#gtfo-related-questions

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willow dragon
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dual wield machinepistols

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payday 2 style

dry pumice
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too hollywood for this game, thankfully

tardy ingot
dry pumice
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I just want a slow burst weapon

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not the BRT but RA-TAT-TAT type

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So i could relax leading the sleepers as he dies

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Bonus points if it kills a biter in a single burst

tardy ingot
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Whats a biter NotLikeThis

willow dragon
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a SAW would be nice for primary, but there would be something done to where if you run both the saw and one of the machineguns theres like a penalty or some shit

dry pumice
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the one that bites

weary mesa
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wtf bites

willow dragon
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they lick or they punch

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or a combination of the two

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or they shoot

dry pumice
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The small ones literally never punch

willow dragon
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chargers my guy

dry pumice
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Well yeah, the're chargers

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Hence not biters

tardy ingot
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willow dragon
dry pumice
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Im just being a contrarian, don't worry about it

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I just hate our local naming conventions

tardy ingot
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A gun with 20 dmg would be cool

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since its such a huge breakpoint vs strikers

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but we only have high cal after the change thats close

tardy ingot
willow dragon
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yes

weary mesa
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Bullrushes are pretty cool

tardy ingot
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💀

dry pumice
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"careful, there's a big black one in the room"

tardy ingot
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honestly
Striker, tank and pablo are probably the only weirdly named ones

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but 2 of the three are very catchy and pablo is immortalized

weary mesa
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I just call him John

dry pumice
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At least Pablo has character

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But strikers drive me insane

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Not only because of simplicity because they literally never strike or punch or anything

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they bite, its clearly a mouth

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Big ones do, but they're a special case

weary mesa
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They strike you with their tongues

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Simple as that

dry pumice
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I have my doubts about that thing being a tongue

weary mesa
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Alright I don't think its a mouth you don't think its tongues

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Its now a rectum

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Assers

tardy ingot
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iirc its a repurposed part of the digestive system

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or the parasite? i dont know

jagged shore
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digesters

tardy ingot
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in the end they strike you

upbeat hatch
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anyone know what to do after the first chekpoint in r7c3

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or where to go or something

past mesa
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finish it and then make it to the ammo location

upbeat hatch
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oh alright

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ty

noble sierra
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If you dunno what to do, always check the objective message on your hud

upbeat hatch
upbeat hatch
vital sierra
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the timer start after the uplink

past mesa
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are you at the 2nd cehckpoint

vital sierra
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what?

past mesa
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or the first

upbeat hatch
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ohh mbmb 2nd

past mesa
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you have to survive the door at the end of the zone will open at 15 min

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then 5 then 0

upbeat hatch
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ah alright

past mesa
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there is resources along the path you might need them gl

upbeat hatch
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alr ty

jagged shore
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how exactly do c-foam boosters work

lost flame
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Use less cfoam for ur charges basically

ocean spindle
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i think it doesnt work when u do it one by one btw

jagged shore
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does it apply to partial charges

ocean spindle
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i would think they way it works is it calculates ur complete charge of foam, minimizes the % the booster has and saves that %
so if u do it one by one, the charge is so low the % that it saves doesnt amount to nothing and it saves nothin

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i think

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this is all me speculatin

noble sierra
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They work for partial charges, but due to the rounding calculation it's better to charge at least 75% if you have c-foam boosters

soft crater
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You have no idea how many pubs that dont believe me cfoam efficiency works better for charges over 1 blob at a time

tardy ingot
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i might be wrong

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but doesnt cfoam portion ONLY work if you charge the launcher?

lunar rain
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I have always done it one by one cause it takes 9, and every time someone seems me do it they ask why I do it like that. Unless you’re the cool guy I met that just said I like your style and walked away

lunar rain
sturdy glen
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I see a lot of ppl do that I dont get why you dont just 70-80% charge it

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worst case scenario you just shoot an extra blob after or waste 1

craggy pier
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cfoam portion decreases the ammo spent when you charge it

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you shoot the same amount of blobs as you would normally, but the ammo spent is lowered

tardy ingot
weary mesa
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Nine is all you need no matter how you do it

tardy ingot
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easier to refoam tho with the actual effect

craggy pier
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One thing I noticed is that blobs go away one by one when hit by enemies

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So I spray them along the door all divided in such a way that by seeing them I can gauge how much health the foam has left

lunar rain
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was there ever a thing that was a fully auto sentry or no?

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like machine gun sort of thing

dry pumice
lunar rain
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ah ok, i just saw a clip and it had a sentry just unloading into a group

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thank you

lost flame
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you can actually still use it if you had it on a bot and never changed it

willow dragon
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My bot still has a helgun lol

craggy pier
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What's your stance on people that use non-avaible weapons?

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Personally I dont like it but I feel like a douche pointing that out

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The main thing I'm concerned with when I see that stuff is that I don't know what else they're using

tiny tundra
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There's not a ton of point since when all of the alt rundowns come out everything will be available but also being patient doesn't hurt since the currently available guns are plenty good

tardy ingot
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usually its more of a "why?"

then again i dont rly play pubs florkShrug2

tiny tundra
brisk swift
craggy pier
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I guess they can use Ubuntu

brisk swift
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Yes

ocean spindle
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i mean the pistol n the sentry

tiny tundra
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Yeah

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They both were the introduction of tungsten rounds and I think the only guns than use them (I may be wrong about the last point)

weary mesa
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R4 was the stagger update

neon gust
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if its rifle then based

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hella based

weary mesa
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Discrimination wtf

neon gust
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yes

ocean spindle
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what if it is scattergun

willow dragon
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i remember seeing a mod for prenerf scattergun at some point

dry pumice
proven narwhal
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IF A LOBBY HOST LEAVES A SESSION CAN HE JOIN BACK?

ocean spindle
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yes
the hosting will transfer to another player and the host can come back

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is tht a word, hosting?
u get it

vital sierra
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migration

static kestrel
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yo my gtfo keeps crashing when i try to load into any level, whats happening?

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ive never seen this before, and all my steam games are working EXCEPT gtfo

long ember
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Might already have an answer

noble sierra
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Try verify/re-download the game file, or see the info in #bug-reporting to fetch the log

hollow spire
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question ladies and gents, Chatterreborn the voice mod, how do i install that and where?

vital sierra
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.t modding

uneven gulchBOT
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GTFO doesn't officially support mods and we don't allow them to be played in public lobbies or voice channels on this server, and lengthy discussions should also be avoided (mentioning them is perfectly fine). However, we do recognize that a GTFO modding community exist and if you are interested in them, you are welcome to join the independent modding community Discord server. https://discord.gg/rRMPtv4FAh (If you have any more questions, please read rule #12 in the rules channel for more information.)

lunar rain
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How does the IIX syringe work? Do I have to hit giants in the back of the head to one shot them ?

past star
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Yes

solemn flint
solemn flint
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hm

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thats new

dry pumice
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Spear and hammer basiclaly have same damage

solemn flint
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then why does spear has precision bonus

past star
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I suppose you could try knife+giant invisible head bug @past mesa

dry pumice
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Spear deals sliiiiightly more on headshots, hammers deals sliiiightly more on bodyshots

solemn flint
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if i remember correctly spear do less damage when full charge but get more precision bonus than hammer

past star
dry pumice
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But the difference is small and doesn't hit any breakpoints, so there is no practical difference or application

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Spear is literally just give away sprint while charging for extra reach

past star
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Precision damage < stagger

solemn flint
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wep

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they really need to remove the spear

past star
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Yes

solemn flint
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we have hammer to deal with every problem

past star
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Bring back maul

solemn flint
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thats hammer skin if i remember correctly

past star
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Yes

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Don’t believe anyone who said gavel is better

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They’re just haters

solemn flint
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what is a gavel?

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is that a shovel

past star
dry pumice
past star
dry pumice
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But i love the reach so much, it makes things so much easier for me

past star
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My biggest flex on spear is running

solemn flint
past star
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Exactlyyyyy

solemn flint
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i dont like that

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i also dont like maul

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it need some more shape

past star
past star
lunar rain
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So would the hammer work for giants with the syringe, I just have to hit them in the back of the head ?

icy cave
icy cave
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You see so many new people playing Spear an dying because of it it's actually detrimental to the game

lunar rain
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I have tried hammer, knife, and bat. I really like the hammer. I don’t even touch the spear

lunar rain
icy cave
lunar rain
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I know, I just wanted to voice my opinion on it

icy cave
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Every youtube vid "first time playing gtfo" player has Spear. wipes to a room they wake up 😂

lunar rain
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Bat is pretty fun but I am not used to having to hit the head to kill yet

icy cave
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Would not happen with a hammer. so in a way you could say that player retention could be slightly higher if Spear was removed from the game

icy cave
lunar rain
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I feel like players get lulled into thinking the spear is good because of the range and precision damage

turbid horizon
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Spear had it’s uses

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but multihit harder to do now

lunar rain
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With the knife can you drag across multiple guys and kill them? It seems to have some end lag to it

icy cave
# turbid horizon Spear had it’s uses

I once told a player wiping on R7C2 that he needed to drop the Spear and take hammer. Cause they kept waking up rooms. Some white knights pounced and told him nah Spear is fine use whatever you want. He is still stuck on R7C2 1.5 months later, still uses Spear, still dies same way. I see him regularly on twitch.

turbid horizon
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Bruh

lunar rain
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That’s kinda funny

tardy ingot
icy cave
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I would say those White knights f'd him over

lunar rain
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If you’re stuck on a level try out different things

tardy ingot
turbid horizon
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Honestly my crew runs 2 hammer, 1 bat, and 1 spear and we chilling

icy cave
lunar rain
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R7a1 you can use sea foam and still pass, I just learned that

tardy ingot
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r7a1 you can do whatever tbh

lunar rain
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True

tardy ingot
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but theres still a "best" option

turbid horizon
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Yeah R7A1 u can run 4 bio and be fine

icy cave
tardy ingot
lunar rain
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I still can’t believe I used the shotgun sentry to beat that level solo. When you guys told me sniper sentry it was a lot easier

turbid horizon
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Even over R6A1?

icy cave
turbid horizon
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Actually R6A1 has that super long extraction

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Yeah

icy cave
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And The class III in R6A1 they for some reason sometimes attack the other door

turbid horizon
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YEAH

icy cave
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even with perfect set up

turbid horizon
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that pissed me off when I tried to solo it

icy cave
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R7A1 not. you have 2 free alarms

tardy ingot
turbid horizon
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Yeah I’ve soloed 2 levels, R7A1 and R1B1

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I see what you mean

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Ig it is just pretty easy

icy cave
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I mean R6A1 is probably 2nd easiest

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Then R1A1, R3A1, R2A1

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And THEN way above that R4A1 and R5A1

tardy ingot
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r1b1 is legit easier than some other a levels tbf

icy cave
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Who are honestly wayyyyyy up there

turbid horizon
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yeah R1B1 is super easy

icy cave
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might even throw it above R7B1

lunar rain
icy cave
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And also did you hit within 8 seconds of using it???

turbid horizon
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R7B1 is long, not hard

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Except for that one patch

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Where it spawned like 50 flyers

icy cave
lunar rain
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It gave me some infection

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And said IIX

icy cave
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And how long did you wait before hammering?

tardy ingot
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also yea. you have a somewhat limited time to do it

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mightve had melee dmg down booster (idk?)

tardy ingot
lunar rain
lunar rain
turbid horizon
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Desync could’ve done it, also back hitbox can be janky

lunar rain
tardy ingot
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yeah even 1 pixel of charge missing wouldve stopped you

lunar rain
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That was most likely it then

craggy pier
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any suggestions for weapons to use against hordes of chargers?

ocean spindle
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i use stagger weapons to try to not gem em close to me, or just shotguns to kill em, so maybe hel shotgun, combat shotgun, chokemod, maybe the hel revolver bu dont use it do im not sure about it

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but guns like the precision rifle, the special revolver, dmr, guns that are for like aiming at headshots might not be very useful since
battery chargers have funky heads n stuff

craggy pier
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I was gonna try the HEL revvy because of the bullet penetration.. wish I had that last time

ocean spindle
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yeah, on hallways n stuff ive seen it worked pretty well
idk how it would deal against battery chargers but i guess nicely

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i took the pistol too for those enemies, well not for those but i just always had it, and i feel like it wasnt the best decision ive ever done

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idk what was wrong with me :]

craggy pier
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verynice

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I'll try the HEL rev and the pump shotgun then

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since headshot weapons wouldn't help that much

ocean spindle
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yeah, i took hel shottie n high cal for that level i think
but ive heard high cal kinda isnt great against those enemies now

craggy pier
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🤔

past star
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I realized you already said you were taking choke mod lol

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And hel revo

craggy pier
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think choke and pump have almost same damage

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I was thinking of taking pump 😅

past star
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Choke is long range

ocean spindle
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yeah same damage i think
i mean with pump u would have to get close

past star
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Up to you both are good

ocean spindle
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but could work cause of the magazine it has

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7 i think

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more than the chokemod

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no it wasnt 7... idk

craggy pier
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It has 8

ocean spindle
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yeah 8 thank u

craggy pier
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twice the cap of choke mod

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range might be favorable. maybe next time I can skip one of the security doors so that's one less entry to worry about

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😅

ocean spindle
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maybe
or hoard all the ammo ah

craggy pier
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bots are not very good at conserving ammo packs

ocean spindle
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they are actually, they shoot precisely and dont waste as many bullets as a human does
... unless u mean like grabbin it and usin it, then yeah

craggy pier
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😔

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they grab everything and use everything

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AND THEN I REALIZED HE TOOK A LOCK MELTER INSTEAD OF THE TRIP MINE

ocean spindle
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well u grab the tripmine
when i play with bots, i usually dont go openin every cabinet, but the ones that arent locked by hack n stuff
normally those ones have the resources
and dependin on what i found, i give it to the bots, ammo or tool, or i hoard it, like healthpacks n stuff

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maybe its cause ive been playin with em a lot, and yes i would like that they dont grab everythin
but still aint so hard to manage it

craggy pier
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hoarding health packs is key, otherwise they'll be healing instead of shooting

craggy pier
ocean spindle
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oh
then yeah idk why that happened
its weird cause based on what ive seen they go, glowies/lock melters < cfoam/tripmines

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they change it if they find somethin better :T

craggy pier
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sometimes they trade 6 use ammo pack for a 1 use medkit

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it's great

ocean spindle
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that usually depends on what the rest of the bots have
two bots have ammopacks, if the last one has to choose between ammo and tool, hes gonna go for the tool

craggy pier
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🤔

ocean spindle
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happens a lot on r1c1 actually, i normally ping for health packs to not pick em up n leave em there, but even after all three bots are holdin somethin usually one goes and picks it up

dry pumice
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Prefferably multiple HEL Shotguns

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Stops chargers dead in their tracks with sheer stagger and then just keep shooting until they stop moving

craggy pier
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should give me time for scans then yes

crude hound
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Hey folks, I had some questions regarding ||chargers|| when dealing with hordes, what's the best way to go about it? Sentries don't seem to do to much and the ai really struggle to take then down. Any ideas? Even class three alarms can be tough!

ocean spindle
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if i had to suggest more stuff... i dont have a lot of practice but mining doors can be great for cleanin out a big chunk

icy cave
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MG

crude hound
icy cave
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NEVER bring a shotgun sentry

dry pumice
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Sniper sentires should oneshot them, do they not?

icy cave
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Give a bot a bio and the sniper sentries will take care of it

ocean spindle
crude hound
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Will the bots use shotguns well though? I'll try the sniper sentries. I like the hanaway for instakill headshots so I'll swap that out

ocean spindle
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i think they do, problem is they dont shot close ranges, but melee enemies when they come close

dry pumice
ocean spindle
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so somethin like a pump shotgun is...

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hard

dry pumice
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Rifles, machine guns, SMGs at worst. That's all you can give them.

ocean spindle
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i have a bot with a chokemod but if im being honest, i dont know how they play with it

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i just never change loadouts

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u know- i have done r1c2, which is im assumin the level u are on
the loadout i would take was hel shotgun and buckland pump shotgun, to have the power if they come close and the stagger for the waves

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so i would suggest somethin among those lines, maybe an smg if u want more fast power

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or somethin among those lines

icy cave
ocean spindle
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what way i play the game? :c

icy cave
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I FEAR players like you

ocean spindle
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oh, i meme, i dont take precision rifle

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spear only if i play super slow

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and chokemod... cause

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i should change it

dry pumice
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Precision Rifle is a perfectly normal weapon, albeit overnerfed

dry pumice
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Just don't use it within 10m and above 40m

icy cave
ocean spindle
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good, go lay there

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:c

icy cave
crude hound
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Maybe I'll give the bots a revolver carbine combo for chargers then? I'll try out maybe 2 burst and a sniper combo. I won't need foam I don't think.

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Then spear all the way

icy cave
ocean spindle
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shush

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dont tell em

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pls

icy cave
crude hound
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Spears for chargers and large common enemies?

ocean spindle
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its ok

ocean spindle
icy cave
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you already did this with that other dude on R7C2 he is STILL sdtuck there !@

ocean spindle
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oh woops

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wrong ping

icy cave
ocean spindle
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oh my god

icy cave
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thats a FACT

ocean spindle
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yes idc

icy cave
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looking a t you imagine

icy cave
ocean spindle
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i dont deny it i just dont like sayin it to new people

crude hound
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Wait why? The range seems great for tall enemies and the damage kills chargers in one hit. What am I missing lol

ocean spindle
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spears great for learnin

icy cave
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untill 10CC buff it I will keep telling people to not use the most garbo melee

crude hound
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Explainn

ocean spindle
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uh jesus christ

icy cave
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and hammer has higher base damage

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with spear you are basically standing still

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hammer you sprint and charge

crude hound
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Eh? But wouldn't you just use spear for stealth? And it's safer on big enemies

icy cave
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like it is known in the community that hammer is so good the rest don't matter

crude hound
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I don't wanna melee a charger horde

icy cave
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as soon as you get basics ditch it far far away

past mesa
icy cave
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imma give you a scenario

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you wake up a room of 6 strikers with a spear you die or you shoot

crude hound
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Hmm I mean I've had success with limb shots with the spear on large enemies. And you stay out of melee

icy cave
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with a hammer you bonk em into oblivion and save your ammo

weary mesa
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Im ngl spear can take out 6

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It's just skill issue

icy cave
weary mesa
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Then they both die

crude hound
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I kinda agree. You're saying hammers great if you fuck up

weary mesa
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omgealul

icy cave
crude hound
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Just don't AE_shrug

icy cave
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if you wanna be precise

past mesa
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Spear stagger is really low if you go very very slow you will be fine but we rather you not take 3 hours on each mission

icy cave
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like there is not even a debate anymore. we know hammer is plainly the best even stat wise

past mesa
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But if you want to don’t let us change your mind

icy cave
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ofc in the end play the weapon you want.

weary mesa
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They really should just nerf the stagger on hammer

crude hound
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Maybe I'll just be a knife enjoyer

weary mesa
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Bat should be the stagger melee

icy cave
ocean spindle
weary mesa
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I'd rather have balance on hammer than buff on spear

crude hound
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Bat stagger isn't that bad imo and it's fast

icy cave
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and for imagine: I do not deny hammer is OP and thus unbalanced I am just stating that fact and that fact makes it a handicap to take anything else (except in specific situations)

ocean spindle
icy cave
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untill they change it, i'll tell new player to take hammer as much as I will tell em to NOT take shotgun sentry

ocean spindle
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that shotgun sentry is even more clear to me, like they wont change it after usin it 3 times and seein it runs out of ammo every single one
right

ocean spindle
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i would tell em after that if they are really focused on it

icy cave
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watch some twitch streams

ocean spindle
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i have, yeah the pick it, then go for burst

icy cave
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you have the lucky ones I guess

ocean spindle
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if i was seein, idk, r1c1 or somethin with a shottie, i would be like 'wow that shotgun sentry runs out of ammo real fast huh?'

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ive never been a fan of tellin the answer, figure it out, ur a big boi

past mesa
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But yeah stagger on hammer is to high

ocean spindle
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yes, just give em hints

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'wow this shotgun sentry isnt really hittin many enemies huh'

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'wow this room is so full, do u have the ammo to combat all that?'

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'wow smg said low range on its description, idk if its hittin those shots'

past mesa
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Na that is just being passive aggressive about it idk just tell the dude the answer if you want them playing optimal or just let them do them

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I say the second is fun and will the players if they ask why I am using things like hammer and hel rev exc.

ocean spindle
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i mean maybe, the problem is i feel if i let people do their own thing, which, i would if i was playin, it wont do nothin cause next three seconds someone else has told em even about the endin of r1d1

past mesa
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Yup that is why mute player supremacy becomes true.

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Or you have to be okay with letting them die

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Ie taking bio and not pinging so they understand that shadows can be scary

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Used to do it all the time in c(x) r6

ocean spindle
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the only thing, if i was playin with people, that i would say straightforward, is 'read what the things ur choosin do'

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thats it prob

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oh my internet just died cool

crude hound
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What do you all think of the hanaway?

ocean spindle
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the dmr? is pretty cool if u can aim

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is it the dmr?

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it is right

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yeah

crude hound
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Yeah!

ocean spindle
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i cant aim tho so i dont ever use it
same with precision rifle lmao

willow dragon
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i can shoot a flea off a dogs back halfway across the map with a hel rev or normal revolver but for some reason i cant hit the broad side of a barn with the dmr, and i used to use it extensively back in the day. Idk some weapons just hate me for no reason

weary mesa
crude hound
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despite the scope thats impressive

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Theres a lot of good weapons i want to use but just cant

dry pumice
# crude hound What do you all think of the hanaway?

I hate it. The few times i gave it a shot it just felt like i would run out of ammo and get nothing done.
Mostly because i'm a horrible sniper and can't headshot fast moving targets to save my life.
... Also i despise that it can't oneshot biters on headshots and simply leaves them with a sliver of health instead. Easily pops the shooters though, so its basically an anti-shooter gun. But at that point - i'll take the Precision Rifle instead, which is basically same thing but a stronger special (the mag size to reload ratio is a killer though).

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DMR + Precision Rifle for maximum suffering.

weary mesa
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Mains one shotting Assers is not healthy for the difficulty of the game

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But I could see them doing that

dry pumice
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It just feels wrong.

mossy aurora
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sawed off

dry pumice
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When a gun requires that much effort to cap a head - it probably should oneshot the WEAKEST enemy in the game

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And with ammo economy that bad too

mossy aurora
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it will 1 shot babies

weary mesa
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Grab a booster sir

dry pumice
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...right, got me on that

weary mesa
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Problem solved

dry pumice
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The one gun in the game that becomes two times cooler if you bring a single +main booster of any %

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Still funny to me

weary mesa
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That is what boosters are for to make the game easier

past mesa
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Dmr compared to the other guns has low dmg per refill but it is a really good gun for the game other than that

tardy ingot
dry pumice
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Yes, hitting 20 pixels instead of 200 pixels is much harder

mossy aurora
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enemies have predictable movement unless th ey are being intimidated

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or whatever that mechanic is called

weary mesa
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I shot when they don't run straight at me

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And I miss

tardy ingot
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enemies also have pretty big heads

prisma ivy
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i think they have like 3 states, agressive, that weird annoying side strafe, or the intimidated one

dry pumice
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The run straight at me is alright, but the second they put some degrees on that - big oof for me. As i said - never was a good sniper.

tardy ingot
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The strafe is the intimidation

prisma ivy
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strikers will just straight up back away sometimes though im not crazy right

dry pumice
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Yeah

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Approach, stop, start going back and fourth, left to right

weary mesa
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AI pathing change would make the game a lot more fun imo

mossy aurora
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eva what do you call THIS mechanic??

dry pumice
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Reminds me how guard dogs circle you or something

weary mesa
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Not only in the same room but outside of it too

tardy ingot
mossy aurora
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gluten-free sleepers

tardy ingot
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#notmysleepers

dry pumice
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Sleepers pick a target and commit to it. They won't change the target until they get hurt. Basically tank logic, but apparently it works on everyone.

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I often see sleepers ignoring me and going for teammates instead. So i pop a shot in their spine and enjoy the ammo saved.

weary mesa
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They change targets at doors too

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Seen it the most on sec doors

tardy ingot
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yea

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its annoying

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when you think that sleepers is gone

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and then it turns around

weary mesa
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I like it

tardy ingot
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Bonus points

weary mesa
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Keeps me on my toes

tardy ingot
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if it wakes up a room

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Oh yeah for sure

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i just despise it in my runs

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cuz we kinda cant go safe

weary mesa
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Giant tongues out side the door runs to a new guy when he passes through and 3 smalls redirect to me at door

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Omegalul

neon gust
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Ah dmr should one shot argument

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While the individual in nature cannot aim

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Somethings never change

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Reminds me of that one dumbass who tought i made a video because of him kekw

weary mesa
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You did it was the guy who circle kited R4A2 Extreme

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Don’t kite shoot

past mesa
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They have another state change snatcher shows it well

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Then can charge target when a target becomes invalid for what ever reason. You can see this when you rez someone while a snatcher is going for you and then you dart behind a wall the snatcher will grab the rezed guy

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Pretty funny tbh

static kestrel
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tips for solo R1B1? (no bots)

solemn flint
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stealth everything

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and plan a good route

static kestrel
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honestly the level slightly confuses me

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like since its a b1 i kinda just assume its easy alarms

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but like

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the pathing is so weird to me

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like the zones to visit and stuff

solemn flint
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u have to get 12 partial decoder

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there are alot in that level

static kestrel
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like for ex, do i do the first class 2 alarm? do i skip it? like what

solemn flint
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3 in each zone

static kestrel
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ohh

solemn flint
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3 path to go

static kestrel
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3 in each zone is helpful info

solemn flint
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each path will have 3 zone

static kestrel
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ohhhh

solemn flint
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so basiclly choose your path

static kestrel
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this really opens my eyes lol

solemn flint
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do u want to deal with fog or with alarm or with darkness and scout

minor fractal
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You can either do it first thing to get it out of the way, or you can open up z41 first so that enemies spawn slightly further out.

solemn flint
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u can do the almost no alarm route or deal with 1/ 2 more extract alarm depend on your loadout

static kestrel
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hmmm

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so basically ill jus have fun till i find the route i like

solemn flint
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not really

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u dont want to do alot of alarm

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basiclly u have to stealth

ocean spindle
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i mean u could
just wouldnt be ideal

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i would say yeah just experiment till u find the places to go

static kestrel
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its only a b1 tbh, so even without bots im not 2 worried ab all the tough stuff

ocean spindle
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u r strong prisoner >:D

static kestrel
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trying to be

solemn flint
static kestrel
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wanna be like my inspirations t - nenpi and hinoki fr

solemn flint
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the only good thing u have when solo is that all of the resource will be yours

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but that does not mean u waste anything

ocean spindle
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they not playin solo are they?

static kestrel
ocean spindle
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i got rlly confused there

solemn flint
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use the resource responsible

ocean spindle
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eh well die till u win

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:]

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thats what i did lmao

static kestrel
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real.

prisma ivy
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something i still struggle with but i think is real important for a level like r1b1 solo is that in the alarm scans, you have to position yourself to live, not complete scans

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it's easy to get greedy and think i can complete this scan before the next wave comes but if it's in a bad position you will just waste ammo and health

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as long as you clear out the strikers anyway, the shooters are annoying but you can dodge them in scan

plucky sequoia
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wheres r3-r6

ocean spindle
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bein developed

fierce nebula
fierce nebula
solemn flint
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stop it

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be responsible

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thats why i sign up for this job

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if u arent responsible why do u apply for a job in the complex

craggy pier
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is r7e1 1 mon 1 pmom or 2 mom 1 pmom

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in the respawn zone

solemn flint
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1 pmom

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maybe more than 1 mom

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and a bunch of charger scout

craggy pier
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rly wanna know if it's 1 or 2 regular mom

solemn flint
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it can be 1/2

craggy pier
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oh random?

solemn flint
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1 is in the door behind the big door

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there should be 1 mom to the next room

craggy pier
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aren't the spawns entirely random within that zone?

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random locations I mean

solemn flint
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p mom in the room before the reactor

craggy pier
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I've had pmom behind the first door

solemn flint
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it is random

mossy aurora
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z451 has 1 mom, z452 has 1 mom and 1 pmom

soft crater
craggy pier
mossy aurora
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pretty sure its always the case

craggy pier
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oke

mossy aurora
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pmom is always in the zone before the reactor area

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the big room, the small hallway, and the last room that zone

craggy pier
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I'm learning this shit cos I'm gonna be taking noobs through r7 and I have to play the bio role

craggy pier
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lel

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yeah

icy cave
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Aaaaan there is the permanent saves state suggestion again.... To be able to do longer missions. Bruv no missions longer than 1.5 hour in this game 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

fierce nebula
solemn flint
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but i would recommend u to give the new the bio

craggy pier
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and take foam myself?

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for the cscouts

solemn flint
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yea

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u want the new to know their surronding

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( bad eng)

craggy pier
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makes sense

solemn flint
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bio is easy for new

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but the most important reason is that bc they are new, they need something to give them info about their surronding

fierce nebula
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people use biotracker? impossible

solemn flint
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?

fierce nebula
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just joking since players never ping

tardy ingot
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I mean bio is „easy“ - eh. Its simple technically

But actually using it is harder than a sentry

And it definetly has the highest peak for what you can do with it with experience

dry pumice
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Bio is very special if you can commit to being the bio man

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For most people its "haha wallhack marker goes brrrt" item

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But its something special if you really commit to the role - counting meters until contact and all that. And there IS a meter count UI on the thing itself - that's why you can aim down with it to see the screen better.

craggy pier
solemn flint
lunar rain
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I didn’t know that you could seafoam a scout just as they start the scream and beat them up before they call other guys

near halo
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I have a question (that may have been asked a lot of time I guess), which weapons are the best in the game?

icy cave
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Any weapons are viable tho. The only weapons/tools that'll really handicap you are shotgun sentry and spear

near halo
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Oh okay, thank for the reply

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What's choke mod?

icy cave
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Choke shotty

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it's a special

near halo
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Oh yeah

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Okay

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How come the spear is not that good compared to hammer?

icy cave
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👍

icy cave
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No stagger

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It's the worst mêlee

near halo
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Oh alright, good to know

icy cave
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So pray they buff it. otherwise well in the trash it goes

near halo
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Alright, cause I used to play it a lot thinking it was a good choice 😭

icy cave
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and well it's not

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ofc you can still play the game with and be succesfull but you'll never be as quick/efficient as hammer players

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Same goes for shotgun sentry, you CAN bring it, it will just eat ALL the tool and kill way less enemies

near halo
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Oh yeah I see, sniper's the best one?

icy cave
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It buffs the firing rate and precision even further on pinged enemies

near halo
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Does it only work on enemies with red point above their heads?

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Like scout and big bois?

icy cave
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Smalls also have a red point above their head when pinged

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Everything that is AWAKE can be pinged

near halo
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Oh I didn't know

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Okayyyyy

near halo
lunar rain
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Like is the room already awake or is just a few that are awake? If 6 are awake and the whole room is still sleeping I think you are going to wake up the room regardless cause one is going to scream

dry pumice
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Like, stealth kill?

near halo
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Yup more in stealth kill, no one is awaken already

dry pumice
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You can, but chance of failure is high.

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Sleepers within like 2 meters of a dying sleeper are guaranteed tow ake up.

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You mist kill them before they scream.

lunar rain
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Or stagger them

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But that doesn’t always work

dry pumice
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Spear Main 😔

lunar rain
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I use hammer so I just smack them

near halo
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Okay thanks for your help :)

dry pumice
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Like Thor I must ethernally aim for the head or else runs get snapped

maiden bramble
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You guys know the small red dots that appear on the bio tracker occasionally? I’m not talking about alerteds but they always just turn out to be just another sleeper

wary linden
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bug that has been there for years now

maiden bramble
flat ridge
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im looking at the wiki for the hi-cal pistol and it says the precision multi is 0.7413x. Is that saying precision shots do less damage?

weary mesa
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No, it just doesn't get full precision multi

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Each enemy has a precision multi associated to it

flat ridge
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oh i see, so i just multiply that by the enemies precision multi

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thanks

dry pumice
ocean spindle
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u never know maybe that 0.7413 bonus saves u from 77 gigants

dry pumice
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I wonder if trying to headshot hybrids is worth it. What's their deal?

icy cave
dry pumice
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Not... What i was asking.

icy cave
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I had to do it

dry pumice
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More so was wondering how many HCP bullets i'll save by going for head and not just winging it

craggy pier
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"Hybrid enjoyer"

icy cave
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fav enemy would prob be mother

dry pumice
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2nd worst enemy after shadows

ocean spindle
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hold on

dry pumice
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Just give me 3 giant fliers instead, i beg you

craggy pier
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By the way, I keep misreading that as Hy-Birds for some reason

craggy pier
icy cave
icy cave
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personally

icy cave
craggy pier
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I mean, lore-immersion-wise

icy cave
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Prefer chargers

craggy pier
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Not the execution tbh

dry pumice
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They remind me of langoliers and i love them for that alone

icy cave
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Mother cause it's so f'd up in so many ways

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Chargers cause they bring some Spice

craggy pier
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I'd say that the mother is way more interesting to fight than the tank

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Tank really feels a bit cheap

icy cave
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Absolutely

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when you get tank killing down it becomes real easy real fast

weary mesa
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Mom stick half her hit box into the wall most of the time

icy cave
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Mother too mind you, but an awoken mother will always put some chaos in the game

weary mesa
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And don't actively try to get into los when ready to spawn

craggy pier
dry pumice
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How far until next tank / mother btw? Ping me at spoiler chat or something

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Just name the rundown

icy cave
weary mesa
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R3 is when minibosses start getting added

icy cave
craggy pier
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I wonder if the idea of a "basic" sleeper that... let's say exhales infectious fog would be nice

ocean spindle
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ok spent a bit of time on this
so with the 33 bullets of a high cal pistol u could kill 5 and a half hybrids usin body shots
but thats bodyshots, the head has a 2x damage multiplier, with combined with the .74 of the high cal and if i did this right, would allow u to kill 8.1 hybrids with the same amount of bullets

weary mesa
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Mom should be the one doing that with her fog

ocean spindle
icy cave
dry pumice
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So its about... like 60% extra damage?

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I guess that's decent to try and headshot them, but not amazing to commit to it fully

ocean spindle
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yeah its, u could but not a priority

tardy ingot
# dry pumice I guess that's decent to try and headshot them, but not amazing to commit to it ...

~1,5x

Def worth. Since you still need 5 (well technically 4 and any dmg from a main) headshots best

vs

6 body shots (full mag)

So in a good situation you safe 2 bullets minus minimal main ammo with headshots per hybrid or big shooter

Vs giants… just dont bother unless you need the quick stagger
Its legit 11% more dmg aka less than 3
never a difference unless you want to safe a bullet of your main KEKW

ocean spindle
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i did the calculation before u HAH
/j

real topaz
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Hello! Very new to the game, is there a way to stealth kill the big sleepers? Melee style and all?

ocean spindle
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if u gotta knife in ur team or a bat, they can still help, usually two or three hammers or spears in ur squad should be enough to hit it enough times to kill one

real topaz
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Good to know! I’ll remember that for once o have a squad, been trying to complete a single mission with bots, hasn’t worked yet, but got real close

ocean spindle
real topaz
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Noted, I’ve definitely gotten the timing down for stealth, just gotta try it on the tall sleepers now

ocean spindle
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yeah
took me a bit to like know how to do it too, i didnt check if bots where near me and then i was just like "where are the-- oh they far away"
and then i would get, punched into oblivion :D

weary geode
#

yo i played r1a1 solo and got a cosmetic but ive already gotten one from this mission

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can all missions be replayed to get multiple items or did something mess up

ocean spindle
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u got a backpack

weary geode
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oohhhhhh

ocean spindle
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so thats why u got two

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u cant replay missions for more things, u need to complete another one that u havent completed yet

weary geode
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ty for the clarification i was super confused

ocean spindle
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dont worry, good luck on the next levels!!

fierce nebula
ocean spindle
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no more like just, doin it cause why not

fierce nebula
#

you say that but Alt:R1 took a whole day for the announcement SantonianWhatElse

ocean spindle
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eh maybe idk

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im just dumb

fierce nebula
#

Alt:R2 was not as bad being only an hour late lmao

craggy pier
#

hey so is it random if scouts stand or bend over when extending tentacles or is it one or the other, I've seen it change in different videos of different rundowns?

weary mesa
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used to bend over for host with a very high percentage

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Client is the same but with standing

craggy pier
#

what de fuq

#

so what is it now

weary mesa
#

Not it's been standardized to stand since r6

tardy ingot
#

In the middle of r6 it got changed to be mostly consistent (and they changed it so scouts bend down at the end of the animation instead of the start)

craggy pier
#

is that the same for shadow scouts and cscouts (not like it really matters for the latter anyway)

tardy ingot
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Cscouts are different

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I think shadow scouts behave the same way as normal scouts

craggy pier
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oke cool ty

spark wolf
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but when will they fix it for hybrids

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they dont know about the hybrids host diff 😢

icy cave
fierce nebula
#

we suffer for what cost

gaunt fulcrum
#

r3

vital sierra
#

petition for the dev to put the bug in r3d1 back in

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we're sorry that we didn't think it through at that time

valid pasture
#

Has probably been asked before, but do bots do security scan sequences if youre not in them?

vague bridge
#

yes they do

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my team has utilized this before in fog expeditions

valid pasture
#

Yooo bet okay thank you, hopefully they do this class 7 alarm rn while I sponge up the door 💀

wary linden
#

if you stay at the door and one scan goes the other side of the room, they won't go in it

valid pasture
#

crapp

pine swift
misty light
#

Is the Onyx corruption palette just cosmetics or does it actually make you sneakier?

craggy pier
#

purely cosmetic

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apparel items have no effect on gameplay

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maybe it might make people easier/harder to see but that's irrelevant

soft crater
#

Regardless of your fancy drip. The sleepers will still hear the clapping of your dummy thicc cheeks

craggy pier
#

real and true

dry pumice
#

Ironically the prisoners should seek the opposite effect

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Sleepers are blind anyway and seem to navigate by sound and some sort of echolocation

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Your teammates however are not so aware of surroundings and can experience issues when trying to descern a sleeper and a teammate

#

So its more advantageous - for your own sake - to bring the most unnatural and bright colour you can

#

Bright pink / yellow palletes are canonically the choice of prisoners who want to maximise their chance of survival

soft crater
#

Drip is drip

craggy pier
#

I have pink colour, robot arm, robot leg, plant backpack and a hood so I am very happy with my cosmetics

verbal zinc
#

Pink pallete man is superior

soft crater
#

Given what we do. The mechanical hand/legs would hinder our movement and quietness

soft crater
verbal zinc
#

Pink pallete lemonhead and a sentry bearing 105

craggy pier
#

pink is the best colour

#

this is the truth

#

and undeniable

maiden bramble
#

you can still melee scouts with hammer right?

craggy pier
#

in da head yes

maiden bramble
#

well my friend missed

craggy pier
#

competence complication

maiden bramble
#

and now they will never listen to me again

craggy pier
#

:((((

#

why not

icy cave
#

and assert dominance

maiden bramble
icy cave
#

hammer full charge anywhere on the head m8

maiden bramble
icy cave
#

front back whatevah you want

maiden bramble
#

atleeast i think that happened

ocean spindle
icy cave
#

then he hit neck, shoulders or something like that

#

it happens

#

no biggie

#

kill scout wave then do next

soft crater
#

Neck shots are such troll

#

Take sniper and shoot a giant striker in the neck.

#

It'll destroy the head but not count as headshot damage

past mesa
#

The head is still there

#

Just invisible

#

Invisible head glitch is my favourite very meta very useful

soft crater
#

Still makes new players think they got a headshot

past star
past mesa
#

The giant head is real trust me.

craggy pier
#

What determines an orange hitmarker? At first I thought it was a kill but sometimes I kill an enemy and no orange marker

#

Even on headshot kills

ocean spindle
#

well im pretty sure it is death

#

maybe u didnt killed it but stagger it n then someone else finished it

craggy pier
#

I’m 90% sure I’ve smacked sleepers in the back of the head and they die but no orange marker

#

No one near me

ocean spindle
#

well do u see the white n red ones?

craggy pier
#

i see the red one but no orange

craggy pier
#

I still get orange hitmarkers as client just not always

past mesa
#

They don’t work very good

craggy pier
#

"don't work very good" certified gtfo moment

fierce nebula
#

ah yeah makes sense it was a bug all along PirateSimon

ocean spindle
#

that explains why i see em i play with bots

craggy pier
#

sometimes I feel like everyone blows the bugs out of proportion and then I get the most mingblowingly game breaking bug and remember the hate is justified

#

fix your game pikastare

ocean spindle
#

the most ive gotten is enemies trapped inside walls... well one time, rooms disappearing... i guess ive just had tons of luck

#

well the crates that face backwards

#

but that ones funny

craggy pier
#

that moment when you face west and your game drops to 5 fps

#

omega

ocean spindle
#

that happens to me but cause of lag not cause of the game

fierce nebula
ocean spindle
#

whut

fierce nebula
#

the lord giveth ghost cell bug and the lord also giveth le dark crystal climbing

craggy pier
#

in r7d2 at what point does the error temporarily stop and which zone is tank

upper ginkgo
#

The higher zone is the tank zone
Waves stop for 140 seconds when the terminal at the last room (checkpoint door) is running the command

mossy aurora
craggy pier
#

does scout trigger time depend on where on the feeler you touch it

ocean spindle
sturdy glen
#

ive heard it triggers faster if youre sprinting when it touches you but I havent tested/observed that myself

ocean spindle
#

i only know it tentacles if u sprint

craggy pier
#

afaik anything that would alert/begin to alert a sleeper will make a scout extend tentacles

sturdy glen
#

not exactly but kinda

short harness
#

i remember seeing in a how to deal with scouts video that flashlights dont affect scouts and to this day im salty because it seems flashlights def can cause it to wake up esp long range

sturdy glen
#

they cant wake it up, but they will cause it to deploy after a bit of flashing

short harness
#

*extend not wake up

sturdy glen
#

ye

short harness
#

holding a lr flashlight on it just causes it to insta feel right after it retracts

craggy pier
short harness
#

yeah maybe the vid was outdated or something

craggy pier
#

idk how that interacts with distance and type of flashlight tho

short harness
#

dunno

#

whenever i kill a scout i have to remember that flashlights do interfere with it

ocean spindle
#

i nnever have my flashlight on when killin scouties, if its dark, i throw glowies

craggy pier
#

flashlight is nice cos bonking scouts is alot easier when they're extended so you can just make it extend whenever it's convenient for you

#

unless they're walking straight at you

ocean spindle
#

yeah thats
usually my
tactic

#

go to em wait till they turn around n fuck em up

short harness
#

when is forcing a feel good?

#

when you want it to stand still?

sturdy glen
#

yes

short harness
#

but like then they can bend over and screw up some occiput hits

#

i gotta practice more on scout killing with my knife its not always 100% but its close ish

sturdy glen
#

its also useful if you arent trying to kill it

#

stops it from going somewhere you dont want it to

short harness
#

ah true

#

gives you more time to look for stuff in a room too

#

i find it easier to kill scouts with a knife than with a bat though for some reason

#

i think the bats hitbox is wonky but so is the knifes

#

always gotta jump

#

to be safe

ocean spindle
#

as a bat enjoyed
idk cause i dont kill scouts with it

sturdy glen
#

I always jump with any weapon that isnt spear

craggy pier
short harness
#

even hammer? doesnt the hitbox arc down

sturdy glen
#

yes

short harness
sturdy glen
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I jump and aim above its head

short harness
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good to know

sturdy glen
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reduces chance of hitting an arm or its neck

short harness
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ah true

sturdy glen
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only time I dont jump is if it walks up to me and im in the middle of other enemies

short harness
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yeah

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had trouble the other day with a scout surrounded by a bunch of chargers and all i had was a knife

craggy pier
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jump makes me feel cool

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that's all that matters

short harness
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SO TRUE

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and then everyones like "NICE ONE" and im like happy_dboy

craggy pier
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literally me earlier

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I bonked the 3 R1D1 scouts

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and every time I hear "niiiice"

sturdy glen
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gtfo courtesy

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👍

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its nice, even in later shit where scouts mean a lot less to you

short harness
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lol my squad has 2 designated scout killers and we always compete to kill them

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the scouts not our team mates lmao

craggy pier
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I failed 2 scout kills yesterday so I spent a bunch of time learning more about how they work

sturdy glen
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I cant tell how my group is with scouts

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I kill them whenever im there but im not always there

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probably doesnt help that I steal the kills from in front of them if im close enough and I know its safe

craggy pier
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I really should let the noobs practice killing scouts on levels where alerting them doesn't matter but bonking scouts is just so fucking satisfying

short harness
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i am the king of mediocre and the master of inconsistent inconsistencies

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you never know when ill slay 5 scouts or die to a striker

short harness
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in the past week

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or weeks

craggy pier
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the based pipeline

solemn flint
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u need to turn into "why the fuc there is a bug that made me so that i cant open the fucing door"

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when u become a god at killing scout, the only thing the game can do to stop u is to seal u by soft blocking the game

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kinda like doom slayer being seal by the demon bc they cant do anything else to stop him

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after u reach that u can choose the doom slayer path( shoot everything that u see), hitman 47 path( god of stealth kill) or john wick( a bit of both+ specialist at taste test the weapon)

vital sierra
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are you sure that your game is fully verified or missing file?

solemn flint
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no missing file

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dowload from steam

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fully vertified

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and still getting stuck at the checkpoint door

vital sierra
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you played with what player?

solemn flint
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desycn stuff

solemn flint
vital sierra
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ye

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that happen

solemn flint
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and i come from asia

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and i still play this game fine

vital sierra
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it seem like both not having good internet

solemn flint
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its just the checkpoint

solemn flint
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the only bad thing is that i dont have a mic

vital sierra
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still, i do understand checkpoint door

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but normal sec door is kinda rare, unless you have packet loss + high ping

mossy aurora
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we heard the cars from your street....

vital sierra
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there's no car mate

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we only have bike

latent obsidian
mossy aurora
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when someones not in the scan u give them a polite beep

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📯

latent obsidian
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My god this is a great idea for a video

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GTFO pubs but I can only communicate with a vehicle soundboard

solemn flint
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thats why u can hear the truck alarm

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and cars too

icy cave
latent obsidian
icy cave
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I'll give a like on the vid

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but no sub

latent obsidian
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likes don't put food on the table

icy cave
craggy pier
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how many snatchers are supposed to come in the d1 error alarm

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we got 3

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...

tardy ingot
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1.. 2?

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its a well known issue

craggy pier
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yeah I knew it existed

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just

latent obsidian
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1 is intended I think

craggy pier
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wishfully thought it may have been fixed...

latent obsidian
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If only the host is present thats how many you get

craggy pier
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10c fixing bugs? how foolish of me

latent obsidian
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The best way to ensure you only get 1 snatcher is have everyone but the host disconnect, enter the command, then everyone rejoins

craggy pier
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LMAO

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bruh

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shit game

solemn flint
tardy ingot
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eh you can do it

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its just hard for unfun reasons

vital sierra
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it's 1 snatcher

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r7d1 is a solid level, but it have too many bug

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if all the other rundown have an alt

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i would like to get an Alt R7 too

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or at least, a tweak

craggy pier
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if u get 3 will it be 3 every wave

latent obsidian
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Yes

craggy pier
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christ

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how is that not fixed

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10c moment

vital sierra
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because they were busy balancing E1

craggy pier
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need to fix the the overload cheese but not the bug that makes it impossible to complete, nice work 10c!!

vital sierra
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it's not impossible, you see

icy cave
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Honestly if you get 1 to spawn the level becomes ez gg

vital sierra
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it is a D tier

solemn flint
craggy pier
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gtfo try not to desync challenge (impossible)

solemn flint