gtfo-related-questions

[dry pumice]

Sigh. I'll be stuck with Bullpump combo forever don't i

[silver fable]

not true, you could switch main

[neon gust]

i mean if your using back damage then almost every special its a giant killer

you can swap

just have fun

[ocean spindle]

if u want a main special killer prob not bullpup

:]

[past mesa]

Use the invisible head and all mains become giant killers

[silver fable]

yeah almost any special will have like a one second ttk on a giant from behind

[minor fractal]

Choke I'd argue is BC, actually.

BC you need two bursts, which is a poor use of your ammo.

You need some kind of help to get all of the damage through.

[tardy ingot]

2 from the back

oops jish said it mb

but yeah going over it

generally sniper is the best giant killer, after that burst cannon (even if you do only burst cannon its still as efficient as choke/shotgun normally). If you mix in main, it becomes the clear 2nd best

if you add back dmg, then shotgun and combat shotgun lol. Tho burst cannon still gonna do a lot here (choke aswell)

if you have a lot of giants, hel rifle also becomes pretty dominant (even with pierce being a bit wonky vs 3+ giants)

[hidden ridge]

I've read 10-15% on a tech support thread but I've no idea. Out of 6 runs I did it happened twice.

[latent cedar]

What does "U" mean in terminal, when doing "LIST U ZONE_number"

[arctic marten]

"U" is the filter in this case, so the command will only list items in the zone containing a U. This includes resoUrces, which is I think why people do it

[craggy pier]

resoUrces

[latent cedar]

U isn't for resources since RES doesn't display keys, cells and generators

I thought U could be Utility or something

[soft crater]

urinal

<.<

[latent cedar]

[soft crater]

dauda needed to piss aight

[upper ginkgo]

list U is probably for resoUrces and secUrity

so you list all resources, keys, cells, etc.

[latent cedar]

got it

thanks

[full sundial]

Also, instead of typing ZONE_number, you could type E_number, and get the same results. Not important if not speed running, but yeah.

[granite night]

Hey guys, I'm new here and only played for two hours. I will be busy for some weeks and can't play for a while, so I just have a question: How the replayability of this game works? There is not dificulty levels as far as I'm aware, the the first mission has the same layout trough my attempts (just the items change a bit).

So there are extra challanges later or modifiers?

[jagged shore]

small chance of some collisions
but small enough that you usually don't have to worry about it

[turbid horizon]

depends on the level tbh

i replay levels that I enjoy, just depends if you enjoy it

the rundown that I liked replaying the most was R6

[full sundial]

The enemies sleeping positions, items spawn areas, and some objective items, spawn in different locations in the level. The level layout itself is the same each time. There are also optional objectives in R4-R7 expeditions that you arent required to do. That's the only difficulty scaling this game has.

@granite night

[turbid horizon]

also there are some levels that you can actually play differently

R6D1 and R7D1 have optional side objectives in the same layer

those are the most prominent examples

[granite night]

I see, thanks!

[turbid horizon]

however sometimes keys or cells will spawn in different zones causing you to explore a different area, a lot mor elevels have that

[full sundial]

Yeah, that's also true, especially with gather item objectives, where there are 19 total spawned items but you only need to get 10 of them. Then you can do different zones for getting your total of 10 each time you play. Or you can be extra and clear the entire map to get all 19 lol! @granite night

[turbid horizon]

also R7D2 has a choice of fighting different enemy types based on the zone you open but that level is also pretty unique

[granite night]

I see, well I'm not sure how the levels are different from each other (again only player tutorial and first level)

but thanks

[full sundial]

Every level is different, play them and find out!

[jagged shore]

^

[granite night]

I will, its just that I wont be able to play for a while but I want to take out this question of my head lol

[full sundial]

👍

I'm glad they're not removing expeditions from the active pool of missions now, because I don't have as much time as I used to either.

[dusky totem]

is an a-tier PE comparable to a D-tier high only in terms of difficulty

[arctic marten]

I'd compare it more to a C-tier, but the main challenge comes from how long they are imo

[sage knot]

no, a tier PE are just longer but not really that challenging

[turbid horizon]

i raise you blind R5A2

[hidden ridge]

I'd agree but some PE make stuff really longer, case in point R5A3PE and all the backtracking

[steel valley]

idk if one alert mom = r4c3 main tbh

[hidden ridge]

main only r4c3 is more than fine

it's literally 3 alarms?

[steel valley]

ngl

never did main only

so i just imagine it's harder

lmao

[hidden ridge]

1 alarm for key 1 at bk door 1 for fogt

[steel valley]

hm

i'd probably still put it higher for the fog alarms

[icy cave]

that one was cancer

[dry pumice]

Would you advocate for a nerf?

Maybe cut down some rudementaries?

[icy cave]

Of R5A3PE?

[dry pumice]

Yes

[icy cave]

It was not THAT bad

it was just annoying backtracking

[turbid horizon]

i'd advocate for a nerf on the map size

that's it

[icy cave]

Remove a zone, or cut down on rooms

[turbid horizon]

yeah

[icy cave]

After that the level's fine

[hidden ridge]

agree with djdna

[icy cave]

Obviously

[silver beacon]

I'm doing r4a2 right now trying to get prisoner efficiency and we chose to do the secondary objective before overload and we're struggling to find a bulkhead key inside the secondary. On the terminal it says that the only bulkhead key in the map is in the zone which the overload mission is. Does this mean we have to complete overload before the secondary objective in order to get prisoner efficiency?

[ocean spindle]

aham

theres a key to enter the first part of secondary, a key in the bulkeah dc zone to choose between overload and secondary
from there if u wanna do all of em u go to overload, get they key then complete the secondary objective

[silver beacon]

thanks

is that a general rule though where you have to do overload before secondary?

[ocean spindle]

no, it can vary a lot between levels, the general like rule is just querying the bulkhead keys and intuiting in which order u need to do it
sometimes sectors dont even need keys

[minor fractal]

Always check ahead of time.

It's not a hard and fast rule.

[dry pumice]

You can always clear the entire area first then decide.

But mostly just terminal: how many keys, where are they...

[past mesa]

IF YOU DONT know query keys

if there is 5 bulks you can probs do anything at any time

if there is 4 you might be good to do in any order

if there is 3 or 2 you need to pay attention

[late ferry]

is it viable to solo R4A1?

[ocean spindle]

solo bots or solo normal
i remember u but i dont recall which of the two u played

[late ferry]

solo normal

no bot

because i dislike myself and help

[ocean spindle]

main probably, sinc its like r1a1 but i dont think it was so bad [at least from what i remember], but extreme would b hella lot harder

[late ferry]

hmmmm, how hard are the scans

isnt there one scan in main thats kinda brutal?

[ocean spindle]

think it was one class 2 and... two class 3?
the problem is one class 3 bein really close to the class 2

im tryin to remember this lvl so bad

[civic wave]

Depends on skill level, it's already been done before and will be done later too

It shouldn't be anything too extraordinary outside of clearing rooms and holding waves

[ocean spindle]

ok no its 2 class II alamrs and one III

the 2 class II r very close

[civic wave]

Should be fine with a sentry funnel

[ocean spindle]

u can activate em on Channels and Roles on the top of the channel list

its cause ur new i think it restricts it to that one

u can also pick ur pronouns n fav melee from there

its ok

[untold oar]

ok uh, random question and im sorry to butt into conversation, but has anyone tried playing this game on a trackpad instead of a mouse ?

or should i just like. steal a whole mouse for this

i just forgot it at a friend's place augh

[ocean spindle]

i have :]
its pretty bad
i mean its not awful but the thing is u need to move to aim instead of movin ur mouse to aim

cause u cant shoot and scroll at the same time unless ur trackpad is really good

u can try tho

[untold oar]

aaaauuugh

okie, i shall probably steal a mouse

[ocean spindle]

or try with the trackpad if u dont wanna commit crimes :D

if u have a friendo either way u- u can get carried a lil bit

just take somethin that doesnt have lots of recoil

[frank summit]

is there somewhere with a comprehensible breakdown of what one-shots what?

[ocean spindle]

um not really but u can just generally experiment with the guns to figure out
that or go to the wiki for the stats of the guns with the risk of gettin
spoiled

or if u want info on like specifics u can also ask here

[frank summit]

the wiki has damage numbers but has some odd information like how the hel rifle deals 30dmg an can one shot all common schmucks but deals 20 on a precision?

is it normal for guns to deal less damage on the head?

[ocean spindle]

no no, no guns deal less damage on crits
but they have a precision multiplier below one that does lower the extra damage
tho im unsure of what 'precision dmg' means since enemies have different multipliers

basically its
raw dmg x precision mutiplier x enemy weakness multiplier
or somethin among those lines

[turbid horizon]

It is

[ocean spindle]

yay

[turbid horizon]

Normal damage + (normal x pres)

whoops

[atomic copper]

just joined to get a few questions answered 1. Is the precision rifle a good alternative to the sniper. 2. What does tungsten bullets do for the auto sentry. 3. Can a melee weapon one shot a big boi.

[turbid horizon]

Precision rifle does a differnt job

[ocean spindle]

pr is not, cause it doesnt have enough dmg as a sniper and can only oneshots smalls
its a different ramification of precision

[turbid horizon]

No melee can truly oneshot

[ocean spindle]

[big bois]

[turbid horizon]

Precision rifle is meant for picking off small enemies with precise headshots, sniper is meant to be a big boy one shot

Sniper is only matched in it’s raw power by scattergun

[atomic copper]

what about scouts?

[turbid horizon]

Uhhhh

[ocean spindle]

it does kill them

pr kills scouts

[turbid horizon]

Yeah, i’d get used to meleeing them tho

[ocean spindle]

but cause scouts have a big head multiplier and not too much health

[turbid horizon]

They have 42

That’s a lot

[ocean spindle]

also tungsten rounds stagger enemies, which means even tho it doesnt have a lot of damage it stuns enemies a lot more than other sentries
same with the autopistol, it has stagger rounds too

[turbid horizon]

Auto sentry and autopistol are not meant to kill yes, they are meant to crowd control

[atomic copper]

so like to slow them down for the team

[turbid horizon]

Yes

They’re really good for surges

In my opinion

[ocean spindle]

yeah, i use atupistol with bots for example cause im a terrible shooter and so can slow enemies down and let em kill the enemies w/o them gettin close

also they a newie they prob dont know what a surge is dak

[atomic copper]

surges?

[ocean spindle]

told u

dont worry

u will get to em

[turbid horizon]

Very difficult alarm, dw about it

[atomic copper]

like a class 6?

[ocean spindle]

ah u will see u dont need spoils ksks

:D

[turbid horizon]

no, different, dw ab it

[atomic copper]

ah ok thx for the lightning response/answers

[ocean spindle]

its aight
in case u havent, use every gun, test em all to see what u like n what u dont of each one

that way ur more open to options :3

[turbid horizon]

Yeah, every gun is pretty viable rn

[atomic copper]

cool

[soft crater]

[ocean spindle]

they r dont lie to urself

[turbid horizon]

are u referring to burst cannon? Bc it’s usable

[soft crater]

[craggy pier]

How 2 beat r4e1?!?

[upper ginkgo]

get hard carried by johnny

[craggy pier]

fantastic advice thank you kind sir

[rocky dock]

game seems to desync a lot, any of yall experiencing this too?

[atomic copper]

how do i see what country people are playing from in the lfg channel?

[craggy pier]

you don't, have to ask them, generally assume that the channel they're posting in is the region they're hosting from, if you're posting cross region its courteous to post what region you're hosting from

[atomic copper]

nvm im stupid XD thx anyway

[upbeat stirrup]

having a bit of trouble with melee weapons, I really enjoy the consistency of the sledgehammer but it feels slow at times. The knife on the other hand is really quick and fun but it feels rather weak and extremely punishing for missing the head. Is there anything kinda in-between those or should I try to main one or the other?

[hazy chasm]

da long knife is good!

[hidden ridge]

considering spear is even slower (cant run and charge) and you're excluding knife try the bat?

[upbeat stirrup]

sorry I kinda phrased it poorly

[hidden ridge]

I cant really see how you'd consider hammer "slow at times" tbh, just abuse occiput and you can get away with little more than a charge on strikers

and slightly more for shooters I guess

[upbeat stirrup]

wait do those two have different hp values

[hidden ridge]

shooters have more hp

[upbeat stirrup]

huh, good to know

hmm I might stick with the hammer then

thanks!

[hidden ridge]

their heads break up only if they die though

[upbeat stirrup]

the knife is great and I'm not really excluding it but it's kinda tough

not good enough yet

I did try the bat once and it was funky, tho I'm not sure what niche it fits

[cold quarry]

my friend was experiencing this today, and she's never had that issue before. recent patch did it maybe?

[cold quarry]

May I introduce you to the Kovac Peacekeeper Bat

We have: Smash

[amber spindle]

How’d you get a rainbow name in gtfo :0

Saw it yesterday

Guy was a dick tho so I didn’t ask

Oh it’s XML stuff

[tardy ingot]

modded

[craggy pier]

do u remember who it was

[arctic marten]

it was you

[craggy pier]

at first I thought so

but then I checked and I havent played with this guy

I only know of 3 multi coloured names

[arctic marten]

well the mod has over 3k downloads, so you might have a bit of trouble finding out who it is

[craggy pier]

lol

also I havent been a dick recently, the most abrasive thing I've said in the past 48 hours is "you guys are actually throwing" when 2 dudes decided to run face first into a giant after someone else already died to it

[amber spindle]

Nah

[arctic marten]

asshole

[wheat tulip]

can play with mod with others who dont have mods?

[arctic marten]

most mods do

[amber spindle]

Apparently

[craggy pier]

wait no that's a lie, I said "turn ur fuckin light off c*nt" when johnny be good was shining it on sleeping shadow giants in E1

[amber spindle]

Lmao

[hardy grotto]

I have a hunch of who it could be

[arctic marten]

r2 attitude

[amber spindle]

I mean

Tbh I just remembered

Lmao

[craggy pier]

oh no it was me

[arctic marten]

its you isnt it

[amber spindle]

Nah

In game name 0000

[hardy grotto]

Yea

[craggy pier]

no idea

[hardy grotto]

Ik who that is

[amber spindle]

same xd

[arctic marten]

ur alt

[wheat tulip]

yeah 0000 changing color

[amber spindle]

Ye

[craggy pier]

who is it

[amber spindle]

You

[craggy pier]

:o

news to me

[wheat tulip]

not hecate

[hardy grotto]

Heard a few ppl complaining abt him lately, kinda odd

[craggy pier]

ok I know who it is, that guy is well known for being a dickhead to anyone that isnt crazy good at the game

[arctic marten]

a new challenger approaches

[amber spindle]

Joined a beginner player group constantly complained about it being a easy level. Died and left

:/

Good to know lmao

[hardy grotto]

hes always been fine around me but I’ve heard a good few complaints from others

[arctic marten]

i gotta get me in that lobby

[amber spindle]

Just something I’m avoiding in the future xd

[wheat tulip]

that guy also unlocked old hammer, is it through mod?

[craggy pier]

yes

[amber spindle]

Ye

Surprised mods work on unmodded people to tho

Thought it would be client only

[minor fractal]

Certain mods change things that don't affect checksum.

[amber spindle]

Hmh

Tbh it’s the only player who’s generally been a dick I’ve met so far

It’s not to bad

[craggy pier]

most people are pretty chill

[arctic marten]

im chill until i see bullpup rifle

[hardy grotto]

I’m chill until I see hel shotgun

[amber spindle]

I just don’t like shotguns in this game

Pistols and revolvers for life

[hidden ridge]

I'm chill until someone asks where the cell/key/whatever is after I've told them where it is 3 times

I just think some people mute me locally for some reason

[amber spindle]

Tbh it does say in the top left

[arctic marten]

sorry i cant read

[amber spindle]

Sausage

Don’t feed the sleepers

😴

[minor fractal]

Like, fully modded weapons can be implemented in such a way that they're fully functional in vanilla lobbies.

It's a little annoying, actually.

[craggy pier]

THE LONG GUN 🔥🔥🔥

[hidden ridge]

Is that because the devs were trying to get weapon customization and then abandoned the concept?

Cause I've seen Drum mags on Carbine and even the icon ingame changes which surprised me

[amber spindle]

That shouldn’t be a thing

One of my favourite examples of really good mods is Vermintide. Modded realm and unmoddded. Modded realm you can break the game etc, but the devs hand pick certain mods to be sanctioned in Vannilla realm. Stuff which doesn’t effect game play like HUD changes.

[minor fractal]

Basically, as long as you only modify certain parts of the DataBlocks you're using a bunch of common assets that don't fuck w/ the checksum.

Like, you can build a weapon out of a mix of MG, PR, and Shotgun parts, and since those parts aren't modded assets they don't cause issues afaik.

Often you'll see people switch out sights or modify their weapon stats.

It's mega stupid.

[neon gust]

if its in-game stuff you can use it in vanilla game

[amber spindle]

Sights I kinda get

But weapon stats bad

Certain guns ain’t fun to use just cause of a stinky sight

😔

[minor fractal]

Yeah, playing double ammo HEL Shotgun or one-tap body-shot PR is mega stupid.

[amber spindle]

:/

[craggy pier]

I need my 30 dmg 0 recoil burst cannon

[amber spindle]

No :(

[soft crater]

Iirc there's a mod that gives pistol and AR the Veruta Sights

[minor fractal]

That's actually a little funny.

[soft crater]

I liked the design of AR ngl.

I didn't like the top heaviness of the base design

And yeah

Veruta sights on pistol

Looks stupid

Ironically I played with someone who modified PR mag size

[minor fractal]

I am always tempted to play w/ minor balance tweaks.

But there's such a fine line between a minor rebalance and a mega buff to something.

[craggy pier]

combat shotgun needs a buff

[hardy grotto]

Sawed off scattergun heroic heart is the way ray

[minor fractal]

We all know the most based QoL mod is a collection of minor nerfs, though.

[hardy grotto]

Everyday I think about doing it

[verbal zinc]

Disable weapons and tool. Only use STICK!

[craggy pier]

[soft crater]

You may be a fire blade. But where is the FIRE HAMMER

[verbal zinc]

It’s together with all my hopes and dreams for this game. Right next to the R4 ALT skins that I will never have.

[soft crater]

I've been lazy completing r2-r3 ironically

So I got a chest piece from r4

Pretty cool one ngl

[verbal zinc]

Im very happy for you

[soft crater]

Definitely not because my group never got online to play gtfo

Or if they did. They wanted to play other games (definitely r6 siege)

[civic wave]

Oh my god rundown 6

[craggy pier]

scatterfun my beloved (i never used it)

[hidden ridge]

oh I too loved soloing mothers

(I had to try not to make that sentence sound lewd)

[civic wave]

Something something burst cannon, something something shotgun

[past star]

Lf hel shotgun buff because everyone shits on it

[rough creek]

Scattergun go burr

[arctic marten]

faker

[craggy pier]

I’m not real it’s true ;w;

[wheat tulip]

any 1 running gtfo in 3gb graphic memory?

[soft crater]

What.

[lost flame]

What

[turbid horizon]

what

[latent cedar]

what's the generator for in R4C1, zone 72?

[civic wave]

Should be to open the next zone

Which is needed for progression because it has the bulkhead controls and doors, and path to extract

[latent cedar]

hm okay, since 74 requires a key

so it might be some other zone

[lost flame]

You can also query it, listing everything in a zone also shows if it has a reactor

[upper ginkgo]

74 is to get bulkhead key, which spawns in either 75, 76, 77

[civic wave]

^

[lost flame]

If the reactor is in the same zone as you, you can ping it

[civic wave]

Go into 74 and there's 3 blood doors, one of them will have the bulkhead key behind it

[latent cedar]

thanks

playing in a lobby atm, I thought they didn't put it in yet but apparently they did

thanks for the explanation

[ancient dock]

anyone know why some weapons don't reload to full sometimes? i thought it was a weird chambering mechanic (the high-cal being 5+1, not 6 in the mag) but it happens even when not reloading from empty

[cloud fox]

bug

[ocean spindle]

its a problem with the roundin of the % n the mags
happens with dmr n assault rifle

ash said they were lookin at the problem

[ancient dock]

ohh that's annoying

okay thanks!

i was getting a little confused counting down shots in my guns and not having enough lol

[neon jolt]

question about the sentries, bursts seem to be good at clearing hordes, sniper is good for big bois/hybrids, shotguns and autos are good for what exactly?
also which of the primary non-pistol weapons have a high ammo to kills ratio? the burst rifle feels like my favourite out of all of them so far so I was curious

[ocean spindle]

auto sentry is good for staggerin enemies, it slows em down and lets em trickel in slower, its a bit of a niche use for it but well maybe helps in some situations, in some funky alarm that just tries to overwhelm u as fast as possible

[civic wave]

auto is good for staggering enemies, but if your team can shot good (or just uses a burst sentry) it is kinda pointless

shotgun sentry is a bit of an enigma

as for guns, DMR and Hel Revo can both 2 shot strikers (DMR one shots shooters but holds less ammo)

carbine does pretty good damage too, pretty much a more forgiving burst rifle

[neon gust]

Burst its for general use
shotgun its for when you know your placement and use small chokepoints well
Sniper its for long sidelines and more of a powersentry that can deal with most enemies
AUTO its good for stagger, it delays the waves really well and can help you keep fightin 1 wave instead of 2 due to how spawning works , its really good for delaying the giants in a wave so you can just deal with the smalls with no issue

[dry pumice]

Burst: basic b*tch "jack of all trades".
Sniper: enemy remover. It oneshots small guys as well, always. Great for long tunnels where it can spread out the waves.
Shotgun: dominates corners and small doors.
Auto sentry: a supporting stagger sentry that holds chosen targets in place through stunlock. The idea is that it holds the enemy and you kill them yourself. Can also be used to support Shotgun sentry: Auto staggers - Shotgun kills.

[neon gust]

all sentries are useful once you learn to use them

[hidden ridge]

auto can be good for surges?

I think only experience I had trying it recently was R4C2 and it seemed to work fine

[dry pumice]

I did the shotgun supported by 2 autos and it did well. Wonder if 2 shotguns supported by one 1 auto would be better.

[neon jolt]

weird I see alot of old and new guides suggesting either full burst or sniper or a mix, I'm guessing theres not alot of winding close quarter type maps?

[dry pumice]

Yep, some maps are really tight so sniper won't have as much to work with.

[mossy aurora]

If you're having 2 sentries supporting the 3rd, meaning they are all facing the same direction that's a bit overkill

And a waste of tool

[dry pumice]

I mean... Enemies were exclusively coming from 1 door so.

[mossy aurora]

Unless you are swimming in tool, just putting down 2 sentries and shooting the rest is better

[dry pumice]

That was... The GLIP hunt one.

I'm just sick and tired of Cfoam mine meta, so I'm running 3 sentries instead for shits and giggles.

[mossy aurora]

Even for reactors like r2d2 it's a waste to have all 3 sentries down in the beginning when they just come from spawn

[tardy ingot]

cfoam/mine is as much meta as is stacking sentrys

lol

[neon jolt]

I've seen a quite a few instances where you have 1 or 2 sentries on one side of a hold and the rest on the other side either pointed down the corridor that might be connected to it or pointed back towards the general area of the first sentry(s)

[dry pumice]

Either way auto sentry does amazingly at preventing enemies from just swarming you immediately. It slows the process by a notable amount, so it's definetely not useless. But yeah, 2 of them is too much.

Watching 3 of them go brrrrt on a tight tunnel was very fun though. I love their sound.

[neon jolt]

alright then onto the auto rifle question, is there a ""best"" of the non pistol weapons for ammo efficiency?

[dry pumice]

Not sure I understand

Are you asking which main is best?

[neon jolt]

basically yeah but I say ""best"" cause probably obvious reasons

[dry pumice]

Carbine is very strong right now, even after the recent nerf. Brain Dead Man's weapon. Got ammo for days, good hip fire spread and so on.

Not good at range, but then again that's usually what specials are for. Not a lot of long range main options...

The vanilla assault rifle is alright too. Not stupid strong, but reliable.

[neon jolt]

yeah I've taken a very quick liking to the precision rifle and that other one I can't remember the name of but that can 1 tap giants scouts and hybrids

[heady moat]

Sniper rifle?

[dry pumice]

Sniper rifle?...

[ocean spindle]

sniper rifle?......

[dry pumice]

Maybe HEL Rifle but it can't one tap giant even in the back. I tested.

[ocean spindle]

think sniper is the only oneshot currently available

i mean burst cannon but

on the back

[neon jolt]

probably lmao

[dry pumice]

Precision Rifle is alright if you can reliably place headshots.

Current mag to reload ratio is not great though.

It used to have 12 round mag, but got nerfed and now everyone hates it

Still... Cute choice for long range open engagements.

If you can aim with that mess of a scope that is.

[neon jolt]

I dont what I like about it but it just feels nice

[neon gust]

The advantage of pr is the fact that you have to give no shits about anything, visibility , you can just shoot everything on sight

[neon jolt]

even if I miss a decent number of shots every now and then

[heady moat]

also it has that juicy 1.3x precision multiplier

[dry pumice]

It basically oneshot headshots any smalls from a very long range. Ironically the only tning stopping you from hitting those shots is the shitty 240p thermal scope

[tardy ingot]

not worry about anything?
shooter projectiles

[tardy ingot]

its a cool idea, pretty weak tho. Wish theyd make its mag bigger

regarding your "most efficient" questions. In technicality its Hel Shotgun, Hel revolver and machine pistol. But first 2 need pen for that and 3rd is very unreliable to get that efficiency.

Dont have to worry about "efficiency" too much for mains, they are all very similar. Its mostly guns that are a bit lower (dmr and rifle) that could be noteable

[dry pumice]

Your forgot pulpy

[tardy ingot]

hm?

[neon jolt]

the bullpup?

[tardy ingot]

think so, but idk why he mentioned it

[heady moat]

Well, it does have the benefit of never having any awkward non-integer ammo amounts (starts with exactly 200, resupply provides exactly 60, reserve capacity is exactly 304), but then again this is shared by the pistol (100, 30, 153), the HEL Revolver (60, 18, 92), the HEL Rifle, and the Choke Mod Shotgun (both 15, 9, 23), meaning that optimal ammopack usage with these weapons is humanly possible, if a bit tedious.

[dry pumice]

(the ones that are a bit lower)

[tardy ingot]

optimized its average

vs strikers and shooters at least

[dry pumice]

What do you mean by optimised? Not missing a single shot?

[tardy ingot]

headshots into bodyshots to kill perfectly @dry pumice

<@&408548765599793173>

[dry pumice]

On todays topic: people that should face the wall...

[turbid horizon]

Thank you

[soft crater]

[red flax]

I don't quite get the precision multiplier stat that guns have. It seems like it just makes (most) weapons have a multiplier that makes their damage less than if it wasn't there. If a headshot will already boost damage, why unboost the damage with a precision multiplier <1 when the headshot boost could just be lowered?

[mossy aurora]

It's a way for them to control body shot and head shot damage independently

It's precision multiplier * enemy weak point multiplier so you never lose damage by hitting a headshot/weak spot

[tardy ingot]

^

i think the lowest boost is like 10%

[red flax]

Gotcha

And what about stagger damage? Looking at the autopistol on the wiki atm and it has a stagger damage of 5.05, from 1.01. Does this number mean the weapons base damage is 5x more if the enemy is staggered?

[jagged shore]

no

enemies have a stagger health pool

when it depletes, they stagger, then it resets

the stagger health pool i'm pretty sure is usually the same as their normal max health as well

[sturdy glen]

its not

[red flax]

I see, and the only benefit of staggering them is making them not move?

[sturdy glen]

cancels their attack as well

[red flax]

ofc ofc

[sturdy glen]

filling the stagger hp pool causes a soft stagger, theres also hard staggers from limb breaks

which last a lot longer

[jagged shore]

oh wait yeah i forgot bigs have 40 stagger hp

i think?

nvm 20

am dumb

[sturdy glen]

the only enemy that has a matching stagger to its hp is both moms iirc

[jagged shore]

it's on the wiki anyway

[tardy ingot]

its basically the other way around. Most enemys stagger hp is way lower than max hp

[jagged shore]

yeah i was just hella wrong lol

yeah their stagger hp is on their wiki pages

[red flax]

Oh right, about bigs. I saw someone say somewhere that they die on the spot if 3-4 (I forgot) of their limbs are broken, not sure how to confirm this?

[jagged shore]

false

[tardy ingot]

seems to be 40

only bosses have one above 40 iirc

[jagged shore]

if you break i think 4 limbs though you can't break anymore so you lose the ability to hard stagger with limb break

[jagged shore]

wiki says 20, idk

[tardy ingot]

tbf both wiki and spreadsheet have been wrong

its easy to test tho

not that i can rn

[mossy aurora]

You can soft stagger a giant with full charge without limb break so it should be 20?

[jagged shore]

with hammer?

[mossy aurora]

Yes

[jagged shore]

doesn't hammer have x5 full charge stagger multi?

[sturdy glen]

hammer has 5x stagger multi ye

[red flax]

Knowing that breaking X amount of limbs doesn't kill, where should a group of 3 or 4 players all aim when attempting a stealth takedown? My party and I have done 1 spear to occiput, and 1 hammer to each leg (on the assumption it would die when we all attacked). Is there a better way to position ourselves for more consistent results?

[mossy aurora]

Nvm then

[sturdy glen]

back/back of head is all that matters for giants

[jagged shore]

^

[sturdy glen]

if you have all 4 you dont need to bother with other limbs

[red flax]

Does back of leg count as back?

[sturdy glen]

(or 3)

ye

[jagged shore]

people call it back, but it's more flanking

cause directly to the side will also get an increase i'm pretty sure

and it's position based, not location-on-body based

[red flax]

Would there be any issues with a body part exploding and becoming unhittable if multiple people aim for the actual back?

[jagged shore]

shouldn't be

[noble sierra]

Big striker's stagger HP hould be 40

[tardy ingot]

just dont have multiple people aim for the head

[red flax]

Learned that the hard way ^

[sturdy glen]

nah nah

[tardy ingot]

old hammers

[sturdy glen]

get the sweet double occiput hit

[arctic marten]

no, all bigs and hybrids have a stagger hp of 40

[tardy ingot]

?

[mossy aurora]

Is it still a thing where breaking the chest of a giant first prevents other limb breaks

[jagged shore]

how does that contradict what eva said

[tardy ingot]

mountain, read again o.O

[jagged shore]

i believe so

[arctic marten]

i go now

oh

cant say r3tard

[mossy aurora]

The fact that that is a thing is ass

[tardy ingot]

Easiest way is just 3-4 hammers to the back

[noble sierra]

Big flyer is ... technically not a boss and has stagger hp > 40

Snatcher is sorta of a mini boss

[tardy ingot]

oh right, big flyers exist

[arctic marten]

*pouncer

[tardy ingot]

its the most weirdly coded enemy for stagger

shits weird

[winged turtle]

the word flanking is defined by two attackers on opposite sides, and is more misleading than calling it back damage. you're making a good point with a worse word

[latent cedar]

one or two Cfoam nades for normal Mothers?

[noble sierra]

1

[latent cedar]

thanks

[jagged shore]

Where's this definition you have, the ones I'm seeing just indicate attacked from at least one side

[winged turtle]

it was revealed to me in a dream

[jagged shore]

ah, dreams are known to be infallible sources of information, therefore i must yield

[tardy ingot]

was it a dream

or the dream

[jagged shore]

someone needs to update wiki btw, giants do have stagger hp of 40, was 8 autopistol shots

[tardy ingot]

@jagged shore dunno if you have time

but could ya check snatcher vs hel pp on r7e1

(When it rushes at you obviously)

[jagged shore]

don't think it's a time issue, just a skill one

you see, my aim is not very good

[heady moat]

fixed

interestingly, looks like the stagger multiplier page had it correct already

[tardy ingot]

bigger issue is pablo

[jagged shore]

in addition, yes

[tardy ingot]

just wait for snatcher with bio ping on him. Once runs up spam into it

it either staggers in 8 (might be more with armor hits) or needs a ton

[jagged shore]

#gtfo-media message idk if i did remotely well enough but there's quick video for you to see

[tardy ingot]

oh btw, when its running away its impossible to stagger

[jagged shore]

ah icic

[tardy ingot]

also „aiming lower“ is probably a bad call

but the idea would be to get like 10 or more red hit markers

[jagged shore]

will see what i can do

[tardy ingot]

so aiming at belly, or if im not wrong at shoulder area (not head or legs)

[jagged shore]

belly or shoulder? that's probably gonna be hard for me lol but i'll see

[tardy ingot]

yeah, i usually tested it a bunch of times for each setup (when i did raw stagger value with stuff like revo/dmr shots and such)

[jagged shore]

do they have to be while it's charging or does it work while it's standing up as well

[tardy ingot]

standing? You mean when attacking

that works too

[jagged shore]

yeah

then i'm 99% sure i hit enough and it still grabbed

[tardy ingot]

basically, they need to be aggro on a player. When running away/around they are immune

[jagged shore]

really hard to count hitmarkers for some reason lol

[tardy ingot]

that would confirm my theory of it being immune or partially immune to stagger multiplyers

this would fit with the pistol and hammer

but means ill have to retest some stuff

prob not

[arctic marten]

hey thats my theory
and it costs $10 to rent

[tardy ingot]

but i wouldnt be suprised

if it had that all

[tardy ingot]

luckily ive got monopoly dollars

[arctic marten]

yum fake money

im pretty sure its only resistant to melee stagger multipliers, not weapons

unless they messed something up when they added the autopistol back

[jagged shore]

heres another @tardy ingot #gtfo-media message

i'm still down to try again if you want me to, cause i wouldn't be surprised if i'm just not hitting enough

but that one really felt like enough

[arctic marten]

do you require the pause (tm)

[jagged shore]

what is the pause™

[arctic marten]

its where the host freezes the game

used it for testing pouncer stagger a while ago

[tardy ingot]

that would be helpful

[arctic marten]

pause -> client counts shots into pouncer -> unpause to see if it staggers

[tardy ingot]

but from footage it sees like more than 8+ hits with no result

the theory came from me trying pistol and not staggering

[heady moat]

well, the autopistol stagger multiplier is still 5x (damage was nerfed to only 1.01 though)

[arctic marten]

hello devs can we have r7 mono thanks

[tardy ingot]

pistol shold take 7 hits (prob like 8-9 with falloff)

[tardy ingot]

we are taking that into account

[civic wave]

I wonder

I don't think trapping snatcher behind a bugged door would be much help, because I don't remember seeing enemies behind bugged doors stagger

[tardy ingot]

They still should

[civic wave]

well, time to try that then

[jagged shore]

can a snatcher be attacking from behind a closed door

or bugged door ig

[tardy ingot]

uhh, other enemys can. It… should?

honestly id be interested to see how a bugged snatcher behaves

but yeah that prob means its bad to test with

[soft crater]

[winged turtle]

i believe enemies that can get los through the 'cracks in the door' get attacks through, which if there is only one it should be stationary, and as long as you don't move it should be able to 'see' and hit you

[soft crater]

Get a Scout that calls a wave of Snatchers

[winged turtle]

that would be wild

[tropic vine]

Still waiting for a giant scout

[tardy ingot]

@minor fractal snatcher cant stagger when running away. At all

When attacking a player its staggerable

wouldnt be suprised if the dmg thing is the actual solution/reason for how it works

[civic wave]

not sure if the vid I posted helps

[minor fractal]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it has to decide to attack

[tardy ingot]

its a good showcase of snatcher going fu to stagger when passive/running around

[jagged shore]

yeah had the same experience
killed it without it staggering once behind bugged door

[tardy ingot]

but since its not attacking wont stagger even if you shot it with a combat shotgun magazine

[jagged shore]

also pachi in regards to the audio being out of sync, i've had that issue with sending vids on discord too in the past, still dunno why as well

[civic wave]

ok well sitting in a room with a doorbugged snatcher pacifies it

[arctic marten]

new familiar unlocked

[civic wave]

dog

[tardy ingot]

can you pet it ?

[civic wave]

uh kinda? if swinging/shoving is petting it then yea

[arctic marten]

hitting your pet with a sledgehammer is illegal, in case you were unaware

[tardy ingot]

you could point to a box/door and pet it that way

[winged turtle]

woooah, does it have to run through a doorway to switch from escape to aggro?

[civic wave]

I'm not qualified enough to answer this question

but it might be the case

before you run through the door it tends to run all along the door frame

[mild tiger]

are the re-released rundowns not the same maps? I started playing when R4 was released but the current cytology layout looks different from my old footage

[winged turtle]

they are remasters, and when they make the map from scratch a lot of rooms will be kinda different

[dry pumice]

Nope.
They use procedurally generated maps and their way of making alts (supposedly), is to just keep generating it until it kinda looks like the original.
Not sure though.

[vague bridge]

bogosort style?

or do they lay a general blueprint for it

[noble sierra]

Copy the original generated datablock and manually add/modify some fields feel more easy

[craggy pier]

make thermals be able to see through smoke

please

[ocean spindle]

no :3

[craggy pier]

:3

[amber spindle]

:3

[fathom dome]

Anyone know how possible is it to run missions with two people?

[jagged shore]

of course!
is gonna be a fair bit more difficult but it's certainly possible

[amber spindle]

Duoing as 2 experienced players is actually super fun

[fathom dome]

Bout to do with two inexperienced players.

Actually might look for a group.

[sacred dew]

Lies, anything with experienced players are kinda boring. You don't hear screams or shouts anymore, just a bunch of lols

[ocean spindle]

hey, if its lols means its fun

at the end lol is laughing out loud

[solemn flint]

1 question

Do we have a mission object of find the right extraction point out of a lot of extraction point?

[tardy ingot]

nope

[jagged shore]

will have one in r8 i bet

[tardy ingot]

tbf that would either need a random path every time or be incredibly boring to replay

[hidden ridge]

I feel like the code would bork even further with multiple extractions

Hilariously enough, before I started playing, I imagined sectors to work like different path with different extractions rather than another set of objectives to complete

[icy cave]

Imagine people being softlocked cause the intended extraction is not appearing. But you have 3 others where you can't extract

[hidden ridge]

I lost an E1 Extreme try yesterday because the code terminal was not interactable anymore

Game has way too much shit glitches going around already than trying to tamper it further

[icy cave]

GTFO is a perfect game without flaws

[hidden ridge]

I do agree that it's a defeatist consideration but eh, whatever

[hidden ridge]

"big maps with lots of things going on" 😄

[icy cave]

Same description basically tells you why Ark is so f'in buggy yet has so much going for it

[tardy ingot]

when people say gtfo has a lot of bugs that are gamebreaking

ark players wheezing

[amber spindle]

Gtfo has barely any

Compared to some games

[wheat tulip]

How many color keycard are there

Blue, orange, black, white,red, other than this any more?

[soft crater]

[tropic vine]

there is also purple, and yellow. But it also depends on what you mean by keycard (cause in the game files there is gold as well) plus the bulkhead keys

[soft crater]

Ngl

I've never seen gold keycard

Unless that's specific to a certain levels

Or was

[tropic vine]

i wouldn't be surprised if it was for like the beta and was just forgotten about

but its in the files

[amber spindle]

The amount of key cards

You’d think it’s doom

[tropic vine]

doom only has 3

(6 if you count skull keys)

[bleak pecan]

technically 6, there's the skulls also

oh lol

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tropic vine]

XD

eh i guess 7 if you count doom eternals slayer keys

[soft crater]

[amber spindle]

Tbh when ever there is coloured keys I just think doom

[low willow]

you and random forgot green and grey keycards

I'll never forget the weed key I found (green_420)

[turbid horizon]

Yeah my scariest key was KEY_RED_666

[soft crater]

looks at white key and Black keys

[jovial adder]

does it matter which order you do the rundowns in? should I start with R1A1?

[craggy pier]

doesnt matter at all

[low willow]

While you can do them all whenever, I'd say to start with R1 just because it's mechanically the simplest. If you do the more complicated levels first R1 will probably be a little boring

[craggy pier]

u should do all of R1 first then do A levels then B etc

[low willow]

Try changing rundowns whenever you get to a level you're having trouble with to get some more practice.

[turbid horizon]

yeah

[jovial adder]

so, all of R1 > R2A > R3A >R4A etc.?

[heady moat]

R7A1 is more tutorialized, in case you feel stuck

[craggy pier]

leave R4 till last

[turbid horizon]

yeah

[low willow]

R4 is the hardest we've got right now

[craggy pier]

by a significant margin

[jovial adder]

wait...so R5 is easier than R4?

[craggy pier]

no

[low willow]

No, we don't have R5 right now

[craggy pier]

also r5 isnt out yet

[jovial adder]

oh

[low willow]

R4 just recently got added back

[jovial adder]

oh sorry, I just saw it

so R7 is easier than R4?

[craggy pier]

R1>R3>R2>R7>R4 easiest to hardest

[turbid horizon]

R4 came back like less than a week ago

[low willow]

Yes, but it has it's share of difficult levels

[jovial adder]

lol, that's not very intuitive is it?

[latent cedar]

R4D2, Overload or secondary first?

[low willow]

Well it didn't have to be intuitive. There was never supposed to be more than one rundown at a time.

[craggy pier]

nope

[low willow]

For difficulty it was just meant to be tiered. A tier easier than B tier, B easier than C, and so on

But then they decided to start adding back old rundowns and keeping each rundown forever

[turbid horizon]

iirc it's || overload but don't grab the thing ||

[latent cedar]

thanks

[craggy pier]

he's right

[bold atlas]

that was a great three days

now where's r5

:D

[craggy pier]

Can i reset all my progress in gtfo? Rundowns, cosmetics and stuff?

[heady moat]

I don't know if this works or not, but in the settings menu, I think there is a thing that allows you to opt-out of/delete data about yourself collected by Unity, and I suspect that a decent amount of your save data (cosmetics, mission completions, artifacts, boosters) might be stored using that, so it might be worth a shot. (If nothing else, I suppose it'll answer the question of whether or not using that button does that).
but tbf I don't actually know myself

[neon gust]

Contact mod mail

[lusty bramble]

Can I ask community Calle to reset my rundown 4 progress

[heady moat]

idk can u

[lusty bramble]

🥹

[bold atlas]

Its MAY I ask community Calle to reset my rundown 4 progress

[fierce nebula]

shits on the desk

[tropic vine]

oh yea

[primal wind]

Hi Guys, quite a new player but i've been really tryharding the game since R6, i have some issues with my mates on ALT R2E1 on the last segment of the level, is there pro gtfo player that would be available to answer some of my question ? 🙂 i'm not asking directly in this wall because not sure about the spoiler policy

[forest nebula]

hey guys i just bought the game but no matter what i do to join my friends for some reason we can't start the lobby because of me

[arctic marten]

idk if i count as a pro, but I know the level well enough so im happy to answer

[heady moat]

have you all pressed 'ready' and then has the host pressed the big red button to start the expedition

[forest nebula]

he can't ready up as it just resets

[heady moat]

did they hold the ready button

[forest nebula]

if i leave the lobby my two other friends ready up normally

[forest nebula]

Yea they played the game for few times

[latent obsidian]

is your version number in the bottom right the same as theirs?

[forest nebula]

Am the only one having this issue when i join their lobby it just get glitchy

[heady moat]

(sounds like it might be a #1049599987878723635 question tbh)

[forest nebula]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jhcthl0AlQ&t=2s

am getting the same issue as that.

[heady moat]

So this sort of thing? https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/1065667802431754291

[forest nebula]

yeah

[heady moat]

I'd suggest doing what Calle said to do in that thread.

[forest nebula]

ok ty ❤️

[neon gust]

150000000 hours only

[signal radish]

well i don't think human can live that long

[arctic marten]

damn

i only got 130089328 hours

[signal radish]

wuuuuu cool

[craggy pier]

Why can’t thermals see through smoke

Or fog I guess

[ocean spindle]

cause they were nerfed since they were supposed to be an aid for the dark instead of the fog

[craggy pier]

Lame

[neon gust]

the benefit you had before wasnt even that noticeable

common 10cc L

[soft crater]

when thermals irl can get blocked by smoke/fog

but often times when realism aspects get put into games. people bitch about it

[winged turtle]

ya, honestly balancing for irl is pretty shit

really toxic builds are pretty meta

waiting for the next balance patch

idky so many games try to copy irl balance, i bet the Precision Rifle irl is unplayable

[past mesa]

Can’t believe that balancing for realism doesn’t work when it comes to game design

Crazy

[signal radish]

tried with pros nik

but die at secondary

Q_Q

[fathom dome]

If I'm sneaking around in a room, can enemies sense me through walls/barriers?

[ocean spindle]

nope, normally if u cant see em they wont see u, but they can see u through lil holes n stuff

so just pay attention if hear one throb

[fathom dome]

Cool, and is there any good way to quickly and stealthily approach an enemy or is it mainly just crouching over to them?

[ocean spindle]

u can walk to it, itll not wake up if u hit it fast enough, and even if it does u can kill it before it screams
with more practice u can run at it [if u dont have a spear of course] and speedrun the enemies

tho its more prone to wakin up rooms too

[fathom dome]

How about scouts?

That's probably my biggest struggle. Does the same apply?

[ocean spindle]

yeah, if u walk to it u can hit it n continue with ur life
if u need practice u can like let it walk to u instead of u walkin to it too
and if u run to it, itll extend its feelers, but if ur fast and hit it right away u will still kill it isnce theres a second or so where u can touch its tentacles

... all of these with headshots of course

cause u can only kill it with a hammer spear with a headshot
bat n knife needs a back of the head hit

[fathom dome]

Also when you list a room and its contents via term does it list opened containers too?

[ocean spindle]

it lists all containers, it doesnt know if they are open or not it just knows they exist
if u wanna list resources, u can do LIST RESOURCES ZONE_VVV
or LIST RES E_VVV to shorten it

since, E_VVV works the same as ZONE_VVV

[fathom dome]

Ahh alright, thanks a lot for the help!

[ocean spindle]

it finee

[red flax]

Can I change what audio device the game plays to?

[tropic vine]

you should be able to go into the in game setting and find audio. pretty sure you can change it there but if not you can always change it in the computer systems setting.

[shrewd dirge]

which mission is the biggest resident sleeper shooting gallery

[tropic vine]

r2c2 is an a level where is (technecily) and infinite amount of sleepers (only strikers and shooters tho)

[jagged shore]

feel like in terms of "resident sleeper" shooting gallery itd be hard to top r1c1

[spiral tide]

till now how many stage can be soloed ?

[soft crater]

All

[past mesa]

with cheese or without

[spiral tide]

without

[soft crater]

With or without bots

[past mesa]

without any game breaking cheese there is only 2 levels that havent

r7e1 and r4e1

[soft crater]

A1 hard

[past mesa]

yup

[winged turtle]

is the primary problem with R7E1? and is the only cheese necessary giant-flyer-wave-cap?

[icy cave]

Yes. iirc T-nenpi only used that to cheese

But that's already considered major cheese

[tardy ingot]

R6DX?

[noble sierra]

R6DX is also done by capping flyers and make them stuck

[tardy ingot]

^

[civic wave]

I know r4c3 was done by using scout waves to enemy cap before pulling hsu to avoid charger error

Tbh idk how nenpi kited that stuff around for over an hour

[noble sierra]

Wesley is the first one doing R4C3 iirc, 3 hours longs I think.

[silver fable]

a lot of later level solos have leaned on filling the spawn cap with specific enemies and then kiting them across the level to buy time to do objectives and whatnot

this may or may not count as cheese to you

but most people would probably accept that it's not as game-breaking, as say, door bug, which allows you to trap enemies behind a broken door that the enemies think still impedes them

If you want solos with "intended play" (i.e. not even significant kiting), then imo the levels in the current build of the game that I wouldn't be too surprised to see solos of would be:

• Any R1 level
• Any R2 level except D2 or E1
• Any R3 level
• I'll have to get back to you on R4, but I think all A's, all B's, and C1 and C2 main should be doable
• In R7, A1, B1, B2, B3 main and secondary, and possibly C3 main and secondary

though for me, even kiting is on a bit of a spectrum

with things like a single long kite to save a scan on one end, and a pre-planned permanent giant cap to do all objectives in a level on the other

allow some of the former kind of kiting and I'd add more levels to the list above

[hidden ridge]

Just curious how you'd qualify the "kill stuff until all ||fliers|| spawn bugged" from R6DX

I'm not criticizing nor anything like that I just want to ask

[silver fable]

not kiting, but cheese for sure

but also fuck r6dx

acceptable cheese because that section is cancer

[hidden ridge]

Personally I consider that on the verge as the same thing as door bug

Since it is basically the same

[silver fable]

oh it's definitely same category as door bug

[hidden ridge]

just without a door xD

[silver fable]

but I care a little more about the mengelean things that section does to my frames, than I do about the cheese strat

[hidden ridge]

I hated the fps drops but also the weird tendency I saw of flyers either going through cracks they're not supposed to or just acting very weird on the middle terminal

[amber spindle]

Dumbest shit I’ve seen happen to a door. We walk into a security door. Someone lag teleports in by accident and triggers the room. Then the door closes behind us

[tardy ingot]

desync issue

[amber spindle]

Tbh it was fucking hilarious

[fierce nebula]

game severely needs a ping counter

so many "bug reports" is just shitty internet

[amber spindle]

True that

It’s all people without Ethernet lmao

[soft crater]

Or low end pcs in general (or both)

[hazy oriole]

So i just got the game a about a month ago and if i ask for help on rundown 1 will i get in trouble

on the sever i mean

[ocean spindle]

i mean
no
u can ask qustions about doubts u have on this channel and if u wanna play with people and get carried [even if i dont recommend it] u can go to the LFG channels

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[hazy oriole]

@ocean spindle ok thanks

[ocean spindle]

its ok

[idle kayak]

pls quick how to kill scouter

best waz

y

[latent obsidian]

full charge hammer or spear to the head for stealth. Otherwise some guns to the head will do it: sniper, precision rifle, choke mod and more

[hazy oriole]

how does lfg work on discord

[latent obsidian]

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[latent obsidian]

Have you read this^ ?

[hazy oriole]

ok

[neon jolt]

whats a good weapon/loadout for R1C2 specifically for the charger waves? some of the weapons I've tried so far make it seem like the chargers are just shrugging off the bullets, is something like the revolver, dmr or choke mod better for them?

[sage knot]

chokemode/hel rifle can one shot them from a good distance

[ocean spindle]

so chargers have 30 hp and cant be headshotted, to guns of precision wont help, dmr, revo, have good dmg but they need headshots to be really prolific
combat shotgun could be useful to stagger em even if it needs two three shots to kill one, shotgun and chokemod shotgun oneshots if u aim well, hel gun does good damage and over penetrates, hel rifle has 30 dmg too but its slower so it could b funky using it

[turbid horizon]

Hel shotgun

[ocean spindle]

and if ur thinkin of a MAIN weapon- yeah hel shotgun staggers em a lot

[neon jolt]

bouta go double shotty

[ocean spindle]

apart from that all the other mains arent really specialized to deal with bigger enemies but, well hel revolver has good dmg and its fast, carbine shoots fasts but needs more bursts- in general the main weapon doesnt matter a lot

unless its

hel shottie

just beware of the reload

cause it is quite long

[neon jolt]

I'll try rifle and choke for my next run I haven't tried the rifle yet

[ocean spindle]

the rifle is a good weapon, well i say that of all weapons
but it is like a less specialized dmr so it might not be the best

but u can still try it

see if u like it

cause for smols its pretty nice

[neon jolt]

is it a 2-3 shot on the body for smalls?

[sage knot]

to dispatch chargers fast with a main weapon, carbine/hel revolver are quite good

[ocean spindle]

with a headshot, maybe, its not as demanding of headshots as a dmr but still needs em a bit

[wheat tulip]

how to change username in gtfo?

[ocean spindle]

u cant, only ur steam name appears

[vague bridge]

mod

[ocean spindle]

... maybe there could be

yeah a mod

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[ocean spindle]

ah wait

thats not it

[vague bridge]

wrong .t

[ocean spindle]

.t modding

[uneven gulch]

GTFO doesn't officially support mods and we don't allow them to be played in public lobbies or voice channels on this server, and lengthy discussions should also be avoided (mentioning them is perfectly fine). However, we do recognize that a GTFO modding community exist and if you are interested in them, you are welcome to join the independent modding community Discord server. https://discord.gg/rRMPtv4FAh (If you have any more questions, please read rule #12 in the rules channel for more information.)

[ocean spindle]

there

im too used to the lfg

[vague bridge]

there we go

understandable

[wheat tulip]

if i change steam name then it will change in game right?

[ocean spindle]

aham

[past mesa]

Yeah

[uneven drift]

Where is the Terminal in the first zone of R4E1?

[manic basin]

Hey there. Just playing Tutorial. The gamepad settings don't seem to adjust at all when I reduce the sensitivity settings. Is this a known issue? Thanks.

[ocean spindle]

hello, um if i remmeber correctly theres a settin for control and for mouse, so make sure ur in the right one

[manic basin]

Thanks. I am. This tends to happen in games generally not made for pad. It's the opposite in fact. They've tied the pad sensitivity into the Mouse settings rather than having it be independent. The Gamepad settings aren't connected to the movement sensitivity at all. I've fond this in other titles.

[ocean spindle]

ahh, im sorry, ill b sure to remember it if another person asks for the issue

glad u found out about it

[manic basin]

Thanks. No worries as long as it works that's the main thing.

Always better if specific pad programming included though. Pad as Mouse always feels very unruly...

Change Inertia setting poss...

Optional in menu probs fixes things. Sorry rapid message... done.

[shell elk]

Yo quick question, for sneaking is crouch walking quieter than walking? Just asking cause I noticed that I was able to walk by sleepers without alerting them

[ocean spindle]

yes, if u crouch the sleepers exist, if u walk the sleepers will start to glow as soon as ur in detection range

[winged turtle]

The only difference between walking and crouching is that crouch will not bring them from alertness level zero to level one

besides that, they alert sleepers at the same distances, and at the same speeds/rates

[jagged shore]

it does if you're close enough

[winged turtle]

its a tiny ti-nee range, but yes

[tardy ingot]

similar range to their insta wake up basically

[manic basin]

So I don't know who did the pad for this game but they haven't even put the gun on the right trigger. Left trigger fires the weapon. What on earth?

Spoose I'll to have amend to settings

[jagged shore]

???
the few times i tried playing with gamepad it was correct

[manic basin]

I've got an Series pad, with a wireless receiver.. odd

I don't know why but it seems to be reading my pad a a mouse then...?

Controls for pad in game say Left trigger Aim, Right Trigger Fire.

[icy cave]

how are you planning to do terminal stuff ?

[past mesa]

dont need no terminal

[manic basin]

Well I'd like the game to read my pad as a pad!

[icy cave]

ok but the terminal ?

[manic basin]

Terminal is ok X to intereact...

[heady moat]

typing commands though...

[manic basin]

B to crouch ok, L3 Sprint,

They seem to be fine

[icy cave]

typing commands ?

[manic basin]

Oh you can use eyboard for that.

[jagged shore]

x to get into it, but good luck typing anything with it
if you're playing with other people it's fine, but if you're on your own with bots you'll have to switch yeah

[manic basin]

I mean I don't expect total Pad use, just for the FPS aspect...

[icy cave]

you won't have time to switch quickly between pad and keyboard

good luck tho

[jagged shore]

alright we just wanna make sure you at least have correct expectations

[manic basin]

They both connect at once. You just need to put the pad down, not a problem

[icy cave]

yeah you probably dooming yourself for a hard wall at some point

[tardy ingot]

eh

if the switch itself takes 2-3 seconds

thats completely fine

theres basically no time where you NEED to insta swap

[manic basin]

One second...

[tardy ingot]

but being able to type stuff in less than 5-10 seconds is definetly needed (so keyboard is generally required if you dont wanna get teammates to do it all)

[manic basin]

Should be ok I think. Playing with mates as well.

[jagged shore]

yeah if you're playing with people on m&kb then you just be totally fine

as long as they can learn how to use the terminals

[manic basin]

I've just done the tut for the terminal. You just use basic ... it;s fine

[ashen frigate]

I have played through R6C1 with a Controler back then. It was "ok" or "playable", but I would not recommend it :D

[manic basin]

Ah well. I will try and soldier through.... Was it general controls you found hard or the interfaces?

I just don't know why it's not reading my pad as a pad. Are you playinh on W10 or W11?

[ashen frigate]

Not really that hard to get, but aiming with a controler, especially when you have not attempted since playing Golden Eye on the Nintendo 64 ...

[tardy ingot]

terminals get a bit more complex (not the typing or complexity of what you type, just that you got to do more text quickly i guess) later on

regarding controller controlls. Its just harder to aim and move around with

[ashen frigate]

For movement though, it felt quite alright, I must add

[manic basin]

Ahh lol ok! Many many thousands of Halo games later...! I'l be ok

If not I'll M&K

How do we team up with friends in game?

Thanks btw.. appreciated 🙂

[tardy ingot]

host a level (click on the level)

a "host lobby" shows up

once the host did that

you can invite players

or they can join via steam/the rundown screen into it directly

do not

use matchmaking

since people dont use it its empty as hell

people usually matchup on the discord

for that just check the "how to matchmake" channel

[manic basin]

Thanks 🙂

[tardy ingot]

hope ya guys have fun

if you find yourself struggling with levels/game mechanics id recommend the guides made by "professor scaler"

if needed they are very neat

[winged turtle]

and ask questions here!

[manic basin]

Thanks

[heady moat]

that's not a question smh my head

[little dirge]

so do i get an r4e1 refund bc apparently all games crashed like 5-10 min ago and we where literally 2 zones away from extraction

[winged turtle]

a lot of us are pretty nice and a lot of us are constructive, there are even a couple people who are both lol

[past mesa]

some of us (me) are neither

skill issue

[winged turtle]

its okay, maybe once you have 100 hours you will finally get being nice down

its one of the hardest ones, but i believe in you!

[past mesa]

100 hours of being nice to pubs.

impossible challenge.

[dry pumice]

Alright, what got me killed on last reactor...

Oh right... TIME.

[timid flax]

:(((((((((

[icy cave]

refund for my brutha

[icy cave]

R4B1?

[dry pumice]

yeah, that thing

Its very unfortunate that you dont know what the objective is until you try it

[past mesa]

just play for 2 more hours

[dry pumice]

Warden could at least give you a hint or something, like come on

[icy cave]

you can technically know

[noble sierra]

They did, it's called terminal

[heady moat]

it's on the wiki 🙏

[dry pumice]

yeah, "technically". Let me just LIST REACTOR on every single level, just to be sure

[icy cave]

well

it really is like that

[dry pumice]

(spoiler: that ain't no good game design, its just annoying)

[craggy pier]

Skill issue

[icy cave]

when you open the sec door to R4B1

it tells you

[heady moat]

hence why the wiki says that 🙏

[winged turtle]

you don't "list key" on blind runs?

[dry pumice]

Yeah, ONCE ITS ALREADY OPEN

and you can't back out of it either

So either try and die, or restart run because bots are no good

[winged turtle]

why not just add to the list?

[soft crater]

[icy cave]

😅 I did not say you could go back 😏

[manic basin]

Set on left hand mode that was why pad was behaving oddly!

[winged turtle]

woah! thats a good note

gotta keep that in mind helping other people in the future

[soft crater]

[sage knot]

is there a place where I can look at the cosmetic drops from alt R4?

[winged turtle]

i would never have guessed that could be an issue

[dry pumice]

probably wiki, if they update it quick enough

[icy cave]

its rng mixed in with all the prvious drops

so if you haven't done previous rundowns you will drop stuff from before

[heady moat]

pictures of some of them are on the wiki, but we don't have all of them on there yet https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Apparel

[winged turtle]

it would be nice if someone catalogued the cosmetics added to the loot pool

[icy cave]

next time list, then you don't have to go in with bots

but you'll get it. R4B1 sec is pretty chill

[dry pumice]

Minus the surprise

When's the scatter gun coming again?...

[sage knot]

I've done all the previous rundowns so just wondering if any kind person had uploaded some of the new stuff🤝

[heady moat]

alt 6 I think

[icy cave]

ah I dunno.

[little dirge]

yeah guess we have 2 :c

[icy cave]

don't think so

[turbid horizon]

ALT R6

[icy cave]

choke it

[winged turtle]

Twist it

[heady moat]

twist mod shotgun confirmed for rundown 8 🙏