gtfo-related-questions

[soft crater]

Depends what they do to Heavy SMG in Alt R5 as well

[neon gust]

special slot

[ocean spindle]

pls pls make it good

qwq

[neon gust]

mark my words

[ocean spindle]

i love that weapon like

so fkin bad

[neon gust]

they will use my suggestion 🙏

[ocean spindle]

dont do a heavy assault rifle NOOO

D;

i want it as main........

[neon gust]

but why, we have 3 smg's in main slot, 4 if you count bullpup as an smg

we 0 smg in the special

[noble sierra]

Just make it Hel Heavy SMG

[ocean spindle]

cause it isnt a normal like smg

its a low firing rate smg >:O

u know HOW COOL THAT SOUNDS

[dry pumice]

literally HAR, just closer range

But hey, as long as it looks cool...

Could make great buddies with BP

[ocean spindle]

har is fast firin rate now

:O

andits special

SEE WHY WE NEED IT AS MAIN SKMDK

:3

[dry pumice]

nah, not really

[neon gust]

nah

it goes to special

[dry pumice]

Alright, im going to sleep lads. Have a good one.

[ocean spindle]

niiight

[cold quarry]

it's ok at everything except reload speed*

[past mesa]

We need 5 smgs in the main slot

[cold quarry]

there's no upside to counteract the downside

[trail carbon]

Does anyone know how to fix the bug where I have 4 arms and what appears to be 3 legs?

[opaque scarab]

its the outfit you are wearing

[minor fractal]

You need to disinfect.

Usually there are disinfection packs or sometimes a station in the level

You can find them on the terminal.

[trail carbon]

Sir I think you have the wrong idea but also LOL

[opaque scarab]

i had the same bug with 4 arms until i switched the torso i was using

[trail carbon]

ahhhhhh that would make sense yeah

il give it a try once we die here

[opaque scarab]

I also have a question for those who have cleared rundown 4, In c3 am i supposed to do the overload before the secondary or the other way around? My group ran out of ammo before we could do the secondary.

[minor fractal]

Secondary -> Overload

Secondary makes the level easier in general.

[ocean spindle]

isnt that liquid bug

[minor fractal]

No.

[past mesa]

The two arms is disinfect

[ocean spindle]

... no idea tbh

[past mesa]

Related good game change

[opaque scarab]

ah thanks ray, I just assumed becuase the overload door was near spawn that we would have to do it first, I should know by now that most overloads are eerror alarms...

[minor fractal]

Skipping Secondary and just doing Overload is some of the hardest content in R4.

No cap.

Overload -> Secondary might even be easier than just doing Overload.

[trail carbon]

well outside of the torso change if I find a disinfect in R7E1 il uh... il inject meself with it lol

[opaque scarab]

Yeah i could imagine, this rundown isnt as hard as i thought it would be since everyone on the subreddit was saying its way harder than rundown 7. So farr its just really long each level.

[minor fractal]

Sometimes you need to disinfect quite thoroughly.

I usually go outside and roll around in the grass.

That usually fixes it.

[trail carbon]

well shit, I already did that today

brb il go roll around in it some more

[red flax]

Is the carbine just objectively better than the burst rifle? Did the recent ammo reduction of the carbine make a big difference?

[ocean spindle]

mh no not really

its still just like, good and above

but burst rifle its still a pretty good option

[cold quarry]

carbine's objectively better than most guns

burst is better for LONG ranges but in most scenarios i'd say carbine wins

[red flax]

How long?

I'm working with R2D2 atm

[cold quarry]

like r2d2 reactor-walkway long

[red flax]

Convenient

[cold quarry]

if you're hanging way back the burst might be better for you

but honestly the carbine wins most of the time

[red flax]

Is c foam, bio tracker, sr sentry, burst sentry a good loadout for R2D2?

[cold quarry]

why foam

i'd do 3 sentries and bio

[red flax]

Foam helped with scouts but it's probably a skill issue

[cold quarry]

yeah if you get good at meleeing them it saves you a tool slot then

[red flax]

We've kind of alerted all the scouts anyways...

[cold quarry]

or even just having a dude to blow their heads off (not counting the room full of them)

[mossy aurora]

yours is that big? sheeeesh

[red flax]

Is hel rifle any good on R2D2?

[opaque scarab]

not really

[red flax]

What situation does hel rifle shine?

[opaque scarab]

its good for killing big boys

can one shot a scout

but its slow and not very good for defending waves

every mission i usually run the same loadout of carbine + shotgun/combat shotgun

[ocean spindle]

but u should
but
thats the same guns
experiment! :D

[ocean spindle]

also just uh missions where u have
hallways or need the long range

i woould think its great for 2/3 of r7c1

but i havent tried it

so

[red flax]

Haven't gotten past R2 yet so I have no idea what other situations can occur

[opaque scarab]

All i can say is good luck with E1 lol

[ocean spindle]

all i can say its

‎

so anyway

[mossy aurora]

charger waves

[ocean spindle]

yeah uh i just pick hel rifle when i want funk times, cause i love it as a gun but its not very flexible

also fair

but still needs the hallway

[solemn flint]

does anyone know how to submit a need bread to carry request form?

[oblique charm]

so im new to gtfo like i just finished the training what exactly do i do now

[ocean spindle]

u can do a run of the first level in the first rundown
its preferable to start on rundown 1 since its, easier as a whole, u can do a run with bots or go to the LFG channels to get a team

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[hollow token]

whats the most popular rundown right now to matchmake for

[craggy pier]

r4

but its easily the hardest

[round gorge]

im in a 3 player lobby can we just start or do we need a 4th? we want justus

[hollow token]

if its an a1 level then start

[ocean spindle]

u can just put a bot in the 4th place

[hollow token]

but if its an e1 level you should probably wait

[ocean spindle]

u really cant, u just gotta change lobby

ik
it sucks

but well its better than bein with people that i dont want to b near

[tardy ingot]

its allright
its also not the best choice vs bigs unless they line up heavily

in a reactor you can use its pen well leading to 2-3 kills per shot quite often, but its more of a anti charger gun (something that doesnt exist in r2)

[hidden ridge]

What's the math needed to do blood door without waking up mom room? I never code fetched but that's what borks half of my attempts that reach the reactor

I know the mothers do not wake up if you shoot right close to blood door

since I assume everyone mines that

[civic wave]

What i've seen work is holding on the little ledge with the ladder on the left of the door

and yeah people use mines for the door

[hidden ridge]

👍

[civic wave]

good old NO IMAGE PERMS IN ANY CHANNEL

oh well you're smart, you get the idea

[icy cave]

Easiest way is: mine on door, mine a little off door. Mine at start of ramp. Pull run back down to side room (the one that gives acces to 516) mine that door.

Most of the time everything is ded

Otherwise shoot up on the bridge in the side room.

And defenders need to be aware they could get some enemies behind them

[fierce nebula]

spoiler chat users laughing rn

[sage knot]

level with lots of chargers

[solemn flint]

uhm how can i submit a request for r4e1 carry to bread?

do i need to pass any test to be able to qualify for bread's carry

[cloud fox]

Is 1 c-foam tripmine enough to freeze a tank or nah?

[fierce nebula]

I think its like 3 or 4

[solemn flint]

dont cfoam tank

it is a waste of cfoam

use the basic tank killing strat

[fierce nebula]

yeah its just too much c-foam to really do it

[cloud fox]

Fair enough, just wanted to know whether to save the mine or use it.

*save for horde/use on tank

[solemn flint]

Dont use cfoam for horde

Unless its from cfoam gun

Not cfoam nade

Cfoam gun can spread cfoam

[civic wave]

I think one cfoam tripmine can get a tank, but I don't know if that was because of funny client and still works in current version

[solemn flint]

Nade consentrate the cfoam liquid

[cloud fox]

Well aware.

[hidden ridge]

Does this depend also on where moms are in the mom room?

Like if they spawn too close to the sec door?

[icy cave]

no, it should not if you are above in the side room

[tardy ingot]

cfoam trip explosion freezes all cfoamable enemies

the foam it spews isnt what freezes the tank

[tardy ingot]

yes

can be an easy way to kill one

[cloud fox]

Damn. Well, always good to know in future, ta very much.

[steady mural]

do the rooms respawn after clearing them?

[icy cave]

depends on what level. But as your new I would say : no

[steady mural]

awesome! is this game pretty soloable?

[dry pumice]

No.

[solemn flint]

if the room has a cocoon on the ceiling, it is respawnable room

[steady mural]

can you kill those cocoons>?

[solemn flint]

no

[dry pumice]

Its meant to be played with players. Bots exist, but they are subpar and will get you through A and B tier missions, and maybe even some Cs.
But Ds, as well as optional objectives of Rundowns 4 and 7 will be off limit.

[icy cave]

they don't appear before R5, don't worry about them

[icy cave]

No

[steady mural]

oh okay thank you

[dry pumice]

Bots do no takedown sleeping enemies in stealth, they never leave your side and do not use their tactical tools without a direct order (with only exception being the biotracker).
Playing with bots adds like 15+ extra minutes to the expedition just because of that - you'll be doing EVERYTHING yourself.

The one good thing? They are completely silent. They can blast shotguns on top of a sleeping enemy's head and its not gonna do anything. As far as stealth sections are concerned - bots are not physically present.

[icy cave]

this just feels like someone doesn't like banter

[steady mural]

@dry pumice thanks for that information! might try it out

[wide canyon]

so what do you really gain from doing successful rundowns?

[icy cave]

drip. pride for completion

[solemn flint]

fun

[icy cave]

sometimes fun

[solemn flint]

cosmetic

[wide canyon]

yeah ofcourse, its the game you do rundowns to have fun and completion but is it just cosmetics then?

[icy cave]

yeah nothing else really needed

[solemn flint]

just cosmetic

[wide canyon]

alright thanks

[spark lantern]

wait so wondering, why is it you cant sprint with the spear?

[solemn flint]

and experience

[icy cave]

cause its garbo

[solemn flint]

i think its because of how u hold it

[icy cave]

easily worst melee. no comparison

[spark lantern]

so like a spear?

[solemn flint]

u hold with 2 hand which make it hard to run

[solemn flint]

uhmm, its a spear

so u hold it like spear

[spark lantern]

idk it just didnt make sense i mean you can hold a spear and charge forward with it, i was thinking oh maybe it's mechanically like this because of it being a drillhead so maybe it's just objectively heavy but then i wonder isnt the sledge heavy as well

[tardy ingot]

its just supposed „balance“

[solemn flint]

how can you run with a spear hmm

[tardy ingot]

but even with sprint it wouldnt be that good

[tardy ingot]

move feet fast

[spark lantern]

history?

[solemn flint]

oh yes, forgot about that

but basiclly, ur trading mobility for range and extra precision damage

which doesnt matter alot

[tardy ingot]

anyway, even with sprint the spear would be a subpar hammer

[solemn flint]

hammer basiclly do everything

mr hammer is ur best friend

he loves bonking everything

[spark lantern]

i always thought a big reason it feels like that is cause the overhead swings make it easier to adjust with than some of the weird hitboxes of the others

[solemn flint]

the swing feeling make it feel easier to aim

but the most important thing about hammer is it isthe do all in 1 melee

[lusty bramble]

Imagine devs having the gall to call their own weapon "well-balanced" 🤬🤬🤬😡😡

[dry pumice]

the audacity!

[solemn flint]

the hammer is too balance

[dry pumice]

I just do not understand game developers sometimes

I can't tell if they're delusional, don't care or what...

Just do it how dota does it - keep increasing its base damage by like +1 point until common opinion will be "alright, now its good enough"

[solemn flint]

too much patch

they would say that

[silver fable]

but how do they gauge common opinion?

[neon gust]

"hammer its balance" and other jokes you can tell your friends

[silver fable]

hang out in gtfo-chat all day? just accept whatever rayalot writes in his latest review as gospel?

they're probably much more inclined to follow the data

which could be how we got into this mess in the first place

[dry pumice]

Are you saying that spear usage is fine on their end?

[silver fable]

pubs love spear

absolutely can't get enough of it

[neon gust]

I've been fighting ray for centuries!

its like kung fu panda

[tardy ingot]

And how the hell do you buff a gun in such small steps while gather accurate data

1 dmg? Thats INSANE for step by step on some guns

[solemn flint]

machine pistol with that buff be like

i am the storm that is approching

[tardy ingot]

hel pp litteraly double dmg

[silver fable]

if you had some live way of pushing numbers, maybe you could do some sort of gradient descent or annealing or whatever and just say it's the warden doing it

[solemn flint]

hel pp become hel drill god destroyer

[tardy ingot]

the thing is theres a lot going into it

body shot, headshots
Efficiency vs all enemy kinds
How easy is it to get that efficiency
How easy is it generaly to kill stuff with it
TTK
Uptime (mag size and reload speed)
Range
heck even flashlights

[silver fable]

if a gun trips a breakpoint and becomes busted, maybe people would go crazy with it and the pick rate would go up, causing the system to back off right away

[tardy ingot]

like obviously you cant buff dmrs dmg

[solemn flint]

but not gonna lie, buffing a gun while trying to keep the thing that seperate gun from other is difficult

[tardy ingot]

so the only ways the system can see it is ammo economy prob

[tardy ingot]

also this

[silver fable]

I don't think it's a good idea if you want a balanced game, but you could do it, and it sure would be an experiment

[tardy ingot]

i think having guns like high cal that have a high floor and low/mid ceiling is nice

[solemn flint]

bullpup is an example

[tardy ingot]

it gives beginners a strong option for all rounder gameplay with lower aim requirement

[solemn flint]

yes it is a worst gun but the long reload make it bullpup

[tardy ingot]

eh

[solemn flint]

u cant remove the long reload then say it is a bullpup

[tardy ingot]

thats just cuz we memed it to death for 4-5 rundowns now

[dry pumice]

Okay, but none of this applies to spear, specifically. All of spear's issues are well known to us all.
Inferior damage, inferior stagger, can't sprint, precision multi worthless.

[silver fable]

why are we talking about high cal?

[tardy ingot]

i still stand by my opinion of making spear stand out as a giant killer

no sprint, but it can melee giants and bosses down

[dry pumice]

I guess we could try buffing the precision multi to some insane number and REALLY reward going for headshots

[solemn flint]

spear can melee giants easily solo

[dry pumice]

Hammer can do so better

[tardy ingot]

An example for a good beginner gun (rn its a low skill revo)

[solemn flint]

i take damage alot with hammer

[tardy ingot]

hammer has upside of stagger and sprint, spear of range vs giants

perfect hammer player always kills faster and can take more risks

spear avoids the risks

[silver fable]

I'm not a fan of "noob gun that's not good in experienced hands" and "gun that's hard to learn but vets break the game open with it, but pubs can't use it well therefore game balanced"

[tardy ingot]

eh
High cal as a good gun for beginners average for vets is good

gun thats awful for newbies but insane for vets is bad

low variance vs high variance

easy concept

[silver fable]

I'd rather they try to make the meta guns balanced in the hands of vets after investing in maximizing the gun, and let accessible options actually be strong

[tardy ingot]

I honestly think if high cal reload issue is fixed that the gun is very balanced as a choice unless chargers exist in the level

[tardy ingot]

huh? But thats the point?

high cal being good for a beginner and good for a vet due to low variance is that

[silver fable]

I think people overvalue 1tapping regular strikers

[tardy ingot]

vs say hel gun thats meh for beginners and insane for vets

[silver fable]

I don't think high cal is good for a vet

[tardy ingot]

1. its not overvalued
2. its great for beginners/low-average players

[red flax]

Is high cal reloading to 5 instead of 6 a bug?

[tardy ingot]

THATS THE POINT
its a good balanced/average choice for vets

[dry pumice]

yes, unfortunately

[neon gust]

floating number

[tardy ingot]

Compare it to pump shotty

[dry pumice]

something something bad roudinds

I do not understand how that's a thing but mkay

[red flax]

Dang, didn't expect floating point to happen there tbh

[silver fable]

no, I mean I think even guns I'd say are well balanced, like pump and choke shotgun, are clearly better than high cal

[neon gust]

if you played OG r4 you woulda cry with pump shotgun

[tardy ingot]

they are both harder to use and have at peak higher possible gain

[silver fable]

I don't think you undderstood my view when you responded here

what I was saying, was that I want the peak performance of both accessible and high skill barrier weapons to be comparable

[bleak pecan]

bring back the c scout 1 tap

[silver fable]

then the point of learning a weapon with a high skill barrier is that it gives you a different capability mix, but not a hugely more powerful one

[tardy ingot]

that means some guns are gonna be TRASH for beginners

id rather have a mix of low and high variance

[silver fable]

and that's fine, beginners should have options that work right away and options to grow into

[tardy ingot]

yea?

Thats not against the point

[silver fable]

balancing the game so that all options work right away for beginners, but then some options become giga-broken, is not an approach I'm a fan of

but it's what we basically have now

[tardy ingot]

for high cal and revolver to be on the same power level for vets youd have to either omega buff high cal (or per your point here) nerf revo

[silver fable]

or revert to launch R7 high cal, a compromise gun sitting neatly between pump shotty and choke mod

[tardy ingot]

then we have high cal, choke mod and hel rifle

at the exact same play pattern

[silver fable]

I'm not sure what I'd do if I were trying to make the current weird high cal balance meta

[silver fable]

we have like 6 waveclear specials

[tardy ingot]

current high cal imo (reload bug aside) is B tier

pretty fine

[silver fable]

it's fine to have a spectrum of power specials

[tardy ingot]

and im still sad they didnt go further with the arbalist (making it a heavy hitting slow fire automatic)

[silver fable]

also, saying that pump and choke have the same play pattern is very bizarre

[tardy ingot]

pump and choke? I never said that lol

[hidden ridge]

Died on ||pmom|| suggestion for that encounter on R4E1 Extreme?

[silver fable]

you said it here

[neon gust]

rush her first

[tardy ingot]

@silver fable read that again

[hidden ridge]

elaborate?

[silver fable]

oh lol thought pump was in there

[neon gust]

hol on class 7

[silver fable]

but also I think R7 high cal, choke mod, and hel rifle are all pretty distinct guns

[hidden ridge]

?

[silver fable]

R7 high cal is about as much like pump shotgun as it is like choke

[hidden ridge]

what do you mean?

[neon gust]

im on d2

my man

hol on

[hidden ridge]

ah

[neon gust]

[tardy ingot]

at this point im behind the high cal change (i was already worried with hel rifle return back then). Not because the gun is in a great spot, but because its at least somewhat unique

[silver fable]

it's in a crowded space of waveclear-oriented specials

[tardy ingot]

at this point the extra ammo vs r7 high cal is a buff vs all but shooters and chargers

[silver fable]

also bigs

anyway, we've made this too much about high cal

they already took basically my favourite special out of the game, I said my bit on it a long time ago

[tardy ingot]

you have more bullets now left over after 2 giants than before

[silver fable]

most of the guns get too much ammo now, there is far more to the capacity of a special in gtfo to impact the game than ammo reserves

[tardy ingot]

having more than 3 extra bullets is putting it ina funky spot between revo and the shotguns

[tardy ingot]

tbf you play mostly duo where ammo economy is different

[silver fable]

but again, if you think the right balance direction for the specials is to give the skill guns very high ceilings, you can make that point about other guns than high cal

no need to drag out the high cal debate again

[tardy ingot]

nah my point was high cal being a good beginner choice thats still a average gun for vets

[silver fable]

I'm good, the devs did what they wanted with the gun and I'd rather just use different guns

[tardy ingot]

vs revo/hel gun/choke mod thats a meh beginner choice but good to strong for vets

[silver fable]

the main difference is that in 4man you bring in ~4 extra refills worth of starting ammo

and maybe you overkill because 4 people try to shoot the same isolated striker sometimes

oh and the scans go faster

if we're comfortable being decadent with the ammo in duos, maybe there's a little much

[neon gust]

you can cfoam trip mom and burst her down

[hidden ridge]

one cfoamtrip is enough?

place it under her I guess?

[neon gust]

if you get lucky you can put the mine in between them and foam them both

yeah

cfoam tripmines works like mines

you kinda have a cone that will cfoam stuff + the bubbles from the mine itself

[hidden ridge]

nade is not enough to foam pmom I guess?

but thanks

[neon gust]

no

[lethal charm]

how do i get a list of all thats in, lets say sector 91 zone c

[soft crater]

You cannot list specific sections like the C

You can only List the Zone

[lethal charm]

ah

[soft crater]

Zone51

[neon gust]

no

[soft crater]

Anything Zone51a/Zone51B can't be listed specifically

[neon gust]

Use LIST U E_91

it will list all the stuff in zone 91 that are useful

resources cells etc

[soft crater]

The U is a filter

[lethal charm]

i'm looking for the objective which is uh

partial decoders

[soft crater]

E is shortened use of Zone_

[soft crater]

PD in the terminal

PD_(Series of numbers)

[lethal charm]

so LIST PD E_91?

[soft crater]

Should work yes

[lethal charm]

if the command is right then there are no pds in it

[soft crater]

You could also just list E_91

Which'll show everything in that zone

[lethal charm]

yea there were no pds in this giant room

according to the terminal

[soft crater]

Personally I've done my filters last

List E_40 ID

But shouldn't matter

[past mesa]

Both are filiters

[craggy pier]

3 is enough

[soft crater]

if you believe majority beginner terminal users would know to use more than 1 filter

then again zone filter is more commonly learned right away

[brazen jungle]

Hey, where should I put the id?

[minor fractal]

The game reads your clipboard and displays a button if the lobby code is recognized.

[brazen jungle]

Rly?

Thank you

[minor fractal]

Rly.

np

[soft crater]

[wide canyon]

any point redoing a expedition you already completed?

[minor fractal]

Building experience, you like the level, number go up.

[wide canyon]

what number goes up?

[minor fractal]

There is a number tracking how many times you clear each level.

That number will go up.

[wide canyon]

alright thanks

[rigid creek]

any tips for a band new player? i just got the game i have played a few but am struggling to complete the objective

also what dose it mean when it talks about a heat of the rundown

[floral acorn]

more heat, more likely u get boosters for collecting artifacts

[harsh vortex]

what's the best way to deal with the big ones quietly?

[past mesa]

Solo or with team

[harsh vortex]

with 2 others

[past mesa]

Hammer or spear or bat. then alternate your full charges to the back.

Bonus point is you aim for limb breaks

[past mesa]

Don’t stay to close to him cause you bait out the melee which can quickly down your whole team

[warm kelp]

im new to the game. i am wondering how do i change my weapon as i am fresh from tutorial

[past mesa]

Host a lobby

Then change it

[warm kelp]

oh so before you drop down?

[past mesa]

Yeah

Just host the lobby it will be obvious

[warm kelp]

by the way im scared to play it alone is it just me?

[past mesa]

You will have Ai

[warm kelp]

im going to drop down with others player not ai. is it cross play?

[past mesa]

No console

Only pc

[neon gust]

Im playing on my nintendo switch

[past mesa]

I am playing on my fridge

[warm kelp]

printer here

[past mesa]

Just drop dude

Best to just go

[warm kelp]

nah im scared

i need a Human

[neon gust]

the use lfg

#lfg-beginners

[warm kelp]

last question

how is the comunity

are they toxic?

or nice

[cold quarry]

mixed bag lol

if possible definitely find other newbies to play with

makes for a better experience

[warm kelp]

why?

[cold quarry]

because it's a genuinely fresh experience then

the horror is there, every corner you turn is a new nightmare

[past mesa]

Because when someone knows what’s behind doors it isn’t fun

[warm kelp]

just like real life

[cold quarry]

exactly

best way to not get anything spoiled

[neon gust]

Amazing to new players, and the us vets we kill eachother

[past mesa]

Bitch lovely person

[neon gust]

pubs will always be a hit or miss just like any other game

[warm kelp]

alright coz most games when i play people are just toxic overall

[neon gust]

and dont be afraid of adding people who you like to play consistently

[neon gust]

whore

you see

[past mesa]

Dragon do you know how to make the infinite scout scream happen

[neon gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djD9fSSqXeA

no

[past mesa]

Unfo

[warm kelp]

but the group lfg beginer doesnt say server

[past mesa]

What do you mean friend

[neon gust]

Just specify it

Put NA, EU

[past mesa]

Ah that makes sense yeah it doesn’t matter that much

[warm kelp]

yeah and does dmg have numbers or all weapons that say high have the same dmg

[past mesa]

It does but dw about that right now

[neon gust]

Bring hel revolver and veruta

for now

[past mesa]

Lol

Based

[neon gust]

lots of damage and bullet

and no brain to use

[warm kelp]

well i do want to try all weapons

[neon gust]

good

[little lintel]

Is there any reason to use any other tools aside from the shotgun turret?

I've tried just about every combination and the shotgun turret seems to be the only one effective enough to help clear alarm waves

[upper ginkgo]

so based

[solemn flint]

u dont need sentry to self clear the wave, that is not the purpose. u bring sentry to help thin out the wave or wave control

[craggy pier]

Holy shit lmao this guy is based as fuck

[solemn flint]

but yea, that guy is so basic

[craggy pier]

I'm thinking of picking up this game now that it's on sale but I'm not sure if I'll enjoy it or if I'll find it tedious or too difficult. What's the learning curve like? And how replayable do you find it?

[solemn flint]

he need some spice to his selection

[craggy pier]

Is there any reason to use any other tools aside from the shotgun turret?

I've tried just about every combination and the shotgun turret seems to be the only one effective enough to help clear alarm waves

[solemn flint]

really replayable, u will wish that u never get the game after play it, fun

[craggy pier]

oooh.

[solemn flint]

btw, u dont want to know what fun mean

[craggy pier]

Gonna rewatch some reviews, lol.

[solemn flint]

so lame

[little lintel]

Bro

[craggy pier]

How is the solo experience? Or playing with randoms?

[past mesa]

based

[craggy pier]

I tend to play games like this with people I already know, but I'm not sure if I have a group together for it.

[past mesa]

it is the only sentry

[solemn flint]

but for real gtfo is a shooting game, not a sentry tower defend game

[solemn flint]

playing solo is fun, with random is more fun

[little lintel]

I've tried so many combinations, the only one viable enough to get me through waves is 4 stacking accrats, drekkers, and shotgun turrets

[little lintel]

And why the fuck is one of my bots autistic, but the other one is literally the human equivalent of goku

[craggy pier]

Hmm, yeah I probably won't be getting this lol.

Apparently there's no matchmaking? Or community servesr.

[solemn flint]

uhmm

[little lintel]

#how-to-matchmake

[solemn flint]

dude, we are here

[little lintel]

You find randoms in here

[solemn flint]

we are in the community/ game server

[craggy pier]

I mean actual matchmaking, not via Discord. 😂

[solemn flint]

matchmaking í sad

[craggy pier]

That's fine as a supplement but it just doesn't seem like a great option as the ONLY option.

[jagged shore]

you've got that backward

[solemn flint]

IT IS NOT SUPPLEMENT

oh god

[jagged shore]

discord came first

matchmaking was the supplement

and since everyone was used to discord

no one uses mm

[craggy pier]

Wait so GTFO has in-game matchmaking?

[solemn flint]

please remove in game vc and in game match making

[craggy pier]

I mean, Discord makes the barrier to entry higher, if you use it as the only place to matchmake.

[solemn flint]

thats the point

[craggy pier]

The point is... to make the barrier to entry higher?

[solemn flint]

u want to be selective when doing stupid level

[jagged shore]

yeah, but you're gonna be fighting a losing battle trying to convince people to use igmm at this point

[craggy pier]

You want people to find it hard to play your game?

[solemn flint]

and you want beginner to go for easier level

[craggy pier]

Man, this doesn't make any sense to me 😂

Shit seems backwards, XD.

[solemn flint]

u just dont understand it

[craggy pier]

Oh, no doubt, lol.

[jagged shore]

it's cause mm isn't actually match making

it's just
game finding

[craggy pier]

So it just... is a server browser?

[neon gust]

steam forums cried like bitch during EA

they ask for mm

[craggy pier]

Or it puts you in a random match?

[neon gust]

they got it

its broken and doesnt function

use lfg on discord

way better quality

[solemn flint]

easiest way to explain is we need great people to deal with the most toughtet shit in the game and beginner can do easier one until u get better

[neon gust]

and if you encounter a cheater you cna actually kick them via mod mail

[solemn flint]

sometime be selective is good

[craggy pier]

So why not just have an in-game matchmaking system then? And gate difficulty behind achievements?

[solemn flint]

achievements mean nothing

[craggy pier]

I mean, they're literally achievements.

It's in the name.

[neon gust]

You play gtfo for the action!

[craggy pier]

I'd argue they definitely mean something.

[solemn flint]

and in game frecking matchmaking got release later

like so late to the point that discord just better at everythin

[craggy pier]

From the sounds of it, in-game matchmaking was added because it was requested, and it's barebones and doesn't work as well as Discord.

[neon gust]

yep

[solemn flint]

no one use that

[craggy pier]

Which is silly to me, because Discord pales in comparison to some matchmaking and server browser sysetms, lol.

I know no one uses it, you said it multiple times. You don't need to repeat yourself.

[neon gust]

theres only like at most 2000 players daily

[craggy pier]

Damn, really?

[neon gust]

most of them are premade groups

[solemn flint]

a lot, i mean alot of game use discord to find game

[neon gust]

the rest youll find them here

[craggy pier]

Yeah, but not as the MAIN matchmaking system.

[soft crater]

[neon gust]

i think gtfo might not be your game if your too into matchmaking

[solemn flint]

IT IS THE MAIN MATCH MAKING

[jagged shore]

this server is essentially a server browser

[craggy pier]

It just seems really odd to me that you need to use and configure a third-party program to play the game. 😂

[solemn flint]

u dont program

[jagged shore]

it's just cause

[craggy pier]

Are you illiterate?

[solemn flint]

it is already there from the start

[jagged shore]

they didn't have mm for a while

[soft crater]

Gtfo Discord LFG was the original method before ingame mm was created

[jagged shore]

yeah peter you're being kinda dumb rn

[soft crater]

Even then it ain't really being used aside from a few beginner levels from others who don't use discord

[solemn flint]

eh

[craggy pier]

Discord is the main matchmaking system for this game, the in-game matchmaking system you've described is inferior. It should be the other way around, but obviously it isn't.

[jagged shore]

again, it's cause in game didn't exist for most of the game's life

so everyone who played and cared about the game got used to using the discord

[soft crater]

Back then In-game matchmaking didn't exist until like OG r3

[craggy pier]

Damn, that's a shame XD. I'd love a system that was optimised for matchmaking, though Discord doesn't do a terrible job by any means, it just annoys me 😂

[neon gust]

OG R4

[soft crater]

My memory ain't perfect. But ty

[jagged shore]

and also, there's a part of the game that just
wouldn't work as well for in game mm

[craggy pier]

DW im just memeing ur all good ❤️

[jagged shore]

that being, optional objectives

people decide here ahead of time what they're gonna do so they advertise that that's what they're doing

[soft crater]

Adapt and overcome

[finite tangle]

does in game matchmaking really matter when u can make friends to play with lol

[soft crater]

[solemn flint]

the journey to make friends

[soft crater]

You'd be surprised how many people who lfg and because they don't have a group

[neon gust]

Imaging making friends via lfg

[craggy pier]

True, true, XD. Just feels wrong to me that a game doesn't have a server browser, or matchmaking built into the game.

Might ask a few friends what they think. Thanks for the help. 👋

[soft crater]

I mean I still play with one of them.

[finite tangle]

i mean that's the point. but once you find a solid group then ur pretty much set

[soft crater]

Though not gtfo

[solemn flint]

i know about the god of bread after doing lfg

[upper ginkgo]

save your $28 🙏

[soft crater]

Not solid

[jagged shore]

it has matchmaking built in
it's just barren because everyone uses discord instead

[finite tangle]

main reason im here is to play with people when my friends aren't online cuz of timezone diff

[soft crater]

Not everyone is usually as committed or got the time

[finite tangle]

right

[craggy pier]

Sounds kind of misleading to players who don't know about the Discord, but fair, lol.

[soft crater]

Some have LIVES

But yeah

[finite tangle]

i mean im not dumping hours into it either but sometimes you just wanna play with people 🤷‍♀️

[jagged shore]

i don't really see how it's misleading?

it kinda sucks for them but

the functionality is there

[soft crater]

Other issue is. The buttons in game literally take you to the discord server link iirc

[craggy pier]

Well, not misleading but it just seems like another barrier for entry to new players that doesn't need to be there.

[finite tangle]

the discord link is in the main menu

[jagged shore]

it sure doesn't need to be there

[craggy pier]

Ah, okay, that makes it easier.

I figured it wouldn't be linked anywhere, haha.

I keep forgetting games do that nowadays.

[finite tangle]

it's pretty nifty

[soft crater]

Most games have it a little icon you click on

Or socials tab etc etc

[finite tangle]

i will say tho, sometimes the bots are better than people

[craggy pier]

I am glad that GTFO has in-game matchmaking though, since if Discord ever dies or stops being popular it's good to have a system in place.

[neon gust]

Every game with a community on discord have an lfg section on their server

[finite tangle]

blasphemer!

[soft crater]

That's because some people treat this game like left 4 dead and get skill issued thinking this game is easy when it's got a skill curve

[neon gust]

pretty much

[finite tangle]

for sure. i like that about it. even tho i am by no means that great 😂

[soft crater]

People either get stuck on the first level for an hour or 2. R1A1
OR they struggle with the multitude of rooms in R1B1
Or they say R1C1 is too hard

But imo it shows just how accurate you really are.

I can't say it more how it feels some runs that I'm the only one hitting my shots in r1c1 when I'm with beginners

[opaque scarab]

have you tried htting more shots?

[past mesa]

i couldnt

[tardy ingot]

Matchmaking > what the game actually is

if i cant matchmake why even bother playing :^ )

[mint flower]

is there a lfg channel for non-beginner?

[civic mist]

That'd be the regional lfg channels I guess. Just post in the region you are hosting from.

[mint flower]

cant see any reagional channels

[civic mist]

you might have to enable channels all the way up in channels and roles mby? either way this is #lfg-north-america for example

[bold atlas]

I need recommendation for levels. My group of friends are coming back to gtfo, they have good aim and game sense but since they hate this game and I am sorta forcing them I need a fun level… any recommendations?

[craggy pier]

R4C3 PE is extremely fun!!!

[bold atlas]

n o

Don’t lie to me

[craggy pier]

I would never lie

I am well known in the community for being truthful and upstanding

[latent obsidian]

R7D2 maybe?

[bold atlas]

I only remember that level being pain

R4C3

[craggy pier]

nah its pretty chill

:3

[bold atlas]

Hm I see

Tbh I want to try R7C3 PE with them but might be a bit hard

[solemn flint]

fun huh, my recomendation would be r3d1

[rare venture]

Hi I'm new to the game, what is , I understand primary and secondary objectives but not this

[soft kiln]

overload objective (second optional objective) generally harder secondary objective

if you complete all three objectives in one go you'll get prisoner efficiency

[icy cave]

R4E1

[rare venture]

So jts like secondary secondary objectives

Thx

[soft crater]

Secondary. I only know EXTREME

[ashen frigate]

"Warning - Threat Level : Secondary" just does not sound as threatening

[wary linden]

That's because before it was viewed and separated by the threat level for all objectives. Making it like the complex was scanning the areas and rating them on threat level

Now it's just rated as objectives to do... Except overload. So it's a mixed that just makes less sense

[fierce nebula]

^^^

[wary linden]

It also makes even less sense to have doors with a panel that can read "main" or "secondary"

And the repeated voiceline that we had back then for all bulkhead door reinforced the idea of the complex scanning areas and warning people constantly about the threat level. But that was removed when they changed it to the very mediocre "main, secondary, overload" change

It is funny cause it removed immersion from the game for the people that prioritize that but they went out of their way to remove bunny hopping because it was breaking immersion

[mossy aurora]

its also funny how overload got to stay but they were like nah "Extreme" thats gotta go

[wary linden]

It makes no sense

[mossy aurora]

ads single bio ping moment

[wary linden]

It's not properly thought out like most things

It feels like a lot of short sighted decisions

[hidden ridge]

More like decisions that were changed midway for bizzare reasons tbh

[wary linden]

Also. When are we getting our dodge back? That stamina bug killing the dodge is still present after all this time

[icy cave]

not

[soft kiln]

I sort of understand why high is gone but extreme tho

[wary linden]

They acknowledge it wasn't intentional that dodge broke

And still no fix lol

[icy cave]

I think btw that the door sounds were removed cause "some" found them irritating

[wary linden]

Yet scan into scan is back after more complains

[icy cave]

aka more caving to the casual players who never stick around anyways

[wary linden]

I sure love doing a bulkhead key scan to go to another security scan not alarmed

Something they actively stopped doing post r4

[icy cave]

Again. It helps the casual players 😂

[wary linden]

Ok bit why not make it open door

[icy cave]

nah but all joking aside. I think that one was unintentional

[wary linden]

It's really amazing to see regression on stuff after all these years

:)

[sage knot]

changing from high to main is okish but extreme to secondary is dumb af, ain't that hard to figure out simple stuff

[wary linden]

Oh no. The reason is simple why it was changed

R6 was 1.0

Influx of new players

They were probably afraid people wouldnt understand what to do/where to go

So it was streamlined to main/secondary

[verbal zinc]

OPEN THE DOOR

[wary linden]

And considering r6 has 2 overload only.. they didn't bothered with changing that one

[icy cave]

They weren't wrong tbh. The amount of new people that still ask ...........

I just want them back for my immersion FFS

[wary linden]

They could have EASILY kept the repeating voicelines and just change the doors panels to main/secondary/tertiary

Make it consistant and keep immersion

[vague bridge]

tertiary doesn't sound as cool as overload

[ocean spindle]

tertiary sounds like a bad cake

[wary linden]

Ok. But the reason of the change of high and extreme to streamline things to avoid confusion doesn't fully work cause people still ask about overload lol

But then again it's just another thing to add on the list of things that don't fully work

[vague bridge]

i dont follow

[sage knot]

maybe they should have introduced the tutorial with 1.0 release and actually give info on side objectives

[ocean spindle]

why, r4a1 is like
enough to learn at that point

its just a secondary with a main

and then b1 adds in the overload

[vague bridge]

r4a1 is a good way of introducing the optionals

[wary linden]

1 year and half after 1.0

And 1 year and half before 1.0

[ocean spindle]

yeah, it would just make the training longer and a not speedrunner usually does it in 20 30 mins

[wary linden]

Yup totally not regressed in between

[ocean spindle]

i didnt
got that

[wary linden]

You lost the good introduction to the game with r6 and r7

[ocean spindle]

ok so now we talkin of the game as a whole and not the bulkheads ok

[wary linden]

And r1-r3 are optional free so people are just gonna be wondering what those symbols are in the rundown screen since there are no optionals in those one

[ocean spindle]

ahh

sorry

english broken but i got it

my english btw

[wary linden]

It also doesn't help that the 1st optional in r7 is r7D1 or r7B2 which isn't a story mission for b2 lol.

And for r6 optionals were only in non-story missions

[sage knot]

they don't have to add extreme/overload bulkhead into the tutorial, even just an optional pop-up info page on the main panel would help

[wary linden]

People can't even read top left corner of their screen that tells them WHAT TO DO in levels

The number of time i heard "what are we doing here?" or "where are we going now?" is ridiculous when it is written in their face

[ocean spindle]

i love when that happens to pro players that just dont care of the levels anymore and they just

go in

and then somethin slaps em in the face or somethin skmdk

[wary linden]

Pro players wont be dying to stupid shit though as if they are truly pro and don't care. They probably are at a level that they survive 90% of scenario by auto piloting

[ocean spindle]

man i cant even do a lighthearted lil comment

[sage knot]

hmm I don't even know if there are that many new players joining the game rn or it's just the same bunch of vets returning every now and then. Even the nerfed alt rundowns are still shredding people apart esp with R4 and R5

[solemn flint]

its funny to see people not read top left

they dont even know if the key is taken or not

[ocean spindle]

theres lots of newies from what ive seen

they always pile up when theres a sale :3

its kind of funny heh

[solemn flint]

gtfo have loads of sales

usually 20% off

[ocean spindle]

but its nice that people still get into this game, even if its a lil lateish

[wary linden]

Almost like most reviews are "wait for a sale"

[ocean spindle]

we all wait for sales

except me cause i was stupid

[solemn flint]

there are no such thing as late

[ocean spindle]

but everyone likes the sales

[ocean spindle]

there was one for r4

30%

ah

i misread

sorry

[solemn flint]

i like sales, i dont want to waste money

[ocean spindle]

i read sale KMSDKM

[solemn flint]

some game sale alot

[tardy ingot]

theres definetly a lot of new guys

[ocean spindle]

yeah, some of my wishlist just go in 60% all the time

[solemn flint]

50%, 70%, that is a lot of money save

[ocean spindle]

killin floor when free like 7 times

[tardy ingot]

and yes while quite a lot wait for sales, theres a continous influx of new guys

[ocean spindle]

noice :3

[tardy ingot]

its very obvious on twitch

[ocean spindle]

ill teach em all bat is the best melee >:]

and none of u can stop me

[solemn flint]

more people to throw into r7e1

[spark wolf]

the nerfed

[solemn flint]

noice

[tardy ingot]

when you see a bunch of new guys do a1

[spark wolf]

so true so real

[solemn flint]

throw them in r7e1

[ocean spindle]

no

[tardy ingot]

"the nerfed" ?

[ocean spindle]

shush >:b

[solemn flint]

what nerf?

[ocean spindle]

nerfed players

nerfed newies

[hardy grotto]

I’ve heard a lot about these nerfs

[sage knot]

they could buy it at like 80% off but still a waste of money when people are barely touching anything beyond B tiers for whatever reason

[solemn flint]

what is a nerf newbie?

[solemn flint]

they arent ready for the real stuff

[ocean spindle]

a newie that just um
cant do bunnyhop irl :]

[tardy ingot]

you mean new players not playing after b tiers?

i mean thats a personal choice

[solemn flint]

i cant do that

[ocean spindle]

NERFED

[tardy ingot]

theres not a lot of games where they are worth if you skip 90% of the content

[solemn flint]

my statima got nerf to about 50%

plz buff me again

[ocean spindle]

no >:3

[solemn flint]

why

[ocean spindle]

cause the balance would b off!

[solemn flint]

[spark wolf]

can we get a weekend event where stamina is disabled

[ocean spindle]

no

[spark wolf]

you're gatekeeping kiting

elitist

[ocean spindle]

good :3

ill give u knoife

[tardy ingot]

imaging using the melee

in a shooter

[sage knot]

I can't speak for anyone but it does look like quite a lot of new comers don't go very deep. Maybe people just don't want to commit

[tardy ingot]

[ocean spindle]

u dont kill em while they sleep or

[solemn flint]

they are being scare

[tardy ingot]

its a mix of them being new... well obviously and thus being pretty bad at the game for now
its where the people that want to play it and the ones that want it to be easy usually are divided

then theres also the guys that are bad but wanna keep playing

[solemn flint]

eva, u are making me scared now

[tardy ingot]

hardstuck r1b2 for 3 months moment

[spark wolf]

dont wanna go too deep when you're still new

[tardy ingot]

SOMEHOW

[spark wolf]

i get that

[tardy ingot]

@solemn flint hm?

[solemn flint]

eva with tha knife

[tardy ingot]

i think ive used the knife on ... r1 and r7a1 solos?

[ocean spindle]

and when did u used the bat

[tardy ingot]

eval

[ocean spindle]

:c

[tardy ingot]

uh, in r7a1 full squad iirc

and duos

[ocean spindle]

ohh :3 noice

me runnin bat by accident in the most filled charger level:

[spark wolf]

if you use the bat or the spear by choice, leave the lobby

[ocean spindle]

hey >:b

leave my bat

dont compare it to that!

[solemn flint]

im on team knife

but have to swap to hammer for r4

[ocean spindle]

i would use knife if i didnt have lag skdmk seems like such noice weapon

[wary linden]

It's almost like the game is designed around hammer

[solemn flint]

not rlly

its just hammer do everythin

in r4 when almost everything exist in a level, yea i need that

[wary linden]

All the other melees are derived from hammer

[tardy ingot]

nah game is litteraly designed around hammer

[solemn flint]

too much giants for a knife

[tardy ingot]

the only thing that it didnt need and should get nerfed is the insane stagger

[spark wolf]

BALANCED

[solemn flint]

too much scout

need mobility

oh yes game do design around hammer

[ocean spindle]

yeh pls nerf so bat has that qwq

[wary linden]

Bat still get easier stagger on mom no? :)

[tardy ingot]

does it 🤔

[ocean spindle]

i never tried but i would guess since it charges faster

...

[tardy ingot]

never calced the stagger per sec

[ocean spindle]

is it dmg stagger with hammer

i dont get stagger super well

but we gotta test now

EVA UR GONNA USE BAT MORE NOW

:D

[tardy ingot]

no

[wary linden]

You can stagger mom out of birthing

[tardy ingot]

solo?

[ocean spindle]

... a lil bit? qwq

[wary linden]

Idk about solo

[tardy ingot]

cuz duo hammer can too

hammer needs 2 full charges and minimal dmg iirc

[wary linden]

But like bat can still kill a giant with no charge hits from start to finish without the enemy managing to attack if done right :)

[solemn flint]

refuse

i would prefer something punchy

[spark wolf]

but the hammer does it faster

[ocean spindle]

[i it has to b charged]

i think

[solemn flint]

not something bonking

[ocean spindle]

... have i onetap a big?

[solemn flint]

and hammer wacking faster

[spark wolf]

stop coping bat users

[ocean spindle]

they stealin our moves!

[solemn flint]

i dont have discord nitro so

dont have access to advance hammer technology

[wary linden]

Bat has technically a higher skill ceiling then hammer... Just takes a lot more efforts too

[spark wolf]

COPE COPE COPE

[ocean spindle]

so im better than all of u >:3

im better than all of this server

:D

[solemn flint]

hammer do the same thing

[ocean spindle]

but i have the skill >:3c

[solemn flint]

hammer need skill

[wary linden]

It can have a better skill ceilling but reaching it is not worth it compare to hammer

[solemn flint]

the precise

the accurate

[spark wolf]

the hammer staggers with like half charge

you dont gain anything from the bat

[solemn flint]

and the perfect bonk

[ocean spindle]

i stagger with no charge!

[solemn flint]

i bonk kill with 1 charge

[ocean spindle]

[before everyone starts shreddin me i am jokin pls dont, shred me]

[ocean spindle]

but i do it cool

:]

[solemn flint]

but i am big and powerful

and do every job

[ocean spindle]

i do those jobs faster >:3

[solemn flint]

but i do all the job

u only do a few

[ocean spindle]

no i do all with fast charge time

:D

[solemn flint]

Can u bonk scout without going behind him?

[tardy ingot]

do you tho?

[ocean spindle]

if its crouched i could bust out a pro gamer move and hit it while turning around

:]

[ocean spindle]

yes!

do see this charge up time

[tardy ingot]

where the speedrun then?

[ocean spindle]

workin on it i just go so fast obs doesnt record it >:]

[tardy ingot]

shame

gotta get obspeed

[spark wolf]

the bat is in the training level so therefor the devs have confirmed it is the lowest skill weapon

[ocean spindle]

yeah i just need a software more adequate to the
bat skills

[spark wolf]

just another L for bat users

[ocean spindle]

nah they just knew bat so powerful they gave it to newies so they could learn faster

if they had a hammer, most wouldve died cause it charges too slowly

[spark wolf]

statistically false cuz they keep dying in training

[ocean spindle]

blame that on the hammer users that just try to play training to speedrun
they not used to the power of the bat so they just cant even go that fast

:]

[spark wolf]

nah the speedrunner are just the 1 PERCENT

[ocean spindle]

nuh cause normal players play it once see the beauty of the bat and use it on missions, they can just get that joy replayin and replayin training :]

[wary linden]

The 1% that still die to A tier missions yes :)

[spark wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/mikeohearn-gif-9467924472242763968

[ocean spindle]

nice shirt

[solemn flint]

how would u guys think about a lobby looking for expierience player and when join u relise that they are doing sleath killing really slow?

it feel really strange

[ocean spindle]

i would guess they havent seen pro players really

and they just been like playin the game normally

maybe they were just lookin for someone with good aimin

[solemn flint]

im not pro player

[ocean spindle]

u sure

:]

[solemn flint]

i still go slow on shadow and scout room

im blind as f not seeing mom next to me

i cant hear stuff

[minor fractal]

Probably this.

I think a lot of people are blissfully unaware of the skill cap.

[solemn flint]

it just strange to see people go really slow while i just casually walking

[minor fractal]

Some people might also just want to get carried.

I think it's more unaware, though.

[solemn flint]

how can people unaware of skill cap

[ocean spindle]

u know some people dont know like u can run at sleepin enemies right

[solemn flint]

oh wait

i have just realise something

i play with ray, jish, bread, nik, dj,...

i know how max skill cap look like

[solemn flint]

i can understand it now

[minor fractal]

Had an R3B2 a few days ago where they posted something like "want to get through quick, exp preferred"

And I'm like "oh yeah, quick run through, EZ"

[solemn flint]

then took 1 hour for that run

[minor fractal]

And when I get in, these mfers are full-on playing normally, trying to query stuff to figure out where to go, etc.

Oh no, I made it fast.

I was promised a fast-ish run, I'm gonna move shit along.

[solemn flint]

my guess is that they said what tha fuc are u doing

why are u pulling door

[minor fractal]

Yeah kind of, they acted like their request was pretty reasonable and they just wanted to move at a brisk pace.

But "brisk" is just the most bog-standard shit I've ever seen.

[solemn flint]

they dont realise what they "quick" really mean

but yea, i can understand that

[tardy ingot]

cant judge for nik (and well, dj not rly either) but when playing with ray, jish and bread

thats not skill cap yet

[solemn flint]

how is that not skill cap?

that is like insanely fast

and max level carry

[tardy ingot]

theres still skill above that

[solemn flint]

what is more above that?

[tardy ingot]

and now imagine you are part of a newish/average crew and have never played/seen players like that

you might think you are close to the peak

[solemn flint]

true

i guess i forgot how a new player work

[tardy ingot]

crazy solo players and other insane stuff

the difference isnt monumental anymore. Its not like say... bread and jish cant duo most levels, its just how the mistakes get reduced more and more

[solemn flint]

my mind just got blow up

[humble crater]

is there an alarm on r4c2 main extraction? like if you start extracting will it spawn enemies? or it is an safe extraction

[solemn flint]

||alarm if u do overload||

[tardy ingot]

isnt there also a charger extract?

or am i missrembering that from og, no clue

[solemn flint]

i dont remember the extract without overload

i think all of them are chargers wave

[weary mesa]

C2 main has a regular striker extract

[icy cave]

Not on OG either, nvm never did a non-PE run, so actually not sure

[tardy ingot]

oh i meant missremembering as in thinking of another level

[humble crater]

we got all of the collectables there is no alarm so far thats why im asking is there any on the extraction.

[solemn flint]

did u grab the package in overload

[weary mesa]

Yes if you step into extract an alarm starts

[humble crater]

we are getting prepared for it

[solemn flint]

just get ready to run

run for ur life

[icy cave]

When you do R4C2 only main so you have 5o go back and do PE later 😭

[humble crater]

nah man we did everything im just gathering some info for overload.
Okay ill admit it, i was thinking about preloading the extraction so when we get the sphere to the extraction well immediately extract

[solemn flint]

u dont

[humble crater]

i got scared of breaking the mechanich so thats why im jsut asking

[icy cave]

You can just say straight up 😅 it's a valid strat

Just not on that level

[solemn flint]

the game always have something to stop the prescan

[humble crater]

the same thought process broke r7c2 so i had to do it again, it scarred me...

[icy cave]

Nah

that's BS

R4D1 for example

[solemn flint]

wait

r4d1 doesnt have extraction alarm when touch?

[icy cave]

Nope

[civic wave]

No

Super fast extract with no strings attached

[solemn flint]

hmm

interesting

[icy cave]

why? I refuse to extract on a main only run. would rather wipe

[craggy pier]

if you dont do secondary on D1 an immortal BBC spawns

[icy cave]

IRL

[craggy pier]

[bold ginkgo]

Is there a sleeping position for the snatcher?

[tardy ingot]

kinda?

[past mesa]

Just striker animations

[wise thicket]

Do snatchers scream?

[past mesa]

No