gtfo-related-questions

[craggy pier]

LOL SO TRUE

[fierce nebula]

it's a common misconception to use c-foam on ladders since the strikers will just walk through it

[tardy ingot]

Huh

wat

[dry pumice]

Yeah, uhm... Excuse me?

I have vivid visual memories that contradict that statement.

[craggy pier]

my reaction to that misinformation

[thin oyster]

Hi, my friend is new to the game and was wondering if there was a way to make flashing a little easier on the eyes? Such as the huds when the objective pops up and is there help from settings or easy to install mods? He has issues with his sight which can cause sensitivity to flashing lights?

[fierce nebula]

I mean the game warns you about the flashing lights when you boot it up...

and someone else will have to answer you about the mod part

[ocean spindle]

.t modding

[uneven gulch]

GTFO doesn't officially support mods and we don't allow them to be played in public lobbies or voice channels on this server, and lengthy discussions should also be avoided (mentioning them is perfectly fine). However, we do recognize that a GTFO modding community exist and if you are interested in them, you are welcome to join the independent modding community Discord server. https://discord.gg/rRMPtv4FAh (If you have any more questions, please read rule #12 in the rules channel for more information.)

[ocean spindle]

u can ask there

ik theres a slider for pixel effects but idk what it does exactly either

[thin oyster]

I am aware and it was discussed but the HUD for mission objectives was unexpectedly bright the rest cause no issues as far as i'm aware

[fierce nebula]

you can ask in the server above

[past star]

Turn monitor brightness down 🤷🏼‍♂️

[lunar rain]

Or turn on lights in the room?

[past star]

^

Turn of hud 😎

[hard mantle]

It's a contrast issue, the lights are on, my monitor brightness is lowered slightly, if i was to edit contrast anymore i wouldn't be able to play the game because i wouldn't be able to see
(hi yes i am the friend Joey was talking about)

[craggy pier]

Aussie

[lunar rain]

Is it just the load in screen that bothers you or are there levels that cause it as well?

[past star]

Only other thing you can do is mess around with game/hud settings, or make/find a mod like @ocean spindle mentioned

[fierce nebula]

otherwise I think the HUD can be outright disabled but I'm not sure how that will go at all

[hard mantle]

loading screen only :)

[past star]

Close eyes during loading screen

[hard mantle]

and the objective hud thingy

[lunar rain]

Isn’t there a way to skip the load in inject thing in the settings?

[hard mantle]

namely the flashing white box that comes up

[ocean spindle]

i think in the options u can hide it, on HUD
or maybe thats pixel effects

[thin oyster]

Aka when the objective updates

[ocean spindle]

does someone know?

[fierce nebula]

I think you can hit the "O" key on your keyboard to bring up the objective

instead of relying on HUD

[hard mantle]

i'll give that a shot

[fierce nebula]

but HUD needs to be turned off

[ocean spindle]

i mean not necessarily, maybe only that specific part

[craggy obsidian]

^

[ocean spindle]

i dont recall too well but i sweat it could be toned down

like u can hide specific parts

[hard mantle]

i have numerous sight problems so its probably just the harsh white on the dark background that messes with my eyes

i'll try and hide specific parts of the HUD though thank you :)

[icy cave]

It would be better to turn imagine off

[ocean spindle]

killin me in other words

[icy cave]

Not my words

like bruv

[ocean spindle]

well u sai turnin me off

[icy cave]

Bit paranoïd there m8tey

[icy cave]

Has that anything to do with killing?

[ocean spindle]

well yes
how else would u turn me off

am not a machine and can go back on

[icy cave]

Get you so drunk you black out

[ocean spindle]

yeah thats not what u meant makes no sense in context :]
so u wanna disappear me oki

[icy cave]

So paranoïd

Imagine you have to learn to trust people

[icy cave]

except when they use Spear ofc

[ocean spindle]

tbh its just gettin tiresome to hear about spears in every interaction i have with u

[icy cave]

my apologies

[ocean spindle]

its oki its just maybe bein too much time here n hearin about it constantly

[icy cave]

welcome to gtfo. where we have the same discussions every week

I think friday we have planned: "checkpoints, good or bad?"

Ok I stop 😅

[fierce nebula]

checkpoints would be fine if they were limited

[icy cave]

wait till friday please

[fierce nebula]

damn

[ocean spindle]

no

[latent obsidian]

checkpoints would be fine if we just put markers for them on the rundown screen!!

apart from all the other problems too

[ocean spindle]

i guess it is friday after all

[turbid horizon]

my opinion on checkpoints pretty drastically shifted after playing ALT R2

I feel like they do really encourage brute forcing when even the tiniest bit overused

[fierce nebula]

I think I'll feel this more once R4 and R5 release

[turbid horizon]

I feel like CP's would be better off in places that are hard to reach and take a significant amount of time to reach

[latent obsidian]

out of your way?

[turbid horizon]

because then you have to learn from your mistakes instead of trying the same thing over and over

[neon gust]

checkpoints are getting remove people

you guys living in the past

[turbid horizon]

nah not out of the way, more like..

[latent obsidian]

is that you in your picture?

[turbid horizon]

A1 is a really short mission and probably didn't need CP at all

[fierce nebula]

did you support checkpoints lmao

[turbid horizon]

IMO if you needed the CP to beat A1 you didn't learn what you were supposed to from the mission

idk I've just seen a lot of brute forcing since R7 dropped

[fierce nebula]

"big guy punches harder"

[turbid horizon]

like there are some that should exist

[neon gust]

yes but just look at how the devs are doing stuff

clearly there getting rid of checkpoints

because in all honesty the game just runs waaayy better

and its legit no bugs

[turbid horizon]

like on a long level like deeper R4/5 levels I feel like they'd be useful to prevent having to redo the same 2 hours over and over

[robust field]

???

sure the alt rundowns don't have them but that's probably a matter of laziness more than anything

[turbid horizon]

but only in later segments where you've passed difficult alarms/sequences to get there

[neon gust]

with how they adjusting difficulty and remaking the levels

theres no need for checkpoints

[turbid horizon]

oh ._.

ic ur point

[neon gust]

you cannot have just one section of the game with cp and the other one doesnt

it makes no sense kekw

they just streamlining everything

so theres no need for them

[robust field]

I don't think this would stop them

[turbid horizon]

I feel like they're applicable in certain levels

[neon gust]

eehh nothing that some level design changes wont fix

most likely some section will be shorter

like r4e1 stealth if only doing main only

[turbid horizon]

like R6C2 I feel deserved it's CP

[neon gust]

r5e1 might use smaller rooms setup

[turbid horizon]

R6C3's was a cool idea but it killed the dad

I feel like they could absolutely be integrated well

[neon gust]

r6c2 was cell with the terminals that lower fog right?

[turbid horizon]

yeah, Blind

had the 3 hybrid error on EX

[neon gust]

aaaaaahhh

[turbid horizon]

:)

that level

[neon gust]

now i remember

nah it wasnt that bad

just seed the hybrid alarm to always spawn from the back

theyre set

sniper guy wont get shit spawn on top

[turbid horizon]

bruh why tho afaik it always spawned from behind anyway

[neon gust]

they set to spawn always 2 rooms away from the back of the players

so if you split you can have hybrids spawn on top of you

[turbid horizon]

oh ig what u mean

[neon gust]

instead of seeding the spawn to spawn on a room itself

[turbid horizon]

didn't they seed to a room in R6D3?

with the main error?

[neon gust]

yes

but those are seeded to the spawn at elevator

so directly on spawn

[turbid horizon]

oh I was talking ab the open zone door

[neon gust]

the shadows

?

[turbid horizon]

I thought the shadows always spawned in that room

[neon gust]

they do

[turbid horizon]

oh ok that isn't elevator, sorry was confused

[neon gust]

you said error from main i forgot they where like 2

the first one with normal enemies then the shadow

[tardy ingot]

it was actually worse in r6

[turbid horizon]

yeah the OVL error was regular sleepers

[turbid horizon]

ig bc so many ppl brute forced the final R7C1 cp and I was playing during initial drop

[neon gust]

but overall they can fix r6c2 to be less cancer with fog

[turbid horizon]

I started GTFO over a month after R6 drop

NO

[neon gust]

checkpoint not needed

[turbid horizon]

I liked that level ;-;

I hated it but I also really liked it

[neon gust]

its gonna get streamlined

just like my favorites levels

and you will suffer

[turbid horizon]

[neon gust]

[turbid horizon]

tbh I hope D1 just gets harder, like on tier with other D levels

[neon gust]

hopefully r3 patchnotes says r2b1 class 7 bump to a class 9

how to fix rundown 6

optimize the levels so it actually runs at a good fps

[tardy ingot]

want some dragon?

[turbid horizon]

bruh I never had FPS problems in R6

R7 killed my pc

*laptop

[neon gust]

i dunno man

[tardy ingot]

r6dx

[neon gust]

r6 was kinda dookie on perfomance

^

yeah

[turbid horizon]

ig I never hit staircase of hell

[neon gust]

specially that level lmao

[tardy ingot]

also you werent quite playing then i guess, but r6 had insane checkpoint spam

like... every level

[turbid horizon]

well we did once but it was when that flyer damage bug was in the game

didn't R6A1 have 2 cp while R7A1 had 3

[tardy ingot]

i think the level with the least spam was r6c3, d3 and d4
but mostly cuz the last 2 were hard to reach for spammers

yeah it had 2

[neon gust]

"bug"

it was reported in testing but they just forgor to change

[turbid horizon]

R6D1 had too many yeah

I feel like all the story missions (A1, B1, C1) could've used one less

A1 probably didn't need one at all

wait no A1 had 1 CP

[tardy ingot]

A1 had 2

one after class 2

oh wait

[turbid horizon]

R6A1 had one cp

[tardy ingot]

no you right?

[turbid horizon]

yeah

[fierce nebula]

even R6DX?

[tardy ingot]

that scan with the checkpoint colour

[turbid horizon]

I don't think it needed it

[turbid horizon]

I barely got there but my computer was fine the one time I did

[fierce nebula]

huh

[turbid horizon]

wait R6D1 had 5 CP

bruhve

[ocean spindle]

bruh'd

[tardy ingot]

imo good checkpoint spots were
R6C1 before t scan room
R6D1 after reactor and before boss
R6DX before uplink

[turbid horizon]

BRUH the R6C1 tscan cp better be there

I love just jumping into the pit and Cping

[tardy ingot]

just jump and dont die

cuz you were at 61

[turbid horizon]

i don't think I had a single non CP clear of that level bc we always took the leap

yeah D1 should prolly have 2

B1 could use the one in the fog ig

helps people figure out split zones

[tardy ingot]

they already shouldve in A1

[turbid horizon]

well yes but also B1's split zone is a lot mor epunishing then doing both in A1

[tardy ingot]

it is also... a b tier

[turbid horizon]

true

I think B2's on EX was a good one

but I feel like if they did that they should've restricted bulkhead key access

[lusty bramble]

R3 patch notes

• added ALT://Rundown 3 with 7 expeditions
  Weapon changes
• added rifle
• added burst cannon
• added hel gun
• added hel rifle
• precision rifle
  Increased reload time

[ocean spindle]

• precision rifle
  precision

rifle

[tardy ingot]

• decreased Magazine capacity

[fierce nebula]

R6D1 was stupid easy

[lusty bramble]

Precision
Rifle

[ocean spindle]

preci
sion
ri
fle

[neon gust]

Not far from reality

[upper ginkgo]

• Fixed audio bug (again)

[lusty bramble]

Oops there goes gravity

[ocean spindle]

tru,
they need to add
the weaopns

curious

[neon gust]

-Fix directional footsteps on giants

HA

never

............

[fierce nebula]

-Fix orange empty locker bug

[lusty bramble]

Added directional footsteps bug to smalls

[ocean spindle]

whats directional footsteps

[neon gust]

-Fix bots logic on alarms

[ocean spindle]

they logic well

[lusty bramble]

Spitter audio bug is now fixed but it will randomly reoccur to a single person

[turbid horizon]

Oh yeah and I really hope R6C3 uses the music it originally did. The track was perfect for it

[upper ginkgo]

your ability to hear footsteps is tied to LOS or something like that

don't correct me if it's wrong

[ocean spindle]

to loss
I lI
Il l_

oki no, whats LOS

[upper ginkgo]

line of s_____

spin the wheel

choose a letter

[tardy ingot]

u

[ocean spindle]

p

[upper ginkgo]

err

[neon gust]

-added new sleeping sound for regular mom

[ocean spindle]

would be cool

[neon gust]

everybody was asking for that since r3

like they change Pmom sound

for no fucking reason

[tardy ingot]

pmom = cool

[neon gust]

because only in r7 you see her actually sleeping

[tardy ingot]

normal mom = stay the same

[neon gust]

meanwhile there like 5 instances of a regular mom sleeping

[turbid horizon]

Bro imagine a scout model update. We have whatever tech they used for snatcher

[ocean spindle]

what would change

[turbid horizon]

Idk, something that incorporates the tentacles into it’s model so it isn’t slightly larger shooter

[dry pumice]

I would love that

[neon gust]

Well they did improve the charger model

they can easily change scout models

[ocean spindle]

ohh yeh
like a different head

[dry pumice]

Yeeeeees

[turbid horizon]

Yeah or little tentacles all over it

[dry pumice]

The head is just a bunch of tentacles curled into a ball

And it's all wiggly

[ocean spindle]

oh yuck
i love it

i hate it

its perfect

[spice ridge]

how many runs are you expected to do through #lfg-beginners before you can go to a real game

because im struggling to find a game there, nobody seems to want to run R1A1

[midnight gazelle]

none

you can go to the normal channels whenever you want

[turbid horizon]

There’s no requirement or anything, it’s just a place for new players and people who want to teach them

[ocean spindle]

also tbf its wenedsay morning

people are doin things

work or study

[midnight gazelle]

imagine having a life

[dry pumice]

Pretty much. Lfg beginners is for either playing with other beginners or having a little veteran Ted talk with no carrying

[ocean spindle]

never carry anyone

[dry pumice]

If you can wait uh... 1 hour I could join you.

[turbid horizon]

Yes it’s midday/morning in NA/EU which is where the majority of playerbase tends to reside

[dry pumice]

10 minutes until my shift ends and then 30 to get home and 20 to get gtfo running with some coffee

[icy cave]

welcome to the club breddah

[turbid horizon]

I still think a few should exist, but yeah, it made me realize how easy it was to just CP retry

[icy cave]

At least your eyes are opened

[midnight gazelle]

I havent liked checkpoints from day 1 and I still don't like them

[turbid horizon]

I think they can be a benefit in certain places

[icy cave]

From now on you walk in the light !!

[midnight gazelle]

nah, the whole point of the game is to be a "hardcore" experience

Adding checkpoints undermines that

[turbid horizon]

But having them in A1 is unnecessary imo, leads to people not learning where they should be

I think it can still be hardcore with a few cp

[midnight gazelle]

disagree

[turbid horizon]

Ok, that’s fine

[midnight gazelle]

GTFO has been significantly easier imo since checkpoints were added

[dry pumice]

1e1 could really use one

[midnight gazelle]

You mean R2E1?, I dont think R1 had a E1

[dry pumice]

Yes, that.

[turbid horizon]

Is that the checkpoints or the levels though?

[dry pumice]

The little surge hell

[midnight gazelle]

Probably both however there have been several times where I managed to beat a level in one go due to checkpoints

[midnight gazelle]

surge hell :)

I love surge alarms

It's like R4E1

The agonizing pain of having to do two S1 slarms

[turbid horizon]

I don’t think well placed cp’s will make the game easier, just more convenient for people who do not have as much time (eg R6D3). My group used the only checkpoint in that level to practice reactor startups without having to go through the hour long process before it

Some people just don’t have as much time to put into this game as others but also enjoy it and want to play the harder levels

[midnight gazelle]

sounds like a skill issue tbh

[spice ridge]

my friends and i tried the game during the free weekend last year, we completed the first mission and it was kinda fun. then we immediately tried the 2nd mission, went throiugh it for like 3 hours and died on the finale. realized the checkpoint system is really scuffed, uninstalled and never came back

[midnight gazelle]

just have more time

[midnight gazelle]

lmao

[ocean spindle]

u got a bug didnt u

[midnight gazelle]

That's another thing. Checkpoint is broken asf

[turbid horizon]

I don’t think R1 needed any CP’s, the levels are all short

[spice ridge]

we had a circle thing that was moving, and we werent prepared for something like that

also iirc we had 1 bot with us so that wasnt helping either

[midnight gazelle]

I can agree that there are a few levels where I can see where a single checkpoint is necessary however not all of the levels need them

[ocean spindle]

the door said alarm u shouldve thought of everythin :]

[midnight gazelle]

Like the kraken level

[turbid horizon]

Oh yeah I agree with that

[dry pumice]

And 7a1 definetely doesn't need fucking 2

[spice ridge]

it was the 2nd time we played, next time ill know that an alarm means a spaceship is going to nuke me from orbit and not bother raising it

[dry pumice]

Or was it 3

[midnight gazelle]

But if I see a checkpoint in ALT R4E1 imma be pissed off

[turbid horizon]

Yeah Kraken, D3, R6C2; just really long, time intensive levels

[ocean spindle]

two

[midnight gazelle]

Nah I liked R6C2 with no checkpoints

Or was it R5C2

uhh

[turbid horizon]

Honestly I could see a use for one in R4E1 extreme but it won’t happen

[midnight gazelle]

no

[turbid horizon]

I don’t think it should be there tho

[midnight gazelle]

no checkpoint for R4E1 at all

[turbid horizon]

It’s R4E1, yeah

[midnight gazelle]

I dont care if it takes 3.5 hours to complete

It's a part of the experience

man now i wanna play R4E1

i miss the pain of grinding R4E1 all day while being sleep deprived

[turbid horizon]

I honestly hope the level is as difficult as it was

[midnight gazelle]

Honestly, they are probably gonna have to nerf the level a bit due to stamina existing now

The first part of the level kinda required the infinite stamina

[turbid horizon]

really? I thought it was completable w/o kiting?

[midnight gazelle]

uhh

[turbid horizon]

Oh the dad error

[midnight gazelle]

yeah

Plus extreme sector

[turbid horizon]

mmm right hybrid bonk

[midnight gazelle]

You had to kite for the most part

[turbid horizon]

You think they’ll replace Shadow scouts with Cscouts?

[midnight gazelle]

That would be interesting yeah

Keep the vets on their toes

[turbid horizon]

I’m honestly more interested in KDS Deep

That level looks cracked

[midnight gazelle]

In my experience, KDS Deep was easier than R4E1

[turbid horizon]

Looks more fun imo

[midnight gazelle]

I finished KDS Deep in 3 attempts

Agreed

It was

[turbid horizon]

From what I’ve seen of it

Probably bc of skill creep

Also R4E1 hard, but skill creep was probably involved

[midnight gazelle]

It wasn’t as difficult as R4E1 but it was still really challenging

Skill creep?

[turbid horizon]

Player skill increasing

[midnight gazelle]

Ah

It could be yeah

[turbid horizon]

R7 was way easier for my crew than R6

Skill creep

If we went back I’m sure it’d be different

[midnight gazelle]

I started in R3 but I didn’t play it too much. I grinded R4D2 a lot

[turbid horizon]

Ah the funny fog level

Growth seems cool

I love that it had all 3 obj on one DC

[midnight gazelle]

Yeah, it made things pretty interesting

One thing that I didn’t like too much about R4 was that they almost always had an error alarm after completion of extreme/overload

It got tiring and uninteresting

[turbid horizon]

Yeah hopefully they change that

[midnight gazelle]

“Oh look at that, another error”

[neon gust]

imagine thinking they made r4e1 around kiting

[turbid horizon]

I had hoped that the levels would be more remixes than copied

[neon gust]

[midnight gazelle]

KDS Deep was interesting because you had several errors that could be turned off

[neon gust]

thye dont have to nerf the levle

they have to buff it

[turbid horizon]

Like still close to OG but with twists

[neon gust]

r4e1 extreme needs better wave composition for the reactor waves

[midnight gazelle]

That’s what I originally thought the alternates wouldve been

[spice ridge]

whats a good special to pair with revolver primary

[turbid horizon]

The hybrids on R1C1 was like the closest I think we got, and R2C1’s main bulk

[midnight gazelle]

Carbine prob. Idk, i dont use revolver much

Im more of a choke mod person

[neon gust]

machine gun, combat shotgun

anything really

hel revo its too good

[midnight gazelle]

Oh hel rev

[tiny tundra]

Hel rev pairs with basically everything yea

[midnight gazelle]

I thought he meant the normal revolver

Lmao

[turbid horizon]

Regular rev

And hel rev

Doit

[midnight gazelle]

Lmao

[turbid horizon]

Dual wield

[tiny tundra]

I've done it a few times
Both guns are good and work well together

[midnight gazelle]

Hel rev and burst cannon

[tiny tundra]

Burst cannon

[turbid horizon]

O_o

[midnight gazelle]

Auto-pistol and burst cannon

[turbid horizon]

In a few weeks (i hope)

[midnight gazelle]

Best duo

[lusty bramble]

You keep this up I'm removing the no hipfire spread of the bullpup

[neon gust]

you keep this up and ill make bullpup with 30 bullets and a shitty 1.1 pres buff

[lusty bramble]

🥰🥰🥰

That's it, I'm removing the .01 damage from the shotgun

The rng makes the experience more exciting 🥰

[spice ridge]

so if i got lets say hel revo + machinegun, when do i use which gun

[midnight gazelle]

I like the slower fire-rate one

[spice ridge]

revo for range and machinegun for close range?

[turbid horizon]

Hel revo good for lineups

[dry pumice]

Frankly it's the opposite

[turbid horizon]

Oh right mg go brrr

[neon gust]

alternate between them, you have to pay attention to your ammo %

[spice ridge]

i tried to matchmake with randoms ingame and we died within 3 minutes lol

[turbid horizon]

I forgor

[dry pumice]

You fire the machine gun first then switch to revolver instead of reloading

[midnight gazelle]

matchmaking is bad, dont use

[neon gust]

specials recieve more ammo than primaries so you wanna use your special a lot more

[dry pumice]

Special ammo usage always takes priority unless you literally can't

[neon gust]

by special i mean your machinegun

[turbid horizon]

For me, that’s why hel shot + mg feels so nuts i think

[dry pumice]

Dual pistol loadout is low key my favorite

The tacticool infiltrator feel alone

[turbid horizon]

It’s high noon

Oh wait pistol

[hardy grotto]

double revo goes crazy

[turbid horizon]

It’s high caliber

[dry pumice]

It's murica'

[lusty bramble]

You should use the smg and the arbalist

[dry pumice]

SLAMBANG

[lusty bramble]

It kills every enemy in the game easily

600 dps

[midnight gazelle]

use the secret grenade launcher

[turbid horizon]

I liked burst rifle and scattergun in R6

[lunar rain]

I just use hammer

[dry pumice]

I feel like something ain't right with those suggestions

[neon gust]

I just use spear

[midnight gazelle]

Same but the burst rifle now doesn't feel as good as it did in R6

[lunar rain]

I can’t be seen with you anymore sorry

[turbid horizon]

Yeah :(

BR just feels less spicy

[midnight gazelle]

I use carbine now

[lusty bramble]

The smg and arbalist is basically the r4 hel revo burst cannon load out for current build

[turbid horizon]

I was so excited for it to come back but it feels meh now

[neon gust]

thats because they buff the shit out of the carabine for no reason

[dry pumice]

I felt no difference. What changed?

[turbid horizon]

Ig i touch carbine once

[hardy grotto]

veruta enjoyers stay losing

[turbid horizon]

And br feels bad

[dry pumice]

It felt okay to me

[turbid horizon]

veruta is fun, just kinda powerful rn

[neon gust]

carabine needs to get nerf

[lusty bramble]

They need to nerf the smg back to 1.7 damage

It really felt like a run through a1 kind of weapon back then

[turbid horizon]

Machine pistol felt pretty nice

[hardy grotto]

idk guys, i think they need to buff sniper

[turbid horizon]

I hadn’t touched it that much in r6 but it felt really good in alt

[turbid horizon]

They might have to in alt R6 unless they nerf burrito

[neon gust]

no

[turbid horizon]

Oh wait alpha 1 has 1 billion ammo

[neon gust]

yes

[dry pumice]

R6 UZI got me through Ds

[neon gust]

just go get ammo

for the boss fight

[hardy grotto]

i think sniper should one shot bigs on body

[lusty bramble]

The smg really shines in the boss fight

[hardy grotto]

TRUE

[turbid horizon]

me when Woops

[lusty bramble]

They should revert the sniper back to its r3 rendition

[neon gust]

just balance the game around chargers

so it becomes way easier

duh

[lusty bramble]

Killing bigs from the front is way too overpowered

[turbid horizon]

it has 12 bullets

[lusty bramble]

Sniper should only be able to kill bigs with an occipital shot

[hardy grotto]

beep thats what the hel shotgun is for

[lusty bramble]

Oh you're right my bad

[neon gust]

give every gun pen

so i can bitch at my teammates

when they accidentally shoot me

[dry pumice]

Warframe pre aoe meta be like

[lusty bramble]

I'm going to penetrate tu madre

[neon gust]

Want me to teach you how to shoot in b4b again

[lusty bramble]

🥰🥰😍😍

[neon gust]

lack of skill looking ass

[lusty bramble]

You going to be staring at the scenery again?

[neon gust]

yes

🥹

[lusty bramble]

I will force you to kite the r4e1 alt reactor

[neon gust]

I rather die

[hardy grotto]

spear kite the r4e1 alt reactor

[turbid horizon]

Isn’t the R4E1 wave mostly smalls?

[neon gust]

i wanna go back to the r4 days and be called an elitist for telling people to shoot alarms again

good days

[turbid horizon]

._. hello

[hardy grotto]

why would u shoot in this game

[turbid horizon]

bruh why tho

[hardy grotto]

that makes too much sense tho

[midnight gazelle]

I remember the surge alarms in R4E1 to be pretty intense and drains a lot of your ammo

[turbid horizon]

was it really that bad?

[neon gust]

no

it never was

[turbid horizon]

I meant ex reactor waves

[midnight gazelle]

oh

meh

[turbid horizon]

Cuz thinking ab knife

[neon gust]

people just had a really shitty perception of what this game was back then

the "aura" of the game been borderline impossible to win without X thing was big back in EA

[turbid horizon]

oh like kiting and such

[lusty bramble]

You're screaming at clouds old man

[neon gust]

yes

and i like it

[lusty bramble]

People just switched to cfoaming ladders

Nothing has changed

[neon gust]

outdated

now its door glitch

[tiny tundra]

Remember when they fixed door glitch so glad it doesn't work anymore and was fixed haha

[turbid horizon]

They fixed one iirc

[midnight gazelle]

which door glitch

[tiny tundra]

They fixed one method

[midnight gazelle]

which one dumbass

[lusty bramble]

That's no way to talk to your mother

[tiny tundra]

The one where enemies treat broken doors as closed ones, bit rude tho lol

[midnight gazelle]

oh i just recently learned about that one

so i never used it

[midnight gazelle]

cry

[tiny tundra]

They fixed the c-foam method, you can still do it tho

[neon gust]

damn its like theres different methods of achieving a bug or something

[tardy ingot]

also prob the weirdest bug to cry about

since it doesnt happen randomly

its litteraly a bug that you have to go out of your way for

[turbid horizon]

I feel like cheating in this game ruins the point for yourself

[lusty bramble]

Not the "you have to go out of your way to do it" argument again

[neon gust]

yep

[tiny tundra]

It's still lame to see people default to it since it does make levels considerably easier

[midnight gazelle]

bugs are funny but i only use them after I beat the level first time

[tardy ingot]

"considerably easier" it litteraly makes the threat next to nonexistent in most levels

[neon gust]

its like people like cheese or something

[turbid horizon]

Like the whole point of playing GTFO is to conquer levels

[tardy ingot]

and bugs being an out of your way thing and staying isnt rly something new to gtfo

[turbid horizon]

Ig clout goes a long way

[soft crater]

Imean. My group CONQUERED R7D2 with the Bot last alive

[turbid horizon]

For me, knowing i beat a level with cheese would be so much less rewarding than knowing I beat it straight up

[tiny tundra]

I agree yea

[lusty bramble]

What a1 completion screenshots am I going to be able to hang on my fridge after they add the "cheese spot" "max flyer kite" "cfoam ladder" icons right next to my checkpoint icon

[tiny tundra]

Lol

[lusty bramble]

I'll never get into the GTFOtoxicclique at this rate

[soft crater]

[tardy ingot]

you gotta be more toxic man

[lusty bramble]

You can't out troll AnchorageJC

[neon gust]

we should go back to sharing gtfo regla 3 4

[soft crater]

Some GTFO players are just a DRG Engineer with a Max ammo Cheese launcher

[hardy grotto]

beep is pretty toxic, he held me at spearpoint and forced me to run precision rifle, he was rambling about something along the lines of burst cannon being op

[soft crater]

based

[lusty bramble]

They basically added the burst cancel as a weapon

[soft crater]

Not toxic

I just want my Maul Cosmetic back

[upper ginkgo]

when r9 comes out

[soft crater]

When Alt R6 is GTFO 2.0 just be patient

[neon gust]

r3 release be like
all weapons from false to true

[spark wolf]

LARGEST FOAM

[lusty bramble]

You just took my joke you Spanish bastard

[soft crater]

[lusty bramble]

The largest of ladders require the strongest of foams

[neon gust]

but better cuz im hispanic

[soft crater]

But it isnt as strong as 4 bios

[spark wolf]

when u ping just 1 dude, he takes triple damage

[tiny tundra]

Too low needs buff tbh

[mossy aurora]

Single ads ping coming back?

[lusty bramble]

People be like "I'm a bio knife main" and proceed to not use either for the entire duration of the level

[soft crater]

Make the bios stack meaning 4x 3x dmg

[tiny tundra]

This guy gets it

[hardy grotto]

dont worry, thats what the pdw is for

[spark wolf]

pdw mains when u tell them they cann just use their eyes without being zoomed in x10

[mossy aurora]

"you guys are need to protect me for this alarm I'm going to focus on pinging"

[soft crater]

Now we combine this with a IIX syringe Spear Charge to a BABY Striker Occi

[upper ginkgo]

proceeds to do nothing during 8 second cooldown 💀

[lusty bramble]

Pdw is made for people who are born with awooga eyes

[mossy aurora]

It's when I tab out to gtfo chat and read what Peter types

[soft crater]

When I've met 2 people who religiously defended Knife.

[tiny tundra]

Something about it feels better to use them SMG so I prefer PDW even tho numerically iirc they're extremely similar lol

[upper ginkgo]

correcting misinformation 🫡

[soft crater]

PDW is more like Machine pistol imo but with a damage per shot similar to AR

[lusty bramble]

I'm writing a parody of Franz Kafkas "Metamorphosis" but instead of waking up as a roach and going to work it's waking up as a part of the GTFOToxicClique and receiving a modmail message

What even is the full image of that emote

[neon gust]

[lusty bramble]

Don't post robocock

[spark wolf]

[lusty bramble]

It's not the first thing I see when I launch gtfo

[spark wolf]

top tier vid

[lusty bramble]

He's really fallen off since then

Not a tool part 5 in sight

[spark wolf]

true

review the unreleased tools

pls

they will be in R8 anyway

for sure

[neon gust]

so heres the nano swarm

[lusty bramble]

What are your thoughts on the geotracker replacing the nanoswarm

[neon gust]

you wish

[lusty bramble]

Any new thoughts on the remote terminal?

Could it replace the biotracker?

[neon gust]

mccad did really well

[spark wolf]

mccad died of ligma

no more bug fixes ever again

[neon gust]

pls play chrysalis

[spark wolf]

but easternunit @neon gust

[neon gust]

he got depression due to the state of the game

[lusty bramble]

Hello have you heard of samdown

[spark wolf]

have you heard of cuna

[weary mesa]

Wtf is a samdown

[spice ridge]

do turrets deal friendly fire danage

[weary mesa]

Sounds like someone named sam is getting pounded

[neon gust]

yes

[ocean spindle]

yes but they will not shoot u

only if an enemy is in front of the sentry

[neon gust]

dont do my man like that

[spice ridge]

so you always want to set turrets in such a way that they are aiming away from where you plan to stand huh

[spark wolf]

not wronng

[ocean spindle]

yep
if u put one like behind u and it sees an enemy and ur in front
those bullets gonna hit u

[weary mesa]

Dagon is changing his stance on CP or is this bait

Dagon that dragons name now btw

[dry pumice]

His BP shall cost 1700

[weary mesa]

2700

[round bronze]

how to i ping sleepers?

the ones that don't move

[weary mesa]

You don't

[spark wolf]

you're not supposed to be able to

[ocean spindle]

u cant

we are powerless. we are powerless

[mossy aurora]

Shoot in the room then u can ping them

[spark wolf]

you can ping them if you foamed them once

[spice ridge]

whats the best bot loadout

[turbid horizon]

they do really well with hel revo or burst rifle on primary, and Techman Veruta XII for secondary

melee is irrelevant

[neon gust]

https://www.reddit.com/r/GTFO/comments/ru9sdb/a_guide_and_informational_post_for_bots_in_gtfo/

[spice ridge]

thanks

[craggy pier]

i think they're pretty good with the Bataldo Model 8 and the Malatack CH 4

[neon gust]

its slightly outdated but still relevant

[craggy pier]

the Malatack LX is pretty good too

[neon gust]

but best loadout its that its cheap to maintain them with its assault rifle primary and special the machinegun veruta

its in the guide itself also

[spice ridge]

bots should bring 2 turrets + 1 mine?

[turbid horizon]

they're cracked with bio

[spice ridge]

3 bio scanners? or 1 is enough

[turbid horizon]

no no just 1 tbh

never more tha n1 bio

[spice ridge]

ok so that means i dont need to bring my own...

[turbid horizon]

except maybe R6D3

you can choose tbh

[spice ridge]

so i can do 1 bot with bio, 1 turret, 1 mine

and then i choose whether i bring turret or foam i guess?

[turbid horizon]

you can learn to use bio as well, just letting u know bots are kinda cracked with it

[tardy ingot]

cheating*

bot with bio is (usually) better than a player

but to learn the game using it yourself is better

tbf playing with 3 bots probably isnt the best way to play eitherway

[spice ridge]

ive been looking at #lfg-eastern-europe #lfg-western-europe and #lfg-beginners for a while, nobody ever does R1A1

so im losing faith

[spark wolf]

bot deniers

[turbid horizon]

you can probably clear it by yourself, but you could also make your own lfg post

[tardy ingot]

Have you done a lfg post yourself?

[spice ridge]

not yet, ill try tomorrow its getting too late now

[lusty oar]

How do i join a game through the unique identifier? Where do i place the code?

[spark wolf]

you just copy it and then a new button will show onn the left of the rundown menu

[lusty oar]

thank you, i figured it out

[steady swift]

are the bots supposed to just completely ignore security scans

[icy cave]

Bug

[steady swift]

my run was just completely ruined because dauda decided to just completely ignore the full team scan

I hate dauda

first he sprays the wall with c foam when I clearly said to put it on the door and now he just ignores the scan

[icy cave]

tbh the sooner you switch to human teammates the better 😅

[steady swift]

the problem is that none of my friends want to play gtfo

and the few that do dont have the money

[icy cave]

Lfg channels m8. #lfg-beginners

#how-to-matchmake

👍

[steady swift]

I dont really want to play with randoms though

[icy cave]

that's absolutely fine

[fierce nebula]

if you talk enough in this server maybe a friend passes your way

[icy cave]

But fair warning: you can NOT finish the game solo with bots (LEGIT)

[ocean spindle]

are bots ignorin scans like related to playin with more than a person or somethin? why do i never have it?

it happens on final scans

and thats it

[icy cave]

It's a bug that happens sometimes. R7C2 starting alarm is infanous with this. You can just kick the bot, do alarm scans, re add bot

[ocean spindle]

maybe i just havrnt played the right levels

might be very prone to happen on r7

[icy cave]

But it's not bugs that prevent you from soloing this game.

Bots lack the AI to do R7E1. like they just can't. R7D1 is also pure RNG solo.

[willow dragon]

bots and big things dont mix

[icy cave]

And also there are 3 levels that even the best gtfo players have not managed to solo legit

[fierce nebula]

theres levels where the "work together or die together" really comes into play

[weary mesa]

Woah woah woah DJ you're downplaying. You're going to upset Cranium Crack Shot

[spark wolf]

literally 1984

[icy cave]

Even he did not do it legit.

[weary mesa]

WaytooBased

[soft crater]

Based

[steady swift]

when rundown 8

[lunar rain]

why rundown 8

[icy aspen]

I'm still extremely new to the game but why is it so hard to get in a matchmake?

[craggy pier]

nobody uses matchmaking read #how-to-matchmake channel and make a LFG post in ur respective region or in #lfg-beginners

[icy aspen]

Oh I see. Thanks for helping me

[supple lion]

Does anyone know if the devs are working on a console version if you have an answer please ping me

[ocean spindle]

they are not

terminal wouldnt work on console

[supple lion]

Yea your right

[ocean spindle]

too many things to change too

[supple lion]

Thanks

[spice ridge]

oh, this is as far as i got with my friends during the free weekend, we didnt have someone to guide us like this so we just got our asses kicked and uninstalled lol https://youtu.be/FT38Ac91Fmk?t=2423 -- is there list a little list explaining some key moments like that, with minimal spoilers? because i rather get spoiled a little bit, than spend 2-3 hours going through a mission only to get wiped

[ocean spindle]

lemme speedrun the vid n ill see

[spice ridge]

timestamp is right there no need to speedrun

[ocean spindle]

oh thought u made the video lmao

but like whatcha askin for? moments like those on the levels of R1?

[spice ridge]

moments like those on every level

so we dont end up spending like 2-3 hours doing a mission only to get wiped by a mechanic we arent prepared for

im ok with that but i know my friends will just say F it and uninstall again lol

[weary mesa]

what do you mean

The moving scan?

[ocean spindle]

... thats not happenin
not only cause theres like 27 levels, which, is too many
but cause first of R1 is easier than R7, this game just depends on surprises to work

along the fact that if arent prepared always ur doin somethin wrong

[fierce nebula]

I always blindly play every level and after I finish the level I wipe it from my memory

[weary mesa]

GTFO is based off of failing and improving by doing the whole mission again until you beat it when you've gotten better

[ocean spindle]

if ur friends jusr arent willin to accept that they are gonna fail, cause everyone has failed on the last minute of a mission

this just might not be the game for em

[unborn geode]

When will the next sale or free weekend be?

[spice ridge]

isnt it on sale now

[unborn geode]

Don't think so

[spice ridge]

right its not

it was on sale yesterday

[unborn geode]

oh damn

[spice ridge]

it was 20% off

i bought it for 42% off from a key website because steam games are overpriced in my region

screw you gaben you hear me

[sacred bobcat]

whos tryna link up

bought the game today

need a team to run it with

[unborn geode]

any hope of a free weekend soon?

[soft crater]

doubt it

there was a free weekend several months ago last year

[sage belfry]

There were never a free weekend, except for when the game goes 1.0

[soft crater]

the buggy ass 1.0

[sage belfry]

And that's probably the only free weekend, for a long time atleast.

[sage belfry]

I honestly prefer buggy then unoptimized

So yeah i hate how unoptimized R7 is

[fierce nebula]

yeah R6 may have bugs but R7 was both buggy and laggy

[soft crater]

R7D1 be like

also R6 was laggy as well

[fierce nebula]

shoves extended off "what lag"

[ocean spindle]

uh its too late but

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[craggy pier]

can you go back to telling people how armour multi matters for pellet or burst weapons for mom kills

i prefer that ztriw more

[weary mesa]

Sure

[icy cave]

did you angery him?

[weary mesa]

[vague coyote]

how do u unlock r3 r4 r5 and r6?

[willow harbor]

play until they re release them

[vague coyote]

ı cant play rn?

[willow harbor]

not on the official gtfo afaik

[spice ridge]

how different are Alt R1 and Alt R2 from R1 and R2

they probably tweaked some stuff, its like 4 years apart

[willow harbor]

I didn't play original r1 and only played r2 for like a week before r3 started so i'm not sure, r2d2 seems really similar though

[icy cave]

Not very

They are basically the same as OG but nerfed a bit

[vague coyote]

is there gonna be a re relase?

[icy cave]

Yes like Brenno said

We got Alt r2 in december

[willow harbor]

r3 r4 r5 and r6 are planned for re release, and then r8 afaik

[icy cave]

Alt R3 will be like end feb or march

[icy cave]

But you just started worry about finishing R1 and R2 first 😅

[vague coyote]

i finished r1

today r2

[icy cave]

I doubt in a day. unless carried hard

R1 is fast tho

R3 as well, that's just an afternoon of playtime

I want R4 and R5 back 😭

[fierce nebula]

R1 is possible in 2hrs if at least one pro to carry

but R2 that is interesting

[tardy ingot]

Actually nerfed:
R2B1, R2C2, R2D1

Changed: (buffed and nerfed)
R2D2, R2E1

But overall players got better aswell as the tools/guns they use

[tardy ingot]

yeah the whole thing being able to be done below 1 hour. 1/3rd of that being r1c1… is kinda telling about r1

[fierce nebula]

R6 is possible in 30 minutes

[mossy aurora]

surprise alt r6 release in 30 min?

[tardy ingot]

r6c3

[tardy ingot]

[icy cave]

Yeah so overall nerfed

[tardy ingot]

tbf most of it is just layout being slightly better (see r2b1 doors) and r2d1 not having giga fucked enemy distribution

[icy cave]

Yes but nerfed 😅

[tardy ingot]

Alt r1 is a buffed og r1

specifically c1/d1

[craggy pier]

and R2 is nerfed

sadge

[tardy ingot]

the guns/working tools and higher knowledge have more impact anyway

[tardy ingot]

dont overestimate the nerfs

The only level thats actually way different is r2d1
R2E1 is similar in difficulty. The last error zone is a huge diff compared to before tho

[fierce nebula]

it's definitely a lot to do with overall player skill increasing
but not the only thing

[craggy pier]

I heard original E1 had shadow "BBC's"

[tardy ingot]

giant shadows back then were all quick

like the current giant shadows that have hybrid pose

they were the same overall (hp/dmg)

funnily. Actual giantd back then were snails

legit moved in slowmotion

[craggy pier]

can't wait till they add shadow babies

[fierce nebula]

shadow pmom

[craggy pier]

[icy cave]

Yeah but buffed tool and guns + less enemies sleeping means overall nerf imo

[tardy ingot]

Also cant believe you didnt play r2e1 witg me yet @craggy pier

smh

[tardy ingot]

thats the game changing

Not the levels

[craggy pier]

msg me when ur free to play

[icy cave]

It still means that Alt R1 is easier than OG R1

[craggy pier]

I finished ||R4||E1 today

[icy cave]

👏

[fierce nebula]

rR4? 😳

[tardy ingot]

I only saw a trio finish it

[craggy pier]

LOLOLOL

ok that screenshot is actually rly funny

I'm not even mad about it

[icy cave]

I saw the clear but there were no names at all on it

[tardy ingot]

tbf i havent finished r4/5 e1 didnt do the funny

[craggy pier]

can you guys please win r4e1

[craggy pier]

how can I kill mom with pellet or burst weapons, the armour multi reduced the damage 😩

[mossy aurora]

[craggy pier]

[mossy aurora]

hecate did u r5e1 yet

[craggy pier]

no

sometime in the near future

I mean when alt r5 comes out

[mossy aurora]

just watch fireblade video and disconnect your mouse and keyboard and pretend you're playing

[fierce nebula]

me submitting my speed run clips like

[spice ridge]

what does this mean exactly https://i.imgur.com/phbLRva.png

is it counting your completions

[icy cave]

exactly that

[spice ridge]

what are the 3 other things though

[icy cave]

secondary, overload, PE

a - means it's not present in that level

[spice ridge]

aha ok

[icy cave]

otherwise it would be a 0

[spice ridge]

and if it existed it wouldve said 0

right

[icy cave]

But they only appear from R4 and upwards so for now .. don't worry about it

[icy cave]

And otherwise you can see if they there before launching the mission by clicking the level and looking at the sector part of the description. See R7B3 for example

[spice ridge]

those are areas within the mission that are optional and completing them gives you a +1 on the counter? anything else?

[icy cave]

pretty much

except PE. PE is just doing everything in one run

[spice ridge]

whats PE

i understand its completing all 3, but what does it stand for

[icy cave]

The last number is PE, Prisoner Efficiency

[spice ridge]

oh

[icy cave]

And as you will see by clicking on the R7 missions, some have only a secondary and one has only an overload.

[spice ridge]

so the PE thing only exists for missions that have all 3

[icy cave]

correct

[fierce nebula]

^^ doing PE just means you did overload and secondary

[icy cave]

in one run

[fierce nebula]

main is a given

oh yeah fuck

[spice ridge]

whats the incentive to play the game after youve beat it? i mean its not procedurally generated or random, a finite amount of missions, and theres no RPG-style power grind 🤔

[icy cave]

When you've done everything, so like 500 hours in. that's it

there are challenge runs, like solo or speedruns but otherwise it's basically helping people clear

[spice ridge]

26 missions take that long? holy crap

[latent obsidian]

Depends on if you are getting carried by people you match with

[icy cave]

Nah R1 is like 10 hours

R2 is like 20-30

[latent obsidian]

It might take that long if you have a team of fresh players who stick together

[icy cave]

R7 is 50-100 for new players

But we have R3- R6 coming back

Of which R4 and R5 are the hardest rundowns in the game and have the most content.

And then R8 after that to close off the story and of that one we know .... nothing

[spice ridge]

im trying to convince my friends to get the game, it would be more fun playing with noobs

but its rough theyre not hyped about

[icy cave]

More fun and takes more time

[latent obsidian]

Its a shame if friends lose interest

[icy cave]

Obv if you get hard carried you could get through R1-R7 in like 20 hours

That's how big the difference is really

[latent obsidian]

It might be possible to find other new players and form a playgroup with them

Thats probably the best outcome if your friends aren't interested

[icy cave]

It's interesting how new players often ask why this game is so short, then they tell you they only finished R1.

well

congrats that's the tutorial basically

[latent obsidian]

new content coming soon!

When R4 and R5 is here o boy

People will have their hands full for a bit

hopefully....

[icy cave]

New players for sure

Like R4 and R5 A tier even ...

it's FAR above the rest

It's astonishing really 😅

[latent obsidian]

It should be fine now theres a bunch of easier content

I guess new players probably complained it was too hard

[icy cave]

oooh yeah absolutely

but I mean imagine fresh players going blind on R4A2PE or even better R4A3PE

even tho they did R1-R3

[latent obsidian]

Maybe they shouldn't do PE! 😛

[icy cave]

They'll be like: is this A tier???????

ofc ofc but you know they will 😂😂

[latent obsidian]

Our team would even normally just go for main completions or just one of extreme or overload when learning levels

Not full completion purists like you 😔

Get more playtime like that 🙂 Don't want to eat our steak in one bite

[icy cave]

Man I went R5A2PE blind 😂

from the get go

[spice ridge]

thats a clever way to test your game after releasing it lol

focusing all the playerbase into playing only a fraction of content

and then releasing everything after like 5 years

[craggy pier]

I sure as fuck hope so

R4E1 lfgs are gonna be a nightmare

I guarantee most pub runs die before cell zone

unless they magically nerf it into the floor

😭

[fierce nebula]

nerf to the point where we don't need cells

[craggy pier]

I hope the the level itself stays more or less the same

probably just made easier by better weapons/tools

actually stamina tho

so maybe not

[rough creek]

They should nerf all the sleepers into marketable plushies

[craggy pier]

@rough creek can you send me your discord banner

[rough creek]

Cause I would %100 buy one

[tardy ingot]

@craggy pier when gem?

[craggy pier]

in like 10-15 mins?

do u have other ppl

[fierce nebula]

I would actually consider buying it

I don't like most of the merch shop at the moment

and the glow sticks are so desperate

[rough creek]

I'm not saying the half plush half cardboard shit either

We need the really good plushies

[tardy ingot]

imagine needing other people

…. No i dont

good plushies arent easy

altho, the posters rn are sick

[fierce nebula]

yeah they're nice

[rough creek]

Get on it Calle. Yeah but I want a abusable scout plushie.

[spice ridge]

oh man i found the comms menu, i thought it would actually make the bots do stuff like synchronize lol

but they dont seem to melee at all, just shoot as soon as anything semi-wakes up

[craggy pier]

bot bullets are silent btw

[spice ridge]

oh

ok thats good

the music is false information lol

it starts playing too soon

good idea to disable it? or just take it with a grain of salt

[dry pumice]

I just turned off mine.

Sure, it's nice to be able to tell when the wave is dead but I got tired of having to listen to it when someone bonks a sleeper too fast while sprinting.

And it's more immersive that way.

[spice ridge]

do sleeper wake up if you touch them

sometimes its so dark or foggy i cant see anything lol

[willow harbor]

yes

[craggy pier]

ye

[fierce nebula]

the only negative to having music off is that it's harder to tell if a sleeper is stuck in the wall or not

[craggy pier]

just sprint for 5 seconds and you'll know

[fierce nebula]

true that

the "harder" is to be taken with a grain of salt

[craggy pier]

Voice commands usually are screamed when there's something alive and awake

[spice ridge]

wtf was that sound, sounded like a brick falling off in the distance

almost shit myself

[icy cave]

wear Brown pants

[spice ridge]

yo whats this little red dot https://i.imgur.com/IyJuAbL.png

theres a lot of them now 😮

[icy cave]

Bug

it's basically just a White dot

[spice ridge]

i hate bugs

oh

lol

if you play with 3 bots and die, but theyre alive, can you still get resurrected or is that insta-wipe

[icy cave]

Nah they resurect you

[spice ridge]

great lol

theres like 100 enemies asleep around me. is it a good idea to kill them before moving on, even if they arent directly in my way? or will they stay asleep

like i need to go to 52A to get a thing, and theres a bunch of enemies in 52C, D E etc

[icy cave]

You can do most of thebmissions just fine with bots. It stops tho. at some point it's get a team or quit

[icy cave]

Depends.

If there is an alarm at some point and you need to be shooting close to/in those rooms then they'll all wake up.

If doors are open and shooting in first room next to it

[spice ridge]

yeah i think there will be an alarm. the question if theres a point to killing them, considering an alarm will bring in a horde anyway?

[rough creek]

Yeah

[spice ridge]

to prevent horde+sleepers?

[icy cave]

Do all alarms bring in a horde?

[rough creek]

Yup. You would be dealing with with a horde, a room of enemies, and potentially another horde if you can't finish in time.