gtfo-related-questions

[fierce nebula]

I'm being confidently incorrect so someone yells at me

[stable wind]

I feel you, but from what I’ve seen that answer doesn’t seem to be truly incorrect.

[vital sierra]

i don't think so

last time i played r2d1, 1 of the zone have surge wave worth of enemy

[slow stone]

hmm interesting

as I would think there is a max spawn amount as if there is not, how is it stopped that all the enemies arent in a couple rooms only (if there is an set amount)

as if the enemy amount is randomly created then i'd think that some rooms would have lot of enemies as some would have basically nothing

[vital sierra]

i guess it was based on the room itself

if the room is big (like r5a1) it can spawn more than 10 enemies

but it still false since sometime, small room can be packed because the devs can just adjust the amount

[slow stone]

that is true

[vital sierra]

so, no clear answer

just play the game

[slow stone]

I don't currently know how to navigate the game files for info so I guess I shall just enter a map and do 100 or so runs to find an average :D

[vital sierra]

check modding server then

.t modding

[uneven gulch]

GTFO doesn't officially support mods and we don't allow them to be played in public lobbies or voice channels on this server, and lengthy discussions should also be avoided (mentioning them is perfectly fine). However, we do recognize that a GTFO modding community exist and if you are interested in them, you are welcome to join the independent modding community Discord server. https://discord.gg/rRMPtv4FAh (If you have any more questions, please read rule #12 in the rules channel for more information.)

[slow stone]

Yeah I'm already there

[vital sierra]

either do this or just jump in level 100 times

[slow stone]

dunno might be more fun to do 100 times

[tardy ingot]

so 3 enemys ?

[vital sierra]

we got like 20

in a single room

[tardy ingot]

i was memeing on the "surge wave worth of enemys"

[vital sierra]

i didn't count but, the bio can't even ping them all

[tardy ingot]

its always fun when you get a spawn cap worth in a room

[vital sierra]

it's an OH SHIT moment

[tardy ingot]

especially when you also just did an alarm and a wave is coming

[vital sierra]

oh ye, we just finished the alarm scan

just memeing around

get punish

"triggered the scout and the room, how bad can it be?"

[tardy ingot]

r2c1 in a nutshell

[vital sierra]

scout wave can't even spawn

[tardy ingot]

or r2b2 when you ignore the giants and just run through with cells

r2b2 is unironically so hard

[tardy ingot]

this
then you push somewhere back and the wave spawns on ANOTHER scout

[vital sierra]

i was so piss of myself when i triggered a scout in r2d2

i thought the room was connected like the og

"damn, i'm so shit at the game, the team is going to wipe and it's my fault"

"it's going to trigger 6 other scouts"

enemy spawn outside

[tardy ingot]

you mean connected as in room divider?

scouts dont trigger through room dividers

that zone is one of the zones i miss tho in r2d2

[vital sierra]

||i thought i triggered that 10 scouts room in og r2d2||

[tardy ingot]

it was so much harder and exciting

[fierce nebula]

skill issue

ngl

[slow stone]

all 4 of us managed to die to an singular normal big boy

that double hit back hand was huge

we in fact, did not shine our flashlights as a joke on them anymore after that

[icy cave]

Yeah Mike tyson do be hittin hard

[covert iris]

@vernal slate

[slow stone]

[vernal slate]

Lol

[sudden skiff]

Any tips for using tool that a beginner may not know? I've watched a couple how to videos, but I'm curious if I missed anything of value

[tardy ingot]

youve seen scalers tool guide?

[past mesa]

nuggies stealth guide is very good and hinoki soloing guide I would look at https://youtu.be/5I8zpdZNvoI

[winged turtle]

you can use tools and sprint at the same time

[cloud fox]

Hi there, had a thought/burning question, dunno if it’s been addressed. Not 100% if this is the right place to ask.

With rundown 3 likely coming next, is the lore regarding the corrupt data from the alpha protocol going to be changed since we are technically “returning” to that same level to get a fresh sample in r3… c1 I think it was?

I also had a thought that it would be kinda cool if they re-added the Alpha level as a mini “Rundown 0” which could also make for a deeper training level for newbies.

Sorry if wrong place, dumb, unknowable question. Very tired and figured I’d ask.

[vital sierra]

yes, it is

[winged turtle]

I don't know what your words mean magic man, but I like the sound of them

[fierce nebula]

I mean R1 is already possible to finish in 2hrs

[sudden iron]

which is better machine gun XII or the arablest one

[ocean spindle]

the veruta XII its faster, a bit more uncontrollable and with more ammo, works for somethin like corridors or doors to like make sure every shot hits somethin, its very crowd control tho if u somehow control it can be used for idividuals too, the arbalist V has less ammo, a bit more damage, its more controllable and works kinda for both situations even if its main thing its still crowd control
so just depends if u wanna go full pew pew or wanna time it a bit more, cause i think the arbalist V is good in like bursts n stuff

[fickle mulch]

you're what by scout?

[fierce nebula]

[sudden skiff]

can you query partial decoders? how do I find them?

[ocean spindle]

if i recall, which i may not, they were called pd in the terminal
u can use commands on the terminal n see what can help u with that

[floral acorn]

pd or pdec

(list pd will find both 🙂 )

[sudden skiff]

it was pd, thank you

[slow stone]

Not sure if this is the right channel, but is there an way to play on 4:3 stretched?

[silver fable]

they're both good, but veruta is genuinely overtuned

I think arbalist sticks in its lane a little more than the veruta

arbalist isn't amazing into bigs the way veruta is

they probably both get too much ammo though

[sudden skiff]

are the melee weapons' tap LMB the same speed? or are some faster? I would assume fastest to slowest is knife>bat>hammer>spear

[floral acorn]

hammer and spear might be on par but knife def fastest

[slow stone]

spear is actually surprisingly fast

[slow stone]

I mean if you spam multiple left clicks, spear is at least faster than hammer right?

[tardy ingot]

idk
i mean it would still suck to do so

[slow stone]

I don't use spear, just remembered seeing a video about melees

[fierce nebula]

the spear is the fastest weapon in the game boys

[minor fractal]

Knife users in shambles.

[fading tangle]

the spear is good as long as you don't hit enemies with it

[sudden skiff]

anyone know a good video on solo stealth killing giants with a hammer? I can't seem to get the timing right, and I get hit before I can destroy the next limb

[vital sierra]

you should charge about 70-80% for the 2nd hit and so on

[sudden skiff]

every time I charge for that long, they hit be before I hit them. And when I try to swing sooner, it doesn't destroy the limb or stagger

[vital sierra]

you could also try to bait them to melee you

[tardy ingot]

try staying behind the giant?

[sudden skiff]

I want to minimize how much they move to prevent waking up adjacent sleepers

yea maybe I need to be behind them so they take longer to attack, so I get enough time to charge

so far I've only been able to kill them twice out of 10ish attempts

[minor fractal]

You'll want back damage.

Also, be aware that the facing angle for max back damage is fairly tight (within 22.5 degrees compared to where your target is facing).

[tardy ingot]

kill those first?

[olive glen]

Hi, I'm new to gtfo, umm I trying to complete r1b1, but cant find checkpoints. Are there checkpoints in this game?

[sturdy glen]

Only in r7 (and 6 but only 7 is available rn)

[olive glen]

Ahh I see I see, thank you.

[icy cave]

there's no need for checkpoints in R1. It's the easiest (basically a tutorial) and the shortest rundown by far

[tardy ingot]

theres never a need for checkpoints
they can be helpful, but god

[icy cave]

True but I tried to stay positive 😅

Whole of R1 is just 2.5 hours anyways

[tardy ingot]

man i rly gotta get the r1c2 speedrun going

so we can say "its less than an hour"

[icy cave]

Gotta go fast

[icy cave]

I see more and more new players thinking that R7 is the intended starting point cause it has checkpoints so it HAS to be easier right?

poor lost souls

[tardy ingot]

i mean it starts out easier

then it becomes at least as difficult. then it spits on their difficulty

[icy cave]

Yeah and then they hit B2 or C1 😂

[tardy ingot]

i mean B2 is ooook

[icy cave]

Not for new players. too long for them

[tardy ingot]

B3 and C1 tho

[icy cave]

They don't make it to first CP

Like first alarm in the fog is already the wall

[winged turtle]

B2 is not a huge difficulty spike, but if R7B1 was your second level than B2 can take hours

but ya R7B3 and R7C1 are steep from B1

and i have now seen 3 rundowns of B levels, R7 starts hitting steep steps Fast™️

[tardy ingot]

r4 and r5 silently laughing

💀

r4b1 and beginners is a fun mix

[winged turtle]

ahhh i guess R7 is in the middle of the pack then

i am just an R7 baby

[wary linden]

oh no. giants and infectious fog. what shall we do

[winged turtle]

segx?

[wary linden]

legit not a hard level... considering it was my very first level i dropped into with friends that were struggling in B tier normally and it was done in a single attempt.

[hardy grotto]

wow ur all so good at gtfo

i wish i was this good

[winged turtle]

same

[wary linden]

ok so a fresh new player drops into a game he never played and is fine. "we must disregard his opinion!"

[winged turtle]

i remember being a beginner like it was...
checks calendar
today

[hardy grotto]

im still hardstuck a1 :((

i wish one of the professionals could carry me...

[thorny creek]

I am not a professional, but I can carry you.

[hardy grotto]

idk, u love kiting so im not sure i can play with you

i would only play this game the intended way!

[winged turtle]

i only play with people who don't have GTFO installed

[thorny creek]

Select your carrying vehicle:

• Forklift (10$)
• Bike (15$)
• Car (30$)
• Excavator (40$)
• Bulldozer (60$)
• Russian BTR (100$)
• Kovac Miniature truck from Flood ways (1000$)
• Mech (2000$)
• Gmod Physics gun (10000000$)

[winged turtle]

no vets, no intermediates, not newbies, no speedrunners, not on a plane, not on a train, not on a boat, not with a goat

[past mesa]

Could I have a bike with a side of bulldozer

[thorny creek]

So one leg in the bulldozer and one leg on the bike

Gotcha

We are not responsible for possible manslaughter

[winged turtle]

could you carry me with the physics gun? but only 0.0001% of the way?

[thorny creek]

Sorry, it's full price or nothing

[sturdy glen]

Most boring level in existence

[thorny creek]

Agreed

[winged turtle]

R7 baby so i can't confirm, but it is a real fucking chore

[sturdy glen]

It was so boring I don't even remember most of the level

[neon gust]

Starvation would like to have a word with you

[wary linden]

the level thjat plays itself

[sturdy glen]

Is that r5c3 or different level

[neon gust]

Cfoam mine cfoam mine cfoam mine cfoam mine

[sturdy glen]

I don't remember names

[neon gust]

Double door hit, cfoam mine cfoam min

Fucking A

Rant over

[weary mesa]

Starve me of fun gameplay

[winged turtle]

mine tiles

1. alarm (fog)
2. triple uplink
3. blood door
   _ Secondary_

shadow Alarm (lights out)
big boi zone
Shadow + Big boi alarm
shadow zone

4. blood door
5. full team alarm (fog)
6. Triple uplink
7. triple scout

idk how, but with all of those thing i know in order, it feels like nothing happens the whole time

[sturdy glen]

Shadows in secondary and too much fog

[neon gust]

R5c1 needs an different side objective on remake

[sturdy glen]

All I remember

[winged turtle]

just long ig

[sturdy glen]

I was also bad at the game so I played way too slow

[neon gust]

Like who the fuck tought it was a good idea to have 2 uplink objective in the same level

[hardy grotto]

me :)

[sturdy glen]

True

[weary mesa]

what was 6 or 7 for first two

then 10

Permacheese heaven or circle kite

[sturdy glen]

Uplink without 2 terminals kinda mid

[hardy grotto]

i remember just permafoaming the door for the extreme one

i like that mission tho mostly

[wary linden]

i remember having too much ammo so we just shot everything

[past mesa]

Sorry be right back gotta get rid of the 2 99 code uplinks in my level

[hardy grotto]

we need a 99 code uplink in r8

[winged turtle]

and getting a code wrong undoes the previous correct one too

[neon gust]

Be a funny guy a bring provision and just pull all the respawn rooms multiple tines for all the uplinks and shoot the shit out of everything

[wary linden]

why need provision

[hardy grotto]

the fun part was having both respawn rooms up on extract

[wary linden]

30 uses of ammo on that map already

[neon gust]

Pulling respawn multiple times

This is so sad can we get reactors on floodways?

[wary linden]

please no

it's gonna take them ages to arrive to the defenders

[winged turtle]

1st wave in transit when the second reactor alarms starts

[neon gust]

Lets not even talk how we can funnel some of the tiles and make them tske even longer

Homeboys are gonna get lost

Or they will just made a bridge tile

[wary linden]

already one

they used it in r5c1

[neon gust]

Gotta make an even cooler one

[weary mesa]

Floodway spawns should just spawn one room away

[neon gust]

You can tell they lesrn that already in r7

Fucking 4 million miles away of they dont do that

Or an artificially increased alarm

[wary linden]

can'T do that. wesley will get mad cause enemies will have an RNG chance of spawning less then 1 meter of your room 🙂

remember rng bad guys

ok now i drop this cause this behavior was to show how stupid it is to call out someone random like that . 🙂

[neon gust]

Wesley its just like me my man, goofy man doing goofy shit

Playing a goofy game

[winged turtle]

life goals

[civic wave]

99 code uplink that requires 2 terminals, splits the defenders and gives them a tank each (the tank respawns if it gets killed)

the uplink should take so long that all the players are dying of old age

[weary mesa]

Wesley do like making me mad, he funny

[civic wave]

if you wanted, you could make the tanks immortals and also send a big charger every once in a while

[winged turtle]

the only enemies on the whole map are 3 pablos. so 3 people have to baby sit them while one person solos the duo uplink

[weary mesa]

3 immortals is the same as one

One guy does it

[winged turtle]

damn

[waxen jetty]

do u guys think wesley will win r4e1 by shooter capping

[hardy grotto]

maybe

Give him a few years and he might

[sudden skiff]

the sleepers are also giants/hybrids, or are too close to avoid being alerted

[tardy ingot]

what levels you in? R7C3?

[sudden skiff]

what is good level to practice stealth killing solo?

[latent obsidian]

The starts of r1d1, r2c1, r7c1 and r7d1 all could work, stealth killing is quite vague though

R7d1 especially has some nice enemy variety to stealth clear without having to do an alarm first

The others have reasonably good sleeper density near the starts (maybe not r2c1 as much)

[spark wolf]

BEEN TRYING FOR 3 YEARS

my familygonna have to celebrate christmlas without me once again

the grind nev er stop

[torpid ermine]

whats a good level to get aggressive artifacts?

[past mesa]

I will let your family go once you solo r7e1 without getting any cheese

It is called incentive

[spark wolf]

it was clearly balanced around door bug

why else did they put the door there

????

[lunar rain]

Does the sea foam portion booster increase sea foam from the launcher or everything ?

[topaz anvil]

You get more foam from the same unit used is the best way i can understand it, I'm probably wrong

[past mesa]

If you have c from booster you can charge more and use less %

You don’t produce more your charge is just more efficient

[lunar rain]

So like 1 is now worth 1.2 kinda thing

[past mesa]

More like 6 blobs is worth 3% instead of 5%

[sudden skiff]

anywhere I can see maps for rundowns? specifically R2C2

[spark wolf]

how will this affect the economy

[spark wolf]

steam guides

[lunar rain]

blob economy crashes

[spark wolf]

elon musk interview

[wintry kayak]

it’s big trust me

I ran +130-140% of foam portion and 90 percent on the launcher got us enough to cfoam under a ladder enough to freeze a full surge alarm for all four scans

it’s absolutely broken if you ask me

not as broken as SuPpLy EfFiCiEnCy tho

[slow stone]

are there certain maps that are better for certain boosters?

to get them

[dry pumice]

Depends on what you're asking precisely.

Getting specific boosters? No.

Just finding lots of artifacts? Yeah, some maps are better than others.

Particularly those that have secondary objectives. Secondary rooms tend to have notably higher counts of artifacts.

So replaying A-B tier missions with secondary objectives is the most optimal way to grind some.

[slow stone]

yes, I mean artifacts. Do you know if the pools for artifacts are random or in some maps there are more of certain type?

[dry pumice]

I think they are random. Never noticed any particular type patterns in any map.

[sudden skiff]

any lists of call outs/phrases that people use to communicate more quickly and efficiently?

[tardy ingot]

uhhh

you mean gtfo lingo?

[floral acorn]

heh.. "enemy from there"

"hybe" .. "fucked up sorry" (scout)

[topaz anvil]

"whoops"

Whoops is the only one that matters tbh

[latent obsidian]

"charging, I'll hit first" for tag teaming a giant

[fierce nebula]

"I'm coming I'm coming" followed by moans

[dry pumice]

Can't really think of anything worthy. People just talk. Don't know if enemy names count.

[topaz anvil]

"sorry guys I took the wrong fog turbine" (be at extract when you say this)

[latent obsidian]

"the baby is still at spawn??"

[topaz anvil]

R2e1 but you forget to bring the neonate

[slow stone]

how many hits are needed to kill normal giants with hammers? usually its 1 hit in head, back and leg when I try soloing, but today I only needed to hit head and back once on some of them

or is it usually 2 hits and I'm just bad

[neon gust]

3

[floral acorn]

for duo its usually 2 back and 40-60% back, ded (both players) .. so 3 like the sensei said

... 1 head 1 back for first hit ofc

[lost flame]

You can reliably do it in 2 with a spear

But that's a lot of melee investment for something a bit too niche

[slow stone]

Yeah spear isn't for me

[fierce nebula]

spear is usable for giant heavy maps?

interesting

[dry pumice]

Spear is the comfy one

Shift button is overrated anyway

[silver fable]

the mythical double-occi duo is the closest I can think of

i.e. both players land an occi hit on the giant at the same instant

I've had it happen only once

[ember mirage]

So I haven't bought the game yet but I heard about this discord and wanted to ask: Is this game going to be hard to get the hang of if I only play it occasionally?

[lunar rain]

I wouldn’t say the main concepts are terribly difficult, although there are some concepts that are difficult to get the hang of

[ember mirage]

I wasn't sure if it was more marketing with what I read about the difficulty curve

[lunar rain]

Simple answer I don’t think it would be difficult

[latent obsidian]

Its a hard game but the controls are simple, so I wouldn't say it is like that more than any other game you play infrequently. I wouldn't say there is much muscle memory you need to retain for example

[ember mirage]

Cool. I had the impression it was more like tarkov

I suck at that if I stop playing for a while

[silver fable]

knowledge is the main beginner barrier

[lunar rain]

I think gtfo is more of a confidence game on what you feel comfortable with

[winged turtle]

and the middle barrier as well i think, because knowing when to do it is the next barrier

when to run, when to crouch in fire fights, when to reload

i suspect you will only get rusty with the high tier skills if you tale a long break

[ember mirage]

Sounds like something I'd enjoy.

Should I find games through this discord or is the matchmaking any good?

[latent obsidian]

Definitely through this discord

[slow stone]

discord

[winged turtle]

mm is poorly designed for the layout of rundown(s) + its underpopulated + its over populated with trolls

[ember mirage]

Sweet. Downloading it now

[ember mirage]

I just assumed it would be a mess if people don't cooperate

My friend convinced me to get marauders instead and then he kept running off and abandoning me. 0/10.

[latent obsidian]

Try and avoid players that do that as a beginner

There are certainly going to be some of them around

The best experience you'll get imo is playing with other people that are new to the game

[winged turtle]

well randos are generally trying their best, thats a relatively small issue

[winged turtle]

getting left in the dust is a much more relevant issue you would run into

[ember mirage]

Makes sense

So once I got the hang of the game it would be less of an issue

[latent obsidian]

Yea

There is also the option of playing with someone willing to show you the ropes which might fast track your learning, but that might not be for everyone

I'm making it sound like a college course or something xD

[wooden osprey]

is this about the full speed thing that one time?

[ember mirage]

I'm pretty stoned right now but I can definitely get the hang of cooperative stuff pretty quickly. I used to love R6: siege before it kind of jumped the shark

lol

So should i just throw out an invite on a certain chat orrrr?

Am i overcomplicating this

[slow stone]

R2 C2 would be kinda akward as a new guy if you were to be left alone

[latent obsidian]

You should play EVAL first, at the top of the rundown screen, its a tutorial

[ember mirage]

heard that.

It just finished downloading

big ass game

[latent obsidian]

but after that there are instructions here for matchmaking #how-to-matchmake

[silver fable]

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[ember mirage]

or maybe my internet is slow for some reaason

[latent obsidian]

If noone is running an A level you could make your own posting

[ember mirage]

oh

I thought lfg meant something else

Haha

[latent obsidian]

lets fucking gooooo!!

[winged turtle]

no no no, i was teaching someone basic mechanics of the game on R1B1 and someone left and solo'd the whole mission and didn't give me time or sleeper to show off anything lol

[wooden osprey]

i see

sad

but that does happen sometimes

i hated those runs cause i was usually the one teaching

[latent obsidian]

Down them until you are ready to progress the level again

[wooden osprey]

thats what i did

or asked them nicely to leave out at least 3 enemies

for the new guy

[winged turtle]

i don't have trolls in my lfg matches, and 95% vets and speed-runners are super chill in A/B levels when i am in full tutorial mode

but occasionally, a wordless hero just carries us

and the kids get to C1 and don't know how the game works lol

[neon gust]

Maybe thats why the skill ceiling its going down, your the one teaching people to play the game

[icy cave]

let me bring him with me

[latent obsidian]

up to your old tricks again are you?

[winged turtle]

he can consent when he is sober

[wooden osprey]

hmmmmmmm if what your saying is true quite the opposite i stopped teaching in pubs back in R4 so perhaps me not teaching is the reason

🤔

[winged turtle]

[ember mirage]

there is so much happening on that menu startup my lord

[icy cave]

but but I just want him for a e1 run

[wooden osprey]

No.

[latent obsidian]

you need a bit of foreplay before going right to E1

[icy cave]

if he is up for it you can't stop me

[icy cave]

no the point is fresh

[wooden osprey]

i can and i will

[winged turtle]

and high

[ember mirage]

I can do it, boss

[latent obsidian]

oh noooooooooo

[ember mirage]

I'm the small country boy moving to the big city

[winged turtle]

let him finish the flippin tutorial my god DJ

[latent obsidian]

Another victim into the clutches of the child catcher

[ember mirage]

I'm basically an anime protaganist

[ember mirage]

👀

I'll make some coffee

[icy cave]

ok only tutorial

then he is mine

[winged turtle]

you got it, you got to see the magic system first, then foght the endgame boss of the series

NO

do A1 with him

so he has at least heard of stealth

[latent obsidian]

More meat for the speedrunner factory

[ember mirage]

Haha

[winged turtle]

R7A1 specifically por favor

[ember mirage]

I have no idea what is going on

[icy cave]

he only has to stick to us

[ember mirage]

I wanna shoot things and do cyberpunk stuff

[wooden osprey]

this is true teacher mode

[latent obsidian]

This is the movie scene with the angel on one shoulder and the devil on the other

[icy cave]

imagine if he manages

[winged turtle]

let him see the first step THEN the last step otherwise the deep end of the pool has no context mon frair

[icy cave]

i've been looking for fresh fresh tho 😦

[latent obsidian]

a rare white lily unstained by blood

[winged turtle]

god that sounds so gross
Too Bad!!

let him actually have a good footing before you play your game and toss him aside!!

[ember mirage]

It's okay i play xcom

im tacticool

[latent obsidian]

Well we tried, good luck soldier

bona petite!

[junior wren]

Ive got a quick question for those who beat R2C1, how long did it take y’all? I just want something to compare to to see how me and my friend did.

[icy cave]

I am not tossing anyone

[icy cave]

30 min

[latent obsidian]

something like 45 minutes with 3 people

[wooden osprey]

depends are you new player or not

if you are new 1 hour or 1hour+

[winged turtle]

uhhh my intermediate team and me did like, 45-55?

[icy cave]

but could have been way faster

[junior wren]

I’m somewhat new, haven’t played since rundown 4 and even then I didn’t have many hours

[wooden osprey]

prop 50 min or 1 hour

without dying

like without a wipe

[ember mirage]

how long is a typical mission?

[junior wren]

It took me and my friend 2 hours and 3 tries

[winged turtle]

but learning the mission will add discussion time and planning time so expect upward of an hour

[junior wren]

204 kept killing us

[winged turtle]

30 mins - 1.5 hours

depending on level/skill/planning

[latent obsidian]

Short missions can be 10-25 minutes, longer ones can take up to an hour and a half. This is for experienced players though, for beginners it could take up to 3 times as long in either case

[winged turtle]

hard levels with multiple wipes can take an afternoon to get the clear

[neon gust]

"It depends"- the answer your looking for

[winged turtle]

The range is 5 minutes to 3 hours.

[icy cave]

don't go too far

[latent obsidian]

I feel like walt screaming at hank from the back of the car

Watching this occur

[winged turtle]

if he gets an A1 clear first, DJ is actually right in that it is constructive

[tardy ingot]

tztztz. its been 2:34 for a while now to 10 hours

[winged turtle]

but going there first is exactly like this

[winged turtle]

after 3 hours you all need to turn the game off and go have a meal

*technically there have been clears with timers in the 28 hour range.

but we don't talk about those

[ember mirage]

i did the training

Now i am a pro

[winged turtle]

hell ya

[icy cave]

you see his ready

[ember mirage]

lemme get that coffee B)

[wary linden]

just 99.5% left too learn

[winged turtle]

long inhale
_ long exhale_

[icy cave]

why you get upset 😦

[winged turtle]

fr fr R7A1 first

[icy cave]

Y tho

[winged turtle]

basic mechanics, then pace of the game

if you do E first, you know you have to be going fast, but you don't actually onow how

[wooden osprey]

Dj do you want me to drag wheat to gtfo hell?

i think he can stay busy in there

for a while

[icy cave]

drag him away. he is gatekeeping new players from me 😦

[wooden osprey]

(:

as soon as you said yes he stopped typing

your welcome?

[icy cave]

🤣

he gon DM him

its alright

I'll grab another innocent

[winged turtle]

i don't slide into peoples dms

[icy cave]

when he is sleeping burger time

[winged turtle]

they slide into mine

[wooden osprey]

hooooooooooooo

is it for telling you how bad you are at the game?

[ember mirage]

@icy cave Are you gonna be my GTFO dad?

[icy cave]

damn why you guys agressive

[winged turtle]

no!

[icy cave]

well wheat has dibs on you

[ember mirage]

Can't we all just get along?

[icy cave]

so on to A1 you go

[ember mirage]

Then there's no alimony

[winged turtle]

they just are polite and don't tell me i am bad and how to get better 😭

[wooden osprey]

noice

[winged turtle]

no no

no dibs

[wooden osprey]

anyway wheat DJ how about both of you take him

ay?

seems like a good idea

[winged turtle]

based

[wooden osprey]

a teacher and a good player one teaches tips and one teaches basics

[ember mirage]

😵‍💫

[wooden osprey]

best of both worlds

[winged turtle]

but i am at work, so its DJ's ball game

[ember mirage]

WOO!

[icy cave]

I have to cook now.

[wooden osprey]

HAHAHAHAH

at the end no one got him

[winged turtle]

[ember mirage]

I'm reheating fried seafood because i live life on the edge

and i have an air fryer

[wooden osprey]

alright good luck all of you

[icy cave]

you really want to die I guess

[winged turtle]

risk it for the biscuit

[icy cave]

depends

I might be coming back around 20.30

[ember mirage]

o well See you peeps at some undertermined future time

[latent obsidian]

This is low key savage xD

Ending is rey takes them to gtfo hell

[icy cave]

rey is throwing more shade than my dad when he hung himself

[wooden osprey]

AYOOOOO

[wooden osprey]

(: they all struggle but they come around some day

[icy cave]

round 20.30 I might be back

you can start by joining R1A1 or something

[winged turtle]

low-key???

[wooden osprey]

AHEM AHEM

TIME ZONE PLEASE

[icy cave]

ok in 1 hour and 50 min

[latent obsidian]

Le time zone francais

[wooden osprey]

gj

[icy cave]

le time zone no shank

[latent obsidian]

If it was an extra hour I might have popped in

[icy cave]

oooooh

I don't mind waiting till 21.30

2 hrs and 50 min (for rey)

[latent obsidian]

I'm not fussed, I could message someone when I'm around and see if things join up nice

But I wouldn't wait on my acccount

[icy cave]

alright enjoy your cup of tea in the meantime

[latent obsidian]

Playing sports ball mate

[winged turtle]

noice

[icy cave]

but with a cup of tea right ?

[latent obsidian]

Obviously

[icy cave]

feeewwwwww

was scared for a moment

[ember mirage]

wait what time zone are you in

[wooden osprey]

@ember mirage

i already got it for you

[ember mirage]

Oh lol I skimmed

[wooden osprey]

no mans left behind!

[ember mirage]

gracias

[winged turtle]

wbu? Euro time?

[ember mirage]

nah

US central

[winged turtle]

I am in Burgerland

US mointain

[ember mirage]

Jk i live on the seafloor and eat crustaceans

[wooden osprey]

ok question

[winged turtle]

based

[icy cave]

I'm coming next week to arizona

[wooden osprey]

was the shark that was eating the global network cable your friend?

[winged turtle]

no way

[ember mirage]

We had a bit of a falling out after he got landpilled

[icy cave]

I'll be howdy partner and yeehawing all the time

[wooden osprey]

i see i see

[winged turtle]

get mexican food from a neighborhood that feels dangerous (it isn't btw) and see the grande canyon

the only other thing we got is gorgeous camping spota

[ember mirage]

wait

so does the difficulty scale with each area?

Like is R1 the intended starting point?

[icy cave]

R1 is the starting point yes

difficulty scales per tier. rundowns vary in difficulty from each other randomly

[winged turtle]

"intended"

[icy cave]

like R2 is harder than R1 but R3 is easier than R2

[winged turtle]

R1 is easier than R2 is easier than R7

[icy cave]

that yes

later on tho ....

crazy curves xD

[ember mirage]

aight imma give it a whirl

[icy cave]

But whatever rundown you play, the deeper you go the harder it gets

[ember mirage]

Got me some CAFFEINE

[icy cave]

enjoy R1A1 and such. if you still here and IF I come back, we'll do R7E1 (we prolly won't complete tho

[latent obsidian]

R7E1?? You better carry me too!

[icy cave]

you've done it before

you know what happens

[winged turtle]

bhahah not the goal for today

[latent obsidian]

Maybe, maybe not

[icy cave]

wait you haven't ?

[latent obsidian]

No yeah I have a couple times

[wooden osprey]

i too would like to get carried

[latent obsidian]

But I wanna get the 4th code if we do it

[wooden osprey]

but not because i dont have a clear but because i want to see the funny immortal man

[icy cave]

sure then we can blame you

last time I f'd up on code 4 👉 👈

[topaz anvil]

Dude the last code on R7E1 is very wacky

the first is tight, but the last is poopy

[fierce nebula]

yeah when failing it's the last code that's the most time crunched

but I don't fail

[spark wolf]

it takes 2m

and u get like 8m

7m if the final waves are trolling

[topaz anvil]

Usually they are

[ember mirage]

Wowie

I did not die sometimes

top tier right here

[ember mirage]

sp00ky

7 is basically the 13 of single digit numbers

[icy cave]

You free?

[ember mirage]

Dobby is a free elf

I havent completed R1 yet tho

[icy cave]

I finish my R3 run in that case

[ember mirage]

I did the first 2 or 3

[icy cave]

If you want to finish it .. won't be a problem 😏

[ember mirage]

Thank you father

or mother

[icy cave]

Father

[winged turtle]

ah, if those are the roles,

i guess i have to be

divorced

[icy cave]

chann 31

[red fossil]

hey all, i am in r7c2 on the first checkpoint (2/6 cells) and i need 2 more to progress. it looks like there arent any more cells in the zones i have unlocked. has anyone encountered this problem?

[winged turtle]

once you put in enough cells, the next zone unlocks, there are more if you go North. that direction just unlocked

[winged turtle]

@red fossil

[red fossil]

i just cleared north. the cells are in zone 153, which is locked behind a ventilation sequence in 154. 154 requires 4 cells to open

[winged turtle]

hmmm have you found the termnial i 152?

[red fossil]

there doesn't appear to be one. mission objective says it's in 154.

[winged turtle]

so to get cells 3 & 4 you need to do another alarm in the northmost zone
next to the overload door is a terminal with the command to start the alarm that unlocks the doors with cells 3, 4 in it

[red fossil]

yeah i found it, it was hidden in a little booth

[winged turtle]

yeee

[red fossil]

woooops

[winged turtle]

it happens! same dealio with cells 5&6 when you go East btw

[red fossil]

lol got it

thanks for the help

[winged turtle]

np!

[noble cape]

what are the differences between the two machine guns?

[topaz anvil]

One goes pew pew, the other goes dundundundundun

[winged turtle]

fire

iirc

[storm thunder]

can i get some help on r2e1

[winged turtle]

yes

[storm thunder]

look for the lfg

dm ed

[winged turtle]

oh not today mon frair mb

[storm thunder]

bruh

[minor fractal]

Fire-rate, accuracy, and damage.

Veruta is better for raw DPS, Arbalist is better for carefully picking off targets.

They're both very capable at both, just each is slightly more specialized in one direction or another.

[willow dragon]

to put it simply, one is brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt and the other is bangbangbangbangbangbangbang

[dusky gorge]

is there anyone who is able to give me a brief explanation on how to play the game (effectively)? i know the basics like how to do the objectives, using the terminals and stuff but i seem to always be running out of ammo/health and idek if im using the right guns (tips and tricks too?)

also idk if i have grasped the concept on how to kill a lot of the enemies effectively since somehow i always end up loosing more health than even the bots

[past mesa]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I8zpdZNvoI&t=519s

[dusky gorge]

tysmm!

[red fossil]

if you start a seconadry objective, do you have to finish it? i kinda just want to scavenge

[past mesa]

depends on the objective

[dusky gorge]

oh wow the video is extremely helpful, i didnt even think about rerouting enemies with the doors, thank you!

[past mesa]

soloing will teach you to get better

gl

[dusky gorge]

do you recommend learning by soloing completely, or should i start with bot fillers?

[past mesa]

depends on you i would just do r7a1

probs the ez solo

[dusky gorge]

okay thanks!

[craggy pier]

what

[craggy pier]

Just learn the game by playing pubs and asking questions :3

Solo’ing is snoooozeeee and boooooooooring

You’ll make friends if u pub #EZDUB

[sudden skiff]

anyone know how to elminate the smearing/bleeding at the edges of your screen?
I'm exclusive fullscreen, 3440x1440p, FOV 72(120)

[spark lantern]

what weapons would most ppl recommend against surge alarms?

[sturdy glen]

combat shotgun, hel shotgun, machinegun

[spark lantern]

thank also for r2e1, how do u normally handle the first part? stall as long as possible with cfoam and shotguns? or do 1st scan while stalling then kite enemies into another room and run back? i guess just tips on the first part, cause it doesn't seem like u can sit in the center without feeling overrun i guess unless u bring specific loadouts

[vital sierra]

put sentry near you for extra fire power everytime you do scan

and when you finished scan, pull back into some corner to defend until the next scan appear

[spark lantern]

only issue with that is so first part is surge alarm so strikers respawn after dying and scans are all in center in fog close range, with like two main pathways leading down small hole, plus their's 3 different sentries so i get what ur saying but it doesn't explain much to me since that knowledge applies to basically most other scan waves.

[vital sierra]

ye, but this scan focus on teamwork

so if your team didn't shoot much, you will get overwhelm

[sturdy glen]

having good wave clear/stagger weapons makes it a lot easier

[spark lantern]

usually except i think surge strikers are unaffected by stagger

[vital sierra]

that's all the tip we can give since, that's the only way to do other than kiting

which will cause you more time to do

[sturdy glen]

kiting wont really help you later anyways so its better to learn how to do surges 'normally' now

[spark lantern]

ahh okay, thamk so basically same as normal waves just got to find the right setup

[lunar rain]

That’s how I learned, not a fun way to learn but a really good way to learn

[neon gust]

Shoot everything

You just need to be comfortable with enemies infront of you

Even if you get 1 or 2 hit

[silver fable]

dissenting from rayalot a little: while they're both very strong against smalls, veruta is clearly much better into bigs, with a much larger amount of damage per mag and comparable reload speed

veruta is OP, whereas probably the worst I could say about arbalist is that it gets too much ammo

[fierce nebula]

maybe Arbalist is OP because it has too much ammo

[sudden skiff]

why do my boosters sometimes grey out on the bottom of my HUD?

[desert falcon]

If they are greyed out that means their condition to activate isn't met.
For example when you have booster that requires you to have more than 50% hp, it will tun grey and be inactive if you drop below 50% hp.

[fierce nebula]

^^^

or something like you need to close to a mutant for a damage increase

[brittle mural]

I enjoy that "close to enemy" condition only fully benefits you when you run a shotgun

[wooden osprey]

double shotgun for life

[hazy oak]

if you decide to drop cfoam the ground, is it better to spread it around or just make a gigantic bubble on a very tight choke like stairs.

[silver fable]

hm, I consider "gets too much mileage out of a refill" to be a lesser sin for a special to commit than things like "has grossly outsized impact on a fight," or "excels in roles well outside its lane," or "simultaneously overshadows multiple other specials"

[wooden osprey]

speard

[silver fable]

veruta also kinda gets too much ammo, though that's kinda more of a side-effect of the damage buff

[hazy oak]

does the ammo injected into one bubble just not translate to how many sleepers can freeze?

[silver fable]

it does

[hazy oak]

pathing is just too erratic, huh?

[silver fable]

I think khepri has a very in-depth video on how foam works

[wooden osprey]

yes

[silver fable]

yeah I'd spread foam just because you don't want enemies to happen to path past a big blob of foam

[hazy oak]

Even on something extremely tight like a ladder or stairwell?

[silver fable]

don't have to spread it all that much if it's on a narrow choke

[hazy oak]

Ah okay.

[silver fable]

on a ladder you're probably best off just applying it one blob at a time

[hazy oak]

So it's just about casting a net.

Okay.

[fierce nebula]

makes sense

[silver fable]

because if you charge a shot it'll go all over the place, and really you want to get as much foam actually on the ladder as possible

[fierce nebula]

a coom net

[tardy ingot]

not a "net". he meant not doing fully charges

you want at minimum 2 blobs on each other since otherwise it will not freeze a striker

in a choke like a ladder, small door or stair case. just spam a big mass

doing a wide spread accomplishes little

then again cfoam rly isnt worth for ground, so unless you need it somewhere else, maybe take smth else

[gentle tendon]

Other than big bubbles on ladders or C-Foam nades putting cfoam on anything other than a closed door is a waste of ressources.
In R7D1 i've had great success tossing a cfoam nade on the ground to stop a charger assault though.
Never bring C Foam into a mission blind, it's just too situational.

[echo cedar]

how can i decrease my queue times

[wooden osprey]

in MM you cant

in discord

aka lfg

you cant really either

[icy cave]

No but you will find games faster

[icy cave]

Just don't use ingame MM. LFG channels here is the go to

[vital sierra]

this elitist right here^

he's the reason why nobody use MM

[fierce nebula]

idk sounds elitist to point that out

[tardy ingot]

it has been his plan all along

[icy cave]

Kinda elitist from you m8.

[vital sierra]

what do you mean me

we are all elitist

[icy cave]

I'm not 😭

[latent obsidian]

Calling someone not elitist is a bit elitist

[thorny creek]

We are all elitists in the eyes of the average new player on Steam Forums

[tardy ingot]

well… yeah

[icy cave]

Who am I kidding. I get crucified daily on steam forums

[icy cave]

exactly

[tardy ingot]

I actually got someone to message me, regarding them wanting to start speedrunning.
And appearantly someone told them that theyd have to send me an a1 solo run 😐

[vital sierra]

your name are now bound to "Elitist"

[tardy ingot]

i am now the leader of the speedrun mafia

appearantly

[tardy ingot]

i mean multiple times a day quite often

[thorny creek]

The Speedrun Clan

[icy cave]

Did you tell them that the speedrun community is on the discord? 😂😂😂

Gatekeeping elitist Inc.

[latent obsidian]

Does it bring a tear to your eye when you see lfg posts saying "No speedrunners!!"? 😦

[tardy ingot]

i mean we talked and it was clear that they wanted to speedrun with the people i run with (and me). Since we are the most active rn

[latent obsidian]

Speedrunners a persecuted breed smh

[tardy ingot]

I dont check lfg that often

But id unironically just join

ping me when you see one

then join with me

[latent obsidian]

Oh I'm not a GTFO speedrunner, I just do levels fast for fun sometimes

[icy cave]

At least you got one over to the discord. Some just ....... refuse

[latent obsidian]

Would be interested in learning some strats for duo speedruns maybe tho

👀

[tardy ingot]

Well
1st you got runs on speedrun.com
2nd i meant joining with me cuz im an active one

[latent obsidian]

Yeah but they're like joke runs compared to what most people do xD

[tardy ingot]

i actually got nearly 10 people to join the community over the last month

[icy cave]

I did have a laugh at the dude calling Calle a fascist tho 😂 @tardy ingot

[tardy ingot]

WHAT
Oh wait. I think i know what you mean

[latent obsidian]

someone noticed me though 😊

[icy cave]

Where?

[tardy ingot]

id argue that „bad“ times. Arent actually bad. Its just not as optimized yet

Everyone starts somewhere and there will always be meh times, thats how a community and leaderboard gets build

like theres a 4:50 on Training

[tardy ingot]

speedrun community

[tardy ingot]

[icy cave]

Yeah but those don't come from steam forums

[latent obsidian]

I do feel sometimes like just having a casual go with my mates to put a time out on levels where there is no activity. Sort of for the funny first place but also so that it might cause people to compete with it

[tardy ingot]

If you want strats im always down to talk. Any level any time

[tardy ingot]

Thats actually how i started

we did some runs and then were like „we can improve this lets go“

[icy cave]

I need strat for speedrunning R3A1😏

[tardy ingot]

f you ;-;

when r3 drops

then

[icy cave]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[latent obsidian]

bad man Dj

[icy cave]

You said: ANY level

[tardy ingot]

well… yeah
I dont think i could get anyone but calle to join speedruns from the forums

[icy cave]

Bro I'm the nicest player on discord 😔

[wooden osprey]

can i get redemption speedrun strats?

[latent obsidian]

Like I watched your logs guide, is there a link to the server with those resources so you can put ids to locations? @tardy ingot

[tardy ingot]

i mean any available. You arent allowed to post r3 runs rn anyway

[tardy ingot]

i can add you to the server

[latent obsidian]

That would be great

[icy cave]

I know but it was an easy stab at you 😅

[tardy ingot]

i didnt publicly post it cuz people can always ask me for specific maps and its work in progress for a lot

So id rather know the people a bit usually

[tardy ingot]

EXPOSED. DjDNA USING THE KNIFE

[latent obsidian]

British expat DjDNA!!

[icy cave]

Would rather die. Thank you

[icy cave]

Wait what. what is happening

[latent obsidian]

Cheers for the link @tardy ingot

[tardy ingot]

but yeah

my biggest goal currently is to get people to be interested in trying speedruns/speedrunning and then making them comfortable in uploading times even if they arent the best

[stuck orchid]

Hey eva could you invite me as well? Had been trying to make my own map by just dropping dozens of times into a single level myself LMAO

[latent obsidian]

your knife habit has belied your true nature

one of us

[tardy ingot]

We are so close to being finished with r2c2 id mapping

only missing 118

but that should be done today or tmrw

[latent obsidian]

someone has to bother reviewing and verifying them though right

[tardy ingot]

then well get to run it below 8 min hopefully

[icy cave]

I have a time of 23 min on Training. But.... it is TRUE solo

[latent obsidian]

I feel a bit like a dick making someone do that for my slow ass time xD

[tardy ingot]

im a mod

i like doing it

voidspace is one

the speedrun mods usually enjoy having more runs to check as it means having a more active community

[vital sierra]

people should start playing something else other than hammer

[latent obsidian]

Well maybe I'll have a go at some

[tardy ingot]

unless you upload a 3 hour a1 run we wont say much negatively

[vital sierra]

join the bat gang

[latent obsidian]

Oh... stops uploading youtube vid

[lofty mist]

Devs should start giving us incentive to use weapons other than hammer

[icy cave]

you had only bad takes this whole morning

[vital sierra]

they can nerf hammer

[tardy ingot]

unironicall. If anyone uploads a 1 hour long training run. Id verify it if its to the rules

[vital sierra]

which everyone will riot

[latent obsidian]

bat is the real speedrunner weapon

maybe

[lofty mist]

If they nerf hammer I will commit die

[vital sierra]

see

[icy cave]

Bruv you sure?

[tardy ingot]

but yeah

even stuff that isnt „impressive“ by speedrun standards (like a 15 min r7a1 solo) is still quicker than most people can do it

and id gladly verify

[stuck orchid]

RIP Eva missed what I said

[tardy ingot]

if its 1

the moment i see 2 i reject :>

That way i always gain

[icy cave]

Like you don't know what you are saying right now. some people on this discord are ....

[tardy ingot]

I did @stuck orchid ?

i invited you (unless phone discord borked)

[stuck orchid]

Ye I don’t see an invite rn

[tardy ingot]

wack

[stuck orchid]

OH WAIT

[tardy ingot]

it shows me you got one

[stuck orchid]

It’s because it’s a message request lmao

[lofty mist]

Fix spear by increasing overall damage with uncharged shots and precision shots. Fix bat by making stagger more consistent and making scout kills more consistent. Fix knife by making scout kills more consistent, fix hit box to not be fucking all over the place. Then the other weapons are worth using.

[vital sierra]

discord has the message request thing

[stuck orchid]

Dum discord

Tyvm

[vital sierra]

someone did do a test, and it was hitscan on melee

[tardy ingot]

cant make scout kills more consistent unless you make it front headshot tho?

[vital sierra]

so... skill issue if you miss?

[stuck orchid]

Also, do you guys usually use that server to organize runs for duo/trio/squads?

[tardy ingot]

also hitboxes being like they are is a skill thing to learn

not an issue lol

[tardy ingot]

yesnt

i mean i just ask when people wanna run

[vital sierra]

spear has more precision damage

also knife too

[tardy ingot]

and thats how i appearantly got to be the head of the speedrun mafia

[vital sierra]

hammer is just braindead to use

it has all of them in 1 melee weapon

a big mac of a weapon

[tardy ingot]

its only issue is stamina if you rly wanna push it

[vital sierra]

hammer need longer charge and use more stamina to justify it stat

[tardy ingot]

otherwise its only disadvantages are

Vs knife, clear speed vs smalls
Vs bat, 1 tap smash locks, tap dmg to doors
Vs spear, range

[stuck orchid]

Ah alrighty, I’m down for runs sometime after next week if you’re open to me joining

[vital sierra]

spear can pen

[tardy ingot]

I mean just check out things or ask yourself

[vital sierra]

[tardy ingot]

well it „can“

Also alpha
When training speedrun?

[vital sierra]

no

speedrun stress me out

i also have 11 video to edit

[hardy grotto]

has anyone gotten a good speedrun time for r2e1 yet

[tardy ingot]

29 min

but got rejected due to not shoowing no boosters

[hardy grotto]

Aight

[tardy ingot]

I mean we couldve put it into lawless

But lawless r2e1 is gonna be doorbugging for first surge and having it spawn capped

which makes the whole thing… easy

Also bioscan speed boosters

[craggy pier]

Is there a Russian community here?

[latent obsidian]

#hc-europe message

[vital sierra]

is there any objective in the game that let us bypassing a firewall or some kind?

[tardy ingot]

you mean lore wise?

wouldnt r7d2 be kinda that?

[tardy ingot]

[craggy pier]

Thx🫶

[vital sierra]

don't see anything on wiki

hmmmm

[latent obsidian]

Well the objective text for R7D2 is different from what actually happens?

[tardy ingot]

Yea

[fierce nebula]

the devs gaslighting the players

[tardy ingot]

arent schaeffer and hendrickson not talking about that in r7d1. Like they need a specific terminal

to bypass the wardens whatever

[latent obsidian]

need to access the mainframe directly I think

[vital sierra]

they did

henrikson said something about break

and schaefer thought about Brake

[gentle tendon]

R7D2 objective is installing bonzibuddy on the warden, leading to E1

[vital sierra]

r7d2 objective is jamming your memory stick into warden

[tight pendant]

🥵

[light nebula]

is booster progress shared across missions? for example, if i have 0.70 aggressive progress on d1 if i move on to d2 will i still have 0.70 in that mission?

[latent obsidian]

yes

[light nebula]

okay thx

[sudden skiff]

is there a list of all terminal items and their names?

[winged turtle]

it will change mission to mission
but you can find out as soon as you find your first terminal and enter command
"List Terminal"
you can list every item in the level with "List" and narrow down your search from there, by zone or item name

then you can query them from there

[wooden osprey]

better tip

you should only list few items

objectives-cells-keycards

that way you dont have to search through all of the stuff

you can also list terminals

you just have to bring some kind of indication after list

like list key

or list cell or perhaps list terminal

than you should query those items so you know where to go for them

[winged turtle]

honestly, i have been going into levels of R2 blind with the squad, and the first thing i do is List Key and the Query each one

[wooden osprey]

pro strats

[winged turtle]

i should should probably do that for a list of items like cells, turbines, ect

[wooden osprey]

also its nice to see more quartermasters

[winged turtle]

i am workin on it!

[wooden osprey]

i mean if you want to be that go for it

im not

so i never do it

i let others do it or until it is needed

yes i do say do it

but that does not mean i do it myself

[winged turtle]

tryna be the jack of all in the group

[wooden osprey]

👍

[gentle oracle]

sometimes me and my group when going into levels with optional objectives we would try listing every objective type to see which one was in the optional area

[sturdy glen]

list Y list W my beloved

[winged turtle]

do we have a good way to figure out all of the zone numbers in a level from a single terminal?

or is it just list and query every single security door?

[winged turtle]

ohh what do those select for?

[sturdy glen]

shows you pretty much every important item in the level

keys, cells, gens, turbines, objective items

(they query the unknown and security item types)

[wary linden]

don't forget the list u

[sturdy glen]

u's a lil too much for me

[winged turtle]

does resources too

[sturdy glen]

I normally do just y unless im playing a level blind

[wary linden]

Ping those resources :)

No need to search blindly

[winged turtle]

list u is probably better if you are going zone by zone

[sturdy glen]

ye

[winged turtle]

but if its the whole level thats a lot more than you can ping

[sturdy glen]

I normally just do res for zone search but u is a bit faster

fuckin love terminals

[winged turtle]

terminals are the most interesting part of this game imo

everything else you can find somewhere else, but the terminal tech in this game feels unique

[sturdy glen]

its all good except uplinks, fuck uplinks

[winged turtle]

single terminal uplinks are kinda chill.

duo uplinks?

christ on a bike

[gaunt fulcrum]

Is there a page where I can find all the command shortcuts, pretty sure U, Y, res and stuff arent in the terminal commands right?

[winged turtle]

correct

[sturdy glen]

its just figuring out how much you can cut out of searches

[wary linden]

They aren't commands

[sturdy glen]

terminals autofill a LOT

[winged turtle]

the shortcuts are just letters selected out of the item names/tags

[sturdy glen]

its like hitting tab without tab

[wary linden]

They are keywords to narrow tge list command

So your results are filtered

[wooden osprey]

tbh didn't know this existed neat

[gaunt fulcrum]

Soo if I were to do LIST F , would it search for fog turbines?

[sturdy glen]

not necessarily

[winged turtle]

and every other item with f in its name or tags

[gaunt fulcrum]

Oooh

[sturdy glen]

if you dont filter enough youll get things you dont want

generally 3 letters will guarantee whatever you are looking for

[winged turtle]

yeee

[gaunt fulcrum]

I see I see

[wary linden]

It would be in the result but you will have other stuff

[sturdy glen]

for like

[gaunt fulcrum]

So the more letters, the more specific the list will be

[sturdy glen]

zone searches you can use e_(zone number)

[wary linden]

Y U W just are just some rare ones where you get the stuff you want to know

[winged turtle]

yes

if you" list doo" the only things you will find is doors

[gaunt fulcrum]

Ahh because ammopack, medipack, toolrefill dont have Y so you’ll mostly get objective items like keys?

[winged turtle]

yes!

[sturdy glen]

security is an item type

resources go under the resource type

[wary linden]

Well there is no letter U in ammopack but list u show them

[winged turtle]

what are all the item type/tags?

[gaunt fulcrum]

Oh

[sturdy glen]

u gets the unknown, security, and resource types

so it gives you EVERYTHING pretty much

[wary linden]

Yeah

[gaunt fulcrum]

Ahh

[winged turtle]

except boxes lol

[gaunt fulcrum]

What do boxes go under

[winged turtle]

uhhhhhh

[sturdy glen]

I dont remember

I never look them up lol

[gaunt fulcrum]

Unimportant I suppose lmao

[winged turtle]

me neither

[sturdy glen]

you can just list an entire zone if you REALLY wanted to

I know that works

[wary linden]

Most stuff are in different classes for filters. So you can filter broad or very narrow

[gaunt fulcrum]

Mhm I only use LIST E_ or LIST RES E

But I’ll start using Y and W now :)

[sturdy glen]

I use y, w, res e_

[wary linden]

Start using U. It will replace you res

:)

[gaunt fulcrum]

LIST U E_?

[sturdy glen]

ye

[gaunt fulcrum]

Alright alright

[sturdy glen]

it all depends on preference and how aware of the level youre going into you want to be

[winged turtle]

LIST resoUrces zonE_###

[wary linden]

You will know instantly if any valuable other then resources are there. Excpt ids

[sturdy glen]

most of the time it doesnt matter too much if you query keys or objectives in advance until you reach a door

[gaunt fulcrum]

Ahh

[sturdy glen]

and for zone search it just depends on how much you want to see

[winged turtle]

this is all over prep, but it feeeels good

[gaunt fulcrum]

I feel like I just unlocked a permanent terminal use +17% booster in my brain

Pog

[sturdy glen]

go and impress your squad, its fun

[gaunt fulcrum]

Yea they all call my name first when anyone finds a terminal xD

Its like “hey ed terminal here, go do what u do”

[sturdy glen]

do the thing funny computer person

[gaunt fulcrum]

Fr

But thanks for the explanation guys

Appreciate it

[tiny tundra]

Late to the terminal convo but what does LIST W filter specifically? I already knew about Y and U

[turbid horizon]

I’ve only ever used ES and E_#

I assume U filters security

[tiny tundra]

U is Unknown and Resources

[turbid horizon]

Ah

[sturdy glen]

(it also gets security)

[tiny tundra]

Oh right

[sturdy glen]

W is unknown only

[tiny tundra]

It's super handy

Ohhh gotcha, so that'd be like cells or fog turbines?

[sturdy glen]

y is security only, w is unknown only, U is resources, security and unknown

ye

[tiny tundra]

Based, tyvm