gtfo-related-questions

[tardy ingot]

it has a pretty cool tile tho

with a ton of dead bodies

in r4d2 iirc

[wary linden]

Wrong

Oh ok

[craggy pier]

whats likely the longest level time wise in the history of gtfo

[tardy ingot]

uhh

[wary linden]

But that's not his intro

[tardy ingot]

yeah. Just liked that tile back then

still feel ike that shouldve been the tile for the c1 intro

[wary linden]

I wonder if they will change that tile in the alt by forgetting about kt

[tardy ingot]

realistic speed?

[craggy pier]

yeah like going at a decent pace

not speedrunning, not slow

[tardy ingot]

probably r5c2pe or one of r4/r5e1
Maybe r6d4?

[ocean spindle]

... maybe r4e1? idk, do people agree with me on this?

[tardy ingot]

R5d1 extreme was a slog

[wary linden]

No. Under an hour completion recreationally

[dry pumice]

My longest was 1:50 in some PE or another

[ocean spindle]

what would be ur pick

[solemn flint]

r7c2 pr took a long time

with 1 million reset

[tardy ingot]

R4E1 with extreme?

[ocean spindle]

yeah

[wary linden]

R5c2pe.

And for pubs r4c2pe lol

[dry pumice]

Overload can suck my~

[craggy pier]

threat level overload

[tardy ingot]

Its such a short level tho

3 side areas. Overload makes it an extra 10-15 min, same for secondary

[wary linden]

The average of r4c2pe is around 2 hours for pubs back then lol

[tardy ingot]

r5c2pe had a whole optional reactor

[wary linden]

Yes. It is by far the longest one

6 wave reactor as a secondary

[solemn flint]

yea

[wary linden]

But overload is 5 minutes

[solemn flint]

side object make that level really long

[wary linden]

R5A3PE is the longest A tier

[icy cave]

R6D4 was just over an hour

going slow

[craggy pier]

I feel like it's smaller than it seems but fog and all the backtracking kinda warps the lenght a bit

[tardy ingot]

Disagree. Going slow its 1 1/2

[craggy pier]

r5c2pe is an hour and 20 mins

[tardy ingot]

normal speed is 1 hour once you knew it

[craggy pier]

r5d1ex is around 2 hour

[wary linden]

I said the longest, not the largest

[tardy ingot]

Cell carry, cell carry

[craggy pier]

Yes I misused the word "smaller"

Meant shorter

[wary linden]

You gotta carry fog turbine and cells the whole level almost

If you want that resource room that is

[craggy pier]

Is it?

[wary linden]

Also 3 time backtrack in ocerload

[craggy pier]

For the record on R5C2 PE I've only had 1 clear, 2 hours and 13 minutes, we fucked around because we wanted to get all the res possible IIRC

R7C2PE feels kinda long

But I'm kinda sure we all knew what we were doing

me and a few friends saw someone was doing r5c2pe in another server

[wary linden]

It isn't

[craggy pier]

I know you can dig up a speedrun that makes it seem like we were super slow

Or whatever

[craggy pier]

what if I'm just bad

we started when they were going to start reactor

[tardy ingot]

i mean r7c2pe is long

just not that long

[craggy pier]

we finished ovl and they're on code 4

But it's a bit grating to hear that 1:30 is what you think is the average

[wary linden]

The only reason r7c2pe is long is if you use the cheese 5-6 cell strat for overload

[craggy pier]

also we didn't use boosters, we just go fast and shoot hard

[tardy ingot]

i mean that probably only costs you 2-3 min

if you do it right

[craggy pier]

imagine not wanting to do an error+flyer alarm on 15 hp

[past mesa]

Skipping the class 10 really good idea and the charger room scan isn’t scary

[wary linden]

Dude you have to backtrack 2 extra time

With cells

[past mesa]

Tbh it is the only way we have completed 4 snatcher

[craggy pier]

backtrack from arena scan to ovl then from ovl to gen cluster

😴

[craggy pier]

I thought he meant do the class 10 chargers while error alarm going

[wary linden]

Imagine not having 15 hp because there are 50 uses of meds in the level to begin with

[craggy pier]

foggggyyyy

[wary linden]

Who cares

Meds for days

Burn those meds

[past mesa]

No you use the deactivate error alarm to get rid of the class 10 charger

[craggy pier]

isnt the first class 10 a shadow alarm

[tardy ingot]

only the one you carry from 3rd to 2nd

Since youd have to carry overload cell anyway

[wary linden]

Nope. You jave to carry overload cell separately since you already did the 3-4 cell backtrack

[ocean spindle]

ok so first alarm, yes chedows on big scary room, its better to lower the difficulty on that one cause the error alarm to do it its doable with overload
then the second X alarm with choirgers, that one its better to do it complete, the whole X alarm
i think thats how the strategy was

[tardy ingot]

yeah

From gen cluster to overlod door and back

everything inside overload is 100% the same

[wary linden]

Instead of carrying the overload cell during the 3-4 cell backtrack

Thx phone

[ocean spindle]

:]

discord on phone be like pain

[tardy ingot]

you go through 4 rooms twice

takes less than 3 min

usually its people setting up for hours on that that eats the time

[craggy pier]

is it easier to do the class X with snatchers or stealth the cscout mom/tank zones

[tardy ingot]

cuz in the error they rush it more

[past mesa]

You use the deactivate alarm terminal for the error scan for the class 10 charger

[ocean spindle]

its easier the X with snoitchers
u just gotta time it so the snoitchers spawn, u kill em and then the alarm starts so u have breathin space

[craggy pier]

huh

[ocean spindle]

uh

[craggy pier]

this

is what

huh

[past mesa]

What do you mean

[craggy pier]

you do the error alarm then room scan to disable the first class x

not the charger class x

[past mesa]

Yeah you just never shut off the error until class 10 charger

[ocean spindle]

... why tho

[craggy pier]

why

[wary linden]

You have 3-4 cell carry,
Then you have backtrack tk overload to clear it, followed by backtrack to gen cluster
Then you have from gen cluster 5-6 cell to overload cell carry.
Then the carry from overload to gen cluster

People who use 5-6 cell strat for alarm will not go clear overload in fog :)

[past mesa]

It isn’t a very scary errror and you skip all boss stealth and save resources for last part. Without res eff basically the only way to do 3-4 snatcher runs without hammering them

Also in pubs it saves 30 mins

[ocean spindle]

so-- the first X alarm, u go into the error alarm zone, deactivate it and lower the difficulty, the snoitcher alarm continues, and then u go into the charger X alarm
i think ur confused

[craggy pier]

what is this troll

[past mesa]

No I am not

You never deactivate error

[craggy pier]

I'm being memed rn

[past mesa]

Until class 10 charger

[ocean spindle]

the overload error alarm no u dont, but the ERROR ALARM FOR THE first X alarm u do

[tardy ingot]

just gotta make sure snatchers dont spawn when a person runs to start it

[past mesa]

I can’t help them

@past star

[craggy pier]

what is the purpose of waiting till the class x charger before disabling error

[past mesa]

It disables both

[ocean spindle]

whut

[craggy pier]

the fuck

[past mesa]

Ah there is the misunderstanding

[past star]

Lmao

[craggy pier]

is that supposed to happen

[ocean spindle]

well i didnt know that

[past mesa]

Yeah deactivate alarms gets rid of all active alarms

[past star]

Is anything supposed to happen in gtfo?

[craggy pier]

wait so u just skip the entire class x charger?

[past star]

Correct

[past mesa]

Yeah

[craggy pier]

bruh

lmao

ok then

[ocean spindle]

jesus

[craggy pier]

that's an interesting strat lmao

[ocean spindle]

r7d1 i guess

[past mesa]

It is the solo strategy

Just adapted

[craggy pier]

wait so does one person just stay by terminal after room scan while the other/s go back and pull the class x chargers?

[past mesa]

Yeah

[craggy pier]

lol

[ocean spindle]

funky

[craggy pier]

gtfo moment

[past mesa]

Yeah the only scary part is 4 snatcher spawn

But you have the door to save yourself

[craggy pier]

or just get everyone to leave so u have one snatcher

[past mesa]

Yeah but we made this strategy to do 3-4 snatcher

Runs

[craggy pier]

idk if I'll ever do that but it's good info to know, ty

[past mesa]

Very good to know gl using it

[craggy pier]

are there any other levels in gtfo where you can use error shutoff to disable other alarms? or this just an r7d1 moment

[icy cave]

R6D3PE

[past mesa]

R6d3

Modded rubdowns will have that issue a lot

[craggy pier]

mmmmm ok, I don't remember anything about that level except 2 sleeping tank respawn room

[past mesa]

Where you can pull like 8 alarms and deactivate them all

[craggy pier]

I look forward to playing r6 again now that I'm decent at the game

[icy cave]

You could cancel out the class VI shadow alarm or the surge error

[past mesa]

Or the shadow error and normal error

[craggy pier]

I literally have almost no recollection of that level

[icy cave]

Yeah but that implies having the whole team doing the shadow class VI and thus waking up tank barracks

which is possible but ..... why

[past mesa]

C foam moments

[craggy pier]

r5e1, where you can skip shadow class 5

Is it possible that desync causes players to see an enemy sleeping when in actuality it’s flashing

[past mesa]

yes

[craggy pier]

🥹

[ocean spindle]

:]

[craggy pier]

Maybe that’s why the dude I played with kept waking things up

[past mesa]

na they just dont know stealth

[craggy pier]

[minor fractal]

One of those W-key spear users.

[icy nacelle]

There's also the one where enemies stay glowing even once they go back to sleeping until their next glow happens.

[icy nacelle]

But yeah probably this to explain that.

[past mesa]

funny enough you can move while their pulsing if you know timings. with descyn and without*

[craggy pier]

Mfw massive charger room in c2 overload and we gonna stealth clear it but he starts walking towards the bbc while the charger next to it is pulsing 🥹

[past mesa]

just get ready to run and solo shoot all those rooms

best plan tbh

[icy nacelle]

Why stealth when you have the option of g u n.

[past mesa]

gun too strong

i shouldn't share my r7c2 strategy

[craggy pier]

And before that we had both cscouts in the first room and I literally pinged them but he still walking through the door into the tentacles

[past mesa]

you guys wouldnt like me

[icy nacelle]

Yeah ok the BBC I could accept as a bit of desync happening but that, that's just pure stupidity right there.

[craggy pier]

Somehow the room connected to overload door and the big circular room are separate so the scouts going off didn’t alert the big room

[minor fractal]

Separate rooms.

[craggy pier]

Yeah. Just seems weird cos no dividing door

[icy nacelle]

If the strategy involves a lot of shooting then I dunno man, I can respect it.

[past star]

I blckhop with spear so it’s meta

[past mesa]

while doing the 3 init sequence also just pull the overload charger rooms

[craggy pier]

So true

[past mesa]

that way the sleepers only come from one way

[minor fractal]

Connections between tiles can be archways instead, happens in lots of places just you don't recognize it yet.

[craggy pier]

Thanks for this info

[past mesa]

yeah invisible rooms

my fav

[tardy ingot]

R7c2pe speedruns where you have 1 person pull all of overload once first team scan is done for init 3

[past mesa]

yup

werid as fuck

[icy nacelle]

I'll save this thing into an obscure channel and then forget about it for years until my lads want to do R7C2 OVL.

[past mesa]

dont punish your friends for my ideas

[icy nacelle]

They punish me by existing I think it's fair if I fight back.

[past mesa]

okay well i got one for r2d1

[icy nacelle]

I punish them enough with common fucking sense strategies after all.

[past mesa]

double blood door and class 5 all at once

if you want to be really cool also dont clear the blood room zone and pull it

[icy nacelle]

Yeah that'd never work with them, they'd die fighting just one of the blood door waves probably even if I mined and cleared most of them.

[past mesa]

lets go brother insane team right there

[craggy pier]

mfw bad team

[icy nacelle]

It's a lot of work sometimes, I don't think they actually appreciate how much I carry them.

Like,

[lunar rain]

What counts as a separate room?

[icy nacelle]

I mentioned that clip from your R1A1 Solo hurt my soul right?

[craggy pier]

Yeah lol

[icy nacelle]

I have a clip from one of my mates where he spears one guy next to another, the other wakes up,

[craggy pier]

Also they were definitely too close to stealth them all

[icy nacelle]

he seems stunned by this (THEY'RE RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER MY DUDE), only does like a half charge to the face and doesn't kill it,

then just remains stationary watching the enemy as it then screams and wakes the rest of his room.

[craggy pier]

Smartest spear user

[icy nacelle]

That's what I'm dealing with.

[ocean spindle]

sounds like me ngl

[craggy pier]

I’m fine with carrying not so good players just god please don’t make the level harder than it has to be

[icy nacelle]

There were only like 4 Other enemies in that room and no joke I bet he would've died to them from full health had they not pathed to me elsewhere instead.

[past mesa]

this is the fun for carries

[ocean spindle]

never carry people let em die in pain

[past mesa]

how fucked can it get

[icy nacelle]

I don't mind it since they're my mates I've known them for years and I expect this, it's only bothering when y'know,

they don't get how much extra I'm doing for them and then they get pissy if I make a mistake.

[craggy pier]

Sooooooo many fuckups in the C2 run. We were always low on health and ammo. But… no checkpoint clear

Shrimply too good

[craggy pier]

Oof that sucks

[past mesa]

exactly. just wait till you learn to run away from your problems in pubs

[craggy pier]

I don’t trust anyone I don’t personally know to be good at the game to kill scouts. I need to kill every scout. If I fuck it up that’s my issue that I need to take responsibility for(rarely happens tho) If someone else fucks it up, I could have prevented that by doing it myself.

[icy nacelle]

There's also the meme where they try to attribute me knowing what I'm doing to "luck", but that's more of a joke than actually serious most of the time.

[icy nacelle]

This is me so much jesus christ.

Which is funny because despite how much I kill scouts I still never feel super confident about it. I'd still much rather trust myself than them even when the two of them have spears and a room with nothing but the scout in it.

One of them has genuinely fucked up shooting a Scout with a sniper before. A normal Scout. I don't even know how he managed that.

[craggy pier]

Lol

[icy nacelle]

That's how much I don't trust them with it.

[tardy ingot]

its less about not wanting your teammates to fuck up
And more about the magnetic pull a scout has towards me

[icy nacelle]

[craggy pier]

If someone else wants to kill a scout and the scout is by itself and we have lots of ammo sure go ahead, you have to learn eventually. Otherwise no I’m killing the scout

[icy nacelle]

"I'm not trying to kill the Scout, it just always end up dead in front of me somehow".

[ocean spindle]

ill get u one worse
i failed scouts with precision rifle

[past mesa]

based

[fierce nebula]

I'm not trying to avoid my team mates messing up
I'm trying to breed the scout

[icy nacelle]

I'd rather they learn by jumping in solo atleast a bit tbh. It would also help them practice just stealthing fast in general

[craggy pier]

I think everyone should watch some of rayalots scout videos

[icy nacelle]

What was it, R6B2 Or something that had the Scout you could just instantly access from the start? Yeah they refused outright to even give a few goes.

[craggy pier]

Wow

Yeah I’m a massive not fan of people unwilling to learn and improve

[tardy ingot]

R2C1 strat. Trigger scouts in 204

thats how you get confident

[past mesa]

no not that again

dont put me back there

[tardy ingot]

tbf ive thought over it. And i think if we do it quick enough we dont pull scouts, but let the shadows (slow ass) run after us

[icy nacelle]

I think that's the room he failed to kill the Scout with a sniper ngl.

[past mesa]

i think we just do 2 3 1

[tardy ingot]

so jish, when more r2c1?

3,2,1 should still be quicker

[past mesa]

yeah i think 2 3 1 is safer

[past mesa]

idk

today i can do

[tardy ingot]

i gotta calculate how much time you would safe when doing 2/3/1 vs 3/2/1

[past mesa]

if i had to guess

maybe 15 secs

at worst

[tardy ingot]

also i dont think going into an extra scout room will help 💀

[past mesa]

well

just shoot it

LOL XD

[icy nacelle]

You can solve any problem with the application of **g u n **.

[past mesa]

well the issue with the run

is gun isnt good enoguh

to deal with what we are pulling

[tardy ingot]

eh

[past mesa]

or skill issue

[tardy ingot]

I think it will be good with practice

[past mesa]

probs both

[tardy ingot]

remember on r2e1 we died a bunch before getting through consistently

[past mesa]

yeah

we just need to run it like a 100 times

[icy nacelle]

Just apply more gun.

[past mesa]

insane

[past mesa]

speedrunner in the making

[icy nacelle]

Oh how I wish I could take this mentality and stick it into my mates.

[tardy ingot]

just apply burst cannon to the burned area

[tardy ingot]

i mean… we do run levels dozens or up to hundreds of times for a decent time

[past mesa]

no more burst canceling 😭

[icy nacelle]

See,

[past mesa]

r1a1 when ? i want to reset 2000 5000 times

[tardy ingot]

still better than PR

[icy nacelle]

it wasn't until R6 And checkpoints that they actually got more accustomed to repeating stuff.

[tardy ingot]

To beat r1a1 WR, rng is roughly 1/5000

[icy nacelle]

No joke R4-R5 (I'm gonna exclude R1-R3 Since it was just duos at the time) we didn't do shit,

because we'd run a level, fail it once and they'd be mad about it and wouldn't replay it.

[tardy ingot]

Oof

[past mesa]

same tbh

[icy nacelle]

Instead of replaying the level and actually learning it they'd move onto the next available,

suffer the same,

and now because "we can't beat any of them" they'd just stop playing GTFO.

[tardy ingot]

Me and my friends were always time bound. Tho we did have a limit if we failed multiple deep runs on say r4c3

unironically. That behaviour is due to shifts in the gaming industry. Hand holding everything

[icy nacelle]

Technically that helped just because out of spite I would go soloing into those levels as much as I could which helped me get better than them but I'm still salty about it.

[tardy ingot]

let them play gen 4 pkmn, they also quitting that cuz it doesnt hand out 1 million rare candies?

[past mesa]

one of every team of 4 continues to play this game

it is a fact

[icy nacelle]

I don't help when I hand hold them.

[tardy ingot]

hand holding from the game

gtfo doesnt do that

even checkpoints dont come close

[icy nacelle]

The mate I was duoing R1-R3 With pretty much? Yeah I've carried him through a couple of Halo LASOs since I've done them all multiple times with my brother.

[tardy ingot]

to what some games do

[icy nacelle]

The fun thing is he wants to do the remaining ones and I'm like like NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO because that's the extent in which my hand holding isn't enough to carry him through.

[craggy pier]

Which levels are too hard to carry?

[tardy ingot]

none?

all?

if you are good enough

If they are bad enough

if a player avoids teamscans

then you cant do r7a1

[craggy pier]

I meant for @icy nacelle

[tardy ingot]

Ooooh

[icy nacelle]

The ones that stuck us were R6D3/D4 (but admittedly this was more than anything because we only had a glance at them and didn't commit to more than one attempt), R7E1 And currently R2D2.

R2D2 Is definitely carryable though,

we almost did it on our 2nd run we just didn't know where the last terminal was and ran out of time which fucked us.

But now we've just fucked up a few times on earlier stuff but I'm fine with it (they're getting a little mad tho) since we're otherwise improving the stuff we've been repeating.

[craggy pier]

I think R2C2, D2, E1 and R7C2PE, C3PE, D1 overload, D2, E1 I can't carry by myself. Carry meaning the other players haven’t done the level before but they still contribute well.

I can’t do R7B3PE if my team isnt switched on

[icy nacelle]

I can't talk about EXT/OVL/PEs since I generally avoid it honestly.

[upper ginkgo]

you can still tour guide but not carry

[icy nacelle]

The sad part about that?

We got stuck on that for a bit, on the Extreme. They kept fucking up in the other dimension.

We actually did the OVL Effectively first try,

we only failed because uh.. the guy carrying the Hisec dropped it and forgot to pick it back up.

[craggy pier]

Bruhhhh

I would be so mad

[icy nacelle]

I wasn't even mad.

I was laughing my ass off.

It was the first time I heard him so dejected and apologetic towards me too and I'm like this is just too funny.

[craggy pier]

;w;

Well I already have the clear so if you fuck it up that’s your loss

[icy nacelle]

But the Extreme held us up for a few runs and in one of the runs our host DC'd after we'd done it and we had to restart.

[craggy pier]

After done what?

[icy nacelle]

The Extreme.

[craggy pier]

oh secondary

[icy nacelle]

We finished it and were heading back through main when his game dieded.

[craggy pier]

Sadge

I was stuck on that level for a bit

[icy nacelle]

Tbf tho,

I did B3PE With bots prior to doing it with the boys.

So I think if I hadn't done that we might've had more issues with the OVL.

[craggy pier]

First time we tried it we failed a few times so opted to just finish with main and secondary but when we gor back to extraction game said we needed the cargo even tho we didn’t open overload that time

Certified checkpoint moment

[icy nacelle]

I'm glad I've yet to run into a checkpoint issue once.

[craggy pier]

Cos you never use them (obviously)

Cupid stunt is a funny name I’m stealing that

[icy nacelle]

I stole it originally so I can't argue with that.

[craggy pier]

LOL

[past mesa]

It is fine to not join.

This run won’t go well

[craggy pier]

I believe in you

@icy nacelle surely we play sometime. 300 ping gaming

[icy cave]

But those are the best ways to do levels 😭

[dry pumice]

Define "best"

Most painful? Most frustruating? Most time consuming?

[craggy pier]

Most fun

Most challenging

[icy nacelle]

I like 'em but I also have a limit to how much I want to suffer.

[icy cave]

also numbers, they have to align

I want my clears equal

[icy cave]

Most fun

[craggy pier]

I wonder if I'd like the idea of Sectors more if they were something else, like Paths

[dry pumice]

The optimal amount of clears is 4,2,2,1

[craggy pier]

Do any graphics settings affect the visibility of shadow enemies

As in, Overload being an entirely different objective and a different extraction

[dry pumice]

Someone told me its shadow resolution. I increased mine and frankly i don't feel a difference

[craggy pier]

For what it's worth I've done maps with everything on Low and had no issue

That doesn't mean Low is as good as High as far as visibility of shadows go

I assume that ain't the case

I've recently pumped up the light effects a bit and I'll admit that Bloom is really starting to look like a detriment to the game

[fierce nebula]

BRUGHHGHGH

[icy cave]

the optimal is 69,69,69,69

as long as they are the same

tbh

but at this point only main is just bland and too easy. so PE from the start is da way

you'll be like that before you know it

[vale rose]

Is there any reward for completing secondary objects while on a level in GTFO? Do I get extra cosmetics at all? Or is it simply more gameplay and increased difficulty?

[ocean spindle]

u get the experience, the fun and probably many many scares
i would say for a first run, try to see the secondary objectives, then if u want play only the main, complete the level then come back to it when u feel experienced to take the challenge

gives it replayability

:]

[noble sierra]

In R4/R5, levels progression require extreme/overload. In R6/R7, secondary/overload has extra cosmetics. Right now they are really just "optional objectives"

[vale rose]

I see, thanks for the info

[midnight gazelle]

Completing optional objectives does give additional cosmetic (GTFO tells you what you need to do to unlock new apparel)
Other than that, it builds on difficulty and overall makes the game more fun

[tardy ingot]

They removed that @midnight gazelle

[midnight gazelle]

Removed what

[tardy ingot]

Optional objectives giving cosmetics

[midnight gazelle]

That doesnt sound right?

[tardy ingot]

i mean, yeah it doesnt

[ocean spindle]

but they did

[tardy ingot]

but they made it for every main obective instead of X mains and X sec/ov

[midnight gazelle]

Thats kinda stupid ngl

Either way, if you dont do the optional objectives you are missing out on the other 75% of the game lol

[tardy ingot]

for now
once r4/5 drops youll miss out on like 50%

💀

[craggy pier]

so you'll miss less?

[tardy ingot]

oh wait

i missread

[craggy pier]

happens

[tardy ingot]

i mean you arent missing 75% rn, more like 25%

cuz … no optionals in r1/r2

[midnight gazelle]

I’m saying 75% of the game because 66% of objectives (on average) are optional objectives then I added another 11% for PE clears

Im not really looking forward to R4 alteration

Because what made R4 so unique to me was that you were able to bunny hop

And honestly felt like they kinda designed the levels on that lmao

[tardy ingot]

It would be 66% if every. Single. Level had sec and overload

[midnight gazelle]

Yep

Im too lazy to do the math

So 66%

[tardy ingot]

R7 itself isnt even around 50%

[midnight gazelle]

Sucks to suck

[tardy ingot]

You could bunny hop in r1-5

[midnight gazelle]

Not in the alterations you cant

[tardy ingot]

yeah, but it wasnt unique to og r4

[midnight gazelle]

I am aware

[tardy ingot]

And it wasnt designed around it either

[wary linden]

thinking levels were design around an optional hidden mechanic lol

[midnight gazelle]

A mechanic that technically wasn’t intended however the playerbase made a lot of strategies based on jt

[wary linden]

what strategies... all bunny hopping did was making stealth go faster since you could basically go at running speed if done correctly. so the worst part of the gameplay was less tedious.
no strat required you to bunny hop to accomplish them

[midnight gazelle]

R4D2, with infinite stamina and being able to bunny hop you were able to kite shadows around the extreme objective room and keep the shadows distracted while one person moves the cargo crate to the extraction point

Not intended but still a valid strategy to beat the mission

[wary linden]

lmao bunny hopping is not the center of that strat. KITING is

bunny hopping is actually useless there

sliding is better

[weary mesa]

Clueless

R4/R5 were designed around kiting

For sure

[midnight gazelle]

Sorry for a mixup of terms smh

[wary linden]

not enough ammo in r4/r5 guys

[midnight gazelle]

Yes that’s what I was trying to point at

However kiting is kinda dead with the new mechanics

Due to stamina

[weary mesa]

It's there

[wary linden]

they were not design with kiting in mind

[midnight gazelle]

Not really

[wary linden]

you can still circle kite lol

[weary mesa]

Just not as egregious

[tardy ingot]

long kiting is the hardest hit

but you can still do it all. Its just harder and requires you to use the terrain

[midnight gazelle]

True

[tardy ingot]

i mean. You can argue that r4 and r5 were balanced around using melee a lot. But not around kiting

[wary linden]

why do i have so much extra ammo left behind in the maps then? and i shoot

[midnight gazelle]

In r4?

[wary linden]

yes

[tardy ingot]

sgx tbf thats also experience diff

[wary linden]

there was more resources then needed in r4

[tardy ingot]

on average levels like r5c3 want you to use melee to stealth

[wary linden]

in every level

[tardy ingot]

same for stuff like r4b1 (on a beginner scale)

[midnight gazelle]

Outside of E1, that wasn’t my experience tbh

[tardy ingot]

but ammo was abundant enough

[wary linden]

and people did the whole 1st part with sentries only, no ammo at all they wasted it all

too much tool is also part of too much resources

[tardy ingot]

yea true

sentrys also made the last part ridicolusly easy with the stacked up ammo

[wary linden]

the only level you can be low on ammo is by doing r4d2 overload only in r4. most of your resources of the PE version comes from the extreme sectors

[vale rose]

Is it possible to force the game into Exclusive Fullscreen? It absolutely refuses to do so for me. When I put the game on that setting and then click somewhere on the screen, the game reverts back to Maximized Window.
||Don't mean to ruin such a lovely conversation you guys are having, just don't want this to get buried. Carry on.||

[midnight gazelle]

Lmao okay that’s why i felt that way because that was the level I primarily played

[wary linden]

there is still more then enough ammo in it to do it and shoot all the way through.. even without going into the resources rooms

[wary linden]

yeah sorry idk so i can't help you on that

[vale rose]

I'm sure someone else will come along, thanks for reading I guess - hahahha

[ocean spindle]

maybe u could post about it on tech support

[vale rose]

There's a channel for that?

Was tryna look around...

Or do you mean actually file a whole damn thing just for that?

[ocean spindle]

#1049599987878723635

[vale rose]

Ah, thanks-- I was taking a look, but briefly. Discord has changed quite a bit from the good ol' 2015 days-- thought that was an area I didn't have access to. Thanks again

[lunar rain]

What counts as a separate room? Is it a door or something else ?

[spark wolf]

you should look at the information in the environment

[ocean spindle]

sometimes it doesnt have to be
it just has to be a separate area, so basically most of the areas u see are divided by doors, u can see it on the signs on the wall or the doors [areas are the letter on a zone btw, zone_23 area A]
someitmes when u are goin through a room tho, u will notice the signs on the same room change, on one side it might say zone_1 Z and in the other one zone_1 X

[spark wolf]

like the TRAINING told you

[ocean spindle]

normally that signifies the room separates at some point

[spark wolf]

LOOK AT THE SIGNS

LOOK AT THE TEXT ON THE DOORS

[ocean spindle]

oki calm down its okey

o_o;;

[spark wolf]

sorry my keybaord is breaking

[lunar rain]

Yes but like sometimes you have really big room

Like in r1c2

[ocean spindle]

uh in that case u should yeah look at the signs, cause some of those do divide into two areas but others dont

[lunar rain]

Kk thank you

[uncut rune]

what are some of the general best loadouts? planning to do r1c1 tmrw with mates and kinda wanna try different comps

[ocean spindle]

well what i normally say is no guns bad guns, no guns best guns

all guns are perfectly usable and they depend on the level...

but for R1C1 i could recommend machineguns, assault rifle or pdw, sniper, precision rifle [unpopular opinion], burst rifle...

prob hel revolver would work very nicely too

uh carbine, bullpup if u play with people and w/o bots

blablablah

[uncut rune]

yehh i was rocking the hel revolver and choke mode throughout r1b2

i often try and balance out the range our team lacks

so we have two snipers one with infared so we dont need bioscanner

and we have two burst sentries with 1 cfoam and mine

[ocean spindle]

i actually, would recommend u get rid of the mines n foam for this level and grab the biotracker back

also i actually didnt know if i should recommend the chokemod on this level, cause its a pretty slow gun but has good range too,

it just comes to taste i guess

u can try it out n see how u go with it

[uncut rune]

okay, would u say more damage based weapons with more ammunition?

and quicker reload

[ocean spindle]

... maybe a bit of both
like, guns with range mostly, but also with ammo, u really just need the mix
unlike somethin like R1A1 where i could say 'oh short range weapons and low damage would work nicely' in here its just all about havin a bit of everythin

i would say u swap the chokemod by a sniper, the koning, not the precision rifle, and then uh let the rest of players kinda choose whatevs they can

[uncut rune]

thank you i'll play around with them and see how it goes

i feel like we are still tryna get a better understanding of what to do so we can finish faster

coz it feels very punishing when we take time and then someone makes a little mistake and it fucks everything up

[ocean spindle]

well this level is fairly short
if r1b1 took u like an hour and a half this might take u 45 or so minutes

its a great level for tryin out guns too

[uncut rune]

also can u kill the big striker with melee to the back of the head with like 3 ppl

[tardy ingot]

big striker head explodes on first full charge hit

but 3 people can still insta kill it yes

also

[ocean spindle]

yes, but with weapons with high damage, spear n hammer

on three hits

[tardy ingot]

always take bio tracker

Thermals dont replace bio. They compliment it at best

especially since bio makes sniper sentry busted as hell

[uncut rune]

how does it do that, is it like pinged location?

[ocean spindle]

have u read the description of the sentries?

[uncut rune]

ive never used the biotracker myself

[tardy ingot]

Usually having 1 actual sniper (not the precision rifle, thats actually very far off from being a big guy killer/sniper) is good to deal with giants/hybrids. But a choke mod can do that too, just slower overall

[tardy ingot]

Biotracker can ping enemies (absolutely broken and at no cost)

This buffs sniper sentry firerate and makes it use less ammo on those pinged enemies

[uncut rune]

ohh i see

[tardy ingot]

But yeah, skip on foam/mines for r1c1

and always take a bio

[uncut rune]

yehs i read the descriptions

[ocean spindle]

bio bio que ves una cosita

[tardy ingot]

its just a universally strong tool

[uncut rune]

which sentry is better coz recently the shotgun sentry has been doing a lot of damage but obvi it runs out quick

would it be good to do 3 burst sentries or mix it up

[ocean spindle]

uhh prob 2 snipers and one burst

[solemn flint]

Mix it up

But take 2 sniper sentry

[ocean spindle]

or two burst and one sniper

however u like

[solemn flint]

They thin out the waves alot

[ocean spindle]

but shotgun is, short range and is not gonna help u here

[solemn flint]

Burst sentry for support fire when u are reloading

[ocean spindle]

... rlly?

i never saw it that way

oh god ur right

[solemn flint]

Choke mode said freck that range bushrimp

[tardy ingot]

Shotgun sentry = ammowaster 9000
It can shoot quick and thus theoretically do a lot of dmg. But 1. it misses a lot
2. its short af range
3. it doesnt actually kill reliably
4. it uses ammo up way too quickly

[ocean spindle]

shotgun sentry

i was hopin no one told em about it

i was like 'oh its oki but not on this level'

woops

[tardy ingot]

Sniper alone is a good long range kill sentry. With bio its a wave clear tool
Super effiicent

Burst is similar to non ping sniper. But its more supportive due to lower dmg in exchange for more bullets and higher firerate

[uncut rune]

i see its all delusions with the shotgun sentry huh

[ocean spindle]

its, only nice on one or
two positions on levels

on some levels

[tardy ingot]

its just… the only thing that actually will hurt your teams ressource economy

its useable if you rly want to

but by far the worst „weak“ thing

spear, precision rifle, bullpup rifle are the other 3

[ocean spindle]

precision rifle is good enough on r1c1 no one can change my mind

[uncut rune]

oh u dont like the bullpup rifle

[ocean spindle]

and bullpup with three teammates not bots

is good too i mean

in case my, writin got confusin

i write badly

[tardy ingot]

its good enough as in. The level is easy and it can be cleared with sentry + melee

[ocean spindle]

melee? i guess

idk i dont like sufferin that much

[tardy ingot]

Oh i like its design

The reload is just super long/bad and its stats arent good enough to compensate for that. Overall on the weaker side
Use it if you like it tho! Just dont tell anybody its good or smth…

[solemn flint]

Precicion rifle, the only thing that help me in r7e1 bc of thermal and i hate pdw

[uncut rune]

ahahah okay okay

[ocean spindle]

SAMEEEE
not on e1 but SAMEEE

PDW I HATE IT

IK ITS GOOD

[tardy ingot]

man i wish they didnt cut prec rifle mag size

[ocean spindle]

WHY DO I DONT LIKE IT HELP

[tardy ingot]

Hipfire pdw more

[solemn flint]

I know

[ocean spindle]

THATS NOT THE PROBLEM KDMSKS

[tardy ingot]

The recoil seemingly vanishes

[solemn flint]

But its make me so frecking mad

[ocean spindle]

its just AAAAAA

i hate it

gimme the smg pls

[solemn flint]

When u put 3x scope on a frecking smg

[tardy ingot]

I mean i dont use it much either

i far prefer hel shotty, revo, dmr

[solemn flint]

What are u even doing with your life

3x scope

Reallye

Why

[ocean spindle]

i dont liek hel shotty either hAAAAh

i hate all the good guns

im such a disaster

[solemn flint]

Hel shotty fun

[uncut rune]

i also have a question about how u go about clearing rooms coz we move really slow all crouched until all the enemies are dead but then we look online and ppl are like running it down in the rooms

[solemn flint]

Knife mate

[tardy ingot]

i mean it depends on how confident you are and how experienced

[solemn flint]

Knife make everything better

But to be honest, skill

[tardy ingot]

like in speedruns obviously people run past stuff and beginners will take it uber slow

[solemn flint]

Pratice and be brave

[tardy ingot]

Big advice here tho

Get used to walking in stealth UNTIL you realize it will wake up otherwise

[ocean spindle]

yeah goin like that u need just, so much practice

[tardy ingot]

this will speed up your movement

and youll realize that you can charge and walk at enemys

[solemn flint]

Dont be scared of the flicking sleepers

[tardy ingot]

which speeds up clearing if the room isnt like 10+ enemies

[ocean spindle]

i didnt learned to do that, till i had to, otherwise i prefer takin my time so so much more

[solemn flint]

Just remember, they are sleepers, and u are john wick

John wick kill everything so fast

[ocean spindle]

i am gonna be scared, they are bad funk

[solemn flint]

No, they are just a punching bag

[ocean spindle]

no they lick me n 12 health gone

sad

[solemn flint]

John wick mode on and u will be gud

[mossy aurora]

one situation in which a lot of newer players crawl through stealth is in clearing groups of sleepers. if theres a pair sleeping together fairly close, a lot of newer players will wait until its safe to pick them off one at a time. but you can literally just walk up to the first one and kill it with a full charge, immediately start charging again, and once your hammer is more than half charged, you can kill the 2nd one by hitting it in the head before it screams or attacks you

[solemn flint]

I am the doom slayer so freck the health

I heal when i get kill

[ocean spindle]

i was gonna say somethin but if i say it they just gonna poison em more so

anyway bat is cool

[solemn flint]

Knife make this alot ezier

[ocean spindle]

i stand by my thoughts

[tardy ingot]

Well yes

But generally its good to learn how to do it with hammer

[noble sierra]

That's a natural outcome when you played enough/get rid of the fear and know the game mechanics

[tardy ingot]

since that teaches better habbits

[solemn flint]

Me getting addict to knife after 10 hours

And now i cant use the hammer

[ocean spindle]

now its a discussion about melee mechanics, get on the round table kids

[ocean spindle]

cool

[tardy ingot]

best way to learn

Knife vs giants
Hammer vs smalls for multikills

tbf when you do a solo 4 sleeper multi without them waking the room cleanly it just feels nice

[solemn flint]

With knife, mutiply the number of killed small sleeper by 1000

But tbh

Plz dont be me

Dont get addict to knife

[ocean spindle]

i aspire to that

[uncut rune]

thanks guys for the info

[solemn flint]

Later level require alot of hammer

So plz dont

[uncut rune]

i'll try multiple runs tmrw

[ocean spindle]

no it doesnt
if im on r2c2 w/o hammer i can go further

[ocean spindle]

aightyyy good luck n remember doesnt matter numbers as long as u like the gun u are gonna be cool with it

[solemn flint]

From d tier u need hammer for giants kill and load of stuff

[ocean spindle]

never

[solemn flint]

Hammer make scout kill less risky

[ocean spindle]

spear makes it easier

ill refuse to take hammer

first ill play with spear before hammer

[tardy ingot]

no level requires anything

Is hammer broken and spear scuff? Yes

[ocean spindle]

fuck hammer

[tardy ingot]

can you do knife only r7c3

yes

i feel like r7e1 might be one of a few levels you need sentrys for. But idk how much ammo the level gives exactly

[ocean spindle]

then im gonna do it

[tardy ingot]

fn did already

[ocean spindle]

i can do it too

to spite u all hammer users

[solemn flint]

how can u kill charger with knife

it takes 2 hit

[mossy aurora]

cfoam it

[solemn flint]

no

[mossy aurora]

u mean in general or for knife r7c3

[solemn flint]

not gonna waste my precious slime for that

in general

the only reason i use cfoam is for charger scout

or if my team kill the giant too slow

[uncut rune]

do u guys genrally not use cfoam?

[solemn flint]

we use it

alot

[ocean spindle]

yes

[solemn flint]

but usually mines and sentry are more recommended than cfoam

[uncut rune]

okay just coz when u guys said no cfoam for r1c1 i was a lil shook

[ocean spindle]

well foam is very useful i do use it a lot

not on this level tho

u will get it

its oki

[solemn flint]

the down side with cfoam is that 1, cfoam wont stay long if spray on floor, 2 cfoam is usually used to kill charger scout, 3 cfoam will stack up enemy so if u dont have the power to kill the cfoam wave then dont

[ocean spindle]

well we dont need to spoil all the enemiesssss

its okeyyyy

[solemn flint]

no door to cfoam, floor cfoam= trash( but cfoam floor+ ladder=cheese)

[ocean spindle]

... thats not cheese that just tactics

[solemn flint]

cfoam is used as a tool

[solemn flint]

i want to say that too

but everyone say that cfoam+ladder=cheese

especially in r2e1

[ocean spindle]

... eh maybe

i stand with what i say

[solemn flint]

idk how ladder and cfoam suppose to work so dont ask me if that is cheese or not

[ocean spindle]

i would explain it but we have a newie :]

so im gonna shut up skmdk

[solemn flint]

there are down side with cfoam, so usually if u run cfoam u need mines

only some level where u need cfoam and not mine

not gonna spoil that

[mossy aurora]

it works becasue of enemy collision, they cant run past cfoamed enemy and ladder makes them have to go 1 by one

[willow harbor]

a lot of people say cheesing it, when what they actually mean is doing it the easiest way possible, confusing it with doing something that's obviously a glitch/bug cheese

[solemn flint]

cheese is when u do things the not intented way

[willow harbor]

my point is that people use it when they shouldn't.

[solemn flint]

Still not know if ladder cfoam is cheese or not

[ocean spindle]

nah

[willow harbor]

seems as valid as mining a door

[solemn flint]

I mean like

We are just using every bit of the game mechanic to our advantage

[mossy aurora]

you think the devs intended for you to stop an entire spawn caps worth of enemies by cfoaming a ladder?

[solemn flint]

Ido

Its their game

[mossy aurora]

just liek they intended for you to be able to crouch behind a wall and melee babies through them right?

[solemn flint]

I dont know what they intened

[willow harbor]

idk did they intend to take out and entire wave at once by cfoaming doors and then mining them?

[mossy aurora]

yes

which is why they fixed mines in r5

[ocean spindle]

i think it wasnt possible before then it became possible again

[willow harbor]

exactly

[solemn flint]

So i cant say anything

[mossy aurora]

r6c2 extreme s scan standing on the pipe below the scan was intended

[craggy pier]

In r7d2 does the person who picks up usb have to plug it in or can anyone

[vital sierra]

anyone

[craggy pier]

ah ok

[analog sphinx]

Can you drop items on the floor?

Or place them in shelves without having to swap

[ocean spindle]

nope
u need to swap with other consumable

[noble sierra]

No you can't. And don't bother suggest this feature.

[craggy pier]

whats up with putting the mine inside the blood door, is it more effective? if so why?

I seemingly get better results but that might be confirmation bias

[willow harbor]

cone reaches barely more from my understanding

you don't get like those 3 stragglers

[vital sierra]

i did a funny

[craggy pier]

what

[vital sierra]

https://youtu.be/-e1yzhR0gFQ?t=103

[craggy pier]

why

also I don't put in that far back

there's like a little square on the corner

[vital sierra]

enemy doing a door smashing "animation" when blood door is opened will not scream until the door is fully opened

it didn't really matter but, it will have a bigger cone behind the door

[craggy pier]

also

sp🤮ar user

[solemn flint]

its the same thing

[solemn flint]

we all know that a fact

but still

people still use spear

[vital sierra]

eh

i used spear because i want to

[solemn flint]

yea

spear is to defendsive to be a weapon

[obsidian depot]

Bring back spear multikills as a feature

[craggy pier]

can cfoam mines foam doors and if so whats the easiest way to do that

[noble sierra]

Yes. If you have a high wall facing the door that'd be the easiest. Otherwise I usually put it on the back-side of the panel to open the door

[craggy pier]

cool, thanks

[vale rose]

Is there any other gun that can one-shot a Scout? Read that the Mastaba Revolver can one-shot a Scout, apparently.

[icy nacelle]

Revolver (back of the head from close range IIRC), Shotgun, Choke-Mod Shotgun, High-Cal, Precision Rifle, Sniper.

I'm missing any (out of those available in-game atm)?

[minor fractal]

Combat shotgun can technically back-head.

[vale rose]

What about the high caliber pistol? Does 22+ damage or so, more than the Mastaba

[icy nacelle]

Yeah, High-Cal.

[vale rose]

Ah, I see. Thanks.

[craggy pier]

HC anywhere on head at pretty good range

[noble sierra]

Almost all non-auto special can, except combat shotty/revolver/hel gun has some restriction about orientation and distance.

[honest zodiac]

do the sentrys hit things no on their lvl of placement? like up stairs or down stairs?

cuz it seems like they dont even if they in the cones

[minor fractal]

Yes, but they struggle with steep slopes.

Generally it's better to have them looking up a slope from a distance rather than being right at the lip looking up or down.

[mossy aurora]

The sentries don't lose damage because of shooting against gravity?

[craggy pier]

in r7c2 if you open overload before doing the scan can enemies spawn from there?

[mossy aurora]

yes

[craggy pier]

mmmmmmmmmmm

ok ty

ig we got lucky then

[mossy aurora]

the donut room is 2 rooms awy

[craggy pier]

yeah

still might be worth doing it first anyway rather than clearing it in fog

[mossy aurora]

you can do the terminal scan, put in the cells to stop the error, then go back and clear overload

[craggy pier]

if you're doing it the easy way

which I would prefer to do despite backtracking

[mossy aurora]

yeah but im saying you dont have to clear it in fog if you clear overload after the scan'

[craggy pier]

yeah

but if you are doing overload during error wouldn't it make sense to clear it first

[mossy aurora]

definitely

[craggy pier]

[mossy aurora]

wait

oh nvm yeah

[craggy pier]

do uplink alarms always ignore the 2 room rule

I did R2Bsomething uplink level and first wave spawned in adjacent room

[mossy aurora]

Except for some specific ones, uplinks will always spawn enemies in the same zone. If there is not a room 2 rooms away from all players in the same zone enemies can spawn 1 room away

[craggy pier]

thank u

[craggy pier]

is the any purpose for the bio m2

[solemn flint]

infomation

sniper sentry syntisis or something( i forgot what they call)

but mostly information

information is a powerful tool

powerful enough that u must bring bio in every level( unless if that level is really ez)

[craggy pier]

no

like

press right click

on bio

[mossy aurora]

No purpose

[craggy pier]

ok ty

[solemn flint]

just for fun

u can zoom in

and zoom out

like every other tool

expect for sentry

cfoam can zoon

mines can zoom

why cant bio zoom

[craggy pier]

I am very well aware of the perks of bio, bio is my crutch also I don't trust randos to use it effectively

[fierce nebula]

OH mouse2

just pinging a single enemy for whatever reason

after you zoom in obviously

[solemn flint]

i remember someone said about focus on 1 thing about sniper sentry

they will focus the ping enemy first

[vital sierra]

it was to focus sentry into 1 powerful enemy

like 10 striker and 1 giant

and you want to focus giant

the convo already happen

the feature isn't finished
the feature isn't good

=> the feature got removed

[analog sphinx]

lmao i suppose it's been suggested ad nauseam?

[sudden ether]

Just started playing today and completed the first rundown and saw it said Completed [1,-,-,-] under artifact heat, what does it mean?

Do I need to complete the level multiple times?

[icy cave]

It's the optionals. [main, secondary, overload, PE]. If there is a - it means that objective is not there

So you good

[fierce nebula]

no, it just tracks completions like a stat sheet

[icy cave]

Otherwise it would say [1,0,0,0]

[icy cave]

You can see in advance what levels have secondaries in them by clicking the level on the rundown menu and looking under sectors.

For a quick example click on R7B3

[sudden ether]

Oh okay I have another question. When you die the artifact heat lowers, why is that?

[icy cave]

Incentive for players to not redo the same level over and over to farm artifacts

which would be dumb anyways cause boosters are not needed to finish this game at all.

[fierce nebula]

nothing feels worse than wasting an aggressive booster on a wipe
but then you complete the level without a booster anyway lul

[icy cave]

When people whine about losing a booster on a run, I roll my eyes so loud that my wife wakes up

[sudden ether]

oh alright thanks for the help

[icy cave]

No problem m8

[fierce nebula]

your "wife" but true lmao

[icy cave]

And don't worry about secondaries etc too much there are none in R1 R2

[icy cave]

Yeah, how would I call her otherwise??🤔

[sudden ether]

Thanks a lot

[fierce nebula]

gtfo players don't have girlfriends, let alone a wife, silly

[icy cave]

Guess I'm an exception then 😂

[icy cave]

But yes most in general chat would not have a GIRLfriend

[fierce nebula]

yeah idk what to say now lmao

[icy cave]

Aha gotcha !

[fierce nebula]

ah you got me

[craggy pier]

adsing on bio has a purpose, as adsing lets you shoot immediately after a weapon swap

so you can initiate a bio ping a few milliseconds fasters

[mossy aurora]

🤯

[craggy pier]

so insane right

[mossy aurora]

u dont need ads for full duration right?

just swap and right click quickly?

[craggy pier]

yea

[mossy aurora]

[craggy pier]

🗒️ ✍️

https://streamable.com/2tna07

like 2 millisecs difference

[latent obsidian]

Its the biotracker sway bug 😄

[fierce nebula]

"bug"

[supple scroll]

Does a terminal ping on an item near a sleeper raise their alertness up by 1 level or fully awake them?

[turbid horizon]

Neither

Iirc

[supple scroll]

Great, thanks!

[solemn flint]

me having to do 3 leave and rejoin bc of checkpoint

thanks game

[fierce nebula]

skill issue

[craggy pier]

10c issue

[fierce nebula]

dev skill issue

[weary mesa]

Casual issue

[scenic bison]

Hi i have a question, i wanna see how can i increase the objective text size. I have a 1366*768 monitor and running at full resolution and me and my friend are having trouble trying to decipher the numbers for the objectives or even passwords. and hes using a full 1080 p resolution monitor. like trying to see if the Key_Red is either 608 or 809 is kinda bonkers.

[craggy pier]

a bit bizzare since it's usually the other way around, I play in 4K and dont really have much issues with reading the text in this game while I'm often troubled by that in other games

[ocean spindle]

in the options, in the HUD section, u can adjust the size of all the different things on the screen

inclusin the objective tab

[scenic bison]

Thank ill give it a check, yesterday i saw the HUD scale option, turned it all the way up and everything stayed the same

Also is there an option to turn off that "Mirage" like effect that text has? Or at least if I'm able to lower the effect because I do like it but it also affects visibility

[ocean spindle]

uh the double effect on the text, nope, but theres a ||mod|| for it

i think so at least

[desert falcon]

There is a setting for it; "HUD pixel effects" that you can turn down to 0. You can also turn "HUD Skewing" down to remove the curve effect if that helps. But note that none of those effect stuff in the menu itself, it's only for the HUD once you're down in a mission.

[scenic bison]

Ok thank you changing those effects improved visibility by a lot!

[past star]

You’re not supposed to see double, it’s all in your head 😎

[potent abyss]

I've played this game on and off, why can I only select rundowns R1, R2, & R7? Do I only have access to the rundowns I played in the past? Is this my punishment for not being a committed gamer?

[ocean spindle]

nonono
soo basically u know how rundowns worked like in fortnite, once there was a new one the past one was eliminated

when they released R7, after a bit they decided to start releasing the old rundowns again, so they released the 'alts', alternative rundowns, the past ones but a lil changed with some tweaks n changes

so far they only have released altR1 and altR2, R7 its still there cause they never eliminated it

[potent abyss]

Oh awesome, thanks for the answer!

[ocean spindle]

yeh its oki, altR3 is gonna release prob in february too at some point

[night junco]

So I've had GTFO for a while and only played it once because the first time I did play it, I ran out of ammo so quickly I couldn't finish a level. How exactly are you supposed to conserve ammo when 1 encounter and half my ammo is gone?

[craggy pier]

stealth sleeping enemies

shoot during alarms

also

play with 3 other ppl

[night junco]

just how different is it to play with people than bots

[craggy pier]

much much easier

[ocean spindle]

yes as a person that only plays with bots
its easier with people

[craggy pier]

the game is designed to be played with 4 ppl

[ocean spindle]

... also yes dont
shoot every enemy u see

i guess u did the training right

[night junco]

literally the only thing I do lmao

[night junco]

A while back, yes

I like visibility so I tend to not stealth enemies

Always keep my flashlight on

[ocean spindle]

yeh so if u gonna play in this way at all
ur gonna need to learn stealth like the back of ur palm

otherwise... only like 5 levels u will be able to complete

out of like
70

[night junco]

this game reminds me of how slow paced ready or not is

its nice but not when alone

[ocean spindle]

yeah if ur gonna play with bots
u dont have to learn stealth
u have to **master **it

cause bots dont really help u unless u screw up

[night junco]

time to head for lfg

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[ocean spindle]

yes :]
#lfg-beginners

nice place to start

[night junco]

oh thats better than north america

[ocean spindle]

skmdk yeah
also uh one more thingy

ask to not be carried

cause its fun to learn n stuff

[night junco]

definitely

[ocean spindle]

so if theres a pro thats like 'gonna teach u how to play!'
tell em to not carry

that happens a lot

[night junco]

one last question, is spamming the fuck out of enemies not worth?

[rancid tapir]

So a friend of mine and I just bought the game, the terminal to complete A1 is not working, are we doing something wrong or is this a bug?

[ocean spindle]

like shootin em? or spammin em how

[night junco]

20x body shots vs 1x head shot

[ocean spindle]

is it with the 'detectin personnel' logo?

[ocean spindle]

ohh some guns yes some guns not really
u can imply it by idk, shotgun vs sniper n stuff

but generally go for the head

it is worth

[rancid tapir]

No the prompt to press e isnt showing up

[ocean spindle]

but it shows like the text like if u were usin it

[rancid tapir]

Yes

[ocean spindle]

cause uh then ur
yeah thats prob a bug, but well u dont need the terminal to finish the level either
are u searchin for the hsu?

[rancid tapir]

Yes

[night junco]

Guns in this game handle horrible (which is good thing, makes it more realistic) so full autoing isnt worth to me so I try to use semi-auto weapons like pistols, or a marksmen rifle. So I guess lining up head shots is worth than

[ocean spindle]

oki so uh advice, dont look for the boxes n stuff for it, it isnt a key
look in the shelves of the zone u went for it, specially on the back far right room

[ocean spindle]

yeah dmr pistol sniper precision rifle, all those guns are made for headshots... well pistol a bit for bodyshots too since u stagger
but well i would recommend usin every single guns at least once or twice, get to know em, really define what u like and what u dont

same with the melee

[night junco]

is there such thing like a shooting range?

[ocean spindle]

uh no

[solemn flint]

not rlly

[ocean spindle]

theres levels where u can go pew pew

but later on

[solemn flint]

u dont need to spray that hard

[ocean spindle]

so uh for now just kinda vibe with the guns

[solemn flint]

u can hold left click for 1 2 sec and release it

or do single shot

[night junco]

alright, im going to go do something real quick and then ima go to lfg. Thanks for all the help

[solemn flint]

there is techniclly

[ocean spindle]

oki good luck

[night junco]

thanks

[rancid tapir]

wyhere do we collect the dna sample?

[solemn flint]

hsu

[ocean spindle]

well, if u see on the shelves u will see a big thing that looks like a rectangle, about the size of a person
that thing is an hsu

u can read text on em and itll say "HSU_939"

u need to search for one of em

[solemn flint]

inside of that is a person or a meat globe

or maybe worse

baby

[ocean spindle]

read the numbers cause the prompt to recollect the dna sample looks like pickin up an ammopack, but it is a bit hard to like do it, u gotta aim correctly

so first find it by number then try to interact with it

[solemn flint]

hug the hsu

[ocean spindle]

yes

warmth

[solemn flint]

and aborsb the unlimited powers

[ocean spindle]

dna sample has powers

[vital sierra]

is warden bot dead or is just my internet

[ocean spindle]

uh i dont

see it

[vital sierra]

he dead

schaeffer got to him

[ocean spindle]

dude they succeded

nice

[fierce nebula]

quick break the rules while we can

[ocean spindle]

uh
modding

ok thats it

[fierce nebula]

Woah Woah Woah

[solemn flint]

1 question

did they buff r7c1

bc at the full zone scan there was like 4 snatcher total

i remember there was only 2

[lusty urchin]

What about new soundtracks?

Why we have 1 fight theme? For all rundowns

[dry field]

Did they remove crouching scouts?

[icy cave]

It was 2-3 for me

4 is a good change ngl

[tardy ingot]

Keeps spawning if you take longer

[icy cave]

there are actually like 3 minimum. It's just the old battle themes were removed

[craggy pier]

Anyone else thinks the snatcher's design is weird?

I feel like it's too big and imposing for what it actually does