#gtfo-related-questions

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tranquil arch
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Alpha vid

tardy ingot
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or just use the deac alarms

or just have hel gun with 2 magazines musicmommyOMEGALUL

tranquil arch
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Hel gun still op then

latent obsidian
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deac alarms cancels queued scout waves?

inner field
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r6d2 gaming wicked

tranquil arch
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I haven't touched it yet

tardy ingot
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scouts still have to have enough awake slots open to spawn

tardy ingot
latent obsidian
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wtf

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okay

tranquil arch
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Yes, it cancels all

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It's epic big funny

latent obsidian
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I knew you could cancel other alarms with it but scout waves, rofl

tranquil arch
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I guess since the code is just set to cancel every active event

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And not target them on a bias.

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So according to alpha vid my understanding is correct no?

latent obsidian
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I'm not gonna watch 14 minutes, what part does he say what you said?

tranquil arch
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He says that there is max 18 enemies on a regular alarm wave

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When 9 dies, the timer to spawn more starts

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And he also states the "value" of each enemy spawn

vital sierra
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scout wave will override that

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since it's a different wave vs alarm wave

tranquil arch
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Right, but that wasn't my point

vital sierra
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ok

tranquil arch
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My point was just regular waves

dry pumice
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Cringe gun gtfo_badge_4

tranquil arch
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They only spawn more when half existing wave dies no?

vital sierra
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ye

tranquil arch
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Other guy said they spawn regardless.

vital sierra
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if you kill like 7 or 8, the wave stay like that forever

tranquil arch
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Yeah I thought so.

latent obsidian
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but two waves spawn before this applies?

vital sierra
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which is still 9 - 10 enemies following you around

tranquil arch
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A max of 18 enemies spawn

vital sierra
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seconds wave become 22 - 23 enemies

tranquil arch
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Before it applies

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Across however many waves

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At least for a regular alarm

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Given that each wave would have leftovers

craggy pier
tranquil arch
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Wouldn't that cause the number of enemies to ramp until they cap out then

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Until you clear up leftovers anyway

lunar rain
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What level in r 3 has a ||mother|| I want to introduce my friends to it and see their reaction

tranquil arch
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B2

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Near end

dry pumice
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Also D1

tranquil arch
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That has big momma

dry pumice
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B2?... Weird, I can't fuckin remember.

tranquil arch
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Regular mom in B2 yeah

tardy ingot
tranquil arch
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Yes, both

dry pumice
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That level was cursed

tranquil arch
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But I assumed his group who had never fought one

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Doesn't wanna go straight to D1

dry pumice
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That was a B? Didn't feel like a B

tranquil arch
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It was indeed a B

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It's just cause so few missions are in R3

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Feels off kilter

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Only thing the alarm video doesn't cover is the room sized S1 scam and moving scans added since then.

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But one can assume they follow similar rules to the others.

tardy ingot
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didnt fully check

but error alarms have multiple different values

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diminished alarms

tranquil arch
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It's weird that normal alarm is so distinctly different from others with the initial 18

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Yes, they vary by level for cap and time when it comes to error.

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Well, cap as in number spawned per time passed. Total cap for the error is still a full value of 25.

latent obsidian
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Not sure if Alpha means it when he says "Up to 18 points of enemies"?

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Would imply that sometimes it could spawn a slightly lower number

tardy ingot
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from time to time

tranquil arch
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Basically he means the first wave spawns up to 18 points.

latent obsidian
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okay but "up to"

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so it might spawn 17?

tranquil arch
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But then the following wave will be 25

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Once first dies

latent obsidian
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and if it were to spawn 17 does that not change the number that need to die going forwards

tranquil arch
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The video explains better

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But video seems to imply first wave will always be a value of 18

latent obsidian
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That makes more sense

tranquil arch
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Enemies have differing values, so hard to say enemy amount per se

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But indeed, if you don't kill the initial 9 and just stack them the second wave can't spawn.

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So you could deliberately kill 7 or 8 and train them basically

latent obsidian
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I just coulda sworn there were times we'd cfoam a door for the first wave and then a second wave would hit a different door from another direction

tranquil arch
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On a normal alarm though?

latent obsidian
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yeah

tranquil arch
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Hmmm

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I would like more recent testing tbh

latent obsidian
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I could be wrong

tranquil arch
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The alpha video is late r4 when he made it iirc

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It's also possible you didn't hear a new wave but the ai spreading itself then changing back to a main door of choice.

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Sometimes the wave targets a different door depending on the players positions within the room.

latent obsidian
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Hmm, I've not gone out of my way to test this stuff enough, I'm just going off of vibes

tranquil arch
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I forgot to mention the specifics of the spawn covered in the video btw

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It takes about 28 seconds after a value of 9 has died to spawn the next wave

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If the full 18 value dies, it spawns within 5 seconds

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So blitzing waves can be detrimental sometimes.

tardy ingot
tranquil arch
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Second wave has the new cap of 25

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Yeah, sometimes they spawn in two different zones with same wave

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It's jank

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I assume the enemy values haven't changed...but it would be nice to test everything else again.

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I am way too lazy tho

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The real takeaway from all of this is that surge alarms continue to be the easiest way to artificially ramp level difficulty and will always be painful.

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Thanks for coming to my ted talk

tardy ingot
tranquil arch
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I was kidding c:

lunar rain
dry pumice
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Goodman

lunar rain
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Their first reaction to a tank was funny r7d1

dry pumice
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Technically speaking that's not even a tank since you know... They got dem ballz

fierce nebula
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I just punch the balls

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they moan but it gets the job done

lunar rain
dry pumice
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Oh, my bad, I confused D1 with E1

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I forgot E exists...

fierce nebula
icy cave
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granted D1 was a glorified C tier

fierce nebula
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oh great I summoned people that enjoy R6

ocean spindle
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yes

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u fucked up

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r6 god

dry pumice
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I don't know, that server room alarm doesn't strike as a C level alarm. That shit was horrible, i'm still surprised i beat in on first try

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Something something cfoam up your server passages

icy cave
tardy ingot
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reactor skip was a challenge tbf

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but that was smth most people didnt do

icy cave
minor fractal
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I'm still not sure what needed to be said to some R6 players.

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So many people with that "we're able to handle it, we just needed more attempts" mentality.

dry pumice
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The dark souls mentality - you just keep trying until you memorise the sleeper attack patterns PirateSimon

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Works better on short segments too than the whole 60 minute run

icy cave
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But more the folks willing to bash their heads on a checkpoint for 8 hours straight

dry pumice
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Some people just can't throw in the towel

eternal bridge
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Just like Skyrim. You spent a lot of time dealing with a monster that has far higher level than you

minor fractal
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You had people that apparently thought they were already "there," they just needed to grind it a little more.

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Heard about it a few times for D1, and I most remember the OP for a checkpoint thread on Reddit talking about C1 that way.

dry pumice
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As long as they have fun, but what is fun at that point...

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What is their plan of actions, what is it they expect to go differently.

minor fractal
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Mfer, if you have 10+ attempts at the T-scan, you're not handling the content very well.

dry pumice
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Shoot 10% better? If anything my aim goes down with long sessions because of headache and burn out.

tardy ingot
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i mean on one side it was kinda entertaining to see people who thought like that

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but it was also very painful

dry pumice
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1st run is the test run where you figure out what's gonna happen, 2nd run is adaptation run where you try to develop counter strategy, 3rd run is the internalisation run - the polish and improvement from here are basically close to 0.

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Either you get it then, or there's a deep issue with something else besides basic enemy engagement. Like improper weapons or 1 magazine too few...

tardy ingot
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you can definetly still improve after that

but most of that will be figuring out minor things, personal mechanics (usually a slow burner) or trying out crazy stuff (which many didnt do)

dry pumice
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8 shotguns against Kraken 😭

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It's gonna happen

craggy pier
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I think something to keep in mind is that people only learn if they want to

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That and a lot of players in R6 just didn't understand what the game was about when they bought it

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They just saw the trailer, people shooting and believe it to be a horde shooter

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Just how many people threw in the towel without actively asking for advice? probably a lot

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Then there's people learning the wrong things but that's another story

icy cave
fresh steeple
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is there any way to calculate distance in gtfo? I don't want a gun to be useless on a certain level because of damage falloff

civic wave
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I guess you can use heavy objects/sentries/item pings

icy cave
ocean spindle
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its usually intuitive

civic wave
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and yeah ^^

fierce nebula
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you'd have to fail pretty hard to make damage fall off an actual issue

tardy ingot
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yeah the worst thing that ever happened fall off wise was r6d1 if you had chosen double shotguns

icy cave
minor fractal
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I mean, falloff can be a pretty significant limitation.

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Just, it's usually more-so an issue of a lack of certain roles in the team comp.

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4 combat shotguns is a lot different than 3 combat shotguns and 1 sniper or choke mod.

tardy ingot
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yea
its noticeable on reactors for example when a hybrid shows up

ocean spindle
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but its

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easily measurable

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u dont need to calculate

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just use the common sense

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and dont combat shotgun a hybrid 80 meters away

dry pumice
fresh steeple
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yeah i think reactors are the only major damage falloff case

mossy aurora
next lagoon
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bro what is up with chargers, snatchers, and infected chickens spawning and respawning on r2a1?

sturdy glen
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you have a hacker in your lobby

jagged shore
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i feel like that stuff is talked about enough that people should be able to pick up on it by now lol but idk

ocean spindle
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some people- this might sound very weird but
some people
dont read the chats and only come in to play

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WEIRD

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ik

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but

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still

ocean spindle
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send all the details possible

dawn vault
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So if I put a sniper sentry in a room and close the door with the sniper sentry in it and it snipes an enemy in one go, will it alert the room since I'm in another room?

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This question can also work with mines too

ocean spindle
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no, if the doors closed it wont alert anythin
the mine might blow up the door if i touches it tho
which in that case yeah
but a sentry behind the door closed? nope

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u could have a person shootin there too

dawn vault
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Thank you

sturdy glen
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theres definitely been a lot more instances of it recently though

next lagoon
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i dont really read chat all that often tbh. didnt realize it was possible

vital sierra
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you're going see this happen on most modern game nowadays

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most game these days when release will be datamined to the core

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and these thing will happen one way or the other

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so it's best to just play with friend

topaz anvil
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I played with someone earlier and i was shrunk to the size of an ant:(

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Truly anything can happen

vital sierra
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imagine the devs really release the mono build

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we have cool mods

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but if there is 1 guy who's like

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"imma make a mod that crash everyone like in GTA V"

topaz anvil
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There's no safeguards or anticheats so we constantly live in fear

ocean spindle
topaz anvil
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Ok but hear me out, a mod that teleports you a set amount in the direction you are looking. No more alarm doors :^)

ocean spindle
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it sounds easier to have a mod that disables every alarm

topaz anvil
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Second best speedrun strat behind cheating
I MEAN WARDENMAPPER SORRY

ocean spindle
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ah yeah- the- cutting torch

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of course :]

topaz anvil
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Wardenmapper needs to be banned from speedruns

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Thoughts?

ocean spindle
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the mapper in the old trailer looked good

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but a bit unuseful

topaz anvil
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You clearly do not know what wardenmapper is

ocean spindle
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nope

topaz anvil
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It's an external program that tells you exactly where key items are

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As you drop into a level

ocean spindle
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ah the thing everyone talks about

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yeah idc

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i dont do speedruns

topaz anvil
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Neither but it's still embarrassing that it's allowed

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It's literally cheating

sturdy glen
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dont start this conversation again

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please

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I need my last few braincells

ocean spindle
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yeah not doin this

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fuck this

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fuck this all

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dont write

topaz anvil
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No I'm here for violence against the speedrunning community

ocean spindle
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stop

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stop writin

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im gonna slap u

sturdy glen
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based but also not

ocean spindle
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:[

topaz anvil
ocean spindle
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take 40% of ur health?

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u must not play gtfo well

topaz anvil
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True, accidentally woke a giant charger near a charger scout

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We wiped

ocean spindle
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see

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nothin good comes from slaps

topaz anvil
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Counter point, i couldn't get to the giant charger in time, was too smol

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If i was larger i could run faster and stagger the gc

ocean spindle
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thats nothin to do with the slap

topaz anvil
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It tongued me to death

ocean spindle
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skapped u with the tongue

topaz anvil
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Not a fan of wet contact

ocean spindle
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so u dont like slaps ok

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then stop or ill slap

topaz anvil
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Do it coward

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No balls

ocean spindle
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aight bein carried by a pidgeon to travel to ur house

topaz anvil
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Bet

solemn flint
stone vale
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i cant see the join via clipboard is there a way to enter it manually?

ocean spindle
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by addin em to steam and joinin through steam invite system

vital sierra
stone vale
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yeah ok

vital sierra
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so isn't that the same as cheating?

ocean spindle
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sometimes key spawns in different

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zones

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thats what

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they referrin to

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but

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lets not have this convo :]

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lets talk gtfo sleepers

vital sierra
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why not

ocean spindle
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cause people had it so many times

topaz anvil
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You see if i was in the speedrun server i would discuss it there but it's almost as dead as my hc

vital sierra
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that's basically said video guide is cheating because it give you the same thing

ocean spindle
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u

sturdy glen
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the fun happens here now yeah cuz the funny ppl got banned

topaz anvil
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I have that channel muted so i forgor it existed

ocean spindle
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u can search it there probably

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but lets not clog this channel

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this is for gtfo related questions

topaz anvil
ocean spindle
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i dont think thats how
ah yeah sure

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but we arent there

topaz anvil
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I'm not there mentally

ocean spindle
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nor physically

neon gust
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I liked it more when speedrunning was simpler

vital sierra
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since people will datamine, get all the info of all rng

neon gust
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why (this is a GTFO RELATED QUESTION)

vital sierra
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and then press restart until they get the correct rng

ocean spindle
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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very gtfo questions

topaz anvil
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Why does the speedrun category have "lawless"

neon gust
vital sierra
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ye

ocean spindle
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STILL A QUESTION

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QUICK

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ADD A ?

vital sierra
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why is gtfo be different then?

topaz anvil
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Why is gtfo

ocean spindle
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.t gtfo

uneven gulchBOT
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The game is called GTFO and it doesn't stand for "Get The Fuck Out" but rather the feeling you have that you want to complete The Warden's objective and GTFO.

ocean spindle
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thats the answer :]

topaz anvil
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That's not why tho

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That's what

neon gust
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what is STRIKER_BOSS suppose to be and why is it broken?

topaz anvil
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What is bullrush and why is he rushing me

vital sierra
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oh man

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asking question and going off?

sturdy glen
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when he rushing my bull but im me

topaz anvil
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Why is my favourite anime cat girl virtual streamer not playing the hit game gtfo

neon gust
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Why the punching animation still the most annoying thing in this game ?

ocean spindle
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this is a rant now i guess

topaz anvil
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Nah the punching animation leads to some very interesting visuals

neon gust
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no

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this is a GTFO RELATED QUESTION

ocean spindle
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gtfo relates rant questions

neon gust
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Added the ? at the end

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now truly a gtfo related quesiton

topaz anvil
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Punching is still the most annoying animation because the devs have yet to find a more annoying animation to replace it

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Hope this helped

ocean spindle
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ok now genq why is it annoyin

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cause go through materials?

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or just

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cause of the movements

neon gust
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client side punching was always super caca

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thats where thjey start clipping trough things

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also punching range varies a lot depending on how your ping is

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more apparent on big chargers

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getting punch from like 9 meters kekw

topaz anvil
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Ok but the long range punching is funny as fuck some times, had a floating giant charger over like a 6 metre drop just vibing while he completely missed everyone

arctic marten
craggy pier
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certified captin alpha moment

vital sierra
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a tool that tell you, "hey, your key don't spawn here"

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instead of spending time going there and restart

arctic marten
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do you believe that memorizing the locations of key spawns is the same as knowing where the key is?

vital sierra
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ye?

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since you know the key is there

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you just restart until the key is there

arctic marten
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if this was your original point, you did a terrible job of relaying that

vital sierra
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everyone will just relay it to a different thing anyway

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i ask them and they literally ask something else instead

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"let's have a conversation"

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"nope"

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so the convo stay there

arctic marten
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this was not even english, brother

vital sierra
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literally like this

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you are talking to me about that convo

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and now let's talk about hamburger

arctic marten
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what are you talking about

vital sierra
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how can i relay what i want to say

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when they just gonna derail

arctic marten
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are you trying to say that people misinterpret you, or that people change the subject on you

vital sierra
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if this was your original point, you did a terrible job of relaying that

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i don't even have a chance to do that

arctic marten
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what

vital sierra
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so, why bother

arctic marten
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because in your initial statement, you were not clear that you thought "knowing where the key can spawn" was similar to "knowing where the key is", the only difference being time. I think this is what you meant, but the way you phrased it, the time difference was not clear and you seemed out of touch, which is why I called you out on it. Now its clarified, so all is good

vital sierra
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oh, this guy write a wall of text

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let me change the subject to

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Guys, did they change R7D2?

arctic marten
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idk why you're passive-aggressively trying to prove a point that I already understand, and agree with you on but ok

vital sierra
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do you feel annoyed

arctic marten
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not really, no

vital sierra
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because it feel like you do

arctic marten
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im more confused

vital sierra
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because i didn't write passive-aggressive text

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it's an example

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of how that convo happen

arctic marten
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bro you gotta clarify that you are giving an example

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otherwise it just looks like you're saying it yourself

vital sierra
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but hey, that's how it went

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everytime

arctic marten
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I see that, and I agree that people shouldn't change the topic mid conversation

past mesa
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Lets have the seeding conversation again

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!!!!!!!!!

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I am ready for round two

arctic marten
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hell yeah

past mesa
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See mountain freeze jump man be on board

upper ginkgo
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reading log bad

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reading log take no skill

past mesa
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I couldn’t do it in the time it took to load in levels

upper ginkgo
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run to key every run take skill

past mesa
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Nothing take skill

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Gtfo is walking sim

arctic marten
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basically

past mesa
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And I walk the fastest

arctic marten
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i bhop faster than u

past mesa
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Banned

arctic marten
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only if you can catch me

past mesa
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Shit I never thought of that

upper ginkgo
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can i get today's dose of bullpup slander

arctic marten
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bullpup sucks ass keep coping

past mesa
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Honestly I now agreed with you but I have set my sights on a new goal

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Making worse pubs

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!!! novel idea making the pub experience worse for vets will increase the enjoyment we have

arctic marten
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how

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and why

past mesa
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Making pubs value the best load out bullpup PR is first goal

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Then have them fast stealth incorrectly

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And all used warden mapper

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The perfect new pub army is coming *****

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Idk it is more entertaining to play gtfo as a Marco game about miss information

arctic marten
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who is this miss information

past mesa
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Me I am the villain

craggy pier
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bullpup is the best gun wdym

arctic marten
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also pubs will never be able to install warden mapper

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shit requires like 3 different python libraries

past mesa
arctic marten
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and you have to run it inside vs code?

past mesa
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On how to use it

arctic marten
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like who wrote this shit?

past mesa
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R2 you should have seen v.5

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It was so much worse

arctic marten
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i dont even want to

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it is an insulting piece of software

past mesa
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At one point we had to run the program at the start of the minute

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Else it would break

arctic marten
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just adding more proof to my theory that it was written by actual gtfo devs

past mesa
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I mean we did use json

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I love data entry

arctic marten
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everyone uses json

past mesa
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Yeah but I learned json from gtfo

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So I have more misinformation to spread

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But it isn’t the worst thing I ever wrote

arctic marten
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YOU wrote it?

past mesa
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No sorry watched people write

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Archie wrote it

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Mostly

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And vox

arctic marten
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tell archie to be ashamed

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and vox

past mesa
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@upper ginkgo

craggy pier
past mesa
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My bhop script

upper ginkgo
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I wrote it in 15 minutes 😭

past mesa
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Is so much worse

arctic marten
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how do you mess up a bhop script

past mesa
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Honestly I don’t know

arctic marten
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you literally wrote it

past mesa
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Yeah I just thought spamming space would work

arctic marten
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it does

past mesa
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Welp

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Idk what I did wrong then

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I think it is my computer r2 do you want to know a fun fact about my thing

upper ginkgo
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say no

past mesa
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No say yes it is very funny

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Not cursed

arctic marten
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no i dont want to hear about your "thing", thats gross

past mesa
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It is my computer issue

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!!!

arctic marten
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uh-huh

past mesa
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I can’t open any internet browser

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It auto crashes

arctic marten
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i dont even know where to start with that

past mesa
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I reset every thing to factory defaults got a new account

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Still doesn’t work

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I got a new hard drive still doesn’t work

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Like man

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Shit is fucked

arctic marten
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malware moment

past mesa
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It has to be

arctic marten
past mesa
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Wait how do you know my history

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!!!!

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Are you the hacker 0.0

arctic marten
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swimsuit dlc is just a week away

past mesa
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Can you believe it guys

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Just a week away

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Okay but thanks for coming to my Ted talk

arctic marten
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i deeply regret it

past mesa
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No you love me

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Bettering the community one set of miss information at a time

arctic marten
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dont steal my job or my jokes

past mesa
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Dw I am not trying for your job

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Roberts tho

arctic marten
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why would you want to be robert

past mesa
#

Idk

#

Sometimes I just want to be the villain

past mesa
#

Voxy if I make it happen you become Rick !!!!

arctic marten
#

is cyberheist out yet

upper ginkgo
#

cyberheist addresses that issue

arctic marten
#

oh ok

craggy pier
#

cyberheist seeded that

past mesa
#

I have already pre order 10 chambers new game

#

Have 59 dollars on my desk ready to spend

craggy pier
#

I'll preorder cyberheist when every last major bug in gtfo gets fixed

#

(so never)

past mesa
#

R8

craggy pier
#

R8 will cure cancer

past mesa
#

Yup

jagged shore
#

what's the primary list of "major bugs"
sheer curiosity
i assume checkpoint bug is one

past mesa
#

Scout scream freeze

#

The doors not being solid

arctic marten
past mesa
#

Snatchers

#

400

jagged shore
past mesa
#

You have to pre order

craggy pier
#

I don't have a list but a few examples would be spitter sound bug crashes, softlocks (including checkpoint cell), perma snatched, black square enveloping screen, D1 snatchers, scout scream freeze

upper ginkgo
#

there are no bugs in gtfo there are no bugs in gtfo there are no bugs in gtfo

craggy pier
#

🥹

past mesa
craggy pier
#

I havent heard of that, sounds like fun

past mesa
#

Mr bread gets it

craggy pier
#

oh how couldi forget the e1 cscout bug

past mesa
#

Shooter

#

Bug

#

As well

arctic marten
#

pierce is bugged atm, but that one might actually get fixed

craggy pier
#

how so?

arctic marten
#

you mean how is it bugged?

craggy pier
#

yes

arctic marten
#

pierce can hit the same enemy multiple times, reducing your pierces without dealing extra damage

#

thats why hel rifle only pierces 3 giants on a good day

craggy pier
#

🥹

arctic marten
#

pierce is also capped at 5, so you can literally never get the hel rifle's sixth pierce

stone dirge
#

I mean u can if u fire a 2nd shot after everything dies

devout nimbus
#

Can you body block projectiles not aimed at you, like if my teammate is reviving another and their is a hybrid attacking them, can I tank the projectiles?

past mesa
#

Yes

noble sierra
#

You can let the one you're reviving block projectiles as well

stone dirge
#

Be a chad and make the hybrid tank the projectiles itself Chad

west latch
#

Can you switch the server regions you wanna play in?

ashen frigate
#

The game is peer to peer

#

If you want to switch region, switch host (preferably to one close enough to you)

honest lion
#

How much C-Foam does it take to stun the mother?

#

also which guns would be good for R1B2

ocean spindle
#

cfoam ik a nade can, but i dont think a full charge has enough but i could be wrong

civic wave
ocean spindle
#

also for r1b2
i guess if u are really nice at headshots, well u and ur team, u can have something like revolvers, pistols, hel revo, guns that are very precision based and can oneshot shooters

ocean spindle
civic wave
#

I want to say it takes over 1.5 full charges to foam from a previous experience but that measurement was not scientific at all

ocean spindle
#

i just wouldnt recommend like a sniper or somethin cause there arent a lot of uses for it

honest lion
#

I tried 2 full charge and she didn't get stunned so I was confused

ocean spindle
#

yeah the thing is a cfoam nade has more thatn a full charge of the gun

#

so

#

thats why ksmdk

honest lion
#

If I don't reapply it fast enough, it will expire right?

#

is that why she didn't get stunned?

ocean spindle
#

like if shes already cfoamed and u stack it?

#

like keep shootin?

honest lion
ocean spindle
#

ahhhh
no i do think it- the way that foam works as i understand it is, an enemy has a certain amount of blobs to touch for example, and if its 5 and it has three already, then it only needs two at any moment to freeze

#

u can try it by like shootin a bit on a sleeper
clear the rest of the room
and then comin back to it and spray it a bit

honest lion
#

Should I use the burst rifle or the shotgun against her?

ocean spindle
#

well the rifle is kinda a headshot weapon, and shotguns are more bodyshots and raw damage
so yeah no matter the shotgun u talkin about its prob better to use that against precision weapons

#

theres some exceptions like sniper that i think can eliminate a full tumor in oneshot

#

but usually things like the combat or the pump have more damage in a single mag

#

so if u wanna rush normally those are the ones to go to

honest lion
#

Gotcha

latent obsidian
#

burst cannon is very very good against her too

ocean spindle
#

true

#

its a lot of damage in those 20 bullets

honest lion
#

that's 400 dmg total I think so it should be pretty good

weary mesa
#

Regular shotgun can one cycle her

honest lion
#

I'll probably run regular Shotgun and my friend will run hel shotgun for the babies

#

I usually play with 1 friend and 2 bots so the bots are kinda goofy

ocean spindle
#

thats a nice strat :]
hel shottie destroys so bad i love it

honest lion
#

Also, what's with the class V alarm at the start? The room have 2 cells but we didn't do it yet cuzz we got clapped by mother

#

I'm not sure what those cells are for

tardy ingot
#

its a choice

bold atlas
#

I noticed the shotgun sentry changed in the patch notes, is it more viable now?

honest lion
#

Does sniper deal 400 damage to the tumors? Since it's 40x2x5

ocean spindle
bold atlas
ocean spindle
#

ah well
its a bit more open now but yeah burst and sniper keep bein at the top

bold atlas
#

Aight thank you

fierce nebula
ocean spindle
#

tumors dont count

honest lion
#

Oh

arctic marten
#

??

#

im pretty sure tumors count

honest lion
#

So it's just 40x5?

weary mesa
#

It does 400

#

That’s why it one shots tumors

ocean spindle
#

ah

#

then im wrong

arctic marten
#

thats just its precision multiplier

ocean spindle
#

do ur homework on guns kids

tardy ingot
honest lion
#

So it does right? I wanna make sure

tardy ingot
tardy ingot
weary mesa
#

I mean any tumor

honest lion
#

Ohhhhh

tardy ingot
weary mesa
#

It loses a lot on tank and regular mom

honest lion
#

Since her tumor is 126 HP, the sniper is only gonna deal that much to them

weary mesa
#

Yes I forget if the remaining damage is done with armor multi applied or not

honest lion
#

I never fought tanks on mother yet so I don't know how they take damage

weary mesa
#

Still would deal negligible damage anyways

arctic marten
#

armor multi isnt even taken into account when shooting tumors

weary mesa
#

So the extra damage is just eaten then

arctic marten
#

I dont remember exactly how it works, but as client, at least shotguns can get overflow damage

#

dunno how that affects sniper

honest lion
#

My brain is expanding

waxen jetty
#

LOL

lusty bramble
#

Not the armor multi shit again

weary mesa
#

Where’s badger to help me remember

latent obsidian
#

He's probably foaming at the mouth somewhere watching this discussion

lusty bramble
#

Overflow damage only exists on client as they're able to hit a tumor multiple times before latency actually registers it as broken

#

Sniper wouldn't do this since it's a single instance of damage

#

If a tumor is supposed to break on 2 hits of damage, it will break on the 2 hits by a host and only deal the tumors health

#

Only difference is the client is able to hit the tumor 3 or more times before the tumor actually registers as broken

#

Armor multi strictly affects any hit that isn't on the tumors

#

It completely nullifies the damage with a extremely low multiplier

icy cave
latent obsidian
#

how scary

honest lion
lusty bramble
#

Correct

vague bridge
#

speaking of big momma

#

are baby strikers the purple things writhing on the wall tumors

sharp grove
#

So, a question about a map.
We got two power cells, then had to go down into a room filled with fog that never goes away and you constantly get infection rate
What to do in that situation?

ocean spindle
#

its
hard to know cause it could be different solutions depending on the map

sharp grove
#

Was alteration 3~something. I wasn't the one hosting and didn't check

#

So we kinda went down a ladder, to a door and from the moment you go down just full fog

#

And keeps going after that door and other doors

#

Had no fog repellers

ocean spindle
#

alteration
...
wasnt that a mod

sharp grove
#

Not a mod 😄 Asked friend he said "Alteration 3 something" we got no mods

ocean spindle
#

i guess ALT rundown 3

sharp grove
#

Probably, yea

ocean spindle
#

well im not super far into it, but the one level that has fog, spoilers ahead from those that havent played it, ||R3B2, if its the one i think with the super big room, two alarms at the sides and powercells in them, there a fog turbine in the beginning room, u just need to ping it, or well, i at least found it in the beginning||

sharp grove
#

Oh 😄

#

That makes sense

icy cave
sharp grove
#

We plugged two in and it didn't do anything, but we did it in the middle . Not sure if it was same as the gen cluster you mean

icy cave
sharp grove
#

Aha

icy cave
#

So either you missed a blood door. OR you missed the cell in the very first zone

sharp grove
#

Yea, can be that

icy cave
#

In any case: terminals people ! use them

sharp grove
#

Can you ping the power cells?

#

We're very new, and thought you couldn't as there wasn't a specific number to them 😄

icy cave
icy cave
#

list cell and you'll see

icy cave
sharp grove
#

Yea, we gotten to R3 , but guess we somehow missed how to ping such things

icy cave
#

well damn

sharp grove
#

We've been pinging resources, keys, HSU, but not cells 😄

tardy ingot
#

even r2d1 and e1 o.O ?

icy cave
#

R2D1 and E1 yeah was about to say

#

Like you did it without pinging cells?

sharp grove
#

Think just R(number) not E , or d

#

I believe 😄

#

Me and others just join, another starts

icy cave
sharp grove
#

Should probably 😄

#

Thanks for the tips!

icy cave
wooden loom
#

i just started playing, does it matter what rundown i select

#

do they go through order of difficulty?

#

i have 1,2,3 and 7 unlocked

dry pumice
wooden loom
#

ok

#

will the rundowns that are available be different at all?

dry pumice
#

Specify?

wooden loom
#

like, next month for example will rundown 1 and 2 be replaced with 5 and 6 for example

#

i played a free trial of GTFO a few months ago and i think back then i only remember there being a single rundown

dry pumice
#

Ah, no. They dropped that whole FOMO thing.

#

They facelift old rundowns and re-release them back. For good.

wooden loom
#

oh i see

#

thats nice

dry pumice
#

Hence why they are called alt.

#

There is also lore reason for that, but thats a whole pool of worms.

icy cave
wooden loom
#

alright

#

thanks

#

i will probably try going through them in order anyway though

icy cave
# wooden loom thanks

But you are probably best off goin in order. As that way the game introduces new stuff at a steady pace.

wooden loom
#

yea

icy cave
#

If you would do R7 first and then go back to R1 you would be bored out of your mind probably

icy cave
wooden loom
#

thanks

#

i have heard this game is hard to beat

#

im up for the challenge though

icy cave
wooden loom
#

i see

icy cave
#

well I mean you can solo some but you'll get hardstuck at some point

ocean spindle
wooden loom
#

are there bots too, not that i will probably use them much

ocean spindle
#

ah yeah

#

they r useful but a bit complicated to manage

wooden loom
#

alright

ocean spindle
#

but if u need to fill in a space

#

they nice

#

:]

icy cave
ocean spindle
#

but not in time :]

#

i was already writin

icy cave
ocean spindle
#

im not a coward

#

once im commited i never delete

latent obsidian
#

friends, friends

#

we can all help new players, no need to infight

#

😤

icy cave
latent obsidian
#

could do

#

theres stuff in there I aint ever done

#

Though I've still not gone through R3 with all my boys who want to

icy cave
past mesa
#

Idk Dj r4 could come out tomorrow

icy cave
devout nimbus
#

People mess up in this game all the time, why aren't there missions where we like pry an unfinished objective off dead prisoners.

#

Also why are doors never already opened or broken

ocean spindle
#

cause u know after 3 years of findin doors on a zone closed it would

#

be really weird to have them open

#

or

#

broken

past mesa
#

Weridly enough we have seen open zone doors before

#

R6d3 shadow error area is an open zone door

icy cave
icy cave
devout nimbus
#

I just don't rlly get how we are getting like clips of communication from people that came before us but it feels like there is not nearly enough evidence that we aren't the first group to try

icy cave
past mesa
#

It is just you need to suspend your disbelief for the purposes of gameplay. Sucks that it takes you out of it though

craggy pier
icy cave
craggy pier
#

Like, a distraction is needed so the swarm/whatever moves away from a place we actually want to go?

icy cave
#

Imma look it up

craggy pier
#

In better terms I could be wrong but I faintly remember it not strictly implying another actual team was doing something at the same time

icy cave
#

R5B4 states we are sent as an expendable diversion and not expected to make it out alive

craggy pier
#

"expended for diversion to clear adjacent sectors" guess "expended" does imply they could die

icy cave
#

This kinda tells us warden is sending someone else

#

I'll check R6C3 as well

devout nimbus
#

Idk just kinda bothers me that I haven't seen another gas mask or weapon on the floor, or like clothing that somewhat looks like the gear we are given look like, or even empty sentries, like some evidence that there are truly people coming before us

craggy pier
#

I mean, I find it a bit ambiguous

icy cave
craggy pier
#

yeah

#

R6C3 is way more clear

icy cave
#

Straight up actually

devout nimbus
#

Ig ill see for myself in alt r6

icy cave
#

R6C3 at least we are absolutely sent in as decoy for another team to do something somewhere

icy cave
craggy pier
#

Maybe the Warden was doing something itself 😄

icy cave
icy cave
craggy pier
#

No idea

elder nova
#

So my friends and I have been struggling on ALT://R1C1 for a while now. We can't seem to get through the ||constant waves of enemies that you have to spawn in||, does anyone have any tips?

#

It's probably just us skill issuing but we always seem to get overrun. ||We can't seem to hold back the waves and any gun combo we try just isn't strong enough.||

ocean spindle
#

yeah so what tools u using?

#

not guns
tools :]

elder nova
#

Yea

#

So for a while we ran C-Foam with 3 Sniper Sentries

#

We tried Bio Scanner with 3 Sniper Sentries too

#

But we've been trying to use guns that stun the dudes in place to allow the sentries to do a lot of the owrk

#

work*

#

Didn't sniper sentries get nerfed recently btw?

arctic marten
elder nova
#

I thought so

ocean spindle
#

mh foam isnt really useful in this level, its better the bio
also try usin just guns to kill em since its better to let the sentries work but u b the defendin line

supple abyss
#

Which part of the map are you holding?

ocean spindle
#

try with machineguns or if ur good with em precision weapons

elder nova
#

We aren't really sure where they spawn

elder nova
#

Do you think the 3-Sniper Sentry strat is even viable any more?

arctic marten
supple abyss
elder nova
supple abyss
#

I was able to beat c1 with only 2 other people holding that bridge and it worked pretty well

ocean spindle
elder nova
elder nova
arctic marten
#

enemies essentially spawn where you do at the elevator

elder nova
arctic marten
#

so holding closer to it, at least until the resources are used up, is usually good

elder nova
arctic marten
#

for r1c1, yes

elder nova
#

JUST for R1C1, ok

supple abyss
#

We had 2 sniper sentries and bio, from the bridge it takes around 20 seconds to run back to terminal so one of us would run back slightly early and when enemies were clear the others would run for resources

tardy ingot
#

they spawn 2 rooms away in the direction of the elevator

#

for c1

elder nova
arctic marten
elder nova
elder nova
tardy ingot
#

even before burst sentries were close to sniper sentries in a way. Having 1 still was usually recommended unless vs chargers due to their cover fire
idk how much the sniper sentry shot delay got nerfed, but burst sentry should definetly be the best generally rn. Just bring 1-2 special guns to possibly deal with big guys

#

thanks d4rkevDerp

ocean spindle
#

slap u dont spoil enemies

elder nova
#

I know about Chargers

#

DW

supple abyss
#

Yeah bursts would probably work really well

elder nova
#

Okay

supple abyss
#

And definitely have one or two people with good guns for the big guys and hybrids

arctic marten
tardy ingot
tardy ingot
#

but tbf i havent retested in a while. All these changes to it lol

elder nova
#

Don't worry, I knew about those guys from one of the missions in R7 i believe? I knew they existed

arctic marten
#

thats what i found checking datablocks after update

tardy ingot
#

musicmommyThink interesting that shot delay is up that much but start up down
definetly a harsh nerf tho then (especially for bio symbiosis. 50% slower firing)

elder nova
#

I appreciate ALL you guys' help a lot. Hopefully we beat it soon

arctic marten
#

wait i was wrong about the start firing symbiosis delay, its actually 1.5

elder nova
#

Oh sick

tardy ingot
#

sniper sentry actually heavily nerfed then

#

still should be good at its intended job

arctic marten
#

its shotgun sentry time now

elder nova
#

def, I'll run 2 burst, a sniper, and a bio

#

One more question: Any specific gun breakdowns you'd suggest?

icy cave
supple abyss
#

A good balance of ammo capacity and killing power, one or maybe 2 snipers for giants/hybrids

tardy ingot
elder nova
#

Thanks for all the info everyone

icy cave
elder nova
#

Wilco!

#

o7

craggy pier
#

No idea if anyone said it before, but remember that you can stall the "put code in 30 seconds" to earn a bit more time

#

Useful on the first phases since after wave 4 you start getting a lot more time

icy cave
elder nova
#

How?

elder nova
ocean spindle
#

theres a timer when the 'input code: LATV' appears

#

so u can wait a bit till the last few seconds

#

and then input it

#

so u can get that time plus the inbetween before the next wave

elder nova
#

Oh I see, do they stop spawning when that text appears?

icy cave
ocean spindle
#

theres just residual wave left u can eliminate

elder nova
#

Oh sick, good info too

#

ty

elder nova
tardy ingot
elder nova
#

r1c1

tardy ingot
#

1 sniper can be helpful. But you could also take a choke mod or burst cannon to focus giant enemys down on semi long range. (Sniper with a headshot is the most reliable tho)

Hel gun/machine guns or revolver (if precise) for dealing with smalls

#

for main. Hel revo and carbine are always rly rly good

neon gust
#

Helgun..... precise kekw

#

Just hold a choke and spam that shit homey

#

Hipefully you will get the full pen if it doesnt break on you!

silver fable
#

think eva was suggesting revolver as the precise option

#

wouldn't regard mg's as precise either

lusty bramble
#

I will not jinx this update

neon gust
neon gust
twilit lily
#

I haven't seen anyone post any R7 runs in LFG, is there a reason why? (i'm pretty new)

ocean spindle
#

ah well
...
i tbh dont know- well theres another three rundowns, and one is pretty new [r3] so

minor fractal
supple lion
#

What does “hybrid electrothermal” and “light gas” mean?

#

A few of the new guns have it and I don’t know

sturdy glen
#

pierce

minor fractal
supple lion
#

Interesting

midnight gazelle
#

HEL rifle and HEL gun have piercing just like the HEL revolver

#

And ig the hel shotgun too lmao

tardy ingot
fierce nebula
honest lion
#

Hello. How many blob of c foam does it take to stun a spitter?

twin frigate
#

As in those eyes on the walls and ceiling?

vital sierra
#

it "stunt" for 45 seconds

honest lion
#

I check the wiki and it says 4mn

#

They didn't mention how much I need to stun tho

vital sierra
#

spitter

#

oh you mean shooter?

#

the one that shoot projectile or the one that spit green gu at you?

honest lion
#

Spitter

#

The one that give infection

vital sierra
#

1 blob is enough

#

but for 45 seconds

#

unless that change

fierce nebula
#

I can actually see the use case of that

#

except not as good unless other sections of the level benefit from foam

honest lion
#

This says 4mn

icy cave
honest lion
icy cave
fierce nebula
#

so R1 did come with chargers

#

was there just a drought of enemies until R6? which introduced flyers

mossy aurora
#

no, the bullrush scout was introduced in r5

vital sierra
silver fable
#

the hydra was introduced in r4

vital sierra
#

R1: normal enemies (striker, shooter), Giants, Charger, Shadow

#

R2: Hybrid, Giant Shadow, Spitter

#

R3: Baby, Birther, Pmom

#

R4: Giant charger, Tank

#

R5: Charger Scout

#

R6: Flyer, Shocker, Boss

#

R7: Snatcher, Immortal

#

that's what i remember

silver fable
#

forgot scout in r1

fierce nebula
#

scout among us, imposter

vital sierra
#

ye

#

ye...

#

i don't remember when we got shadow scout

craggy pier
#

r4

vital sierra
#

oh

#

that was underwhelming

fierce nebula
#

okay so it has been consistent
just that with early alt rundown releases gives a perspective of no new enemies

silver fable
#

it'd be fun if they slipped totally new enemy designs into upcoming alts

#

wouldn't hold my breath though

vital sierra
#

Alt:R5 cough cough

#

Alt R5 right now will have only cocoon

#

since charger scout is in Alt R3

icy cave
silver fable
#

ah

vital sierra
#

kill them like a normal shooter

silver fable
#

I was thinking, time for baby scouts?

#

could have like 20 of them in a mommy room

icy cave
#

But one baby scout scream calls in a mother

fierce nebula
#

actually that would be cool

#

baby scout that summons a mom

#

and since the mom would be aggro immediately it would make it interesting to fight

icy cave
#

Would change the dynamic pretty significantly and guarantees a depletion of resources. Cause now you can't hammer the wave away.

weary mesa
#

I mean you can use a door to make her scream then hammer stagger her to death if you really wanted to

fierce nebula
#

you can avoid births with hammer/bat stagger?

vital sierra
#

hammer is op

weary mesa
#

Yes

vital sierra
#

500 stagger damage

wooden osprey
wooden osprey
vital sierra
#

they did

#

hammer already OP from the start

#

that's why you get the feeling of other melee

#

those feel like a melee

#

and then Hammer

fierce nebula
#

hammer is like a mega fusion of every other weapon

vital sierra
#

it's like they are afraid of removing hammer

#

because people already got used to hammer in EA

#

and it is an iconic melee weapon

fierce nebula
#

they could just nerf it into oblivion or buff the other weapons but yes

vital sierra
#

the other weapon feel fine as a melee (could need a minor buff)

#

but hammer is just Hammer

silver fable
#

last hammer rebalance I remember was r6 launch

#

which took away occi tap, but otherwise was a buff

#

faster charge, I think that's when they added all that stagger

#

also some convenience of life improvements like charge cancel and fixing the thing where your input would be swallowed sometimes when you try to charge again after a swing

#

and yeah hammer is busted

#

solo hammering giants should actually be tricky

icy cave
#

Important to be precise. it is the internet after all

fierce nebula
latent obsidian
icy cave
#

And it's probably not easy hence my comment

latent obsidian
#

By the damage numbers it looks like you could pop a tumor with 2 charged hits

#

But I don't notice a very long stagger animation when fighting her normally

#

and I don't expect it would interrupt birthing

icy cave
weary mesa
#

She has to “wind up” the birth after being staggered

icy cave
latent obsidian
#

so you coordinate hitting tumours in sequence with a buddy staggered with your other pair of players?

#

Guessing you need 4

weary mesa
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She can be staggered during the birth and run across the room birthing

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Pretty funny

latent obsidian
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that sounds awful 😅

weary mesa
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It should always stagger after 2 based on numbers but it either bugs out or is a rounding error problem

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Still really consistent with 4

latent obsidian
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noted

weary mesa
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Be a homie and hit the small tumors first

fierce nebula
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just need two players

wheat tulip
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I am new player. Do i have to play in sequence to understand the story?

icy cave
fierce nebula
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R6 and R7 is when the story gets force fed

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otherwise you still need terminal logs anyway

icy cave
tardy ingot
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so yeah

probably some rounding

wheat tulip
latent obsidian
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😂

icy cave
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What just happened here?

latent obsidian
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D4 was just helping a new player

icy cave
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Ah I saw a ping so I came back from my slumber

tardy ingot
craggy pier
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wish I had D4 skill

icy cave
craggy pier
fierce nebula
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if that was the reactor one

latent obsidian
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It isn't

merry socket
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Not sure if this is the right sub for this, but I keep hearing this melodic jingle (best way I can describe it) in ALT R2, I feel like it's completely random, and repeats a little bit. I've heard it probably 3 or 4 times now across different expeditions and I can't for the life of me figure out where it's coming from or what it means. Anyone know what I'm talking about ?

vital sierra
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a clip of it would be good

merry socket
# vital sierra a clip of it would be good

I know, its hard to catch because I'm not sure what triggers it, or if it's just an environmental noise. Sounds like it's played on some sort of PA system in the environment. It's like a "happier" sounding jingle that starts on a high note then comes in sets of 3 notes, dropping in tone with each note.

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If I can get a clip I'll upload it, just never know when it's going to play

latent obsidian
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I think I know what you mean, I figured it was part of the ambient music that was a little more noticeable than usual

merry socket