#gtfo-related-questions

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weak root
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alright, i see

low willow
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there is a second variant, assuming you're talking about either Hackett's Hood or Mammoth Darkeye Mark I. they are the same model but with different colors on the mask part

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there's also now the Kovac Typhoon Model I for completing rundown 3, but i don't think the hood(?) on that one looks good personally

gray solstice
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Damn, thanks for all the info. Guess I just gotta kill a lot of uglies and grind will no end goal.

icy cave
icy cave
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so just go through the game

gray solstice
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still sad it's rng based

icy cave
gray solstice
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Wait if you beat the game and still don't have it, can you still get items from repeating it?

icy cave
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you wait for next rundown to come out and hope you drop it on that one

gray solstice
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BIG SAD MAN

icy cave
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Welcome to gtfo

gray solstice
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Welp it's a good thing I love killing them

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I really appreciate all the info

cold quarry
icy cave
cold quarry
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hope they do, i feel like im running out too

icy cave
cold quarry
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wasn't there for 6 but finished 7 and 1-3

icy cave
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Seeing as R4 has 12 levels ....

icy cave
cold quarry
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ooouuu. at least I won't fuckin miss out on it this time lol

icy cave
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It's glorious

cold quarry
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finally some more secondary obj

icy cave
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7 overloads

cold quarry
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WOOOOO

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more than 7 that's odd

icy cave
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Yeah but .... the wait 😭

cold quarry
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pain.

dry pumice
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The grind gonna be real

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No checkpoints of course? Do they still take 70 fucking minutes to beat on PE?

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Inb4 dead at extraction

icy cave
icy cave
dry pumice
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In a world where 70 minutes is the time of a DOTA match gone wrong - it's very long

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Burn out of doing the same thing settles after 40

icy cave
dry pumice
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Shoot shoot and more shoot?

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Or just maps lit by Blue lights?

icy cave
icy cave
icy cave
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Like blue blue or blueish

dry pumice
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Think R6C1 vs R7B3

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Blue vs copper

icy cave
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iirc then yeah there's some blue

latent obsidian
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I do not have this kind of memory for lighting xD

icy cave
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R4A2PE?

dry pumice
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Although ironically

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R7B3 secondary room is like disgustingly toxic blue.

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I simultaneously like it and get suffocated by it.

icy cave
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AH so there is difference in the wish

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I think R4A2 was blue lighting. don't remember if THAT blue

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Yep Def blue

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So you see R4 has everything you want @dry pumice

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inb4 they change out the Color 😂

dry pumice
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Yeah, except I'll be dead of old age when it deploys

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3 goddamn months man...

thorn mango
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Are you able to join a lobby playing a mission that you don't have unlocked?

verbal zinc
thorn mango
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Ooh funky
Thank

glad pike
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is the range of the bat shorter or the same as the hammer?

icy cave
supple lion
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Was the game suggestion channel removed?

icy cave
dry pumice
ocean spindle
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its an inbetween with knoife n hammer

dry folio
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Does GTFO effectively pace the need to learn the use of the terminals? I’m a new player and it’s a lot to take in initially

ocean spindle
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one is more quick n easy, the other one has more benefits

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so it just kinda depends on how u wanna play

latent obsidian
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Recommend the former, learning how to at the very least list with filters, query and ping is essential

ocean spindle
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recommend the formal :]

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sorry

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but yeah its better to go in a terminal and just

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learn

icy cave
dry pumice
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Unfortunately gtfo doesn't teach terminals

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It just gives them to you

weak root
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learning isnt hard, there's just a few commands, a few quirks and so on
use "help" and "commands"

dry pumice
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The rest you have to figure out yourself or from someone else

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And tutorial one is stupid

latent obsidian
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I think the terminals are great because you can learn them completely organically

dry pumice
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Nah. No tutorial - bad game design, in case your game is played by someone who never played a game before.
Every FPS must teach you WASD, then the rest, simple as. It's called an objective standard.

Gtfo relies too much on meta knowledge of gaming community as a whole and terminals are even deeper rabbit hole. You literally just have to deliberately dedicate like 20 minutes to it exploring all the commands and what they can / cannot do.
That's not teaching, that's throwing helicopter control console to the player and telling them to figure it out by themselves.

ocean spindle
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this game was never about teaching you anythin, we didnt got a tutorial until we were 3 years into the game
complaining about it now its just weird

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why not before

dry pumice
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Thank god we got this community which is happy to teach, but I'm still on the fence about games outsourcing tutorials to their player base.

ocean spindle
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now it at least teached u about sneaking

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back then u just had to guess

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and read the levels dialogue

dry pumice
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Yeah. Not good.

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That instantly a niche game in a cubical.

icy cave
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easy as that

ocean spindle
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yeah this game was niche since the very beginning

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that just seems like another aspect of it

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i think with the tutorial is more than enough

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even if the terminal part is a bit funk

icy cave
ocean spindle
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in sneaks is nice, in doors too, in alarms too

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the only funky parts for me are the terminals

icy cave
ocean spindle
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ive done it
a bit
but generally if i see a new player does take it
they usually complete the first level in one two or three attempts

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compare that to the 5 6 or more it used to take if they were all new

dry pumice
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At least it allows you to encounter enemies in a controlled environment, teaches you resource usage and scan procedure.

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Plus minus basic combat shit.

icy cave
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damn

dry pumice
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But terminal is worthless.

craggy pier
dry pumice
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I think it teaches you like 1-2 commands

ocean spindle
dry pumice
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You can't even "HELP" and "COMMANDS" on it.

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I do not understand why.

ocean spindle
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its not the great way to learn

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but its somethin

icy cave
ocean spindle
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mh fair

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... i still think 'training' should b called tutorial

latent obsidian
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yeah the terminal in training is stupid and its so annoying because thats the perfect place for someone to mess around with a terminal and see all the commands

latent obsidian
dry pumice
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I'm fully serious. If your FPS doesn't teach WASD -that's an instant 9,5/10, at least.

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What the should done is send the player onto a treasure hunt across a couple of empty rooms or something.

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Maybe one of those gigantic storage rooms.

latent obsidian
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This is exactly what the first part of the tutorial is?

dry pumice
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Not like that

latent obsidian
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How is what you are suggesting going to be different?

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and what is the point

ocean spindle
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i guess so they dont just skip it

dry pumice
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Give me 20 minutes

ocean spindle
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maybe

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cause ive seen some players just not go into the terminal and just leave

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and granted it could happen to with the big room

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but

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maybe not as much?

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idk

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... give em 20 MKSMDK

dry pumice
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Let me get in on that, just gotta finish this tech support call

latent obsidian
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I have a feeling our opinions are going to be completely incompatible

ocean spindle
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dont worryyy

latent obsidian
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I've had a discussion with someone before about how GTFO teaches the basics and it went nowhere

dry folio
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I appreciate the input on the terminal. I didn’t expect to come back to a robust discussion on my one question lol

ocean spindle
ocean spindle
latent obsidian
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Hey they give you the bat in training

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Its more exposure than it deserves

ocean spindle
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no, it neeed more

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D:

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bat never is satisfied

dry folio
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At first glance as a n00b I’m more drawn to hammer

ocean spindle
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good

latent obsidian
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You have sharp instincts

ocean spindle
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good

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but i like the bat

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this is not 'this is better this ones worse'
this is just me being dumb

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i like the bat

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:]

latent obsidian
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its good to have some individuality

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would be boring to slave to the meta completely

ocean spindle
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yeh i hate the hammer with all my bones

dry folio
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The bat seems useful for coordinated teams far beyond my capability as of yet

tardy ingot
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i mean thats not gonna be many considering the hammer will smash em all

ocean spindle
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thats more the knife

latent obsidian
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the bat does some weird stagger stuff that I don't particularly care for

ocean spindle
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amazin

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:3

latent obsidian
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death by a thousand wallops

tardy ingot
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take hammer -> profit

ocean spindle
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no :]
not for me

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thank chu kovak peacekeeper

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mwah

dry pumice
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Alright, so:

  1. Creating a situation where the player is forced to find a required item using query / ping commands.
    The perfect teacher for this are HSU capsules, much like R1A1 objective, but let's just skip the middle man why don't we.

Ideally I would love to see a terminal overlooking a big storage room from a height advantage so that the player could visually pinpoint where the ping is coming from and find the objective item that way.

  1. Mandatory uplink in the tutorial. Something very basic, no alarms or anything, literally just enter what is required to proceed with some basic hints how to.

Maybe even a dedicated EVAL 2 mission consisting exclusively of various treasure hunts and other terminal interactions to let people explore the mechanic without having to learn it mid uplink wave or keeping other people hostage.

I think if it was to be done - I'd do it like that.

ocean spindle
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uplink...
no

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nope

dry pumice
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Too much?

ocean spindle
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why dont we teach a reactor there in the middle

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and a cargo

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why not

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... nope its too much

past mesa
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We already have the first

dry pumice
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Literally just IP enter, no code

past mesa
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If you skip parts of the tutorial

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That be on you

ocean spindle
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i dont see the point

past mesa
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The uplink or reactor would be useful

dry pumice
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You're right.

ocean spindle
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u have a reactor before ur first uplink mission

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its just similar

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u should know by that point

latent obsidian
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I mean almost every new player will type UPLINK_VERIFY X03 no matter how much you tell them not to beforehand

dry pumice
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Something reminiscent of that. Unique one of a kind commands or something.

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Like the fog remover in C1

latent obsidian
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But I guess I just prefer learning things the hard way

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I think a long tutorial will be boring

dry pumice
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That is true also.

ocean spindle
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yeah its just
the training is already like 30

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30 mins

past mesa
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Na you can just slap it at the end of training

latent obsidian
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And the discovery and surprises that the game throws at you is part of the appeal

ocean spindle
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i mean there b a reason why the game just tells u to do the thing and doesnt explain what the hell is happenin

past mesa
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Na uplinks and reactors you can lose because you don’t know terminal formatting

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Happens way to often

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Kinda lame

dry pumice
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Exactly

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Guaranteed death for a new player

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Its cheap

past mesa
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Artek has a good take on this one a single uplink terminal in training one code no waves

ocean spindle
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in the reactor u have like r1c1 to see, it doesnt take a long time to get there, and normally groups dont struggle with how is it done, but in the process of doin it

past mesa
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Would be a very good thing

dry pumice
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Just 1 code for a taste is all I'm asking for.

ocean spindle
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uplink i can see more problems but for me is just a spoil

dry pumice
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The alarm will be a surprise for later.

past mesa
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What to tell you

dry pumice
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We just need to force them to bite the dirt cake that is the terminal.

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One bite, then they're off.

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And no, doing that in the middle of B2 mission with a surprise horde is not cool.

latent obsidian
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It could be the objective of the tutorial mission I suppose

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It would only take a minute to complete

past mesa
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Yup and there is already a room for it

dry pumice
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Also it makes the refund easier and quicker if they realise this isn't what theyre signed up for.

latent obsidian
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It sort of circumvents the "intended" way of pairing up to do these terminal uplinks, even though exactly noone does it the "intended" way anyway

ocean spindle
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my internet said fuck off but i wanted to say

winged turtle
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the tutorial terminal doesn't even support the COMMANDS command lol

ocean spindle
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so like u have enough trainin of terminals since the first uplink can be either R2 c1 or b3
the b3 one i can understand being cheap, it's at the very end, but the c1 it's right at the start, like in the first zone u go into

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PHMYGOF THE INTERNET AAAAA

past mesa
dry pumice
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Which is fucking insane. I demand an explanation as to why.

ocean spindle
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no yeah the terminal there is bad but puttin on an uplink

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mh

past mesa
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They could do a more fucked order

latent obsidian
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What about the double uplink?

past mesa
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Na it is obvious

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Once you understand uplinks

ocean spindle
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so they could do both

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or even if they dont go past b2 they go to c1

craggy pier
dry pumice
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"we need the co~ wait the codes not here... We need to find it!"

craggy pier
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Instead we had 2 doubles after zones full of shit, charger scouts, and 3 alarms

winged turtle
past mesa
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Yeah idk basic game literacy means you neeed to use both terminals.

ocean spindle
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its gonna b way better

craggy pier
ocean spindle
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uh no sorry i didnt got that

craggy pier
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What I meant is, just put 1 example of something at the very start of a mission (if it's the first time said something is used)

past mesa
ocean spindle
winged turtle
past mesa
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Or maybe a good checkpoint system that way if you make stupid mistakes with understanding objectives it doesn’t matter

craggy pier
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R2C1 "kinda" does that if you do it the order of closer to farthest

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R2B3 does not and it's behind 2 alarms

ocean spindle
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B3 i agree is bad

latent obsidian
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I think its so sad they removed the log from the terminal for wave one on R3A3

ocean spindle
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but the c1 is nice

latent obsidian
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That was a good introduction to the mechanic of finding logs on other terminals

ocean spindle
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yep

latent obsidian
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Because some players won't have interacted with them if they started on R3

craggy pier
ocean spindle
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i mean not even if they started if they just played normally
the game then throws that curveball of 'now logs b important'

ocean spindle
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hehe my wordin is so bad

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help

winged turtle
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when they introduce new mechanics, it should be at the start of the level. but that got muddied up by the Rundown system.

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i will still never forget that, as an R7 baby, i didn't know what a reactor was until i got ferried to E1. its rectified now with alts, but that is the single most horrendous way to introduce an entire objective type on the back half of that level

past mesa
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Yeah happens a lot with r7

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Where you would leave the new guy with reactor and they wouldn’t be able to type in code

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Very funny

ocean spindle
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r7 was were if u played r6 u kinda had the idea but if u started there

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welcome to pain

winged turtle
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much content

past mesa
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R6d1 having a reactor that is fairly easy to beeline to

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Most of the people I introduced would speed-run story and they just would wipe like 5-7 times getting reactor codes right

ocean spindle
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yeah the terminal was like right there in your back

past mesa
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Which didn’t matter to much cause you have a checkpoint right there

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Like a good game

ocean spindle
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then the other 4 checkpoints meh but that first one...
idk actually but i think its ok

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i dont wanna speak too much of a level i have barely seen

past mesa
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na for r6d1 it is just one to many checkpoints

turbid horizon
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bro that level has like

past mesa
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Yeah for new players

turbid horizon
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4 cp

past mesa
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It has 4 doesn’t it

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Yeah 3 is reasonable

turbid horizon
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I feel like it only needs 2

ocean spindle
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i always forget
one in reactor, after it, before air ventilation and ending right?

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yeah only two

winged turtle
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ahem

turbid horizon
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Idk

ocean spindle
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one before the reactor one after the last alarm

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no

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one after reactor

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one after the reactor then after the last alarm

turbid horizon
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One on apex and one on infect door

past mesa
ocean spindle
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for the big thing

past mesa
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Na man reactors for new players be tricky the reactor checkpoint is a very good one game design wise

ocean spindle
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i mean the problem is reactor was like the first thing u did wasnt it?

past mesa
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The one before scout zone is a bit much but the other ones for new players make the level pretty approachable

past mesa
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Like it was awful

ocean spindle
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fkin hell
...
yeah idk

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cause they are story missions and players just said fuck the optionals

past mesa
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the checkpoint is very good the one on scout door was a bit much

ocean spindle
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which one was the scout door?

past mesa
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The one after the class 4

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Where the key was for ventilation sequence

ocean spindle
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OH i remember yeah that one had no reason to exist

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i guess cause 4 scouts

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but

past mesa
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Yeah the other 3 are pretty good

ocean spindle
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even so c1 did it fine

past mesa
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yeah exactly

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3 checkpoints is very reasonable for r6d1

tardy ingot
past mesa
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it has 5

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Where is the 5th

ocean spindle
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this might sound weird but
maybe story missions... idk how i feel about them
cause they only like path a way, but the problem is a lot of other levels were like super nice to learn
even if u dont complete em
like b2 c2 c3 even if u didnt make it, it was practice

past mesa
ocean spindle
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and so the jump from b1 to c1 and then d1

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mh

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in r7 too it makes way more sense cause it is an actual story

past mesa
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Wait the vent sequence

ocean spindle
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but in r6 it was just the tp thing

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and that same thing was kinda like r3

past mesa
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Duck I forgot about that checkpoint

ocean spindle
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with the neonate

tardy ingot
ocean spindle
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1 pre

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:D

past mesa
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Oh I would keep the reactor one the class 4 one and the pre teleport

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3 is enough

tardy ingot
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id keep either pre or post reactor (either is fine)
and pre teleport

past mesa
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That is a lot I think the one after the class 4 is a nice safety net

tardy ingot
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There were definetly some „ok“ checkpoints if you consider a rundown alone

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like r6c1 ending one

tardy ingot
past mesa
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Is that the big pit one

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It probably was

tardy ingot
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the class 4 was the ressource zone

tardy ingot
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thats a good checkpoint

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or the one before the uplink in dx

ocean spindle
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extension levels my beloved
excebt bx i dont remember it at all

tardy ingot
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BX is chill

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had a fun outdoor section

ocean spindle
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it introduced
things! the enemy [debate still going]!

past mesa
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I like a lot of the checkpoint they do

tardy ingot
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r6b1 after first alarm…

ocean spindle
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for me some is overwhelmin, specially in r7 a bit, cause a1 b1 just jurt

past mesa
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That one be a sin

tardy ingot
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r6c3?,,

past mesa
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If it didn’t have bugs

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It would be fine

ocean spindle
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ah not even talkin of bugs

tardy ingot
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the level is short

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people cant complain about time waste

ocean spindle
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even so i think some r just not worth

past mesa
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30 mins pure shooting

tardy ingot
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mining*

past mesa
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It is tricky

tardy ingot
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legit mined more in r6c3 than i did in my 20 hours of DRG

past mesa
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Lol

arctic marten
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Ur bad at drg then

tardy ingot
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i do be

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i just started

ocean spindle
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haha :] bad

past mesa
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What is your main

tardy ingot
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50% of the time i chill with turret, steve and a lootbug and vibe

arctic marten
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Shoot the lootbug

tardy ingot
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pet the lootbug

icy nacelle
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Destroy the child.

past mesa
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Idk

tardy ingot
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also i was just watching a bx video

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man i miss r6 sniper in a way

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was fun to have too much ammo

arctic marten
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L take

ocean spindle
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in a way

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bubgr kibr, have it in a way

arctic marten
past mesa
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Interesting we are at a stand still

arctic marten
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No I have won

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I use violence to win

past mesa
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Oh duck

dry pumice
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Technically correct

arctic marten
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As a nonviolent, you are powerless to stop me

past mesa
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My one weakness

past mesa
woeful summit
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Does GTFO stand for "Get The Foot Ointment?"

ocean spindle
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.t gtfo

uneven gulchBOT
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The game is called GTFO and it doesn't stand for "Get The Fuck Out" but rather the feeling you have that you want to complete The Warden's objective and GTFO.

ocean spindle
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:]

past mesa
ocean spindle
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GTFL

tardy ingot
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that sentence honestly always confused me

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The feeling you have that you want to complete the wardens objective and get the frick out?

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so why say no before that

ocean spindle
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i guess its the feel
not the words

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...

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but its weird

tardy ingot
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Does the botw in zelda botw stand for breath of the wild?

No it stands for the feeling you get when you are outside in the wild and take a breath of its freedom

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:^ )

icy cave
ocean spindle
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botw? more like
.... minecraft

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HAH roasted

winged turtle
icy cave
winged turtle
icy cave
lunar rain
minor fractal
lunar rain
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So it’s more so the feeling after completing a mission?

minor fractal
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I guess so.

winged turtle
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cough cough

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tHe GaMe Is CaLlEd GtFo AnD iT dOeSn'T sTaNd FoR "gEt ThE fUcK oUt" BuT rAtHeR tHe FeElInG yOu HaVe ThAt YoU WaNt To CoMpLeTe ThE wArDeN's ObJeCtIvE aNd GtFo.

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cough

cold quarry
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that is the most confusing thing on earth

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like. That IS the same thing

lost flame
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I'm very confident that's satire

dry pumice
lusty bramble
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I think d0cr3d wrote it

lament sparrow
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The question is what does the GTFO at the end of that sentence mean? Does it mean the feeling you have that you want to complete The Warden's objective and the feeling you have that you want to complete The Warden's objective and the feeling you have that you want to complete The Warden's objective and the feeling you have that you want to complete The Warden's objective and the feeling you have that you want to complete The Warden's objective and...?

lusty bramble
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I think d0cr3d wrote it

dry pumice
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10c not based enough to own their own game's name

lusty bramble
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I only think 1 chamber was involved in writing that description and it was d0cr3d

lament sparrow
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I remember when I was scouring the deep lore seeing that there were designations for each of your characters that ended up being GTFO as an acronym

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which made way more sense than the meme description there is atm

lusty bramble
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That was a joke

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I think Gabe made it

past mesa
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10cc making jokes impossible

dry pumice
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Beep, what are you trying to achieve

past mesa
dry pumice
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Are these sleeper agent signals to assassinate Doc

lusty bramble
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It stands for the gtfo classes
G(arrison)
T(echnician)
F(ighter)
O(micron)

past mesa
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Pretty simple

lusty bramble
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Leave me alone artek!!!

hardy grotto
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can you tell me more about the fighter class beep

lusty bramble
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No

hardy grotto
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Okay

past mesa
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I feel like I am an omicron

hardy grotto
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I’m reporting you.

past mesa
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What does that mean for my star sign

lusty bramble
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Gemini

hardy grotto
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ur probs a scorpio then 💅

lusty bramble
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That's such a Taurus opinion

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Good thing I'm a vertigo 😍

hardy grotto
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Dude you’re such a leo rn

past mesa
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You are wrong I got cancer

hardy grotto
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I think Walter white had that

lusty bramble
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No he got bald

past mesa
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I think he have cancer ♋️

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with the symbol

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Pretty important

lusty bramble
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He got paid 🤑

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He's so me

hardy grotto
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He liked it

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He was good at it

lusty bramble
#

Who did he do all this for Beth

past mesa
#

For Martha

#

I remember this plot line

lusty bramble
#

Batman

hardy grotto
#

He did it for bane

#

He was gonna crash the plane with no survivors 😱

lusty bramble
#

😱

#

But bane survived???

past mesa
#

that is nice of him

#

Plane crashes are traumatic

#

Making sure no one suffers from trauma is noble

neon gust
#

Batman trilogy slaps tho

winged turtle
#

truth

#

Bane and Scarecrow were both really cool, not enough spot light for them imo

arctic marten
#

Bane will be a playable character in cyberheist

winged turtle
#

"by the time i saw an analog clock was already a man"

neon gust
#

Riddler in the new batman was pretty dope

winged turtle
#

Hell yeah, a couple more of that rogues gallery in the grounded Nolan aesthetic. I'm in

past star
#

Hi, ily guys

arctic marten
#

stfu

vague bridge
#

rather rude

knotty nymph
#

Any tips for a complete beginner?

icy cave
knotty nymph
icy cave
knotty nymph
#

Appreciate it

icy cave
winged turtle
orchid hamlet
#

So my friends and I didn't PE all the r7 levels when it initially came out with the individual rewards for all PEs and secondarys. I know (although likely unsupported) it's possible to roll back the version of the game so the awards appear visible. Is this a way to get the PE rewards still or am I just out of luck and gotta wait for the random drops?

upper ginkgo
#

system has been streamlined so you can one random cosmetic drop for every expedition completed

orchid hamlet
#

yeah but what about the extras

upper ginkgo
#

you probably just miss out on them

orchid hamlet
#

I just remember they were like "garunteed drops"

fierce hill
#

what is LF 1 and 2 and 3?

orchid hamlet
#

looking for 1 2 or 3 players

upper ginkgo
fierce hill
#

ty

winged turtle
orchid hamlet
#

thanks!

arctic marten
orchid hamlet
#

yeah

#

kinda wish there was the cosmetic reward for the extra completion but I get why they did what they did

past mesa
#

I feel like there is the same number of drops rn to the original r7

steady sinew
#

I got more of a technical question. For that HUD UI sway, do you think something similar to linear interpolation was used? Maybe getting the delta of the user’s mouse and interpolating it to some kind of central position?

winged turtle
#

i am not smart enough to even engage with this question's premise 🤓

ocean spindle
#

... i just had to investigate all of the terms u used so dont mind it

#

a lot cause its prob very very very wrong

upper ginkgo
#

he's just describing the parallax effect

#

you can search up how people implement it

past mesa
ocean spindle
#

yeah

#

its not a talk about what effect it was its bout how they did it

past mesa
#

But it doesn’t really matter and this ain’t the place you would need to go data mining

ocean spindle
#

we know the effect ksmdk

ocean spindle
#

learnings part of the fun

past mesa
#

Yeah words are cool and all just take apart the game and see it

#

Better learning 😌

ocean spindle
#

nah

#

too easy

#

i want the challenge

lusty bramble
#

can you interpolate a better question

ocean spindle
arctic marten
#

stfu

raven oar
#

Even in the alt rundowns the checkpoints are not available right

ocean spindle
#

yeah alt rundowns don't have em at all

lusty bramble
#

yeah the devs don't make CP readily available

raven oar
#

I hope they make it so it’s not available at all 🙏

low willow
#

from what they said, checkpoints will likely be in alt R6 because they were in the original R6

#

it's not a guarantee, but i don't expect them to be removed

ocean spindle
#

i hope they are :D

#

i want an r6 harder than r5 before nerfs

minor fractal
#

I want an R6 with a bit less ammo.

topaz anvil
#

I want an r6 will no ammo

winged turtle
#

i want r6

vagrant heart
#

do boss monsters take damage from tumors instantly, or do they only take damage after a tumor pops?
ex. if a mother has 1 hp and i hit the tumors with a shotgun blast, but none actually get popped, will the mother die?

past mesa
#

Instantly

vagrant heart
solemn flint
ocean spindle
#

what

solemn flint
#

the difficuty level of r6

#

how hard is it

#

on a scale from i dont need ammo to beat it to only doom slayer can beat it

ocean spindle
#

ah

#

is easy

latent obsidian
#

comparable to Alt:R2 maybe

ocean spindle
#

its harder than r3

#

but then easier than 4 and 5 i think

solemn flint
#

is there anything interesting in r6?

#

that may make it more fun

ocean spindle
#

a lot :]

#

lots lots lots

#

but those would b spoilers

latent obsidian
#

There are some decent levels

#

And something you won't have seen before

ocean spindle
#

ok u can see the contrast here

solemn flint
#

its ok to to spoil

ocean spindle
#

'r6 b my fav rundown'
'decent levels'

ocean spindle
latent obsidian
#

R6D3, R6C3, R6C1 were some of my faves

solemn flint
#

im sick of waiting alt r4 to the point i dont want to play this game until they release new stuff

#

plz make alt r4 quicker

ocean spindle
ocean spindle
latent obsidian
#

D4 is okay once you're half way through but the start is kinda annoying

solemn flint
#

im sick of waiting

ocean spindle
#

mhh

ocean spindle
solemn flint
#

r3 was too short for me to enjoy

craggy pier
#

does anyone know how i check what region im on?

solemn flint
#

killing grandma in d1 is fun though

latent obsidian
craggy pier
#

in the game i mean

ocean spindle
#

u just choose the one u are in based on where ur country is

latent obsidian
#

if you are looking to lfg just join where is appropriate

ocean spindle
#

the game doesnt ask for ur region

#

just the discord

craggy pier
#

oh ok

ocean spindle
#

just the LFG

tardy ingot
latent obsidian
#

I think maybe accidentally triggering the room after the first data cube soured me on it a bit 😄 Also I don't enjoy the mother stealth section, its so foggy I feel like hitting any baby could easily trigger something I can't see and react to safely so its a bit of a slog

tardy ingot
#

pog strat was to rush in

latent obsidian
#

mm could work as long as you find the cube quickly

#

but you're gonna get your heels nipped to death otherwise

tardy ingot
icy cave
latent obsidian
#

I should have known better

arctic marten
#

how do i reload cancel, i heard some people talking about it

winged turtle
#

when you refresh the store page, you press the X button so it stops reloading the page

arctic marten
#

oh ok tyty

open verge
craggy pier
lusty bramble
#

am I allowed to reload cancel for dirty doors

arctic marten
arctic marten
vague bridge
#

grrrr

arctic marten
#

coz, how do i reload cancel

vague bridge
#

you dont

arctic marten
#

how

vague bridge
#

reload cancelling is for nerds

craggy pier
#

teach me your ways

lusty bramble
#

I don't see how reload canceling is related to removing stamina

arctic marten
#

does reload canceling use stamina

lusty bramble
#

yes, it's a gameplay balance feature

arctic marten
#

so if its balanced, can i use it?

vague bridge
#

no

arctic marten
#

oh

#

why not

vague bridge
#

its a myth

arctic marten
#

is it bad?

vague bridge
#

yrs

arctic marten
#

how is it bad

vague bridge
#

its a way for unskilled players to look cool

#

as a 300 hour'r i can reasonably tell you that

arctic marten
#

what if you already have proven your skill

#

or have 1k hours

vague bridge
#

go wild

arctic marten
#

will you reload cancel when you have 1k hours

vague bridge
#

no

arctic marten
#

why not

vague bridge
#

because im cool

dry pumice
#

Based

arctic marten
#

if i reload cancel will i become uncool

dry pumice
#

A tiny itsy bit

arctic marten
#

how do i measure my coolness so i can know if i lost some

weary mesa
#

you got enough

#

You are an R2D1 enjoyer

arctic marten
#

but how do i check

past mesa
#

It keeps track of everything

winged turtle
#

You'll know you lost some if in the logs, you see that none of the correct pass codes are the word "cool"

arctic marten
#

i thought they were a virus

vague bridge
#

thats how you clear your cool

arctic marten
#

i think im gonna go reload cancel for 1k hours

fringe tulip
#

Hoi Hoi is it possible to stealthy kill a giant?

arctic marten
#

yes

#

most people do it by synchronizing three hits to the back at the same time

fringe tulip
#

What if one knife user and 3 hammers?

midnight gazelle
fringe tulip
#

Where do it hit it? The back the head where?

arctic marten
#

back is usually easiest, but if one person wants to also hit the head, they can

minor fractal
#

If someone is hitting head, they should be behind as well.

#

Legit does less damage from front than just a normal back hit.

winged turtle
#

-4 full charge hammer hits to the back does it
-2 full hammer charges to the back plus one full hammer charge to the back of the head also does it

past mesa
winged turtle
#

ya? huh. my first group had some weird skill issues for a looong time then

weary mesa
#

Not fully behind the man

#

Angle issue

past mesa
#

Yeah has to be

#

More helpful to just learn the values

#

20 full charger hammer. 2 times for the back and 1.5 times per the head.

winged turtle
#

100hp?

past mesa
#

120

#

150 for hybrid and shooters but they have higher headshot multi

fringe tulip
winged turtle
arctic marten
neon gust
#

knife its for the small people

#

use it for the small people

arctic marten
#

knife is how i know who not to play with

fringe tulip
#

Yeah I'm good knife user

neon gust
#

be simple

fringe tulip
arctic marten
#

owned

fringe tulip
#

Once took out 3 sleeper with da knife! One right after the other

arctic marten
#

welcome to non-spear melee

neon gust
#

one time i help stagger a giant with knife by breaking its leg with 2 full charger swings!!!!!

fringe tulip
#

GET OWNEDDDD

#

@neon gust so if I'm knife what should the others equipment melee be and do to kill a giant stealthy way

neon gust
#

are you still playing with bots

arctic marten
#

dragon tell us what the best melee is

neon gust
#

bat

fringe tulip
#

2 irl 2 bots

neon gust
#

if its 2 people

#

then your goofy ass gotta get a hammer

#

same as your partner

fringe tulip
#

Oofie okay

neon gust
#

yeah you kinda want versatility on melee

#

when playing with bots

#

you can specialize on guns

#

but melee always hammer

#

exept on some levels like r3d1 and r2c2 for example

ocean spindle
#

weak i always forever with BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA- /j

winged turtle
#

oh! on this topic, bot guns are still pdw+MG ya?

neon gust
arctic marten
winged turtle
#

sniper
PI_RIP

ocean spindle
#

scattergun

arctic marten
#

long gun

neon gust
#

hella based

arctic marten
#

any1 else giving their bots the glue mine deployer

neon gust
#

Im more of a nanoswarm type person

ocean spindle
#

i give my bots the medic tool

weary mesa
#

Deployable Barrier is my choice

neon gust
weary mesa
#

covers the bullrushes

neon gust
weary mesa
#

The duality of man

neon gust
#

Striker_Boss ID 21

#

only real ones know

arctic marten
#

no dont crash my game !!!!!

weary mesa
#

Don't tell that one guy about Striker_Boss he's got a sexy pose

neon gust
#

Crawling giants when

craggy pier
#

Robotized Larceny is gonna answer those faults

arctic marten
#

"sussy or die"

prisma ivy
#

question for PROS only: what's your sens / dpi

neon gust
#

low sense

past mesa
#

I mean it should be obvious just make it controllable. and be able to turn around

neon gust
#

at the end of the day its your preference what matters

lusty bramble
#

I am a PRO and I play 0.44 800

past mesa
arctic marten
#

beep is not a pro

#

i saw him reload cancel just the other day

lusty bramble
#

🥹

prisma ivy
lusty bramble
#

He is not PRO

#

👎

prisma ivy
#

lmao

lusty bramble
#

You can not lmao my sensitivity!!!

prisma ivy
#

genuinely didnt mean to i was going to reply that that's actually really close to mine lol

hardy grotto
#

1200 dpi 0.21

#

im simply just better than everyone else

lusty bramble
#

Bad 👎

hardy grotto
#

bobo response

past mesa
#

not even 5 digits

#

give in make every movement a 360

hardy grotto
#

im ok team

#

i dont wanna try flick to a sleeper and do a whole 360

lusty bramble
#

Bobo mindset

hardy grotto
#

LMFAO

#

bobo grindset

#

run knife, win game, repeat.

#

why did it crouch.

past mesa
#

!!

mossy aurora
lusty bramble
#

You're a PRO to me ryk

hardy grotto
#

AYO RYK

#

i see u

neon gust
#

Ill take a big striker tongue for RyK

raven oar
#

Best turret to use?

ocean spindle
#

both b nice

#

u use em accordin to their characteristics

raven oar
#

Ok

#

Ty

#

What’s the best bot loadout @ocean spindle

#

Hel rev + mg?

ocean spindle
#

all guns b nice guns

raven oar
#

Which ones are the most ammo efficient

ocean spindle
#

id say dont get used to the 'meta' weapons

#

cause u need the variety

raven oar
#

I use dmr combat shotgun

ocean spindle
#

u need some guns for some levels n stuff

#

u play with bots or a team?

raven oar
#

Bots

#

What loadout I use for them that’s good + ammo efficient

ocean spindle
#

mh then as bots cant handle big guys well, maybe strong weapons are ur best choice for u to use, shotguns or whatevs to really handle em, unless its a level with mostly smalls, then its ur choice, i usually go with combat shotgun or automatic weapons in those cases to hold back the wave and dont let em get near

#

in the case of the bots, long range automatic guns work best with them

#

assault rifles, machineguns, burst rifle

raven oar
#

Hm ok

ocean spindle
#

generally long range things that dont requiere a lot of headshots

#

and in melee, everythin but spear

raven oar
#

I’ll go for assault rifle + mg (arbalist)

ocean spindle
#

yeah, usually just depends on the mission, on r1c1 i hat heavy assault rifle i think, but for c2 i had heavy shotguns

#

it just depends

#

on the main weapon tho u can b a lot more flexible, only some levels really ask for some kind to not b used

#

c2 is awful with dmr n stuff

raven oar
#

Hel rev looks interesting

#

Might use that next

ocean spindle
#

yeah, i dont like it, but thats a me thing, it is a very nice weapon

mighty raptor
#

guys, newb question

ocean spindle
#

trees do fall to the side u look to

mighty raptor
#

can other players see the moving targets I marked with a bio tracker?

ocean spindle
#

ah yeah
its universal

#

u can give the bio to another player or bot and u will still see em

mighty raptor
#

ohh nice

#

ty for the answer

ocean spindle
#

its oki
the untagged enemies those u have to just
describe to ur team ksmdk

vague bridge
#

do you have a bot on your team

ocean spindle
#

oh yeah if u have a bot

#

give em the bio

#

:]

vague bridge
#

mhm

mossy aurora
ocean spindle
#

hehe wrong :3

#

probably

dusky tiger
#

a bit early to ask

#

but when does alt r4 come out

#

;p

ocean spindle
#

we dont know :D

dusky tiger
#

ty ;p

vague bridge
#

r4 will come on april the first

arctic marten
#

r4 is coming april 27

raven oar
#

How do I deal with scouts effectively

ocean spindle
#

two ways
u either melee it if its with other sleepers, or u shoot it and deal with the now awaken sleepers

#

the first one is
usually the better option

#

hammer and spear can do a nice headshot and kill it, bat and knife neef a hit from the back of the head, but its more risky unless u practice it

raven oar
#

Oh what I thought you could only kill from occiput with hammer

#

Damn

ocean spindle
#

nope u can hit it from the front

#

usually foam also makes the task easier, if its like super stupid risky
or u can just shoot it, close the door, mine it and the room is gone

#

there be a lot of strats

raven oar
#

I see

fierce nebula
#

when R4

fringe tulip
#

about to hit r1c1 any advice or weapon choice?

ocean spindle
#

uh

#

dont die :D

#

the rest would b spoilers

#

and the first run is always the funniest one

honest lion
#

Does anyone know anyways to reduce desync? I have desync Issue with one of my friend specifically. I use Nord Meshnet which helps but there are still desync which makes it hard to stealth giants together

neon gust
#

Whoever got the best internet host the game

#

Makw sure your not watching streams or hd videos on background

#

Thats pretty much it

turbid horizon
#

yeah my friend in a household of 10 hosted once and like

#

I phased through a wall

raven oar
#

If you bum rush a scout while getting hit by it’s tentacles, can’t you still kill it because it’s still vulnerable during the tentacle retraction?

past mesa
raven oar
#

So I can trigger the tentacles by moving, gap close a bit, and then just one tap it

past mesa
#

Just remember running into the scout will instantly alert it. It can also alert is a sleeper right besides it alerts

past mesa
raven oar
#

Nice

past mesa
#

Best way of dealing with a scout cause it will stop moving

#

Just watch out for random crouches

winged turtle
#

a tentacle touch takes about a second to whip into a scream

past mesa
#

Yeah more than enough time to go from some of the father tentacles to hit the scout

ocean spindle
# raven oar Nice

not alert it
runnin to a scout will make it extend its feelers ksdm

#

idk if it was clear

#

i just wanted to say it

raven oar
ocean spindle
#

so if u walk, the scout doesnt care

#

if u run, the scout will start to extend its feelers, its tentacles

#

if u touch a tentacle, u have a bit of time before it screams

#

so if u walk u can hit it while its still walkin, if u run to it itll extend its tentacles and u have to hit it while its doin that

raven oar
#

Oh ok

past mesa
ocean spindle
#

yes

#

but i just wanted to clarify it

#

cause 'alert' can mean a lot of things

past mesa
#

Like a based player

ocean spindle
#

:b

raven oar
#

Why game so poorly optimized 😭

winged turtle
#

dw, full release will make it perform much better trust trust

dry pumice
#

Unity engine so be big cringe

#

Should've sourced it up

ocean spindle
raven oar
#

Even darktide is better optimized 😭

ocean spindle
#

have a better pc :]

raven oar
dry pumice
ocean spindle
#

what do u mean, god of war ragnarok is better optimized???????????

arctic marten
#

being better optimized than darktide is a low fucking bar

dry pumice
#

What is that supposed to mean

raven oar
#

Because the game is fucking terrible lmao

#

0 content

#

Very repetitive gameplay

#

Lack of endgame

#

Lack of solo mode

dry pumice
#

Oh definetely

ocean spindle
#

mh

raven oar
#

Lack of being able to play a map that you want, when you want

ocean spindle
#

... darktide or gtfo?

dry pumice
#

Frankly could be both

arctic marten
#

hes talkin about darktide

ocean spindle
#

cause gtfo just gave the option to

#

play the maps

#

ok

#

darktide

#

but like optimization has nothin to do with the like gameplay n stuff

dry pumice
#

Akhtually

ocean spindle
#

like the people that made darktide, werent they like supported by other companies and made like other AAA games?

dry pumice
#

The more mechanic and various BS happens on the backend the worse the performance.

raven oar
#

Lol

#

Fat shark is an indie company

ocean spindle
#

'Fatshark is a Swedish video game development studio based in Stockholm, Sweden.[3][4] The studio is located in Stockholm. Fatshark acted as a subcontractor for several AAA titles for PC and consoles, and the studio also develops its own games.[1][5]'

#

mh

dry pumice
#

Xcom 2 is infamous for losing performance as the game progresses because for some reasons loading an extra skill for your soldier costs you 1 FPS

ocean spindle
#

maybe im readin this wrong hold on

arctic marten
#

never trust sweedish devs smh

dry pumice
#

What is the Sweden known for again? Clocks?

ocean spindle
#

oh well i guess i am

raven oar
#

Darktide was not a project done for another company

#

?

ocean spindle
#

darktide wasnt a subcontract

#

yes im stupid

#

sorry

fierce nebula
#

he got mixed up with Halo Infinite

#

both shitty games

devout nimbus
#

Is the game in as bad of a state as people say, I mean ik there's like 1 dev but it ain't the worst imo

dry pumice
#

Hm?

#

I mean... It is a little bit raw but... It does work. So there's that.

winged turtle
#

got to keep in mind, this is the most active 1% of the Fanbase. The new and good things lost their sheen a while ago.

#

the problems with the game, as i see them, i would rank like this:

  1. finding someone to play with
  2. playing with people you don't know and/or don't like
  3. being bad at the game
  4. avoiding the game breaking bugs
  5. running out of things to do in the game.
#

As you are starting and going through it, you kind of only deal with one thing at a time. but when you get to the end, you look back and see it all together. and it makes the game look horrible, instead of rough in a few spots.

#

tldr;
we shit on it because we love it, but still wish it was more

#

but its not that bad

raven oar
arctic marten
#

if you mean doorbugging, yes that is still a thing

raven oar
#

Lmao

arctic marten
#

or wait did you mean the reactor spawn room that you can get into

raven oar
#

Idek

tardy ingot
#

door bug (getting enemies stuck) is a thing in every level. But its a bug that people over play as "bad for the game" so heavily lol

#

you either do it intentionally now or it wont happen

raven oar
#

I just heard there was a level where it is impossible for solo players because it required two onstaneous security scans so people bypassed it by glitching through the door

tardy ingot
#

theres 3 levels like that (tho only 1 is currently available)

#

where no one has done it without a glitch of that level

tardy ingot
raven oar
#

Oh ok

past mesa
#

You will probably run in to this if you need that functionality to play the game first.

#

Colour blind modes.

#

More audio sliders

#

Ect

winged turtle
past mesa
#

Gtfo as a concept is very good unique and plays well. I would say it has a general lack of polish especially for a modern game.

#

Everything is in the game it is just a little broken or doesn’t work perfectly

glossy vigil
#

hey, can someone explain to me when normal sleepers "scream" and wake up when you kill them :)? is it just when I miss/ the other sleepers are too close?

past mesa
#

Ummm

minor fractal
past mesa
#

Good question ray

#

I was about to explain both

minor fractal
#

Everything within a very short range will always wake up, and if that doesn't happen the nearest glowing sleeper has an RNG chance to wake up.

#

Within a huge range for the latter, ~12, 13m

glossy vigil
#

I see! thanks :)

past mesa
#

Will also alert them in a short range

#

So don’t miss :)

winged turtle
#

and lastly, after an enemy wakes up, it has a move it will try to use where it doesn't attack, but screams instead. this will wake up the whole room

fierce nebula
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but yeah I'd say main issue is finding people to play with continuously

dry pumice
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Why the fuck ranged sleepers have rng chance to wake up

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Such a silly unfair mechanic

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Literally thrown in for... I don't even know what for. Replayability?

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Just so that you didn't feel too comfortable?

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Feels unfair every time it happens.

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And of course it's like 15m away, and it'd the guy from a cluster of 5.

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Thanks, game. Real cool.

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At least I've never had a giant wake up so far...

past mesa
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It is completely controllable

winged turtle
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"if you feel like you are in total control, thats when you lose it!"

tardy ingot
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hm?

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and isnt the rng that they might NOT wake up

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instead of "randomly" wake up

dry pumice
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People already don't respect stealth, so I don't know why do they even bother.

tardy ingot
dry pumice
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Had a guy yesterday basically do one large leeeeeeeroy through the entire R1A1.

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Great introduction for the new guy.

tardy ingot
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i mean thats r1a1

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but yes scummy behaviour if its with a new guy

winged turtle
dry pumice
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He didn't seem to mind. But we basically teached him nothing about stealth.

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We called it a day when his game crashed on C1.

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One of you will have to teach him... On D1.

winged turtle
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lol, that is actually fine though. its teaching people on R2D2, or R7... hmm, oh C3, thats a problem.

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most levels are perfectly fine teaching levels, just not timed ones imo

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what instant ||error alarms|| do we have rn? just 2 right? even those are only meh, teaching levels.

dry pumice
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I can't even think about 2nd one... Oh right, R3D

tardy ingot
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R6 teaching stealth in D4

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yep had one guy like that once

winged turtle
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idk that level, but EEeeyyiiIIkessss

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at least now you can send him back to R1B1 and tell him solo no bots, figure it out

dry pumice
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D4 had great stealth sections.

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Literally can't afford to fight.

winged turtle
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was D4 an X level?

dry pumice
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Don't think so

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Very reminiscent of R3D

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Loud start and then sudden stop

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I kept thinking about it when playing R3

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Basically same emotions