#gtfo-technical-support
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Not everyone is able to or wants to open ports, and asking for someone's IP address to connect is a lot more difficult than using Steam to tell the game how to connect people together is a lot easier. You can complain to Steam that their service isn't as reliable as you'd like.
Have fun guys 🙂
Complain to steam? Why? I didn't "Buy" steam, I bought a game from a game developer (4 copies actually). If I am going to complain (which I am), I am going to do it to the game devs (which I was hoping doing here would accomplish, but maybe they don't monitor this at all).
copy pasting this for the other guys who just checked up
GTFO runs on peer-to-peer connections, not servers
It has to be, yeah. We at 10 Chambers don't have servers, GTFO relies on Steam's relay servers to connect players with one a other
steam sided issue
You not having servers != have to rely on steam.
Steam isn't hosting.
That's a false equivalency.
Steam is facilitating a connection.
The game devs simply didn't allow any other facilitation, simple as that.
but maybe they don't monitor this at all
I pass feedback along to the developers and I'll let them know you are disappointed in their choice of networking system used.
Thanks.
Steam is facilitating a connection
Exactly! This is why you're having the issue because steam is down and not able to facilitate that peer to peer connection
I'll let the devs know you would like a way to directly connect to someone without using steam.
hey gtfo is back up in north america
Is there anything else you'd like me to pass along to them?
@glossy heron glad to hear 🙂 seems like most are able to get back in 🙂
Again, fully understand that doc, I'm saying it's a bad design choice to 1- not allow users to facilitate their own connection and 2 - have the network check up front (at least let people get in and set settings, even if you never allow direct connection)
hey gtfo is back up in north america
@glossy heron I'm having luck as well
I'd rather have more content than additional connection options
There's a reason that negative reviews on this game talk about this exact issue, I just ignored them thinking I could get in and set settings and maybe direct connect (nothing indicated that there was no option for direct connect).
I'll let them know that you are requesting that feature, you can also use the #gtfo-game-suggestions to put that feature request in yourself
In addition you can open the GTFO_Settings file from here and adjust
%userprofile%\appdata\LocalLow\10 Chambers Collective\GTFO
GTFO_Settings.txt
has anyone had problems with the 3rd and 4th person not seeing each other and is there a way to fix it?
Having the players who can't see each other restart the game is the fix.
it hasnt fixed it
at all
we changed the party leader and it still hasnt fixed
It seems the issue is consistent with 1 person
who just got the game and is refunding
That's a bummer. could be their system or network connection causing a desync. I know the devs are working hard on fixing various desync issues
Keeping getting error saying no connection. I’ve tried restarting Steam and my PC. Nothing is working
Steam has been having issues.
If it's any consolation, at 4pm four of us got in and were able to beat 2 stages on the second level.
Hi!
Does anyone know why the game wont load any of the images for guns in the lobby
or let me join my friends?
Shows the lobby but not me in the lobby
I've already reinstalled numerous times
Oof I cant even run a solo game..
?t fix
If you are having an issue with the game please perform the following steps. This will often times fix the issue. If that doesn't work try the steps in ?t fix2
Perform the following steps:
- Uninstall game on steam.
- Press the Windows Key and the R key at some time. This will open a "Run" dialog.
Inside put the following in:
%userprofile%\AppData\LocalLow\
Press enter. A new file explorer window will open.
Delete the folder called: 10 Chambers Collective
Repeat same steps for following:
%userprofile%\Appdata\Local\Temp\- Install the game
@worldly stag can you try those steps please
If the steps in ?t fix didn't work, try the following:
- Make sure your computer has the latest Windows Updates.
- Make sure your Video Card drivers are up to date.
- Restart your Modem, Router, and PC.
- Make sure your computer is clear of dust, good airflow, and not overheating.
yeah at list the first folder should always exist
re-installing now
uhhh
so i can't seem
to be able to access the game. it says i need an online connection, which i clearly do.
@tranquil path that's going to be caused by a steam outage
hold up, i think i've got it figured out tbh
the games out of beta, right?
therefore beta keyers like myself get the clap?
ya
Hi, sorry to bother you, hope all is well! Can you shed any light into one 'max render queue frames' and 'cpu culling workload' in options do? Or what settings may afford higher frame rate?
render queue frames is about vsync and is a bit tricky to explain
basically, keep it at either 0 or 1
But culling, that’s easier
Basically, higher > more cpu work
Lowe > more GPU work
Appreciate the effort at trying to answer but can you give a proper answer please?
GTFO devs seem to struggle quantifying anything.
generally revolves around the cpu “culling” more things around you meaning you get your GPU to only render parts of the frame that is necessary
CPU works out a lot more of the triangles in your view-frame meaning less for your GPU to render
I see, im GPU limited. Why were the options left in the game for public release?
Why is there no ingame function to match-make ?
Forces all users to use discord to find games, right?
Wait a minute, you aren't even a dev xD
ok so first thing is that the options were left in because 9/10 times the more settings you can give to your players the better they can customize to their personal system spec
oh lmao
just some user who has spent a really long time on this server
That doesn't give you any ground to answer these questions
and the devs approve of this?
lmfao why wouldn’t they
Can you quantify exactly what - Hello there. As you reiterated, sending excessive messages is considered spam. We deemed your messages excessive due to how many of your copied/pasted messages we could see in each channel and without having to scroll up. We understand that you may be fine with playing with people across different regions, but we'd like to ask you to limit how many of these channels you opt to send invites in. Furthermore, not being automuted doesn't determine if you were spamming or not.
I need a quantitiive answer before I approach Steam
think carefully.
these questions aren’t even worthy of a dev having to answer them
a couple of game settings is neither here nor there
and they’ve very much communicated a lot of this stuff
lmfao this happens in every game discord server, what are you trying to get at
you asked one question about game settings and now you’re saying the games gunna be removed from steam?
Im sorry that english isn't your first language
you seem to be struggling
perhaps you can find someone who is able to comment on the issues I am raising.
pewrhaps not?
Honestly, I would insist on the inverse.
I would like you to elaborate on why I should not be able to answer these questions, based on how common they are.
Are you happy with this being sent as a screenshot to Steam staff?
fuck yeah go off king
Thank you.
Hi! Let's keep this channel for Techincal Questions only please.
love trolls
one minute they ask a on topic question and the next they’re calling steam staff
@white radish just don't even give them leway, ignore them or call mods
facts
That is not the right place for such topics ^^
Also, an answer on the rendered queue size if anyone was interested:
The Max Pre-rendered Frames setting controls the size of the flip queue.
For each frame rendered, the CPU has to create a command buffer - which is then fed to the GPU. The Flip Queue is a queue of such command buffers.
Why a queue? Because sometimes the CPU might not be able to create a command buffer on time (maybe it got interrupted by some OS task ... etc.) the queue would give a buffer of sorts and the GPU can continue to knock out frames - the CPU can then try to "catch back up" to keep the Flip Queue full.
A large queue would buffer against frame rate inconsistencies due to the CPU not being on time but would add latency since the command buffers sent to the GPU process are "old" vs what is being simulated by the game.
A small queue would have low latency but if the CPU fails to keep up, the GPU won't have anything to process and will idle until the command buffer arrives (late) resulting in stutter.
You can use a lower queue if your CPU is good and the game isn't too demanding on the CPU - default is 3, lowest in DX is 1.
With a i7-7700 I can run with a Max Pre-rendered Frames of 1 in FFXIV and the Witcher 3. (I also cap the frame rate. Just thought I would mention it.)
Thanks for the copy paste.
Shame you didnt know that before.
And instead tried to bullshit me xD
Crab, please be nice.
Why is your 'help' chat staffed with volunteers?
I would like to know
I've paid for this game
This is a open channel
Everyone can answer.
There is nothing like "Help-staff"
There are normal Discord mods.
because the team making the game is 9 people + D0c.
you do realise you have to meet criteria to remain on steam?
are you serious?
Honestly going to try and tell me this is my fault?!
WHEN YOU ARE SELLING A GAME ON STEAM?
Please refrain from calling people retards or anything like that.
<@&408548765599793173> can we get some help here please?
yeah lavars is too nice
'Would you mind re-posting your message?
[7:03 AM]
fuck yeah go off king'
i told you at least 5 times in dms to contact @rose thicket
So your representatives are ok to swear?
please clarify?
this is all going to Steam btw so I suggest you answer carefully
He is a normal user.
I have already and am awaiting an answer
lavars is the closest one to a representative, posting so far Crab.
just with a role everyone can get.
I was advised by SimonViklund directly to contact this channel for tech advice
also there’s nothing against the rules in regards to swearing
so far your representatives have sent abusive messages
And there's a difference between swearing and offend someone
Ambassadors do not represent us, it is simply a title
and i have been sworn at
Crab, you need to chill out. If you have issues. I implore you to use the @rose thicket.
And i say it the last time, this channel is no place for disscusions.
Send any information, gripe, or complain there.
But, keep it out of this channel.
That's final.
And the spots on various levels where you can stand and not be attacked.
Well, there you go
Duping will probably be fixed in rundown 3. As for safe spots, there are a ton, most of them get caught. However, some are ok as long as the ranged infected can hit you.
fixed*
Thanks ezzy
np
We'd also prefer it if the methods for doing these bugs weren't publically discussed, a report to the Devs is more than enough
Talking about them is fine but not the exact methods
Also this is a tech support channel so...
you can also report the spots ( on #bug-reporting details how to better ) where you cant get hit so the devs can check whats the problem and fix them for the next rundown or the same rundown if they have some tweaks to make
There's a bug sometimes where you enter a room and the music starts to play, but it sometimes cuts off and the only thing that can be heard are the sound effects? Is anyone familiar with this problem?
Yes this is known about, please make a bug report with your logs and any other evidence, like video. To help us isolate the cause 🙂 https://discordapp.com/channels/408196129470152705/633424549425184778/633438009311756288
Are the steam server's back? Like can I start playing the game again
that is totally region depended
Can someone help me with my game?
Its keeps crashing I've deleted it multiple times and reinstalled it but it still doesn't want to work
Oh might want to also check #known-issues.
Try finding the crash log by following this route on your computer, but looking for this game's name instead. Assuming the routing works the same as another game I've played on Unity. But you'll probably want that log to be able to share for troubleshooting. Roughly.
C:\Users\username\AppData\LocalLow\ <InsertGameName>\output_log.txt
Doesnt do not disturb stop the admins from knowing when our messages come in.(could be wrong)
if thats the case how can we rely on admins in this discord?
Mod Contact is a good resource for situations that require immediate attention
mod contact msg's them im pretty sure
Or just for general contacting of the mods, even if it doesn't require immediate attention.
Doesnt do not disturb stop the admins from knowing when our messages come in.(could be wrong)
if thats the case how can we rely on admins in this discord?
@crude solar If you need to reach our mod team, please message @rose thicket which sends notifications to our entire mod and admin team.
DND prevents some ping sounds from going off, as well as popup notifications on mobile. I see unread message indicators and check every channel frequently, so does most of our admin team.
Is there any small tips on how to make the game framerate faster? Video settings or something?
What hardware do you have?
dell?
ok, press 3 following keys at the same time:
Crtl
alt
del
and your screen changes.
it will say "taks manager"
click on it
yup.
..
i need CPU and GPU
or send me a screenshot (press windows-key + shift +S) and select the area you wanna take as a screenshot, then you only need to paste it here (ctrl+v)
ok awesome.
i already see one problem ^^
these are the minimun specs you should have :
Minimum:
OS: Windows 7 64-Bit or later
CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K or AMD equivalent
RAM: 8GB
HDD: 4 GB download, 10-15 GB unpacked
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 2 GB or AMD equivalent
DirectX: Version 11.0 compatible video card
Network: Broadband Internet connection
important are
CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K or AMD equivalent
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 2 GB or AMD equivalent
I know you are trying to help me, but what you just said is very... imformational..
Your cool, I love that your trying to help. But in a way I just need it dumbed down.
and yes I see it
Yours is... "alright"
same with "Memory"
but it is weird that you have a UHD graphics 630.
You ahve a desktop pc or a laptop?
This one is a desktop
Ok, i know this one sounds weird... but can you send me a picture of the backside of your pc?
the monitor or the actual base?
your actuall pc ^^ where all the cables go out/in ^^
ohhhhhhhh
?
where did you got this one :D
What?
Either is has a compact GPU integrated, and you accidently use the wrong output, or it has no included and it is just a weird build from the start.
We can check something.
you have windows 10, right?
Yes, I believe so.
ok, search for "device manager" and open the following tab (it may or may not be there)
ive got network adapter?
Display adapters.
ops i see it
all good ^^
Intel(R) UHD Graphics 630
ok. that was my fear xD
You typing long after saying that is mine..
xD
ok
you said you conform it, did you, or someone else changed anything on the hardware (like opened the case and changed stuff)
Not really the system base was not messed with (that I know of) but the system itself was changed from a business and work network system onto my own system ware.
Yeh.... that is the problem.
as it has a ok-ish cpu and enough memory.. but your gpu is basically only for games that use barely to no hardware.
basically if you try to go fast in a car but have no wheels xD
When did you bought the system?
and i would say you mainly play league of legends and minecraft?
minecraft yes, but not mainly
but how would it compare to something like Overwatch, or COD WW2?
COD WW2 i don't know, but overwatch runs pretty good on a lot of pcs. same with games like minecraft, lol, cs:go etc. and the only thing you could try is to lower the Resolution (you probably have 1920x1080) you could try (1280x720).
ok, ill give that a try. Any other suggestions?
Yeah, i mean it is not the worst GPU on the market. gaming is possible. But with these kind of GPUs they are depending on the CPU, it's almost like if you have to tow a car (and the cpu has to pull) which is never good for several reasons :D
How many FPS do you get i GTFO (they have a integrated FPS counter in the HUD options)
41 about
i mean to be fair, the game is not optimized yet.
Is it that bad?
yeah but no.
they are only 9 people that create this game. And as they are only in early access there is always air to improve optimization wise speaking.
Ya I get it, it’ll take time. And it’s a good game already so.. time
I mean the game is playable with 40 FPS, i played worse x3
Lol
Just for interest, what have you paid for this pc ^^
Around $250, it was slightly damaged on the exterior.
that's kind of a lot, but at the same time it is ok.
I got a monitor with it tho. I’m not too picky.
I’m saving for later to build my own PC in later terms
Thanks! Also you are really nice, appreciate it! 👍
if you want you can send me screenshots of your settings and maybe i find a setting that can be improved.
best is private message.
so i see it directly ^^
Sure👌
I have a problem with my audio here in discord and I wish someone could help me.
So whenever I launch the game along with the discord app and join a room, the voice chat of the room I join often has low volume so I can't hear the other players talking to me, so I have to compensate the volume of the GTFO just to hear the other player's voice which is hard because I always end up alerting the infected because I can't hear them well.
What should I do with my audio problem?
could be a discord setting, there was something, let me check
Thank you very much!
The attenuation is turned on, a little bit
"When others speak" is enabled
Sure hope so : D
other setting that can cause trouble:
take your output device (headset) and change this setting in properties
Okay will do!
and if you want we can test it.
Oh no worries, I can handle it!

Thank you very much for the kind and quick response!
just @ me if you still encounter this problem and i see if i can find what causes the problem ^^
Have a great day
Okay!Thank you!Have a great day too!

thanks for keeping this channel clean
@austere wind this isn't the best channel for this, please use #gtfo-chat
I've just noticed that on the rundown screen, it says I didn't complete c2 and has the completion percentage at 50% also says I only did c1 once, when I had two completions. The rundown screen used to say 100% now doesnt, I don't understand why?
@mighty cipher Do you have 2 completions for C1?
I have three now, I just did it again @ornate jungle
I’ve completed it once, it used to recognize that i did, doesn’t anymore
Says no completions now
Oh, that's a bug for sure
Sometimes players don't get completions and I'm sure the devs are working on them. They've patched it several times and I haven't encounter those for a while. For now you'll have to complete C2 again 😅
Oh, try hosting the game too. That'd certainly make it better
Bleh, okay well I’m bout to run it now, hopefully I’ll get a clear. Thanks dude
Good luck down there 😄
You still can play the next levels though, the host just has them unlocked.
anyone awake
well, just joined this discord since it was suggested in my " Network Error: No Connection" error message
ive restarted steam and my computer but am still getting it.. weird
This is a problem with steam. #known-issues
thank you
I hope it will resolve very fast for you ^^
@proper grove You have the solution for this bug please ?
Thank You.
Hi, for what bug again?
"NETWORK ERROR: NO CONNECTION"@proper grove
Since when do you have the problem?
1 week
What internet provider do you have?
@proper grove I am in France and I am subscribed to orange internet
Ok let me see if i find any problems, i will @ you in a couple of minutes
Have you checked if you have the correct version?
Can you send me a screenshot with the info on the bottom right please?
@long kite
you are on the wrong version, please restart steam
ok i will do it now
There should be an update
when you are on the right version, you should be able to play.
@long kite tell me when the update went through
The game won’t let me set my controls when using an Xbox controller. I can set the A button and right trigger for anything I want, but the other buttons are not able to be applied for some reason
Do you have multiple controllers? try others if you can.
Hello 
I have this problem
Network error:no connection
Even if i have internet connection
I just started playing yesterday
@urban blaze what version of the game do u have
See if you can update the game in steam
Check your downloads tab
I had the same problem when I came back to the game but I could update it in the downloads tab
😿its not there
Might have to get a mod in here not sure what's going on XD
Oke 💖
I had the same problem also but mine was just a matter of updating the game
<@&408548765599793173> @urban blaze any help this good fella
Hey, we're not exactly Tech Supports. But, I can try to take a look.
I guess it would be admins that's tech support for the game
Not really.
@urban blaze here might have a bit more luck
Some of us knows a lot about it, that's is. :)
It looks like the wrong version. 0.18.
🥺 i tried deleting the settings also User→ 10 Chambers →GTFO
Lemme quickly start the Game, before I say something wrong about the version. 😅
👍 ok
Alright, the version is the right one. It might be a steam issue currently. Where are you from?
So it was a regional issue. See: https://discordapp.com/channels/408196129470152705/633424858088472578/653717685602877500 ^^"
I just restarted it and it working😻
Glad it's working. 👌
🤝 🤜 🤛
connecting is futile for me as well. either steam or playfab is screwed up today.
Some say its bcoz of network traffic👾
Hey guys,
Im planning to renew my drives, where is the progress from GTFO saved?
Is it saved somewhere on my HDD or in Steam ?
Game data is saved in online servers, so you are fine @unborn turtle
Perfect, thanks mate 👌
im having a game issue
i talk on discord fine, my internet is fine, but the timer and sleepers freeze and i cant do anything and the game still goes on. i lose a lot of time and HP and it is becoming unplayable
Do you host the game?
no
The game is peer to peer, so it can happen that the connection to the host is unstable
you should try to host the game and see if it's still the same
any other feedback in case that doesnt work ?
It'S always better to try first, so we don't corner us self with problems that are non-existing ^^ But you always can ask again
alright, thanks btw !
No problem ^^
IDK whats caused it but the game randomly got SUPER quiet to the point nobody in the squad could hear anything, is this a known issue?
All I got for when it happened was it starting after we backed out of R2B3 during the scouts scream
The scout's shout reduces sound for a couple seconds. Sometimes the sounds bug out completely for 10-30 seconds (unrelated to the scout); I had that mostly in C1 solo, thought it could be due to kiting too far away or being too long in the game
Huh how about that... thanks that honestly kinda makes sense
Hey, have a problem with D2, playing is running smoothly but opponents and time run asychron so I can not fight.
If you are not the host that's desync.
If you are the host, than it's also desync, i phrased that so stupidly xD SO yeah it's desync
No matter who hosts the problem have only me and only at these levels
Mhhh... that is weird. level spicific desync... Is it at all time or only at certain areas?
Always at these complete D2 levels. Players not only opponents and time totally funny
Mhhh. Can you make a lobby and give me the id?
no i can no host this level
do you play with the same host all the time?
no
sag ich ja komisch
we continue dm :D
That's a light bug, go into the options (ESC) and go out fixes the problem normaly ^^
when joining midway through e1 fog will infect me even with a fog turbine and repellers
That might be a desync issue. As long as you're holding the turbine, you shouldn't take any infection from the fog.
it resolved itself once i got up to 100% infection some reason
i think that's how it's suppose to be
at that distance it should only be names
R2D2-Not really technical support/bug and also so close to the next rundown. But thinking this is supposed to be "verification". Not sure if this has been reported yet. When I did a search in the discord, didn't see it.
Ya it's a typo
I wasn't sure where else to put it :x
#bug-reporting ;) even on little typos they check from time to time
ty


@stoic mortar Admins have seen it, been recorded now 🙂
ty
has anyone been getting shaders glitches and floors disappearing? i feel like i've been getting more of these since the update
I beat the first two levels with some people I met on here last week but now its showing that I haven't completed anything and need to do them both again in order to progress.
@potent pollen When do you reckon you see these glitches happen? Are they completely random or happen after you have been playing for a while, did a certain action...etc?
@frail prawn seems random i think. i play c1 mainly and it happens at the first terminal zone
Can you send in a bug report about it please? You can find all the info on how to do so in the #bug-reporting channel, and with as much detail as possible :)
I beat the first two levels with some people I met on here last week but now its showing that I haven't completed anything and need to do them both again in order to progress.
@unique pasture Hey, this is a bug that the devs are working on fixing. At this time you'll need to complete them again so credit is registered.
please make a separate chat for Russian
I can not find a Russian-speaking team in eastern Europeaking team
i think theres also a discord community for russian in the #highlighted-communities
ty)
np
this chat is close for me
oh just look the posted comments , there are the invite discords lemme find you the russian one
or do you mean find the chat I need there?
understood ty)
thats the comment with the invite link for the discord gtfo russian
You may want to DM them the link instead.
yep

Will there always be such a search for a network game?
Or will they do both strike and counter strike?
dota*
automatic search
Matchmaking will be added, how it will function has not been revealed.
thats great thanks
Hi ! uhh i have an issue about the fps it looks like im getting capped at around 60fps however i got specs that are a bit above the recommendation : i5 9400f , Gtx 1050ti , 16gb ddr4. i have checked if the v-sync was disable and im on fullscreen and i put the max framerate to 144 so im a bit lost. May I have help ?
Have you checked if in advanced video what the target framerate is set too?
i put it in 144
Try right-clicking the desktop, click NVIDIA Control Panel, go to Manage 3D Settings and click Program Settings. Search for GTFO in the list of programs and set Vertical Sync to Off.
already done
not ingame
Did you set Max Framerate in the control panel?
yes
What are your global settings set to?
Change the Resolution to 720p. restart the game, set it back to yours again.
no never above 60
wait....
and about the global settings i put everything in maxframe rate and disable the v-sync
what resolution do you play?
I'm assuming your monitor can output 144hz.
then you should get around 70-80fps
Yeah, it's probably a GPU bottleneck. Try setting your settings to the lowest to see if it improves framerate.
Change the Resolution to 720p. restart the game, set it back to yours again.
@proper grove
To be honest, the lowest settings help a little bit, but not a whole lot. What's the highest number of frames you've been able to get in the game since playing?
The recommended specs are actually a little misleading. If you are getting 70 - 80 FPS if could be that when you're in closed, small rooms. In bigger rooms, and during waves. Expect it to go down even more.
the best i can get is in 1280x1080 with 75fps
So it's a GPU bottleneck then.
my graphic card is a bit old so maybe its why i get lower frames ?
Wait, you said you had a i5 9400f?
YES
Wouldn't be enough to really use the potential of the frames. Make sure to optimize the hell out of your windows for gaming, windows has also have problems for gaming which can reduce frame rates, cause Stuttering e.t.c
ok i do
That could also be part of the bottleneck if you're not overclocking it.
2.9 GHz base frequency is pretty low for that processor.
144Hz is never a easy target. specially with such a hardware
ok because in ow or cs in very low im around 200fps
A lot of it is wasted. For me, I have to pump out high frames. I'm forced, if go below 80 FPS my games start to stutter like mad and my mouse becomes very jittery.
CS:GO is highly optimized for lower end users though.
ok thats why
The best you can do is try overclocking your processor.
thats weird because even a game like monster hunter world in very low i get 144fps almost
Yeah, like I mentioned, GTFO's lowest settings aren't exactly performant.
They help, but only a little bit.
If you upgrade to at least a 1080 or higher, you should be able to run the game at 144 fps.
Get an Rx 5700, in smaller rooms you easily hit 144hz. In bigger rooms like the E1, you hit around 100 - 130 frames. Then waves, the lowest I've been is 70.
That card runs incredibly hot though.
Depends, it runs hotter but it mainly depends on the make.
Let'S keep this channel for technical problems please ^^
And these cards also are more designed and cable to take to heat load anyways.
but ok thats a bottleneck so its normal to have this much fps
The best you can do right now is overclock your processor from the BIOS if you haven't already.
i5 9400f can get overclocked ?
Yes, I wouldn't be surprised if GTFO was bottlenecking your system. It's a game that you can run easily ana smoothly and then next minute it doesn't run as good.
Yeah, it can be overclocked to 4.1 GHz.
Intel's can, I thought?
some are locked to that.
I mean there are ways... but that's nothing you normally can archive
Okay, most are overclockable, but I checked the i5-9400f, and it can be overclocked to 4.1 GHz.
Oh, you're right. I need to stop using Reddit. 🤦
Regardless, it still boosts the frequency, which can be set in the BIOS.
2.9 GHz is pretty limiting for more demanding titles like GTFO.
ok thanks for your help and time guys 🙂
oh i think this might be the gpu regardless of this
Hello! My friend's game is loading into a black screen, and when he opens his steam overlay it becomes very glitchy, is this a known issue?
He is currently reinstalling the game onto his ssd instead of his hard drive
Hi @atomic dune He should replace his settings file, i pinned one in this channel. there's also the dorectory where to find it.
if the reinstall does not fix it ^^
I think the reinstall worked! Thank you
Hey yes, my friend is having an issue where it doesn't say it's a connection issue but after he enters the rundown he cannot join any game or no one can join him. When he joins or we try we're greeted by the screen with our character selection but with no characters, just the text INVITE
IS he on the correct version?
Um he just updated it if that says anything
Are you on the correct version?
Ok, i make a lobby, can you both try to join me?
Excuse hold on, he's redownloading the game
ok.
terribly sorry, I'll update when he tries it again
ok.
It says last updated March 23rd (currently last updated May 19th) so you are getting a cached version @cold brook. Try clearing your cache and cookies or try a different browser
tried them, not working. @wispy barn
Ahh, I must have the cached version, can replicate now. Bringing up to the team.
alright
I think you are on the wrong version of GTFO
ths
also check the options (right click properties)
im seeing the rundown 2 roadmap, not 3
The devs are working on restoring Rundown 3 on the roadmap
My friends and I still can't enjoy our this game due to crashes on all ends and horrid fps. I have done the app data clear and reinstall but that only gets one game without crash, sometimes none. Sometimes its only specific rundowns that wont work but it seems to happen randomly. We almost always have at least one person crash. Was hoping the update would solve this but that was not the case 😦 Anyone having crash and fps issues or have a fix that works?
Hey guys, I haven't played GTFO since Rundown 1, and I was wondering if the game has improved the framerate and performance since then.
I'm using an i7-8700K and a 2080Ti, but back with R1 I couldn't push much past 140fps or so, and I wanted to gauge recent players' opinion of optimizations and tweaks, if they exist.
Hi @hexed ferry First of all i need some info:
Who hosts the game?
What hardware do you have?
HOW does the game crash: Doe sit only freeze, does the audio still play etc.
@sonic scarab i can not tell HOW much it improved, but i run a 2080ti with an amd ryzen 9 3900x. I get more than 150 frames.
Nice, sounds good. I'll try to find some benchmarks or so but I just wanted to know if it had improved at all since then.
We have switched around who hosts. Recently its been my one friends and I that crash but last night I wasnt crashing and another friend was. Its usually a Unity crash. I have an i7-4800HQ processor if that makes sense ( I apologize if this doesnt make sense I'm not the best when it comes to computer specs) @proper grove
Can you make the GPU one larger please ^^
Yeah, I'm on a laptop and its a bit older at that. I'm not sure what my friends are running but i know the one has a desktop
It is good enough to run the most games.
When you host a game, do you get a crash as well, have you ever experienced that?
Yeah, I have hosted and had it crash but my other friend who crashes the most usually hosts because he has fiber and is plugged right in.
Ok. What can happen is, if one has a corrupted file, that he crashes others. that why i try to determine who can cause the crash ^^
so:
are there moments the game crashes all the time? (hordes, alarms, dropping into rundown)
Its usually on drop in
ok.
Actually always on drop in besides a couple random crashes here and there
Have you tried dropping alone?
it used to only be r2b2 consistantly but now its not
Yeah, I think we both still crashed when we tried that
it was a bit ago and I dont remember if the solo drop was good and then the group drop was bad or not im sorry
Ill go try one now. Last night when we tried to play, I didn't crash so I don't know if I did manage to fix it or not.
okay thank you
I did 🙂 I dropped into R2B2 with no issues
ok, can you make a lobby? i try to join.
all good ^^
109775240990969813
I think thats right? I haven't played with people other than friends
initiate drop?
y
crashed :/
Ok. So that's actually good to know.
one fix we can try is:
https://discordapp.com/channels/408196129470152705/633424858088472578/653718367676661770
It may be that a file is corrupted and it causes a missmatch what can cause this problem
I've done this fix quite a few times now and the problem usually happens again, I will do it again because I havent done it in about a week. Thank you for your patience
Do you use a VPN?
Ok.
He's at work but maybe when hes off i will tell him to ask for you or maybe tomorrow
Do me a favor. Can you run "DxDiag.exe"? (just search it) and send me the output txt?
I just uninstalled, should i keep running the first fix or do this first?
lfg tier 1
You can do the first fix, and while reinstalling send me the dx
@astral hare wrong chat ^^
DxDiag is basically a collection about all informations of your pc, without personal stuff.
so i can see errors from software or hardware.
its saying wait while it finishes collecting info 🙂
+1
save the file?
Yes ^^
okay, now what should i do?
Give me a couple minutes, in the meantime you can follow the first fix's steps and i see if i can find the cause of the problem ^^
Yup!
You also had problems with other games?
Nope, just gtfo
Ok, let's try to see if the first fix does anything.
+1
109775240991005068
Ok, i think we are stuck in the drop*
Ok. Return to lobby
it just crashed
Oh and i see the map.
xD when in doubt blame riot
i have a guess
@smoky jasper i come back to you in a second. Did you guys crashed in the drop as well?
we finished, a guy just crashed and it took extra long
Oh so it was at the end?
Does anyone get stuck at 30 fps even though the frame limit is "infinite" ?
Not sure if this is the right channel for it but... my wife and I cleared R2C1 Triangulation last night after much struggle. We just logged in for the next level and it is showing as not completed. Is there anything we can do about it other than trying to clear it again?
Please, for the love of cheese, don't make us go through it again. We finally beat it. 😦
Completion of the level is recorded in this log: https://files.layer7.solutions/uploads/Ferdi-PC.2020.06.02.zip-1591240323.gz
hey, sorry if this is the wrong place to ask questions about bug reports. I'm wanting to file bug(s). I already got the tool, uploaded logs, and am filling out a bug report. My question is: I actually found 2 bugs within the same session, should I file these as the same bug (with the link to uploaded logs), or should I file 2 separate bugs with the same link in them?
(the 2 bugs don't seem to be related at face value)
If unrelated to eachother then 2 seperate bug reports
Is there a channel for it or do I submit a bug report for the level not being marked as completed?
Ok, so a bug report. I'll do that. Thanks
@outer sorrel @cerulean vessel Sorry to hear you guys didn't get credit for the completion. This is a frustrating bug that the devs are working on fixing. They patched many causes of it, but seems there's at least one still alluding us that is being worked on. Be sure to submit a #bug-reporting and link the logs and we'll take a look and see if we can figure out why it happened, but you'll need to run it again to get credit, sorry.
@tidal dune As ShadowVipers said, if they are separate bugs, then a separate report as it allows us to track things better.
I figured as much. I just wanted to make sure in case they are connected in any way internally (one caused the other or something).
Will submit 2
I think I confused who was being responded to. Thanks for the info, I'll submit a bug report.
thanks 🙂
Completion of the level is recorded in this log: https://files.layer7.solutions/uploads/Ferdi-PC.2020.06.02.zip-1591240323.gz
@outer sorrel Thank you for these logs, it actually is really helpful and I can see where it showed you completed it successfully, but it wasn't able to award credit. I'm hopeful this will help the devs get it fixed.
My pleasure, submitted the bug report too so the log finds all the right people.
any settings recommendations to make the game run smoother? I've experienced multiple frame drops during alarm doors or when entering a new room/area.
lower resolution and lower shadows
turn off vsync, exclusive fullscreen, shadows to medium, depth of field (it really isn't used that much so why keep it), fxaa_default, max render queue frames not higher than 1, CPU culling workload to low unless it's more powerful than your video card.
@keen furnace
sorry for late reply
try restarting steam and your modem
Ezzy, I have heard that having the CPU culling workload setting set wrong will cause a glob on your screen to appear and grow. Is that the actual setting that is causing the issue?
@unique blaze
I haven't heard of anything like that. can you post a discord link where someone told you this so i can look into it?
Its pretty far back in this chat where I saw it. I saw it before D2 and E1 released.
but I can post a screenshot of what my screen turns into when the glob appears
many screenshots
it goes away on its own, but sometimes it turns my screen completely black and I cant see anything. Most of the time its only a small portion of my screen. but sometimes its the whole screen as you can see
IDK if the CPU culling workload is the issue though because Ive had it happen on all 4 settings.
I'm not seeing anything in the bug hunting reports. Can you make a report with as much screens and video as you can showing before and after?
Ill do that. Not sure if its a bug or something my laptop is just having an issue with.
My graphics card is a GTX 1650 and I have a hexa-core i7 9750, so i shouldnt have any issue
I'm asking around to see if anyone is familiar with this.
:o
I've noticed recently, the only time that i've never hosted the game, that the sleepers when they're up and moving around seem to glide across the ground with very little movement. My buddy hosting the game was the only other person in the game and we both have the same internet provider and pay for the same level of service, comcast fiber.. I just wanted to see if anyone else has seen this type of thing before because it's really jarring seeing that...
yep, just had that in last 2 rounds,. game has been pretty laggy the past week or so tbh.
Can you do win key + r
enter: %userprofile%\appdata\LocalLow\10 Chambers Collective\GTFO
press enter
upload the output_log.txt file please
@mighty cipher in that same location can you try deleting the gtfo_settings.txt file then relaunch the game
or upload it here first
then delete it
like literally nothing?
awesome, from the logs it showed the settings were corrupt, makes sense
cool, I can replicate it. should be a nice easy bug to patch.
lol when I read about buildslave (buildbot) to learn more about:
...
The guilty developer can be identified and harassed without human intervention. By running the builds on a variety of platforms, developers who do not have the facilities to test their changes everywhere before checkin will at least know shortly afterwards whether they have broken the build or not.
...
The overall goal is to reduce tree breakage and provide a platform to run tests or code-quality checks that are too annoying or pedantic for any human to waste their time with. Developers get immediate (and potentially public) feedback about their changes, encouraging them to be more careful about testing before checkin.```
Also, what causes this wild settings file corruption? Does it have anything to do with Steam Cloud syncing?
anyone else having trouble connecting to games?
Hi, do you get the "no connection" message?
i get a small orange text on the top right of my screen above the level: //ERR unable to decrypt at, then the last word is too small to read
can you send a screenshot?
i think you are talking about the start up sequence thats simulates a breach. There's such a message, but i always wanna go sure ^^
ok my bad, I know this game does sim stuff, but yeah. send the screen shot in this channel?
Yes please ^^
of course when i try to get the screen shot the text no longer pops up...
so the exact problem is you get stuck at the start-up sequence? Or can you get to the rundown screen?
I cannot connect to any lobby either through a code or steam
But you can see the Rundown screen`?
yes
ok, perfect.
ah i go the screenshot
I know its small but the orange text on the upper right
never saw it until now so idk if thats a related issue?
did you just made a lobby?
that was trying to join one, but i can also not make one either.
Same problem?
yeah, that screen for a few seconds then kicked back to the rundown
Ok, did you had an error at one point? like a freeze or anything?
no, i was able to join a lobby about an hour ago. then went to play again then just started
mhh that is weird. the easiest fix to try first is always this: https://discordapp.com/channels/408196129470152705/633424858088472578/653718367676661770
Sometimes when you alt+F4 or anything similar, it can happen that a data get's corrupted.
ok, will try. thanks for the help
If you still encounter the problem let me know, i'm should be here for another hour
ok, im doing the first thing now
Thank you very much ^^
Good to hear, thanks for letting me know ^^ Have fun and have a wonderful time ^^
Me and my friends beat "Power Corrupts" rundown a few days ago, however it does not show as complete on my rundown map.
I was wondering if I did something wrong
No that can happen and is 100% a bug. But don't worry, you do not lose anything by having it not completed. You still can play all levels that the host has unlocked @mighty cipher. Sorry for late respond ^^
Have a problem for a long time. I set the game run under 1280x720 exclusive fullscreen. And the desktop is 1600x900. Sometimes the game runs still in 1600x900 resolution, like streched from 1280x720. Also, it's very possible when I hit any button in setting my monitor turns black - it's changing resolution.
(kind of don't know how to express for my poor english)
:(:з)∠)
Hi, so from what i get, correct me if i'm wrong:
You have set the game to 1280x720, and your desktop is 1600x900?
yes
And the problem is that it changes to 900 by it's own?
game itself is still 1280x720 and "fullscreen" but not the monitor
sorry, i may be to tired xD
😇
do you have black bars?
you say the monitor is not 720p.
yes.
ok
and the problem is every time I hit any button in setting, it will change
ok.
shit I try to get some screenshot for you...
i think i get you.
i just was confused about the "stretched" thing, as they are the same ratio and should not be stretched... at least not in the traditional way.
😇
Just give me a minute.
i mean. Of course.
They are the same aspect ratio, but if you have lesser pixel in a picture they have to be stretched :D
but i think about why the resolution should change, normally that shouldn't happen.
you could try borderless window.
with the same resolution.
does the screen go black or does it flicker?
go black for 1 sec
PC
ok.
maybe this is not a big deal but it better be solved(((
🤪
sorry for the german xD
save the information and send it to me, i need to check something
🤔
ok i see.
this problem I encountered even at beta version
can you send me your settings file?
But I don't know what happened that time, just realize it's changing resolotion recently.
game setting?
alright
GTFO_Settings.txt
so what you could do is set your game to 1600x900
🤪 it's ok under 1600x900.
Although when play E1 it will drop to 45 even 25 fps
😇
I just have a kind of...fever, to 720p
haha
I played games on a shitty PC which can't perform L4D2 well years ago. So I always try to set any graphic setting to low
🤪
yeah. i get you ^^
It's not a problem but it's a problem so I want it get killed(?)
Replace this one with the one you already have
well it will still possibly turns black when I hit any button in setting
Don't change any settings.
I wanted to know what resolution you get D:
x3
but don't worry.
I never change, just hit the button in the left
oh ok
"GAMEPLAY" "VIDEO" these thing
can you change the fullscreen window from exclusive to normal fullscreen?
Fullscreenwindow sorry xD
well no more turning black (because always 1600x900)
and you cant change the resolution ?
I can
I have this mouse delay when I'm playing on my native resolution (1440x900) like if I had Vsync on, even tho I don't. Then turning the resolution down to 1280x800, like one step down it dissapears but I don't wanna play on a lower resolution!
Am I the only one experiencing this?
What fullscreen mode do you play on?
and how many queued frames do you have set?
Exclusive fullscreen
it's like, regular fullscreen right?
since it doesn't say what it does
i have it on maximum
tho that might be the default setting
should that be low?
i can't explain it so well. But exclusive fullscreen basically has higher prio.
Normally it runs better.
Max queue frames depends... what gpu do you have?
it basically buffers some frames in the background. it can cause delay but can help with framedrops.
set the queue frames to 5 and please try "Fullscreenwindow"
Thank you ^^
not windowed
Fullscreenwindow is windowed fullscreen
Or, should I say
Borderless Windowed Fullscreen?
🤔
yeah.
Basically my problem was
that there was weight on the mouse
which I don't like in shooters for obvious reasons
Yeah, totally understandable ^^
kill vsync and set fps at 144...?
but I guess disabling the frame queueing thing helped
btw What is CPU Culling workload?
For a Ryzen 5 what should I set that for
More load on the CPU. i have tested it and couldn't see much difference tbh.
so whats the difference between no AA and FXAA_highperformance
like, not having AA increases performance in general
@river fractal if GTFO wasn't scary enough, the fact that these devs invented "CPU culling workload" which noone on this earth know what does or how it works, makes it even scarier
🤣
This is the result via Bing international. Maybe google has difference serch result
Ok lets not chat in here to not disturb the flow of uhh, helping people out with technical issues
im GTFO'ing outta here
@merry elm
AA= Anti aliasing. it smoothes the "corners" of any object. FXAA is just a different kind of how the AA works, there are a lot of different variants that all do the same but work a little different.
Oh I'm familiar with AA, I guess FXAA_highperformance is basically the smallest AA that there exists which still provides the smoothening but with the least amount of performance it takes away
Oh ok :D yeah.
if GTFO wasn't scary enough, the fact that these devs invented "CPU culling workload" which noone on this earth know what does or how it works, makes it even scarier
@merry elm
i suck at explanation. But culling is the "drawing" of objects in the 3D environment.
If you set it to high, your CPU get's more work assigned for this kind of stuff
if you set it low the GPU takes the most work for this kind of stuff.
If you ever saw an object in a game that vanished when you walked away from it, that is basically culling...
CPU= your processor
GPU= your graphics card ^^
not rate, ratio
sorry, i do not know what your question is :'D
turn off vsync, exclusive fullscreen, shadows to medium, depth of field (it really isn't used that much so why keep it), fxaa_default, max render queue frames not higher than 1, CPU culling workload to low unless it's more powerful than your video card.
@unique blaze how do I know if CPU cooling is more powerful than my video card?
cooling?
"CPU culling workload to low unless it's more powerful than your video card."
you miss read. Culling (edit: culling workload) mean to "restrict" in favor of something.
oh ok
but what do you mean by it? How do I determine if it's more powerful than my video card?
can you post your system specs please and I'll be able to tell you
do you have a gpu?
Also this will explain bottlenecks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt5CNi0aEpI
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no problem! 😄
I would say your set up are about equal. you can leave the option alone. But feel free to test.
ok, thanks!
If you need any more help feel free to ask!
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2122005075 is fog supposed to look like this dense or i messed up with graphics ?
No... this is normal
Where can I report a player for hacking?
DM @rose thicket
Life is not going well for him
that's when guns comes in handy
Anyone have an idea how to reset you video settings? I set it to full screen in the hopes of gaining some fames since lowering the settings from ultra didn't doo anything 0.o but now it's just a blank screen XD
Found the config files %USERPROFILE%\AppData\LocalLow\10 Chambers Collective\GTFO
if anyone needs it
Turns out I can't run exclusive fullscreen
Solutions anyone?? This started to happen everytime from rundown 1 @proper grove @carmine isle
i can't even turn on in game music cos the same thing happens
hi @worn cape This one does not sounds good ._.
i would first suggest to reinstall the game for sure, it may be a sound file that is corrupted
@torn spear you can replace the file with the one i pinned here.
i mean, after i get dropped pff it goes back to normal
but i can't turn on in game music
cos that sounds comes
yeah.
should i verify the game files?
it is weird, it sounds like the format of the file is not supported. which shouldn't be the case.
i have no idea on how to report this to the devs
how do i report this specific one?
Just follow the steps that are listed there :3
can i just tag a dev here and get his idea on this?
the bug report helps to keep track for this bug, and it helps for future reference
@mighty cipher read FAQ for your suggestion
@proper grove would verifying the game help fix it?
Like i said you can try it, verifying the game files is worth a try for sure.
If not you can reinstall the game. Lucky it's only ~3Gb in download
i've never heard of your problem, so i can not tell exactly if anything helps as i have no data on this.
@proper grove btw I posted my issues on bug tracker. Hopefully the devs will see it
ok super, have you verified the game files yet?
Could you test it?
Inside put the following in:
