gtfo-related-questions

[winged turtle]

but it might be a little goofy.

so it deserves dev time

[dry pumice]

What would be good points of refference. Medic's crossbow? That one sniper girl from Evolve?

Former is either busted or worthless depending on how good medic's aim is

It would also need like bazzilion of ammo

[winged turtle]

but also have sick ass crit multipliers

out DPS a wave the hard way

we could have a dedicated tank and healer

[dry pumice]

Killing Floor also have similiar mechanic

But then again that game is way more balanced around actually taking damage

Especially berzerkers

No more iconic duo than a berz and a medic that constantly heals him

[winged turtle]

#gamesuggestions add a wizard class and MP to GTFO

[dry pumice]

I suggested a poisoned dart gun once upon time. It got downvoted into oblivion.

To be fair... Bullets are just the universal problem solver.

Why bother with all this fancy healing, debuffing, slow...

Just use more gun

Realistically speaking, that is

Killing Floor embraced its video-gamyness over the years. Lots of ridiculous silly shit that just exists to be fun

[lusty bramble]

remember when killing floor embraced edars, rioters, and weapon upgrades which completely killed community momentum

yes I will take the medic that is able to single shot decap gorefasts please

[craggy pier]

Big fan

[dry pumice]

I didn't mind the weapon upgrade system

I really liked LA80 for its superior holoscope and low recoil compared to the rest assault rifles, so ability to just keep beefing it up until its viable in any other situation was great.

But robots were a weird addition indeed.

Although i'm not sure what's the criticism of them, precisely

They are just logical conclusion of the zeds, who are combat clones to begin with. So lore doesn't seem to be against it and their gameplay wasn't bad, from what i remember... Which is not a lot.

[soft crater]

Can't have shit

[cinder notch]

what are some good weapons for blasting a mother rq after c-foaming it? shotguns, i'd assume?

[ocean spindle]

yeah, pump shotguns work wonders, combat too, high cal would b ok too but not better than shottie

[spark wolf]

burst cannon

[vague bridge]

this guy cfoamed a mother

[silent socket]

is there any red-green colourblind support? is that in the making? I'd really like to be able to alter the red that the security scans are, they've very difficult to see 😦

[ocean spindle]

u can prob suggest it #discord-announcements message

or maybe a mod could have it?

.t modding

[uneven gulch]

GTFO doesn't officially support mods and we don't allow them to be played in public lobbies or voice channels on this server, and lengthy discussions should also be avoided (mentioning them is perfectly fine). However, we do recognize that a GTFO modding community exist and if you are interested in them, you are welcome to join the independent modding community Discord server. https://discord.gg/rRMPtv4FAh (If you have any more questions, please read rule #12 in the rules channel for more information.)

[ocean spindle]

im not sure

[silent socket]

well they have accessiblity for syringe sensitivity

but a lot of games commonly support red-green colourblind now because whether people know it or not, like 40% of NA males are red-green colourblind 😛 I just happen to be really bad

[ocean spindle]

idk maybe they just
didnt thought of that, ik i didnt, sorry
but yeah maybe askin for it could make em realize, it could help out a lot

[silent socket]

yeah for sure man, it's why I'm here, theres just so many channels--I don't know where to suggest it heh

[ocean spindle]

ah its ok

we used to have an

uhhh suggestion channel

but it got got

[past mesa]

i would just @ calle

[ocean spindle]

yeah

with mails they dont, answer

[past mesa]

he be waking up soon

[ocean spindle]

i think they read em but dont answer

[silent socket]

community-calle?

[ocean spindle]

yep

[past mesa]

yup

[silent socket]

thanks boys

[past mesa]

green name tag

[ocean spindle]

the person from the post

[past mesa]

no worries

[ocean spindle]

that i linked

[past mesa]

if you want there might be a mod that makes the scans a diffrent colour

[silent socket]

that'd be good, but it's also just the red they use for everything

the text, etc.

usually games have a protan setting for setting red to orange and green to blue

[ocean spindle]

oh god and me with a red and grey pfp ksdmk

such bad timing to change it

[silent socket]

should i @ him here?

[past mesa]

yes

[ocean spindle]

all options b ok
he does
answer dms but maybe if u @ em u can get other players joinin

[silent socket]

okay tyty

@shadow flower hello! It was recommended to me to @ you for this issue: have you had any requests for red-green colourblind support in accessiblity settings? Most games have settings for the various colourblindnesses, but at the very least some protan support would go a long way. 40% of males in NA whether they know it or not are protan colourblind (red-green), so orange-ing up the reds and blue-ing up the greens really helps. for example, I'm essentially unable to see the security scans after the white line is gone leading you to them. I'm sure a lot of people are experiencing the same issue.

On a separate note, I haven't played since early alpha and it's come such a long way. I f*cking love this game ❤️

[obsidian hazel]

What is a booster

[ocean spindle]

a lil perk for the level

if it says 'one use', means it can be only b used for one run. like a single try for a level
once u die or u complete the level, its gone

if it says three use, it can be used three times

[obsidian hazel]

Gotcha

[vital sierra]

.t booster

[ocean spindle]

:]

[vital sierra]

hm, i thought there is a command for booster

[fierce nebula]

muted are "common"
rare is well "rare"
and aggressive is "legendary"

[vital sierra]

isn't there a post in-game that explain booster?

or it's just vaguely explain

[neon gust]

#changeboosters

[ocean spindle]

.t boosters

[uneven gulch]

Boosters are chemical cocktails injected into your brain, that you might earn from The Warden by collecting artifacts of different rarities. They are temporary boosters that are meant to increase your chance of completing expeditions in The Complex. Some boosters require nothing to be activated, while others might have conditions that the prisoners must meet in order to reap its benefits, and other boosters might give you disadvantages in certain aspects. The worth of a artifact is determined by the so-called "artifact heat", which is different for each level and each person. The more artifacts you collect in an expedition, the more the heat will decrease, which means that replaying the same level will make the artifacts of that expedition less valuable for a while. Heat will automatically increase by playing another expedition.

[ocean spindle]

hah

[vital sierra]

vaguely explain

[fierce nebula]

this is more like a lore explanation

but doesn't explain that either

[vital sierra]

i like that they keep it as a lore thing

but sometime, you need to explain thing

like, REALLY explain it mechanic

[ocean spindle]

think a .t artifact heat or artifact
would work
better

cause boosters arent the problem, its the artifacts

[fierce nebula]

they're essentially consumable perks that have limited uses, and sometimes both positive and negative effects

[vital sierra]

it's a cheat that you grind for

[fierce nebula]

I used my brain to condense it down to that

[ocean spindle]

its a sandwich

[neon gust]

your not wrong

[shadow flower]

Lo! There is nothing planned for that at the moment, but please tell me more in a DM

[craggy pier]

I wonder if there's someone around that just creates a booster with nearly maxed stat everytime he runs a map

As in, he's basically cheating but ends up just skipping a huge portion of the grind

[tardy ingot]

theres also someone that uses capped boosters and then just uses a cheat mode to 1 hit everything

[craggy pier]

I'd still consider that cheating but to be fair the whole booster system is imho so badly implemented

[craggy pier]

You can do that legit with boosters?

How much melee dmg you need to stack?

[tardy ingot]

with knife

[craggy pier]

I mean stuff like 1hit giants in occiput with hammer

[tardy ingot]

you can do it with hammer and spear

with like ~80% with spear and 100% with hammer afaik

and you can go to slightly above that

either way, they 1 tap giants with knife

even while their dmg bonus is off

[craggy pier]

Never knew melee% stacked that high was possible

[neon gust]

dont worry r8 will bring all those changes we hope for

[craggy pier]

let me guess, now someone comes in and says that cyberheist addresses those issues

[neon gust]

its too early in the morning

[vital sierra]

nah man, i want crimeboss

[neon gust]

Cant wair for arnold to give me missions

[vital sierra]

the candy

go get them gang

[turbid moss]

Hey guys, any idea on how to do R2E1??? We always die after the error alarm because everyone has to carry something??? Like how tf is it completable? Today was our second attempt but we have no idea what to do at this point. Any tips?

[solemn flint]

it is doable

[turbid moss]

I know it is it just seems so hard idk

[solemn flint]

as 1 wise man used to said, everything is possible if u have done it once

[turbid moss]

Have completed R7 and almost R3 but cant seem to get this done?

[vague bridge]

if you need to you can piecemeal them

[solemn flint]

cfoam cheese

the key is cfoam cheese

[turbid moss]

Wonder what that is lmao

[vague bridge]

cfoam cheese isnt a thing silly

[turbid moss]

permafoam the doors or what?

[solemn flint]

techniclly it is

[civic wave]

here we go again, cfoaming ladders

[solemn flint]

idk if they fix it or not but techniclly if u cfoam below a ladder the enenmy will get stuck bc they do not go through the already cfoam enemy

[vague bridge]

thats called strategy

[solemn flint]

i mean, if it make thing easier, just do it

[solemn flint]

it is still call cheese if i remember correctly

[vague bridge]

but thats exactly the purpose of cfoam

slow down the enemies

[solemn flint]

no

[turbid moss]

And how would that improve our chances? Are we expected to stay on top of a ladder while there are team scans or what?

[icy cave]

I mean it's an E mission

[solemn flint]

no

basiclly all of the tool refil go to cfoam

[icy cave]

Bruh

Just do it legit

[solemn flint]

wep

when legit is too hard

[turbid moss]

And yet I see people speedrunning it in 10 minutes lol I know its cheese but still

[icy cave]

You get better

[solemn flint]

unlock the cheese locker

[icy cave]

Yeah but those are on ANOTHER level

[solemn flint]

it is fun to do surge and error without cheese

now we also have new technology

that make the surge+error alarm alot easier

[icy cave]

It's about managing the Error. carry stuff when you need only. the cell will be gone fast that makes 2 shooters and 2 carriers, baby you drop at door and then do the alarm which means 3 people can shoot now

[vague bridge]

also just playing more makes you generally better

[icy cave]

And also. the Error ramps up so a bit of pace is needed

[solemn flint]

does the 99% infection resist booster still exist?

[turbid moss]

How many cells do we need? Since we found another one in the zones after the error

So that would mean there are 2 cell surge doors?

[icy cave]

Dunno never use boosters.

[turbid moss]

Or are we supposed to carry only 1

(btw we've gone in blind every attempt since we don't want to spoil whats coming)

[icy cave]

In that case what you want me to say 😅

Just bring both cells. drop it at alarms and stuff until needed or not

[turbid moss]

Yeah, I came here since we can't seem to figure it out, I don't care about spoilers now

[vague bridge]

how many surges have you passed

[turbid moss]

got to the first on the first attempt

this one was worse

I can't remember if we managed to do the first

[icy cave]

But you are not on the Error then

[turbid moss]

we were

after the error

[civic wave]

There are 3 sectors doors you need to go through for the error part of the mission, all of them require cells, and the 1st and 3rd are surge alarms

[tardy ingot]

thats not even how you do it

[turbid moss]

After the error alarm, on the first surge

[icy cave]

ooooooh

[civic wave]

after the first surge alarm you can drop turbine (couldn't do that in the original r2e1)

[icy cave]

I was counting first from start of the level 🤦‍♂️

[tardy ingot]

the actual ladder foam "cheese" abuses them not being able to go onto a ladder if theres 3 on it.

[turbid moss]

for the entirety of the run?

[solemn flint]

i dont remember stuff after 1 month of not touching this game

[icy cave]

👆

[turbid moss]

nah lol

[tardy ingot]

first error surge is what pachi means

[icy cave]

Nah yeah they on same page

[civic wave]

yea after the first surge in the error section there's no more fog to go through

[icy cave]

I was in another chapter😂

[tardy ingot]

also i love to get people suprised with speed times. But its not even been done below 18
(and even the sub low and sub 20 runs are after dozens of resets and tries)

[civic wave]

a bit of a shame, because in the original you had a ladder straight down into fog for the next zone

[turbid moss]

Yes I understand that, we can drop the turbine after the first surge for the rest of the mission

[icy cave]

Yeah it was basically flipped no? OG ends in fog. AlT starts in it

[tardy ingot]

true. Thats the only thing i think they made worse

that zone was horrific

so much fun

[civic wave]

first time in there, took a wrong turn into a dead end and got murdered

fun times

[tardy ingot]

same

we were so confused

[civic wave]

yeeeep

[turbid moss]

Would that matter if we had 100% infection resistance?

I'm thinking we should drop the turbine for the whole level lmao

[tardy ingot]

dont rely on boosters

[tardy ingot]

the first part of the error rly isnt that tough
1 person (preferably bio) can just clean most rooms. And if its too much the team can drop stuff and help

have fog repellers for the in fog area in the end and the alarm and its chill

[vague bridge]

turbine is also good for seeing the enemy

[turbid moss]

Aight I guess we'll try again sometime ty for the tips

[fierce nebula]

I can't wait for new PayDay 3 to feature "policeman" and "buff policeman" along with "stealth policemen" varients

[high patio]

Is it possible to command the bots to kill enemies such as big guys and groups of sleepers in sync with your charge up and hit? If so how? I have tried using the commands on big guys to get them to sync and they just seem to sit there..

[tardy ingot]

nope. they only assist onec something woke up

[fierce nebula]

they can't even make turrets focus on one enemy

which is why the biotracker has the useless feature known as "why can you singular ping"

[high patio]

Okay, thank you.

[ocean spindle]

u can male em kill a big one tho

its a bit hard

but if u charge ur melee weapon [any can work except knife] and hit it, itll stagger
the bots will run to melee it too, and so u can charge another hit while the bots are hittin it

and so it can be done, u just need to make sure the bots are near you

[heavy dirge]

Hey does GTFO scale with the ammount of players in the lobby?

[craggy pier]

no

[ocean spindle]

nope

all is the same

no matter how many players bots nor anythin :]

[jagged shore]

they removed that useless feature tho didn't they

[tardy ingot]

yea

[neon gust]

The story of that feature is that they had it plan

Apparently they just couldnt finish it so they scrapt it

It was gonna be in r6 if it was completed

[soft crater]

if only it was like

single tagged enemy gets hammer of dawn'd

[devout nimbus]

these bugs gunna be fixed EVENTUALLY right? I mean does anyone know if they are actually acknowledging any of the broke ass shit or should I just expect this stuff to still be broken after R8 and they move on to that one other game their making.

I was having a lot of fun trying to solo C2 until they made it so bots cant pick stuff up in loud

Like people say the game is hard to play alone, but like I feel that it would be possible to go to the end of C tier atleast by yourself with bots if they functioned as intended

[vague bridge]

you guys cant?

[minor fractal]

I assume this is R2C2?

[devout nimbus]

Ye

[minor fractal]

I feel like that wouldn't ever matter that much, just have bots vibe during combat.

Funnel center door.

[devout nimbus]

You think I could just go back and forth for all the cells? I feel like I might run out of disinfect

[turbid horizon]

R7C2 the bots used to be great. Now they fuck you over

[minor fractal]

Oh, is this R7?

[turbid horizon]

Oh R2

[minor fractal]

Maybe then, but you can also eat max infection.

It'd just take forever

[turbid horizon]

Well both of them kinda get u screwed

[minor fractal]

R2C2 shouldn't be bad at all.

[devout nimbus]

R7

[tardy ingot]

R2C2 -> easy with bots
R7C2 -> error section yikes

[minor fractal]

Fog alarm is easy.

[devout nimbus]

I meant

[devout nimbus]

MB

[devout nimbus]

I read your message way to fast and thought u said R7C2

[minor fractal]

I wouldn't expect anything to be fixed, though.

I gave up after sniper melee.

[turbid horizon]

Yeah error section of R7C2 is so frustrating now

Sigh

I got so close to beating EX with bots, wanted to try with the new weapons and got boned from that bug

Hope it gets fixed

[devout nimbus]

Its such a shame becuz that lvl is lokey fire, I just wish I could have the option to do it by myself

I thought they said they had like 100 devs are they all working on the new game or somdin?

[minor fractal]

It kind of seems that way, yeah.

[turbid horizon]

They said they still had some devs working on GTFO, but like it’s definitely not much

[soft crater]

"some"

[neon gust]

People be blind

You can literally see in the patchnotes whos working

Theres like 1 level designer and calle

[soft crater]

Based dragon

[neon gust]

None of the bug fixes are actually like code fix

[turbid horizon]

The levels are already designed tho

[soft crater]

patch notes are always the bare minimum anyhow

[neon gust]

^

And are mostly just easy changes the level designer can do

[soft crater]

there are unlisted changes

[minor fractal]

I mean, realistically, it's at least 3 people, maybe 4 or 5.

Calle, level designer, lore person/people.

Occasionally some bugfix will occur or something will be rebalanced, so that's maybe 2 extra people.

[soft crater]

Beard man

[minor fractal]

Like the Burst Cancel fix.

[turbid horizon]

That’s been there tho

[neon gust]

I mostly see 2 people at most tbh

[turbid horizon]

Afaik in modded levels, the burst cancel fix was already implemented

[minor fractal]

4 people, then. 1 Calle, 1 level designer, 1 writer, 0.5 coders, 0.5 people from the balance team.

[neon gust]

Calle counts as 2

[minor fractal]

We get bugfix in R4 and R6, big hype.

Also, big speculation, but considering the game got just a little bit buggy in R6-R7, but we were still getting some high production stuff...

Chances are they were diverting coders from GTFO pretty early.

[devout nimbus]

Should I expect R8 to be high in quality or no

[minor fractal]

No idea.

[turbid horizon]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[minor fractal]

I'm thinking yes, but...

[jagged shore]

pessimism would be better
then if it is good, you're pleasantly surprised

[tardy ingot]

hey

thats my life motto

[winged turtle]

Thats on my family Crest

"Low Expectations,
Never Disappointing."

[neon gust]

Kinda sad tbh

Gtfo just needs some tlc

[soft crater]

[winged turtle]

[dark halo]

Any endgame apparel for finishing all 8 rds?

[winged turtle]

8 rds? lol

[jagged shore]

wouldn't shock me if we did get something, but rn we only have 4

[craggy pier]

pulsing neon rainbow palette

[jagged shore]

now that'd be awesome

[tardy ingot]

neon death yellow

[dark halo]

Free copy of payday 3

[tardy ingot]

true lemon

also true lemon head, where its just a huge lemon you smushed your head into

[silver fable]

limited in terms of major changes

keep in mind that bringing the old rundowns back means they won't be wanting to change anything that fucks with map seeding

[minor fractal]

They can just make new ComplexResourceData sets.

They did that in R5 to avoid reseeding some Floodways maps.

[silver fable]

hm, okay

they couldn't do that for past rundowns though?

[minor fractal]

What do you mean?

[silver fable]

for the alts

[minor fractal]

Why not?

What's stopping them?

[silver fable]

it seems they reseeded everything for the alts, right?

[minor fractal]

Yeah.

I imagine it'd be a pain in the ass to pull the old ComplexResourceData

[past mesa]

It would be

[minor fractal]

Also, while it's possible that you can't avoid all changes via manipulating ComplexResourceData...

[past mesa]

It would be faster to just make really big level geos

[minor fractal]

They can just do work-arounds on the development side so that none of the R8 changes are hard-coded.

[silver fable]

I'd guess that would limit how much new stuff they could do

[minor fractal]

Potentially, but I don't think so.

[silver fable]

which I think they've already alluded to in their PR

[minor fractal]

That would have been more likely in R1-R3, when the map gen was still a lot more in-dev...

But I'd imagine things are pretty set in stone rn.

[silver fable]

being set in stone kinda implies you don't change shit

[minor fractal]

It means you don't change certain shit

and I'm saying that what that certain shit is isn't something they'd have much interest in changing anyway.

They could, to my knowledge, add a new enviro, new tiles to every existing enviro, new markers to every existing enviro, etc. in R8 w/out rerolling old maps.

[past mesa]

They could they can also mess it up

[minor fractal]

The worst thing I can think of is that they probably can't fix certain bugs, like weird ass locker spawns, in old maps.

[past mesa]

Sometimes when you play old modded profiles you could play old maps with new seeding

[silver fable]

hm, even as they add the alts you see random shit in existing levels breaking

[past mesa]

This is because they forget what shit they are using in data blocks so when they need to make new waves they sometimes overwrite old stuff that is being used

[silver fable]

bizarre

[past mesa]

Yeah

[minor fractal]

Yeah, that's not map gen lol.

[past mesa]

Yeah it isn’t really

They probs can add new things no issue

Idk if they are gonna do it though

[silver fable]

fwiw I believe most of this is possible and even likely

[minor fractal]

R6Ext is probably a good example here, as well.

Hell, most extensions at that

[past mesa]

Mr ray do you think we be geting r4 extensions on r4 drop

[minor fractal]

Yes.

[past mesa]

I hope so

I really be hoping for the r8 2024

[minor fractal]

That was a good joke until I checked the date.

[past mesa]

And don’t want to do 6 nore months of r6 extensions

[minor fractal]

Doomge

Don't worry, Stockholm syndrome will kick in.

Just like AltR3

AltR6 will be the peak re-release.

[silver fable]

was altr2 stockholm syndrome in reverse?

because I cared about, like, 3 levels in altr2

but was pleasantly surprised by altr3, tbh

[barren abyss]

hey uh call me stupid but what does "the stack" mean

[ocean spindle]

where does it says that im sorry

[barren abyss]

//Root/ARCHIVE007/read LUM-3SS-6ZN.LOG

closer to the end

[nimble plover]

^^found through the terminal interface on the Santonian Industries website

[ocean spindle]

yeah ik

[jagged shore]

presumably something like their objective stack
not the lore expert so kinda going off of assumptions and what i think is the case
but it's the list of things they're assigned to do by their, brainwashing? i guess?

[ocean spindle]

yeah seems like a question for #gtfo-lore

[barren abyss]

what does objective stack mean then?

just in a general sense

[jagged shore]

it's the list of things they're assigned to do by their, brainwashing? i guess?

[barren abyss]

fair enough

[jagged shore]

kinda what like

schaeffer and henriksson talk about after schaeffer woke him up in r7c1

[ocean spindle]

i dont think its talkin of the same thing but i have no idea so ah sure

[keen forge]

I'm trying to post to the lfg but for some reason it wont let me, I put everything in but when i press enter it just makes my screen shake.

[jagged shore]

yeah i didn't really like
read the log so

that's just what i assume it is based on "the stack"

[nimble plover]

ahahaha brilliant

[jagged shore]

frosty would probably have a clearer picture lol

the resident lore specialist

[ocean spindle]

idk what u tryin to text but check the slowmode

just in case its that

im not sure

[jagged shore]

yeah sorry lmao, had a quick glance at it but didn't fully read it

it might still be, cause another slightly* more thorough skim makes it look like it's talking about legion, so it might still be talking about an objective stack? but idk

[keen forge]

okay. that might have been it, cause it finally let me post.

[ocean spindle]

yeah might have been that

cause it does the same effect

anyways have funn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:D

[jagged shore]

but definitely should ask in #gtfo-lore as there are people who actually know what's going on there lmao

[barren abyss]

👍

[icy cave]

when slowmode is restraining you. You can always edit previous messages. there's no timer on that

[burnt galleon]

Hey everyone! I'm new to GTFO. And i got a question. What do numbers under Rundown mean?
Ex.
R1A1 "The admin"
Artifact heat: 98%
Completed: (6, -, -, -) <- What does this mean?

[proud ice]

apart from sniper is there any other weapons that one shot large enemies

[proud ice]

how many times completed the stage

and i think the other spots stand for different difficulty objectives like secondary and overload

[fierce nebula]

yeah if the level only has main then it's (1,-,-,-)
if it has secondary (1,0,-,-)
and overload (1,0,0,-)
and then prisoner efficiency (1,0,0,0)

[icy cave]

Number of completions with the order being [main,secondary,overload, PE] a - means that objective is not in the mission

[burnt galleon]

I see. Thank You

[icy cave]

👍

[wooden loom]

on my bioscanner i got lots of red spots but they are tiny, what do they mean?

they arent moving so surely they are not scouts

[silver fable]

it's a bug

they should show up as either regular white spots if they're asleep, or regular red spots if they're awake

you also can't ping them if they show up as tiny red dots, which is annoying

[wooden loom]

oh i see

thanks

[fierce nebula]

it's a weird and annoying bug

[viral tulip]

what mission has scouts close to spawn?

[winged turtle]

R7B1!! you get two pretty quick, why do you ask?

[viral tulip]

want to get comfortable with stealthing them with the bat

[winged turtle]

i have a copy pasta for that!

1 sec

[ocean spindle]

BAT
BAT BASEEED

:D

[hardy grotto]

R2e1 has one in first zone if you’ve got that unlocked

[ocean spindle]

yehh!!!!!!!!

[winged turtle]

so, if you want to lab stealth scout kill attempts R7B1 is your man.

you stealth kill the first zone (Zone88), you do an alarm for one of the locked zones (Zone_89 & Zone_90) and WithOut Opening That Door, you do the second alarm door as well. BEFORE you open any Security doors, and after both alarms, you go to the console and "List Key" and then you "Query Key_color_123" to find out which of the two security doors you open.
You then open the security door that has the key in it and you stealth into that room. Without killing the scout you get the key. then you push forward into Zone_91. This zone will have three rooms and one scout total. Kill the scout if you have to but leaving it untouched is good for practice with this loop. The security door is to Zone_92, once you get there, you have a check point.
Once you finish that check point scan you can stealth attempt 2-3 scouts in a row behind you. If you botch it, and wipe, you just get sent back to the checkpoint. If you succeed, you can just shoot the bots and take fall damage to reset to checkpoint and try again!

Set up takes me a little less than 10 minutes, and then I can get 3 scout attempts within 5 minutes without reload screens.

Load out recs:
PC: Any, Any, Hammer, Bio
Bots: PDW, Mach Gun, Hammer, turrets

[viral tulip]

cant find people to do r2d2 with

[hardy grotto]

unlucky

[ocean spindle]

HAMMER

HAH

weak

...

also the loadouts of the bots on guns never changes

[viral tulip]

nice

[ocean spindle]

and idk how good they b with a pdw

u should add to those two the two assault rifles

[winged turtle]

bot load outs are there for the very new, and so is hammer recommendation

[winged turtle]

HAR over Veruta for bots?

[ocean spindle]

absolutely

and the normal one too

[winged turtle]

when HAR got nerfed, it was only the recoil spread that changed right?

[ocean spindle]

yeah

got the recoild of the great heavens

... i think

i mean idk i joined r7 when it was nerfed

[dry pumice]

You missed the best general use special

If you didn't want to think about it - you brought HAR

[minor fractal]

The issue is less so the recoil and more-so the recoil + few desirable characteristics.

Assuming there's no bot magic that makes HAR really strong on them, R2 MG has way more power.

[neon gust]

veruta on bots its the best gun

har has very few bullets

and when they go insane an actually start firing multiple enemies at once they can shoot for far longer

with veruta

[ocean spindle]

mh i guess the excel page was just

funky

[arctic marten]

give the bots burst cannon cause they can burst cancel

[ocean spindle]

i already gave two of my bots the machineguns so ah i guess

[arctic marten]

insane value

[winged turtle]

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[icy nacelle]

HEL Shotgun clearly.

[ocean spindle]

dmr

[viral tulip]

wait, do you need a baby for the R7B1 mission?

[ocean spindle]

yes

its delivered with u

like in a1

[viral tulip]

bruh

[ocean spindle]

u forgot it didnt u

:]

[viral tulip]

yep

and all bots lobby

i mean

i already done it

so idc

[ocean spindle]

well hope u enjoy the 7 km walk

[viral tulip]

just put 2 mines

and boom

[ocean spindle]

nahhhh complete it

[viral tulip]

too late

[ocean spindle]

u came so far

ah

:]

well now its doin it all over again

[winged turtle]

woah woah woah, are you playing the level? to completion? why?

its a mid ass level, just grind out and practice scouts for as long as you want, then exit lobby

spare yourself the stress, do not fall for the sunk cost fallacy

[ocean spindle]

... u know they have to complete the level if they want r7c1 right

i mea i get its for practice

but if they havent done it

might as well

then go back to the past rundowns

[winged turtle]

ohhhh he still needs the completion? thats a bummer

[ocean spindle]

i mean sounds like it

if they forgot the neonate

:]

[icy nacelle]

His earlier question was about best level for practicing Scouts tho?

And like, the best way to practice that involves just rerunning the checkpoint repeatedly.

[ocean spindle]

yes but if they forgot the neonate and asked if it was needed for the level
they might as well do the whole level

and then come back to practice

thats what i mean

kill two birds with a stone

[icy nacelle]

It sounds like they have completed it to me given they mentioned not having folks to try R2D2 With.

Wait, no, brain fart.

[ocean spindle]

... no yeah

i can do all r2 and not have r7b1

[icy nacelle]

Ye.

[ocean spindle]

i kinda do lmao

[icy nacelle]

I just haven't done R7 At all in ages so my brain went R2D2 = R7D2.

[untold cairn]

is there any information on how specifically damage falloff works? The wiki has the range of each weapon listed, but no explanation of what it means.

Is "range" the distance damage falloff starts? Once falloff kicks in, is damage reduced by a fixed percentage, or does it scale more severely over longer distances? If it scales, does it scale linearly?

[desert falcon]

The range on the wiki is the max range without any dmg falloff effects, don't know how its calculated past that range.

[untold cairn]

thanks

seems hard to test tbh

[desert falcon]

no worries tho, there are a few ppl here who know the exact math behind it

[untold cairn]

nice, I hope one of them answers at some point

[latent obsidian]

My understanding is that after it hits its "range limit" the damage starts falling off linearly to a second range limit at which point it either does a very low flat amount or no damage at all

[untold cairn]

makes sense. that's a pretty standard way to do it

[latent obsidian]

But the last person that tried to get that theory confirmed got nerd emoji bombed so its the best guess I've got

[untold cairn]

is the 2nd range limit just double the 1st range limit, or is it some other number?

[latent obsidian]

some other number

[untold cairn]

got it

[latent obsidian]

you might find this spreadsheet interesting: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Br_2A3n3YDO1v0Kld27KCLvwRYKJqjliyhntoT2NTp4/edit#gid=910247561

Lots of stats on there (also some spoilers)

for enemy names and stats you might not have met

There is a falloff calculator tab which you might be able to play around with if you copy the sheet out to somewhere you can edit

[untold cairn]

that's fine tbh. as long as it doesn't straight-up tell me how to deal with new mechanics/enemies I'm ok with it

[latent obsidian]

yeah this also has "falloff start" and "falloff end" for each weapon

[untold cairn]

just knowing an enemy type exists doesn't make it less fun to encounter them and figure out how to deal with them

yeah this spreadsheet is great

how accurate is it? On a scale of, "These numbers were pulled directly from game files" to "I made up numbers that look right"?

[latent obsidian]

I'm very confident in the accuracy

[arctic marten]

from what I understand, damage falloff is calculated as:
damage stat * the higher of either: 1-((distance of shot - falloffX) / (falloffY - falloffX) or falloff minimum damage

[untold cairn]

got it. so it scales linearly to falloff minimum damage

[arctic marten]

yes, so even at an insanely high range, guns will still do the minimum falloff damage

which appears to be 0.1

[latent obsidian]

0.1 * damage stat based on your formula?

[arctic marten]

yes

[untold cairn]

yep that's what the spreadsheet says

so guns scale from 100% down to 10% damage over the falloff distance

[minor fractal]

Iirc it might scale from 100% to 0%, but bottoms out at 10%.

[minor fractal]

Yeah, this.

Damn, old af convo

[jagged shore]

this is what i've heard as well
so the damage stops dropping a little before the falloff end

[vestal sentinel]

does in game chat trigger sleepers?

[ocean spindle]

nope

u can talk with mic or not and say whatevs

even in a room with 77 of em

[vestal sentinel]

nice

[mighty zodiac]

are we ever getting achievements in gtfo?

[ocean spindle]

maybe

[mighty zodiac]

is there a way we can ask the devs if that's in their plans?

[ocean spindle]

not really
it used to b in their plants tho

hold on

.t roadmap

[uneven gulch]

You can view the roadmap here: https://gtfothegame.com/roadmap

[ocean spindle]

it appeared there

but its been a while since it was updated

[stoic helm]

Can a Hel rifle one shot a scout?

[jagged shore]

yeah

assuming you mean headshot

[stoic helm]

yes

I often run a precision rifle for scout busting duty

So I was wondering if I could spice up my selection a bit 🥹

[jagged shore]

prec is a bit of an interesting choice for that duty lol but yknow
yeah hel rifle would accomplish that job too

[stoic helm]

How so

[minor fractal]

HEL Rifle, BC, Sniper, and Choke Mod are all good options.

[stoic helm]

It's pretty aight to see through fog

And map designers love fog

[minor fractal]

PR just kind of blows rn

It's not unplayable

but, if you can play something else...

[jagged shore]

i feel like it doesn't help with fog that much after they nerfed the thermals when r2 came out lol

but idk i don't run it that much

[stoic helm]

So I've been running with a nut clamp all this time?!?

[jagged shore]

having to order your reload from amazon after 8 shots isn't very ideal lol

[tardy ingot]

and even the 8 shots are basically wet noodles

[tardy ingot]

Also back shot (tho… why?)

[jagged shore]

unrelated, it's kinda funny to me how somewhat frequently i see people on streams thinking it's still a sniper, with the power to boot

[ocean spindle]

i think pr is nice for some levels, the thermals specifically for haha spoilers
and in long hallways its
aight
but ah, dmr is kinda the same thing but a bit better

[tardy ingot]

somebody trying to tell their team you need spear to melee waves on r2d2 since theres not enough ressources

[past mesa]

Based

[jagged shore]

why spear specifically lmao

[ocean spindle]

cause spear b popular with newies

and

cant do that

[tardy ingot]

i have no clue

they also said bullpup good

[neon gust]

another classic eva L

[jagged shore]

really wish bullpup was just a bit better

i love it so much but reload man

[stoic helm]

I like the spear, the range is incredible

[ocean spindle]

uhhhhhhhh

how we

explain it

[tardy ingot]

When ya show me how to throw spear

[ocean spindle]

lightly

[neon gust]

its crazy good against big shooters variants

[ocean spindle]

and softly

[neon gust]

like hybrid and big shooters

[ocean spindle]

would b a lil too powerful in my opinion

[tardy ingot]

?

[ocean spindle]

dont ask

[tardy ingot]

im not sure if dragon is joking or not

[ocean spindle]

yes

... i mean prob

[jagged shore]

i mean, rn it's just worse than carbine without headshots
and a way way worse reload to boot

[tardy ingot]

since its 4 head hits for both it and hammer

[ocean spindle]

yes and if it had reload it would b better than smg assault rifle machinepistol and every other automatic main

kinda

[tardy ingot]

Bullpup doesnt even have „good“ stats if you ignore its reload

[ocean spindle]

im exaggerating

[tardy ingot]

like its dmg per refill/mag are bad

its firerate is not good for being a „precision“ weapon if you wanna conserver ammo

[jagged shore]

bullpup just barely beats out smg on base damage lol

[neon gust]

just aim at the head

[ocean spindle]

mh i guess i was wrong

[neon gust]

you have no spread

[ocean spindle]

sorry

[neon gust]

skill issue

[tardy ingot]

?

in moments like this i just hate discord conversations

cuz theres no way to tell if dragon either missunderstood or is making a „funny“

[neon gust]

classic eva l

[ocean spindle]

yeah its a joke

its ok

[neon gust]

no my guy

[ocean spindle]

dont worry

[neon gust]

bullpup its good

you just have a skill issue

[ocean spindle]

there ya go

[neon gust]

also spear its also decent

the extra range makes it really confy when handeling big shooters and hybrids

thats why i said its good

[tardy ingot]

Spear users when they arrive at the first enemy and the whole room is already cleared

[neon gust]

hold on

[ocean spindle]

cause of BAT AND KNIFE USERS BABYYYYYYYYYYYY /lh

[neon gust]

before you give me another niche situation perfect for your argument

[tardy ingot]

thats why i asked if you could teach me how to throw the spear. I just cant get its range bonus down

[neon gust]

cuz i know you bad

[ocean spindle]

once i threw spears irl

it was so hard

[neon gust]

i mean irl spears where like the most dangerous weapons

same with hammers

[ocean spindle]

and bats

wait

[neon gust]

if you wore armor irl and see a guy with a hammer

[tardy ingot]

irl spears
gtfo spear:

[neon gust]

i cannot say kill yo sel

holy shit discord

censorship

[ocean spindle]

good

[neon gust]

[ocean spindle]

:]

[tardy ingot]

i remember a gtfo stream discussion

[ocean spindle]

about salads

[tardy ingot]

somebody saying theyd rather get hit with a knife (not head) over a sledge (not head)

[ocean spindle]

nothin to do with gtfo but was a discussion

[neon gust]

i wanted to say "if you see a guy with a hammer and you have those medivial armor on, you might as well kill yo sel"

[tardy ingot]

their reasoning. Its easier to dodge the hammer hit

well bruh, the argument was about what youd rather get HIT with

[neon gust]

like irl?

[tardy ingot]

yea

[neon gust]

i would rather get hit by nothing

thank you

[tardy ingot]

same

[ocean spindle]

i mean both b scary but the knife
ah if its like a weak hit, it would do less dmg i think

cause even a slip from the hammer just fkin ends

well in the head tho
maybe we could survive better a knife

...

ah yeah this is gtfo questions

[tardy ingot]

a straight up hammer hit will smush any organs and break bones

easiest way to survive is to hope it only wrecks your arms or smth

knife is deadly but its unironically more about bleeding out

[ocean spindle]

yeah if they leave it there

its

easier to survive

go to the doctor like 'AAAAAAAAAAAAA'

[neon gust]

a well place knife and you died a slow death

[tardy ingot]

a well placed hammer and you either ded or you will die a gruesome death

[ocean spindle]

what if i get hit by a cfoam launcher

[neon gust]

you get pregnant

[vestal sentinel]

hey i got a q, are the two thermal weps any good?

[neon gust]

yes

[tardy ingot]

still one of the funniest takes ive seen

[neon gust]

you dont have to rely on bio and do some decent damage

[tardy ingot]

dragon. Why ya being so mean to them

[ocean spindle]

all guns nice guns
as much as some people dont agree ksks

[neon gust]

pr can help you snipe scouts and easily pick enemies at a distance

[vestal sentinel]

What about running both? Too redundant?

[neon gust]

ok that i can legit laugh my ass off

[ocean spindle]

ah u dont really need the two together

[tardy ingot]

running both is basically just overkill on thermal

[ocean spindle]

yeah

u just need one if u want it for the thermal

[tardy ingot]

pdw is actually quite good. Theres better but also definetly worse

[ocean spindle]

if u do like the weapons as ur favs, u could

[tardy ingot]

PR is useable but definetly really weak

[tardy ingot]

its one of those
„Im experienced!“

[vestal sentinel]

seems like putting therms on a short range SMG is kinda... strange

[tardy ingot]

wait can i send ya a dm dragon?

[neon gust]

if you use pr make sure you know how to aim

[ocean spindle]

ah well, not really, enemies jump at ur face so

[neon gust]

unless you block me you shouldnt have any issue

[vestal sentinel]

thanks y'all, I'll try that pdw

[ocean spindle]

aiiight
good luck

:]

i dont like the pdw but ik thats a me problem, not the gun problem

im just stupid

[neon gust]

if i can hold a surge with bp and pr then the gun its good

[ocean spindle]

bp
boop

[neon gust]

if i cannot hold shit then the gun bad

i CANT WAIT

FOR HEAVY SMG REWORK

[tardy ingot]

but only if solo, inverted controls, no run, crouch or jump and no reloading

[ocean spindle]

god i need that gun so bad

its the gun i wanna try the most with the supershottie ksks

[tardy ingot]

i wish wed get r6 HAR

[weary mesa]

Another Full auto Secondary with no charge up 👀

[ocean spindle]

har died 7 years ago, u gotta let it go

[neon gust]

trye

i change my stance on that

like

bruh

rifle 5 damage

meanwhile har the way it is

hell no

[tardy ingot]

if heavy smg becomes r6 HAR ill cry

id play it

[ocean spindle]

that would b hilarious lmao

[tardy ingot]

but i would cry

[ocean spindle]

u would shot enemies cryin 'what the fuck is this qwq'

[weary mesa]

Can we get R4 hel revo balance on all guns

Who's the bug hunter that made it

We need him back

[tardy ingot]

nah. All guns get the carbine treatment

even burst cannon

[mossy aurora]

does anyone know if r3a3 reactor waves can spawn in the reactor room itself

[neon gust]

hopefullly they wont do this to heavy smg

3.1 damge
35/180
pres 0.8
move to special

hopefully it would never happen

[tardy ingot]

afaik they shouldnt

[jagged shore]

everyone pick a specific gun that's fine as it is and never run it, make them see oh this gun is never picked clearly it needs buffed
and make it way good

[neon gust]

they usually spawn on any of the zones you go to get codes

[leaden briar]

later rounds often spawn in the opened side zones

[ocean spindle]

in later rounds they spawn from the side zones

[mossy aurora]

i am trying to hold in those zones to prevent back spawning, but wondering if i am delaying the waves getting to me which makes them linger too long into the time i need to get codes

[leaden briar]

which is pretty annoying

[tardy ingot]

Yeah it will delay heavily

we tried it for speed

they take ages

[leaden briar]

There is no point in delaying the wave, just turret your back

[mossy aurora]

i kind of need turret facing forwards though

[tardy ingot]

yea

[leaden briar]

run 4 turrets

[mossy aurora]

im solo

[leaden briar]

or 3

[ocean spindle]

run

:D

[leaden briar]

oH

[mossy aurora]

those side room tiles are actually really nice for holding, the problem is the time

[tardy ingot]

ryk. Dunno if that will work.

But have ya tried holding „bridge“ room front (at sec door). And if they front spawn you can get quick clear, if back spawn you turn around

Backspawns will always be rough tho sadly

yeah side zones are nice to hold. But you basically only get far spawns

which kinda sucks

[mossy aurora]

my normal strat has been to hold on bridge, but stand in reactor before the wave spawns then run up the catwalk to get a closer spawn, and often i can clear the wave before the 2nd spawn

[tardy ingot]

yea that should also work definetly

[mossy aurora]

but if back spawns happen, its hard for me to gather them in 1 direction on that catwalk tile

[neon gust]

hold front bridge door

have sniper sentry watching your back

problem solved

[mossy aurora]

i tried that and i stood in catwalk tile to have them spawn closer, but they insta broke bottom door

[tardy ingot]

man. Sniper sentry rly got man handled

with the nerfs

[mossy aurora]

maybe i try that again and just force elevator spawn

[neon gust]

no catwalk

[leaden briar]

they nerfed sniper sentry again

[neon gust]

like the door itself

[leaden briar]

sniper sentry

[minor fractal]

It's actually fair now.

[neon gust]

yeah

[leaden briar]

wdym fair

[tardy ingot]

id say it probably needs some love without bio and prob remove bio symbiosis

[neon gust]

it doesnt you know kill either everything or it doesnt kill just enough that alarms isnt easy

[jagged shore]

need someone to do math to determine how ammo efficient it is vs burst now

[tardy ingot]

without bio? Just worse

unless giants or chargers (but good luck having it shoot chargers)

but yeah it was too good before

[neon gust]

burst sentry its so ass against chargers

headless charger = sentry wont do anything

[tardy ingot]

issue is the 3 second shot delay now

sniper sentry legit wont have enough range to target n shoot on them

[minor fractal]

Less efficient w/out, more efficient w/

Burst is around 40 kills per refill, same as old Sniper sentry

Assuming 2-bursts per target

[tardy ingot]

40 per refill

Raay?

[minor fractal]

I only know the max value

Should be 8 per refill

[tardy ingot]

i mean the way you typed it

XD

40 kills per refill

its 7 per sniper now per refill

so kills 10 under bio per refill if im not wrong

[minor fractal]

9 I think

45 max, yeah?

[tardy ingot]

im a bit confused sry (its late)

sniper gets 7 (maybe some decimals) per refill rn

[minor fractal]

Bio synergy gives it 45 shots at 100%?

So 9 per refill

[tardy ingot]

and bio makes it use 70% instead of 100% of a bullet right?

oh you are looking at total ammo

it doesnt get 20% per refill but slightly more

(Due to 32 max ammo now)

[minor fractal]

35* p sure

[tardy ingot]

might remember wrong

but when i tested on day 1 i could swear it was 32

[neon gust]

36

[tardy ingot]

but im rly not sure rn

[leaden briar]

32

max ammo 32

[neon gust]

ty kavin really cool

[minor fractal]

Ah, I'm mixing it up with the cutoff

Which is 25

I'll recheck the synergy no.

Yeah, max should be 45.

GW2 Raiding rn.

[minor fractal]

But yeah, it's better than Burst w/ synergy

Plus more range, plus its economy doesn't tank if it's not shooting a regular small.

It has actual trade-offs and its skill requirements matter.

[silver fable]

how does current sniper sentry (without symbiosis) compare to r6 sniper sentry?

I thought sniper sentry was fine in r5 and r6

symbiosis was an interesting idea that was overdone, and I still have no goddamn idea why they buffed base sniper sentry

but before the last patch sniper sentry without symbiosis seemed pretty reasonable to me

[past mesa]

Symbiosis giving ammo efficiency was to much

[silver fable]

I feel like every level is awash with tool, so I'm not all that about the efficiency tbh

[past mesa]

I mean triple sniper sentry’s all getting in general shots off shouldn’t be sustainable

[silver fable]

yeah trivializing 4man reactor holds or whatever because you can deploy 3 sentries and keep them fed forever seems pretty messed up

I haven't played 4man in a very long time, I'm kinda used to 1 or 2 sentries providing ample support in duos and then wondering what the hell all this tool is for

which on reflection, maybe just speaks to how unhinged balance in this game is for 4man

[minor fractal]

W/out symbiosis, slightly worse I think.

3s shot delay (not just spin-up) is new I think, and it's obviously losing ammo.

R5 it had back damage as well, so it could do quite a lot of damage.

[silver fable]

yeah I wasn't crazy about the back damage thing

I wonder if it might be better to just return to r6 sentry with no symbiosis bonus, then introduce a 5th sentry built around the symbiosis concept

since classic sniper sentry had its uses, even in the midst of r6 burst sentry

[weary mesa]

Having 4 sentries is fine don't need more, Sniper just feels like a synergy tool now

Like cfoam

[devout nimbus]

I am suppose to make game suggestions thru email right? where do I find their email I wanna cry about chargers flying through the floor/ walls when they are punching.

[neon gust]

we've been crying for 4 years

[ocean spindle]

a llorar a la lloreria

[neon gust]

no importa cuanto lloro, dios no me escucha

[past mesa]

4 more years

[devout nimbus]

To my understanding there like no devs currently working on the game yea? Like they built this system that the level designers use and moved on to whatever they doing next, am I right?

[neon gust]

4 more years to buff carabine again

[neon gust]

nope

[devout nimbus]

huh

[neon gust]

they just doing another game

and diverted everything into it

left like 1 level designer and calle

[devout nimbus]

so is R8 gunna be made by like 2 ppl

[neon gust]

theyre doing what they can grantly

so even tho they get criticism its understandable

[neon gust]

nah they just gonna pull everyone into the game again for like 3 months

then finish and move on

some bug fixing of set rundown

the usual

[devout nimbus]

mm

So its not the rundown i need to worry about its more so the bugs that have existed since forever not being fixed

[neon gust]

eehh yeah pretty much

good thing its that no checkpoints or dimensions

so alt rundowns are pretty much bug free

[silver fable]

still think they were probably putting all the new people on external contract work to pay the bills

(and most of the original staff)

[worn saddle]

That shit destroyed what was supposed to be our first R7E1 clear

[honest lion]

For R7C3 main uplink, is there only going to be 6 Charger spawning in total?

[dry pumice]

I believe so, yes.

After that it's all quiet.

[honest lion]

Gotcha

[tardy ingot]

Imagine if it spawned a full wave

[latent obsidian]

It should

[dry pumice]

That would be... Actually unbeatable.

[latent obsidian]

If they make you fight a blood door why not a wave of chargers too

[tardy ingot]

tbf this is easily doable with a single mine

[latent obsidian]

if you find one

[dry pumice]

I was about to say

[latent obsidian]

which I don't believe is guranteed

[tardy ingot]

pretty high chance, but true

also chargers > smalls/hybrids

imo

hybrids are pretty tame to melee

[neon gust]

they spam them so much it became the norm

wich is kinda sad

[fierce nebula]

^^^

[lunar rain]

Any tips for the r7c3 blood door?

[craggy pier]

which one lol

I'm gonna assume you mean the first one

maybe you get lucky and find an explosive mine which you can put on the blood door or bait enemies to another door for more kills. Otherwise put a couple cfoam mines facing that door and then bonk the enemies

[dry pumice]

Cfoam mines everywhere.
Pray for an explosive one.
Aim for the head.

[silver fable]

If you mean the first one, use the large door between 160b and 160c to bank them up behind. (Make sure the other two doors linking 160b and 160c are closed.)

You can use an explosive mine on the door to wipe the enemies if you find one, otherwise put a good amount of cfoam tripmines on the door instead.

If you mean the overload blood door, point some sentries towards the door to 328c for cover before pulling, then pull and shoot. HEL weaponry is gross here if you lure them north along the upper walkway.

[lunar rain]

Just the first blood door for main

So in general just place a lot of sea foam mines

[icy cave]

yep

[fallen dirge]

guys I just started playing and completed training few min ago. How do I proceed now?

[ocean spindle]

helloo
u can proceed to play missions now! either if u wanna join someone else doing the first level [Rundown 1 level A1] or host a lobby, the instructions are in #how-to-matchmake

just some advice when going to play with other funky people
ask to not be carried, and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur vc

[low crest]

I just started GTFO too, can I join missions other than R1A1 or do I need to complete that first? The Rundown selection screen shows the other maps as locked, is that just for matchmaking or joining others as well? ty

[solemn flint]

you can do any a1 mission, but it is recommend to do alt r1a1 first bc it is a level with a bit of alot of thing with not alot of difficulty to complete

and currently we have alt r1, alt r2, alt r3, r7 avalable to play, more rundown will be release later on in the year

[ocean spindle]

yeah the grey circles that dont appear unlocked is cause
they arent out yet

[solemn flint]

and also dont use the matchmaking stytem, that thing is bad. Use the lfg channel

[ocean spindle]

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[ocean spindle]

just some advice
ask to not be carried, be sure to do the tutorial first [Training]
and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur vc

[low crest]

thanks y'all! I've done the training and have a basic grasp of the mechanics and the terminals etc, I've tried doing the first rundown with the bots but we keep getting completely cooked. Wasn't sure if others would be down to do the first alt rundown but I'll give it a shot in the lfg channel. ty!

[ocean spindle]

yeah bots r ok but they just need to be
learnt

and its a pain when sneakin cause the only help with awoken enemies and a mess

[dry pumice]

Bots will get ya through As and Bs.
Cs will be problematic.
And Ds will be hell.
Don't even get me started on Es.

[ocean spindle]

funnily enough ive heard people say bots arent that bad on r2e1 but i have no idea

but its enough proof im gonna say thats false

cause u dont need to test it u just need to trust blidnly

[odd pivot]

bots are pretty good for most of the levels except the one with error alarm. You just have to take it slow whenever clearing room and they do help out with giant enemies and grouped up Strikers.

[ocean spindle]

no they r ok for those too

[odd pivot]

yeah but it's a bit frustrating with the commands cause they seems to prioritize the wave

[icy cave]

its only the last levels you can't do with bots. the rest is fine

[ocean spindle]

ah yeah true they dont pick up stuff in combat that can be a bit

annoyin

but its still possible n stuff

[odd pivot]

yeah the only level I'm currently stuck on is R2C2 cause they won't pick up stuff

[icy cave]

R2C2 is doable. R7E1 is impossible and R7D1 is insane RNG. the rest currently ingame is fine (R2E1 will be hell tho). But when R4 and R5 come out I think R4E1 will be added to impossible levels with 3 bots

[odd pivot]

I played R7D1 with multiple teams and still haven't beat it like the X alarm just brutal

I think for bots any level where you have to quickly barricade a door can be tricky cause they sometimes just run back and through the door

[icy cave]

my comment is taking 3 bots into account. with a team R7D1 is ez pz. R7E1 is kinda rng but doable.

[jagged shore]

My dude they just said they've tried it with teams and haven't yet lol
Immediately then saying it's ezpz is kinda messed up :p

[ocean spindle]

ah yeah right u mean with bots- BUT WITH A TEAM IS SO EAAAASY

[icy cave]

Everyone has their own experience no ?

I don't see the problem

[jagged shore]

Sure, but the way you said it didn't seem very personal
Just "level is easy with people"

[ocean spindle]

yes but like we talkin about bots

[odd pivot]

:p it really depends on the team at the end of the day

[icy cave]

nah with my people

[ocean spindle]

yeah a team of people that play
minecraft would be

funky

[jagged shore]

Ooc which one are you guys doing?

[odd pivot]

I haven't done R7 in a while but I used to play with random

[jagged shore]

? I'm confused by this answer lmao
I was wondering which class x

[ocean spindle]

lemme guess what happens next

[odd pivot]

R7D1 with the Chargers

[jagged shore]

Okay the charger class x lmao

[ocean spindle]

ah ok i was guessin a 'THERES TWO?!' kind of answer but

:[

[jagged shore]

Was just pure curious if it was that or the shadow lol

[jagged shore]

That would've been fun lol

[hardy grotto]

A lot of gtfo chatters need to fuel their ego somehow, you get used to it after a while lmao

[sturdy glen]

so true

as one of my friends says, everyone's just waiting for their time to tell their "hot take"

[past mesa]

True but other point this game is baby game for babies

[jovial pasture]

i'm waiting for say 'i'm new here'

'first time in gtfo'

[neon gust]

Whatchu guys talking about

[turbid horizon]

hot takes

[dry pumice]

Amogus

[past mesa]

Do you have any hot takes mr dragon sir

[dry pumice]

*tun Tun TUn TUN tun. Tutudun. *

[neon gust]

People who complain about pr and bullpup are the people who cannot even use it correctly and lack aim

[past mesa]

how did you know about my skill issue

[neon gust]

screech from kitchen nightmares plays

Probably the most overused sound effect of all time

[dry pumice]

Reloads of >2s do not belong in main

[weary mesa]

Weapons are slowly getting closer to the power of R4 Hel Revo

[turbid horizon]

bruh I had no clue where that was froom

[neon gust]

Never had an issue in the 3 years ive been using it

[turbid horizon]

ty dragon

[neon gust]

Next video its gonna be a drama fueled raction vid of rayalot ranking weapons

Tune in 2 weeks

[past mesa]

Please

I need this

[icy cave]

you said it !

no backsies

[weary mesa]

Tier list review when

[jagged shore]

I need more black dragon GTFO vids in general

[neon gust]

I need jesus

[past mesa]

Can you do a voice line tier list

[hardy grotto]

dauda voice lines win everytime

hes so iconic

[past mesa]

hands off cocks though

[turbid horizon]

I am ready

[neon gust]

I will commit not alive

If i hear dauda bio lines

[weary mesa]

Dauda can't say thank you though

[turbid horizon]

rank woods voice lines

the forbidden bot woods lines

[hardy grotto]

he also doesnt say please

hes kinda rude tbh

but like

this place is big is so iconic