon]

All hacks are a single tick

I think i got it to 2 1 1 once

[winged turtle]

absolutely, and thats why bioscan speed down downsides are so cool!

[soft crater]

The funny thing about this. I hit that single tick more often than I hit the 3 ticks

[turbid horizon]

Well no

The tscan wouldn’t go anywhere else

It’d just sit there

[soft crater]

iirc someone stated too much hacking up breaks them as well

[winged turtle]

unless it goes into the wall

[turbid horizon]

idk i think messing with scan speed can really change a level

Look at R4E1

[winged turtle]

yaa agreed, it changes it too much, but i get a chuckle out it

[turbid horizon]

Messing with bioscan speed on those 100 second scans can change the pacing

[turbid horizon]

True

YeH infect resist I have a love hate relationship with

I like it bc I troll with it

I don’t like it bc I know some people use it to cheese levels

It’s the only booster that can be used to completely negate a game mechanic

[winged turtle]

them: "why is there a giant flyer spawning in when the extraction scan is at 95%? why would he do that?"
me: "OH. uh, whoops."

[winged turtle]

and ya, it negates a an entire mechanic, but also, that mechanic is stinky

[turbid horizon]

D:

i like infection ;-;

I think the only place where I was interested in it’s use was R6C3 bc of the hard time limit the infection puts on u

[winged turtle]

mechanics that slow new players down to a grinding halt give me a trauma response

[turbid horizon]

that’s just GTFO in general imo

[winged turtle]

ehh its degrees of severity

[turbid horizon]

I think it’s fine when used right

R6 did infection really well

[winged turtle]

and this, is great

when its used to say, no really hurry tf up

thats fantastic

[turbid horizon]

R7B3 I think it could’ve been a little lower so the charger pipe wasn’t infected

R7C2 was kind of a nasty surprise if you weren’t ready for learning to fog dive and do that Class VI on 100% infect

[winged turtle]

i like that change a lot, it means the turbine isn't necessary for that 30 ft walk

[winged turtle]

although thats ovl, i think it gets a pass since its optional

[turbid horizon]

i mean yes but like

i consider the level as a whole

Was there fog in R6D2

[dry pumice]

yes

[turbid horizon]

Yes there was nvm

[winged turtle]

true, the map doesn't set you up for that flyer alarm

[turbid horizon]

OOH that spitter zone was 👌

[turbid horizon]

It’s like all of a sudden “boom flyers + shockers” in a charger spitter zone

Makes like no sense, especially bc the gen cluster isn’t even powered to provide matter wave instability at that point

[velvet garnet]

all i want is a error alarm with mothers

like R4 E1 but nott ank

[turbid horizon]

uhhh Samdown has one

.t modding

[uneven gulch]

GTFO doesn't officially support mods and we don't allow them to be played in public lobbies or voice channels on this server, and lengthy discussions should also be avoided (mentioning them is perfectly fine). However, we do recognize that a GTFO modding community exist and if you are interested in them, you are welcome to join the independent modding community Discord server. https://discord.gg/rRMPtv4FAh (If you have any more questions, please read rule #12 in the rules channel for more information.)

[weary mesa]

I gonna tell ya that's a far easier error than tank

[turbid horizon]

Depends, mom has more room to fuck up

[winged turtle]

ya recovery when things go wrong with a mother seems much harder

[turbid horizon]

yeah, my team always took tanks on D2 cell split bc we knew they’d be harder but more consistent

[velvet garnet]

hardest to recover is when u fuck up a 6 charger scout room

[turbid horizon]

Nah that’s fine

Don’t have to recover if you end the level

[weary mesa]

I'd rather see an error with an assortment of enemies

[turbid horizon]

Oh R7D2? Nah that one is fine

We fucked that up like 50% of the time, never wiped to that room

[mossy aurora]

Mixed shadows in errors are pretty cool

[winged turtle]

ya that 5 charger scout room recovery is pretty manageable

[velvet garnet]

for R8 we gonna see shadow Snatchers

[winged turtle]

many bullet

[turbid horizon]

The R6D2 6 charger scout room is scary bc if i remember correctly it spawns chargers

[velvet garnet]

the type of the scout , thast wave it spawn

shadow scout spawn shadow waves

[turbid horizon]

No

[floral acorn]

foam the close spitters, lay foam ground trap, wait. trivial.

[turbid horizon]

It depends on the level

The level itself dictates scout waves

[floral acorn]

dark moms were tricky tho

[winged turtle]

definitely going to introduce the [adjective] [adjective] [adjective] [adjective] [noun] in R8

[turbid horizon]

That’s why R7D2 spawns strikers shooters and chargers

It seems like the scouts on back rooms spawn different enemies bc they wake up the room of those enemies

[civic wave]

I know R4E1 scout waves are shadows, R5D1 waves are chargers, and R5E1 are bigs

I can't remember seeing chargers spawn from scout waves in r7d2

[turbid horizon]

They don’t, I was referring to R6D2

[civic wave]

ah

I can hardly remember r6 so yeah

[turbid horizon]

That is a pretty big newbie misconception tho

The whole scouts spawning their own types

[pseudo beacon]

Are there any weapon tier lists made by the community I can look at? Something that explains each weapon and its uses. Same with the equipment. I want to know what works best for what and what are the strengths/weaknesses for each weapon.

[icy cave]

you remember correct

[upper ginkgo]

https://www.reddit.com/r/GTFO/comments/11qm3p9/ranking_the_main_and_special_weapons_in_gtfo/

Slightly outdated since it doesn't account for alt R4 weapon rebalance
Burst Cannon is probably B/C tier now and Heavy Assault Rifle should be around A

[ocean spindle]

i dont think a tier list is like good for this game

[upper ginkgo]

well tbf i think the tier list was made for fun, but regardless, there is still a meta in the game
whether you choose to follow it or not is up to you

[winged turtle]

and asking gamers to not game the system is, uh, a fool's errand

[pseudo beacon]

Got it. Thanks.

[craggy pier]

is carbine still S tier?

[winged turtle]

yee

[craggy pier]

yipee

i normally run pdw but bio scanner

bio scanner basically obsoletes the thermal scope

[winged turtle]

pdw still pretty good

[craggy pier]

yeah

the dps is probably better than the carbine

feels like it

[red flax]

When should I start using aggressive boosters? I'm about half full in my supply and have only really used them when I'm struggling on a mission.

[winged turtle]

then you are using them at a good rate

[craggy pier]

I think that's the correct mindset to have

save supply efficiency for missions where u struggle with collecting ammo/tool or not enough ammo/tool

that's about it any other effect isn't super game changing

u could say infection boosters r special too save those for missions with tons of infection fog

[red flax]

R2E1. Is the precision rifle any good? Is the precision rifle viable in any level before R2E1?

I've heard it's just straight up bad

[ocean spindle]

it is pretty much straight funk

[minor fractal]

It's viable everywhere. Particularly good? Eh.

Basically always better to play Revo.

[muted shadow]

How did the devs make the sounds for the chargers, their screams, tank sounds, birther noises, bascically any special enemy other the basic strikers (I think they were done by screaming while gargleing water?)

other question is how did you animate the movement of enemys, such as strikers crawling and chargers hybrids and other things? was a person acting it out with body capture stuff?

ah, I just have these burning questions.

[ocean spindle]

the second is body capture u can see some demos on the 10c channel :D

and the noises were like by doin funky sounds and like distort em

[neon gust]

literally answer your own question

and motion capture

[muted shadow]

i dont see how someone gargleing water and screaming can make a angry charger noise or a tank noise. I guess audio distortion makes sense.

[neon gust]

Tank was an ellephant stock sound

[lavish garnet]

What does it mean to do prisoner efficiency?

[ocean spindle]

yeh so u know u have main objective, secondary objective and tertiary [overload] objective

if u complete the three in a single run

[lavish garnet]

What does THAT mean

[ocean spindle]

um

skdmk

[lavish garnet]

I didn't know there is secondary objectives

Wheat never talking about those

[ocean spindle]

so basically u have a main objective every level yeah, but in some levels u can also do a secondary and tertiary objectves that usually make the level harder

for example main objective is goin for an HSU, but there could b a secondary objective of grabbin some IDs

and then a third objective thats just puttin a command into a terminal

if u do all three in a single run, u get prisoner efficiency

[cold quarry]

They often have negative (or rarely, positive) affects on your main goal

[sturdy glen]

im curious, what were pre nerf scattergun stats

[past mesa]

Pen

[sturdy glen]

no way

that all?

[past mesa]

Something else but I forget

Dmg I think

[sturdy glen]

I was right

when in doubt just add pen

[mossy aurora]

Did scattergun actually have pen?

I thought that patch note "fix" was memed on because it never even had pen in the first place

[past mesa]

Oh well that was the case if fooled me

[mossy aurora]

Prenerf scattergun used to be able to 2 shot mom as client which meant it did at least 137 damage

I think the precision multi was unchanged

[sturdy glen]

thats a lil more believable

[mossy aurora]

Just searching through the server because the spreadsheets are gone and OG scattergun did 192 damage lmfao

[past mesa]

What

It is so disgusting

[sturdy glen]

LOL

holy fucking shit

[past mesa]

Just a tiny amount away from the mom one shot

[sturdy glen]

bring fucking

[neon gust]

I tought it was 210

[sturdy glen]

special damage booster

one shot that mf

[neon gust]

192 but no pen

Pen was still bugged back tben for shotguns

Previous version of the gun was a burst shotgun but got swap almost at the end of testing because of people burst canceling the gun

It did like 60ish damage before

[cold quarry]

GTFO needs a shotgun machinegun

like the Azbats from the Metro series

windup and then just BOOMBOOMBOOMBOOM

[neon gust]

🤓 actchuli cs its a machinegun since its fully automatic 🤓

[cold quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-abyss-falling-death-scream-gif-20558112

oh. damn. pain.

[vague bridge]

do the characters have modeled mouths

[craggy pier]

Probably not

[sacred dew]

qnever checked but i guess?

[ocean spindle]

i think they do but it probs just doesnt move at all

[buoyant quail]

This feels like a noob question even though I played since rundown 1, but I never played when secondary/overload objectives were initially a thing (I quit in r3 and came back in r6), but I often see people refer to the different objectives as "High" and "Extreme", but I'm not sure what either of those mean. Is "high" main objective and "extreme" secondary objective? And how come they are often referred to as those names?

[hidden ridge]

In OG R4 and R5, "Main" was called "High" and "Secondary" was called "Extreme". Overload and PE were always called Overload and PE. Game changed the name of those sectors with R6.

[ocean spindle]

yeah so High - Main
Extreme - Secondary
Overload - Tertiary
Main is called High cause the game calls them both like that, same with Extreme, the game calles it 'optional objective'

and the overload is just overload and no one calls it tertiary objective cause that sounds gross :3

[buoyant quail]

ouhh I see thank you c:

[dry pumice]

wait

It appears that artefact heat doesn't count between different rundowns.

I haven't played R1 in a decent time, but i got a mission with 84% like i played it couple of games ago.

Weird.

[icy cave]

why you look at R1. you still have some R4 left

[dry pumice]

I'm bored, i just want to shoot some monsters, maybe help some new players aclimate.

[icy cave]

alright alright take a break

[craggy pier]

in R4D1 main r u expected to stealth the final code room? like is it a good idea to just get in get out and kill as little as possible?

I mean obviously alerting 5 scouts would be certain death but like

[minor fractal]

W/e works, although you're probably not supposed to wake it up.

[craggy pier]

no need to clear the whole room right?

[minor fractal]

You can def survive 5 scouts, tho.

You can ignore parts of the room or clear the whole thing.

W/e works best for your group.

[icy cave]

`we pulled it everytime and lived

altho first 2 times accidently

[craggy pier]

I was trying with only 2 ppl and 2 bots and thats as far as we got, ran out of time to get the code

I assume it's not so bad with 4 ppl

[minor fractal]

Main difference w/ 4 is you have an extra body to send back for code.

[dry pumice]

Funny you say that. My final squad to beat that level triggered the final room.

[icy cave]

we place all sentries on the small door where you come from.

[minor fractal]

You can def clear it very quickly with 2, but you have to be on a good pace.

[dry pumice]

We just stood our ground for like a minute and grinded down the scouts' super wave on the ladder.

Simple answer: going in quietly is preferable, but you can recover from failing. That level got crazy amounts of ammo laying around.

[craggy pier]

right

resource management is tough with only 2 humans

[dry pumice]

True. Bots be oblivious to importance of exploration.

[sage knot]

you could stealth it if you prefer it that way, but subjectively speaking pulling it is far easier, place 2 sniper sentries facing the entrance to the 5 scout room, 1 sentry facing the small door where you came from, pull scout room and fall back to the room you did the alarm in, there's a high ground where you can funnel all enemies to a single direction. Alerting 5 scouts doesn't mean you'll get 150 enemies as there is a 30 spawn cap from scout waves. There's so much ammo in the main sector you could pull the scout room twice and still be fine. If you choose to stealth it you would also need to get the bulkhead key in stealth if you're doing extreme

[cold quarry]

yeah, when my group did it we set up our turrets as an alamo-style defence if things went wrong and I snuck in alone to get the code

[sage knot]

iirc there's also a decent amount of ammo/tool/meds in the 5 scout room, maybe like 4 use each? Even if you shoot the entire room you'll get a good amount of resources spent reimbursed

[past mesa]

I mean

Every time I have done it

[sage knot]

the long range 360 ping from bots are actually quite handy for reactor levels but they have much lower DPS compared to a real player esp at range so you'll want to take 3 sniper sentries to make up for the firepower. I'd say 2 players are the minimum for a decent reactor experience

[cold quarry]

my team beat it with 2 bots, with a bio and 2burst 1 shotty

depends where you hold

nvm it was 3 burst

[oak dragon]

What do you do about hackers?

[ocean spindle]

report em to @uneven gulch with all the details pls

[oak dragon]

Thank you

[sage knot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfED2ag_Ssg this might be a dumb question but anyone knows what settings did tnenpi used to negate the visuals of the fog during the tank error? Or was he just taking so long that the fog layer actually sunk below eye level?

[dapper nova]

I see I have Rundowns 1-4 unlocked, but the others are blanked out, and I have access to R7. do I have to finish all the previous rundowns to unlock 5 and 6, or just finish 4?

[low willow]

5 and 6 aren't in the game right now

the game used to only have one rundown at a time, but that changed. they're modifying the old rundowns and bringing them back while having them all here to stay

We got alt r4 a little less than 3 weeks ago, we're getting alt r5 next and then alt r6, but we don't know when.

[dapper nova]

ah ok

ty\

[past mesa]

It is probably a retry bug

Seems like the fog is just at a different level

If you look at 2nd scan in tank error and compared it to what it normally is

Idk if tank error has lowering fog @hardy grotto would probably.

[hardy grotto]

the fog lowers yes

[past mesa]

Over the course of the tank error that is cool

[hardy grotto]

yeah

I don’t think it’s particularly noticeable in this version tho lol

[past mesa]

Yeah I guess in the solo main it is tho or it was

[glad stone]

U really dont find people to play with (first mission) via random search huh ? just bought the game and well cant find player xD

[icy cave]

#lfg-beginners #how-to-matchmake

Ingame MM is dead because no one uses it

[glad stone]

i see kinda sad

[icy cave]

meh. lfg channels work the same.

[glad stone]

Nah since im with a friend in a call i cant join a call on discord rn haha

[icy cave]

Well in that case. shame.

[glad stone]

xD

[hidden ridge]

You also need the bulk key from that room if you're going to do Secondary

So I think you're supposed to fully clear it either stealth or loud unless you get really lucky and find the bulk key by chance close to the terminal you need

I guess you could take your time stealthing after you put the code in but I wonder how many clears had people simply pull the room

[icy cave]

Just go pew pew !

and take the rollercoaster ride

[latent obsidian]

always stealth 😤

Got D1 done as a trio now so just D2 before the E1 fun can start

[tiny salmon]

Are there planned achievements on steam?

[dry pumice]

@shadow flower

[stone dirge]

talkin about D2...

just got screwed over by bugs in D2 XD

why does the game still have the cfoam door bug that u can foam it once and it can never be foamed again... its been around since like R2

[pseudo wing]

Wdym

[dry pumice]

Desync issues I suppose?

[stone dirge]

sure if i wasnt the host

[noble sierra]

It sucks, it just happened and nothing you can do but just dump all your ammo

[stone dirge]

ok so imagine u cfoam a door and it foams up
once u try to refoam it for perma foaming or whatever no matter where on the door u aim it goes through

ontop of that the enemys can hit u through the door

half the time the door insta breaks after the cfoam it gone as well

[noble sierra]

Especially for the one in Class 7, they spawn so close to you so you have to kill them very fast end up killing much more than you could afford

[stone dirge]

yep

i mean we had everything till extraction done ||tank killed secondary done overload done|| so was just a matter of we needed some more ammo due to us having to ammo dump every alarm due to the door bug. our only options were to do a class 3 surge with next to no ammo or do the overload cargo carry to extract and then deal with the ||charger error|| ontop of that with next to no ammo

its the one question i have with the game... when will they fix major bugs like that, only issue with the answer is its not always repeatable and its a 1 in like 100 runs of happening

[noble sierra]

Looking at R7, I don't think they'll do anything.

Especially R7D1

[stone dirge]

oh 100%

[waxen bane]

It happened to my team as well when we first did D2 and cost us 1 full run coz c-foam decided to bug out at extraction. Not a level specific issue but it will be most obvious in D2 due to its innate high c-foam usage which is arguably the easiest strategy

[stone dirge]

just extract? it was the whole level for us XD

[waxen bane]

Technically only the class 6/7 benefits much from perma foaming so it's a bit of a dice roll unfortunately. For PE extraction if you kept the doors intact during the main progress I believe there's like 5-6 doors to you can foam once and let it be, will buy you more than enough time. You could even cfoam the small vertical ladders after the class 7 which would collision-block the shadows from moving as well

[stone dirge]

yeah

[shadow flower]

It would be cool, nothing to announce right now though

[solemn flint]

does anyone know how to reduce fps loss+ reduce input lag while not making the game go below 40fps?

[turbid horizon]

uhhh i’ve never heard of GTFO having input lag

[sacred dew]

Gpu max buffered frame or something in the settings can cause input lag

[sacred dew]

Have you tried lowering your settings?

[solemn flint]

almost to the bottom floor

[solemn flint]

it happen alot with knife

sometime i hold left click to charge but it doesnt work so have to press it 1 more

[sacred dew]

That’s just not registered

[solemn flint]

mouse problem?

[tardy ingot]

more like you have another thing queued already and that needs to finish maybe?

like when you cant weapon swap with carbine mid burst

[turbid horizon]

yeah that’s kinda what I was thinking

[solemn flint]

hmm

im gonna have a test run with knife

[spark wolf]

this is some shit they did with R6

its pretty cringe

doesn't let you instantly charge in some scenarios

[turbid horizon]

I think it was part of removing burst cancel

Could be completely off tho

[spark wolf]

charge cancel is also still broken

i think it breaks 100% of the time if you swing then insta charge and try to cancel

it will shove instead

and it will keep on doing it

[turbid horizon]

oh yeah the super fast shoving

[spark wolf]

not that

[turbid horizon]

There is another

[spark wolf]

its shove when its supposed to cancel the charge instead

right click during charge should never shove

but you can get it stuck in a loop where it keeps shoving

everytime you try to cancel

[turbid horizon]

cool

Never seen or heard of that

[sacred dew]

whats ur pc specs?

[solemn flint]

Acer nitro 5 verson 2019 with ryzen 5 3550H+ 16gb ram

[timid rampart]

What's the current meta with bots? Ie what weapons they're good with? And they still are useless for tanks and mothers I'd presume?

[turbid horizon]

Tanks pretty much useless, mothers they can be helpful with if you know it’s coming.

Only time they’re good on tanks sometimes is with more than one player

As for loadouts, I usually run Burst Rifle/Veruta MG, Burst Rifle/Shotgun, and Hel Revolver/Veruta MG

[timid rampart]

got it, thanks!

[turbid horizon]

Yeah, you can also feel around with it, I’ve gotten away with handing bots sniper rifles on levels where they’re good with them

Would almost never recommend that though

[timid rampart]

how come? Friendly fire?

[turbid horizon]

That, but mostly because they don’t have perfect aim and therefore precision weapons are the worst kinds of weapons on them bc if they mag dump sniper and miss all 3 shots, it’s bad

I generally would avoid giving them hard hitting weapons

Shotgun is an exception for me personally because it’s nice to have 1 bot with extra firepower

And hel revo, sometimes the bots just go godmode with it, but they’re pretty bad at ammo balancing it which is why I usually only take 1

[sacred dew]

should be able to run GTFO at 60FPS most of the time. GTFO is mostly CPU-bottlenecked so you can have CPU culling on low, Shadow update on very low. Turn off dithering, max frame buffer at 2.

[sage knot]

even with multiple players in team bots are still absolutely useless when it comes to tank fights, all they do is stand there and get licked till they're down, there is no exception to this , 100% fact

[turbid horizon]

uhhh i mean if you position them wrong, sure, but I’ve had bots heavily assist in taking down tanks

I’ve personally had bots be major assets on tanks (why I mentioned giving them snipers in certain situations)

[sage knot]

all they do is follow a set player and won't even take cover, maybe a few stray shots here and there would somehow register. Like if you use them as a decoy to get shots on tank then fair but they aren't chipping in anything

[turbid horizon]

Also the bots were patched to fear Pablo, and that also affected how they behave with normal tanks. They play a lot further away from them now

[turbid horizon]

Yeah so force them to take cover by having them place something down, have a fog or a sentry then start using a resource on them and immediately stop and you’ll have repositioned them

Or just go deeper into cover yourself and pull them in

There are absolutely ways to make bots work with tanks

And afaik they don’t melee them anymore

[sage knot]

other levels maybe if time isnt an issue, I simply cannot see how that's gonna work in R4E1

[turbid horizon]

It’ll be fine, honestly not worried ab Bishop with the tanks, more worried ab him going down on the surge scan

[sage knot]

i'm not sure if we're talking about the same level as the surge alarm is the least problematic when it comes to bots, shooters in that surge is the most annoying thing and bots dodges projectiles very well in general

[turbid horizon]

And if you’re taking more than one bot on E1, i can’t really help you. They aren’t built for deeper levels, they were never intended to be in the game, and they’re something a lot of people get frustrated at for no reason

I’m pretty good at using bots because I’ve got way too much practice on 3 bot and 1 bot expeditions

[sage knot]

we're running with one bot on bio on E1 and thats bad enough, we get through tank error with no problem but they're nowhere near what a real player can deliver when it comes to tank fights if not zero contribution at all. It doesn't bother me much since we pulled through but I'm simply stating that they don't contribute when it comes to some fights if rng is taken out of the equation

[dapper nova]

Question, best way to take out sleeping giant striker?

[minor fractal]

2-3 people trade staggering blows.

Break limbs.

Be behind for bonus damage.

[noble sierra]

^

[sacred dew]

Hammer-Spear-Bat, never the knife

[dapper nova]

K thx

[dry pumice]

Technically speaking spear is the dedicated giant killer. Extra reach helps staying away from the death punches, but you quickly get kissed instead if you fail a single fully charged limb break.

Hammer runs bigger risk of receiving a haymaker, but the extra stagger helps keeping the giant from doing anything else otherwise.

[turbid horizon]

i mean yes but then you have to use spear

just take bat and stagger him to death

[dry pumice]

Alnmy wipes are caused by people using their sprint button when they shouldn't.

Sprint button is cringe, embrace casual strolling.

[turbid horizon]

I mean if you’re stupid about sprinting

You will get killed yes

[dry pumice]

One guy sprinted into a giant charger.

[turbid horizon]

Listen

Having spear or not

If someone sprints into a giant charger they’re gonna die

[sturdy glen]

there is no risk with sledge, if there is youre doing it wrong

(for regular giants)

[turbid horizon]

Ehhh there’s a bit bc timing is small

Oh do you mean not solo?

[sturdy glen]

solo no scream, sure