gtfo-related-questions

[icy cave]

cause its the same reaason why the R7 reactor is on the only level without Cp

I just know

[neon gust]

i mean it sad but true

[icy cave]

at least it s a positive side effect

[neon gust]

you remove checkpoints suddenly the game its bug free as hell

[icy cave]

that alts have no CP

[neon gust]

barely any

its nice

[icy cave]

proving that the whole game was not built for it and that it was just an afterthought

[neon gust]

pretty much

but it woulda been a lot easier for them to do saferooms that checkpoints but that just my opinion

we got extremely good weaponry and bots and such

and like 3 years worth of guides tutorials and info that people can look up to

so im glad checkpoints wont be on alts

[icy cave]

just do the L4D2 route

[icy cave]

yes

or at least they were not on R1

[neon gust]

if they improve bots a lot more you could potentially beat all the rundowns without issue with 2 and 2 to be honest

[neon gust]

hopefully it wont be in any of the classics

i like my bug free experience

feels like the game runs better without the game loading up the checkpoint door itself kekw

[icy cave]

but is that something good? the game was always meant for 4 players

[icy cave]

I feel it would F the old rundowns so much its just not worth it

[neon gust]

i mean 99% of the things can be done with 2 people, from uplinks to killing mom and tank so having bots that are decent to fill the slots would be pretty good for people, like i woulda love to have bot back when i bought the game with my friend back in r2, woulda reached way further and he would probably still be more down to play the game with me

[neon gust]

i agree

[icy cave]

that is true, altho then you speak mostly of more experienced people

cause this game has its two extremes. the folks who will solo or duo anything. and then the folks who spend 8 hours on R6C1 .........

and for the latter the last thing they need is better bots. They need guidance cause obv something is just not right

[neon gust]

theres always a middle ground, nothing its ever black and white, i play this game casually with my SO and play like a average player would do, having bots just be better at just existing would be a good thing for people filling the last 2 remaining slots of the lobby

[prisma gazelle]

R1D1 - Do we just make a beeline for the apex door?

[icy cave]

yes

[prisma gazelle]

Is there a easy way of dispatching shadows?

[icy cave]

biotracker

[prisma gazelle]

yeah but we got overrun and the sentries did nothing to help

[neon gust]

you gotta keep consistent pings

[icy cave]

sentries only shoot pinged shadows

[prisma gazelle]

we were all low by that point (we tried going to the side rooms for resources but it didnt pan out)

[neon gust]

for the sentry to shoot

[prisma gazelle]

huh. okay.

So are you saying the sentry shouldb ei n the same room as us?

rather than wtaching the door??

[icy cave]

side rooms are not needed. ah straight beeline for apex door is viable

and still be stocked at reactor

[prisma gazelle]

yeah i saw the stock room just before - didnt expec tthat tbh

[icy cave]

ait will be different on R5D1 don't worry

[icy cave]

not denying that.

[neon gust]

Also get you some thermals while you at it

have someone bring a precision rifle in case you biotracker guy its not pinging consistently

[wary linden]

Just leave the Guy with bio Near the entrance... No teamscan in r1d1 for that part with shadows. Gg easy. He ping , shoot a couple of bullets, sentries kill the rest

The level is honestly quite a joke for D tier compare to more recent D tiers

[prisma gazelle]

ohhh okay

so i should just babysit turrets

gotcha

thanks guys

[winged turtle]

this was my experiance

[prisma gazelle]

ill try that tomorrow

they dont spawn in the room with you?

[icy cave]

no

[prisma gazelle]

ok

[wary linden]

Just Guard the tunnel.

[prisma gazelle]

one last question - trying to understand spawns

enemies can only spawn in 1, 2, 3 rooms away?

[icy cave]

2 rooms away is the standard rule

[wary linden]

You can even push Them 1 extra room by standing in the tunnel

[prisma gazelle]

when we say two rooms away, so its like, im here, room 1, room 2, room 3 (spawn)

[wary linden]

And if no sidezones are open... They Spawn so far away it's a joke

[prisma gazelle]

i see

just hada really long run, kinda bummed

[icy cave]

you are in room 1 they will spawn in room 3

[prisma gazelle]

but now that i know that there's a refill room

ill just beeline tomorrow for the apex room

and ill guard the tunnel

thanks!

[icy cave]

and for uplinks its 2 rooms away but locked to the zone of the terminal. so if there is no second room they will spawn in the room next to you

[glass nova]

Is there a way to command bots to foam a door or plant a turret or to go to a certain location?

Like hotkeys for commanding bots

[icy nacelle]

Q, then 1 IIRC.

You should have options there based on what equipment they have, though keep in mind if you tell a bot to foam they'll just fire it from where they're standing so make sure they're actually close to the door.

(If they a C-Foam nade that'll also take priority over using the launcher, and it's not uncommon for them to yeet it into the bloody ceiling or floor.)

[craggy pier]

also make sure there is nothing blocking their line of sight cuz they dont think

[glass nova]

Thank you chads ❤️

[craggy pier]

🫡

[neon gust]

be advise bot using cfoam its based on the bots position

he would not readjust to actually foam the door

so he will 99% of time miss

[wary linden]

Give turrets or bio to bots. Mines can also works but it is annoyingly long

[fallow kettle]

what's the best weapon for killing scouts?

and what's the best weapon for killing charger scouts

[craggy pier]

Precision rifle it 1 taps the scouts to the head plus it has thermal scope so you can snipe it from a far with great visual

Charger scout any shotgun to the back

[fallow kettle]

doesn't a shotgun take two hits to the back?

[craggy pier]

Except hel shotgun and comabt shotgun

[craggy pier]

Regular/choke mode shotgun

[fallow kettle]

kk, what about melee weapons?

bc I know for scout its one to the head with sledge and two to the back with sledge for charger

but how are charger scouts with knives/bats

and is spear usuable against them

also, do sniper sentry shots from other rooms still not wake stuff up?

[craggy pier]

never

[craggy pier]

if its far enough sure but it cant 1 tap charger scouts

[fallow kettle]

kk, so only go after them with Cfoam

[craggy pier]

yes

safest way is cfoam and sledge

[fallow kettle]

how many hits against charger scouts with spear?

2 to the back?

[craggy pier]

yes

also make sure you hit the back correctly

sometimes they twist their backs and end up not counting and mostly gon wake up before you get the 3rd hit in

[fallow kettle]

kk ty

[craggy pier]

any time

[minor fractal]

Wym by this?

[craggy pier]

the arm sometimes gets in the way and it doesnt count as back for some reason

[minor fractal]

That wouldn't matter.

Back damage isn't a hitbox.

[craggy pier]

cost me some crucial c3 runs

[craggy pier]

it sure screwed me

[minor fractal]

As long as you're facing dead ahead, you'll get the full 2x, so you probably were coming from the side.

[craggy pier]

maybe 🤔

[mossy aurora]

It's a positional, not hit box

Back damage isn't for hitting the back, it's for hitting from the back

[soft crater]

sniping a charger scout in the foot from behind be funny

[fallow kettle]

with enough boosters anything is possible

[soft crater]

Eh

[craggy pier]

waste a nice 35% speacial dmg aggresive booster for that

[soft crater]

A sniper from behind for a charger scout will kill it no matter where you hit it.

[fallow kettle]

omfg

the lingering hitbox on the spear has saved me so many fucking times

jesus christ.

i've missed 3 scout heads

flicked and got them

[craggy pier]

😂

[soft crater]

Special damage for sniper is realistically only useful in R6D1

[fallow kettle]

currently playing Scout! by Brandon't

[wispy sage]

Hey I need some help with something which is why I joined the discord

Basically a friend and I played some yesterday and some today

both times we compeleted R1A1 but it didn't count as completed

Im so confused on why we can't progress and do R1B1

[past solstice]

Is there a new weapon stats spreadsheet kicking around anywhere?

[viscid wolf]

its made by people so it'll take some time

[viscid wolf]

hmm i dun know das weird

try R7A1 first to see if that counts toward a completion

[wispy sage]

is R7 after or before R1?

[craggy pier]

after

[wispy sage]

First time playing so idk whats going on

[craggy pier]

they usually remove previous rundowns once a new one is delivered but they decided to bring them back again

[past solstice]

Fair enough. Had seen people quoting numbers here so figured it might've been out already.

[wispy sage]

basically what happens is we ||enter the rundown, progress forward and do the query for the thing and it sends us to room 49, on our way to 49 we have to go either into 46 or 47 and find a key card to open 48, then we go through 48 do the security door for 49 and put the metal egg thing into the chamber and then run back to the start with it and drop it off then when it finishes scanning we get out and then it still says r1b1 is locked||

[craggy pier]

never heard of this before

[wispy sage]

what

[craggy pier]

not getting progress

[wispy sage]

yeah im so confused

like im good with speedrunning the shit out of r1a1 but i want to try other r1 content

[grave crow]

whats a class T alarm?

[winged turtle]

moving scan alarm

[grave crow]

oof

yea, that sucks shit

[silver fable]

That sounds like r7a1

r1a1 doesn't have a baby (i.e. "metal egg thing")

check whether r7b1 is unlocked

[wispy sage]

nope

r7a1 is not complete

[silver fable]

weird

if you got dropped into r7a1 when you tried to load r1a1 then something broke

maybe verify game files using steam?

[silver fable]

are there any numbers in particular you want?

[wispy sage]

wait wtf

i just searched up a video and yeah

that was r7a1 we were doing

huh

but i selected r1a1

Files were all valid

also I just realized something now that I actually managed to get into r1a1

for some reason when i had r1a1 selected and my friend would join the lobby

the number in the top right would change from r1a1 to just a1

ill test this again when he gets back online

[silver fable]

the last level to be known simply as "a1" was r7a1, prior to the alt r1 patch

[wispy sage]

huh

so why didnt i get progress in r7 then

is it cause it marked a1 as complete not r7a1

but if they are the same why would they be different

[wary linden]

they are not the same

[silver fable]

progress in the r7 build of the game transferred over to progress in r7 in the current build

[wispy sage]

IDK

eh now that i know what the problem is hopefully ill actually be able to progress

[lunar rain]

Does anyone have any tips for hitting scouts with melee ?

[silver fable]

approach when the scout is not deployed, but run at it and/or shine light on it to force a deploy before landing the actual hit

that'll fix it in place, and also mitigate against sync jank if you're on client

you still have something like a second and a half between when a tendril goes red and when the scout becomes invulnerable

oh, and if you're using knife or bat, you need to strike back of head with full charge

[soft crater]

Should note. That is directionally behind them and headshot

Being off to the side and knife/bat to head will not count as Back bonus + Headshot

[lunar rain]

Ok, thank you i thought if you touched the little tendrils it just went invulnerable

[silver fable]

keep in mind that scouts aren't sleepers

a lot of things which cause a sleeping enemy to wake up will just cause a scout to deploy

[lunar rain]

Ok, i think it might just be a confidence thing that i have to get used to

[silver fable]

some things that cause sleepers to wake up will also cause a scout to wake up though, e.g. killing a sleeper that's too close to a scout, noises made too close like breaking locks, failing hack locks, bashing your melee weapon against a surface

[lunar rain]

i used a sniper before to take them out from another room but i thought i should learn to melee kill them

[silver fable]

gunshots within I think 50m also? with 20m reduction for each room barrier separating you and the scout

yeah learning to melee scouts is a pretty important step in getting better at gtfo

but if you want to use guns, don't bring a sniper just for scouts

sniper is for downing bigs and putting damage into boss enemies

you can snipe scouts, but you could also just bring a pump or choke shotty

[lunar rain]

there are bosses in this? i only just got the game and beat A1

[silver fable]

there are enemies with significantly larger health pools than the giants you've seen, which people regard as boss-like, yeah

[lunar rain]

Oh, seems like fun

i have only seen sleepers, giants and scouts

[jaunty bear]

With the release of the alt rundowns, there probably will be.

[lunar rain]

so does the pump or shotgun one shot to the head on a scout?

[jaunty bear]

If the previous rundowns are anything to go by.

[jaunty bear]

Yea.

[lunar rain]

ill have to try that out

[silver fable]

you'll have to be pretty close with pump shotty

[jaunty bear]

Its better to learn to melee it, but with

yea pumps gotta be close

[silver fable]

choke shotty can do it from much further away

other guns which can 1shot scouts include the precision rifle and the high cal pistol

[lunar rain]

well thank you for the help and recommendations in killing scouts

[craggy pier]

is choke reliable for killing Cscouts with one shot

I know it has the damage potential

but idk if pellet spread makes back hitboxing funky at all

[craggy pier]

revolver in occiput too

[silver fable]

typically yes

the pellet spread is pretty tight, but you do want to try to be fairly close before you take the shot

something like 5m should be fine

you can definitely get it from further out, but pellet spread might make it dicey

you can also use the fast fire rate to double-shot it from the front

[craggy pier]

ye was aware of that bit, thanks for the other info tho

[silver fable]

yeah I kept it simple by leaving off guns that require occi or multiple hits

[craggy pier]

understandable, but I think it's worth noting for people that do like revolver

[soft crater]

Revolver can 3 shot Charger scouts to the back iirc.

meanwhile High cal can't kill them anymore

[final wagon]

cosmetic related - before character customization was added I always played as hackett in my friend group and I'm really missing my hoodie as I've not been able to get the cosmetic for it yet. I've done every single rundown since cosmetics were added trying to get it (besides optional objectives) I'm wondering if I redo the lvl with optional objectives will I still be able to get another cosmetic after completing it as some have the optional ones as a requirement? on the wiki there's 2 masks that come with a hood, ones hacketts and the other is similar, my friends have got it and I haven't and I'm so depressed I feel cursed

every single rundown I finish I get a 10th color or backpack/mask with no hood ;;

[maiden cypress]

if you havent done any optional objectives then you can get extra if you complete some iirc

[steel valley]

think they removed the optional objective rewards

[final wagon]

aw I hope not, I'll redo every lvl again just to have a chance at getting it if it's possible to get more rewards

[orchid sleet]

is the long fall time a bug?

[wary linden]

Do you mean the loading screen of all 4 players dropping in the elevator shaft?

[orchid sleet]

yeah, except it takes like 6 minutes to load

[wary linden]

If so then unless it is an infinite drop... It is not a bug. Just someone with a shit pc.

You are waiting for the person with bad pc to finish loading

[orchid sleet]

cool, just checking. Thank you

[wary linden]

If you have you fps showing on your hud, you would know when you are done loading. If you get done loading and the drop ends... Then you know people were waiting after you

[neon plaza]

another 10cc moment

[cobalt pollen]

well unless you want to finish r1 and get only 2 rewards, putting secondary and overload rewards into normal clear loot pool is better

[hoary thunder]

Is that hitreg bad, weapon innately unaccurate or mobs have invulnerability sometimes?

[icy cave]

scouts can be invulnerable for a couple seconds when triggered

[narrow dove]

is there any benefit from starting at the top in a rundown if you have more unlocked, or just jump right in again where you are up to? Ive unlocked C1, C2, D1, should i wait for a group to carry on from there, or benefit to starting with someone from A1 again?

[brittle mural]

Possibly just a pretty annoying host-peer issue

[icy cave]

that just depends bruv. you can easily find people for C and D tier. but you can just as easily restart

[narrow dove]

What does Artifact heat relate to?

[viscid wolf]

how much value u get from picking up artifcats

u get more booster progress at higher heat and as u pick up more it go down

[narrow dove]

ty

[minor fractal]

Obviously, you would differentiate the rundown rewards. Shouldn't be that hard to do, just GTFO is getting next to no attention anymore, so they've opted for a system that has a very low development cost.

No idea where anyone gets the idea that the pre-Alt system necessarily will only ever give you 2 rewards for 3 Mains, there's clearly a lot of customization there.

[winged turtle]

heey if i am an R7 baby, and i, ahem try OG R6, will i keep unlocked cosmetics when i re-update?

[wary linden]

no

they broke the system with r7 launch

[winged turtle]

ahh, that makes sense

[minor fractal]

It seems to work fine between R1-R5 and R7 in my experience, probably since the cosmetic system isn't in use.

[icy cave]

R1-R5 works, so you can get some R5 boosters

also altho you won't unlock cosmetics from OG R6, it will also not wipe your stuff from R7

[minor fractal]

Oh, interesting.

In that case, they might have "broken" it on purpose just so that it would track okay if you did that (although probably just a coincidence).

[weary mesa]

Didn't break for any of the previous rundowns, breaks for the one that has cosmetic unlocks tied to progression

Pure coincidence

[icy cave]

you can still play it tho and get completions. just not the cosmetics

[winged turtle]

hell ya! old rundowns here i come! (after r7) lol

[wary linden]

how are you not done with r7 yet

that is quite impressive ngl

[winged turtle]

lol takin my time, my team just got our full r7c2 clear

[wary linden]

you have been here since quite some time now

[winged turtle]

truuuu

but i am also smelly

and like playing early levels with newbies

[icy cave]

he is not tho

[icy cave]

so you did manage guys !

[winged turtle]

oh i am Very Carrry-able lol

[winged turtle]

it only took like 90 minutes for main lol

[icy cave]

Proud of you guys

[viscid wolf]

PE u go!

[winged turtle]

me too! my team is getting way better and i am probably the anchor at this point!

i have a lot to work on and i am excited to!

i would like a C7 clear tho lol

[icy cave]

Now: C3PE

[winged turtle]

RIP

oh right you don't do mains 🤣

[icy cave]

you guys can do it

[icy cave]

nah it makes no sense

[winged turtle]

do you have plans Tuesday night? 👀

[icy cave]

🤣

[winged turtle]

you miss 100% of the shots you don't take 🤣

[glad pike]

I've missed a lot of chances with girls then. Chances? You had no chance.

[icy cave]

yep you did

[glad pike]

It was 100% miss either way bro. I was better off not taking the shots

[icy cave]

and THAT there is the wrong mentality

don't worry it'll get better

[turbid seal]

Quick question.
How quick do Bug Forums get viewed?

[weary mesa]

Viewed don’t know. Bug fixes never

[glad pike]

I don't like lying to myself

[icy cave]

meaby you are right now. just sayin

[craggy pier]

how many hits does it take to break a door with cfoam

or does anyone have a link to a video or wiki explaining the heath/hits

[spark wolf]

you can put 9 blobs on the door

and thats 9 hits

anything over 9 gets wasted

[craggy pier]

ik that

[spark wolf]

and you can reaply as much as you want

[craggy pier]

i mean to break cfoam but not the door

so i can open it

[spark wolf]

thats bugged

it wont work most the time

[craggy pier]

;/

damn

[fallow kettle]

how much stam does slide cancelling save you when running?

[viscid wolf]

not significant

[spark wolf]

23% if optimal

[fallow kettle]

ty

[narrow dove]

do i lose progress on the R1 if i swap to the R7 rundown

[weary mesa]

no

[narrow dove]

do you get access to secondary once you've completed all the other Mains?

[minor fractal]

Secondary is within a level

You can access Secondary in any level with a Secondary.

Not all levels will have optional objectives.

[narrow dove]

ah, so R1 doesnt have any

[dry pumice]

Yes.

[craggy pier]

does anyone know the id distribution for aR1B1

doing a solo rn and idk if i have them all

only found 2 in the whole left part of the map

[turbid horizon]

Huh that shouldn’t be right

Iirc there are a few security doors you have to go through

[craggy pier]

i did

i only found 2 in the last room separated by a room divider on the staircase

nothing in any other room

i mean i can clear all 3 wings

but kinda malding

[turbid horizon]

Even terminal list commands found nothing?

[craggy pier]

solo no bots and im beaten by my blindness

[turbid horizon]

LIST ID E_[zone number]

Idk if you did this but that should help

[viscid wolf]

i thinks its randomly distributed

[turbid horizon]

That much??

[viscid wolf]

its bound to happen sometimes

[spark wolf]

it spawns 18 with 3 max per zone

[craggy pier]

😔

scouts here i come

[turbid horizon]

The left side is 2 zones, right?

[spark wolf]

yes

so there should be at least 3

[turbid horizon]

oh and the other sides are 3 and 3

[craggy pier]

welp i have 2 left to find and unexplored top zone

fun tim

e

getting flashbacks from last run when i choked on 11/12

[turbid horizon]

😔

[craggy pier]

got licked through solid cover

true gtfo experience

[soft crater]

[turbid horizon]

Been happening to me as host recently but the rest of my crew haven’t been noticing it

[soft crater]

Gotta love when you're dummy thicc and a part of you is actually still in the open

[turbid horizon]

The place where I noticed it the most is getting big tongued through the first blood door wall on D2

[craggy pier]

well lucky for me there were 2 in the scout wing

solo done

thanks gamers

[turbid horizon]

[craggy pier]

did the 2nd class 3 for no reason

gamer move

[bright patio]

anyone know how to list the partical decoders in R1C2?

[craggy pier]

list pd I think

[silk raft]

Returning player question, what melee weapon is recommended, I've been trying spear but it feels inconsistent compared to old mallet at least

not sure if I should go back to the mallet equivalent

[earnest compass]

when were fog repellers added?

[viscid wolf]

yis sledge is much better!

[viscid wolf]

i think R1 or R2

[earnest compass]

ahh ty, yeah i don't know if i've found them at alt r1

do you know when the syringes were added?

[vernal wraith]

Is there is halloween event?

I saw soemone post LFG for A1 halloween mask,

[verbal zinc]

R3

[earnest compass]

ooooh ty

[craggy pier]

@shadow flower as more rundowns are added, will we see more weapons returning until they're all available? or will some weapons be taken out? Or will there be different weapon sets for each rundown?

[shadow flower]

There is no plan right now to remove weapons, but it can change of the balance becomes totally whack

[narrow dove]

is R7A1 difficult? can it be done with 2 or 3? struggling for players joining R7A1

[craggy pier]

2 or 3 with bots is fine

[dry pumice]

It's super easy, you can probably even solo it.

Bots will be good enough.

It's just no one is playing, that simple.

[icy cave]

It's an A1 sooooooooo

[wary linden]

"A1" more like A0

[minor fractal]

Unironically, R8 can be R5 difficulty now that we have R1 permanently.

Not every rundown has to on-board new players.

and R1 has a very nice difficulty curve for inexperienced players in specific, since most of the ramp is superficial if you know what you're up to.

[hoary vine]

Is each rundown typically a scouting run and then a successful run?

[fallow kettle]

best weapon to kill charger giants?

[alpine steppe]

R1C1 needs some huge brain plays though

[icy cave]

we can only hope Ray

[viscid wolf]

sniper in bacc

[icy cave]

not really tho

[minor fractal]

Find walkway, shoot gun.

[icy cave]

no you can easily finish them on first run if you have experience in the game

[alpine steppe]

i was doing it with 1 other person

[turbid horizon]

scattergun my beloved

[hoary vine]

Equipment wise

[icy cave]

still. ray's strat just up here still holds

[minor fractal]

Depends on if you die or not. A generalist loadout can handle the vast majority of the levels, but if you wipe you can adjust if you feel it would be valuable.

[icy cave]

you will never be locked from a level completion cause you have the wrong equipment

[hoary vine]

Hmmm

[icy cave]

it might be harder but not impossible

[minor fractal]

^ You don't really "need" the perfect loadout, it's just nice to have.

[hoary vine]

Like the one with a moving security scanning slowly moving up

In B rundown

[icy cave]

yes also that one

[hoary vine]

I had to swap out bio for an extra Burst sentry

[icy cave]

and you mean B tier, rundown is the whole campaign. in this case probably R7

[icy cave]

yes and you could have done it with the bio. would just have been harder

you could even do it without sentries

[minor fractal]

Yeah, that's like 80-90% shooting skill, and I'd personally ditch C-foam over bio.

[neon gust]

In shooting we trust 🤲

[hoary vine]

Not that good enough😔

[icy cave]

basically 😅

[hoary vine]

Kept getting cucked on the finally staircase

[icy cave]

don't worry it'll come. as a rule of thumb just bring one of each for a new level.

[hoary vine]

Because gun did not shoot fast enough

Was problem

[icy cave]

and if you really can;t make it then change appropriatly

[hoary vine]

Yea i did that

To the fast firing SMG thing

[minor fractal]

Probably a mistake in understanding weapon roles.

Your Mains are good for the team all fighting together.

But your special weapons are by far most of your damage.

[hoary vine]

Hmm

[dry pumice]

Btw I'm starting to get confused by this

[minor fractal]

If you're actually under pressure, your Main should not be your goto

[neon gust]

special for killing, main its your back up

[minor fractal]

You want your Main for sustained fire or if your mag is dry on the Special.

[hoary vine]

I need to wave clear just in case I get cornered

[dry pumice]

When do you use main and when special, provided they serve similar functions?

[hoary vine]

I think they shouldn't

[dry pumice]

I got trapped of playing pistol + high cal pistol

[neon gust]

combat shotgun, any machinegun

[dry pumice]

And it's very weird

I just have 2 pistols

Same range and all

[hoary vine]

Hmmm

[neon gust]

they dont serve the same purpose

[dry pumice]

One deletes enemies, the other spams

[neon gust]

lmao

[hoary vine]

Machine gun has a slight charge up time right?

[neon gust]

yep

[hoary vine]

Hmm

I used the slug shotgun before

[neon gust]

chokemod you mean?

[hoary vine]

Was good against flying targets

Yea

[spark wolf]

dont spam combat shotgun

i'll castrate you

[hoary vine]

I try to not spam

[spark wolf]

it kills one dude per shot

[neon gust]

this aint rundown 5 anymore

[hoary vine]

Wjat

It does💀

[spark wolf]

the only thing that suck about combat shotgun now compared to true R1 is the blood on ur screen

[neon gust]

he means that you have to get close to get 1 consistent oneshots one enemies

[hoary vine]

Yea i understand that

What is R1

[neon gust]

rundown 1

[hoary vine]

Hmmm

Oh yea the first one

[neon gust]

its useless old people data

[hoary vine]

Took me and my friends 7 hours💀

[neon gust]

remember a bunch of us here been playing for 2 years straight so mothafuckas gonna be remembering "the good old days" even tho the game its better now

[hoary vine]

Hmmm

Fucking up favorite is still my part about this game

[neon gust]

its normal

when its alarm time you just shoot

dont worry about ammo

[hoary vine]

It's pretty fun to heard my friends screaming

[neon gust]

95% of the time theres an ammopack in the next zone

[hoary vine]

Hmm

I see

[neon gust]

you can verify this by just going into the terminal

and see whats on the next zone

[hoary vine]

Oh right

Terminals

[neon gust]

so you'll reasure yourself that if you get past the alarm theres resources

lemme guess you skip the terminals

[hoary vine]

Nono

I don't use them

My friend does the terminal shit

[neon gust]

learn it

easy part of the game and it saves you so much time

[hoary vine]

I did use it a few times

[gloomy mesa]

Is the final wave on a rundown finite?

[icy cave]

depends what level you talk abouty

[icy cave]

if you don't know how to use terminals you simply can NOT get good at this game.

[hoary vine]

Hmmm

I see

I did use them a couple of time to see shit

[gloomy mesa]

Ah sorry this was R1A1, just getting into it with some buddies and they asked about that

[icy cave]

that one is infinite

[craggy pier]

Hey guys. I saw that GTFO is 20€ rn and Im thinking of buying it? Is it worth it and can someone teach me?

[wise thicket]

Go for it. Right now is a good time because. They are re adding the old rundowns

[winged turtle]

and experianced players hop onto #lfg-beginners to teach newbies pretty consistently

[icy cave]

he would know

[winged turtle]

hmm i think there are extremes that create exceptions, do you think a dream team (you, skill issue man, ect (but not Fireblade)) could do R7C3 with all knives?

granted, there are a LOT more foam mines than i thought there would be

[icy cave]

yes

but it would suck big time

[winged turtle]

bhahaha but check-point-less? 🧐

[icy cave]

hmmmmmm

with enough time yes

[latent obsidian]

you can probably just focus down limbs as a team to stagger lock giants still right?

Once you have an order to destroy them in it would be okay

[icy cave]

once a limb is broken tho....

[icy cave]

yeah it would be doable honestly. but worth it ???

doubt

[latent obsidian]

Well it only takes 2 knife back hits to kill a limb so if you wanted 2 guys could destroy limbs at intervals while the other 2 just poured damage somewhere else (not the chest so you can keep breaking limbs)

Only need 12 full charged hits to kill it

Not saying it would be fun, but perfectly doable from stealth in theory. Only problem is when stuff gets alerted

[winged turtle]

ooph

[wary linden]

It's not hard. It's just time consuming

There are more then enough c-foam mines/grenade to cfoam every single giants/hybrids/scouts in all the zones

Hence it just become time consuming more then anything

The rest of the level doesn't matter because gun go brrr... AND you can skip armory to begin with

[craggy pier]

ive noticed quite an oddity while solo stealthing rooms

the first enemy i bonk wakes up another

but then the woken up enemy doesnt seem to cause a chain reaction

i kill him and nothing

do awake enemies not follow the same rule of waking up nearby/glowing enemies on kill

[sturdy glen]

Theres a cd for waking up from kills basically

[craggy pier]

that explains it

[sturdy glen]

walking, flashlight, screams etc will still wake other stuff

but actually smacking the enemy will not for a couple seconds after an enemy wakes from either being nearby or glowing and seeing you fuck their friend up

[craggy pier]

ironically i only learn this now

[sturdy glen]

you can take advantage of this once you figure out how it works but its not super useful except for solo play or like

dense difficult rooms

[craggy pier]

well i managed to solo r6 without this knowledge

🤔

good to know for future

does this cooldown also apply if i were to manually wake up one enemy then kill him

[winged turtle]

what does cd mean in this context?

oh cool down duh

[craggy pier]

i can only blame new rundowns giving me too much ammo so i never needed to learn stealth mechanics

[sturdy glen]

I dont think so, but idk for sure since ive never tried it

[craggy pier]

literally faster and more consistent to shoot some rooms

[sturdy glen]

afaik its only from aggroing an enemy by killing a diff one

yeah thats how most ppl play lmao

its really not necessary because by the point you would learn about it youre probably pretty good at the game and no longer would use it

aka you either blast everything up or smash the whole room with your buds

[craggy pier]

well thats the problem

all my friends hate this game

[sturdy glen]

same 👍

[craggy pier]

and i dont have the patience for bots

any idea how long the cooldown is?

[sturdy glen]

its not super long

maybe 5-10 seconds

I tried pushing it yesterday night while fucking around and it didnt feel long enough to like

do it on purpose then just smash whatever till it runs out

I hate the bots but sometime I just want to play and not bother finding a room

[craggy pier]

well another issue is that team play kind of makes the game too easy

[sturdy glen]

game doesnt have to be hard for me to have fun, I like banter so im sad my friends quit

[craggy pier]

actually i do have another gtfo related question

since i started soloing aR1B2 with no prior knowledge

in the room with 2 class 3s do i need to do both

[sturdy glen]

no

ones a fake out

they do that a lot

same with the class 4s later, though they both need keys only 1 has the hsu in it

[spark wolf]

its not a cooldown

[craggy pier]

Is soloing a viable way to play for the first few areas?

[spark wolf]

you can kill an already awake enemy it won't wake anything

no cooldown involved

[sturdy glen]

damn really?

[craggy pier]

not really if youre new

[sturdy glen]

if youre trying to learn id say no, bots wont really save you and also make some mechanics kinda misleading

but you can generally clear A and B tier with bots

without much trouble

[spark wolf]

there's a cooldown for the screams

its not rly worth to go out of your way to abuse it most the time

but its nice to know about so that lets say a scream just happened you know you can be a lil more aggressive with no repercussion

and additional knowledge that will barely ever help you, only the first scream of each enemy has the ability to wake up a room

if they have already screamed before they can no longer wake up any room

[sturdy glen]

interesting, that second part I didnt know

[winged turtle]

which is why sometimes a wave can come from rooms you haven't cleared and those rooms won't wake up

[wary linden]

We don't need more exploit to be known. It will turn into abuse like door cheese

[lost flame]

When i activate the reactor at the end of R1D1, does anything special happen? is it just big scawy alarm and i just run back to the exit?

[craggy pier]

you will need to do bunch of scan circles then u can extract

there will be a shadow alarm tho so look out

[lost flame]

gotcha, thanks

[craggy pier]

np

[muted shadow]

Shadow extraction alarm, so be aware, be prepared!

[marsh epoch]

Do we know when R2 will be released?

[winged turtle]

hmmm this is a pretty niche technique, and it means being in the middle of sleepers. the comparison you made is pretty extreme, i think understanding this level of detail is pretty healthy

[timid rampart]

I assume bots are completely useless against things like tanks and mothers and just shoot at the non-weak spots, yeah?

so if I'm soloing w/ bots a level, I have to solo any tanks or mothers

[strange sun]

Against mothers they can shoot weak spots fine, a bit of random luck. Against tanks... since you can't get bots to hold position, they follow you... so getting behind the tank to shoot it is an absolute pain.

Best bet I found is to slap down 2 sniper turrets then you+bots get the tank between you and the turrets so turreta can shoot its back. The tank might occasionally try to hide or turn to face the turrets to block them, letting you all shoot its back.

[frosty rose]

roughly how long does it take to complete R7D2?

[minor fractal]

30 mins

[wary linden]

This can be abuse with your friend pablo :)

[leaden briar]

really depends

I've seen the 6 min speed run so

but if you do it normally with one stealth 20-30

[spark wolf]

pablo moment

[craggy pier]

me and a group of my buddies are just starting the game for the first time, is it recommended to start with rundown 1 alt? or should we do rundown 7? or do we try to find an old version and play the first verison of rundown 1 i can't seem to find much online so like, not sure how this game is meant to be played

[vital sierra]

should do r1 first

[craggy pier]

alt or normal?

[mossy aurora]

Play alt, the game is much different now than the normal r1

[neon gust]

You dont wanna play on shitty builds neither :^)

[vital sierra]

[neon gust]

You know what

We both gonna play this

Till the end of the year

So fuck you

Yo mama

[craggy pier]

Short question. I'm new to the game. How long do i have to wait until user's join? : o

[patent birch]

You can choose between alt and normal on R1?

[craggy pier]

no i think you have to download older versions as far as im aware

[wary linden]

ALT R1 isn't OG R1

but it act as the in game R1... they basically brought it back and made minor ajustments in the levels

next one will be ALT R2 in [insert time here]

[vital sierra]

it also played the same

[nimble summit]

Source for that info?

No R2 before the end of the year?

[vital sierra]

just wait until the end of the month first

[nimble summit]

The discount ends on the 1st of November, are you implying they'd release R2 either today or at the beginning of the next week?

[vital sierra]

not really

[nimble summit]

Then what is the special thing that I should wait for until the end of the month first?

[vital sierra]

but they do drop new rundown without announcing it not like the old day

[fickle mulch]

i wouldnt really consider r6 to be the old days tbh

[vital sierra]

i mean pre r6

[dapper nimbus]

Kinda L if it takes them more than one month to re-release old rundowns

[icy cave]

Normal R1 is still there

[icy cave]

Use LFG channels otherwise waiting time is infinite

[wooden osprey]

alt is the normal one

it only has some tiles changed

and hybirds in a level

[mossy aurora]

the original guy meant og r1 by "normal r1"

[wooden osprey]

Than its a a No.

[icy cave]

Wut you on bruv ofc you can

[wooden osprey]

trying to not get banned again xd

[icy cave]

ts ts ts

[mossy aurora]

why would you get banned? regardless, if he is a new player, he shouldn't play the og r1 anyways

[vital sierra]

my man still in 2020

[neon gust]

What info?

[nimble summit]

For the info that we'll be playing R1 until the end of the year.

[neon gust]

I didntnsay that

I was refering to some bs me and alpha are doing

[nimble summit]

Oh.

[neon gust]

:]

[neon gust]

Stop exagerating

[wooden osprey]

why are you replying to that now?

tf

[gleaming wharf]

do you get the haloween gas mask for literally ANY expedition

[narrow dove]

how do i tell the bots to place their sentries

[latent obsidian]

press q and then I think its option one and you can choose what tool you want someone to use

[craggy pier]

first option

[latent obsidian]

I think you need to scroll through the options with mouse wheel so you hover over the one you want and then you'll get an indicator for a sentry or mine

[patent birch]

Beat me to it

Yeah you hold Q then middle mouse on “Deploying Tools” It’ll say something like “Deploy Sentry Gun [Dauda] or something

[dry pumice]

Your commands are on hold?

There is a setting to switch the command window to tap mode.

Csgo style.

So you just go Q > 2 > 1 or whatever it is.

Q43

[patent birch]

Wait you dont gotta hold it?

Ive always just held Q

Oh nevermind the setting, im fine with holding Q, I prefer it

[dry pumice]

Do be mindful that if you press Q while charing melee - the melee will strike.

Had too many accidents with that.

[steep onyx]

Can u rejoin the expedition if u left it?

[craggy pier]

if its still going yes

[dry pumice]

If there are players left then yes.

[latent obsidian]

If the session instance is still active, then the answer is yes.

[dry pumice]

If you was the last player to leave - that kills the session for good.

[steep onyx]

does the game gets harder the more players are in it? i mean if im gonna play duo with my friend , will it be as hard as if we we're playing squad?

[viscid wolf]

noh

its designed around 4 people

so its gonna be 4 times harder as a solo

[steep onyx]

i see

[craggy pier]

How can i mark stuff with my C thing launcher

[viscid wolf]

hold left click until u see the bar go up then release!

[craggy pier]

What is the name of it?

I've got the bio tracker

Is this correct?

[viscid wolf]

cfoam launcher

o are u asking how to mark people with the bio tracker

u mark moving enemies and see sleeping ones

so if theres any red dots on ur bio then u can scan it by left clicking

[neon gust]

Aparently the ejacu word its forbidden

Cfoam launcher glue people on the ground

Biotrscker marks them

[soft crater]

Imean foam used to be shiny and white

Now it's a off white green-yellow and it isnt shiny anymore

[dry pumice]

So let me get this straight: secondary objectives will not provide apparel ever again?

[median forge]

I do hope there are cosmetics for completing PEs and stuff like that

[icy cave]

you and me both bruv

[steep onyx]

around how much time it takes to do 1 expedition ?

[minor fractal]

That super depends.

[minor fractal]

Smaller and easier expeditions are 30m-45m, harder or larger expeditions are closer to 1-1.5hrs, and very rarely you'll have a marathon expedition that's 2-3hrs

[steep onyx]

if my friend we're to have to rejoin, can i pause the game for that or smthing?

[minor fractal]

Wym?

[steep onyx]

or can he even rejoin to the game?

[minor fractal]

You can join levels mid-game.

including rejoining.

[steep onyx]

i see

[carmine lintel]

yo, can is there a way to list all of the items in a zone 49a?

[wooden osprey]

list e_49

or list zone_49

it will list everything inside the zone

[wooden osprey]

.

[carmine lintel]

what about a specific room inside a zone

[wooden osprey]

what do you need inside the zone?

like resources

a item

or what

[carmine lintel]

i mean i know for list zone_49, butr just wondering if i can list all of the items in a specific room inside the zone

[craggy pier]

yes you can except misc items

[wooden osprey]

don't remember how

cause its mostly useless

[carmine lintel]

i see thanks

[craggy pier]

np

[dry pumice]

If the rooms are separated like 49a / 49b or something - you probably can. Try it, maybe it'll work.
If it wont - then there is no way.

[trail roost]

Is there a way to stack refill kits? For example I have a medkit with 2 uses and find one with 3, is there a way to combine those?

[craggy pier]

nope

thats the fun

[dry pumice]

Unfortunately no. Devs intentionally went against it as the ability to stack kits would be too convenient and make resource management too easy (to be precise - there would be no "management").
If you a found a smaller kit, and nobody can carry it - consider just burning it on whoever needs it, take your old kit back and move on.

[trail roost]

Guess that makes sense, thanks.

[nimble summit]

There isn't a way, however you could do "LIST RESOURCES ZONE_49" and then go "QUERY ITEMTYPE_123" through each item in the list to see which room they are located in.

[carmine lintel]

Thanks

[weary mesa]

Pretty sure that doesn't show what subzone they're in, only ping does

[jagged shore]

^

no way to filter by area yeah

[floral acorn]

query door_xxx, shows room letter

assets usually sorted closest-first, list door e_xx, query last door of list.. for one

[icy cave]

Ping tells you the room AND shows you exactly where

[wooden osprey]

perhaps you should check the ppl at #gtfo-technical-support

[hollow parrot]

oh, sorry about that

[signal hatch]

Hey wondering if someone could help with an issue. me and some friends got the game to play together and one of us has had issues when playing together. there's times where he doesn't exit the stasis pod. and just goes up with it. and recently on R7B2"DENSE" same guy has issues where well start a match things seem fine then we hit the first terminal and zone 123 security door and in that vicinity every time enemy corpses don't drop or dissolve on his end he loses ability to access terminals and doors don't open for him even if he is the one to activate the door. yet the rest of us see bodies dissolving and doors open and we can pass through while he cant has anyone else encountered these kind of issues.

[fringe trellis]

if its my first time playing this rundown can i joing any mission or only ones i have unlocked

[viscid wolf]

any!

as long as they have it unlocked

[fringe trellis]

ok thanks ive played in the past but its been a bit lol

[viscid wolf]

enjoys ur run!

[primal tide]

Why was the mallet, maul, and gavel removed from the game?

[rigid sinew]

The knife, bat and spear where added

alongside a static, final sledgehammer

[violet jungle]

i want the maul back

[fleet folio]

hello there is it possible to join a lobby without completing the required level before it?

[craggy pier]

yes

[fleet folio]

through lobby

id ?

[icy cave]

Yes

[fleet folio]

thanks

[icy cave]

but keep in mind it will not unlock deeper levels for you. You will recieve completion, but the levels will remain locked until you do the early ones

[fleet folio]

alright

[icy cave]

Ah and make sure the team is ok with it

[viral tulip]

btw, how some people are able to ping the floor? I can only ping lockers/gates/....

[icy cave]

Mods, it's not allowed in lfg games on this discord

[viral tulip]

thx

[brittle mural]

You're free to use them on private servers though

[narrow dove]

whats the best melee to take down Giants solo?

is it always best to hit big enemies in the back of head for most damage?

[craggy pier]

Spear the safest approach but hammer is the real deal

[craggy pier]

Yes

[narrow dove]

can you 1 shot a giant with hammer in back of head?

[craggy pier]

No

But with an IX syringe you can it boosts your melee dmg 3x

For a short period of time so make sure you hit him asap

[narrow dove]

so its a group activity when it comes to giants

[craggy pier]

Yes

You can solo a giant but its very likely it will wake up the whole room

[dry pumice]

Yep. Grt everyone behind to get that back stab damage, hammer / spear user initiates with a hit to the back of the head and the rest jump in to finish the job.

With good enough coordination the giants can die on the first sync attack.

If it survives - aim for the limbs with fully charged attacks, they stagger as limbs get destroyed / popped.

[devout cargo]

does the charger scout take multiple c foam grenades?

[dry pumice]

No, only 1.

Direct hit.

[craggy pier]

1 cfoam nade will freeze him tho it sometimes go right through him so watch out

[dry pumice]

If it didn't work - you missed or it went through him (happens more often than you think)

Try to not full charge it.

Just approach it and casually smear it across its' face

[devout cargo]

will do, sounds kinda sus but thank you for the answers!

[floral acorn]

if in doubt, foam floor, cscout walks on coom and shrieks like a sissy

[rigid sinew]

[craggy pier]

do enemies always spawn from the same room on aR1C1

reactor that is

[latent obsidian]

I think they always try to spawn 2 rooms away from you towards spawn, but if you stand at spawn they probably appear at spawn on top of you

[lost flame]

Is c-foam "portion" from the boosters the amount you can shoot at once, or the maximum ammo?

[pearl badger]

if you full charge with 50% portion, you use 10% instead of 20% ammo

try to make sense of it

[lost flame]

ah

[dry pumice]

From what I observed it simply increases ammo efficiency. You shoot same amount of Cfoam, but use way less ammo.

Probably was made that way because imagine someone stacking 50% more Cfoam portion and then fully charging for a door.

At which point Cfoam portion makes no fucking sense for description.

Unless it does change the amount but I just can't fucking see it.

[minor hornet]

I'm considering buying the game soon, I would like to ask one aspect of this game. How is the progression system and how would you describe it?

[craggy pier]

reasonable

[lost flame]

as in your rewards for completing, or how things change and get harder? elaborate on "progression system"

for completing levels your reward is more or less just drip, experience and boosters

but the gameplay is great, its rather tactical, its mostly environmental horror that your average joe can handle, and its great in both the "loud" and "stealth" aspect as well as teamplay

[maiden basalt]

Has the desync issue been fixed? The last update I saw about it was in August

[minor hornet]

Yeah, I mean the rewards, thanks for the answer 🙂

How does the lfg channel work?

[lost flame]

the desync issues have been here since the original R1 and still persists to this day, there are many desync issues, you'll have to narrow down on which

[lost flame]

#how-to-matchmake

it tells you about matchmaking but also LFG

[maiden basalt]

Enemy location desync

[lost flame]

that has been here since the game released, and i dont mean officially

(that i recall at least, its at least an issue thats been present for a long time)

i imagine its a hard cookie to crack, given that its one of the more major issues and has been a thing for so long

[maiden basalt]

Yeah, the last time my group played it was pretty bad so we had been waiting for it to improve a little before playing again

[lost flame]

the best solution to fix that is to have the one with the best internet and whoever is closest to everyone host

[lost flame]

make sure the host fits the bellow mentioned critera, as the reason for desync like this is almost always the host

[raw pecan]

why can i not use a medipack on myself? i'm pressing left click, right click, shift click, whatever but i can't heal myself with it?

[lost flame]

you're told by the game to use E

if you're holding the medipack

[muted shadow]

Is this game on a cloud save?

[wary depot]

So I just recently got back into GTFO after seeing alt rundown 1 was released but I still seem to be on rundown 7 is there a specific way to switch to 1 or do I have to finish 7 to move to 1?

[dry pumice]

When you start the game you'll see 7, uh... Circles? In front of you, with 2 of them white and the rest greyed out.
You need to press the one that has ALT/RUNDOWN1 next to it, its usually the left one.

[mossy aurora]

c-foam portion booster doesnt increase tool efficiency if you don't full charge, single blob shots will still take the same, only full charge amount gets reduced, i dont know why

[dry pumice]

wha~

that's stupid

goddammit, this game is... unfinished

[glad pike]

hahahah-ave you met this game?

[spark wolf]

not only full charge

but there's rounding

so it wont ever save anything on 1 blob

because it has to pick between costing 1 blob or being free

and it not gonna be free

[mossy aurora]

Oh that's how it works?

I wonder why they didn't make it so it can still cost like .5 of a blob

[kindred pulsar]

are boosters team wide or individual

[craggy pier]

Whole team gets rewarded but the use is individual

[kindred pulsar]

thanks!

[craggy pier]

np

[marsh epoch]

Is there any difference between secondary and overload bulkheads?

[craggy pier]

they are areas with optional objectives, they are hard and can make the rest of the level harder

[minor fractal]

Overload is intended to be much harder than Secondary.

[ocean spindle]

if i join a game loby in a voice chat here, i guess i need to have a mic unmuted, right? or can i use like ingame chat and be muted here?

[dry pumice]

No. They are simply optional objectives. They however tend to have specific theme with them.
The Secondary Objective is usually just that. You get it done and that's it. Tends to provide like 20 minutes extra gameplay time.
Overload however, following its' name tends to have a long lasting effects on the rest of the level making it harder across the board.

I.e. activating infinite weak alarms following you through the rest of the level, spreading fog, making enemies stronger, etc.

[grizzled widget]

poll:

how long would it take you and a friend (duo) to kill 2 tanks (at the same time, ala r7e1's blood door)

3-4 mins

5-6 mins

7-8 mins

9-10 mins

[dry pumice]

Definitely within 5 minutes range. 7+ minutes? Either we are already dead or we are kiting like madmen. And i'm not a kiter, so...

[minor fractal]

Had to think about it for a bit before I remembered I've done this multiple times for D2.

In the static especially, it's probably a less than 2 minute fight.

[grizzled widget]

against two tanks as 2-man?

that is very impressive

[minor fractal]

E1 is a bit harder because the terrain sucks

[grizzled widget]

how long would that fight take you?

[minor fractal]

but D2 it's a super easy fight when pulling first room, just DPS.

Dunno, we always did it 3-man.

And we were playing really conservatively as well.

P sure it always took less than 5 minutes, though.

PuG experience on that fight is wild, though, holy cow.

R6D3 tank fights with the right group were pretty fast as well, but that's just double sniper things.

[dry pumice]

I got carried through E1 by some veterans, but from what i remember our 2-tank fight took like a minute or something.

I remember that we hid on some... balconies, can i call them?, on the opposite sides, the tanks barged in and then i just played a game of peekaboo with them:

• take HCP shot at a tumor
• duck to dodge a bite
• the other guy presumably does the same on his side
• back to step 1 and rinse and repeat

And i do remember that there were only 2 of us while the other 2 moved forward to do other objectives.

The tanks just stood between turning back and fourth to try and take a bite.

[neon gust]

Sniper just takes your time down significantly

7 shots kekw

[silver fable]

2tank + pablo duo has been a recurring fact of life during e1 duos

if pablo doesn't get in the way too much sub-3mins is pretty practical

but it's an awkward fight because pablo's pathing is a weird modification of tank pathing and he can be stubborn about not switching focus, so getting pushed or surrounded at random can throw off the fight or down one of us

also because I make bad decisions often because I'm bad at the game

this is using double choke shotty, because there's no waveclear in e1

[kindred pulsar]

how do you guys deal with 2 or more of the big dudes next to each other, my group always ends up waking at least 1 up

[wary linden]

you want his aggro? just shoot it once. his aggro changes almost instantly to the person who shot him

[silver fable]

except sometimes it doesn't

believe me, I shoot pablo routinely

[wary linden]

you have a teammate that is looking at him still 🙂

[craggy pier]

for me at least, usually when i see two giants they're not too close but also not super far, yknow?
so what me and my friend do is we sneak behind one of them really carefully and charge up at the same time and BAM!!! hit its back and/or head
and if for some reason it doesnt die from just that,
we melee it maybe once or twice more (not necessarily fully charged) and then its dead
at least in the event that the other giant wakes up, then we just attack it as a team and fire at its head and stuff and it goes down pretty quickly

hope that helps at least a bit but yeah, thats what i try and do at least with my team
usually its the strikers/shooters around the giants that are more annoying and tend to wake the giants up

good luck in the future :)

[silver fable]

yeah this may be an aspect of it

[wary linden]

he aggro to people looking at him

[kindred pulsar]

hmm really, every time weve tried to melee it doesnt kill

[craggy pier]

are you directly behind them?

[kindred pulsar]

does it have to be back of the head? and you dont need to jump or anything right

[craggy pier]

in my event i didnt need to jump but i did stand
as for the back of the head im not 100% sure but its probably good to be safe

[silver fable]

three full charged back hits from hammers will kill a giant

[craggy pier]

but if you try and hit the back from the side, it wont count

[silver fable]

or six full charged front hits

[obtuse vale]

Most things can't live without a head

[silver fable]

or an occi hit, a back hit and a front hit

[craggy pier]

shooters cant live without a head, so if you are able to hit the giants head if its the shooter variant, that would kill it right?

or does it not like.. behead it

[wary linden]

option 1: clear the rest of the room first... then kill them however you want
option 2: 2-2 split, aim for the limbs at an interval with your partner to chain stagger the giants... so you can tackle both at once

[kindred pulsar]

arms count? or just legs

were kinda new

[wary linden]

arms, legs, head

ofc knife isn't recommended for option 2

[craggy pier]

i think on the GTFO fandom wiki there are also different strats it mentions too on how to kill giants

[silver fable]

there's even a torso component that can break for a stagger

[kindred pulsar]

i think all of us run hammer generally except for me sometimes i run baton

[craggy pier]

under their pages

[kindred pulsar]

ooo thanks

basically said the same thing the above guy said

[craggy pier]

ah ok welp LMAO

[kindred pulsar]

this staggering method seems funny, i can def see us failing this over and over

will probably give it a few tries

[craggy pier]

99% sure the answer is no, but theres no option or any sort of mechanic for there to be a marker put on exactly where the item you're pinging is, right?
for example, if i pinged KEY_GREEN_123 and that was an actual thing
theres no option for the game to have a marker on the locker its in?
i assume not to add to the difficulty of the game, but looking for stuff that typically blends in like the HSUs is reallllyyy time consuming and i guess also boring for me at least since i only play with one other person so we have half the people looking
so im not sure if i missed it and if there is something like that, but yea just wonderin

[wary linden]

terminal are your friends

[craggy pier]

ye ye

i mean the terminal says what zone its in

but not exactly where im sure

[tacit zealot]

Says the area as well

[craggy pier]

ah damn, i didnt even realize
thanks!

[wary linden]

people don't read

[craggy pier]

yeahhh i tend to skim over things sometimes without realizing lmfao
but ill def be sure to pay more attention next time

[brittle mural]

Its just about where to direct your eyes at when looking for stuff in the terminal

[primal goblet]

are there places that has like a scout near the start for practising.... knife scout kill?

[rancid zealot]

R7 C1 in zone 23 has quite a few

[kindred pulsar]

so, is there no other content atm after r1 and r7?

[viscid wolf]

ur gonna have to wait a few months sowwy

[kindred pulsar]

ok

all good

[viscid wolf]

[distant citrus]

How is R1: alt any different from the original R1? I didn't play it so I'm interested

[silver fable]

apparently slight tile layout differences and hybrids in r1c1 reactor waves

[icy cave]

Couple lay out changes, hybrids, You got R7 mechanics and weapons on R1. Couple of new lore logs

[glossy anchor]

Does the sniper sentry do aoe damage of some kind? Maybe penetrating rounds?

[icy cave]

Finish R7 first

[distant citrus]

No i don't believe so

I think it just does 40 damage every 2??? seconds

Good for chargers and giants

[silver fable]

I think Calle (the community manager) insinuated that the amount of time between alt rundown restorations releasing will be on the order of weeks?

I could be wrong about this, though.

That said, I wouldn't worry about doing the rundowns in order or whatever

it'll probably be normal for new player groups to do A and B tiers from among multiple rundowns, then C tiers from among multiple rundowns, etc, due to the way difficulty tends to increase

Also it's been normal for exactly one rundown to be available at any given time, so you're an unusual era of gtfo where multiple rundowns are available at once at all

a lot of intermediate groups take months to complete even one rundown, fwiw

[craggy pier]

well there are modded rundowns, they exist, but their quality will vary

[silver fable]

.t modding

[uneven gulch]

GTFO doesn't officially support mods and we don't allow them to be played in public lobbies or voice channels on this server, and lengthy discussions should also be avoided (mentioning them is perfectly fine). However, we do recognize that a GTFO modding community exist and if you are interested in them, you are welcome to join the independent modding community Discord server. https://discord.gg/rRMPtv4FAh (If you have any more questions, please read rule #12 in the rules channel for more information.)

[silver fable]

☝️ if you're interested in modded rundowns

[wanton rampart]

Why most people place sentry facing toward the objective we defend instead of facing the waves of ennemies coming ?

[craggy pier]

What expedition is that?

[wanton rampart]

Any, When i play online most ppl do that

[tardy ingot]

you mean they place the sentry facing towards themselves instead of where enemys come from?

[wanton rampart]

Yes

[craggy pier]

Never seen people do that

[tardy ingot]

that was a „thing“ until r6, because before that sentrys also did extra back dmg

They removed that interaction tho. Some people still do it cuz they dont know it changed, some … idk just dont rly bother

Theres some situations where its valid. To give an example for one, its when the sight line is better from behind and the enemys are chargers (since no head crit dmg)
Theres some actual valid reasons but those include special enemys

[craggy pier]

Ah the back damage gotcha, started in r6 so i didn't think about that

[craggy pier]

how much melee dmg bonus you need to hammer a charger scout to the back

[ocean spindle]

thats actually a really good question
so gonna speak on the wiki numbers, scouts have 42 health and a full charge of the santonian is 20 damage
if you were to hit it from the front, thanks to google calculator, it would a damage bonus of about 210%
back has a double damage, so i think it the final answer to kill a scout on the back, would be 105% damage bonus

[wanton rampart]

According to the WIki Charger scout have 60 hps and Full charge hammer is 20 damage, x2 in the back so 40 damage, you'll need 50% increased damage to get to 60 damage?

[ocean spindle]

oh a charger scout i didnt read that

ok so 60 health, then from the front it would be a 300% damage bonus, so i think a 150% damage bonus would be enough for the back

[craggy pier]

i remember reading about 30% not sure tho

[ocean spindle]

actually
i think ur right
i just realized im speakin with the 100% of the already there damage, so puttin that away because its inherent, a 200% frront and a 100% back?

[outer spire]

Is there a way to track or see statistics for individual drop/mission for a team or player?

[devout cargo]

so does a c-foam mine instantly c-foam a tank?

[ocean spindle]

i think that every enemy that can be c-foamed will be instantly frozen by a c-foam tripmine

[craggy pier]

yes but only for 5 secs

[fringe trellis]

is playing solo as a new player (~10 hours) viable?

[nimble summit]

Only on the first one or two levels of each rundown. At the moment I think that R1B1 has the best difficulty balance for soloing. If you are playing with bots you'll get some extra levels you'll be able to pull off.

[fringe trellis]

ngl i just wanna play some earlier levels to get some cosmetics and general experience so i should be fine then

[tardy ingot]

@ocean spindle @craggy pier

You need 50% bonus (with hammer)

Charger scout HP = 60
Hammer dmg full charge = 20
Back dmg x 2 = 40

60/40 = 1,5 = 50% bonus dmg needed (preferably 51%)

[craggy pier]

alrighty so im 9% short

glad i didnt hammer every charger scout i saw

[tardy ingot]

Tho, most levels where you would meet them give you tools vs them (cfoam nade/iix syringe)

Or can simply avoid them

[craggy pier]

r7c2 ovl 😅

[tardy ingot]

yeah thats one of the rougher ones

there are iix syringes (maybe not all the time) in the overload first zone

[craggy pier]

there was one in a locker but we only found it after we had already cleared it

[tardy ingot]

F

if you have 2 people then training to kill them as a duo (or even more) is a neat skill

[craggy pier]

randoms in lfg what can you do 🤷‍♂️

we had cfoam so we were fine

[tardy ingot]

not play lfg

[craggy pier]

only 3 charger scouts

[tardy ingot]

but yeah i see the issue then

i usually dont play lfg too much. Tho its also cuz of anxiety lol

Id rather solo or speedrun

[craggy pier]

you dont just play a random level for fun?

[tardy ingot]

i mean i do so with stuff like solos aswell
And got a decent amount of people whod join if i want to do more challenging stuff

Then again, speedruns > casual runs
Even if i suck its fun to suck quickly (thats what she said )

[craggy pier]

fair enough

[kindred pulsar]

hmm really are we missing something then? are there like multiple difficulties or something

weve only cleared each level once

[tardy ingot]

@kindred pulsar you completed R1 and R7 fully?
R7 with all the side objectives (secondary/overload and both together = PE?)

[kindred pulsar]

we did r1 fully i think only 1 clear each

r7 were almost done with iirc

we have been doing bonus objectives

[tardy ingot]

what have you done of r7 rn?

[kindred pulsar]

uhh we just finished the mission with the kid napper things

[sly zodiac]

So...

This may not be the best place to ask but