gtfo-related-questions

[dry pumice]

Best case scenario - we'll see R8 at the end of 2023.

[reef geyser]

How do I obtain the Subterranean Garden apparel, the wiki doesn't say how?

[weary mesa]

Random drop

[lost flame]

the majority of apparels are random drops

[reef geyser]

So every time I win a match, there is a chance for it to drop?

[dry pumice]

Yes

[craggy pier]

Note that only the first completion gives drip

[mossy aurora]

all the researchers are in #gtfo-chat

[dawn comet]

thank you i will relocate my question there

[tiny plank]

bro how do I join someone with their lobby id

[vital sierra]

#how-to-matchmake

Can uplink spawn enemy OUTSIDE of the zone the uplink terminal is?

doing a test and getting mix result in R2B3

[weary mesa]

Only certain one from what I recall

Corrupted uplink is one and the R7C3 uplink too

[vital sierra]

i got enemy spawn outside of zone 167 and the uplink was in B

did some test and enemy was spawning only IN zone 167

but when playing with player, it spawned outside even no spawn block

[past mesa]

it is depending on how it is set up

sometimes it behaves like normal alarm 2 room distance sometimes it is in the uplink zone and sometimes it is from a set location

you only know which is which if you look at the data blocks or with experience

[spark wolf]

you mean with notepad?

[past mesa]

yeah i abuse note pad

what of it

[upbeat pelican]

Does anyone know if there will be a Rundown 7 EXT, extended?
Or we will just be seeing only ALTs upcoming now instead?

[shrewd dirge]

Only alts for now probably

[lost flame]

Possible after r6 maybe

[blazing yew]

Are there 5-use fog repellers? Because 4-use ones are labelled as "80%" full

[lost flame]

Yes, but they're rare

[mossy aurora]

?????

[craggy pier]

I think someone is cheating 🙂

[lost flame]

What

[fierce nebula]

😍 there's a cheater among us ~

[lost flame]

Is there an inside joke im not getting

[vital sierra]

there is no easter bunny, there is no tooth fairy and there is no 5 use fog repellers

[mossy aurora]

there is no memory leak in r7d1

[blazing yew]

6-use ammopacks tho 👌

120%

[noble sierra]

33%/66% c-foam grenades

[copper pewter]

new players here can someone help me with finding out optimal loadout for R1A1 for a duo ? me and my buddy wanna do it together and trying stuff but failing at trying to defend zone 52 door alarm

also best way to deal with scouts without using a shotgun to the face please!!

[icy cave]

Bonk them on the head with a charged hammer

[icy cave]

Mine the door, keep it foamed till all the scans are done

ez gg

[copper pewter]

didnt work for us is it likea specific spot on the head?

[icy cave]

On the head. jump when hitting so you're sure you not hitting neck or shoulders

Takes a bit of feeling but once you get it down consistently it's like riding a bike you never unlearn it

[copper pewter]

so there are 2 door to alarm door which one should the cfoam hold the big or small

[icy cave]

They will only attack the large one if both small doors are closed

so the small on your side and the small door on the other end of that room there

[vital sierra]

new player: ask for basic stuff
GTFO veteran player: open bible

[icy cave]

Hey I started simple !

[vital sierra]

page 2

[icy cave]

He asked for more, I give more

[vital sierra]

"How to bonk enemy, shoot giant and kill gods"

[copper pewter]

thx guys we will try the strat and see how it goes 😄

[icy cave]

you don't shoot the giant. that's the twist

[vital sierra]

that's worse

[icy cave]

??? page 3?

[vital sierra]

you want page 3?????

[icy cave]

Gib all pages plz

[vital sierra]

it's forbidden knowledge

[icy cave]

I won't propagate the secrets of spawning to lesser beings crosses fingers

[vital sierra]

[icy cave]

😂

[copper pewter]

ok we cleared the the door it was awesome thx @vital sierra

oops wrong ping mb

[tardy ingot]

Nope right ping

alpha helped, DjDNA did nothing

[vital sierra]

Job well done

happy to help

[sudden skiff]

how is infection resist % calculated?

[lost flame]

50% resist = you'll be infected 50% as slow basically

It's self explanatory

Yes, you can reach 100% and yes it does negate infection

[ashen moat]

how recommended is to play the game w mods?

[weary mesa]

Not here

[dry pumice]

.t mod

.t mods

.t modding

[uneven gulch]

GTFO doesn't officially support mods and we don't allow them to be played in public lobbies or voice channels on this server, and lengthy discussions should also be avoided (mentioning them is perfectly fine). However, we do recognize that a GTFO modding community exist and if you are interested in them, you are welcome to join the independent modding community Discord server. https://discord.gg/rRMPtv4FAh (If you have any more questions, please read rule #12 in the rules channel for more information.)

[dry pumice]

ay, 3 attempts

neurons firing real good

[weary mesa]

Don't use this server's LFG with mods

[ashen moat]

I wont

🫡

[shut dust]

is it possible to query for the locations of med kits, ammo packs and tool refills

[dry pumice]

Yes? Its called PING.
QUERY command shows specific info about the item: what is it, where it is, how many chargers it has, etc.
PING command pings the precise location of the item, but only works if the item is in the same zone as the terminal.

As in it actually pings with UI element that shows up on your screen, through walls and everything.

[frail herald]

random q, why does r2c2 have ???

[dry pumice]

The standard procedure is something like this:

• Find terminal
• Check what zone this is (usually says on the terminal welcome screen)
• type LIST SOURCES ZONE_[zone number]

MEDIPACK_001
AMMOPACK_001
AMMOPACK_002

• type PING AMMOPACK_001
• your teammates will hear and see the ping and can find it
• you can add -T at the end to continously ping the item until someone finds it (you have to stay at the terminal though and do nothing)
  PING AMMOPACK_001 -T

[floral acorn]

funny name for a level nothing more

[craggy pier]

The first of it's kind, i like the mystery

[floral acorn]

also a "ping" enter will tell zone#, useful if forgor or cant read map 🙂

[craggy pier]

Or can't see zone number at the top of the terminal screen 👀

[hard iron]

I like to use LIST RES E_[zone number] because it's quicker to type, will list all ressources on the zone you are.

[lunar kernel]

guys im doing r1c1 rn, whats the best gun for horde?

[past star]

Either machine gun

And Hel revolver

Carbine good too

Team can take 1 sniper for giants and hybrids

[ocean spindle]

i mean just general guns, just know when to shoot when not, dont try long range shots with a smg

[past star]

Idk I wouldn’t recommend bulpup or PR to anyone ever

:)

[ocean spindle]

bullpup is good if u need the no-recoil and u have people to back u up on reloads
and precision if
u wanna do long shots i guess
kill shooties from afar before they get to u

[lunar kernel]

since all the resources are at the beginning of the level, how are you suppose to access them once you run out?

[past mesa]

You push up to them

Get them and fall back

[tardy ingot]

take dmr. does both, but better

[tardy ingot]

not all are in the beginning. Fill up with the smallest packs tho. then grab the biggest
there will be a lot of ressources in the zone with the bridge (hold there)

[ocean spindle]

i cant drop the machinepistol
i just cant

now its a curse

[tardy ingot]

machine pp

[ocean spindle]

now rifle is my only option for long range

machinepistol has control over me

[violet jungle]

take that back

dont slander them

[past star]

I bet you use spear

[past mesa]

No they use the knife

[lost flame]

I bet you open fire the moment a single enemy wakes up like an outdated bot

[past star]

Actually I do it before the room is up thank you

[lost flame]

I bet you snipe every scout and tried to stealth the opening rooms in r2b2 and fucked it

I bet you full charge hammer every striker and shooter head

And kill giant heads when someone else has a sniper

[past star]

Only because I deserve the clout

xD

[lost flame]

I bet you hoard regen speed and hacking skill boosters

[past star]

I save supply efficiency but only use it for myself because I’m too lazy to give my team resources

[lost flame]

I bet you hipfire the bullpup rifle

[past star]

Too far. I don’t get even close to that gun

[lost flame]

I bet you fan fire the revolver

[past star]

I don’t even know what that means

[ocean spindle]

gtfo players when u dont use hammer

[lost flame]

The revolver is fully semi auto, rpm = how fast u can click

Special revolver that is

[past star]

Ah

I don’t have enough skill to use revolver

Point and click is a skill issue for me

I run the helshotgun and combat shotgun combo

[lost flame]

I'm running out of insults that aren't actually mean

[past star]

Thank you. I enjoyed this

[noble sierra]

revolver fan fire is actually a need-to-know if you use revolver

[violet jungle]

hell yeah i do

[vague bridge]

where are gtfo sounds stored

[spark wolf]

in the balls

[vague bridge]

i knew someone would say that

anyway time for silly billy has ceased

[past star]

It’s all in your head

😎

[vague bridge]

stop being silly billy!!!

its time to be ready freddy

[violet jungle]

how do you think the gtfo crew would react to freddy fazbear

[past star]

Hardcore

[turbid horizon]

probably have one guy die to him then shoot him ngl

It would be bishop

[vague bridge]

dauda would definitely be the first to die

[blazing heath]

I'm looking at a weapon spreadsheet someone made and I'm wondering what the difference between a light precision multiplier and a charged precision multiplier is

[past mesa]

when you are using the melee

you can tap and you can charge

light is for tap and charged is for charged

doesn't really matter to be honest break points dont change that much

[weary mesa]

light stagger multi for spear is 2, charged stagger multi is 1

[blazing heath]

cool thanks

[blazing heath]

wait really?

oh ok, well that makes sense since light damage is less than charge damage

[weary mesa]

No other melee does that

[blazing heath]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[weary mesa]

Just weird that every other melee is the same or more at full charge

[past mesa]

it is becasue they thought people would be running and taping with the spear more

[minor fractal]

I thought they just wanted you to be able to stagger-chain more easily.

Since your damage is too low, otherwise.

[violet jungle]

bishop would definitely die to freddy first

i mean he's literally purple

also the characters who screams the best always dies first

[stoic roost]

Do levels have unmentioned side objectives that unlock other cosmetic items or does the "completed:[1,-,-,-]" mean something else?

[violet jungle]

First Slot = Main Objective
Second Slot = Secondary Objective
Third Slot = Overload Objective
Fourth Slot = Prisoner Efficiency

basically it tells you how many times you've done those objectives

[stoic roost]

Oh. So R1 and R2 don't have those?

[violet jungle]

nope

[dusky tide]

does killing a sleeper when a sleeper nearby is glowing (or not) matter?

[violet jungle]

sorta

depends on distance

[stoic roost]

Another question. Is it possible to unlock the Convex Scorpion Mark I helmet? (The end screen helmet)

[violet jungle]

yeah but most cosmetics are random

only cosmetics rn that isn't randomized are the masks you get from completing rundowns

[ocean spindle]

yeah
usually if everyones not glowin, u can kill em pretty close to each other, i mean not like back to back but kinda close
if ones glowin at a medium dstance n is seein how u kill one, itll prob wake up, cause i think them lookin at u or showin the back matters too

[minor fractal]

Facing direction doesn't matter.

It's a set distance, either 11m or 13m iirc, and it's an RNG chance if you kill something.

Can only wake one sleeper at a time by that method, and it'll always been the closest option.

[dusky tide]

this only happens when someone's glowing right?

[past star]

Yes unless they are too close where distance doesn’t matter

@minor fractal might know that distance

[ocean spindle]

RNG? im not sure bout that

explain pls

[past star]

This is the last man you want to question with that knowledge

xD

[ocean spindle]

not as in- no, as in idk about that pls tell me i have a dumb brain

[past star]

Basically sometimes if they’re glowing and within agro range they don’t always wake up

It’s sorta random

But always expect it

[sturdy glen]

I need to go test that but im lazy af

[ocean spindle]

i guess sometimes can be confused as in when they finish or not the animation
also in bad frames the line can be bent quite a ton, comparin my runs with bad pc and ones with nvidia

bent is that the word?

[past mesa]

like you meet all the requirements to get a long range argo but then a dice rolls

[ocean spindle]

weird i never heard of that

[past mesa]

this is why new players sometimes think sleepers wake up from out of no where

[past star]

Solution: shoot everything

[ocean spindle]

i always thought it was always set, like was a thing of like centimeters or animation or somethin

[past mesa]

close range is always set 100% chance

[sturdy glen]

in the long run it doesnt really matter, youre gonna play the same way either way

[ocean spindle]

i mean yeah but
idk feels funk with somethin like this bein rng, i wouldnt had expect it

[past mesa]

knife has lower rng if that makes you feel better

[sturdy glen]

yeah for a game like this I dont really see why it would be that way

[past mesa]

also you could just force control it so you quick clear rooms

[ocean spindle]

yeah, havin so many parameters as in how waves spawn and all that stuff
havin rng suddenly in sleepin enemies is
aight i guess

but like

why

[sturdy glen]

rng based stealth is a stupid concept imo, but again

its entirely avoidable either way

so it doesnt really matter

[past mesa]

you should probs think about it in terms of it would normally just fuck you and you get a grace when it doesn't roll

[neon gust]

The rng in that its suppose to force players in uncomfortabke situations

If stealth was more predectiable of what it is now it would be more boring

[sturdy glen]

thats a fair enough reason, but I disagree with it personally
if youre going fast enough to have it affect you, you probably dont care about waking the room anyways
if youre new and dont know about it it doesnt make sense to you
and if you are paying attention to it and trying to full stealth stuff, youre gonna make sure nothings glowing anyways or youre intentionally triggering it

[vital sierra]

i think that's just pro vs newbie

a pro are more comfortable to do everything

so that argument is just out of the way completely

except when the room is filled with minibosses

a room where if you didn't stealth correctly and you wake it up = end game

[tranquil beacon]

My game crashed after a Unity notification popped up, now i cant join lobby using codes froom my clipboard

Any idea what caused this and how do i fix?

[upbeat hatch]

anyone know how to disable security for zone 193 in R7 D1?

[vital sierra]

if you do error alarm side

then go deeper about 2 zone

[neon gust]

Lvl 1 crook vs lvl 99 mafia boss

[vivid breach]

Can you play in different server regions or are you locked into one forever?

[neon gust]

Theres no servers

Its p2p

Whoever host the lobby its server

Yes you can play on different regions

[vivid breach]

alright thanks. one more thing tho, will ping matter then?

[neon gust]

Just like anything online

Yes

[past star]

Except r6d3 😎

[vital sierra]

scattergun

[past star]

Pre nerf 🤤

[amber lance]

is there anything i should know before joining runs in LFG? like common etiquettes or something, or maybe some kind of minimum amount of game knowledge

[past mesa]

just jump in man probs do the levels in order and you wil be fine

[vivid breach]

im pretty new to the game too and its easy to pick the basics up, what region are u in?

[amber lance]

am in sea

[vivid breach]

if u want we could hop in a game im also in sea

[amber lance]

got a ton of stuff to do rn, i might play sometime in the near future

[vivid breach]

ok, all good

[tranquil beacon]

can i enter the lobby code manually

The game crashed and i couldn't get back to the previous lobby via clipboard

[craggy pier]

define manually?

If you know someone's name in that lobby, you can search for their steam profile, if you find it, see if they have the "GTFO PLAYING Join here" green button

[tranquil beacon]

Like a box where you can input the code

[craggy pier]

Copy that link, it has 2 string of numbers, the first one is the lobby code

[craggy pier]

no

you copy it, and the game recognizes it

[tranquil beacon]

Oh, thanks for the info

[tranquil beacon]

Well, the thing is it’s already in the clipboard, the game just wont recognize it

It does recognize other lobbies though so i dont know what the hell is going on

[craggy pier]

Check if it has spaces or something

IF you were hosting, code might have changed with host migration

Same if it was a code from a previous match and you changed expedition

[craggy pier]

Either code is wrong or the slots are locked (not sure if slots locked displays that compared to lobby full that just sends you back to rundown screen)

[past star]

Anytime someone leaves the lobby the code changes so whoever is in the lobby still goes into settings and at the bottom hits copy lobby id. Should be a new code you can join from.

[primal plover]

so someone reviewed the game saying that a rundown in 2023 will be the last one, is that true? I haven't bought it yet and that would worry me

[dry pumice]

Unconfirmed, debatable.

Currently we are in ALT cycle.
The devs are re-releasing old rundowns that were previously removed.

We just got Rundown 2 back.
In queue we have rundowns from 3 to 6 (7 is already here).
Release time between them seems to be like 3-4 months.

Rundown 8 is definetely going to happen and it will close the story plot line for good (allegedly).
We do not know if there will be more. Its 50/50.

[primal plover]

would tha be a concern for buying the game or no

[dry pumice]

It shouldn't matter to you as a new player.
The game's content will double in size through the next year.

R8 will deploy as a final touch either at the very end of 2023, or early part of 2024.

[primal plover]

i am still debating on getting it, I don't have a mic for #lfg-north-america and no friends who would have the patience to play a game that requires actual effort

although I heard there was some form of in-game chat

[dry pumice]

There is but it's suboptimal.

Mic us not super required, although some people will get their panties in a twist if you don't. Haven't seen it so far.

[primal plover]

biggest question, would I still enjoy the game? I have the patience to play

[dry pumice]

Local LFG channels are fine.

My only counter question is: how is your PC?

This game's optimisation is 3/5 on a good day.

[primal plover]

24 GB of ram, i5-8400 (0 idea how CPU numbers work), GTX 1080

[dry pumice]

16, i5, 1060

I think you will enjoy it

But be warned, this is NOT a run'n'gun game.

Open combat is the smallest part of the game.

[craggy pier]

I'm going to sound like a douche but "i5" means nothing, i5 2500? i5 10600?

[dry pumice]

Most of the time is spent on stealth and trying to figure out what the fuck the objective even is.

[primal plover]

i feel as if I could play this game, most games I play with stealth I just crouch everywhere, and it seems like that habit will actually help

[dry pumice]

Average mission lasts 45 minutes

[primal plover]

are there checkpoints?

[dry pumice]

With quickest being like 20 and longest all the way up to 80m

Only in rundown 7

Rundowns 1 and 2 do not have any but that's because their missions are easier.

[primal plover]

dying at the end of an 80m, sounds fun

what rundown is it right now?

[craggy pier]

ALT R1, ALT R2, R7

3/8 released if you consider 8th could? is? will be? the last one

[primal plover]

for 28$ there seems to be a lot of content, will probably buy

[craggy pier]

It's debatable but to be honest will all rundowns release I'd say that too

[primal plover]

not amazing at shooters but like you said that is not a giant portion of the game

[craggy pier]

IF you're going to like said content, is another question entirely

Personally, I'd watch some videos of people playing the game (not speedrunning) and get an idea over how the game is

[turbid horizon]

Trust me, if you play this game for a while, you will get good at shooting

[craggy pier]

You probably did already

[turbid horizon]

I’m not talking like Valorant levels

But I used to be terrible, after maybe 50 hours I could hold my own pretty well

[primal plover]

i am also terrible on a PvP scale, not sure about PvE

[dry pumice]

Ever played killing floor 2

[turbid horizon]

PvE, you just gotta get used to how sleepers move

[dry pumice]

On higher difficulties?

[primal plover]

no, but I have seen it

[dry pumice]

L4d?

[primal plover]

also no

[turbid horizon]

And they’re pretty good at being weird movement wise, so that’s why it can take a while to land a lot of shots

[dry pumice]

This is going to be a rough entrance...

[turbid horizon]

Like sometimes I swear they try to dodge

[primal plover]

it is, but hopefully fun

[turbid horizon]

Hey I hadn’t played a single shooter when I started this game

Oh wait Remnant

Lol

[primal plover]

for easier missions coukd I play with AI to try to get better myself or will they throw the entire mission

[dry pumice]

Jesus christ I need to fix my screen...

[turbid horizon]

But remnant had little to no recoil

[turbid horizon]

AI are great in early levels

[primal plover]

my biggest worry without a mic, is what i have seen people do, the synchronised stealth kill. seems like a nightmare without a mic

[turbid horizon]

If you want to practice gunplay, try getting to R1C1 and letting the reactor run

[dry pumice]

Oh that one's easy

[craggy pier]

Hold Q, press 4 then 3

[turbid horizon]

Should be fine

[dry pumice]

There are voice commands

[turbid horizon]

There’s in game quick comms

[primal plover]

can the sleepers here the quick comms?

[turbid horizon]

Nope

[dry pumice]

No

Thankfully

[primal plover]

OH

[turbid horizon]

Sleepers can’t hear any of your mic sounds

[dry pumice]

"let's synchronise!"
"3, 2, 1... GO!"

[turbid horizon]

In game VC and comm wheel don’t affect them

[dry pumice]

And characters even voice it

[turbid horizon]

Except Dauda sometimes

[dry pumice]

Some people refuse to cooperate, but when they do its great

[primal plover]

my biggest experience with shooters is extraction shooters, hunt showdown, cycle frontier, maruaders. But those are PvP

[dry pumice]

Hm

Seen little of hunt showdown

But it seems to be about on par

[primal plover]

hunt is also very hardcore

[dry pumice]

Btw

How good are you at using CMD?

[primal plover]

never done it, make the entry experience even harder

[dry pumice]

Typing basic console commands and shit like that

[primal plover]

my memory is garbage too

[dry pumice]

Welp, time to learn some

Interacting with terminals is very important and you'll have to learn them or have someone else do it

[primal plover]

once it get's engrained in my memory I can type fairly quick. I played helldivers, you need specific arrow combos to call in orbital powers, I was bad at the start but once I memorized it there was no stopping me

[latent obsidian]

Helldivers is so good

[dry pumice]

QUERY KEY_ORANGE_357
LIST SOURCES ZONE_203
PING AMMOPACK_873

[primal plover]

what do the numbers represent?

[dry pumice]

This doesn't make sense to you now, but it will

[latent obsidian]

"SOURCES"? 🤨

[primal plover]

if the numbers represent like room number, then I should be able to get those locked in after 8 or 9 hours

[dry pumice]

It's my way of shortening "resources". For some reason typing 2 extra letters drastically increases the potential for a typo.

[primal plover]

the biggest issue will be me limiting my typing speed so I don't type like QUERY KEY-ORANGE_367

[latent obsidian]

its not really a huge deal being able to type that quick

It makes things go a little bit faster but as long as you understand what you are doing its enough

[dry pumice]

I know some people shorten it to just "E" but then it also lists keys and sEcurity doors and I find it to be undesirable.

[primal plover]

would there be a way to just list all ammo and health avalible in a place or do you need to do ammo seperate from health

[turbid horizon]

I use ES

[latent obsidian]

Why not just res?

Yeah, or ES

[turbid horizon]

I think ES doesn’t catch anything else

[latent obsidian]

I mean I use "u" normally to get special items too

[craggy pier]

or resources like a normal person

[turbid horizon]

But like

[latent obsidian]

like a boomer*

[turbid horizon]

Lazy and typos

[primal plover]

how big of a deal do the boosters effect gameplay

[latent obsidian]

some can affect things drastically

[turbid horizon]

They can pretty heavily affect it depending on the booster

Eg 100% Infect resist

[latent obsidian]

boosters can be a contentious subject

[turbid horizon]

Will make you immune to infection

[latent obsidian]

The levels are designed to be played without them

[primal plover]

see me type a discord without the backsapce it doesna't turn out well in any way (this being proof)

[latent obsidian]

but they can certainly be a difference maker

[primal plover]

aren't they also temporary though

[latent obsidian]

They last for one mission

[primal plover]

that is short, where do you get them?

[turbid horizon]

Yeah, Infect resist and Supply efficiency are the biggest causes of contention that I’ve seen

[lost flame]

Artifacts, you find em across a level

[latent obsidian]

You pick up collectible "arifacts" on missions which contribute to earning boosters

[primal plover]

do you have to use the terminal to find them, I assume

[latent obsidian]

Nope, terminals can't find them

[lost flame]

They're cube looking things

[primal plover]

so you need eyes?

[latent obsidian]

They are relatively common, just need to keep an eye out

[lost flame]

They're easy to spot.

[primal plover]

tell that to me when I am looking for my glasses while I am wearing them

[lost flame]

Look for yellow diamond ish, blue or red cube things

[turbid horizon]

They are VERY easy to see

[latent obsidian]

Sometimes they do hide in floor viscera which can make them harder to spot 😄

[lost flame]

They can also be in boxes and lockers

[turbid horizon]

Brightly colored lego looking things

[primal plover]

so you can only use lockers once you clear a room I assume, because opening lockers makes noise

also I am sure I am gonna get the game, now I am just asking questions tell me to stop if it is getting annoying

[latent obsidian]

Only whacking a padlock and failing a hack lock make noise

[primal plover]

so if it is locked then you can't open it

[latent obsidian]

lock melters can also be used to bypass those silently

[latent obsidian]

Well, only if enemies are close by

If they are like 15m away it certainly won't matter

[primal plover]

do teams usually assign jobs?

[latent obsidian]

Depends on the complexity and difficulty of the level, and the team

And if someone knows what is going to happen

[primal plover]

so like first rundown jobs don't matter

[latent obsidian]

But you might have a "sniper" whose job is to shoot big enemies in the head

The tool you bring dictates your role more than anything

[primal plover]

i heard about a certain type of enemy which you might need a sniper for

[latent obsidian]

Some levels are designed to force your team to split up, you might assign jobs for something like that

[lost flame]

Scouts but typically especially for later levels u wanna melee

[primal plover]

question, is buying a game just buying a bunch of letters(code) , numbers (code), and art?

[latent obsidian]

Otherwise it might just be your job to put your sentry down or put a mine on a door

[lost flame]

Snipers are great for giants tho

1shot to head

[dry pumice]

Explain

[primal plover]

the code is numbers and letters right? and the art is the textures? I mean it is skilfully made don't get me wrong, just a "no dumb questions" idea

[lost flame]

What

[latent obsidian]

And audio I guess, if you are distinguishing it from art

[primal plover]

that's fair

[dry pumice]

You're buying art, basically

[latent obsidian]

I'd also say you are sort of buying a "license" to be able to play the game with other people

[dry pumice]

Well... You're buying a licence to play and experience said art

[latent obsidian]

As its multiplayer

[primal plover]

that's true, when it is online like on steam you are buying the ability to download it

[dry pumice]

Which is insane

[primal plover]

it applies more to sites like GOG rather then steam

[dry pumice]

Industrial revolution and...

[primal plover]

I feel like the bigger games, 50, 60 GB are actually worse for using up so much space, this game only takes up 12 GB

[dry pumice]

Still doesn't save it from chugging like a coal cart.

[graceful brook]

is gtfo playable and fun with 3 (3 as in me and 2 other friends) friends only?

[tardy ingot]

yea sure

[tardy ingot]

its gonna be slightly tougher. But theres not gonna be too much of a difference
A bot can always help you out (tho be careful they have their good and bad quirks)

[lost flame]

For the later levels I strongly recommend finding a 3rd friend to make it 4 or lfg, but if you manage without (or with a bot) more power to you!

[graceful brook]

thank you for the answers, and well

me and another friend likes a good challenge

so we will see

[final pumice]

where's the best place to setup and hold in R1C1 with bots?

[past star]

I’m sure it wouldn’t be too bad just on the bridge. Just staggering sentries. I don’t normally do bot runs so I don’t have the best opinion.

[dry pumice]

is it the survival one?

[wooden osprey]

there is a hole in the wall

3 sentries facing that

plus shotguns/MGs/one sniper (player) is good enough to take it on i think

i never do bot runs so i am improvising here

best option in my opinion is to give hel shotgun to 2 bots and just stay around the hole

they dont miss much and hel pierce is very good on that type of chockpoint

[mossy aurora]

Yeah that's true, you don't really play with me anymore 🥹

[past star]

I never see you post/pub anymore 😭

[mossy aurora]

It's because my life is meaningless without D3

[past mesa]

Soon brother d3 will be back

[past star]

See you in a year when alt://R6 is out

I’ll be waiting for my carry 🥹

[past mesa]

I hope in alt r6 they take out sprinting

[past star]

Ryk is who introduced me to playing the game the fun way. Pulling rooms and shooting everything

[past mesa]

We need to comabte this kiting issue

[minor fractal]

STOP, BRO, THAT'S CHEESE

[primal plover]

what is "hydrostasis" I assume we are locked in whatever for stealing some candy or whatever and in void bastards they dehydrate you, in most sci-fi movies with "inescapable prisons" is crystasis (i don't know why I put horror) , but 0 idea what hydrostasis is

[ocean spindle]

hydro is normally associated with water, hydropower or hydration all that stuff
hydrostasis means that u r submerged in liquid and when this happens u cant 'age' for sayin it in a way, like if it was cryonics but with water and not ice

[mossy aurora]

[dry pumice]

Probably belongs to #gtfo-lore .
Basically its stasis induced by water (or some form of liquid). Your life functions are suspended and can be restarted whenever.
Unfortunately this appears to not do so well for the brain functions. Long-term stasis subjects experience major issues with memory recalling - they can barely remember their names, who they are they, what they've done... Etc.

This was discovered when a certain mars mission went horribly wrong when after awakening the crew caused their ship to crash with no survivors. Supposedly because they couldn't recall how to do their tasks.

[mossy aurora]

If you put one of the zombies into hydrostasis will it then forget it's supposed to eat us?

[primal plover]

thank you for the explanation

[ocean spindle]

i mean they do it like animals so i wouldnt
think so

but idk

[dry pumice]

probably not

their functions are super basic

the amnesia only affects actual real memories

when your entire existence is BITE THE CLEAN ONE its not gonna do shit

well, except... We know for a fact that this somehow kills the parasite.

So actually sleepers wouldn't be able to survive the stasis, most likely

[mossy aurora]

[ocean spindle]

they would get evaporated

[primal plover]

what is a good level to start with

[craggy pier]

R1a1

[dry pumice]

Just do it in orderly fassion

[primal plover]

i feel like that applies to all levels

[dry pumice]

As are the easiest levels.
Bs are basically "normal".
C are "hard"
D are "very hard"
E are "pain"

[craggy pier]

Well u can't host other levels unless you finish the first level of each tier

[primal plover]

so because it is an A level I will die

what does 100% artifact heat mean

[dry pumice]

During mission you find artifacts to gain boosters

[primal plover]

oh, you can only find them during 100% heat?

[dry pumice]

Heat means how much progress they give towards next booster

100% = highest efficiency

[primal plover]

oh so they are better

[dry pumice]

you find them either way

but the weight of the pick up gets reduced

Lets say you picked up enough artifacts to gain 4 boosters

at 50% you will only gain 2, while finding the exact same amount of artifacts

Basically its the level of their quality

It gets reduced whenever you play a level. Its a mechanic co counter playing same level over and over again just to grind some boosters.

[primal plover]

if you play others does it go back up or do you just get to wait for the next rundown

[ocean spindle]

if u play other levels it slowly increases again yeah

[primal plover]

so like 6%+ special damage is a less influential booster

[dry pumice]

Yes.

Most booster are pretty tame

And they are random

You can get from like 5% to 15% weapon damage

with 15% or above usually being with a requirement like "enemy proximity" or "other prisoners proximity" etc

[ocean spindle]

they all kinda do somethin
its not a win but, a lil help

[dry pumice]

Unless you stack 3 boosters with the same effect

+100% Regen Cap is amazing

[ocean spindle]

they go into three categories, each one has stronger effects

[primal plover]

i feel like I am going to get trapped by alternating sleepers at some point

[dry pumice]

YOu never need a health pack ever again

[ocean spindle]

u gonna get sleepered

[primal plover]

are there any other creatures I need to worry abou

[ocean spindle]

nah nah

its ok

u will see em

[primal plover]

i mean in A tier I have a singular idea of one

[dry pumice]

Eh, no

enemy variety is not that great

[ocean spindle]

alwyas better to go blind

[primal plover]

that's fair

some ceiling monster is going to grab me and it is gonna be funny

[dry pumice]

the first 6 rundowns are just same 2 ol' baddies

[ocean spindle]

hell yeah

exactly

the surprise is awesome in this game

[primal plover]

i am going to jump 10 feet when it happens though

[ocean spindle]

yeah and its gonna be cool lmao

[primal plover]

also what is an alt? I am doing alt R1 which I hope is fine

[dry pumice]

The Strikers (biters) - the melee ones (With a maw for a head)
The Shooters (sporeheads) - the ranged ones that can shoot spine bits into you

[craggy pier]

No barnacles in the complex... Yet

[dry pumice]

Then they just make them bigger, faster...

[ocean spindle]

yeah just, cause before there was R1, two years ago, and got replaced by R2
now its back but a lil different, thats why itd "alt"

alternative

same with R2, was replaced by R3 years ago
now its back but funkier

alt R2

[primal plover]

so sometimes it is normal sometime it is slightly different

or am I mis-reading

[ocean spindle]

well now its gonna stay like this, like the "alt" version
its not like it changes from time to time, its just that when they brought it back they fixed some stuff and now its, should be, better

im an ass explainin

its ok

:]

[primal plover]

i got it the second time around

[dry pumice]

They tried an experimental development approach

When they would introduce a rundown then retire it, replacing with a new one

Of course this was by all accounts rather... Counter-productive

[primal plover]

i thought that is how it still worked but upon booting the game up I realised that isn't how it worked

[dry pumice]

They finally changed their mind and now they are bringing old shit back, just with a facelift

So far no major changes as far as a i know

[ocean spindle]

yeah now u get a cool rundown menu

[dry pumice]

Although people claim that todays' guns are much stronger than old ones

Little power creep going

[primal plover]

is lower rundown numner nessesarily easier

[ocean spindle]

uhh kinda

[dry pumice]

Sort of

[ocean spindle]

cause R1 was the first version of the game

was the easiest one

and with R2 they tried makin it harder

and so on and so on

[dry pumice]

And then they slowly creeped it up

[ocean spindle]

R7 isnt impossible nor anythin like that

[dry pumice]

R7 is notably harder by many accounts

But i heard R5 is very bad

[ocean spindle]

but the variety and just difficulty increased

so if u see some recycled stuff in R1 is cause of that, was the test of the game to just kinda vibe with, they had to test missions n stuff

[ocean spindle]

yeah was the last spike of difficulty before lowering, cause when R6 came out, was when the game was fully developed and came out of the alpha

so they lowered the difficulty again

and made it easier for newies

[primal plover]

so R5>R7>6>4>3>2>1?

[ocean spindle]

i would say
based on what ive seen
R5 - R4 - R7 - R6 - R3 - R2 - R1
cause by 4 and 5 the community knew its ways

already knew how to play n stuff

and ive read that the hardest levels where on R4 and R5 if im not wrong

[dry pumice]

you missed 6

[ocean spindle]

oh

[primal plover]

what would I want to equip for the AI, I figured they can get C-foam, I can get lock melter, another one of them can get turret, but then what next?

[dry pumice]

Oh, this one is easy

NO "HIGH RISK HIGH REWARD"

anything that can be spammeed

AR's, SMG's, LMG's

[primal plover]

maybe give myself bio tracker and them lock melter

[ocean spindle]

probably a bat, cause bat staggers, makes enemies go 'whu?' and stuff
also the biotrackers an option

[dry pumice]

they don't care about recoil what-so-ever

[ocean spindle]

i used bio when i started
its a good option
but once u learn how to do stuff efficiently
give it to a bot

[dry pumice]

Burst Rifle / Carbine + Heavy Rifle / Machine Gun is the best loadout

[ocean spindle]

id say all guns r good

[primal plover]

why would you give it to a bot? isn't it useless there

[dry pumice]

Bots cheat

[primal plover]

i meant the bio tracker

[dry pumice]

They are stupid, so devs compensated by giving them some priveleges

First of all: they are perfect stealth mates

They can't make a sound if they tried

IF you hear them shoot - ignore them

They couldn't wake up a sleeper by blasting a shotgun next to his ears

And with biotracker - its the only case when you dont have to babysit them

With turrets, minedeployer and cfoam you have to give them commands to use them

[tardy ingot]

biotrackers biggest strength is pinging enemies. The stealth help is just a neat bonus at some point

and as artek said, they "cheat" with the biotracker pinging. 360 degree higher range pings

[dry pumice]

Biotracker bot uses it all by himself, at twice the range and speed a normal player would

Basically when there's a bot with biotracker on the team - i will always know exactly where all the enemies are

While a player will struggle to refresh the pings without boosters

[primal plover]

how do I command the AI to set things up like a synchronised swing

[sturdy glen]

you cant

[dry pumice]

No syncing on bots

[sturdy glen]

just try to wait for them to get as close as possible to the enemy you want them to kill

[dry pumice]

The official statement from the devs is that its too OP

[sturdy glen]

theyll probably hit it

[primal plover]

so dealing with a room of 2+ people is undoable?

[sturdy glen]

probably

[dry pumice]

No-no, its fine

[sturdy glen]

you can do multikills yourself but

[dry pumice]

The bots will immediately attack any already awake enemies

[past mesa]

No they will shoot the sleepers silently

[dry pumice]

They will melee and even shoot them depending on whats convinient

[craggy pier]

U can solo clear a room it's just that bots wont help unless an enemy wakes up

[dry pumice]

and again: they are completely 100% silent

[ocean spindle]

woh back again

[dry pumice]

so don't mind them blasting a sleeper from across the room

[winged turtle]

its surprising, but not a problem

[ocean spindle]

if u r gonna clear rooms with bots, biggest thing
trust em
if u fail they will help

[primal plover]

so I hit one in the head didn't see a pulsating one, the room woke up but it just kind of work

[ocean spindle]

maybe one that was a bit far away saw it

or maybe the thing u killed just woke up, then died, the music when "wow hold on" and panic

[primal plover]

is there a list of all the item names to PING

[ocean spindle]

that happened to me

[ocean spindle]

in commands
u can see one that says "list"

thatll help u

[dry pumice]

LIST ZONE_XXX

Everything it will list - you can ping, as long as its the same zone the terminal is in

you can ping resources packs, boxes, doors, objectives items...

[ocean spindle]

ping pings

[dry pumice]

But you can't ping utility consumables like glowsticks, lockmelters, etc

Likewise - they do not show up on terminal scans

[primal plover]

how do I figure zone out? there is "door_557" does that help at all

[ocean spindle]

doors have the zone they lead to in the corner

[dry pumice]

Its written on the doors and on the terminal welcome message

[ocean spindle]

and theres signs

did u played "training"?

[sturdy glen]

this is the easiest way

[ocean spindle]

i always forget that exists

[sturdy glen]

if youve filled the terminal screen already info brings the welcome stuff up again iirc

[winged turtle]

there are 3 criteria you can list search items by
name: ammopack_420
location: zone_69
category: resource

[primal plover]

if it isn't security scan door then it doesn't change zone, right?

[sturdy glen]

correct

[winged turtle]

the command "Info" on a terminal will tell you what zone the terminal is in

[sturdy glen]

it changes the a, b, c, etc (the room)

[primal plover]

so could I do list resource zone_z49

[ocean spindle]

the z uh will not work

cant list areas

a b c are the areas

[winged turtle]

zone_49

[ocean spindle]

77 78 79 are the zones

[winged turtle]

but yes

[primal plover]

ah ok

[craggy pier]

The rooms to be specific

Terminal will only acknowledge rooms when pinging items

[winged turtle]

yaaa when a door says " z49"
its short handing "zone_49"

[primal plover]

also how do I drop consumables, sorry for asking so much

[ocean spindle]

its ok

u cant

[winged turtle]

no drop only swap

[ocean spindle]

only swap with more consumables

:]

[winged turtle]

and asking questions is how you learn!

[ocean spindle]

u will have to carry those glowies forever now

[primal plover]

are you looking through my window

[winged turtle]

those glowies are tattooed on your soouuulll

[craggy pier]

Or shove em inside the next sleeper u see

[ocean spindle]

just yeah also learnins a huge part of this game
so experiment

[winged turtle]

throwing them doesn't make noise, so set up for a rave!

[ocean spindle]

nono
dont close it tho

[primal plover]

doesn't light wake them up though

[ocean spindle]

wow my internet just died so hard

[primal plover]

it's -5, but the blinds are open sso sure

[winged turtle]

Only your flashlight

[ocean spindle]

yeah
did u played "training"?

[primal plover]

i did, but glowies are useless if light wakes them up, just confirming knowledge

[sturdy glen]

glowsticks dont trigger them

[winged turtle]

environmental lights and glowsticks do not affect their alertness level

[ocean spindle]

oh the light from glowies doesnt wake em up

[primal plover]

oh

[ocean spindle]

only flashlights

[craggy pier]

Makes Soo much sense

[winged turtle]

The only "consumables" that wakes them up are explosive trip mines

[ocean spindle]

i mean i think that a directed light they arent used to would startle em
glowies r softer light

[primal plover]

and long range flashlight I would assume

[ocean spindle]

and enviromental, they been with those since they arrived

[winged turtle]

same alertness trigger, longer range

[tiny tundra]

LRF does too yes

[ocean spindle]

idk try :]

light em up

[winged turtle]

just flash em

[ocean spindle]

yeah

[winged turtle]

[craggy pier]

But what about the industrial lights laying around

[primal plover]

they are probably adapted to those

[winged turtle]

they do be flickerin

[craggy pier]

Can't tell me that doesn't blind you too

[ocean spindle]

they noticed those when they arrived
its not like they r just discoverin em

the flashlight just suddenly appears

[winged turtle]

been there long enough to learn and ignore the patterns i guess

[craggy pier]

Scientific team on the case ty for the confirmation 🫡

[winged turtle]

🤝

[primal plover]

so I know the key is in room H, where can I figure out where H is

[ocean spindle]

explore

doors will say what area they lead to

[sturdy glen]

can ping it for a general idea, the rooms will have the zone letter on the wall

[ocean spindle]

eventually u will find H

follow the ping

[primal plover]

how does ping give general idea?

[sturdy glen]

it has a visual indicator

[primal plover]

i didn't see that

[sturdy glen]

ping it and get off the terminal and look around for it

[primal plover]

it never said that it in the tutorial

[ocean spindle]

when u done typing the command, get out of the terminal and listen and look around

the command will keep goin

[primal plover]

oh it worked really well

[ocean spindle]

yeah

u can see the lil circle

:]

[primal plover]

what does alarm class mean? This is alarm class IV and am a teeny worried because that is a big number

[sturdy glen]

more "waves" of scans

[primal plover]

i already did an alarm in this area so how bad can this one be

[ocean spindle]

so u did a class
2 i think

no a class 3

[primal plover]

it was 2

dang we died, we were all at 20% health

[craggy pier]

Twice as long

[primal plover]

how were there more sleepers? I already did an alarm here

[sturdy glen]

alarms spawn enemies

[primal plover]

ah

[ocean spindle]

they spawn, not come from somwhere

[craggy pier]

1 team scan
3x 4 small circles

[ocean spindle]

its fine tho, u saw how it is now u can do it again mor eprepared

[primal plover]

i think it is fair of me to think they spawned

[sturdy glen]

(those enemies CAN wake up more, if there are still sleeping ones)

[primal plover]

it took me 30+ minutes to look for the key I could have done a lot better

[tiny tundra]

Gotta start somewhere

[ocean spindle]

yeah its just learnin, now u know how stuff is

how it plays

and u can start strategizing

[primal plover]

is this the same layout?

[tiny tundra]

Yes

[ocean spindle]

same layout
diff enemies, boxes and names of things

i mean not diff enemies but, different positions of em

[tiny tundra]

Enemy placements, resource locations, and some heavy objects change but the level itself is always the same

[craggy pier]

It can change size of the enemy

[ocean spindle]

if u first saw 3 enemies in the first room its cool! maybe next time theres 20!

:>

[tiny tundra]

Always roughly the same number of enemies the distribution is just random

[ocean spindle]

yeah but u never know

could be 20

[tiny tundra]

Oh I love R5

[ocean spindle]

my face when two rooms away a room cleared:

tryin to not spoil lmao

[primal plover]

my AI is peppering me with ammo right now

i have 74% and 96%

[ocean spindle]

bots r very
efficient with ammo

[craggy pier]

AI priorities you for resources

AI, unlike most humans, is kind

[ocean spindle]

they cool

hacketts a hero ah

[craggy pier]

Although u don't want em to do that most of the time

[sturdy glen]

kind, but not smart yea

im happy I havent had a pub where ppl hogged resources yet

[craggy pier]

I remember a guy ragequitting R6C2 because someone "stole his disinfection pack"

[ocean spindle]

jesus

[primal plover]

his?

[ocean spindle]

he him

pronouns :>

[primal plover]

i hate when I have my flashlight on and almost start a death rave with the sleepers

i am sad

[ocean spindle]

the death rave went well

huh

[primal plover]

uh not that

there was a tendril boy

[ocean spindle]

oh the funky

there was tho

lmao

[primal plover]

i woke one up by bonking a locker and they all stopped power napping

[ocean spindle]

oh yeah
thats why lock melters

[primal plover]

i didn't see any in loadout menu

[ocean spindle]

oh no as consumables, like glowies

[craggy pier]

you find those in boxes, lockers, around

[primal plover]

in the sleeper's defense if I was taking a nice 150 year nap and someone woke me up in the middle is I would be ticked off

OH

[ocean spindle]

yeah just suddenly hearin
a lock gettin bashed lmao

i would be surprised

[primal plover]

class IV alarm take 2

[ocean spindle]

aight good luck
u can use gtfo chat from now on

as in no questions for now

[primal plover]

i do have a question

on bio tracker there are big white dots, I know those, but also red little dots?

[ocean spindle]

big red dots r mobin people
but smol almost invisible dots r sleepin enemies too
its been said its a visual bug

i think that was the explanation

[primal plover]

big red are the tendril boys

i know what they are called

[ocean spindle]

big red are movin enemies in general

if u get out ur biotracker when theres an alarm, u will see a lot

[primal plover]

i had asking so much, what are the tall guys

skinny tall

[ocean spindle]

the
big tendril thing?

[primal plover]

no tendril

[ocean spindle]

the sleepin ones
with the big deep sound?

[primal plover]

i think

[ocean spindle]

scary?

[primal plover]

always

would you mind me DMing you an image?

[ocean spindle]

go ahead

[pulsar kraken]

theoretically speaking, how is skill measured in GTFO?
is it by the amount of rooms you've cleared to keep your allies from going down?
or is it the amount of scouts you can curb stomp without breaking a sweat?

or is it the amount of times you tk'd your friends at extraction?

[primal plover]

what does an HSU even look like

[ocean spindle]

skill is just not dying when u do levels

[ocean spindle]

a big weird box

[primal plover]

like on a shelf?

[pulsar kraken]

as a mine deployer, all of these prompts have very different answers

[ocean spindle]

no, bigger
like the size of a human
if u e in the correct zone, read everythin u see, u will see some hints sayin "hsu_blabla"

[pulsar kraken]

think a human sized egg that is very much mechanical that has a metal frame around it

[ocean spindle]

i mean just general skill can't be quantified easily in a game like this
a slow gamer and a fast one can be the same skill if they don't die in the harder levels, even if one takes way longer

[pulsar kraken]

fair enough

[primal plover]

i am such an idiot

i have passed it 10 times

[ocean spindle]

lmao it's fine
that happens to me with boxes

i can't find em for hells sake

[primal plover]

the security scan just made me and the AI jump into a corner together

[ocean spindle]

now three
two
one

funkyness

[primal plover]

i just did combat in a room and it didn't wake a big boi up, is that normal? are they really deaf?

[ocean spindle]

uhh people alert when the stimuli is two rooms away
so maybe i were in a corner far away enough to be two rooms away

[primal plover]

we just died at the security scan, that's unfortunate

i used all the medkit on the AI hoping they could help beforehand and they would not appear to be able to help

that's enough of that game lmao

i was not expecting a constant alarm upon getting the data sample

[ocean spindle]

yeah it's a last party
but hey u got to the end
next time u could try with the lfg to find people to play with
i would but, won't be able till next year lmao

[primal plover]

so get keycard, get to human egg, leave without dying

seems simple on paper

[craggy pier]

Yes

[primal plover]

but whoever is sending us down isn't smart enough to turn the alarms off so we get to deal with the sleeping people

[ocean spindle]

i like to think that whatevs sendin u down there can't deal with the alarms so just relies on u

:]

[primal plover]

that might be it

[tardy ingot]

wouldnt it just be a lot of different things mixed together?
like you can be the best scout killer in the world but not be able to shoot at all

[mossy aurora]

Imo skill in this game is broken down into 2 categories, mechanical skill (shooting, aiming, meleeing, movement) and decision making (knowing when to do what, how to problem solve when situations get dicey)

[ocean spindle]

i'm good throwing glowies

[past mesa]

Most games are like this but yeah

[mossy aurora]

I guess ability for team play would/could be a 3rd factor

[tardy ingot]

from what i remember one of the main story character sent the whole thing into lockdown by accident. These lockdowns require bioscans for reopening and the warden doesnt seem to be overtly human

teamplay itself is probably a mix of the first 2 still
obviously being able to be a team player is also a thing. but thats minor unless you completely suck at it

[pulsar kraken]

i still think tk'ing your team at extraction could fit in a category

being able to be a clown but not nuke everyones progress

[tardy ingot]

we teamkilled ourselves today at a clean 100% extract

perfect timing

lost the run

[pulsar kraken]

lol

[tardy ingot]

ye every run outside the ones that went super well, if we had mines we laid them out on extract and someone would shoot them.
most of the time we survived. that one time was perfect tho

[pulsar kraken]

speaking of mines, i don't know how it happened, but last night i somehow bugged and was able to survive my mine blast from the one point, it was funny as hell

and before you ask, yes i tried to run in to the horde and explode, they got to me first

[craggy pier]

There was a glitch that allowed you to be immune to mines if you were crouched near it or something along those lines, if I remember

Back in R6

[pulsar kraken]

if i remember correctly me and a friend were doing a small bit before i did the good ol' mine deployer thing and win an argument, but i didn't die for some reason, so i placed another, still nothing

[winged turtle]

back to back to back, no mine damage deaths

it was hilarious

[pulsar kraken]

except for you, you may have exploded twice when we discovered it

[craggy pier]

I kinda remembered wrongly "Fixed bug where mines won't damage a client unless he was crouching or jumping"

[winged turtle]

ohh it still hit enemies *and others players

[pulsar kraken]

damn

i was lied to

[winged turtle]

but just not you

or i missremembered

i was late and it was drunk lol

[pulsar kraken]

good news, i am no longer bugged

[craggy pier]

Yo me and my friend couldn't beat the first level xd, and he gave up so i had to try alone and it was fkin impossible, tried with bots but they feel wonky. Does anyone know where I perhaps know where someone would play with a noob? :)

[tardy ingot]

lfg beginners (read how to matchmake)

Did your friend fully give up up or just for the evening? Did you try it together with bots or only you 2?

[craggy pier]

Both bots and only us two, I think he refunded it D:

wussied out

[past mesa]

https://discord.gg/WxJ8cA6j come i will adopt you

[craggy pier]

I am at the shower atm D:

I shall perhaps join after the shower if you'd delight me :)

[past mesa]

frist rule of gtfo no shower

but sure

[craggy pier]

Thought that was Rust's nr1 rule

[past mesa]

take your time

[tardy ingot]

Unironically the opposite of a power move lol

But yeah, take it slow and observe stuff. Jish here is a real homie tho and will probably give you a speed boost through learning the basics of the basics

[past mesa]

no i will teach them incorrectly

but correctly

[tardy ingot]

bots are definetly good enough to completely carry you through most early missions. If you let them (aka if you dont mess it up for them )

[past mesa]

the true way of learning this game

[craggy pier]

Is that a challenge for me to solo the whole game?

Is soloing the game possible actually?

[tardy ingot]

pure solo or bot solo?

[past mesa]

yes but wouldn't recommend unless you got some time on your hands to learn it

[craggy pier]

Le'ts say raw willpower solo

[past mesa]

bots make it harder depending on the mission

[craggy pier]

Ah I see

[tardy ingot]

pure solo. Yesnt. Some Levels have only been done with major gamebreaks. Most can be done with some cheese and tons of experience

[craggy pier]

How about no "bugs"

But with bots

And let's say you got godly aim and godly experience

[tardy ingot]

All levels rn available have been done with bots (and all that had bots before)

[craggy pier]

ah

[tardy ingot]

just usually done by people who can nearly solo them anyway and play a lot with bots

[craggy pier]

I reckon the hardest part is ammo management or am I completely wrong?

[tardy ingot]

eh. It rly depends

theres more ammo than you think

[craggy pier]

Yeah prob, many factors

there is?

One security check and I'm outta ammo man

[tardy ingot]

with bots its obviously harder since they shoot for themselves and in solo alarms take longer = more shooting

[craggy pier]

With a full stack I reckon it's heaven

[tardy ingot]

funnily enough. Both jish and me speedrun and looting for ammo is usually not the biggest thing we have time for

obviously thats based on a ton of experience.

But looting well, stealthing well, preparing well and knowing what guns kills what well is gonna safe a ton of ammo

[craggy pier]

Have you guys completed all the missions?

or rundowns

Forgot what they called

[tardy ingot]

Rundowns are the sets of missions

[craggy pier]

ahh yeah

Oh I gotta re-download gtfo, may have rage uninstalled it

happens to the best of us

I hope

[tardy ingot]

Game has a steep learning curve

tho i never uninstalled. I adore the failing part in a hard level

[craggy pier]

like tarkov

You do?

nah u a

whats it called

masochist

[tardy ingot]

i mean its way sweeter getting a hard fought and struggled victory after a few attempts than a gifted one

doesnt mean i dont love getting a sweet first try clear

[craggy pier]

In my eyes a victory is a victory

no matter how broken the victory was

[tardy ingot]

it still kicks different

[craggy pier]

That's true

hard fought victory

than a petty one

[tardy ingot]

a victory with no struggle becomes boring quick

[craggy pier]

depends on the struggle

If it's minimal but needs skill it's a bit fun

[tardy ingot]

its why the early levels become boring for a lot of people (the mission you for example hard struggled with just now)

[craggy pier]

b-boring?

I ain't even wanna know what kinda creatures lie ahead

[tardy ingot]

What mission did you try exactly?

r1a1?

[craggy pier]

Yeah

then r7 I think it's called

failed both

[tardy ingot]

yeah. Those 2 specifically are pretty simple and short missions

[craggy pier]

they are? D:

That makes me sad yet happy

[tardy ingot]

Only having 3 different enemies (well r1a1 has 4, technically 5 sometimes)

yeah both are comfy 10-15 min missions if you arent new or pushing for speed

[craggy pier]

Ah

The tentacle dude is scary as hell

[tardy ingot]

experienced setup makes them such a cakewalk that you basically afk for 8/10 minutes

[craggy pier]

bruhhh

Luckily I have the excuse of "inexperience"

[tardy ingot]

its not even an excuse. Its normal

whats important is observing and trying to understand the base mechanics now

[craggy pier]

yeah

We spent like a good 10 minutes just remembering the god damn keycard code

It's 2am now so I think I'll be ready 2-3 days, gotta prepare for christmas tomororow ya know

[past mesa]

okay dont worry new gtfo players get cold feet all the time

[craggy pier]

xd

The re-download demotivated me

[past mesa]

i understand

you will learn some other day

[craggy pier]

I shall learn at the 26th of december, that's a promise

If not by you, than it shall be some other

[obsidian grove]

im assuming you are new do not be sad! gtfo is a difficult game for newer players the earlier levels are going to be a bit hard so dont let up man ull be doing the harder expeditions in no time 🙂

[obsidian grove]

you know its ironic the key to dealing with the "tentacle dudes" aka scouts is to actually have balls to the walls confidence

when u walk into the tentacles there is a delay for the scout to wake up and call reinforcements, that delay u can just walk up with a fully charged spear or sledge melee right to the head for a satisfying spaghetti bonk

[lost flame]

With spear you can't sprint keep in mind

But yeah

I've trained myself to hate scouts enough to warrant my confidence against them, that's my trick

[icy cave]

yes Spear is more of a handicap than a tool

[lost flame]

You're a tool

[icy cave]

Yes teams use me to complete missions

so in that sense

[lost flame]

Fuck

[amber lance]

man i remember when i played with my friends, when we saw those tentacles squirming through the air it was just like those horror movies where the characters sit still behind some wall while the monster creepily walks inches from their faces

those moments hooked me

[lost flame]

You've never interacted on discord before have you💀

[winged turtle]

thats a uh
Big Yikes Chief

[lost flame]

yea in hindsight I didn't think of doing that when I was new to discord either

[heavy charm]

nvm apparently they were not supposed to be there in the first place YET. My fault all good

[manic knoll]

R1D1 i typed the command reactor_verify and finished the scan with the team, but it wont do anything

it just says to start the bioscan

[minor fractal]

Have you tried extracting?

[violet jungle]

what did it say

message was deleted apparently