gtfo-related-questions

[torpid ravine]

I have a question. When you complete a mission, for example A1. should you get a skin? because I've nearly completed this rundown and I've only gotten 3 (the ones I haven't completed are E1 and C3).

[minor fractal]

All of the rewards are listed on the the right side of the Rundown menu.

Not every clear counts for anything.

All priority and 3, 6, and 9 Mains give cosmetics.

[torpid ravine]

I have completed 3 and 6. That hasn't given me anything. do you want me to send a pic?

[minor fractal]

Sure.

[torpid ravine]

ima have to send it directly to you

[minor fractal]

Yep

[hardy crane]

Game dev question: how do you handle ai detection? Do you use a sphere colliders to detect objects? Or do you use something else? I am using a findgameobjectswithtag system and it creates garbage which can slow down my game over time

[rigid sinew]

inb4 a dev actually answers

[soft crater]

they're too "Busy Working" on bugfixes

more like Working getting Extension levels tbh

[hardy crane]

Understandable, just wondering tbh

[static dove]

how to do D2 after putting the memory stick in the thingy

[mossy aurora]

[static dove]

i-

i don't know what i expected to be honest haha

i guess a better question is should we stop and shoot things or like, run and shoot things on the way?

[mossy aurora]

if you went tank side for cell, i would not try to extract with the tank still alive, unless you have someone who can kite the tank and the entire wave while you guys extract

[obtuse bobcat]

we went mother side

[static dove]

we went mother side

bruh

[obtuse bobcat]

[ember marlin]

we went mother side

[mossy aurora]

you can try to just run past mom if you can clear babies well, but i think its overall more consistent to clear everything as you move towards extract

you can try everyone just holding onto a 5 use medi each, run to extract and pray

shoot things, if you run out of ammo run in circles while chugging medipacks

[static dove]

amazing 👍

[ember marlin]

we did it 👍🏼

[obtuse bobcat]

turns out running to extraction worked

you just gotta S P R I N T F O R Y O U R L I F E

[weary mesa]

that do be how you beat a level with 150+ resources

[mossy aurora]

did u guys have to chug medis on extract

[craggy pier]

r6a1 hardest a1 because they can come from two sides during the class 3

no other a1 except r2 does that :^)

but r2 had based burst rifle and based shotgun

[spark wolf]

R4A1

2nd alarm

they spawn in the same room but aren't guaranteed to take the same path

pretty much the same layout as R6

but different environment

[wary linden]

R4 and r5 A1 had extreme obj though

[distant ice]

Layers have no business here

[wary linden]

R4 A1 had the dual alarm to Do if you wanted a door... Else you had to deal with one alarm without door.
R5 A1 had S1 scans and more importantly 60% of the level was respawn zones at launch

[wary linden]

Layers did bring some interesting concept for an a1

[spark wolf]

A tier optionals have always been cringe

it doesn't have high enough difficulty to be worth all the extra time they take

or they're short and then just turn off the lights or something stupid

10cc challenge: PE level where the lights stay on and the fog doesn't change

[wary linden]

I could bring r4a2 ... Silent error alarm Spawn that could Spawn in front and trigger almost the whole zone

It was really funny seeing pubs struggle with that back then

Also. The high bulkhead alarm door in r4a1 did have multiple spawns too.. 2 high only, 3 if extreme was open. The alarm is just short enough that it shouldnt be a problem though

[craggy pier]

ok but r4 you had the best version of revolver

no cringe recoil

2 bodyshots to kill strikers

no r5 total ammo nerf

r4 a tier layers were great

you had silent/rapid error as sgx said in a2

and a3 ovl was a hella lot of fun

[neon gust]

You mean the on size fit all revo thats busted on every stat with no downside?

[wary linden]

Heeh people didn't use it Much because BC was the "meta"

[craggy pier]

the only downside was it cannot two shot chargers

speaking of which i wanna try to see if i can solo r4d1 reactor with 15 dmg revolver

[noble sierra]

I feel like pump shotty is the most reliable special in r4d1 solo, tried BC but the charge up time combined with reload speed make it not a high coverage weapon

[neon gust]

Gotta love not 2 pumping giants troughout r4

[craggy pier]

idk i did a 1 hour r4d1ex solo

bc 2ez

[waxen jetty]

enemy animation time > bc chargeup

[craggy pier]

maybe you should use the auto sentry

it is as you said a meta tool in r4

it will help you cope with the charge up time

[noble sierra]

True, I never tried auto with BC. Sounds like a good combination

[weary mesa]

R4D1 without using sniper sentry and only holding in reactor zone

No hel revo or bc

Damn R4 had a lot of shit that made the game easy

[wary linden]

3 weapons...

now look at the op guns

look at all those extra ammopacks

[weary mesa]

What extra ammo packs

You mean reduced amount of alarms

[wary linden]

that too

shorter lvl

[craggy pier]

yea man

instead you should run 4 auto pistols and combat shotguns

and 4 bios

actually bio is a crutch, use cfoam instead

[wary linden]

it's also a crutch. use the burst sentry that misses its target

[craggy pier]

oh yea i forgor burst sentry was a thing

please use burst sentry instead

so it shoots 200 bullets and miss all of them on a charger with the head broken

[weary mesa]

It still does that

[tacit drum]

How much time is there before the next rundown?

[weary mesa]

A lot presumably

[noble sierra]

S∞n

[dry pumice]

I give it 2 more months at least, unless we'll get an extension

[tacit drum]

Perfect thanks

[pulsar herald]

It is like the devs are just not there anymore xD. No Progress in development or something like that... i mean we dont even know if there is any content coming Until end of the year.....

[distant ice]

There was a dev letter or whatever

A long time ago

R8 is supposed to be this year

And the silence is business as usual

[pulsar herald]

I know that r8 should come this year... but still nearly completely silence is mehh

[stoic breach]

Silence is GTFO's model.

[craggy pier]

that's why you should play the game soundless

[stoic breach]

I already do sensei

[soft crater]

Wyvern moment

[vital compass]

silent/silence as in not blasting their heads off... right? i really hope no one plays this game without sound on

[distant ice]

The latter

[lofty stone]

Is it even possible to complete a full rundown without killing anything?

[turbid horizon]

Any rundown other than 6 is technically possible, but it’s something thats practically impossible

[lofty stone]

Requiring supreme tiptoe mastery

[turbid horizon]

well

[lofty stone]

I presume

Wait

Theres alarms

[turbid horizon]

Yes

This is where the practical problems arise

[lofty stone]

Just keep dancin?

[turbid horizon]

Yeah basically that’s what you’d have to do

[lofty stone]

Noted.

[neon gust]

Just spawn cap everything

Have a guy run in circles forever

Abuse cfoam

For s1 alarms

Gg

[wary linden]

nah now you need to walk in circles

[noble sierra]

In R7 there's actually one thing that's doing a great job for anti kiting, non of any other "anti-kiting mechanics/measure"(stamina/respawn zone..etc) can compare

[neon gust]

Stamina stop kiting

But cheese going strong since 1930

[rigid sinew]

why kite when you can C-Foam cheese lol

cheese do be cheesin

honesly, it would be fine on my book if they increased the sleepers range horizontally, but brought back bhopping

at least alarms would be a real threath lol

[mossy aurora]

how does horizontal range relate to bhopping?

[stoic breach]

probably like ass

[rigid sinew]

it doesn't, I just kinda miss it :p

trade one cheese for another cheese

[mossy aurora]

fody...

[sweet fern]

anyone know how "enemy distance" (booster) works?
will it be disabled when enemy enter the 20 meter range?

[open fossil]

I imagine once any enemy is closer than 20 meters it stops working entirely

similar to the other proximity boosters

[viscid wolf]

yes

[sweet fern]

does enemy must be awake?

[open fossil]

feels like it's worded pretty clearly

[sweet fern]

sometimes it just disable for no reason

[open fossil]

also you can see the little booster icons on your hud light up when they're active

[sweet fern]

nah the description only says "must be at least 20 meters away from an enemy"

[viscid wolf]

that's pretty clear

[open fossil]

yeah. "an enemy"

so if there is "an enemy" closer than 20

it don't work

at all

[sweet fern]

huh

[open fossil]

if it was worded as "the enemy" it would imply that as long as the enemy you're shooting is 20+ meters away, it doesn't matter about other nearby sleepers. But because it says "Subject must be at least 20 meters away from an enemy for booster to be active" it means that if there is an enemy closer than 20 meters, the booster won't be active

[sweet fern]

okay i get it now

(english is hard ._.)

[open fossil]

no worries

[stoic breach]

It's any enemy. It's not just tied to the one you're aiming (i.e. Enemy Distance is a terrible booster, drop them all).

[lofty stone]

Unless its 6ft, then you ought to be staying that far away anyways.

These fellas might have the rona

[dry pumice]

It's a very map dependant booster. If you can get away with it - sure, take it, but you'll never know until you actually played the map.

Shits like reactors come to mind, that bridge is perfect for ranged advantage

At the very least you can get a couple of shots in until one of them gets close enough

[stoic breach]

This rundown doesn't have a lot of long lines that can be used, since they tend to be tied with flyers or shadows that can sneak in. It's an amazingly worthless booster. It wasn't even good on R6D1 since 1 flyer turned it off.

[rich charm]

Does anyone else have issues with a random charger running into a room waking everything up when your leaving 4th code? had 2 perfect runs ruining that. we would clear the charger section and nothing would wake up, pablo is way far back not sure if theres an issue there

https://medal.tv/games/gtfo/clips/x0Rssey-FHHjv/d1337af6RZ7k?invite=cr-MSwzSXEsNjQzNjA5MDgs this was the clip of it happening. scout was across the room, no where near them and it woke up

[stoic breach]

known bug, it's just a "git gud" moment

[open fossil]

but also, 2 minutes left, that's gotta be rough

[rich charm]

yay another bug 🥲

[noble sierra]

Happened once, may I ask where you guys defend during 4th code?

[rich charm]

We stay at south door, then when the waves are done we run to the bridge to the 4th code. 2 people branch off the get the code and the other 2 kill tank and other shit. Then clear the charger room

Nothing would get passed

We would have the code, charger room cleared %100

Waiting to put code in and run to the scan

Then the scout would wake up randomly when the other 2 are slowly making their way back

[cobalt pollen]

are you sure they just didnt respawn before you made your way back

[rich charm]

Yes

We would be bumpin with no enemies

Scout would just randomly wake up

It’s silly and I cry every night 🥲

Been at it for a month

Had bad luck with rng for the most part

And when we have good luck that would happen

[noble sierra]

Last time we had the issue, I'm the one clearing chargers in extraction zone and our bio+c-foam players said a big charger came from nowhere and alerted the room. Since it's a big charger it can't be from extraction zone, so I suspect it might be enemies from 4th wave stuck in somewhere but finally freed 2 minutes later

[past mesa]

i have had this happen

[rich charm]

Yeah that’s what we were suspecting but would have no idea where they would get stuck

The clip I showed there was no charger

Nothing woke the scout up and the 2 were leaving from code and was nowhere near the scout

I have no idea what happened there

if enemy stuck on item, clip through in 30 sec boom fixed the issue

[past mesa]

i have had this happen and saw the scout tentacle go red from across the map

[noble sierra]

Your clip seems different, though. You can notice that the baby next to you didn't wake up when the scout is triggered. If the scout is triggered by a charger screaming the baby should be alerted at the same time with the scout

[past mesa]

it has something to do with where the scout stands

[rich charm]

Idk man he was on the opposite side of the room

And woke up

[noble sierra]

Yeah, that's totally bs, can't find a reason for your clip at all

[rich charm]

Grampa scout got fed up with us hiding his newspaper I guess

[craggy pier]

can you make bots c foam and place mine deployers?

[cobalt pollen]

yes

[wary linden]

via the voice line menus.

the c-foam you have to look at the spot you want the bot to c-foam and if he decides to do it properly it will c-foam that spot

the mines and sentries.. you will have the same prompt appear as if you were using those tools... the bots can't jump though so "weird" sentry placement will often not work with them

[fierce nebula]

there's a 70% chance the bot will actually do something anyway cause the AI is kinda shit

[craggy pier]

bro

how do u do the uplink verify?

i don't fucking understand

it was like YO1 HEAR

i input uplink_verify hear

nothing

[cobalt pollen]

what did the terminal ask for

[craggy pier]

to verify the bullshit idk

in b2

in zone 124

near the bloody door

[cobalt pollen]

yeah but like what code did the terminal ask for

you dont type Y01's code when the terminal asks for a complete different keyword

[craggy pier]

the terminal asks for a code?

i dont get it

how does it work

[cobalt pollen]

ok so

when doing that

it will pop up "type X Y Z 0 1 3" the fuck it is

say example; it wants you to type code that matches Y01

[craggy pier]

whatever the terminal asks for is in the terminal written?

[cobalt pollen]

its written in the terminal

[craggy pier]

ok cool i got it now

[cobalt pollen]

then you just tab out of the terminal, check the list of codes on your screen, then go back in the terminal and type it in

[fierce nebula]

that is basically it

[young socket]

cant find a collection case in section b1 and cant ping "collection case" - anything know what to do

legit figured it being silly, didnt use _

[craggy pier]

how strange

[neon plaza]

E2 when?

[grizzled widget]

F1 when?

[dry pumice]

Don't

[thorny creek]

EX when?

[neon plaza]

F1 PE when?

[thorny creek]

R4E1 remake when?

[neon plaza]

R1 re-release when?

I miss R1A1

[thorny creek]

Early Access difficulty when?

[neon plaza]

difficulty when?

make more levels E1 difficulty

[icy cave]

It was never gone

[thorny creek]

Second R7 patch when?

[neon plaza]

yeah but I can't talk abt that here

I don't think I can

[cinder loom]

what are the "other options" in b3

[thorny creek]

Other options?

[cinder loom]

ye when you progress past the cluster scan power cuts out and it says "proceed to zone 110 or explore for options"

[thorny creek]

There is a terminal where you can input a command to turn the lights back on

Don't remember where it is exactly

But you have the option

[open fossil]

When killing a sleeper that doesn't have nearby enemies, aka no proximity aggro. Are the requirements for Long-range aggro to trigger the sleeper needs to be within 15m and facing the sleeper that was just killed

just want to make sure

[mossy aurora]

has to be in the glowing or pulsing state, it can happen right at the beginning of the first glowing state so it will look like it just woke up randomly

[noble sierra]

Long-range aggroed one has to be facing the dead sleeper?

[wary linden]

No it doesn't need to be facing it

[open fossil]

for sure it doesn't have to be facing? Thought that originally, then went and checked the wiki, which said otherwise. So hoped in game and the facing / Line of sight thing seems at least somewhat accurate. Anyone able to confirm that for sure or not. Unless chance of long range Aggro is also random and that's just how the chances were

nvm, seems to in-fact not matter, but is the chance of Long Aggro random?

[mossy aurora]

yes it is random

i think some have said that knife has a lower chance to proc a long range aggro, im not sure about that one though

[distant ice]

The chance is not random but it is chance 🤔 it's a set probability

Yes knife is less likely

Ray posted a stealth guide in #guides-and-reviews

[soft crater]

RNG

I've personally looked at it more like a chance to trigger over the word Random

[cobalt pollen]

RNGesus hates you

[soft crater]

more like when I see someone not using knife kill enemies that are lit and nearby but not wake up

I'm just like. you got lucky

[stoic breach]

just remove the rng by making one pulse next to the one you want to hit.

[distant ice]

That doesn't remove the rng of whether something will alert, it just removes the rng of not knowing which one might alert

[open fossil]

so i'm reading Ray's guide, and also looking at the wiki (Which I wouldn't be surprised if it's outdated). Says Long range aggro is 15m, but guide says 13m, which i'll believe. Though the wiki says "The long-range aggro can not happen if at least one enemy already woke (either by the proximity aggro or by the long-range aggro), and have a grace period of few seconds after that". Specifically the bold part, is that because awake sleepers have almost no affect on nearby, still dormant sleepers? Or is it referring to an actual cooldown for long range aggro. Wording is abit odd. But also to what extend do dormant enemies just straight up ignore awake enemies? Mostly a question for you mate @minor fractal

[distant ice]

To full extent except for the first scream basically

Also just ignore the wiki

As for distances they can be skewed a bit thanks to how the game rounds it

[open fossil]

so basically, beating a awake sleeper to death, right in front of a sleeping sleeper. Does nothing to bother em

[distant ice]

Yes

You can just keep pushing them to infinity and beyond for example

[open fossil]

Neat. Honestly don't think i've ever seen a game with this much incorrect information about it spread around. Makes it an absolute pain in the ass to construct any sort of informative content

Took me months just to find out sentry back dmg just ceased to exist

[icy cave]

That one was in the patch notes tho

[cobalt pollen]

no back damage for sentries

[open fossil]

what am I suppose to do, read?

[cobalt pollen]

[distant ice]

Game does a good job at misleading people

[icy cave]

Well when you put it that way 😅

[open fossil]

Glad I only found out about the whole hacking tool bio scan speed thing through the jokes about it. Sounds like it would've been suffering dealing with that misinformation

[cobalt pollen]

LMAO

[open fossil]

but now I get to enjoy useless tips on how to avoid checkpoint bugs that may or may not work. Bordering on snake oil type of nonsense. Thankfully I already know the best tip to avoid checkpoint bugs, which is just not using them

[mossy aurora]

there used to be a booster for this though

[open fossil]

heard that's what the rumor stemmed from

[distant ice]

No, the booster was made as a joke because of the rumor

[mossy aurora]

one of the funnier ones i've heard in lfg games is that t-bagging in the scan makes it go faster because your standing and crouching models tick the scan independently

[open fossil]

thoroughly confused at this point

[icy cave]

Ah I heard that one back in R5

[open fossil]

The plausible bugginess behind it is really what sells it

[soft crater]

Nah If you spin in a circle it goes faster

Also glow sticks and fog repellers can wake up enemies

kek

[gentle tendon]

Making loud sounds into your mic can wake up enemies

[dry pumice]

Guilty of that one for the first week or two

Which would be cool but...

[daring fog]

not fun if you have to communicate cause your team doesnt use ingame chat ^^

[winter viper]

Would anyone know when this rundown ends as I cannot find the countdown

[minor fractal]

Probably won't be a countdown until 2 weeks prior.

Rundowns tend to last 5-6 months each.

[winter viper]

Oh thank you that helps a lot, I have been looking for a ghost

[wary linden]

6-7 months if extended... Though if we get an extension it should be in around a month now is my guess...

[distant ice]

it can't be 6-7 months because they said R8 2022

[wary linden]

6-7 months is the length we got from other extended rundowns

[grizzled widget]

saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaauce?

[wary linden]

Roadmap back then showed R8 2022

[grizzled widget]

back when

[wary linden]

Back when r7 was about to launch/launching

I'm sure someone has the image or link in question

[grizzled widget]

we will probably be waiting for quite some time. 6.5 only got to r7 so fast because r6 and r7 were worked on at the same time

albiet, on different builds of the game

though i'm not sure how much time we have left on that since r7 launched.

[wary linden]

R6 was still out for like 6 months still though

[grizzled widget]

yes.

6.5 came out april 12th, r7 came out june 16th

in 2 months

December(r6 launch) to April was only 4-5 months, (closer to 4+1/2)

so in total about 7 between r6 and r7, but i'd still consider extensions to be major updates.

[silver fable]

December is 6 months from June

I would be very surprised by an r8 release prior to December

[distant ice]

I kinda read that wrong

[silver fable]

fwiw I'd prefer they push the launch back to February 2023 rather than release a broken rundown in December

[distant ice]

As if they'd ever do that

[silver fable]

not that you can necessarily put a fixed amount of time on quality assurance

but at least they'd be back from whatever holiday they have in January or whenever

[verbal zinc]

#game-announcements message

[distant ice]

"we don't announce exact dates because we want to release content when we're sure it's ready"

[verbal zinc]

r8 2022

hype

[distant ice]

Releases broken content anyway

[verbal zinc]

the roadmap doesnt lie!

[grizzled widget]

its not on the roadmap anymore tho

i just checked

[craggy pier]

is there a higher quality of this?

cant read any of it

[verbal zinc]

just open it in your browser (bottom left)

u can zoom in there

[craggy pier]

tried zooming but still blurry

opened original tho so thanks

[verbal zinc]

theres nothing in there except for r8 in 2022 anyway

if thats even true lol

[fierce nebula]

R8 release in 2022(+1)

honestly R7 is just not that replayable except for D2

[craggy pier]

how so?

[dapper compass]

Me with my 14 A1, 13 B1, 8 C1 and 9 B2+sec:

[dry pumice]

I just enjoy shooting monsters.

[viscid wolf]

where E

[dapper compass]

Carry me please

I still need to finish E1

Tried a lot, even tried drunk

[viscid wolf]

gomen school

[dapper compass]

dw I can't play until tomorrow evening when I get back home

[vital compass]

what does it mean when it says 1-4M in the lfg chats?

[cobalt pollen]

1 - 4 more

lf1m = looking for 1 more

[vital compass]

thx

i thought it meant something else

[dry pumice]

Male 🤔

[craggy pier]

looking for 4 Males c3pe

[rigid sinew]

LFM (looking for monkey)

[viscid wolf]

looking for money

[fierce nebula]

looking for mom

[craggy pier]

metooman

[viscid wolf]

looking for msegs

[neon plaza]

looking for m

[soft crater]

-LOOKING FOR MEN

MISS ME WITH THOSE BEINGS CALLED WOMEN

NEED ME SOME HOMIES

[rough beacon]

Hey I got two questions,

Does looking around wake sleepers?

and how long do I have before a sleeper wakes everyone else?

[stoic breach]

It can with a flashlight.

Sleeper screams have slightly different times of when they scream depending on their starting position.

Iirc its all still around 1-2 seconds.

[soft crater]

soft alerts vs hard alerts

hard alerts they turn and attack you right away vs taking 1-2 seconds to wake up and then attack you

[rough beacon]

Gotcha

Im only asking because I tend to take on bigger groups on my own so I want to be able to take out a cluster without waking up a whole room

[stoic breach]

There was whole long range aggro convo earlier. Dont think about it too much. Hop into D1 and try solo clearing.

[soft crater]

one major factor would be your melee weapon (know charge times and how much is needed to kill from weakpoints)
pulsing/lit up enemies nearby

also knowing when to walk and when not to (walk if you're used to stealthing with it and know pulse timings to a good degree.)
Otherwise take it slower with crouched movement

[rough beacon]

yeah im to the point where I can walk around

[soft crater]

if it's hammer I can help for the most part

I haven't really nailed down the charge times for other weapons needed to kill

[stoic breach]

Knife just always go to full, bat needs generally half for the back of the head or 3/4s, Spear is generally all.

[soft crater]

spear is actually similar to hammer besides that it can't body anything from the front

also no sprinting but you don't wanna sprint for stealth unless you can utilize jumps in your stealth

[rough beacon]

Yeah I really want to learn jumps

[stoic breach]

It's incredibly niche doesn't do much besides scream cancelling

[soft crater]

I would say using jumps in stealth is really unique to just getting distance closer quicker

but otherwise don't do it

[rough beacon]

Should I stick to walking then?

[soft crater]

ye

[stoic breach]

Bhopping to kills is so limitrd for uses just dont learn it.

[soft crater]

I jump personally

not bhops though

those are so iffy to do

[stoic breach]

9/10 you get bhop kills by elevation differences or bhopping when someone else opens a door you sneak under and the game believes the door is closed.

[soft crater]

certain distances and enemy numbers I'll find the right distance and get a sprint jump (holding space will also make you jump ever so slightly higher and further)

[stoic breach]

Sure. Not my playstyle, but that would work.

[soft crater]

It's more a monkey stealth thing so it isn't required

[stoic breach]

Again, elevenn dont think about most of these things, just go to a level and kill stuff.

[soft crater]

It's become habit for me now for closing distance in certain situations quicker

[rough beacon]

yeah im currently in c1 practicing on giants

[stoic breach]

Good enough. You can solo stealth giants by making them repeat their melee animation, and never scream.

But thats way too much work.

[soft crater]

iirc giants need like a 75%-80% hammer charge for dmg staggers

I despise having gotten used to hammer charge times ngl

makes it difficult for me to use other weapons

[rough beacon]

I tend to pop there head while they are still sleeping

then I go for there stun points

but

[soft crater]

that's ideal as it'll limb stagger/cause the most damage initially

[rough beacon]

I get hit about half the time because I cant charge my hammer before the first hit

like

after I get that initial head pop

[soft crater]

yeah you gotta charge immediately after hits and find the sweet spot in distancing

how fast it'll die depends if you're hitting it from behind or from the front

[rough beacon]

so I dont have to charge fully to break stun points?

[soft crater]

about 75% for damage staggers

but limb break staggers make them stumble for a bit longer

I'd just go for limb breaks to play it safe

[rough beacon]

yeah I go for the legs

then the pelvis

[soft crater]

the weakspot of men

[rough beacon]

yes

anyways thanks for the help

[soft crater]

np

[rough beacon]

actually one more thing

is it worth it to try to melee a scout with seafoam?

[soft crater]

c-foam is a safe option

[rough beacon]

yeah but my team doesnt usually run seafoam and one of my squad mates is really trigger happy

[soft crater]

depending on the timing. but if you miss/miss the head charge immediately for a follow up hit to kill

[rough beacon]

gotcha

Im guess im just too scared to push in so I let my mine guy take care of it

[soft crater]

yeah melee killing scouts is a nice skill to develop

most of it is getting over the fear of waking the scout

it becomes more fearsome depending on the sleepers nearby as well

[rough beacon]

yeah usually im fine with scouts but there are rooms in c1 where its a bunch of scouts surrounded with giants

but I'll definitely try to keep that in mind

[soft crater]

I presume that is the fog turn off zone

[rough beacon]

yes

[sharp sable]

anyone able to recommend how to replicate the ui, art style used, tryna make edits and stuff, art team really outdid themselves when making this icl

[smoky fulcrum]

Hello, my friend and I are in B1 and we have to locate the collection case in zone 93, but we can't find it. anybody know where we can find it?

[grizzled widget]

right next to the door on the left side is a terminal

type "PING COLLECTION_CASE"

add a -t if you want it to loop the command

(i think that's the thing for loop anyway)

[wide spear]

THANK YOU

[grizzled widget]

if you type "LIST CASE" it should show it for you to either ping or query

it is the same for all objective items, even keys

(not list case, but you know what i mean. list key, list cell, etc)

[smoky fulcrum]

ok, thanks, very helpful.

[wide spear]

we owe you one

[grizzled widget]

i'm always in #gtfo-lore if you have questions about the lore, gameplay isn't exactly my strong suit, but i can help you in that regard all day

[open fossil]

Just want to check. Alarm and Scout waves still (usually) follow the two rooms away rule right? And if so does anyone have a in-depth guide on this information?

[jaunty bear]

yes

no

[craggy pier]

usually not always

uplinks are different, flyer scripted spawns are different

there's always the scripted snatcher spawns in e1

and b1 and c2 1st and arena scan spawning 1 room away

[tardy ingot]

I mean uplinks are just with an added priority (same zone) on top (only single uplinks tho)

[craggy pier]

ok but depending on the zone, they spawn 1 room away

r4b3 high, r6b2ex

[open fossil]

But Scout waves, and most alarm/security doors follow the rule unless scripted to do otherwise?

cause it still seems at least somewhat consist while playing with exceptions

[craggy pier]

yea unless you're all 2 rooms away from each other

[tardy ingot]

yeah. But generally the ruleset is still 2 rooms if possible for uplinks

In the same way you can also force some alarms to spawn enemys 1 room away if you spread out (tho thats less natural)

[craggy pier]

so they spawn in between or on you

[tardy ingot]

yeah. Rule of 2 is generally how stuff works

[open fossil]

right. Picks a random player and spawns enemies 2 rooms away. Ignoring other player positions

[minor fractal]

Uplinks are still 2 away, just the available rooms are a smaller pool.

[tardy ingot]

and outside r7b1 it doesnt rly impact it (c2 one rly doesnt change anything)

[craggy pier]

b1 doesn't really impact it

[dapper compass]

R7B3 does that a lot but it's really manageable

[open fossil]

So for example, R7B1 after powering up the generator. It spawns in the zone 1 room away that originally had the battery in it. Any particular reason?

[dapper compass]

Uuuh

B1 sorry

[dapper compass]

To mess you up with two unlocked doors

[open fossil]

so it's scripted to specifically do that then

[dapper compass]

They also spawn 1 room away on the other side

[open fossil]

oh fr?

[dapper compass]

Yes

[tardy ingot]

oh it does
it makes it harder to realize spawning patterns for newer people, makes setting up feel worse and can fuck you up incredibly hard if a scan is close to the entrance security door and a giant spawns right THERE (gets slapped)

[craggy pier]

newer people will just set up both sides

[open fossil]

So final thing then... Would suggesting/teaching the 2 room spawning be a bad thing

[tardy ingot]

Depends. Those who have been on a lookout wouldve realized that they spawn 2 rooms away. And other who just start doing that then will be confused af

Idk why they didnt just put a 2nd room there

[tardy ingot]

its a thing to figure out and definetly something people need to learn for planning

There are special rules (flyers/uplinks specifically) but the normal 1 room away spawns are a rarity

[craggy pier]

it's only really affecting for newer players because they got taught this early on

:^)

[dapper compass]

Don't teach them, teach them how to learn

[tardy ingot]

i mean generally i only teach people (or hint them towards stuff) when they legit havent been able to learn anything yet

placing 3 sentries facing into the scan security door on B3

Yep definetly gonna work

[open fossil]

that's a very deep and philosophical answer. But to put it bluntly. If I make a video, that very loosely goes over game mechanics, should it be mentioned

Just want to know if it's really a valid bit of information to be learned nowadays or not

Or if there's alot of exceptions to the rule and it's probably best to let them figure it out themselves at this point

[tardy ingot]

well yeah

theres been exceptions pretty much every rundown. But its a good baseline to work with

[open fossil]

aight. I'll let em figure it out themselves. part of the experience of the game or something like that

[tardy ingot]

i mean iirc prof scaler talks about it in every guide. So you should definetly hint to it and the general rule but that theres always exceptions

[stoic breach]

Thats the fundamentals of teaching. Giving actionable examples to bolster fundamental ideas. Exceptions to the rule aren't really important to highlight, unless you're literally about to encounter/exemplify it or tie into another detail.

[distant ice]

exceptions are pretty common these days so you're just setting people up for frustration thanks to a random rule change if you don't mention it

there is 0 indication that that can happen, before it happens

"game taught me this and now it did the opposite for absolutely no reason"

[craggy pier]

i just don't teach ez

adaptability, time management and dealing with pressure are what makes expeditions and to some sense gtfo cool

teaching people just removes those aspects and make the gameplay experience more streamlined and mundane

[open fossil]

oh good, It's more just a mess of nonsense covering the game rather than a guide so that works out

[stuck orchid]

Anyone tried out the sniper melee patch yet? How does it feel?

[distant ice]

wesley seems to approve it so i assume it works

[stuck orchid]

Cool, can’t wait to see it myself

[pulsar sage]

What is it about those enemy Position desyncs? i never really noticed those, is it a fix for anything related?

[open fossil]

sniper melee

[late girder]

Basically it's what's on the tin, the enemy isn't in the same place for host and client. Client ends up getting hit by things they think should not be there, because by their view it should not have. It was a very very frustrating bug.

Glad for the band aid, if you hosted more than you were client you may not have noticed it.

[pulsar sage]

Oh i See, heard of this one before

Ty

[pulsar sage]

Hmm mostly Not hosting but anyways does this also Help with the chargermelee range? Never paid attention to wether i was host or not for that one

[rigid sinew]

yes

to an extent

[late girder]

if you forget about the teleporting

but yeah it will help

[pulsar sage]

ok xD

[drifting orbit]

The charger melee range being long is essentially the desync bug

[minor fractal]

Can confirm, it seems to be at least as good as SniperMeleeFix.

Doesn't appear to have extra networking as far as I can tell.

[lusty bramble]

as good?

you mean it IS the fix

[mossy aurora]

It could have been tweaked a bit

[tacit zealot]

there is still an intentional delay to prevent jitteriness that was present at start of r6

this + network latency still will cause some form of "sniper melee" in the form of enemies being desynced

but there's nothing you can do about it

the fix the Devs implemented is straight from SniperMeleeFix, so Ray is correct, it is exactly as good as Mccad's plugin

[dry pumice]

So they just made a mod an official feature for the time being

Took them hilariously long though, but I'm still thankful

Should I like... Replay the entire rundown to see how it feels like to play for real?

[icy cave]

Yes

[tacit zealot]

Yes, however the mod is a fix. It sound like you are down playing the Dev, by saying that they are just adding someone else’s mod, however it is the only fix.

[soft crater]

[neon plaza]

what's a sleeper?

[cobalt pollen]

person who sleeps

[neon plaza]

I sleep sometimes

am I a sleeper?

[verbal zinc]

you're a waker rn

[neon plaza]

prove it

sleep typing

[wary linden]

the fact that you can read the messages

[neon plaza]

sleep-sentient too

I'm reading through my eyelids

because my screen produces light

[verbal zinc]

[random void]

Braille screen

[plucky mauve]

Is it useful to foam a charger scout ? Or does it call the horde when you hit it the first time ?

[craggy pier]

yes cfoam will freeze them so you have 8 secs to kill it

2 full hammer charges from the back kill it

[plucky mauve]

okey ty

[craggy pier]

regular and shadow scouts also freeze for 8 secs

any time

[neon plaza]

can't wait for charger and shadow snatcher

or whatever people call it

it's clearly a dog

[floral acorn]

baby snatcher == poodle.

[sweet fern]

can sniper sentry 1 shot scout🤔

[obsidian depot]

Wait did they fix doorbug lmao

[sweet fern]

apparently not

[obsidian depot]

Epic fixed sound bug moment

[sweet fern]

well least the c-foam method no longer works

[obsidian depot]

Pog

Bugs finally getting fixed

[sweet fern]

nah, just break the door when it began closing

bit harder to execute, but its still there

[obsidian depot]

I thought D0c said that the mod fix wasn't what they were looking for and didn't fix the issue

[open fossil]

hence it's referred to as a bandaid fix

makes things better, but probably doesn't actually get to the root of the problem itself

[obsidian depot]

So what is the root of the problem

[open fossil]

Latency, Host to Client connection, probably something like that

[obsidian depot]

That mccads mod hasn't gotten rid of

That's not sniper melee

Latency=/= sniper melee

[open fossil]

Host sees one thing, Client sees another. That is sniper melee

[obsidian depot]

Yes

And it's not a latency issue

You can get sniper melee on 30ms ping

?

[open fossil]

shockingly they're not aware of what the root problem behind sniper melee is, otherwise they likely would've solved it. What I said was just a guess

Since Host to Client connection seems to be the problem behind alot of bugs

[obsidian depot]

Lmao

Legit just go and watch mccads video

On what sniper melee actually is

Because the word gets misused so much that everyone things getting hit because of latency is sniper melee

It's not

[open fossil]

neat. So what's the root problem behind sniper melee?

[stoic breach]

Go watch Mccads video

[obsidian depot]

^

It's like 5 minutes, and it'll explain it better than anyone here

[open fossil]

No i've seen it. Buffer something yada yada. Mccad's fix moves the sleeper position to the end of the buffer rather than the center of the buffer or something

what i'm say, is more than likely the reason the devs aren't completely sold on the fix that mccad Provided is because that's not the only reason the problem is happening. But I don't know game dev so who knows. Maybe the devs are just spiteful

Obviously the very existence of the bug is from the position buffer added in R6.5(If I recall correctly). So the easiest fix would likely be removing it. But the devs added it, as Mccad said, to help when the host can't send packets to the client

so they're trying to fix what they've created because they still want it to serve it's purpose, which it wasn't doing. and Mccad's fix is a step in the right direction, or something like that

This entire group of sentences is speculation I don't know anything at all

👍

[noble sierra]

Mccad's video explained the root cause about position desync. Mccad's solution however, did revert a little position buffer feature's intention: prevent animation jitter on bad connection lobby. So if playing with bad connection host after applying SniperMeleeFix you can see animation jitters come back.

However by making animation smooth in relatively small portion of the games, position desync happened in every game regardless the connection quality. Not a worthwhile trade-off.

The "proper solution" need to resolve the position desync while keep the animation smooth in a bad connection lobby, which is considered hard and costly to do. Like offload enemy attack and many other calculation to the client as well, or a predict/rollback netcode.

[minor fractal]

I still stand by the belief that jitter is largely implementation independent.

[open fossil]

Thank you, very cool

[tacit zealot]

He’s not qualified to speak on a lot of things

[obsidian depot]

D1 is finished, and it doesn't have a memory leak.
It's just a large level with a lot of things going on.

[obsidian depot]

Skill issue tbh

[gaunt prawn]

Does anyone have a recommended channel for info on the rundown such as how to clear each level?

[icy cave]

Professor Scaler on Youtube

[neon plaza]

speedruns for that level

[bold ginkgo]

I completed all of the secondary objectives for this rundown but didn't get the overdive palette, is that supposed to happen?

[icy cave]

I think that was R6 man

[bold ginkgo]

huh oh well

[neon plaza]

previous rundown moment

[bold ginkgo]

the wiki doesnt say it was rundown specific

[icy cave]

no but it was a reward for completing all secs in R6

not in R7

[bold ginkgo]

yeah figured

[icy cave]

thus making it Rundown specific untill meaby one day in R8 or R9 they throw it back in the pool

[icy cave]

ripperino

[teal hill]

Maybe this question has already been answered but, does anyone know when will rundown 7.0 end?

[craggy pier]

in a few months, possibly longer

[teal hill]

Good to know. I thought it was going to be the 23rd of August since the announcement of the exclusive helmet said that the "event" ended that day

Thank you so much!

[spark wolf]

it also specifically said in the announcement thats not the case

[final sun]

what's the best level for farming this rundown

all of my boosters are for like

fog repellers

or glowsticks

[icy cave]

there is never a need for farming boosters

[final sun]

C3 is busting my balls and i really want some sweet sweet supply efficiency

either that or melee damage

[icy cave]

even C3 does not require any boosters

But ok sigh

[final sun]

yeah i know it doesn't

[icy cave]

A1 and B1 then I guess

[final sun]

vodka doesn't need any chaser but it still helps

thanks

[cobalt pollen]

just use all 3 slots for melee damage boosters

[final sun]

what melee boosters homie

[cobalt pollen]

melee damage

[final sun]

yeah i know i just Don't Got None

[cobalt pollen]

if you can get the total sum over 100% you can technically 1 shot a big striker at occiput

[distant gate]

Git Gud

[dry pumice]

I imagine B2 and B3 are best options. Maybe C2?

[final sun]

no

[dry pumice]

Anything that has a secondary objective, basically. I noticed crap ton of artifacts tend to spawn in secondary zones.

[final sun]

nononono

not C2

deeeffinitely not C2

[dry pumice]

Don't forget about artifact heat.

[final sun]

C2 is a fun level it's just not a good farming level

[dry pumice]

It's a mechanics specifically to counter artifact grinding

[final sun]

yeah

[dry pumice]

Just play different levels

[final sun]

B2 B1 and A1 seem best

[dry pumice]

Yeah, basically.

Just stroll over casually, loot everything

[icy cave]

grab an artifact and sip from coktail

[teal hill]

Wow, that's right. I stopped reading the announcement when they mentioned the sale. I feel stupid now 😂

[tawny ledge]

Can you still invite people when you already at a checkpoint?

[craggy pier]

yes anyone can join at any point of the game except for c3 when you are on the run

[rough beacon]

weird question

sometimes when I use the bioscanner

I see small red dots instead of white dots?

what does this mean?

[neon gust]

bUG

Been there since 1245

[rough beacon]

ohh...

thats annoying lol

[soft crater]

[daring fog]

fun how there is now a bug again that scout scream spawns enemies but STOPS ALL ENEMIES FROM MOVING

[daring fog]

this leads to quite some fun clips

[soft crater]

[silent sphinx]

Hey so since I'll be missing out on the Exclusive helmet cause E1 is hell... will it come back in future time or maybe on the extension?

[open fossil]

unlikely

though nobody really knows. We've only had cosmetics since R6. And with only a couple limit cosmetics so far

[shrewd dirge]

quite unlikely.

im sure people would be pissed if it did come back

[open fossil]

but you've still got at the very least.. months to get it

the next rundown/extension hasn't even been announced yet

[shrewd dirge]

the other time limited freebies i care less about though

[full sundial]

you've got time to try it more, don't give up hope yet, I just got my first completion today

cheesed win, but still won, gonna retry it normal ways later

[open fossil]

Oblique Tigris was only worth getting when it was just straight up flat white. A classic

[mossy aurora]

michelin man mask

[rigid sinew]

C-Foam man

[mossy aurora]

r6 c foam man should be yellow though

🤢

[rigid sinew]

why it yellow doe 🤔

[soft crater]

+ Sussy Foam

[silent sphinx]

Oh it says it ends this month on the 24 or you meaning it will stay until end of extension

[noble sierra]

Read the full paragraph

[silent sphinx]

Ah makes sense. Thanks

[open fossil]

additionally though it is likely to stay til the end of Ext, should one exist. As the requirements are simply beating all 10 main, which won't got away with the edition of an extension

[silent sphinx]

Oh wait so basically if the extension comes I can just do a different extension level which will count towards the helmet

[icy cave]

You still have 2 months

Just relax and grind E1 away

[dusky tiger]

My first E tier completion and the level is being compared to d tier
I am afraid to ask how hard the older ones were

[vital sierra]

R4 > R5 > R2 > R7

R1 R3 and R6 don't have an E tier

[icy cave]

Honestly R5 C tier wipes the floor with anything in R7 R6 already. Altho R4E1 stays the hardest level till date

[dusky tiger]

Never got around to playing the r5 c tiers that much

The team I used to play with gave up on C2

I miss infinite stamina

[obsidian depot]

R2E1 was a cake walk if you had a hard carry like captain alpha on your team though

;^)

[vital sierra]

imma blast your back and do a circle kite

[obsidian depot]

yessir

I love getting pumped by Captain Alpha ❤️

[vital sierra]

[icy cave]

It's never too late 👀

[tardy ingot]

id disagree with r5c3. It was by far the easiest of the c levels
C1 and c2 were pretty tough tho, especially pre nerf

[icy cave]

You disagree with me, just because its me

But yeah R5C3 is not that bad

[tardy ingot]

no if i would disagree with you because its you then id say the levels were easy wth biotrackwr

[icy cave]

TBF on R5C1Ex a bio is definitely a good help

[neon gust]

"Carry"

[obsidian depot]

:^)

[soft crater]

A Big Daddy Black Dragon to Be our Alpha Captain Hard Carry

[neon gust]

I hope yoy find solace within the hornyness

🙏

[neon gust]

Black dragon meets alpha incident (circa 2019)

[lusty bramble]

I don't remember how I met black dragon

I think he just started existing and has been gaslighting me ever since

I wish I got to meet captain alpha

But I suppose making him feel self conscious of his payday rng modifier speed runs will be the closest I'll get

[spark crane]

Hey on level D1 what changes if we activate Overload on the bulkhead key?

Looking at the map it's just a small room, but what changes in the overall gameplay?

[noble sierra]

Fog and dog

[icy cave]

Snatcher every 4 min

[dusky tiger]

Does desync still effect snatcher spawns?

4 snatchers at once has traumatized me

[noble sierra]

Still got a 2 snatchers run today so I guess yes

[dusky tiger]

Joy

[fierce nebula]

PATCH 3

[icy cave]

have everyone disconnect. do command. have everyone reconnect

Enjoy 1 snatcher

[wary linden]

3 snatchers during shadow class X and charger class X is fun though

[dusky tiger]

Snatchers during alarms is not fun imo

Especially when u get teleported to the black box

[icy cave]

It is the way of Life onward

[wary linden]

It creates funny situation

[dusky tiger]

I dont think I've ever done an overload run or main run for D1 through the x alarm route
All the pubs just jump for the error route

[wary linden]

Also if they arent in alarms then they will never be a danger... Just a waste of time

[icy cave]

We did Error AND sneaking tank + mothers with overload on. Took 1.5 hour

[wary linden]

Them being in alarms is what makes them dangerous

[dusky tiger]

Tru

[dusky tiger]

Why both?

[icy cave]

More fun

[dusky tiger]

Doesnt they key spawn in one of the areas

Ahh

;p

[icy cave]

And we woke up tanks and a mommy 🙂

[dusky tiger]

I've had all my keys spawn in the mother room

Woke up both mothers cuz why not

We have the ammo

[icy cave]

Still only 1.5 hrs and more than enough resources

[dusky tiger]

The end part is sorta generous

[icy cave]

D1 is not that bad

very manageable

[wary linden]

The level gives too much resources if you take any of the side paths

If you do both class X then you have just enough

[icy cave]

Take both and swim in them

Altho not as many as D2 😅

[wary linden]

D2 kiting for 15+ minutes not dying

[dusky tiger]

D2 was a fun time

Pdw sniper

Blood doors are no more

[icy cave]

D2 is a refreshing level after the rest of the rundown

[dusky tiger]

It really is

[icy cave]

But once you know it .... well you know it

[dusky tiger]

I think the only run that we gave up on was when 4 tanks would spawn when the "safe time" would run out after the terminal command

I'm not sure if they spawned

Or if the horde woke the others one up

Either way
Not a pleasant time

[icy cave]

They didn't you pulled tank zone

Killing 5 tanks in 25 min is fun tho

[wary linden]

Ok but what about Pmom

She isn't getting any love

[dusky tiger]

Pmoms are bad and dumb and stupid

[icy cave]

You just salty

[dusky tiger]

Had a question,do they spawn more babies than regular mothers?

[icy cave]

At least they are sleeping this time. Before they were always awake

[icy cave]

Yes

[turbid horizon]

30 right?

[dusky tiger]

When my sniper rifle doesnt pop a tumour in 1 shot
Angy

[icy cave]

30 or 35 don't recall

[dusky tiger]

That's

Alot

Fuckin hell

[wary linden]

You got weapons like machine gun though that just go through them all

[dusky tiger]

Hel shotgun save me

[icy cave]

Hasta la vista babies

[dusky tiger]

Hel shotgun choke mod shotgun

Top tier loadout

[wary linden]

Choke mod. Instantly not top tier

[dusky tiger]

Its ok

[icy cave]

How to be a crutch for your team

[dusky tiger]

I mean

Worked out for e1

And c3

So I'll take it I guess

[lusty bramble]

Birther is 20 pbirther is 30

[wary linden]

It's pretty bad at everything except some niche things where it excels... Too bad it's in uncommon situations

[dusky tiger]

Corner camp

Pick off horde stragglers

Stun the rest

[wary linden]

Talking about choke here

[dusky tiger]

Ih

I thought the choke mod was good all around
4 shells
Decent dmg and decent dmg fall off

[wary linden]

4 shells

[dusky tiger]

Hm

Not the worst thing in the world tbh

[wary linden]

You are contantly reloading the thing

And the ammo pool is pretty low ...

[cobalt pollen]

me when i just use mg or hcp

or pr

[wary linden]

At least you get to shoot more since you have a bigger clip

[cobalt pollen]

only time i carry hcp is when i dont trust the lobby i got mm'd in

[wary linden]

Also hcp bigger clip, more ammo total...

[cobalt pollen]

so i can just forcefully wipe them and restart

i am a menace

[dusky tiger]

I dont think I used the high cal past b3

It felt wonky at range
Ik it's supposed to be used sorta close up,but I'm firing a deagle

[cobalt pollen]

my commonly used loadout is just ar/mg now

[dusky tiger]

Chad loadout

[cobalt pollen]

tool depends on what everyone else brings

[dusky tiger]

I like the mine deployer

Sometimes c-foam

Funny laser of death

[cobalt pollen]

commonly carry sentry

occasional bio

[dusky tiger]

Sniper sentry this rundown wass

sumthin

In most of the pubs I never saw the burst being used

[cobalt pollen]

no back damage sentry bonus

😔

[dusky tiger]

Sadge

That used to be a thing,right?

[cobalt pollen]

dont know

if it was then shame that it got removed

[icy cave]

It was pre-R6

Or I should say it is 👀

[soft crater]

Sniper sentry one shotting giants in occi

Oh no. ALL SENTRY NEED BACK DMG NERF

[wary linden]

obv it was a bug

[soft crater]

Everything they dont deem as a feature

Is a bug

[distant ice]

not that that was the reason for removing back damage

[soft crater]

[distant ice]

no back damage on sentries makes sense

[obsidian surge]

Was there a change to this C2 sublimation?

I played it once and it had infectious fog but now it's completely covered in fog

[dry pumice]

No changes. The entire level continuously fills with fog when players activate any alarms and it goes down when both cells are inserted into the generator. If the fog stayed then its a bug.

[obsidian surge]

Strange I just did 3 runs but couldn't see a thing due to fog

Could it be an issue with my game files?

[open fossil]

the fog isn't actually particularly thick in C2, at least once it's raised above your head, so if you're having trouble seeing through it that might be an issue with your settings or as you mentioned game files

[obsidian surge]

Yeah it definitely not as thick as b2

But it just surprised me how much the fog ruined my run strategy

Cause its just normal white fog that goes up to the just below the highest reachable point

It doesn't go away even with generators

I'll prob fix my game files and try again tmr

[open fossil]

normal white fog? In C2? That doesn't sound right

[obsidian surge]

Yup

Just normal like windy white fog

That doesn't go pass the main power generator array

It really makes the initial alarm seq really diffcult

And I was kinda used to getting beat down by this game

So I thought they legitimately made a change to the first area

[open fossil]

so the fog is already present upon loading into C2?

[obsidian surge]

Yes

[wary linden]

relaunch your game

[obsidian surge]

Though it was there so u couldn't see the flyers and areas enemies are gonna run thru

[open fossil]

definitely verify game files and all that

[obsidian surge]

I wanted to but I just cleared C1 by myself after 3 hours my mental is drained

[obsidian surge]

Aite I'll do that the next time I play

That's for letting me know they didn't change the fog mechanic

[wary linden]

it'S good to relaunch your game after a couple of hours.... a lot of issues arise if you leave the game running too long... like the game session becomes messed up for some reason and it creates weird stuff

the game session just dies with time

[obsidian surge]

Really? I though I was just so bad my game broke cause enemies started running thru the checkpoint door in C1

Aites thanks for the tips

Will be back for more

And before I head out would u recommend soloing this rundown?

[wary linden]

if you say 3 hour run of C1 ... then i believe you uses a lot of checkpoints... so that might be more a checkpoint bug schenannigan from reloading too much checkpoints 🤣

[obsidian surge]

Cause my friend group has an inconsistent schedule so it's diffcult to get a full 4 man

[obsidian surge]

I found a bug? By being bad? Pog

[wary linden]

checkpoints are just broken

in general

they creates a lot of issues ... to a point where the host itself can get desync 🤣

[obsidian surge]

LMAO

[wary linden]

host basically become like a client

[obsidian surge]

Gud thing I played it alone then

Don't want other to experience unfair desync

[wary linden]

the game is balanced around 4 players though

[cobalt pollen]

it got bugged

i had the same issue too

[obsidian surge]

That is true

[cobalt pollen]

i tried playing c2 recently and fog just instantly filled the room on first scan

[obsidian surge]

Ahh Cul. Thought I was the only one

[wary linden]

i had a run of C2 once where i got no fog at all while everyone else had fog ;p

[obsidian surge]

Did u get infected tho?

[wary linden]

no

[cobalt pollen]

yes

[obsidian surge]

If ya didn't that's really pog

[wary linden]

it was really boring

[obsidian surge]

Mah gawd

[wary linden]

there was no pressure left

[obsidian surge]

That's true

The fog was the only pressure that level has

I don't want to spoil it for myself but may I get a hint if there is a disinfection station in c2? I know there is one in b3

[wary linden]

no

[cobalt pollen]

no

[obsidian surge]

Ripppp

[cobalt pollen]

you're limited to the bottled ones only

[wary linden]

think before you use disinfection

[obsidian surge]

Aites

Thanks for the hint

I'ma go sleep now. Regain mental for another attempt

🙂

[fierce nebula]

use disinfection packs at 10% (this is a joke for legal reasons)

[soft crater]

If you go past 10%. You arent allowed to used disinfection packs

You'll infect the disinfect packs

Begone infection

[distant folio]

In c1 - after the big scan with the pouncers, does the alarm continue and we just run to the exit? or should we clear out the rest and take it slow

[minor fractal]

Alarm continues, but you can still take it slow.

Either rush through and use mines to clear behind, or split 2/2 w/ some people holding waves and some people clearing ahead.

Can also mix strategies depending on the size of the room.

Might be a good idea to reach middle room, mine the door behind you, and then pull the room ahead to kill them with a mine.

A bit safer than just trying to run through all 3 rooms.

[dapper compass]

If you don't rush be mindful that waves can spawn in front of you if you're not fast enough

[soft crater]

this is more so if you're actively putting mines on doors behind you

the moment the security door opens the extract is the 2nd room away meaning they can spawn there if the waves aren't at spawn cap

I noticed this mostly if you mine the door before the security door w/o c-foam

[worthy siren]

is it true that door bug still exists

[rigid sinew]

yes, but only the method without C-Foam

[fierce nebula]

PATCH 3

[soft crater]

[dry pumice]

Why you always just randomly spam these? You don't respond to anything, you just randomly do it every channel.

Before it was coffee sleeper, now its this thing

[icy cave]

he is one of the general chat people. shhhh

[rigid sinew]

[icy cave]

ah another one

[dry pumice]

No, I'm genuinely curious why. Just filling in the silence? Pinging chat with unread messages for the sake of it? There's got to be a reason.

[rigid sinew]

- Both?
+ Both
-+ Both!
+ Both is good

[soft crater]

Essentially whenever I'm checking real quick inbetween my breaks

[dry pumice]

So it's basically the equivalent of you peeking your head into the door to see what's new.

I knew there was an explanation!

[rigid sinew]

to me it's that and a form of passive trolling

[soft crater]

[ruby wasp]

🗿

[fierce nebula]

🤓

[soft crater]

[lyric knoll]

is anyone else getting cosmetics all of the sudden?

Me and my group beat the rundown the first week it came out, and all of the sudden I'm getting more cosmetic and apparel for no reason

[dry pumice]

It's a gamescom thing

[lyric knoll]

Ah thank you

I just used the searchbar

Would you happen to know if there are any details about it? I see people posting 4 A1 completions but I don't see anything written

[icy cave]

There are 4 cosmetics. You can unlock them by doing any level. It's just that 4x A1 is the fastest way

[pulsar sage]

Until when can i get those? Saturday?

[dry pumice]

That would be mean to limit it like that because this game takes fucking time

[icy cave]

Tigris helmet says hello

tbf 4x A1 you got everything in 20 minutes

[dry pumice]

That shit was like a week long and required only 1 level, did it not?

[cobalt pollen]

do the fun maps

😤

gamescom isnt a 1 day thing

so

[soft crater]

Me and my friends who hopped on for an 20-30 grinded A1 for a bit then went on with our business

[soft crater]