gtfo-related-questions

[sly zodiac]

Is the game worth it right now?

Is it alive? Does it have a healthy player count and so on?

[latent obsidian]

It fluctuates with when rundowns are released but take a look at the voice chat channels in this server because the lfg system used here is one of the most common ways people find groups to play the game with. People will post looking for groups in #lfg-north-america etc (whichever is relevant to you)

Your answer is how active those are. New content was released a week or two ago so its probably a little busier than normal, and we are due for (hopefully) more frequent content updates in the months to come. Now is a good time to pick up the game as they are re-releasing levels from the start

[twilit verge]

So like, what is one tip you’d give to a new player

[sly zodiac]

Thanks for the great answer, sounds good to me! I was worried about not being able to find players to play with since its a 4 man co op game but the discord server seems quite active so I dont think this will be an issue :)

[fresh spindle]

How do i turn off the red dropshadows on UI?
I'm playing on low resolution and I find it very strenuous to read the numbers on sliders in the settings menu. I haven't found any way of turning it off in-game so I know the solution must be something else.

[latent obsidian]

the enemies take double damage in the back so hit them there

[twilit verge]

Cool

[jaunty bear]

If you move, move. If you don't move, don't. I hate tapping your keys when getting closer to shit or sneaking. It's a do or don't situation and helps far better not to do it, especially in high density locations.

[twilit verge]

Thanks

[hoary thunder]

Is there a sic command for bots to engage sleeping sleepers?

[craggy pier]

sadly no

[full shadow]

Hi all, ran into a problem on the R7B1 "Cargo". It is at this location notice unstable framerate, as well as the constant crashes after the death of the squad. Who knows how to fix it?

[hoary thunder]

You better go to tech support channel with that

I don't have any issues with performance on that map

[violet jungle]

it toggles gear

[craggy pier]

how is the 40 mag machine gun compared to the 60 mag machine gun ?

[ocean spindle]

uh a bit more like the heavy assault, i think its has a bit more control
both r good tho they just r for different kinds of people, spray and pay and methodical lil shots

[viscid wolf]

slower one gud for damage output and killing

think of it as a beeg mag assault rifle

beeg one for spamming into waves and stagger to help ur team kill em

[silver fable]

I think eva clarified things with you

R1 is kind of a cakewalk rundown, it being the first

[ocean spindle]

isnt it harder now

[silver fable]

I've heard both takes, I think

But most experienced crews blew through it in like 2hrs

[ocean spindle]

i mean most experienced do that with every rundown

[silver fable]

I wouldn't say that

most of the ones I watched on stream took about a week on R7

Or like, marathon'd it and took like 30hrs

and R7 is pretty middle-of-the-road

[ocean spindle]

i mean most come from the e1 and c3
and this is a rundown with, considerable less levels

[vital sierra]

pros and cons for both R1

old R1 has bugs that make guns kill faster

new R1 has more guns to use

[ocean spindle]

i wont even ask about that bug

[vital sierra]

shotgun sentry damage bug

no stamina vs stamina (not really much of a different)

[ocean spindle]

ok i didnt even needed to ask

[vital sierra]

both of them played the same

[silver fable]

anyway, I'm not sure we're disagreeing about a lot here

context was that I was telling a new player who had finished r1 and was disappointed that only it and r7 are available that a rundown (with the exception of r1 and maybe r3) typically takes a long time for intermediate skill level teams to clear

[ocean spindle]

ik the context
think we just
went too out of line too fast

[silver fable]

if they finish r7 in a week and sit around bored after that, I guess I will have been mistaken?

they'll also know the pain the vets feel

though probably for not nearly as long, r2 shouldn't be 6 months away

[craggy pier]

what does artifact heat mean?

[icy cave]

Effectivness of artifacts count towards boosters

Eg. 100% heat you need 3 artifacts to get one booster

50% you need to grab 6 artifacts to get one booster

[craggy pier]

Oh, that's cool

[serene siren]

Recently grabbed the game now that the devs are bringing back all previous rundown (Thanks you!) Which rundown would you say is easier to tackle first for new players R1 Alt or R7?

[latent obsidian]

definitely R1 Alt

[serene siren]

Ahh thanks very much 🙂

[minor fractal]

R1 was designed around the assumption that every single player, or at least the vast majority of players, would be beginners at the game.

So the entire thing might as well be a 6 level introduction to GTFO as a game.

[tardy ingot]

somewhat ye

id argue r7a1 is easier than r1a1 (tho its not that different)

but every other level is easier than their r7 counterpart

[minor fractal]

R1A1 really do have that special quality.

Back in the day I said it was an introduction, but that B1 was the actual tutorial.

[minor hornet]

Why are peoples voice channel links in lfg channels so short? I right click, and copy link on the VC I want to play in and it came out super long compared to others

[minor hornet]

Ok, I figured it out

[left bear]

Is there a way to bind a secondary key on keyboard without using a third-party software?

[minor fractal]

Nope, secondary keys are not supported (for some reason).

[lime badge]

Hey guys , I am very new to the game and I am mid mission right now , I have a very quick question, does C foam like go away if it will just stay on the floor after time?

[icy cave]

On floor it dissappears on doors it does not

[lime badge]

Thanks

[lavish kestrel]

I believe it's about 5 minutes on the ground. For doors it lasts indefinitely

[lime badge]

Alright thanks , helps alot , hopefully gonna help with the annoying chargers

[upbeat cove]

Can you list a fog turbine on a level?

[shrewd dirge]

yes

any pickups are listable, except for a specific item in r7d2.

[dry pumice]

Wait, door foam is infinite?

[primal goblet]

yes , so if you foamed the wrong door you will have to smash it open

[dry pumice]

What, why. What is this mechanical inconsistancy. All this time I refuse to apply foam to doors until the last moment and for nothing.

These devs start to piss me off.

[lyric heart]

Yeah?

Foam just reinforces and adds health to a door

It also jams the door as well

Theoretically a door can be unbreakable if you have enough c foam

Basically if you keep reapplying c foam, the door will continue gaining health

Idk what you expected

[minor fractal]

It despawns on the floor

so you'd expect it to despawn anywhere.

[lyric heart]

Imagine using c foam on the ground

This post was made by the “I have no idea what the fuck I’m doing” prisoner squad

[minor fractal]

It's not bad in certain chokes due to enemy collision

Unintended buff.

[lyric heart]

Like that bio scan on R1B2

Near Z20

[minor fractal]

Also, alongside mines, it lets you "tool dump" when you're loaded on resources.

Which is at least some if not a lot of value.

[shrewd dirge]

wish the speed that enemies broke doors was dependent on the number of enemies behind a door.

sometimes you get that single shooter putting in the work

[weary mesa]

AI pathing and door mechanics could be tweaked to be a bit more interesting

[warm osprey]

Where do you put the lobby codes to join games?

[craggy pier]

just copy the code and the game will give you an option to join

[warm osprey]

Oh, thank you very much!

[craggy pier]

any time

[rain patio]

Is R7B3 or C1 harder?

[vital sierra]

b3 main vs c1 main

c1 is harder

b3 PE vs c1 main?

b3 PE

[rain patio]

PE sounds like Hell

[soft crater]

Imagine if multiple doors could just break at the same time

[weary mesa]

I wish

[craggy pier]

is there any reason to use a melee other than hammer

[floral acorn]

b3 with optionals is a doozy, even harder than c1. b3 main only? walk in the park.

[icy cave]

Nope

[tardy ingot]

Hey hey hey

Theres the bat if you wanna destroy smash locks the quickest (and not shoot)

And the knife is for when you dont have anything other than maybe 2 bigs to deal with :^ )

[icy cave]

Sooooooooooo still no reason at all to bring anything else than hammer

[tardy ingot]

R1C1 is better with knifes

doesnt actually matter

but technically it is

[icy cave]

Soon you'll be saying that bio is usefull. Poor lad 😔

[vital sierra]

oy

Ye got a loicense for stabbing mate

[floral acorn]

delivered with a healthy dose of nasal whine .. .. naaasal whoooiiine

<sorry, getting mi coat ->

[tardy ingot]

im sorry that i dont have wallhacks via mods
I need to get the ingame version of it

[neat rover]

Hello which rundown do I start with as a new player?

[vital sierra]

alt 1

[neat rover]

Alright thanks

[icy cave]

Pathetic

[solemn flint]

i have a question, im really bad at aiming so what gun should i use

[vital sierra]

shotgun

[icy cave]

Wrong approach. Train your aim

[vital sierra]

[icy cave]

Don't listen to this clown, he is new to the game, and is throwing all kinds of weird takes around on the discord

[solemn flint]

oke

thanks alot

[icy cave]

👍

[vital sierra]

weird take?

i only go around throwing hot take

if you want to stir the pot, you need it to be hot

[icy cave]

😂

[dry pumice]

His answer checks out though.

Shotguns don't need as much precision by definition.

[icy cave]

/woosh

I know Artek 😏

[latent obsidian]

Sniper has the highest damage so you can body shot most enemies without having to target the head

if your aim isn't good enough for that

[solemn flint]

i would prefer something that is good at killing flyer while also not bad at dealing with waves of enemies

[latent obsidian]

Hel revolver is good for that but if you want less aiming maybe Carbine

They are both very meta weapons

[vital sierra]

ah, what you want is an excuse

try PR

or just go with shotgun

and said "i can't shoot flyer, you guys take care of it"

[latent obsidian]

If you don't have good aim PR is not good for dealing with waves I think

[vital sierra]

work everytime

[solemn flint]

that's a really good idea

[vital sierra]

just said "it's not center so i'm missing shot"

[icy cave]

Guy can't aim..... try PRECISION rifle

Man this world is doomed

[vital sierra]

you can use PR and miss

but we want excuse

[latent obsidian]

People will hear you firing it and assume you're hitting shots

[vital sierra]

so it's an easy excuse

[vital sierra]

yes

[latent obsidian]

Say you're aiming for the ones at the back cos they have less sway

[vital sierra]

work everytime

your firing sound is like sniper

they just assume that you're shooting things

[icy cave]

Time to introduce end level stats.

[latent obsidian]

if you exclaim things like "yes!" "got em!" and "headshot!" it will add to the effect

[icy cave]

Basically you are encouraging lies and deception 👀

[latent obsidian]

No-one is lying yet

Just deception

thats step 2 when someone asks "why did we go down?"

[icy cave]

Dunno killing so much

[latent obsidian]

and thats when you blame the tool loadout or turret placement

[icy cave]

Or the other innocent teammates

[solemn flint]

uhmmm

[latent obsidian]

well you don't want to blame your teammates cos they might backlash at you

[solemn flint]

im not the kind of guy who will blame everyone

[latent obsidian]

If you blame the tools its a palatable answer people might swallow

[icy cave]

Watch out with captain beta and ellda Scrolls. If they join your lobby: run

[latent obsidian]

Don't worry I have impeccable aim

no team has ever pinned the blame on me

[icy cave]

🧐

[solemn flint]

why do i have to run away from them?

[icy cave]

They teach some dark arts

[vital sierra]

The Forbidden Arts

[latent obsidian]

"They were afraid because he spoke the truth"

[vital sierra]

[solemn flint]

are they gonna get really mad if i wake up the whole room?

[latent obsidian]

Not at all

[vital sierra]

blame bot

[latent obsidian]

sorry guys I must have gotten the flashlight bug

it was off for me

[solemn flint]

welp

i guess i'm gonna run if i see them

[latent obsidian]

we're sweet little cupcakes really

[ember storm]

hi, can someone tell, should I play R7 for now as newbie, or wait until next rotation. i already completed r1, so I don't know if it's worth it, to jump immediately onto R7

[icy cave]

You can jump into R7

It's gonna learn you some new stuff and you'll be up to date with where the game is

[ember storm]

Thanks. And also, is there info of upcoming rundowns? When will it start and which of it?

[icy cave]

First up will be rerelease of R2 . Alt://R2 but when no one knows

[ember storm]

Okay, much appreciated

[soft crater]

[tribal nimbus]

can somebody help me,
if you get over 100% infection resistant with booster, are you invincible for infection?

[median forge]

Yes

But you will still hear the sound it makes

[wooden osprey]

yes funny enough

[median forge]

It will sound like someone is frying chicken directly in your ear

[wooden osprey]

you just don't take any

[tribal nimbus]

ok, thanks

[wooden osprey]

its the funniest combo

[tribal nimbus]

does this also counts for damage (melee/range

[median forge]

Theoretically yes but you can’t get to 100% resist with boosters

[wooden osprey]

if you get 100%+ damage boots

boost*

that would just end the game

unless you are really bad

[median forge]

I think they are referring to 100% melee resist/ projectile resist

[tribal nimbus]

yes

[median forge]

Boosters are in general kinda whatever until you either use bio scan speed, provisions, or stack 3 of the same

[wooden osprey]

blood sentry wants to know your location

[median forge]

Blood sentry? Bring them to me

[wooden osprey]

Blood sentry= 3 stack cpu speed on sniper sentry (on D2 it just solos)

[thorny creek]

Terminal Use my beloved

I need it back

[median forge]

Oh yeah I ended up doing that once

[wooden osprey]

its a blood sentry

[median forge]

The sniper was too fast at that point

It would double tap an enemy before their corpse even hit the ground

[wooden osprey]

funny enough in levels with terminal use it helped alot

[median forge]

Also I vouch for terminal use to return as well

I loved pinging meds 50 times a second

[thorny creek]

R5C3 with terminal use was pretty funny

If it ever returns, then R4C1 Ex will be pretty interesting.

[median forge]

As sad as it is to see it gone, it would probably be way too strong when stacked on any uplink level

[wooden osprey]

it would make that level so much less suckier

R4C1 was a bad level and extreme was just ew

[thorny creek]

That level was RNG simulator

[median forge]

Let’s get the warden to irradiate the glow sticks so anything nearby takes additional damage

[wooden osprey]

henrikson took all the terminal use boosters ):

[lost flame]

pocket uranium

[median forge]

R7C3 begs to differ

[wooden osprey]

god bioscan speed with glowstick was such a good booster

even the hacktool one

they removed them for no reason

the hacktool one basically made it so you had to sacrifice a gun for bioscan speed making it use skill

but nooooo

we can't have skill in this game (that level of skill)

[thorny creek]

No skill, only checkpoint

[median forge]

What if you could pull out the hacking tool and do the hack minigame to speed up he bio scan

[wooden osprey]

that would make scans 10x more fun so its illegal

[median forge]

It would sacrifice your attention on the enemies for more scanning

I do find it odd that the only thing you can hack with the tool are the digital locks

[wooden osprey]

it was a make and forget thing

and its a good one to make and forget

[woeful jay]

Only issue I'd see with this would be abusing it with perma-foam to invalidate every scan in the game.

[shrewd dirge]

i wish they developed the idea of weird ass boosters. made the game dynamic and funny.

[weary mesa]

Devs not deleting permacheese from the game

[rain patio]

Any tips for R7D1? Or should I do C2&3 and B3 first?

[steel valley]

what part

[craggy pier]

B3 c2 d1 c3

[rain patio]

Lost 2 runs last night after the second room, when you have the alarm followed by a second alarm

[steel valley]

do the error alarm

[rain patio]

We also couldn't get the second room full stealth, we usually had the scouts waking up

[steel valley]

you can skip the first class 10

• you get tons of resources

[rain patio]

The error alarm is the one you have to disable in Zone 199, right? That's the one we're stuck on.

[steel valley]

oh

ye thats it

bring mines and drop them behind doors as you run

shouldnt be too hard once you finish that one alarm in there

[rain patio]

To be fair we went in blind, lost the first run cause we got lost on the way to 199, second run we didn't know there was a second alarm door

Yeah not even looking at the Overload cause I've heard that one is glitched in terms of snatchers, you can get 1-4 spawn instead of the 1 it's supposed to do every 4 minutes

[steel valley]

yep

some workarounds for it but it's been broken for like half a year lmao

[rain patio]

I've also heard B3 PE is straight up doo doo

[steel valley]

b3 is pretty easy if you don't mind fog

[rain patio]

I very much mind fog

[steel valley]

unlucky

[rain patio]

And B3 is infection fog too, innit?

[steel valley]

skip c2 then

both of them are filled with infectious fog

[craggy pier]

B3pe is annoying but its okayish whoever said that prolly has skill issue

[rain patio]

I think I'm just gonna try to clear D1, then E1, then wait for the next Rundown

Do you need to do all the secondary objectives for the drip?

[steel valley]

they removed that

so now it's just mains

[rain patio]

Nice

[steel valley]

kinda a shame tbh

[craggy pier]

Yeah its ehh

[rain patio]

To be fair I got the game like 5 days ago

I don't know the general vibe in regards to how the game should be

[craggy pier]

Ah i see

[rain patio]

I know there's a lot of getting gang banged

But so far I've only cleared R1 and half of R7

[steel valley]

i've always done full layer clears for my firsts

[craggy pier]

Oh yeah there def is, just don't be the first one to sleep

[steel valley]

led to some tough levels but it's more satisfying that way

[rain patio]

Any opinions on loadouts? I typically do bullpup and choke mod, or PDW/SMG with heavy assault.

[craggy pier]

I like my 1,1,1,1 clears

[craggy pier]

You can grab whatever main wpn

For special you can get machine guns or shotguns

Or sniper if you that type of Player tho they nerfed sniper ammo refills

[rain patio]

Never tried the machine guns. Is the new one better?

[steel valley]

nah

[rain patio]

I ain't that guy, pal

[steel valley]

best mains are pdw/hel revo/carbine

secondaries are a role fill but old mg/choke/sniper are my go tos

[craggy pier]

New one is good if you do short bursts

The old one is crowd control keeping enemies at bay

[rain patio]

I'm decent at that, the new one is the Veruta right?

Just not a big fan of the fact that the chargeup isn't on ADS, it's when you're firing

[craggy pier]

New one is the veruta arbalist V

Its weird yeah but in gtfo its the norm

[rain patio]

I've had more success on running the heavy assault over machine gun so far

I do 2-3 round bursts typically

[craggy pier]

Wish they'd add m134

[steel valley]

har is pretty decent still after the nerfs

[rain patio]

I've heard the old heavy SMG used to fucking shred

[steel valley]

they just buffed the mg wayy too much for me to go to the har

smg never got nerfed lmao

it's always been shit

[craggy pier]

Heavy rifle does the same as veruta techman VII but worse with less ammo and higher recoil

[steel valley]

oh wait heavy smg illiterate mb

[rain patio]

Not the SMG, the Accrat ND6 yeah

[steel valley]

i never liked it because of the uptime personally

[spark wolf]

you're heavy

[steel valley]

felt like you were reloading half the time with it

[rain patio]

I've heard the range is better on the heavy, so if it was closer range I'd use the choke mod

[steel valley]

if you want a midrange primary just go carbine or ar if you want full auto

[craggy pier]

Assault rifle the 🐐

[steel valley]

they've been buffed so many times over the last few rundowns

[rain patio]

I still wanna run a thermal cause R7 got some of the invisible fuckers

[craggy pier]

Pdw then tho i don't like it much

[humble crater]

how do you do the d2 first terminal password? whenever i go in silently, always the door next to the entrance gets slammed by the sleepers inside

[craggy pier]

Whaaat

Wym slammed

Did you wake up a scout or something?

[steel valley]

they can spawn inside on the charger side sometimes

[craggy pier]

Oh

I've only played d2 twice

[humble crater]

you gotta be kidding me it wakes the scouts

[upper ginkgo]

you can mitigate chargers spawning in the side rooms by holding in the hub room instead of the long corridor room before the blood door

[mossy aurora]

bridge holders

🤢

[upper ginkgo]

ngl bridge holders are chads for making the level objectively more harder than it needs to be

[violet jungle]

what is a bridge holder

[past mesa]

On d2 is you hold In the room outside the first blood door when you open either 213 or 212 you will get a glitched wave of many many giants 7-9 charger giants in a single wave

Only takes one player to initiate the glitch and it can happen on the run back if you force a spawn on bridge

[past mesa]

Glitches spawn moments very funny

[steep pivot]

is it just me or is the veruta XXII just insane

[ocean spindle]

i like it

[viscid wolf]

both lmgs are stronk

[steep pivot]

yea thats what i felt ive played since rd 5 and im picking the game up again the furthest my groups has gone was like rd6 d2 and it feels like they buffed the veruta XXII and brought back the arbalist with increased alpha

also rest in peace heavy ar

also any news on the burst cannon?

[minor fractal]

Wym?

Burst cancelling is patched, but it'll be back come R3.

[steep pivot]

i missed out on it because i started playing too late just wondering if they have plans on bringing it back

[minor fractal]

Since they're releasing weapons based on when they originally came out.

[cosmic marsh]

is the kovac red ranger helmet still available?

[minor fractal]

They haven't teased anything in that regard, but it's safe to assume it'll come back for R3.

[steep pivot]

im excited for that but rip burst cancelling

[minor fractal]

R2: Machine Pistol and Burst Rifle
R3: HEL Gun, HEL Rifle, and BC
R4: Autopistol
R5: Double-tap Rifle and Heavy SMG

[steep pivot]

thank u bruddah

also where sawed off

[minor fractal]

Sawed-off will be R5.

[misty prairie]

gimme back uzi smg

[minor fractal]

R2, comin' up here.

[steep pivot]

bro if they bring back auto pistol with 5 stagger it gon be wild

[misty prairie]

muh machine pistol

:(

[steep pivot]

ok idc what ppl say about the machine pistol

[misty prairie]

AND GAVEL

[steep pivot]

that gun was so much fun

[misty prairie]

i like machine pistol brapapapapa goes fast

[steep pivot]

omg gavel enjoyer i like you

[ocean spindle]

machine pistol is based

[steep pivot]

indeed

i used to run exclusively machine pistol and lmg

it was so much fun

then they begon'd the machine pistol

and now im coping with smg but smg is like a wet noodle

[misty prairie]

i like bullpup

[steep pivot]

im not good enough to use the bullpup well

my tracking is really bad

[misty prairie]

doubletap rifle owo

when

[steep pivot]

i feel like the bullpup is a mid long range weapon because the reload is pain

yesterday i was talking to my friends and no one seems to remember that gun

[misty prairie]

2.5 sec is no joke

[steep pivot]

which is strange because i remember everyone using it when r5 was around

[minor fractal]

Don't believe it was in R5.

[steep pivot]

it is bro

i swear double tap is r5

unless im mad trippin

[hoary thunder]

What's the niche of HEL Shotgun?

[steep pivot]

penetrating rounds

you can CC better than auto shotgun imo

[minor fractal]

Oh, ambiguous subject. Thought you meant Bullpup.

[misty prairie]

double tap is r5 ye

[hoary thunder]

It's penetrating? Game doesn't mention it

[misty prairie]

Double tap canceling hehe

[steep pivot]

oh lul

[steep pivot]

its there tho

[minor fractal]

? It's a HEL weapon.

[misty prairie]

silencers when

[ocean spindle]

never

[steep pivot]

its real nice when you get a good funnel and down like 6 lickers strikers in a few shots

its what i run if i know im going to exclusively doing CC

[hoary thunder]

also is it just me or it's spread is atrocious

[steep pivot]

because other than CC its kinda bad

[steep pivot]

yea i think it has the worst spread on any shotty in game

apart from scatter gun

[steep pivot]

bruh moment when you want to do actually 5 damage

[misty prairie]

i dont care about anything just bring back melee variants back

is it that hard to implement i want my gavel back

[steep pivot]

bro

at one point

they teased a sword

or some dude teased a sword and im still waiting for it

unless it was a mod

then i cope

[minor fractal]

Sounds like modded.

[misty prairie]

shield when

[minor fractal]

P sure there's a broadsword in one of them.

[misty prairie]

also a steed

[steep pivot]

it had the gtfo art style and model style tho

if it was a mod it was really well done

[minor fractal]

There's a lot of custom parts in modded nowadays.

[steep pivot]

it was more like a combat machete

[minor fractal]

Some stuff is also GTFO assets, just rearranged.

[steep pivot]

gotcha

[minor fractal]

They work hard over there.

[misty prairie]

wasnt there an axe

hmm

[hoary thunder]

anything tactical-looking will fit

[misty prairie]

Also WHYYYY precision rifle has no stock

wtf

how is it a precision rifle if there is no stock

[steep pivot]

it should wut

[hoary thunder]

It does, it is just small

[misty prairie]

oh wait

its on a handle

i am totally blind

but it's so small

[steep pivot]

also this isnt a question but the sniper sentry door still work

embed fail

[hoary thunder]

No embeds on this channel bruh

[misty prairie]

Mod Summary

New melee weapon skins

• 2 Axe skins for Bat and Sledgehammer slot
• Mace skin for Bat slot

first one i found

[weary mesa]

Rifle my beloved

[minor fractal]

orite

[weary mesa]

Don't worry

They removed it

[minor fractal]

A moment of silence, please.

[weary mesa]

Prayge

[dull junco]

Any recommendations on weapons for a starting player

[verbal zinc]

Hel Revolver and Burst Cannon

[steep pivot]

how much FPS have you played in the past

and how good is your aim

[dull junco]

Played everything from competitive CSGO and r6 to more relaxed halo and it's alright

[steep pivot]

ok if youre competitive and comfortable with your aim DMR, assault rifle and bullpup will feel like home for you

DMR being 12 shots each high alpha bullpup being a lazer beam and the ar is like a generic ar

if youre into burst firing carbine is also good

as for your secondary slot i recommend something that you feel will support your main the best so imo a close CC or brawling weapon would be my pick

secondary would run the veruta XXII or the choke mod shotgun or combat shotgun

i would stay away from the heavy ar as its kinda frustrating for me

[dull junco]

Tried the bull and loved it the DMR feels situational though. For secondary, I usually ran a shotgun but I also tried the drum mag LMG.

[steep pivot]

DMR is a long weapon

once you get rushed you just swap secondary

especially because my aim is not great

the drum mag lmg is insane rn

what i usually run with my group is the Hel shotgun + drum mag lmg

because im a CC slave

[dull junco]

Feels like you go from long to cc real quick especially if your running matchmaking with randos who don't melee

[steep pivot]

yea

it be like that

game is honestly borderline unplayable for ppl who dont know how to melee

[dull junco]

Firefights can be fun but realistically you just don't have enough ammo

[steep pivot]

mhm

and thats why i love the game

[mossy aurora]

[mossy aurora]

[steep pivot]

i mean you could prolly do A tier of every rundown guns only

[mossy aurora]

[dull junco]

[mossy aurora]

Ammo is super generous....

[steep pivot]

man never misses got it

👍

[icy cave]

No he is right there is more ammo than needed

[mossy aurora]

There's a couple levels where ammo can be tight if you pull a scout or fuck up some rooms but overall they are pretty generous with resources since r6

[icy cave]

👆

[mossy aurora]

Just make sure you are balancing your weapons (not using only primary or only special) and don't overfill and you should be fine

[steep pivot]

i played less of newer rundowns the most i played was r5 and doing all the secondary objectives and stuff man that shit was hell

[icy cave]

Ah the good stuff

When the game was still hard

[steep pivot]

legit when checkpoints came out i was like dang

no more having 1 scout screw a like 4 hour full objectives run

[mossy aurora]

Yeah the pressure of resource allocation from R5 isn't comparable to how it is in current levels

[verbal zinc]

[steep pivot]

i cleared R1 with my buddies the other day and did all the R7 main missions and honestly we kept throwing and throwing and throwing and somehow still passes

[icy cave]

4 hours is abit overkill. But yes it was better back then

[mossy aurora]

If you wake up scouts by accident though, you should have enough ammo to stand your ground....

[steep pivot]

it was from one of the first times i tried to do a secondary objective and like all the lights shut off and we fumbled so hard

for so long too

[icy cave]

Sounds like R5A2

fun level it is

[steep pivot]

prolly yea

[verbal zinc]

You should try to play this game soundless. That’s a real challenge!

[steep pivot]

and the ending had us like carry a package

[verbal zinc]

[steep pivot]

and we have to slow walk back to extraction

[steep pivot]

youre a monster

[icy cave]

Impossible

[verbal zinc]

👻

[mossy aurora]

Yeah I hate stamina too

[icy cave]

that is just fake news

[icy cave]

Yeah Def R5A2

[steep pivot]

bro i learned how to like kite and do the whole like sprint jump dance funny stuff just for them to introduce r6 and now stamina is auuuuuuuuugh

[icy cave]

You can still do that tho

[steep pivot]

not infinitely anymore

which makes me sadge

whats yalls opinion on the best melee weapon post stamina rework

[icy cave]

Hammer, the rest is irrelevant

[mossy aurora]

I prefer the Santonian HDH

[gentle tendon]

R2 soundless will propably give sanity advantage though. IYKYK
cough wheeze screech

[dry pumice]

Unfortunately hammer. Unbeatable jack of all trades, can do anything, minimal maintanance.

Dagger kills smalls quick, but only them.
Bat is like knife, but can stunlock anything and breaks locks in 1 charges hit.
Spear is inferior hammer with only good thing being extra reach (which is irrelevant most of the time).

So yeah. Bad balance leads us to obvious conclusion: it's just hammer. Everything else is basically gimping yourself for shits and giggles.

[lost flame]

Spear also has a comically forgiving hitbox, spear is like an easier to use hammer

The hitbox after swinging lasts for like, what, two whole seconds?

[tardy ingot]

Cant run while charging
Less base dmg (cant 1 tap strickers in the front body)
Worse stagger

[gentle tendon]

I'm also pretty sure spear deals higher damage leading to easier giant kills.

Of course if you play perfectly hammer can do everything, while other weapons are more specialized, leading to not being able to do some things.

I prefer Hammer myself, but knife and spear do have their place

[tardy ingot]

spear 17,5 base fully charged. 1,3x critical multy
Hammer 20 base
1x crit multy

so spear does 34,125 to a giant strikers head
Hammer does 30

after that hammer always does 2,5 more (or 5 more from behind)
Occi is 68,25 vs 60

Youd think, great! That means quicker kills. Nope not rly

hammers need 4 from the front or 3-4 from behind (with occi 3)
Spear doesnt change that

It is EASIER to solo juggle a giant with spear, but at the same time you simply cant deal with smalls as well

the advantage spear has vs giant is range. And range vs no sprint charge, slightly lower charge and worse stagger isnt worth it rly

obviously all melees are viable, but spear is kinda eh

[soft crater]

looks at Wyvern. guy who already plays gtfo mute

Given they're deaf tho but yes

[soft crater]

Hammers is always 3 to the back of giants regardless of head

[tardy ingot]

i mean it is an extra challenge
no bio and no sound forces you to be way more aware

i know its become a bit of a meme tho…

[tardy ingot]

Wasnt there a rounding bug issue iirc?

or was that angle related?

[soft crater]

Rare occurence or angle

I've personally only come across the rounding bug once

Full charged a striker to the front body and he lived

Hammer

[tardy ingot]

that was a bug issue tho iirc

same as the r6 back dmg orientation bug

Triggered me so bad

[soft crater]

shrugs

Even then they should have a sliver of hp left even if they survive 3 charged hits to the back

Should just be a tap then dead

[tardy ingot]

yep

but yeah
Spear doesnt change anything for giant kills

its just the range

spear was broken with the aoe drag but 😦 i miss spear

[soft crater]

Spear with AoE drag made me feel like a spearman warrior like a hack and slash game

[tardy ingot]

i remember intentionally aggroing r6c1 scouts room over and over and going full sparta

with 3 other friends

[distant gate]

Make spears great again

[night ether]

if i did R7B1 should i continue doing R7B missions or go down to R7C1?

[icy cave]

Spears were never great

[icy cave]

B2 + sec is easier than C1

[night ether]

ok thx

[icy cave]

B3 main is easier

B3PE is harder

[icy cave]

so up to you

[night ether]

ill probably do B2/B3 first

[icy cave]

enjoy 😃

[indigo tendon]

id appreciate if someone could explain rundowns to me cause idk if im getting it, if i understood correctly its that every few weeks/months you get a new rundown which will be completely unique and old ones cant be replayed, correct?

[icy cave]

old news. they do not remove old rundowns anymore

and currently they re-add the previously removed

[indigo tendon]

are the readded ones the ALT:// versions?

[icy cave]

Alt://R1 is already out

yes

[indigo tendon]

ahh i see ok

[icy cave]

that's why currently we have R1 and R7

[indigo tendon]

would it be more advisable to start with R1 or with R7?

[icy cave]

R1

it's the easiest rundown ever made

[indigo tendon]

k thx

[craggy pier]

Do hordes during security scans keep coming until the scan is complete or is there a limited number of enemies that can spawn?

[vital sierra]

alarm spawn endless amount of enemy

unless you finish the scan, it won't stop

[craggy pier]

Thx

[swift patrol]

Is there any way to turn ragdolls on?

[craggy pier]

ragdolls for what?

[swift patrol]

The monsters

[craggy pier]

sadly no its not gmod

[lunar rain]

Hi, I am trying to beat r7 a1 solo does anyone have any tips for getting to the extraction point with the cell thingy, cause I always seem to move too slow and get smacked

Or would this be a better question for the speed running tab ?

[craggy pier]

drop baby, kill enemies then resume the journey

[lunar rain]

Gotcha

Thanks

[craggy pier]

np

[latent obsidian]

You can run mine deployer and place mines on many of the side doors that enemies can spawn through too. You could get back to the start without having had to stop once

[lunar rain]

I use the shotgun sentry to get through the two alarm doors, but I could try that as well. Enemies spawn two rooms away from the player right ?

[craggy pier]

yes

[latent obsidian]

Yep

[craggy pier]

shotgun sentry sucks in every way

get yourself a burst or sniper

[lunar rain]

I don’t find the shotgun sentry that terrible I put it outside the door with it closed and it seems to take out 4 or 5 guys before they get in

I’ll have to swap around somethings to try out the others

[craggy pier]

sniper sentry 1 shots regulars anyway plus more range so it can cover larger area

[lunar rain]

I didn’t know it one shot that seems a lot better already

[craggy pier]

yep it 2 taps giants as well

[lunar rain]

What ?

That sounds amazing

[craggy pier]

literally the best sentry

[tardy ingot]

tho i personally find burst better for solo r7a1 (then again it might be because i go zoom)

[violet jungle]

i used the burst sentry too

[tardy ingot]

@lunar rain regarding the carrying bit
as others said dropping the baby and killing the 3(4?) enemys close is the easiest way. If you have a good special for that then you gucci (shotgun/high cal are both good for quick kills)

If you use mines (also viable , especially if you take your time and look for cfoam grenades) then mining possible spawn locations is obviously easy

If you use a sentry, DO NOT place the sentry on the other side of a closed door. Open the door and look for a good sight line for said sentry (i prefer burst but sniper works too)

Then when you carry the baby back to spawn you can close the 3 doors on your path back IF the enemys spawned behind you (or to the side)

Its what i usually force on r7a1 solo speedruns

it means you fight a bit more enemys at the end but its usually quite chill as you have a great sight line and funnel

[lunar rain]

So leave the door open with the sentry facing out at where the enemies will come ?

The first time I did the level I got really lucky till I forgot the baby thingy and didn’t bring it back with me to the extract so I ran back grabbed it and then got smacked to the next country by two giants coming out of doors

[tardy ingot]

simple way: „yes“, leave the doors open so enemys dont stack up and have the sentry placed where it can shoot them well and for a long time

Long answer:
You want to funnel enemys down a specific path if possible (this is more noticeable on r6b1 or r7b1 to be fair)
This way they dont get bunched up on doors and dont suprise you. You would want to place the sentry in a good sight line and where it will cover all or the most possible spawns

[tardy ingot]

Oh yeah if you arent trying to go super quick then kill all enemys in zone 48. it makes it a lot easier

[craggy pier]

Do scouts quit spawning enemies after being killed or is there a set amount?

[weary mesa]

set amount

[latent obsidian]

They will only spawn enemies once as they are alerted. after that they are just a slightly stronger enemy

[lunar rain]

It’s a good idea to have them get stacked up on a door if you are using a mine deployer right?

[craggy pier]

Will bots ever accidentally wake up enemies?

Sleepers*

[minor fractal]

No.

[tardy ingot]

Yes

[lunar rain]

And for turrets you keep the door open and the turret in the same room as you with a clear line of sight

[minor fractal]

^

[lunar rain]

Ok thank you for the help, and sorry for the repeated questions asking for clarification

[buoyant quiver]

Matchmaking takes for ever

[glad grove]

I’ve kinda wanted to try out using the revolver are there any tips for more experienced players? (I have about 40h of playtime)

[minor fractal]

-Practice
-The weapon has good damage, and thus good support value if you hit a striker in the body and then you or a teammate finishes it off with a lower damage weapon.
-The reload cancel is really fast, learn how to do it.
-62% is the cutoff at which you can refill w/out any risk of overfilling.
-Hipfire on revo got mega buffed in R7, so don't be afraid to use it from time to time.

[glad grove]

Ah I see

[shrewd dirge]

-to parrot ray, if you body shot a small striker by accident at long range from missing a headshot (in a wave holdout scenario), target the next sleeper and let other members finish the first one.
-you can jump and reload midair to get a little extra distance while reloading.
-pretty fun to occ shot a giant, then finish the rest of him off in the back.

i like to combo it with DMR in parties as long range support (in holdout scenarios), if you feel like constantly only going for headshots, leaving bigs to heavier gunned party members.

giving DMR any main damage boost turns it basically into a revolver, then you will have extremely high ammo eff against smalls.
performs poorly with any sentry other than sniper sentry.

[glad grove]

i mainly use the shotgun and i kinda wanted to use the big iron

[shrewd dirge]

HCP is the real big iron.

more expensive though.

[tardy ingot]

its the revolver for when you cant be bothered to hit heads

[shrewd dirge]

i like it for when some reason im not using DMR.

its low critical damage makes HCP decent against chargers.

[tardy ingot]

it actually got giga nerfed vs them : (

[shrewd dirge]

did it? dang.

[tardy ingot]

from 8m 1shot to never 1 shot

yeah dmg went from 30 to 25

for 1.7 more bullets per refill

[shrewd dirge]

pain in the ass to swap to primary to finish off. not a fan of HCP anymore then.

choke still dumpster chargers?

[tardy ingot]

Y

[shrewd dirge]

anyone got clip of hammer staggering mom to death?

[tardy ingot]

i actually thought they buffed its fall off range

They did, meaning its a straight nerf in a utility sense. Its litteraly only somewhat more ammo efficient at things its rly not the best at (flyers/strikers)

[mossy aurora]

this applies to other weapons as well, but if you want to increase your chances of landing headshots easily, and there arent a group of like 5+ of them coming at you at once, you can let them run towards you and wait for them to start their attack animation and headshot them then because their heads are guaranteed to be stationary

[spark wolf]

yes

[brazen trail]

Is there any way to command bots to coordinate a hit on a big guy or something?

[craggy pier]

nope

you gotta do it yourself

[brazen trail]

big oof

[brazen trail]

is that even possible?

I mean without syringe that said

[craggy pier]

yes you just need to not walk up into melee range otherwise he hurts

break his limbs to stagger

back of the head then arms/legs

[brazen trail]

all of that without alerting anybody?

[craggy pier]

the bots will either shoot him up or melee but their melee is not reliable

[craggy pier]

yes, most likely it will alert

[brazen trail]

So basically, with bots, killing big guys stealth is inconsistent and nothing can be done

[craggy pier]

yes

leave giants last

[brazen trail]

damn. sucks.

[craggy pier]

yeah well you get used to it

[brazen trail]

Really is sad that bots arent good enough to kill a very easy giant in a corner

I landed my blows and they just watched me even if they were super close 😦

[craggy pier]

bots will most likely die to the giant

they only go into melee if they have 0 ammo

[brazen trail]

I hope they consider refining bots so they can help me killing a giant :/

Like sure there's coop but none of my friends plays the game and I have a hard time finding people period.

[craggy pier]

ive asked about few changes but been told no since bots have more advantages than regular players

[neon gust]

No excuse in the state their in

Many things they lack

[brazen trail]

The only advantages bots has over players is that they dont fuck you up

[neon gust]

Cant even tell them to cover you well

[neon gust]

You say yhst but they get in the way of the player a lot

[craggy pier]

as in running away or like doing terminal and have em defend?

[neon gust]

Like if im doing a uplink i want them to defend a specific place not right next to me

[brazen trail]

They dont pick items, they use kits inefficiently, they dont shoot priority targets, they try to heal you midfight and all pile up and die

[craggy pier]

ah that yes i would like holding positions

[brazen trail]

the only good point of bots is that they bring deployables

[neon gust]

Homie just hangs out whenever they feel like and ff you in the process

Worst thing of all they melee at the wrong time

Yeah lemme melee the incoming 5 chargers

[brazen trail]

Im surprised they cannot use the 3,2,1 thing

[neon gust]

They suck with minibosses

[brazen trail]

in the commands

[neon gust]

Mom can see them and birth

[craggy pier]

those are for players with no mic

[neon gust]

They dont get away from tanks los

They dont get away from inmortal

Like holy shiet

I can go on and on

[craggy pier]

bots do be lacking

[neon gust]

But i already made a whole ass video and reddit post abojt them

[brazen trail]

I have no problems that they dont do combat efficiently, but like 3 guys didnt even do a single swing at the big guy

[craggy pier]

yeah that was very helpful

[neon gust]

Atleast they shoot like mothafuckas

On action scenes

[craggy pier]

shooting part they do it like nobody

especially mgs

[neon gust]

They do be good battle partner if you allow them to have range

[craggy pier]

arbalist on bots is insane

[neon gust]

Shits cracked

[brazen trail]

what is this?

[craggy pier]

until some enemies is within 5m of a bot

[neon gust]

R1 machinegun

Any machinegun really

[craggy pier]

the original machinegun, best one (for bots)

[neon gust]

Homeboy do be jhon wicking when they wsnt too

I still dont know what triggers that

I think its like tension level + amount of enemy infront of you or something but its very hard to pin point

[craggy pier]

it might be just me but they dont seem to have recoil or randomness

[brazen trail]

wait

[craggy pier]

they def go full auto when lot of enemies approaching

[neon gust]

Or maybe its just thst it has perfect line of sight so he can target all with its aim delay

[brazen trail]

does that mean they are cracked on DMR?

[neon gust]

Yesnt

[craggy pier]

yes and no

[brazen trail]

OOF

[neon gust]

You better off giving them ar

[craggy pier]

strafing enemies

wasted ammo

[brazen trail]

What you guys think about the Malatak AR?

[craggy pier]

that one

all purpose wpn

[brazen trail]

I used to play it a ton

but I love DMR

but DMR doesnt seem too crazy

I wish it one tapped normal melee bois

[neon gust]

Give it whatver funnt primary damage booster yoy have

[brazen trail]

but it only 1 taps ranged

[craggy pier]

if your aim is great then dmr is the one

as someone who played lot of CS1.6 and HL1 back in the day my aim sure sucks

[brazen trail]

My aim is pretty cracked but jesus the enemies moves so fast and in an unpredictible way sometimes

[craggy pier]

it takes some getting used to

then their heads are juicy cherries

[brazen trail]

Used to love Hel Revolver

but the Hel revolver sight really stinks

like a ton

[craggy pier]

iron sights

[brazen trail]

I truly dont like it

[craggy pier]

🤮

[brazen trail]

Thats why I shifted DMR

I tried the knife as melee weapon

and I just dont know how to feel about it

[craggy pier]

hammer is the one

[brazen trail]

I aim for the head and somehow sometimes it hits the body?????

[craggy pier]

knife is just to look cool

[brazen trail]

It just does it all

Like I just dont get why I would pick anything but the hammer

[craggy pier]

the stab trajectory is slightly below the middle of the screen

[brazen trail]

ye

it feels stupidly awkward

[craggy pier]

it could be better

[brazen trail]

Fell in love with my beloved

Shelling revolver

❤️

1 taps scouts

[craggy pier]

the special revolver?

[brazen trail]

ye

The high damage revolver

[craggy pier]

isnt that to the back of the head?

[brazen trail]

I dont think so

I could always lab it

but I am sure it one taps all the time

at like 80%

should confirm it tho

[craggy pier]

might be a case of skill issue

im soo good at killing scouts

[brazen trail]

no I am saying im 80% sure

that it one taps scouts

[craggy pier]

i havent used it since r6 so i dont know how it is rn

[brazen trail]

Killed 2 scouts with hammer in front of the bois and they thought I was a madlad

[craggy pier]

if only bots could cheer me just like real friends

[brazen trail]

damn

imagine having friends to play gtfo

cant be me man

[mossy aurora]

there is no swing arc for melee weapons if you are in range and the target is in your crosshair btw

[craggy pier]

95% of my gtfo hours are bot

[brazen trail]

damn

litteral solo chad

did 3-4 solo missions for R1

[craggy pier]

got used to the cold emotionless embrace of bots

[craggy pier]

knife hit is slightly below crosshair

[mossy aurora]

it is that way only if you hit while nothing is in your cross hair and in range

[craggy pier]

i might just be sucking with the knife

[neon gust]

Revo 1 tap on the back of the head

[craggy pier]

no front?

[brazen trail]

talking about the Shelling one

THA CHONKY PISTOL

[craggy pier]

high caliber pistol?

[brazen trail]

ye

[craggy pier]

oh that's deagle gamin

[brazen trail]

yo I love that it can 1 tap scouts but I need to confirm if its only back of the head or also the front

I dont have the certitude yet

[craggy pier]

it can 1 tap the front

[brazen trail]

LETS GO

my beloved shelly

it chews strikers like nothing

[craggy pier]

shelly 🧐

[neon gust]

Oh yeah

That fo sure

I tought you meant special revo kekw

[spark wolf]

if there is no swing arc

why can you stand right in front of a giant

aim directly at its knee

with the croshair shrinked

and not hit the leg

[mossy aurora]

idk but i tested after stormpooper was talking about it being a hit scan and you can knife/bat heads on laying down sleepers when their head is on the left side of their body only if the crosshair is shrunken

[void aurora]

in R7B2 i used the bulkhead key to open the main objective, do i need a second key for the secondary mission door or am i screwed on the secondary mission because i didnt do it first

[spark wolf]

you are screwed

but depending on how far you are you might eb able to die

[minor fractal]

Always list and query your bulkhead keys ahead of time.

[void aurora]

well that blow, im doing it solo

[spark wolf]

and reload checkpoint

[void aurora]

im well past that check point now

[spark wolf]

💀

[sturdy glen]

swing arc kinda annoying, its why I wish spear was actually viable cuz scout kills with spear are really hard to fuck up

[sweet spear]

Wasnt there unlockable customizations in R7 for completing all secondary and overload sectors?

[lunar rain]

Thank you for the advice just soloed it took 46 min but I did it

[marsh relic]

General query about spawns in alarm sections (more specifically R1 C1), do enemies spawn in further along rooms depending on how far your team is standing?

[fringe trellis]

not exactly a gtfo question more abt the discord but in the lfg channel do you have to follow the exact format or can you just say something like "looking to do c-e tier levels or side objectives"

because im getting bored of doing the same stuff over and over again and i hate hosting shit since im still somewhat new

[winged turtle]

The spawns will try to be 2 rooms away, in the direction farthest from the reactor, i have had a team that was feeling adventurous and we got the spawns to happen in the drop/extraction room

[winged turtle]

you can post a typical looking post but list out a lot of zones
"R1B2-D1, R7C2-D1"

and for not wanting to host, I leave my Lobby ID blank when i make a post, and then ask the first or second person to join if they can host

and then when they DM their lobby ID, I add it to my post

[rigid sinew]

afaik that really only applies to knife, spear and bat

they are practically a projectile that gets launched from your face or some shit along those lines

hammer should always do its swing even if you are on hit range

[mossy aurora]

oh nice

consistency in melee hit reg

[winged turtle]

[icy cave]

Join what you like

[craggy pier]

is there an explanation why when I crouched still, light off and no team mates nearby a sleeper still woke up

is it possible for them to desync so the game detected movement when the sleeper was thrashing or smthn

[honest lion]

Does charging weapon count as movement?

[craggy pier]

no

and even if it did I wasn't charging weapon

[steep pivot]

hmm i also had that happen and almost ruin a run today

i was on my friend's host so we just assumed desync

but honestly not sure

[tacit zealot]

unless you have a clip there's really no way to give an explanation

the only closest actual bug is door frame triggering scout tentacles

nothing would wake up a sleeper like that, need clip

[hoary thunder]

Yes it desyncs sometimes

[blazing yew]

So...This is actually about the GTFO Points Shop on Steam. There's a "Special Profile" that's a combo of things GTFO-related. I've never used the points shop before so I'm not sure I'm doing something wrong...

1. Is it possible to buy only ONE of the items of the combo?
2. If I do buy the whole combo, is it possible to use only ONE of the items without having to activate the whole "special profile" thing?

[pulsar sage]

I dont think you can Bus a single one but you should be able to select only one item to use

[blazing yew]

Thank you, raccoon friend.

[swift oar]

matchmaking takes so long, joined 2 games so far and one was horribly laggy, one was disbanded mid mission coz ppl keep quit/drop... do i have internet issue or just this is what it is?

[craggy pier]

dont use matchmaking is dead

#how-to-matchmake

you can find people here to play with

[swift oar]

hmm alright.. thank you

[craggy pier]

np

[dry pumice]

Bad luck.
Matchmaking only finds players for the level, the connection issues are based in the host who could be from anywhere.

As other guy pointed out: mm is effectively rotten, use local LFG channels and preferably for people who are not too far away from you.

[blazing yew]

I imagine it's dead because people are using this server instead. xD

[dry pumice]

That's part of it, yeah.
We call the vicious cycle of GTFO matchmaking.
It inevitably leads people here asking what's the deal where we grab them and force them into lfg channels.

[blazing yew]

All I can think of is "Whow, they don't trust their own matchmaking?"

[tardy ingot]

well
There was this discord before
Then people moaned about matchmaking. They added it (altho quite badly)

People who already played a lot rly didnt use it. People had their own parties, so few actually used it

matchmaking is rly iffy

[dense delta]

Idk if I should ask this here but what are the best primary weapon in the game?
also what weapons can 1 shot scouts so I don't have to risk for melee hit

[craggy pier]

Ar

[latent obsidian]

Really its what you prefer but Carbine and hel revolver are quite good choices if you aren't sure

Sniper, precision rifle, choke mod shotgun and pump shotgun can all kill the scout with a shot to the head

[dense delta]

which is the carbine?

[latent obsidian]

shotgun ofc you will need to be quite close

Carbine is a 4 round burst rifle

[dense delta]

You cant 1 shot with shelling?

[latent obsidian]

Is that the revolver?

[dense delta]

High cal pistol

special weapon

[latent obsidian]

High cal pistol will do from close range, yeah

[dense delta]

whats the name do you know?

bullpup?

[latent obsidian]

Carbine...?

[dense delta]

oh no

van

sorry

Didnt look close enough

[orchid merlin]

Any particular level in R1 or R7 that's good for artifact farming?

[craggy pier]

R1 not soo much

R7 c3 secondary is

[latent obsidian]

R1C1 is probably good right

Seeing as its a small level you can access the whole of quite early

but idk if it has bad booster density or something 🤷‍♀️

[tardy ingot]

Artifact farming 😐

[orchid merlin]

what can i say

i get all giddy seeing aggressive boosters

for it to just tell me +103% hacking skill

[tardy ingot]

aggressive boosters are the only ones i ever pick up if i do pick smth up

[orchid merlin]

[tardy ingot]

but farming for them :/

[tardy ingot]

primary generally are more preference. So comfort and playstyle based.
Hel revolver and carbine are pretty busted rn tho. Dmr/hel shotgun and pdw are also very good

Sniper/choke mod/high cal/pump shotgun/precision rifle can all headshot scouts
Revolver can kill to the back of the head

Then again, meleeing is needed later and also VERY fun

[spark wolf]

don't pick up the artifacts, they'll know

[orchid merlin]

who's they

[tardy ingot]

artifacts are how they track you down

[craggy pier]

when is G tier level being added

When we get more than 10 levels per rundown

[tardy ingot]

tbh even an F tier as the absolute final level would feel weird

[craggy pier]

oh right

F is before G

[tardy ingot]

especially since it would need to be a huge step up to E

[craggy pier]

i forgor

r8 with 2 E levels surely

Yeah they can only go soo far before it becomes unplayable

[icy cave]

Honestly a tier where you just a to press a button to win don't interest me

[craggy pier]

*unplayable by the bottom 80% of the playerbase

[latent obsidian]

They'd be adding challenges they have no idea how people are able to beat if they are to make a level that befits that tier. Gonna be hard for them to balance

[tardy ingot]

@icy cave huh?

[icy cave]

We already have R5

[craggy pier]

You keep referencing as jf i will know come on man 😭

[icy cave]

Too farfetched joke I guess

[tardy ingot]

Generous take

E tiers (and i mean even R7E1) isnt completed by 20% of the community

[dry pumice]

(press F to win)

[tardy ingot]

Its also me being somewhat sick and not understanding grammar atm

[craggy pier]

do you mean 80% of players complete it?

[icy cave]

Proud of you

[craggy pier]

that doesnt sound right

[latent obsidian]

I'd be interested in how many players that attempt E1 at some point beat it

Rather than the other wacky stats we've gotten before

[dry pumice]

I got shamefully carried by Nomad

[icy cave]

Way more than before

[dry pumice]

I don't know how to beat that level, but I have the clear

[tardy ingot]

no i said

E tiers are not completed by 20% of the community, contrary to your generous take which said unplayable by bottom 80%

[icy cave]

Still counts tho

[craggy pier]

OH right ok I understand now

[dry pumice]

Had starring completion with big papa, took out a tank, ran out of ammo on chargers...

[craggy pier]

yes you're right

[craggy pier]

Its pretty basic honestly

[tardy ingot]

i mean imo R7E1 is the easiest E level
R2E1 is comparable, but requires a lot more non fuck ups

[dry pumice]

I guess I did got the fully experience.

[orchid merlin]

what kinda stats were given before?

[craggy pier]

which other rundowns have E?

[icy cave]

R2E1 is harder def

[icy cave]

R2, R4 and R5

[craggy pier]

cool

[tardy ingot]

r7e1s biggest difficulty is ressource management and the bs moment at the end of reactor

Once youve known how to do those its actually chill

[latent obsidian]

They usually count repeat runs. So they just give a % which is runs won / runs started. (Correct me if I'm wrong)

Which can be vets repeating the level over and over and winning, or one noob team trying a hundred times and not winning

[icy cave]

You snuk or you defend?

technically need to do one of both for complete exp

[tardy ingot]

me lowering the completion % for EVAL (training ugh) by doing it over 1000 times

[dry pumice]

Defended.

[orchid merlin]

me and my one friend tried r7c3 yesterday and uh, safe to say it gave me that same level of spook i experienced when i first got the game

[icy cave]

On you go sneaking then 👍

[craggy pier]

Sneaking is easier

[latent obsidian]

I still haven't done R7E1 sneaking 😨

[craggy pier]

You don't wanna be the one shooting both tanks

[tardy ingot]

imo (didnt complete r4/r5 e tiers but saw completions)

R4 > R5 > R2 >= R7

Tho r7 might obviously change with alt

[latent obsidian]

Only one time when we didn't really know what we were doing and died

[orchid merlin]

can't imagine what the E levels are like

[tardy ingot]

R7E1 isnt THAT bad

[icy cave]

Yeah that seems correct

[latent obsidian]

I'm curious how I'll find R2E1 when alt releases

I never beat it

The end just seemed too much

[tardy ingot]

if they keep the 2nd part in a similar way then its gonna be cool

[icy cave]

It basically an old D tier

(pre R6)

[craggy pier]

most of the level is pretty smooth, it's just the last 5-10 minutes that are make or break

also worth noting that all it takes is one person to slip up at the wrong time and it's run over

Make sure you don't put the code prematurely and clear charger room ahead of time

[icy cave]

That why it's a more team coordination test level

[dry pumice]

Time management? Not my speciality.

[craggy pier]

Ah well

[tardy ingot]

eh
(Just to compare)
Imo R1D tier (well r1d1) is/was WAAAY easier

R2D tier is also easier. Just more content (imo generally more stuff but not harder)

Never played r3 (yet)

R4D tier D1 was imo easier, but not by much. D2 (pe obviously) was harder but not by too much

R5D tiers… D1 with extreme was harder (but extreme was also shit boring) D2 was comparable i guess? You could fuck up more but the action itself was harder

R6D tiers, D1 and D2 were chill, D3PE is imo easier but not too badly. D4 sameish. DX was eh

So imo its at worst on the harder end of D tier

[icy cave]

Well put it between R4 and R5 D tier

All GTFO Levels tier list video Inc 😂

[tardy ingot]

Yeah

Most of r7e1 isnt „hard“ perma action. But any slip ups can cost you the run. A lot of levels who are seen as harder just have more action heavy tight sequences buf you can be bailed out

Team whipes to the tank on r6d3pe? i can salvage that as a solo defender even sometimes

Someone wipes to a code area room? Good fuck, holding even 2 extra waves kills the run quickly

[tardy ingot]

Id do it

[icy cave]

gonna have to wait for R8

[tardy ingot]

And to play alt r3

[icy cave]

and then do you do alts and OG?

[craggy pier]

I never played original r4/5, I hope they retain the high difficulty that everyone speaks of when re-released

[icy cave]

That's a couple of days of work 😅😅

[tardy ingot]

id check out og r3 maybe
Played everything else (in a way)

[latent obsidian]

I really like R3D1

[fickle mulch]

alt r3 should only take like an hour or two lmao

[latent obsidian]

Beating that for the first time might be the best I felt in GTFO

[tardy ingot]

hardest rundowns for sure. But also not as hard as some people act

Definetly a way bigger hurdle tho for anyone new LOL

[icy cave]

I would say R3 stands above R1

So 4 hours instead of 2

[tardy ingot]

I remember people telling me they took less than 2 hours for alt r1

As someone who wants to speedrun all the levels i must ask, how o.O?

10 min A1
15 min B1
15 min B2
25 min C1
20 min C2
20 min D1

Those would be some quick times of good teams and with some prior knowledge

And thats still 1 hour 45

[latent obsidian]

I mean the people that beat them didn't play R1 before?