gtfo-related-questions

[tacit zealot]

they are

in the files

...

[craggy pier]

I always check the game files to know the correct names for everything

bullrush scout

[icy cave]

He rushes like a bull tho

[craggy pier]

🥹

[icy cave]

Hey they can't be creative they are just devs

[lilac laurel]

Does this game have boss?

[craggy pier]

short answer no

[dry pumice]

There are 3 enemy types that technically count as bosses, but 2 of them are more like minibosses and can be killed in 30 seconds or less and the only real boss is currently not in the game (was removed and will be readded later).

[rugged lance]

Is there a way to get the bots to use turrets ? Or are they only good with the bio scanner

[dry pumice]

Quick voicelines commands.

[rugged lance]

O.o how do you do that

[dry pumice]

Check settings. It's Q for me, but probably custom.

[rugged lance]

Ok ty!

[unkempt ridge]

hey how to unlock the rest of the cosmetics once you complete everything?

[dry pumice]

You can't.
You'll have to wait until next update and more levels to beat.

[mental geyser]

is r8 will be the last rundown?

[icy cave]

probably

[icy cave]

4

[civic wave]

huh, can you not get extra cosmetics from rare RNG drops? I thought you could

[dry pumice]

Clarify?... Oh. Pablo.

[icy cave]

No those are limited events

[icy cave]

Yeah if you count the T you kinda have to count pablo

[civic wave]

oh, could've sworn I've seen people get cosmetics for completing missions they've already done

[icy cave]

Yes during a limited event

[civic wave]

not the limited event cosmetics, but other ones, I trust that you know better than I do though

[icy cave]

Like the devs say: here is a backpack you can unlock only before 25th of february and that one you can get from completing any level

[craggy pier]

If you stretch the definition of "done" to "did main but not secondary/overload" I guess your statement works

[icy cave]

used to work

[craggy pier]

Oh right not anymore since Alt R1, dna's right

[icy cave]

I've done every mission multiple times (looks at R7C1 👀) and there are no RNG drops once everything is done

So we wait for R3 ....

To get 6 more drops

[dry pumice]

Only 6?

[unkempt ridge]

I thought they wouldn't add more content ?

[icy cave]

and as R3 will be easier than R2 ....

[dry pumice]

That sounds... Small.

[latent obsidian]

More than 6 innit mate

[craggy pier]

R3 had 7 maps AFAIK

[dry pumice]

It's complicated.

[latent obsidian]

A3, B2, C1, D1

[icy cave]

7

sorry

[dry pumice]

We are currently in re-release stage of the game.

[icy cave]

miscounted

7 more drops

[dry pumice]

They will bring old content back with face lift, then release the R8 finale.

[icy cave]

@latent obsidian is right

[dry pumice]

And well see from there.

[icy cave]

Alt R3-6 and R8 are still due

[icy cave]

This confirms to me btw that R3 can't be harder than R2 tho.... I can't see it happening

[latent obsidian]

Yeah thats a weird thing for Calle to say

that R3 would be harder

I can't see how when R2 has E1

[unkempt ridge]

I see

[icy cave]

Cause how can a rundown with 5 of the 7 levels being A-B tier be harder than a rundown with 5 C-E tier levels

[latent obsidian]

Yeah I don't understand

[craggy pier]

Got a cheater on live

[latent obsidian]

Maybe they super buff D1?

[latent obsidian]

Oh yea?

[icy cave]

Record and report

[craggy pier]

Doing my best

[icy cave]

Like they'd have to buff D1 absurdly !!!

[icy cave]

DM me the name? cause I think I've seen him around

[icy cave]

Well you got 1 more but yes R3 is VERY small

[fierce nebula]

I mean I think it was teased that R3 might be buffed but given recent trends it'll likely be nerfed to be one of the easiest rundowns

[dry pumice]

Community and devs have different understand of difficulty me thinks.

"I drank coffee, stabbed myself with adrenaline, played at the top of my game and used every trick I know of and completely blasted that level apart.
Game bad!"

[vital sierra]

that do be the gaming community

"alt levels is so easy"
Answer by a player that have 1k hours in the game

[tardy ingot]

Whaaaat. One of the easiest rundowns will be one of the easiest rundowns?

[dry pumice]

Solo hammer only mfs be like "too easy".
Devs: "Damn, HEL revolver reloads so slowly, I almost died there!"

[fierce nebula]

it moves one spot

[tardy ingot]

?

[fierce nebula]

I mean isn't it up to the devs to cater to the skill of the community in the first place

[tardy ingot]

R3 was not easier than R1 and not harder than R6/R2

it should stay the exact same?

[fierce nebula]

but be slightly easier

[dry pumice]

Well have to wait and see.

[ocean spindle]

they talkin of the alt

[vital sierra]

the dev cater to a "level" of skill

and not always look at the 1k hours and stuff and balance around them

[dry pumice]

We'll. Damn it autocorrect, learn English you b~

[tardy ingot]

yeah
But alt r3 wont be either unless they change it up a lot

[vital sierra]

Alternate timeline

R3 become harder than usual

a glitch happen in R4

R4 got a random buff

the tank in C1 become immortal

[tardy ingot]

funny thing
I dont think they can do a single thing outside of legit doubling enemy spawns that would make some people say that the game got harder

[dry pumice]

Oops all bigs

Oops all hybrids

[vital sierra]

copy-paste the enemy spawn from OG to alt

[fierce nebula]

so do you guys want the game harder or easier

[vital sierra]

"man, alt spawn less enemy"|

[dry pumice]

I don't really care as long as its not bullshit hard.

[fierce nebula]

cause it sounds like you guys are wanting it easier while complaining about it being easy

[ocean spindle]

i would like it to be hard but i see despair on these comments

these r broken people lmao

[vital sierra]

no one is complaining right now

[tardy ingot]

i would like the r4/5 system

of early levels being easy. And optionals making them challenging. And late levels being hard and optionals making them harder

[fierce nebula]

gotta pull out my thinking emoji 🤔

[vital sierra]

the sarcastic of this server is astounding tho

[tardy ingot]

i think r7 did that decently well

[vital sierra]

alt level got release with copy-paste enemy spawn from og

[fierce nebula]

this makes the most sense

[vital sierra]

but still say the og spawn more enemy

[tardy ingot]

Theyd still say „alt easier, bad gem“

[past star]

[vital sierra]

i watch a vid yesterday from Coffee Stain Devs

[ocean spindle]

uh uhhh
[thinks]

[vital sierra]

the funny thing is that, their community is similar to this but more friendly

[fierce nebula]

wdym the GTFO community is mostly friendly

[ocean spindle]

we truly are the kindest people
ever

[vital sierra]

they did get the complain about

"a bug didn't get fix for 3 years" = "lazy dev" quote

[solemn flint]

techniclly, we have a class "boss" so by the name boss, yes we have it, but by the definition of what a boss should be, currently no ( i say currently bc we used to have a kraken at r6)

[vital sierra]

so that was inevitable

[craggy pier]

He meant Hugo Boss

plottwist

[ocean spindle]

they meant like the head of the company

[craggy pier]

Ah, yes, the CEO of GTFO

[fierce nebula]

Jeff Bezos obviously

[dry pumice]

It was bald...

[solemn flint]

most friendly hmm, i guess we didnt throw enough new player into r7e1

[ocean spindle]

people makin games be just sleepin

... ngl i- i hated sayin that so much

ah- my heart, not even i can makes those jokes

[manic pecan]

most friendly in Ohio

[craggy pier]

Ohio gozaimasu

[fierce nebula]

GTFO is Ohio simulator but it isn't either

[manic pecan]

fr

[manic pecan]

Hajimemaste, watashi wa kokaido desu

[craggy pier]

Since we're talking about US, why isn't Arkansas pronounced like Kansas but with Ar before

[ocean spindle]

... well ive been mispronouncing it

very gtfo question if u ask me

[craggy pier]

I think it's like the Manchester Leicester thing that British people have

[solemn flint]

wep

that mean we didnt throw enough new in r7e1

we need to throw more of them in

[fierce nebula]

I'd say no but we technically have boss fights, even though there's no bosses, just R6D1 'Kraken' and R7E1 'Boss Baby'
they are more like obstacles than an a full on villain

[turbid horizon]

I think the kraken is definitely a boss fight

I hope the remake adds shockers to the kraken fight

[icy cave]

Spawns only shockers. and same amount as he did flyers

[turbid horizon]

O_O

[fierce nebula]

finally R6 is not as easy

[tardy ingot]

great
Now they get stuck quickly and we dont have to worry about them 🙂

[craggy pier]

Lololol

[icy cave]

they need to do a LOT more to make R6 hard

[tardy ingot]

jokes aside

I think a mix of both and some strikers would make it a lot more fun

[dry pumice]

Oh god no strikers

[ocean spindle]

somethin like r7b3 would be noice
but- not cheeseable

[icy cave]

Ok chargers then

[ocean spindle]

better

[craggy pier]

Add BBC error alarm to every R6 level

[tardy ingot]

wdym r7b3 cheesable

[ocean spindle]

idk i heard it once

[tardy ingot]

unless you mean abusing the bug that gives you overload

for free

[ocean spindle]

idek if its tru

but no i meant secondary

r7b3 datacubes

[mossy aurora]

i think he means the cheese spots for desert

[craggy pier]

I hate the desert part

[ocean spindle]

ah its spots

[fierce nebula]

I always get wrecked by a BBC 😩

[tardy ingot]

people actually found cheese spots for that?

[ocean spindle]

weakling
its great

[tardy ingot]

its fun to shoot that

[icy cave]

yeah roof of the shack

[solemn flint]

tha spot where u dont get bite in the butt

oh yes

[icy cave]

Just shoot flyers and ignore strikers

[craggy pier]

You can sit up on a rock and shoot flyers

[tardy ingot]

…

[ocean spindle]

ah yes the unfunnier option

[icy cave]

thou asked and thou received

[tardy ingot]

i can understand cheesing r6c1 datacubes

Those were just boring

[solemn flint]

is that the same as r7b3 data cube

[tardy ingot]

but r7b3 sec are fun to shoot through

[icy cave]

I did not say it was good to do, I said that's the cheese

[tardy ingot]

you teleport and survive for 50 and 90 sec

but its only flyers

[ocean spindle]

r6c1 was nice but i guess people got
used to that enemy very fast

[tardy ingot]

didnt say you did
Just oof

[solemn flint]

still same map?

[ocean spindle]

i dont think so

[tardy ingot]

No

[ocean spindle]

it was night
was cool

[tardy ingot]

eh

cool once

[ocean spindle]

hey was dark

[tardy ingot]

after 5 clears you fell asleep

[ocean spindle]

dark is nice

[mossy aurora]

r6c1 teleport area was not night

[craggy pier]

I wanna do the funni scout room again

[ocean spindle]

yes it was

[tardy ingot]

You didnt need to shoot them at all in r6c1 since you could just walk in a circle

[ocean spindle]

also like- wow u tellin me doin a level multiple times isnt super fun?
like- some levels get more replayability but cmon

[fierce nebula]

at first it was like "ah cool" but then it quickly got annoying to do lmao

[ocean spindle]

at least the first completion mustve been nice

[tardy ingot]

R6C1 ASIDE from that part was fun to replay tho?

[ocean spindle]

like was a nice surprise

[craggy pier]

R7 extended when

[ocean spindle]

ok i guess it was rlly easy

fair-

[tardy ingot]

5 scout room is fun to speedrun through
giant zone was shooting gallery fun

T scan was cool if you didnt make it easy mode

[icy cave]

Now that you stopped playing Calle said: "what's the point even any more😔"

[ocean spindle]

... easy mode?

w whu

[icy cave]

4 sentries

[tardy ingot]

3-4 burst sentries

[icy cave]

Ez gg

[tardy ingot]

i prefered 3 with bio

[icy cave]

never see an enemy

[craggy pier]

I love bio

[tardy ingot]

but 4 makes the end even easier (with 4 you only see enemies if a hybrid spawned) with 3 every wave 1-2 got through

[ocean spindle]

thats a funky
loadout for the alarms
eh but if it works it works

[icy cave]

Yeah but you a bio fanatic

[mossy aurora]

it was same lighting as r6d1?

[tardy ingot]

If you set them up to right obviously

[icy cave]

R6C1 got completely trivialized by 4 sentries. Like A tier ez

[tardy ingot]

I mean bio is good af

[ocean spindle]

that in the last one
...
also that was nightish too

[tardy ingot]

somebody told me in a pub to not take bio recently

[ocean spindle]

ok

[icy cave]

filthy bio hugger

[tardy ingot]

like, they took shotgun sentry

[ocean spindle]

and u throw em a biotrcker i guess

[mossy aurora]

yeah im saying i remember d1 lighting being a lot darker than the c1 tp areas

[tardy ingot]

Same

[ocean spindle]

... i dont
idk

maybe im misremembering

dumb brain

[tardy ingot]

nah.
Funnel cluster alarm (needs 2 sentries max to make it easy)
Funnel class 5 (2-3 = easy)

level was funnel heaven

[icy cave]

and then just wait

[ocean spindle]

funnel heaven is such a
new
two words

together

[ocean spindle]

ok how long

7 mins?

[tardy ingot]

hm?

[ocean spindle]

gotta take breakfast

cant be here forever

[icy cave]

imagine 🤦‍♂️ you little troll

[fierce nebula]

or can you

[ocean spindle]

there

[icy cave]

Who dis?

[modern sand]

im thinking of getting gtfo but i dont have any friends who have it, would it work for me to just buy it and then use the server or does it really bump up the experiecne playing with friends?

[ocean spindle]

well i thiink its worth like tryin to search for a group in here that u can play with regularly
cause yes it gets better when u have funky people to play with constantly, but u could find it here

[modern sand]

yeah but like i dont really like vc'ing with people i dont know so if i dont vc, im guessing that'll impact the experience?

[icy cave]

It will impact the experience. Most people would like to have the whole team in VC. some people play muted but they have to find teams accepting that

[modern sand]

yeah :/

like i really am interested in the game it seems great

[icy cave]

Most of the time if you post a lfg post and say from the get go you are muted it should be no problem as only people accepting this will join

[icy cave]

It is ! but at the same time it's 4 player co op. so it's not too far fetched for people to look for direct communication

Again if you say you are muted from the get go you might have a chance. But you are at the mercy of others 😅

[latent obsidian]

I'm not gonna sugarcoat it

Its better with a group of friends you know

[turbid horizon]

Yes

[latent obsidian]

And if you don't want to vc with people on here even thats going to make things even harder

[turbid horizon]

As long as they’re dedicated to learning the game

A group of friends is top tier imo

No one’s getting carried bc you all learn at the same pace

[latent obsidian]

playing muted isn't the worst tho

Yep ^

[turbid horizon]

And you all grow as a team together

[latent obsidian]

exactly exactly

[turbid horizon]

Top tier experience imo

[swift shadow]

yeah see im on the fence for that exact reason

[turbid horizon]

If you can hook some friends on this game do it

[past star]

All my friends quit the game after a1

I share this experience with many others

I think it says something about GTFO

[swift shadow]

amen

[latent obsidian]

Various friends of mine picked up the game and then stopped

I've got one consistent player and a couple of less available people at least

[turbid horizon]

For me, I did A1 and B1 on R6, then a friend of mine told me he and another guy were getting into the game and asked if I wanted to join

We beat most of R6, our team coordination peak was C2EX and C3PE

Was so cool seeing how far we’d come as a team

[past star]

C3PE is peak GTFO

[turbid horizon]

YES

[swift shadow]

see i struggle with lfg bc i love the game but ive got super bad dislexia lmao

[turbid horizon]

Even though we CP’ed that level we were still proud

[past star]

[swift shadow]

gtfo will forever be one of my faves

[turbid horizon]

I remember when StFunky told me ab the cp bug I was so confused

[turbid horizon]

Bruh we were new and had no idea it existed

[past star]

Lol

[latent obsidian]

Best moment for my team was R3D1

[turbid horizon]

Oooohhh

[latent obsidian]

Very close clutch finish

[turbid horizon]

pMom?

[latent obsidian]

Well actually || the blood door after that was more sussy ||

[past star]

Spoiler

Not for me but for others lol

[turbid horizon]

oh lmao I didn’t know there’s a || blood door ||

[past star]

My favorite was the ||shadow tank mom|| in r8

[turbid horizon]

O_O

[spice ridge]

how balanced are the weapons? do i need to google some meta loadouts or will ie be more or less OK (or not OK) regardless of the weapons that i choose?

[past star]

Preference

Decide what you like

If you’re looking for meta I suppose hel revovler is a top choice for primary and for special combat shotgun, machine gun, either shotgun and sniper are fun and good options

[tardy ingot]

Theres definetly „meta“ loadouts

But most guns are perfectly fine and even the weaker ones are useable. Since the expectation is failing until you get it anyway, just adapt if you think you need something different. (Example, sniper vs big enemies)

[past star]

L take, sniper against small enemies

[tardy ingot]

precision rifle against bigs

[past star]

Exactly

Meta

I don’t think I would ever recommend Precision Rifle. Arguably the worst weapon in the game

[latent obsidian]

R1C1? 🙂

[past star]

What about it

[latent obsidian]

precision rifle for it

[past star]

Y

[latent obsidian]

Its probably the only level I'd take it on

[spice ridge]

does the game have matchmaking, or do people normally organize in discord

[past star]

Just take machine gun, sniper, or choke mod

[latent obsidian]

both, but its better to go use discord lfg

[past star]

Actually no, if your going for smalls just take high cal

[neon gust]

Use discord

way better

[tardy ingot]

eh
Its as useable there as on other levels

Gun just isnt great

[tardy ingot]

Revolver*

if on a reactor just chain headshots

[past star]

I can’t hit shots tho

That’s not in my vocab

[tardy ingot]

im training to compensate for you

then i can finally join in bean battles

[past star]

😎

🫘

[spice ridge]

Last time I played during the free weekend I always ran out of ammo, it was pretty stressful. Not sure if I was doing something wrong or if that’s how the game is just balanced, having to avoid enemies as much as possible?

[ocean spindle]

did u used melee

[spice ridge]

Yeah iirc I had a spear and tried to use it any time we met sleeping enemies

[ocean spindle]

mh maybe the problem was like, wakin up too many rooms, or takin too much time in combat situations
usually thats the biggest flaw with new players

not bein quick enough

[dry pumice]

You use melee for stealth sections to save ammo. But the game is also balanced to always have just enough.

[icy cave]

the problem was he used spear

stop sugarcoating

[spice ridge]

Yeah we were definitely slow, I think we were full-clearing the entire level, searching for secrets and loot lol

[dry pumice]

It's normal to extract with 1 mag left.

It's not normal to ran out completely mid-ezpedition.

[neon gust]

Use terminal to find ammo in the zone

[ocean spindle]

i mean its oke to take it slow and carefully, but theres some situations where it needs to be fast
like the alarms

[neon gust]

dont skip the terminal

[icy cave]

Using Spear means when you wake up the room you have to shoot. So basically they wasted ammo

[dry pumice]

No you don't.

You just take a defensive stance and let them come

Camp around corners fully charged and aim for the head

[ocean spindle]

dont even try he doesnt listen to anythin that has 'spear'

[icy cave]

Sure then you sacrifice health instead

[latent obsidian]

spear mains when two enemies attack at once: 😨

[icy cave]

👆

[icy cave]

👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆

[dry pumice]

But of course... With a spear there is no excuse for awake rooms.

[icy cave]

Until a balance patch it is garbo and should be shunned

[latent obsidian]

to be serious though if you've just started and are running out of ammo it could be any number of things

[dry pumice]

Unless it was a cluster of 4

[latent obsidian]

Probably using tools inefficiently for alarms too

[solemn flint]

Hammer?

[tardy ingot]

The biggest issues for beginners

1. not looting well
2. not using said loot well (ammo balancing)
3. not shooting with the right guns at the right enemies
4. not setting up (well) for alarms
5. panic (missing)

[ocean spindle]

this hurts to see

'yeah i seem to be missin ammo'
'spear'
like they didnt even mentioned they woke up rooms

cmon people

maybe they just got lost on the scans

of an alarm

that happens way more to beginners

[solemn flint]

What is not using said loot well mean d4?

Im confuse

[icy cave]

Imagine, you know very well it is one of the biggest handicaps in the game

[tardy ingot]

10/90 ammo balance
Then using a pack

[latent obsidian]

wasting ammopacks on people at 20/90 ammo

[solemn flint]

Oh ok

Oh god

That is sad to look at

[ocean spindle]

yes but not every new player kites a room they woke up, some are really good at sneakin, that wasnt even the point

[solemn flint]

My eyes

[neon gust]

you talking like the game gives you that info

[icy cave]

If he said he brought shotgun sentry you would have jumped on it just the same

[neon gust]

its normal for begginers to hit those same ol same ol issues

[tardy ingot]

i mean, we realized that god damn 30 min in…

[ocean spindle]

no i wouldnt, its an ammo problem

[tardy ingot]

i can see it happening a few time

but its still a thing

[latent obsidian]

biggest beginner problem is shooting the enemy in the front instead of the back

[icy cave]

Ammo, tool, health. it's resources issues

[solemn flint]

I actually realise how much ammo pack give the first time i used them

[neon gust]

just because you realize doesnt mean other people will

[tardy ingot]

Spear is not an issue for beginners when they are so new that they dont even know ANY basics

[ocean spindle]

yeah u look at ur % in the training

[icy cave]

biggest beginner problem is not using/learning terminals

[solemn flint]

Terminal are ur gud friend

[ocean spindle]

beginners will get out their guns if a room wakes up, doesnt matter if they have a knife, exactly

[solemn flint]

Knowing life hack help alot

[latent obsidian]

probably also not understanding gun ranges

[ocean spindle]

smg across the room heh

[solemn flint]

Sad but true

[icy cave]

Who listens to 4rk he is a bio main !!!!

[dry pumice]

The guy probably already left the server while veterans are throwing feces at each other

[solemn flint]

Wait, d4 is bio main?

[icy cave]

Like every time 😂

[latent obsidian]

Kev loves his bio tracker

[minor fractal]

Combat shotgun across the room ;_;

[ocean spindle]

sad?
i do it most of the time just cause ik how to manage resources

[ocean spindle]

ah yes scattergun 70m away

[icy cave]

The memeing is unleashed 😂

[neon gust]

like always

[solemn flint]

Its sad to waste ammo and sad bc u can just kill the one that wake up and not wake the whole room up

[tardy ingot]

cant believe NA and da cant read anymore with their old age

[ocean spindle]

ah if its just one then yes i meant the room wakin up

sorry

[tardy ingot]

also im actually not a bio main, i rarely use bio myself. i just have one in the team everytime

[latent obsidian]

age is a protected characteristic I'll have you know you whippersnapper

[ocean spindle]

u r shotgun sentry main obv

:>

[icy cave]

that's just copium at this point L1ght

[solemn flint]

Are u knife main?

[neon gust]

never forget eva r1c1 stream where he missed 10 million shots of pr

[woeful jay]

The "ok I need more boosters" sentry?

[neon gust]

then procceds to call the gun bad

[tardy ingot]

Hammer > knife >>> bat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>spear (in usage for me)

[solemn flint]

My man is just flexing

[icy cave]

And don't mistake age for wisdom 😏

[icy cave]

Also YES

[minor fractal]

Ngl, I feel. A lot of the R1 and R2 PuGs don't bring bio because newer players tend to undervalue it.

[tardy ingot]

ah you mean the r1c1 speedrun
the "empty my mag as quick as possible and i suck with pr anyway"

god gamer amirite

[minor fractal]

I've played an immense amount of bio in Alt rundowns.

[neon gust]

why use bio if you have eyes and ears

duh

[icy cave]

The bio part is just trolling towards L1ghtAdam

[tardy ingot]

!!!!!

[neon gust]

its not like audio breaks because its base on los or something

[woeful jay]

But the faster you empty your mag, the more ammo you get from packs, right? :)

[tardy ingot]

people on r2e1 telling me to not bring bio

[solemn flint]

Uhmmmm

[icy cave]

Also this proves new players learn jack sh*t

[solemn flint]

[tardy ingot]

funnily enough

i think people just past beginner

[solemn flint]

Me questioning who tha freck said no bio?

[tardy ingot]

are the ones who undervalue it the most

actual vets dont undervalue bio

[solemn flint]

I love bio

In order to see enemy without my ears

[woeful jay]

Bio gives so much info just by existing

Movespeed, if the marker sways, if it's close to the floor..

[dry pumice]

Bio is casual sauce

Basically takes care of enemy awareness

[woeful jay]

I feel that sometimes tbh

[dry pumice]

Convinient as fuck but sometimes i lament the need to actually see my enemies

[minor fractal]

Attention economy.

[woeful jay]

If an enemy isn't tagged, I usually hear about it

I still stay wary as the one using bio cuz I'm not supposed to go down

[neon gust]

r3 will fix the footsteps sound issue

[turbid horizon]

:3

[lunar rain]

I always ask if it’s ok if I am mute, and that I can leave if it’s not ok

[icy cave]

And that's the way to go

[lunar rain]

Just try to be accommodating to others

[weary mesa]

Some people will give you a orchiectomy for not wanting mutes

[mossy aurora]

Well that's my word of the day

[spice ridge]

whats the bestest melee weapon, the hammer?

[ocean spindle]

depends on what u like

... but yes hammer is nice

[spice ridge]

ok ill try it , what about Tool

[ocean spindle]

i prefer knife or bat but they has many drawbacks

also tool theres no good one, depends on the level, on how u use it

[spice ridge]

i used the Mine Deployer before and ended up killing myself because the door hacking objective circle thingy literally floated into my own minefield lmao

[dry pumice]

Hammer unfortunately is a jack of all trades winner.

[turbid horizon]

Bat does not have that many drawbacks tbh

[ocean spindle]

mines destroy but when use em bad they dont do anythin

[dry pumice]

Other melee have glaring issues and weaknesses that make them worse in this or that situation

[ocean spindle]

tru but

eh

its my fav

but i get wy people dont use it

[turbid horizon]

Like it’s main disadvantage is scout kills and if you get good at that you’re golden

[ocean spindle]

me tryin to explain softly that hammer is nice but other weapons are options too

[ocean spindle]

i need to practice again

lmao -again- as if i ever did

[turbid horizon]

My squadmate who uses bat practiced killing scouts with it and is super reliable at it now

Even shadow scouts

And having that giant staggerer is so nice

[tardy ingot]

cant 1 tap strikers to the body from front
cant 1 tap chargers ever
cant kill giants quickly (can deal with them, but not as reliably and safely as hammer)
limited range

its rly good in combat tbh, not as much in hard stealth

[ocean spindle]

'ever' as in maybe the climate could affect it
nah ik what u talk about but just sounded funny

[turbid horizon]

The striker point is kinda moot imo, if you have access to a sleeper front with full charge you can hit head

[ocean spindle]

but i mean not killin a smol from the front isnt a problem

[tardy ingot]

not always, especially with how close you need to get at times for it

[turbid horizon]

Chargers is an annoyance, but u can just second charge and kill, just harder

[dry pumice]

Not having to be precise at aiming for a kill is a nice selling point

[turbid horizon]

Huh never seen my friend have an issue with it

[tardy ingot]

you the funny part

all of those are just things hammer has and bat doesnt

[ocean spindle]

yes but i dislike hammer

fuck hammer

[tardy ingot]

its not like bat is actually getting major drawbacks outisde of stuff like charger scouts and chargers

[turbid horizon]

Yeah, I think that’s why bat is more liked then spear and knife

[tardy ingot]

and having to go for a 2nd hit rly isnt great in stealth (or combat) vs chargers

[turbid horizon]

Doesn’t have super hard drawbacks compared to knife and spear

[ocean spindle]

more liked?
i could swear its the least used one

[turbid horizon]

Imma be honest I think thats spear

[tardy ingot]

I feel like knife is the only melee (hammer aside) with a MAJOR upside

[ocean spindle]

newies use it a lot

[tardy ingot]

bat is hammer thats shifted down in favour of some things (it has some unique stuff tbf)

spear is range

[turbid horizon]

I think bat has one tbh

2 big at once

Super useful in C3

[ocean spindle]

i just use it as a coop melee, if i see people with big ones i come in jumpin to stagger

and as a smol melee it works great

[turbid horizon]

If we get like 3 bigs on top of each other

[tardy ingot]

killing? hammer does that better no?
stagger, well hammer wont perma stagger. but staggering 2 giants with bat at once is not feasable

[ocean spindle]

u never know

/j

[tardy ingot]

prob my biggest issue with bat would be charger weakness and the pretty bad hit angle

knife and spear are very straight

[ocean spindle]

i mean theres not a whole lot of levels with chargers and if theres one i can change it

[tardy ingot]

bat is decent overall tho

[ocean spindle]

doesnt mean i use it on every level

[turbid horizon]

Pretty sure it is feasible, in a situation where you need to stun 2 bigs at once they’re usually pretty close

Bat can just go back and forth while the other guys deal with 3rd giant

[ocean spindle]

well thats true big ones appear in pairs most of the time

[tardy ingot]

i meant as in i dont think a giant will be staggered for 2 charge durations

so you dont actually perma stagger (like bat can do on a single giant)

[turbid horizon]

It should be iirc

As long as you limb break

Even then, full charge is like a ton of stagger damage

[tardy ingot]

how long is bat charge again?

[ocean spindle]

like sec and a half
not sure

[tardy ingot]

for that you need back dmg tbf

so again, not feasable rly

in the end

[turbid horizon]

Idk, I know it’s close to knife charge

[tardy ingot]

Hammer is best

knife is best for its nieche

[turbid horizon]

Yes ik

[ocean spindle]

we all know hammer

[tardy ingot]

bat is better than hammer vs smalls (generally) better than knife vs not smalls

spear is just

meh

i mean its technically better vs singular giants

[turbid horizon]

Spear needs help man

._.

[ocean spindle]

it just needs love

[lusty bramble]

Make it throwable

[dry pumice]

25 damage. No other way.

[turbid horizon]

No wait go back

[lusty bramble]

That is not a good balance change

[ocean spindle]

hum

interestin

[tardy ingot]

throwable spear might be bad

but it would be fun

[turbid horizon]

I’d accept more damage for longer charge tbh

[ocean spindle]

it obv would be awful but funkier

[lusty bramble]

That would not be a good balance change

[turbid horizon]

It already charges slightly faster than hammer

[dry pumice]

The lack of sprint must be compensated with something.

[tardy ingot]

he

[dry pumice]

And the only thing that makes sense to get back for loss of mobility is raw power.

[tardy ingot]

you actually need 25 dmg for spear

[lusty bramble]

More damage would not nearly compensate enough for the lack of sprint

[tardy ingot]

otherwise it wouldnt be worth vs giants

[turbid horizon]

Yes

[dry pumice]

It absolutely would.

[tardy ingot]

its wouldnt compensate

but it would actually give it SOMETHING

[dry pumice]

I always play fatasses that can't dodge for shit but hit like trucks.

It will be perfect.

[turbid horizon]

25 would be good, it’d like 90+ dmg

so one hammer hit from back would kill

It’d be a supp weapon like bat

[dry pumice]

Dedicated giant remover. Actually for real this time.

[tardy ingot]

you need minimum 21 if a occi + back should kill (with it or hammer being the back hit)

and minimum 25 for a occi + front hit to kill)

obviously cant go 30

since then it just breaks charger scouts

[turbid horizon]

Lmao charger scout bonker

Wait if it was 25 could you kill it with spear + bat/knife?

[ocean spindle]

spear 70 damage thank u

[tardy ingot]

yes
as long as either of them gets a back hit

[turbid horizon]

Spear with IIX would finally OHKO cscout from front

[tardy ingot]

actually

no

[turbid horizon]

🙏

[tardy ingot]

knife couldnt

[turbid horizon]

LMAO

[tardy ingot]

it would miss 0,5 dmg

[turbid horizon]

knife moment

[tardy ingot]

i mean you could just tap with knife

so

[turbid horizon]

Or just use hammer/bat ig

Rip knife

[dry pumice]

Knife is cute for combo kills, but jesus christ lord forbid you'll miss a single headshot

[tardy ingot]

eh

[ocean spindle]

u can correctt it

[tardy ingot]

you have a 2nd chance

immediatly

[ocean spindle]

yes it isnt so bad

[turbid horizon]

Bro watching that one scaler vid where he took like 40 hits to kill a chicken was hilarious

[dry pumice]

My first R7C1 victory was with knife.

[ocean spindle]

r6d4 nice

[dry pumice]

It actually did really well in the finale as I was popping people left and right.

... Until I stood ammo less at extraction point against a snatcher.

[lusty bramble]

Artek aren't you the one who said that the bullpup is like an extension of yourself

[turbid horizon]

Yeah knife on R7C1 run sounds like godsend

[ocean spindle]

ah my first victory in r7c1 was with bat
... UNTIL I GOT DISCONNECTED AT 95% LAST SCAN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

sorry

[dry pumice]

Sort of, yeah. I said we understand each other.

[lusty bramble]

Lol

[turbid horizon]

I miss old HAR

[ocean spindle]

i misss heavy smg

[dry pumice]

Same...

[ocean spindle]

i didnt played it but seems fun

[turbid horizon]

Well just wait for alt r5

[dry pumice]

Now it's HAD: Heavy Assault Donkey.

[turbid horizon]

Bruh

[tardy ingot]

id rather have r5 HAR for main

than the current HAR in special...

my r6 HAR

[dry pumice]

The one special gun I didn't hate.

[turbid horizon]

what if we could have both

So u can run dual Har

[woeful jay]

Well, this friend just has a lot of practice with bat

[turbid horizon]

And miss every shot

[woeful jay]

I think I've been using it since sometime in R6

[weary mesa]

Har is still great

[turbid horizon]

Yeah since one level where we struggled with giants iirc

[weary mesa]

I don't get the hate just a different playstyle now

[dry pumice]

Big recoil big cringe

[ocean spindle]

i like it but its hard to control, even so i still like it

[turbid horizon]

Bro I can’t hit anything unless it’s like 2 feet away, i miss old har

[dry pumice]

Just make it semi auto at this point, that full auto is offense to god.
And do the same for PR whilst at it.

[weary mesa]

skill issue

[turbid horizon]

Like I feel like if I want to do big damage to something 2 feet away I should just grab a shotgun

[tardy ingot]

HAR got nerfed into machine gun recoil

meanwhile machine guns got heavy buffs

[ocean spindle]

u just cant aim

[tardy ingot]

hmm

[weary mesa]

I can't tap fire the far away enemies and I can't pull down when the enemies are in front of me

[neon gust]

if you have issue hitting stuff 2 feet away then i think you got the problem

[woeful jay]

Idk why MG didn't stay at heavy recoil

[tardy ingot]

why should i use HAR if i can recoil control way better with both machine guns and have more power

also the recoil isnt the only issue with HAR

it has a legit random spray

[turbid horizon]

i can handle mg recoil HAR just feels so much worse

wat

[dry pumice]

Same.

[weary mesa]

More power 5 damage to 3.5

[dry pumice]

It's because of animations actually.

[weary mesa]

ok

[tardy ingot]

30 bullets vs 60

[weary mesa]

that bullets

[dry pumice]

Veruta stays in the center of screen and only shakes your screen.

[weary mesa]

not power

[tardy ingot]

carbine has more power than dmr

[dry pumice]

With HAR the entire model shakes and jumps up blocking your view so you don't where you are aiming.

[tardy ingot]

its why i didnt say dmg

[neon gust]

thats because the tester got skill issue

[tardy ingot]

yeah we need more carbine buffs

[neon gust]

im still puzzle by that change

[turbid horizon]

more carbine buff :3

[dry pumice]

Carbine will become master race and rule over garganta with low caliber fist.

[tardy ingot]

man its so much fun when we dont have a single stable non charge up automatic special

lets just nerf HAR again with some charge up time maybe

[dry pumice]

Bullpup should've been a special. Just needs a couple damage / mag buffs.

[turbid horizon]

oh lord special category is gonna be nuts next patch

[ocean spindle]

hel is gonna rain down babyyyyyyy

[turbid horizon]

Speaking of charge up weapons

Lmao

[woeful jay]

borst canoon

weee

[dry pumice]

Fingers crossed for a special that I won't hate

[tardy ingot]

all 3 are charge ups

[turbid horizon]

Both hel secondaries and bc

Oh lord

Also rifle :3

He chilling

[neon gust]

cant wait for 10cc to buff hel weaponry further next patch

[ocean spindle]

i wanna try hel stuff so bad

[turbid horizon]

no stop

Try hel revo

It fun

[tardy ingot]

imagine if they change the guns to only have 2 pen

reduces their potential waveclear a ton

[mossy aurora]

[ocean spindle]

i did i dont like it i want more power

[turbid horizon]

Ok hel shotty ig

[woeful jay]

I think I said the same about HEL Gun because that thing is absurd

[neon gust]

go back to rundown 4

and use hel revo

[ocean spindle]

no

[dry pumice]

Anything for balance

And it'll still be too good

[weary mesa]

R4 was hard brothers

peak GTFO

[ocean spindle]

4 bullets on hel gun

there

it isnt good anymore

[turbid horizon]

4 bullets period

1 per clip

[ocean spindle]

scattergun sized mag

[weary mesa]

I like how people are like R6 is where guns got stupid buffs, but R4 and R5 add the most dominate guns in the game

and sentry and mines

[turbid horizon]

I mean R3 aswell

[neon gust]

nope

[turbid horizon]

Rly?

[neon gust]

r3 was legit the most balance rundown

yep

[turbid horizon]

oh lmao

[ocean spindle]

whut

[mossy aurora]

Maybe they think the guns in r4/r5 were appropriate for the difficulty of those rundowns where R6 was not

[neon gust]

hel weaponry wasnt absolutly stupid broken

[mossy aurora]

[neon gust]

shotguns where good yes, but most of the loadouts where really good and balance

nice enemy variety

also burst canon wasnt a cheap ass revolver

helgun can confortably come back to its r3 state with no issue

hel rifle could use a pen decrease

[mossy aurora]

What was hel gun stats in r3?

[ocean spindle]

idk but wasnt the burst cannon like the r3 scattergun but even more broken for the burst cancelling?

[weary mesa]

no

BC did 12.8 iirc

[neon gust]

r3 burst canon 12 damage, helgun did 13.8

i think

the charge up actually mattered on hel gun

[lofty hawk]

hey, just got GTFO any tips?

[mossy aurora]

So r3 helgun only realistically nerfed against chargers/bigs?

[ocean spindle]

wiki says 20

[ocean spindle]

play the training

[weary mesa]

If that R3

[neon gust]

because thats the new one bobo

[weary mesa]

It's wrong

[mossy aurora]

Still hits the 1 body each hel gun/hel revo threshold

[ocean spindle]

when joinin lobbies ask to not be carried

[ocean spindle]

oh sorry

didnt know

[weary mesa]

I don't know the exact damage for R3 BC but it's not 20 or greater

[ocean spindle]

so in r3 it was nice

ok the thing dragon said makes more sense now

[neon gust]

nothing really was power creep

aside from shotguns i guess

[weary mesa]

sniper 45 damage

[neon gust]

pre alpha sniper be like 10 damage

But yeah hel weaponry needs to be tone down

it was mad annoying in r5

and r4

[turbid horizon]

Agree tbh

I’ve used 3/4 hel weapons, hel revo seems strongish but not too bad, hel gun was really good and hel shotty feels borderline busted

[weary mesa]

Secret 5th hel weapon, Scattergun

[mossy aurora]

[dry pumice]

I don't think HEL shotgun is busted, but it's definetely kinda brain dead when it gets the chance to shine.

[turbid horizon]

Oh right

[dry pumice]

Cut to me stunlocking 2 giants with it until they die.

[minor fractal]

It's hard to tell how much HEL Shotgun dislike is not aiming and sway bug, tbh.

Although it might just be the norm for intermediate player takes.

[mossy aurora]

I think also some mag dump it at mid range enemies and complain it doesn't kill anything

[waxen jetty]

LOL

[dry pumice]

With how thicc that square reticle is - you have to be on a spectrum to consider using past 4-5 meters of range.

[turbid horizon]

bro yeah hel shotgun got that funky reticle lmao

[dry pumice]

It wants to be deep in the enemy's throat and nowhere else

[mossy aurora]

You can use it at non-point blank range effectively to stagger

[dry pumice]

That too, but still.

[mossy aurora]

2 hel shotguns can hold the lower door on last surge in r2e1 given they aren't braindeadedly holding left click

[dry pumice]

If it wasnt for HEL properties that thing would be Bullpup 2.0

... Hm. Hel Bullpup.

[turbid horizon]

no

bro imagining any hel weapon being rapidfire is scary af

[weary mesa]

Hel Gun

R8 Carbine becomes Hel Carbine

[dry pumice]

[tardy ingot]

eh
way more power still even without the pen

[tardy ingot]

and tbf even then...

[lusty bramble]

Is this hel shotgun that can hold the lower door on the last surge in r2e1 in the room with us right now?

[mossy aurora]

It is if Peter Nguyen is using it

[lusty bramble]

Who

[icy cave]

wedges

[errant jungle]

Does the Precision Rifle kill scouts with one shot? Does it matter from what distance?

[dry pumice]

Yes, and probably from like medium range or whenever the fall off settles in.

[lusty bramble]

Did you prefer the "100 damage per mag low rpm machine-gun" or the "drop your fps by 60" combat shotgun?

[neon gust]

I like my i rather crash my fps combat shotgun

[lusty bramble]

Shotgun was okay

But you did have the alternative slow shotgun that could hit 3 bigs

Just fix the hel guns ability to skip charge up if you used a macro and it'll be fine

Though they're definitely either increasing charge up time and/or decreasing amount of target penetrated

[soft crater]

Charge up time I imagine.

[lusty bramble]

Give charge up time to the hel shotgun 😎

[dry pumice]

Hm...

I mean...

That would be the one time i would be okay with

Butt buff damage in return please

[soft crater]

Give hel revolver charge up time

[lusty bramble]

Now you're talking

[soft crater]

But as Artek said

This would probably need a damage buff in return

[lusty bramble]

It's already the highest damaging main weapon

It just misses all of its pellets

[soft crater]

Ammunition might shift due to this

[soft crater]

Balance changes for the most part.

[neon gust]

hel shotgun its fine

[soft crater]

Daddy

Imean

Sup black dragon

[neon gust]

i aint yo papi

[soft crater]

Papi

Give Sawed off the ability to fire all 3 barrels at once

[dry pumice]

That would rip the barrel apart

There's a reason most shotguns don't support that feature

[soft crater]

It's a game

Not realism

[dry pumice]

A very immersive game

[soft crater]

Immersion breaks for this game the more you know so eh

[dry pumice]

the multi barrel shots are for thinks like titanfall, they don't care... And even they didn't have any

HL2 did, weirdly enough

And for no good reason too

Someone thought the 2nd spass tube is a barrel or something

That was before gaming and gun culture had a wedding and melded into one

[soft crater]

I liked when games made Spas 12s pump but they were dummy strong

Like the Killzone series

[dry pumice]

Yeah...

Its magazine's world now

[soft crater]

Spas 15

Which is nice too.

And can also technically pump action with a magazine

Or semi auto

[spice ridge]

recommended graphics settings for maximum graphical fidelity, without hurting visibility, and keeping acceptable performance? i maxed everything and had ~100fps in the tutorial, so i could probably lower/disable some graphics no?

im sure the real game would get more hectic, i only found like 10 enemies at the tutorial finale

[craggy pier]

I'd say you can unlock R7B1 by playing R7A1 and finishing it, R7B1 would be a decent enough "real situation" stress test mainly because that "biome" is underoptimized

Does that answer your question? Probably not, but I've found that some things regarding graphical options are a bit subjective

[soft crater]

R7B1 with all that Foliage

Which has a lore reasoning and if you read/played Logs in R7A1. It explains a bit of It

[dry pumice]

I play at almost everything on minimals except texture quality (half) and resolution (obviously).
Took an axe to everything else, and some maps are still just as horrible. I get stable 110 on a good map and barely a stable 55 on a bad one.

The one setting mandatory for "visibility" is shadows quality. For, uh... Reasons.

[spice ridge]

shadow quality high or low

[ocean spindle]

high

[dry pumice]

Try high and if its too bad you can drop it later

For me going from medium to low brought me back ~10 FPS

[lilac laurel]

What’s gtfo mean? Get the fuck out?🤨

[ocean spindle]

.t gtfo

[uneven gulch]

The game is called GTFO and it doesn't stand for "Get The Fuck Out" but rather the feeling you have that you want to complete The Warden's objective and GTFO.

[woven bone]

are charger scouts 1 tap with iix syringe?

and sledgehammer

[craggy pier]

to the back I think so yes?

[ocean spindle]

yeh so hammer has 20 dmg
IIX gives 3x damage

so from the back it should kill it

those charger scouts have 60 hp

[weary mesa]

From the front with hammer will kill too

[sick mauve]

Good Teammates Fry Onions

[hoary cape]

[wild zenith]

Drekker can 1 hit scouts right?

[ocean spindle]

the precision rifle? yeh

[ivory raft]

recently as in today whenever I load into a lobby I can't get anyone's names to pop up. Bots or real players their gamertag just isn't there and I wanted to know if anyone else has had this issue in the past or today? (Friends said they see names and it's not affecting them at all)

[vital sierra]

i have that before

whenever i have large amount of desync

or well, my internet become trash that day

[solemn flint]

basiclly with syrnge u can 1 shot almost everything with hammer/spear

[ivory raft]

ok ok so did it just end up going away? because im kinda worried because the game isn't unplayable but it sure is useful to know where your team is and who is who

[fierce nebula]

spear??

[solemn flint]

Spear precision damage is a bit more than hammer

[soft crater]

a bit but not enough to be meaningful

[vital sierra]

it's desync to other player

[soft crater]

well not meaningful

but not enough to say it's better than hammer

because hammer still hits full charge damage to head or body the same

[fierce nebula]

I mean it still takes 3 hits to a giant anyway for both hammer and spear

[soft crater]

lemme know when spear can body a striker from the front

[fierce nebula]

:copium:

[ocean spindle]

wow that wasnt even the point of the conversation

cool

[soft crater]

regardless the no sprint/charge is the biggest flaw with spear

[soft crater]

I just hopped on so eh

[ocean spindle]

gtfo players when they learn how our ancestors killed animals with spears even with no sprint:

[soft crater]

well

our ancestors were able to throw them

[ocean spindle]

mod gtfo to throw em

[soft crater]

throwing knife where

[fierce nebula]

tbf I think spears irl do more damage

[soft crater]

depends

the hammer we have is blunt on both ends but Hammer could have pointed ends which potentially have more power than a spear (not a thrown one that is)

(I miss my maul skin)

[fierce nebula]

you just invented the axe

[soft crater]

Axes can have pointed back ends too

but I didn't state a bladed front side

so technically

I didn't

war hammers with pointed backends existed

potentially also with a bladed tip for thrust attacks as well

[fierce nebula]

unless they make melee combos theres no reason a pointy end on the back or top would do more damage in this game

[soft crater]

yeah I didn't say all that in the context of the game

but it's not gonna be implemented anyhow

the Maul was purely cosmetic as well

but it is a legacy hammer

[rugged lance]

How do I fix the black screen that pops up out of nowhere

[craggy pier]

leave and rejoin or wait a min or 2 and it goes away

fucking garbage bug

[rugged lance]

Oh thank god

[fierce nebula]

GTFO is a polished game ready for full release

[craggy pier]

ong bestie

[weary mesa]

I haven't gotten liquid bug since full release

One guy in my group gets it every like 10 runs

[marsh idol]

Hello people! I just bought the game yesterday, but haven't really played besides booting up to the menu. It seems like there isn't any Tutorial, so should I just start with Alt://R1?

[tardy ingot]

R1 is a good way to start yes

generally the easiest rundown (set of levels)

theres a tutorial (well, training) but that only teaches you some ideas and to look out for some information

[spice ridge]

there is a tutorial, i just did it

its pretty good sorta

i found a youtube video thats about 30min long that i think covers a lot of the important stuff

[tardy ingot]

Lemme guess

professor scaler?

[spice ridge]

yeah

[marsh idol]

That's the first person I found on YT as well

But thanks! I must have missed the Tutorial/Training, I only saw the Rundown and Settings menu. I'll try it out once I get off work

[spice ridge]

his tips on using terminals really helped it, it seemed way more complicated and overwhelming before

list query and ping is all you need

[tardy ingot]

and youll learn the more advanced stuff aswell as small tricks later

just a recommendation

base fov is set to 55

up it to at least 70

[spice ridge]

his mine tips too i liked those. i had no idea how to use them, when i did i ended up blowing myself up, or like 2-3 enemies tops

[tardy ingot]

prob not over 100

[spice ridge]

are there any other good mine tips? other than putting them on a locked door that you know will be breached

when i used mines before i either killed 2-3 enemies per mine, or the door alarm thing ended up pushing me towards my own mines lol

[tardy ingot]

you can use them to quickly break cfoamed or hacklock doors

[marsh idol]

Put it next to a locked door and shoot the mine?

[tardy ingot]

Generally

Game has a lot of very basic mechanics. But how they play into each other and how you can abuse them is what gives the game incredible depth

Ye

[spice ridge]

do people play this game solo with 3 bots? or is that literally torture

[sturdy glen]

you can but its not very fun compared to with players

at least for earlier levels, later on they wont work for a lot of levels

[fierce nebula]

^^^

using only bots is a pain D and E levels

[tardy ingot]

mostly as a weird challenge or when people have no one to play with. (Some rare do prefer it)

Its pretty scuffed tho. Bots can carry you quite a bit but theyll give you issues in harder levels and make some levels near impossible without hard cheese or even glitch abuse.

Then again, same goes for solo without bots

[icy cave]

What they are trying to say is that at some point without cheesing or glitch abuse it is impossible to do the levels with 3 bots

[spice ridge]

😦

[icy cave]

it is what it is

[fierce nebula]

bots only good for bio in a team of 3 players

[tardy ingot]

when a team of bots with a player not killing anything can beat C tier missions

[spice ridge]

how does the LFG work in the #lfg-beginners ? how to know if its EU or NA or OCE

[icy cave]

you post your location with your message. otherwise you don't 😅

[dry pumice]

Welcome to true GTFO experience

When you realise that this game's matchmaking is discord in disguise

I refused to engage for 2 weeks, until eventually MM stopped feeding me even Brasilians.

[spice ridge]

mines work like claymores in this game? like if you angle the laser beam towards the enemies youre more likely to hit more enemies?

[fierce nebula]

yesn't

best to have mines on doors otherwise it'll only kill like one

instead of 5-20

well there's no cap on damage

[solemn flint]

not rlly

the laser mean that if something hit it it will trigger

[mossy aurora]

claymores are directional explosives... which the mines are as well....

[solemn flint]

the easiest way for it to hit alot of enemy is mines behind a door that is closeable

[solemn flint]

wait

i though claymore are the type of mine that u put on a wall

[fierce nebula]

claymores explode in one direction

[mossy aurora]

damn its almost a full time job watching this channel and dispelling the misinformation

[solemn flint]

not rlly

i do have a life

its just

diffrent

[mossy aurora]

wat

[solemn flint]

welp techniclly i go to bed at 1 2 am and i wake up at about 7 8 am

[dry pumice]

I do belive mines have a hitbox in form of a protruded barrel

People sometimes get blown up from unexpectedly high ranges

And always when starring it in the eye

[fierce nebula]

mines can kill up to I think 10m away

[solemn flint]

i get blew up alot

the fun that mines bring

[spice ridge]

im firing up MSPaint

[dry pumice]

But shouldn't bother with it either away.

Mines are almost exclusively for doors only.

[spice ridge]

https://i.imgur.com/LNjxvdk.png is the standard way to mine a door

[dry pumice]

All other cases itll kill 2-3 people at best.

[spice ridge]

but what if you mine it this way, could it hit enemies further down behind the door, like a claymore would https://i.imgur.com/dHXJxlu.png

[tardy ingot]

you do that on small doors if theres smth to put it on

[dry pumice]

Theoretically yes.

[tardy ingot]

for big doors its just not worth it

[spice ridge]

claymores have about 50 meters killzone, if it was a claymore it would clear the entire hallway behind a door

[tardy ingot]

mines have a rough 3 meter diameters (1,5m radius)

[fierce nebula]

small doors that is ideal if the room allows for it

[dry pumice]

Interestingly devs don't tend to put barrels in front of doors 🤔

[mossy aurora]

data center tile has a few rooms with that glass panel in front of small doors

[fierce nebula]

yeah it's pretty rare to run into cases where you can do it

[icy cave]

And now you are one of us ! 😃