gtfo-related-questions

[winged turtle]

oh neat, R3D1 is really refreshing, am excite for R6D4 then

[minor fractal]

Meanwhile, me and the boys blasting through w/ Sniper and Scattergun

The difference between R6 for vets and R6 for newer players was wild.

[upper ginkgo]

"guys we cant wake up the tank room in r6d3 or we're gonna die"

[mossy aurora]

😱

[upper ginkgo]

smh have to slog through r4 and r5 to get to the actual good content, r6

[spark wolf]

R3D1 no one saved the door for the first alarm RESET

[tardy ingot]

R6 sniper man

people just dont know what they missing with current sniper (same in the other way with og r2/r4 sniper tho)

[ocean spindle]

hehe

har

:]

[upper ginkgo]

r6 sniper was just a better chokemod

[tardy ingot]

ill hit you
and then cry

if it was cracked vs giants and had unlimited range

its funny when a single sniper made r6c1 giant zone go from scary for beginners to a meme

[minor fractal]

I still find it hilarious that the design philosophy for Sniper in R1 was for it to be worthless as a weapon.

How far it's come.

[tardy ingot]

i rly wish theyd try some buffs with it

basically according to what you outlined in your recent post

basically my thoughts on it

its not a bad gun rn
but a buff to 4 per refill would put it clean at least

[vague bridge]

i think sniper is really well balanced actually

[dry pumice]

Hm.

[tardy ingot]

uhh

[dry pumice]

Ammo is disgustingly scarce.

[tardy ingot]

i mean for the game itself, prob

in comparision to other guns

[dry pumice]

It could use like... Half an extra mag.

[tardy ingot]

look at burst cannon and choke

a gun as specialized as sniper never rly being "the choice" is not rly good balance imo

[dry pumice]

I mean...

[tardy ingot]

theres still situations where i actually take it over burst but those are usually time dependent...

[dry pumice]

What would be the selling point compared to something like BC.

The range?

[tardy ingot]

range, better vs any giant with a head crit

[vague bridge]

its more of a precision reward compared to the others

also that

[tardy ingot]

quicker in killing giants

[dry pumice]

Oneshoting hybrids in R1C1 all the way from reactor to hole in the wall?

[mossy aurora]

You can silent shot with sniper and not burst

😈

[tardy ingot]

BC generally cant 1 shot giants

from the front

[dry pumice]

Fair.

[tardy ingot]

but this rarely matters

if you wanna take the time (thats why i said time) the only time you cant safely finish off smth if you shot it with bc is a hybrid decently far away

r3a2 is like one of the levels where i take sniper and i wouldnt even touch it in a normal run of it

[vague bridge]

a..2?

[tardy ingot]

?

giant heavy blood door level

[vague bridge]

oh you mean like speedrun

[tardy ingot]

ye

[vague bridge]

i could see why

[tardy ingot]

we run 3 burst cannons and 1 sniper rn

with sniper being on "defense" duty

[next socket]

Is there a way you can stop bots from sharing resources during fights

Oml I have failed a rundown 3 times because the stupid mfers are like "here have some ammo 🙂 " while 3 chargers gang up on their ass

[vague bridge]

r1c2?

[dry pumice]

Nope, that's just part of who they are. They will refill you whenever you are below 60% on anything, no matter the climate.

[raven oar]

Is the game heavier on cpu

[minor fractal]

It's pretty hard on memory in my experience.

[cold quarry]

sadly no. they're incredibly stupid

[proud ice]

i get lots of gpu usage

[delicate vale]

Can someone play a specific rundown level if didn't pass the one before? Let s say I want to play R1B2 and I want to invite a player that had not finished R1B1.

[civic wave]

Yeah, as long as the host has the mission unlocked, anyone can join

[delicate vale]

Thank you very much!

[devout nimbus]

Why it feel like my cfoam nade always goes thru the enemies I throw it at in pub lobbies

[dry pumice]

the joys of being a client instead of a host

also they go too fast

stop charging them

just light throw

[tardy ingot]

might also throw it from too close

[vague bridge]

i remember throwing a foam grenade too close to the door

it bounced

[dry pumice]

Should've used Source.

[raven oar]

Can you search for personnel ids in the terminals

[open verge]

'Bold of you to assume that i will accept that filthy grenade on me'

[ocean spindle]

yes

[past mesa]

If you want to quickly check if a zone has ids you can list Id zone_xxx

The list command work by listing out using two filters. List filter1 filter2

[raven oar]

Ok ty

Fuck man I almost completed r1b1

Surprisingly easy compared to r1a1

But it’s like the bots are trying to spam revive me when a giant striker is right beside them

[past mesa]

Yeah r1b1 is much easier than r1a1

Good shit you got it the next time through

[raven oar]

Yeah I definitely will 100%. I was on the last section but I fucked up the body part stagger on the striker

[devout nimbus]

will we likely see the enemeies that have sounds in the files

like exploder

[icy cave]

Meaby in R8

[craggy pier]

can't wait for bulk detonator in R9

[weak root]

grenade launcher R10

[fierce nebula]

bazooka R10

[stable quiver]

Any way to remove the FOV decrease/zoom when aiming down sites. Is this a setting or config change I have missed?

[pastel quartz]

Maybe there’s a mod for it but I don’t think you can change ads FOV in the based game

Reason why I prefer the ADS from B4B or Darktide

In GTFO it feels like the scopes are taking over most of your screen

[ocean spindle]

good they r nice scopes /j

[vague bridge]

how long does it take to get ambassador

[craggy pier]

you have to reload cancel revolver 10 times in succession and send the clip to mod contact to earn ambassador role

[devout nimbus]

how to make my performance less ass when we get tped to the other planet

cuz lokey game feels great until i get thrown into arizona then I start to feel like 30 frames or somdin

[neon gust]

Nobody tell him

[past mesa]

You have to… then it works perfectly

[devout nimbus]

huh

yea ill try that

[stable quiver]

It's why I only play with pistols/revolvers. I find the FOV change caused by other weapons really breaks my immersion, especially when it is with an optic that dose not have any magnification like an iron site or red dot x1. I would love to see this added as a feature in settings like they have in STALKER Anomaly allowing the player to chose their preference or to disable it.

[raven oar]

You can quickscope to address this issue but it can definitely be improved on

Unfortunately, 10 Chambers 🤪💅

[raw jacinth]

||can hel weaponry pierce tank/mother blisters||

Spoilered since talking about specific enemies

[ocean spindle]

i dont think so

[ocean spindle]

i can understand with the other ones but the thermals r supposed to have some blind spots as u aim, if u could change it they would b significantly easy to use

[raven oar]

The precision rifle isn’t that good

That buff would unironically do it justice

And seeing how a player who is good enough can essentially invalidate the stealth part of the game

The trade off isn’t worth it for a fancy scope

[ocean spindle]

if u wanna buff that weapon u gotta look other areas give it back the 12 bullets

and the pdw is already nice

[raven oar]

It’s an indirect buff

Not a direct buff

[ocean spindle]

yeah so which one would b the best decision, givin it the direct buff and not the indirect one, or givin it the indirect one and not the direct one
even so if the answer is the second the pdw would just become a better weapon, cause even if u can rn just not aim with it cuse of the recoil, now u could and b even better

[raven oar]

It really depends

The entire idea is qol

And it isn’t necessarily a great impediment to gameplay from what I know

As such it probably won’t happen and the precision rifle will be buffed

Once rundown 8 releases will 10 chambers still balance things or are they gonna leave everything?

[past mesa]

The PR is just weak in general if you give it an okay reload time it would do it more justice

5 secs

[raven oar]

Wtf

I knew it was bad but not that bad

[ocean spindle]

7 and we have a deal

[raven oar]

Not even reload canceling can save that lmao

[past mesa]

Na it needs to be lower than burst cannon/ sniper

Literally insane people made this gun

[ocean spindle]

the termal or changin the fov fom the sights?

i cant really tell

[raven oar]

Just in general for the weapons that cover the whole screen when you scope in

[past mesa]

Yeah the PR biggest weakness is up time compared to dmg

[minor fractal]

PR basically already makes a lot of trade-offs for range and visibility

[past mesa]

2nd biggest weakness is the slot it competes with

[minor fractal]

So when it also gets a mag size reduction it's just horrible.

Reload is only 3.6s btw, but that's still absolutely massive.

[ocean spindle]

yeah that was the convo about but i think if it had a better buff like reload and mag, the thermal in change for the visibility is a nice touch

[past mesa]

Isn’t it longer than sniper still

[minor fractal]

Yes, by 0.1

Sniper is 3.5

[past mesa]

Still insane man

Like actually

[dry pumice]

I still don't get why they nerfed it...

12 bullets was perfect for that reload time

[past mesa]

12 bullets it was still weak

[dry pumice]

You could single handedly snipe a wave if conditions were good

That's 12 dead sleepers if your aim was good and then you finished off the rest with main

Now it's basically an inferior revolver

The nerf was too brutal frankly. Nerfing it to 10 probably would've been acceptable, but 8 feels disgusting.

[tardy ingot]

it didnt need a nerf lol

gun was already on the weak end

[past mesa]

Most specials can kill entire waves. (While still being good giant/charger answers) PR for special guns is pretty good against shooters shadows and shadow scouts. That is basically it tho. It’s wave clear isn’t its power

Never has been

[ashen quiver]

does matchmaking actually find games? or do you need friends, or matchmake here to find games?

It may sound stupid to ask, but I mostly meant, do people really use it?

[vague bridge]

most people use lfg

[ashen quiver]

ah

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[ashen quiver]

thanks brother

[dry pumice]

Yeah, in game matchmaking is useless because nobody uses it except for new players.
And then they come here asking why they can't find anyone and we explain it to them.
And the cycle continues.

[ashen quiver]

haha! Well, sorry to be that guy then!

[dry pumice]

It's fine, it's just the circle of life at this point.

Mm will only come alive if this discord server dies.

And then the game will die soon after, probably.

[hearty wren]

ive been walking around 52e for 30 minutes trying to find it

just searched the discord trying to find an answer xd

[raven oar]

Is r1b2 also easier than r1a1? @past mesa

[past mesa]

Ummm yes and no

Stealth shooters aren’t that scary

One extra alarm but they are all simpler than r1a1

But the extract on r1b2 is harder

[raven oar]

The extraction on r1b1 was a joke

I think I wiped out the whole map

Or something

Nothing even spawned

Outta there in like 20

🗿

[past mesa]

Yeah r1b1 extract has nothing

R1b2 has a tricky wave if you are doing it solo solo

Probs not anymore with helgun tbh

[raven oar]

I only run combat shotty and hel rev

Might start using dmr again

Both weapons are fun to use

[past mesa]

Still good guns

[raven oar]

Yup

[past mesa]

Dmr for this map might be fun

Lots of shooters

[raven oar]

Shooters are always funny to deal with dmr

I may not be able to see shit because it’s so damn zoomed in

[past mesa]

Yeah you will get used to it

[raven oar]

But I don’t need to when they’re all in front of me

[soft crater]

waiting so I can scattergun baby strikers

[past mesa]

I can’t wait for meme sawdoff scatter gun load outs

[mossy aurora]

goated loadout for r6d3

[past mesa]

Whoops I forget my sentry in the respawn room 🤪

[winged turtle]

BYO Error

[ocean spindle]

hip fire :]

[bold atlas]

the first time sub-missions came out was rundown 5?

like extreme and overload

[weary mesa]

R4

[bold atlas]

i see

[midnight gazelle]

Oh boy, R4 optional missions were interesting

So many unnecessary error alarms

[minor fractal]

The wild west of optional objectives.

[past mesa]

ERRORS are the best obj

[misty atlas]

Hey! So I'm a returning player from probably a couple years ago, is there anything I should know/research before joining/posting an LFG?

[past mesa]

Nope go into it

I would play an a1 by yourself to see the changes

[ocean spindle]

ask to not b carried, start on r1

i'm late but

:]

[tropic vine]

:,]

[ocean spindle]

[:

[still tinsel]

my team was working through R7B2. How do you verify the terminal uplink with the public key

[ocean spindle]

u input the command it says, UPLINK_VERIFY_
then, the terminal gives u a code other players can see in their hud, it'll b somethin like X07: ZZZZ
so u input that last word with the code
UPLINK_VERIFY_ ZZZZ
u don't need to input the X07, nor do an underscore, u just need to input the word

UPLINK_VERIFY CALL
for example

[still tinsel]

Oooh, got it. That makes sense. I thought I tried it with just the call but it's hard to be sure with everything swarming ya lol

Thanks for the assist

[ocean spindle]

haha discord doesn't go along with underscores
pain

[tropic vine]

can always count on imagine for help

[ocean spindle]

yes i count numbers very well

[tropic vine]

i can count them but cant remember them

[raven oar]

What’s asking to be carried

[ocean spindle]

u dont ask for it
but being carried means a player does everythin for u

[raven oar]

I mean

If they can solo a level

It’ll be hard for them to purposely play like shit so you can contribute

[ocean spindle]

yeah

say that to a newie

cmon

pro players dont let u learn, they solo all the sleepin rooms

u can only follow their orders and thats it

and thats just so bad

[raven oar]

I didn’t know gtfo had a pro scene

[past mesa]

it doesnt

[ocean spindle]

it kinda does

[past mesa]

no it really doesnt

[ocean spindle]

a bit
at least differnce of the fast clearin and the slow one

that kinda counts

if u can carry 2 or 3 players

[raven oar]

To be fair, the mechanic isn’t that hard to learn

[ocean spindle]

no but still its like- u dont do it like ur first rundown in

if no one tells u at least

[raven oar]

A bit of tinkering and watching enemy patterns and you’ll soon notice that when you trigger their “fuck around twice and I’m awake” they go on cooldown and can’t be awoken for a brief moment

That’s all you need to know to solo clear rooms and a bit of digging on the wiki to know you can undercharge both shooters and strikers and kill them instantly if you aim for the occiput

[ocean spindle]

yes but when they start runnin to the enemies

cmon

thats a pro

specially if the do it not awakenin other enemies

or if they bunnyhop

[raven oar]

Abusing the cooldowns lol

It’s not a hard concept to grasp

[ocean spindle]

either way doin it with a newie is just trash

let em learn the first things first

[raven oar]

The game’s difficulty isn’t even tied to the stealth

[ocean spindle]

then let em learn

[raven oar]

At a certain point

[ocean spindle]

for a newie issss cause they need the ammooooo

unless someone carries em

[raven oar]

The main difficulty is just aiming

Showing a player what they are capable of isn’t ruining the experience for them

[mossy aurora]

getting owned by someone who's been in the server for less than 2 weeks....

[raven oar]

That Soviet badger guy is pretty good

[ocean spindle]

the thing with carryin is just they do it, dont explain, they just go their sweet merry way
like at least let em do a couple rooms, let em play

[raven oar]

Been studying his vods on YouTube

💅

[ocean spindle]

the problem is not that they show like advice, the problem is when they just dont let other players do anythin and they take it as a challenge to just solo the level w/o em and just givin em orders

the best kind of players to join newies is when they let em kill a scour

clear rooms

do the strats for the alarm

and if they fail, tell em like 'mg maybe this sentry was a bit weird'

or ' we maybe could put a mine there'

let em learn like organically

let em discover the game

cause that is the fun of this game, gettin scared and learnin about it

and of course u can give advice, but also let the player play the game

[raven oar]

I’d be glad honestly

Even more if the guy tells me his tricks of the trade

Free cosmetic + important knowledge

Good deal to me

[ocean spindle]

i guess thats u then, but i hated goin into this game knowin it all

it wouldve been so fun to learn it

thats why i went to a lot of streamers and youtubers videos n lives

to see em play, let em learn, but give some advice when they struggle

[raven oar]

Stealth isn’t even the big part of the game

Lmao

It literally makes no difference because the stealth is such a joke

😭

[ocean spindle]

it is for newieees how do i explain to u that a newie DOES CROUCH

AND STUFF

thats fun to do!

and when u get tired u can run to melee enemies

but first let em have their fuuuun

and if u tjink its awful

thats valid

everyone thinks differently

but i just personally love the stealth, and im prob not alone

so at least see if they like it

[past mesa]

badger? is this you

[ocean spindle]

badger badger badger mushroom mushroom
ba badger badger badger badger bagder

[raven oar]

Shameless plug 💅

[raven oar]

I mean

Lmao

[ocean spindle]

lmao

[raven oar]

If I’m low I do that too

Otherwise I run up

Minecraft emote

Proc the little alarm

Kill

[ocean spindle]

what do u mean newies play like newies??????????????????
newies play like the TUTORIAL TEACHES EM TO??????????????????????????????

wUUUUUUUUUTH

yeah

idk how else to say it

[hardy grotto]

badger very good player

[ocean spindle]

badger very cool flash animation

... idk if it was flash

but i guess it was

[raven oar]

Man how the fuck does this fiora kill me in my own wave when she wastes riposte on my Q

[ocean spindle]

skill issue

[past mesa]

it is probs because of vitals.

[raven oar]

Yeah I just solod her it’s winnable

[past mesa]

+300

now your on your way to winning the game

[civic wave]

Put a backslash before each underscore

Also I think that badger guy was watching me last night but didn't say hi, he's very rude

[fierce nebula]

_bruh_

*discord is broken*

[exotic veldt]

do you start a solo by just kicking out the bots and putting it to players only?

or is there smth else

[ocean spindle]

u can also put it so its blocked

but thats it

u go in alone

:]

[exotic veldt]

yeah

solo?

[ocean spindle]

solo

alone

[exotic veldt]

yeah

[ocean spindle]

solitude

yeah

:]

[exotic veldt]

okay im j making sure <3

[ocean spindle]

... the rest is tryin not to die ksks

[exotic veldt]

i haven't played this game much

[ocean spindle]

its ok, idk why u would try solo bein newie but sure ksks its a nice practice

i guess

[exotic veldt]

oh you shouldn't do solo

[ocean spindle]

ah not that u shouldnt is more that is hard as fuck

[exotic veldt]

OH

1 more question should i go the bio scan? its useful but then i want the sentry

[ocean spindle]

bioscan in a group is super nice, on a bot is super incredible, but on solo...

u want the

firepower

tho sometimes the tool can vary dependin on the lvl

[exotic veldt]

ok imm try the sentry this time

[ocean spindle]

im guessin u doin r1a1 so
... idk :] idk solo runs

[exotic veldt]

r1b1 :]

[tardy ingot]

game basically isnt balanced for solo

you still get the same amount of enemys

[exotic veldt]

oh fr?

[tardy ingot]

yep

[ocean spindle]

ah b1 is easier yei

yeah maybe
mines or sentry? me no pro but

those should work

[exotic veldt]

should i look to clear every room or just the essentials

like in the r1a1 the rooms i didn't clear were SOOO infested

[tardy ingot]

clear what you need to clear

[exotic veldt]

ok

[ocean spindle]

the essentials, unless its an alarm then clear two rooms away

cause enemies b spawnin 2 rooms away

:D

[tardy ingot]

you can basically stealth past all but like 3 rooms if you wanted to

[exotic veldt]

hmm i see

[tardy ingot]

technically even all but 1 (the big beginning room)

then again, playing with bots will make your life easier

[ocean spindle]

true solo is the funkier harder experience

[lunar rain]

Learning solo isn’t as fun as it may seem

[ocean spindle]

but with bots u get their firepower

u can use em sneak in rooms and if u do omethin wrong they can help u fix it

before the room alerts

they have tools

[exotic veldt]

oh ok ok

[ocean spindle]

i would say u do one like solo solo solo

then one with bots

[lunar rain]

Basically extra hands

[exotic veldt]

yeah idk i thought solo was like what u needed to do

or if u have friends online

[ocean spindle]

u can find people in the discord too!

in this discord ksks

[exotic veldt]

:3 yeah i noticed

[tardy ingot]

games basically made to be played with 4 people. Tho 2 real players is the minimum you need if you wanna avoid cheesing/using glitches

[ocean spindle]

yeh so in case bot runs get super hard n stuff, u can always head there

as a bot solo player, yeah i
i cant do all missions even if i had the best aim ever ksmdk

i got stuck on r2 c and d tier

[exotic veldt]

XD

[tardy ingot]

thats partly skill based tho

[ocean spindle]

d2 is no skill is hell :]
... well it is skill but

it is too much skill

like 7 gallons

american gallons

[vague bridge]

7 gallons of.. skill?

[ocean spindle]

yes
unfiltered if possible

[craggy pier]

I always wondered why you use those acronyms at the end of some phrases

No offense but they sound like a snake trying to beatbox

[ocean spindle]

its a 'lol' but modern, keysmashin

[craggy pier]

Same thing with people ending words in "-ge"

[ocean spindle]

its just laugh but worse

[craggy pier]

ah ok

[ocean spindle]

... ge?
tablege

that doesnt sound good

end the words in gay

much better

[dry pumice]

I prefer "kek" myself

[ocean spindle]

i dont like twitch n 4chan talk n that kinda stuff
i dont use acronyms like those apart from lmao

[wooden loom]

i have an alarm door that i need to start, but there is also a blood door in the same room, is it fine to just leave the blood door alone assuming that enemies wont destroy it?

[craggy pier]

sec doors cant be destroyed

[ocean spindle]

yeah

blood doors wont open nor anythin unless u activate em

[wooden loom]

oh ok

thanks

[ocean spindle]

open both for extra funs :D

[wooden loom]

lol

[ocean spindle]

/j

[wooden loom]

should do that if i ever manage to play with close friends

[ocean spindle]

u might die but could b fun smdk

[wooden loom]

yea its only R2B1, its proving to be pretty easy even with bots

[ocean spindle]

it took me a couple of tries cause of the alarm

i was strugglin at the end

[ocean spindle]

soo how did yall ended up naming the big striker 'frank' again?

[woven sentinel]

How come there is a rule to not do older rundowns?

[ocean spindle]

so rn we have ALT rundowns
those are the ones in the game, they r old rundowns but slightly changed with some new rooms enemies n stuff
but the old, original rundowns that came out 1 2 or 3 years ago
those u cant play

those needs mods n stuff

[woven sentinel]

Ohhh okay i was confused because i need to start from the beginning XD

so i was wondering if id have to do them on my own even though im terrified even during the tutorial

[ocean spindle]

nah nah ksks dont worry
u can search for help in r1 n stuff
also yes the tutorial was horrifyin for everyone the first time dont worry :]

me scared of the one single enemy in the room, then being throwed to another with 4

thank u gtfo

[woven sentinel]

XDD

thank u so much

[ocean spindle]

its oki :]

[woven sentinel]

Another question

when talking about regions do i just say EU or is it any different in GTFO?

[jagged shore]

use the relevant lfg chat

[woven sentinel]

Ahhh i just found it, thanks

[jagged shore]

unless you mean more specific than that lol

[winged turtle]

oh! ya, never touch mm, it will break your heart

[woven sentinel]

i saw random numbers by each lfg so i was just confused

[jagged shore]

presumably the lobby codes?

[ocean spindle]

yes :]

#how-to-matchmake

those r the instructions on the messages on the lfg

[bold atlas]

why is E1 in R7 not highlighted in Orange like A1,B1,C1,D1 and D2?

[ocean spindle]

orange missions r story missions, they r very focused on it
and even tho e1 could b considered one, its just a little extra for the whole thing and u could skip it, so its not a story mission

same goes with c3, it has some details of the lore but its skippable

u could live w/o knowin it

[topaz anvil]

I'm pretty behind on what R7D2 even achieved lore wise

[ocean spindle]

u uploaded the trojan

i mean

id say is the most important part of the story in the whole rundown and maybe the game

but

:]

[topaz anvil]

You are also talking to a person who has only got back into vanilla to play the alt rundowns and then return to modded

It's been like 1000000000000000000 years since I last played D2

[ocean spindle]

then specify before u say somethin like that ksmdk
i just thought u didnt paid attention not that u played other 70 missions

/lh

[topaz anvil]

I want to go to the surface ;c

[ocean spindle]

never :D

[topaz anvil]

wanna tackle some of the upper levels of the complex, some of the more administrative rooms

Locate the warden's room

[ocean spindle]

never :D

jk

[topaz anvil]

Fill his locker with gum

[ocean spindle]

i want r8 to not only b fkin brutal, but to be like that for that lore reason

[topaz anvil]

Yeah good luck with that lmao

[ocean spindle]

like the warden knows somethin is wrong

so

its not a hard like rope to connect ksks

[topaz anvil]

You need 3 things to happen

1. the devs need to make r8,
2. the devs need to make a hard rundown,
3. the devs need good level design

[ocean spindle]

yes cause obv the devs arent makin r8

:]

that would never happen

true
we never gettin alt r4 either

[raven oar]

Are the designated spawn points of enemies randomized during an alarm

Or are they the exact same

[ocean spindle]

depends on the alarm, but enemies spawn two rooms away from ur position
so if u r in a room with only one door, they r gonna go through that one door
but if u got two, they usually go by the one that has less resistance, less defenses

[raven oar]

Ok

Ty

[ocean spindle]

haha spam

[mossy aurora]

depends on what, generally the rule is 2 rooms away, but reactors, uplinks, and specific alarms can have spawns that break that rule

[ocean spindle]

ah true too some missions say 'two rooms my nuts' and then spawn em funkily

but those b exceptions

[spark wolf]

if they didn't rerelease all the old stuff and actually kept going

they wouldn't be exceptions

they'd start being pretty normal

[ocean spindle]

mh but usually its more the levels that spawn normally

[mossy aurora]

r7 had two 1 room away spawn alarms right?

[ocean spindle]

i remember one, the b tier... no i do remember the two

but the b3 wasnt a room away, was right there

[mossy aurora]

was the class X charger in d1 a 1 room spawn

i dont remember

[ocean spindle]

ah then idk

but b1 has one, b3 had another one

has

has another one

[mossy aurora]

which alarm in r7b3 has a 1 room spawn

the hsu initial spawn?

[ocean spindle]

yeah

but i dont think its a room away is it

its just in the same room

[spark wolf]

so its in all the B tiers because uplinks have special rules too

its also on all the D tiers because the waves for D2 have it too

so its not rly that exceptional is it

[ocean spindle]

do they spawn one room away too? in b2?

i didnt know that

i could swear it had normal spawns

huh

then yeah i guess not

[spark wolf]

the uplinks are same zone and 2 rooms

rather than just 2 rooms

[mossy aurora]

D2 they spawn 1 room?

[ocean spindle]

but thats comes into pkay at some point?

well

[spark wolf]

they spawn more than 2

a bunch of them are set to 3 or 4

[ocean spindle]

yeah d2 just spawns
very funkily

[spark wolf]

or at least were originally but they modified the level a couple times

[mossy aurora]

I see

[ocean spindle]

but i guess, in b2 the same zone only comes into play in determined spots
like if in the first one they spawn under the ladder

[spark wolf]

or if you try to be smart based on the 2 room info

and then block too much in the zone so it changes to 1 room

[ocean spindle]

ah great
but well
either way when a swarm is gonna spawn, i guess the better strategy is to prepare for it like a normal alarm
in ur room n thats about it

[raven oar]

How do I effectively deal with alarm class 4 (bots only)

Should I still be taking dmr

I feel like I need some kind of broken wave clear

[low willow]

Are you talking about R1C2?

[raven oar]

R1b2

[ocean spindle]

mhh that level is actually not bad with the dmr

[low willow]

DMR is fine if you can hit your shots

[raven oar]

I can

[low willow]

It's actually one of the better levels for it because of all the shooters

[ocean spindle]

yeah

[low willow]

But here's what I'd recommend

[raven oar]

What usually happens is the security checkpoints are in such a bad position

So now my entire bot team is dead

And I have to 1v9 an entire horde with half my ammo count

[low willow]

-Save the door in the room for the class 4, you should be fine with the class 2 without
-Give bots burst rifle/machinegun (veruta). They are the best weapons for bots, apparently. At least you won't need to worry about one sniping you.
-Focus on the scans, even if it means you can't shoot anything

[ocean spindle]

yeah never give the bots short range weapons nor aim precision weapons
automatics with long range work the best with em

so heavy assault rifles and machineguns b nice

... also
bot team dead?

[low willow]

The machineguns work better than the heavy AR

[ocean spindle]

i guess they mean 20%

[mossy aurora]

if dmr is fine for solo w/o bots, its fine for solo w/ bots

[ocean spindle]

mh idk how they work with the arbalist
i just remember that excel page with the stats of weapons, and i think it only had the veruta

[low willow]

Bots shouldn't be dying that fast though. Wave clearing is their specialty, and they seem to make health last a lot longer than players do, from my experience trying to solo things with bots

[ocean spindle]

if u keep ur distance yes

try to get away from enemies, dont let em come close

[low willow]

Arbalist is closer to heavy AR stat-wise

[ocean spindle]

cause then bots go into melee and if there are more than 2 or 3, the bots will suffer

otherwise they r super nice

[low willow]

More damage, less ammo compared to Veruta

[ocean spindle]

no yeah but idk which one works better with em
i guess maybe the machinegun yeah

[raven oar]

Oh damn I’ve been running the arbalist

Makes sense

And I’ve been running pdw/arbalist for bots

[ocean spindle]

yeah when u run bots, u want the power they can have, shotguns, snipers
in this level u dont need it, so its perfectly fine, but for later levels u might wanna start doin that change

this level is nice with the machineguns

[mossy aurora]

If scans are in a bad spot, you might consider clearing enemies first, then finishing scans

Unless it's a surge alarm, you will have some breathing space after clearing the wave that's on you

[ocean spindle]

its r1b2

idk if there are

surges

[vague bridge]

no there are not

[ocean spindle]

would b fun

[vague bridge]

rundown 1 b tier surge

[mossy aurora]

There is not, but the concept of clear first then scan doesn't always apply, that's the point I'm trying to make

[ocean spindle]

i just always go for scans
ill clear when im in it
unless its the battery chargers

then i do play differently cause i need to

cause the bots go down if i dont

[vague bridge]

battery chargers?

[ocean spindle]

u can guess what im talkin about

[mossy aurora]

I'm not surprised....

[ocean spindle]

u only need one of those two words

[ocean spindle]

yeah bots b not
happy with them

[vague bridge]

you don't have to be so cryptic about it

[raven oar]

😭

[ocean spindle]

i just like namin em that

but the other one u can see perfectly ok why

bots go into melee when enemies r close and then u suddenly wake up in the lobby again

[vague bridge]

which is why i have yet to complete c2 with bots

and even the thought of r3c1 bots gives me the trembles

[ocean spindle]

i tryin to do r3c1 hahahahahaaaa
but

in c2

i think the best loadout is two snipers one bio and mines

u dont really need cfoam

since in the last stretch its not super incredibly useful

and its better to just mine one of the entries a heck ton

since u get thousands of tool

[vague bridge]

and probably a lot of shotgunning

[hardy grotto]

Hm

[ocean spindle]

yeah
pump shotgun works nice cause of the reload

but the hel shotgun works wonders cause of the stagger

i wonder how would autopistol work there

[vague bridge]

i took hel shotgun and choke mod on my winning r3c1 run

(w/ plrs)

[ocean spindle]

hey im runnin those weapons in that level too
i just need to go for the last scout as fast as humanly possible

... also whats plrs

[raven oar]

You can guess

😭

[ocean spindle]

i mean yes and i think ik but i wanna make sure

this b not my first language

if u

couldnt tell

[vague bridge]

players

[ocean spindle]

yeah ok i guessed correctly thenk u :3

such a funky way of sayin it tho

[vague bridge]

i wanted to save half a second

[ocean spindle]

hope u use that second amazingly

[vague bridge]

i used it to lurk in the chat a little bit longer

[jagged shore]

th thgs we cn do in our lifs frm shvng scns tpng

[low willow]

the people that seem to have all the time in the world to do what they need to do are the people that type u instead of you

[jagged shore]

Idk about that lol

[craggy pier]

I did it with bots twice and I dont find it hard tbh

Kinda depends a bit on a couple of factors but bots do not get infected and they delete chargers with guns very easily

As always, knowing beforehand the possible HSUs locations you need helps, but I still don't feel like it's that hard

Maybe getting scout in the last room can throw a wrench in your plan by having the horde spawn there and waking everything up+scout wave

To be fair I didnt even try stealthing those sections, triggered error, killed first wave, opened, proceeded to shoot everything, scout gets hel gunned in occiput and I just rush to the HSU

After that it's just a matter of not trying to fight charger wave in shitty places

I usually kill one wave right before the fog area starts, then I just rush to the exit

I think the only pivotal moment of that map is just clearing the zone with the error without making a mess in the process

[vague bridge]

sounds simple on paper

but chargers run in for the slap

and bots do their little melee thing

so you'd have to snap them off every charger along the way

[tacit zealot]

what guns

[ocean spindle]

normal and chokemod shotgun can oneshot em, hel rifle, hel shotgun staggers very well, hel gun would work nicely in corridors or swarms

[tardy ingot]

standard pump shotty is a bit scuff due to spread (you need to hit all pellets for a 1 tap)

[tacit zealot]

for bots?

[ocean spindle]

ah nono

[tacit zealot]

im asking what weapons are good for bots

[ocean spindle]

bots work with automatic long range guns, machineguns and assault rifles r the best

[tacit zealot]

for chargers

[tardy ingot]

dont expect them to deal with chargers well

[ocean spindle]

nope

[tardy ingot]

having them stagger with machine guns is already enough usually

[tacit zealot]

I mean

[tardy ingot]

since a hel gun will melt a wave anywax

[tacit zealot]

ffs

[ocean spindle]

dont let em come close, thats the best gun for bots againts chargers

stagger em and dont let em get near u at any cost

cause otherwise they go into melee

and they die

[tacit zealot]

cause the guy said bots delete chargers with guns very easily

And I was asking him what guns

Thank you two both for the really helpful answers

ffs

[tardy ingot]

i mean they „should“ still deal with them well if you give them hel rifle i guess?

[tacit zealot]

Maybe

[tardy ingot]

only gun thats a pin point 1 shot with good range

[tacit zealot]

I haven't really tested that

With good stagger huh

[tardy ingot]

but then they have a pierce gun that does 60 dmg to you

[tacit zealot]

What do you think of Hel gun ammo tho

[tardy ingot]

only vs giants. Since it 1 taps every non giant enemy

[ocean spindle]

yes but wouldnt hel rifle b like the worst choice there compared to a
chokemod or somethin ksmdk

[tacit zealot]

Hi jish

[past mesa]

Hello

[tacit zealot]

🥰

jish....washer...

[tardy ingot]

they miss a pellet -> no kill

[tacit zealot]

[past mesa]

I have a stat math test in 25 mins

[tacit zealot]

Good luck

[ocean spindle]

mh i guess
but the problem would b the rest of the level

[tacit zealot]

👨‍❤️‍💋‍👨

I have maths assignment due in 6 hours

Chilling

[tardy ingot]

just give bots stagger and delete the chargers with hel gun

hel gun fixed all your problems

[past mesa]

Yeah man I get the most stressed right now

About the bot issue

[tacit zealot]

Do breathing exercise jish

very based for exam technique

I mean Eugene is a big fan

[tardy ingot]

math test? You got that jish!

[tacit zealot]

jish when do we play again

[ocean spindle]

good luck
fuck that test

[tacit zealot]

[ocean spindle]

gtfo gif attempt

[past mesa]

We play soon

[tacit zealot]

[past mesa]

R3d1 duo moments

[tacit zealot]

Monkas

Sorry, I prefer R7D1 snatcher spawn cap lobby

[tardy ingot]

sub 20

[past mesa]

13 seconds

Very sad

[tardy ingot]

you got that one the next one

i believe

[craggy pier]

Oh I get it

It's one of those question where it doesn't matter what I answer it'll get critiqued

I dont want to dig the screenshot I have but usually I just give them Burst Rifle/MGs? Let me check

[tacit zealot]

No i'm gen curious llol

I don't know what to give bots

the other guys weren't that helpful ;-;

Cause I tried R3C1 with bots and got assraped by chargers at the end

Which MG?

[ocean spindle]

wow too much internet calm down

its ok

[lusty bramble]

Veruta MG + any high eff primary

I think some people use dmr since bots can be cracked with it occasionally

[craggy pier]

I'd really like to know why I can only see my Screenshots at a shit resolution but

[tacit zealot]

Headshot huh

[craggy pier]

ok then my bad

[lusty bramble]

Yeah they headshot

[craggy pier]

One run was bots had AR/MG (endscreen doesn't specify if Veruta or Arbalist but I think I gave them veruta)

[lusty bramble]

They are just walking sentries

[craggy pier]

the other screenshots is 42min, all bots have Burst Rifle and BCs

[tacit zealot]

Lmao BC on bots

thats based

I'll try that

[lusty bramble]

They love to burst cancel

[tacit zealot]

Fr

[craggy pier]

Well that does explain why they were deleting them tbh

[tacit zealot]

[lusty bramble]

If bots consistently burst cancel, then just run full bc across bots

[worldly perch]

they burst cancel on a giant that is 3 meters in front of them too

when you want them to spray bullets, they just don't

[mint harness]

can shadows trigger mines

[ocean spindle]

yep

[mint harness]

excellent

[ocean spindle]

they can also b shot by sentries if u tag em with bio :]

[mint harness]

knew that part, but couldn't find info on how they treat trip wires

preciate the heads up B)

[ocean spindle]

its okii

[patent gust]

Do fog repeller boosters affect fog turbines?

[turbid horizon]

yes

they very much do

but

the person with the boosts needs to pick up the turbine, let it charge to full, drop it, have another player pick it up, charge to full, drop, give back to booster, and repeat for each player

there's a weird bug with fog repulsion power

[dry pumice]

Excuse me

[winged turtle]

is this in order to make the boosters take effect? or to exploit it and make it super charged?

[dry pumice]

Wtf is that

Is that an exploit? Sounds like an exploit.

[ocean spindle]

sounds like to make the booster do its thing

[winged turtle]

so does fixing the snatcher count fix for R7D1 ovl, it could go either way

[dry pumice]

The latter is self defense against a bugged game, that's fair.

[turbid horizon]

take effect

they don't work for the other players if you don't do this

idk why, we found this out bc I loved running FRP in R6C2 but my friends were constantly getting fogged when I saw them out of fog, and we figured this out

[winged turtle]

thats baffling lol, but i think i witnessed it, two players thought the edge of the fog was at different places. turns out because it was

[turbid horizon]

it's weird as fuck but it isn't an exploit

it just makes fog repulsion power with turbines work

[winged turtle]

necessary to sync up your booster effect to host+each client

[turbid horizon]

yeah, annoying and I'm sure it throws off a lot of newbies

[dry pumice]

Oof

Best game

[winged turtle]

imma about to take these into R2B4 to test if its per turbine

[turbid horizon]

[patent gust]

Thanks for the answer 🙏

[past mesa]

You know this is a cool bug

Probably won’t ever run into it but random useful information

[tardy ingot]

Depends on the situation. If the room/area around the scout is otherwise clear, just charge the hammer -> sprint at the scout -> jump and hit his head

It takes confidence, but its pretty easy.
If enemys are around the scout, you probably would want to wait for it to move else where or shoot it tho (which can be done by a lot more weapons than sniper/hcp btw)

[past mesa]

Yeah

[ocean spindle]

yep

[past mesa]

Yeah you got it

There are some * that exist

[tardy ingot]

basically

theres multiple ways it can trigger (scream)

[past mesa]

But you got the idea

[tardy ingot]

but the tendrils need to get sucked back in after touching you

[ocean spindle]

also the guns that can kill a scout in the head are
shotgun, chokemod, hel rifle, high cal pistol, sniper, precision rifle and burst cannon [tho burst cannon can fron any part of the body, doesnt need a headshot]
the guns that can kill it from the back of the head r hel gun, combat shotgun [risky, multiple shots needed], revolver and main rifle [risky, multiple shots needed]

did i forgot somethin

[past mesa]

Don’t you just barrel stuff the back with combat shotgun

[tardy ingot]

Hel gun, combat shotgun, revolver all just cleanly 1 tap in the back of the head

and so can some others if you shoot once or even twice

[ocean spindle]

... i have no idea i never tried
but i would guess its more more risky

[past mesa]

Na it is really safe

[tardy ingot]

well duh its more risky with a close range shotgun to the back of the head

[ocean spindle]

ah combat can one shot?

nice

ah sorry skdmksd

noo my list of weapons AAAAA /j

[past mesa]

Yeah no worries high cal doesn’t have the longest range

[tardy ingot]

highcal rly isnt that good at it long range

since it has awfully short range

[ocean spindle]

high cal has like, shotgun kind of range

[past mesa]

Faster I be

[vague bridge]

or alternatively

[ocean spindle]

yeah me neither, i dont like havin to headshot shooters

[vague bridge]

take the knife and hit the occiput

[tardy ingot]

ammo is fineish

[past mesa]

Lower right knife hit box 🤮

[vague bridge]

you can sprint nearby and trigger tendriling, then the open area that has no postules is the occiput

i like to aim a little above that for safety

[past mesa]

🤢

[vague bridge]

im sorry

hammer is just bad

[tardy ingot]

wat

[vague bridge]

too bad for my liking*

its too methodical

[past mesa]

You just have a skill issue

[mossy aurora]

Coz do you animation cancel your knife swing by shoving after?

[past mesa]

Stop there is no point

Lost cause

[spark wolf]

WHEN WILL THEY FIX THE CANCEL BUG

WHY DOES IT SHOVE WHEN I RIGHT CLICK WHILE CHARGING

[ocean spindle]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

ANOTHER ONE

HAMMER IS TRAAASH

[ocean spindle]

HAH

:D

[raven oar]

L take

Also

Is pdw good

[ocean spindle]

yeah sure also nah bat supremacy u just weak :] /lh
i always say no guns bad guns

they r all usable

just depends on ur taste

[raven oar]

Even if everything is viable, there are still weapons that are objectively better

[ocean spindle]

yes but thats boring

i wont play all my runs with the hel revo and no one can make me

ill stick to my assault rifle and smg

[vague bridge]

this guy plays autos

[raven oar]

Having a meta in place doesn’t force anyone to use the same weapons

Lol

[ocean spindle]

yes thank u

ah woops i didnt ping

[past mesa]

pdw is pretty good

a teir pick

[ocean spindle]

there :]

[raven oar]

There we go

[ocean spindle]

it was for u

[raven oar]

An actual answer

Is it ammo efficient too

[ocean spindle]

ill fuck off then

[past mesa]

yeah not as much as carbine/ hel rev. and machine pistole is crazy for efficy put pdw is very good for stealth and shadows

much better than smg

at the very least\

[main dagger]

is the bullpup rifle any good?

[ocean spindle]

the reload is very long, and if u have teammated to back u up with it it can be usable

usually there r other that can b more worth, but if u like the recoil or feel of it, its usable

just has that handicap

[main dagger]

right, I've been using it constantly for a while and was wondering if there was anything that had a similar feel to it

[ocean spindle]

the assault rifle can b similar, it has same kind of vibes with the recoil n ammo

[past mesa]

just use the burst rifle

[ocean spindle]

the pdw too

ok

and the burst rifle

i dont like it

:D

[main dagger]

anything that isn't burst fire, I hate pulse weapons

[ocean spindle]

ah then yeah one of those
just try guns out

try all of em

its the best way to kinda see what u like

and what u dont

[past mesa]

then Assault rifle

[ocean spindle]

[or pdw]

[or machinepistol even if it isnt similar at all]

[but is very cool]

[main dagger]

I'll give them a try, thanks

[ocean spindle]

yeah good luck :>

[proud patio]

Will GTFO be on sale again? my firend wants to join xd

[ocean spindle]

maybe when alt:// rundown 4 drops
but we have no idea

idek if R3 had a sale

[tardy ingot]

Pdw is actually more efficient than carbine/non pen hel revo

but youd need perfect bullet control for that

[ocean spindle]

this is a stupid question considerin the amount of time ive known bout the game but
r artifacts indidivual or they count to all the group? when comeone grabs a muted artifact, does it count for all 4 or only to the person grabbin it?

[arctic marten]

it counts for everyone except the person who grabbed it

[ocean spindle]

thank u r2d1 very r2d1 from u

[dry pumice]

Ignore him

[ocean spindle]

ik

[dry pumice]

For everyone.

[ocean spindle]

dont worry

[dry pumice]

It's a teamwide pick up.

[arctic marten]

why would you be so rude to me :(

[dry pumice]

Fucking imagine if we had to call people "hey theres an artifact here!"

And then have mid game arguments if they need it or not

[ocean spindle]

weird, i always believed it was individual but i guess i was just always wrong

[dry pumice]

This is a good call on 10c. People just pick them up and call it a day.

Warframe had this issue too and they came to the same conclusion.

I mean... I could be wrong.

[hardy grotto]

People are so rude these days

[dry pumice]

But I'm 99% sure that you get a UI pop up for artifact progress when someone else picks it up.

[arctic marten]

i hope its fixed in cyberheist

[dry pumice]

I love being a dedicated artifact collector.

I always find myself a large flashlight and just scan rooms.

[ocean spindle]

yeah i was just like 'ah yes thats the individual count'
since
when one people plays one more run and they met again its different

[dry pumice]

Why would you get a UI progress for someone else...

Now you're just putting doubts in my head.

[ocean spindle]

idk, just as a 'hey this person did the thing'

[low willow]

"this person STOLE your muted artifact and there's NOTHING you can do about it!!"

but no, everyone gets them.

i believe heat is also per-person so you may get different amounts out of the same artifact, but not sure on that

[minor fractal]

Heat's per person, yeah.

Per person, per level.

[bold atlas]

is you don't do the secondary for R7C3, will shadows spawn during the alarm portion?

[ocean spindle]

i dont think so
i think shadows spawn then u input the command
but i could be wronjjjj

[cinder notch]

LF tips on R3A3, we got to what feels like the last 5% of the mission, but there were about a dozen hybrids and giants coming after us, assuming maybe we made some bad plays for it to get that bad?? we took about an extra wave or two finding the computers

[ocean spindle]

well the best way to find the last terminal is to
rush it
u know the way by now, dont spend a lot of time in the preparation of the alarm, go in for as fast as u can
i dont remember a lot the last zone but if u find a terminal that isnt it ping it as soon as possible or have ur team like split n find it
dont b afraid of usin a bit more ammo, theres a lot in the level
and of course if u havent, have some of ur team with big weapons, hel rifle sniper burst cannon shotguns, those all r super helpful for the last stretch

[vague bridge]

the last terminal is in the center of the reactor room

and the code on it is displayed at the top of the screen

[tardy ingot]

if the issue you had were the massive wave of giants in the last wave, thats normal and will happen every time

Some advice is either getting a good setup with your team and just overpowering them with enough firepower or setting one guy on sniper (or burst cannon) duty which kills/severly weakens them per shot

[ocean spindle]

is r2b2 the first level where cells appear?

[earnest trout]

what's your top 5 guns?

[ocean spindle]

mhhhhhhh...
machinepistol
hel shotgun
normal pistol
heavy assault rifle
...
and special mastaba revolver probs

[minor fractal]

Which slot?

Main, probably Carbine, HEL Revo, PDW, DMR, and Rifle.

Special, Burst Cannon and HEL Gun top spots easily, behind that probably Veruta MG, Combat Shotgun, and Pump Shotgun.

[soft crater]

muh arbalist

[minor fractal]

For what I actually like playing tho, I prefer Revo and Arbalist over the shotties.

[neon gust]

bullpup, presicion rifle, dmr, combat shotgun, arbalist

[past mesa]

Smg Spear shotgun sentry auto sentry pistol

[lunar otter]

can we get the old music from rundown 3-6 back plzzzz

[minor fractal]

No, old music from R1-2

[lunar otter]

both

plz bring both back

[solemn flint]

for main we have carbine, hel shotty, hel rev, pdw( if they remove the 3x thermal scope and replace it with 2x thermal scope or even better 1x thermal scope it would be damn good of a weapon), assalt rifle

[solemn flint]

for special my choice it would be heavy ar( please dont spray and pray, the recoil would be controlable with single shot), revover, Buckland S870 shotty(all 3 of the shotty in special are good, but i love the Buckland S870 because of the feeling when u shoot), high cal pistol( a bit hard to control, but have the magnum vibe which make it fun to use) and sniper

hel gun, hel rifle and burst cannon are also good, but i personally dont like it because of the short charge before fire

[mossy aurora]

brother u listed 10 guns in a top 5 list......

[solemn flint]

idk what catalog is he asking

main or special or both

[mossy aurora]

u listed 10 specials though....

[solemn flint]

i mean like

[mossy aurora]

har, revolver, pump shotty, choke shotty, combat shotty, revolver, high cal, sniper, hel gun, hel rifle, burst canon....

[solemn flint]

i did list 5

[ocean spindle]

those last three r a stretch to include and he only mentioned the buckland s870

critique with the bwain /lh

[solemn flint]

and a few was suppose to be in the list if not because of personal reason

[fierce nebula]

due to personal reasons I consider myself god

and you're all peasents

[icy cave]

peasants, you illiterate god

[rapid sparrow]

Is it not possible to make bots carry a fog turbine? I've tried looking through the q commands and tried pinging it but i just don't see a way so i'm guessing there isn't one but it doesn't hurt to ask...

going through r2c1 and doing it myself is just asking to get screwed by an unexpected scout in that large fog room with 3 of them and they don't even stay on when you place them down...

[icy cave]

They can, but not while in combat

[rapid sparrow]

wait really? how?

[fierce nebula]

skill issue

[icy cave]

You hit commands -> the objective -> grab fog turbine

But in combat they'll refuse

[rapid sparrow]

Oh in a different section... alright thanks

[vague bridge]

bots prioritize shooting over grabbing

but when you're not in combat

sometimes they can grab items you haven't even picked up yet

e.g. drop into ||r3b2||, straight to comms > objective > [bot] Hackett, pick up the objective item

and he'll do it

but only if its in the same room

[minor fractal]

Not really, what's the main issue?

You can loot side zones if need be, check on terminal to know where stuff is.

Also, bring bio, lol.

Double bio can be helpful if your group is newer.

Experienced teams can skip all loot rooms, just go for what you need/want tbh.

Tracking uptime, how far have you been?

It'd mainly be for the reactor shutdown when you get there.

In the mission.

[ocean spindle]

i'd say double bio does
nothin really
u can have one person be communicate with it n make sure they know how to ping enemies well

[minor fractal]

For newer players? It's kind of huge.

[ocean spindle]

ah, i guess but i don't see it

but it's newbie strats so

fair enough

[minor fractal]

It was a very popular strat in the OG, and has seen some use in other levels.

Even experienced players were running double bio on R6D3.

Possibly.

You need to be able to hold those long alarms effectively.

You might want to favor 76

over 78

So that all enemies still come from the south.

Should be 77/78

Every path is 2 zones

But yeah, if you check terminal 76 and 78 are your main loot zones.

73, 75, and 77 are just preamble to get to those, and 74 is garbo.

What weapons are you running?

If you're accurate, you might prefer HEL Gun.

Combat shotty, both MGs, Revolver, PR, and HAR are all wave-clear-focused specials if you wanted to try any.

You can always practice in solo, R1B1 probably has the best early environment for testing stuff.

PR and HAR are fairly weak options, I should mention, but they're absolutely playable still. Just make sure you can contribute with them.

Solid pairing.

If ammo isn't an issue as well, you might want to consider trying high-cal or Shotgun.

They have significantly lower capacities compared to dedicated wave-clear, but they can make a large contribution in combat fairly easily.

And without the additional skill requirements of Revo or CS.

Aim-intensive, requires good positioning and understanding your breakpoints, and has extra decisions to make in terms of when you want to play for economy, burst, or stagger/chip damage.

[ocean spindle]

i use combat shotgun as a normal shotgun but its automatic so theres that

[minor fractal]

Something like pump shotty tends to be a lot simpler since you do a consistent amount of damage per shot and are almost always playing for burst.

There's skill expression ofc. in things like multi-target and playing off of your chip damage potential, but it's more-so extra compared to CS where playing around all of your options really well is what tends to make the gun good.

[ocean spindle]

combat shotgun is hel shotgun but more inclined to kill enemies with a headshot instead of staggerin em

thats why it is an special

yeah most times i pick a gun is cause it looks cool

thank u mastaba revolver for existin

... jk :]

[minor fractal]

If you're able to get good value out of CS, then you're probably fine using it.

[ocean spindle]

eventually u learn how to manage weapons, u gotta just know em all, use em all, see what works n doesnt