"oh, the objective item move to a different location, guess we'll checkpoint AGAIN until that objective item spawn in a better position"
#gtfo-related-questions
vital sierra
vital sierra
well
wary linden
People are cheesing everything
wary linden
Ofc they will do it
vital sierra
have you played pub E1?
dusky tiger
have you played PUB d1?
Pub d1 overload post nerf
My only completion
Dont even know how you could cheese that
Its
vital sierra
Pub d1 overload post nerf
My only completion
i finished D1 like 6 times
3 of them are all cheese because pub can't shoot a snatcher
dusky tiger
My man,I'm not going through bug hell 6 times
If not the bugs it would really fun
Would be*
dusky tiger
I'll be honest
My first E1 clear was cheese but it was ridiculously boring that I was like
redemption arc time
vital sierra
and it's not even bugged
dusky tiger
we have 1 snatcher
kill me we had 3
vital sierra
they just say, "ye game bug" and then proceed to cheese
neon gust
we have 1 snatcher
How about you have 1 bitch
dusky tiger
they just say, "ye game bug" and then proceed to cheese
How would you even cheese E1?
Door bug?
I mean
D1
wary linden
How about you have 1 bitch
It seems you are maidenless too. Perhaps a trip into the complex will change that
vital sierra
2 hours of 3 knucklehead running around to door cheese
when the level is about 1 hour or less
dusky tiger
E1(for me as my first e level) was challenging when it was done legit
Genuinely a fun time
dusky tiger
Yea:
vital sierra
gamer playing game
dusky tiger
Who could have seen that coming
vital sierra
GTFO player when game too hard:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Or4IE8fkpn4
dusky tiger
Simple solution
Die
Repeat level
Die but get further
Progress
Immense pain
But progress
What I was really surprised to find out is that the door bug has apparently been around since r1
Which seems
Like a long time for it to go unpatched
vital sierra
What I was really surprised to find out is that the door bug has apparently been...
since alpha
dusky tiger
B r u h
vital sierra
but the bug only happen when player do a specific thing to the door
it never going to happen if you play the game normally
dusky tiger
The door bugs I want patched is cfoam going through a closed door
Or enemies detonating mines on the other side of a closed one
The second one has happened once
Not again pls
vital sierra
that's model shit
dusky tiger
Ah
vital sierra
either they make it so their model can't pass through object
or smaller model (band aid fix)
dusky tiger
Myes
dusky tiger
my group gave up mid r5
What surprised me is one of them duod a few levels with me
Said it got too hard
Lfg since then
Went back to 5th rundown through non vanilla means
Doesnt seem nearly as bad now
C1 and C2 were ok ish
Gamer play game mentality man shall now depart
Have a good one
minor fractal
Doesnt seem nearly as bad now
This is almost all of the hype around R4 tbqh.
First rundown where most people got good, and so people remember it as being crazy hard, even on pretty easy levels.
light parcel
There is point of taking Mastaba R66 Revolver over Drekker Del P1 Precision Rifle?
Revolver have faster reload and fire speed but other parameters looks better on Precision Rifle. I just see other better option against crowds or single targets than Revolver.
Do I miss something?
minor fractal
There is point of taking Mastaba R66 Revolver over Drekker Del P1 Precision Rifl...
High body damage, and that reload is a big deal, especially when PR is so incredibly sluggish. PR requires a good sight line while Revo is more of a skirmisher that's good at any range.
You can cancel the reload on Revo btw, which is the main thing that makes it lightning fast.
light parcel
Thank you. Will try it out.
soft crater
PR has better vision over long ranges which of course comes down to if the player can handle the Thermal optics
queen wasp
PR is for long range fights and you can't really do close quarters with it, given that ADS has high magnification and reload is sooo slow. But for long range, PR is quite decent.
wary linden
PR is a worst revolver. Always has been 🙂
I love joining pubs and they are like "don't take revolver in this mission it is shit" but then they run PR themselves
minor fractal
PR is underrated tbh, because range and visibility are underrated.
It's not really better or worse than revo, it's just different while filling the same role.
wary linden
The problem is that revolver has more pratical situations that it works while PR will HEAVILY struggle in some of those
noble sierra
Sniper also heavily struggles in most of the situations
minor fractal
Eh, I don't think being situational is necessarily bad, and you could even argue it's a skill issue for things like being unwieldy in CQC.
You can also just position for it, play further back when you can.
noble sierra
PR is never a jack of all trade weapon for sure
minor fractal
Only level where it's felt particularly bad to me is C3, personally.
So many close angles for w/e reason.
noble sierra
I'm especially like PR in D2/E1, I think certain amount of my D2/E1 clears I used PR
wary linden
The problem with the gun for casuals is that it sounds like the sniper so they think it is one
minor fractal
"It's really good for giants"
I cringe
Mind you, 30 damage first shot is p good, but, like, as support.
minor fractal
For way more ammo.
noble sierra
Giant/crowds are the reason I paired PR with hel shotgun more and more. They compensate each other well
minor fractal
but yeah, it's better for dedicated anti-giant.
I don't think I could survive the reload.
I always play Carbine.
wary linden
Best special is the hcp this rundown. Especially on low man.
The gun might not be the most ammo effective but it is by far the best Jack of all trade of this rundown. And you won't be missing ammo in levels
minor fractal
For low-man maybe, but I think that title easily goes to MG in 4-man.
The most universal wave-clear geared special.
wary linden
Idk feels like you need to dedicate yourself to shooting it. Also a lot of time enemies are just dead before the MG start to Do work...
Especially when 4 people shoot
minor fractal
Sustained damage does, in-fact, usually depend on sustained fire.
dapper compass
HCP best just due to the satisfaction of hitting all 6 hits in a row
minor fractal
Also not sure what the "dead before" comment is on about. Chip damage synergizes pretty well with almost everything.
wary linden
That is the thing though.there are 4 people shooting. You don't need sustain fire.
It's only needed when your team's aim is shit
minor fractal
??
You are killing lots of enemies over a long period w/ any sustained-clear weapon.
wary linden
Yes but you can kill Them all instantly too with 4 people shooting
minor fractal
Yes, 4 shooting their guns
of which MG is a gun.
and it can do that.
What I don't understand here is it seems like you're implying MG is losing... something.
But I have no idea what you think that is.
wary linden
People over estimate the MG a lot. It isnt a bad gun. It just doesn't come crucial in any practical situation. Like can you name a situation where you'd be like " damn wish i had a MG rn"
Same goes for har
minor fractal
" damn wish i had a MG rn"
Literally any wave hold, especially any hold where one person needs to be self-sufficient without wasting a lot of ammo.
wary linden
Exactly
latent obsidian
Yeah MG is useless if you've hammered all the enemies already
craggy pier
I lost a man doing actual damage to enemies
wary linden
Like ray. You talk like there are on many instances a full wave cap rushing you down.
minor fractal
Fam, even if your aim is shit, it 6-shots to body, that's hard to fuck up, and 4-shot is just really strong.
wary linden
idk go see those people wasting an entire clip trying to kill 1 striker
minor fractal
BRO
wary linden
:p
craggy pier
Maybe I would appreciate mg if there was an actual surge scan in this rundown
But there isn't
soft crater
So essentially you mean people who cant control MG recoil
minor fractal
I can just say HCP is fucking dog because the people that use it are, on average, terrible.
soft crater
Hence waste a mag on 1 striker
craggy pier
Which is funny, because the buffed mg is essentially the answer to high pressure alarms such as surge alarms
soft crater
craggy pier
And there isn't one in this rundown
wary linden
There is no situation where sustain fire is needed this rundown
soft crater
You can say that about a lot of things tbh but it wont stop people from taking it
minor fractal
Then revo is also garbage by extension, correct?
noble sierra
So there's no situation in this rundown that MG is a must, but it applies to every special
wary linden
Bring one Burst Sentry. Look at that your primaries will kill as easily.
Bring one sniper Sentry = where are the enemies?
craggy pier
I mean yea, it all comes down to player choice at the end of the day
You can give out vacuum scenarios all day long to justify weapons
minor fractal
If I want a carry loadout in PuGs especially, ammo efficiency does actually matter a lot on some levels.
craggy pier
oh xxx is good on xxx
minor fractal
MG is just the goto if I want to solo waves, nothing else.
craggy pier
I've had great success with xxx on xxx
craggy pier
Sniper is overkill on moms
noble sierra
True, argue a weapon is "always better/best" simply meaningless
craggy pier
Don't use it
soft crater
Sniper is overkill on moms
That's tumors in general but it's the only weapon atm to oneshot tumors
wary linden
When you bring hcp. You bring it for an overall practical situation. Not just to clear waves. If so revolver would be straight better
noble sierra
Nope, chokemod/pump shotgun did it as well
soft crater
He doesn't know about shotgun and choke mod
More like I forgot mom tumors have different multis
But ok
minor fractal
Fam, clearing waves is arguably the most common situation in this game.
Hell, 6 shots is not a lot for clearing waves.
soft crater
Been fighting Tanks in E1 quite a bit
minor fractal
You are going to regularly need to fight more than 6 enemies at a time.
soft crater
With your misinfo
Really dont bag on it if it's a mistake.
wary linden
Hell, 6 shots is not a lot for clearing waves.
It is a lot when 4 people can shoot. Which is your MAIN point of when MG is good
noble sierra
Never disagree on HCP is a great all rounder. But if you have 4 people, why brings a jack-of-all-trade weapon but not the best at any case
soft crater
Seriouslyn
wary linden
Never disagree on HCP is a great all rounder. But if you have 4 people, why brin...
Never Said to bring 4 hcp
craggy pier
Even 4 hcp works
minor fractal
The best 1-of doesn't really strike me as the best all-around weapon.
wary linden
Just that MG is over estimated
soft crater
Then it's overkill so you shouldn't use it
I never said you shouldnt use it. But it is overkill ON STRIKERS. Dont fucking twist my words
craggy pier
Heck I did 4 dmr sniper on r5c3ex
minor fractal
And a big part of the MG buff is that it's just not that bad for body damage rn.
Pick big target, hold M1.
You can almost kill two big strikers in a mag.
minor fractal
Nearly 4 max, you get more than 1 per refill (80 shots).
More damage per refill than HCP btw, although not by much.
HAR, PR, Revo, and Sniper are legit the only weapons that are bad for body damage rn.
You could maybe argue Revo is p good due to reload.
Okay more like
wary linden
You seem to forget you have 2 guns
noble sierra
I'll say PR/sniper is bad at body damage, revolver and HAR still decent
minor fractal
Ehh, they're decent but they're not good.
Compared to MG, HCP, and shotguns, they don't have the same output at all.
wary linden
You have to remember you can switch guns. So revo combine with a shot or 2 of your primary depending which one you took... Kill your common waves
minor fractal
They're passable, though.
wary linden
Even if you miss the head
minor fractal
I'm talking for big targets ,SGX
wary linden
Big Target also works
minor fractal
If you're using revo on bigs, it's kind of slow.
wary linden
You just need to manage your staggers well
minor fractal
Bro, I thought you were praising HCP for TTK.
Why the fuck are you even using the weapon if you don't value its damage at all?
craggy pier
Idk, I still think it's a wasted opportunity to not have a surge alarm this rundown, in fact, it's one of the 2 rundowns that don't have a surge since r2, so the value of mg doesn't appeal to me
wary linden
But Giants are not the forte of the revolver. Sure you can down one almost as fast as a sniper innsome scenario..
craggy pier
You can bring it yes but most of the time I think the usage is either wasted or could have been better with another weapon
minor fractal
Sure, but we're talking about the general-purpose advantages that make MG and HCP really good, right?
craggy pier
I don't see mg as general purpose
minor fractal
So I think it's worth being clear about the fact that MG outperforms most options in its category by virtue of having a really high damage output.
wary linden
Why the fuck are you even using the weapon if you don't value its damage at all?
Why did autoPP so good? Not for the dmg that is for sure
craggy pier
If anything har is the general purpose
noble sierra
MG is for sure the most general-purpose gun this rundown. Even kills babies.
minor fractal
HAR is terrible at general purpose compared to MG.
craggy pier
Why
wary linden
MG is for sure the most general-purpose gun this rundown. Even kills babies.
Have you try Hel shotgun for baby wave clear?
craggy pier
It hits a good amount of breakpoints and the recoil is a skill issue if you can't cope with it
dry pumice
If anything har is the general purpose
I heard people compare the two, like they are one and the same. The only difference is which taste of recoil you prefer.
minor fractal
I legit feel like you people have never actually checked MG's stats or played the weapon at all.
craggy pier
It's also really user friendly
noble sierra
Have you try Hel shotgun for baby wave clear?
Ofc, a lot actually. And I never say MG is the best babies killer
craggy pier
I did, but I think I could have done better with other weapons
The only times where I told myself, I rather have a mg is just r2e1
minor fractal
Don't you play mostly solo?
craggy pier
Doesn't mean I don't play with others
noble sierra
We are focusing on HCP vs MG now? it's simply like TTK vs sustained/efficiency preference
wary linden
I legit feel like you people have never actually checked MG's stats or played th...
Let's remake the the Har vs Mg more similar again like in r6... Oh Wait people used har a lot more then! Why is that i wonder? Maybe it's because the gun is more user friendly overall
craggy pier
Shit's still putrid
wary linden
Doesn't mean mg was bad in r6
minor fractal
Let's remake the the Har vs Mg more similar again like in r6... Oh Wait people u...
Wtf does being "user-friendly" have to do with anything?
Aren't you a massive tryhard?
Obviously, MG is hard af to learn and use well.
craggy pier
He plays revolver
minor fractal
(assuming no prior FPS experience anyhow).
wary linden
Shoot head. Enemy die
minor fractal
That's not what "general-purpose" means.
General purpose means it is strong in a lot of situations.
dry pumice
Anything that requires reliable headshots is not "general purpose".
craggy pier
I don't think it's strong against killing the actual boss
minor fractal
Has nothing to do with how easily you can use the weapon for those situations.
craggy pier
:^)
But with har i actually soloed tank on r6d1
Because pubs managed to all go down to it
minor fractal
Who?
craggy pier
LIterally first time d1 players
minor fractal
Who the fuck asked.
craggy pier
I'm giving you a scenario
minor fractal
Good for you.
noble sierra
Why our discussion has to be involved with any "unknown pub players"
craggy pier
If anything combat shotgun and shotgun was the definitive embodiment of a general purpose weapon
Good for wave clear, good for bosses, good for giants
noble sierra
I agree they are well suited in general purpose
craggy pier
Good for crowd control
Not mg because it doesn't hit two of 4 requirements for my interpretation of a general purpose weapon
minor fractal
For CS, sure, but pump is burst-clear, which makes it a generalist but not as universally strong as something like MG.
noble sierra
MG are good on all situations you mentioned.
craggy pier
I wouldn't use it for bosses, I wouldn't use it as my default for giants
If i use it against the two, it's last ditch efforts
minor fractal
On giants specifically, you are just wrong.
craggy pier
Because r7 is buffed yea but before no
minor fractal
We are specifically talking R7.
wary linden
On giants specifically, you are just wrong.
Why? You are a 4 Man team. You probably have a Giant Killer on your team that is better then MG
minor fractal
I never said MG was the best weapon in R6, and it wasn't.
craggy pier
No one in the right mind would say that for r6
minor fractal
Why? You are a 4 Man team. You probably have a Giant Killer on your team that is...
Which is even more reason to run a weapon that leans more into wave clear.
You have the option, but you don't have to use it.
And if you need it, it's pretty damn good.
Giant killer goes down, solo/duo hold, etc.
wary linden
Which is *even more reason* to run a weapon that leans more into wave clear.
Huh ok but There are guns that Do just that and are Giants Killer better then MG. Again for wave clear YOU HAVE 4 PEOPLE WITH 2 GUNS EACH.
Even if you all use your primaries. You Will clear that wave quickly
minor fractal
If we're just gonna go back to "but you don't need it" every single time, you don't need anything. Nothing is truly a bottleneck.
You don't need a giant killer, you don't need dedicated wave clear, you don't need ammo, etc.
But it's quite nice to have, and MG is just really powerful.
noble sierra
You don't need HCP
noble sierra
You don't
minor fractal
I can't think of a scenario where I need HCP.
craggy pier
true
rigid sinew
(frank)ly
wary linden
As a 4 Man you don't need to focus on what is the most useful for a level.
As a low man squad. You do
craggy pier
Maybe one day a good surge alarm comes back
minor fractal
As a low man squad, you need to focus on a few people optimizing their stats for doing certain jobs they wouldn't otherwise need to do.
In that situation, big surprise, burst clear and damage are very valuable, because you're essentially halving your potential damage in a 2-man.
wary linden
And everything that Works in low man Works better in 4 man
minor fractal
That's not really a fact about the game in general, it's pretty specific to low-man.
Absolutely not, you specialize more in 4-man without giving up as much power, and you can afford to optimize things other than damage output and clear speed once you've already hit the burst threshold you need.
noble sierra
Everything works in duo works in 3/4 men for sure. Works better? not really
wary linden
As a 4 man, You have twice/a quartier more the fire Power. Better Burst dmg... You only needed half before on low man..
craggy pier
well If I were to say, I soloed a level with that specific loadout, does that mean it works better in 4p
noble sierra
You had 4 guns to solve 10 puzzles, so those 4 guns need to be generalized enough to cover all 10 puzzles. But with 8 guns you for sure can have more optimized combinations to better cover 10 puzzles.
minor fractal
You only needed half before on low man..
Well, clearly not. The whole point of HCP is burst damage.
You are slotting in additional burst to make up for missing team members.
craggy pier
Does that mean hel rifle is burst damage smile
minor fractal
Kind of, yes, same for HEL Gun.
craggy pier
Time to kill tank with 3x the time for the burst damage
minor fractal
HEL Gun is def a lot faster than Rifle, haven't played much HEL Rifle.
Boss killing isn't really a measure of burst.
It's a completely different thing, and it's almost a 50/50 if a weapon will be any good at it.
craggy pier
It can be one when you want things to die fast
wary linden
Hel gun struggles against bosses though. Burst dmg not high enough.. but Wait maybe it works on low man is not because of the dmg aspect and more because of the penetration aspect of the gun
craggy pier
for example, r5c2ovl
minor fractal
SGX
Penetration
letting you kill a lot of enemies very quickly
plus hire RoF
is burst
Boss killing has nothing to do w/ burst unless you are trying to specifically kill bosses really fast.
craggy pier
hence I said r5c2ovl
wary linden
True. But hcp has nothing of that. Only dmg yet you call it Burst dmg too 🙂
noble sierra
So, what's SGX major argument of HCP is the best special?
craggy pier
I shoot 6 shots, 6 smalls die
I have a relatively usable range
I have a decent mag size
Decently fast reload
I can kill giants and bosses fairly fast for 30 dmg special
at least for me
wary linden
It does anything you need it to do in a good kill/Time ratio and pairs well with a lot of guns for every situations. Hence it is the most versatile special weapon in r7.
wary linden
You are trying sonhard to generalize the aspect of multiple guns when they are valued for different things.
Sniper is Burst but suck in low man
craggy pier
I have good results with high cali in solo, duos and 4p
craggy pier
doesn't mean I bring high cali all the time, for example I bring sniper on d2 and c3
interchange for a choke mod depending on the situation and other player's loadout
noble sierra
Let's exclude niche specials and focusing on only "versatile specials", which in R7 is probably HCP/MG/shotgun/chokemod/HAR
wary linden
it's not burst clear
You are starting to be the one lost here. You kept saying Burst dmg. Not you call it Burst clear.
Now*
noble sierra
So among all these versatile specials, HCP is better because of the "time/kill" ratio, right?
wary linden
Ammo/clip also useful.
noble sierra
Fair
wary linden
Hcp is pretty Much a better Choke because of that
minor fractal
plus higher RoF is [good for] burst
Boss killing isn't really a measure of burst.
you've already hit the burst threshold you need.
In that situation, big surprise, burst clear and damage are very valuable
noble sierra
Hcp is pretty Much a better Choke because of that
That I disagree, but I guess deep down it's just preference/playstyle.
wary linden
4 in the clip is too low
Especially on low man
The low man runs also value reload speed. You don't have a team to cover for long reloads
tranquil arch
HCP fire rate simply doesn't compete with the firing speed and control you have with choke mod by comparison
-runs away-
craggy pier
well there's not really a scenario where I need that rof
Unless i'm killing double charger scouts
wary linden
HCP fire rate simply doesn't compete with the firing speed and control you have ...
True. But you kill more with hcp and so takes more time before you need to reload 🙂
noble sierra
4 in the clip is too low
True and true, I agree your arguments mostly. Still I'll say HCP is a great gun, not the best.
wary linden
It's the best Jack of all trade this rundow
craggy pier
it's an ok thing but there's no actual good r7 special
tranquil arch
best jack of all trades is MG
craggy pier
everything blends
tranquil arch
it always has been since first rundown
if you know how to use it properly with windup burst firing
craggy pier
yea man it's a great idea to bring r5 mg to pmom
tranquil arch
perfectly fine o.o
noble sierra
It's the best Jack of all trade this rundow
I'll say HCP/chokemod/MG are all competing for jack of all trades category
tranquil arch
can you not aim?
craggy pier
fun fact, mg is the only weapon that can't stagger snatcher solo fast enough
even har is possible
tranquil arch
it literally can
minor fractal
^
craggy pier
show me
tranquil arch
you just need to shoot his back tentacles/central stomach tentacles quickly before he gets in range
enough damage staggers
he leaves back open and it tracks easily for a kill
tranquil arch
yes, solo this would still work
craggy pier
show me
tranquil arch
just need enough space between you and the snatcher
wary linden
So you need a long Line of sight to Do it. Similar to revolver
tranquil arch
but why tf you running solo?
wary linden
🙂
craggy pier
I love derailing
tranquil arch
no, it's just a fact
why on earth are you playing this game solo
I can't think of anything more depressing
craggy pier
I just like shooting guns
tranquil arch
but not solo
minor fractal
There are pretty fun solos ngl
but it's usually because the content isn't actually that hard.
noble sierra
You don't have to understand, but you can still pay respect for solo players.
tranquil arch
if you liked guns why wouldn't you play almost any other FPS with infinitely better gunplay
minor fractal
Anything where you can solo hold or that's stealth-heavy I like, personally.
craggy pier
Also playing solo so i can solo hold better and perform last man up better
But we live in a perfect scenario where last man up doesn't exist
and people prefer to just checkpoint
so that skill dimmished
tranquil arch
checkpoints aren't how most people wanted them in their current state anyway
wary linden
Still how they are rn
tranquil arch
myself and others I spoke to would have preferred to be able to return to a mission in a different play session
for people with less time
but naturally that is harder to implement
wary linden
That also defeat the pressure purpose. Unless the wipe reset you to lobby even after coming back another Day.
soft crater
Too wishful if it were like that imo
craggy pier
one day, heavy pressure expeditions will exist again
wary linden
Hopefully
craggy pier
can't think of one in r6 or r7
craggy pier
even as solo
tranquil arch
but you can leave a mission, return to current point with team later
craggy pier
everything is too controlled and too contained
wary linden
<@339947600318824459> that's the point
Then that is a lot of developpement and they Will have to set Up some sort of rules on when that checkpoint get cleard
soft crater
LF Warehouse room full of tanks/Giants threats all sleeping and you start with no ammo like C3
craggy pier
any monkey can solo kill giants and hybrids without them screaming
wary linden
Like if it stops you from doing any other missions then you can't Play the game if you don't want to lose that checkpoint... And so you have to Wait for your mates
soft crater
any monkey can solo kill giants and hybrids without them screaming
To be elaborate. Like R6D3 Tank room but bigger and Increased Amount of Tanks and Giants to the point its crowded
craggy pier
then it'll just be stealth and it becomes boring
soft crater
any monkey can solo kill giants and hybrids without them screaming
You can say that about 1 or 2 isolated giants but not in the aspect I'm saying
craggy pier
i mean some people do prefer stealth heavy levels which i don't mind
i'll just segregate that level and never play it
simple as
soft crater
then it'll just be stealth and it becomes boring
Then play a level that has alerts and etc.
wary linden
I'll say HCP/chokemod/MG are all competing for jack of all trades category
Also i missed that earlier but you can take the melee weapons as an example too... Bat and Hammer are the Jack of all trade.
There is a better Jack of all trade. 🙂
craggy pier
Then play a level that has alerts and etc.
why people prefer d2 over any other level in r7
noble sierra
Also i missed that earlier but you can take the melee weapons as an example too....
There is, like in R6 hel gun is the best jack of all trade. But I don't agree there's one in R7.
craggy pier
imagine my surprise when people prefer fun levels over gimmicks
minor fractal
why people prefer d2 over any other level in r7
Very fast for its difficulty.
D2 is a gimmick, lmfao.
soft crater
why people prefer d2 over any other level in r7
Comparing a level that's entirely different from the idea I'm mentioning
wary linden
Very fast for its difficulty.
What difficulty? People bring 2 sniper sentries which basically deal with the defense if you have the bio with Them... You just need to refill and barely shoot
tranquil arch
stealth is meant to be the norm o.o, D2 is the gimmick if anything
soft crater
Doesnt have to be the most populated LFG wise level
wary linden
D2 can be defended with a single person if done well
tranquil arch
the only real difficulty is RNG in extraction, and you can skirt that by killing the tank during the escape on bridge and dealing with snatchers immediately
craggy pier
lol stealth
tranquil arch
I know everyone can't get over their loss of bunnyhop tech, but yes, the original intent of the game is for it to be a combination of stealth/shooter co-op horror
minor fractal
What difficulty? People bring 2 sniper sentries which basically deal with the de...
So if I say "fast for its difficulty"
tranquil arch
it's literally on the store page
minor fractal
It has a high difficulty for a level that only takes 20-30 minutes.
wary linden
Quick high intensity level would describe it better then saying it is difficult
minor fractal
Compared to like, A1, where it takes 20-30 minutes because nothing happens.
tranquil arch
you're difficult to talk to
but yes, B3 extraction is harder if anything, especially in PE
D2 extraction has a lot of ways to handle the situation
minor fractal
Wtf do you think "difficult for its length" means if not "quick and intense"?
Holy shit
turn your brain on.
wary linden
Difficulty is not the same as intensity
They are just not the same 🙂
Fast paced and high intensity would be closer
craggy pier
intense because waves are never stopping and you're on a timer
but not difficult because the wave size are
😴
tranquil arch
on a timer o.o
the only timer part of the level is if you wait 120 seconds after checkpoint door, then the waves start coming anyway
otherwise they are triggered by leaving zone beforehand or it spawns the waves as well as the tank/snatcher wave when you put USB in machine
you're not on the clock in any other scenario
craggy pier
the resource is a time limit for the average pub because there's just too much resource
tranquil arch
even random pub I never had resource issues tbh
even on bridge where there are less
craggy pier
you can hold for 2 hours and still have neough for extract
wary linden
even random pub I never had resource issues tbh
I have seen people bring supply efficiency in d2 lol
tranquil arch
I see
It is definitely my favourite this rundown tho
it's quick fun
people usually need help on it
and you don't need to commit a lot of time to a run
wary linden
people usually need help on it
People can't aim
tranquil arch
bring the right guns and you don't really even need good aim for it
wary linden
Bring sniper sentries and they Do the defense for you
And somehow pubs manage to die still because they don't refill them
🙂
tranquil arch
I think the reason you see people calling it hard or struggling with it is because, despite not looking that way, new people are still joining the game
I meet a new player once a day in random MM atm
and see new discord people a decent bit
so they haven't had to deal with an alarm for an entire level before like this
minor fractal
PuGs w/ genuinely useless players on D2 are rough.
tranquil arch
it's new to them
wary linden
Yes... And they get carried into harder tier levels and so didn't develop their skills for those tiers
Unfortunate but very common
tranquil arch
I disagree
you get to D2 fairly quickly
even with a group of 4 new people
you only have to progress through 4 main missions
minor fractal
If you beeline it, it's genuinely not that bad.
tranquil arch
and you will typically follow those first
so naturally those people haven't had a lot of time to acclimatize to the game
carry or not
I would call it significantly hard for new players, just not for anyone with previous rundown experience
so Ray's assessment isn't entirely unfair
especially since you could wake three tanks at once in the cell side room with the very little tank experience you would have as a newbie at this point
minor fractal
If you beeline it, it's genuinely not that bad.
D1 is the main roadblock, and, while not easy, it's not a crazy hard level all things considered.
tranquil arch
that section and the retreat to the entrance I could see being a struggle if you don't have a strategy
craggy pier
hmm
tranquil arch
yes, working through some of those side missions would definitely be better for people
wary linden
🙂
tranquil arch
bring it up with the devs
wary linden
People have
wary linden
Just make the story missions stop in B tier 🙂
craggy pier
just not have story missions and let environment story telling do the work
tranquil arch
i'd prefer scrapping the story and dialogue altogether for the sake of more interesting levels and more enemy designs
craggy pier
instead of having people blasting their mics
wary linden
"muh story" players though. 😛
minor fractal
Not sure it's actually a big deal if people are going deeper too fast, tbh.
They will, to some extent, need to meet some standard of ability for all of it.
And E1 is still gated behind side levels.
tranquil arch
It's only really an issue if that player makes it a problem for a different group with inexperience...but people need to be more tolerant of others in general anyway.
craggy pier
i don't like how you can just do high
tranquil arch
Naturally that isn't always easy to tell to someone who is sick of failing with a group when they have limited playtime though.
Nobody wins really.
craggy pier
r4 and 5 did it better
minor fractal
I personally think bad players on D2 is much less of an issue than hardstuck players on PEs.
tranquil arch
PE is designed around the philosophy of at least partial or good pre-existing level knowledge
minor fractal
Thinking you're hot shit while also not knowing much about the game and being terrible at it is just annoying.
tranquil arch
But yeah
I think PE in general isn't rewarding or dynamic enough to be interesting anyway
tranquil arch
if it unlocked more exclusive content or further challenges...but then there would be issues with gating content in the community
minor fractal
Nothing will ever fix bad players in PuGs, it's just the PuG experience.
Has always been a thing
will always be a thing
Get a static.
wary linden
At least they don't default to kiting everything now
minor fractal
I dunno if I'd generalize that to all bad players.
Some of it boils down to genuine inexperience.
wary linden
Sorry when i talk about bad players i am not referencing inexperience players here. My bad
soft crater
Feels bad
tranquil arch
If you mean people who don't perform better after explaining things or continuous pushing
Some people just need more hands on experience
wary linden
There are plenty of inexperience players that Do a good job of try to hold their weight but lack wxperience
tranquil arch
And I imagine a lot of players will burn out before then
minor fractal
I miss the R1 days when I could watch the rest of the team do weird shit.
While I vibe.
soft crater
Didnt Rundown 7 take more 4-5 days before it was beaten?
minor fractal
I think Fireblade beat it day 2.
noble sierra
less than 3 days for fireblade
soft crater
Iirc most people got to E1 on Day 3
soft crater
I think Fireblade beat it day 2.
Fire blade built different qwq
tranquil arch
Just lots of memeing and screwing around
minor fractal
Fire blade built different qwq
This E1 really benefits people w/ a speedrunner's playstyle and skill set, so not too surprising.
soft crater
This E1 really benefits people w/ a speedrunner's playstyle and skill set, so no...
I can see that and with D2 as well
minor fractal
In addition to not being very hard on top.
craggy pier
heck r6 was finished literally day 1
tranquil arch
I wanted Pablo sequences to be like...
craggy pier
that was a genuine funny moment
tranquil arch
You know the immortal necromorph in dead space
soft crater
Yeah E1 my group atm is finding it to be much less chaotic then we've been told but yeah
soft crater
Imean those can be slowed down tho
minor fractal
Code hunts are most of the difficulty on E1.
tranquil arch
Instead it's like listening to Benny Hill on loop
minor fractal
Everything else is pretty eh.
tranquil arch
Right, but those sections are tense in that game
craggy pier
static terminals
soft crater
TK/Reanimation phase
tranquil arch
In GTFO it is not
craggy pier
😴
minor fractal
E-tier aesthetic, but doesn't live up to expectations.
soft crater
Right, but those sections are tense in that game
Iirc. They one shotted you too? (Well to be fair I only ever played the hardest difficulty in ds3)
craggy pier
and actually there should be a free code to burn your resource
tranquil arch
I think the section I am thinking of is from ds2
craggy pier
and let players learn about reactor
tranquil arch
Near the end
craggy pier
because there are genuine r7 players who don't know how to reactor
because it's the only reactor in r7
wary linden
They should just have a reactor in another tier prior to E1
noble sierra
^
soft crater
Me waiting for when R7 Newbs encounter a surge if there is one in Ext/R8
minor fractal
Me when I can duo carry to reactor, and then the duo crashes and I'm solo grabbing first code while the other 2 people are doing literally nothing.
craggy pier
when will you carry me
noble sierra
Had a couple E1 games with someone literally first time reactor
tranquil arch
I do think if it caught up to you it was an instakill maybe, or could be max difficulty only
soft crater
Probably
tranquil arch
But I actually felt the pressure and intensity in that section in that game when dealing with an unkillable enemy
Not in GTFO tho lol
minor fractal
because there are genuine r7 players who don't know how to reactor
Some R6 players don't know how to reactor.
wary linden
Me when I can duo carry to reactor, and then the duo crashes and I'm solo grabbi...
Almost like the reactor is a joke
craggy pier
i can understand that
minor fractal
Get hardstuck C1, come back for R7, never seen it.
soft crater
I dont remember much of Ds2 besides the scene he shuts off the power and the necros get in.
soft crater
But I actually felt the pressure and intensity in that section in that game when...
Last thing off topic but Cant wait for Callisto project
craggy pier
that's why there should always be a free code on wave 1 on code fetching reactors
soft crater
R6D1 is more of a classic norm Reactor aside from the tank at the end
wary linden
R6D1 is more of a classic norm Reactor aside from the tank at the end
Fliers Spawn zone was set
soft crater
shrugs
tranquil arch
Fliers spawns zones have been set since their introduction no?
soft crater
Imo. It's just fliers
tranquil arch
Minus like, last mission r6
With them typically spawning in the space you are defending
wary linden
R7c2 3-4 cell error alarm
soft crater
Fliers weed out people who struggle with aiming
tranquil arch
Precision rifle is good c2 if doing PE too
craggy pier
and I just hammered 4 tumors on a e1 lfg
tranquil arch
For the chargers/fliers/fog
craggy pier
fun times
pr struggled with his tank for 3 mins and I killed mine in 1
pr is such a good gun
rancid zealot
How difficult is R7 compared to the other rundowns?
craggy pier
pr is only better on 4 enemies than revolver or it'll just be a revolver downgrade
if you don't attack those 4 enemies, you're literally better off using revolver
craggy pier
the thermal sight downgrade compared to pdw
tranquil arch
And both have you handling chargers if pe
PDW doesn't have stopping power during an error tho
Against normal enemies yeah
Not chargers tho
craggy pier
almost like you can
bio then use special on chargers
then swap back to main for hsu error
minor fractal
PR is p good for tanks?
craggy pier
it is
minor fractal
It's an okay boss killer if you want to keep your wave clear.
PuGs, on the other hand...
Although if someone struggles with any decent anti-tank weapon they'll likely struggle w/ all of them.
craggy pier
damn I got scammed
mr provision doesn't give me ammo for sniper then the snatcher got him during s1 arena scan 😂
noble sierra
PR not just an okay boss killer, it's the 2nd best boss killer gun.
wary linden
shotgun would like to have a word with you
winged turtle
honestly, as a new and bad player, PR is nice because it pushes you to be accurate and deliberate with your shots. and doesn't have a ammo cap that steals your lunch money for missing.
not to say its only good at this by any stretch, but it is a good 'new to FPS training' weapon
wary linden
revolver might be easier overall... if you fuck up too many shoot the fast reload compensate ... but in exchange half the clip
dry pumice
The thermal sight as an upgrade as well
I just cannot work with ironsights
I don't understand them
wary linden
The Little dot goes on the head of the enemies
If no dot. Then it is the head that is in between of the U shape from the irons sight
That is pretty much how i aim them in gtfo
winged turtle
iron sights are fine, probably lol, but enough levels have had fog or darkness that having a default thermal has helped the learning curve for other aspects of the game too
wary linden
I think people are more relying on it... And if they are gone in r8 then they will complain
We don't know if guns will be restricted for rundowns... It would make sense if they keep the concept of rundown specific weapons
So even if we have multiple rundowns at once in the future. Rundown specific weapons could remains for their designated rundowns
soft crater
R6 with R7 HAR recoil
minor fractal
@wary linden HCP does less damage in a clip than MG by a fair amount, although I'll say it's about even since you have a bit less control over where a spray lands given the animation weirdness.
You need an additional 2-3 shots to kill depending on teammate chip damage (15 health left)
wary linden
time/kill is the main difference here. you don't seem to be able to kill it before it runs away.. you can with hcp
like i said. that is a control environment. idk if it would be as viable to leave the threat alive for that long when you have other shit to deal with
soft crater
Basically smaller damage per shot vs High damage per shot
minor fractal
time/kill is the main difference here. you don't seem to be able to kill it befo...
If you say so? You'd need 2 shots full back damage to avoid a reload.
wary linden
and you can get them when he runs away
minor fractal
I wouldn't mind saying HCP is better for HPTs, though, that is kind of its job.
dense granite
Anyone know how to avoid the accursed checkpoint scan bug where a teammate cannot put down the objective item
minor fractal
I just don't think that'd put it above MG for general use.
dense granite
I’ve had friends be unable to do anything due to it
minor fractal
You could definitely say it's the most versatile weapon w/ anti-HPT uses.
minor fractal
Anyone know how to avoid the accursed checkpoint scan bug where a teammate canno...
Avoid carrying any big-pickup items when doing a CP scan.
Also, if a non-host gets the bug, have them leave, get a bot in, wipe and respawn, and then let them rejoin.
dense granite
Alright
minor fractal
That usually resolved it.
Sometimes just rejoining fixes it, but it's less consistent.
dense granite
Y’all think it’s ever going to get fixed
minor fractal
I'd give that a solid maybe.
dense granite
seems like it’s been around for a bit
minor fractal
They fixed sniper melee, and they hired a bunch of people, so hopefully GTFO will get some more attention from the company.
Not high hopes from me, though.
minor fractal
I feel like the game has been trending towards neglect for a while.
dense granite
Probs
I’m in the game here and there
Stopped at D1 then been struggling to get friends to continue on
they got aggravated by C1
and the snatcher introduction alarm
wary linden
Btw @minor fractal it took you around 90 bullets to kill it.. if you don't count the shot that blatantly missed the snatcher in your clip
It would be closer to around 80 if you also remove the white hitmarkers... But the gun isnt accurate as it is a MG to Begin with
wary linden
???
frank cliff
minor fractal
It would be closer to around 80 if you also remove the white hitmarkers... But t...
W8, but it is accurate, you just have to be good at aiming.
Maybe I underrated my MG skill, but I personally think my FPS skill is mostly just OK. I expect to miss, or more often go on missing sprees, when playing semi-auto, and I expect to fuck up my spray on autos from time to time.
distant ice
Automod was a mistake
minor fractal
So, like, near skill cap semi-auto and near skill cap auto I would think are comparable.
You could even argue MG has a higher skill ceiling if you want, and I'd say that's a good thing.
Or at least, acceptable.
assuming that skill cap is worth attaining.
wary linden
If you want to think like that whatever.
It is still a fairly long time to kill. A sink of ammo to kill it. And that is using a controlled environment. So during a pratical situation it would be worse since you would need to focus other things too potentially. And that would be even way worse during a low man run
minor fractal
Why do you keep going back to low-man?
To be straight with you, I'm not sure I'd consider that to be worth talking about for balance considerations.
wary linden
Cause you Said you would rather bring an MG as a long Man too
minor fractal
But my personal experience is that in PuG environments, I can carry hardest on MG compared to other things.
Mind you, that's also because people waste a lot of ammo in PuGs.
wary linden
As a 4 Man it Gets a pass cause it would probably only shoot 30 bullets max since others are shooting it
minor fractal
This is specifically runs like C3 where I am spending a significant amount of time soloing waves for certain sections.
W/ sentries technically.
distant ice
From my little experience and only playing as 2-3 people, chargeup just removes that weapon from selection
wary linden
I prefer revolver and solo defend the back while my team clear forward...
distant ice
I'll always get hit if i don't have something to immediately shoot with, it's like a long reload but on weapon switch
Or any fire at all really
wary linden
It impact it a bit... But look at BC
BC was still by far the best duo weapon in r4 ... The best special by far in r4
distant ice
Is your only example the most bullshit weapon in the game
wary linden
The r4 Hel rev though is just busted to no end. Nothing can come close to that iteration of the gun.
minor fractal
I mean, BS, but that charge-up was long af.
I still can't stand burst cancelling it.
wary linden
Even burst canon is not as strong as r4 Hel rev
minor fractal
I can only get those short timings down, anything too long and I just completely lose track of when to push the button.
wary linden
Hel gun too isnt as strong as the r4 Hel rev 🤣
minor fractal
I dunno about that, but R4 HEL Rev is p cracked.
wary linden
The penetration nerf hit the Hel rev the most. That is why it was so busted in r4
minor fractal
A reminder that Legacy buffed the fuck out of everything and said that R4 HEL Rev and BC were about where they should be.
distant ice
Penetration didn't get nerfed as much as you seem to think
High values never worked properly
Realistically you can only hit 3 enemies at most
minor fractal
Wasn't it just a 3-pen?
wary linden
I have gotten some quad kill with kt
minor fractal
Iirc, back in R3 it was basically RNG.
distant ice
1/100
wary linden
But just a pen of 3 is just busted for a primary to Begin with
minor fractal
I was trying to figure out the pen amount back in the underground.
And it would just... not hit sometimes.
It is cracked, yeah, but I don't think it was that good.
Just... way better than anything a Main has ever been.
Including head glitch autos.
Fuck it actually, I don't think Main vs. Special comparisons are meaningful.
Can't be done.
Incoherent.
wary linden
R4 Hel rev. Best wave clearer by far.. and the funny thing is.. the more you stack Them the more instant the wave Gets deleted
minor fractal
Hot take
but I think R4* pre-extension might have actually been a better weapon balance than any other game state.
Sure, everything is very weak for the most part, but I think that might be good for keeping the game challenging.
craggy pier
r2 is really the better weapon balance rd in general
but then they added mini bosses so the more powerful weapons are justified
sort of
minor fractal
I think I probably disagree on the basis that MG and Shotgun in R2 kind of exceed everything else.
And also, if we factor in head glitch, semi-autos Mains are pretty trash.
craggy pier
i don't factor head glitch
winged turtle
i actually have a couple questions about tool in true solo runs (lowman runs in general i guess).
mine, c-foam, bio (lol) are just Not An Option™️, right?
which sentries are viable? i assume burst is most complimentary to stagger/dps waves
craggy pier
anyways, it was relatively balanced compared to r4-6
r3 weapons were kinda balanced too i guess
winged turtle
wow, kinda surprised, i would have figured it boiled down to 2-3 builds
wary linden
There are some maps duos where bio is more important then another tool
winged turtle
ahh that makes sense, are solos relatively solved though?
edit: solo builds*
wary linden
Sniper sentry right now kinda clown on all the tools by itself though rn... It just eats too much tool
Solo is a different kind of playstyle
I get bored in solo quickly so i don't do much testing about it
So i couldnt Say
The current rundown though doesn't seem to have maps that requires specific tools for every missions... Like a lot of maps you could Do by bringing 2 tools only.. some even a single tool is all that you can really need. It's not as diverse as before i feel
neon plaza
yeah I think even E1 can be done with 2-3 tools despite being an E level
only reason for 3 would be the stealth pressure, but even then I've stealthed loads of difficult stuff without bio
craggy pier
current rundown's end date?
wary linden
we are in month number 3 rn
grizzled widget
MFs R7 is going to last over 10 months?!?!
most rundowns take 5-6.
wooden osprey
most rundowns take 5-6.
has flashbacks of R5 having 8
wary linden
r5 was may 29th. so it's closer to 6 months
grizzled widget
MOST
neon gust
Ive usually telly friends
Rundowns feels like dog years
1 rundown = 90 million years
But thats because of stagnant content and lack of events
spark wolf
thanks for the wisdom grandpa
neon gust
You talking like your not a grandpa either
Shotout to me attempting to organize a ingame even with calle and the bosses shut it down
rigid sinew
MFs R7 is going to last over 10 months?!?!
Nah, it's only extensions of R7 from now on
levels not getting kicked out
can't wait for R7:EX:EX:EX:EX:EX:EX:EX:EX:EX:EX
R7 2: back for revenge
cobalt pollen
r69
rigid sinew
R7:EXx10⁶⁹
craggy pier
r7 when or r8
austere falcon
how do you join a group
noble sierra
Checkout #how-to-matchmake
orchid bramble
is C2 a lot harder than C1?
just barely finished C1 yesterday, and im unsure if i can beat C2
cobalt pollen
yes
calm flax
If you join a level that you haven't unlocked yet and finish it, does that count towards your completes? I have all levels unlocked and my friend wants to play a level that he doesn't have unlocked
noble sierra
Yes, the completion counts
calm flax
Yes, the completion counts
does it show up as well
also, does it unlock levels if you get there?
example being: friend joins D1, we finish it, then he finishes C1, will he unlock D2 and E1?
calm flax
cool, thanks
icy cave
example being: friend joins D1, we finish it, then he finishes C1, will he unloc...
No it will not unlock D2 if he only does D1
calm flax
No it will not unlock D2 if he only does D1
no i mean after he does c1
icy cave
It will unlock D2 when he catches up to that completion
icy cave
Yes then he will
icy cave
is C2 a lot harder than C1?
just barely finished C1 yesterday, and im unsure if ...
C2 is fine, it is a step up from C1
calm flax
you need ALL mains
ah
icy cave
i didn't realize
No problem bruv, we get the question a lot. thought I would be ahead of it this time 😅
bright plover
is C2 a lot harder than C1?
just barely finished C1 yesterday, and im unsure if ...
as an average player, who struggled A LOT on C1 because of who knows what reasons, C2 does feel like a step up - although first ever try of C2 we got decently far (much farther than C1 initially, lmao)
but it's a fun level for sure
distant citrus
C2 main or D2 main harder
wooden osprey
C2 main more time consuming D2 main more try and error
if even one person knows D2 you are set for most of it
but C2 needs a bit more
distant citrus
Bit more?
wooden osprey
Bit more?
more teamwork
D2 doesn't rely on teamwork it relies on shooting and one person doing most of the job
distant citrus
but it's similar difficulty blind run?
wooden osprey
Blind run hmmmmmmmm Blind run i have to say C2 is easier
more room for errors
but if you are a new player to gtfo like this is your first rundown
both can't be done on first try (unless you get a experienced crew)
bright plover
both can't be done on first try (unless you get a experienced crew)
I vouch for this, feeling it on my own skin
distant citrus
yeah my crew started last rundown, we had a little difficulty on D2 but we didn't find it that hard
wooden osprey
the only reason i didn't beat C2 on my first ever run on it was because we weren't taking it seriously
bright plover
the only reason i didn't beat C2 on my first ever run on it was because we weren...
and did you go only for main, or the other objectives?
wooden osprey
like if i put it on power scaling
we weren't even using 10% of our gtfo brain power
wooden osprey
and did you go only for main, or the other objectives?
all objectives
we died at overload flyers cause we were too lazy to shoot them xD
bright plover
lul
wooden osprey
C2 overall is harder i say
bright plover
in my opinion, as a new player, C2 Overload looks rough as heck
wooden osprey
D2 again is a trail and error
gentle oracle
if youve never seen most of the enemies in D2 tho its probably harder
wooden osprey
in my opinion, as a new player, C2 Overload looks rough as heck
its not that bad
wooden osprey
if youve never seen most of the enemies in D2 tho its probably harder
true
dealing with a tank/mom is hard for most
on D2
distant citrus
also why was D1 so easy? It was easier than C1 for sure
gentle oracle
tanks and birthers kill inexperienced players on their own
wooden osprey
also why was D1 so easy? It was easier than C1 for sure
main or overload?
distant citrus
main
bright plover
its not that bad
never attempted anything above (or, below better said) C2 at this point 🤣 and even C2 was a first time attempt (failed)
distant citrus
my squad are just doing mains first and then the rest
bright plover
my squad are just doing mains first and then the rest
I need a better squad kek
distant citrus
the overload doesn't seem that hard tbh
wooden osprey
its not suppose to be that much just an error alarm of snatchers every now and than but the problem is YOU CAN GET 4 SNATCHRS AT THE SAME TIME OR MORE THAN 1 BECAUSE BUG
gentle oracle
R3D1 flashbacks
distant citrus
I thought it was 3 every time
bright plover
its not suppose to be that much just an error alarm of snatchers every now and t...
I read it's 4 snatchers every 4 minutes, or can it be a random number per wave?
wooden osprey
I thought it was 3 every time
nope
it was suppose to be 1 snatcher
each 4 minute
gentle oracle
yeah my group would get like 2 usually lol
distant citrus
that's so free
wooden osprey
i managed to beat it with 4 snatchers cause i found a team that was cooked and amazing
bright plover
flashbacks from C1 q.q
wooden osprey
flashbacks from C1 q.q
i really want to show you how easy C1 is
bright plover
for a skilled player, I can figure it's easy - my squad got tormented by C1
wooden osprey
so you get a boost to your GTFO skill points
wooden osprey
for a skilled player, I can figure it's easy - my squad got tormented by C1
bold of you to assume im good at the game xD
bright plover
this is why I joined the disc server, I wanna start playing the game more and with others - need to learn the mechanics
bright plover
bold of you to assume im good at the game xD
it took us around 1 month and a half to finish C1 🤣 however, we do play only on Sundays and around 4-5 hours on the session
literally, we go out of flow every session
gentle oracle
oof
wooden osprey
it took us around 1 month and a half to finish C1 🤣 however, we do play only on...
damnnnnnn
gentle oracle
what were you getting stuck on?
wooden osprey
^^
bright plover
well, it took us a few sessions to get to the GLP section (we'd get wiped often on the Cell door scan OR the fog clearance section).. once we got the hang of that, doing the GLPs was a pain again
until we got the hang on how to approach the sequential rooms
then just 2 sessions on the room scan + extraction
gentle oracle
yeah that would be like the first instance of an error alarm in this rundown (other than extract runbacks) so it can be a bit whelming
bright plover
oh yea, the glp error alarm was rough.. not to mention the gauntlet to extraction 🤣
gentle oracle
yeah that run to extract can just be a death spiral if 1 guy gets downed lol
bright plover
but the main issue is playing only once per week, since we took 2 hours let's say to really get into it... then go out of flow lmao
wooden osprey
oh yea, the glp error alarm was rough.. not to mention the gauntlet to extractio...
the urge to play C1 again is growing please stop
please stop existing ;D
bright plover
the urge to play C1 again is growing please stop
please stop existing ;D
I'll join you for secondaries, I wanna complete more of the game 👀
wooden osprey
I'll join you for secondaries, I wanna complete more of the game 👀
bet when?
bright plover
I only have 5/10 mains and nothing else
wooden osprey
I'm away on holiday until Monday evening, so sometimes next week?
alright time to show the new kids how its done cracks fingers
bright plover
it's about the timezone mostly
wooden osprey
GMT+3 for me but i can do most time zones
bright plover
apparently. I am in GMT+2 now
dapper compass
i'm available for the full day too if you need to fill spots
wooden osprey
can't be NA night time tho ): my body needs sleep
wooden osprey
yeah we should be fine whenever you wanted to be semi-carried tell me
wooden osprey
i'm available for the full day too if you need to fill spots
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