gtfo-related-questions

[tardy ingot]

so they will still spawn, just a tad later

[next socket]

The high cal pistol?

[winged turtle]

no the other one

[next socket]

Revolver?

[winged turtle]

Precision pistol? long range pistol? the one with the thermal

[harsh raven]

thanks

[tardy ingot]

strongest main: hel revo
Carbine is probably not set back much tho

Strongest specials:
Depends for what. Generally its prob a mix of veruta machine gun, combat shotgun and hel gun (unsure) rn?

[tardy ingot]

aww god, dont troll the new ones

those poor souls

[winged turtle]

i am only so strong, i can only resist the temptations for so long

[winged turtle]

what Eva said ^^^

[harsh raven]

👍

[soft crater]

Sawed off when

[craggy pier]

r9

[dull schooner]

Hi guys, returning player here. Are the returning rundowns here to stay or are they cycling out?

[glad pike]

pretty sure they're here to say

[dull schooner]

Nice

[stone dirge]

yep staying

basically they are just updating the old rundowns redoing the majority of layouts but keeping old objective designs and naming them alt rundowns

[soft crater]

Lore is slightly different but otherwise it is as Herokiller stated

[spark lantern]

Wait so dodging tongues you strafe as you’re running and try to jump as it’s about to hit?

[low willow]

I don't think jumping really matters that much but strafe yeah

They have a pretty long range forwards, but not sideways. You'll probably get hit if you try to back up.

[ocean spindle]

the jumping to hit only is really useful on scouts

[low willow]

No slendi this is jumping to evade a hit

[ocean spindle]

ah

hehe
sorry

[low willow]

I don't think it helps your hitbox - shooters definitely aim for your head, dunno about strikers. Sliding/crouching might help tho

[turbid horizon]

i love when hybrid shots u-turn around me and pummel my teammates

[low willow]

this is the correct use of dodging projectiles

[minor fractal]

Never jump, wastes stam.

[craggy pier]

hi gayalot what do u thunk of r4?

[minor fractal]

Outing me, 'illy?

[craggy pier]

[minor fractal]

It's p good, tho. Mostly the same, not a fan of some wacky nerfs here and there but I think most of them might be accidental.

[craggy pier]

level nerfs?

[minor fractal]

It's largely just the same R4 as before.

[craggy pier]

stamina :( good guns :)

[minor fractal]

Stamina : )*

Circle kiting is so fucking cringe.

[craggy pier]

ok

fine

sounding like a jet engine :(

[minor fractal]

Imagine not shooting the reactor on R4E1.

[craggy pier]

knife gamers rise up

[hardy grotto]

Ok but shooting that is honestly rlly easy

[minor fractal]

But it's non-cringe.

Based, even.

[hardy grotto]

Isn’t it more based to solo hammer it

[minor fractal]

Definitely not.

If anything that's worse than trio hammering because it means that one person is kiting even harder than usual.

[hardy grotto]

ur one of those people...

[tardy ingot]

solo spear or bust

[hardy grotto]

solo spear is just too masochistic for me to support that

[dry pumice]

Have they fixed spear stamina inferiority yet

Or nobody cares

[past mesa]

nope

they wont ever buff spear to good in their mind

[icy cave]

no. its still the worst

[low willow]

which is exactly why i'm using it

[winged turtle]

bring back goofy swipe tech, i don't think makes it better enough to bring, but its at least fun

😭

[weary mesa]

You don't understand how broken that was

It had infinite pierce

[turbid horizon]

it was funny

[low willow]

funny > balance

[turbid horizon]

true

scattergun

[low willow]

so true

[turbid horizon]

[winged turtle]

like, pop multiple bubbles on bosses in melee broken?

[craggy pier]

Yes lol

[weary mesa]

That's not how it works but sure

[winged turtle]

so, besides the one funny video where i see 5 strikers in a perfect semicircle and spear full charges all of them in one swipe, i am not imagining the use case to the spear

its obviously broken in a game design sense since thats 'not what its supposed to do'. but from a balance perspective it seems far too niche to be a boon

[soft crater]

We thank your vote for solo Spear

We hope you will continue to support the solo Spear

[steel valley]

did they actually fix the missing drips bug?

just checking before i drop in for the first time

[dry pumice]

They said so at least

[steel valley]

it's 10cc

[winged turtle]

they added to the loot pool yes. if you updated this morning you are in the clear

[steel valley]

i don't really take it at face value

[steel valley]

aight ty

[gusty badge]

can burst cannon still one burst scouts?

[minor fractal]

Yes, its damage is basically the same

[gusty badge]

so the whole reduced damage has no effect?

[heady moat]

well, it can't one-shot strikers in the body

(strikers have 20hp, BC shots were changed 20.1 -> 19)

[gusty badge]

so in head then?

[dry pumice]

Yes.

Good luck hitting 2 headshots in a row with a hyper fast burst.

[heady moat]

The back still works :)

if you can get behind them ofc

[storm flint]

can anyone explain what weapons are typically best?

[heady moat]

Not the HEL Autopistol unless you specifically want the best weapon at dealing a lot of stagger

It kinda depends on what you're looking for tbh

[civic wave]

Carbine/Hel revolver tend to be the best primaries, though some others aren't bad
then Hel Gun/Burst Cannon are sorta the most versatile

you can never go wrong with Hel Gun

[heady moat]

If you want a big fat 'delete this thing in front of me k thx bye' weapon, the Sniper is decent at that (but not much else)

[silver fable]

main: carbine and hel revolver, but you can make most mains work
specials: hel gun is probably still on top, probably followed by veruta and combat shotgun

[storm flint]

hmm i tried the hel gun but it got me killed lmfao

how should i use the hel revolver? should i treat it like the high cal pistol?

[heady moat]

the HEL rifle has a shorter charge time

[silver fable]

but arbalist and har are fine, I'd recommend learning pump shotgun at some point because it's kinda irreplaceable, I'd also learn either choke shotgun or sniper too

[heady moat]

Treat it like a short-range DMR.

[storm flint]

then why not use the dmr instead...

im not saying ur wrong, just that i am not sure its use case

[minor fractal]

Less ammo, no pen.

[silver fable]

1 body + 1 head, or 3 body

[heady moat]

• More ammo
• Deals more base damage than the DMR (if less precision damage)
• Somewhat satisfying ammo count (100 exactly, very clean percentages, resupply always gives 18 bullets, no fractions of bullets)

[minor fractal]

HEL Revo is probably the single strongest Main weapon in the game.

[storm flint]

dang i gotta try it

ive been using the carbine or bullpup

[civic wave]

reload cancel on the hel revo is really good too

[silver fable]

oh and look for overpen opportunities but don't agonize over it

[civic wave]

carbine great
bullpup is let down by its reload, like why would you ever use it after using SMG/Auto rifle/PDW/Carbine

[storm flint]

insane fire rate

i havent had issues with reload yet...

[minor fractal]

HEL Revo is cracked because you can play it like it's not a HEL weapon and it'll be just fine.

[storm flint]

though im not that experienced with most guns

[silver fable]

carbine is very good, bullpup would be fine if not for the reload

[storm flint]

good to know

[minor fractal]

As soon as you abuse the pen, it gets a little ridiculous.

[heady moat]

bullpup deals less damage to the body than the normal assault rifle

[storm flint]

alr ill try out the HEL revolver, then for secondary....

[heady moat]

(but more damage on headshots)

[minor fractal]

HEL Revo is kind of good with everything, ngl. It's a very strong standalone Main, a very strong combo Main, etc.

[silver fable]

oh, also hel revo basically requires you to learn to reload cancel to maximize it

otherwise its reload is basically the same as bullpup

[storm flint]

ive been using the high cal pistol or burst rifle or MG as special, anything specific i should look at as a special?

[storm flint]

isnt that just double swapping weapons once ur ammo ticks back to full?

[civic wave]

yeah, or melee into weapon select

[silver fable]

👍

[storm flint]

good

im practiced with that from DRG

also

armored bois

im on R1E4 i think it is, first set of armored enemies

what special would i benefit from there?

[winged turtle]

ohh! R1C2 has the spikey lads

[storm flint]

AH

mb

wait E4 is the reactor one isnt it.

💀

[winged turtle]

no sweat

[storm flint]

yeah its the spikey lads

[heady moat]

R1 doesn't have any E levels 💀

[winged turtle]

there are no E tier missions in the first rundown

[turbid horizon]

sir do you mean R4E1

[heady moat]

R1C1 is reactor startup, R1D1 is reactor shutdown

[storm flint]

MFs enter, tank an ungodly amount of my ammo, clobber me around, die, refuse to elaborate

[storm flint]

no, R1

[winged turtle]

specials thats are good against chargers? tbh idk

[storm flint]

im finding decoders or whatever

[heady moat]

C2

[turbid horizon]

ok

R1C2

[storm flint]

ah

[turbid horizon]

phew

[winged turtle]

folks?

[turbid horizon]

uhhh Hcp used to be

[past mesa]

HEL RIFE

[turbid horizon]

shotguns are genereally good

yes that

[silver fable]

lol hel gun

[winged turtle]

also! spikey lads are called Chargers btw

[civic wave]

Choke Mod/Hel Gun are the first 2 that come to my mind

[turbid horizon]

shotguns, hel rifle, both MG's (imo)

[civic wave]

Hel Rifle one shots them which is nice

[turbid horizon]

hye can call them spiky lads if he wants ig

[storm flint]

good to know

[storm flint]

ooh

[turbid horizon]

i called them rockers

XD

[heady moat]

(stats) Chargers have ||30hp||

[winged turtle]

just in case

[storm flint]

i call them the reason i have to restart that mission for the 12th time

🗿

it aint easy out there being a solo lmao

[winged turtle]

they be punchin lol

[storm flint]

they bomp

fr

[silver fable]

hel gun and hel rifle kinda invalidate chargers

[storm flint]

good ill use em then

[winged turtle]

and they mix up bots somethin special

[storm flint]

im sorry

bots?

[silver fable]

other options include the machine guns or choke shotty, but they're not as convincing

[turbid horizon]

yeah you should give a bot a hel revolver

[storm flint]

ah ok

[heady moat]

sniper can also one-shot them, but you only get 13 shots with it

[storm flint]

i thought u were saying they mess up robots

and i hadnt heard of fighting robots

[turbid horizon]

bot players

[storm flint]

ya that makes sense now

[turbid horizon]

R8 robot fighters when

[storm flint]

fr, u walk around a corner and a mech MF punches ur head off

Unspleens ur sorry prisoner self

ALSO

how do knife

i stab MFs and it works, but im sure im not doing it right

ive seen people run up and stab tons of enemies without them waking up, but they always get angry and try to hit me right before i get to them

[turbid horizon]

knife hitbox is funky fresh

like

[storm flint]

so it's a mad dash to dodge their hit and hope i hit their head before they come back for round 2

with friends

[turbid horizon]

I usually have to jump to guarantee the head hit

[heady moat]

tbf that reminds me of when I first noticed some giants missing limbs (and were just bones), I kinda thought that the giant itself had spawned in with prosthetic legs/arms or something like that

[storm flint]

lol

[spark lantern]

knife is weird,i stand slightly to the right of an enemy charge it up aiming at head, knife decides im gonna hit left leg

[minor fractal]

Don't run, turn your light off.

[storm flint]

well i dont have issues hitting heads (except on the giants, where i have to jump), my issue is waking them up

[storm flint]

hmm i thought people ran when they did it lol

RIP

[turbid horizon]

uhh

[past mesa]

run is a hard alert

[storm flint]

also i heard knifing giants is a poor plan

[turbid horizon]

if u hit a sleeper with a knife and it wakes them up you didn't hit the head

[heady moat]

yes

[storm flint]

can confirm

[minor fractal]

bad knife players sprint, but you shouldn't do it unless you know it's 1 at a time.

[turbid horizon]

yes do not knife the giant

[storm flint]

💀

[minor fractal]

Once everything around you is up you can sprint, as well.

[storm flint]

REAL shame that my bots dont synchronize melee on my target despite their being a voice command for it ;-;

[turbid horizon]

they'll go for the giant

[storm flint]

speaking of waking up, how the heck to i dodge their tongues

[storm flint]

AFTER it wakes up

[turbid horizon]

and stunlock it after u hit it

[minor fractal]

Move in an arc around them.

[turbid horizon]

OH right ur not using hammer

[storm flint]

i stagger it on first hit

[turbid horizon]

so you won't get initial stagger

wait really?

[storm flint]

if u hit it in the back of the head or break a limb or poke a hole in their torso yes

[turbid horizon]

oh ok I see the problem

because idk if you can chain stagger

[storm flint]

but im pretty sure it only works when they are sleeping

after that i dont really stagger them

[turbid horizon]

yeah bc of the sleepy damage bonus

[storm flint]

no, no you cannot

[icy nacelle]

The voice command is more for players who aren't in a VC Together/mute to be able to sync up as far as I understand, not at all to do with the bots.

[storm flint]

yeah i found that one out

but OTHER voice commands do work on bots

for deploying things

[turbid horizon]

also for high ping vc

[next socket]

I'm factory resetting my PC because it's getting slow, does anyone know where GTFO stores its settings so I don't have to redo them?

Nvm, found it, it's in LocalLow

[spring panther]

ive not played gtfo for a very long time and the rundowns page seems to have been completely reorganised or renamed is anyone able to explain just briefly thanks

[ocean spindle]

so on Rundown 7, the devs decided to bring the old rundowns back [r1 to r6], and they did it the ALT://Rundowns, the old rundowns but slightly changed and optimized
and so next up they need to release ALT://Rundown 5

[heady moat]

you can select more levels

[winged turtle]

they are in the middle of re-adding old content, and the Alts are the remasters that have come out so far

[turbid horizon]

tbf it's actually been coming along at a fair pace

[icy cave]

but where new content 😦

[turbid horizon]

calling ALT R5 uhhh... 10-11 work weeks from now

[spring panther]

oh I see R7 is the rundowns I was doing previously i just wanted to make sure i was starting from where i left off

[past mesa]

July 1st

[spring panther]

thanks for the responses

[turbid horizon]

no

not again

please npo

[ocean spindle]

im gonna say my bday

[turbid horizon]

wait what

slendi when day of birth

🔫

[ocean spindle]

35 of mustilaba

[heady moat]

Anywho, stupid question: Which sentry/sentries do y'all think would be best for R3B2 - burst, auto, shotgun, or sniper? (Haven't yet been able to get past the first class 5 alarm, wondering if the stagger from the auto might help buy some time 😅)

[turbid horizon]

wat

[craggy pier]

Shotgun+ auto

[ocean spindle]

mhh
maybs
i think i used burst but idk its the better

[icy cave]

IF you want to do the class V (and not the III) burst

[ocean spindle]

:D

[icy cave]

you psycho

[turbid horizon]

i was gonna say burst sniper XD

[ocean spindle]

4 mine deployers :3

[craggy pier]

You're the psycho
Shotgun sentry rocks

[icy cave]

still empties too fast

[craggy pier]

Sniper is Soo last rundown

[turbid horizon]

yeah true

[icy cave]

thus means too much tool usage

[winged turtle]

double burst for sure for sure, and doing the class three is also way easier and waay more rewarding

[turbid horizon]

Cfoam +cfoaam

[icy cave]

it could be good in some situations tho, compared to last rundown where it was garbo

[craggy pier]

I took 1 shotgun 1 auto for R4 Soo far it's great

[icy cave]

you do have an easier class IV later on tho

its just what you prefer tbh

[winged turtle]

they both blow through ammo like its going out of style, but if it works it works

[icy cave]

auto is still garbo, sorry. we took it one mission and dumped it into the fire after

[heady moat]

I have managed to complete the scans for the class V alarm, but kept getting wiped by the last few enemies from the wave (not helped by the bots not cooperating with the scans)

[icy cave]

then you might want to try class III side

[heady moat]

aight

[icy cave]

but you'll have to defend 2 sides on the class IV

[craggy pier]

Considering I mainly play with bots I got to compensate for the devs Inability to just remove bot melee during combat

[icy cave]

sooooo yeah it really depends where you struggle

[icy cave]

ah yes the path of suffering

[winged turtle]

so, they ****can spawn in the other direction, but they kinda don't. but much more importantly, there is a double use of every resource in there. it makes the rest of the level including the alarm a cake walk

[ocean spindle]

autopistol such beloved
its so good for a person that wont kill either way like me

[winged turtle]

plus there are literal zero resources behind the class v

[craggy pier]

It is what it is mine fren

[icy nacelle]

So what you're saying is.. I should run 4 Auto-Sentries to increase their effectiveness.

[winged turtle]

in theory, yes. not in practice

[icy cave]

thats fair, but its a legit option. class V gives 2 cells so you only have to defend stairs on last alarm

[icy cave]

you got lucky m8 cause we had them spawn on both sides

Btw none of the "paths"seemde harder/easier to me. its just options

[craggy pier]

No more trouble with surge alarms

[icy cave]

hmmmmmm THAT might be the trick

[winged turtle]

and it costs your two entire zones of resources. the group i cleared with was scraping by on extraction, vs fat and happy with the other route

[icy cave]

you missed stuff then cause we were fat and happy on both sides

[winged turtle]

and it feels monumentally easier to me, which is why i am advocating for it

[icy cave]

but yes you get MORE on the II side

[icy nacelle]

4 Auto-Sentries with incredibly high CPU Speed let's goooooo.

[icy cave]

again. try it both. If you struggle on V side then go III its as simple as that

[winged turtle]

so if you were better with spending ammo, i will believe you easily lol, but every time i drop into that level, i list resources behind the class V and it is actual zero resource packs.

[heady moat]

yes

[icy cave]

well we hammer a lot ofc

but the resources in the fog zone are ample enough for the whole team

[winged turtle]

the class 3 leaves room for waste, and the class 5 less much less so

[storm flint]

question time

[heady moat]

also playing with bots so...

[ocean spindle]

trees do talk

u just dont hear em

[winged turtle]

Answer time

[icy cave]

I do not deny that. like I said its up to preference. We prefer speed. some prefer resources

[storm flint]

all missions in R1 so far have had an alarm at the end

is this gonna keep happening?

[ocean spindle]

maybe maybe not

who knows

[heady moat]

but yeah imma attempt the class III this time

[icy cave]

nope R1B1 has notr

[ocean spindle]

ah true :D

i forgot

[storm flint]

ah great but i assume R1C2 does...

[icy cave]

I think you'll be more comfy on that side as we ll

[ocean spindle]

only one way to see

:]

u keep goin buddy

[storm flint]

gonna be wonderful when i finally spend 1.5 hrs on it just to get killed at the end

[winged turtle]

You got this!

[storm flint]

lmao

[heady moat]

Always safest to assume that there might be one

[icy cave]

OR you do both 😏

[heady moat]

Means that it's a pleasant surprise when there isnt one :)

[winged turtle]

When there isn't one, I get suspicious

[ocean spindle]

me grabbin the last thing in a mission with 3 sentries down just do see nothin spawns:

[storm flint]

OH

[winged turtle]

actually though

[storm flint]

ya i have another question

[icy cave]

they right. always assume that objectives trigger something

[storm flint]

how does the spawning at the end work?

should i hold my ground and shoot, then run?

or run and try to shoot as i go?

[winged turtle]

the class five is way easier when they spawn 2 rooms away and not one

[storm flint]

or run like hell and then shoot

once i arrive

[icy cave]

depends how you manage

[winged turtle]

with bots? walk and shoot imo

if 4 vets? run run run

[icy cave]

IF you can run and dodge then run. if you have trouble then shoot and walk

bots will prolly be walk yeah

[storm flint]

should i worry about running out of ammo?

[icy nacelle]

Bio bots especially are gonna stop constantly to ping.

[storm flint]

idk how many spawn at the end alarms

[icy cave]

depends one the level

[icy nacelle]

Depending on situation it's totally worthwhile to just kick the bot and reload them at a later point than waiting on them.

[storm flint]

big brain time

[winged turtle]

they can walk and shoot with supreme accuracy, capitalize on that

if they run and take a funny route, they die fromtheir faffing around

[storm flint]

kick all down bots

profit

[ocean spindle]

i mean its the same if it goes down aint it

[icy nacelle]

I dunno I've never bothered with that.

[icy cave]

not really but here as well it depends how trigger happy you are

[storm flint]

oh and ive seen lots of things u can climb on

is there any advantage to doing so?

or will the enemies just smack you anyways

[winged turtle]

had one bots for R7C1, he was 2 rooms behind us when we team scanned lol

[icy cave]

they'll lick you up there

[winged turtle]

lol

lmao

[storm flint]

guess NOT

[icy nacelle]

Honestly if you're running with bots I'd just get into the habit of quick kicking/reloading them so that you're prepared for if you actually need to do that in a run.

[storm flint]

now the real question is how to do that

[icy nacelle]

Esc, select bot and set to "Players Only or Locked" then back to "Player/Bots or Bots Only".

[winged turtle]

so terrain and doors are what makes kiting work with stamina, and if you find terrain good enough, it breaks the game

[storm flint]

so what is "good enough"

idk what to look for

best ive gotten was running up a ladder in a panic and killing stuff as it climbed up after me lmao

hiding behind a shelf when the big bois tried to lick

[winged turtle]

so if you are with bots you can't really do this because they also use pathing

[storm flint]

lol

[winged turtle]

but any way you can hop off a side to make them go around is very useful

[icy cave]

Its about jumping over a box, making the enemy path around it and giving you some space. Or turning a corner right as you are about to get licked. that kind of stuff

[storm flint]

alr

[devout nimbus]

What does the patch they added do

[past mesa]

Gives players who have everything cosmetic more things in the pool

[winged turtle]

poured more loot into the loot pool

[spark lantern]

what special weapons do ppl tend to run with shelling pistol?

[minor fractal]

HEL Gun, and that kinda it.

[storm flint]

HEL gun or HEL rifle?

im fighting chargers i believe their name is

spikey boi

[minor fractal]

Both are fine, HEL Gun is better.

[storm flint]

any reason to ever use HEL rifle/

[minor fractal]

If you enjoy playing it.

[dry pumice]

hel rifle oneshots them, but people find it hard to quickscope them (that charge up is a bitch)

HEL Rifle is like a discount sniper rifle with some enemy penetration too boost. If you can catch smalls in a long tight corridor - it can do some serious damage.

Unfortunately i haven't found such a spot yet.

[spark lantern]

how do you normally use shelling pistol? ik it's balanced but i guess what scenario should it mostly be used for? hipfire cqc? or close range support? or?

[maiden cypress]

hel gun charge up genuinely is more fucked up

[minor fractal]

Close range support and close range TTK weapon.

[dry pumice]

Its a close-to-mid range jack of all trades.

[minor fractal]

Very economical, I guess.

[dry pumice]

You can precision fire with it, you can hipfire spam... It got stagger, it got some nice damage (especially on headshots).

[mossy aurora]

pistol at mid range is very meh

[dry pumice]

You play it like you are an american cop and the suspect just reached for something

Also it oneshots both strikes and shooters to the back of the head. You can roleplay as an executioner.

[midnight tulip]

Does the Precision Rifle deal increased precision damage like the sniper and knife do?

[dry pumice]

Yes, its in the name

Bodyshot damage big cringe, headshot damage big cool

[midnight tulip]

it's not in the description though so I wasn't sure

not every gun has a precision damage modifier, right?

[mossy aurora]

they all do, but most of them are less than 1

[dry pumice]

Its very convoluted

Headshots are always good, but some guns are better at it than others

[solemn flint]

does anyone have an instruction for how to use auto pistol

[hardy grotto]

shoot enemy

[solemn flint]

that thing is so hard to use

[hardy grotto]

enemy gets staggered

keep enemies staggered

[dry pumice]

which one

old or new one

old one kills, new one crowd controls

you just go BRRRRT

[solemn flint]

the new one

its feel wrong to use it

[hardy grotto]

if u spam it like that ur not using it v well lmao

[dry pumice]

prefferably you try to alline 2-3 enemies in a tunnel to get maximum DPS

it served me kinda well in R4A1, got enemies caught in some very nasty stunlocks

But i hate guns that don't deal damage

[solemn flint]

i hate that too

its just feel wrong to not kill anything

[dry pumice]

For some reason support guns are a thing in this game... Go figure

[solemn flint]

im used to too much damage on a gun

[hardy grotto]

maybe a stagger weapon is actually cool and sometimes useful

[solemn flint]

enjoy the dark power too much that i cant live without high destruction gun

[mossy aurora]

the dark power?

😲

[dry pumice]

No need to crowd control if the victim is already dead. Every game's meta comes to this conclusion eventually.

And also its just plain boring to use

Oh wow i unloaded like 30 bullets into a shooter and she doesn't care

aphtfoo

[hardy grotto]

i think u unloaded 30 into a wall if the striker doesnt care

[solemn flint]

dark power = everything ded in 1 second

light power = support ur teammate

im too in to the dark side

[dry pumice]

Looks slick as hell though

[spark lantern]

sometimes playing gtfo waiting for that 20th game to give you the moment where the niche weapons truly shine is what brings in serotonin, meta will be meta, but fun is fun

[dry pumice]

The only case i can think of are surge alarms

aka the one time actually killing the hostiles is detrimental to the operation

So... R2E1 or whichever one was that.

[mossy aurora]

is it actually detrimental though?

[maiden cypress]

yo what if

you stagger

and your teammates

kill things for you

[dry pumice]

What's the point in killing the enemy if he just gets replaced immediately... And you won't know where it is. Probably will bite you in the ass too.
Just stunlock this idiot forever. At least you know where he is.

[past mesa]

Killing things in surges

Isn’t bad

[hardy grotto]

lmk how that goes when the rest of the surge collapses on u

[past mesa]

Stop this shitty take

[sage knot]

even with surge alarms burst sentries are still better, stack 3 of them and not many passes through

[dry pumice]

HEL Shotgun almost filled this purpose, but the reload is a killer. New APP solved that issue, at the cost of general crowd control.

[past mesa]

The only time stagger is better is when you are trying to avoid punishment waves

[sage knot]

tried the autosentries on surge and they burn through ammo too quickly

[stone dirge]

U need to use burst on surge or just perma hold them at a door

[dry pumice]

Hm.

I wonder how well new smg does against a large striker or something

[stone dirge]

Or kite them

[dry pumice]

Can it stunlock it or...

[sage knot]

cfoam tactic best if terrain allows it

[dry pumice]

I know for a fact HEL shotguns wrecks the poor fools

[ocean spindle]

the autopistol absolutely stun locks big ones

i tried it

bitch couldnt do anythin >:]

[dry pumice]

Nice

[ocean spindle]

yeah
ive been seein this convo and i use autopistol cause im bad at aimin, im terrible
so i hit bodyshot, bots kill, and its a gun i can spray a lot and stagger a lot so i dont get overlwhelmed

and cause enemies that i stagger arent close

bots dont go into melee

and cause its fast i can do this for 2 3 waves, unlike the hel shottie which i need to be careful cause the reload takes 7 minutes

[mossy aurora]

the point is that when you kill the enemy, its now 2 rooms away instead of right on top of you

[past mesa]

Thank you

[mossy aurora]

or 1 room depending on the alarm

[dry pumice]

Specifically was thinking in cotnext or R2E1 and the bullshit that is the first room

[hardy grotto]

u would rather just keep them all right next to you?

and tank a ton of licks?

[past mesa]

Yeah I am lonely

[hardy grotto]

unfort

[stone dirge]

What enemy would u guys recon be the worst in a surge (like only that enemy no minibosses like tank or mom)

[mossy aurora]

bbc

[ocean spindle]

maybe it would be less as a 'kill em or not kill em' and more let em trickle down instead of dealin with the whole wave at once, and this with a smol and fast lil pistol that can constantly stagger enemies so they continue trckling down, but again its the same with auto sentry n maybe would burn too much ammo

[dry pumice]

large chargers, fucking obviously

[mossy aurora]

or maybe baby surge

[dry pumice]

not even a contest

[mossy aurora]

[past mesa]

Depends on the tile

[ocean spindle]

shooter surge

[dry pumice]

actually... yeah babies would be hell

[hardy grotto]

hybrid surge

[dry pumice]

death by a thousand cuts

[ocean spindle]

i just hate shooters

[stone dirge]

It me its a hard choice between hybrids and bbc

Because bbc will run at u and f u up

[ocean spindle]

nono
chickens
chickens specifically

[dry pumice]

i think i'd rather take hybrids

[ocean spindle]

imagine 10 chickens that constantly respawn

[stone dirge]

But at the same time hybrids will bunch up and gun u down

[past mesa]

Depends on the tile

[dry pumice]

I find some enjoyment in playing CoD cover pick-a-boo with them

Especially if the guns are right

[stone dirge]

Yeah i would have to agree depending on the tile

[dry pumice]

chargers are just hell

[past mesa]

Depends on the tile

[dry pumice]

they are everything wrong with an average strikers

but doesn't want to die

[stone dirge]

Yeah i would have to agree with the bbc then

[past mesa]

And spawn distance

[stone dirge]

As u can play peekaboo with the hybrids on basically all tiles and just outrun them if needed

[mossy aurora]

is there a tile with absolutely no cover or terrain u can hide behind

[dry pumice]

the hub room in R2D1(?)

the fog diving thing

[mossy aurora]

????

[minor fractal]

Reactor, lol

[dry pumice]

oh right, reactor rooms

yes

the only piece of cover is the reactor itself

[hardy grotto]

all u need is a hybrid surge in one of them

[stone dirge]

Yep

[hardy grotto]

and itll be rlly fun

[mossy aurora]

oh i remember played a map that had a duo s scan in that tile

[stone dirge]

Everyone at 1hp last 1 alive wins

[past mesa]

Flyer surge

🤮

[dry pumice]

wouldn't actually be that bad

[stone dirge]

Flyer surge would be fine

[dry pumice]

R6D4 was kinda like that

[mossy aurora]

huh?

[dry pumice]

I wasn't a surge, but it was the closest we had

Just constantly being harassed by those a-holes

We need more shockers.

[past mesa]

Boy do I have a level for you

[dry pumice]

Such a cool enemy and so wasted on like... 2-3 missions total

[stone dirge]

Send me it XD

[stone dirge]

Agreed

[worthy dagger]

Will we ever have a broadsword as a melee weapon?

[craggy pier]

are there any female characters i can play as

if not can u add some

[turbid horizon]

There aren’t any and I don’t think there are plans to change up our four established characters

[arctic marten]

no

[arctic marten]

also no

[turbid horizon]

i don’t personally see a reason for it, we have our preexisting characters, suddenly swapping out one of them just wouldn’t make sense

[desert marlin]

Dauda is FTM does that count

[nimble field]

Are any of the prisoners gay? does this game have LGB representation? if not would it be awesome if there was a gay or pan character

[turbid horizon]

Afaik there is no LGBT representation in gtfo

[desert marlin]

Yes, Woods has a loving husband in his hometown of Arizona. He's constantly at ends with Hackett, who is homophobic

[craggy pier]

dauda is def a bit fruity

[desert marlin]

Listen to Woods' new audio log in D1, you'll see otherwise

[turbid horizon]

tbh as somebody who’s bi, i have never seen why this kind of thing is so important to people

[sturdy glen]

my trans friend likes being in the dauda slot does that count

[soft crater]

[nimble field]

it makes me happy knowing there is gay representation in my favorite game

it means a lot to me

[soft crater]

I am the trap

Imean what

[craggy pier]

i knew it

[turbid horizon]

Idk to me it’s like, we have our pre established characters. Especially in this game where the prisoners have 0 identities anymore, personality sure, but they’re constantly in HSU’s when they’re trying not to die

i get that it means something to you all, but i just don’t see it making sense in the context of GTFO

[desert marlin]

Sometimes when you're in the drop pod as Woods you can hear a memory of his two adopted children Franklin and Abigail

[turbid horizon]

Idk that’s my hot take

[desert marlin]

Cued by the appearance of a girl in a red dress

[sturdy glen]

I dont get it either but if it makes some ppl happy, idc

[arctic marten]

thats crazy you should tell the people in #gtfo-lore

[desert marlin]

I'm working on a full lore summary of Woods page based off all information found in game and via my telepathic dreams with Simon Viklund

[nimble field]

is this true. i need to know if this is true

[desert marlin]

Yes, I'll record footage of it tomorrow

[craggy pier]

been having gay thoughts recently

[soft crater]

[turbid horizon]

Being completely honest, no I don’t recall any LGBT representation in gtfo

[craggy pier]

only recently? weak

[arctic marten]

you clearly don't own an air fryer

[nimble field]

this is a shame. its one of my favorite games of all time and its difficult knowing theres no representation for people like me in it. not a deal breaker, just a bit disappointed.

[craggy pier]

[turbid horizon]

Keep in mind that, according to Frosty in gtfo lore, over 99.99% of humanity has been completely wiped out. Very few people remain (like 20k people in hydrostasis), and i’m sure there’s some people in hydrostasis who are lgbt

again, not trying to be insensitive

[craggy pier]

gay sex in the hydro pod

[nimble field]

need to know if theres any gay people in the remaining .01%

[weary mesa]

Why don't any of them have cancer, gotta be getting some fucked up cell mutations while being stored in the HSU

[turbid horizon]

I think that one’s canon

[arctic marten]

dont trust frostty, she doesnt believe in chimp or shrimp theory

[cold quarry]

i thought it was like half? read a log about it in r7, but maybe there's newer stuff

[quiet timber]

im sorry but something has to be done for the solo experience, the ai teamates are no help, i never thought id say this but maybe a difficulty setting? i really want to enjoy this game but it is impossible to play by yourself and thats a huge downer.

[icy cave]

its stated specifically on the store page that its meant as a 4 player team game and that bots are not a viable option to do EVERYTHING

there is no solo experience by design

in other words you mismatched

[tardy ingot]

basically what dj said
The bots are there to make going solo not a monumental task or fil slots for parties with only 2 or 3 players. They never were supposed to fully pull the weight of a level.

They are quite decent at what they do, being able to completely clear quite a lot of levels with no player shooting/killing at all

[devout bridge]

Bots are decent, even as an average player you can complete a lot of levels playingonly with bots. But they do have some quirks that make them very frustrating to play with sometimes

Like going through a door you just closed, staying in stealth mode if you wake up a room without shooting, throwing fog repellers everywhere except where you asked them to, or when the 3 of them try to revive you at the same time even tho there's a giant right on top of you

[coral girder]

if a bot shoots, it will never wake up any sleepers (unless by proxy alert) !!

but they do go through walls a lot💀💀

[devout bridge]

I know, what I meant is that if you wake up a room without shooting (like sprinting near a sleeper), then the bots won't stop crouching as long as you don't start shooting

So if you are in a really bad spot when waking up a sleeper and decide to run somewhere a bit safer before shooting, the bots will try to follow you but won't stop crouching, which usually means they'll take quite a bit of damage or die

[dry pumice]

Yeah, unfortunately the game is not really designed with them in mind. They are a clutch and are preferable than not having a 4th or even 3rd player at all, but playing alone will only get you so far before they will stop getting this done.

I've done R4A1 yesterday and it took 85 minutes. 85! For an A level! If i had just 1 experienced other guy with me - that time could've been halved.

[icy nacelle]

I'm gonna be rude as fuck and I apologise in advance, but 85 Minutes for an A-level; even with 3 Bots; seems like more of a you problem chief.

[dry pumice]

Spear Main Hooray

Allergic to shift button

[icy nacelle]

Ok that makes sense then.

[quiet timber]

Exactly, alot of it is just annoying little blips and problems with the way they behave or not being able to hold they're own in gunfights and what not

[devout bridge]

Gunfights is pretty much the only thing they are quite decent at tho

[quiet timber]

I understand this is no l4d2 and I don't want it to be that way, i just wish more attention was given to players who want to play alone is all

[quiet timber]

Giving them the right equipment is helpful with that aswell

[devout bridge]

True

[dry pumice]

assault rifle + assault rifle is all they need

they can't operate any specialized weaponry like precision or close range weapons

Watch them snipe targets with a shotgun and then miss anyway when its right in front of them

Hm. I wonder how they perform with recently added hel autopistol

Turn them into staggermen

[ocean spindle]

prob not great cause bots would waste a lot of the ammo, it has low damage so their job as human sentries isnt that anymore and the would shoot with it from very far away

if u want an autop in ur team, have it urself so u can stagger the enemies for the bots, keep em away and let em kill em w/o goin into melee :]

[tardy ingot]

you already got that attention. This game is marketed as a 4 man coop hardcore experience

The bots are able to carry a player that isnt making it harder on the bots and themselves than needed

[icy nacelle]

I tend to use anything between AR, BR, Rifle and stick with MG (Veruta) on them usually. Really nice uptime to just give them an ammo early in the level and then not have to care about them for most of the rest of a run.

[ocean spindle]

i mean the game wasnt concieved for bots either, they arrived 2 years later as a 'u got 3 people? heres one bot'

[dry pumice]

Probably was easier to do than teach the game to balance itself out for less people

[ocean spindle]

yeah

lots

[soft crater]

People still complain blaming bots for issues that aren't even their fault

#JusticeForBots

[soft crater]

They already kind of do that with just pistol

But yeah I'd have to see how they use autopistol. Because that thing has shit for damage

[amber spindle]

“Guys my multiplayer game isn’t great when solo”

😢

[past star]

Simple solution. If you’re frustrated with bots, don’t play with them ^_^

Agree?

[hardy grotto]

🙂

But I keep encountering you in my games bread

[past mesa]

You are gatekeeping gtfo from players that don’t have friends

[past star]

I was just typing to counter that

[past mesa]

Toxic elitist

[hardy grotto]

lmfao

[past star]

No

You’re not

[past mesa]

I think her ass is still on

[past star]

I’m gonna do it jish

This game has pushed me over the edge

[past mesa]

E1?

Oh no

Not that again

[hardy grotto]

We should play e1

R4e1

Downwards

[past star]

R7E1

[past mesa]

Yeah Beth

[past star]

Upwards

[hardy grotto]

do you need your clear jish

[past mesa]

We should play r4e1 chaos

I need 100 of them

[hardy grotto]

oh my

That’s a lot

[past mesa]

It is only like

100 hours

[past star]

Cap

[hardy grotto]

Could be worse

[past star]

It’s like 150 hours

[past mesa]

Stop

No it isn’t we will get faster

[past star]

Nope

[past mesa]

yeah we will make a key map

[past star]

True!

[past mesa]

We will take infection booster run through shadow

[past star]

Cheaters strike again

[past mesa]

Exactly

[past mesa]

Are you down though

[hardy grotto]

Probs

Idk how often I’ll play it tho

[past star]

I’ll be down in 11hours

See you then

[past mesa]

L

L

[hardy grotto]

It won’t be r3d1 levels of grinding

[past mesa]

No probs not

[hardy grotto]

But I’ll play it when I’m around

[past star]

Will be worse

[hardy grotto]

LMAO

24h of r4e1

[past star]

Yes

[past mesa]

I vomited

[past star]

And only 11 clears

[hardy grotto]

I did 15h of r3d1 man

[past mesa]

Bread is there a mom up cheese spot

[past star]

Taking in time to eat, and failed attempts

[hardy grotto]

24h of r4e1 will kill me

[past star]

I’m not telling

[past mesa]

There is

[past star]

Can’t have you ruin pubs

Smh

[past mesa]

Me pulling 4 mom isn’t ruining pubs

[past star]

Yes

[past mesa]

It is making the game more interesting

[past star]

It is

ok

[past mesa]

Ok?

[past star]

ok

[past mesa]

Okay

[hardy grotto]

Alright

[craggy pier]

can I play r4e1 with u guys

[past star]

No

[craggy pier]

😭

[past star]

Toxic elitists only

[tardy ingot]

[past mesa]

oh no

[past star]

Anime pfp spotted

[past mesa]

we have become them

[craggy pier]

if I tell people that "solo with bots" isnt solo does that make me a toxic elitist?

[past mesa]

orange name bad

[amber spindle]

True

[past star]

You get the idea

Almost there

[hardy grotto]

You’d just floorwarm again

[tardy ingot]

gotta be more active on steam discussions or smth

smh

[past star]

!!!!!!

[upper ginkgo]

wait until you solo w/ 3 players

[main dagger]

I'm in R4A1, and there's this big grey "bulkhead door", is it just a normal keycard door or is it special?

[craggy pier]

crazy

[tardy ingot]

this the true strats

[past mesa]

solo montage* with 3 players

[past star]

Special

Has its own key

List Bulkhead_key

[hardy grotto]

the montage is rlly funny jish

[main dagger]

anything special behind it?

or can I avoid it

[past star]

Can avoid, it’s the secondary/overload mission to make level harder and have another objective

[hardy grotto]

Honestly tho hecate I feel like reactors are just miserable for you

[tardy ingot]

find out what you gotta do

[craggy pier]

sorry i cant dodge 10 tongues on 300 ping

[tardy ingot]

look around

[hardy grotto]

Funny desync

[main dagger]

I thought R4A1 didn't have a secondary

[past star]

It do

[upper ginkgo]

nah don't even bother doing side objectives, you don't even get cosmetics for doing them

like what's the point

[main dagger]

I'm gonna open it for funzies

[past star]

Best of luck soldier

I believe

[main dagger]

ty

[hardy grotto]

love putting my life on the line for the bit

[craggy pier]

i remember on r4b1 i desynced and had to leave and rejoin the reactor 4 times

[hardy grotto]

Yea

I did it with jaja and he was always just

Stood outside for 4 years

[craggy pier]

lol

[main dagger]

found a second door, yeah this one has "secondary" while the other has "main"

this ought to be fun

[past mesa]

gtfo isnt fun

[craggy pier]

why do you play it then

[past mesa]

i am hard stuck r1a1

[craggy pier]

relatable

[past mesa]

need to pratice to beat it

then i can be free

[tardy ingot]

I desynced so hard i basically was afk for the whole reactor

[craggy pier]

i used logs and still cant beat it

[past star]

Shooter cap

[tardy ingot]

then when the reactor was over BOOM its gone

[past mesa]

tried this

shooters were to much

[past star]

Shooter bug

[tardy ingot]

using we mod on training and still cant get past

[past star]

r7c1

[hardy grotto]

I keep opening the security door on training and all these tanks keep spawning, this game is too hard

[craggy pier]

friends :3

[past star]

They put more effort into that feature than all the Alt rundowns

[hardy grotto]

So true

[past star]

Bug hunters stay losing, but so do apparel hunters

[past mesa]

bug hunters make sure

the bugs are there for us to find

[past star]

LMAO <—— figurative

[main dagger]

does picking up hard drive number 6 start an endless alarm for R4A1?

[craggy pier]

pick it up and find out :3

[past star]

Part of the game, the experience ;)

[livid horizon]

Newb question incoming: as a brand new player should I start with Rundown ALT 1.0 or Rundown 7.0?

[neon gust]

r1

[upper ginkgo]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2962453862

[livid horizon]

Thanks!

[craggy pier]

THE TRU GUIDE LFG

[soft crater]

You right. They gotta play with Bread

[past star]

Plz no

[soft crater]

#LFGWithBread

[past star]

Imagine I get my own channel, that would be huge

[hidden ridge]

I feel like some people just dont want to write "with three bots" and go with the shorter (maybe? easier to write?) "solo with bots" even if I agree the wording doesn't make any sense

Anyway, is there a site with the new cosmetic pool so I can see what I'll miss?

Did anyone get some cool color palettes?

[civic wave]

you can say "with bots" and that's fine

[patent ibex]

list of new cosmetics for R4?

[turbid horizon]

yeezy's, exorcist suit, radio pak and I don't know much else

[minor fractal]

Big kink gear update.

[grizzled widget]

more realistic terms, i'd say upwards of 1-2 million remain (outside of garganta) (note: this is purely from pre-//alt statistics)

[low willow]

There is a palette that is basically Heat but with a little yellow

[icy cave]

🥳

[hidden ridge]

👍

[low willow]

Not sure about if there are any others, it's the only one I've gotten so far

[icy cave]

other palettes? haven't gotten any except that one. buit there are more pants/vests etc. gives off a kind of shiny latex look

[low willow]

I've gotten a couple backpacks too

[little dirge]

hope one of them was the copium one

[icy cave]

true that one actually felt like it belonged in the game

[hidden ridge]

ah yes I have that

If it was blue instead of orange it'd be a police vest

So I can arrest chargers for breaking speed limits

[low willow]

the copium one?

[dry pumice]

Any experiencing a bug(?) with HCP that sometimes you switch to it and for some reason it has 5/6 ammo and you reload it even though you just did?

YEP. Confirmed.

[ocean spindle]

yeah been talked bout in #1049599987878723635

[dry pumice]

Alright, good.

The damn thing reload 5 THEN 6

[ocean spindle]

its a problem with the roundin of the ammo and the % i think, dev said they were lookin at it

weirdly

i never saw that dev, ash, talked before

it felt funk

[turbid horizon]

think they mean the SMC

[low willow]

i got sent a pic

[turbid horizon]

the one I posted in media

[low willow]

yeah

[turbid horizon]

lol gonna call it that now

[jagged shore]

i also had that with arbalist, reloaded to 39 quite a few times
forgot to disable ping my b

[ocean spindle]

in r1, the biggest alarm is a class 5

right?

[jagged shore]

sounds about right

[ocean spindle]

also
in r2 theres some warden doors

i only remember the one in b1

is there another one

[jagged shore]

there's at least one in d2

[ocean spindle]

ah

right i forgot

[jagged shore]

can't think of others off the top of my head though

haven't played e1 though ftr

[livid cipher]

are there any weapons that are just like

not usable

i should know about

[ocean spindle]

all of the guns are perfectly viable usable and secure... except for one of each category
i mean they r still very much usable and perfect but just below the other ones
spear, precision rifle, bullpup rifle and shotgun sentry, tho im not sure of this last one

cause it got buffed last patch

and i dont know how cool is it now

[livid cipher]

i was using half of those 💀

[ocean spindle]

yeah
most of
new players do

[livid cipher]

bullpup and shotgun sentry

funny

[ocean spindle]

spear is great for learnin, but once u know the ropes u should
leave aside
bullpup is very newie friendly too and i like it cause the recoil is not existent, but the reload is very very long painful and excruciating and some stats people have said its below other guns, tho idk how

and the shotgun sentry is cause with biotracker it shoots overly fast, misses some shots, wastes other on corpses [cause it shoots when the target is dying] and just works nicely in more specific situations

tho with the ammo buffs im not sure how is it now

i used it once since the buff and i really didnt notice it

[livid cipher]

also, precision rifle?

which one is that

[ocean spindle]

um precision rifle is an special gun with a thermal sight on it, a red one
its just a bit meh cause it needs headshots to kill, has a very very low reload, it isnt a lot of raw damage [u cant down a big boy from the front with a mag i think] and doesnt have a lot of ammo

[livid cipher]

does sniper still 1 tap headshot the really tall men

[ocean spindle]

yes

[livid cipher]

good

[ocean spindle]

it also got an ammo buff funnily

but idk how many bullets

[turbid horizon]

really tall men XD

[ocean spindle]

they really tall!

[turbid horizon]

i will now refer to them as that

[livid cipher]

they are tall

[ocean spindle]

i call em mamalambas

[turbid horizon]

No longer giant or frank

[noble sierra]

I feel good about current shotgun sentry, actually

[turbid horizon]

Tall man

[livid cipher]

frank is really funny

[turbid horizon]

I only run it with no bio

[turbid horizon]

You should meet Pablo

[ocean spindle]

hah
pain :]

i wish i didnt

[livid cipher]

is pablo the ones that shoot at you

or is he something else

[turbid horizon]

Pablo is very special

[livid cipher]

i dont know much about this game

[turbid horizon]

He exists in only one level

[livid cipher]

so dont spoil

[ocean spindle]

its ok

[turbid horizon]

dw will not

[ocean spindle]

its just foreshadowin for u to fear it

[livid cipher]

[ocean spindle]

tho its not like that doesnt happen with every enemy tbf

i see 4 smols together and i shit my shirt and my pants together

[noble sierra]

PR is also good in many levels

[ocean spindle]

only in some specific, but ur usually better of with other weapons
i only use it in long, long darker levels

like [insert spoiler here]

but even so its just not great

i used it two days ago and i discovered i also still suck at aiming

i missed so many mags

[livid cipher]

do u not know how to spoiler?

[ocean spindle]

yes but i

wanted to do the joke :3

[livid cipher]

fair enough

[ocean spindle]

comedy wins me over

its my weakness

that and shrimps

[radiant roost]

hey, should I run smg or carbine for bots on main and arbalist or veruta for special (mostly regarding R2E1, im quite unfamiliar with what works best for them and whats the strongest currently between either of these after the new patch notes)

[cold quarry]

bots I run burst rifle/AR and veruta/Heavy AR

works nice

for r2e1 i'd definitely do the Veruta LMG, but I hope you're not trying to do it with 3 bots...

[ocean spindle]

do it with three bots, bet

[radiant roost]

yea about that.. lmao

🤣

[cold quarry]

have you gotten to the later segments, post-baby acquisition

3 bots is suicide

[ocean spindle]

nahhh

do it

be the superior player

[radiant roost]

ive gotten to the last scan but died there 3 times now

[cold quarry]

thats surprising

[radiant roost]

from like 25 plays maybe

[cold quarry]

do the bots still refuse to carry shit during combat?

[radiant roost]

yea

[cold quarry]

jesus, what a nightmare

[radiant roost]

ima try with the veruta then tyvm

[cold quarry]

yeah the most crowd control possible

[warm garnet]

hi ive just pick this game back up, any tips on R1C1? I play with bot btw

[cold quarry]

3 sentries + biotracker, or 4 sentries if you're feeling downright silly

[warm garnet]

done that but as soon as my health drop below 80% the bot just stop shooting and kept trying to use medkit on me 😦

[sage knot]

I would give bots hel revolver as main they can pull good DPS with that, plus the piercing as well. Otherwise carbine/AR/burst rifle works fine as well. Either machinegun are great for bots now they have pretty much same stagger power, arbalist reloads a bit faster and bots can't reload cancel so there's that. And yea I wouldn't do R2E1 with 3 bots, it can be done but even with perfect strats bots can just get dumb and try to melee during a surge and goes down together with your attempt which is a huge time waste

[cold quarry]

yeah that's just the bots being stupid. not much you can do about that

[hidden ridge]

Reminder in case someone does not know yet, when you drop down in R4C3, check the terminal ||it's on the right in the very room you drop in|| then LIST CELL, if there's ||only 4 Cells in the level||, restart it (if you're doing PE)

Yes I know you can grab a ||cell from overload|| but it's easier to do secondary first

[sage knot]

3 burst sentries/sniper sentries and stack them in the small room before the big room with bridge(the 2 are connected by a hole in the wall) , sentries facing south. Move all high use tool/ammo as close to the bridge room as close as possible so there's less running back later. NEVER defend in the reactor room it's the worst thing to do in this map.

[tame cloud]

When I played gtfo approximately half a year ago, there were other lfg channels, not just beginner.
How can I access them?

[latent obsidian]

I think you might have to select something in the channels and roles thing at the very very top of the channel list in order for the lfg channels to appear

[civic wave]

Or you LIST CELL E_26, 2 cells = fine, 1 cell is restart

[hidden ridge]

sure that works too

but I just finished that mess of a map so I'm very probably never gonna do it again

[radiant roost]

true but i think a good strat is if a bot goes down cause of meleeing a bit further away from me i just kick him out of the game rq and reconnect him and he comes back to life while ive managed to finish the surge scan meanwhile

its bad if he has sentry placed though obviously cause it will disappear

[icy cave]

You are tho

[patent ibex]

any new mask for R4?

[amber spindle]

Let's say I wanted to do R4E1

But I haven't unlocked it. Could I join someone else's lobby who is running it.

[civic wave]

yes

[minor fractal]

If you're genuinely a newer player, that might be a little bit rude, btw.

[civic wave]

anyone can join a lobby for any level

[minor fractal]

E-tier pubs are already pretty scuffed.

[amber spindle]

I'm not xd

Just askin for future ref

[minor fractal]

kk

[craggy pier]

putting no noobs in my E1 pubs

[craggy pier]

toxic elitist!!!!!!

[soft crater]

me when we had a guy who wanted to door glitch every single door (they didn't even do it correctly)

[latent cedar]

How many cells are in R4C3?

[minor fractal]

5

If you have 4 it 's bugged

and soft-locked

(for PE)

[latent cedar]

yeah we have 4 cells

[minor fractal]

F

[craggy pier]

whats the chance you get 4 cells

[icy cave]

On 2 tries we got it 0 times

[past mesa]

Idk but just another reason to do overload first

[craggy pier]

SO FUCKING TRUE

[civic mist]

I've had it happen that the cell in 266 only showed up after I listed all the cells and afterwards listed 266 again. Terminal was acting up.

[hardy grotto]

Big fan Lea

[past mesa]

MAssIve fan

[civic mist]

meow

[dry pumice]

Ignoring sniper rifle what are the 2nd and 3rd best giant removers?

By best I mean quick. Preferably when shooting them from behind while they're sleeping.

[ocean spindle]

probs burst cannon, chokemod since three from the back quick its
yea
fast

[past mesa]

Only need 2 choke mod shots

[ocean spindle]

ah

then i fail my pellets

dont do that

[past mesa]

Maybe lol

[neon gust]

Almost any special its a giant remover if you shoot quick enough

[past mesa]

Pretty much

[neon gust]

and use back damage to your favor

[dry pumice]

Lowest skill requirement possible

[neon gust]

burst canon

just aim stomach and let the recoil fly

[dry pumice]

Something to just go "oh fuck off" bang

[ocean spindle]

well
backwards stomach

since ur behind em

[neon gust]

i mean if getting behind its the thing

then ill bring pump shotgun

you got like 4 giant kills with back damage