gtfo-related-questions

[daring fog]

0-5

[cobalt pollen]

boils down to rng

[daring fog]

but we will know if the devs actually try to fix d1 bugs xD

[cobalt pollen]

pray to warngden not to spawn scouts and only spawn 1 snatcher

[craggy pier]

Tryna do something with scouts but no luck

[tender pasture]

can you one shot charger scouts with spear to back

[craggy pier]

nope

[dapper compass]

Not without external modifiers

[craggy pier]

you can cfoam and double full charge with spear or hammer

[tender pasture]

thx

[thin stag]

Anyone knows how cfoam portion booster works? can't really figure it out, nor i have noticed any change with +150% or without it

[viscid wolf]

u get more value with a blob

takes less blobs to cfoam a door and enemies

[drifting patio]

the Cfoam portion only applies to full squirts(or more than just a click), it impacts the tool's ammo expenditure

normally a full charge takes 12 ammo, but with 100% portion, it effectively uses a full charge for only half the cost-->6 amm0

when you do just single blobs, a percent of 1 ammo gets rounded up to still 1 ammo for whatever erason

[thin stag]

Okay, makes sense now

Thanks

[drifting patio]

np

[wide fiber]

hi guys, noob here, my friends ragequit but i really wanna finish B1, is it frowned upon to launch matchmaking without a mic ?

[still fjord]

It's fine if you have no mic, there are quite some people that don't have one, but you might have more luck in #lfg-beginners

More info on the Looking for Group channels is in #how-to-matchmake

[wide fiber]

ok thanks

[icy cave]

use lfg and say that you have no mic beforehand, it should be fine

[neon gust]

Your friends are cowards

[obsidian depot]

matchmaking is a mistake and I would generally advise against using it, plenty of friendly people around the lfg to play with, even if you don't have a mic, just be willing to listen and even use the text chat to communicate

[spark wolf]

it's rough to like the game if you play matchmaking

[velvet dagger]

did they fix c3?

[stoic breach]

No

[noble sierra]

You can replace c3 to whatever you want.

[wanton nimbus]

Y’all know how to make game suggestions?

[stoic breach]

Copy what it looks like in bot commands

[mossy aurora]

💀

[noble sierra]

Check #bot-commands you'll find out, you can file the suggestion in #gtfo-chat as well if you'd like to have your suggestion discussed.

[daring fog]

whats with all these incorrect cfoam portion posts lol

[dry pumice]

Because the game's bad at explaining itself and people have to extrapolate data based in each others' experiences and observations. Not the most effective way of getting reliable info.

[daring fog]

yeah still havent seen one that actually explains what it really is xD

[vital sierra]

right now, the c foam launcher explanation is good enough i guess?

[sacred dew]

nobody talks about the cfoam efficiency though

[distant ice]

Don't have to figure it out if you don't use boosters

[daring fog]

only map the extra total blobs can be usefull on is e1 ^^

[rocky whale]

Hey guys! Do I get less rewards if I'm deceased during extraction?

[desert falcon]

nope, doesn't matter if you are alive when you finish the mission in any way

[icy cave]

You can even join a team at the last second and get the completion and all the rewards

[daring fog]

Boosters might be wonky though

Had cases where i didnt get anything cause i had a single crash. Very fun when it counts the heat reduce though

[rocky whale]

Cool thnx.

[icy cave]

Boosters are irrelevant

[daring fog]

still annoying when it would be 2 aggressives which i can waste on carries

[slim pond]

Do you need to do the B3 secondary before you do the overload?

[dry pumice]

Yes, no other way around it.

[slim pond]

K

[dry pumice]

I mean, you can but you'll have to backtrack through fod and respawning rooms.

[noble sierra]

You can't, no bulkhead key in overload.

[distant gate]

When do we get the scattergun back?

[soft crater]

yes

Where is my Burst scatter Cannon

I was promised one

[icy cave]

in R69

[distant gate]

Burst Cannon Primary
Scattergun Secondary

[soft crater]

Upgraded burst and shotgun sentry. They now carry a burst cannon and a scatter gun

[dry pumice]

Honestly burst cannon sentry sounds cool as shit.
Basically ass-backwards sniper sentry.

[distant gate]

Flame thrower sentry when?

🔥 🔥

[wide fiber]

yeah finally i used the French discord to find people to play with quite quicly, good surprise that's there is still a strong community

[daring fog]

exactly the opposite experience as you ^^

if you dont have a mic you rarely find teams here lol

[rigid sinew]

sometimes I just say hi and not talk the rest of the match lol

most people seem to be fine with that for some reason

though the fun of matchmaking is dealing with the trolls and noobs

[daring fog]

yeah unless you try to actively ask if its okay to join without mic lol

matchmaking is fun the one in 8 lobbies that doesnt break xD

[rigid sinew]

that's the best part, you don't ask

[daring fog]

yeah if you try to be civil you just dont get teams

[rigid sinew]

be a gamer

gamers aren't civil

B)

[daring fog]

though still waiting for my third team for full mute e1 clears ^^

last one was broken by the games sound engine desciding to attempt to repeatedly write on ram addresses that are already reserved/used on other stuff lol

[rigid sinew]

epic

[daring fog]

which in a 1.0 release in this ages shouldnt happen anymore but xD

[rugged lion]

just got the game and joined the discord. any advice to a new specimen?

[dry pumice]

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[dry pumice]

Only advice: try to learn proper stealth protocols ASAP

if you'll give me like 10 minutes we could attempt A1 crash course run

You can complete EVAL at the mean time

[rugged lion]

@dry pumice apreciate the advice and at work on lunch so unavailable atm just excited after the EVAL this morning.

[ruby wasp]

.t tutorial

[uneven gulch]

New to the game? Check out these guides

GTFO isn't a game where you'll find a classic "press space to jump" tutorial, instead, we tried to make the first map A1 as self-explanatory as possible. A quadrant in The Complex has also been secured for Evaluation of new players. We also collaborated with the community creator Professor Scaler. He made one guide for A1, and one that touches more on the different systems in the game.

A1 Guide
https://youtu.be/x2ppSAewh7k

Beginner guide to GTFO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdMxvQ0Jiv8

[ruby wasp]

This should help you

[dry pumice]

Alright here's some basic things you need to know:

• Stealth is a game of "red light / green light". While they are sleep - that's green. When they glow / stretch / make sounds / go semi-awake - that's red.
  While they're fully asleep - crouching is 100% silent.
  Walking / changing stance (switching between crouching and standing) causes them to go become wary.
  While they are wary - they can sense even crouching.
  Sprinting immediately wakes them up.
  And of course - they don't like light, but you can use light so "synchronise" their sleeping/wary phases.

• There's 2 major damage modifiers: headshots and flanking shots.
  Hitting / shooting enemies from behind deals extra damage and it stacks with headshots as well. When in doubt - hit them to the back of the head.

• Don't be too conservative with your special weapon. Seen people recently go into 0 on their main weapons and barely use their secondary. It's not super bad, but it can create certain issues with ammo distribution.

• Shotgun sentry bad.

[eternal bridge]

Sadly… without mics, you can’t do VC which is what everyone wants for communication

[daring fog]

which is absolutely useless

heck if you cant even communicate your thoughts in ingame chat whatcha doing xD

[craggy pier]

lfg be like

needs "communication"
average clear time is 3x a normal run
usual comms contain "oops I alerted x enemy"
50 thousand checkpoints

[shrewd dirge]

no push to talk so constant sound of dog barking

[dry pumice]

As intended

[vast tulip]

When doing the b2 gather objective, will the items show up only in the section behind the secondary bulkhead?

I dont want to leave the area, cuz Im worried I'll fail the objective, but its been like, 40 minutes and im certain Ive searched every box and only 2 have showed up

[regal tendon]

Can’t you ping them on a terminal? Also no, they can’t spawn outside the area behind the secondary bulkhead.

[vast tulip]

Ive tried pinging, but clearly i dont know the right term to ping. I tried GLP, GLP-1, GLP_1

oh god imma feel so dumb if its GLP-1_CANISTER

[regal tendon]

They usually have some funky number behind them. Use the list command to see which GLPs are left.

[open fossil]

just do LIST GLP ZONE_XXX? Should give you the full names after

for each zone

[vast tulip]

Oh right, LIST exists

[regal tendon]

I think you can just do LIST GLP.

[vast tulip]

Thank you for pointing that out to my Neanderthal brain x-x

[open fossil]

ahh for B2 yeah, only really need to know the zones for C1

[vast tulip]

thanks guys!

[balmy turtle]

hey all. couple buddies and myself are going to get this game next week. Whats the status on development?

[rigid sinew]

Yes

[noble sierra]

The status is like...in 2019 PUBG state.

[eternal bridge]

It’s already useless for people with hearing problems already XD. I had to keep saying why I’m “muted” in VC and half the time, either the lobby just leaves or stays

[scenic radish]

is occiput ever coming back

[viscid wolf]

what

for sentries?

occiput is still athing

oh it's gazinger

[scenic radish]

i mean it is but enemy doesnt die

[viscid wolf]

hi gazinger

[craggy pier]

is the game ever going to be good again

it's only been 6 rundowns and the game is already in recession

like cod zombies, where it will never peak again after bo1 - 3

[obsidian depot]

skill issue, as long as you don't join a game with mic already muted and not explain anything, I think you're generally fine around these parts

[craggy pier]

i really enjoy pubs that blames mutes for their fuck ups

i also really enjoy pubs that don't understand basic tool or weapon mechanics

i had people shouting BIO PINGS WHERE, then i shouted back have you heard of cd you fucking troglodyte chimpanzee

i also really enjoy people insta leaving because there a mute who joined

i also really enjoy igl that don't really know what their doing

i also really enjoy pubs who demand you to carry a certain tool or they want you to piss off

i also enjoy pubs who leaves without saying a single thing and is carrying a high use resource

[upper ginkgo]

pubs are the apex of the gtfo experience

[vital sierra]

have you played DRG on asian server?

[flat furnace]

Not without fully embracing modding.

[vital sierra]

they modded the game

spawn enemy more than haz 5

and then gave themself invulnerable

[craggy pier]

sounds like a you issue

the lobby name is usually a big enough hint whether or not it's altered

[vital sierra]

most of them are chinese tho

[icy cave]

like in most games

[craggy pier]

i see like 70% of the lobbies are not chinese

sounds like a you issue x2

[vital sierra]

and i see 70% of the lobbies are chinese

sound like a me issue then

it's not like everytime i matchmake in any game, it automatically put me in a chinese lobby

[craggy pier]

or you know just

set your region preference

and if you live in asia

consider leaving the country

[vital sierra]

dude, i'm next to china

[craggy pier]

set your region preference to only medium - world idk

[vital sierra]

oh ye, and have it 200 ping or more

[craggy pier]

sounds like a skill issue

i've gotten like 300-500 kills with high ping and little to no downs

[vital sierra]

ye, i don't like rubber band

[stray pier]

is headgear010 in the actual game? I see it in modded version but im not sure if its in the actual vanilla game
https://postimg.cc/ThdWNRZf

[vital sierra]

oh ye, sure

[craggy pier]

idk rubber banding affects reload canceling and animation skipping

which i don't care that much

[vital sierra]

i almost one shot bosses, is that count as an achiement?

[craggy pier]

i just shoot bugs

[vital sierra]

oh ye, who wouldn't shoot bug in a bug shooting game

[tacit zealot]

In the game but no available to be collected.

[craggy pier]

drg is pretty boring anyways

haz5 too easy and i don't want to install mods for increased diff

[obsidian depot]

didn't ask but ok

[stray pier]

Elite deep dives?

[stray pier]

Awe so I can't get it in vanilla game?

[tacit zealot]

No

It is in the game files; that is the extent of it.

[stray pier]

Why would they do that, it's so cool I been wanting that in-game ever since I saw it on the steam page artwork

[tacit zealot]

@shadow flower

[daring fog]

just to troll us same as the bug fixes in patch notes that never get delievered

[tacit zealot]

fixed sound bug

[daring fog]

fixed anything

already found every bug of r7 patch notes ingame again

[dry pumice]

Probably keeping it for the future release. Or they think it looks out of place and wait to remodel it.

[mossy aurora]

maybe saving it for a timed thing like the tigris mask

RIP michelin man skin

[dry pumice]

It does look awfully grander than usual masks

That trunk especially

The entire neck thing is part of the mask as well, me thinks

So that's the biggest mask since scorpion or the hooded one

Lots of potential clipping issues

[shadow flower]

Some items are for future activations @stray pier

[shadow flower]

Really?

[daring fog]

except initial negative ammo yes

[open fossil]

What an outstanding individual, actively pursuing and encountering bugs to make sure they've been properly fixed. Serving as an example to everyone here

[vital sierra]

outstanding

do you know how to reproduce the cell bug?

[shadow flower]

If you ever have the time providing documentation of that, it would be helpful.

A 100 % repo of checkpoint bugs

[open fossil]

Out of curiosity, and i'm sure it's already been discussed, But has the item carrying bug ever occurred for the host?

Not sure how much is known about the occurrence or cause of the bug, but since alot of it stems from client stuff. usually a pretty safe bet

[vital sierra]

it have a different effect on host

you can't do any [HOLD BUTTON] interaction

you can shoot and open door

and only occur when you play with at least 1 other player

same as client, there is no 100% repo

[open fossil]

wack. Given the fact it only occurs with other players though, has to be something to do with the connection yea?

not that it narrows things down much at all i'm sure

[vital sierra]

with all my testing

if you hold a heavy item and finish the checkpoint scan, it will stay on you

but you can still drop it

the bug happen when you carry the item AND the game are forced to make you drop the item

i might go test something

[open fossil]

Let me know if ya need a second person for ya testing. But also, easy solution. Simply remove checkpoints

[vital sierra]

if you remove checkpoint, steam forum gonna be up in flame again

[daring fog]

just make a mode that has and one that doesnt have chekpoints

[vital sierra]

well, you can just DON'T USE CHECKPOINT

[daring fog]

yeah but some use them cause they got time constraints called real life

[vital sierra]

well ye

then why would you make another mode for it

while you do can do it yourself

nobody force you to use checkpoint

i hate to say it but, it literally Player Choice

[open fossil]

I mean checkpoint currently has lots of issues. But the issues only show up when people go back to a checkpoint. Otherwise it's just a funny security door with abit of green spray paint

[vital sierra]

ye

[daring fog]

it is players choice but it would atleast let people matchmake for non checkpoint runs ^^

though with how matchmaking is ignored and further broken with each patch by the devs... yeah no way it gonna happen

[vital sierra]

well, just say no cp, for lfg of course

[open fossil]

using matchmaking, pretty funny joke you're saying there

[vital sierra]

different people, different experience

[daring fog]

using lfg funny joke

[vital sierra]

we have bad experience with MM so no MM

[icy cave]

and then bash their heads on the wall for 8 hours cause they don't want to lose the CP progress......

[vital sierra]

"time constrain"

"bashing for 8 hours"

[daring fog]

yeah atleast read what you respodn to lol

[icy cave]

I did

[vital sierra]

people use checkpoint just for using checkpoint

[open fossil]

Honestly it's less of bad experience with MM, and more so i've never had issues with lfg, so why bother using anything else. Especially with the convenience of discord

[daring fog]

only ever had bad experience with lfg on here

cause people expect mics when they aint needed

[open fossil]

very unfortunate

[icy cave]

The easiest fix for CP (aside from the bugs) is to lock PE runs behind a no CP run and give some fixed drip for the PE completions. Now there is incentive

[vital sierra]

that just challenge run tho

[open fossil]

ehh, just gives a weird feeling of elitism, even if that's not the case

[daring fog]

if you have time constraints you dont bahs your head for 8 hours lol

[vital sierra]

rundown has been drastically lower on time to play

[icy cave]

exactly why time constraint is a non argument cause that is what people are doing with CP's

[open fossil]

like if ya don't use checkpoints, more power to ya. And honestly people wasting hours repeating the same checkpoint despite the problem being their poor performance before the checkpoint is a negative

[icy cave]

it solves the problem with incentive to do PE and incentive to not use CP's

[vital sierra]

if you want a challenge run, just give CP a use thing

[open fossil]

course that's not always what a checkpoint is used for. Had a couple runs where all it took was one checkpoint to have a better understand of the level and complete it successfully

[icy cave]

It is

[vital sierra]

like, only use CP for 3 time a level

[icy cave]

True

and that is why the next fix is max 3 CP uses before total wipe

[vital sierra]

you can also bashed your head for 8 hours and memorize every movement

[icy cave]

exactly

[open fossil]

it's also really usefully for building experience with a particularly hard section of a level, as that's often where a checkpoint is placed. Avoids the hassle of restarting a run, spending 30 minutes doing the easier bits, just to wipe on the hard bits

"hard" used subjectively for this rundown

Limiting checkpoints honestly doesn't sound like the worst idea

[vital sierra]

if they use pmother more than it will be hard

but Pmother is like a boss type

putting her at C tier is kinda bothersome

[icy cave]

As is blockin PE behind no CP run and giving specific cosmetics for it. Right now what do you get when you finish a PE?? Nothing!

[open fossil]

||Pmother in E1 but you literally just stealth past it and close a door in it's face running to extract||

[tardy ingot]

wat

[vital sierra]

many team has been wipe just because they woke up a baby

[icy cave]

At least that way CP and PE are solved and more focussed on a langer part of the community

[open fossil]

Checkpoints aside, it is a shame no cosmetics were given for PE

[icy cave]

phone D4rk 😅

[vital sierra]

it's not really good to give PE something

flashback to Back 4 blood shenanigans

[open fossil]

haven't heard that name in ages

[icy cave]

pMother can stay rare imo

[vital sierra]

mother isn't good enough for a wipe

[icy cave]

But they could use mothers a bit more

[vital sierra]

even in D1, 2 mother isn't even that bad

[icy cave]

Make a zone like R6D2 mother zone

[ruby wasp]

The amount of monkeys that wiped at R5A2 overload tho

[vital sierra]

wipe once

[open fossil]

honestly kind of funny, since I had a team screw up and wake up the Pmother , but somehow we shredded it

[ruby wasp]

The new players ain't gonna wipe just once

💀

[tardy ingot]

depends on skill level
you dont know how many people wipe to moms cuz they dont know how to focus babies

[open fossil]

I mean from the perspective of a completely new player, this rundown was probably rough

[vital sierra]

^

this rundown for new player is pretty hard

[open fossil]

then again, they'd probably have a seizure on earlier rundowns

[vital sierra]

some are hard stuck on C1

on R5, some quit the game on A1

big ass floodway tile

[open fossil]

don't think making the game more accessible is the worst idea. whether that's been implemented poorly or shafted veterans is debatable

[tardy ingot]

i mean r5a1 was unbalanced due to stealth for beginners who would struggle with it

eh game should have a harder skill ceiling

the floor rn is perfectly fine

[vital sierra]

they HAVE TO put a new tile on A1

[tardy ingot]

so people can go into a1 and be decently enough

[icy cave]

Have more mothers awake. Like in R5A2 or R4B3 ovl

open door .... scream

[vital sierra]

i think they just have 0 experience with mother

and putting mom on A level is just cruel

[tardy ingot]

ye

[vital sierra]

it's so random

[tardy ingot]

mom in a b tier overload is nice

or in base c tier

generally, more optionals

[vital sierra]

look at R4

Tank on C level

[icy cave]

I'm not saying put it on A but have more awake. They almost always sleep

[open fossil]

The thing is, should things like E Tier only be completable by skilled teams? What skill ceiling should be aimed for? Since the idea of a certain portion of a game only being locked behind such a high ceiling might not be the best

[vital sierra]

great for introduction

[tardy ingot]

we got more in r7 than r6 tho which is nice

[icy cave]

Yes

[tardy ingot]

"challenging/extreme/hardcore tactical coop shooter"

[icy cave]

What ceiling is a good question tho

[tardy ingot]

yes only skilled teams with good coordination should complete E tiers

[vital sierra]

E tier should only be beaten with a whole team being experience

[tardy ingot]

i think r4e1 is a ceiling that we probably should not go too far beyond

[vital sierra]

and not 1 guy know a thing and everyone get a free win

[open fossil]

So no Solo, no Duo. Full Team working their asses off and utilizing all their knowledge

[icy cave]

No Def not

[vital sierra]

the dev should make an enemy for E tier level

[open fossil]

sounds pretty good honestly. Just unfortunate alot of people would be gettin shafted

[icy cave]

yes

[vital sierra]

pablo/tom isn't good enough

[icy cave]

as the game was intended to start with

[tardy ingot]

@open fossil i mean people stil solo those levels. Tho with cheesy tactics
anyone who would mald about not being able to solo/duo the later levels did not understand the idea of the game

[icy cave]

and the no CP in E tier is also very good

[tardy ingot]

yes

this so much

[vital sierra]

i know someone who would do that

[open fossil]

a CP in E tier would honestly just feel... wrong

like if there was one, single Tier that should never have a checkpoint

it'd be E tier

[vital sierra]

e tier right now are headed to the right direction

[tardy ingot]

i mean you could still add checkpoints to E tier. But definetly not spammable ones

[vital sierra]

it just need more... E tier level difficulty

[open fossil]

or F tier when it finally drops. Can't wait for F1, or Formula 1 Racing

[tardy ingot]

like r2e1 couldve gotten one with 3 uses before the error at the end and it would be ok

but unlimited checkpoints would suck

[icy cave]

I would remove CP's from D tier as well. but we already established I'm an jerk

[tardy ingot]

people would have 20 hour clears lol

[vital sierra]

example

[tardy ingot]

@icy cave i think just making checkpoint = no pe would fix it

for D tiers

[vital sierra]

if you put cp on E tier

[tardy ingot]

together with limited checkpoints

[vital sierra]

put it on the door that pablo/tom spawn

[icy cave]

I know it was just wishfull thinking

[tardy ingot]

eh current E tier is too short for a checkpoint anyway. its just that pablo is a bit of a drag after the first scan

[icy cave]

I aim for that as well no PE if CP is used

[open fossil]

Balancing a games levels around a skill ceiling is definitely alot harder when GTFO is one difficulty. In the case of something like Left 4 Dead, there is a pretty high skill ceiling, but every bit of content is available since difficulty options exist. But GTFO straight up wouldn't work with such options

[vital sierra]

they need to make an E tier enemy

pablo i think it just a C tier enemy

[open fossil]

God I wish Pablo was implemented better.. the base idea is great, but having one poor bastard babysitting him is lame

[icy cave]

That is true but I also think that not every bit of content should be available if you can't put in the effort to make it that far.

[vital sierra]

well, same with DRG Haunted cave

it's the same on everything

[tardy ingot]

litteraly dark souls

[icy cave]

well you know my thoughts for that series

[open fossil]

Really only good way of implementing it is having some sort of way to stun, or make the invincible enemy fuck off for a couple minutes to do things

[vital sierra]

that just make him a B tier level enemy

[open fossil]

or ya know, just door glitch the door like some sort of bastard and remove the enemy entirely

[icy cave]

And still it is true

[vital sierra]

that's just for any enemy

[open fossil]

remove the gameplay entirely

[vital sierra]

i think putting pablo on C1 is better

a wave come in with him

[tardy ingot]

i wished they did pablo like the enemy in dead space. where if you did enough dmg it couldnt run after you for a sec

[vital sierra]

the whole team need to run around on the last scan

[open fossil]

door glitch my pc's graphics card and remove everything

[vital sierra]

then you mine him

[icy cave]

Also technically someone who boots up the game for the very first time can join an E1 game.

[vital sierra]

kinda sad that you have every weapon available to do all of it

[dapper compass]

That would be much more interesting yeah, make him a bigger threat by being much more agile and reactive, and having the trade off AMMO -> FREE TIME instead of just sending one guy on a stroll

[icy cave]

So basically no content is locked

[open fossil]

Stun Pablo before jumping ontop of him and eventually knocking it down, before looting him for his hide and turning him into armor. Monster Hunter

[icy cave]

then you become the immortal

[open fossil]

Become Pablo

[vital sierra]

it's interesting for lore-wise

[icy cave]

Do you get a sombrero skin with it?

[daring fog]

just use glass

[vital sierra]

i wonder what people think of him

[daring fog]

easiest way to do jerry

and you can go cook or do other stuff at the same time

win win for both sides

[open fossil]

the fact immortal's biggest weakness is straight up glass is really something

[daring fog]

its video game glass

unbreakable so you cant save whos behind it xD

[open fossil]

gamer glass. made from the glass ceiling that all gamers are trapped under

since it's well known we are the most oppressed group of individuals. So the glass better be strong

[tardy ingot]

not about ease. I can also just door glitch and remove him entirely

but you could do that even if he was a lot better designed

[icy cave]

you filthy animal

[daring fog]

you can remove any enemy if you manage to time it right and stuck them in the ceiling

[open fossil]

having heard horror stories of people joining lfg E1 lobbies and hearing people discuss door glitching. Glad i never experienced such a terrible thing

[tardy ingot]

its like when people say "this e1 is easier than current d2" and use all the cheeses in the world

[daring fog]

door glitching is just sad

[tardy ingot]

door glitching is just "i dont actually wanna play the game"

[daring fog]

even without glitches and cheeses e1 is easier then d2

[vital sierra]

i got people just doing door glitch for 2 hours

[open fossil]

i'm sorry for your loss

[vital sierra]

like, if you don't want to play the game, then just stop

[icy cave]

D2 is way more straightforward tho

[vital sierra]

they just say

[daring fog]

only problem on e1 is scouts changing their walking routine in pmom room

[open fossil]

you know what they say. Hard games make harder players. and also absolutely cheesy bastards

[vital sierra]

"i love the game man but, these door glitch is ruining the game"

[daring fog]

and snatcher dropping you out of world

[vital sierra]

*proceed to do door glitch

[daring fog]

good thing i dont even know the door glitch ^^

[vital sierra]

i love the game man but, i have to cheat

we have ZERO bug occur

[daring fog]

yeah all the invincibility spots on e1 ^^

[open fossil]

"Door glitching? you mean just perma foaming the door?" spoken by a old man in a rocking chair, ignorant to the sins of the new world

[tardy ingot]

eh. D2 rly only has 3 times where it is even remotely challenging
Charger zone spawning inside on scouts and bbcs
mom spawning on wave
extract

do e1 without cfoaming thunderdome or standing on crystals. no boosters
Or even better (tho i dont consider this cheese) dont lure pablo away. have pablo in the same room as you 24/7

[vital sierra]

everything it's going smoothly

[valid arch]

I started playing GTFO at rundown 7, theres only two legs for apparel?

[daring fog]

did it already

[tardy ingot]

its rng what you get for a lot of drops

[open fossil]

you don't get all the cosmetics for getting all the unlocks

[valid arch]

Ahh i see

[vital sierra]

better luck next time

[open fossil]

just randomly picks from the pool

[daring fog]

we never will be able to get all cosmetics

[open fossil]

some poor individuals got stuck with nothing but jorts

[valid arch]

So I can still get apparels from Rundown 6 too right?

[open fossil]

I thank god everyday for my cargo pants

ha ha

[vital sierra]

yes

[open fossil]

no

[vital sierra]

only one of them

the tiger mask

[open fossil]

you can get apparel that was added in r6, but obviously not from r6 directly

[daring fog]

you cant get the r6 exclusives

[tardy ingot]

? you can still get old ones in random drops iirc
unless alpha means you cant get tiger mask anymore

[icy cave]

I mean he can tho 👀

[tardy ingot]

but that also includes other exclusives

[open fossil]

basically, the longer you've been here since r6, the more dripped out you'll be

[tardy ingot]

i mean i only use 2 sets
lemon
and when i dont wanna look like a lemon

[vital sierra]

it's like, first come first serve

[open fossil]

best back cosmetic is my boy, my son. Plant

[daring fog]

only set that exists is amogus with plant

[open fossil]

raised em since he was just a seed

[vital sierra]

he gave you air

[open fossil]

secret set bonus that deleted toxic fog. The problem was global warming the entire time

[vital sierra]

what i want was PE to give weapon cosmetic

but that will cause a lot of problem

[open fossil]

csgo knife skins type o behavior

[neon gust]

Fix the game first

How about new tool

Fuck costemetics

[daring fog]

how abotu bug fixes*

[vital sierra]

Zwat skin

grenade bug until i get one

[neon gust]

Only see them on lobby anyways

[daring fog]

you see them ingame too except you dont have time to look at your teammates

[neon gust]

What do you think "fix the game" means

🐸

[dry pumice]

Some bugs are permanent.

[daring fog]

actually making it work past bug fixes

[dry pumice]

That's what I learned.

[open fossil]

hardly even notice what cosmetic color my team is wearing since I just call em by whatever their name color is. But that Elevator Drop? Basically a fashion show

[dry pumice]

I try to call people by names.

[open fossil]

names?

[vital sierra]

i skip the elevator

[open fossil]

wait a minute..

[vital sierra]

i mean

i alt tab

[icy cave]

Yep, that noise is too much

[vital sierra]

i only look at my teammate when either giving them resources

or teamkilling them

[cobalt pollen]

i love the elevator sounds

😩

[open fossil]

the elevator noises, that did you know according to the wiki was just the noise of wind coming through a slightly ajar door in Simon Viklund's home? Pitched down 🤓

[neon gust]

This is more common than anything

[daring fog]

only way to actually win a run in lfg xD

[open fossil]

Solo with extra steps

[vital sierra]

what is you guys speculation on the heavy item bug?

[daring fog]

the carrying anything bug?

[vital sierra]

ye

[daring fog]

dunno how carrying items is handled . if its client or pure host side

[open fossil]

given the fact it's related to the checkpoints and only happens with multiple players present. Something to due with one player's client loading different from the hosts or something like that

Had a C2 run where the team got to a checkpoint, eventually wiped, and once we loaded the checkpoint, one of the players suddenly had a cell in hand, despite having not picked one up for a while if at all

[vital sierra]

i found the best bug report for that situation but lost it

foudn it

https://10chambers.atlassian.net/browse/GTFO1-8353

so, what is missing from this is BEFORE he enter the checkpoint

[open fossil]

So naturally we tried restarting on the checkpoint again, aswell as leaving a rejoining. The weird part was he put it into two generators and it fixed it

but then we wiped again, dude had the cell in hand again, but this time he was carrying three of them. So we slapped em into 3 different generators. just kept increasing by one with every reload

so basically, he was carrying 3 batteries in one

couldn't drop a single one of em

[vital sierra]

in that case, idk if it will be an easy fix but

have a limit on how many heavy item a player can have could be the solution

but then again, he can't drop the first one

so it boiled down to a "ghost" heavy item

[open fossil]

pretty much. And the only reason we even knew he had multiple was because he could put em into gens to whittle down the number

honestly i'm shocked such a mess could be happening in the first place. But this is coming from the place of someone with very little knowledge in game dev. And it seems the multiplayer aspect of coding is particularly rough

[vital sierra]

netcode is rough

[open fossil]

pairing that with saving the expedition data, player positions and items stuff every time there is a checkpoint. seems rough

[vital sierra]

from my experience

[open fossil]

not surprised it's the point with the worst problems

[vital sierra]

the netcode of this game, if you didn't use cp (and sniper melee), it's good enough

they updated their netcode to make medium ping feel like normal ping

i had played some game where, even if you have 40 ping, you still have desync

[distant ice]

Bullshit

And I don't even feel like trying to explain it to alpha

[vital sierra]

try playing back 4 blood

use server

playing NEXT to the server (40 - 60 ping)

enemy rubberband back and forth

need to kill 1 zombie 2 time because desync happen and i need to re-kill that zombie

ping didn't spike

everything is normal

[distant ice]

Other games being shit at networking don't make this one good

[vital sierra]

i said from my experience, it was good enough

[distant ice]

You seem to like relying on purely your experience a lot and then phrasing it like facts

[open fossil]

Welp, at the end of the day. I don't know shit about coding. And secondly, I don't have some religious level dedication to this game, so I'll just relax while they fix their issues. Never had enough issues to have an extremely negative impact on my personal experience with the game. And the devs mentioned they're working on it. Does that mean I should blindly believe what they say? unsure. But it is what it is. Chances are these bugs are going to be fixed at some point in time

[distant ice]

Fair opinion

Counterpoint

Some of us have been here for over 2 years and that view doesn't work anymore

[craggy pier]

you need to understand that the standard and expectations of vidya games dropped significantly

[open fossil]

Well lucky me, i've got another year atleast then

[craggy pier]

we are simply satisfied by mediocrity

[daring fog]

some are

other aint

[open fossil]

honestly seen so much absolutely horrendous shit from other game companies and such. That at this point this seems tame

[vital sierra]

ubisoft being shit lately

cyberpunk 2077 shenanigans

[craggy pier]

i'm not the type of person that settles for mediocrity but people like ^ does

[vital sierra]

back 4 blood buggy

[daring fog]

does alpha even play? all i see is him complaining about stuff

[craggy pier]

so it's really a good idea to listen opinions like them

[vital sierra]

hey, you're talking to a guy that put 4k hour into payday 2

[craggy pier]

than to form your own

[daring fog]

so a ten chambers fanboy gotcha

[vital sierra]

fanboy?

[gentle tendon]

Tarkov is another very unique game I love playing. It also constantly runs into technical issues. I like to cut the devs some slack, and if they're working on it and I'm still enjoying the game it's K.

[vital sierra]

complain about what?

[open fossil]

shying away from their main target demographic of veteran players, bugs not getting fixed at a rapid pace, stuff about modding community. Certainly heard things, but ain't been around long enough to know nor really care about these things

[daring fog]

about other peoples experiences

[vital sierra]

i have different experience from other

like, most of my friend have similar experience like me

i discuss with you, but you don't have any counterpoint, and now you called me complaining?

[open fossil]

I mean this is one of those games where if you've had good experiences with it, then that's all good. But that doesn't automatically mean no one else has had a different experience

[distant ice]

Alpha is just a simulator for spotting logical fallacies

[vital sierra]

wow

[daring fog]

its alpha lol even veterans state you shouldnt listen to him ^^

[icy cave]

tbf his youtube channel speaks for him

[daring fog]

heck most speedrunners during r4/r5 stated his opinion is worthless lol

[vital sierra]

those are in the same discord bud

[icy cave]

Yes but what makes their opinion more worth than his?

[open fossil]

Like, I can safely say i've not had any outright terrible experiences with this game thus far. And because of that I don't view the devs negatively or anything like that. However I also understand that other people have been here longer, and have probably been more dedicated to this game in other ways. For better or for worst

[daring fog]

them you can actively see playing the game

[icy cave]

Him too

And I'm not on his side btw. He misses way to many bugs.

[vital sierra]

you right, i missed so many bug, that's why some of my comment are about how curious i'm on how to get the bug to happen

[icy cave]

I know, not holding it against you.

But some interpret it as you saying they don't exist

[daring fog]

only helpful thing of alpha i can find in his last 20 pages of posts is where log files are xD

[distant ice]

that's fine and all but your guesses end up being as accurate as a scattergun sniping scouts

[vital sierra]

it's better to guess or trying to find it out

rather than just: Bug happen, pls fix

i have some free time, why not spend some to find that out

[daring fog]

game exists pls fix*

[open fossil]

I mean shots in the dark don't seem that helpful

but i'd imagine providing actual logs and stuff would be nice

[vital sierra]

not that bad either

[icy cave]

for gtfo it actually kind of applies

[distant ice]

but then you get people convinced hacking tool speeds up scans

[vital sierra]

that's not me

well, you also have people saying: "Dropping heavy carry item before checkpoint help with lowering the Heavy item bug"

which also didn't work

[open fossil]

ah, did hear that for sure

[distant ice]

not literally you

[vital sierra]

ye, it didn't work

[open fossil]

he just like me, fr fr

[daring fog]

as i said would need to look into how the "heavy item" carrying is handled in the game code if its client or host sided

[distant ice]

as for whether dropping items works or not, i don't know if there's conclusive evidence towards either

doesn't fix it 100% of the time doesn't mean it didn't help

[vital sierra]

the previous comment counter the other comment

[distant ice]

what

[vital sierra]

your first comment is countering the latter comment

[open fossil]

playing a card game or something? Counters n such

[distant ice]

first comment counting from where? my messages on this server?

[vital sierra]

ok, i'll stop

[sonic bolt]

Any tips on finding GLP-2 canisters in C1? I keep finding myself having used all the batteries on other doors and sticking with 8/9 canisters

[craggy pier]

you should be getting 9 regardless of where you use the cells

[sonic bolt]

i cant find the last locker or something

[craggy pier]

you likely missed a locker/box in a dark spot

[sonic bolt]

do lockers highlight on map even if i dont open them?

[craggy pier]

if you go past them yes

you also can use terminals to ping them

[sonic bolt]

thanks

[floral mural]

I see in a lot of things where people invite others into their game that it says like LF2M or LF1 what does that mean?

[craggy pier]

looking for x number of players

[floral mural]

ah that makes sense

[cobalt pollen]

you can look in #how-to-matchmake to understand used terminology

[icy cave]

terminal dude

use it

[daring fog]

list glp -> query glp_xxx -> ping glp_xxx

[soft crater]

Glp-2_×××

List zone-××× or List e_×××
Ping Glp-2_×××

[minor fractal]

\ to escape underscores.

\_

[sonic bolt]

In D2 where is the memory stick? He said something about a shuttlebox

[minor fractal]

5 scout zone, one of the shuttleboxes.

[open fossil]

the orange pillar things

[soft crater]

I'll have to mess with it but I'll see next time I get on

[turbid moss]

Hey, any tips on how D1 works? At the start, zone 193 security door has an X class alarm. But there is also an optional door which lifts security off of zone 193. Does that mean that if I do the error alarm, I don't have to do the X class, or it just makes things easier in 193? And does it worth doing the error alarm?

[cobalt pollen]

which one is the 193 again

the first class x or the second class x

its worth doing the error to lower the first class x alarm

[turbid moss]

first

[cobalt pollen]

do the error alarm for it

[turbid moss]

ah okay will try

thanks

[mossy aurora]

doesnt the error alarm skip the first class X entirely?

[cobalt pollen]

yes it does

second bypass doesnt skip the alarm

just turns it from class x to v and move the nodes near the checkpoint door instead of the other end

[floral mural]

why is it that after completing like A1, B1, etc. it says, Completed [1, -, -, -] does that mean we have to complete the level 4 times?

[distant ice]

.t sector

crap

basically they're for layers

main, secondary, overload, PE (all 3 at once)

• means that layer doesn't exist on the level

[icy cave]

if its - it means there is no objective for that level there. if it would say [1,0,0,0] Then it means you only completed main and did not do secondary and overload

[daring fog]

[1,1,1,1] means main(high), secondary(extreme), overload, pe where cleared once so you did 1 clear where you cleared everything in a single run

[floral mural]

ah that makes sense

thanks

[daring fog]

any combination of [y,x,x,x] with x being higher then y is impossible atm

[opal prairie]

whats a rundown record? (like 6.5 or 7.0)

[daring fog]

how you mean record?

[opal prairie]

in the GTFO complext page it says "CLICK TO ANALYZE RUNDOWN RECORD"

and it goes from A to 7.0

wait nvm

[icy cave]

RUNDOWN 7 IS THE CURRENT RUNDOWN

sry caps

[worn spade]

Excuse me, Can high-caliber pistol kill a black-scouter with a single shot on its back??

[distant ice]

yes but you need to be within 8m and right behind it

[worn spade]

so only koning sniper can kill it with long range?

[distant ice]

sort of

[worn spade]

I just try to find the easiest way to kill it without using a form (can make noise)

[distant ice]

sniper is the easiest way

[worn spade]

tysm for all suggestions

[daring fog]

coordinated 2 man melee

[open fossil]

C-foam works wonders as well. Should avoid using guns unless there is only one scout within the room, and also not to many enemies to be a problem

[past mesa]

'

[minor fractal]

`

[daring fog]

in c3 you will have to use either foam or dual melee

[open fossil]

or drugs

those happen to be present within c3. Pretty neat stuff. very healthy

[opal prairie]

ok

[daring fog]

if they spawn

had multiple runs where they only spawned in ov^^

[open fossil]

nothing like breaking into a locker and it's just drugs. Filled to the brim

[daring fog]

i only get lockers filled with 3 foam mines ^^ i can make a literal laser show out of foam lasers

[open fossil]

lesser known fact is that sleepers originated from cats. Meaning they're actually attracted to the glowing lasers. The reason this isn't a very well known bit of information is because I made it up

[worn spade]

Anyone know how much damage that new sniper and old sniper does?

[craggy pier]

its the same

unless you talking about precision rifle

[worn spade]

yep

[craggy pier]

does 11 dmg per hit

[worn spade]

then how about koning sniper?

[craggy pier]

40 per hit

[worn spade]

wow that's huge, tysm!

[craggy pier]

np

also remember that koning sniper has 2.0 precision multiplier while precision rifle has 1.3

koning the usual bigs counter and rifle regular/shadow scouts and smalls

[worn spade]

aight, my friend she just wonder if she could use artifact booster for precision rifle to kill black scouter with one shot or not.

[craggy pier]

i dont think you can do that even with the best boosters

[worn spade]

roger that, thanks for the info

[mossy aurora]

if precision rifle does 11 flat damage

[craggy pier]

so should stick to shotguns, sniper and high caliber pistol 1 shot to the back

[mossy aurora]

you would need 37% special damage booster to kill it from the back

11 * 2 (back damage) * 1.37 = 30.14

[craggy pier]

seems that my math wasnt the best

[worn spade]

tysm for both of you XD

[mossy aurora]

if you are trying for that, try to be as directly behind the charger scout as possible

back damage falls off the more you go off towards the side

[craggy pier]

then you would need to double tap no?

[distant ice]

Hello

[mossy aurora]

oh wait charger scout has 60 hp

[distant ice]

Indeed

[mossy aurora]

then it is not possible

[craggy pier]

double tap with said booster or 3 without (if you somehow can do that no cfoam)

[distant ice]

You probably can't shoot 3 times fast enough

[craggy pier]

what level u tryna shoot a charger scout

[mossy aurora]

p rifle shoots fast enough to double tap though right? i havent used it

[craggy pier]

should be able to

[craggy pier]

you can with rev

another reason why rev better

:))))

well for me in c3 not much use if i dont get to armory

[sweet oak]

To safely deal with a scout, would C-foam be a good measure?

[daring fog]

normal or charger scout?

[sweet oak]

just normal

Me and my friends have not made it fairly far before so we only know the basic enemies

[daring fog]

for starting out in the game? yes later on? try to learn how to melee kill them

[sweet oak]

Alright cool. We already have someone who can melee them, just wondering for future reference

Thank you

[daring fog]

or if there aint a second scout in the room (or 2 rooms away if you have the doors open) you can always shoot them when you think you can deal with the rest of the room waking up

[slim pond]

Any particular reason that a new friend of mine has Dauda with an Auto Sentry and Bishop with a Machine Pistol? (never played before R7)

[sonic bolt]

How do I complete secondary objective on C2?

Im looking to get prisoner efficiency

[craggy pier]

insert all 6 cells in the generator

then the bulkhead door to secondary objective will open

[sonic bolt]

thank you

[craggy pier]

you'll be teleported to a desert area and you'll have to run to a nearby outpost, find the terminal do the command and it'll teleport you back, find the matter wave projector and use it to teleport back finish the scan and do another scan and finish and then run to extraction

there's a mom behind a blood door so look out

[sonic bolt]

thank you so much

i would have died

[sharp lintel]

How do I open the optional door in D1?

[noble sierra]

Which one? If you mean Z203, you can open it after you opened Z193's sec door.

[sharp lintel]

Thanks

[woeful sedge]

what gadgets for b2 secondary?

[viscid wolf]

bio bio sentry mine or swap a bio for cfoam @woeful sedge

[woeful sedge]

double bio

neat

[sharp lintel]

Couldn't figure out how to get the damn five scan

[noble sierra]

Find the terminal, put in the command.

[open fossil]

To lower the X Charger scan to a V scan you need to reach the terminal that's at the last room of the furthest zone. ||often has a bunch of charger scouts inside||

[jaunty bear]

its stealth hell lol

[icy nacelle]

I mean you get plenty of ammo and stuff to just go loud with them tbh.

[open fossil]

I mean ya stealth the first few rooms, find out which zone the keycard is in, either ||Mother or Tank zone||. Then stealth that, grab the key and do the door alarm. And finally access the terminal. All things considered it ain't terrible in terms of stealth. Even less so with aggressive stealth or just going loud

[eternal bridge]

It is! Lol! It’s a little bit of stress but not as bad as c2 Overload

[worthy jacinth]

for c3 overload i did one of the terminal uplinks however when i tried doing the second terminal uplink it said another uplink is already taking place i cant do another one

however the first terminal was crossed out and im 99% sure i completed the uplink

is there a reason i couldnt start an uplink for the second terminal?

[open fossil]

Did you perhaps restart from a checkpoint? There is a bug where the uplink connection will already be established, all you have to do is go to the accompanying terminal and type UPLINK_CONFIRM

Otherwise I'd say make absolutely sure you stood by the terminal for the uplink until the hud updated, crossing out the terminal and saying it was complete

[worthy jacinth]

no checkpoints i try to do everything w/o checkpoints cause checkpoints bug the game out for me pretty badly especially with cells

next time ill do the uplink confirm thanks for the help

[open fossil]

Then i'd say only other thing would be you didn't fully complete the uplink. Gotta make sure the hud updates so that it shows one terminal with a line through it. Unless this is a whole different bug, but given this game I wouldn't be shocked

[worn spade]

how to unlock e1 ?

[daring fog]

clear all missions main objectives

[daring fog]

any estimate on how many rundowns it gonna take to get cfoam and matchmaking fixed? (still having my bet on 20) ^^

[craggy pier]

next rundown

[viscid wolf]

25

[tacit zealot]

what's wrong with Cfoam?

[craggy pier]

clipping thru doors/enemies eating cfoam on doors

[open fossil]

I mean it's pretty finnicky. clipping through doors or sticking to enemies through the doors. but that's more so general collision. Also some doors keep the c-foamed look even after breaking

also noticed especially with C3 that sometimes you'll c-foam an enemy, say a charger scout. Then you kill it. and it'll leave just a floating blob of cfoam that never seems to despawn

Also had enemies not properly display the fact they're c-foamed. and that's about all that comes to mind

[limpid valve]

Is D1 Overload supposed to spawn 3 snatchers at a time?

[tight drum]

No but it does.

[daring fog]

supposed to spawn 1 but sometimes it spawns by player count

and sometimes by packages received it seems xD

[daring fog]

how many times do you have to ask the same question till you are satisfied?

[limpid valve]

Well that is an interesting bug.

[daring fog]

same as e1 new enemy spawning twice or more times if there is lag during the door opening trigger

but it will probably just be shelved as a minor bug like cfoam

though we would know if the devs ever checked these channels xD

[icy cave]

You are in a fantasy world m8

[craggy pier]

cant a man dream?

[daring fog]

dream yes. chase after imaginary butterflies? nope

[sonic bolt]

How do i get more pieces of apparel? I've finished almost all the challenges in the prisoner apparel requisition section but i was wondering what to do after that

[craggy pier]

u wait till next rundown I think 🤔

[open fossil]

Yep, can only wait after that

[wary linden]

or polish your skills by playing the game

[open fossil]

well that's great and all, but in terms of apparel they'll have to wait until the next rundown to earn anything. Whatever else they do with their time doesn't really matter

[stoic breach]

If you just joined this rundown, you could maybe get some cosmetics via R6, but we can't broadcast how to do R6.

[viscid wolf]

they get wiped upon return to R7 unfortunately

[tacit zealot]

Playing R6 is also kinda fucked as well; additional plugins are required for those who want to unlock levels/ progress

[honest halo]

when you use the terminal to list the equipment available does it always list the equipment in order of room number? like for B1, rooms 88-95, all items are listed for rooms 88 first and so on?

[worthy jacinth]

it was indeed crossed out

its why i was so surprised

[tiny tundra]

(D1 spoilers) ||How many snatchers are you supposed to get after doing the terminal command in Overload on D1? My group has gotten 2 every 4ish minutes and just now got 3||

[craggy pier]

it's meant to be 1 but desync can cause teh game to spawn more than 1

[tiny tundra]

Very cool

[tacit zealot]

youj can get all clients to leave and have host solo do the command to ensure you only get 1

and then have them rejoin

[verbal zinc]

What’s better the Mechatronic B5 LFR or the Mechatronic SGB3?

[craggy pier]

are you a santonian hdh user

or a mastaba fixed blade user

[verbal zinc]

I prefer the maco drillhead for safe close combat encounters

[tacit zealot]

I love the Bionocle MTR 590 🔥🔥🔥 it’s so much better than the Matsador X3-70 in terms of damage 🤯

[craggy pier]

the Bataldo J 300 is pretty good for close encounters

[verbal zinc]

Bionicle? 👀

[tacit zealot]

Also orange > blue

[verbal zinc]

Try the Bionicle 8573 Nuhvok-Kal-Brickmerge! It wets speed with sheer power and it’s gravity shield makes it the most dangerous of its kind.

[tacit zealot]

It also has 0.1 better ammo float point and 5 cm better fuck off range , idk why anyone still uses the MegaMasturbator73-XFM compared to it

[verbal zinc]

Stuck in the past

[tacit zealot]

[noble sierra]

I'm a proud R1 veteran and thus I claim Mechatronic B5 LFR is superior. Deploy it behind a c-foamed door and it's gonna melt the waves with point blank damage + full back multiplier + player count multiplier.

[daring fog]

doesnt always work

[tacit zealot]

it does

[daring fog]

my last 5 runs say differently

[tacit zealot]

4 snatchers spawning is because desync means events are cloned for client

if you have any other explanation for why the bug happens i'm hear for it

[daring fog]

seems you get desynchs as your own host then

[tacit zealot]

??? but there's still only 1 player

its that the event is cloning for each player

[daring fog]

how do you explain some solo runs getting more then 1?

[tacit zealot]

Do you have evidence?

It's kind of similar when two people open a door at the same time with enough desync, cloning the events attached to the door, which is why sometimes people get two invincible tanks on E1

make sure people aren't in your lobby as well when u put terminal command in..

[daring fog]

which isnt directly cloning but bad package handling

[tacit zealot]

Yeah exactly, I'm not exactly completely familiar with all the technical terms

the event repeats for each player

[daring fog]

host side doesnt seem to check if it already processed a package with the spawn trigger and thus uses it for up to each player

[verbal zinc]

Works fine for me

[maiden cypress]

always has for me lmao

[unreal abyss]

D1 solo ive only ever seen 1 snatcher spawn

[craggy pier]

playing with bots i only get 1 snatcher

[daring fog]

cant replicate atm with snatcher instant killing me

[unreal abyss]

standing next to a door is an easy way to dodge snatcher grab

[daring fog]

that one never worked for me xD

[unreal abyss]

rip

[daring fog]

easiest is using parkour

so something we will become unable to do next patch

[unreal abyss]

wait are we losing out jump?

honey feet 😮

sticky slapping noises each step

[daring fog]

no but the devs hate parkour so all the previous rundowns they put invis walls

[unreal abyss]

well thats if there is another patch this rundown

it takes a noticeable amount of time for patches

[daring fog]

there will be ^^ called r8

there wasnt a patch yet cause they had vacation/hiatus

[icy cave]

I would not expect R8 before november/december tho

[daring fog]

i´d hope it would be after real bug fixes but thats just wishful thinking

[icy cave]

Well R7 patch totally fixed all the bugs from R6 😂 😂 😂

[noble sierra]

? GTFO is bug-free, we don't need bug fixes, just new movement restraint mechanics and new hazards that force players to crouch when moving.

[daring fog]

and god exists

[soft crater]

Bugs?

Y'all mean features?

[craggy pier]

People these days

[turbid moss]

Hey, any tips on killing ||tanks||? Because we just finished D1 and barely managed to get them lol

[craggy pier]

Elevation

Go up stairs or a ladder and shoot it from above

[turbid moss]

Yeah well what I did was change elevations so he kept using a ladder lmao

[turbid moss]

Okay will try, I guess I'm going to need this knowledge on D2 and E1

[daring fog]

have 2 persons on opposite sides of him alternating their fire on him

[craggy pier]

You can have your team distract it and shoot it when it turns its back to you

[turbid moss]

Yeah I'll keep these in mind

I just wanted to know if there is an easy way

but I guess if this works then I'm fine with it

[daring fog]

easy way? wrong game

[dapper compass]

yeah flanking is the way, elevation as a bonus

Tanks are really reactive to damage taken and usually turns in less than a second

make em' spin

[daring fog]

best way to annoy them is still during their screams as long as they dont have their backs in the walls like they normally like to do

since they normally dont turn during their scream

[soft crater]

Muh 18 round snipa

[icy cave]

Every one on another side of him and shoot whenever he focus someone else

[turbid moss]

gotcha

[icy cave]

👍

[turbid moss]

lmao its true tho

[weary mesa]

easy way is door bug

[tiny tundra]

Oh, cool; will this ensure only 1 shows up for all the other waves too?

[tacit zealot]

Yes

[craggy pier]

how to join a lobby of a friend without steam?

[open fossil]

have em provide their lobby code. Just copy it to your clipboard and a new button will appear on the main rundown screen asking if you'd like to join lobby via code

[craggy pier]

where can i copy it to the clipboard?

[cobalt pollen]

there should be a button in the lobby where it says "copy lobby id to clipboard"

[daring fog]

big red button right side of lobby screen

or in settings while ingame

[craggy pier]

wait tf it shows up nothing:(

[daring fog]

if he gave the code to you its on the rundown screen middle left
for the join button

[craggy pier]

theres only matchmaking

[daring fog]

then either the code he gave you doesnt work or something else bugged out

[craggy pier]

Ok, thank you for your help 🙂

[daring fog]

clipboard is ctrl+c

[icy cave]

Make also sure you both BOUGHT the game

[craggy pier]

we bought it cracked

*i

[icy cave]

Well there you go, that will never work with the legit steam version

[steel valley]

bought it
cracked

??????

[rigid sinew]

[open fossil]

damn, I think I did it wrong, didn't buy it cracked. I just bought crack

[daring fog]

lol

[neon gust]

South america moment

You can buy pirated games from the street

So you CAN buy a cracked game

See GTA san andreas for ps2 as an example

[soft crater]

It's better to get older single player games cracked

[craggy pier]

So like, how do I unlock masks?

[craggy pier]

complete main, secondary, and overload objectives

u can see what u have left to do by clicking "all unlocks" on the rundown screen

most of the rewards are random tho

Ah, so its just random mostly?

i see

[soft crater]

Random however main/secondary/overload obj clears have their own pools of cosmetics

While 3 cosmetics are confirmed to be obtained. Assuming you complete everything

[opaque blade]

is there a way to change the alarm sequence bgm to the early access one?

[icy cave]

No

[opaque blade]

;((

[rough moss]

Will they be planning on adding colourblind settings to the game anytime soon?

[digital chasm]

in r7 c2 how do i open secondary?

[spark wolf]

put in all the cells

but you should also do the scan that will pop up before going there

[digital chasm]

the scan at the end?

[spark wolf]

the scan at the generators

[digital chasm]

ok tyvm

[winged lantern]

Is there a particular strat for D1 OVL?

[ruby wasp]

Retry till you get 1 snatcher per wave

[noble sierra]

(Kill snatcher > do objective) * N

[dapper compass]

||-know the map layout well enough to navigate quickly and efficiently (especially in the error alarm area, which I prefer to take as the end result is a positive net worth of resources)
-figure out spots where you can easily break line of sight with snatchers to bait their grab
-make sure to clear the snatcher before doing an alarm or entering a room that you need to stealth
-2 to 3 sniper sentries and do the Charger class X alarm to avoid sneaking mom/tank + charger scouts with the snatcher pressure on top||

That's what worked for me

[distant gate]

Having 4 competent players is the best Strat.

[proper glen]

What is the effective order to do the cells in C2PE?

[distant gate]

use #1&2 to grab bulk. use #5&6 to do overload

[proper glen]

So just take 3/4 back to generator then walk all the way back to ovl with 5/6?

[distant gate]

yes

[proper glen]

Does it matter if you put 5 in generator before bringing 6?

[distant gate]

if you have not used a checkpoint respawn, no.

if you have, glitch will remove the fogs

[proper glen]

I see. Thanks for the help

[distant gate]

[proper glen]

I spent 10 minutes googling before I found no results and realized google was the worst place to look :L

[viscid wolf]

correction @proper glen

after u plug 3/4 in, you return to ovl and clear the zone

then do 5/6 and start the M alarm

[proper glen]

we just clear the zone before doing the second main obj for 3/4

you can safe clear the ovl before starting the second terminal

[viscid wolf]

ya but u have one extra spawn point

[distant gate]

He's a big boy he can handle it.

[daring fog]

whats the devs stance on grenades again?

[craggy pier]

A no no

[dry pumice]

Big fat "no"

They already regret adding the mine deployer

[neon gust]

The mine deployer atleast requires a mine to kill a wave

a granade you just run around and throw it

[dry pumice]

They could always try the C4 route

Make it manually detonated, so that it required good timing and some extra skills on top of "put and forget"

Maybe give it like 2-3 seconds of cooldown after being deployed before it can be detonated to avoid "throw and blow midair" meta

Definitely would make for an interesting alternative. Will add more skills to mining doors (imagine carefully listening to the door being broken and then trying to perfectly time the detonation based on just that) but also will make miner more viable outside of only mining doors

[neon gust]

then people would take mine since its easier

you could still just run around and detonate c4 when you want

kill the wave

[craggy pier]

regret adding the mine deployer

😂

[soft crater]

return to 4 cfoam meta

[trail seal]

It has been 6 months and 11 days. Is sniper melee fixed yet?

[distant ice]

No

Try in another 6 months 11 days

[spark wolf]

its very hard

[supple sky]

Hey everyone ! New player here ! I just finished tutorial and i want to try the game but i have questions about matchmaking. Will I be paired with new players as well or is the matchmaking random ? Just asking cause I don't want to ruin a game for good players and if it's randomized i'll go with bots. Thank you !

[distant ice]

Mm is random but lfg exists with a channel for beginners

Also most likely they'd be ruining the newbie experience for you not the other way around

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[supple sky]

That's true ❤️

Ok thanks i'll check it out

[wraith talon]

me and my friends just finished b1, and i was wondering if we should do b2 or c1 next. any suggestions?

[steel valley]

b2

[wraith talon]

thx

[fringe pelican]

@icy cave PE is if theres a secondary objective and an overload. If either one of those are not present in a level you cannot get a "PE" for it. There are currently only 3 levels in Rundown 7 that have PE

[icy cave]

I know I finished R7

[fringe pelican]

ah whoops meant to tag @cloud laurel instead

@deft moss From #how-to-matchmake :

PE - Stands for Prisoner Efficiency. This means that the players are aiming to complete all 3 sectors of a expedition in the same run. Alternatively, some people will use the instead of typing out PE. Only those expeditions that have all 3 sectors can have a PE clear.

[icy cave]

@deft moss read here 👆

[deft moss]

thank you 👍

[nocturne plover]

What weapons are good for burst fire?

[dry pumice]

Uh, what are we talking about specifically?

Do you mean weapons that HAVE burst fire, or weapons that are easy to trigger discipline?

[nocturne plover]

Something that has or would be nice to burst fire with

[dry pumice]

Currently, this rundown, the only burst-fire weapon is The Carbine which shoots a burst of 4 low-caliber bullets.
Its' bodyshot damage was buffed, and it can kill an average biter in like 2 bursts, but only from close range as damage fall off kicks in very soon.
It's very easy to spam, and is basically a fancy tacticool SMG alternative.

For full-auto weapons that can be bursted if needed we have the default AR, the Bullpup, the PDW and... The machine gun, even despite the fact that the charging mechanic specifically tries to prevent that. But if you can manage to get a hold of that thing - it's ammo efficiency is very strong.

We used to have a proper burst rifle during R6, but it went away in R7

[nocturne plover]

Alrighty, once I get the game running again I might try all of those

[dry pumice]

Oh and i forgot about Heavy Assault Rifle.
They nerfed its' recoil something nasty in a very specific way that prevents you from tapping it. It now most optimally performs precisely with controlled bursts of like 4-5 rounds. You can still tap it, but its cringe when you do that.

[soft crater]

I wouldn't say prevent you from tapping it but rather it's just a matter of controlling it

even then you can still tap fire from the hip pretty accurately within 5-7 meters or so

[dry pumice]

Well, it basically requires you to guess where the target is, because the whole gun jumps upwards with each tap and blocks your FoV

Never seen a gun perform like that in any game ever

[soft crater]

that's if you tap fire it too fast

HAR benefits from controlled burst/tap firing

you can't just tap fire as quickly. especially aiming

full auto can be controlled to a degree depending on your recoil control skill

[mossy aurora]

Tap fire the hel shotgun

[craggy pier]

yes we added actual recoil to the gun to disincentivise going full auto

that's why it prevents you from tap firing in a very specific way

incredible logic

[soft crater]

wouldn't surprise me if they added semi-auto recoil increase vs continuous firing recoil

in which Vanguard has this but that's also a shite game

[wooden harness]

Question on R7D1 Overload: I tried earlier today and the added error alarm spawned an inconsistent number of enemies per wave. Sometimes it was 2 per wave, other times 3. Occasionally just 1. Is this how it is supposed to work? It felt like a big ammo drain

[stoic breach]

It's the assumption, it's only supposed to spawn one per 4 minutes, but due to desync it can spawn up to 8 (if you get the double spawn glitch).

However, if you get to a checkpoint all the enemy disappears if you restart.

[wooden harness]

Ouch ok. Good to know it is not the intended amount of nonsense. Next time we will push for a checkpoint then. Sort of gave up when we realized how many were coming after us

[stoic breach]

Just have everyone besides the host leave the game, put in the command, then have the enemy spawn and have everyone rejoin again.

That should just give you 1 per 4 minutes.