#gtfo-related-questions
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any advice for the main keyed security door in R1C2? 2 out of 4 runs (with bots) the charger waves have spawned on the door either with on 1 of the 3 shotgun sentries I've put down or I move some sentries to a door and the next wave spawns on the other door. the spawns of the scans aren't helping as they're going to the worst spots (half upstairs half downstairs for example)
I can get through the entire level up to that point perfectly fine
slightly frustrating tbh
Shotgun centuries are good at holding off waves of smalls, and much less effective against chargers. If you have a bought on bio tracker, then snipers entries are going to work wonders for you against those chargers
Also, you get so much tool in the last zone or two before extraction, that if you bring seafoam launcher and minds you can have a ton of mines and seafoam to spare for around the room after covering every door for the final alarm
in that room? snipers?
it's worth a shot since shotguns seem to give me more reasons not to use them more I do lol
Trippple sniper sentry is probably the way though
ya the sight lines are not perfect, burst sentries will def be fine
one funny thing did happen with a c foam nade where I told one of the bots to use it on a door I was looking at and because he was like 5 miles away he just used it there on a random wall 
but with the bots on bio, and aiming sentries at the bottom of the ladder, snipers can excel
Burst will also do the trick. I would just mine and foam all doors. there's like 5
No guarantee they spawn behind a new one every time tho
foam/mine def works, and spray the excess errwhere
yeah on the first alarm door I put a mine on one of the close doors but they decided to come from the door way to the left cause, idk ai reasons
excess on the ladder
so I'm convinced that run had it out for me
SH!
some so!
AI forced them on the ladder
just gotta try again 
yeah that ladder thing is weird
ehh with bots i guess you can start doing that whenever, but when you play with humans try not to do that cheese, try to just shoot instead
If you put a lot of foam on it, it wil basically stop the whole wave.
temporarely obv
Id rather recommend mines + double sentry + bio
mines make smart setup work well
true, tho no cfoam will mean each mine only grabs 3-4 chargers that alarm starts chill and ramps up iirc
Wut? they'll still gang up on the door and kaboom
i am remembering that the first wave spawn or two are reduced, minimizing the impact of mines
nah it will kill ~7-10 enemies
they pile up quick enough
you dont need for them to wipe it all
do first alarm (or both side zones at once if you wanna do that) with open doors no mines
sentries clean house wirh 1 pathing direction
then for class 4 ending place all mines on doors and sentry split up
boom, easy
What guns do you recommend for later levels? Are shotguns the way to go when dealing with the spawncapped sleepers or are machine guns the option.
Whatever guns best suit the situation.
The type of encounter and enemy composition has a lot of influence, and most guns are pretty strong.
sawed off reigns supreme
Most
^
cant wait to try it on r4e1 š¤Æ
Can you follow @neon gust 's example and be the silent one?
Oh boy you are gonna have fun soon
:^ )
;-;
:D
Generally, CQC best suits standard alarms due to variable terrain, and stuff like reactors favors precision weapons.
MGs can fill both roles, though.
combat shotgun my beloved
being a MG player, trying Hel Shotgun on a random A level felt really really bad, it is definitely a sometimes food.
is Combat Shotgun a pretty versatile weapon?
dunno maybe i am using the combat shotgun wrong but its so a$$
most are good choices, personally i'd say to avoid the bullpup rifle and precision rifle for harder levels
CS is somewhat difficult to play
it has 69 total ammo š
but it's super potent.
dunno i run hel shotty almost every lvl even on e1
Its eco is a little ridiculous rn, it's the most efficient special in the game for strikers.
Its one-tap range is also surprisingly long.
hmm worth practicing with, i really need to try changing up my play style, i always want to play as a portable sentry
hmm a friend of mine said just aim for the head around the range they start licking you and its one hit but dunno it sometimes is sometimes isnt even when full on head
it's a bit awkward because it has a duckbill so it's horizontal spread
hmm interesting maybe i should try it out more
I tend to prefer CS in specific scenarios over others, personally. R4B1 and R4B2 come to mind. Lots of close angles or twists and turns to deal with.
The aim on it is a bit precise since you're aiming a cone and not a single point. It's not even that bad if you have to two-tap, though, that's the thing. It just turns into pump shotgun on demand.
Combat shotgun is super good, yeah
but spamming it out to stop waves in their tracks while getting 2 taps (with occasional 1 and 3 taps) is rly good
between having the ability to 1 tap, stagger a fair amount of enemies, and all that stuff
imo (hel shotty aside) the best close range defensive weapon rn
veruta being 2nd imo
i love me some hel shotty/combat shotty dual loadout at times
very fun to stop a surge
All of the strongest Specials in general are able to do a lot situationally.
CS gives you options, MGs give you options.
4 I reckon
4 exactly
3 for main objective and 4th for?...
4th cell is for secondary or resource zone past main bulkhead. having to choose being the tension
nah, just made an oopsie, no big deal
Hey, is there a good place to learn as a new player what rundowns are ? Me and my buddy heard they rotate with time or something but it's quite hard to get a grasp around, lots of arbitrary terminology with no explanations in-game
Thanks in advance
that's gone mate
they went back on that
we are currently in "re-release" phase of the game
let's start from the top
i got this i got a copy paste
soo this game used to work like fortnite seasons
when Rundown 2 came out, it replaced Rundown 1, Rundown 3 replaced Rundown 2 and so on, everytime a new rundown came the old one got eliminated
on Rundown 7 tho, the devs decided to bring the old rundowns back, and they did it the ALT://Rundowns, the old rundowns but slightly changed and optimized
and so next up they need to release ALT://Rundown 5
A "rundown" is a set of missions
The ALT:// Rundowns are reprisals of old missions
you can currently play ALT:// Rundowns 1-4, and Rundown 7
We will receie ALT:// Rundowns 5 and 6, and then receive Rundown 8
mind if i appropriate this?
u go and plagiarize it :D
Thanks guys
dont forget to make it so if you read the first letter of each sentence it will say āspear is badā
oh :(
quick questions, can bots aggro mobs xD?
very rarely, usually no
No. They are completely invisible to mobs for the most part. They can bump into them and even shoot guns on top of their heads and it does nothing.
The only condition in which they can wake up something is if they open fire and accidentally hit something else.
they can also set off spitters which can wake things up as well
Sigh.
No, they don't. Spitters are incapable of waking up things. Thankfully.
So Rundowns used to work like Fortnite seasons. Previous rundowns got removed when a new one came out. Even some weapons got removed when rundowns changed. After Rundown 7 however they reversed that. Released after R7 was ALT://R1. Instead of removing the previous rundown this ALT only added to the game. Some changes are made to these ALTs. But they are mostly remasters of the old rundowns. And they just came out with ALT R4 so now we are waiting on ALT R5. Don't play spear.
i didn't know bots could set off spitters, that feels wrong tho
oh my god
wait is spear bad ?
cuz I'm using it rn KEKW

Finally you are becoming based
some progress is progress
It very unfortunately is. Hammer is just a superior option in every way that matters.
One day slendo will be speedrunning
We can make it happen
Make one more toxic gtfo chatter
It is perfectly useable but the game slows down a lot and you donāt have the most options once shit hits the fan
If spear didnāt use stamina to charge it would be better
Compared to hammer spear has:
- Extra attack range
- SLIGHTLY more damage on headshots
- Lower bodyshot damage
- Lower stagger
- You can't spring while charging it (Spear is the only weapon to have that downside)
- It is currently the ONLY melee weapon that consumes stamina on shove attack
Bat and hammer consume stam on shove
Knife doesnāt
I swear to god Darkeva tested it and confiredm that spear is the only one to do that
Unless devs changed it
It has a slightly faster charge than the sledgehammer (like 0.05s faster)
0.0 .125 .5 .5
They donāt reset stam cooldown
But they all share that trait
Just like light hit doesnāt cost or reset cooldown
Anyway.
Basically hammer can: sprint while charging AND it oneshots biters on fully charged hit no matter where.
Spear will require a headshot or backstab, enemy will survive a frontal body stab otherwise.
Hammer can also stunlock people by spamming light attacks.
Bat (Kovac Peacekeeper) is basically 2nd best melee. Its basically smaller hammer.
And knife is... Something somethihg stealth extra damage? Literally an anti-small stealth weapon. You can go on mad killstreaks with that thing.
But the second you find a big boy - you're in trouble. You'll have to call your big brothers for help, or just reach for the gun.
honestly, don't worry about it until you got a few scout melee kills under you belt, then after that, try switching to hammer. hammer has the highest skill ceiling by a big enough margin that you should practice with it
oh yeah the fucking scouts
worst of the worst lol
we just failed a rundown due to foggy rooms :C
you basically can't see shit
I remember playing a few months ago, you could remove the fog through a command or smth
but no sight of that in that mission
so I guess we just have to deal with it
scouts is the one thing spear is kinda good for - the attack hitbox is reliable and the chance of missing and hitting the thing anywhere but head is lower
aight
i'ma be that guy
and this is just pedantics
but rundowns are sets of levels
an individual level isn't a rundown, it's an expedition
lmao
i didn't care until you said that second part
That depends on a mission from mission. Some missions are kind enough to provide terminals with commands for air filtration.
Majority provide you with either deployable Fog Repellers or Fog Turbines (needs to be carried by someone).
Some very edgy levels don't provide you with anything, have fun with no eyesight
senpai
does IIx syringe amplify environmental damage
i would assume so
i dont think it does
well it takes 3 fully charged hammer swings to break down a door right? if it does affect environmental damage you should be able to break down a door with 1 swing
yes
Gorlami
i read this as salami
Guys, if I list all items within a zone, and it shows me both a locker and for example, an ammopack, does it mean there are 2 different things in the room, or will the ammopack be in the locker even though it's listed seperately ?
asking cuz I got a list of lockers and supplies
everything has a seperate tracker
and dunno if I should look at the lockers
the supplies can be -in- the lockers
if you list a zone and ONLY get boxes/lockers, they don't contain any packs but might have tools like glowsticks or c-foams that the computers don't track
yeah
aight thanks mate
unless you're trying to track down a locker that had a c-foam grenade or something, and you don't remember exactly where it is
if i want u can also LIST RESOURCES/RES ZONE_ZZZ
to make it so only ammo medi n tool appears
spear is the only weapon i will gamble with a melee on a slope/stairs.
Checkpoints introduced since R6
yeah but I thought they touched up the rundowns when reintroducing them
oh well
skill issue

They have touched them up, but they said something about not adding checkpoints to levels that didn't already have them
Don't need checkpoints anyway since they're so short
R7 makes sense because they're longer, and if you're still opposed to use them you're encouraged to not use them in fact
are there any guides on beating R1C1? we have been stuck on wit for about 7 attempts now.
dont remember the exact names of each weapon but...
P1: DMR / Heavy assault rifle / Bio Tracker / Sledge
P2: Burst rifle* / Precision Rifle / Auto Turret / Sledge
P3: ??? / ??? / Burst turret / Knife
P4: ??? / ??? / Burst Turret / Sledge
We set up in the hallway before reactor, 2 sentries on the right and one on the left, 2 people to a side.
We make it to wave 7/8 and then completely run out of tool ammo / health
We might drop the bio tracker next time but then thats more tool refills we need to use
I'll get the names of the other 2 when they get back
none of the sentries you brought benefit from bio symbiosis, if you bring 2 sniper sentries + 1 burst you will get a lot more tool efficiency out of them
DMR/Heavy assault rifle aināt great guns for the situation.
Not ammo efficient not great at hoarde clear
and if you hold one room out, the room with the bridge with the hole in the wall, you are closer to resources, still close enough to make it to the terminal to input the command, and dont have to hold 2 sides
Try staggering turrets as well. Donāt drop all 3 round one
what weapon combos do you recommended?
For me personally, Iād be going Caribine, and machine gun
Bullpup precision
dmr/hevy assault is fine as long as you arent missing all your shots
but something to deal with the giants and hybrids would be nice
hehe about that, but i never ran out of ammo
hevy assault rifle just feels like a worse machine gun idk
the main drawbacks of those guns is ammo efficiency otherwise they are strong
^^
cool i'll write all this down š
2 sniper + 1 burst + bio was exactly what I did to complete R1 C1 as well
2 sniepr + shotgun sentry might be better now after the shotgun sentry buff
im not sure though
If your feeling spicy you can also have one player run near the front at the start to have the wave spawn directly behind them. Delaying it a decent 20 secs
it can result in a down, but if it works itās nice
shotgun sentry is good if you need it to stop something in exchange for insane tool cost
With the sight lines it will just make a heavy ammo/tool imbalance
on a reactor*
imo all of 3 burst to 2 sniper 1 burst works
Tho id probably recommend 1 sniper, 2 burst after sniper sentry nerf
there are spots on r1c1 where it would have very short sightlines
yeah (like the hole) but the tool cost probably isnt worth the increased stopping power
you dont want to delay the waves. Reactors always spawn the full wave
Also why i wouldnt recommend stagger weapons (that arent meant to kill)
he meant stagger them like dont place them next to each other or at the same time
not staggering (autosentry) turrets
Only if auto sentry can target multiple as once
hel autosentry next patch?
At least it could do its job properly
oh mb 
š
am stoopid
If I wanted stagger weapons
hel pp, auto sentry r1c1 only
True
Itās all great until you see something bigger than a scout
Can it?
yep
Knife has precision multis
as long as enemy is asleep
One shot a giant head shot?
occi with iix yep
Bat does highest stagger tho, essentially every swing stuns
I struggle to switch off hammer
it doesnt even do that (unless you mean light stagger)
yeah that
light stagger bat has the best (doing 15 stagger from 3 dmg)
Hammer lights stagger pretty good to
charged hammer does 100 (from 20 dmg) while bat does 60
is ok
yea nah you wont be able to solo a giant when tapping it with a hammer
while keeping it staggered
hammer charges fast enough to keep giants permastunned so long as you target unbroken limbs
For the bonkies
until game decided you broke 4 so now you cant do it anymore
only with back dmg
hitting back breaks head also
more like neck
and iirc that makes an invisible unbreakable head
@past mesa you know more about this than i do
yes
I just wish there heads wouldnāt pop xd
what do u mean "gun switch but gun still aim"
Do you mean shoot right away after switch
yes
ads cancelling
how to do that?
you left click
just left click?
normally theres a slight delay between when you pull out your weapon and when you can shoot. you can shorten this delay by adsing (right clicking) after you pull out your gun

do u use scroll wheel on the mouse or u press the number to change guns?
i use shove
so for hel revolver, the sequence i press is r -> c -> 2 -> right click -> shoot
this is harder than i expect
Also depends on what you want to do you can switch to another gun to use that one's ammo or do what Ryk does to continue fast use of the one you're already using
especially im not use to pressing number to change weapon
Reload into shove then back to gun is the fast iirc
i used to reload cancel by scrolling down then up again that was quite tedious
Switching to other equipment is slightly slower
also, how do u manage statima while in combat state?
dont jump, walk around corners when you can
also if you dont have any terrain you can use and you are out of stam, just turn around and walk backwards, some enemies will get intimidated and you can just shoot to stagger the ones that run up to attack while you regen stam
thanks alot
to remember
Sprinting, jumping and doing any kind of charged melee hit (not knife) stops your stamina from regenerating
Oh and shoving with spear 
so i just need to be efficent with my pathing and no excess runnong right?
that sound hard enough
also try to not go above 145 if you care about going fast
So, what's general consensus on buffed shotgun sentry?
In my experience it seems to finally work somewhat properly, especially with bioping.
I can trust that thing with my life.
...
Until i take a wrong step and receive a shell up the ass.
It kinda works. still sucks tool as hard as a Mountain goat
dont trust the sentry
it is evil
uhhh guys how do they get the orange colour of HF Pather 90?
the black is not good looking to me
There's a color setting option when you select the mask
Advice: ignore Beep and D1 creep face guy. They always say something insane.
Are we talking about the new gasmask? The one you receive from beating the whole rundown?
... Then you can't. The orange tiger variant was an event exclusive reward during the year of the tiger back in R6. Unless they bring it back - you'll never get it.
For what it's worth I think the tigris variant is edgy as hell and I can't stand it.
Is the hsu pod alarm infinite or just really long?
Which one of the many
there are error alarms you cannot turn off
Some alarms are indeed infinite. Run for your life, shoot everything that moves (except teammates, unless they bunny hop).
The pod on R1A1
Infinite then. Run.
it is infinite once u pick it up
There's no pick ups in R1A1, you scan near an HSU
u pick up a dna sample u plateface
Me confused
hehee
shoot ur teammate hmm
copy that
Security clearance for section B needed. DNA sample will suffice.
u go to the hsu to pick a dna sample
Technically I guess? You don't actually carry it in your hands.
you just put it in your jacket pocket its not very heavy
DNA is really small its even smaller than a glowstick
Unless I forgot
no u dont grab it like a cell but u pick it up
Semantics then.
dna sample is store in glass vial
really delicate glass vial
with 1 bullet shot in the butt
hehee
if a sleeper breaks your vial you should have to go back and get another one
What the heck man
Why does no one ignore gerz
She should not be exempt from lists
She is very toxic and trolls all my c2s
Spawns birthers and squidbosses! Lagging the server!
Considering all I see is a legit lfg message...
STOP ENABLING HER TOXICITY
She was running hel autopistol on c2
You cant do that
Not within my power, sorry.
Please continue šµ
You cant solace anime tea me
(I couldn't find a better representation of toxic substance than green soup)
Beep begs me all day to carry him through c2 pabulum
he sends me 10 minute voice messages of him sobbing
She is too busy carrying sea of thieves matches
I cannot believe this
Artek losing it
What the fuck
don't even start, you know exactly what you've done
hey guys
(I'm actually lmao right now)
(I'm gonna be fired at any second now)
hey
can I please get an R4E1 carry
no
Australian š¤¢
dont ask beth
š
mountainman is just jealous
You guys play r4e1 downunda
she was spawning 4 use tool and consumable tripmine
you can't do that!
Heās hardstuck c2 pabulum
Spawning the boss striker
Iām just the pitski upgrade
C2 parabellum
Crashing my game
she was lagging the server
how do I beat R4A3
R4usetool
I need to use my res/med/supply efficiency booster to beat it
Heroic heart
im kidding I finished everything now I uninstall until R5 in novemeber
Hi hectare
acre
hop on c2 pabulum
Why does your steam discord link list your dota 2 items
beep can I ask you a serious question
idk
its weord
i;ve never played dota 2
I've played alot of tf2 but it doesnt list those
so idk
TF2 deez nutz
No
what is your main (important)
rn sniperš most of my hours are on soldier/demo tho, and I'm pretty good at everything except spy
been playing since 2013
why would you ever play sniper
Sniper main š«µš

He's Australian
idk man getting accused of cheating is pretty ego inflating
Has it happened to you yet
several times
you might be the worst person I have ever met
Then why can't you beat r4e1
I don't know who that is
the legend
hes from fallout new vegas
johnny be good tanked full infection to deliver us from evil
What are your thoughts on the design choices of the precision rifle
stfu sniper main
š
itās the impossible level
Yes
i dID pE bY dOiNG oVeRloAD fIrST
we need your opinion on the precision rifle
they need ur opinion on the precision rifle
are you not a precision rifle expert
Looking for your opinion on the precision rifle
what would you think about it if you did
You literally posted a r4 alt screenshot a week ago
Feel like your withholding your valuable info
@lusty bramble why are you harassing community members
šøš¬
you literally called him a stinky poo poo head
totally uncalled for
artek was right, beep always saying something insane
Itās true
maybe he wouldnāt be so insane if people would teach him how to use the precision rifle
itās always been his life goal
His dream
I already showed him tho
But because he canāt use it he has to be a shotgun user
Youāre bad
no, I just showed him how to switch to the shotgun
Then youāre part of the problem
you know youāre crushing his dreams like
Breaking his heart
I had to
he was spawning hunter choppers and bouncy balls
and it was lagging the server
He was just trying to have fun
he was abusing admin privelages
This channel be called #gtfo-related-questions and yet it feels like I'm reading General.2...
No respect for bureaucracy around here š
what do you think about the hel shotgun @arctic marten
Do you think the sight helps you miss your shots?
I've got you in my sights
I love the pushups emote
it's really annoying having half my screen covered
It goes away
wha
we cant see the image but i guess its liquid bug right
it should fix itself after 5 minutes
idk is it a FOV problem or what but what ever i do it just wont go away
pretty much my equipment and literally everything that is attached to me just clipped right through my camera
like my hand is floating waaaaaaaaay out of place when i hold my melee
aight hope that will help
oh yeeeeeeeeeeah it is lol
thanks
so SMC cut model I is the problem
Yes. New apparel was undercooked - they forgot some scripts. They will fix it next patch.
aight so it's all good now let's just hope there won't be anymore bugged clothing in the future lol
There will be, don't you worry :^)
hello everybody
Hello again. Need something?
no
he's so real for that
What's the proper way to type that I'm brand new and lookin' for a group? "LFG Brand New(No Unlocks Yet) doesn't seem to get any bites.
say "lfg I have 1k hrs in the game and have cleared every level solo"
2k hrs*
even better
Link your discord voice chat level you are playing and lobby code
That was all greek to me.
yeah it is usually
LFG [level] [vc chat link] [lobby code]
Are you in a voice chat
no
alright. Joined one. What's level?
On the discord voice chat there will be a little plus person thing
That is the link to the voice chat
The expedition/mission/level you're going to host
Pretty much what your playing
ah
So r1a1 is the first level of the game
If its A1 from rundown 1, it would be R1A1
You can probs start with that or
For some reason I was thinking level as in like operator rank or something
So if you type the voice chat your in and the level you want to do it will probably get players
So lfg VC 32 r1a1
are there any levels or level groups people tend to stay away from/play the most?
Yes but for now you need to start at the a teir levels
You will not enjoy yourself in anything higher tbh
doesn't look like it'd let me play anything else until I completed all the tier 1 stuff
So say people join my discord channel, how do we match up in-game? Just queue for the same level through the in-game matchmaking?
no
they can join you with the lobby code you post
They will show you how to do that in voice
Dw
okay. And do I need to be a certain level in the discord before I can see other lfg channels? Beginner is all that's available to me
Umm idk tbh didnāt go through the new on-boarding system
not entirely sure either, too OG myself
Scroll to the top of the channel list
uhhh you Have to go to the very top of the channels list to Channels and roles, and you either have to unselect all of the interests, or select all of the interests
There should be a roles and channels menu or something idk
If you leave some unselected, they will not show up for you at all in anyway no matter what
Click onto it and scroll into there, it's a funny thing
Is there any main at the moment capable of oneshoting a scout?
Under realistic condistions of course.
No stabbing the barrel down scout's throat.
I think hel shotgun is the only one that would have the damage to one shot without boosters, but I'm not sure
is inserting the barrel into the scouts mouth not realistic?
there was a couple, someone else listed it out
most reliable main scout kill is probably dmr double occiput shot, but that's not one shot
What about auto pp
Can it kill
Tips for R2D2? (I hate reactor missions)
shoot the bad guys and don't let the bots take your ammo
The bots are more ammo efficient than I am š„“
I never played much of OG R4/R5. Which was harder?
all I can really suggest is to take sentries + bio, know where you're going, and don't fuck up
I think my problem is that I am putting down triple sentries and running out of tool ammo very quickly
defending north or South of the reactor puts your back to a wall, but means nothing is sneaking ip behind you
take a 4th sentry
yeah you definitely don't need 3 sentries down all the time
or yeah take a 4th sentry to effectively have more tool ammo
š§
Each time I run out of tool ammo and we immediately get overrun
I thought we were getting overrun because I wasn't using sniper to get rid of bigs
But that wasn't it š
its aprox. 2 additional tool uses, big gains
try 4 auto sentries because they have the most bullets
But the bots cheat with bio track š
u should run sniper sentries, they dont use any tool
well if you need cheats to win a mission then you shouldn't be playing
and stagger is good for big waves, gives the bots more time to shoot
i found out this cool new trick where you can save resources by knifing the waves
autosentry is š
i can highly recommend
quadro auto sentry
might only work with the flame buff tho
they dont waste ammo and your bullpup has time to reload
yes, iam insane, thank for asking
This works great until the bots run with you and melee standing still, ultimately getting absolutely fricked
And then as soon as one takes damage they all immediately start healing each other in the middle of the wave
how did you clear r4d1 again
What is we knifed all reactor waveās together
š„ŗ
I used pmother skip by backwards bhop through the zone door
ngl I'd love to try levels knives only with 4 lunatics
r5c1 knives only lets go
what could possibly go wrong
What is precision damage?
Headshot dmg
Guessing it stacks with the enemy headshot multiplier
Yeah
yeah, precision damage is a result of the base damage, precision multiplier of the gun, and the headshot multiplier of the enemy
dmg x precision multiplier x headshot multiplier
- base dmg
For the total dmg
I wouldn't do R2D2 with 3 bots, it's doable, but annoying coz you have to do all the looting and running back and forth. In terms of tools, 3 sniper sentries and one bio is no brainer. Sniper sentries one shot hybrids and chip big strikers heavily and they benefit from bot bio as well which is OP. Defend in 196 closing east/west door and leave mid open, place sentries accordingly
Leave every single box and locker in the reactor closed until you actually need it.
Pulling rooms for speed is probably the play much of the time.
R2d2 with bots sounds miserable
You underestimate my ability to have fun playing GTFO
(Except reactor missions, FUCK reactor missions they can eat my booty)
Well
I didn't think it was too bad, tbh.
The worst part was just that I dislike bots in general.
Common 'has friends to play video games with' L
Why are Bots bad?
They're annoying.
They like to hug giants
So they kinda just ruin stealth
Which usually results in 3 corpses in the ground
No
They have no impact on stealth at all.
Bots don't interact with stealth mechanics
They sometimes help, even accidentally.
So how are they annoying
The use resources without thought
The donāt make progress unless your their
They will die to get rezes
You'll be at 78% health and 2 bots will give you health pack charges simultaneously, wasting charges
They follow you around, they consume resources in a weird way, they block shots at times, etc.
I just don't like them.
they switch between Melee and ranged seemingly at random at the worst times
They bait out giant melee
Donāt get in scans
Honestly actually
Pubs are a lot like bots
Bot pros: They cheat with the bioscanner and have extremely good ammo efficiency with the right weapons
bot cons: suicide
Some pubs are a lot like bots, that is true.
How do they cheat with the bio?
They just ping everything on map
Especially if you get 3 people that are moving around as a blob.
They ping with perfect efficiency
the player bioscanner ping is directional, the bot's ping is every direction

Name one thing pubs do that bots canāt
Even things that arenāt red?
Fuck up stealth
AIM 
they're cool down as faster, their skin itself is faster, and the skin 360 instead of a cone
(Bots will never be able to properly use any weapon except full auto weapons)
surprise you, in the good or bad way
complain about shitting their pants for 15 minutes, just ask Rayalot
I was in the mother room on r7d1 and called a bot 3 rooms away from another player to me to pick up a resource
and the mfer walked through like 7 walls
damn, i stand corrected
Actually bots are better Ray
They can kite snatchers
When the pub Scattergun fires two shots at a giant and it still doesn't die.
Man, I dunno.
In my defense, the question was what can pubs do, not what they will do š
bot bioscan is cracked, it's like having perma wallhacks
Can the bots can ping sleeping enemies too?
If they have been c foamed ??
No, but they call out how big a group of slippers is
BOLLOCKS
crowd, biiiiig
WE JUST WALKED RIGHT INTO THA SHITT
bots are immune to snatchers, I've seen bishop soloed 10+ snatchers while the rest of the team sat at a cheese spot in R7D1
was, "you fellas are about to die" not a specific enough number for you?
I agree bots are to overpowered
Cut the cryptic bullshit
Need to be nerfed for the true gtfo experience
Ngl, when that could mean 10 guys or 3...
This is the one bot L, I think.
What Are YouTalkinAbout??
Smokes if ya got 'em,
The voice lines wheat
My motion scanner says you fellas are about to die.
well, the scanner is working
Something something more monsters, the scanners really pissing me off
what does bot Woods say?
I love trolling
I'm sad that I don't often get to hear the bots reload from an empty mag
Does anyone have a recording of Bishop saying "Quit fucking whining. mocking sounds imitating whining"
kinda wild how many voicelines they took out throughout development
Oh my God is that actually it
That doesn't sound like him D:
Maybe it's just because there's no filter
removing content since alpha 
ah that is GTFO
Do you guys think Heavy Rifle's description of "medium to long range" still fair?
Hel gun is described as "medium range" and it out-ranged HAR, so no
yeah, that's my thoughts too... Ever since nerfs its basically close-to-medium range more like. You spray at close, you tap at mid... I guess you can try tapping at long, but really - might as well just get closer
i swear i heard this af ew days ago
there are rare dialogues that happen
ever since r4 came out i've heard hackett start saying "nothing here but us chickens" with the biotracker
he always said that

What is artifact heat and how does it work?
Thank you
Does anyone know what the Audio buffer in R3C1 does? I believe its in zone 10
It's not limited to R3C1. I think I heard someone say once that it means the terminal has an audio log on it.
Thoughts on auto sentry vs burst?
auto sentry and burst arent really comparable
auto sentry has big stagger
Auto sentry is purely for stagger
its made for trickilin down enemies from a wave and not really doin dmg
Burst sentry is more or less a solid sentry for any purpose
Tysm
The auto sentry will deal an entire 0.71 damage or so (I don't think they changed that) while burst sentry will deal 2.01 each shot
The auto sentry does do like 8x stagger damage, which is nice, but you're probably better off with a burst sentry
Especially because the auto sentry constantly shooting but rarely killing anything will make it burn through tool refills
Especially cause killing sleepers is just staggering them for a longer time.
Yeah I've never actually seen the end of that stagger animation
this may be a dumb question, but what does it mean when it says ive completed "main" on a stage but not "secondary" or "overload"? I'm very new, only done one stage. if this is on a wiki page somewhere I can go read that, but it didnt come up on google lol so links appreciated
so in a missions theres always the Main objective, but there could [not always] be a Secondary objective, an aditional mission to put it in a simple way
there could also be a terciary mission! another optional missions called Overload
they only appear currently in rundown 4 and 7, so if ur startin out u dont have to worry about em
but basically they are just extra stuff u can do on a level, they give more difficulty since they make the level harder or longer or somethin
hi everyone quick question can knife one hit kill a scout ?
okay cool. Thank you! I assume its obvious when these are present? like you get the same MSGCAT message as a main objective
thoughts on burst vs sniper?
it can it the back of the head, but its a bit hard to pull off
i see i thought someone was using hack @.@
thanks
sniper is a lot, slower, it has way more dmg and can oneshot smalls, but generally needs long corridors and a biotracker to really be worth
burst even if it doesnt have a lot of range n stuff it does good dmg to smols, even if it does struggle a bit on big ones
both are good, burst is generally just more useful cause
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there isnt a lot of levels where u get long range or a lot of big guys to do dmg
ah uh pls report em to @uneven gulch with all the details if u would b so kind
and if u can get proof itll b appreciated
sure thanks for the detail, that why i want to ask first is it possible
Will there ever be another chance to grab Onyx Corruption?
probably, no
Unless they duck up again
GTFO has the weirdest method of FOMO items
most limited time cosmetics are just reskins anyways
Just need to play a1 during the special week
shame I didnt own this game when they had that commando set
feels like the kind of unlock they'd have for getting all PE's in a rundown but nope. random week
i'm sure it'll bring the player count up!!!
Random week is so cool tho
discord or gtfo
Both
hmmmmm
gtfo has been uninstalled
lol
15m is long range in practice in gtfo, so more-or-less yes
recoil can be a mitigating factor in range, but current har recoil feels like more of a skill issue than a meaningful range impediment
you can tap it pretty fast at any range
theres not many spots where going full auto is necessary
I probably only feel the need to spray into bigs or hordes at range with har anyway, both of which make for large targets that are easy to spray into
to the point about hel gun, game can say whatever the hell it wants, but its dropoff starts at 15m and in practice it's highly effective at long range
the in game stuff is overall just kinda
not good?
its WAY too generalized and range in literally every game is always dumb
ok so
i picked up cargo for the first mission in rundown 2
and i cant put it down or hand it to someone else
how the heck do i get the second one to the scan if i cant drop this one??
oh u hold F
hold f to pay respect
hold F to yeet the baby
rebinding keys 
I'm now wondering if lefties rebind left and right clicks
probably not
ew woke lefties are here??
Okay, so serious question: did Rundown 7's non-main sectors actually grant cosmetics or not? And, if so, does anyone remember how unlocks worked for non-main sectors in R7?
I've found out how R6's unlock system worked (with a total of 60 cosmetic unlocks counting the current R7 system (one for each main iirc) and all of R6 under the old system). However, if R7 worked on a 'cosmetic for each main and non-main sector' thing, that brings the current cosmetic unlock opportunity count to 68 - which poses a bit of a problem, seeing as the current expanded random drop pool (as of now) only has enough cosmetics for 61 ~~or 62, depending on the actual status of the Twin Barrel Blade Visor Mark I) unlocks.
so yeah if anyone does remember, mind letting me know? thanks.
they did grant cosmetics previously, but the system was changed when the alt rundowns came out
memory's hazy, but I think it used to be milestones like "complete 3 secondaries" and whatnot
I have found out what the R6 old system was, but not the R7 old system.
There might have been stuff for 2 Secondaries and stuff, but the main unlocks were specific items from a special lab set that were associated w/ all Mains, all Secondaries, and all Overloads.
apparently a number of the past rundowns not having optionals inspired them to change the drip goals to just level completions
doing secondary and overload did grant cosmetics
but when Alt R1 came out they changed their mind
Do you remember what the names of those cosmetics were?
I'll check...
ty (also lmk if they're on https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Apparel or not)
To my knowledge, when they changed the r7 system, they preserved the amount of cosmetics attainable for r7 completions
makes sense (and the numbers would check out if that is the case)
-Storax Kimble Mark I (Mask)
-Kovac Dragonscale Model I (Torso)
-KDS Ray Proto Cage (Backpack)
though thinking about what you might need to do to ensure that, I'm not sure how they managed it
I believe there was always a cosmetic rewards menu, I guess they would've just changed the objectives written in the boxes
dragonscale is definitely in the random drop pool nowadays (I know from experience), so I guess that the KDS ray probably is as well
Is the 61-62 pre-patch or post-patch? Because I believe this issue is at least supposed to be resolved.
current pool is 61-62 (post-patch), assuming that we have everything on the wiki now
For context, the old pool ran out at exactly R4A1.
Ngl, I'm pretty sure this was a cost saving measure.
48 unlock opportunities with that one, 33 (R7-R3) + 15 (R6) checks out
welp, that probably solves it I think
ty
less bespoke reward system coding to write?
P much. They'd have to implement two separate reward systems that work in the current Alt setup.
But it's a lot easier to just scrap the R6 and R7 mechanics in favor of a catch-all "every Main + a full rundown reward).
makes sense
why matchmaking takes so long
use the lfg
Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.
If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.
its much faster
Check the current numbers of players on steam chart and divide it by 2 to remove friend groups, people playing modded and people playing with bots.
Then the rest - all who are lfg in this discord. Finally divide that by the number of missions. That is your answer why matchmaking takes so long
Matchmaking is dead because nobody uses it except new players who are unaware of how dead is.
Local LFG channels is the only way to properly experience this game. Aside from having friends.
Does it make sense to remove my progress for r4 if I didn't get only 2 items?
How much bodyshot damage spear deals again on full charge? 17 or something?
reset, get the two you missed and redo the rundown
I prefer to avoid getting into numberjerk, but I need to know how much boosters I need to unfuck it
use hammer dumbass
why you torture yourself m8 š¦
Im a metaphob
how far you at now in R4?
I hate using "the best" tools. Feels dirty.
Attempted B2, yesterday. Didn't work out.
you'll be glad to hear that on R4E1 PR was actually good
its def not bad
cause you needto run AND charge your shot :/
We put the cells in, had 2 daggers and no biotracker.
ah no, no cells. do ovl THEN plug in all cells at the same time
what he said
but if this becomes the go to? is it then meta for that map? and then @dry pumice suddenly will refuse to use it?
but then use it on other maps cause its out of meta ?
Niche =/= meta.
If it works that one time, but is utter shit all other time compared to some godly jack of all trades who doesn't care either way - then its acceptable.
ok so not going to those lengths
Yes. Just irrational hate for the golden boys.
M16/ak47 pair in CS.
CAR in Titanfall.
Daedalus on Sven in DOTA 2.
Large aoe weapons in warframe (they got nerfed thankfully).
Uh... What else is there...
my dear Ak š¦
Didnāt mention AWP 
Eh
Doesn't work in my hands. Same as titanfall's kraber. They deserved that one.
That's more so me not playing what I can't play to begin with.
My favorite sniper rifle in TF2 is a goddamn Sydney sleeper.
That says it all, really.
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Heavy/Assault cross class with Vengeance torso in Phoenix Point.
...
That's an obscure one.
Sol in Guilty Gear. I never played a fighting game on my life, but I already hate him.
Can the spear still hit multiple enemies?
L
well yes but not like it used to
Too much effort to pull it off. Couldn't do it once.
...
Still worst melee.
Balance be hard.
idk spear is still bae for scouts
And just for chill
Forget SHIFT supremacy - just power walk around with kill after kill. It's cathartic.
I could be 6 drinks in and still have no problem with scouts
Knife for when I am out for blood
Spear for when I am trying to roleplay a walk on a beach
The weapon of the civilised
An elegant weapon for a more civilized age
Hello! Is anyone else having problems connecting with their steam friends in the lobby with the latest update. We've tried inviting and accepting both with the code and by "Invite" in the lobby and even though we get the steam notifications, nothing seems to work : (
hold the cell in your hand and go up to it, you'll get a prompt to enter it
haven't played that level though, might be possible it's like another level where there are a lot of generators and only certain ones are open that you can put them into
we're not getting a prompt to put them in the generator. only to drop them
make sure it's the right generator. some have sealed ports
to indicate you're at the wrong one
yeah wrong ones have a grey covering on the front
appreciate it
you should not be able to put the cell into the incorrect generator.
but bugs can happen, double check the number matches the objective stack just in case
you shouldn't be able to. You should have three for Maine and then the fourth one you either use to complete secondary, or get a resources zone in Maine.
but, if it glitches, unless you put a sell into an incorrect generator, you can soft lock
;-;
Do you know how to use logs
what is that?
It is the way
the only thing i know about logs is smack everything with it
Interesting
That isnāt logs
I am pretty sure void has a vid on it
Then once you understand why we use logs
how do i join the timber clan
is it the speed run logs to prevent rng?
Prevent is a strong word
reduce?
Better
More like determine rng
We donāt change anything in the game just read what the game gives in a text file
is there a joining ritual
Get the wr in r1a1 𤮠or at least join for a lobby attempt
what does this have to do with logs
aka sell your life to rng
which r1a1 wr
It is only a 1/10000 chance
solo, solo logless, full team, something something or other
the one percenters will never let me in their lobby
We post for 4ths quite often
A tier speedruns are all about rng because the skill level require to beat those level is so low that it becomes just about rng
i've just done solo logless restricted, it's not like anyone else is doing it
so therefore I hold the record
Nice
eh kinda, always end up being a bit critical of the run after it's over
i can do r3a2 speedrun
It isnāt just the low skill. it is also they are short
the only way you can really save time is by better rng
or rather, RNG is the biggest time save
again at this point running seeded would be the better way since it would save you more time out of your life
I donāt disagree I donāt run heavy rng levels I just move on to the next
running logless r1a1 I can tell you that I've reset quite often about 1:30 into runs because of H key, and 4:30 into runs because of E HSU
and that defeats the point of what you're going for unless you're specifically wanting to do a seeded run
Go ahead that run is fucked
The fog diving in crazy
ill be spawn zone cell guy
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then find the 10 best seeds and put them in a pool that select one of them randomly. you are searching for those 10 seeds anyway to get WR to begin with. Save yourself 99% of your time

