#gtfo-related-questions

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minor fractal
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1000 p sure

vital sierra
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and E1 was at release like rayalot said, we would beat it anyway

minor fractal
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I feel the opposite, actually.

ocean spindle
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lmao

minor fractal
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R2E1 was beaten right away because it was delayed.

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R2D1 was nutty shit on release, I don't think anyone was ready for R2E1.

ocean spindle
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i mean most players were slow sneakin n stuff right

vital sierra
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we didn't expect error alarm

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and we're shit at everything except kiting

minor fractal
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I mean, people had double kills and stuff figured out.

ocean spindle
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i mean naturally

minor fractal
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It just wasn't very well optimized.

ocean spindle
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mhh interestin

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:^

vital sierra
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now we have guides and videos

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fully optimized info

minor fractal
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I think my first R2D1 took 2.5 hours iirc.

vital sierra
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the 6 hours R2D1

ocean spindle
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help what

minor fractal
vital sierra
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instead of actually playing it

minor fractal
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Room with two scouts is so scary, let's go to the zone with 10 scouts instead.

neon gust
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cell dupe for the win

vague bridge
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so is shotgun sentry bafd or good

ocean spindle
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bad

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the old one is nice

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present day shotgun sentry is not great

vague bridge
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why not

brisk swift
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People make fun of it and itโ€™s less confident in its abilities now ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

ocean spindle
vague bridge
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can we be /srs pretty please

brisk swift
ocean spindle
# vague bridge can we be /srs pretty please

oki shotgun sentry is not cool cause- im sure u know why but just in case- low ammo, suprisingly low dmg [considerin it has about the same ammo as the sniper sentry], misses most shots cause it aims for a headshot, and shoots way too fast with biotracker symbiosis, makin it so if u tag enemies on an alarm, its gonna waste all its bullets, kill lil enemies and not help

vague bridge
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i see

ocean spindle
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u have eyes

vague bridge
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i see

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oh i said it twice

ocean spindle
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u see double

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u need glasses

brisk swift
vague bridge
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2 see = 2 eyes

craggy pier
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is there any reason to use arbalist over veruta

ocean spindle
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yes
it more manageable, has a bit more dmg per bullet

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and its awesome

craggy pier
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manageable meaning what, better recoil?

ocean spindle
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yeah
and a bit slower rate of fire i think

fierce nebula
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arbalist just better to use

ocean spindle
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i think both

lusty bramble
craggy pier
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lol

lusty bramble
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It doesn't stagger on body shot, meaning that if you spam it into a crowd, it's likely nothing will get staggered

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So you'll just not be able to create any space with it

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They already did its gimmick better when they tried to recreate the r1 machinegun with the heavy AR and it works perfectly

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So just use that if you want control and more damage per bullet

winged turtle
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wait, doesn't HAR have random directional recoil? and that controls better than the Veruta?

tardy ingot
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yeah thats a bit of err

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arbalist is definetly better than veruta and HAR control wise

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har in r6 tho Sweating

tardy ingot
soft crater
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Veruta has more total damage iirc

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But ofc. Rapid fire/harder to control over Arbalist

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And it's roughly only 20 damage more? Iirc

glass sand
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my screens black

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what do

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nvm wtf

arctic marten
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turn on monitor

craggy pier
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Uninstall gtfo

glass sand
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ok

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ty

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alt f4ing worked

winged turtle
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the other solutions are go to map and back i hear?
but so is waiting it out

left copper
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So ive been thinking of getting the game but I really didn't like the idea of limited-time missions with the whole "rundown" thing, especially since I typically tend to become invested in the lore for most games I play. After learning about the ALT:// Rundowns I was wondering if their were any differences between them and the original Rundowns or if they were pretty much an exact replica of each other

craggy pier
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It's stuff like "this room wasn't like this" et cetera

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And some levels also has different things to it

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||R1C1 didnt have hybrids and I think R2D2 had infectious fog||

left copper
soft crater
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actually Alt rundowns added some lore

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idk about r2

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but r1 didn't have logs in the past iirc

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the map layouts are 1:1 but the actual rooms/tileset are basically remade to look different

lethal cargo
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is there a way to unlock rundowns i missed because i only got 1,2,7 rn

glad ether
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mods or wait

turbid horizon
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ALT R3 is going to be added next, followed by R4-6

lethal cargo
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ty for the info

vague bridge
arctic marten
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there was a disinfection station in the reactor room, so it didnt really matter

vague bridge
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oh that's less sucky

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code 8/10 though

lethal cargo
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also is it possible to get old event cosmetics from random drop on rundown completion or nah

vague bridge
vague bridge
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oh event cosmetics

turbid horizon
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specifically thing like the Lunar New Year mask or the camo gear

lethal cargo
vague bridge
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ner

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kovac red ranger but not red

turbid horizon
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other way around, the R7 completion mask was the original, then the Kovac Red Ranger came out later

vague bridge
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yeah

turbid horizon
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you can't get the RR anymore

turbid horizon
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afaik

tardy ingot
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current code 8 you just sneak (cuz massive time) or pull the rooms while inside

cinder notch
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which guns other than sniper can 1-shot headshot scouts?

vague bridge
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revolver, shotgun, tactical pistol

cinder notch
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the special slot revolver, mastaba? i think i read it will only in occiput

vague bridge
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i believe combat shotgun can two-shot scouts if you time it right

cinder notch
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which shotgun(s)? i assume there's obv a bit of a distance component

vague bridge
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i havent tried choke mod but id assume so

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because shotgun does

cinder notch
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special slot pump shotgun or the primary one?

tardy ingot
cinder notch
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ty ty!

tardy ingot
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if you include more than 1 shot it grows even further but becomes harder to do

cinder notch
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ive been trying to learn to melee them too, not sure how much safer it is to get in close enough with shotgun

tardy ingot
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its mostly a โ€ždont have time to chargeโ€œ moment for both standard shotty and combat

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choke mod has big range (just care for spread)

vague bridge
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charge time ceases to be an issue when you have knife

ocean spindle
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then hittin the scout becomes the issue

vague bridge
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not if you play the right strategy

ocean spindle
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run away :D /j

vague bridge
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precisely

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then while its tendril'ing

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you shank em

ocean spindle
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nono i said run away

vague bridge
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okay

ocean spindle
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:D

tardy ingot
vital sierra
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trying to figure out how to do class X in R7D1 with 1 sentry

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anyone has any good advice

craggy pier
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shoot the chargers with your guns

vital sierra
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the shadow one

craggy pier
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shoot the shadows with your guns

tardy ingot
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Also why would you only have 1 sentry if you do Class X musicmommyThink

hardy grotto
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just circle kite the shadows

vital sierra
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i'm thinking of people picking 1 of each

hardy grotto
tardy ingot
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id presume that thats off the table beth

vital sierra
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since all of the tool are "recommended"

tardy ingot
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if you do it like that tho

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you could cfoam/mine multiple doors

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for that alarm

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they do spawn 2 rooms away rigjt?

vital sierra
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nope

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they spawn 1 room away

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so, the 191D is where they spawn

tardy ingot
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hmm

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just dont do shadow class X KEKW

vital sierra
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might come to that conclusion as well

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either 2 sentries or do error

mossy aurora
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sentry not even that useful for that alarm because the best funnel spot to put the sentry is out of bio ping range

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unless the bio player stands in the front

vital sierra
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for me, the best thing to do is 2 sentries on 2 sides

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the team split 2 - 2 and the bio guy need to ping a lot

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and fast as possible

mossy aurora
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can get away with a lot of meleeing in that alarm

vital sierra
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the alarm seem good enough because, you'll use all of your resources

tardy ingot
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class x shadow seems like a pretty big waste generally

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seeing that (after some runs with 3 sentries) error alarm is still easy with sentrys only

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and you get way more ressources that way

vital sierra
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it's a resources check since you basically going in with 2 zones resources

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and it is enough resources to do class X with only shooting

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it's "you choose the slow way and get some more resources" or "you choose the shortcut but you'll lose a lot of resources"

tardy ingot
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tbf shadow class X will force you into the side zone for stealth always

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but error makes charger X possible easily

vital sierra
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i think that was the dev intended

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the player lose a lot of resources -> go for 203 204 205/206 for resources -> while in there, lower class X to class V

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or

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the player beat error alarm AND arena scan -> give them some resources -> they can now choose to do class X right away or go get more resources (+ lower class X to V)

tardy ingot
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(Cheesy)
Do error -> activate room scan -> activate charger X -> deactivate

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max ressource safe

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also quick

vital sierra
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the error alarm spawn 12 enemies

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for normal player, it seem hard

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for 1k hour veteran player, would be walk in the park

fierce nebula
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skill issue PirateSimon

vital sierra
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literally

lusty bramble
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I just do both class xs consecutively, using the side zone as a resource grab before doing so

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Haha I'm just kidding no one can load into r7d1 don't be ridiculous

winged turtle
tardy ingot
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you can litteraly check it in the D1 runs we did KEKW

winged turtle
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bhaha i assumed you just X->X->Babied

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pushing forward through an error alarm is still a maneuver difficult enough that I wouldn't recommend it to people having trouble with this mission to make it easier lol

tardy ingot
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ah yeah lol

tho you can always kill the error

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and once you deac the 2nd class X can get ressources

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im still not sure whether double class X is quicker (since you probably have to have 1 person shadow kite the whole spawn)

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but to try id need 2 other people

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who have console

winged turtle
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oh? Who onyour squads is actually runs console command open? i figured it was most of the speedrunners in here were learning it

tardy ingot
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hm?

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whatcha mean?

winged turtle
tardy ingot
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oh. the mod

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for testing

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what is quicker

winged turtle
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gotcha!

rugged lodge
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can iix syringe syringeyellow + spear one hit charger scout??

craggy pier
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in the back yes

icy cave
devout nimbus
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I been trying to just do the beginning ventilation sequence of c2 over and over again by myself, but when playing today on the like 4th scan the bots just dont go in the scan. Did they make a bug fix or something and broke bots again or whats happening?

winged turtle
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old bug, on the level where that bug is the most prominent

devout nimbus
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is there something specific they need to drop with or something to prevent it?

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i have been just doing this sequence over and over again whenever im bored

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and it never happened before

winged turtle
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huh, i may be wrong about that level having it bad, but this an infamous bug. with no fix

devout nimbus
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Why do they even make it to require bots to be in team scan

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If you dont want to fix bugs why bother give the possibility for said bugs

icy cave
devout nimbus
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how do you make game suggestions anymore?

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I go to that one website they linked and im so lost

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I lokey think making the game completable is a good suggestion

neon gust
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You send them an email

neon gust
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The game its completeable woth bots

icy cave
neon gust
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2 players and 2 bots mindo you

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That was their main intention with it

icy cave
neon gust
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Wait

devout nimbus
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So the bots wont be high if I have a friend?

neon gust
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He on 3 bots?

devout nimbus
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yes

icy cave
neon gust
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Man you silly as hell

devout nimbus
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they dont pick up the battery anyway so it dont matter

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but like

icy cave
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so he is f'd anyways

neon gust
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Yeah

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Micromanagement central

neon gust
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Got introduced in alt r1

devout nimbus
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is it only on C2?

neon gust
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Pray they fix them in alt r3

neon gust
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Reboot game

devout nimbus
icy cave
hardy grotto
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cyberheist addresses these issues

icy cave
devout nimbus
icy cave
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they'll probably release cyberheist without bots as well

devout nimbus
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I was just dumb and died on the room scan cuz i forgor fog repeller

icy cave
neon gust
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You can install better bots mod to give them actual combat skills

icy cave
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solo

neon gust
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Not gonna fix the bugs tho

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Or minibosses

devout nimbus
neon gust
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You can... technically

icy cave
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it's just R7E1 I think

devout nimbus
devout nimbus
neon gust
icy cave
neon gust
devout nimbus
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I did R7C1 with bots it was fun, I think D1 with bots would be way to hard

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I did it duo and the only reason we won is cuz we had two ppl to kill the tank at the end

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the bots die instantly to that

tardy ingot
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the killing part isnt the issue

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its the terminal rng

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you have to do both commands in the time limit

devout nimbus
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yea nvm

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not doable for me'

neon gust
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You kinda need two people

devout nimbus
tardy ingot
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it has been solod (and done with bots cuz that wouldnt change much rly) but its rng only

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2 people make it normal difficulty

devout nimbus
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does anyone have an estimated time in which I can expect alt r3

tardy ingot
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like 2 player 2 bots is hard but fine

Since all content has been done duo

neon gust
tardy ingot
neon gust
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Its just 6 levels tho

tardy ingot
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7?

neon gust
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Fuck A3

devout nimbus
tardy ingot
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will be a nice rundown%

neon gust
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Pretty simple

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From r5 and onwards the game gets a little.more complicated

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Corrupted uplinks and such

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So you might wanna get your friend for that one

devout nimbus
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thank god cuz finally beating r7d2 duo made me want to commit sepukku

neon gust
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4th slot bot its pretty nice just give him.biotracker and you set

tired salmon
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when does Rundown 3 re release this year?

ocean spindle
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we dont know

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prob next month maybe

tired salmon
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thx well hoping so only the 2 e sectors are missing and r7e1 we almost beaten last try so we could use some new content ๐Ÿ˜„

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btw someone mentioned that GTFO doesn't stand for Get the f.. out
maybe someone can tell me what it does stand for then?

ocean spindle
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.t gtfo

uneven gulchBOT
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The game is called GTFO and it doesn't stand for "Get The Fuck Out" but rather the feeling you have that you want to complete The Warden's objective and GTFO.

ocean spindle
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also good luck on the e levels :]

tired salmon
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thx but we made it till r7e1 3dr wave at the end so i guess in the next 10 trys we will beat it

icy cave
ocean spindle
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w>

icy cave
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Nah I dunno if that's true. But It seems that way

tired salmon
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well besides r7e1 we only have r2e1 left PE's and stuff is all done

icy cave
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The PE's as well tbh ๐Ÿ˜…

tired salmon
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maybe doing some others to get a resuply on boosters

ocean spindle
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ah but the pe's are fun

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u might die couple times but they r funk

icy cave
ocean spindle
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ah yeah but its fun to farm em
maybe

tired salmon
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i know but useing them to make thins a bit simpler

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things

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i mean ammo supply booster or so for e sectors are nice to have

ocean spindle
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yeah, theres no harm on doin couple first runs w/o em, see the terrain the go into em

tired salmon
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but from what the wiki says there is no e sector in r3 and r4 and some more

arctic marten
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no e in r3, but there is one in r4

ocean spindle
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the E1 in R4 came with an extension i think

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so if u went to the normal r4 no extension wont appear

icy cave
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you're thinking of R3 and R6

lusty bramble
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.t gtfo

uneven gulchBOT
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The game is called GTFO and it doesn't stand for "Get The Fuck Out" but rather the feeling you have that you want to complete The Warden's objective and GTFO.

arctic marten
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.t seeded_run

ocean spindle
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.t modding

uneven gulchBOT
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GTFO doesn't officially support mods and we don't allow them to be played in public lobbies or voice channels on this server, and lengthy discussions should also be avoided (mentioning them is perfectly fine). However, we do recognize that a GTFO modding community exist and if you are interested in them, you are welcome to join the independent modding community Discord server. https://discord.gg/rRMPtv4FAh (If you have any more questions, please read rule #12 in the rules channel for more information.)

ocean spindle
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yei it works again

lusty bramble
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.t seeded_run

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.t calle

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.t help

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.t comamnds

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.t commands

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.t wiki

uneven gulchBOT
lusty bramble
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.t gtfo

uneven gulchBOT
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The game is called GTFO and it doesn't stand for "Get The Fuck Out" but rather the feeling you have that you want to complete The Warden's objective and GTFO.

lusty bramble
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.t tiktok

ocean spindle
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dauda appears makin a fortnite dance

lusty bramble
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.t dauda

arctic marten
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.t lettuce

lusty bramble
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.t gtfo

uneven gulchBOT
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The game is called GTFO and it doesn't stand for "Get The Fuck Out" but rather the feeling you have that you want to complete The Warden's objective and GTFO.

lusty bramble
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hello admins I am not spamming

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please do not mute or ban me

arctic marten
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.t moderators

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ban him

ocean spindle
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ur goin to the undergrounds

lusty bramble
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.t developer

arctic marten
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he ruined my kid's 6th birthady party

lusty bramble
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.t lfg

uneven gulchBOT
arctic marten
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he sold my kid crack cocaine and said it was "for a good cause" but i saw him he only used the money to buy more crack

lusty bramble
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it was for my college tuition

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to sell more crack

arctic marten
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crack degree

lusty bramble
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im cracked

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hello admins and moderators, i was not spamming i was trying to see the list of commands

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please do not mute and ban me

ocean spindle
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im searchin for it cause im sure the mod had a list

lusty bramble
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.t list

uneven gulchBOT
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ocean spindle
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ah there go

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lmao

lusty bramble
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.t roadmap

uneven gulchBOT
ocean spindle
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oki to BOT COMMANDS

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before u

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get

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died

lusty bramble
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hello admins and gtfo moderators

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i am not incorreclty using channels i was testing if the comamdns worked

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i ask that you refrain from usng the mute and ban feature in discord

ocean spindle
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thats incorrectly usn the channels CHANGE IT CHANGE IT

lusty bramble
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please directly dm me "You're on thin ice, buddy!" instead

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it will serve a similar purpose

ocean spindle
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why are mines placed inside the security doors and not on the lil wall outside?

spark wolf
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place as close as possible so it reaches as deep as possible

devout nimbus
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The like 40 minutes of unused voicelines will be used at some point.... right?

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Im scared R8 comes and their done with the game and all these voice lines are never used

ocean spindle
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... theres a mod if u wanna hear em

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.t modding

uneven gulchBOT
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GTFO doesn't officially support mods and we don't allow them to be played in public lobbies or voice channels on this server, and lengthy discussions should also be avoided (mentioning them is perfectly fine). However, we do recognize that a GTFO modding community exist and if you are interested in them, you are welcome to join the independent modding community Discord server. https://discord.gg/rRMPtv4FAh (If you have any more questions, please read rule #12 in the rules channel for more information.)

devout nimbus
ocean spindle
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yeah probably
there were more

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they pulled em out

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i mean not more they were used more

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but now they r barely there

devout nimbus
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did they say why they removed them?

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I feel like game would feel better if the characters did more than fucking groan when they get slapped by a big guy

ocean spindle
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think they said they didn't work for keepin the atmosphere, i guess they meant the horror and stuff
and also they didn't said it but i guess they did it for the people that found em annoying too

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cause if they are all activated they sound every 10 seconds

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which for me is awesome but for some people doesn't cut it

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specially when usin vc

winged turtle
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ya, its nice if we kept the variety but kept the current frequency

devout nimbus
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they should of just put voicelines on a toggle or something

ocean spindle
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i said the same thing

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like a slider for the amount

devout nimbus
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yea something like that, instead of all or none

ocean spindle
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options people! options! :D

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but well i hope one day

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but for the meantime we got the mod

stuck brook
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I really wish we heard more of the old lines ๐Ÿ˜” also wish that they said smtn when getting snatched? It's super anticlimactic (and, to be honest, confusing and panic inducing) when u get snatched and they're just like "I'm down!" When they're still at 70 health

ocean spindle
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i mean the confusin and panic inducing is a bit of the point

stuck brook
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True but like,,, it's not the right kind of panic?

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It's just frustrating to hear "I'm down!" And then they're fine
I think hearing very muffled screaming as an outside perspective from whoever got snatched as they shout for help would be WAY SCARIER and panic inducing the right way

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Lines when they're on the ground and screaming for help with their whole chest are scary, especially if you really like the characters, and I think hearing them panic would be a nightmare

ocean spindle
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... eh its true, they do have like very horrifying screams that arent used so those would be cool

arctic marten
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the only good line is the woods line where he says "i just got jizzed on by a bug" after getting damaged by a spitter

stuck brook
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BASED.

ocean spindle
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yeah no disagreement

stuck brook
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Also Hacketts very aggressive "Go for the balls- always the balls." Line, that one is so goofy I love it sm

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Most of Hacketts lines are just so so good- the ones where they're walking in circles and he mentions bumping into himself or that he pissed in the corner. He's just such a silly little guy why did they take it away ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ

woeful jay
fierce nebula
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who R3

glad pike
winged turtle
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"Where should I put R3?"

latent obsidian
winged turtle
fierce nebula
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my ass-

winged turtle
glass sand
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mrw e1

glass sand
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is there a dog error alarm?

jagged shore
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d1 overload is one isn't it?

glass sand
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yes

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but is there one in e1?

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or do they come when we open doors?

jagged shore
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oh, you meant like that
to my knowledge it's just when you do a couple specific things
open a couple specific doors, then (mild spoiler i guess? dunno how far you got) ||when you start the full room scan||

glass sand
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but ok thats good to know

winged turtle
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R8E1 is exactly R7's, but with two dogs at the fourth section

glass sand
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if i place mines on the top side of a door, it can pop a tanks tumors right

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i remember that being a thing

icy cave
glass sand
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i mean, it's reasonable if we're low on ammo

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righht

icy cave
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Actually On R7E1 it's better to dicht mines altogether

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Foam, 2 sentries and bio

glass sand
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how deal with the two tanks though

icy cave
glass sand
glass sand
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i was throwing glowsticks at it thats why it wasnt dying

icy cave
glass sand
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oh no

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wait how far's the first checkpoint?

icy cave
icy cave
glass sand
#

A

jagged shore
#

is an E level

glass sand
#

i haven't played an E level before :)

icy cave
jagged shore
#

i've been working on that level with my friends, we've essentially gone with, person with sniper holds ammo from first room, then goes into tanks with full ammo and is pretty much the only one to fire at them aside from drawing aggro

jagged shore
#

what is the triangle lmao

#

i am interested in this

icy cave
#

Get tanks out and basically alternate aggro

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shotties, sniper (if you really must)

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If done well tanks die VERY quick

glass sand
#

i have someone that tamed the tank

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ggs wp

#

uh

icy cave
glass sand
#

??????????????

icy cave
#

the Grey one?

fierce nebula
#

the one that hit the whip

glass sand
#

immortal

icy cave
glass sand
#

i meant he tamed him

#

hh

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we shot the tanks n u were right they died

icy cave
glass sand
#

man

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mrw dog

icy cave
#

Ofc

fierce nebula
#

bro explaining the game like "so I lured the Scout near a vent and got them to crawl into it. I Immediately screamed "imposter!" and ran for the cafeteria. Slamming that emergency meeting. I use photographic evidence to convince the sleepers that Scout is an imposter. But for some reason I was the one voted out. And proceeded to lose the game"

glass sand
#

never speak again please

soft crater
#

No. no they have a point

#

go on

glass sand
#

top 10 funniest maps in gtfo

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number 1

#

gtfo

#

is doing e1 harder than doing the other r7 PEs?

soft crater
#

not you

#

smh

glass sand
#

smh

winged turtle
#

not that you actually asked, but i like saying so

tardy ingot
#

hmm

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feel like half the difficulty of R7C3 is pure stealth on giants. If you dont mind being bored out of your mind its piss easy
And the awake part only rly is hard on the blood door in overload. And you can still stabilize

R7E1 punishes you with lack of ressources quite quickly. So a bad 1st scan can already screw you over. Or any other thing going wrong tbf

and checkpoints... rly shouldnt be accounted for difficulty noooo

winged turtle
#

so hopefully i can side step the 'difficulty vs punishing' discussion, why should checkpoint not be considered?

tardy ingot
#

cuz they make it so there is no "failing" once you reach them

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you can brute force so many levels even with lack of ressources just by trying a million times

icy cave
#

D4 I understand your point, you know my pov is even more radical than that, but point is that a checkpoint well used will make a run doable

tardy ingot
#

please dont call me D4

icy cave
tardy ingot
#

well yea
but i dont consider checkpoints part of a level difficulty

they do make levels easier to clear. Same for stuff like buffed tools

jagged shore
#

he was very polite about his request to not be called that tbf

tardy ingot
#

im sick of it because enough stupid people do it over and over at this point

icy cave
#

fair enough

tardy ingot
#

im also not mad at dna for it nod

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just gets exhausting

jagged shore
#

ooc what is your preferred way to be referred to

icy cave
#

I've seen the folks you have to deal with. I understand ๐Ÿ˜…

tardy ingot
#

but yeah
i dont consider checkpoints smth that makes a level easier, but it makes it easier to clear

#

in the same way a good squad doesnt make a level easy. just easier to clear

winged turtle
icy cave
#

don't call him that

tardy ingot
#

i mean yea. D4RKEVA is the full name so KEKW
eva is what most people who do stuff with me call me
Dark is like a new aqquaintance thing

winged turtle
tardy ingot
#

yea

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its also why i consider some levels "harder" in design in r1/r2

even tho r1 is obviously easier to clear now with stronger tools.

icy cave
tardy ingot
#

tho tools obviously have more direct impact on level difficulty than checkpoints imo

winged turtle
#

so in your opinion, is R7C3pe easier than R7E1?

hardy grotto
hardy grotto
#

i dont consider r7c3 PE very hard

tardy ingot
#

tbf very hard is subjective in that moment
and you arent exactly lower tier for players

#

iirc it was ranked like 3rd to 4th hardest overall currently?

hardy grotto
#

well yea but like

#

comparatively to r7e1

tardy ingot
#

but i do agree

winged turtle
tardy ingot
#

yea

icy cave
#

R7E1 is probably harder still

hardy grotto
#

i think r7e1 is a lot harder than r7c3

icy cave
#

And I think it's harder to recover from a mistake in R7E1 than from one in R7C3PE

tardy ingot
#

pretty much that yea

#

if you dont troll stealth (and its not exactly forcing you to mess up with all the foam and syringes) the only real wipe point is blood door

winged turtle
#

hmmm i feel like its close. and with perma-foaming the room scan and babysitting pablo the first 1/2 of E1 gets trivialized, then the level becomes the 2 stealths through the respawn room

tardy ingot
#

you still have the first scan

winged turtle
#

i don't thing C3pe has any point that can be trivialized like that

tardy ingot
#

pablo will be with you. and bad scans will eat ressources

#

surviving it isnt "hard" but also not easy

#

then with lower ressources any mistake on tank fight leads to a quick end in teleport area

winged turtle
#

hmm it relies on rng instead of team execution of stealth on giant

tardy ingot
#

i mean 99% of the active part of C3 is. mine door and shoot in straight line

winged turtle
#

now staying mobile and ahead of pablo feels like an easier slill than managing giant melee kills

tardy ingot
#

and you also gotta consider how much specific stuff is being done to make R7E1 easier to the group

#

waiting for snatcher when opening door
kiting pablo away for 1st scan (usually)
baby sitting pablo instead of having it follow you into tank fight

more baby sitting and abusing the (probably bugged) spawn location with perma foam

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many people even cheese the dimension teleport

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respawn blocking shadow zone

craggy pier
#

Regarding difficulty, I'd like to add just two things, if I may be so bold

tardy ingot
#

all of those are obviously fine to use (well aside from teleport cheese being very much abusing smth hard) but its different to c3 where its straightforward stealth

craggy pier
#

1- Some maps have required strategies that a group may/may not find confortable to. For example many people probably can deal with error alarm/fog/chargers, whatever. R7E1 has a relatively unique mechanic never found in the game before, and mixes shadows, chargers, charger scouts, a reactor... there's a lot of stuff in that level.

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2- Whenever I voted on that list darkeva linked to me my reasoning was "which maps would I be less willing to do with a people of 3 randos that never did that map (but knew the game)?"

tardy ingot
#

oh yeah. people that struggle with R7C3 usually are either straight up not good with meleeing giants or are chaotic and impatient. Lemme tell ya, my first clear took like 10 attempts because of 2 of my friends rushing in headfirst

i went through footate. i had over 100 revives in those sessions while only dying like 15 times

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(not that im "better" lol. i just played safe and they ran in KEKW )

craggy pier
#

Yeah I mean, there's a lot to unpack in R7E1 and if you're good at melee you have a decent chance at R7C3PE IMHO

#

Could I find people that never played R7E1 that know what to do with pablo (staring contest or whatever, I danced around a column and I was fine)?

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Probably not.

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It may be a skewed perspective

tardy ingot
#

R7E1 is imo impossible to first time for a non vet team (without spoilers)

craggy pier
#

But I think that most maps get DRASTICALLY easier if you've a fixed group that knows their way around

tardy ingot
#

theres too many curveballs

winged turtle
craggy pier
#

I reached reactor in R7E1 5 times including the try I finished it

#

Out of a gazzilion times my group died before desert

tardy ingot
#

imo C3PE is definetly a step up from both D2s

craggy pier
#

Which also meant 1 guy gets tired, leaves, rinse repeat

winged turtle
#

having a set group of 4 is beyond huge for learning R7E1

craggy pier
tardy ingot
#

R2D2 is challenging but not hard at all

craggy pier
#

well both D2 now that I think about it

craggy pier
#

and save for the funzone at the end with whatever how many scouts where there, I dont remember R4D1 being particularly pernicious

tardy ingot
#

R4D1 difficulty could be reduced heavily by holding close to spawn tbf

icy cave
tardy ingot
#

without that the waves were a good chunk harder than R2D2 tho

glass sand
icy cave
glass sand
#

but thats cool

icy cave
#

Then died on the secondary due to mommy screaming๐Ÿ˜ญ

craggy pier
tardy ingot
#

well yea
but that spot specifically made it a 1 sided spawn + catwalk shootingrange

craggy pier
#

yeah it was fun ๐Ÿ˜„

#

I remember also doing it with 1 guy spawnblocking the entrance

#

and they only came from bridge

#

takes them longer to come but it was really a breeze

weary mesa
#

Pre extension without sniper sentry and hel revo was interesting holding in the reactor room

#

And if you didn't take BC

neon gust
#

they beauty of r4d1 was everybody holds 1 lane by themselves

weary mesa
#

Everyone slowly gets their own side to defend

#

Before that the extra people transition back and forth on entrances

glass sand
#

whens r3 coming out :)

lusty bramble
#

The beauty of r4d1 was max kiting the shooters

winged turtle
#

never kited indoors before, so i will take your word for it

jagged shore
#

i am once again asking if anyone can confirm this thing i heard at some point about charging scaling cubically
so charging 50% will do (0.5^3)% of a full charge*

  • simplifying
ocean spindle
#

uhh
uhhhh
divided by x^3 -2x+5

winged turtle
#

look, charging for half does less than 50% damage of a full charge

#

any more numbers than that and i cannot help you

jagged shore
#

i must know the numbers

winged turtle
#

God go with you

minor fractal
jagged shore
#

sick ty

craggy pier
#

weapons somehow get affected by armour multi

#

you fire bullets at the tumors

#

ok but have you factor in armour multi

#

what

#

damage gets reduced according to him

#

if you dont hit a tumor you deal little or 0 damage

#

the tumors have a 5x multiplier

#

which is also affected by weapons crit multi

#

ok but even if you hit the tumor, it gets reduced by armour multi according to him

#

according to who

vital sierra
#

idk if this is badger or not

#

feel like him

#

are you bored badger?

craggy pier
#

this is not badger but i know him and he told me to do this whenever ztriw speaks

#

lmao

vital sierra
#

oh no

#

it's him

#

new account

craggy pier
#

?

#

i know vietnamese people are unintelligent but please read better

vital sierra
#

oh no

craggy pier
#

oh my god

vital sierra
#

HE'S HERE GUY

#

THE LEGEND HIMSELF

hardy grotto
#

captain alpha can u teach me how to kite better

craggy pier
#

guys how do i communicate with vietnamese people

vital sierra
craggy pier
#

i swear they can't comprehend basic english

hardy grotto
#

thank u captain alpha

tardy ingot
craggy pier
#

๐ŸŒฑ

vital sierra
#

god damn, you don't have to roast vietnamese people like that tho

#

jeez

vital sierra
vital sierra
#

damn

#

i know we're the same kind (chinese) but woah

craggy pier
#

another badger alt bites the dust

vital sierra
#

this one is more R than the rest

icy cave
#

Cue a post in steam discussions how he is being gatekept from the discord

craggy pier
#

why was he even banned to begin with i forgot

vital sierra
#

just search his name

icy cave
#

He 'll probably start attacking me now again aswell

craggy pier
#

looked at message history, couldnt find the reason why

vital sierra
#

he could have a message from @uneven gulch with the reason

#

so, you could ask him directly

craggy pier
#

he evaded the question when I asked him in my server lol

vital sierra
#

maybe he's being R in @uneven gulch too

craggy pier
#

I should totally ask mod contact, surely that will go down well PirateSimon

vital sierra
#

idk if you can but

icy cave
vital sierra
#

hmm, i mean if all mod/admin have the history

#

he'll spawn in with a new account

#

any second now

icy cave
#

But apparently he is also banned from the ban appeal server now so we can only guess how nice he was

craggy pier
#

wish there was a join leave channel so we could take bets on which ones are badger alts

vital sierra
#

you can clearly see which one is him

#

Latv was a coincidence

icy cave
twin hamlet
#

He has a way of talking that you can immediately see

vital sierra
#

oh ye, he might use his alt to be very toxic

twin hamlet
#

also never bothers to use any pfp on alts lmao

vital sierra
#

and then the mod/admin link it back to him somehow

vital sierra
craggy pier
#

he should use an anime pfp to blend in

twin hamlet
#

I wish I had that much free time to just make 300 alts to be somewhere nobody wants me

hardy grotto
#

i want him here Smile

vital sierra
#

maybe join payday 2 modding server then

#

he's there, sometime

craggy pier
#

he's in every other gtfo server

hardy grotto
#

ive never played payday team

icy cave
craggy pier
hardy grotto
#

no

craggy pier
#

smart

hardy grotto
#

with the state this game is in do u really think id wanna play another 10cc game

#

come on now LOL

craggy pier
#

my thoughts exactly

#

they're working on a massive bug fix update rn trust

hardy grotto
#

Cyberheist addresses these issues.

unreal abyss
#

im sure all the bug fixes are in the new reskined game

craggy pier
#

dw guys cyberheist won't have major desync issues

fierce nebula
#

the chinese balloon stole R3

craggy pier
#

true

past star
tardy ingot
#

The he discord musicmommyInspect ?

craggy pier
#

phone moment

past star
#

Very phone moment

#

400 understood. Eva moment

tardy ingot
#

im german

Humor for us is no laughing matter

winged turtle
dusk wolf
#

ayo i heard a rumour that heavy assault rifle and another gun are pretty much underwhelming? which ones are that

icy cave
dusk wolf
#

oh-

ocean spindle
#

both r still usable tho

#

just use em the way they work

icy cave
ocean spindle
#

yes

#

:]

tardy ingot
#

i mean obviously they are useable

#

you can select them and then use them

ocean spindle
#

i meant like not them bein a bit underwhelmin makes it so u dont ever select em again

winged turtle
mossy aurora
fierce nebula
#

๐Ÿค“

verbal zinc
spark wolf
winged turtle
neon gust
#

๐Ÿค“

past star
#

i believe the system they use is the integral of 1/sqrt(9-4x^2) where x is distance and f(x) is dmg taking the base damage of the gun into account

noble sierra
#

So the farther distance the higher damage, makes sense

jagged shore
#

to give an actual answer to the person who deleted their message: i have the same understanding of it that you do

low willow
jagged shore
#

so i believe you are correct

vague bridge
#

because drag speeds things up

low willow
#

Of course!

ocean spindle
#

was it so hard to say 'yeah it works like that' or 'idk'

vague bridge
#

i thought scouts couldnt enter other areas

ocean spindle
#

they cant

vague bridge
#

well 2 of them just did

ocean spindle
#

uh
wanna share with the class the details?

#

... well ive never seen that happen
idk if it could it be that scout path on that precise level could be a bit broken
cause it tries to not get out completely of the area

#

or if it could be a problem with the tile

vague bridge
#

well probably not the former

#

because they both walked right into the middle and gave me a big bear hug

noble sierra
#

Which zone/area?

ocean spindle
#

i saw it was R2D1

#

and i saw red which inclines me to believe it was the alarm door after the generator cluster first alarm door

floral acorn
#

i saw that last in r5c3, 2 different places, both involved 2 closeby open doors, scout exited door a, spaghettied outside and then re-entered door b back to his room

#

damn surprising to return to the neighboring room and almost tripping feelers, "wtf the scout came out"

fierce nebula
#

oh my god we bullied someone into deleting their messages

mossy aurora
#

the guy asking about the math equation for damage fall off?

#

i put that emote because im too dumb for that shit, i shoot gun, it either kills or it doesnt

soft crater
#

I'm interested to know the damage falloff numbers but also when is it ever really that relevant if you're already using guns basically within their effective ranges already

lusty bramble
#

Pistol and some shotguns depend on certain damage fall off ranges to hit breakpoints

#

But for most weapons, ehhh

soft crater
#

:/

lusty bramble
#

Some older weapon spreadsheets still have the falloff ranges

#

Allegedly you can see all the fall off ranges by dumping them into datablocks using MTFO and checking the GameArchetype datablock with notepad but remember to edit your MTFO settings file so it saves dumps that you can inspect

#

Allegedly

neon gust
#

Lemme use pistol at this exact range to two hs a striker

lusty bramble
#

That's rundown 3 black dragon

#

That range is for the 1 hs 2 bs

neon gust
#

Dr dauda its a coward

lusty bramble
#

Died in his sleep

#

By the monsters of his own creation

soft crater
#

When I hear people talk about lore in pubs but it's all the speculation theories that have already been proven to be wrong or right

lusty bramble
#

Yeah that's what theory crafting is

#

The real lore is that the sleepers are chimps

neon gust
#

Chimp theory its true

lusty bramble
#

It was verified by Simon years ago

soft crater
#

The thing is just. They refuse to accept it when I tell them the actual lore that's already been found out

#

I prefer Bucket lore

#

But that's Doc

floral acorn
#

what was that bucket hype anyway

soft crater
#

Doc had a bucket emote

#

And said it was part of the future update

lusty bramble
#

Doc really liked the bucket they added in the r6 ext

floral acorn
#

was it just a middle finger to say "community, examine schaeffer's toilet, have fun with that"

soft crater
#

Maybe.

lusty bramble
#

I think he had a poem he made for it

soft crater
#

Who knows

lusty bramble
#

Was supposed to be an Easter egg thing you'd find in further maps

#

They just gave up on it cause no one really found it that funny

floral acorn
#

cos nothing ever came out of it after.. some thought it to be the "frequencies blocked by certain objects" thing but it hasn't returned

soft crater
#

Never realized this was a emote.

#

Where are muh red glow sticks?

#

Where is muh Yellow glow stick emote?

fierce nebula
#

stuck to Halloween update

craggy pier
# vague bridge well 2 of them just did

Probably late to this but it happens sometimes, I think I remember someone saying that it only happens on certain tiles. I've seen it happen a lot on R5B1 High in rooms A and B of the zone on the left at the start.

eager obsidian
#

hey guys i'm new in this server and i haven't gotten the game YET

#

is playing with bots hard?

latent obsidian
#

harder than playing with even semi competent humans

#

You'll get to a point it becomes impossible with bots

ocean spindle
#

u could probably complete the easy levels with a couple tries and undesrtanding very well the mechanics

#

but then the difficulty curve is gonna go insane after a bit

vague bridge
#

you'll be fine with bots in rundown 1

#

and even early r2

dry aspen
eager obsidian
#

ty guyss

ocean spindle
vague bridge
#

that's what ive been doing

#

c2 seems harder than d1 with 3 bots

ocean spindle
#

... in R2?
if u really understand kinda how bots work its possible
but there is a lot of problems in d1 with resource management

tardy ingot
#

C2 is so chill lol

vague bridge
#

but d1 is easier

ocean spindle
#

d1 is not
...
is the same

#

cause in c2 u will have some problems on alarms and maybe ammo usage [if u move slowly]
also in the fog parts cause rely on bots
in d1 u will have problems on bots grabbin mainly disinfects, and then if u wanna go into the fog u cant
and its all stealth mainly so bots dont help at all there unless u wake something up

#

so its two really different problems

sturdy glen
#

big difference is c2 is short af

vague bridge
#

in c2 you have a lot of objective items

#

bots dont pick those up while in combat

#

and c2 is all combat

#

so you have to manage the turbine, cell, and more while the bots dump their ammo into your average striker

ocean spindle
#

c2? objective items? a turbine, a cell... a key and another cell maybe...

#

d1 if u fuck up a scoutie, ur in shambles

#

in c2 if u spent 40 minutes on the mission, the bots will still have ammo

#

idk how they do it but bots dont use any bullets but kill things

tardy ingot
#

if you have a mine deployer and a knife then the only risk will only ever be the alarms. Which with bots are a no issue

#

whole mission is done in like 20 min at most if you know where to go

vague bridge
#

2nd alarm is a big issue

#

you're either tanking infection or you don't contribute firepower

ocean spindle
#

no it is not really
u mine doors that are close, sentry on the hallway, bots kill almost everything

#

so u just go with the turbine

vague bridge
#

i forgotted mines

ocean spindle
#

and also bots can go t the fog if theres a scan

tardy ingot
sturdy glen
#

fog repellers also exist yea

ocean spindle
sturdy glen
#

if you rush in you can get it done quick you can get out of the fog before most of the wave gets to you

tardy ingot
#

like. a 4 stack of fog repelles for the alarm and 2 sentries with a mine on the big door and you gucci

vague bridge
#

also the general idea scares me

tardy ingot
#

mines are litteraly the best tool in that level

vague bridge
#

im sure a few practice runs could make it work

ocean spindle
#

thats ur feels :] not the level

ocean spindle
vague bridge
#

however

ocean spindle
#

:D

vague bridge
#

d1 was pretty dang peasy

tardy ingot
#

lol

ocean spindle
#

cause most alarm arent, that hard

#

but u fuck up once and u get very overwhelmed

#

and also bots not grabbin fog repellers hurts

vague bridge
#

half the challenge comes from routing

ocean spindle
#

and u cant be the fog dive cause u get disinfected by 7 packs at the same time

vague bridge
#

so if you know where to go and when to go its half as hard

ocean spindle
#

yeah, its true, but even so u gotta ping all the disinfects or ur fucked basically

#

and god forbid u open the wrong box

vague bridge
#

my bots were actually fairly responsible with resources

ocean spindle
#

u didnt like get infected to 20% and got bombed with disinfect?

#

cause if two bots have it, they gonna waste it

#

and they prioritize it

vague bridge
#

i think only dauda had disinfection

ocean spindle
#

maybe u got lucky there

vague bridge
#

maybe

ocean spindle
#

yeah ive, tried a lot of times and if im not the one grabbin disinfects, i end up havin to waste em all, and if fog dive then i just cant heal the infection

#

and also theres some rng with cells if u get one like at the other side of the zone

#

and u dont have enough fog repellers

#

u just gonna have to eat the fog

vague bridge
#

610d cell especially

glass sand
#

how do respawn zones work

ocean spindle
#

if u kill an enemy, and then all of ur group goes more than two rooms away from it

#

it comes back

tardy ingot
#

and a zone

jagged shore
#

respawning won't happen if you don't leave the zone?

tardy ingot
#

yep

jagged shore
#

neat

glass sand
#

even the mothers?

ocean spindle
#

all enemies

#

all

glass sand
#

ggs

ocean spindle
#

:D

weary mesa
#

R5C2 respawning scout with gen cluster

ocean spindle
#

:]

#

funny

tardy ingot
devout nimbus
#

Does anyone ACTUALLY know when we getting R3

#

I want "new" content so bad

weary mesa
#

Nah you just get the cringe posts until it actually releases

devout nimbus
#

dam ๐Ÿ’€

ocean spindle
#

play tetris in the meantime

winged turtle
#

yup, when we run out of content, we become the content, and its ugly

floral acorn
#

we content is most beautiful ๐Ÿ™‚

vague bridge
#

the bots are not shooting

ocean spindle
#

are they meleeing?

vague bridge
#

yes

#

maybe?

#

its an alarm wave and they werent shooting

ocean spindle
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the first alarm...
maybe theres an enemy like right beside u and the bots r tryin to kill it

vague bridge
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no the second

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the one where i cant shoot and have to rely on the bots shooting

ocean spindle
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... did u get overwhelmed early on?

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like, u closed the doors and had enemies only comin from one side?

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or u just got, invaded by all sides

vague bridge
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oh no

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they just didnt shoot

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the doors were closed and mined

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door broke and majority died in the explosion

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and then they didnt shoot

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and we died

ocean spindle
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... then
uh
i have no idea

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cause i hold the turbine the entire thing

clever apex
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When do you guys think Rundown 3 will release?

craggy pier
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tomorrow next month at the earliest

clever apex
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thank you

glad pike
fierce nebula
floral acorn
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same day r8 is released, featuring a new enemy called the kraken 2 .. this time they give it a V12 engine

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(the old one was a lean-running V8)

hallow raven
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I need help with understanding some UI info. under each level is noted "Completed[1,-,-,-] "
what are the - referring to

vital sierra
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it's for
[Main,Secondary,Overload,Prisoner Efficiency]

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right now, we only have Rundown 7 that have all of these extra objective

noble sierra
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.t sectors

uneven gulchBOT
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Sectors are a mechanic which adds optional objectives to the game, ranging from altering the game state to adding other objectives. The following sectors are available:
main Primary
secondary Secondary
overload Overload (Third Sector)
prisonerefficiency Prisoner efficiency (All three Sectors in the same run)

Multiple sectors can be completed at the same time, however you always need to do the Primary/Main sector.

floral acorn
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r7b3 do main, secondary and overload all in the same run and u get Completed [1,1,1,1]

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but skip secondary, [1,0,1,0]

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r7d1 with no secondary, Completed [1,-,1,-]

fierce nebula
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^^^

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if a level is only main it's supposed to be [1,-,-,-]

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but if it has Prisoner Efficiency, then it's [1,0,0,0]

pure oak
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so new to the game and noone is on r1 so i have to play with ai. can i make them synchronise taking out a monster next to me

rain python
pure oak
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ah. ok thanks for answering

rain python
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AI is nice but its still similar to just soloing the level as they have limited functions

pure oak
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at least i can use the equipment i gave them lol

vague bridge
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i had to babysit them while they were running around like headless chickens getting licked by everything

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while carrying the turbine

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while looking for ammo

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i think c2 is harder than d1 with bots

ocean spindle
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im gonna record it just to prove to u how easy it is

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:]

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... thats what i would say if i had
storage at all KSMKDM

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but ah we'll see

low willow
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i think your problem is that you're carrying the turbine around because of how much slower you are with it, i went without it and the bots were usually low on ammo but not out completely

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especially since the disinfect station is pretty central so you don't need to worry all that much about getting some infection on the way there or in 116/118

soft crater
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R7C2?

ocean spindle
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r2c2

soft crater
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Ah

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It's actually pretty hard to run out of ammo in that level imo.

ocean spindle
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yep

soft crater
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but again. With bots

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May be different

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I do miss the original experience of R2C2 vs Alt//: R2C2

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More hectic just because of the lack of experience and less weapons and etc.

ocean spindle
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well the lack of experience can be done with a newie

fierce nebula
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R3C2

ocean spindle
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r8c8

soft crater
ocean spindle
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ah well go back in time :] /lh

soft crater
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Which is why I stated. Original experience of R2C2

ocean spindle
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yes
go back in time

soft crater
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But recreations nonetheless

ocean spindle
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back time :D

soft crater
cedar osprey
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I'm a Korean user. I got error 3, how can I fix it?

ocean spindle
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can you provide some details on the error?

cedar osprey
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ERR03__ Unauthorized system override detecte

winged turtle
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what level are you in?

cedar osprey
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There was an error launching the game

ocean spindle
vague bridge
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isnt that part of the intro

ocean spindle
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yes but
not for 10 minutes :]

vague bridge
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might take a while to load those system assets

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i mean initialize

crude hound
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Hey guys, I have a question, I just completed r2b3 Pathfinder but it still says its incomplete. Any ideas as of why?

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Wait after a minute of waiting it now says its complete

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weird nevermind!

ocean spindle
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uh

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maybe ...

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no i have no idea

sinful cradle
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Me either

ocean spindle
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BUT WELL ITS FIXED YAYYYY- ksmdks

sinful cradle
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Bruh

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I mean

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There still a lot of issues going on

ocean spindle
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yes but that one isnt

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common

sinful cradle
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That aint nothin

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Youll have to experience something weirder

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Lol

ocean spindle
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i mean