#gtfo-related-questions

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upper ginkgo
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r1b1 has a chance to spawn an isolated scout in the northern zone, but it doesn't require completing an alarm

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if you're looking for practice on scouts with enemies, r7d1 overload terminal room is the best imo. it's a large room with decent enemy density and 1-3(?) scouts, so you'll get some good practice in controlling enemy aggro during stealth

vestal linden
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ok thanks ill try that one then

ocean spindle
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does anyone know the best level to practice scout kills at a fair prize

ocean spindle
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too expensive

icy cave
ocean spindle
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good enough

vague bridge
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how hard is D2 on the late R2 expeditions scale

upper ginkgo
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more difficult than r2d1 if you struggle to clear large waves of enemies quickly

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but other than that, if you have decent sentry placement, loot appropriately, and actually shoot then it's a pretty straightforward level
biggest hurdle imo is just learning terminal spawns and knowing which zones to go in order to get codes

winged turtle
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the difficulty of R2D1 is managing what comes next, and minimizing fog, R2D2 is a bout as difficult, but instead of planning, you just have to know where to go, and be comfortable with a brisk pace.

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about as difficult as each other now that i think about it

vague bridge
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the difficulty of r2d1 was crashing 95% through

winged turtle
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ahhh, then D2 is waaay easier

turbid horizon
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Shutting subzone doors helped us

vague bridge
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some sort of sound overload bug i believe

verbal zinc
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soundbug makes your game crash if u get it and open your map

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usually caused by spitters

turbid horizon
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oooohhhhhh

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So thats why people hate them

verbal zinc
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just dont open your map if u get it

vital sierra
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generator sound overwrite spitter ambient sound and fix it

gaunt fulcrum
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Anyone know if fog repeller boosters affect the fog turbine?

fierce nebula
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they do

winged turtle
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hell ya they do

surreal zephyr
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Will they add achievements?

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On steam

sturdy dew
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maybe

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i think its been requested a lot but i dont remember any dev giving a definite answer

ocean spindle
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its on the roadmap if im not wrong

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i would assume they would add em at the end as a 'heres this final thing to do'

icy oracle
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Guys is it normal if my bot have equiped auto sentry and scattergun? Since mine does and i feel like im the only one having those weapons and sentry equipped on my bot

fierce nebula
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you got to be playing modded no way

icy oracle
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I played R2E1 and other people joined, and there is no mods installed

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I mean 2 other people joined

turbid horizon
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It can happen

icy oracle
turbid horizon
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My bots still had burst rifles from R7-1

fierce nebula
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dude has the legendary scattergun lets go

turbid horizon
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Players can’t, but bots can. As for if you really want Bishop to have a scattergun, that’s up to you

icy oracle
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Yeah

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I keep it for memes tbh

turbid horizon
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Good

fierce nebula
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if only bots could shoot the blobs on tanks 😩 EZ tank clears

turbid horizon
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They can

fierce nebula
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on lucky occasion

turbid horizon
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When I cleared R6D1 with bots I accidentally gave Hackett sniper and he killed the tank

icy oracle
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Oof

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Nice

turbid horizon
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They could probably deal with hybrids pretty well

icy oracle
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Also, R2E1 is pain 😩

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We struggled alot in first door

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And then on alarm with hybrids

tardy ingot
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anyone goes down it becomes tough

icy oracle
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Ye

tardy ingot
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strategy is to just move away from the enemies once the scan you are on is done

icy oracle
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Yeah i see

tardy ingot
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dont bother killing anything that isnt on you (hybrids being somewhat of an exception) since they immediatly respawn in a surge

turbid horizon
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Yeah

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Running away can be your best friend

icy oracle
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Just C foam all of them tbh

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And scan in peace

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Jk

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But can be an option

turbid horizon
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4 cfoam E1

icy oracle
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New meta

tardy ingot
# icy oracle Just C foam all of them tbh

i mean cfoam if used well is broken on r2e1
can somewhat cfoam for first surge in the beginning. But usually not too worth here

2nd surge if 599, foam small ladder
3rd surge. foam big ladder
4th same
5th perma foam or foam floor in a funnel florkShrug2

noble sierra
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Also the last scan you can permafoam if you saved the door

ocean spindle
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so sometimes i reload and i got 59 and not 60 bullets in the mag
why :]c

tardy ingot
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funny bug

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can happen to a lot of weapons

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always 1 bullet missing

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dmr, assault rifle and such have it

ocean spindle
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i was
expectin somethin like that

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damn it never happened to me with the pistol if i recall
or the
high cal

weary mesa
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Anything 10 or above has it

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Error with rounding

tardy ingot
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never seen it with combat shotty musicmommyThink

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and carbine?

ocean spindle
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i just use same weapones over and over [which i shouldnt but thank u machinepistol] and i just noticed when i tried r1c1 this morn with the machinegun and a dmr i think it was

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idk if it happened with the dmr

tardy ingot
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it happens with dmr for sure

weary mesa
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I never knew dmr had it until recently

tardy ingot
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probably the worst offender

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since it has decent impact

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compared to say assault rifle missing 1 bullet in the mag

weary mesa
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could be something with the class of a weapon too

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Since shotguns don't get it

tardy ingot
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swatThink i mean it would need a ton of testing to be sure

weary mesa
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Doesn't explain Burst Rifle having it and BC and Carbine not

ocean spindle
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maybe its cause of the amount of bullets

tardy ingot
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probably some weird coding thing tbh

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where the rounding is differnt for them

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and thus doesnt happen

ocean spindle
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i feel dumb askin but whats bc again?

mossy aurora
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Burst cannon

ocean spindle
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ohh

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then no i dont feel dumb

tardy ingot
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in its r4 form easily a top 5 most strongest gun ever. And that is probably low balling it a lot

I think the burst cancel stop alone will make it a lot worse. But that doesnt mean that it couldnt still be stupid strong…

weary mesa
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it's twenty damage flat

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With 70 bullets

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actually probably 20.01

vital sierra
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20.01

weary mesa
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shit is stupid

tardy ingot
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was like 20 bullets per refill right in 5 round bursts.
But since you could cancel the shots (or space well) it meant 1 tapping strikers left n right

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insane gun even back then as a beginner

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tbh
Whats your top 5 guns power level wise

vital sierra
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R3 burst cannon is where it at

brisk swift
vital sierra
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they only buff burst cannon because no one use it

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"oh no, charge"

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"oh no, burst"

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"oh no, burst AND charge"

mossy aurora
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Did people use cancelling in r3

vital sierra
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not to my knowledge

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people were dissing weapon in r3

weary mesa
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Nah first known Burst Cancel was in a speedrun of R4A1

tardy ingot
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r3 will be interesting

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bringing back hel gun and burst cannon

vital sierra
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machine pistol

weary mesa
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When you could jump and cancel it

vital sierra
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or auto pistol

tardy ingot
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?

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isnt autopp r4

weary mesa
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ye

vital sierra
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we already have auto pp

mossy aurora
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How much damage did r3 bc do?

ocean spindle
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i wanna see what they do with the sights of the hel rifle
cause it feels alpha, so maybe they rework it, idk
i think it was r3

weary mesa
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alpha

tardy ingot
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no we have machine pp d4rkevDerp

vital sierra
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that's why

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we have a pistol

weary mesa
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12.something I think

vital sierra
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we have a pistol but automatic mode

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we have another pistol with automatic mode but with different name

tardy ingot
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lower dmg. But stagger god

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actually interesting concept

vital sierra
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"guys, go hammer the pmom"

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"it fine, i have THE auto pistol"

tardy ingot
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i still hope for an auto shotgun sentry

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combine the 2

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and make it glorious

vital sierra
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we did have auto shotgun sentry

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it called symbiotic shotgun sentry

tardy ingot
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i mean thats just the ammowaster 9000

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i mean a low dmg shotgun sentry with way more pellets and insane stagger

vital sierra
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it can kill everything in a surge if you put it right

weary mesa
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modded sentry

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cringe

tardy ingot
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the stuff that respawns immediatly and just gets used up in 20 sec kanagoDespair

weary mesa
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Not balanced at all

vital sierra
tardy ingot
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and tbh shotgun sentry takes 2-3 shots to kill strikers most of the time

tardy ingot
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i mean from my own tests it rarely 1 shots

vital sierra
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just need to record that spot again

tardy ingot
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and it also rarely 3 shots unlessits crawlers

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it hates crawlers

mossy aurora
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I saw someone use shotgun sentry with sentry cpu speed the other day. 5 shots per striker that showed up

tardy ingot
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fucking cant hit em sometimes. Like r1 burst sentry

mossy aurora
tardy ingot
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probably quintuple shooting after its dead

vital sierra
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i think they should remove the symbiotic on shotgun sentry

mossy aurora
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It did

vital sierra
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it shoot too damn fast

tardy ingot
ocean spindle
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i like when i ask about bullets and this happens

tardy ingot
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We did cpu speed r6c1 auto sentrys was funny

maybe cpu speed triple shotgun sentry (and bio takes supply efficiency lol) in r7d2 KEKW

vital sierra
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they should give us booster with negative cpu speed

tardy ingot
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sniper sentry shooting every 12 seconds

vital sierra
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save ammo

mossy aurora
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+SR sentry damage, -sentry CPU speed

tardy ingot
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sr sentry dmg. I mean it works for shotgun sentry

mossy aurora
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Yeah I'm saying if that was a booster combo you could get it would be good for shotgun sentry

tardy ingot
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how high can cpu speed go again?

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i wanna get the limits for shotgun sentry + bio

mossy aurora
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I'm not sure

vital sierra
robust field
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Highest I've gone was around 75%

tardy ingot
vital sierra
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like damn, better shoot that striker 5 times after seeing 1 frame of the striker

tardy ingot
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get those boosters and join me in r7d2 kappa

robust field
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At that point the sniper sentry mowed down waves but had to be fed tool constantly

vital sierra
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sniper sentry can shoot dead body

tardy ingot
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Now imagine what 3 shotgun sentrys would do

agile marlin
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Is the texture quality changing from full to half will have a performance increase?

vital sierra
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yes, a bit

agile marlin
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how about for a quarter?

vital sierra
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still, it didn't change much

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but a bit

agile marlin
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i see

vital sierra
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changing while in level somehow give more

fierce nebula
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really depends on your RAM and storage but yeah GPU won't have to process as much 🤔

real iris
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how do you crouch

upper ginkgo
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simply bend your legs 60 degrees

verbal zinc
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bearing 105

upper ginkgo
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facing north

real iris
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brooooooo thanks so much i was trying to figure that shit out for hours today

vital hawk
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hello guys

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whats the counterplay to bots being spastics and not doing the scan

gaunt fulcrum
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Kick em

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If its the extract scan then i tend to either stay in the far back of the scan or move around so they move around in the scan too

vital hawk
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ty

fierce nebula
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check settings
check controls
see what button it is to press crouch
check if toggle crouch is on

real iris
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how do you run

tardy ingot
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take bigger steps or quicker steps. Or both, but that might be hard for grandpa lungs

brisk swift
midnight gazelle
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How do I lean?

midnight gazelle
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Instructions unclear, deleted system32

ocean spindle
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how to gtfo

fierce nebula
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guys please I keep placing mines and they never go off

noble sierra
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Clip? Screenshot? Or describe how you place the mine

fierce nebula
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I put them on the floors like you would with any mine

vital sierra
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have you tried shooting it

icy nacelle
mossy aurora
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Also if you put them on the floor chances are the enemies are just running by them

jagged shore
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anyone happen to know exactly how much damage striker/shooter heads take before they explode

noble sierra
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10 for striker iirc, you can't destroy a shooter variant enemy's head without killing it (normally)

ocean spindle
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i remember when u could back in alpha
they shot out of their spine or somethin

lunar rain
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Anyone know any levels that have a lot of shooting? My friend seems to like those levels

ocean spindle
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r1c1

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thats
the only one ik :]

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well r7d2 too now that i remember
and maybe r7e1 in some parts

lunar rain
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They seemed to like r2b1 if that helps

ocean spindle
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mh maybe r1c2, r1d1, r7b2 [has a lot of sneaks but many parts of shootin, its a long level], idk it too well and somehow might have to confirm but r7c2, r7c3 towards the end...

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and idk almost, any level from r2 so

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maybe r2b3 cause its the only one i remember

icy cave
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And R2E1 obv

icy cave
ocean spindle
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yeah but the second part is very funky

icy cave
lunar rain
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I’ll have to work on getting r2d2 and r7e1 unlocked

icy cave
icy cave
tardy ingot
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i mean hed have to do r2d1. probably without said friend?

ocean spindle
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soo lookin at the wiki for the bullpup
im seein the promo white image is different than the model in game, with a circular magazine, different position on the flashlight, and different vertical foregrip
is there a reason for this? has the bullpup had a redesign at some point?

lunar rain
icy cave
lunar rain
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Yes I know

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And I never want to do solo again

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It’s good to learn simple mechanics but that’s kinda about it

icy cave
icy nacelle
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You could probably do R2D1 With Bots pretty comfortably as well tbh.

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I dunno the exact skill level I'm looking at here tho so. Shrug

tardy ingot
icy nacelle
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And of course that true solo or bot solo are veeeerry different. kappi

lunar rain
minor fractal
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Based, bots are super annoying.

ocean spindle
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not based

icy nacelle
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I'm surprised it's because "the bots scared me" and not the multiple annoying things like gliding through doors you just closed, instantly using packs if you're below 80% (and defaulting to giving it to you mid-fight, nothing funnier than seeing all 3 Bots trying to give you ammo during a reactor wave) or defaulting to melee anytime an enemy is within like 5m of them.

violet jungle
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bots are braindead

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they will stand there and get licked all over by strikers even if you walk far away from them

icy nacelle
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Yeah I saw that the other day where all 3 Of them just kinda locked up in position with one Striker in front of them hitting them and I'm like, what.

violet jungle
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maybe they enjoy getting finger-ed by strikers

icy nacelle
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The only thing I'll appreciate from the bots is their biotracker cheats and nothing more. kappi

violet jungle
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agreed

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but then again
i prefer bio so they rarely ever have it

icy nacelle
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My group just always has the bot with Bio since I stick with Mines generally, our second mostly runs Foam and our third is only smart enough to use a Sentry and even that he fails at sometimes, so giving the bot the Bio is the best option even if they didn't have their cheat range. kekw

violet jungle
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damn
how do you not know how to use the laziest tool in the game

icy nacelle
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Trust me I wish I knew.

violet jungle
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"Ping ping, ping bleed and ping"
-Hackett

icy nacelle
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Though honestly the main issue with them trying Bio is mostly that they just forget about it.

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Y'know, the kind who you have to keep reminding them they can bloody ping with it.

violet jungle
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yeah

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i rarely trust other people with bio

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they just never ping

icy nacelle
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Which honestly I'm surprised considering it's not like they're actually shooting everything either so I dunno how hard it is for them to swap for a sec to ping.

violet jungle
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or you have people who ping whenever they can which is not that helpful cuz they ping 1 enemy during a wave

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instead of waiting for them to accumulate

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people also tell me to ping after i just pinged
as if the 8 second cooldown didn't exist

icy nacelle
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See we have had Bot on Bio for so long that I think they kinda forgot about that,

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and we tried a slightly different set-up with it the other day on R2D2 Since our first run on it the bot was refusing to ping whatsoever so we swapped it to me.

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And indeed they'd be like "why aren't you repinging" and I'm over here like I'm on bloody cooldown mate, chill. kekw

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We swapped it back to the bot though and he didn't bug out so that was nice.

neon gust
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Install better bots mod

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Fixes 99% of all the problems of bot in combat

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Better than waiting for 10cc to do something

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Since theyll most likely just fix the dropping items on combat drama bug and move on

thorny creek
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I love bots not reviving me and just leaving me there, even when there's no enemies around PepeStare

neon gust
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Had that happen in r7d2 2 meters infront of me

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Thankfully never again

jagged shore
floral acorn
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i would say a giant striker needs more than 10hp to decap but don't remember the actual number

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full hammer frontal head (40hp) will decap fo sho

limpid notch
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Hi guys,is there any bug playing solo uplink terminals?I can't uplink them

ocean spindle
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do u know what to do when it says the thing about the code?

neon gust
icy cave
minor fractal
jagged shore
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ty

limpid notch
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and im in the correct terminal

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ill try it now with some people,because i played with people and worked dunno why

icy cave
limpid notch
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map is triangulation

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ye,let me start a game

neon gust
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To input the correct command

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To do the objective

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Because if you were actually using the same commands as other people then it should 100% work

limpid notch
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yes

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only works if another player joins

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is bugged soloing

neon gust
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What are the commands your using?

red flax
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Was looking at some steam guides and saw that it's a bad idea to place sentry guns outside of a door you're defending. I get that it uses ammo, but wouldn't it just be killing enemies outside the door easily so you have to deal with less? Any clarification on if/why this is true would be nice

neon gust
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Its old strat

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We used to do that because mines didnt kill more than 2 sleepers

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Now mines can kill spawn cap

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Better yo have sentry for covering you in your room than outside wasting ammo

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Like they always intended

red flax
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Would anything change if I'm playing solo without bots?

neon gust
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Nothing

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Oh no

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Something will change

icy nacelle
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Well you'd get bots clipping through the doors. kappi

neon gust
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You will die faster

red flax
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Perfect thanks

icy cave
neon gust
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Like setting up sentries to deal with a scout wave and such

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Feels pretty cool

icy cave
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otherwise people don't get it

neon gust
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My man got a typo typing uplink_connect

icy cave
limpid notch
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now works,is a bug 100%

ocean spindle
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idk
maybe it wasnt the terminal, or a typo, or a number that looked like an 8 but was a 0

fierce nebula
fierce nebula
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and it just exposes the fact they not wearing glasses

ocean spindle
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i wear glasses and it still happens

fierce nebula
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well fuck

ocean spindle
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just try till u get it

vague bridge
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is r1d1 a reactor level

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@pine swift shut up you dont have a say

weary mesa
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yes

vague bridge
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@pine swift IN YOUR FACE

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i win

weary mesa
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It's done differently though

ocean spindle
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the audacity

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yeah i was bout to say it kinda isnt

vague bridge
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but it is

ocean spindle
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50/50

pine swift
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my point is that when someone says "reactor level" they 99% of the time refer to a reactor startup

ocean spindle
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its a reactor, but not

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like a sandwich w/o bread

vague bridge
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ztriw is the pharaoh and everything he says is right

pine swift
neon gust
ocean spindle
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hey ztriw opinion on machinepistol n spear

weary mesa
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Don't listen to this man he only knows bots

vague bridge
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whatever you say

neon gust
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If you see ztriw in your lobby QUICK INSTALL KEEP MY BOOSTERS

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#ad

weary mesa
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I'll have you know it's now Perfect Boosters

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Combines multiple cringe "QoL"

fierce nebula
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I wouldn't refer to generators as "reactors" even though technically it is a reactor

vague bridge
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"generators"

pine swift
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giant tongue reached too deep is the pharaoh and everything he says it right

vague bridge
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you mean reactor shutdown

neon gust
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I mean as long as ive been playing the esports way of sayong the objective is

Gen cluster: big generators
Reactor: to both startup and shutdown (its usually specify in the convo usually)
Cell: for cell distribution
Uplink
Etc

ocean spindle
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the esports way

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why havent i thought of gtfo tourneys before

vague bridge
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black dragon is a priest of the pharaoh

spark wolf
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but blackdragon what if its the other uplinks

neon gust
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Then you say corrupt uplink

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#ad

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Ty

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Many people do be calling the big shooter mommas tho

mossy aurora
ocean spindle
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i still think big mamalambas is a better name

neon gust
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I be like, lemme show you the real momma PirateSimon

ocean spindle
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...
so anyway gtfo questions right-

spark wolf
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big woman

spark wolf
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beat them up(?)

neon gust
spark wolf
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to save ammo

ocean spindle
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jesus christ

vague bridge
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what are you implying

neon gust
ocean spindle
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ok so is the pistol- uh- widely used?

spark wolf
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? ? ?

ocean spindle
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gtfo questions right

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yeah

spark wolf
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buff pistol

ocean spindle
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no, the fuck

spark wolf
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wheres the range

neon gust
spark wolf
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add pen

vague bridge
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hugh cal

ocean spindle
neon gust
ocean spindle
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is there a main that oneshots?

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i think only the dmr to shooters

spark wolf
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yEH

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the hel shotgun oneshot the shooters too

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what rundown had the rifle

neon gust
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R3

ocean spindle
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huh

neon gust
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I wanna use it again

spark wolf
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next month or end of this month

ocean spindle
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i wanna see how its redesign

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or if they will keep the same sight

neon gust
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Gonna keep the same sights

ocean spindle
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idk, feel like alpha gtfo had a different way of makin sights
like the burst cannon, rifle, sniper, heavy smg, had kinda a same style
but then by i think r6 sniper one changed, maybe before idk
so i wonder if they gonna change em or not

neon gust
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Alpha gtfo was just straight up just concepts

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Ea its when they actually started developing assets kekw

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But yeah really doubt theyll change anything

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Alts are just for fan service and time

ocean spindle
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almost like, thats, an alpha
tryin stuff

spark wolf
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they are adding weapon customization and the real snatcher in R8

ocean spindle
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still wishin for snatcher sleep

spark wolf
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i hope they put the sleeping flyers in like a zaero rundown

spark wolf
neon gust
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Damn

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Scam links be dammed

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Alt R3 its not even gonna release with patchnotes

spark wolf
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the patchnotes are in the logs on the terminals

fierce nebula
spark wolf
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R3B2 has the real boss battle

weary mesa
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yea pulling the alarm and thinking the mom won't wake up

noble sierra
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DTR one shots regular, no?

weary mesa
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Two

ocean spindle
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only oneshots shooters if im not wrong, when the r hit on the head

weary mesa
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Double Tap one bursts strikers and shooters

ocean spindle
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.t lfg

uneven gulchBOT
ocean spindle
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wrong channel

icy cave
craggy pier
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There's something that has been bothering me for a bit

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It may just be a coincidence but I sometimes find someone blantantly cheating on the ingame MM and they sometimes have names very similar to other legit players

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To be fair I've only seen this twice

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So it may just be a coincidence

vital sierra
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cheater gonna cheat, mm is the best place for that

icy cave
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They know they get banned if playing on the discord

craggy pier
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As in, someone wants to tarnish someone else's name

icy cave
#

Obv some people don't like each other but if you go to those lengths to tarnish someone.... Bloody pathetic

craggy pier
#

It's bizzare and it'd be resolved if the game allowed you to see other people's steam id

#

I mean you could see anyone else's on L4D, CSS...

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just by typing status on console

#

ain't really private info

icy cave
#

But how good can you tarnish someone with ingame MM??? Nobody plays it

vital sierra
#

to go around trolling streamer

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the streamer create lobby, troll just press the name, go into the steam profile and "join lobby"

craggy pier
vital sierra
#

you are forced to be private

craggy pier
#

And I'm pretty sure you can hide game info somewhere

vital sierra
craggy pier
#

yes I've seen that 😄

icy cave
#

But ok people do childish stuff ingame. It was always like that and will always stay like that

vital sierra
#

they just gonna find out new ways

#

people literally going out of their way to swat other people, and laugh

icy cave
#

Time to use MM and see if I can spot a Captain Beta, LightEva, White_Dragon or Estonia1

craggy pier
#

Luckly my nick is totally different from Latvea

icy cave
#

Or a youngda or god forbid a DjDNB

craggy pier
#

I'm not even latvian I'm from italy

icy cave
craggy pier
#

got it xD

icy cave
#

😅

tardy ingot
icy cave
#

Or professor Sailor ofc how could I forget 🤦‍♂️

icy cave
#

I think TheFalseKhepri would not make a lot of sense nowadays

tardy ingot
#

i mean theres Weslay kappa

tardy ingot
#

TheSpecificKenny

icy cave
#

Fiber Throne

tardy ingot
#

FriedChickenNuggies

icy cave
#

Dik

tardy ingot
icy cave
#

She-Woman

#

AzertPacifist

craggy pier
#

WaterSpear I guess

icy cave
#

Lonely-Calle

#

RTX

tardy ingot
#

BovietSadger, LegenderGirl, Nymnally, MotionlessAC

icy cave
#

Capitalist Badger

#

Forgot that one

tardy ingot
#

Rayalittle

icy cave
#

MrDough

tardy ingot
craggy pier
#

5 Hours later

icy cave
#

😂

craggy pier
#

😆

icy cave
#

Falsely very average

#

cleany bun

tardy ingot
#

Baguette

icy cave
#

Founder and CEO of Austria

tardy ingot
#

Fullspace

#

im still thinking about making my steam Name D4RKTRAINING for april fools, since they changed EVAL to Training Sadge

icy cave
#

😔

#

A sad day it was

jaunty bear
#

ill just change my name to Big Scout

#

unoriginal

#

boring

#

and perfect

icy cave
#

Amateur scout tamer

jaunty bear
#

AH

#

YES

tardy ingot
#

ok ill stop writing the exact same thing KEKW

jaunty bear
#

watch me kill a scout by blowing myself up next to it

icy cave
#

I think we gave enough Alt name ideas

dry pumice
#

Can anyone tell me with a certain degree of certainty which graphic settings affects shadows' (enemy type) visibility the most? It cant be like JUST shadow setting? It probably got something to do with lighting as well, maybe how the light penetrates them or something

ocean spindle
#

how does no-hud people
play
at all this game?

lofty fable
#

Terminals and looking at the walls

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And knowing the objective before you go in

#

And probably a notepad for notes

ocean spindle
#

i was talkin more ammo
i dont look at the objective if ik a level but for like shootin n stuff

past mesa
clever nest
#

Ayo anyone know what the magenta blood splatter on your screen is from?

ocean spindle
#

prob killin dudes

#

or bein infected i think

ocean spindle
#

ok playin no hud wasnt as hard as i thought

steady grove
#

Is there a place to get models of the masks?

#

They all look awesome and I'd love to try to recreate them

#

Well maybe one of them

fierce nebula
#

blood from killing and funky juice from being infected

vital sierra
#

or "no texture" on blood splatter, so, you need to verify the game for missing file

mint garden
minor fractal
#

Or you can, like, play normally.

tardy ingot
#

theres litteraly only 1 reason. Lawless speedruns

Otherwise, why the fuck

icy cave
#

Already gone from the server

fierce nebula
#

"how do I complete this easy level?? I found this exploit"
"why do you need to exploit an easy af level?"
"I'm not welcomed reeee"

soft crater
#

Cheesing A1 levels

#

Me doing R7A1. Activating the other class 2 Alarm as we put the baby in the machine

tardy ingot
#

gotta activate it right as you do the 1st one. then let it run for the rest of the level d4rkevDerp

#

r7a1 secondary

lunar rain
#

Is it possible to two tap a giant with hammer? I feel like I have done it before but someone else could have done something

tardy ingot
#

giant striker: only with boosters or melee syringe
hybrid/chicken: yes, with 2 occiput hits

ocean spindle
#

wasn't a big mamalamba possible with two at the occiput too?

tardy ingot
#

dude

#

no one knows what you mean with that

#

and if you mean big charger. then no, since they dont give you a head dmg multi
so you just do 40 + 40

ocean spindle
#

no, a normal big striker

tardy ingot
#

their head explodes
i mean you could possibly do it if you get lag or frame perfect double hit

#

but not as a single player

ocean spindle
#

oh ok that makes sense

lunar rain
#

I guess the other person had a booster of sorts then cause they hit the head and I hit the back and he just crumpled

fierce nebula
past star
#

Nvm I didn’t read lower

gentle tangle
#

hey are there problems going on with the GTFO servers rn

#

I am getting server crashes, unity crashes, server freezing

#

and more

#

no idea whats going on

past mesa
#

The server are in your head just try better

gentle tangle
#

ok?

dry pumice
#

Hm. I had 2 crashes in a row today - saw 1 host crash mid-game and then another guy (also host) dropped from another. Different people and regions. But like... There were no patches for a while now. And we don't use servers to begin with - its P2P, so there shouldn't be any patterns to game stability issues.

vital sierra
gentle tangle
#

ah

vital sierra
#

so the only server here is your pc

gentle tangle
#

didnt know

vital sierra
gentle tangle
#

ive run it in the past with buddies but only recently has it been breaking

#

idk

fierce nebula
#

GTFO doesn't use servers
it's peer-to-peer
so the person hosting the lobby is the server

verbal zinc
#

It’s peer to peer so it must be on your end

supple gust
#

🍐

past star
#

Pear to pear

limpid iron
#

I was running some friends through R1 a few weeks ago. After starting an alarm, the first group spawned and began to attack one door, but before breaking it they switched to another door and totally ignored the first one. Has anyone else had this happen? Do alarm spawns now take into account whether a door is open/closed/closed and foamed or do they still always take the shortest route?

dry pumice
#

Uh... Not super versed in local enemy AI but i think they will always prioritise an open door. If they can't find one - they will go for the shortest route instead, but i swear i've seen them give preference to no-foam doors before so i can't say for sure.

soft crater
#

since the last update or so. they've been more prone to splitting

tardy ingot
#

tbh a lot of time what people consider random splitting is them being 2 rooms away (which breaks with the AI a bit) or the 2nd door being slightly closer for some of them. (this happens sometimes in r2c2 for example, depending on where they are)

limpid iron
#

I've seen splitting before, but this was the first time I saw a group start on a door, then completely abandon it and path around to attack another one instead. Both doors were closed when we started the alarm.

dry pumice
#

That is weird behaviour indeed... Maybe they concluded that breaking the other door now was the shorter option and so they decided to go for it?

tardy ingot
#

I mean a video would explain a lot

Or the level, player and door situations etc

wise juniper
#

Is there an up-to-date weapon tierlist? I've been experimenting with weapons in almost all of my matches, but I'm really confused

tardy ingot
#

not... rly?
i mean what are you specifically looking for?

craggy pier
#

I like how you say tierlist and eva appears

#

"neuron activation" meme 😄

tardy ingot
#

unironically just a funny timing this time around

#

just finished chemistry workload

upbeat hatch
#

anyone know how to fix the issue where u cant pick anything up or interact with terminals?

craggy pier
#

what's a good weapon for gaint enemies, other than the sniper?

dry pumice
#

Choker can be shot as fast as you pull the trigger so you can walk up to the giant and just go BLAM BLAM BLAM and drop him in a second or two

#

Pump will require a little more dodging since range limitations on it are far great

#

HCP is basically Choker but slower and with HAR you just aim for main body mass and spray until it dies

#

Same principle applies to machine guns, but the kill time on them is not great

craggy pier
#

it's kinda hard when gaints are grouped together 😔

ocean spindle
#

heavy assault rifle i think is kinda for everythin, it can body shot lil ones in a couple shots too so works for bot

ocean spindle
dry pumice
#

Yeah, HAR literlaly barely deal extra damage on headshots

#

Bodyshot gun through and through

ocean spindle
#

thats why i like it

craggy pier
#

delicious recoil though

dry pumice
#

IF multiple giants... Oof.

#

Gotta keep that range so HAR, HCP and Choker are the only options

ocean spindle
craggy pier
dry pumice
#

Fuck, drop the HAR even

craggy pier
ocean spindle
#

no, heavy rifle is for some gigants, not 7 piled up

craggy pier
#

🤠

ocean spindle
dry pumice
#

At that point its not special you need

ocean spindle
#

thats just not cleanin first

dry pumice
#

When multiple giants best gun is HEL Shotgun

#

Ambush them around the corner and dump the mag until they stop moving

ocean spindle
#

can hel shotgun down a gigant? with a mag?

dry pumice
#

Yes

craggy pier
#

that could work

dry pumice
#

It got 20 fucking shots, of course it can

#

And high stagger ensures that they can't do shit to you

#

The thing carried me through R7C3PE

ocean spindle
#

it has 12 cmon
but i guess, idk multiple, i guess i never tried

#

or 14

dry pumice
#

Just spray and pray and watch them dance until they drop

ocean spindle
#

i dont recall

craggy pier
#

it has like 14

ocean spindle
#

yeah 14, 12 was the pr before nerf and maybe the combat shotgun?

#

i am bad with mag sizes

craggy pier
#

think combat does more damage than HEL

#

at the cost of -4 bullets a mag

ocean spindle
#

yes, but staggers less

#

or- a bit i think

#

hold on

weary mesa
#

Hel shotgun has 2.0 stagger

ocean spindle
#

both have the same multiplier

#

then just comes to ammo and damage i think

craggy pier
#

👍

#

sometimes the bots don't help at all with meleeing the gaint, any solo way to do it?

weary mesa
#

Combat doesn't pierce

ocean spindle
#

i would suggest cleanin rooms before the alarm first, if im suspecting right u are in r1b1?

craggy pier
#

Basically just chain stagger him alone

ocean spindle
#

no, think its referin to alarms

craggy pier
#

Nvm then

ocean spindle
#

i mean its good advice but yeah if its alarms do that to clean

#

also mhhh assume they have hammer, fuck hammer

craggy pier
#

felt like they too far, but they came and I started the alarm like it was a scan so 🤠

#

endless suffering

ocean spindle
#

ohhhh makes sense too... but yeah advice is, the same, i mean dont clean the whole level naturally
i dont remember the level very well tho, i swear the alarm was far away enough

#

eh

#

idk

craggy pier
#

best bet is to clean the room with a closable door, since it's just one room then just continuous security doors

tardy ingot
ocean spindle
#

high cal does bad headshots?

tardy ingot
tardy ingot
#

on normal giants a headshot is not even a dmg increase of 3

#

since it has a 0.74x multi on HS

dry pumice
#

And yet headshot is required to oneshot a shooter

ocean spindle
#

i was about to say "it oneshots shooters" and then realized we talkin gigants my bad lmao

#

oh

tardy ingot
ocean spindle
#

i guess at that point just depends on the level and if it has a corner to take advantage of the point blank range shots

tardy ingot
#

i mean shooters have a 5x headmulti...

#

even with the 0.74x thats still 3.7 times the dmg of its normal shot (which is only lacking 5 dmg anyway)

#

once hel gun comes out you dont rly have to worry about stacked giants

#

same for hel rifle

ocean spindle
#

do gigants sprint when u are too far away?
ive seen it mentioned on the wiki, and seein the 1.0 trailer i see a gigant run animation, but is it in-game?

#

ive ever seen it anywhere

tardy ingot
#

yep

#

tho its more like a power walk?

ocean spindle
#

i mean if its like the trailer
thats a run and its very scary btw i would shit my pants

#

how could i see it?

weary mesa
#

That's not a big striker

ocean spindle
#

is it not? it looks like one

#

no, it is

weary mesa
#

It's a big charger

ocean spindle
#

in the trailer theres two big ones, strikers, and one of em is runnin

#

ik big battery chargers do run

#

but big strikers, mamalambas, ive never seen it

neon gust
#

The only giant variant that actually sprints are big chargers

#

Everybody else just kinda sidesteps really fast or a sped up animatio

ocean spindle
#

so i guess its just unused

#

i wonder the wiki does say that

#

maybe its just a faster, like movement not animation

tardy ingot
ocean spindle
#

shadow giant babies

tardy ingot
#

nono. shadow giants have different poses when sleeping. and iirc it kind of influences their movement once awake? (might be wrong)

weary mesa
#

ye

#

Ones with Giant shooter stance attack way faster

ocean spindle
#

ok thats scarier
i wish the runnin giant was in the game now tho

#

in the trailer it looks so hella amazin

#

and super super scary

weary mesa
#

The charger giant is in the game tho

ocean spindle
#

yall can see it, in the gtfo r6 trailer, when theres two giants on a broken door with somethin black on the left side

ocean spindle
#

maybe they only run, when they hear gunshots or somethin

#

like if they are awaken by those

#

and only then they run towards the player

#

i would just, be so scared of that

weary mesa
#

They speed up when not in the same zone with them and they're targeting you

ocean spindle
#

oh so they do?

#

jesus people choose one option KMSKDM

weary mesa
#

Immortal/tank does this as well

#

It's just a sped up animation tho for striker titans

ocean spindle
#

i wanna see those animations
is there any way to do it? ive seen a tank srpint i think, but i wanna see a big striker

tardy ingot
#

dont be the person they target. Have friends be far away

#

ive seen them powerwalk a lot when we did r2b2 running through early and i came from behind (since i didnt get the aggro and my team was far ahead)

ocean spindle
#

cool
im gonna dig the other animation tho eventually, ill hack the fiber of the universe to know where it began

neon gust
#

Funny how their attack speed depends on their stance

vital sierra
neon gust
vital sierra
#

minor spelling mistake, i win

ocean spindle
#

yuo're

vital sierra
#

*yr'oue

red flax
mossy aurora
#

should be triangle. there's a room divider where the hole in the wall is

mossy aurora
craggy pier
#

how much c foam charge do you need to foam scouts/cscouts

vital sierra
#

4 blobs

craggy pier
fierce nebula
#

your mom

craggy pier
pearl iris
#

I think I found a bug, and I have a recording of it. I wanted to put it here to ask if this was my fault or the game's fault. How do I upload a video here?

ocean spindle
pearl iris
vital sierra
#

or put it in tech support

craggy pier
#

Just saw your post, it happens on some tiles

#

I remember having it in R4A1 a lot

vital sierra
#

try restart or verify your game

craggy pier
#

I've no idea what causes it but I'm sure it ain't desynch since I was soloing that time

#

As I'm pretty sure you also are alone in that clip save for bots

icy cave
pearl iris
pearl iris
icy cave
turbid horizon
icy cave
icy cave
pearl iris
# turbid horizon How was the funny?

Ooof. I'd seen a few gameplay vids before and took a shotgun to stagger it away, and thankfully it helped. Plus, I was mostly being carried around a lot lol. So much so that I legit had to ask the others "hey can you save an enemy for me. I feel so useless" 🤣
Enjoyed it so damn much!

turbid horizon
#

Yeah R7 definitely the most difficult rn, R4/5 probably gonna change that

pearl iris
icy cave
turbid horizon
#

I hope R6 gets buffed

icy cave
#

Or at least not one mag them

turbid horizon
#

Bro imagine the D3 surge just spawns like 9 pablo

icy cave
#

But Looking forward to R4 and R5 most. Those will wreck new players if they are close to OG

icy cave
turbid horizon
#

Yeah I’m super looking forward to deep R4 levels and most of R5

icy cave
#

which might be a tad too much

turbid horizon
#

I know I really want to play R4D1, D2, and obviously E1

turbid horizon
#

But there are a lot of levels from R5 that I want to try

#

A1, A3, B1, B2, B3, C2, D2, E1

icy cave
icy cave
turbid horizon
#

OH YEAH

#

add that one

icy cave
#

I redid it SO many times

turbid horizon
#

Quote: “hey, that room looks super packed”

icy cave
#

but yeah R5 and R4 early levels are so wild

#

Compared to current ones

turbid horizon
#

R4 could use a bit of remixing from what I’ve heard ab it

#

A little less error

pearl iris
vital sierra
#

r5 can use a little less charger

icy cave
#

A1 only has secondary tho

turbid horizon
pearl iris
#

Wow

icy cave
turbid horizon
#

Because of it’s overload

icy cave
#

Except R5B2

turbid horizon
#

HHEHEHHE

#

my favorite little gremlins

pearl iris
turbid horizon
#

Nah R5B2 spitters lol

#

You haven’t seen them yet probably

#

Most people despise them

#

I think they’re hilarious

turbid horizon
icy cave
#

First time doing R4A3PE my famous last words as I opened overload: "it's just an A tier, how hard can this be" 😂😂

turbid horizon
#

Also known as “the funny”

#

Kek

pearl iris
turbid horizon
#

A tier extended

turbid horizon
icy cave
#

Cue the Error, on top of a class IV going into a blood door with 7 hybrids behind it 😂

icy cave
#

Honestly even looking at current B tier those levels just hit different

pearl iris
turbid horizon
#

Yeah, Smother, Unseal, Discharge, the rock levels from R4

icy cave
turbid horizon
#

Why were they all rocks

craggy pier
#

I started in r6 and was obviously very bad and I got hard carried through C2 C3 D3 D4

turbid horizon
#

my group started in R6 and never beat D3, 4, X

#

We beat every other level tho

icy cave
craggy pier
turbid horizon
#

I also can’t wait for R3D1 but that’s ab it

icy cave
#

Yeah R3 just will be a lil snack before the main courses

turbid horizon
#

Also here’s to R5D1 getting a slight overhaul because R1D1 exists now

#

Anyways

#

Plane time, bye y’all

icy cave
craggy pier
#

"Your house" said Dakstar

icy cave
#

Leaving US finally !! 🥳

#

He escaped !!

icy cave
craggy pier
#

yet!

icy cave
turbid horizon
#

In US lol, tho I’m very close to Canada

icy cave
turbid horizon
#

Nah dw this college fun

#

I’m in pep band

#

We play Freebird

#

And it fucking slaps

wise juniper
#

what is the cheater situation in this game, considering the lack of anticheat

turbid horizon
ocean spindle
#

or that ive seen

wise juniper
#

thanks lads, makes sense no one will cheat if they matchmake through discord

turbid horizon
#

eh I’ve seen like 1 or 2, but I’ve LFG’ed about 75 times so take it as you will

trim rock
#

It's ridiculously easy to figure out if someone is cheating due to them usually being dogshit at the game and pulling off miracles so only the most braindead people cheat.

sweet fern
#

random question about ingame weapon:
does anyone know which gun the DMR (and Double Tap)'s design might be based on

soft crater
solemn flint
#

But with better mag

#

Better range of fire

sweet fern
soft crater
#

personally I dislike the top heaviness of several guns

#

but yeah they're similar to SCARs

sweet fern
#

i mean
the top part of double tap is from freaking P90

soft crater
#

could just be a riser

#

similar to that of M16 carryhandles

craggy pier
#

First one I'm 100% sure someone was cheating but good luck figuring out who

#

Second one I still have doubts, maybe he was just very lucky or had no fog because glitch?

#

Point is that I don't care much about people with endless magazines or some shit like that because I can just leave

#

But I'm way more torn about some people that REALLY want to hide their cheats, and playing detective ain't really why I log in

ocean spindle
#

i had one like that, with infinite foam and precision rifle, and i shot em with a headshot and went away

craggy pier
#

Obvious cheaters are whatever, the real assholes are the ones that go a long way to hide the fact that they're cheating

ocean spindle
#

no u talked about that later skmdk
but yeah those eh whatever, i guess they are a very hard problem to solve
i dont play lfg either that only time was an ingame matchmake

craggy pier
#

Jokes aside, I dont expect them to solve anything

ocean spindle
#

its a keysmash, laughter
i thought u all youngins new

#

:^

craggy pier
#

I'm not that young 😄

ocean spindle
#

oh well then now u know

ivory raft
#

I'm getting prepared for R7C3, going over the plan, scouting out the map. If anyone has experience on this level can you please give some tips? the farthest I've gotten is a room or two after the quartant Lockdown timer starts and haven't gone back in. Like I think I understand the general idea but just want tips on how to survive after that alarm hits zero.

dry pumice
ivory raft
#

yeah it's after you have the uplink with the charger alarm and then Schaffer rushes Hendrickson and he trips an alarm

dry pumice
#

The goal is to reach armoury, stuff your face with supplies and then get all the way back where you did the uplink - there's a lockdowned door in a neighboring room that will unlock once timer runs out. Optimally you should be standing in front of that door locked and loaded before timer hits 0.

Best tip here is just be stealthy and don't pick fights you don't need to pick. If you can just pass one of the scouts instead of trying to kill it - do that.

#

I... I hope you're not doing this true solo or something.

ivory raft
#

no but I'm the only one of my team that likes to know what we're getting into before spending three hours on one level. But to recap Im fighting towards the armory and then going back to where I did the uplink? or am I continuing forward closer to extract and waiting for more doors to open?

dry pumice
#

You've probably seen a locked door in one of the rooms. Its on a little ramp with a ladder and shit.

prisma ivy
#

all 4 players should have cfoam mine / nade, don't be afraid of using them to kill stuff safely to avoid waking the room, you will find more cfoam in boxes or explosive mines along the way, you can backtrack and use a mine on a door if you wake up a room

dry pumice
#

When timers runs out - that doors unlocks and you can proceed with the level. From then on out you will be followed and harassed by waves of enemies. Your goal after that point will be to just survive for... What was it? 15 minutes or something? You just move forward to find more supplies and defend yourself until the next door will unlock and grants you more access.
This will continue until Hendrikson will finally unlock the final door straight to extraction point. In true GTFO fashion the extraction scan will also take fucking forever.

willow dragon
#

and that assumes youre not doing the overload lmao

dry pumice
#

PTSD intensifies

willow dragon
#

which tbf the overload actually makes the final section easier

dry pumice
#

scuze me

#

how

ivory raft
#

ah yes that's what I was confused about but thank you for reconfirming what I was thinking. just gotta wait on Hendrickson

dry pumice
#

Get to armory > get back > you're standing in front of the door hot and ready > timer hits 0 > Hendrikson unlocks the door and you can proceed

#

Good news: that door is a checkpoint door

ivory raft
#

what is the overload? cause the secondary is just turning the lights off

dry pumice
#

So you can doing the survival part until you give up

willow dragon
#

uplinks

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except its a two person one

dry pumice
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Fucked up super uplinks

ivory raft
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it is?

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thank god

dry pumice
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If got a little green thingy on it

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where is that emoticon...

ivory raft
tardy ingot
dry pumice
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Doors marked by that are checkpoint doors

ivory raft
tardy ingot
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bugs

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lots of bugs

dry pumice
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Checkpoints are notorious for being buggy as shit

ivory raft
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ehh

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I've only ran into bugs with generator cells

tardy ingot
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also personally not a fan since they break the feeling of the game quite often

dry pumice
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I personally have a couple of unfortunate experiences on them on that specific level

tardy ingot
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i mean most levels take less than 90 min

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far less

dry pumice
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Base minimum: you'll be losing a couple frames with each reload

ivory raft
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I'll give the game all the frames it wants as long as it doesn't make me restart

tardy ingot
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but some fun bugs are

  • double size error wave
  • no error wave at all
  • scout insta trigger
willow dragon
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they still havnt fixed the bugs an each new (readded) rundown is gonna introduce more lmao

dry pumice
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Worst case scenario: the spawner will fuck up and start sending waves from the front instead of behind. Have fun being sandwiched.
(Usually only happens if you triggered scouts and didn't deal with their waves before doing the checkpoint)

willow dragon
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i sure love having power cells stuck to my back and not being able to do anything smh

tardy ingot
ivory raft
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yes ik

willow dragon
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yeah 6 7 and 8

dry pumice
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There is restarting 15 minutes survival and there is restarting 50 minutes of cringe ammoless stealth

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After 3 tries that shit feels like pulling teeth

willow dragon
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i think checkpoints are a good thing because the vast majority of the playerbase doesnt have the time nor patience to restart an hour worth of an level because they cfoamed the wrong door or the section is complicated to do

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but

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man they have to fix the bugs

weary mesa
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It's just weird to have 5/7 of the game not having them and then they just pop up out of nowhere

dry pumice
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Game dev hard

ivory raft
dry pumice
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Someone yesterday was laughing his ass off at 10 minute separated checkpoints of R7A1

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IMHO they can take one of those checkpoints out and put them into some of the R2 shit

weary mesa
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I know

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it still extremely weird

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Same with optionals

ivory raft
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I am also struggling with R2 rn as well and would love some more checkpoints

willow dragon
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i dont think a or b levels that dont have secondaries/ov/pe should have a checkpoint

tardy ingot
ivory raft
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facts

dry pumice
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Yeah, seems fair

willow dragon
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man r3 is gonna go by quick

ivory raft
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why? (never played it)

tardy ingot
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not many levels

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no e tier

dry pumice
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No optional objectives

weary mesa
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and every other rundown after

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All the op guns coming

dry pumice
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Presumably (and hopefully) nerfed to appropriate levels

craggy pier
tardy ingot
dry pumice
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Sounds like using the gun as per manual to me

willow dragon
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burst cannon is gonna get nerfed, mark my words

dry pumice
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Unlike how it was used in practice

tardy ingot
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i mean burst cannon is already nerfed

craggy pier
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I mean, even without burst cancelling

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I remember hip firing the thing and still mauling strikers

tardy ingot
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Its a major hit vs smalls

weary mesa
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has too much ammo

tardy ingot
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but its just omega strong anyway

willow dragon
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speaking of weapons, if rundown 8 is the last rundown they better come up with some interesting weapons to go out with a bang

ivory raft
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if eight is the last Im gonna cry myself to sleep

willow dragon
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ive come up with some ideas on weapons they could do

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the only one they really havnt done is a burst pistol like a b23r from bo2 or something along those lines

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other than that, we have pretty much all the weapon types

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other hel weapons or something different entirely i have no idea

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maybe they will add a grenade launcher lmfao

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even though they said they wouldnt

craggy pier
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I'd like an M1 Carbine-like rifle

dry pumice
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We are still missing the "slow" burst weapons like L4D2 SCAR or Titanfall's Hemlok.

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Our bursts are too fast.

willow dragon
craggy pier
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A precision rifle but take away thermals, lower reload time and give it 15 round mag

dry pumice
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That's just DMR no?

mossy aurora
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dmr doesnt 1 shot headshot strikers

craggy pier
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A special DMR

dry pumice
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hm